WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:06.480 Ip, I can't hear you, son, there we go. Yeah, 2 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:08.640 thank you, Pete. I got a new microphone array? Is 3 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:09.359 that an improvement? 4 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:12.720 Sounds good? 5 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:16.399 Yeah, sounds Goodeah sweet, I realized this is the new laptop. 6 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:18.760 I was just I was telling the subs that you 7 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.600 saved the manuscript when my laptop shit itself and exploded. 8 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:27.960 But uh, supposedly this is one of the newer HP models. 9 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:30.440 I mean, these HP models with the Azel prossor. I 10 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:33.520 realized they're all kind of junk comparatively, But supposedly it 11 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:37.200 had this sexed up mike, but I thought it sounded tiny, man, 12 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:40.280 so I got a and then the other mic. I 13 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:42.479 had a condenser mic that I paid like six hundred 14 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:44.840 dollars for that like doesn't seem to make any fucking difference. 15 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:48.640 So I kind of got shylocked there once. 16 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:53.320 Yeah, condenser mic in an open room isn't going to work. 17 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:55.640 You need a dynamic mic in an open room. 18 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:58.079 Yeah, no, I should have done my homework. But a 19 00:00:58.079 --> 00:00:59.880 bunch of fools you go to go to condens room. 20 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:04.719 But uh so that's on me. I juwe myself. Sometimes 21 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:11.920 you jew yourself. But yeah, I gotta excuse me. I'm 22 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.079 still a little unwell. I got this mic for like 23 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:19.959 one hundred and fifty dollars and it's it seems pretty 24 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:23.719 that the sound actually seems pretty layered. But no, what 25 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:28.519 I was talking about before you got on deck was uh, oh, 26 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:32.319 Rob Palmer just gave us a nice greeting, Good morning, 27 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:37.000 Rob Palmer, Thank you. I was talking about Charlie Kirk 28 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:41.359 and how he's been deliberately sort of forgotten, you know, 29 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:44.439 and purposely redacted. I believe that's true. It's not just 30 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:46.640 a matter of fading from the tune of our news cycle. 31 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:50.879 I mean, the man was shot before an audience in millions, 32 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:54.280 and then his murder went viral. I mean that's horrific, 33 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:57.760 you know. And at Uh I don't like seeing anybody 34 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.000 get shot. I mean, don't gonna be wrong. I I 35 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.400 would take some pleasure in it if certain people got shot, 36 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:05.280 but I I don't know, I don't I don't enjoy 37 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:09.080 watching it happened. And uh, that was horrific. Man he 38 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.280 got he got shot with Uh he got shot with 39 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:17.240 a jacketed infantry round, I believe, and and he bled out. 40 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:22.000 It was horrible. But I I think it's not accidentally 41 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:28.840 he's been unceremoniously redacted. I I'm not saying that Lee 42 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:31.240 couldn't murder him or something. I'm repeating myself for giving 43 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:33.000 me so So I want to bring Pete up the speed, 44 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:36.560 although I wouldn't rule it out entirely. But I was 45 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:41.280 watching a lot of his stuff, uh, you know, because 46 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:44.400 I I'd taken his content occasionally before, especially because a 47 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:46.759 lot of the Fellows would would link me to, you know, 48 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:54.639 certain certain episodes his as it were. It's interesting how 49 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:58.360 really over the course of about eighteen months, you know, 50 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:00.879 he started out with typical Alan Bomb kind of boiler 51 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:05.680 plate stuff about how critical race theory divides people like 52 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:09.360 racism does, and you know, we part of the part 53 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:13.599 of the conservative enterprise, and you know, preserving the West 54 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.560 is to eliminate racial identity and all that kind of 55 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:23.479 happy Jewish horseshit. And he is consistent go to, particularly 56 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:27.000 when he discussing abortion. His metric of evil is, well, 57 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:30.360 what about the Nazis? And this is like guessing Jews, 58 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:33.400 you know, really on the no is just garbage that 59 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:38.199 shouldn't really get play with college age people, Like, however, 60 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.960 whatever problems youngsters have, this isn't nineteen eighty six. They're 61 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.639 they're not they're not fixated on this nonsense. It just 62 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:51.560 doesn't have that kind of weight anymore. But then he 63 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:55.240 in every punctuated way, that kind of stuff started falling 64 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:57.919 off more and more, you know, like, don't get me wrong, 65 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:01.560 you know he never obviously he never came out against 66 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.680 Israel and the Zionist enterprise, but just less and less 67 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:08.599 was that kind of thing mentioned, you know, like less 68 