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<v Speaker 1>Multiple people in my family, clean my father, are veterans.

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<v Speaker 2>The troops that have been to war and now they're back.

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<v Speaker 3>And think and be grateful for their service.

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<v Speaker 4>Sacrifice, love for their country, just unselfishness, all that.

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<v Speaker 3>They do for us.

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<v Speaker 5>There are some people in this country who take extraordinary

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<v Speaker 5>steps to provide for the freedom and security.

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<v Speaker 2>We forget that those people exist.

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<v Speaker 1>We know them as the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines,

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<v Speaker 1>and Coast Guard. They call themselves soldiers, seals, rangers, airmen, sailors, devil.

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<v Speaker 3>Dogs, and so much more.

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<v Speaker 1>We call them fathers, brothers, sons and husbands, mothers, daughters,

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<v Speaker 1>sisters and wives. We call them friend and neighbor. These

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<v Speaker 1>veterans answered the call, now we answer theirs. They are

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<v Speaker 1>the best our country has to offer, and we love them. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>we honor them and we serve them. David Maulsby is

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<v Speaker 1>your host, and he welcomes you to this community of veterans,

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<v Speaker 1>as together we are building the road to hope.

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<v Speaker 3>And indeed we are glad to have you along on

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<v Speaker 3>this Well. It's Memorial Day weekend, Sunday afternoon on the

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<v Speaker 3>KPRC the nine to five oh when the AM dial

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<v Speaker 3>those of you listening through radio, thank you for joining

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<v Speaker 3>us as you're on your way to do your things

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<v Speaker 3>for Memorial Day weekend. Those of you listening through the

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<v Speaker 3>Magic podcast, we sure do thank you for doing so.

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<v Speaker 3>Big things to all who listen. I'm gonna mention this

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<v Speaker 3>real quick. We will touch on Memorial Day. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of vets in here, as we usually do.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the guys on our staff that's a graduate

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<v Speaker 3>of the program at Camp Hope, the Interim Housing program

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<v Speaker 3>of the PTSD Foundation of America. And then we have

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<v Speaker 3>a current resident who is in the program at Camp Hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Will hear a little bit of his story. We to

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<v Speaker 3>so it is Memorial Day weekend, and reminding it's a

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<v Speaker 3>little different from Veterans Day, it's a little different from

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<v Speaker 3>Armed Forces Day. Memorial Day is set aside, originally known

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<v Speaker 3>as Decoration Day, but is set aside to honor and

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<v Speaker 3>mourn the US military personnel who died while serving in

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<v Speaker 3>the United States Military. It is observed the last Monday

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<v Speaker 3>of every May, and I guess, on the less formal

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<v Speaker 3>side kind of can considered to be the beginning of summer,

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<v Speaker 3>although summer has sit in Houston about three or four

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago, and it's going to stay and visit us

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<v Speaker 3>for several months. Now. It's here and you just might

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<v Speaker 3>as well get used to it. But a quick reminder,

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<v Speaker 3>Memorial Day is a holiday. It should be enjoyed, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not always and it's not all about or only

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<v Speaker 3>about the sale. Every department store in the world's got

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<v Speaker 3>Memorial Day sales, and I'd really like to think that

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<v Speaker 3>Memorial Day means a little bit more to us than

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<v Speaker 3>just we can go buy a new suit or new

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<v Speaker 3>shoes on sale. Because of this Memorial Day, we want

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<v Speaker 3>to set aside time. It may be a moment, it

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<v Speaker 3>be a while, depending on how close you are to

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<v Speaker 3>somebody that was killed in action, someone who died while serving.

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<v Speaker 3>But take some time to remember. Takes some time to

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<v Speaker 3>reflect and appreciate the freedoms that we have today because

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<v Speaker 3>of those men and women who put on the uniform

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<v Speaker 3>and didn't make it home. So take a little time

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<v Speaker 3>to do that. We'd appreciate it immensely. All right, in

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<v Speaker 3>the studio with us, we got Adrian back with us. Adrian,

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<v Speaker 3>want to reintroduce yourself to the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, Hello, Hello, So Adrian Jones are Colls me jonesy

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<v Speaker 5>so mentor alphabet being a mentor there in the year now,

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<v Speaker 5>served mostly in Iraq. I did two back to back

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<v Speaker 5>fourteen month tours and then I came home.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you from?

