Speaker 1: Ip, I can't hear you, son, there we go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, Pete. I got a new microphone array? Is
Speaker 1: that an improvement?
Speaker 2: Sounds good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds Goodeah sweet, I realized this is the new laptop.
Speaker 1: I was just I was telling the subs that you
Speaker 1: saved the manuscript when my laptop shit itself and exploded.
Speaker 1: But uh, supposedly this is one of the newer HP models.
Speaker 1: I mean, these HP models with the Azel prossor. I
Speaker 1: realized they're all kind of junk comparatively, But supposedly it
Speaker 1: had this sexed up mike, but I thought it sounded tiny, man,
Speaker 1: so I got a and then the other mic. I
Speaker 1: had a condenser mic that I paid like six hundred
Speaker 1: dollars for that like doesn't seem to make any fucking difference.
Speaker 1: So I kind of got shylocked there once.
Speaker 2: Yeah, condenser mic in an open room isn't going to work.
Speaker 2: You need a dynamic mic in an open room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I should have done my homework. But a
Speaker 1: bunch of fools you go to go to condens room.
Speaker 1: But uh so that's on me. I juwe myself. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you jew yourself. But yeah, I gotta excuse me. I'm
Speaker 1: still a little unwell. I got this mic for like
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars and it's it seems pretty
Speaker 1: that the sound actually seems pretty layered. But no, what
Speaker 1: I was talking about before you got on deck was uh, oh,
Speaker 1: Rob Palmer just gave us a nice greeting, Good morning,
Speaker 1: Rob Palmer, Thank you. I was talking about Charlie Kirk
Speaker 1: and how he's been deliberately sort of forgotten, you know,
Speaker 1: and purposely redacted. I believe that's true. It's not just
Speaker 1: a matter of fading from the tune of our news cycle.
Speaker 1: I mean, the man was shot before an audience in millions,
Speaker 1: and then his murder went viral. I mean that's horrific,
Speaker 1: you know. And at Uh I don't like seeing anybody
Speaker 1: get shot. I mean, don't gonna be wrong. I I
Speaker 1: would take some pleasure in it if certain people got shot,
Speaker 1: but I I don't know, I don't I don't enjoy
Speaker 1: watching it happened. And uh, that was horrific. Man he
Speaker 1: got he got shot with Uh he got shot with
Speaker 1: a jacketed infantry round, I believe, and and he bled out.
Speaker 1: It was horrible. But I I think it's not accidentally
Speaker 1: he's been unceremoniously redacted. I I'm not saying that Lee
Speaker 1: couldn't murder him or something. I'm repeating myself for giving
Speaker 1: me so So I want to bring Pete up the speed,
Speaker 1: although I wouldn't rule it out entirely. But I was
Speaker 1: watching a lot of his stuff, uh, you know, because
Speaker 1: I I'd taken his content occasionally before, especially because a
Speaker 1: lot of the Fellows would would link me to, you know,
Speaker 1: certain certain episodes his as it were. It's interesting how
Speaker 1: really over the course of about eighteen months, you know,
Speaker 1: he started out with typical Alan Bomb kind of boiler
Speaker 1: plate stuff about how critical race theory divides people like
Speaker 1: racism does, and you know, we part of the part
Speaker 1: of the conservative enterprise, and you know, preserving the West
Speaker 1: is to eliminate racial identity and all that kind of
Speaker 1: happy Jewish horseshit. And he is consistent go to, particularly
Speaker 1: when he discussing abortion. His metric of evil is, well,
Speaker 1: what about the Nazis? And this is like guessing Jews,
Speaker 1: you know, really on the no is just garbage that
Speaker 1: shouldn't really get play with college age people, Like, however,
Speaker 1: whatever problems youngsters have, this isn't nineteen eighty six. They're
Speaker 1: they're not they're not fixated on this nonsense. It just
Speaker 1: doesn't have that kind of weight anymore. But then he
Speaker 1: in every punctuated way, that kind of stuff started falling
Speaker 1: off more and more, you know, like, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: you know he never obviously he never came out against
Speaker 1: Israel and the Zionist enterprise, but just less and less
Speaker 1: was that kind of thing mentioned, you know, like less
Speaker 1: and less where we did, where we availed the Holocaust,
Speaker 1: anity sermonizing about you know, Aristot Satan which is the
Speaker 1: Nazis and things, and uh it's uh when such that
Speaker 1: when when when when there was this sort of official
Speaker 1: mourning put on by turning point. I think I think
Speaker 1: I think her current's really fucking creepy too, Like I
Speaker 1: I've I've said, it's gonna be another reason I draw
Speaker 1: hate from people in addition to me making fun of
Speaker 1: them for you know, touching themselves over Pete hegg Seth
Speaker 1: and things. But you know, there's something really wrong with her.
Speaker 1: She literally was gifted to him in Tel Aviv because
Speaker 1: she was some shiksa in the service of some Zionists
Speaker 1: and g O and that that that, uh, that guy
Speaker 1: that passed or she was quicked up with. He was
Speaker 1: under investigation for chaw molestation. I mean like actual chomo stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't mean like he got caught with a seventeen
Speaker 1: year old girl. I mean like chomo shit. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it's cool to mess around with teenage girls,
Speaker 1: but why wouldn't normally say you're not a pedophile if
Speaker 1: you're interested in women under fifty?
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, she also she also is allegedly
Speaker 2: ran an NGO dealing with orphaned children in Romania when
Speaker 2: she was seventeen years old, and as somebody as somebody
Speaker 2: who lived in Romania and worked for a you know,
Speaker 2: a charity that did the same thing. No seventeen year old.
Speaker 2: I mean everyone who was in charge there was in
Speaker 2: their seventies. I mean there was no seventeen year old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I that her whole career seems incredibly bizarre.
Speaker 1: But uh, I when when Turning Point was doing these
Speaker 1: kinds of hay geographies to Charlie, they were very deliberate
Speaker 1: I noticed in the in the talking points and the
Speaker 1: footage they'd include. You know, it was very much uh
Speaker 1: from early on when he was uh a an un
Speaker 1: uh an un undiluted shill for the regime and and
Speaker 1: for Leekud. And I mean, and like I said, I
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's it's it's somehow impossible that Lee
Speaker 1: could would murder this some ng O front man like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that some possible at all, but also
Speaker 1: don't also don't see any concrete evidence that's what happened.
Speaker 1: And frankly, his country is full of literally insane people
Speaker 1: who will just throw shots at somebody just because, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: but uh, it is very strange that when he started
Speaker 1: tepidly leaving the reservation during these turning point events and
Speaker 1: these college q and a's, he suddenly just gets blasted.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't just get blasted, he gets blasted in
Speaker 1: the most grotesque and public way imaginable. And now it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, we just don't talk about Charlie Kirk anymore,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, don't get me wrong, like one
Speaker 1: of the I know, I know he's a hero to
Speaker 1: some youngsters, and I mean that's fine. I mean, I'd
Speaker 1: rather they I'd rather they admire a guy like Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk than a Rabbi Trump. But even though that's not
Speaker 1: on the side with what I'm into, you know, and
Speaker 1: I know that, I know, I know some of the
Speaker 1: some of those guys are you know, do what they
Speaker 1: can to preserve his legacy, and that's what you should do.
Speaker 1: You're a piece of shit if you know, out of
Speaker 1: your friends and you know, uh, consider them present. You know,
Speaker 1: when you gather among people who knew the deceit and
Speaker 1: you know, it's got nothing to do with what I think.
