WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:10.000 Weird things happened in. 2 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:25.399 The Weird Weird Weird. 3 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:32.439 Hello and welcome everybody. We have a very fabulous guests 4 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:41.600 with us tonight. Let me present this wonderful individual, m 5 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:46.880 my cat Odin, and joined on our left, we also 6 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:49.240 have my wife Jenny. 7 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:55.679 I just I feel like really undercut there. 8 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:56.960 How can you follow Odin? 9 00:00:57.359 --> 00:00:59.840 I know, I'm like, I feel really late now because 10 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:01.560 is a beautiful cat. 11 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:03.200 He did have a grand interest in it. 12 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:05.760 I do love him. Look at that little thing. 13 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:08.799 He's being shy for some reason. It's okay, they're not 14 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:12.079 gonna ye has well clue what was happening he doesn't 15 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:15.799 know where recording and capturing him forever. And then, of course, 16 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:21.799 as always, we are joined by Alex. Hello, thank you 17 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:24.680 for the introduction. Everybody knows who these people are. But 18 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:26.879 for whatever reason, I'm feeling the spirit of change in 19 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:28.680 the air, and I wanted to reintroduce some of our 20 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:29.840 old familiar crew. 21 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:31.480 Ann Ryan's here too. 22 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:37.000 Yes, yours truly the same familiar crew that you guys 23 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:39.879 saw last week and already know who they are, so 24 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:40.799 we want to. 25 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:44.480 And I was in the room during the last episode. 26 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:46.519 I just wasn't we didn't show you on it. 27 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:50.120 You No, you didn't. I was just here smiling. 28 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:53.920 Yeah, that is true. I thought we showed you on 29 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:57.400 the episode. We just talked about you. Well, it's been 30 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.599 a while since this event actually happened, about four weeks, 31 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:05.719 but because of the nature of my travel schedule, with 32 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:10.280 Alex's travel schedule going to Europe, with Jenny's family coming 33 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:12.400 from Europe and staying with us for a while, if 34 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:15.039 you guys saw it was a couple full disclosures back 35 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:16.719 at this point of airing, it'll probably be like three 36 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:19.159 or four full disclosures back. We had one of Jenny's 37 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:21.199 German cousins on with us, which was super fun. He 38 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.240 got to tell some stories about skywatching. Because of all 39 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:28.759 that crazy scheduling, it's been like not until tonight that 40 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:30.879 we've had the time to sit down and talk about 41 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:32.639 side games. Plus we had a guest book. There's just 42 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:35.919 a number of reasons, but I thought it was very 43 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:38.759 important to talk about. There were some profound things that happened. 44 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:43.439 It was an amazing event. Alex couldn't be there, unfortunately, 45 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.120 But I don't know. I mean, where should we begin. 46 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:49.919 Well, I feel like we should begin just by giving 47 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:54.400 a nice little shout out to Hakim Isler. Yeah, he 48 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.560 put on this event. We talked about it during his episode, 49 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:01.759 and I think it was just very sweet to see 50 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:04.240 him out there do his thing. The first time I'd 51 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:07.800 ever met Hakim was at a birthday party at Chris 52 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.800 Junior's house, and I met him as a friend of 53 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:14.759 the family, not knowing that he had all of this 54 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:19.599 insane background and knew all of the who's who and 55 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:22.639 all of that fun stuff, which we'll get into later. 56 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:24.840 But it was just really nice to see him do 57 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:26.919 his thing, and I was thinking to myself, it's like 58 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:32.240 if somebody's planning a literal like three day wedding and more. 59 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:34.599 Is what he accomplished. And he did a lot of 60 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:37.280 it with a great team, but a lot of it 61 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:40.840 came directly from him, and I think it was just 62 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:45.319 a very cool thing to watch. And I will also 63 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:47.560 say too that I think that we've known about the 64 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:51.439 side games for over a year now because he was 65 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:55.879 in Ryan's Creator Gateway at the Monroe Institute where he 66 00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:00.240 kind of introduced this idea to everyone and said, Hey, 67 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.680 all of my fellow Munroe Institute creators, would you like 68 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:07.280 to be part of this and be a commentator within 69 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:10.879 the event, to which I think all of them said yes, 70 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:12.879 if they have the availability. 