1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,639 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome into another episode of Profit Picks. 2 00:00:04,679 --> 00:00:07,679 If you are new, we always start to show by 3 00:00:07,719 --> 00:00:10,800 being transparent. Yesterday I only ended up getting to the 4 00:00:10,839 --> 00:00:13,839 window with one play, and I'm not even sure that 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,839 I talked about it yesterday, but over forty and a 6 00:00:17,879 --> 00:00:20,600 half after thinking about the game more and more and more, 7 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:23,239 you know, I talked about it with some of my 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,719 friends and my thoughts were, you know, we talked. We said, 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,359 how the Giant's gonna score right? And the more I 10 00:00:31,399 --> 00:00:35,240 thought about it, you're missing Carter on the D line 11 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:39,920 in the secondary. And I did say this. My friends 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,840 can vouch for me. I said, Ringo is the weakness 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,000 he's been getting picked on. He can get picked on 14 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:48,240 in this game. And from the first drive he threw 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:54,079 it up one on one with Ringo stakes and Jackson 16 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:58,600 Dirt plays solid. So ended up getting there with over 17 00:00:58,679 --> 00:01:00,399 forty and a half and it wasn't when. So I'm 18 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:04,319 happy about that. You know, hopefully you had a good 19 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:05,680 day as well. How you doing today? 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: I'm good, Ski, I'll you know, yesterday was a slight, 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,879 slight loss because the big play did win. And I think, boy, 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,680 I can't remember, but I think it's the one we 23 00:01:17,799 --> 00:01:19,680 used as the best bet here on the show, the 24 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:24,599 Georgia Southern Southern miss game over. If it wasn't the 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,959 one we used here on the show, I can't even remember, 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,400 but that was the big play for clients last night. 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,640 The losses came with the Eagles team total over twenty 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,599 four and a half and I had seventeen with eight 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,840 minutes and forty seconds left in the second quarter and 30 00:01:40,879 --> 00:01:44,760 they never scored again. So unhappy with the Eagles, who 31 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:46,599 looked like it was going to be a coast job. 32 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:50,239 If you're gambling guys, never feel that way. Never feel 33 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:52,519 like it's a coast job, because it's never that easy. 34 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:55,799 And then the other side that I had was the 35 00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:59,640 too late East Carolina game over, and I was praying 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,959 for overtime at the end of that game, ECU was 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,280 on a drive, but it didn't happen. So one and two. 38 00:02:05,719 --> 00:02:08,080 But like I say, minimal loss because the big play 39 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:10,439 was Georgia Southern Southern miss over the total they got 40 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:11,280 there rather easily. 41 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,479 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, you know. I was happy to 42 00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:20,240 see uh you know, I I've come to dislike a 43 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:24,360 lot of these Eagle fans. The Jalen Hurts faithful. I 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,879 just I don't get it. They love him like he's 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,599 the best quarterback on the planet. And I was, for 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,080 one happy to see uh, yesterday's performance. I'll just say that. 47 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: Got me. Yeah. When Mitchell though, well, you know what, 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,319 I live right here, for those who don't know, I 49 00:02:45,319 --> 00:02:47,879 live outside of Philadelphia, maybe thirty five minutes from the stadium. 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,439 And it was a bad week overall for Philadelphia fans. 51 00:02:51,479 --> 00:02:54,599 I mean, the Dodgers go into Philly Saturday Sunday, win 52 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,479 two games, win the series. Last night Broncos go into Philly, 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,000 beat the Eagles. Eagles go to the Giants get waxed, 54 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,080 and they haven't had a good thing happened to them 55 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,280 in about five days. Ski. And the joke here is 56 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,840 always just look out on the Ben Franklin Bridge, because 57 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:12,960 these Eagles and Philly fans, these Philly fans will be 58 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,400 jumping off the Ben Franklin Bridge when things don't code 59 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,759 their way. So it hasn't been good here at all 60 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:18,599 for Philadelphia. 61 00:03:19,719 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: We'll see if they can clean it up in the 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,120 near future. All right, let's get this some actionable info 63 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,439 for today, and we have a lot to talk about, 64 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:31,639 So We'll start how we always do with ladies first, 65 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,879 So let's get back here to the screen that is 66 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:38,240 the Aces in the Mercury. Game four of the WNBA 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,759 Finals opened a minus one for the Aces and they 68 00:03:42,759 --> 00:03:46,000 are pretty much too everywhere. Total open one sixty four 69 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:48,120 and a half and it's down in one sixty or 70 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:52,840 is down as low as one sixty three. Injury report 71 00:03:53,319 --> 00:03:57,199 nobody on there for the Aces. Statu Sabi will not 72 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,560 be available for the Mercury with the concussion, and man, 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,080 you know, I mean Mercury have been right there at 74 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,639 the end of two of these games at least they've 75 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:12,159 had a chance. But now down oh three, it's like, uh, 76 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:16,920 you know, it's pretty much just wrap it up, no satu. 77 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,040 You see the line difference from Game three in Game four, 78 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:24,800 I mean Mercury minus four and a half I think 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,360 was the closer. Now they're a two point dog. Big move. 80 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,759 I know Satu is important, but is it going to 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,560 be you know, it's easy saw two's out. They have 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,120 no chance to take the Aces. They win, they win 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,959 big or is this line maybe shorter for a reason 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,959 then they can still be competitive as far as the Mercury. 85 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, full game is hard for me here, Ski, because 86 00:04:49,639 --> 00:04:55,000 my feeling is that the Mercury will play effort wise 87 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,480 according to score. If it's if it starts out and 88 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:01,639 it's closer, they're in the lead and the crowd is 89 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,240 behind them, then I think they'll stay in this thing. 90 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,680 But if Las Vegas gets out to a big start 91 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,519 like they did in the last game, I don't know 92 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,720 that Phoenix has another comeback in them. I'd really look 93 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,079 more towards endgame with this contest. You mentioned saw that's 94 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,800 twenty two points a game in this series that's now missing. 95 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,199 And I think I had mentioned the other day that 96 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:27,040 we needed to see the role players play. Dwana Bonner 97 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,839 played fantastic in the last game and they still couldn't win. 98 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:36,079 So it's a young team. We know Alyssa Thomas is 99 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,439 gonna play as hard as she always plays. I just 100 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,360 worry about everything else surrounding her. If Las Vegas gets 101 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,639 out of the gates quickly again. And I think at 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:50,000 this point in time, Becky Hammond and the Aces have 103 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,199 that mentality of let's just finish this thing off. They 104 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:58,040 look pretty solid so far through three. I know Phoenix 105 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,639 has been close in a couple you know, the Game 106 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,560 one is the one that really hurt Phoenix in my 107 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,399 estimation here, last last game was a valiant comeback effort. 