Speaker 1: Football.
Speaker 2: We got lots of football to talk about. That's why
Speaker 2: we're doing the show even though I'm supposed to be
Speaker 2: on vacation.
Speaker 1: Kelly can I can? I go on one of my
Speaker 1: patented rants. If we didn't do the show every time,
Speaker 1: you won't go on vacation, there'd be like three episodes
Speaker 1: a year. I mean, you you have to do the
Speaker 1: show when you're on vacation. When would we do the show?
Speaker 2: Well, I thought you're gonna I thought there was like
Speaker 2: a rant coming, and you just made all.
Speaker 1: Right, fine, I'll rant. I mean, I just think that
Speaker 1: if you you're always somewhere, you can't say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this this weekend, we can't do the show.
Speaker 1: When would we ever do the show? What?
Speaker 2: You're not gonna say anything?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: I I often move the show dates around for travel
Speaker 2: purposes and usually try not to do them when I'm
Speaker 2: somewhere else, But right now I'm in a Ruba with
Speaker 2: Ariel and I could not up this free trip. So
Speaker 2: here we are.
Speaker 1: I got a question before we hit record, I think
Speaker 1: before he record, hope, before he record, you were saying
Speaker 1: to our producers Johnny Hoilglan and Louis to Nophrio that
Speaker 1: you and Ariel Ariel Epstein very cute girl as well.
Speaker 1: You guys have not been getting hit on at bars
Speaker 1: by guys in Ruba. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: We don't get hit on by guys period. I think
Speaker 3: pople realize this. So okay. So Brett and I've been
Speaker 3: playing this new game.
Speaker 2: It's like a relationship talking point game and you draw
Speaker 2: like some really crazy cards, like you could draw like
Speaker 2: some really crazy cards. And one of them was like,
Speaker 2: how would you react if I cheated on you? And
Speaker 2: I made a joke about, well there's something I don't meaning.
Speaker 3: To tell you, and he's like, I hate you. You're
Speaker 3: an asshole.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the reason I can make that joke is because
Speaker 2: in real life I think I'm just some too big
Speaker 2: of a bitch.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: As must as that resting bitch face when we go out.
Speaker 2: But like I will say this, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be approached. I mean some guy recognized me the table
Speaker 2: the other night. I was nice to him his wife.
Speaker 2: I'm not a bitch, but like I've always been, like
Speaker 2: even when I was single, Like if I wanted someone,
Speaker 2: I just pursued it.
Speaker 3: Shocker that I was, but.
Speaker 1: You are the You are the hunter, not the hunt.
Speaker 1: That is your personality type.
Speaker 2: Right, If there's a guy at a bar that I'm
Speaker 2: interested in, I'm going to talk to him, probably before
Speaker 2: he talks to me.
Speaker 1: So you're you, So you don't never get approach. I
Speaker 1: see now, you never get approached at the bar because
Speaker 1: you've already approached the guy.
Speaker 2: It's too n I don't approach at the bar because
Speaker 2: I don't go out in the wild, and like, I
Speaker 2: just it's just not it's just not who I am.
Speaker 2: I can't explain it, but I I guarantee Ariel and
Speaker 2: I are just sitting there mingling with one of us
Speaker 2: one are like ourselves or like I made friends with
Speaker 2: the seventy year old couple the other night at the bar.
Speaker 3: That's who I hang out with on vacation, random people.
Speaker 1: It's just strange to me.
Speaker 2: She's with her grandparents. We can't hit on her.
Speaker 1: It's just strange. Like there's two cute girls at a bar.
Speaker 1: They're watching football. You're probably yelling at the TV. You're
Speaker 1: probably yelling at Ariel. You're probably yelling at everyone, right
Speaker 1: and no one. Maybe it's because you're yelling at everybody.
Speaker 1: Maybe that, and maybe I figured out the answer. Maybe
Speaker 1: you're just yelling at everybody so nobody wants to talk
Speaker 1: to you. Is that Probably?
Speaker 2: I can't explain it other than it's for the best.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, No, it is for the best. It definitely
Speaker 1: is for the best. I'm just surprised.
Speaker 2: Find me a twenty two dollars Margarita at the hygott Okay,
Speaker 2: anybody that's I don't want to pay twenty two dollars
Speaker 2: for margerite at the high end, but I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to buy anyone either, And then we have to have
Speaker 2: the awkward small talk and then I have to tell
Speaker 2: you that I have a boyfriend.
Speaker 3: It just just don't, just don't. It's for the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. How's h How
Speaker 1: I feel like Ariel's been down there for the better
Speaker 1: part of a month that she.
Speaker 3: Okays she has if she kicked me out on the patio.
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting out here sweating, as you guys can see,
Speaker 2: because she is inside in the nice ac because she
Speaker 2: said her show is more important than this one, and.