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:11.599 and less where we did, where we availed the Holocaust, 69 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:17.199 anity sermonizing about you know, Aristot Satan which is the 70 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:23.600 Nazis and things, and uh it's uh when such that 71 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:29.199 when when when when there was this sort of official 72 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:32.399 mourning put on by turning point. I think I think 73 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:35.800 I think her current's really fucking creepy too, Like I 74 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:37.800 I've I've said, it's gonna be another reason I draw 75 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.199 hate from people in addition to me making fun of 76 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:45.040 them for you know, touching themselves over Pete hegg Seth 77 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:48.040 and things. But you know, there's something really wrong with her. 78 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:52.839 She literally was gifted to him in Tel Aviv because 79 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:56.639 she was some shiksa in the service of some Zionists 80 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:59.600 and g O and that that that, uh, that guy 81 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.120 that passed or she was quicked up with. He was 82 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:06.120 under investigation for chaw molestation. I mean like actual chomo stuff. 83 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:09.279 I don't mean like he got caught with a seventeen 84 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:11.839 year old girl. I mean like chomo shit. Like I'm 85 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.000 not saying it's cool to mess around with teenage girls, 86 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.519 but why wouldn't normally say you're not a pedophile if 87 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:19.120 you're interested in women under fifty? 88 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:26.040 But uh, you know, she also she also is allegedly 89 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:31.920 ran an NGO dealing with orphaned children in Romania when 90 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:36.839 she was seventeen years old, and as somebody as somebody 91 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:42.240 who lived in Romania and worked for a you know, 92 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:48.079 a charity that did the same thing. No seventeen year old. 93 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:50.600 I mean everyone who was in charge there was in 94 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:54.040 their seventies. I mean there was no seventeen year old. 95 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:58.639 Yeah, yeah, I that her whole career seems incredibly bizarre. 96 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:03.959 But uh, I when when Turning Point was doing these 97 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:09.439 kinds of hay geographies to Charlie, they were very deliberate 98 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.199 I noticed in the in the talking points and the 99 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:17.319 footage they'd include. You know, it was very much uh 100 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:24.120 from early on when he was uh a an un 101 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:28.399 uh an un undiluted shill for the regime and and 102 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:34.040 for Leekud. And I mean, and like I said, I 103 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:37.120 I'm not saying it's it's it's somehow impossible that Lee 104 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:41.720 could would murder this some ng O front man like that. 105 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:43.680 I don't think that some possible at all, but also 106 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.680 don't also don't see any concrete evidence that's what happened. 107 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.319 And frankly, his country is full of literally insane people 108 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:53.639 who will just throw shots at somebody just because, you know. Uh, 109 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:59.000 but uh, it is very strange that when he started 110 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:04.120 tepidly leaving the reservation during these turning point events and 111 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:07.800 these college q and a's, he suddenly just gets blasted. 112 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.639 And he doesn't just get blasted, he gets blasted in 113 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:17.040 the most grotesque and public way imaginable. And now it's just, 114 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.439 you know, we just don't talk about Charlie Kirk anymore, 115 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:21.839 you know, I mean, don't get me wrong, like one 116 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:24.120 of the I know, I know he's a hero to 117 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.560 some youngsters, and I mean that's fine. I mean, I'd 118 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:30.920 rather they I'd rather they admire a guy like Charlie 119 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:34.759 Kirk than a Rabbi Trump. But even though that's not 120 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.879 on the side with what I'm into, you know, and 121 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:38.920 I know that, I know, I know some of the 122 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:42.560 some of those guys are you know, do what they 123 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:44.639 can to preserve his legacy, and that's what you should do. 124 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.360 You're a piece of shit if you know, out of 125 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:53.800 your friends and you know, uh, consider them present. You know, 126 00:07:53.920 --> 00:08:00.079 when you gather among people who knew the deceit and 127 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.040 you know, it's got nothing to do with what I think. 