Speaker 1: At Charlie Kirk. You know, like I said, Kirk, he
Speaker 1: was from the West birds man. He was a Chicago guy,
Speaker 1: like Greater Chicago Land. He's like west of where I'm at,
Speaker 1: like North and like west, and he was probably a
Speaker 1: decent dude. And I'm it'd be clear he got roped
Speaker 1: into this turning point bullshit when he was all of
Speaker 1: like nineteen years old. You know, when I was nine,
Speaker 1: when I was nineteen, I I wouldn't have gotten roped
Speaker 1: into Neo kon shit. But I got got got roped
Speaker 1: into some some pretty fucking stupid shit. You know. I
Speaker 1: it's easy to it's easy to pass judgment on somebody
Speaker 1: like Kirk. You know, It's like, yeah, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a fifty year old man. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: this was like the dude's first like real career man,
Speaker 1: you know. And he I'm sure we were from withach
Speaker 1: starstruck and out by uh, out by the airport, you know,
Speaker 1: like basically Chicago Land West, and then like north of
Speaker 1: are you know, places like Schomberg and stuff. It's not
Speaker 1: like the North Shore. It's not like some snob flex
Speaker 1: there's a little less sophisticated, like a little more kind
Speaker 1: of lawer, middle class. You know, Kirk's parents are probably
Speaker 1: regular people's and uh, you know, he obviously didn't come
Speaker 1: from money or wasn't connected. He was probably pretty starstruck
Speaker 1: man when powerful people started taking an interest in them.
Speaker 1: And I mean, what kid wouldn't be, you know, so
Speaker 1: I I cut him some slick and regard. But you
Speaker 1: know I was thinking about that too. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: like yesterday, a bunch of people wanted to meet to
Speaker 1: live stream and Trump was was was holding forth in
Speaker 1: that awful speech. The speech was like retard fodder. It
Speaker 1: was like a bunch of his asinine like true social
Speaker 1: like posts like strung together, my fucking dummy. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole you.
Speaker 2: Know that whole thing where they said, oh, we did
Speaker 2: a poll and one hundred percent of people who are
Speaker 2: MEGA support, you know, support Trump's actions in Iran. That's
Speaker 2: who that speech was for. Low IQ fucking morons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what like like white niggers? Yeah, and uh
Speaker 1: who shoved gurbils up their asshole? Like that? That's how
Speaker 1: MEGA started. It was guys who you know, like Sam
Speaker 1: Kinnison used. Sam Kennison was a great man, and he
Speaker 1: was rock and roll and he was a and you know,
Speaker 1: he was like a fallen uh charismatic Baptist preacher, so
Speaker 1: he was kind of like a man of my on
Speaker 1: a heart and he was always asking why fags of
Speaker 1: gerbils up the rass? Okay, and that kind of faded.
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to talk about it anymore. But MEGA
Speaker 1: started because people said, dons Mega, they were the guy
Speaker 1: used to like shoving gerbils up their asshole, you know,
Speaker 1: and they realized like, well, you know, Donald Trump probably
Speaker 1: does this too. And you know, all all the gay
Speaker 1: pornography I watched is put up like Jews, So Jews
Speaker 1: are awesome too. So that's what MEGA is is its
Speaker 1: closet homosexuals. Some gurbles up their asshole. It's the all GOP.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the whole GOP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the way it was explained, the way it's been
Speaker 2: explained by people who've like really investigated this. The GOP
Speaker 2: likes to fuck little boys and the Democrats like to
Speaker 2: fuck little girls.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well there's what's interesting. The kidding aside. I mean,
Speaker 1: you weren't kidding. I was saying dumb things. But the
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I got to pitch this
Speaker 1: to Burden, I mean, sure it'll be receptive. He respects
Speaker 1: my opinions on these mayors of content, the the the
Speaker 1: Larry King, uh Franklin credit scandal, not Larry King, the
Speaker 1: ancient guy who's like today and Amy King. Hey for
Speaker 1: Italian dommate Jerry, But I mean Larry Lawrence King or
Speaker 1: Larry King, like the black guy who was a he
Speaker 1: he was sort of like Republican Obama, you know he.
Speaker 1: I think it was in ninety I think, I think
Speaker 1: I think in the it was it was either ann
Speaker 1: or ninety two. It was either the ninety two RNC
Speaker 1: convention or at nineteen ninety and some gal evet like
Speaker 1: Lawrence King. He's sang the national anthem because he he
Speaker 1: had this kind of booming barrel's cone voice like a
Speaker 1: lot of black guys do. But he was and he's
Speaker 1: been redacted like they pretend he never even existed. Like
Speaker 1: it's almost like Stalin style. But Larry King was like
Speaker 1: the token black man of the gokey and he he
Speaker 1: went down because he had this whole credit union, and
Speaker 1: especially in those days, if you're gonna wash money, that
Speaker 1: was a really good way to do it. I mean
Speaker 1: you can't that's like done now, you can't do it
Speaker 1: no more. But King was washing a huge amount of
Speaker 1: money through this shell company, and it turns out he
Speaker 1: was he was a pimp, you know, he was a
Speaker 1: big pimp. And from Cure and those kids, one of
Speaker 1: him was Paul Bonacci. You know, that's where that whole
Speaker 1: conspiracy narrative came from. I think there's something to it
Speaker 1: in terms of Bonacci story, okay, But beyond that, King
Speaker 1: King mostly ran girls, but he also had a stable
Speaker 1: of callboys and the White House Callboys scandal. You had
Speaker 1: some senator who kind of quietly retired. He was this
Speaker 1: openly gay guy who was one of the big glug
Speaker 1: cabin Republicans back when they were making big like in roads,
Speaker 1: you know they they were. It was this callboy ring
Speaker 1: of these gay senators who were carrying on with underage
Speaker 1: you know, male prostitutes procured by Lawrence King. And that's
Speaker 1: just like not disgusted. Ever, it's like it didn't ever happen,
Speaker 1: and it's not like it's not even like this was
Speaker 1: during Bush forty one's administration. It's not like he had
Speaker 1: some great knack for interfacing with the media at all. In fact,
Speaker 1: one of the things that killed his campaign it was,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was ross pro and a lot to
Speaker 1: do with that, the genuine recession being underway to do
Speaker 1: with that. But it really, for a guy is otherwise
Speaker 1: sophisticated as Bush forty one was, he really didn't understand
Speaker 1: the finesse and media. So my point being, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm me wrong. He himself wasn't directly implicated any of
Speaker 1: this ship but it's not like he swooped in Quinton's
Speaker 1: style would made it go away. You know, this very
Speaker 1: much just uh disappeared from the front page. I've done
Speaker 1: some of these, Uh interestingly remains a good resource. I
Speaker 1: still haunt libraries because I'm old and we you can
Speaker 1: actually find you can find data there that if you
Speaker 1: got a good public library system that uh that uh
Speaker 1: that they can't other places. And one of the only
Speaker 1: places I found reference to Lawrence King or the Callboy
Speaker 1: scandal is by getting on Chicago Public Library. Uh they
Speaker 1: took all the micro film grow Fecia had put it
Speaker 1: online obviously, and you got a libycrediting and access that
Speaker 1: I found references in the Tribune and the Sun Times
Speaker 1: and the Daily Herald and uh, the Washington Times too,
Speaker 1: from by doing you know, old like newspaper searches. But
Speaker 1: that's it, you know, I mean, I mean Wiki is
Speaker 1: garbage anyway. But you go to wiki or even if
Speaker 1: you even if you deep dive, you know, in a
Speaker 1: general search or fuck with wayback machine, you're just gonna
Speaker 1: find squibs. Like you know, Lawrence King was indicted for
Speaker 1: you know, financial crimes and oh and there's a conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory that has no merit involving Paul Bonacci and and
Speaker 1: and and people claiming that, uh you know, there's there's
Speaker 1: there's an elite sex ring that was insinuated into this
Speaker 1: pattern of criminality. So and that's it's not directly on
Speaker 1: point to a cultic stuff. But for people who don't
Speaker 1: know Bonacci, Bonacci was a very very disturbed guy, and
Speaker 1: he first came to people's knowledge because he said he
Speaker 1: had information on Johnny Gosh. And that's one of the
Speaker 1: most fucked up cases, cold cases, or I've ever heard of.
