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Speaker 1: The ever hated Steve Fessick joins us.

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Speaker 2: No, we read a nice conference with Steve last week too.

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Speaker 1: It was fantastic his his uh pod. What would that

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be called? That we had a gaming conference boot camp? Yeah,

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I lost eight pounds by the way. They didn't tell you,

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but in the boot camp. No, but it was. It

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was a fun time. A couple of the guys are

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here from the boot camp. We appreciate, appreciate all you

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guys coming in, and we have a couple of good

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guests that we're also going to have on today.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to get this all in less than an hour,

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and we should though. It's no problem.

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Speaker 1: Randy McKay professional better, myself, professional better podcaster, John Big podcaster.

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John is John Orlando. His dad is Tony Orlando. There's

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probably no one old enough in the room to know

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what Tony is. Oh yes, bookinos, Sorry, I thought it is.

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Speaker 3: What it is.

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Speaker 2: I know you would know, but there's a lot of

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younger people. Crack.

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Speaker 4: I thought for sure when you said Randy professional gamber

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you're a professional, I thought you were to say professional degenerate.

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Speaker 3: I thought, for sure, tell you what the show works

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so well, and I think why we get so many

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views and comments and people John your rarity in the business.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I host a nationwide Fox show on five hundred and

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twelve networks. I have a co host and I have

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another co host, the one played in the NFL ones.

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I was planning for him to be that setup guided

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and Fox told me, yeah, crack pick on him. He's

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a gambler. The first week he was like, you can't

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say this stuff to me. So, I mean, I love

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doing the show. It's a nationwide show. I'm totally blessed.

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You know that that that someone will come.

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Speaker 2: To the one that I'm not and you would be

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great on win me.

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Speaker 1: And only because John admits I'm not. I don't want

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to embarrass it from anyone. Okay, don't don't touch me.

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Speaker 2: No, but John admits to being.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He likes to gamble. He likes lays the way to

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go right.

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Speaker 1: It's correct, Yeah, Parlay's and he's very honest though, and

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he's hit going around once. No, he's not following around.

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He you know, he loves to gamble and gambling loves him.

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And yeah, no, and he admits it and it works

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well together.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Randy comes on football season gives out his you know,

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let's face it, we've made.

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Speaker 2: A lot of money in our career of gambling.

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Speaker 1: Besides what the dark twitter trolls say, but we've made

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a lot of money gambling, Randy, you and I even

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over the years together with different things. And you know,

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I never ever talked about this, And how can I

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hate you with this cold without asking you ahead of time?

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So we won four hundred and ninety thousand together at

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the end contest. That really set our contest streak going.

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Speaker 5: That was the last one hundred thousand buy and this

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will be the this will be the This was one

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hundred thousand buy in the Grandissimo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I didn't tell anyone that we were getting in.

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I didn't tell anyone yet. I just you know, because

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it's not me that say, oh yeah, I'm coming, I'm

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coming in with a partnership.

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Speaker 2: I'm not spending one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, also, you always you told me not to

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say something. Back then, can we talk about DraftKings now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, okay, back then you weare like, no, don't

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tell no one. We won that.

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Speaker 1: So we won a lot of money in the Draft

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Kings contest. Because of the overlay situation they had. I've

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never told anyone publicly go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're talking about the weekend one or the

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fifty thousand buy in.

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Speaker 1: The fifty thousand buy in which there was going to

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be what was the guarantee?

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Speaker 5: So the guarantee on that one, I believe, trying to remember.

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Speaker 2: Now whatever it was. There was an overlay, Yeah, there was.

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Speaker 5: There were two people short of the overlays, so like

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one hundred thousand dollars at it.

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Speaker 1: But it was six the day of the we weren't

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going to enter. It was six with an hour to go.

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Four people entered.

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Speaker 5: And it was kind of inconvenient because you had to

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be in a draft King state, couldn't use a proxy.

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They had a lot of rules on that. In fact,

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one of my friends he got this not in that contest,

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but another one he got disqualified because you had they

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tracked his location and disqualified him.

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Speaker 1: But that's why, that's why you didn't want it, because I

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was like, the DraftKings is really strict on and same

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thing with FanDuel.

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Speaker 2: They're pretty strict on location.

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Speaker 1: And making sure where you're betting from and if you're

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betting from the same house. You know I talked about

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on vs in a couple of weeks ago. There's a

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group that reached out to me that's owed hundreds of

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thousands of dollars and the one guy is down like

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two hundred thousand in his account and he won back

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one hundred and twenty still down eighty thousand overall, and

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they're not paying him one hundred and twenty thousand. That's

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just so dirty because saying no, well, you won the

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money with these other guys, and like I said, his

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account was two hundred thousand down.

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Speaker 2: I have no stake in the game. So people were

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coming at me.

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Speaker 1: But you know what's amazing, out of one hundred and

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some comments on Twitter about twenty of them.

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Speaker 2: Stuck up for the sports book.

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Speaker 1: They said, well, of course you're not allowed to about

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the same game together on a telegram chat. Well, what

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if I give out a game, Steve gets out of

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a game. What if you give out a game and

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everyone bets it together and you just send one hundred

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bucks two hundred bucks f bucks. Yes, in the terms

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and conditions, these big sports books do not have to

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pay you if they don't want to. But the you know,

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the bane of my existence will be to go after them,

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and I don't care if they sponsor my show or

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I'm still going after them throwing off air.

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Speaker 2: I'm sticking up for helping the public at their money.

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Speaker 5: So it's another instance where they're trying to reinvent the

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wheel when the wheel's already made there. So yeah, I

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disagree with them as well.

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Speaker 1: So I have a breaking thing that I'm not going

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to mention the name again, but you're probably know. So

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I have a lot of family in the Bronx and

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they go to Yonkers, which I've only been there once. Well,

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it's funny. I lived thirteen minutes for the place I

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went one time. When I was a kid, my parents

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didn't want me around gambling.

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Speaker 2: Sorry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had an old fashioned Hungarian Jewish father Italian mother.

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They did not want me, please don't. And of course

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my mother's family corrupted everyone, my father, everybody of Sam.

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I remember that though, because we were I was about

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eight years old and we weren't even allowed to go

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out when Sam h David Burker, which was was doing that.

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We weren't even allowed to go out like outside on

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night time.

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Speaker 2: We were boys and a girl.

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Speaker 1: It was a bad time, but Anyway, there's the Yonkers casino.

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Speaker 2: Anyone been there. I haven't been there. Anyone been.

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Speaker 1: There's a Yonker's casino now in Yonkers, at the dump

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of a racetrack. They're taking twenty five thousand a hand

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virtually because there's no dealers. And one of the biggest

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NBA players was next to my cousins and he's taking

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the video and showing me the video. I said, you

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can't do that. I'm not going to show that nowhere.

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One of the biggest NBA players in the world, he's

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all known.

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Speaker 2: He's killing me right now. He's worth he's worth one

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hundred over one hundred million.

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Speaker 6: And what is his last name?

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Speaker 2: Rhyme with he.

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Speaker 1: Lost a million bucks last week last and my cousin,

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my cousin christ you know he works in the Bronx

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with thirty three years, A good kid. He's taken the

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video and he's saying, cousin, Billy, do you believe this?

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Speaker 2: He's been twenty five and he's showing me the thing.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I can't never rap the guy out.

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But he lost he lost a million bucks. Yeah, he

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was up two hundred thousand, lost a million dollars.

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Speaker 2: That night.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know you could lose a million dollars on

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a on a video blackjack game. But that's unbelievable, isn't it.

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I mean, I listen, I love Barkley, but I mean,

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is it really yeah?

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Speaker 2: Wow wow.

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Speaker 1: By the way, on a serious note, though, I love

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Charles Barkley. I Charles Barkley. I was with them one day.

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He said, how many guys you got in valet? And

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they said thirteen to got thirteen hundred? Really one hundred

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dollars each?