71 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:14.280 Yeah. 72 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:18.199 And so Ryan was also a commentator at this event 73 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.639 and was part of the event, which was very special 74 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:24.480 for me to sort of watch him shine and do 75 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:26.920 his thing and do what he does best, which is 76 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.680 talk about the things that he loves. And so that 77 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:31.399 was a really neat perspective. 78 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:35.600 I keep finding this trend where I'm really nervous about 79 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.759 like certain things like public speaking engagements and stuff like that, 80 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:41.120 and I beat myself up in my head over and 81 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.000 over and over about every which way that it's going 82 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:44.560 to go wrong, and then when it comes time to 83 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.759 get to it, I just like nail it. And that 84 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.000 was one of those things where I was so nervous 85 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:51.720 to get up on a stage and a live audience 86 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:53.759 in front of like four or five hundred people at 87 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.240 a time and uh just kind of like riff it 88 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:59.879 with no script and talk about some things that I 89 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:03.600 really didn't know that much about, and it was really fun. 90 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:05.839 It's not about that, but I had a few people 91 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:07.279 come up to me and be like, I really enjoyed 92 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:09.000 your commentary. I really liked what you had to say, 93 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:11.000 and I was like, oh, thank you, and it made 94 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:12.920 me think like, yeah, that was actually really fun. So 95 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:16.480 I appreciated that opportunity. Like you said, Haquen put together 96 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.279 an amazing event, and you brought up the Monroe Stitute. 97 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:23.600 I just realized this is synchronistic timing and it's the 98 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:28.720 perfect time to mention that I am officially a Monrose 99 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:29.279 tut trainer. 100 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:39.360 Yay. The crowd goes wild. 101 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:40.759 Yeah, I'm going wild, Alex. 102 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:44.079 Alex has instead a peep. He doesn't care I'm going wild. 103 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:50.319 I went, I went into my subconscious mind wild. Yeah, 104 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.040 he did as a guinea pig. 105 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:53.560 Alex and Jenny were guinea pig. 106 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:57.199 I'm a huge part of Ryan getting his certificate. 107 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:01.199 Yeah, thank you, Alex. You've played a huge part in that. 108 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.160 It's true he gave up his birthday weekend to be 109 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:06.399 in my retreat and that means something. 110 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.759 Yeah, he's somewhere in his mid twenties. I never remember, 111 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:11.399 but he. 112 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:12.839 He talking about me. 113 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:16.600 Yeah, he spent one part of his mid twenties getting 114 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:21.439 started in his own brain, exploring his consciousness. Yeah. 115 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:24.279 So your birthday was Thursday, and then we started the 116 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:26.680 retreat Saturday. So that was really cool and I think 117 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:30.240 I had pitched that to you guys in like April, yeah, 118 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:34.240 or maybe May when I got the timing on, when 119 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:35.839 I was like authorized to do it, and then I 120 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:38.319 was like, oh, I know it's your birthday weekend. You're like, 121 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:40.120 I don't care, and you committed all the way back. 122 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:41.800 So that was really cool and I appreciate that well. 123 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.040 I thought it was a great way to uh ring 124 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:45.160 in the Saturn return. 125 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:46.079 Yeah. 126 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.360 Yeah, I think I was just twenty seven people. 127 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:50.720 Yeah, that's for That was a hint for Jenny to 128 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:51.199 figure out. 129 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:52.040 Thank you. 130 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:54.399 That was a big year for me. I can't imagine 131 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.120 what's coming for you. 132 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:58.959 I have an idea I kind of do just a 133 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:02.800 few months, I think we'll all I got married at 134 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:03.360 twenty seven. 135 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:08.199 That's a beautiful, beautiful thing. Yeah, but I do think 136 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:11.680 it would be helpful for the listeners to know Ryan 137 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:13.920 was talking about his commentary and they're like, what was 138 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:14.759 he comment. 139 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:15.639 Oh, yeah, good point. 