Speaker 1: She when you're when you're on vacation for that long,
Speaker 1: I'm a working guy. I'm a working bloke. When you're
Speaker 1: on vacation for that long, you ever, like take a
Speaker 1: day off from the partying.
Speaker 2: Every single day that we've been here, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: I'm asking. I mean, you're on vacation, you have to.
Speaker 1: She's been down there for two weeks. She's drinking every
Speaker 1: day for two weeks.
Speaker 2: I would have to ask her, But she's drunk every
Speaker 2: day with me, So I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1: She's a young kid. Though, she's a young kid, so.
Speaker 2: She probably yesterday I was in a world of her,
Speaker 2: a world of her, but I suckered, like have a
Speaker 2: pina colada at lunch, like gather yourself, film bad on it.
Speaker 3: And then we had to go to a wine tasting.
Speaker 1: Isn't that a little extra sugary?
Speaker 2: I mean that's idea, right, So what happens? What do
Speaker 2: you get all screwed up when you're hungover? It's your
Speaker 2: blood sugar levels, it's your liver function, it's all these things,
Speaker 2: and the last thing you want is alcohol. Well, those
Speaker 2: little crappy frozen peanut clattas are a lot of sugar,
Speaker 2: so it's gonna give you a little fake boost and
Speaker 2: it's just an enough alcohol to tell your body it's
Speaker 2: okay to get back into the groove.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that's a that's good vacation one oh one
Speaker 1: from the Perma vacationer Kelly and Vegas. So take notes, kids,
Speaker 1: How did you do last week college and pro football?
Speaker 1: I don't really remember. I don't remember hearing from you
Speaker 1: very much because you were I guess you were in Aruba.
Speaker 2: Yeah, last week was outside of Miszoo. Miszoo was awful.
Speaker 2: What a terrible pick by me last week?
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Oh yeah, I forgot about.
Speaker 2: That bad game, so it was a bad pick on
Speaker 2: my part. I also liked Wisconsin. Let's see what else
Speaker 2: I liked last week. I liked Wisconsin. They won outright,
Speaker 2: I did not at them. You did win as a
Speaker 2: double digit underdog. I also liked wake Forest Stanford at
Speaker 2: least covered. I liked Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I had a really good weekend.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Then we went to the NFL where teasers did really
Speaker 2: well and everything else sucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Weird NFL week for the book. So we we
Speaker 1: had a terrific morning. We did great in the morning.
Speaker 1: Of course. The highlight was Miami beating Buffalo, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: say speak Carolina. Miami won that game pretty easily. Actually,
Speaker 1: the only game in the morning that we really got
Speaker 1: hurt on was Baltimore beating Minnesota. We didn't really point
Speaker 1: it on that game, but it was a great morning
Speaker 1: for us. And then you go to the afternoon. You
Speaker 1: got three games. You got three teams that are all
Speaker 1: a touchdown ish favorite six seven, eight. Not only did
Speaker 1: they all win, they all won just going away, and
Speaker 1: all three games went over the total. And you know
Speaker 1: what the worst part was, It was like we got
Speaker 1: to a point in the risk room on Sunday afternoon
Speaker 1: where all we could root for was one of the
Speaker 1: games to be close enough to justify it being on sound.
Speaker 1: The money. You know, the money's gone. We lost the money.
Speaker 1: Let's just hope that somebody can get it as close
Speaker 1: enough so we can at least show the game on sound.
Speaker 1: Pretty bad, pretty bad. We lost on the Sunday night game.
Speaker 1: We did okay on the Monday night game, Eagles beat
Speaker 1: the Packers. Saw a lot of shark guys on Eagles.
Speaker 2: I I overthought that one. Well, I had so much
Speaker 2: money on Eagles and all those The only team that
Speaker 2: didn't cover I think was Steelers. Was in teasers. So
Speaker 2: I had all these things tied up into the Eagles,
Speaker 2: and I thought, man, Eagles are so square, everybody loves them.
Speaker 2: Down here was Packers plus one. I don't know if
Speaker 2: the west Gate ever got to Packers plus one, but
Speaker 2: I was like, I've got a hedge off. Some of
Speaker 2: this liability not hedge off. Try to middle right Packers.
Speaker 2: Good god, they had so many opportunities just to win
Speaker 2: that game by one through seven. I asked you what
Speaker 2: you guys needed. You said you needed Eagles, But that's
Speaker 2: only because that's how it had booked it all the
Speaker 2: other sports.
Speaker 3: The Packers.
Speaker 1: Is a shameless That is a shameless homer. I mean,
Speaker 1: guess what side we need on against your job?
Speaker 3: Like, you're not supposed to have a fandom, if you're
Speaker 3: like in the risk room.
Speaker 1: You would think, you would think, But look at Jeff
Speaker 1: Jeff Sherman, big Lakers fan, right, I look at look
Speaker 1: at Randy big Yankees fan, big Yankees fan.
