Speaker 1: Yeah, it's another special Sunday Nights nightcap, well.
Speaker 2: Not quite a night cap. It's a little early for
Speaker 2: most of you.
Speaker 3: For that.
Speaker 1: I'm always ready, Gary Jeff Walker with you just a
Speaker 1: few minutes after seven o'clock on this Sunday evening, the
Speaker 1: July sixth, on the home of the Reds, Bad News.
Speaker 1: Reds louse the series in Philadelphia, a master performance by
Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler, and you guys have broken that down for
Speaker 1: the last couple of hours, So won't dwell on the
Speaker 1: Reds loss. But still they are the only team in
Speaker 1: the major leagues that has not been swept in a
Speaker 1: series all season long. And they are still above five hundred,
Speaker 1: and they are still very very much with an eye
Speaker 1: to the future. And I'm not talking about next year.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this year. Too early to talk about playoffs,
Speaker 1: but there you go. Speaking of playoffs, there was one
Speaker 1: in the John Deere Classic. If you don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: a huge professional golf fan because I'm awful at golf,
Speaker 1: but I'm great at watching it, and so's my wife,
Speaker 1: Chris the two point zero. So I start this evening
Speaker 1: by telling you that I had a wonderful celebration of
Speaker 1: this country's independence this weekend. And then I'll second that
Speaker 1: with the fact that I wasn't in Newport, I wasn't
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, I wasn't in Blue Ash. Location location, location
Speaker 1: not only for celebrations, but also real estate.
Speaker 2: And I say that.
Speaker 1: Because, as you may have noted in the news, the Red, White,
Speaker 1: and Blue Ash end of celebration marred by out of
Speaker 1: controlled teenagers who apparently were raised by wolves with no
Speaker 1: parental supervision, shooting off fireworks claiming that they were gun
Speaker 1: shots and the like. Of course, in Cincinnati in the
Speaker 1: past week, we had a ten year old child shot
Speaker 1: and killed. Because of the continuing violence in this city.
Speaker 1: And a Newport the celebration there on Thursday night, not
Speaker 1: without a blemish, not without a hitch. When I say location, location, location, Thursday,
Speaker 1: I was in Newport working Friday, my wife and I
Speaker 1: because the bar where we work there on Mama Street
Speaker 1: was amazingly closed on a Friday, Fourth of July, so
Speaker 1: we went out to our friend's river camp in Patriot, Indiana.
Speaker 1: Is there any better place to spend the Fourth of
Speaker 1: July than Patriot, Indiana? Come on, and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to one of the celebrants who was there
Speaker 1: in our first half hour tonight, in just a few minutes.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's all about family, It's all about independence.
Speaker 1: They have a golf cart parade along the river every
Speaker 1: Fourth of July and Patriot Indiana. I've actually ridden in it,
Speaker 1: I've driven. I was almost the Grand Marshal one year.
Speaker 1: And I don't have a trailer or a camp there.
Speaker 1: But my friends, the Pasqually brothers and their extended families
Speaker 1: invited us out since we didn't have anything else to do.
Speaker 1: And I cannot think of a better way to spend
Speaker 1: the Fourth of July than under a huge shade tree
Speaker 1: on the side of a hill overlooking the gorgeous Ohio River,
Speaker 1: with a bunch of wonderful people and not a bunch
Speaker 1: of knuckleheads, and of course the red, white and Blue
Speaker 1: ash again. After a throng of some sixty thousand people
Speaker 1: enjoyed a wonderful free concert, I'm told by my friend
Speaker 1: Greg Jones of Billy Gibbons of Zez Top and his band.
Speaker 1: The end not so fun people, I understand from my
Speaker 1: friend Greg Jones who went, some of them broke out weapons,
Speaker 1: kids were shooting fireworks at people, there's some serious problems
Speaker 1: in our society. Obviously, there always have been, but this
Speaker 1: just underscores the crowd and the place you choose to
Speaker 1: be in and I choose whenever I get the opportunity
Speaker 1: to go. It is far away from major cities, whether
Speaker 1: it be Cincinnati or anywhere else in this country, because
Speaker 1: that's where the real people usually are. Today, my friend
Speaker 1: Chris Gohens and I played our continuing Farewell Tour series
Speaker 1: playing some music at Brookie Saloon on Main Street and Ripley, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Again far away from the maddening crowd. But there was
Speaker 1: a crowd there because of course they are gathering at
Speaker 1: Brookies on a daily basis for the rest of the
Speaker 1: week until Wednesday night for the Queen of Hearts drawing
Speaker 1: that will probably be in excess of one point five
Speaker 1: million dollars. When they draw the last four cards, someone
Speaker 1: will win. They had to cut off ticket sales at
Speaker 1: three o'clock because they simply could not handle the crowd
Speaker 1: that was there.
Speaker 2: There was a line out the door.
Speaker 1: The streets of Ripley are clogged with traffic from all
Speaker 1: of the tri State. After local media outlets publicize the
Speaker 1: fact that there was a million dollar draw this past
Speaker 1: week that was not one.
Speaker 2: Somebody is going to win a lot of money next
Speaker 2: Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: If you're there, you get it all minus the irs,
Speaker 1: and there's a cut I guess for the organization that
Speaker 1: runs it. And then if you're not there and you
Speaker 1: have a ticket and it's drawn and you have the
Speaker 1: Queen of Hearts, it will be worth half of what
Speaker 1: that jackpot is minus all those other things I mentioned.
Speaker 1: And we played music and we had a great time.
Speaker 1: Hello to Ron who was at the bar. Hello to
Speaker 1: Pat from Dayton, Hello to Ed Doug and Angie Bohnson,
Speaker 1: Brian McLeod and other people that it was like old
Speaker 1: Home week and it was wonderful.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: Location, location, location, And why can't everywhere, including Cincinnati or
Speaker 1: Newport or Blue Ash be as tranquil and as well
Speaker 1: mannered as places like Ripley, Ohio or Patriot, Indiana. I
Speaker 1: don't have the answer, but I'm just curious. I got
Speaker 1: some sad news to so I'm gonna save that till
Speaker 1: later because someone that is well beloved in northern Kentucky
Speaker 1: passed away today and I've not spoken to the family,
Speaker 1: so I don't know how much I can say but
Speaker 1: I will talk about that before we're done. Up next
Speaker 1: to guy you may have heard with Willie from time
Speaker 1: to time. He is known simply on the radio as
Speaker 1: Brett from Dell High. And again he was at that
Speaker 1: River Camp celebration in Patriot, Indiana on Friday. And we'll
Speaker 1: get his perspective on being a resident of Cincinnati and
Speaker 1: then being able to be privileged enough or lucky enough
Speaker 1: or smart enough to hang out in a place like Patriot.