140 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:17.120 And I do think it would be good to kind 141 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:18.959 of talk through a little bit of like the structure 142 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:20.439 of what this was and why it was such a 143 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:24.519 monumental event, because not only was it a conference where 144 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:27.759 you know, experts from a little bit of everywhere came 145 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:31.000 to speak, like Tom Campbell, Yeah, which he's part of 146 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.439 the Monroe Institute. He was, he was, he was, Okay, 147 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:38.560 he was. He was the speaker. There some past guests 148 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.480 on our show, you know Amy Westmoreland, who is a 149 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:44.360 manifesting coach. We had Chris Ramsey was there to talk 150 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.279 about kind of the different kinds of magic that there 151 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.040 are and how that kind of plays in with the mind. 152 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:54.120 And there were several speakers. But the coolest part of 153 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:58.120 the entire event, which was Saturday, was it was a 154 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.600 full day of I think think six different. 155 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:03.160 Kinds of five different games. 156 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:07.600 Five different kinds of games that tested a variety of 157 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:12.639 people's psychic abilities. And these were people that maybe just 158 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:14.759 kind of learned that they were psychic. There was some 159 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:17.120 people that were there testing their skills and they're like, no, 160 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:19.360 I mean I literally just picked this up and I'm 161 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:21.560 just trying. And then there were some people that are 162 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:24.959 kind of iconic in this space and had had experience 163 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:28.160 and they were all competing together on you know, kind 164 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.360 of a level set playing field, and it was really 165 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:34.759 interesting to see because nothing like this has ever been 166 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:39.279 done before, right I believe, And so there was a 167 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.960 set of judges for each game, which had a level 168 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:45.679 of experts. I mean, Ryan, you would know the names 169 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:46.440 better than I do. 170 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:47.799 I didn't know names. 171 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:51.720 Paul Smith was one of them, Alan Steinfeld was one 172 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:52.279 of them. 173 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:55.639 Obviously, Tom Campbell, Diane. 174 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:59.559 Yes, Diane Hennessy Powell from the Telepathy tapes. 175 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:01.759 Alan Evan the CEO of them, and Rosa two, and 176 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:03.480 there was there was a few I just didn't. 177 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:05.639 Know, right, So there were a lot of different judges. 178 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:08.200 Some others I did know, yeah, exactly. 179 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.120 So on one hand, you'd have the judge where, you know, 180 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:17.159 after they would perform the specific game, which Hakeem came 181 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:20.159 up with all in his own brain, which is phenomenal. 182 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.279 I don't know how he did it, they would judge. 183 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:25.679 But in the middle of that there would be commentating. 184 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:29.320 So it's like you're literally watching like an intense I 185 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:32.759 don't know soccer, I don't know sports. Just imagine a 186 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:36.120 sports commentator. And Ryan was one of those. So while 187 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:41.240 these people were performing these psychic, you know, psychic games, 188 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:44.279 there were commentators also just kind of giving a little 189 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.200 bit of information about what they were doing and that 190 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:48.399 sort of thing. And that was Ryan's role, and it 191 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:49.279 was really entertaining. 192 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.799 Yeah, it was really cool. So with five different games 193 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.879 in mind, they rotated the commentator, so I got to 194 00:09:55.919 --> 00:10:01.440 participate in dowsing and in mindsight, which is I'm really 195 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:07.720 fascinated in mindsight and I'm getting there. Actually I was 196 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:14.799 about to get there, so let's get there. So mind 197 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:18.639 Sight it's something that admittedly I don't know that much about, 198 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.399 at least beforehand. I just knew it was real because 199 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:25.039 I saw a demonstration by Dahlia, who I'm going to 200 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:29.159 talk more about later. That's that deserves its own spot. 201 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:33.879 But yeah, I saw a demonstration by her in California 202 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:36.279 back at the Contact in the Desert conference, and she 203 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:38.200 just kind of came up to our table, had a 204 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:40.440 blindfold on and just started like reading debit cards and 205 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.840 reading name tags and reading labels and stuff like that, 206 