Speaker 2: Sounds like you need to find people with less bias
Speaker 2: opinions to work for you.
Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like everybody in this industry has
Speaker 1: like all kinds of biases.
Speaker 2: I don't. I just watched Crack show right there in
Speaker 2: the Super Book yesterday, and Crack is literally like no
Speaker 2: to the Broncos, John Orlando saying yes, and I'm screaming
Speaker 2: no from the mountaintops.
Speaker 3: The Moroccos are not gonna win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Everybody, relax. They're gonna be the Chiefs this week. That's
Speaker 2: gonna be their super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Every time I see Crack, I saw him yesterday in
Speaker 1: the book, he seems so stressed. Do you think you're
Speaker 1: causing Is that what it is? Because I don't remember
Speaker 1: I've known him for a long time. I don't remember
Speaker 1: him always being this like ball of stress. Do you
Speaker 1: think it's you? Is that the term? Is it not
Speaker 1: ball of stress? What is the term? I don't know.
Speaker 1: He seems re Are you causing that? Because I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're the cause of that, would
Speaker 1: you take it easy on him?
Speaker 2: I don't know how I could be his source of stress.
Speaker 2: But I let him just vent on our show, Just
Speaker 2: just let him go off and talk about the bookmakers
Speaker 2: that limited him not named John Murray, and he throws
Speaker 2: all these other bookmakers under the bus by name, and
Speaker 2: then he calls John Hogan's like you gotta edit that out.
Speaker 1: You gotta edit that out.
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, we're gonna call these guys out.
Speaker 2: We gotta let it, we gotta let it fly.
Speaker 1: I like, uh, obviously, you know. I like Bill, I
Speaker 1: like I like most of the Betters around town. But
Speaker 1: there there is a job that we have to do.
Speaker 1: We can't just let people just win forever as much
Speaker 1: as they want. That's not really how it works. I
Speaker 1: think Bill understands that. You know, I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: really blame these people. Plus, you don't know where their
Speaker 1: instructions came from. Do you think that we do you
Speaker 1: think that we have ever been told by somebody above
Speaker 1: us to limit a customer? Of course we have. Yes,
Speaker 1: the answer is yes.
Speaker 3: I think that's where it always comes from.
Speaker 1: Pretty much. Yeah. So I don't know it's you.
Speaker 3: It's not your money.
Speaker 1: No, I mean I've had I've had times where I've
Speaker 1: looked at an account and been like, we need to
Speaker 1: cut this guy back. This this guy's killing us. But
Speaker 1: of course I have, and so is Ed and so
Speaker 1: is Jem.
Speaker 3: You actually kicked people out for that.
Speaker 1: You just know, you kick him out. You kick him
Speaker 1: out when they do something like nefarious like pass.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I know one person that was kicked out, and then
Speaker 2: when you told me the story is why, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's I would have kicked him out.
Speaker 1: No, there's certain things they like to One thing people
Speaker 1: do in our space is like they'll they'll do something
Speaker 1: they know they shouldn't do, and then they'll do it again,
Speaker 1: and then maybe they do it a third time, and
Speaker 1: then they get kicked out and then they go social
Speaker 1: media and cry and it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you guys have the wrong lineup on accident.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done it.
Speaker 3: I set you a text.
Speaker 2: He sent you a text like, yes, listen, I would
Speaker 2: love to bet it against you, But then what are
Speaker 2: you gonna do. You're gonna you're gonna pay me out,
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna say sorry, you're no longer allowed
Speaker 2: to bet here. So I'd rather have the I'd rather
Speaker 2: have the relationship with you to be able to bet
Speaker 2: their long term.
Speaker 1: Just my personal opinion, I'd prefer that we have the relationship.
Speaker 1: What about what do you do you want to talk
Speaker 1: about the Thursday night game?
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't want to talk about it, but
Speaker 2: we made me joff and CT. Sorry they're doing construction
Speaker 2: over there. Me, Joff and CT decided that we were
Speaker 2: going to enter one more Splash Survivor contest. Yeah, one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars guaranteed. There's a huge overlay right now.
Speaker 2: So I have an I have an intrue with Brett
Speaker 2: which is gonna make for great that's gonna be better
Speaker 2: than the relationship cards. Start a fight, and and what
Speaker 2: are your and Brett's picks for week eleven?
Speaker 1: So I know?
Speaker 2: So we went Pats tonight, okay, and he wants to
Speaker 2: go Packers on the road.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Brett is a
Speaker 1: Packers fan. I know. Oh no, Brett, come on, man,
Speaker 1: No no.
Speaker 3: Jameis Winston.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But the Ravens terrify me because they're
Speaker 2: a divisional game on the road. Houston terrifies me because
Speaker 2: they're a divisional.
Speaker 3: Game on the road.