108 00:06:07,439 --> 00:06:10,040 But I don't know the way Las Vegas is playing 109 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,800 offensively right now. It's interesting, Ski, I think more than 110 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,680 anything that sat two and twenty two points per game 111 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,680 in this series are missing and the total only goes 112 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:22,639 down from one sixty four and a half to win 113 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,040 sixty three and a half. It almost makes you feel 114 00:06:25,079 --> 00:06:28,279 like the osmakers are telling you Las Vegas is gonna 115 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,399 do what they've been doing the whole time, and that's 116 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:34,199 score a lot of points. I would have thought that 117 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,199 game would have gone down to about one sixty one 118 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,000 and a half by now, but it hasn't. 119 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. It was definitely you know, 120 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,800 it catches my attention at the total didn't move start two. 121 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:51,560 It is worth a lot of points. Yeah, that's tough 122 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:54,839 as far as the total. I mean, I would think 123 00:06:54,959 --> 00:07:00,240 under like you said, but thought wise, let's just talk 124 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,120 about it like this for a second. I mean, human 125 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:06,439 nature could kick in for the Aces up three zero 126 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,879 already kind of thinking they won. Maybe the Mercury have 127 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,000 some pride come out here and you know they don't 128 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,319 want to get swept on their home court. That could 129 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:21,319 be a thing. What else can the Mercury do basketball wise? 130 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,240 I mean, they still have talent Khalid Copper. I would 131 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,560 look towards her points because if they're going to be 132 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,079 in a game, they're going to need a big offensive 133 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:35,759 performance from her. I think Natasha Mack can bring a 134 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,920 lot of what they were lacking. I mean, I just 135 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,600 think back to when I was watching that game, that 136 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,839 last game three for one to start the game. Aces 137 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:47,480 weren't missing a lot, right, but a few times they 138 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,279 were missing and it wasn't a foul. They were getting 139 00:07:50,279 --> 00:07:52,279 a rebound and getting a second chance to shoot again. 140 00:07:53,079 --> 00:07:55,680 So Natasha Mac should be able to help clean up 141 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:00,800 the boards and finish possessions as well as maybe he'll 142 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:06,079 protect the rim. So I think that can be something 143 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:12,920 that's positive for Phoenix. And uh, the line, I don't know. 144 00:08:12,959 --> 00:08:14,800 The line just makes me think that Phoenix can can 145 00:08:14,839 --> 00:08:18,079 still take this game. I don't feel very strongly about it. 146 00:08:18,199 --> 00:08:20,759 I haven't played it yet, but I have a small 147 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:26,079 lane to Phoenix at home. Plus the two points. Yeah, 148 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,120 they didn't put Natasha max rebounds up or else, I'd 149 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,879 be very interested in that do want to. Bonner's probably 150 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:35,960 another person who could you know who will have to rebound, 151 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,559 But if Max's gonna be playing a lot of minutes, 152 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:40,960 I don't know that I want to bet Bonner. So 153 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,519 that's why I haven't really gotten there. I was waiting, 154 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,279 wait and wait, and thinking Mac would get put up, 155 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,720 but it still hasn't been put up yet. So lean 156 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,240 Mercury here plus the two lean under anything else you 157 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:55,080 want to touch on this one before you move on. 158 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just hard for me. Ski. Like you said, 159 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,840 I haven't this game, and again I'll just reiterate simply 160 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:06,360 because I think it's more of an in game type 161 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,519 of play. You want to look and see where Phoenix 162 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,879 is at, where their heads are at, and maybe even 163 00:09:10,919 --> 00:09:13,840 to your point, where Las Vegas heads are at. You know, 164 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,399 a human nature would be, let's just go home and 165 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,840 clinch this thing. We'll do it in front of our 166 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,480 own fans. That does happen periodically. I look at their 167 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,200 team total of eighty two, the Las Vegas aces, and 168 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,960 just every single thing we've seen in this series wants 169 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 me to just say bet over eighty two for the 170 00:09:31,039 --> 00:09:33,799 aces and let the chips fall where they may with 171 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:38,000 everything else but haven't played, might not play a lot 172 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:40,000 of other stuff we can do tonight other than that. 173 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: So for Jay, really quick, he says, how do you 174 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,879 go from four and a half to two in a 175 00:09:44,879 --> 00:09:46,840 close out game with the star player missing from an 176 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,000 opposing team? It was Phoenix minus four and a half. 177 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:52,080 Now it's Phoenix plus two. But it is a six 178 00:09:52,159 --> 00:09:55,600 and a half point moves. I don't know if I 179 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,080 maybe said it wrong or something, but it was a 180 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:00,799 six and a half point move. People in the chat, 181 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,480 this is what I'm thinking here, you know, so look 182 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,919 last game, everybody's saying, you know, myself included, I think, 183 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,960 you know, Phoenix down oh two, gonna get you know, 184 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,799 the kitchen sink game. You know what I'm saying. Everybody 185 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:19,559 thought that way. Everybody bet that way. You saw how 186 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,720 it was officiated. It looked like we were in Las 187 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:32,840 Vegas already. So now yeah, now nobody wants anything to 188 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,159 do with Phoenix. Now everybody's better than if Aces or nothing. 189 00:10:36,159 --> 00:10:39,120 It's over already and they're missing side too. There's no 190 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,399 way the Mercury can win. Look at Greg Gibson here, 191 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,159 says Aces, No, they can beat them to the league 192 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:47,919 probably to lose to make some money by playing another game. 193 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,919 I mean, we always say that in the NBA, you know, 194 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,759 I think true. If somebody's getting a whistle tonight, it 195 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:59,559 will finally be the Mercury. So combination of that Natasha 196 00:10:59,639 --> 00:11:03,720 mac Out on the board finishing possessions and them just 197 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,840 playing with some pride and the Aces potentially overlooking them, 198 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:14,200 I think Mercury plus would be uh decide, I'd have 199 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:15,840 to land on there if you know, it won't be 200 00:11:16,159 --> 00:11:17,000 a big bet, But. 201 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: Can we get Sammy Wickham to finally make a couple 202 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,879 of threes and at least let us know she's involved 203 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:24,919 in the series. It's I mean that that's such a 204 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,720 key spot for Phoenix to make threes and it just 205 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:32,159 hasn't been the last couple of games and she's been 206 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,679 non existent. So role player at home, I don't know. 207 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:41,759 If she starts hitting from the from the outset could 208 00:11:41,759 --> 00:11:45,039 be a different deal. But there's too many ifs for 209 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:46,799 to get. 210 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: And then one more last if if the refs allowed 211 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,279 them to actually play defense, that's how Phoenix has a chance. 