Speaker 1: And I grew I was a little alone at me,
Speaker 1: but I was a little kid when that happened. And
Speaker 1: Gosh was the first kid whose face appeared on a
Speaker 1: milk carton, you know, I mean that was a bizarre
Speaker 1: thing too, man for those for the youngsters, you know,
Speaker 1: in these kind of lame eighties nostalgia shows or whatever,
Speaker 1: like stranger things, that'll be like a set piece that
Speaker 1: was the real thing, and it'd be like Adam Walsh
Speaker 1: they found his fucking head Johnny Gosh at these like
Speaker 1: random boys and girls. Just it was like people were
Speaker 1: just like disappearing and on milk cartons and on I
Speaker 1: remember at a at the North Suburban YMCA if you
Speaker 1: got like an orange drink out of the vending machine,
Speaker 1: like sometimes it'd be like missing photos on there. But
Speaker 1: Gosh was the first kid featured. And it's like Johnny
Speaker 1: Gosh has disappeared into thin air. He was this paper
Speaker 1: boy in Iowa and he one day he goes out
Speaker 1: to deliver his papers and he's just like never seen again.
Speaker 1: And years later, but nah, and all kinds of weird
Speaker 1: things were around it. This photograph surface to this kid
Speaker 1: in bondage and some people think it was Johnny Gosh
Speaker 1: And obviously that was before facial recognition could shed light
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: There was some there was a a five or ten
Speaker 1: dollars banknote that surfaced that said something like helped me.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm Johnny, and some handwriting expert in fed
Speaker 1: law enforcement said he believed it was credible, like shit
Speaker 1: like that. But but like years later, but na, she
Speaker 1: says like, look, I know what happened to Johnny Gosh
Speaker 1: because I was there when he got kidnapped, Okay, and
Speaker 1: he he gave this whole story where he's like but
Speaker 1: not actually had an awful upbring. He was basically a street
Speaker 1: kid who had no parents. I think for a time
Speaker 1: he ended up at Boystown, you know, the orphanage, and
Speaker 1: he basically said that from a young age he got
Speaker 1: sold to this guy who was uh, this retired military
Speaker 1: guy who then started pimping him out but he said,
Speaker 1: incident to that abuse, he was subjected to these bizarre,
Speaker 1: obviously staged sorts of US psychological uh terrorist terrorism uh
Speaker 1: terroristically codd abuse scenario was to give me a memal
Speaker 1: brain fag and H, the purpose of which was to
Speaker 1: attempt to buifer kate the conscious personality and God. Uh.
Speaker 1: But I actually insisted that he was a genuine dissociate
Speaker 1: of identity. As of her case, I don't believe that exists,
Speaker 1: but I do, but the psychiatric community APA certainly believed
Speaker 1: it existed, and there would potentially be a paramilitary application
Speaker 1: for that kind of thing. Okay, So, but actually insisted
Speaker 1: he was availed to this these kinds of stressors as
Speaker 1: an attempt to bifurcate his personality in addition to him
Speaker 1: just being forced to service powerful sickos who had an
Speaker 1: appetite for children, particularly boys, but girls were victimized too.
Speaker 1: And a kid who uh was similarly abused came out
Speaker 1: and said, no, I know Paul Bonacci because I ran
Speaker 1: into him when I was being similarly exploited. And then
Speaker 1: that kid and it turned up dead. And uh, this
Speaker 1: other this girl who also testified uh in uh with
Speaker 1: an eye to validate at least some of Bonacci's uh declarations.
Speaker 1: She was indicted for perjury and went away for like
Speaker 1: two years, which is basically unheard of. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the they're rebuttal to this and forgive me because I
Speaker 1: don't have the documents in front of me to identify
Speaker 1: the fact circumstances that are truly material, because it's a
Speaker 1: huge case. But the common refrain was, well, and at
Speaker 1: Bonacci was uh, he was convicted of of of of
Speaker 1: of child molestation himself, which is common to people who've
Speaker 1: been available that kind of abuse. Okay, And uh so
Speaker 1: the common refrain was, well, Banacci's a liar and he's
Speaker 1: mentally ill as a child molestor Yeah, all those things
Speaker 1: might be true like that that that doesn't mean he
Speaker 1: made this up, you know. And he insisted, as did
Speaker 1: some of these witnesses who emerged to substantiate what he claimed,
Speaker 1: that that that Lawrence King was was all over this stuff,
Speaker 1: and then subsequently he gonna became a fall guy like
Speaker 1: another like Minnie Epstein, you know, like, oh, even if
Speaker 1: this was obviously none of this more sensational more some
Speaker 1: none of these more sensational claims are are true, but
Speaker 1: such that there was child prostitution underway, that that was
Speaker 1: this that was this black pimp king and he was
Speaker 1: just a bad apple, you know. Uh. End of story.
Speaker 1: So that's uh, you know, while not directly related to
Speaker 1: a cult beliefs and stuff, uh, I think it's all related.
Speaker 1: I mean, i'mother belief that such that officialdom is is
Speaker 1: involved in these sorts of things. I I think generally
Speaker 1: it's that it has to do with it's only to
Speaker 1: obscure the facts and write the testimony that emerges from
Speaker 1: those demise, you know, not credible as well as you know,
Speaker 1: they're like I said, even somebody like Binacci's got a
Speaker 1: tenuous relationship to the truth. There are kernels of truth.
Speaker 1: And what he says, and I think what he alleged
Speaker 1: was basically correct. That people reveiled these kinds of stressors
Speaker 1: of their eye, break down their psychic defenses and as
Speaker 1: well as diminish their inner moral core as well as
Speaker 1: the you know, alter their personality and their their conscious uh,
Speaker 1: their their conscious mind.
Speaker 2: But that I mean, no matter no matter the purpose,
Speaker 2: it seems like we see throughout history going back thousands
Speaker 2: of years, that the powerful are always attracted to having
Speaker 2: sex with children.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's really and it crosses cultures. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that was kind of the what I was
Speaker 1: getting at with the Savile discussion, the Jimmy Savile discussion
Speaker 1: I had with Burden the other day is the I mean, thankfully,
Speaker 1: this kind of conduct is fairly rare in absolute terms.