Speaker 2: Steelers are at least a divisional game at home, even
Speaker 2: though they looked absolutely awful last week.
Speaker 1: They do.
Speaker 3: It is hard to beat a team twice in the division.
Speaker 1: I don't know the Giants. The Giants fired their coach, right,
Speaker 1: How did the Giants man? How did the Giants general
Speaker 1: manager keep his job? Seriously.
Speaker 2: So this guy always I feel like those guys are
Speaker 2: They always blame it on somebody else, so they gotta
Speaker 2: keep their job.
Speaker 1: This guy, I assume, is the one who hired the coach.
Speaker 1: He decided to let Barkley go to Philadelphia. He re
Speaker 1: signed Jones, then cut him. Now Jones looks really good.
Speaker 1: This guy is like the worst GM in the league.
Speaker 1: He kept his job, and now you know.
Speaker 2: What happens jameis Winston either throws five touchdowns passes or
Speaker 2: five picks, and I don't know which is gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You never know what, James, You're gonna get. So, but
Speaker 2: I don't love any of these divisional roads favorites. That's
Speaker 2: against the rules. I don't want to use the Chargers
Speaker 2: on the road at Jacksonville. I think it's hard, but
Speaker 2: I think you have to use Pat tonight if you
Speaker 2: have Pats.
Speaker 1: What about the Dolphins in Madrid against.
Speaker 3: The Committally don't love international games.
Speaker 1: I've never won an international game in my life. Well,
Speaker 1: we so, Kelly, So it's me you Chris Thurston, who
Speaker 1: I love and Joff would also love, and we're doing
Speaker 1: Oh I love Chris. Uh So we're so we each
Speaker 1: have one fourth of the entry. But are you going
Speaker 1: to buffalo everyone and like make all the picks and
Speaker 1: is that and then blame us if they lose? Is that?
Speaker 3: Ba is Joff entered?
Speaker 2: Because I'm in Aruba, so I Brett and I before
Speaker 2: I left information Yes, well, Joff has his own account,
Speaker 2: his own splash count. So when I got down here,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit, I can't enter. You can put
Speaker 2: your picks in from anywhere once you enter in a
Speaker 2: legal state. But I forgot to get us another entry
Speaker 2: before I left. So Jof's like, all get one. Just
Speaker 2: everybody been moment I said, okay, great, So no I
Speaker 2: have zero power.
Speaker 3: Joff has all the power.
Speaker 1: Joff has all the power. That's great because I feel
Speaker 1: like when you have all the power, you just sort
Speaker 1: of steamroll everybody, like the poor SAPs at the bar
Speaker 1: down there in Aruba and then.
Speaker 3: Has bought me a drink since we've been here?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? And then the first two days
Speaker 2: we're here on booze and then.
Speaker 1: If you lose, you point fingers. Do you think that's fair?
Speaker 3: What are we right now? We should see what this
Speaker 3: chat says.
Speaker 2: Okay, games Monday, games Zuo games, road teams, individual games.
Speaker 2: So it's basically ninety of the games.
Speaker 1: Joff just said, it's NFL. They're all, well, what about this,
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins? What about Dallas? I what about Dallas?
Speaker 1: Monday night football? Here in Las Vegas at the rest,
Speaker 1: I'm going to the game, so I could if if
Speaker 1: Dallas loses, I could be the one that gets to
Speaker 1: blame because I'll be there. I'll be at Allegiant Stadium.
Speaker 2: I I want to I okay, fine, go ahead, put
Speaker 2: it in the chat. Go ahead. No, we want to
Speaker 2: take an eight and to that point favorite when we
Speaker 2: could take a three point favorite.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm not an expert on these things,
Speaker 1: but I would imagine that Baltimore has a certain level
Speaker 1: of future value that Dallas does not possess. Is that
Speaker 1: fair to say?
Speaker 2: Okay? Well, I mean I don't care anymore. You guys decide.
Speaker 2: How about this? Do you guys decide? For this week?
Speaker 3: We're taking the path tonight, that's all I know.
Speaker 1: Well, obviously, so we'll take the Patriots tonight. Far as
Speaker 1: stuff for our producers to clip out, we got two
Speaker 1: great producers on the show. They have bet, they have
Speaker 1: bet New England up quite a bit so New England.
Speaker 1: New England was more like a ten and a half
Speaker 1: point favorite in this game. They got up to eleven
Speaker 1: and a half, we got laid. We took money at
Speaker 1: eleven and a half, and then they laid twelve and
Speaker 1: a half while Kelly and I were recording the show.
Speaker 1: So we're actually up to New England minus thirteen right
Speaker 1: now at home against the Jets. We did see an
Speaker 1: account that we respect that took six to one on
Speaker 1: the money line from New York. But I would have
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: The short money, he's hedging his uh, maybe he's hedging
Speaker 2: his West Kate five K Survivor pick.