212 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,360 They're calling foul foul, foul. Phoenix has no shot. They 213 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,759 got here by playing defense. Aces out of offense team. 214 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,200 So if you're just calling foul foul, foul, you're giving 215 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,480 advantage to the ass. If they allowed him to play 216 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,600 physical and play defense, Mercury can have a chance. 217 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,519 Speaker 2: Tell them that Tasha Mac just go rough Asia up. 218 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,759 That's what we need. You got five pounds just man? 219 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,519 Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, that that I'm not gonna lie. That 220 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,559 might be a one percenter for me, you know, all right? 221 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: That used to be a club, the one. 222 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:33,159 Speaker 1: Let's get this out the way really quick, because it 223 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:35,759 is a big game. Although I don't have a lot 224 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:39,559 to say about it, but Detroit and Seattle school Ball 225 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:49,440 and Kirby. Just in short, I trust School, like you 226 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:51,320 know he's gonna I mean, you know how great of 227 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,320 a picture is regardless what the outcome is today, that's 228 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,679 somebody I would you know, I personally am not running 229 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,159 to the window to go better and over if I 230 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,720 see him on the mount. Kirby I respect as well. 231 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:06,480 And I think that Seattle has a solid bullpen. I 232 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:08,919 do worry that they may have taxed the bullpen a 233 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:13,240 little bit in these past couple of games. So I 234 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:19,279 think like that probably first five under, even though I 235 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,600 expect School to go long he has to, and when 236 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:24,519 I think like that, it should include the full game. 237 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,440 I don't know. I'm back and forth here. I can 238 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:32,120 only try to bet some way of an under anything 239 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:33,519 from you here on this one, Robo. 240 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't argue that the first five inning under 241 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,279 is two and a half. Man's that's as low as 242 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,799 I've ever seen two and a half. But it's probably justified, Ski, 243 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:48,399 because honestly, you could see something like one to one 244 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,879 or one nothing at the end of five with these 245 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:54,320 two guys on the hill George Kirby against the Tigers offense, 246 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,480 and I think the only person that got to Scooble 247 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,120 in Game one were the two home runs that were 248 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,960 hit by Polanco. I think he hit two solos off 249 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,720 of him. Otherwise nobody touched him. I'm with you, though, 250 00:14:10,039 --> 00:14:13,320 if it's if I'm gonna play, I'm gonna play Tarik Schoogle, 251 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,720 and if I'm aj Hinch, I'm just letting him go. 252 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:21,200 H He's definitely capable of getting eight innings and it's 253 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:26,240 a tough ballpark to score runs, and a total full 254 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:29,320 game total is six Ski, I guess I would probably 255 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:31,799 lean that way, maybe under six, or I would just 256 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,559 play Detroit at plus whether or not plus price. I've 257 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,399 played Detroit in some way, shape or form, but I 258 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,200 think I would rather play under simply because the Tigers 259 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,960 offense doesn't score hardly ever, so it should be a 260 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:44,879 good pitchers matchup. 261 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, some way, shape or form. I'm trying to get 262 00:14:49,159 --> 00:14:52,200 there with the under in that one. Talk a little 263 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,240 bit of college football and he'll be rob, you know, 264 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,360 talking a little bit more of this than me. But 265 00:14:57,919 --> 00:15:01,519 we'll look at South Florida and Norte Texas. This one 266 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,960 opened up minus one and a half for North Texas. 267 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,039 Not a big move, I see, you know who is 268 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,919 a consensus and total went up a point from sixty 269 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,600 six to sixty seven. So I'll just pass it on 270 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:15,720 over to you, Ravino. Are you looking at this one 271 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,360 from her side or a total perspective? 272 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: Well, you could look at it from bold ski. I 273 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:23,960 think the safer way might be to look at it 274 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,559 from a totals perspective, but South Florida could be an 275 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:30,399 option as well. The only trouble you have with the 276 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,200 USF is you haven't seen them on the road yet, 277 00:15:34,799 --> 00:15:36,879 but you've seen them play tough teams. I mean, we 278 00:15:36,919 --> 00:15:38,480 saw the first two games of the year, they beat 279 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:40,679 Boise State. They won their second game, they went to 280 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:43,840 play Miami Florida and got beat No shame there. Miami 281 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:45,960 Florida is probably a top five team in the country 282 00:15:46,039 --> 00:15:48,519 right now. North Texas has not played that type of schedule, 283 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:51,639 but man, they score points and at home. You know, 284 00:15:51,679 --> 00:15:56,360 they actually at North Texas today, they canceled all the 285 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,879 afternoon classes so that everybody could show up at this 286 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:02,879 stadium for tonight's game. Big deal for North Texas to 287 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:07,360 be on Friday night television. Both quarterbacks really good here, 288 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:14,039 but there's a difference in age. Obviously. The quarterback for unt, 289 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,679 Drew Mestimaker, is a young quarterback of freshman who's played really, 290 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,480 really well. And on the other side, you've got a 291 00:16:22,519 --> 00:16:25,200 guy that you know, people project maybe to be in 292 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,840 the NFL in Byron Brown. So I think you're going 293 00:16:28,919 --> 00:16:31,279 to get a lot of offense here. Ski The question 294 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,080 just becomes you have to start looking at key numbers. 295 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,200 Sixty seven in the world of totals is pretty dead. 296 00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:41,440 It's sixty six and sixty eight are more key numbers. 