Speaker 1: Most people simply aren't even evil people aren't interested in
Speaker 1: having sex the previous children. It's it can to be
Speaker 1: a coincidence that there's this critical mass of people who
Speaker 1: are interested in that kind of deviancy in government and
Speaker 1: in you know, elite environs. That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: And and uh, generally the reason people do these kinds
Speaker 1: of things, I mean, yeah, I I'm sure that in
Speaker 1: the majority of cases it it's some pathetic devian who
Speaker 1: as these kinds of compulsions. And there's probably an aspect
Speaker 1: of mental illness there too, which doesn't mitigate their culpability
Speaker 1: obviously under laws of man or God, you know, just
Speaker 1: to be clearer, but I uh, in the case of
Speaker 1: elites and things, that's it's it's initiatory, and it's a
Speaker 1: way of sort of bonding people to a community of
Speaker 1: silence and marking them out from normalcy for all time,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's it's it's complicated, but I uh,
Speaker 1: but that's what's problematic, and that's why I go hard
Speaker 1: on the issue. When if people bandy things like Trump
Speaker 1: is a pedophile, I don't think he is, because that
Speaker 1: would have come out. He wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 1: just quash that for the past forty five years. Okay,
Speaker 1: some sort of rumors would have followed him, or some
Speaker 1: sort incredible witness would have emerged, you know, not not
Speaker 1: some pre mentally ill lady claiming he raped her in
Speaker 1: a department store in broad daylight on like Fifth Avenue
Speaker 1: or whatever. But when people say those kinds of things
Speaker 1: casually or just flippingly, you know, claim people or pedophiles
Speaker 1: when they're not, or people talk about pizzagate type nonsense,
Speaker 1: you're a fuse getting what is a real issue, you know,
Speaker 1: and you're casting you're casting it in an absurd and
Speaker 1: preposterous light. So I mean, people shouldn't muddy the conceptual
Speaker 1: environment with lies anyway. But I think it's particularly im
Speaker 1: bored when you're talking about something like that, which is
Speaker 1: sort of a hard cell anyway, because you know, people
Speaker 1: don't want to believe that kind of thing goes on.
Speaker 1: But you know, but also it's normal psychologically normal people
Speaker 1: don't they can't empathize with that. I don't mean empathize
Speaker 1: the caring about it, looking highly upon it. I mean
Speaker 1: they don't. They can't put themselves in that mindset as
Speaker 1: somebody would do these things. But if it's the same
Speaker 1: thing with the cult occultism, I mean, the norm is
Speaker 1: atavistic tendencies, even among the most civilized peoples, is there's
Speaker 1: a not ongoing thing. It doesn't go away. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why, you know, the That's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why the Roman Catholics have a comparatively rigid internal structure
Speaker 1: to their ecclesiastical affairs, because there is always the reals
Speaker 1: of strange gods insinuating themselves into the minds and souls
Speaker 1: of worshipers, and there's always a risk of dark practices
Speaker 1: re emerging under color of you know, godliness or logos.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a there's a why Iscar gave a
Speaker 1: really interesting sermon when I when I was blessed to
Speaker 1: attend one of his sermons, you know, and it was
Speaker 1: about it was about the you know, the sacrifice of
Speaker 1: Isaac and why. I mean, it's really interesting because his Iscar,
Speaker 1: his viewpoint, I mean, Iskar's is like a legit Bible scholar.
Speaker 1: I mean, the dude's forgotten more about Scripture than I
Speaker 1: will ever know, and you know, probably a hundred other
Speaker 1: people will ever know. But it's significant because even though
Speaker 1: in a lot of these got a beautiful like Renaissance
Speaker 1: or at worse, Isaac's presented as a child, Isaac was
Speaker 1: was was a teenager and all probability, but a strong back,
Speaker 1: you know, and that and the way reading between the lines,
Speaker 1: you know that it's the sacrifice of a strong young
Speaker 1: man would would please God in context. Okay, but the
Speaker 1: reason why it's that's not despite what some of these
Speaker 1: like milk Toast kind of pseudo pastors claim today, that's
Speaker 1: not something like metaphorical, uh parable, it's literally the norm
Speaker 1: is human sacrifice. We don't do that anymore. That doesn't
Speaker 1: please God anymore. There's a new way now, and God
Speaker 1: is saying, you know, we we don't need a we,
Speaker 1: we don't need a priesthood that that that sheds human
Speaker 1: blood any longer, you know, to assuage, to asswage the
Speaker 1: wrath of the creator, because that is the norm. Okay,
Speaker 1: this idea that well, no nobody you know, resorts to
Speaker 1: pagan practices owing to some pre rational fascination anymore, that
Speaker 1: that stopped a long time ago. I mean, people who
Speaker 1: think that way are monumentally ignorant or people who think that,
Speaker 1: you know, I, I don't know to be super ghoulish,
Speaker 1: but I it's pretty I'm a pretty jaded person man,
Speaker 1: And like I it's not some stupid flex but I mean,
Speaker 1: because I am if you wants away from being fifty
Speaker 1: and the way with my life, I've seen some pretty
Speaker 1: horrible stuff, So I mean not and I mean I
Speaker 1: I'm psychologically so much sensitive at a lot of things
Speaker 1: bother me. Okay, but I'm sort of callous to it.
Speaker 1: But I the first Soviet Famine, not the Hall in
Speaker 1: the Door, but the first famine of nineteen twenty one
Speaker 1: twenty three, approximately, people were resorting to cannibalism at scale
Speaker 1: in the Soviet Union. And then there was there was
Speaker 1: cases of people openly selling a human meat that had
Speaker 1: been butchered for consumption. And there's there's this nightmarish photo
Speaker 1: of this peasant man and woman with this like spectracle,
Speaker 1: just like empty look in their eyes, like standing before
Speaker 1: a table, and it looks like what's on the table.
Speaker 1: It looks like slabs of meat on offer, like you know,
Speaker 1: flank stakes or whatever. But then you notice that, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a human head there like among these things, and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god. But initially, the the nkv
Speaker 1: D whatever the precursor was, it wasn't NYKVD, but they
Speaker 1: didn't know how to deal with it. But then they said,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, well not omicidal cannibalism. We're not going
Speaker 1: to prosecute because it's become too epidemic. You know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna basically ignore it until conditions and normalcy return and
Speaker 1: and food insecurity is no longer you know, this desperate
Speaker 1: going emergency. But the reason why, the reason why there's
Speaker 1: such a strong reaction against cannibalism and why traditionally, across
Speaker 1: cultural and racial divides, cannibals have to be exterminated because
Speaker 1: something happens to people when they revert to cannibalism, and uh,
Speaker 1: they go feral, and they can't they can't be corrected.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not talking about desperate survival instances like
Speaker 1: those poor guys in the movie Alive. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: when when when people when people become cannibals, it can't
Speaker 1: be controlled, that's uh, you know, and and that this
Speaker 1: this is stuff that's well, you know, well within uh
Speaker 1: the preceding you know century that that this has happened,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's interesting too. Even the uh, the
Speaker 1: as tects, they practice ceremonial cannibalism, particularly uh of their enemies,
Speaker 1: but subtenance cannibalism was a big crime to the as sects,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sure that they're in part was
Speaker 1: an evolutionary psychological imperative around that, although it's not the
Speaker 1: whole story, that's a saying for haswat occasional emensity human
Speaker 1: finger well. In the movie Thief, which is a dope movie,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what that's what we put Michael
Speaker 1: Mann on the map. But Robert Prosky was a great
Speaker 1: unsung uh character actor. He plays this utterly savage Chicago
Speaker 1: outfit boss who's obviously modeling Joey Ayopa, who was a
Speaker 1: terrifying fucking person. He was just like a stomach called killer.
Speaker 1: But the scene where James Conn's character after he uh
Speaker 1: he shows up to Prosky's house armed and then disrespects
Speaker 1: him like for first Prosky as his as his rap
Speaker 1: he murdered played by Jim Belushi, and uh, he's dissolving
Speaker 1: him in ah that what one of the businesses, the
Speaker 1: alphre Rons is this plating company. So like poor Jim
Speaker 1: Belushi is being dissolved in this uh caustic solution. So
Speaker 1: pros is like letting your friend day fucking look at
Speaker 1: him and he's like, you know what I'll do to you.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'll put your cunt wife on the street
Speaker 1: to get fucked up the ass by niggas. Then he's
Speaker 1: like I'll take your whole family and I'll wipe them out.