Speaker 1: We'll do that next on seven hundred WLW. If you
Speaker 1: do business or live in a large met will is
Speaker 1: an area anywhere in the country, chances are you face
Speaker 1: certain obstacles and hurdles that you don't face in the hitherlands,
Speaker 1: in counties that are outside of big city. And as
Speaker 1: I was mentioning in the opening, my time in Switzerland
Speaker 1: County on the fourth of July, the couple of hours
Speaker 1: that my wife and I spent out there with our friends,
Speaker 1: the Pisquallys and their friends was so choice and so
Speaker 1: different than a lot of other people's experiences if they
Speaker 1: were closer to the city. This guy lives in del High,
Speaker 1: but he parties in Patriot just like we did. And
Speaker 1: I had a chance to see him again. We saw
Speaker 1: him a few years ago at a similar celebration for
Speaker 1: Independence Day, and he always has some pretty cogent thoughts
Speaker 1: on what's going on in society and especially in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to bring him on for a few
Speaker 1: minutes just to talk about his experiences in the challenges
Speaker 1: that we all face if we do business in the city.
Speaker 1: Known as only Brett from Dell High for our purposes.
Speaker 1: Here he is on the telephone. Brett, how are you
Speaker 1: doing good?
Speaker 4: Gary, Jeff, how are you.
Speaker 2: It's great to have you on.
Speaker 1: Man. I've talked to you before in the year. I
Speaker 1: know that you've spoken with Willie on several occasions, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate your insight and your acumen on the challenges
Speaker 1: and the problems that you may face if you do business,
Speaker 1: say in Cincinnati, for example, since that is your experience,
Speaker 1: So tell me.
Speaker 2: What you can about.
Speaker 1: Sure why you think that Cincinnati could be a far
Speaker 1: finer place than it is.
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, thanks for having me on. I appreciate
Speaker 3: the opportunity. But yeah, I I you know so. I'm
Speaker 3: a demolition and excavation contractor, very small business, been in
Speaker 3: business for twenty five years as of this year, so
Speaker 3: I've defied the odds despite UH having to deal with
Speaker 3: organizations like the City of Cincinnati government.
Speaker 5: Just recently.
Speaker 3: You know, I had I had employees years ago, and
Speaker 3: I've just taken someone on in the last six months.
Speaker 2: So basically I'm a two man operation.
Speaker 4: So I'm about I'm about as small as you can get,
Speaker 4: no doubt.
Speaker 3: And in the City of Cincinnati has an SBE program,
Speaker 3: which is a small business Enterprise. Now, I was a
Speaker 3: City of Cincinnati registered small business enterprise when I was
Speaker 3: in my twenties, when I was just transitioning out of
Speaker 3: the landscape business and into the demolition and excavation business.
Speaker 3: Right and to qualify as an SPE, I mean, they
Speaker 3: really do a deep dive into you, and you really
Speaker 3: need an office staff to complete it. It took me
Speaker 3: over a month in the winter during my slow season
Speaker 3: to submit everything that the city needed to be an SPE,
Speaker 3: and I did. I was successful in becoming an SPE.
Speaker 3: And what that did was that helped me get into
Speaker 3: city work because, for example, thirty percent of the City
Speaker 3: of Cincinnati's construction contracts have to go to an SPE
Speaker 3: have to go to an SPE. Another percentage has to
Speaker 3: go to an NBA, a minority owned business that could
Speaker 3: be either a female or an African American that renews
Speaker 3: every so many years. And it's not just a simple renewal,
Speaker 3: it's basically a whole other deep dive and you know,
Speaker 3: another eighty hours of you gathering all kinds of information
Speaker 3: and forums and submitting it. So I actually lost my
Speaker 3: SPE because one of the core requirements to be an
Speaker 3: SPE is you can't have a net worth of over
Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So I don't know
Speaker 3: how many married couples because it includes your spouse's networth,
Speaker 3: I don't know how many married couples that have three
Speaker 3: jobs between us that business, my full time my other
Speaker 3: full time job, my wife has a full time job.
Speaker 3: We just simply don't qualify. We have a networth of
Speaker 3: over seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So I despite
Speaker 3: being a two man operation and no longer an SPE.
Speaker 3: But it's funny you'll still see companies doing work for
Speaker 3: the city that do qualify as an SPE. And you
Speaker 3: can drive by a job site and see that that
Speaker 3: company that is somehow an SPE, just on one job
Speaker 3: site has over a million dollars worth of trucks and equipment.
Speaker 1: So it's well, well, it would seem it would seem
Speaker 1: then that they have an overall worth of more than
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars spread, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3: Huh, clearly and easily, And obviously it's it's it's just
Speaker 3: how well can you play the game. I don't have
Speaker 3: the time, the resources, and you know, resources being a lawyer,
Speaker 3: to funagle the system to do that. So that's a
Speaker 3: real disconcerting thing that the problem with that, and this
Speaker 3: is you know, I'm glad you had me on because
Speaker 3: what people don't realize is I recently I come highly
Speaker 3: recommended by arson investigators in the city of Cincinnati, the
Speaker 3: crime scene Unit of the Cincinnati Police Department, and the
Speaker 3: Building Department, because when suspicious fires happen where there may
Speaker 3: be bodies that need to be recovered and it's too
Speaker 3: dangerous to send people in, they'll call me in the
Speaker 3: middle of the night and I've got an hour to
Speaker 3: get there with a thirty five thousand pound excavator and
Speaker 3: a truck and work with FIU and the crime scene
Speaker 3: in the corner and dig through buildings and recover bodies
Speaker 3: and try to preserve the crime scenes as much as
Speaker 3: possible with heavy equipment.
Speaker 5: So I have a very good relationship with.
Speaker 3: Some building inspectors, and the building in spectors called me
Speaker 3: and said, hey, why aren't you bidding on all this
Speaker 3: city work. You know we're tearing down over one hundred
Speaker 3: houses a year. I said, because I'm not an spe
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, what's that got.
Speaker 4: To do with anything?
Speaker 3: I said, all of your demo contracts have to be
Speaker 3: an sbe They're like, oh, I think we can get
Speaker 3: around that because there's not that many people bidding on them.
Speaker 5: Just put some bids in on them.
Speaker 4: So I go out.
Speaker 3: I waste a lot of time traveling all across the city,
Speaker 3: look at about fifteen properties, put in these bids.
Speaker 4: Lo and behold.
Speaker 3: You can watch through the procurement process on online where
Speaker 3: the bids come in at and I'm low bitter on
Speaker 3: several of them. I get a note back from purchasing
Speaker 3: even though I'm the low bidder, even though I'm a
Speaker 3: two man operation, I can't have these contracts. They're going
Speaker 3: to go to a higher bidder. The taxpayers are are
Speaker 3: going to pay a higher amount to raise these buildings
Speaker 3: and refurbish these properties just because of this simple red tape.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know this is this is not uncommon
Speaker 1: again in these I think one of the great things.