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Speaker 2: Like, why do I have to rate people by what

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they spend?

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Speaker 4: Tipping is the fastest way to your heart, you love, I.

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Speaker 1: Love you throw the money a little bit, I mean

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just being you know, you make a lot of money

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to share it with people.

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Speaker 2: That's the way I feel.

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Speaker 5: The Scott Pippen, Yeah, Scottie, No, no tipping Pippin.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of which though, uh, there are some of those

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NBA players that that that don't tip, but he is

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one of them that that tips really well. I've been

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around a couple of guys that really tip really well,

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the famous people. And the opposite is for like, my

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buddy had a big golf event and charity event put

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together and like Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 2: How can you not take care of people? And you

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know who he had?

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Speaker 1: He had a restaurant in La comped the meal. He's

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a Tiger meals comp don't worry about it. Bill was

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thirteen hundred, doesn't tip the waiter nothing.

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Speaker 2: God, it's crazy. I just don't get it. Like it

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gave me.

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Speaker 1: He was playing at the and comes to his restaurant.

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It's Mastros Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 2: You know what it is?

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Speaker 1: Yep, Like you get a fake cop meal at Mastros,

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Tiger you can't pay the tip.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Anyway? I usually don't name names. Sorry I just named

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a couple of names. It just happens. But uh listen.

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John has been given out a couple If you guys

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watch our podcast. We're on YouTube every week. John has

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been given out a couple UFC guys and anyone else

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you want to bury it.

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Speaker 2: Last week you killed.

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Speaker 4: The record wait Osborne on seven days notice. He was

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plus four to twenty or something. He did to lose,

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but it went the distance and he almost knocked the

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guy out round one.

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Speaker 2: It was absolute live dog. Really yes, that means at okay? Yeah, No,

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John gives out underdog.

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Speaker 4: John gives out under the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: That was the beginning of the season, and you were

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over one hundred and four and a half wins. I

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gotta be honest, Steve, didn't you at one time? But

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then week then you said, no, wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: We're off this. I got under one.

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Speaker 1: I remember Steve text me, and I didn't mean to

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put you on a spot there.

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Speaker 2: I remember you text me, you said, get off this.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't on it. I wasn't to be honest, I

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wasn't even on it. But on a serious note, though

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people come after you all the times.

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Speaker 2: Who a little bit is? You know your Twitter persona,

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I mean, you do it to yourself.

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Speaker 1: But however, though in person, they don't know how good

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this guy is and talk about tip.

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Speaker 2: I'm a tip guy.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks, about a month ago, you were

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at the cage with me at the Circle cashier and

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we went to go get money out of my account

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and I had to get something like ten times for you,

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and I get that, I said, just give it to him.

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He pushed the button and transferred it. Steve's taking out

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twenty dollars for the guy, I.

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Speaker 2: Said, what's that for?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 1: Gotta take care of him. We had no cash transaction.

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You pushed the button. But yeah, he's a very good

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guy helping people, and we made a lot of money together.

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I don't think you've ever paid me, to be honest

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with you, No, no, no, that means it came out wrong.

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Speaker 2: We have a settle figure.

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Speaker 1: We have a settle figure every time, and I don't

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think you've ever paid me a dollar and every time

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I've paid you a five figure settlement every time.

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Speaker 2: So it's good.

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Speaker 1: They have a lot of outs, a lot of outs,

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a lot of connections, a lot of good you know relations.

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But anyway, neither one of us went according to some

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of the people outside that door.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was.

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Speaker 1: Realisted my cousin was here, and you know this is

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not my cousin from the from the Bronx, but I

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have a cousin that was here.

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Speaker 2: And he doesn't listen to anything I say. He's like,

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I'm not listening to anything. He said, Listen.

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Speaker 1: He calls me Cus too, goes Cus, Cuz I've been

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losing my whole life. I know I'm not listening to

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anything you say. I'm betting my own stuff. Anyone that

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listens to anyone.

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Speaker 2: Else but I'm like, he has no money.

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Speaker 1: I swear he makes like one hundred and fifty, maybe

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a little bit more, one hundred and eighty thousand a year.

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He has no money. It all goes to the he

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I told him I was going to use this story,

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and he, you know, he made me a comment to me.

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He said, I try to make a score with every

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penny I have. Now I've made some hundred, he said,

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I've made one hundred thousand dollars a couple of times,

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but he has nothing.

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Speaker 2: And I just thought about that, and John, what's it

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like to do that?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 8: I was running where you were going.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I mean, I mean it's amazing, though, Joe Public.

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On a serious note, I don't think like that. But

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let me tell you something. Bill Krackenberger was a big

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loser way before I was a winner. I was a

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little djen. You know, I'm growing up in Mammoth County,

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New Jersey. Used to come down. Before I lived in

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Mammoth County, about forty five minutes out of Manhattan. I

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used to come down every weekend the work of my

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aunt and uncle's pizza stan. I was a little degenerate

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with my buddies twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen. My parents didn't

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even know I was a little DJN. We played every

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even though my cousin was teaching card counting, and he

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was teaching you how to just keep track of two things,

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aces and fives. It's one deck bill, four aces, four fives,

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and they dealt to the bottom. So you could picture

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it on the boardwalk when the business closed. All the

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games of chance, the wheels they used to be called skillo,

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and the different games of chance. They all came to

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the pizza stan and gambled and they would deal head

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to head blackjack, down to the bottom. So he taught

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me a lot of things, but yet I would blow

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the money at Mamma's race track. I would take a

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bus from my little town in Kingsburg, take a bus

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to Long Branch, from Long Branch to Eaton Town, and

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I blow all the money. I was a total sucker

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until one day I got a call from somebody in

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jail from Scranton, Pennsylvania, and he called me up and said, hey,

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he was just in jail for a stupid little thing.

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But he found out something in Atlantic City about blackjack,

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a blackjack machine. He didn't know much, but he said,

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it's a blackjack machine in Atlantic City at the Golden Nugget.

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Speaker 2: This is not the Golden Nugget that's there now.

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Speaker 1: This is the old Golden Nugget, which then became Valley's

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Grand the Hilton and the Atlantic. I ta get closed

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as the Atlantic, and I go in there two in

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the morning. I'm working two jobs. By the way, at

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the time, I think I was selling I was selling cemetery.

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Speaker 2: Plots at the time.

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Speaker 1: Imagine mausolelliums and cemetery plots and doing radio sales in

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the daytime. I'm like twenty three, you're twenty two, twenty

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three years old. And I go down there, and the

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guy next to me was just just what happens that

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there's twelve machines, they're all full, and just an old

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man got up. God, let the old man get up.

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That's all I can tell you. Sitting in that seat,

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the guy next to me changed my life. I would

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never be here today if it wasn't for that guy.

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And he was the head of the card count team

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it resorts in Atlantic City, but by night he was

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counting cards, looking for edges, doing things around nineteen ninety three,

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and he actually said to me. There wasn't tickets in

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and out of the time, the tito's were not there.

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Speaker 2: You had to go.

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Speaker 1: You put a one hundred dollars billion and you get

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these dollar core there about this big there. Used to

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sell them in a roll of twenty or forty. Fat

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You're old enough for this, right, you know? The rolls

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of coins. Oh, by the way, what a video last

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night I've seen you. I'll talk about that later. I

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had no idea this stuff happened. That's that's why. I mean,

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I can't believe you got in here with a gun. Okay,

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So anyway, so these rolls of coins, he says to me, He.

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Speaker 2: Goes, hey, he's six foot six here you sor can

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you buy? Do you know? Tell Frank Yeah, oh wow,

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I remember.

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Speaker 1: He says, can you buy a roll of tokens from me?

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And I'm looking up at Lurch. I mean, he's sick,

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he's so big, and I'm like sure, and I still

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don't know why. And I get the coins and I'm

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putting them in, but I'm watching to see what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: And I realized this.

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Speaker 1: You could put the dollar in a dollar and there

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was a surrender button that gave you back the dollar.