128 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:04.800 At Charlie Kirk. You know, like I said, Kirk, he 129 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.199 was from the West birds man. He was a Chicago guy, 130 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.079 like Greater Chicago Land. He's like west of where I'm at, 131 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:14.000 like North and like west, and he was probably a 132 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:16.680 decent dude. And I'm it'd be clear he got roped 133 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:18.959 into this turning point bullshit when he was all of 134 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:21.360 like nineteen years old. You know, when I was nine, 135 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:23.879 when I was nineteen, I I wouldn't have gotten roped 136 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.000 into Neo kon shit. But I got got got roped 137 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:29.639 into some some pretty fucking stupid shit. You know. I 138 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:33.879 it's easy to it's easy to pass judgment on somebody 139 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.559 like Kirk. You know, It's like, yeah, I mean, I'm 140 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:38.919 you know, if you're a fifty year old man. It's like, dude, 141 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:42.440 this was like the dude's first like real career man, 142 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.399 you know. And he I'm sure we were from withach 143 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:52.679 starstruck and out by uh, out by the airport, you know, 144 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:57.720 like basically Chicago Land West, and then like north of 145 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:02.279 are you know, places like Schomberg and stuff. It's not 146 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:05.879 like the North Shore. It's not like some snob flex 147 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.720 there's a little less sophisticated, like a little more kind 148 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.159 of lawer, middle class. You know, Kirk's parents are probably 149 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:18.000 regular people's and uh, you know, he obviously didn't come 150 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:21.919 from money or wasn't connected. He was probably pretty starstruck 151 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.960 man when powerful people started taking an interest in them. 152 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:29.360 And I mean, what kid wouldn't be, you know, so 153 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:34.120 I I cut him some slick and regard. But you 154 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:35.960 know I was thinking about that too. I mean, obviously, 155 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:38.000 like yesterday, a bunch of people wanted to meet to 156 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:42.639 live stream and Trump was was was holding forth in 157 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:46.279 that awful speech. The speech was like retard fodder. It 158 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:49.519 was like a bunch of his asinine like true social 159 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:53.960 like posts like strung together, my fucking dummy. Well, you know, 160 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:55.639 the whole you. 161 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.080 Know that whole thing where they said, oh, we did 162 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:00.279 a poll and one hundred percent of people who are 163 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:05.600 MEGA support, you know, support Trump's actions in Iran. That's 164 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:10.320 who that speech was for. Low IQ fucking morons. 165 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:15.399 Yeah, like what like like white niggers? Yeah, and uh 166 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:18.799 who shoved gurbils up their asshole? Like that? That's how 167 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:22.399 MEGA started. It was guys who you know, like Sam 168 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.799 Kinnison used. Sam Kennison was a great man, and he 169 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.159 was rock and roll and he was a and you know, 170 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:31.559 he was like a fallen uh charismatic Baptist preacher, so 171 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:32.600 he was kind of like a man of my on 172 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:34.840 a heart and he was always asking why fags of 173 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:38.000 gerbils up the rass? Okay, and that kind of faded. 174 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:39.960 You're not supposed to talk about it anymore. But MEGA 175 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:44.279 started because people said, dons Mega, they were the guy 176 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.120 used to like shoving gerbils up their asshole, you know, 177 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:51.519 and they realized like, well, you know, Donald Trump probably 178 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:55.679 does this too. And you know, all all the gay 179 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:58.279 pornography I watched is put up like Jews, So Jews 180 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.600 are awesome too. So that's what MEGA is is its 181 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.840 closet homosexuals. Some gurbles up their asshole. It's the all GOP. 182 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:07.320 I mean, that's the whole GOP. 183 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.440 Yeah, the way it was explained, the way it's been 184 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.279 explained by people who've like really investigated this. The GOP 185 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.120 likes to fuck little boys and the Democrats like to 186 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:19.000 fuck little girls. 187 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.639 Yeah. Well there's what's interesting. The kidding aside. I mean, 188 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:26.919 you weren't kidding. I was saying dumb things. But the 189 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:28.639 one of the reasons why I got to pitch this 190 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:33.799 to Burden, I mean, sure it'll be receptive. He respects 191 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:38.200 my opinions on these mayors of content, the the the 192 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:42.000 Larry King, uh Franklin credit scandal, not Larry King, the 193 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:45.360 ancient guy who's like today and Amy King. Hey for 194 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:49.120 Italian dommate Jerry, But I mean Larry Lawrence King or 195 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:52.000 Larry King, like the black guy who was a he 196 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:55.440 he was sort of like Republican Obama, you know he. 197 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.039 I think it was in ninety I think, I think 198 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:00.159 I think in the it was it was either ann 199 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:03.799 or ninety two. It was either the ninety two RNC 200 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.159 convention or at nineteen ninety and some gal evet like 201 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:11.440 Lawrence King. He's sang the national anthem because he he 202 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:13.799 had this kind of booming