Speaker 1: And I haven't picked apart every piece of the so
Speaker 1: called big beautiful bill which I see bad things and
Speaker 1: good things in it that just passed that President Trump
Speaker 1: signed on Friday, But one of the key components is deregulation,
Speaker 1: and we need to look at that in a broader
Speaker 1: sense all across the country if we want good people
Speaker 1: to be doing good work without all of these with
Speaker 1: all of these obstacles placed in front of people. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I would think that the fire Investigative Unit
Speaker 1: and the work you've done with the Cincinnati Police and
Speaker 1: everything else would alone kind of flag your business as
Speaker 1: a must for the city of Cincinnati. But because of
Speaker 1: all the nitpicking and as you mentioned, and you very
Speaker 1: eloquently describe the obstacles you're facing as a small business
Speaker 1: owner have to face. We not only need to be
Speaker 1: taxed less, we all need to be regulated less by
Speaker 1: absolutely by these bureaucracies that these bureaucracies that stand in
Speaker 1: the way of real progress. These some of these people
Speaker 1: call themselves progressives and all they are are regressive in
Speaker 1: almost every sense of the word.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean, I work with a lot of realtors who
Speaker 3: will bring me a person and say, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: we're looking at this building on Eastern Avenue. We want
Speaker 3: to we want to tear this building down and we
Speaker 3: want to build this facility for our business. And I'll
Speaker 3: look at it and I'll and i'll, you know, give
Speaker 3: them the pricing and everything. And I always, I always
Speaker 3: look them in the eye and I say, you know,
Speaker 3: if you will just move another mile and a half
Speaker 3: east into Anderson Township, you're gonna save months on your construction,
Speaker 3: which is gonna save you thousands on your construction loan.
Speaker 3: And you're gonna save so much stress with not having
Speaker 3: to deal with Cincinnati City of Cincinnati building inspections versus
Speaker 3: dealing with Hamilton County, which they're not perfect, but they
Speaker 3: are way better than Cincinnati. And just for a simple example,
Speaker 3: when I pull a demo permit a wrecking permit in
Speaker 3: the City of Cincinnati, say for a fifteen hundred square
Speaker 3: foot wood frame single family house, that permit in the
Speaker 3: City of Cincinnati is gonna cost me about three hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty nine dollars and then it'll take at least
Speaker 3: six weeks to get it, and all it is is
Speaker 3: a piece of paper. They don't come out, They don't
Speaker 3: have to schedule anyone to come out and watch me
Speaker 3: wreck this house. They don't they come out at the
Speaker 3: end to make sure that I put seed and straw
Speaker 3: down and that the lot will not hold wat.
Speaker 1: It is a pure bureaucratic money, Brett, and we know it.
Speaker 1: You know it, and listen. I'm sorry, I wish we
Speaker 1: had more time, but I'm running up against the news.
Speaker 1: But man, I am so glad you were on tonight
Speaker 1: to talk about this because I know you're not the
Speaker 1: only person dealing with it, obviously. And all I can
Speaker 1: say in closing, Brett is when you look at the
Speaker 1: red tape and the bureaucracy and just the literal inequality
Speaker 1: in their practices. Yeah, look no further than Karen Bass
Speaker 1: in the city of Los Angeles, with people wanting to
Speaker 1: rebuild their homes in the wake of the Palisades fires,
Speaker 1: for example.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting.
Speaker 1: You know, the President promised to help and Karen Bass
Speaker 1: and the government there in Los Angeles is standing in
Speaker 1: the way of progress. The progressives are standing in the
Speaker 1: way of progress once again, Brett, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for your time and it was great to see you
Speaker 1: on on Friday. You all right up next, one of
Speaker 1: my all time favorites, the fur Ball, joins us on
Speaker 1: a special Sunday Night Almost Nightcap on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: He was mentioning the gang in Ripley today at Brookies
Speaker 1: Queen of Hearts ticket sales and May and Chris Going's
Speaker 1: farewell concert until the next one. A shout out to
Speaker 1: my friend Scott Snyder, who suffered a horrific life changing
Speaker 1: snowmobile accident back during snowmobile season. And for the first
Speaker 1: time that I've seen Scott in months today look great,
Speaker 1: no crutches, no leg brace, no wheelchair. And he was
Speaker 1: there too, and it was a blessing. Praise God to
Speaker 1: see him and praise God for this guy even though
Speaker 1: he's Jewish, but I mean Jewish people believe in God.
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to talk to him as
Speaker 1: often as I like to because, of course the Reds
Speaker 1: take over my usual nightcaps life that's on Monday and
Speaker 1: Tuesday night. I will have her be on unless they
Speaker 1: change the schedule. On me and greatly upset me on
Speaker 1: July fourteenth and fifteenth during the All Star break. And
Speaker 1: by the way, congrats to La Da La Cruz back
Speaker 1: on the All Star team for the National League for
Speaker 1: the second year in a row. I'm talking, of course,
Speaker 1: about the Maven. He is like the king of Cincinnati
Speaker 1: sports talk radio for his many years of service here
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW, and these days he is on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports thirteen sixty. You can hear him on Sunday
Speaker 1: mornings from six to nine, and you can hear him
Speaker 1: right now, the fur Ball himself, Andy Furman. Good evening
Speaker 1: for a ball.
Speaker 5: Good evening. It's great on a Sunday, easny to wrap
Speaker 5: up a holiday weekend. And I got to ask you
Speaker 5: a question. First of all, hope you had a great
Speaker 5: Fourth of July weekend. I gotta believe. Also, I'm not
Speaker 5: that smart, but I think July bought this passed. And
Speaker 5: there's those shooting fireworks in my neighborhood. Why does it stop?
Speaker 5: One of those guys? No, look, look, I'm not a
Speaker 5: gruffy old guy, and stop that.
Speaker 1: Really tell me, Andy, when when you have a Fourth
Speaker 1: of July that falls on a Friday, that makes it
Speaker 1: a fourth of July weekend, and and the weekend is
Speaker 1: not over yet. As long as they're not shooting fireworks
Speaker 1: at you. Are they shooting fireworks at you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: No, the guy I bought it my windows up, they not.
Speaker 5: I can't even look windows up for fourth series. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: I did. I got to run this by you, all right,
Speaker 5: because you you were the man of intelligence.
Speaker 4: I mean, you will give me the answer, right, I'll try.
Speaker 5: This thing on the fourth of July. Is not the fireworks.
Speaker 5: I mean, fireworks are great. I love fireworks, But it's
Speaker 5: the Nathan's famous hot dog gaining context. Oh my god, Champions,
Speaker 5: Joey George Testna, he was the guy the Fendi Champions.
Speaker 5: He won it. He consumed like seventy and a half
Speaker 5: hot dogs in ten minutes. His rector was seventy six
Speaker 5: back of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4: Here's the question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, what you're saying, hold on, but before before
Speaker 1: where you get to your question about Joey Chestnut. His
Speaker 1: record is seventy six, So he's lost a few miles
Speaker 1: off of his fastball, hasn't he.