297 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,080 So you have to get to sixty eight here. They 298 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:49,360 probably can. I think USF could be a look simply 299 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:52,120 because they played the far better schedule, and if you 300 00:16:52,159 --> 00:16:55,679 want to use strength of opposition as a guideline, you'd 301 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,440 probably look that way. But to me, it'll be an 302 00:16:58,519 --> 00:17:00,960 up and down game here. Hopefully when you get in 303 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,799 the scoring areas, you get scores and you don't get turnovers, 304 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,000 which always hurt. But these teams can score from distance 305 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:09,440 as well, so for me it would be a play 306 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,599 on the over. And I do think there's at least 307 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:14,880 this morning, there were a couple of places where you 308 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,759 could shop at sixty six and a half. I don't 309 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:22,200 know that that's necessary, but if you because sixty seven 310 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,799 is a dead number, but if you can find it, 311 00:17:23,799 --> 00:17:25,000 you obviously want to take it. 312 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. Mark likes North Texas and that one. 313 00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:37,480 Next we have Fresno and Fresno State and Colorado State. 314 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,759 Total did open forty five and a half in this 315 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,839 one and is up as high as forty seven and 316 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,240 a half. Not much movement on the side. I don't 317 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,200 know why, you know, but I just have a filling 318 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,200 you're in line with that total once again going to 319 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:49,839 the over. 320 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: And you know, it's more of a proactive kind of 321 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,559 place Ski, the head coach for Colorado State j Norvel 322 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,359 he used to coach at Neval Arena. He turned over 323 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,519 the play calling duties to his offensive coordinator, Matt Mummy. 324 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,440 For those who don't know, Matt Mummy's the son of 325 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,680 Hal Mummy, who was kind of the inventor of the 326 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,799 air raid. He and Mike Leach kind of perfected the 327 00:18:14,839 --> 00:18:19,319 air raid back at Kentucky. But Matt Mummy's cut from 328 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,480 that cloth and he got his first chance to call 329 00:18:21,559 --> 00:18:26,359 plays last week. It was minimal, but Colorado State did 330 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,880 have their season high yards per play average, They had 331 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,920 their season high points scored, and it was done against 332 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,519 San Diego State, which is a really good defense on 333 00:18:36,599 --> 00:18:40,920 the road. Colorado State played so proactively. I'm thinking to myself, well, 334 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,039 if they could do that against San Diego State, then 335 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,480 coming back home against Fresno State, which is playing well 336 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:49,880 for another first year head coach, Matt Enz from the 337 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,799 FCS ranks, then they could probably get to mid twenties 338 00:18:54,839 --> 00:18:59,119 here against this team. Colorado State also plays zero defense. 339 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,000 They gave up forty five to See Diego State last 340 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,279 week in San Diego hadn't scored forty five in the 341 00:19:05,319 --> 00:19:09,119 last couple of years, so you start putting those pieces together. 342 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,640 It's a little bit of guesswork that Colorado State is 343 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:17,640 on more of an offensive track with this guy calling 344 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,079 the plays. But I think it's worthy of a slight 345 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,400 play here. And you know what, the money has gone 346 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,440 that way, Ski, I think it's gone up either one 347 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,960 and a half or two points. The total has since 348 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,200 the openers, so I'd be on that. I wouldn't let 349 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,799 it go much higher because you certainly can't count on 350 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,400 Colorado State. It's just me trying to be proactive. 351 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:39,559 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to that last one. We have 352 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,960 one more where the total went up. Tonight it opened 353 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,400 fifty nine and a half, and it's up. I'm seeing 354 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,759 sixty one and a half's out there. I mean you 355 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,039 should a line shop. I see it sixty and a half, 356 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:53,359 sixty one, sixty one and a half, So depending on 357 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,640 what you like, as always line shop. And for the side, 358 00:19:57,799 --> 00:20:01,119 it opened ten and a half. For Washington, I'm seeing 359 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,759 it as high as twelve out there right now. That 360 00:20:03,839 --> 00:20:06,440 might be a Stelle twelve. Usually south Point, oh no, 361 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:10,759 south Point numbers are usually different than everywhere else for 362 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:13,039 whatever reason. And I never actually go to South Point 363 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,240 to verify. It's just too out the way from where 364 00:20:16,279 --> 00:20:22,200 I live. But you know, I don't know. It's another 365 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,200 one where they're steaming it up. I know, I got 366 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,920 to pull your arm to bet and over? Is it 367 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,319 Friday night? Over tonight? 368 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: I said it yesterday? Is there really a line for unders? 369 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,039 They have that? Do they have that line at the 370 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:41,160 sports book? And by the way, South Points a little 371 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,759 far for you, but I've seen you out there. I'm 372 00:20:46,759 --> 00:20:49,079 gonna say this. I'm gonna ask you this, okay, because 373 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,079 I know you'll have answers for this. Tell me what 374 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:57,000 you think. What immediately when you hear the teams Iowa 375 00:20:57,559 --> 00:21:02,440 and Minnesota defense and slow scoring, right, not a lot 376 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,039 of offense, all defense, right, Rutgers has played both of 377 00:21:05,079 --> 00:21:05,720 those teams. 378 00:21:06,079 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: I remember Scorers played Iowa. That was a high scoring game. 379 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: Sixty six, Right, they scored twenty eight. And Iowa doesn't 380 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,000 score on anybody. They got thirty eight Rutgers. It's a 381 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:19,799 different tale with this team. All of a sudden, They're 382 00:21:19,839 --> 00:21:21,880 not the defensive team they used to be, you know, 383 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,079 grinded out. They're a high scoring team that gives up 384 00:21:24,079 --> 00:21:26,359 a lot of points. Minnesota ski just to add a 385 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,279 little context to it. They went and played the very 386 00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:31,319 next week in Minnesota. It was thirty one to twenty eight, 387 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,880 a fifty nine point game against Minnesota where they actually 388 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,799 forced Minnesota to have to throw the ball to you know, 389 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,880 keep up. They've also played two Mid American teams. They 390 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,000 played Ohio U Rutgers did. We saw the very beginning 391 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:48,559 of the year. The game was very high scoring against OHIOU, 392 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,880 and then they played Miami of Ohio and that game 393 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,440 got into the sixties. So Rutgers has definitely taken on 394 00:21:54,519 --> 00:21:59,759 a new form all offense. The quarterback here very very good, 395 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,640 and the skill position is really good. Fly all the 396 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,960 way out to Washington, and certainly if you can score 397 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,079 on Iowa and Minnesota, you can score on Washington. And 398 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,160 the problem for Rutgers is gonna be Washington's offense is 399 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,480 fifty times better than anything Iowa and Minnesota puts on 400 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,400 the field. So I fear for how much Rutgers could 401 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:27,359 give up here. This totally sixty I don't know, thirty 402 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,279 four twenty seven wins this game. Washington probably gets a 403 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:34,559 little more thirty eight twenty seven wins this game. But 404 00:22:34,599 --> 00:22:37,319 I would think that this has to be more of 405 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,480 a mid sixties game than a low sixties game, so 406 00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:43,680 to me, you know, we talk about logic school all 407 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,599 the time here on this show. Logic School tells me 408 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,839 this one should get over and the money has gone 409 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,400 that way. Just today this morning, I've seen the Rays 410 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,279 from fifty nine and a half to sixty one. 411 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,279 Speaker 1: All right, pinostays he's gonna sit back, pop up in 412 00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:02,079 the cold, and expect some fireworks tonight in college football. 