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So if you didn't like your hand, start over. So

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if the dealer has a twenty up, I'm sorry, a

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ten up, you should surrender, even with eighteen eighteen is

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a losing hand long term, so you can get your

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dollar back. And I'm doing it with him, and he's like, oh,

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we want to fill the hopper. We don't want the

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slot attendants coming over with bags and coins. They'll know

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we're doing something. I don't even know what we're doing.

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But he's that super smart. Not he's not really straight smart.

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I love Frank, but i'm but he's not. Like he's

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talking to me like I know what he's talking about.

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And if anyone knows what surrender is, you get fifty

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percent of your bet back.

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Speaker 2: This machine gave you the whole dollar back.

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Speaker 1: It may not sound like a lot, but here I

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am twenty two years old. I got maybe two three

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grand in the bank. I came down, there were five

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hundred bucks and I made six thousand that night, and

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I never looked back.

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Speaker 2: Quit the jobs.

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Speaker 1: Frank and I became partners in sports the next ten years.

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And it's amazing. You know, Frank, I didn't I thought

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maybe you knew him.

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Speaker 5: But seeing him at Palace.

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Speaker 2: At the Double Jokers, the Double Joker machines.

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Speaker 9: Frank changed my life back when Trump only.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have much money.

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Speaker 1: And he's saying, do you bet with bookmakers in New

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York because I have bookmakers in Philadelphia in South Jersey.

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I said, yeah, he goes, well, wee can get some

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nice middles and scalps. I didn't even really know what

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middles and scalps were.

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Speaker 2: So crack.

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Speaker 6: How long was that machine like that today?

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Speaker 2: Eighteen hours?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, matter of fact, we built up all the comps

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The next day they took all the comps back. I

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remember I called my I wasn't married at the time,

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I was dating my wife, and I said, listen, I'm

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calling out of work.

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Speaker 2: I got something going on. I can't talk to the

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LC home.

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Speaker 1: And I remember, though, Frank and I going partners though

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after that, and the reason why we went partners. He

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was working fifty hours a week at Resorts International. I

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think Resorts is still a casino in Atlantic City. He

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was working there, and when he was working there, he's like,

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we can do some stuff and sports together, and you

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can use my two hundred and fifty thousand I.

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Speaker 2: Have for sports.

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Speaker 1: I used his bankroll to build up my bankroll. How

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lucky is that? How lucky is a guy you met?

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Because if a guy got up from machine, sat down there,

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and I was able to learn advantage sports bettings. I

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went on to write for a site called the RX

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dot com which was called The Prescription, and the owner

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of the site gave me a bunch of money to

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write an articles for him. By the way, I barely

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graduated high school. I don't right, I have no journalists degree.

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It's just all streets more, it's common sense. It's just

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all things that I've done on my playbook here. So yeah,

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by the way, I see Richie Wilkom the back here.

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You work for the casino. Don't be repeating on it

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this stuff to Steven's yeah, because I'm looking to rip

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your eyes out too over the whole casino. But anyway,

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Frank's changed my life. Bonuses back then were the big thing, Randy.

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Were you involved in the nineties or no.

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Speaker 5: Late nineties, late nineties, that's when I started ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: You would send money from the sports books. You could

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press a button and literally do a transfer to the

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sports but from one sports book to the other transfer

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over ten thousand, they give you a two thousand dollars bonus,

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or better yet, they would give you one hundred percent

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bonus if you've rolled it over seven times. There was

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some sick ones SPIAU, who's going to be He's going

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to be in the He's not here, right, I hope not.

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But Spiro is going to be in the Hall of Fame.

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On Friday Night. Spiro had the best bonus ever. He

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had a ten thousand dollars bonus. Send him ten thousand,

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and the book was called bet Jamaica. He bought a

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book called bet Jamaica off of these guys in Curis.

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How I believe Well, no, actually I think they were.

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I think they were the one guy, Marty was in

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Curis How I believe so. But yeah, they have a

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ten thousand dollars bonus. Just send over ten to bet Jamaica.

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I swear, I don't know how I did this. I

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pressed the button I sent it from this They were

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in the same office because he owned the Greek dot

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com bet Jamaica.

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Speaker 2: Same office. Took ten out of my Beck Greek account

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put it into bet Jamaica.

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Speaker 1: I had twenty thousand. They doubled the bonus right in

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the same building. The bonuses were the biggest thing back then.

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Speaker 5: Mansion had a free free bet. Lose a thousand, they

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give you back a thousand on the Steelers that first

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opening game back in the day, I did one with

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bet Maker.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if bet Maker wasn't cure us how And.

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Speaker 5: You could do five sign ups with them and get

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up to five thousand dollars. All the other people had

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to do was put like two thousand sign ups, so

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that that was another good one as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just mentioned Mansion. Here's a perfect example about

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sports Looger Mansion.

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Speaker 2: We're rich.

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Speaker 1: They were pretty rich guys from New York. So Mansion

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opens up and they decide to take the NBA totals.

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Frank taught me this. I didn't Frank taught me this.

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Speaker 2: He's like, Bill, what they're doing is very wrong.

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Speaker 1: They had this is like the year two thousand, the

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total on the game's two hundred.

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Speaker 2: It's fifty each quarter. That's what they said. That's not true.

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The first quarter.

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Speaker 1: Should be fifty two, Steve something like that. Fifty two.

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They had fifty on every quarter. I bet every single

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one over and like built up a bankroll from that,

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I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: And they were a credit shop.

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Speaker 1: Somehow I got credit there, but using Frank's money post

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up at a lot of those places. There was places

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in Australia can bet, and there was a couple of

475
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different sports books there. That's how I built up a

476
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,839
bankroll doing that stuff. And just like with now with

477
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DraftKings and FanDuel and stuff, if you have a casino

478
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,480
host right now, a host on one of those sites,

479
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,000
they're still offering. One of our friends just got a

480
00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:16,720
twenty five thousand dollars bonus. He put in twenty five thousand,

481
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,640
he lost it. They matched the twenty five thousand again.

482
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This is I'll just say it's DraftKings. So if so,

483
00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:26,519
if you have a sucker account, just or not a

484
00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:28,519
sucker account, that's the wrong word. If you have a

485
00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:31,759
losing account, there's nothing wrong with emailing a DraftKings or

486
00:20:31,839 --> 00:20:34,240
FanDuel and saying, hey, I just lost two grand, it

487
00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:35,839
just lost five grand. What can you do for me?

488
00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:37,400
Is there a host here? Because I can go over

489
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to Fandel, I can go over to MGM.

490
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Speaker 10: Just ask.

491
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Speaker 2: It can't hurt you asking. But that just happened with

492
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those books. So guys.

493
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Speaker 1: I want to bring up a couple guys to talk

494
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about their business, which I'm actually learning more about every day.

495
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The first I'm gonna have is one of our sponsors

496
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on the show. We're gonna come up here. Come on up,

497
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wager Wire, come on up with us and introduce yourself

498
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to everybody and tell us.

499
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Speaker 2: How you know. I'm I don't like parlays.

500
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,039
Speaker 1: They're really bad sucker bets, but that's what the books

501
00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:12,200
make their money out fifty percent. Some of them are

502
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,960
reporting more than that, so I don't look at anything

503
00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:16,079
parlay related.

504
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Speaker 2: So I do, but no kidding, but can't even do it.

505
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Speaker 1: No, but now that I noticed that wager wire had

506
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some of the stuff on their site, I actually literally

507
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text Matt and said, Matt, this is a real thing,

508
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So tell tell the people what you you know you

509
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can do. If you ever have a site one of

510
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these sites, you'll see they offer buyouts. They're total sucker bets.

511
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Buy out for this or that. I've talked too much, Sorry, guys, No, no, well.

512
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Speaker 6: Thanks for bringing me on. Zach Doctor with wager Wire

513
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co founder CEO.