Speaker 5: Well, he was wrong. I mean, I think it's the
Speaker 5: most disgusting event in the world because I watched them
Speaker 5: ready to stick my singer down my throat, puke. They're
Speaker 5: shoving hot those down they would water and buns. But
Speaker 5: I just want to see why they do it, who's
Speaker 5: doing it, and whatever it may be. But the question
Speaker 5: I have for you and you'll have the answer, is
Speaker 5: hot talk eating a sport? No, it's on the pull
Speaker 5: letter network? Is it considered a sport?
Speaker 1: Well, understand that the four letters in ESPN Entertainment and
Speaker 1: Sports Programming Network, and some people consider that entertainment. So no, no,
Speaker 1: no it is. It is not a sport. It is, well,
Speaker 1: I say, a disgusting spectacle.
Speaker 4: Right, it's an event.
Speaker 5: But you know, a sport to me has to have
Speaker 5: competition versus perhaps time and requires training, which he does.
Speaker 1: Well, Okay, all of those components go into hot dog eating.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, But the big question is this is Joey
Speaker 5: Chest and would.
Speaker 4: You consider him an athlete? Is he an athlete? And
Speaker 4: I looked that up too.
Speaker 5: An athlete is a person who is proficient in sports
Speaker 5: and other forms of physical exercises, right, also participating in
Speaker 5: organized competitions. All right, They typically possess physical strength, speed, agility,
Speaker 5: and stamina and maybe professional or amateur. So again, I
Speaker 5: would have to say Joey Chestnut would be considered an athlete.
Speaker 1: Right, So you're saying that hot dog eating competitions are
Speaker 1: in fact sports number one and are in fact, by
Speaker 1: definition that people who participate in them are athletes.
Speaker 2: That's what you're telling me.
Speaker 5: And I tell you why I brought this up. I'm
Speaker 5: leading up to something, of course, Hope, because he's dominated
Speaker 5: this event. He's one of seventeen times.
Speaker 1: He's the goat of cram and hot dogs and down
Speaker 1: your going ing.
Speaker 4: Here's the deal.
Speaker 5: If in fact he's the goat, I think they should
Speaker 5: build a statue with him in front of Nathan's Famous
Speaker 5: hot Dogs and Coney Allen because they build statues for
Speaker 5: everybody else. Lebron James is going to get his statue
Speaker 5: when he retires the Big Old Oscar Robertson as a statue.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan has a statue which he deserves in front
Speaker 1: of the United Center in Chicago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Joey Chess is dominated hot dog eating. They have
Speaker 5: a statue for him in Coney Island, Brooklyn, New York,
Speaker 5: in front of Nathan's Famous on surf Avenue.
Speaker 1: There there is no question that Joey Chestnut is the
Speaker 1: king wiener eater of all time. There's no one, there's
Speaker 1: no one who surpasses his ability to slide things down
Speaker 1: his throat like that.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy you agree with me, now, so now.
Speaker 1: But it's not a sport, and he's not an athlete, Andy,
Speaker 1: he's a freak.
Speaker 2: You know what they they people people come, Andy.
Speaker 1: People used to go to carnivals and circuses to watch
Speaker 1: people they called geeks bite the head off chickens, and
Speaker 1: so that was entertaining and people paid to see it.
Speaker 1: But was it a sport? Were they athletes?
Speaker 4: You're right?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean were they.
Speaker 1: Was there a was there a chicken head biting competition
Speaker 1: where like one geek would try to best the other by.
Speaker 5: Eighteen the other day to slip the dial? And a
Speaker 5: pillow tossing event pillow pillow fighting? I think it was
Speaker 5: called all right, So that's on this.
Speaker 1: Were they were? They were they hot? Were their hot
Speaker 1: babes pillow fighting?
Speaker 5: No guys, what guy, no, no, no, hold on?
Speaker 2: Hold on.
Speaker 1: June is over, Pride month is over. You can't have
Speaker 1: guys pillow fighting because the next thing. You know you're
Speaker 1: going to have pillow biting competitions.
Speaker 5: Probably will, But I'm glad you brought the female aspect
Speaker 5: of things because I want to run this by Okay,
Speaker 5: I had a very big discussion with my buddy Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 5: We did a show on Sunday mornings.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Fox Sports.
Speaker 5: Radio or vocally on thirteen sixty or serious.
Speaker 1: I already I need I need to do it again.
Speaker 5: I need, I really need that my own ego.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing.
Speaker 5: Okay, you see people, specifically guys walking around with jerseys
Speaker 5: with players' names on the back, and eventually you go
Speaker 5: to a Bengals game, you see some women with a
Speaker 5: borrow jersey whatever, Jamar Chase jersey. How big I said,
Speaker 5: it's the buckie. This is double standing. You will not
Speaker 5: catch me as much. I enjoy the w n b A,
Speaker 5: and they have a complete isch right now. I mean,
Speaker 5: there's nothing else going on.
Speaker 4: It's old w n b A.
Speaker 5: There's no other sport's really going on right now. You know, baseball,
Speaker 5: but the w n b A has But.
Speaker 1: Baseball Baseball is incredibly more popular than the w n
Speaker 1: b A.
Speaker 2: Even with Caitlin popularity.
Speaker 5: I'm not talking. I'm talking about because I enjoy watching it.
Speaker 5: I would never be caught dead in the w n
Speaker 5: B a jersey with a player's name on the backus.
Speaker 5: I think that's a little creepy. You know, guy fifty
Speaker 5: plus of age, we're in a girl's name on the back.
Speaker 5: But as sooner as a double stated when it could
Speaker 5: do it, men can't do it.
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you as a man of
Speaker 1: a certain age, I'm not going to be wearing. As
Speaker 1: much as I love Caitlin Clark and love to watch
Speaker 1: her and thinks she has been just the best thing
Speaker 1: to ever happen to women's sports. No, not just because
Speaker 1: I'm in Iowa, from Iowa, It's because I appreciate excellence,
Speaker 1: and she has achieved some excellence and some notoriety in
Speaker 1: her first two seasons in the w NBA that are
Speaker 1: unsurpassed in that league's history. And she has brought that
Speaker 1: league to national recognition. She's got them off of commercial
Speaker 1: air flights and to private charters. The salary is going
Speaker 1: up for women's basketball players. I mean, once they start
Speaker 1: hitting layups, there's no talent, how much money they'll earn.
Speaker 5: You know what, Kaylen Clock's salary is with the Indiana Fever.
Speaker 1: It's not enough for what she's done for the league.
Speaker 1: It's not enough from what she's done in the league.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, she's making millions with endorsements. Are sure she's
Speaker 5: making as a salary from the Indiana Fever, she makes
Speaker 5: seventy eight thousand.
Speaker 1: And you know why she's making millions from endorsements because
Speaker 1: there are fifty year old men walking around with Caitlyn
Speaker 1: Clark jerseys on.
Speaker 4: Their backs, right.
Speaker 1: And it's absolutely ridiculous. No, no, so ridiculous.
Speaker 5: What Her teammate, Sophie Cunningham was the only one that
Speaker 5: came out of the woodwork to defend her when Caitlyn
Speaker 5: was pushed around by the girl and the Connecticut Sun.