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:45.279 triple blindfolded, and we were all like, whoa, we were 207 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:50.120 blown away. One of her daughters is on the Telepathy Tapes, 208 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:56.120 which is the documentary that's upcoming, so she kind of 209 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:58.519 already had a connection to this world. And my take 210 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.639 on this is she because of her daughter, she was 211 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:04.159 blown away and like decided to dive into it on 212 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:07.919 her own and then her abilities just exploded because she's 213 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:12.039 definitely next level. It's insane what she can do. And 214 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:15.440 then I got into dowsing as a commentator, which is 215 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.600 something that I practiced very regularly and like pretty often. 216 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.519 I guess those are the same thing regularly and pretty often, 217 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.879 but it's the idea that you're tapping into your internal 218 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:29.879 guidance to find answers about something in the future or 219 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:33.519 in the present. You're like, you know, and I'm sorry, 220 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:38.919 I'm short of breath. I was just doing burpies today. 221 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:40.759 I feel like I'm gasped for airing. 222 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:43.600 I think maybe is more so that we just finished 223 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.360 a really heavy meal from. 224 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.000 I think it's definitely the burpies, you really. 225 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:50.679 Think, so when did you? When was your last burpie? 226 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:56.159 Throughout the day? Just doing you No, I just feel 227 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.720 like I'm like, Okay, I'm gasping for air more than usual. 228 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:04.919 But anyway, back to what I was saying, So, yeah, 229 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:07.720 it's like dowsing is really cool because you can do 230 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:09.639 it with pendulums, you can do it with your hands 231 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:12.840 through sensing energy, you can do it through dowsing rods. 232 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:17.480 Shout out Meghan, Shout out Megan. Yes, Megan solar Glow. 233 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:20.600 Although she was not there, she is a lovely human 234 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:23.360 being who was on our show and we got to 235 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:25.960 hang out with her at the Wisconsin conference. Yes, the 236 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:29.120 Contact Modalities Conference. Shout out to mel Actually that's that's 237 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:31.159 interesting too, because even though this isn't going to be 238 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.039 focused on that, I wanted to make a slight mention 239 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:38.120 of this. My dad was just with her last week 240 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:40.799 at a conference. Not a conference, it's more like a 241 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:45.399 retreat and somewhere in Wisconsin at this resort that she owns, 242 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:47.440 with a group of like thirty five people, and they 243 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:49.639 had some of the most mind blowing sky watches of 244 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:53.519 our entire career of doing this. So like at every 245 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.120 point there would be fifteen to eighteen orbits in the 246 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:56.799 sky at. 247 00:12:56.679 --> 00:12:59.879 A time, different speeds, different direction. 248 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:07.399 Yeah, every night they saw like three hundred orbs every night. 249 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:10.200 I'm gonna send you a video real quick, if you 250 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.159 don't mind, Alex I would, I'm gonna just text it 251 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:15.639 to you real quick as the four second one. Maybe 252 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:19.039 you could drop this in there just it doesn't I 253 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:24.000 don't even care when it is right here? How's that perfect? Yep? Right? 254 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:26.799 I hope I sent that to the right people. Yes, 255 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.519 I did. I send it to Alex So maybe you 256 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:31.200 could just kind of drop that little four second in there. 257 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:32.799 You can cut the sound whatever, but like that's just 258 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:36.200 the taste of what people were experiencing every night in Wisconsin, 259 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:40.279 and it was insane. There's a huge shift happening. And 260 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:44.120 I really want to get into the sky watch at 261 00:13:44.120 --> 00:13:46.879 the Side Games later because it was utterly insane. 262 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:49.039 So and I think the fact that there is an 263 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:51.360 event like the Side Games, and this was brought up 264 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:54.799 several times throughout the event as well, is the fact 265 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:57.679 that this event is even happening goes to show that 266 00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:00.559 there is a major shift that's happening right in some 267 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:02.919 sort of way. The fact that like this is becoming 268 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:06.039 I mean it's not mainstream, mainstream, but that there's an 269 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:10.000 event dedicated to something like this, I feel like that's 270 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:14.120 something that you know, fifty years ago, nobody was well, 271 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:16.799 I mean the seventies were pretty popin I've heard, but 272 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.679 you know, like twenty years ago, people weren't thinking about 273 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.840 these things. And now suddenly people are thinking about these 274 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:27.120 things and are very interested in them. 275 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:32.039 So people gather all the time, could do like spiritual stuff, 276 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:35.240 or psychic stuff. You have all these kookie UFO groups. 