barrel's cone voice like a 203 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.240 lot of black guys do. But he was and he's 204 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:18.840 been redacted like they pretend he never even existed. Like 205 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:23.559 it's almost like Stalin style. But Larry King was like 206 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.840 the token black man of the gokey and he he 207 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:30.279 went down because he had this whole credit union, and 208 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:33.039 especially in those days, if you're gonna wash money, that 209 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.840 was a really good way to do it. I mean 210 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:37.759 you can't that's like done now, you can't do it 211 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.000 no more. But King was washing a huge amount of 212 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.440 money through this shell company, and it turns out he 213 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:47.000 was he was a pimp, you know, he was a 214 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:49.559 big pimp. And from Cure and those kids, one of 215 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:55.279 him was Paul Bonacci. You know, that's where that whole 216 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:58.799 conspiracy narrative came from. I think there's something to it 217 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:04.240 in terms of Bonacci story, okay, But beyond that, King 218 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:10.919 King mostly ran girls, but he also had a stable 219 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:16.120 of callboys and the White House Callboys scandal. You had 220 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.399 some senator who kind of quietly retired. He was this 221 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:23.039 openly gay guy who was one of the big glug 222 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:26.240 cabin Republicans back when they were making big like in roads, 223 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:30.120 you know they they were. It was this callboy ring 224 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:37.759 of these gay senators who were carrying on with underage 225 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:43.039 you know, male prostitutes procured by Lawrence King. And that's 226 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.960 just like not disgusted. Ever, it's like it didn't ever happen, 227 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:47.720 and it's not like it's not even like this was 228 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:52.279 during Bush forty one's administration. It's not like he had 229 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:57.080 some great knack for interfacing with the media at all. In fact, 230 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.919 one of the things that killed his campaign it was, 231 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:01.600 I mean, it was ross pro and a lot to 232 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:04.879 do with that, the genuine recession being underway to do 233 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:08.360 with that. But it really, for a guy is otherwise 234 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:11.440 sophisticated as Bush forty one was, he really didn't understand 235 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:13.679 the finesse and media. So my point being, I know, 236 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.320 I'm me wrong. He himself wasn't directly implicated any of 237 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:18.960 this ship but it's not like he swooped in Quinton's 238 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.600 style would made it go away. You know, this very 239 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:27.240 much just uh disappeared from the front page. I've done 240 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:33.240 some of these, Uh interestingly remains a good resource. I 241 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:36.360 still haunt libraries because I'm old and we you can 242 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:40.360 actually find you can find data there that if you 243 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:45.360 got a good public library system that uh that uh 244 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:49.039 that they can't other places. And one of the only 245 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:53.200 places I found reference to Lawrence King or the Callboy 246 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:58.679 scandal is by getting on Chicago Public Library. Uh they 247 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:01.559 took all the micro film grow Fecia had put it 248 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:04.480 online obviously, and you got a libycrediting and access that 249 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:07.679 I found references in the Tribune and the Sun Times 250 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:12.039 and the Daily Herald and uh, the Washington Times too, 251 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:15.600 from by doing you know, old like newspaper searches. But 252 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.799 that's it, you know, I mean, I mean Wiki is 253 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:21.000 garbage anyway. But you go to wiki or even if 254 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:25.039 you even if you deep dive, you know, in a 255 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:28.559 general search or fuck with wayback machine, you're just gonna 256 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.879 find squibs. Like you know, Lawrence King was indicted for 257 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:35.519 you know, financial crimes and oh and there's a conspiracy 258 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.519 theory that has no merit involving Paul Bonacci and and 259 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:41.720 and and people claiming that, uh you know, there's there's 260 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:45.759 there's an elite sex ring that was insinuated into this 261 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:51.279 pattern of criminality. So and that's it's not directly on 262 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:55.120 point to a cultic stuff. But for people who don't 263 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:58.840 know Bonacci, Bonacci was a very very disturbed guy, and 264 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:02.320 he first came to people's knowledge because he said he 265 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:05.639 had information on Johnny Gosh. And that's one of the 266 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:11.399 most fucked up cases, cold cases, or I've ever heard of. 267 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.279 And I grew I was a little alone at me, 268 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:15.480 but I was a little kid when that happened. And 269 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:17.879 