Speaker 4: You know, thug.
Speaker 1: That girl's a thug. I don't even I don't know
Speaker 1: her name, but I don't want to mention her name
Speaker 1: because she's a thug and she has no business having
Speaker 1: any kind of recognition at all.
Speaker 2: She's just another game.
Speaker 5: The question where was her teammate Alayah Boston standing up
Speaker 5: in sanhangas defender?
Speaker 4: Where was Kelsey Mitchell?
Speaker 5: Kelsey Mitchell paid high school basketball person in high school
Speaker 5: she's a teammate of her in Indiana. None of them
Speaker 5: stepped up except for Sophie Cunningham, a first year player,
Speaker 5: and here's the deal his but Sophie got some heat
Speaker 5: the other day. They asked Sophie about the potential, you know,
Speaker 5: expansion in the WNBA. They were expanding the Detroit, Cleveland
Speaker 5: and Philadelphia and Detroit and Cleveland had franchises back in
Speaker 5: the day. And she said, I wish the NBA, the
Speaker 5: WNBA would expand to like a more exciting place, like,
Speaker 5: you know, Miami or Nashville.
Speaker 4: And I agree.
Speaker 5: Oh man, did she get heat? Did the Chamber of
Speaker 5: Commerce from Detroit put something on X saying, you know what,
Speaker 5: let me tell you something. She's one thousand percent correct.
Speaker 4: Those cities are hell holes.
Speaker 5: The hellholes they really are.
Speaker 4: Move over to Miami.
Speaker 5: And if I'm a player, I'd rather go to Miami.
Speaker 5: You know, if you had the opportunity to move to Detroit,
Speaker 5: would you go? And I said this earlier today on radio.
Speaker 5: The only two good things, well three things came out
Speaker 5: of Detroit. They were really good, you know what they
Speaker 5: were the Temptations, the four Tops and Stevie Wonder. That's
Speaker 5: the only thing that ever came out here.
Speaker 1: Baby, you betcha. I'm all over Motown, Andy. I love
Speaker 1: it me too.
Speaker 5: That's it, And I don't have to go to the
Speaker 5: try to enjoy it. I can listen to the radio.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean there are people I know who would
Speaker 1: differ with your opinion of Detroit.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The areas outside of Detroit are really really nice. No, ye,
Speaker 1: get to places like that. No, no, no way, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to Detroit for any reason. In Nashville, Nashville
Speaker 1: is my old hometown. I would love to see Nashville
Speaker 1: get more juice than they're already getting right now. It
Speaker 1: is one of the hottest series in the country.
Speaker 5: So yeah, But here's the deal, buddy, my buddy, Bucky Brooks,
Speaker 5: in part of set a very smart thing. He says,
Speaker 5: if you go to Miami or Nashville, there's too many distractions,
Speaker 5: too many things going on, and they might not be
Speaker 5: able to draw a crowd. Admitting Detroit, there's nothing else
Speaker 5: going on on Cleveland, So basically, they'll go watch the
Speaker 5: w NBA. They'll have people going to the game.
Speaker 4: Twenty years ago, didn't I counted that.
Speaker 1: Andy, twenty years ago? Did you ever think that Nashville
Speaker 1: be drawing sixteen to eighteen thousand people on home games
Speaker 1: for professional hockey.
Speaker 4: No, they do.
Speaker 5: I never thought hockey would be successful under the Mason
Speaker 5: Dixon line. You know, it's a northern sport. I never
Speaker 5: thought there would be even Miami, you know, not.
Speaker 2: Enough, not enough Canadians there.
Speaker 4: Well, you could be right about that.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Well, they go down there in the
Speaker 5: winter time, you know, the snowbirds, they go down in
Speaker 5: the winter time.
Speaker 1: No people from Ohio and Michigan go down there in
Speaker 1: the winter time.
Speaker 4: The Canadians from New York.
Speaker 1: Well, no, no Canadians. Canadians come here because this is
Speaker 1: like a sauna compared to what they're dealing with.
Speaker 4: You might be right about that. You might be right
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a question for you, and it relates
Speaker 1: to something that just happened to me, and it's happened
Speaker 1: numerous times over the years. On the off chance I
Speaker 1: go into a fast food restaurant, and I don't go
Speaker 1: into fast food restaurants very often because I like to
Speaker 1: eat actual, good, healthy food. And I went into this
Speaker 1: restaurant just to get a little something to tide me
Speaker 1: over until I get home. We're having We're having ribs
Speaker 1: tonight when I get home. So anyway, I stop in
Speaker 1: just to get a couple of sliders at ARV's and
Speaker 1: I go inside because there's about five cars in the
Speaker 1: drive through, and I didn't have a whole lot of
Speaker 1: time before I had to be here.
Speaker 2: In the studio.
Speaker 1: So I'm behind this woman and she's she's a seasoned
Speaker 1: citizen like you and I are. She's up there, but
Speaker 1: she's sitting there talking and she's the only one in
Speaker 1: line except for me behind her, going looking at the clock, going,
Speaker 1: you know, I need to get up to the studio.
Speaker 1: I need to get up to the studio. I know
Speaker 1: exactly what I want. She doesn't know what she wants.
Speaker 1: She's arguing with the clerk or the guy at the
Speaker 1: cash register about the price of small fries, small curly fries,
Speaker 1: and then she wound up walking away with her phone
Speaker 1: after taking up five minutes of my valuable time that
Speaker 1: I didn't have to waste. When you go to a restaurant,
Speaker 1: when you go to a fast food restaurant, especially a
Speaker 1: fast food restaurant, you go to that restaurant specifically because
Speaker 1: you know what you want, whether it's in the drive
Speaker 1: through or you're at the counter, you should know what No, look, look,
Speaker 1: look McDonald's, Wendy's, Arby's. You made that choice to go there,
Speaker 1: so you should know exactly what you want to order.
Speaker 1: And I understand maybe she's on a fixed income and
Speaker 1: couldn't ford the seven dollars it was going to cost her,
Speaker 1: But I work for Iheartmedia' I'm not on a fixed income.
Speaker 1: I'm on a broken income. My income hasn't been fixed yet.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, doesn't it drive you nuts
Speaker 1: to go to especially whether you're waiting in line, somebody
Speaker 1: pulls up to the window with the drive through and
Speaker 1: they're sitting there and you can hear the person you're
Speaker 1: behind them, you can hear the person who's inside to
Speaker 1: take their order, ask them what they'd like, and they go,
Speaker 1: I don't know, let me think about it. It's not
Speaker 1: like they got to take orders from everybody in the
Speaker 1: car because they're all by themselves. And they still can't
Speaker 1: figure out when they pulled up to a McDonald's or
Speaker 1: a Wendy's, when they'd made that decision to go there,
Speaker 1: what the heck they wanted to order from there? And
Speaker 1: they're wasting your time, They're wasting their time. It's like
Speaker 1: make if you make a decision that you're going to Arby's,
Speaker 1: you should know that you want a beef and cheddar.