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<v Speaker 5>I am from Brady, Texas. Brady small town out west central.

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<v Speaker 3>Texas branch Marine Corps. Marine Corps. I'm surprised you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>say that Marines usually say that right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 3>like they're quick to say that. All right. Also in

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<v Speaker 3>program right now. Jeremy, want to introduce yourself.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm Jeremy Burgers.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm originally from Lexington, North Carolina, but I live over

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<v Speaker 4>in Atlanta, Georgia. Now, I did ten years in the

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<v Speaker 4>Air Force as a combat search and rescue loadmaster.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and you deployed.

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<v Speaker 4>I deployed twice, once to Afghanistan in twenty eleven and

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<v Speaker 4>once the Dabooty Africa in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So we'll get into your story here in just

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<v Speaker 3>a moment. Just quick reminder, get your phone out. Put

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<v Speaker 3>the phone number in. You never know. It may not

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<v Speaker 3>be for you, but you may need to share it

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<v Speaker 3>with somebody who could really use our services. So please

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<v Speaker 3>put the number in your phone. Eight seven seven seven

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<v Speaker 3>the phone, hit that number and tell them a combat

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<v Speaker 2>Ten either of you guys like crawlfish.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh do you really?

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<v Speaker 5>I've had one my whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like crawl fish. Like wait a minute, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't understand either.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. Maybe the one you had was not properly probably.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that was it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you like shrimp, I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I love frimp, Yeah I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh, well more for me. Uh, lots of crawfish

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend. I had a great, great day on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>We have we have two sci fair school teachers, husband wife,

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<v Speaker 3>the husband United States Army vet. And eleven years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it was, they held their first crawfish boil

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<v Speaker 3>in the front yard with some friends and donated from

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<v Speaker 3>that to Camp Hope for the very first time. And

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<v Speaker 3>now they've donated over one hundred and twenty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>from just having crawfish boil and inviting some friends over

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<v Speaker 3>in the front yard. It's the craziest thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>But I asked him a few years ago, so, well, man,

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<v Speaker 3>why do you do this, because it's a lot of work,

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<v Speaker 3>just the cooking the crawfish, just for that many people.

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<v Speaker 3>You got through four hundred people, that's a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 3>Just doing that. But he and his wife four months

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<v Speaker 3>leading up work really hard with their friends, their networks,

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<v Speaker 3>raising the money, getting donated items for you know, auction

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<v Speaker 3>items and that type of thing. But every year they

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<v Speaker 3>just pull off a great event and tremendously appreciate those

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<v Speaker 3>two of them for all that they do to support

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<v Speaker 3>our veterans at Camp Hope. And then today Sunday a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of crawfish on site. Oh yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and I think they've got a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>exactly how that's working out. I know I talked to

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<v Speaker 3>him about a couple of months ago and he was

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<v Speaker 3>going to try to pull off a little something extra.

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<v Speaker 3>So I won't say it so nobody gets disappointed, but

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<v Speaker 3>it should be a whole lot of fun with big,

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<v Speaker 3>course of a year. Well, there's some like a Memorial

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<v Speaker 3>Drive Methodist Church. They come out once a month and

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<v Speaker 3>provide meal for everybody at Camp Hope. But there are

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<v Speaker 3>several who do something like that. Del Frisco Grill comes

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<v Speaker 3>residents and the staff as well, and just a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of folks to do that, which one helps the obvious,

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<v Speaker 3>it helps keep our food bill down, but it also

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<v Speaker 3>provides provides our residence a little something different, little something extra,

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<v Speaker 3>and the opportunity to see that when people say thank

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<v Speaker 3>bumper sticker. There are some people who actually mean it

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<v Speaker 3>and go above and beyond just saying some words, but

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<v Speaker 3>actually doing some things, giving of their time. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you ever have an interest in doing that, that can

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<v Speaker 3>be from everything from coming out and helping pulling weeds

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<v Speaker 3>to helping with events like the crawfish bull that we

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<v Speaker 3>had yesterday, different events that go on through a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of golf tournaments that go on through the course of

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<v Speaker 3>the year that require a lot of volunteers to help

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<v Speaker 3>make those things happen. And if you ever have an

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<v Speaker 3>interest in doing something like that or just learning more

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<v Speaker 3>about what those opportunities are. Our website is PTSD US

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<v Speaker 3>a dot org. And there's a button when you get

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<v Speaker 3>give help and it'll take you to a drop down menu.