Gosh was the first kid whose face appeared on a 270 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:22.039 milk carton, you know, I mean that was a bizarre 271 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:26.120 thing too, man for those for the youngsters, you know, 272 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:29.480 in these kind of lame eighties nostalgia shows or whatever, 273 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:32.279 like stranger things, that'll be like a set piece that 274 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:35.000 was the real thing, and it'd be like Adam Walsh 275 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:38.639 they found his fucking head Johnny Gosh at these like 276 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:41.039 random boys and girls. Just it was like people were 277 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:46.279 just like disappearing and on milk cartons and on I 278 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:50.279 remember at a at the North Suburban YMCA if you 279 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:52.200 got like an orange drink out of the vending machine, 280 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.519 like sometimes it'd be like missing photos on there. But 281 00:16:57.159 --> 00:17:02.759 Gosh was the first kid featured. And it's like Johnny 282 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.480 Gosh has disappeared into thin air. He was this paper 283 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:09.640 boy in Iowa and he one day he goes out 284 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:13.000 to deliver his papers and he's just like never seen again. 285 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:18.480 And years later, but nah, and all kinds of weird 286 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:22.359 things were around it. This photograph surface to this kid 287 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:27.759 in bondage and some people think it was Johnny Gosh 288 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.599 And obviously that was before facial recognition could shed light 289 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:31.079 on this. 290 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:32.200 And. 291 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.920 There was some there was a a five or ten 292 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:42.480 dollars banknote that surfaced that said something like helped me. 293 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:49.799 You know, I'm Johnny, and some handwriting expert in fed 294 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:53.119 law enforcement said he believed it was credible, like shit 295 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:56.839 like that. But but like years later, but na, she 296 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.319 says like, look, I know what happened to Johnny Gosh 297 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.640 because I was there when he got kidnapped, Okay, and 298 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:07.759 he he gave this whole story where he's like but 299 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:10.079 not actually had an awful upbring. He was basically a street 300 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:12.880 kid who had no parents. I think for a time 301 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:17.079 he ended up at Boystown, you know, the orphanage, and 302 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:21.279 he basically said that from a young age he got 303 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.200 sold to this guy who was uh, this retired military 304 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:31.400 guy who then started pimping him out but he said, 305 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:35.519 incident to that abuse, he was subjected to these bizarre, 306 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:46.799 obviously staged sorts of US psychological uh terrorist terrorism uh 307 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:53.319 terroristically codd abuse scenario was to give me a memal 308 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:57.240 brain fag and H, the purpose of which was to 309 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:05.079 attempt to buifer kate the conscious personality and God. Uh. 310 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:09.920 But I actually insisted that he was a genuine dissociate 311 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:13.400 of identity. As of her case, I don't believe that exists, 312 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:17.000 but I do, but the psychiatric community APA certainly believed 313 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:25.519 it existed, and there would potentially be a paramilitary application 314 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:29.559 for that kind of thing. Okay, So, but actually insisted 315 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.720 he was availed to this these kinds of stressors as 316 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.920 an attempt to bifurcate his personality in addition to him 317 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:42.319 just being forced to service powerful sickos who had an 318 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:47.680 appetite for children, particularly boys, but girls were victimized too. 319 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:53.680 And a kid who uh was similarly abused came out 320 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:56.960 and said, no, I know Paul Bonacci because I ran 321 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:59.720 into him when I was being similarly exploited. And then 322 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:03.680 that kid and it turned up dead. And uh, this 323 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:11.039 other this girl who also testified uh in uh with 324 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:16.079 an eye to validate at least some of Bonacci's uh declarations. 325 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:19.960 She was indicted for perjury and went away for like 326 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:26.240 two years, which is basically unheard of. And uh, you know, 327 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:29.160 the they're rebuttal to this and forgive me because I 328 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:32.079 don't have the documents in front of me to identify 329 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:36.319 the fact circumstances that are truly material, because it's a 330 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:42.079 huge case. But the common refrain was, well, and at 331 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:50.039 Bonacci was uh, he was convicted of of of of 332 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:53.880 of child molestation himself, which is common to people who've 333 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.640 been available that kind of abuse. Okay, And uh so 334 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:01.839 the common refrain was, well, Banacci's a liar and he's 335 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:05.880 mentally ill as a child molestor Yeah, all those things 336 