Speaker 1: I'll grind them up like meat. People will be eating
Speaker 1: them and they're want Wamby burgers and not even know it,
Speaker 1: and like that happened, Like the outfit did that shit.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, Okay, you want to disappear somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, especially even even after the even after the
Speaker 1: you know, back of the yards, the back of the
Speaker 1: yard slaughter house is long gone. You know, they still
Speaker 1: control a lot of the packing industry locally. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's make this motherfucker disappear. Okay, now he's ground beef,
Speaker 1: you know, ending up in Wamy Burgers. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: horrible to think about, but yeah, that happened. I mean,
Speaker 1: I we one can drive. What's so crazy thinking about
Speaker 1: the gross stuff that's in processed food. I'm pretty discriminating
Speaker 1: in the restaurants. I'll eat it, you know. Uh, Like
Speaker 1: people make fun of me for liking some like proll slop,
Speaker 1: like suddy the light and like drinking cheap beard things,
Speaker 1: but like basically other than the other than the landmark
Speaker 1: and and the sheets or uh you know, like high
Speaker 1: end places that some of the fellas or prospress are
Speaker 1: nice enough to invite me to. I basically don't hear
Speaker 1: restaurants and that that's one of the reasons why man
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I don't want to get a
Speaker 1: burrito that's you know, made out of the hand to
Speaker 1: some like poor guy made the cartel upset. Oh, and
Speaker 1: there's this awesome in Albany Park. There's this I'm a
Speaker 1: sucker for a hummus and saffron rice and lamb meat
Speaker 1: or lambs are really delicious. I know, sheep. I suppose
Speaker 1: they kind of gross animals, Like I've never been around them.
Speaker 1: I don't know when the like, both sheep and goats
Speaker 1: are kind of gross, like the reason why the reason
Speaker 1: why Satan is a goat apparently, like goats are really
Speaker 1: horny and want to screw everything, but they also like
Speaker 1: smell really stuff and uh and in some of these
Speaker 1: old heronmous Bosh type paintings, you'll see a goat like
Speaker 1: whispering into like a nun's ear, and uh, like the
Speaker 1: claim is that the myth is that goats like whisper
Speaker 1: obscenities in the ears of Saints just because they're they're
Speaker 1: like they're perverted assholes, which is, uh, if that's true,
Speaker 1: that's actually kind of awesome. But uh that because I mean,
Speaker 1: I like the Saints. Man, it's just funny that goats
Speaker 1: are like are sort of dicks. But and in the event, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a in Albany Park there's this awesome kabab place.
Speaker 1: I know like that, I know, I know the the
Speaker 1: English and Ulster guys on deck are gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: but it's like this sun it's they got. It's run
Speaker 1: by these Iranian dudes and they're they're cool man like
Speaker 1: you know, we we're into good conversations about my shirts
Speaker 1: and stuff. But they got really awesome food. They like
Speaker 1: make humus on so I that's fucking dope. There's another
Speaker 1: place called the Peda Inn, run by these Palestinian dudes,
Speaker 1: which is dope. So it's also in skulky, so like
Speaker 1: they're holding a line like and you know it s
Speaker 1: the the tribe. But like when I was in law school,
Speaker 1: i'd go to the Peda Inn. It was on Dempster Street.
Speaker 1: It was like this a little hole in the wall shack.
Speaker 1: Like now it's like this huge place. They got like
Speaker 1: a tropical fish aquarium in there. You know, it's uh
Speaker 1: like the dude who runs it, like I remember twenty
Speaker 1: five years ago, you know, he'd be wearing like a
Speaker 1: work apern, you know, and like a branded like T shirt,
Speaker 1: you know, be able to shovel. Now, like I'll see
Speaker 1: him in there. He's like, you know, he's like wearing
Speaker 1: like a designer fit and stuff. It's kind of nice
Speaker 1: to see. And there's a at both places. There's some
Speaker 1: there's really pretty ladies who worked there and that that's
Speaker 1: nice too. But that's but yeah, that that was a
Speaker 1: hugely tangential rant.
Speaker 2: But uh, it's like a really weird uh turn there.
Speaker 1: There was a stream of constius aspect to what I
Speaker 1: do with these streams, man, And that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons I like them because a I mean, don't be
Speaker 1: wrong not playing martyr. It's aesome that people invite me
Speaker 1: to contribute to their content and stuff and are willing
Speaker 1: to come on my own pod. But you know, I
Speaker 1: got to prepare a man to get like my mind
Speaker 1: in order for that stuff. It's nice to be able
Speaker 1: to it's nice to able to fuck with the stream
Speaker 1: of constance things. I mean, maybe not so much for
Speaker 1: you guys, because make maybe my streams and constants are
Speaker 1: kind of kind of disturbing.
Speaker 2: I mean you'd have to go into some really weird
Speaker 2: places to disturb me. I mean I've basically read it all,
Speaker 2: you know, and study Oh no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah, And no, I don't wanna I don't
Speaker 1: want to be some I don't want to be some
Speaker 1: goof he's trying to like upset people with his life streams.
Speaker 1: But but no, I uh, I think originally we got
Speaker 1: on those weird topics because necessas said, you know, you
Speaker 1: might be eating fucking fools fingers in your hamburger and
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I mean that, but yeah, that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons. Well again why I'm discriminating, and the
Speaker 1: restaurants will eat it because you never know, and like
Speaker 1: a lot of I mean, there's like a lot of shits,
Speaker 1: just like sus these days in the competantly crisis is
Speaker 1: real and in ways prosaic and profound. But even stuff
Speaker 1: that's I mean, there's there's very on the nose and
Speaker 1: very flagrant sort of choke points and and fail points,
Speaker 1: you know, like how like air travel like doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 1: But there's there's just like a million other things that
Speaker 1: it's not as nearly as on the nose are discernible,
Speaker 1: but it's just like, Okay, this is now, sus, and
Speaker 1: it didn't used to be, you know. And uh, I
Speaker 1: think a restaurant is kind of the same way. You know. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of a lot of restaurants that
Speaker 1: just like seem kind of gross, you know, and uh
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't that I wouldn't really want to roll
Speaker 1: the dice on men, you know. And uh, let's too
Speaker 1: like people these these are crazy, man, and like generally, uh,
Speaker 1: at least in Shytown. Like uh, you know, the cops
Speaker 1: at the regular restaurant, they're gonna be like Spanish dudes,
Speaker 1: or they're gonna be you know, like ethnic dudes who
Speaker 1: uh reflect the uh you know, uh kulinary flavor of
Speaker 1: the restaurant. And I mean I get out with people
Speaker 1: like that, and they were like on their own tip.
Speaker 1: But like, for all I know, I I go into
Speaker 1: some like cafe or something, there's gonna be some. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be some like vegan freak or something who like
Speaker 1: saw me wearing badgies, doesn't like and it's gonna like
Speaker 1: crap in my food or something. They were like decide
Speaker 1: he's not poison and what vegan for you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to solve the difference. Yeah, I mean, well yeah, never,
Speaker 1: I'd never fucked with a vegan restaurant. But there was
Speaker 1: a place. I don't know if it's COVID or not,
Speaker 1: because I don't. I've in Evanston a lot, and then
Speaker 1: I'm in like I've been Evanston all the fucking time,
Speaker 1: and then I'm in like Ravens One all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm never really in Rogers Park and Edgewater, No, more.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean I went to college in
Speaker 1: Rogers Park and then I worked in Edgewater. I was
Speaker 1: like a young man, and so I mean I was
Speaker 1: there for you know, I was there daily for years.