514
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Speaker 11: Yeah, so wager wire is a secondary market for bets,

515
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so a lot of people come to us when they

516
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have a big parlay. They're one leg away from winning

517
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,680
a million dollars. Their cash out off or your mentioning

518
00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:54,920
bill is just trash. Usually right, it's fifty cents on

519
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,279
the dollar. Actually, one of our most popular products is

520
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just our calculator if you want to just see what

521
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your bet is worth compared to the cash out and

522
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then yeah, we put up on the market. Buyers come in.

523
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You know people here in this room might want to

524
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be buyers. You can buy that ticket. Basically you have

525
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to beat the cash out offer. Uh, there's one or

526
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,200
two legs left. You can hedge it out. You can

527
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,240
guarantee yourself ten fifteen percent usually. But yeah, we have

528
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a couple of monsters on here. If you want to

529
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see a couple of our biggest ones.

530
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Speaker 6: We just got in.

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have one shows? All right?

532
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Speaker 11: Well, actually one better has two different crazy bets on

533
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our site.

534
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Speaker 6: They're both five leg parlays. Three of the legs have

535
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hit already.

536
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Speaker 11: So they got Florida to win n c Double a

537
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March Madness, They got the Thunder to win the NBA Finals,

538
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and then they got Edmonton Oilers to make it to

539
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the finals. So the first ticket will win. It will

540
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win a million dollars, seven figure payout. The last two

541
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legs are the Yankees to make the.

542
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Speaker 1: World Series, to make it, not to win make the

543
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,799
World Series, that's even tough.

544
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Speaker 2: Tough, that's not happening.

545
00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:53,079
Speaker 6: And then the Lions to win the Super Bowl. That's

546
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I don't really think the Lions are going to win

547
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it either.

548
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Speaker 11: Division he bet one hundred bucks to win a million

549
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right now, our calculator, given the odds I think on

550
00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:04,480
the Lions are like plus one thousand Yankees is plus

551
00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:07,960
five hundred to make the World Series. It's worth fifteen grand.

552
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,759
And so a lot of times these guys don't have

553
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the capital to hedge it. You know, they're facing a

554
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decision where that could be life changing money to somebody,

555
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and they don't have really any out. So what wager

556
00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:19,880
wired does you know? We do more than just the

557
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,119
secondary market too. We're really just trying to help you

558
00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:24,759
after the bettest place get the most value out of it.

559
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But the same guy has another one with the same

560
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three legs hit. This one will win five hundred and

561
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fifty five thousand, but it has the Lions still as

562
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the winner. As the Super Bowl winner, but the other

563
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leg instead of the Yankees, it's Dodgers to.

564
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Speaker 6: Win the World Series.

565
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Speaker 8: Now we're talking.

566
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Speaker 11: Yeah, John, you should buy this one. This one's worth

567
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about eleven thousand. As long as the Dodgers win it,

568
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you're in the money.

569
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Speaker 6: You could sell the lion's.

570
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Speaker 2: Leg before it's over. Great, great question.

571
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the cash out. I don't know there's

572
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a cash out on the million dollar one. On the

573
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five hundred and fifty five K, it's about six thousand,

574
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and the current value, based on the odds of the

575
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two legs remaining, would be more like eleven thousand.

576
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Speaker 1: Okay, so six thousand the site that you're betting an

577
00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:06,799
I'm to offer a wager wire it's up for gonna

578
00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:08,039
be up for less than eleven though.

579
00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So like the.

580
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Speaker 11: Happy medium is right, Yeah, you could just knew better today.

581
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,920
You could just place a parley on the Daughters and

582
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the lions. So that's kind of the ceiling of what

583
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,559
it could trade for, right, because otherwise why would you

584
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buy it from this guy?

585
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Speaker 6: You just place a new one.

586
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Speaker 11: But then so in between that those two prices of

587
00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:28,599
basically laying twelve k would be the placing it out

588
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,960
the sports book versus the cash out price is kind

589
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of the.

590
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Speaker 6: Floor you have to beat.

591
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Speaker 11: So there's a big window, you know, it's forty percent

592
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,680
margin in there in between basically, So wager Wire lives

593
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,720
in that, in that middle ground where it's a win

594
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win on both sides.

595
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Speaker 6: A lot of times their buyers will just buy that

596
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and hedge it out.

597
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Speaker 11: Sometimes they'll you know, be willing to take some positional

598
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,920
risk on the other side. But I think, John, you

599
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,720
should buy that daughter's one. That one feels right up

600
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your alley home.

601
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Speaker 2: What do you guys think? I mean, yeah, lions, that's

602
00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:56,880
not happening. That's gonna be tough. Yeah happen.

603
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,079
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

604
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Speaker 2: It could be some hedging, right.

605
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Speaker 1: You know, Steve I was on air doing a podcast

606
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with and brought their thing up with John. When the

607
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,759
podcast was over, I said, wait a minute, I'm not reading.

608
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Speaker 2: We're all air now.

609
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,039
Speaker 1: I called them. I said, listen, the MAT's not right here.

610
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Something's wrong. You're telling me this. I said, I could

611
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,240
lock up like six thousand dollars right now by buying this,

612
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,119
and they actually said yes. So I'm surprised they didn't

613
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,279
have someone in there, you know, like trying to. I

614
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,799
mean some of the value is sometimes people don't even

615
00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:57,440
know the bids that the offers they put up. I

616
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,000
don't look at anything partly related. This opened my eyes

617
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,519
eyes to that a little bit. And thanks for your

618
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:05,359
question though, Steve. Steve, by the way, Steve Diana one

619
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,519
of the sharpest guys in the business for years, FATS

620
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,039
is one of the sharpest guys. Been around every single

621
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:14,480
major syndicate. Hope, I'm allowed to say this, you know,

622
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,960
and in and out of jail.

623
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Speaker 2: It is what it is. We're all friends. No, no, but.

624
00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: No, but but Steve, Steve's I remember World Series.

625
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, Poker, you want to get a game, and Steve's

626
00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:32,599
trying to.

627
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: And guys that are trying to get ras games going

628
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:45,000
usually the smarter ones. I've seen a hand him.

629
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Speaker 6: So yeah, so we're I mean, we work with draftings.

630
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 11: We're actually talking about that we have an integrated white

631
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,440
label version of this that we're pitching them to actually

632
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,119
plug right in as a feature in their as ye.

633
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 6: So yeah, like we've never had.

634
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:05,279
Speaker 11: Any problem with them trying to avoid something because it

635
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:07,880
was traded, Like the bet stays in the seller's account

636
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:10,799
and then you know it doesn't actually move unless we're

637
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,079
integrated with them. So it's really like DraftKings is kind

638
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,240
of none the wiser for when it trades when we're

639
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,519
not plugged in. But yes, like I mean, we're trying

640
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:21,200
to get this plug in with them, so it could

641
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,559
be real time settlement, instant transfer, the payout.

642
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,559
Speaker 6: That makes it a lot cleaner for taxes and everything

643
00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:25,920
else too.

644
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:28,839
Speaker 11: But you know we can we can facilitate it outside

645
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:29,759
of the system as well.

646
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: Do you have a hard time dealing with these these

647
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,039
guys with their fancy college degrees that have no common sense? Now,

648
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:38,480
I'm not saying DraftKings in general, all of them, though

649
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,480
they're marketing guys. They're guys that never gambled in their life.

650
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:44,400
I said already if I had a sports book, or

651
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,519
if I had a casino, if I was a casino on,

652
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,720
I would never hire anyone to list lose a paycheck.

653
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,759
I want you, guys, I want my employees to know

654
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:53,359
where to list, to gamble, and what it is to

655
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,359
feel like that you know sucker or something.

656
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: Are you have a hard time getting to them?

657
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: Every casino has levels where they pay, They pay people

658
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,000
to say no, so you don't get to let's say

659
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,759
I'll use here, so well, Derek's so hands on, I

660
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:07,599
can't really use here.