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:08.039 might be true like that that that doesn't mean he 337 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:13.079 made this up, you know. And he insisted, as did 338 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:19.079 some of these witnesses who emerged to substantiate what he claimed, 339 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:23.839 that that that Lawrence King was was all over this stuff, 340 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:26.640 and then subsequently he gonna became a fall guy like 341 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:29.039 another like Minnie Epstein, you know, like, oh, even if 342 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:32.880 this was obviously none of this more sensational more some 343 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:35.839 none of these more sensational claims are are true, but 344 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:40.559 such that there was child prostitution underway, that that was 345 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:44.119 this that was this black pimp king and he was 346 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:48.400 just a bad apple, you know. Uh. End of story. 347 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:54.279 So that's uh, you know, while not directly related to 348 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:57.960 a cult beliefs and stuff, uh, I think it's all related. 349 00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:02.680 I mean, i'mother belief that such that officialdom is is 350 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:07.559 involved in these sorts of things. I I think generally 351 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:13.480 it's that it has to do with it's only to 352 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:18.119 obscure the facts and write the testimony that emerges from 353 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:22.119 those demise, you know, not credible as well as you know, 354 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:25.559 they're like I said, even somebody like Binacci's got a 355 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:29.599 tenuous relationship to the truth. There are kernels of truth. 356 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:32.799 And what he says, and I think what he alleged 357 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:38.200 was basically correct. That people reveiled these kinds of stressors 358 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:43.880 of their eye, break down their psychic defenses and as 359 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:47.640 well as diminish their inner moral core as well as 360 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:57.200 the you know, alter their personality and their their conscious uh, 361 00:22:57.680 --> 00:22:59.119 their their conscious mind. 362 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.440 But that I mean, no matter no matter the purpose, 363 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:06.960 it seems like we see throughout history going back thousands 364 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:10.640 of years, that the powerful are always attracted to having 365 00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:11.559 sex with children. 366 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:18.880 Yeah, and it's really and it crosses cultures. Yeah, I mean, 367 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:22.200 I mean that was kind of the what I was 368 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:26.119 getting at with the Savile discussion, the Jimmy Savile discussion 369 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:33.799 I had with Burden the other day is the I mean, thankfully, 370 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:36.720 this kind of conduct is fairly rare in absolute terms. 371 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:40.119 Most people simply aren't even evil people aren't interested in 372 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:44.599 having sex the previous children. It's it can to be 373 00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:48.599 a coincidence that there's this critical mass of people who 374 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:53.960 are interested in that kind of deviancy in government and 375 00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:58.559 in you know, elite environs. That doesn't make any sense. 376 00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:04.079 And and uh, generally the reason people do these kinds 377 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:09.200 of things, I mean, yeah, I I'm sure that in 378 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:13.720 the majority of cases it it's some pathetic devian who 379 00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:17.279 as these kinds of compulsions. And there's probably an aspect 380 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:21.079 of mental illness there too, which doesn't mitigate their culpability 381 00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:24.480 obviously under laws of man or God, you know, just 382 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:28.480 to be clearer, but I uh, in the case of 383 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:33.480 elites and things, that's it's it's initiatory, and it's a 384 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:38.119 way of sort of bonding people to a community of 385 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:42.559 silence and marking them out from normalcy for all time, 386 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:49.079 you know. I mean, it's it's it's complicated, but I uh, 387 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:54.720 but that's what's problematic, and that's why I go hard 388 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:59.240 on the issue. When if people bandy things like Trump 389 00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.400 is a pedophile, I don't think he is, because that 390 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:03.279 would have come out. He wouldn't have been able to 391 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:06.880 just quash that for the past forty five years. Okay, 392 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:12.519 some sort of rumors would have followed him, or some 393 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.680 sort incredible witness would have emerged, you know, not not 394 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:19.160 some pre mentally ill lady claiming he raped her in 395 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:23.000 a department store in broad daylight on like Fifth Avenue 396 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:27.160 or whatever. But when people say those kinds of things 397 00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:31.759 casually or just flippingly, you know, claim people or pedophiles 398 00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:36.799 when they're not, or people talk about pizzagate type nonsense, 399 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.880 you're a fuse getting what is a real issue, you know, 400 00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:48.480 and you're casting you're casting it in an absurd and 401 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:56.039