413 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,279 Get out of that underline, all right, let's uh, Now 414 00:23:08,319 --> 00:23:10,000 I want to get involved. We'll talk a little bit 415 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,519 of professional football NFL Week six, and we do like 416 00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:18,160 to bounce around, so I just uh, I'm just gonna 417 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,440 put that up there for the NFL portion of the show. 418 00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:27,000 There's a lot of games that catch my attention this week, Robie, know, 419 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:28,640 I know, I like to just go through the list. 420 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,519 I guess we'll do it that way again. Number one. 421 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,680 I'll say this because I know it's your team and 422 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,079 we've talked about this already, but Denver versus the Less Stands, 423 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,119 they beat up on them, right, So going in there 424 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,119 to face the Jets, you've seen Denver go from five 425 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,400 and a half up to seven total go from forty 426 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,960 one and a half to forty three and a half. 427 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,799 It's just another Denver team total overspot and they do 428 00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:02,920 play this one in London that you know affects. How 429 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,799 do you feel about it? 430 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, a couple of things were Denver's concerned. You 431 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,960 come off of the high of beating Philadelphia in Philadelphia 432 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,480 down fourteen in the fourth quarter. It's Sean Payton's job 433 00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:19,480 to make sure that the team is back up for 434 00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:23,920 this one. To your point about the Denver offense beating 435 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,680 up on bad defenses, obviously, you know that's my theory 436 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,200 on this team, and I think it's born out by 437 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,680 the statistics. Just go back and look through game logs 438 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,519 and you'll come to the same conclusion. And the Jets. 439 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:40,720 You know, it's funny Ski when I go back to 440 00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:42,759 the beginning of the year, Aaron Glenn gets named head 441 00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:45,200 coach here right for the New York Jets, and I 442 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,599 just remember so many people, Oh, Detroit's going to be 443 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,240 in trouble, lost their offensive coordinator, Ben Johnson's on the Bears. Oh, 444 00:24:53,319 --> 00:24:56,400 Aaron Glenn defensive coordinator. He's on the Jets now. And 445 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,720 my immediate answer to all those people. Whatever show I 446 00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:03,200 was on was I bet a ton of overs, and 447 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,119 I never bet a lion's over thinking. Wait a minute, 448 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,759 I better think about this, because Aaron Glenn runs that defense. 449 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,319 Detroit's defense was never any good under him. It's not 450 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,200 any good under the Jets at the Jets, So Denver 451 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,440 should be able to score points. I mean, if if 452 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,799 Sean Payton has their heads and if they're in the 453 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,839 right mental state, they should be able to score against 454 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,240 this Jet defense everybody else has. I don't see why 455 00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:31,599 not forty three and a half probably a little bit low. 456 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,960 Check the weather in London, England, guys. I haven't checked 457 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,640 it yet, so that's always important. You could find rain 458 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,039 there that could affect this game. Denver team total Ski. 459 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,759 I'm gonna look it up real fast while we're on 460 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,920 this game. It looks like twenty five and a half, 461 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,359 so you're asking for twenty seven. I don't know that 462 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,839 that's out of the realm of possibility. The way they play, 463 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,559 you know, just a really good offense. Bo Nicks is 464 00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,319 a really good quarterback against really bad defenses. 465 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,799 Speaker 1: I kind of, you know, I just have to verify. 466 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,920 But I know you've mentioned you know that way thinking 467 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,119 with Denver to me multiple times, so that did catch 468 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,279 my attention. There Another game that I'm liking is Cleveland 469 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,359 and Pittsburgh. This one opened Steelers minus five and a half, 470 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:21,640 seen five and a half or six to open thirty 471 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,200 seven and a half looks like thirty eight. 472 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,519 Speaker 2: And a half. 473 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: And I mean, I like the Browns side and this one, Ravino, 474 00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:37,599 I'm looking at this like you have the Steelers. They 475 00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:42,480 played and where in Dublin, and then they had a 476 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:48,640 bye week. Right now they play this divisional game versus Browns, 477 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,920 who were they could very easily overlook the Browns and 478 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,319 just look to the next divisional game versus the Bengals. 479 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,880 This spot just doesn't seem right for the Steelers. And 480 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,759 then the same logic that I think, I mean, I 481 00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:02,559 say it all the time in basketball, it can apply 482 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:09,039 really in any sport. But this Pittsburgh defense is not good. 483 00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:12,039 They're bottom five right now, and if you can't get stops, 484 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,759 how can we expect you to win by margin? So 485 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,920 the Browns defense is very good. They're second best defense 486 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,640 in the league right now as it stands. So I 487 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,720 think getting the better defense, you know they're not gonna 488 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,839 look ahead to anything. I think the Browns plus the 489 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,039 six is a side in this one. What do you think? 490 00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: And I think if we just look at matchup ski 491 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,480 fundamentally to enhance what you said about Cleveland's defense being 492 00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:45,000 really good, I think, in particular, Miles Garrett getting after 493 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,880 Aaron Rodgers is a pretty good matchup. If you like Cleveland, 494 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,000 I would Aaron Rodgers generally. I know he's got a 495 00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:55,839 quick release and all, but this Browns pass rush led 496 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,119 by Garrett gets to a lot of quarterbacks, and at 497 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:06,359 this age is pretty much immobile quarterbacks, So that helps Cleveland. 498 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,279 You know, they had that game. They gave up the 499 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:12,119 game winning drive to Minnesota last week overseas. It was 500 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,400 a tough loss because they played really well. It was 501 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,279 Dylan Gabriel's first start and he didn't look horrible now 502 00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:22,599 that he's got some jitters gone. And let's face it, 503 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,359 Minnesota is a far better defense than Pittsburgh. As you 504 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,519 mentioned that Pittsburgh's not a great defense bottom five this season. 