Speaker 1: You should know that they have a lot of choices.
Speaker 1: I understand. You should know at a McDonald's that you
Speaker 1: want a big mac. You shouldn't be like lollygagging around
Speaker 1: and wasting everybody else's time because you can't decide what
Speaker 1: you want between the happy meal and French fries. For
Speaker 1: goodness sake.
Speaker 5: You're a thousand percent correctly. And this and this story,
Speaker 5: I have to lean towards the sign of the young
Speaker 5: lady because I.
Speaker 2: Actual lady, what happened tonight?
Speaker 5: Okay, you talk about ribs.
Speaker 4: I was going to move for ribs.
Speaker 5: And one of the favorite takeout places that I go
Speaker 5: to is called Walk and Roll in Independence, Kentucky. I
Speaker 5: go down there, pick it up, bring it home, all right,
Speaker 5: And I usually keep their menu in one of my
Speaker 5: drawers in the house.
Speaker 4: And of the destroy whatever, I went.
Speaker 5: To the destroyer today, I pulled it out. I called
Speaker 5: it in right, and like I drove over the Walk
Speaker 5: and Roll and the lady says, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: And they know me there?
Speaker 5: I said, well, I said, we wanted to see seven.
Speaker 5: We don't have a c seven of the men. I
Speaker 5: called a different Chinese restaurant.
Speaker 4: I called the wrong one.
Speaker 5: Really, so I went to Walk and Roll.
Speaker 4: They were great.
Speaker 5: They took my order right there. I waited, and then
Speaker 5: I looked at myself phone. I saw the num that
Speaker 5: I had called it to because I said to the
Speaker 5: women that will Walk and Roll, I said, I called you,
Speaker 5: and I said, but the number doesn't look the same that's.
Speaker 4: On your menu.
Speaker 5: And I saw, my goodness, I called the wrong Chinese restaurant.
Speaker 4: So I called the other one.
Speaker 5: Your orders ready, I said, I'll be there in ten minutes.
Speaker 5: So I had to get two dinners.
Speaker 2: Andy.
Speaker 1: This woman knew exactly no, well, she knew exactly where
Speaker 1: she was. She was at Arby's. There's a big sign
Speaker 1: and a hat out front, they sir.
Speaker 5: I think is excusable. Anybody could do that, right.
Speaker 2: You made a mistake.
Speaker 1: If you made a mistake that a lot of seniors make, Andy,
Speaker 1: And maybe there's wait a.
Speaker 5: Minute, anybody could make that mistake.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe you know your wife, Wendy should think
Speaker 1: about taking away your keys, here we go.
Speaker 5: She Actually the bottom line is so I got both
Speaker 5: orders and go over to her own house.
Speaker 1: Andy, thanks for your time tonight. Interesting discussion as always,
Speaker 1: and I hope there are many many more to come
Speaker 1: before they put you in a l I'll be listening.
Speaker 5: What happened to the attorney that does this show? Well,
Speaker 5: you threw him out?
Speaker 4: Was what the deal?
Speaker 5: He took his job though.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen Junior took a night off, I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I like him too, but I'd rather have me do
Speaker 1: it because I'm making some money. Get off my phone.
Speaker 1: Steve Gorham from the Climate Science Coalition coming up after
Speaker 1: News at eight in Mike Allen Junior's usual slot on
Speaker 1: a Sunday night, it's Gary Jeff Walker in a special
Speaker 1: Sunday night cap. Just to tap past eight on this
Speaker 1: Sunday evening, July sixth, Independence Day weekend continues. And I
Speaker 1: was just thinking during the break for some reason, no
Speaker 1: reason apparently, that that's the last thing I need is
Speaker 1: a podcast about Chapi Cittic Chapiquittic co ed killing Kennedy's
Speaker 1: I think we all know what happened, like almost sixty
Speaker 1: years ago. Anyway, I digress. Our next guest has been
Speaker 1: a frequent guest of mine, and I have him on
Speaker 1: because he's good. He also happens to be the executive
Speaker 1: director of the Climate Science Coalition of America, author of
Speaker 1: four books on energy, climate chain, sustainable development, and public policy,
Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand copies in print. His latest book
Speaker 1: green Breakdown, Becoming Renewable Energy Failure, and he is the
Speaker 1: one and only Steve Gorham. Steve, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 6: How are you hi, Gary, Jeff doing great? Hope you
Speaker 6: had a great Fourth of July weekend.
Speaker 2: I hope you did too.
Speaker 1: I had just a remarkable Fourth of July weekend because
Speaker 1: I stayed away from big cities for the most part
Speaker 1: and got out in the country, out in the real
Speaker 1: country where the real Americans live. Yes, the eastern half
Speaker 1: of the United States has seen a big heat wave
Speaker 1: in the last month or so, and to which for
Speaker 1: many people claiming that this is because of human greenhouse
Speaker 1: gas emissions. What's your answer to that, Steve Gorham?
Speaker 2: What do we know? Yeah, we had a lot of headlines.
Speaker 6: We had the estimated one hundred and sixty million people
Speaker 6: in the Midwest, the South, and the east Coast experienced
Speaker 6: temperatures that approached one hundred degrees fahrenheit, So it's pretty hot.
Speaker 6: And you know, whenever we get the first heat waited
Speaker 6: the summer, we have all these groups talking about.
Speaker 4: Man made global warming always.
Speaker 6: CNN said, quote heat waves are getting more dangerous with
Speaker 6: climate change. NPR said this was due to a quote
Speaker 6: burning of coal, oil and gas, and Time stated that
Speaker 6: heat waves now occurred three times as often in the
Speaker 6: United States as they did in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2: What's the truth, Yeah, the.
Speaker 6: Historical records don't really support that alarm. I like to
Speaker 6: point people to a National Shounic and Atmospheric Administration NOAH
Speaker 6: website called State Extremes, and they have the high temperature
Speaker 6: record and the low temperature record for each state, the rainfall,
Speaker 6: other things. And when you look at these for the
Speaker 6: state high temperature records, you find lo and behold that
Speaker 6: three quarters I'm sorry, thirty six seventy percent, thirty six
Speaker 6: out of fifty states had their high temperature records set
Speaker 6: nineteen seventy five or before fifty years ago or older.
Speaker 6: And Ohio is a particular case. The record there is
Speaker 6: nineteen thirty four. As I've mentioned, on your show in
Speaker 6: the past, I think that was one hundred and thirteen
Speaker 6: fahrenheits in Gallipolis, July twenty first, nineteen thirty four. You
Speaker 6: look at the surrounding states. Pennsylvania state record was set
Speaker 6: in nineteen thirty six, West Virginia nineteen thirty six, Kentucky
Speaker 6: nineteen thirty, Indiana nineteen thirty six, and Michigan nineteen thirty six.
Speaker 6: And indeed, the decade of the thirties has the most
Speaker 6: state high temperature records twenty three.