Speaker 1: That means possible. You know, there's some big Survivor contests
Speaker 1: around town. I would think New England has to be
Speaker 1: has to be a very popular play tonight in Survivor, right,
Speaker 1: I would, Yeah.
Speaker 2: New England loses tonight, there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 2: dead money in that splash pool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the splash pool. Kelly Kelly wanted me. I said
Speaker 1: my NFL season was over when Atlanta or the Arizona
Speaker 1: lost to Tennessee. But Kelly Kelly twisted my arm. He
Speaker 1: twisted my arm.
Speaker 2: Yes, I just raided you incessantly in the group chat
Speaker 2: until you said, yes.
Speaker 1: My season ended. My season ended. I folded up with dignity.
Speaker 1: Why are you dragging me back into this thing?
Speaker 2: Because that's the beauty of Splash is you can just
Speaker 2: keep getting back into action action action, action actions plush.
Speaker 1: I will say, Splash does a great job, and I
Speaker 1: do like that overlay.
Speaker 2: I'll give you that's really what it is. Even my
Speaker 2: college football contest has a huge overlay this week. I've
Speaker 2: probably not done the best job promoting it being here
Speaker 2: in Aruba, so that's my fault. But I think it
Speaker 2: has less than two hundred people entered, which means there's
Speaker 2: like a seventy five dollars overlay.
Speaker 1: Right now, let's do college football, because I think this
Speaker 1: is a pretty good Saturday in college football. I think
Speaker 1: it's one of the better ones we've had really in
Speaker 1: the last month or so. I mean, there's some pretty
Speaker 1: good games this weekend. We've seen sharp money on a
Speaker 1: bunch of big favorites. Kelly's favorite. They laid James Madison
Speaker 1: minus twenty against Appalachian State. Michigan is playing Northwestern at
Speaker 1: Wrigley Field. They laid ten eleven and eleven and a half.
Speaker 1: I think we even saw money on the over in
Speaker 1: that game. Do I remember that correctly? I'll come back
Speaker 1: to that. I might have that wrong. How about this one?
Speaker 1: They laid Notre Dame minus ten and ten and a
Speaker 1: half at Pittsburgh. You know, one of my favorite coaches,
Speaker 1: Paton Ardoozy, had a very strange quote this week.
Speaker 2: What is wrong with him?
Speaker 1: He basically he basically came out and said he doesn't
Speaker 1: care if they win because that he sees there. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's pretty much what he was saying.
Speaker 3: He doesn't care if they beat one hundred and ten
Speaker 3: to four.
Speaker 1: I mean he understands that their path to the College
Speaker 1: Wall Playoff is through winning the ACC. I think, right,
Speaker 1: that's what he's saying. But it's still a very odd
Speaker 1: thing to say. I have to believe that beating Notre
Speaker 1: Dame would be good for their football program period, but
Speaker 1: also would be something that would help them get into
Speaker 1: the playoff. No, it's a strange quote.
Speaker 2: Sometimes coach is like, because we know coaches will lie.
Speaker 2: Do you think maybe he just said that to like
Speaker 2: throw people off, I don't know, or to make it
Speaker 2: seem like they don't care and so maybe Notre Dame
Speaker 2: doesn't prepare as well.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was weird if youre Notre Dame. I believe Notre
Speaker 1: Dame has three games left, and I believe they play
Speaker 1: They play Stanford, and they play Syracuse. So no offense
Speaker 1: to those two programs. But if Notre Dame beats Pitt
Speaker 1: on Saturday, they're gonna make it to the collegeball playoff.
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna.
Speaker 3: Make they actually want to.
Speaker 1: I will say that Stanford. Stanford has had a very
Speaker 1: impressive season relative to their preseason expectations, and I believe
Speaker 1: that game is gonna be in Palo Alto. But if
Speaker 1: Notre Dame wins on Saturday, they are very likely going
Speaker 1: back to the College Fomball Playoff. So you would think
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't need any extra motivation. It's a strange
Speaker 1: quote from Nordeosy. They all, I did, I can.
Speaker 3: It's a strange guy.
Speaker 2: What do you want me to say?
Speaker 1: He's they bet over forty one in the Michigan game
Speaker 1: that games at Wrigley Field. They bet UNLV minus four
Speaker 1: and a half and minus five and a half. That
Speaker 1: game is here against Utah State and they bet Iowa
Speaker 1: plus seven at USC. I've seen that a couple of times.