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<v Speaker 3>Can just click on volunteers and it'll show you some

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<v Speaker 3>more information. So ptsd us a dot org. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>So raised in North Carolina? And where what was the

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<v Speaker 3>town again?

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<v Speaker 6>Lexington?

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<v Speaker 3>Lexington? Okay, all right? Do they still make a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of furniture over there?

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<v Speaker 1>They do.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a big furniture Lexington and Salisbury.

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<v Speaker 6>They're a big furniture.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it was at one time. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it was still going on, still going on? All right,

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<v Speaker 3>very cool. You went to high schooler?

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<v Speaker 6>I did. I went to Davidson County.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your claim to fame in high school?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Adrian, did you do sports in high school?

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<v Speaker 5>My opinion? Track?

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<v Speaker 5>All four years I went to regionals. I qualified high jump,

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<v Speaker 5>The chance to look it up. Nineteen ninety eight, I

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<v Speaker 3>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 5>Three A?

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<v Speaker 3>What year?

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<v Speaker 5>Nineteen ninety eight?

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<v Speaker 5>My defense that year allowed nineteen points the whole season.

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<v Speaker 3>We're worthy of what's school?

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<v Speaker 6>Brady?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>We were the number one defense in the state three

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<v Speaker 5>A And that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't want to do that in college?

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<v Speaker 3>Why'd you decide to join the military?

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<v Speaker 4>because I was like, if I get too old, I

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<v Speaker 3>So how old were you when you join?

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<v Speaker 6>I was twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's not too long now. But you were the

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<v Speaker 6>Actually I wasn't. There was one that was forty five

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, all right, But other than that, I was the

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<v Speaker 4>I always wanted to fly, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 4>can knock out two birds in one stone. I can

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<v Speaker 4>I flew on the back of the plane. Like I

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah the plane? Was?

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<v Speaker 3>what I was, you know, airborne and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>jumping out of planes. I used to say, jumping out

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<v Speaker 3>of a perfectly good airplane. They'd all shake their head. No,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. No, it started off like some of the ones

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<v Speaker 4>I started off flying. They were sixty years old, so

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<v Speaker 3>Scary, yeah, I know. Like, Okay, so we're sending our

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<v Speaker 3>young men and women to war on sixty year old airplanes. Hmmm,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think, yeah, I forget what the number was.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to add both of you guys to to

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<v Speaker 3>talk a little bit about what Memorial Day means to

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<v Speaker 3>you personally. And I know for many a Memorial Day

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<v Speaker 3>of our a lot of our veterans, some not so much.

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<v Speaker 3>But regardless, whatever that is for you, I'd just like

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<v Speaker 3>for you to share a little bit about what it

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<v Speaker 3>means to you. If there's anything in particular, anyone in

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<v Speaker 5>So for me, I guess Memorial Day weekend, it's roughly

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<v Speaker 5>twenty some years ago now, a long time actually lost

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<v Speaker 5>the marine under my charge, and so it means to

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<v Speaker 5>me it's just what it means to be free, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the Ultimate Sacrifice parade and what we did over there

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<v Speaker 5>and to value what we have here. It's just remind

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<v Speaker 5>nder of, you know, what to be grateful for, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>coming home and what it was all about and those

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<v Speaker 5>that do do give ultimate sacrifice. So very it was

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<v Speaker 5>it was. It used to be sad for me, but

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<v Speaker 5>now as I've worked through a lot of it, it's

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<v Speaker 5>more of a you know, just being grateful, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Before you worked through some of that, you can kind

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<v Speaker 3>of recall maybe first or second, first few Memorial Days,

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<v Speaker 3>how did you cope with those?

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<v Speaker 5>So I would usually be with myself. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>be reminded of it, because you know, you get you

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<v Speaker 5>So I usually haunted by myself. You know, I'd go

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<v Speaker 3>And this year you'd be doing what on Memorial Day?