Speaker 1: But I don't really I don't really go there no more.
Speaker 1: But on Sheridan Road. It was right by the old
Speaker 1: village North Theater is off the Morse red line Jarvis
Speaker 1: or Morse. I think it was Moorse. But it was
Speaker 1: placed called the Heartland Cafe, and it wasn't strictly vegan,
Speaker 1: although it was mostly that kind of stuff, like vegetarian stuff.
Speaker 1: And it was run by hippies and they had a
Speaker 1: they had a newsstand and like a little bookstore attached
Speaker 1: to it where they'd have like Socialist Worker and that
Speaker 1: kind of ship and all these like Chomsky books. And
Speaker 1: it was run by these like full on like hippies.
Speaker 1: But uh, they were always pretty cool to me, you know,
Speaker 1: uh because I was local. But uh. And they had
Speaker 1: good food like if you wanted uh it like a
Speaker 1: good like if you are a good like chicken salad,
Speaker 1: sandwich man and a coffee for like seven bucks you
Speaker 1: know you could go to but the uh, but a
Speaker 1: proper like vegan places, and then this is like disgusting
Speaker 1: slop and uh, I yeah, I mean I would wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't fuck with vegan stuff on general principle, but also yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like gross. I'm not gonna be wrong. I've
Speaker 1: got a pretty I got a pretty you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a fucking I'm I'm an Anglo German proud. I gotta
Speaker 1: I got a pretty dull palette. You know. I uh
Speaker 1: that the blt with avocados is like the king of
Speaker 1: sandwiches to me. I think, uh, I think the greatest
Speaker 1: killinary achievement ever is pizza. You know, I growed him up.
Speaker 1: My mom was old school, and despite or sort of
Speaker 1: wildness and quirkiness, some things about her were like conventionally domestic.
Speaker 1: And she was a really good cook, you know. She
Speaker 1: she'd make stuff like pot roast, you know, like Yankee
Speaker 1: pot roast, like meat loaf, and you know, different kinds
Speaker 1: of uh like old school American stuff. But I uh
Speaker 1: about as exotic as I get. I'm not a big
Speaker 1: steef food guy, but I really like good sushi in
Speaker 1: part because it agrees in my guts. And just like
Speaker 1: a lot of things, don't I can eat sushi all day.
Speaker 1: They used to do this great sushi place on East Erie,
Speaker 1: like two hundred pocket East Erie, right in Streeterville, and
Speaker 1: uh it looked like it look like a set piece
Speaker 1: from a Ridley Scott movie, you know. Uh, and it
Speaker 1: was actually it was run by actual Japanese. I think
Speaker 1: one of the a couple of kitchen guys with Koreans,
Speaker 1: but otherwise, you know, it was like properly Japanese. And
Speaker 1: I used to in law school. I reconnected with this
Speaker 1: lady that I had gone to high school with, and
Speaker 1: uh we started like hanging out a lot. And I, uh.
Speaker 2: Were hanging out when you were in New York with
Speaker 2: the uh with the fellows, did they take you sending
Speaker 2: the good restaurants sir?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And uh I ended up at
Speaker 1: this really good German restaurant because Dylan because a great guy.
Speaker 1: I hope he's well. I haven't heard of him for
Speaker 1: a minute, you know, Uh, Dylan Steudek. Uh. He took
Speaker 1: us to this German place in Mayhead and like in
Speaker 1: midtown Mayhead, And yeah, I was mostly in Brooklyn, you know,
Speaker 1: which was dope. I love New York. I don't know
Speaker 1: why people don't share it on it like they do.
Speaker 1: But he's like, yeah, I want to see howlet's play
Speaker 1: stacks up to the chets. So there was like ten
Speaker 1: of us there, you know, actually Worris probably like fifteen people,
Speaker 1: you know, and like a bunch of the wives came
Speaker 1: along and the people were hosting me were just great.
Speaker 1: This guy oh and his wife Vienna, and they got
Speaker 1: this like little daughter his cubs of button, and uh
Speaker 1: like we we became buddies, like I gotta go to
Speaker 1: report little kids and animals, but she did they might
Speaker 1: even congress because I'm kind of a weird fucking person,
Speaker 1: but uh I uh it was awesome and uh like
Speaker 1: she was all excited because uh and her parents are
Speaker 1: really cultured people, but uh like little little kids aren't
Speaker 1: used to stuff like German food, you know. So I
Speaker 1: was telling her, I was like, I was talking about
Speaker 1: like schnitzel. I guess something my schnitzel. I'm like it's like,
Speaker 1: I like, you ever ran like country right steak And she's
Speaker 1: like yeah, I'm like it's a country right steak, but
Speaker 1: like German people eat. Since she decided it was okay,
Speaker 1: but uh the uh I basically ordered We ordered a
Speaker 1: bunch of ambatis for the table, and then I ordered
Speaker 1: like the kind of stuff I do out with Chet's,
Speaker 1: you know. Uh I Uh, I got there, I got there, Gulash,
Speaker 1: I got there Schnitzel. And it was good, definitely better
Speaker 1: than Berghoffs. You know, Bergoffs is like the tourist trap
Speaker 1: crowd place here. Chet smokes it though. Lat's Gula, which
Speaker 1: is is the best man. It's like, it's so fucking good.
Speaker 1: I'd uh if the only thing I could eat or
Speaker 1: drink for the rest of my life was uh Lasht, Gulache,
Speaker 1: blt s, bush Mills and and pbr, I'd be like, bet,
Speaker 1: that's fine with me. I mean, I mean, like, like
Speaker 1: my organ had probably fail if I didn't need anything
Speaker 1: else but I but I'd be fine with that. I
Speaker 1: die with a smile on my face as a big
Speaker 1: fat ass or whatever. But the but no, I uh
Speaker 1: and it's uh and this was a proper this place
Speaker 1: that Dylan took us to. It was uh. I think
Speaker 1: it was actually like a It was Hungarian and German,
Speaker 1: so they had more of like an Austrian stamp on it,
Speaker 1: you know. And uh and uh like there was actually
Speaker 1: like Hungarian language items on the menu and shit. And
Speaker 1: I know there's nothing bad I can say about it,
Speaker 1: but it's it's dope. The restaurant, to hear people way
Speaker 1: from here is prost. Those guys. First of all, their
Speaker 1: food's kind of shitty, and they got a bunch of
Speaker 1: like dumb ass like American Rando's working there. They don't
Speaker 1: even have any crowds working there. And like this fuck
Speaker 1: kid like manager there, like he wait, so we'd have
Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom, and then like he he
Speaker 1: told me I was. I was a bunch of bunch
Speaker 1: of the fellows, including some of the grapers who were
Speaker 1: in town. They invited me out there, and I was
Speaker 1: with my homie Anders, who's a great guy, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: and uh they uh, this guy waits to go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom and he comes from starts talking shit like
Speaker 1: about my hack and cruise ring and like saying, I'm
Speaker 1: like an asshole. And then he's like, you know, he
Speaker 1: tells these guys like not to bring me back there.