661
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: Let's use a corporation. Let's use the Caesars.

662
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,559
Speaker 1: So you can't get to the guy at Caesar's up

663
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:13,839
top because.

664
00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: He has many levels below him.

665
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: And those people they're petrified to make any decisions that's

666
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,519
going to cost them their jobs. They want to just

667
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,519
steal their paycheck and go home. And they don't want

668
00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:24,960
to be asked any question. God only ask me a

669
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000
question today that can get fired.

670
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: Amen.

671
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: No, So do you have a hard time getting to

672
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,839
the right person at the DraftKings, FanDuel, all these big companies.

673
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you.

674
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 11: Got to work that, work your way up to those

675
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,400
relationships basically. But we've been in this, We've been going

676
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,839
at it for a couple of years and with the

677
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,119
help of you know, kind.

678
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 6: Of folks like you and yeah, other people have been

679
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,799
doing the build relationships.

680
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:44,359
Speaker 2: So tell them how they can find you. You have

681
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,519
the app and that we have an Apple Wager wire.

682
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 11: We're in the app Store and Android and Apple, and

683
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,519
then you can go to our website as well.

684
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,119
Speaker 6: Find us on Twitter. Twitter's our main social account.

685
00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: And how about your actual website.

686
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 7: Is it.

687
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 11: Good?

688
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 6: You can find you know, find me on Twitter to

689
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,640
wage to our.

690
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: CEO, and you're pretty pretty open to answering questions and stuff.

691
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

692
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 11: Absolutely, most people come to us just because they want

693
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,200
to find out, you know, what are my options. You know,

694
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,680
they're not even necessarily there yet to like get to

695
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,960
the selling part and they use the calculator, see what

696
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,880
it's worth, and then we can put it up and

697
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,279
start fielding bids. You want to be a buyer and

698
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:20,920
just like throw some low balls out there see if

699
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,519
someone buyes.

700
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, appreciate it, Thank you, thank It's

701
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,039
a good deal.

702
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:26,599
Speaker 11: No.

703
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: So the next guy I'm bringing up is I have

704
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:31,559
some really qu I don't work with him right now,

705
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:33,240
but I have some questions for them because I've had

706
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,519
some problems in my life getting money to sports books

707
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:39,559
and payment solutions. This is thirty years Senny, can you

708
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:43,240
come on up, Senny Thomas. Edge Boost is his company.

709
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,640
They were one of the sponsors at the World Series and.

710
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: I saw them all over the World Series this year

711
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and Vson I do my VS show.

712
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Speaker 1: I hear you guys on Vson, So you know my

713
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,359
experience with credit cards online and with companies. First of all,

714
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they charge me fees.

715
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Speaker 2: I hate. I ran the money on I don't know

716
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:02,240
if you work with Do you work with betmgm?

717
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Speaker 11: You do?

718
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: I mean I ran the money on bet MGM.

719
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:07,119
Speaker 1: I had to run down to the strip and I

720
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,960
went and looked at like credit card options and stuff,

721
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,759
just because I needed to bet in that minute. Knew

722
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:12,440
it was gonna move and you can bet more at

723
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,119
the counter sometimes, but this particular situation, I wanted to

724
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,960
bet at the app, didn't have the money there. I

725
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,039
looked to payment Solutions and I see they charge you

726
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,240
like three percent or something. Now we'll tell people what

727
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:28,160
you guys do compared to what's out there now any

728
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:29,240
competition wise.

729
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

730
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Speaker 8: So, I mean, first of all, I mean, thank thanks

731
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:32,799
for having us. I mean, bette bash is really kind

732
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:33,640
of our people.

733
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:36,319
Speaker 7: We've really kind of built this entire product from the

734
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,559
ground up with a lot of feedback from the community.

735
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:40,359
And at the end of the day, because I kind

736
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:42,720
of like maybe a show of hands, right, how many

737
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:45,599
people here have been had a bank account frozen or

738
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:47,720
a transaction frozen, been kicked out of the bank.

739
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,799
Speaker 1: I've been throwing to like like like lose your Chase

740
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,799
Chase bank, right, Yeah, they do so many gaming transactions,

741
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:54,119
they just.

742
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely hate it.

743
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Speaker 3: Right.

744
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 7: I mean, at the end of the day, if you

745
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,720
have any gambling transactions, you are, you know, a second

746
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:00,519
class citizen.

747
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:02,039
Speaker 8: It's businesses they don't want.

748
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,279
Speaker 7: And we've heard all kinds of horror stories and the

749
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:06,119
same with like you know, PayPal accounts getting frozen.

750
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,359
Speaker 2: There's no one to communicate with.

751
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 8: So we took the long, painful route.

752
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,799
Speaker 7: You know, it took us about four years, and we've

753
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:16,359
actually spun up an entire bank only for the gaming industry.

754
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,720
So what that means is you sign up with us,

755
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:21,119
you know, you get an FDIs see insured checking account.

756
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:23,319
But what's cool about this is it is one hundred

757
00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:26,160
percent approval for all gambling transactions. This is could be

758
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,200
sports betting and horse racing. You can walk into any consisting.

759
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,559
Speaker 2: So hard to believe one hundred percent approval.

760
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,279
Speaker 7: One hundred percent approval and you can do a quarter

761
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,039
million dollars a day in volume.

762
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: Wow.

763
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 7: And it's the highest debit card limited in history for

764
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,319
any banking product. And the only thing this bank account

765
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:43,319
can do though, is gambling. So we kind of stay

766
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,039
in our lane and we worked with a lot of

767
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:47,039
the regulators to say, hey, this is all we're gonna do,

768
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,759
but we're gonna do it really well. Uh and once

769
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:51,839
you have that bank account, you know, you can keep

770
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:54,799
all these transactions off of your primary checking it's really clean.

771
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,079
We have a lot of great kind of budgeting and

772
00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:00,519
responsible gambling features built into it as well. And then

773
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:02,519
we're really excited to kind of announce that we've been

774
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:05,079
getting a lot of feedback here at bet bash Is.

775
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:06,799
You know, we've been working Actually, Circu has been a

776
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:09,599
phenomenal partner. You know, they have a lot of people. Obviously,

777
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,680
they take a lot of great action, people flying in

778
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:13,720
with you know, two hundred K and you know, and

779
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,319
then their backpacks. Right, So we can kind of help

780
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:20,160
streamline facilitate a lot of those types of transactions. But

781
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,160
not only is it difficult to get money in, right,

782
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,799
but to your point, outside of banking hours, it's pretty

783
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,240
much impossible to access any money. You know, you can

784
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:32,559
walk into you know, any casino, were trying to get

785
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:34,559
money in on on a weekend, you know, on a

786
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,519
Saturday morning for some action on Sunday, it's not a

787
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lot of options.

788
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 8: So we are now the first and only bank right

789
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now in the US.

790
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Speaker 7: It's been approved for real time bank to bank transfers

791
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,640
for gaming, and then coming in October as well, we've

792
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,240
been approved for crypto to USD conversion for gaming as well,

793
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:53,559
and we basically built up.

794
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Speaker 1: Supply Centay, you're the bank though we are a bank. Yeah,

795
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:58,920
I got to be blunt. I just found that this today.

796
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,559
So now you're saying encrypto. Isn't the government petrified of

797
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,200
any of these things happening? Uncle Sam, big brother on

798
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,559
top of you, how did you get this reduction?

799
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:10,799
Speaker 7: It was really painful and I think I had to

800
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:12,920
start dying my hair a little bit. Yeah, I had

801
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,000
two kids along the way as well, you know, last four.

802
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: No, I'm just being serious. I'm just like, how can

803
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:20,400
you get all these things approved? These were so strict.

804
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,480
Now they're trying to charge us taxes on money. Would't

805
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:23,599
to win and here you have.

806
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,519
Speaker 8: It's a great question.