505 00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:31,400 Minnesota's got a solid pass rush and you have Brian 506 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,319 Flores trying to confuse a rookie quarterback. That's as tough 507 00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:38,960 as it gets for Dylan Gabriel to step into. So 508 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,240 I like where you're going with this one. It is 509 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,319 a divisional matchup. Cleveland I think has already lost twice 510 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,559 inside the division. Certainly you don't want to fall to 511 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,519 zero to three. And you have real hope in this 512 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:54,960 division still because Baltimore has been so bad, Like most 513 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200 people thought Baltimore would run away with this division. But 514 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,480 you have no Lamar Jackson, you have no Joe Burrow, 515 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,720 and you have the Steelers sitting on top of the 516 00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,160 league or on top of the division right now. So 517 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:07,160 I would think Cleveland plus even if they lose by 518 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,000 a field goal, they lose by four, which are key 519 00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:11,720 numbers you still cover here. The dog is probably the 520 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:14,039 right side. 521 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna keep going down the list. Somebody 522 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,920 in the chat mark says he likes both LA teams 523 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,079 this week, So let's touch those two games. 524 00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: He's not gonna get your seal of approval. SKI. 525 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: Well, first, first up, I see the Rams in Baltimore. 526 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:36,240 That's the first one up. And they opened Rams minus 527 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,279 six and a half and got pushed past the seven 528 00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:42,799 to seven and a half total, open forty four. It 529 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:48,880 looks like forty four and a half the Rams refreshment 530 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,599 memory real quick. But the Rams, they just lost a 531 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,640 couple of games in a row. 532 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: Right, well, the Thursday night or the San Francisco remember 533 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,400 how they You know, San Francisco had nobody and they 534 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,920 wound up beating the Rams until they that extra time 535 00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:03,559 to get ready, but they did. You're right, they lost 536 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:05,359 the divisional game. Kind of embarrassing. 537 00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:14,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that last loss was after after overtime correct 538 00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:15,559 or in overtime? 539 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,759 Speaker 2: Was it? Or was it the Eagles game? 540 00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm getting Let me just double check because I just 541 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,880 want to make sure I'm talking about the right one. 542 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,440 I'm pretty sure. I just want to double check to 543 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:37,160 make sure Rams. Yes, they lost an overtime to the Niners. 544 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,559 So things I don't like for the Rams are that 545 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,640 coming off of an overtime game, could be some fatigue there. 546 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,559 Then they have to travel from LA to Baltimore. I 547 00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,519 don't really love that situation. And you have to win 548 00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:57,240 by more than a touchdown. I just think that's a 549 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:03,200 big ask in the situation. The Ravens have been asked, Rob, 550 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,559 you know, a lot of it has been the defense. 551 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,359 But what will change? I guess what we'll ask in 552 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,559 this one and what I think will change is, I mean, 553 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:17,240 it could be a few things. As far as the defense. 554 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,240 That made a trade for Gilman, they signed Gardner Johnson, 555 00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:25,400 they get Kyle Hamilton back in the secondary, they get 556 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,480 Marlon Humphrey back. That's a big boost, you know, that's 557 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,039 a lot of what you've been needing out there. So 558 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,279 I think that the secondary can play a lot better 559 00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:40,799 than what they've looked like in recent weeks. Baltimore's run 560 00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,200 defense not great, but the Rams, I mean, how good 561 00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:47,920 is the run game for them? Kyraen Williams just keeps 562 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,440 fumbling behind him. They don't really have anybody. They got 563 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:55,839 Quorum right and Hunter. I don't trust to eat any 564 00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:57,599 of them. I don't trust the Rams run game, is 565 00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:00,559 what I'm trying to say here. So I think that 566 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,759 whether they go with Cooper Reschigan or you know, Huntley, right, 567 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,599 Hunley still there, m hm, you could go to Huntley. 568 00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:13,480 Hunley plays more similarly to what they're used to over 569 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,960 there in Baltimore. And Harball has been good, you know, 570 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,480 when Lamar hasn't hasn't been playing, I think when Huntley's 571 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:26,319 been out there. So I do see some some ways 572 00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:28,480 for the Ravens to be successful at least keep this 573 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:31,000 one close. I don't think a lot of people are 574 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,440 saying that the Ravens. How do you say they're saying 575 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,079 that the Ravens. They're saying that Harball has lost the 576 00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:41,359 locker room kind of deal, and you know, Ravens season over, 577 00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:43,599 blah blah blah blah blah. I don't think either one 578 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,240 of those are true. I think the Ravens have played 579 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,759 some tough competition to start this season. I think that 580 00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,400 they've been banged up, and I don't think their season 581 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,359 is dead. Even at one and four. It's not dead. 582 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,200 Even if they lose this game, it's not dead because 583 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,559 they have a very easy schedule coming up. So I 584 00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:03,160 think you're a really good effort from them, especially with 585 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,279 the home crowd behind them. I think the Ravens are 586 00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:06,960 the right side in this game, Robbi, you know what 587 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,319 do you think? 588 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,839 Speaker 2: First off, let me just correct us, because Tyler Huntley 589 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,359 isn't there as a backup anymore, so it is Cooper Rush. 590 00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:19,480 And then to your point about Baltimore's offense and how 591 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,400 they need to play it, you really have to hand 592 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,960 it off to Derek Henry a the Rams are a 593 00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:29,559 lesser rush defense than they are a pass defense, and 594 00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:32,359 the reason why their pass defense is generally good, even 595 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,920 though mac Jones carved it up. Their pass defense is 596 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,440 generally good because of their pass rush Jared Versu and company. 