Speaker 1: I'm like when I stay on my face at dickhead,
Speaker 1: so whereas he gets no tip, you know, and uh,
Speaker 1: when I went to pay the girl, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: like I told her, I'm like, uh, you know, like
Speaker 1: I I eat out frequently, and I told him I
Speaker 1: go to the chef's a lot, you know. I'm like
Speaker 1: they was appreciating my business. I'm like, I find your
Speaker 1: food sub far. I'm like, I find the attitude of
Speaker 1: the people work you're horrible, you know. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: who the fuck are you to like excoriate people before
Speaker 1: you think their politics? Are? You know, Like it's you're
Speaker 1: the are you there? Are you mister uh like waiter?
Speaker 1: Ideological enforcer? Like I you know, all things really run
Speaker 1: me the wrong way. And it's like, don't if you're
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna come at people like that, Like,
Speaker 1: don't don't be a punk. I'm not a scary person.
Speaker 1: I'm old as fuck, you know. And I've got like
Speaker 1: health problems.
Speaker 2: That didn't even that didn't even happen to us in Portland.
Speaker 2: That didn't even happen to us in Portland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, am a German restaurant in a fucking white hood.
Speaker 1: It's like, what do you you know? No, in Portland's
Speaker 1: actually people are cool man like And I even when
Speaker 1: you get out to the when you get out by
Speaker 1: the coast, Like I said, man, uh Anthony Ramundo, who
Speaker 1: is awesome, Like he's the best you guys gotta meet
Speaker 1: and think I'm acquainted because he's a fucking princeman. But
Speaker 1: he uh like when I the way to Coos Bay,
Speaker 1: uh like we stopped, Uh, we stopped in Eugene because
Speaker 1: I wanted to because Ante and his wife were hosting me.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get you know, missus Ramuno some flowers
Speaker 1: and stuff, and plus I wanted to pick up some Sunderyes.
Speaker 1: That was the day after I'd gotten like thrown out
Speaker 1: of the strip club and I was like a hungover
Speaker 1: and just kind of like in a weird headspace. And
Speaker 1: uh like poor Anthony because like he picked me up
Speaker 1: in Portland, which is great, but I was kind of
Speaker 1: like a mess for like the first like five or
Speaker 1: six hours in the journey, and I started kind of
Speaker 1: coming alive again. But then he, uh, he wanted to
Speaker 1: show me this shop because he's like, they'll get a
Speaker 1: kick out of the store. Is it's like this kind
Speaker 1: of like out of these shop run by these like
Speaker 1: wicked chicks, you know, like full on like goth wicked chicks.
Speaker 1: But they got uh, they got all that kind of
Speaker 1: like weird uh occulty stuff, and like you go into
Speaker 1: the doorway, they had this, uh they had this full
Speaker 1: confession booth from this old church that had been uh
Speaker 1: torn down after being fire damaged, and they they like
Speaker 1: rescue Dad. It was from like the eighteen forties. And
Speaker 1: I got uh. I started talking to these these girls
Speaker 1: who like run the place because they they liked uh.
Speaker 1: They're asking me, like about my buttons and stuff on
Speaker 1: my leather jacket, and uh, you know, we kind of
Speaker 1: hit it off. So I bought. Uh. I got this
Speaker 1: huge you ever seeing the vi incense burners where it
Speaker 1: almost looks at the smoke looks like a stream, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's uh yeah, I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: those before, you know, and I saw them and I'm
Speaker 1: like that's awesome. I'm like, I'm like, you have more
Speaker 1: than just that one? And they're like, yeah, so I
Speaker 1: found one. It's this huge grim reaper and uh it
Speaker 1: looks like he's standing in front of what was supposed
Speaker 1: to be the river sticks and like when you burn
Speaker 1: the incense cones, the smoke like it becomes the river
Speaker 1: and like that's so fucking cool. It's like I bought that,
Speaker 1: and then I bought a bunch of stuff for the
Speaker 1: girls to work at uh who work at the Landmark,
Speaker 1: you know, just like suming eerie shit because like when
Speaker 1: I go on vacation, I the ladies cheat you really well,
Speaker 1: so I try and like bring stuff back. My point being,
Speaker 1: I think I was wearing a I think I was
Speaker 1: wearing a skullhead or a yachin pipe or shirt. I
Speaker 1: was wearing my leather jacket because it was still kind
Speaker 1: of chilly at night out there. You know. It's like
Speaker 1: on my National Socialist badges, like they did they didn't care,
Speaker 1: you know, like this idea that oh if you walk
Speaker 1: around in Portland, you know you're gonna people gonna throw
Speaker 1: acid in your face and like kill you. It's like
Speaker 1: it's it's like nobody's like that, man, unless you're unless
Speaker 1: you're at unless I was in college campus or something,
Speaker 1: or you know, your your your jive is doing something
Speaker 1: like Charlie Kirk used to do and say, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna like own the Libs or you know
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna go, or when I'm in the UK,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go troll Cambridge. You know, and and tell
Speaker 1: them like what with dipshit liberals they are or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's this idea that yeah,
Speaker 1: people are gonna try and check you for that is
Speaker 1: incredibly stupid and it's like, you know, what are they
Speaker 1: gonna do anyway? But no, That's why I was kind
Speaker 1: of shocked by this fool at Prosted and it's uh
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I never particularly liked that place anyway,
Speaker 1: but uh, it used to be a pretty good bar
Speaker 1: next to it, called the Green Eye Lounge. I think
Speaker 1: this is like years of bick you know. So, I
Speaker 1: mean I like that neighborhood. It's not it's not like
Speaker 1: that neighbor it's bigically coded that way or something. But
Speaker 1: even uh, I used to uh, I used to have to.
Speaker 1: I mean this was twenty five years ago. But I
Speaker 1: when I worked in Edgewater, i'd get off. I had
Speaker 1: a car then, but the girl I was with worked
Speaker 1: nice too, and uh so i'd get for the car,
Speaker 1: you know, somewhat. I obviously I want to be safe,
Speaker 1: and I I never mind like taking that the CTA anyway,
Speaker 1: But what i'd do is i'd take I I take
Speaker 1: the I get on at Main Street and Evidston. I
Speaker 1: take the purple lighte Howard, I get on Howard Street,
Speaker 1: get up again the Howard Street red Line, disembarkt Brindam Hour,
Speaker 1: and then I just walked west to Clark and Ridge.
Speaker 1: So that was and that's when Edgewater was basically like
Speaker 1: the fag ghetto, like boys town, you know, like around
Speaker 1: Roscoe and stuff. That was uh that that was that
Speaker 1: was like yuppie fag town. The Gadgewater was like the
Speaker 1: fag ghetto. It was like dude like the movie Cruising,
Speaker 1: but you know that it was like it was full
Speaker 1: of those guys like twenty twenty five, thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: and like you'd see him like hanging around cent Park
Speaker 1: and stuff, and you know it's not yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: whatever flag you're flying there like this is that those
Speaker 1: guys aren't gonna care. I mean if you if you,
Speaker 1: if you're walking on in a sweatshirt that said like
Speaker 1: I hate faggots or something like, maybe maybe they would,
Speaker 1: but I'd probably they'd probably even then be like whatever,
Speaker 1: Like I think you were like some art students like
Speaker 1: we have troll thing or something.
Speaker 2: You know, people don't realize, you know, at the time
Speaker 2: I was growing up in New York. You know how
Speaker 2: bad it was, You know how many body Yeah, drop
Speaker 2: it in the streets. I me and my buddy and
Speaker 2: my one of my closest friends growing up was in
Speaker 2: a six foot five Irish guy who was a real
Speaker 2: door coke bottle glasses.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We used to go down to like Times Square when
Speaker 2: Times Square was like there was literal human.