807
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 7: But the real key to this is that we set

808
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:30,440
this up as the first and only limited use checking

809
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,039
account in the US. So yeah, circa for example, you

810
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:35,480
could walk up to the cage with our.

811
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Speaker 8: Car pull out a quarter million bucks. But if you

812
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:38,599
went to the.

813
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:41,519
Speaker 7: Bar the card is declined, so we stay in our lane.

814
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,559
And actually by blocking all of these transactions that are

815
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:48,359
not a ID verified you know, kyced gaming transaction.

816
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,359
Speaker 8: We actually block a lot of the potential money laundering vectors.

817
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,519
Speaker 7: Right. You can't go by gift cars or swipe it

818
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:54,720
as some shady restaurant.

819
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: Yes.

820
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Speaker 7: And the good news too is that if someone steals

821
00:33:57,519 --> 00:33:59,400
your car, the only place they could ever use it

822
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,400
at is an other account that is controlled by you.

823
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 8: It has also been IDE verified.

824
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,039
Speaker 1: I'm looking on this thing, randing Amy. So you guys

825
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:07,319
are paying people back for using the card.

826
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:07,839
Speaker 2: We sure do.

827
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 7: So we make money, right, so every single time that

828
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,559
card is swipe, you know, we generate about one point

829
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:16,239
three percent. That's what pays for card rewards programs, and

830
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,679
we actually do pass through up to a half a

831
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:18,719
percent to our players.

832
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Speaker 2: Let me let me be blump. How do you make money?

833
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 8: Well on the rest of it, right, it's a volume

834
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,440
game for us.

835
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 7: We will have additional fees for some of like the

836
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,360
things around the crypto conversion and such.

837
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean.

838
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,119
Speaker 7: It's it's really just a safe place where you know,

839
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,159
you can kind of sleep a little bit better, you know,

840
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,559
you'll never wake up with some kind of freeze or

841
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:39,159
you know, everyone here has gone through the pain.

842
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 4: Can you deposit cash directly into you or it has to.

843
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:44,079
Speaker 7: Go to your bank first, then to go to your

844
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:45,559
bank versus's That's a great question.

845
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,679
Speaker 2: Is always trying to skip?

846
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: I'm always trying to launder, you know, no kidding, never serious,

847
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,280
stop recording, serious, stop recording.

848
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 7: Okay, but but yeah, you know, we were working really

849
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,079
closely with a lot of the operators now as well,

850
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:01,679
and you know it's you know, whether it's online or offline.

851
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:03,920
I mean, cash access is really the biggest you know,

852
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,159
pain point for.

853
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,159
Speaker 8: Both players but also the operators.

854
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:09,559
Speaker 7: And then you kind of look at the Lambeast community

855
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:11,440
when you know we're doing a lot actually you know

856
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,800
with Circa here, you know, with Changa and a number

857
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,000
of other casinos, and.

858
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 8: It's still eighty percent cash, which is wild.

859
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:20,639
Speaker 7: I mean, this is like the single largest use case

860
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:23,840
for cash left in the entire US economy, and the

861
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,559
main bottlenk has always been banking.

862
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

863
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:29,079
Speaker 5: Plus I saw a little advantage play too. If you

864
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:31,159
sign up for you guys have a little will spin.

865
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,559
I saw it last night at.

866
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Speaker 8: The say it's actually been stopping a lot on the

867
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,360
five hundred.

868
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's right, but never a fear.

869
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: Randy will tell you any kind of bonus so you

870
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,440
could steal, Sonny, how can they find you since edgeboost dot.

871
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 7: Bet if you do use the bet bashed promo code

872
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,719
and sign up and you do started a higher tier

873
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,559
as well, so that I'll give you a higher limits

874
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,480
as well as higher cash back to get started.

875
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 8: But but yeah, you know we're here.

876
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 7: We have a booth here, you know, happy to answer

877
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,199
any more questions.

878
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: But good and Steve has a question. Thanks, we got

879
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:09,000
what Steve that is correct?

880
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 7: No, no, no, so that they're just very good questions.

881
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,440
So this is for US residence for legal US operators. Again,

882
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,000
I mean we got to stay in our lane. There

883
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,239
any dollar that goes, you know, across the border, it

884
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,679
gets quite complicated.

885
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: Well, Senny, thanks for coming on. We appreciate it. Thank you.

886
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate you telling us a couple of things. Steve Physicks,

887
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:30,679
you sent me something. You're right when we do get

888
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:33,639
these bonuses, I learned this from you. When you do

889
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,199
get a bonus, even the little two hundred dollars bonus

890
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:39,440
for five hundred dollars bonus, and yeah, sure, ye sell

891
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,440
your product and walk.

892
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,599
Speaker 2: Out, all right, So it is what it is. We're

893
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:46,480
all you know, it is what it is. Okay.

894
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,119
Speaker 1: So this this guy, this guy must be just like

895
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,079
a college educated, very bright guy, lives in a little hoy.

896
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:54,119
Speaker 2: He must like hate me. I ask him all the

897
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:57,760
critical stuff, all right. So anyway, Steve, you're right.

898
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,559
Speaker 1: When you get these little two hundred dollars booster bonuses,

899
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,519
why should we play them at something plus money that's

900
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:07,679
even a future rather than just bet two hundred on

901
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,719
the aks tonight minus two hundred and let me get

902
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,880
one hundred bucks.

903
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:12,519
Speaker 2: Because if you play it.

904
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 12: Against the spread, you're gonna let's say at eight bonuses,

905
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:17,000
all right, one hundred dollars.

906
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: Eight bonuses, that's.

907
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:20,559
Speaker 8: Gonna be worth four hundred because you're gonna go four and.

908
00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 2: Four probably right, so you're gonna.

909
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 4: Win four to take away your month.

910
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 13: So you're gonna get four hundred dollars. So that eight

911
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,440
hundred bonuses, it's worth fifty cents on the dollar. Well,

912
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,639
let's assume we play some by hundred dollars. Let's say

913
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:33,320
you play some threeteen parlays. Right, you're gonna go and

914
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,559
play eight of them, all right. Normally we don't like

915
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:36,000
to say.

916
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: Parlays, but now parleys, yes, so we go one and seven.

917
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,239
That's what we're supposed to do.

918
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 13: And in fact, you could play every combination of.

919
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 12: The If there's three different games and you're gonna go

920
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,719
one and seven, well guess what you're gonna get back

921
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,239
six hundred instead of four hundred. So you're gonna get

922
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,000
seventy five cents on the dollar versus fifty cents on

923
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:55,360
the dollars.

924
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,119
Speaker 2: So think about this.

925
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,039
Speaker 13: If you get a thousand dollars bonus, that's like you're

926
00:37:59,079 --> 00:37:59,719
gonna get seven.

927
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 12: Fifty bucks back instead of five hundred dollars. Has nothing

928
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,320
to do with handicapping. The handicap work.

929
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:04,519
Speaker 11: They'll lick.

930
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,079
Speaker 13: So always play like a big money line.

931
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 12: You got to take big mine of my dog, play

932
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,119
for the boy.

933
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: So that's good.

934
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: That's good to know though, because most people would just say, hey,

935
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:16,400
I'm betting my two hundred dollars partly on the end

936
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,360
my two hundred dollars bonus on the anks tonight because

937
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,039
they should win their minus two to one.

938
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,079
Speaker 2: So that's good to know. Onto a couple other things.

939
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,599
Question but who else? Of course.

940
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 8: The whole point.

941
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:42,599
Speaker 3: You get a chance to push, you might get more combinations.

942
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,039
Speaker 2: More interesting, interesting, and one more if you like, you

943
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:44,320
bet your balls off on.

944
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 13: Some teezer and take minus seven down much fine, you're like,

945
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,719
please God, Denver.

946
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: Wine and I thought them and survived.

947
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 13: Or Also, what's it natural to play the Titans with

948
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,079
a bonus?

949
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 3: Right?

950
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,119
Speaker 5: So you just kind of play that back on the.