Speaker 1: There is public money on USC, but there was some
Speaker 1: sharp money on Iowa. There's a little bit of money
Speaker 1: on Georgia minus six. That's the big game of the week,
Speaker 1: Georgia between the hedges against Kelly's, Kelly's Hero, Kelly's college
Speaker 1: football crush, arch manning Texas long Horns. George is George
Speaker 1: is six point favorite in that game. That should be
Speaker 1: a good one. Haven't seen much on Alabama Oklahoma. That's
Speaker 1: a good one too. So there's a lot of good
Speaker 1: college football this week. It's a pretty good card. It's
Speaker 1: a pretty good card.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say it's a pretty good card. I'm
Speaker 2: actually interested in the Iowa game. I had them on
Speaker 2: my long list. I didn't get to the window with
Speaker 2: them yet. I was kind of debating and if I
Speaker 2: could stand the stomach to bet Kirk Farns for the
Speaker 2: third time as an under dog after he completely screwed
Speaker 2: me over versus Indiana and then Oregon last weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you one more huge favorite. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it to you. They this game is Friday, Oregon.
Speaker 1: Oregon is that at home against Kelly's guy PJ. Fleck Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and they laid twenty four, and they laid twenty five.
Speaker 1: Oregon at home now twenty six point favorite against Minnesota.
Speaker 1: That game's Friday Night, Kelly. You doing a lot of
Speaker 1: You're doing a lot of nodding in this episode.
Speaker 2: Because I'm muting myself because people are walking by with
Speaker 2: like talent cards and they're picking up the pool and
Speaker 2: there's children, and I'm just going, they're.
Speaker 1: Doing their They're doing their jobs.
Speaker 2: Kid.
Speaker 3: It's the show where I just let you talk for
Speaker 3: a change.
Speaker 1: Oh great, uh oh, the listeners will love that because
Speaker 1: I know everybody tunes in for me. I'm sure, uh
Speaker 1: let me uh give me your HETI threesome and I'll
Speaker 1: go to the NFL give me your hoty.
Speaker 2: It's Northwestern. I actually think twelve and a half is
Speaker 2: way too many points for that deepense. I am not
Speaker 2: impressed with Michigan or Bryce Underwood, so I can't wait
Speaker 2: to lose that one by forty.
Speaker 3: I also like Michigan State.
Speaker 2: I think this is a really good spot for Jonathan
Speaker 2: Smith here at Home to finally get a big ten
Speaker 2: win over Penn State, who just had their heart and
Speaker 2: soul ripped out after thinking they can.
Speaker 1: So did the Westgates Sports Book. By the way, because
Speaker 1: Penn State outright against Indiana was going to be I
Speaker 1: think it would have been our biggest win of the
Speaker 1: year in college football. I think it would have been.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't the biggest win of the year, it
Speaker 1: would have been right at the very top of the list.
Speaker 1: And Penn State they didn't even try to get a
Speaker 1: first down. They just ran it in the line three times,
Speaker 1: punted it. Let's punt it down there to the Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy favorite and see if he can do anything, or
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy co favorite.
Speaker 2: Wait, that's kind of how I felt about Iowa. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what you gave Oregon too much time? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: We we talk about this all the time.
Speaker 2: And then they went for two so they'd be at
Speaker 2: least against a field goal, which I understand that you
Speaker 2: do have to go for two in that situation.
Speaker 1: Your aggressiveness should be correlated to the strength of your
Speaker 1: offense and the strength of the other team's offense. In
Speaker 1: Penn State's case, you don't just run the ball into
Speaker 1: the line three times and then kick it back down
Speaker 1: the field. Indiana, what happened was exactly what I thought
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. That kid made an incredible catch, and
Speaker 1: actually the tight end made another incredible catch on like
Speaker 1: the previous play or two plays earlier. But you don't
Speaker 1: just you don't just kick it back down there and
Speaker 1: say go get them defense. When you're playing a Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy quarterback.
Speaker 3: You can't. It's not fair to your defense either. You're
Speaker 3: absolutely right. So anyway, I like Party to get a
Speaker 3: big ten win.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Smith is an underdog money yet again this year,
Speaker 2: even though he can't win football games. Hopefully and win
Speaker 2: this one against the defeated Penn State team, and then
Speaker 2: I like Arizona. I think Cincinnati got exposed versus Utah.
Speaker 2: I think this is too many points. I get that
Speaker 2: they're coming off of bye, but there's Incinnati until further notice.
Speaker 2: No disrespect to sadderfield, but that is the reality. I
Speaker 2: think this Arizona defense, top ten passing defense is going
Speaker 2: to be able to to make some plays, hopefully in
Speaker 2: our favor, so they can win the football game.
Speaker 1: I'll give you one more. I'll give you one more
Speaker 1: because I gave you too many favorites and you don't
Speaker 1: my favorites, and I know you like this side, but
Speaker 1: it's already come down talking about Virginia. So Virginia's come
Speaker 1: down quite a bit. They were six and a half
Speaker 1: point dog, they're now four point dog. They're at Duke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had them written down and I was going
Speaker 2: to use them, and I can't use a four point
Speaker 2: underdog now it's too late.