Speaker 1: Trafficking going on. Oh yeah, yeah huge.
Speaker 2: We go down there at like three am to go
Speaker 2: to like Playland, which was an arcade, and we do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we weren't. We weren't down there to cause trouble. No
Speaker 2: one ever looked at us twice. No one ever fucked
Speaker 2: with us. No one's gonna fuck with you unless you
Speaker 2: were gonna you start popping off about something. Yeah, minds
Speaker 2: of your business.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, unless you call it, unless you're incorrect, or
Speaker 1: unless you're obviously like some fucking roob or something, or
Speaker 1: like you know, marking yourself out as a lane. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I don't know people think people are gonna do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I mean obviously I'm discriminating and when
Speaker 1: I hang out, but uh, you know, I Chicago remains
Speaker 1: like one of the most hood coated crime written like
Speaker 1: crime written cities in America in the way that normies
Speaker 1: think about it. You know. It's it's like you think,
Speaker 1: you think it must be like walking down the street
Speaker 1: here and people are gonna like empty up fucking mag
Speaker 1: into your face or something. It's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what they think is gonna happen, you know. And uh
Speaker 1: And like I said, I one of the reasons I
Speaker 1: I say, I push it back when people like like
Speaker 1: the nineties were so based or something. The early nineties
Speaker 1: were fucked and it's nothing like that today, man, you know,
Speaker 1: and I mean even that, it's not like people are
Speaker 1: gonna like it's not like neutrons or just like getting dropped.
Speaker 1: But I mean you would, you would get hurt in
Speaker 1: the wrong hood just because it's like there's I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're a you're a white person. You're it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna fuck you up. You know, nobody's gonna play tag
Speaker 1: you're it. Let's tells me too, like I you know again,
Speaker 1: it's like I'm fifty years old and like not good health.
Speaker 1: I mean, knowing me wrong, like somebody tried to hurt me.
Speaker 1: I I dorming in my power to make sure it
Speaker 1: costs them dearly. But uh, you know, ain't nobody afraid
Speaker 1: of me? Man, And like nobody's gonna what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? You tell your homies? Yeah, like I saw this,
Speaker 1: Like I saw this fifty year old guy with a cane,
Speaker 1: and like I stopped him out. I'm gonnaavyweight champion now,
Speaker 1: or like you're gonna get you then he gets charges,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get felly charges for like yeah this, I
Speaker 1: didn't like to shirt this guy had on and he
Speaker 1: was like obviously some kind of rednecks. So like I
Speaker 1: so I shot him. I mean, plus, I mean, I
Speaker 1: you know, I admittedly this is my reformed heroage speaking.
Speaker 1: But uh you know, if you number's up, man, your
Speaker 1: numbers up. That's why I don't worry about stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: there is stuff I worry about, but I don't sit
Speaker 1: around worrying about dying, like honestly don't. There's not much
Speaker 1: esualor I'm gonna flex because there's nothing you can do
Speaker 1: about it. You know, like that's already that that's that's
Speaker 1: in the hands of providence and that was that was decided,
Speaker 1: you know, that was decided literally at the beginning of tie.
Speaker 1: So there's nothing you can do to change it anyway,
Speaker 1: So why would I get upset?
Speaker 2: But I'm yeah, I mean no reason the uh you know,
Speaker 2: I think most people, if they really think about it,
Speaker 2: they're more scared of suffering than they are of dying.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, And I my big fear, Like I said,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to make this and I don't
Speaker 1: want to end this on a downer, but I was
Speaker 1: so concerned the past month or so because when at
Speaker 1: when my symbols are at their worst. And I'm still
Speaker 1: not totally O the woods, but I I I mean,
Speaker 1: you were with me at the lake man, like I
Speaker 1: there are days I could the walk man and becoming
Speaker 1: becoming some invalid he's got to rely on other people
Speaker 1: to get around or you know, like put his fucking
Speaker 1: shoes on. I mean that that's a nightmare, man. I
Speaker 1: mean that, that's my big fear. But I mean, thankfully
Speaker 1: I've been. I've been. Yesterday I was feeling I mean,
Speaker 1: you can tell my respiratory issues are kind of bad
Speaker 1: right now, but even the past yes, since Monday, i've been.
Speaker 1: I've been walking on assisted man, I haven't even been
Speaker 1: carrying a kne you know, so knock on wood.
Speaker 2: But you know, I've gotten to the point where I
Speaker 2: can still do a lot of work, shovel a lot
Speaker 2: of shovel a lot of soil, move a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff around as long as it's not hot outside. You know,
Speaker 2: our our our friend z Man, you know, it looks
Speaker 2: like he died because he went out and he worked
Speaker 2: in the sun. And ever since, ever since then, I'm
Speaker 2: very conscious of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's like, so many uh, a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of guysn't even particularly elderly, they die because you know,
Speaker 1: after a big snow storm, they're they're like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be a pussy young and shovel my own
Speaker 1: snow and that really that can really tax your cir
Speaker 1: respiratory system and you can stroke out or heart attic.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, no doubt this was great. Man. Like
Speaker 1: I I mean, I always appreciate collaborating on the streams
Speaker 1: with me. That's essential.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was We didn't The thing I think I
Speaker 2: enjoyed the most is is that we didn't talk about
Speaker 2: Rabbi Trump basically at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I I it warn't in mention because
Speaker 1: I don't just want to ignore current events in the
Speaker 1: domestic sense, because I don't think that's responsible. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I I there's no need for endless color commentary on
Speaker 1: the ant to of of of these regime personages. Yeah, God, God,
Speaker 1: God bless uh z Man. He he's very much present.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I uh and again I'm will uh will
Speaker 1: bang out the I'm I'm totally good to go in
Speaker 1: terms of premise stuff for the next Iikaman episode. And
Speaker 1: it's an important subject matter because it deals with I
Speaker 1: in particular, uh at A had a very strange relationship
Speaker 1: with Zionism and that that was definitely the minority position
Speaker 1: within the SD and and the shoe staff and the
Speaker 1: the security. I've read it generally, but I for yesterday,
Speaker 1: I like I said, I'm thrown out of the woods Man.
Speaker 1: I forgive me for postponing, but I'll beg Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then uh Friday, I got it's being out of sheds tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I got dinner at the Chets Saturday. I'm assuming I'm
Speaker 1: up to it. I'm I'm going to Emperor is playing
Speaker 1: the Aragon and that should be fucking Yeah. It takes
Speaker 1: a lot to get me out to a show. But there,
Speaker 1: first of all, I always run into cool people that
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and I like the Aragon. It's just
Speaker 1: a cool venue. And uh, I didn't think I'd ever
Speaker 1: get to see Emperor because I mean even even Emperor
Speaker 1: played a handful of dates around two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: I think in the United States and uh acts like uh,
Speaker 1: actually Emperor always plays Chicago, you know. But uh, I
Speaker 1: wasn't going to pass that up, you know, unless I'm
Speaker 1: I'm feeling really rough. But uh, but point working around
Speaker 1: those things. And obviously it's you know, on Sunday, you know,
Speaker 1: it commemorates the resurrection of our Lord at being Easter.
Speaker 1: But working around those uh, working around a little some
Speaker 1: vari wolves. Uh, we can TCB anytime. And again I
Speaker 1: apologize for being a flake, but no problem. We'll take care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, buddy, I'm gonna I'm gonna go. Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go have a b olt. L all right, do it.
Speaker 1: Stalk to your letter man, Thank you, Bye everybody,