951
00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 12: Titans plus twenty five?

952
00:38:59,119 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: So think about it.

953
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 13: If your Survivor pick on Denver goes off the flames boom,

954
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,320
well at least you got a little consolation with that.

955
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: On the other on the dog, Steve, why you're standing up,

956
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,519
don't sit while you're standing up.

957
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: Sorry, I want.

958
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: You to just tell people because I love that strategy

959
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,480
for Survivor.

960
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,119
Speaker 2: Can you just tell him about the.

961
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:22,599
Speaker 1: Eagles first first week what they should do or listen,

962
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:24,159
We're all going to get in Survivor no matter what.

963
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:28,920
But why should we get more entries if something happens? Yeah,

964
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,920
come up, of course, get on video. We're not No,

965
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:36,280
it's actually a very good strategy. And I tell you

966
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,800
what I now, I tell Frankie, my buddy, Frankie, Myrtle

967
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,719
Beach he's got so much gamble to my said, listen,

968
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,400
this is a good strategy. I don't even know this happened.

969
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,920
I sent him the strategy. He goes, hey, you're out

970
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,480
of your mind. I'm getting ten entries no matter what.

971
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,800
But because he's just a gambler, but go ahead, Steve,

972
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,360
tell a story.

973
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 10: So it's fantastic that Circa and other shops let you

974
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,079
enter up until Saturday for Survivor, but the game start

975
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:59,280
on Thursday. So think about that. If you want to

976
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:04,400
play survive and you want to optimize your entries, you

977
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,960
really want to pass post the information what happens if

978
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,360
Philly beats Dallas boom. Now you're gonna have like four

979
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,400
or five thousand people, assuming like twenty twenty five percent

980
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,760
of the people are gonna take Philly right and they're

981
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,639
one to oh, you're oh to oh, they're ahead of you.

982
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,599
Speaker 2: So you're now paying a rake. Survivors a lot of fun.

983
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 10: You still might want to enter, but recognize you are

984
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,800
paying a rake, not because that circa is charging you,

985
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,119
but basically you're behind the eight ball because there's a

986
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:36,639
bunch of people who are already through to week two. However,

987
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,880
should Philly lose to Dallas. Now you're gonna have like

988
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:44,000
four five thousand people all put in one thousand dollars

989
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,079
and it all goes into the pool. It's a fantastic overlay.

990
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,519
So if you're trying to think like how many entries

991
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:50,519
should I have in survivors?

992
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: Should I have three? Should I have six? Well, if

993
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,400
Dallas wins, you should have ten.

994
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 10: That's gonna be the best possible usage of your money

995
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:00,719
because you're gonna have like a twenty percent over. But

996
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:04,400
if Philly wins, pump the brakes and probably go clauses.

997
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, now you would think like,

998
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,639
look at look at the Dallas line today.

999
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,599
Speaker 2: A couple six is popped up there, so there's six

1000
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:13,119
and a half. There's even one seven.

1001
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,639
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the live screen, there's a couple of

1002
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,320
Philadelphia doesn't have to beat Dallas.

1003
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: As we know.

1004
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,519
Speaker 1: Last year, look what happened uh Cincinnati first week? I

1005
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:22,840
think there were seven to seven and a half point

1006
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,840
favorite as we are, Yeah, there was a by by

1007
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:29,360
what you know, someone the other day told me by

1008
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:29,760
was it?

1009
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,599
Speaker 2: By week five? Ninety six percent was out of the pool.

1010
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,679
That's unbelievable. I don't remember that you're welcome to stay

1011
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:36,079
if you want.

1012
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,639
Speaker 5: You're gonna add the phasis strategy to a lot of

1013
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:42,360
people are gonna rebuy if Philly loses as well, so

1014
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:43,199
that'll add.

1015
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:44,159
Speaker 2: We didn't want to tell him that.

1016
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,679
Speaker 1: No, no, I honestly, it is a good strategy, like

1017
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:49,679
like Steve says, to go to that.

1018
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: I just thought it was pretty good.

1019
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:53,639
Speaker 1: Now, this is a shocking thing that that just came

1020
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:54,519
out that I was reading.

1021
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: Do you know Nevada leads the.

1022
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,679
Speaker 1: Country in unemployment zero point five percent out of work.

1023
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,639
Speaker 2: I had no idea.

1024
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: I thought our economy, even though we had a slow July,

1025
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:09,800
our economy's booming. There's no one taking up collection buckets

1026
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,039
for these casinos. They're literally they have made one percent

1027
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:16,960
more year over year gambling wise, but they're down double

1028
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,119
digit ten eleven, twelve, fifteen year. Heard different things, but

1029
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,400
I didn't know that Nevada was down on We were

1030
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,960
the number one unemployment rate in the country.

1031
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,639
Speaker 2: Is that because they're gambling?

1032
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, is that because according to what I'm reading

1033
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:33,039
here and this is a really good site, this is

1034
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,519
casino dot Org. I got a lot of good stories

1035
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:38,320
off there. This story came from there. Good, there's some

1036
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,960
really good guys. I just didn't know that we were

1037
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,679
that bad economy wise. I didn't realize that Richie left.

1038
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,039
Richie Wilke left, he's out.

1039
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:48,519
Speaker 2: We can talk about circa now.

1040
00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: No, no, Richie, Richie's been around. I've known Richie twenty

1041
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,639
five years. I wanted to know how long he was

1042
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,280
in town. I didn't know you, not that I want

1043
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,079
to talk about a bad thing. But there was a

1044
00:42:57,159 --> 00:42:59,239
roof fire. It's an hour the other day. Did you

1045
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,559
know about that roof fired? To harr evacuated the most

1046
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:05,920
of it was quickly a sting extinguished, but they evacuated

1047
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,639
a lot of the building. Now, this just happened over

1048
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:10,079
at the Cromwell too. There was a fire at the Cromwell.

1049
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,760
But of course now they have sprinklers and stuff, so

1050
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,960
they got the people out. But it reminded me of

1051
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,119
something that probably almost everyone in this room won't know

1052
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,639
or remember about because it happened before us.

1053
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,639
Speaker 2: But it happened in nineteen eighty. There was a big

1054
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,480
fire here at MGM Grand Oh big yeah, you know, yeah, okay,

1055
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,519
I feel like my dad was there? Oh was your

1056
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:32,320
dad actually there?

1057
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:32,519
Speaker 1: Think?

1058
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:32,679
Speaker 13: So?

1059
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, well, what was there? I seen your dad

1060
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,039
there on a video.

1061
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 4: That was when MGM was was where the Bally's is

1062
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,840
are now the horses now horseshop.

1063
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: I've seen your dad on a great video there with

1064
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,159
Muhammad Ali and Dean Martin on.

1065
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: The roast roast. So I've seen that, so I know

1066
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,440
they used to do the roast in that building.

1067
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,519
Speaker 1: But nineteen eighty at MGM, you know these things they

1068
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:52,320
want to sweep on the road.

1069
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,119
Speaker 2: Don't want to talk about this stuff. Now, eighty five

1070
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,960
people were killed inside the casino. I didn't know that

1071
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:00,079
eighty five people, like, no one even knows about that.

1072
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,559
Speaker 1: But I just went back to that fire to see what,

1073
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,519
how did that possibly happen? No sprinklers in the casino

1074
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,760
except in the casino cage.

1075
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. Money, that's unbelievable. Just protect the money. It's unbelievable.

1076
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 5: I rerather one in twenty ten. I know if you

1077
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,559
guys remember the.

1078
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:21,599
Speaker 2: Money, Carlo right on people, I was intense.

1079
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: I said, if it was it would have been a

1080
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,119
windy day that day, it would have been real bad.

1081
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:28,639
The whole strip might have lit up. If if that

1082
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:29,239
wouldn't have.

1083
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 9: Been Yeah, this incident that was one I remember.