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<v Speaker 5>This year, believe it or not, I'll be working, but

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<v Speaker 5>me too, but you know, I'll be with some fellow

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<v Speaker 5>they're around, and things of that nature, some totally different

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't be able to do, you know, some fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>How important is it, though that the ones you're going

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean it helps with the you know, some

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<v Speaker 5>Will I get through this? Will it ever change? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've always remembered Memorial Day as is a time

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<v Speaker 4>one of those humbling moments to know that, yes, we

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<v Speaker 4>somber moments just to remember friends and families that passed.

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<v Speaker 4>I luckily haven't had any of that passed inside the service,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's remember those that weren't so fortunate, that have

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<v Speaker 4>get out of the Air Force, by the way, twenty

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen nineteen. Okay, did Memorial they change for you at all?

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<v Speaker 4>Post military?

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<v Speaker 4>Being in a military family like I was raised on

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<v Speaker 4>how Memorial meant to remember, so it was already there,

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<v Speaker 4>so it really didn't change any throughout my entire life,

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So six years from the time you got out

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<v Speaker 3>of their time you got to Camp Hope. PTSD's part

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<v Speaker 3>of your life. Yes, when did you begin to notice

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<v Speaker 4>Normal my wife was. She kept going, She's like, you

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<v Speaker 4>getting really worse than the suicidal aviations and everything, She's like,

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<v Speaker 4>to a couple of different rehab facilities and didn't really

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<v Speaker 4>and they found Camp Hope And as soon as I

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<v Speaker 3>When did you kind of begin that journey of looking

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<v Speaker 3>for help those first couple of rehabs you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 6>So that started in August of last year.

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<v Speaker 6>Is years five is years to actually decide I needed help.

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<v Speaker 6>But the PTSD started while I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Still in the military too, so it had they took

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<v Speaker 4>almost what that look for you what was going on.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a lot of isolation and then not really

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<v Speaker 4>was more or less I wanted to get back out

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<v Speaker 4>deployed to help those that we need it, because being

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<v Speaker 4>who's going to save the people?

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<v Speaker 6>Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 3>How did you cope with that while we were Did

431
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<v Speaker 3>you talk to anybody about it?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

433
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<v Speaker 6>I never talked to anybody.

434
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<v Speaker 4>I was always told if you go talk to somebody,

435
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<v Speaker 4>that's going to be the end of your military career.

436
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<v Speaker 4>And I wanted to make a twenty year career out

437
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<v Speaker 4>of it. So it's one of those things I just

438
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<v Speaker 4>bottled inside. And the longer you bottle it inside, the

439
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<v Speaker 4>harder it gets.

440
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<v Speaker 3>Which was an interesting thing that I think happened in

441
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<v Speaker 3>you know, the post nine to eleven Wars. I think

442
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<v Speaker 3>it was about twenty fourteen, twenty fifth Team the Pentagon

443
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<v Speaker 3>was really trying to push to change some of that,

444
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<v Speaker 3>and so they even had some remember vividly there's a

445
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<v Speaker 3>couple of generals that spoke openly about their PTSD and

446
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:20.799
<v Speaker 3>the thought was we can kind of you know, guys

447
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 3>like that can talk about it you can too. The

448
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:29.759
<v Speaker 3>problem was those who were, you know, overseeing the battle

449
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:35.759
<v Speaker 3>in country had to have everybody there, and that seemed

450
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<v Speaker 3>to be the conflict that there was no way they

451
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<v Speaker 3>could just let you go see the psych or whatever

452
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.680
<v Speaker 3>it was gonna whatever their course of action was going

453
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<v Speaker 3>to be, because they needed those bodies in the field.

454
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<v Speaker 3>Did you see any of that while you were in so.

455
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<v Speaker 5>Out of that. So, of course I was deployed over

456
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<v Speaker 5>there from two thousand and two to two thousand and four,

457
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<v Speaker 5>so I was in the initial push and all that

458
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<v Speaker 5>good stuff. So in about two thousand and late two

459
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<v Speaker 5>thousand and three, of course, after a few visits from

460
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<v Speaker 5>General you know, Maddis and all those guys coming over there.