Speaker 1: Isn't it so funny? This is just a This is
Speaker 1: just a John Murray musing because you want me to muse,
Speaker 1: because you're muted. Isn't it so funny to look at
Speaker 1: the college football betting board on a Thursday and see
Speaker 1: Wisconsin getting thirty points against Indiana in a football game.
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine explaining that to somebody ten years ago.
Speaker 1: You and I have been betting colleg football forever.
Speaker 2: Imagine explaining Luke Fickled got an extension, Like what were
Speaker 2: they thinking?
Speaker 1: It's just it's just so every time I see these
Speaker 1: wisconsint points spreads, it's just so bizarre to me. And
Speaker 1: then obviously Indiana is great and Signetti is doing an
Speaker 1: unbelievable job, unbelievable job, but for them to be getting
Speaker 1: we had this game at thirty and a half. We
Speaker 1: took a sharp bet plus thirty and a half. We're
Speaker 1: now in twenty nine and a half. The game is
Speaker 1: early on Saturday morning. What a crazy point spread. What
Speaker 1: a crazy point spread. I think Saturday is movie.
Speaker 2: Conson last weekend. That's it pissed me off. So of
Speaker 2: course they get the outright win. And now this week
Speaker 2: where they're gonna look like they're gonna get their doors
Speaker 2: blown off.
Speaker 1: Well, they're thirty point underd dogs, So yeah, I would imagine. Yes,
Speaker 1: I would say statistically they will probably lose by a
Speaker 1: lot in that game in Bloomington. Those two teams, those
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks talking about Indiana and Ohio State are are
Speaker 1: there on a collision course for the Big Ten championship game.
Speaker 1: Will it decided the Heisman Trophy? Probably not. I feel
Speaker 1: like most of these guys are lazy and they submit
Speaker 1: their ballots before then. But yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of people are lazy, and
Speaker 2: I think that we've seen it, not only from the
Speaker 2: AP voters mostly recently getting exposed for their votes. Right
Speaker 2: when it used to just come out in the newspaper,
Speaker 2: it was like this big and then you just saw
Speaker 2: the number next to them on the TV, nobody cares.
Speaker 2: But now that we know who these people are and
Speaker 2: they're getting called out for their egregious top twenty five listings,
Speaker 2: like it just shows that they've never paid attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously no, I agree with you. And there's
Speaker 1: obviously a lot of people that have a vote in
Speaker 1: whether we're talking about the Top twenty five or we're
Speaker 1: talking about the Heisman that shouldn't have a vote because
Speaker 1: they're not paying enough attention. Know what they're doing. Why
Speaker 1: don't you Why don't you have a vote? You're a
Speaker 1: media personality.
Speaker 3: I know how you get to have a vote, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Aren't they issued to media members like I would imagine
Speaker 1: does our friend Chris Felika are a really good friend Chris?
Speaker 1: Does he have a Heisman vote?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 3: I've never asked him.
Speaker 1: He probably does. I mean these guys the media, Brett McMurphy,
Speaker 1: you know Brett, right, he probably has a vote and
Speaker 1: the Heisman or the Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: That Brett had a vote. I think so hold on,
Speaker 2: let's see, Kelly, when does the two pick survivor lock?
Speaker 2: Only eighty one entries right now, Big overlay.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What you're reading questions. What is this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm reading because we have to decide on our
Speaker 2: survivor pick.
Speaker 1: And this is why don't we finish our show first?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Because Joff. Listen, Joff's a really important guy.
Speaker 2: He's probably got to go to the country club to
Speaker 2: watch the Thursday night football game, and I want to
Speaker 2: make sure he gets our survivor pick locked in. Because
Speaker 2: I was trying to clarify with the Splash guys, because
Speaker 2: I wanted to know we have to put it both
Speaker 2: tonight right for Patriots. If we can change the second
Speaker 2: one before kickoff Sunday, I need to know when it locks.
Speaker 2: This is important one hundred thousand dollars. John Murray, I.
Speaker 1: Know, But we have a show. We've got a responsibility
Speaker 1: to our audience. We I'm on vacation, Yeah, Joff. Jeoff
Speaker 1: is going to the country club or the yacht club
Speaker 1: or the boat club or whatever else, some stupid whatever
Speaker 1: the yuppies do in Northern Virginia. That's what he's doing.
Speaker 1: But I can't worry about that. I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: do the show first. Let's let's run through the NFL quick.
Speaker 1: The NFL. I'll say this one. The Sunday night game
Speaker 1: is really good, and they definitely bet at least here.
Speaker 1: They bet the Eagles. They laid one and a half.
Speaker 1: They laid two and a half. We're two and a
Speaker 1: half minus one sixteen right now. Remember we got an
Speaker 1: eight cent number, so it's minus one sixteen even money.
Speaker 1: I've seen Kansas City move up a little bit here.