277 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:39.080 You have this stuff pretty regularly. I think what makes 278 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:42.919 the side game so different is it's credible. It's based 279 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.840 on things that are proven and actually work, because Hakim 280 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:51.080 has a very good sense of cutting through the bs 281 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:53.960 and getting to like real stuff. I think that the 282 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.799 vast majority of people that I interacted with their like 283 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:01.840 professionally that were there, not just people showing up, but 284 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.080 the people that were a part of the event, the 285 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.320 vast majority of them. And I say that only because 286 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:12.799 I didn't meet everybody. They were so credible. They were 287 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:18.480 not weird, not like oohoo, you know what I mean. 288 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:21.240 They were they were like pretty, hey, this is what 289 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:23.799 I got, and and you know it's like it sound 290 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:26.080 and you know, you had the vibravision guys, they were 291 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:30.240 very cool. You had you had mindsight, you had the 292 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:33.879 Monroe Institute, you had a bunch of individual competitors. I 293 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:36.759 noticed that some of the competitors were Chiegong practitioners and 294 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.039 they were doing techniques like that for the Telecones system, 295 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.360 for the dowsing and things like that. So it's like 296 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.240 you had a lot of people that are into things 297 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:48.039 that work. It wasn't like you know some conferences you 298 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.559 go to where people are walking around in sparkly lizard 299 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:55.440 outfits saying that they're a glam tillion. It was and 300 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:57.279 that was a fun conference. I'm not knocking the conference. 301 00:15:57.320 --> 00:15:59.759 I'm just saying people. I'm just saying the people that 302 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.320 picked we're very cool people. I think that he has 303 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:07.200 a sense of this person's cool, this person's cool. He's 304 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.559 like collecting all these really cool, credible people and bring 305 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:10.080 them together. 306 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:12.879 And I want to say too, like, for example, I 307 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:15.000 just want people to know what it was because it's 308 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.919 so unheard of. So for example, for the dowsing session, 309 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.159 there were people that are more comfortable with dowsing with 310 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:25.320 a pendulum and people that were more comfortable with dowsing 311 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:28.360 with their hands. And I believe that was the session 312 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:35.159 where they were dowsing for a particular material underneath a block. Yeah, 313 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.720 underneath a wooden block. So for example, there would be 314 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.240 I think what five or six competitors at a time, 315 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:46.559 something like that, and Hakeem would say, okay, you player 316 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.440 a there was a name. I want you to dows 317 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:54.360 for the gold you. I want you to dowse for 318 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:57.600 the copper, and what they would do is go up 319 00:16:57.639 --> 00:16:59.799 to it, do whatever they need to do to kind 320 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:04.720 of feel for this object, and they would do whatever 321 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:07.240 they believed or whatever they were drawn to as copper 322 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.160 or gold or silver or whatever the material was. And 323 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:12.640 sure there were some that were successful and some that 324 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.359 were not, which is what made this game. And then 325 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:19.359 for Mindsight, for example, the competition was again having six 326 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:23.400 or so people sitting at a table, blindfolded, and they 327 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:28.480 would have this sort of block arrangement where they would 328 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:34.759 have to put these colorful rings all within thee. Yeah, 329 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:37.759 all within the same color. So they'd have to stack 330 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.039 the oranges with the oranges, stack the reds with the red, 331 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:47.880 stacked with this, and again different levels of success. 