461
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<v Speaker 5>Because I was a general driver, Uh, you saw a

462
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<v Speaker 5>lot of that. They would have these little meetings in

463
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<v Speaker 5>different areas throughout all the way up to Bagdad, and

464
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 5>they would ask us about things like that, and it

465
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<v Speaker 5>was always kind of like, well, they're not really here,

466
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<v Speaker 5>but you know.

467
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<v Speaker 3>So it was, it was, it was, it was, it

468
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<v Speaker 3>was there.

469
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<v Speaker 5>It was noticeable.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, we're gonna take our final break here.

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<v Speaker 3>PTSDUSA dot org eight seven seven seven one seven seventy eight,

472
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<v Speaker 3>seventy three, eight seven seven seven one seven seventy eight

473
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<v Speaker 3>seventy three. I should mention everything we do. Everything we

474
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<v Speaker 3>do for our combat veterans and their family is at

475
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<v Speaker 3>no charge to the vet or to the family. The

476
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:03.119
<v Speaker 3>interim housing program that we call Camp Hope here in Houston, Texas,

477
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 3>we bring veterans in from every part of the country,

478
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 3>every era of war, every military branch. We haven't had

479
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.519
<v Speaker 3>the space for us yet, but you know it's coming

480
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.839
<v Speaker 3>in time. But we've had a little bit of everything

481
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.599
<v Speaker 3>come through our doors. It's a program that's designed to

482
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:20.920
<v Speaker 3>be sixty nine months in link that is on purpose,

483
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.160
<v Speaker 3>and I know that scares some people off, but we're

484
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 3>looking for life change, like trajectory change, and I just

485
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of encourage you to look at it as one

486
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<v Speaker 3>more deployments at this time getting shot at. You're rebuilding

487
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<v Speaker 3>your life PTSDUSA dot org. We'll be back in just

488
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<v Speaker 3>a moment. More of Road to Hope, Radio, stot.

489
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<v Speaker 2>A Girl, the Friend Scene, find say have a thing.

490
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<v Speaker 3>We've mentioned Campo, but also want to mention to you.

491
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<v Speaker 3>We have other support systems as well. We run what

492
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 3>we call warrior groups and family groups across the city

493
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Speaker 3>of Houston, a few places across Texas, and a few

494
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 3>places across the country, including the virtual one that you

495
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:38.519
<v Speaker 3>can jump on anywhere where you have internet access. Those

496
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:43.039
<v Speaker 3>are not as strictly limited to combat related PTSD. There'd

497
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:48.039
<v Speaker 3>be veterans in there, not necessarily combat related trauma. We

498
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 3>have law enforcement, we have first responders, We've had contractors

499
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 3>in those groups, so a little bit more flexibility in those,

500
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:03.720
<v Speaker 3>and it's those are designed to help mitigate the need

501
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 3>for Camp Hope and then also to support our veterans

502
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 3>returning back to those areas after completing the program at

503
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Camp Hope. Again, those are all free in line or as.

504
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<v Speaker 3>As we do those warrior groups, we also do the

505
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 3>family support groups. They coincide with each other, and that

506
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 3>can be family members, it can be friends, it can

507
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:33.480
<v Speaker 3>be just somebody who cares. I know you'd mentioned, Jeremy

508
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 3>that your wife was the one who's kind of pushing you.

509
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 3>You got to go do something about what's happening here.

510
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes that happens. Sometimes they just leave and that's kind

511
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<v Speaker 3>of a final straw for a veteran and then they

512
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 3>really start to spiral. But those support groups, family members

513
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 3>can help them understand what happened to their loved one,

514
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.880
<v Speaker 3>what actually is going on with PTSD, the rewiring of

515
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<v Speaker 3>the brain. Some of the actions, some of the words

516
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 3>that are said and done can feel very personal, but

517
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 3>it's not about that. So we have to help family

518
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 3>members understand that, how to help them support their loved

519
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:17.000
<v Speaker 3>one rather than enable continued bad decisions. So those are

520
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 3>available again online and in person several places across the country.