Speaker 5: Out of fifty, almost half.
Speaker 6: But you know, when they write these articles, nobody ever
Speaker 6: looks back and looks at the data.
Speaker 1: No, Well, the United Nations has said that we are
Speaker 1: in an era of global boiling.
Speaker 4: We did.
Speaker 1: Our world temperature is really rising the way we're led
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 6: Well, they've been rising, they've been rising gently. Estimates are
Speaker 6: that about the one point two degrees celsius since eighteen eighty,
Speaker 6: one hundred and forty years ago, or about two degrees
Speaker 6: fahrenheit over one hundred and forty years.
Speaker 1: So we're we're not quite to two twelve fahrenheit or
Speaker 1: one hundred degrees celsius, are we No, we're.
Speaker 4: Not by the way.
Speaker 6: Eighteen eighty is significant because that was really when we
Speaker 6: hear the first thermometers going to effect. But prior to
Speaker 6: eighteen eighty, they used things called temperature proxies, things like
Speaker 6: tree rings and oxygen isotopes and ice cores, that sort
Speaker 6: of thing, and they can go and these proxies move
Speaker 6: like temperature, and you know, they're chemical changes that move
Speaker 6: like temperature. And if you look at that data, you
Speaker 6: can see that we've had many times in the last
Speaker 6: ten thousand years, we've had multi century long periods that
Speaker 6: were warmer than today. And I like to show in
Speaker 6: my first book, Climatist to my show a picture of
Speaker 6: a white spruce stump up in the Northwest Territory of
Speaker 6: Canada that was provided by doctor Tim Ball. And this
Speaker 6: stump is sitting by itself and they radio carbondated. It's
Speaker 6: almost five thousand years old, and today it's one hundred
Speaker 6: kilometers north of the of any other white spruce stump
Speaker 6: north of the tree line. And that's an indication that
Speaker 6: back four or five thousand years ago, it was naturally.
Speaker 2: Warmer than today.
Speaker 1: Noah, you mentioned it earlier. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Speaker 1: Administration predicting an above average hurricane season which just began.
Speaker 1: Are hurricanes? Are hurricanes? In fact, Steve Gorham getting stronger
Speaker 1: and more frequent. We hear that all well or not.
Speaker 6: And by the way, you know that the Noah predicts
Speaker 6: an above average every year.
Speaker 2: They always do that.
Speaker 6: But if you look at their data right out of
Speaker 6: the Noah site and you plot the hurricanes that have
Speaker 6: come ashore the hurricane landfalls by decade, you find that
Speaker 6: the number of hurricanes has actually been slightly declining. Now
Speaker 6: we used to get about fifteen to twenty per decade
Speaker 6: in the nineteen hundreds, and now they're running somewhat less.
Speaker 6: The line has been trending down, so the hurricanes we
Speaker 6: have coming ashore has actually fallen over the last one
Speaker 6: hundred and twenty years. There's also data. A signis by
Speaker 6: name of Ryan Maui, a meteorologist. I use a satellite
Speaker 6: data to track the number of these.
Speaker 4: Are now worldwide.
Speaker 6: Cyclones, and he finds that the number of tropical storms
Speaker 6: has not been increasing. They've been looking since about nineteen
Speaker 6: seventy these satellites. The number hurricane caynes is about the same.
Speaker 6: It goes up and down, but hasn't really changed. Same
Speaker 6: thing with major hurricanes, so the data really doesn't show
Speaker 6: that we're getting either more storms or they're getting stronger.
Speaker 1: Friday, President Trump signed the One Big Beautiful Bill. Does
Speaker 1: the passage and I know there was a lot of
Speaker 1: debate about this with contracts and construction that had already begun.
Speaker 1: Does it mean the end of renewable energy in the
Speaker 1: United States in your opinion.
Speaker 6: Well, it's going to take a big chunk out of it.
Speaker 6: You know, we've been subsidizing wins since about nineteen ninety
Speaker 6: two with production tax credits, investment tax credits, outright grants,
Speaker 6: and also loans, and then under the Biden administration, the
Speaker 6: amount of subsidies went up by about a factor of
Speaker 6: five with the Inflation Reduction Act all the way up
Speaker 6: to one hundred billion dollars a year in subsidies for
Speaker 6: renewables and stretching out over ten years, that's more than
Speaker 6: a trillion dollars. But now the Big Beautiful Bill is
Speaker 6: cutting all of those. You have to start a project
Speaker 6: and generate electricity. I think it's by twenty twenty eight
Speaker 6: or you lose your subsidies. And then they've also cut
Speaker 6: the the seventy five dollars federal tax credit for electric
Speaker 6: vehicles that's going to end by the end of September.
Speaker 6: And that's going to be a big issue for evs
Speaker 6: as well. So what Trump in the Congress has done
Speaker 6: is really going to hamper renewable growth in the US.
Speaker 6: It's going to have to fight away all the renewable
Speaker 6: folks say that wind and solar is the cheapest form
Speaker 6: of electricity, but then one sentence later they say, yeah,
Speaker 6: but you can't cut all these subsidies for it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and it's cheaper for them because and from
Speaker 1: the people who are buying the evs and the like,
Speaker 1: because the rest of the tax base is paying for
Speaker 1: it under a false narrative that fossil fuels are killing
Speaker 1: the planet.
Speaker 2: What do you think will be the impact? And you know,
Speaker 2: this is the thing Steve.
Speaker 1: Wonder of wonders, when Elon Musk read the one big,
Speaker 1: beautiful bill and saw this happening, that he was suddenly
Speaker 1: adversely against it. You know that he was in favor of,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever cutting and there are some large trillion
Speaker 1: dollar cuts in this bill, and he was ahead of Doge.
Speaker 1: But when he found out this seventy five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: EV subsidy was going to be eliminated. You think that
Speaker 1: may have turned Elon Musk against the president and against
Speaker 1: those who were who were voting for this.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that was it or not. There's
Speaker 6: gonna be some big impacts with Tesla, no doubt. You know,
Speaker 6: he's been a great guy. He's probably been one of
Speaker 6: the greatest innovators in history with SpaceX and all the
Speaker 6: other things. Yeah, but this is going to hit Tesla
Speaker 6: pretty hard. Not only this seventy five hundred dollars which
Speaker 6: will make Edie's more expensive. But the other thing that
Speaker 6: happened in June was that President Trump signed an executive
Speaker 6: order blocking California's resolution for one hundred percent EV sales
Speaker 6: by twenty thirty five. And by the way, eleven states
Speaker 6: have copied that. And they have been operating on a
Speaker 6: waiver from the EPA for many years which allows them
Speaker 6: to do pollution laws. But that waiver is now being revoked.
Speaker 5: So the way this hits Tesla is.