597 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,240 They get after a quarterback and Cooper rush. You just 598 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,720 don't want to be in those types of situations down 599 00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:47,839 in distance where Cooper rush is going to get sacked 600 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,039 in this game. So get it to Henry to the 601 00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:55,480 point of people getting back healthy. Maybe the two d 602 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,319 backs are important. Maybe even more important is getting their 603 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,200 left tackle Ronnie Stanley back for this game. More pass protection, 604 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,000 better run blocking. With Ronnie Stanley in there, it's important. 605 00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:11,599 Offensive linemen are always so overlooked as far as that, 606 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,119 you know, as far as team performance is concerned. So 607 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,119 I could see ways for Baltimore to score points here. 608 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:19,599 It's still a good offense. Still a lot of home 609 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,719 run hitters on that offense, even if it's rush rather 610 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,440 than Lamar. Obviously that's a significant downgrade, but they still 611 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,320 have other guys. Can they stop the Rams? The Rams 612 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,880 are a really good offense too. I would you know, 613 00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:36,159 like you say, what's across is seven. You have to 614 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,480 start really considering the underdog here, a home underdog at 615 00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:41,480 plus seven and a half in the NFL, where games 616 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,719 are decided by one score, that's a big price that 617 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,559 you could take. I mean, if you're going to tease 618 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:49,280 it the other way and you want to tease the 619 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,239 Rams down to one and a half or a half whatever, 620 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,679 however big the teaser you want to play is. I 621 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,760 could see that as well. But I do think points 622 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,519 are going to happen here, Ski, as long as the 623 00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:02,880 weather's good, and that's that's a key for this game too. 624 00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:05,320 The weather here on the East Coast on Sunday is 625 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,199 supposed to be rain filled. If so, if the field 626 00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:12,719 gets muddied up and whatnot. Although Baltimore, yeah, I think 627 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,280 Baltimore is now on a grass field if I'm right, 628 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,000 you know, that could be a problem as well, So 629 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:21,159 check the weather report. If it gets into a ground 630 00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:23,840 game back and forth, Baltimore I think becomes even more 631 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,599 of a live underdog. But my first look here is 632 00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:30,480 toward both of these teams scoring points. The Rams have 633 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:33,920 had extended time off, and like I say, that lost 634 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,000 to San Francisco was embarrassing. The last thing I'll say 635 00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:40,480 real quick here, Ski is in the pecking order of importance. 636 00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:44,400 This is a non conference game. Generally those are the 637 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,519 first ones I look to to play overs on is 638 00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:50,519 non conference games. So we'll see how it goes. But again, 639 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,920 it checked that weather report because mid Atlantic where I am, 640 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,719 we're supposed to get hit with some pretty good rain 641 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,280 on Sunday. 642 00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:00,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I would be care for with the 643 00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:06,280 over just because I mean that last game Houston scored 644 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,559 on every single drive They're the emphasis has to be defense, 645 00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,320 especially getting some guys back on that end for the Ravens. 646 00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:19,199 That's just my thought, my two cents. All right, Uh, 647 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,800 let's see what was he said? The LA games? Right, 648 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:29,119 So Chargers and Miami I don't know this opening. This 649 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,440 opening line screen says minus five and a half is 650 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,880 plus two o eight, So clearly that's not the true opener. 651 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,239 I'll just say it's minus four right now. 652 00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: Total. 653 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: Forty three forty three and a half. Okay, Veno. We've 654 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,719 talked about them in the past two weeks. The Chargers 655 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,000 For anybody who hasn't heard me talk about them, who 656 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:55,280 doesn't know me, the Chargers are my team, and I'm 657 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:02,079 pretty would you say I'm biased Raveno area, Like, are 658 00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:03,400 you a homer for your team? 659 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 2: No? Oh no, No, you'll bet against them as easily 660 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,000 as better on him. 661 00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:16,519 Speaker 1: Lakers maybe not so much, but Chargers, I'll bet against them, 662 00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:21,559 especially his favorites. Yeah. So I saw them versus Giants, 663 00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,000 I said, oh, hell no minus six and a half. 664 00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:27,039 I saw them versus Commanders with no Joe, I said, 665 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:31,000 absolutely not. The defensive line can get after him, et cetera, 666 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:36,880 et cetera. Now they face the Dolphins, and it might 667 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,079 be surprising, Robno, but I think the charters are the 668 00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:43,679 right side in this game. You still don't have Joe 669 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,679 at The offensive line is still struggling, you know, without 670 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,679 him and Slater. You don't even have Hampton anymore. He's 671 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,920 placed on I R. He's done for the season. But 672 00:37:56,519 --> 00:38:00,719 you're facing the Miami team with the targe what three 673 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,519 and two? Now their season is not lost. Joe Alden 674 00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:06,639 is coming back. He didn't even get put on IR like. 675 00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:09,519 He's coming back soon and they can get put right 676 00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:12,320 back on track. Hampton He's gonna take a little bit longer, 677 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,599 but he can come back. The Chargers can still be, 678 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,519 you know, be on track for what they're trying to 679 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:21,280 accomplish this season. For the Dolphins, they're done. This is 680 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,159 the team where people are done buying in. They're done 681 00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:28,400 with Tua. Tua's he don't even care, he says, if 682 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,760 I throw five interceptions or five toestdowns, I still go 683 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,039 home to my kids afterwards. 684 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:32,599 Speaker 2: I don't care. 685 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: Like Tyreek Hill has hurt, They're wonning for what the 686 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,800 season is already done for Miami. Miami's defense is terrible. 