521
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<v Speaker 3>You can find all that information on our website PTSDUSA

522
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<v Speaker 3>dot org. And again, all of that's free, all of

523
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 3>it's confidential, So check it out PTSDUSA dot org. Try

524
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<v Speaker 3>out one of those warrior groups, try out one of

525
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.440
<v Speaker 3>those family groups. Many times it's a family member that

526
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 3>will first go seek help and they use that kind

527
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<v Speaker 3>of as a motivation to try to get their veteran,

528
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 3>their loved one to get the help that they need.

529
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's the family member that makes the first step.

530
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<v Speaker 3>So that's that's not an unusual thing to happen in

531
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:06.599
<v Speaker 3>our support groups. Please please check it out. So a

532
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:11.799
<v Speaker 3>few rehab programs, the last one you completed, yes, but

533
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 3>you wanted something in addition, Yeah, because.

534
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<v Speaker 4>All the other ones I went to didn't really deal

535
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 4>with any of the PTSD. It was mostly all depression,

536
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 4>anxiety or substance abuse. And I needed something a little

537
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 4>bit more to deal with my PTSD and the nightmares

538
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:34.160
<v Speaker 4>and everything. And so that's when me and my accounselor

539
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.599
<v Speaker 4>found Can't Hope and they're like, this may be a

540
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 4>good fit for you, and disgusted with my wife and.

541
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:42.279
<v Speaker 3>She was like, yeah, go were you self medicating?

542
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 4>I was not self medicating because being Air Force, we

543
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 4>were always taught you can't take any medic medication unless

544
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:52.640
<v Speaker 4>it's prescribed to you. So I've just been living on

545
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:57.359
<v Speaker 4>that mindset and then luckily I didn't have any substance

546
00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 4>abuse problems.

547
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 3>So were you Were you diagnosed by the VA?

548
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I was?

549
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 4>I was actually didn't get I got diagnosed at my

550
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.000
<v Speaker 4>last rehib facility and then got diagnosed by the VA.

551
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<v Speaker 6>Here of Camp Hope.

552
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<v Speaker 3>All right, when you first when you first mentioned Camp Hope,

553
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:21.920
<v Speaker 3>what do you recall about the conversation, your reaction to it.

554
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Uh, When I first heard about it, it was it

555
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:29.559
<v Speaker 4>was almost like a weight was going to get lifted off,

556
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 4>Like I felt like there was actually.

557
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.359
<v Speaker 6>The name Hope. I felt like there was.

558
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Something I could look forward to to like get the

559
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:41.400
<v Speaker 4>help I needed, and I wouldn't have to rely on

560
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 4>everybody else. I could go and get the help myself

561
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:47.880
<v Speaker 4>and then let the family kind of do you other

562
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 4>thing while I'm getting myself worked out.

563
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<v Speaker 3>That's to me, that's the beauty of the peer to peer.

564
00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:59.759
<v Speaker 3>And there's two aspects of the period of peer. There's

565
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<v Speaker 3>the period of peer amongst the guys who were actually

566
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<v Speaker 3>in the program at the time, and that can be

567
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 3>powerful as well. But all your mentors are graduates of

568
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:14.159
<v Speaker 3>the program, and even just that in and of itself

569
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 3>should inspire some hope. Right. It may take it a

570
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:19.880
<v Speaker 3>minute because you know, in the depths of the darkness

571
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes you can't really process it to understand that.

572
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 3>But when that guy's sitting on the other side of

573
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 3>the desk, is that where you sat, whether it was

574
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:31.280
<v Speaker 3>a year ago or four years ago or ten years ago,

575
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of power that like you're looking at hope.

576
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 5>It took a little while from me to realize it,

577
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 5>but now it's full circle. You know, after going through

578
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:47.039
<v Speaker 5>the program, graduating then you know, being there being like

579
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 5>a secutive with two years now and it's like I

580
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.079
<v Speaker 5>see the full spectrum of it, and it is like,

581
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:59.639
<v Speaker 5>I'm a lot more comfortable with opening up, being transparent

582
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:03.320
<v Speaker 5>about things. I'm less likely to shut down and shut

583
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 5>them out, even with you know, still you know, program

584
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 5>directors and managers and lead mentors and stuff. It's a

585
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.119
<v Speaker 5>lot different than sitting in the bay with the guys

586
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.280
<v Speaker 5>just trying to you know, just talking about things versus

587
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:20.199
<v Speaker 5>actually being honest about it. That makes sense. So it's

588
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:26.679
<v Speaker 5>it is powerful. Definitely get that sense of you not alone.