332 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:50.599 But that added to the credibility too. 333 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:52.680 It was so cool and it was so cool to 334 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:54.680 see what their methods were too, because there were some 335 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:57.359 people that kind of us like touch. There were some 336 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:00.000 people that you could tell were interpreting things very differently, 337 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.480 and it was just really cool to kind of see 338 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:05.519 what they were doing. And then of course Dollia, which 339 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:07.480 I didn't know if you wanted to jump into it yet, 340 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:11.519 yeah we can, but you you know, Ryan was commentating 341 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:13.960 for Mindsight, of course, which is what we were talking about. 342 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.519 And she did the peg board thing and blew the 343 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.480 entire audience out of the water because she was one 344 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:28.599 hundred percent correct. Where she stacked six different colors with 345 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:33.559 the correct pegs. It was like six purples and then 346 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.000 think of that, six different colors all on top of 347 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:39.640 each other, and it was perfect and flawless, and she 348 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:43.039 did it so quickly and with her blindfold on. It 349 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:44.799 was so funny. She got done and she just like 350 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.400 kind of crossed her fingers and the whole entire crowd 351 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:49.920 was going wild and you could tell that this girl 352 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:51.000 knew she nailed it. 353 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:54.799 Yeah, ruined screaming. It was nuts. People, you know, like 354 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:57.039 me and the other commentators, we were like taking pictures 355 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:00.839 and filming. It was insane. But before we go more, 356 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:03.519 because I want to talk more about her later, let's 357 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.319 walk it back. So there were five games, and that's 358 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:09.279 the other reason I was saying earlier that I think 359 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:10.880 like part of the reason the event was so good 360 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:13.680 was because he was picking cool people. And then the 361 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:16.440 other reason I think it was so good was because 362 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:21.839 it's the first time that anyone really came together with 363 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.480 the purpose of like just assuming that this stuff is 364 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:29.920 all real. Nobody's really trying to like convince anyone of anything. 365 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:33.599 It's just like a competition. I kind of like that element. 366 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:36.720 And somebody could say competition loses the true spirit of it, 367 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:40.240 but not really. Because Hakeem is a martial arts instructor, 368 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:46.519 he's ex military. I think for his mind this was 369 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:50.680 fleshed out very well because he's very organized, he's very professional, 370 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:54.880 he's very you know, he comes from a line of 371 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:59.319 work that's very I don't know the right word, like 372 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:05.240 active marshal sort of because like you know, it's like 373 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:09.440 combat is sort of a competition inherently, you know, And he. 374 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:12.519 Was on like Survivor and all of these reality to. 375 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:14.720 Be true true competition TV shows. 376 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:17.880 Yeah, yeah, I think I think competition kind of drives 377 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:22.559 that that will to be better, yeah, because without that competition, 378 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:24.440 But it also kind of strikes me, and granted I 379 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:26.920 wasn't there, it seems to me that this is one 380 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.480 of those things though, where, uh, you're more competing with 381 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:34.559 yourself and it's less about person versus person and more 382 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:36.839 about like I want to do better than I did yesterday. 383 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:39.920 With sports like golf or swimming where you're you know, 384 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:44.599 just scratching a scorecard or fighting a clock, you know 385 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:46.559 what I mean, and correct me if I'm wrong. But 386 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:49.279 it kind of seems like so it's not like a Oh, 387 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:51.240 I'm going to beat the crap out of the other person. 388 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:53.079 It's like, Oh, I'm going to do the best I 389 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:53.880 absolutely can. 390 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:54.680 Yeah. 391 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:55.599 I think that's right. 392 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:58.079 Yeah. And the idea of the competition was and and 393 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:00.359 he said this to me not only privately but also 394 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:05.519 over and over publicly, was that, when you think of 395 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:11.799 the record for the mile, that I love this story 396 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:13.519 every time, and I don't know the story, so why 397 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:14.759 don't you go ahead and tell the story. 398 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:19.000 Well, it's been a while since I said it, but essentially, 399 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.599 at some point, what is it? The seven minute mile 400 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:25.599 was impossible, yeah, and then someone did it, yep. And 401 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:28.599