687 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,559 They're like bottom five and pressure rate. They're not gonna 688 00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:47,559 be able to take advantage of the weakness for the Chargers, 689 00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:49,760 which is the offensive line. If you can't do that, 690 00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:56,679 Joe Herbert is gonna I mean, Herbert is gonna pick 691 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:02,480 you apart. You know they still got I think Herbert 692 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,960 and the weapons they have on that offense will be 693 00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:09,320 better than what we see from the Dolphins. The Chargers 694 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,199 defensive line can still get after two of offensive line 695 00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:16,039 has been terrible for five years or however long it's 696 00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,519 been he's been over there. So this is the one 697 00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:22,320 game where they cannot take advantage of the Chargers weakness 698 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:24,880 and the Chargers can still run it up on them. 699 00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,599 The Chargers season is not lost. This is where you 700 00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:29,840 get a statement went from them to see their back 701 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,920 on say their back on track. I like the Chargers 702 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,440 minus four? 703 00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:34,119 Speaker 2: What do you think? 704 00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: Ven know? 705 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,199 Speaker 2: And I'm glad you said it because I was on 706 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,559 the show prior to coming on here where they asked 707 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:41,280 me what I like in the NFL this week, and 708 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,119 one of the three I gave him was the Chargers. 709 00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:45,719 I just for a lot of the reasons you just listed, Ski. 710 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,480 Most importantly, they're off of back to back losses and 711 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,440 that doesn't sit well with a head coach like Jim Harbough, 712 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:58,360 who generally can find ways to overcome injury. And I 713 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,719 think this is the perfect kind of elixir the Miami 714 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,599 Dolphins to get right against what Miami has going for 715 00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:12,559 them recently. Is Darren Waller a reincarnation of Darren Waller 716 00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:16,320 at tight end? But boy, their defense didn't stop Carolina 717 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,400 from going up and down the field, and the Chargers, 718 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,760 to their credit, without their two starting tackles last week, 719 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,000 still gained three hundred and thirty six yards against the Commanders, which, 720 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,360 as you pointed out, was a far better defense and 721 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,280 it was a far more motivated team having Jade and 722 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,760 Daniels back. You know, you're not facing Jade and Daniels 723 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,679 this week his dual threat abilities. So fundamentally this matchup 724 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,119 is so different from what the Chargers have seen last 725 00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:46,880 week and actually what they saw at Jackson Dart as well. 726 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,079 Because he can run the football, his legs are problematic 727 00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:54,079 to us or not sit back pressure to watch them 728 00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:57,000 throw picks. I think that LA will try and run 729 00:40:57,039 --> 00:41:02,000 the football here. Certainly Hampton's a bit of a loss, 730 00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:04,360 but Harball, like I say, Harbo's a guy who finds 731 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,119 waste to overcome things. So for me, I think LA defensively, 732 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,760 I think LA offensively, probably better in both spots. And 733 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,239 you really trust Miami here in this game. I don't 734 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,440 care if it's home or not. I just thought Miami 735 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,280 after what we saw last week against Carolina, And you know, 736 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,000 as I think Backski, I get that Carolina did score 737 00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,679 thirty against Atlanta at home two, but it doesn't mean 738 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,119 Miami has to go out there and get absolutely shredded 739 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:35,679 by the Carolina offense. So for me, it would be 740 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,000 the Chargers here. It's not the greatest number of all 741 00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:41,960 when you have to lay four and a half over 742 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,440 the key numbers of three and four, but they still 743 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,000 can probably win this game by six. 744 00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:49,559 Speaker 1: All Right, we're in agreement on that, and I think 745 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:52,360 we did a pretty good job. We've been off for 746 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,239 like forty two minutes. So before we move it over 747 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,880 to best bets, we'll remind everybody about the Weekend Warrior 748 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,480 deal that we have over here a wager Talk. It's 749 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,199 pretty much forty nine dollars to get all football Saturday, 750 00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:11,280 Sunday and Monday night football included. And Vino, he's been 751 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,400 killing it in football. My top players have been undefeated, 752 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,320 and I have more than one top play this week, 753 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,239 so it's a good time to get involved with that, Vino. 754 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,639 I'll pass it to you. Ask if there's anything else 755 00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:26,320 you'd like to promote, and if you have a best 756 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,440 bet for the show, we love to hear it. 757 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just reiterate Weekend Warrior. Guys, Football Weekend, Big 758 00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:36,320 Football Weekend, get three days for forty nine bucks every 759 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,320 play released. Certainly, if you're interested in selection packages, go 760 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,000 ahead and visit wager talk dot com. I'm gonna get 761 00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:45,000 right to best bets here. Ski. We talked about it 762 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,519 in college football Rutgers Washington over the sixty and well 763 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,599 you're looking at sixty ones mostly now. But I'm gonna 764 00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:54,199 narrow it down for you and tell you what I 765 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,400 played client release here I'll give out on the show. 766 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,400 Client release was Rutgers Washington first half over thirty and 767 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,719 a half. Just think it'll take both of these defenses 768 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,840 a little bit of time to adjust to the opposing offenses, 769 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,119 which are probably the best units on the field here. 770 00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:11,840 So getting to thirty one seventeen, fourteen, twenty one, ten. 771 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,920 You know, there's a million ways to get to thirty one, 772 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,400 and it's available to cash your tickets. So for me, 773 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,760 it's Rutgers Washington first half over thirty and a half. 774 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: All right, good stuff probably, you know, for myself, I 775 00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:31,639 will go with I'll go with Baltimore over the touchdown. 776 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,880 I think that the defense stands up this week, and 777 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,559 you know they're gonna play hard. The season is not over. 778 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,559 At the house behind the crowd, I think they keep 779 00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:46,639 it respectable. So Baltimore plus seven and a half will 780 00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:49,960 be my best bet for the show. Vino, appreciate you 781 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000 taking it time to break all these games down with me. 782 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,719 You know, I always enjoy doing the show with you. 783 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,000 Everybody in the chat, we appreciate you as well, good cavers, 784 00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:00,800 good people, and you he make to show what it is. 785 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,599 All of us are just trying to cash. So no 786 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,199 shows on the weekend, we will be back, I believe 787 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,800 on Monday. Ye'll be on Monday Night Football too, So 788 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,760 at the very least, so best of luck over the 789 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,199 weekend you guys, and we will catch you next week.