1084
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: But since then, this incident that happened in nineteen eighty

1085
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:40,159
literally led to the reformation of the whole safety code

1086
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:42,440
and sprinklers now everywhere.

1087
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: But I did not know until I've seen this a horrifire.

1088
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: I thought, like a couple people died eighty five, that

1089
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,079
giant news. I just thought it was, you know, not

1090
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:54,679
that I had to get try to be, you know,

1091
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,719
bring the show down. Also, Arizona, I find Arizona just amazing.

1092
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:06,639
Arizona Chris Cris which was offshore for years. Chris is

1093
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:10,440
now legal in Arizona. One thing, and I'm happy. I'm

1094
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,960
happy for them. I like that brand back East, it's

1095
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,119
called Prime sports Book. I like those guys. You know,

1096
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:18,079
they've been around for a while, and I like they

1097
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:20,119
take on all comers. They don't throw out people. They're

1098
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,239
not like the other sports books that will limit you.

1099
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,280
They'll learn off you and and literally take your bet

1100
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,360
and move the lines. But the Arizona Department of Gaming

1101
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:34,079
this week has launched the first statewide public education campaign

1102
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:39,199
to protect consumers from a legal gambling risk from offshore

1103
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,719
sports books. I just can't believe, like Arizona's protecting. They're

1104
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,880
they're going after the sports books offshore.

1105
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: They have a ton of their own sports books there.

1106
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:53,039
Speaker 1: And I read about this thing about protecting kids and

1107
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:56,320
protect Listen, I'm the one that tells it like it is.

1108
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,840
Get myself in trouble A lot costs myself sponsors at Bunny.

1109
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:01,440
I want to tell right now, if they didn't have

1110
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:05,679
to talk about the gambling with the kids and protecting

1111
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,679
people and stuff. I do it every week and all

1112
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:10,559
my show, so I talk about stuff like that. It's

1113
00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:13,480
just when I read this stuff, it's just it infuriates me.

1114
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:13,639
Speaker 13: Though.

1115
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: Now you want to go after what about looking at

1116
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,280
your own state and all the sports But I'm not

1117
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,599
saying Chris, but you know they have DraftKings fans, all

1118
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:21,599
the big sports books are there. But yet they want

1119
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:23,880
to have a national campaign to go after sports books.

1120
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:26,559
Let me tell you, guys about Randy and I. So

1121
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:28,159
I told you about Randy and I. We you know

1122
00:46:28,159 --> 00:46:30,480
we're professional betters. I want to ask Randy Grand do

1123
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:32,119
you have anything for I didn't know this is a

1124
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:34,440
cold question here, have any futures? What do you like

1125
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,400
in the NFL this year?

1126
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 5: I haven't pulled a trigger. I'm still waiting for a

1127
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,280
you know, preseason of course, I you know some of

1128
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,280
the rsws.

1129
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: I've looked at regular season wins.

1130
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've looked at, you know, some of the

1131
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,440
different divisions. I got kind of you know, my top

1132
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,079
four teams in each division. And you know, I talked

1133
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:53,079
to you that one about kind of like the Bears

1134
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:55,039
under I haven't bet it yet, but.

1135
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: That's one that we bet. That's funny.

1136
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,639
Speaker 1: I bet the Bears on you know, but you could

1137
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:02,320
wait with the Bears because in this town everyone loves

1138
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,360
to bet the Bears, Chicago team, even the Cubs, but

1139
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,400
they loved so you can get some people come in

1140
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:09,159
last minute to sign up for circles, sign up for

1141
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,119
and also do the bet on the Bears to win

1142
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:13,679
the Super Bowl. I always like to have a ticket

1143
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:16,519
to bring home. Well, you have no futures then for

1144
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:18,440
us right now, but you're looking at the Bears under

1145
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:20,360
which I actually did get the bet the Bears.

1146
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,599
Speaker 5: Kind of like the Vikings maybe to win the division.

1147
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:23,960
That might be a little contrarian.

1148
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:26,519
Speaker 2: Yes, that's not that's actually and you know.

1149
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 5: Detroit second and then the Packers third. But sill that goes.

1150
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:33,000
But I got, you know, top four in each division there,

1151
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:36,360
you know, the or the NFC West is kind of

1152
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:41,119
you know with the Stafford injury. Can't really I might

1153
00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:44,239
be contrary against the Rams there some people like them.

1154
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,000
San Francisco's got a very easy schedule. I could see

1155
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,920
them bouncing back. I could see Arizona being surprise team

1156
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,320
in that division and then Seattle on the bottom.

1157
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: So I actually went over to Westgate last week and

1158
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,880
bet Rams not to make the playoffs after the Stafford

1159
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,159
information taking the dollars seventy I.

1160
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 4: Think or sty can can you acknowledge in front of

1161
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,559
all these nice people that the Broncos are going to

1162
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:08,320
win the Super Bowl?

1163
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: Can you do that? Can you do it? And that's

1164
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:11,159
Joe Public.

1165
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:16,119
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll just clip this up super Bowl time.

1166
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 5: I do have the Broncos finishing first.

1167
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: Ah wow, Broncos really thumbs down out there, Broncos.

1168
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 5: Some of US Charger News losing their left tackle. That's

1169
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,840
a bad loss for them, and then trying to think

1170
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,000
of the other team in the division. But I see

1171
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,239
them being last. Yeah, the Raiders being the last.

1172
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: There Fez anything and any future is still available, anything

1173
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,559
that that that can gives the people.

1174
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,559
Speaker 2: Is that still out there? Okay? So Stafford under.

1175
00:48:54,559 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 9: That's a kiosk bed, right, yeah, well you got.

1176
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,199
Speaker 2: What are you taking there?

1177
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: That's yeah, great, great great?

1178
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:19,679
Speaker 5: Anybody else had any opinions out there? NFL everybody argue

1179
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,440
your opinions, but there.

1180
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I wanted to lastly talk about my buddy Scott.

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Here is proxy service and uh, you know, as you

1182
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don't even know, I talked about you on the show

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last week and I was telling like, uh that we

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were in.

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Speaker 2: We do our show at Westgate.

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Speaker 1: So we're at Westgate doing the show and there was

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a proxy service there, which they're very good. Yeah, they're

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very But then I mentioned his proxy service. I don't

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know if anyone could be as in depth focused on

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not making a mistake, and I think that would be

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the number one thing with a proxy service. I'd be

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so afraid. And I asked those those people that were

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that were running the proxy I'm forget, I'm sorry, I

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forgot their name, husband and wife or not husband and wife.

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They're just a guy and a girl that they run.

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They owned the service, and they were saying I was like,

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all these employees, you got, how do you trust him

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to put all these picks in every week and they

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say they don't. They put all the picks in, Scott.

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Now are you putting all the picks in? Not your wife?

1201
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You're and it'll be fine if your wife are. I'm

1202
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just asking so you do because I know the way

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you are focused on things. And what's the name of

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the service again, VHP proxy? You're outside there my wife right?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: So that's just another good, really good proxy service. I

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also want to mention someone I've been around for thirty

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years here, Heritage Heritage sports dot dot eu. They've been

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around for years and they reduced juice and one hundred

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percent bonus right now, Guys, I really appreciate guys of ladies.

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A lot of females here.

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Speaker 2: I was just going to see that, Yeah, there's a lot.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, have you noticed more and

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more ladies in the sports book at the window, at

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the counters three or three or four here and there?

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Speaker 1: And to be real blunt, it's great and you want

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to start with this stuff.

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Speaker 2: This is why he wears these shirts.

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Speaker 6: This guy, this guy, it's a large crack. It's a

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large you.

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Speaker 2: Want, is what it is. It's okay, it's okay, but.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, we really appreciate all you coming out. Lots of

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females in the audience today. Guys, there's a lot of

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different things to do with bat Bash. We really appreciate

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your time and your effort coming out here and staying

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out here with us today.

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Speaker 2: It means a lot to me. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Thanks everybody. Thanks are done.