589
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 3>In this, you know.

590
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<v Speaker 5>So that's one of the best feelings to have to support.

591
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:36.719
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it can get very lonely, sir. How long

592
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 3>have you been to camp?

593
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<v Speaker 6>I'm coming up on month five?

594
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so are you into yelliot?

595
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 6>I go to the yellow boards next week?

596
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 3>All right?

597
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:51.360
<v Speaker 4>So then straight the yellow phase and then hopefully green

598
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 4>phase after that and until I get everything worked out

599
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:55.639
<v Speaker 4>and feel safe going home.

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<v Speaker 3>What's what's changed.

601
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 4>It's one of the like I feel like I can

602
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.599
<v Speaker 4>be more open about my emotions other than bottling them in.

603
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 4>I feel like there's like people that would actually listen

604
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:14.280
<v Speaker 4>and care, and people that have gone through similar things

605
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 4>as me, so they can relate to it.

606
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 6>So lets me open up more.

607
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 4>And then just getting some of the education on some

608
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 4>of the depression and PTSD opens opens my eyes to

609
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 4>like how things actually can be beneficial.

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<v Speaker 6>If you know what's going on, you can start to

611
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:33.519
<v Speaker 6>work on it.

612
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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like your family's been supportive. Yes, that's gotta

613
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.000
<v Speaker 3>be a big plus because you've been there five months,

614
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.719
<v Speaker 3>so you've seen plenty come through that don't have the

615
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 3>family support.

616
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, having that family support is kind of what's keeping

617
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 4>me here because knowing that I have somewhere safe to

618
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 4>come home to is something that keeps me there to

619
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.599
<v Speaker 4>keep working on myself, being like, hey, I know you're there,

620
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 4>but I need a couple more months. Just just keep

621
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 4>it going while I'm working on myself, And they're like, hey,

622
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 4>the most important thing is take care of yourself.

623
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<v Speaker 3>Now. You mentioned stand for green yes, which for folks

624
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 3>listening that doesn't mean much as anything, but it means

625
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.559
<v Speaker 3>you've completed the program and now you're staying to work

626
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.320
<v Speaker 3>on some additional things, working on your go forward plan.

627
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 3>What are you looking forward to?

628
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 4>Uh, Honestly, one of the things I'm most looking forward

629
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 4>to is seeing my kids again, because I have not

630
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 4>seen or spoke to my kids in eight months, So

631
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 4>that's one of the things I'm looking forward to.

632
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how old are they?

633
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:42.360
<v Speaker 6>Uh my daughter is seven and my son's fourteen.

634
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:46.159
<v Speaker 3>Awesome, good, well, I know that'll be a great day

635
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 3>when that day comes around.

636
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 6>Yes, sir.

637
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:52.320
<v Speaker 3>But in the meantime, keep doing the work, finish up strong,

638
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 3>complete what needs to be completed. Don't leave anything unchecked.

639
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:58.079
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of time guys end up coming back

640
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 3>because they wouldn't open up about one thing because they

641
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:03.559
<v Speaker 3>were too embarrassed or too whatever and just wouldn't do it.

642
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Get it all out there, man, while you're here, get

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<v Speaker 3>it all out Thanks for joining us. Thanks for sharing

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of your story. I know that's the

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<v Speaker 3>favorite thing in the world to do, is here some

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<v Speaker 3>of those dark moments in our life. Adrian, Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for what you do each and every day for our

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<v Speaker 3>veterans at Camp Hope. I'm forever grateful that you do

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<v Speaker 3>what you do. Appreciate it very much. And to each

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<v Speaker 3>and every one of you listening and those of you

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<v Speaker 3>who support the programs of the PTSD Foundation of America,

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<v Speaker 3>we thank you, whether you're volunteering or donating, Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so very much. I do. Hope you have a meaningful

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<v Speaker 3>and enjoyable Memorial Day weekend. Enjoy the day, remember the

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<v Speaker 3>purpose of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Look forward to being with you again next week for

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<v Speaker 3>more of Road to Hope Radio

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<v Speaker 5>Mom