Speaker 6: What you had to do in California before is you
Speaker 6: had to sell a certain percentage of electric vehicles or
Speaker 6: you had to buy these credits from other ed manufacturers,
Speaker 6: and Tesla got over a billion dollars a year in
Speaker 6: credits that they sold other companies and that may go
Speaker 6: away now as well. So it's not only the seventy
Speaker 6: five hundred dollars but also all these credits. Governor Newsom
Speaker 6: is now suing the federal government to try and get
Speaker 6: this back. But I think it's going to be kind
Speaker 6: of a tough road, so a tough thing for or Tesla,
Speaker 6: And you know, we're gonna have to get back to
Speaker 6: eb's that competing and whoever wants when that's great, but
Speaker 6: we're with this idea that we're going to force everybody
Speaker 6: that that's going away.
Speaker 1: Finally, Steve Gorum, isn't it true that in times of
Speaker 1: global cooling more people have suffered and died than in
Speaker 1: times of global so called global warming.
Speaker 2: Isn't that a fact?
Speaker 4: Well, I think that's true.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had a little ice age and we had
Speaker 6: a matter of fact, we had the Thames River fro solid.
Speaker 6: It hasn't done that more than one hundred years. And
Speaker 6: cold weather is worse for people. Our flu seasons are
Speaker 6: doing it during the cold months from October to March
Speaker 6: in the northern hemisphere and during the cold months in
Speaker 6: the southern hemisphere made to August, more people get sick
Speaker 6: in the winter. Almost every country shows that COVID more
Speaker 6: COVID cases in the winter than the summer. And then
Speaker 6: we have many papers that tell us that more people
Speaker 6: die during cold months and warm month, so we get
Speaker 6: a little bit warmer. Actually it's actually better for people.
Speaker 6: So you're right, that's another idea that the whole fear
Speaker 6: of warming is just misplaced.
Speaker 1: The book is Green Breakdown, The Coming Green Breakdown, and
Speaker 1: it's still available. Steve Gorham is the author, also the
Speaker 1: executive director of the Climate Science of Coalition and our guest,
Speaker 1: and such a pleasure to have you as all with Steve.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your time tonight.
Speaker 6: Thank you Gary, Jeff.
Speaker 1: You bet you eight nineteen and a quick PostScript of
Speaker 1: some sad news I received today and I'd like to
Speaker 1: talk about that with you, and in just a moment.
Speaker 1: I believe in eternal life, not in this world, in
Speaker 1: this life, but I do believe in eternal life. We
Speaker 1: all think at a certain point, many of the times
Speaker 1: when we're younger, that we are going to actually live forever.
Speaker 1: The reality of our mortality, though, becomes more and more
Speaker 1: apparent the longer we do live and time, gravity and
Speaker 1: friction come calling, and you may be going through a
Speaker 1: loss of a loved one or someone else that was
Speaker 1: close to you that has passed recently. It happens all
Speaker 1: the time. But today, in the middle of what was
Speaker 1: a pretty good day, a reality that I knew was
Speaker 1: knocking on the door finally made its way to my
Speaker 1: phone when I found out that a deer man named
Speaker 1: Charlie Kemplin passed. Charlie was a titan of business in
Speaker 1: Fort Thomas for the majority of a life.
Speaker 2: He owned.
Speaker 1: At one time it was Pasqually's Pizza in Fort Times,
Speaker 1: which is the location of where Fort Thomas Peat is
Speaker 1: now well. He also owned and operated a marathon carry
Speaker 1: out in Fort Thomas for decades and a restaurant bar
Speaker 1: in the same neighborhood. And he had tanning beds, and
Speaker 1: everybody in northern Kentucky who's been around Northern Kentucky for
Speaker 1: the last fifty years probably has a Charlie Kemplin story.
Speaker 1: Charlie had been ill recently. The last time I got
Speaker 1: to see him at the bar where I work was
Speaker 1: before June tenth. That was the last time I saw it,
Speaker 1: and I had the feeling as Charlie walked out that
Speaker 1: day that the last smile, the last hug I had
Speaker 1: with Charlie was going to be the last one I
Speaker 1: would I would have with him in this life.
Speaker 2: And I found out that he passed today.
Speaker 1: And the legacy of Charlie Kemplin is left in his
Speaker 1: three wonderful children, whom I've all had the privilege to me,
Speaker 1: and all the friends that he has left here who
Speaker 1: are waiting to see him again in the next life.
Speaker 1: But John and Lisa and Terry and Lisa's spouse Andy,
Speaker 1: and Terry's spouse Bob. I think John's married too. They
Speaker 1: are going to be left to pick up the pieces,
Speaker 1: as we all are when someone that we love passes on.
Speaker 1: And I just cannot say enough about the impact that
Speaker 1: Charlie Kemplin had on everyone who met him over the years.
Speaker 1: Such a great guy, such a and you say nice
Speaker 1: things about somebody when they passed because you don't want
Speaker 1: to speak ill of the dead. There's I don't think
Speaker 1: that there's anybody around Northern Kentucky who I knew Charlie
Speaker 1: Kemplin who have anything bad to say about him. The
Speaker 1: guy was a true ace in every respect, and when
Speaker 1: he lost his wife, I think going on eight nine
Speaker 1: years ago, oftentimes that was all he would talk about.
Speaker 1: He would talk about wanting to be with Marianne again,
Speaker 1: and I pray that he is with his beloved Marianne
Speaker 1: again tonight. But I just wanted to take a few
Speaker 1: moments here at the end of the program. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to start with this because it's kind of a downer,
Speaker 1: but I also wanted to add that if you were
Speaker 1: going through a personal loss right now, if you have
Speaker 1: suffered and are suffering through the grief of someone that
Speaker 1: has left us in this realm, in this life, I
Speaker 1: just want you to know the number one not only
Speaker 1: are you not alone, because we all go through it,
Speaker 1: but we're here for you, and don't be afraid to
Speaker 1: share that grief, and don't be afraid to embrace the
Speaker 1: joy that those people brought to you while they were here.
Speaker 1: And tonight I am embracing the joy that came in
Speaker 1: with Charlie Camplon every time as a customer of mine,
Speaker 1: as someone who became a friend, and he was a
Speaker 1: friend to so many and so many people truly loved Charlie.
Speaker 1: So I again, if you're going through this, try and
Speaker 1: remember every little bit of joy that that person brought
Speaker 1: to your life, and know that because they were in
Speaker 1: your life, you carry a piece of their personality, of
Speaker 1: their spirit, of their wisdom with you every day. And
Speaker 1: if you talk to God like I do, if you pray,
Speaker 1: people might think you're weird for talking to someone that
Speaker 1: they can't see. Believe me, the peace that comes through prayer,
Speaker 1: in my communications with God, my personal relationship, they're more
Speaker 1: real than a lot of conversations I have with people
Speaker 1: who are standing right in front of me. And I'm
Speaker 1: so glad that Charlie Kemplin was one of those people
Speaker 1: who stood right in front of me and it was
Speaker 1: real and it was good, and yeah, we'll miss him.
Speaker 1: I heart Cincinnati. Coming up next after the news as
Speaker 1: eight thirty.
Speaker 2: Have a good night,