Speaker 1: Kansas City is now out to a four point favorite
Speaker 1: at Denver. Two good afternoon games this week. You've got
Speaker 1: Kansas City Denver, and you got La the Rams hosting Seattle.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything on that game yet, but I
Speaker 1: think that's noteworthy because the afternoon game is always suck.
Speaker 1: They bet Jacksonville plus three Jacksonville's at home against I
Speaker 1: called him San Diego. You called them the Chargers, and
Speaker 1: they bet. Uh. They bet Cleveland. Shocking. They bet Cleveland
Speaker 1: every week. Who cares that that means nothing? They bet
Speaker 1: that means nothing. Why I didn't write that down every week?
Speaker 1: I can just tell you, let's skip ahead. Every week
Speaker 1: they bet Cleveland, and then we can go to the
Speaker 1: Sunday show.
Speaker 3: Did not last week? You did not say Cleve.
Speaker 1: Because last week it was the two teams that they
Speaker 1: always bet playing one another. They played the Jets.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, but let's just the great middle opportunity. I
Speaker 2: middled both sides of that game I got and the
Speaker 2: teaser it was great. I loved every second of it.
Speaker 1: I would saying that I love to cry about the games.
Speaker 1: But that Jacksonville Houston game on Sunday morning, we were middled.
Speaker 1: We were middled on that result, and that touchdown got
Speaker 1: us out of the middle, turned us from being middled
Speaker 1: into a big winner. It was the biggest cheer in
Speaker 1: our risk room that I've heard this season, was that play.
Speaker 2: It just ever this beach bar watching the Vikings Ravens game, right,
Speaker 2: it's over. We closed on our tower, walking back to
Speaker 2: the hotel in the five hundred yards from the beach
Speaker 2: bar that we had the NFL games on too. There,
Speaker 2: Jacksonville was about to win the football game. Houston was
Speaker 2: about to win the football game. Jackson was about to
Speaker 2: win the football game. Houston did something insane that I
Speaker 2: don't even still know because I wasn't watching yep, And
Speaker 2: I just told all my friends that had.
Speaker 3: Houston, I said, just go buy a lot of ticket.
Speaker 1: Holy shit. Well, Jacksonville had the ball down one and
Speaker 1: there was a defensive touchdown on the last play of
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, and I think Jacksonville had been up
Speaker 1: twenty nine to ten in the second half, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: We weren't really in trouble when it was twenty nine
Speaker 1: to ten, we were fine. It was the exact outcome
Speaker 1: of them winning by one, which I don't have this
Speaker 1: in front of me, but I think it would have
Speaker 1: been the first time this year a game landed one
Speaker 1: in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Oh only the first time, not the other thirteen. Oh no,
Speaker 2: I got an answer from splash.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: Team until Sunday.
Speaker 2: So there you go. So you can play the Patriots
Speaker 2: tonight Patriots when we can change the second team until Sunday.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me send that to the team.
Speaker 1: I'm so ry, I'm so relieved. I feel so much better.
Speaker 2: And you can actually sign up until Monday Night football
Speaker 2: because as long as you can have one survivor pick,
Speaker 2: you got plenty of time.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You got to pick two?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sign up until Sunday night.
Speaker 1: I went straight for the audience. So Sunday Night Football,
Speaker 1: you could pick the Sunday night game and the Monday
Speaker 1: night game, you'd be going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could pick what whatever the Sunday night game is?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 3: Eagles Lions? So you can pick and then you can
Speaker 3: pick the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what you could do if you're somebody
Speaker 1: and I'm just this is just my advice. If you're
Speaker 1: somebody that's not going to use New England tonight, let's
Speaker 1: just pretend you're not going to use New England. Wait
Speaker 1: and see what happens after this game. Don't sign up now,
Speaker 1: because if you if you're not going to use them anyway,
Speaker 1: and the Jets somehow win, you should sign You should
Speaker 1: be signing up for several entries.
Speaker 2: But here's here's what's going to happen, and here's what
Speaker 2: everybody waited for. When Philadelphia lost to the Giants. The
Speaker 2: last time I did it, there was one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirteen people out of the two hundred and thirty three
Speaker 2: that can sign up that use the Eagles, and then
Speaker 2: everybody max up. The wise guys max out their entries.
Speaker 2: I woke up Friday morning and Joff goes, what the
Speaker 2: hell I wanted to get in? I go, oh, you.
Speaker 1: Couldn't get in?
Speaker 2: So whoa yeah, Because in which you can have I
Speaker 2: think you can have six entries, So everybody macks them
Speaker 2: out because why wouldn't you look at all the dead
Speaker 2: money in the pool?
Speaker 1: That's interesting, So you got to be.
Speaker 3: Look at all the dead money in the contest.
Speaker 1: So you you basically got to be right there if
Speaker 1: you're going to use the strategy that I recommended, which
Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't because Kelly me is a great point.
Speaker 1: But if you're going to use that strategy, you should
Speaker 1: be there, like, right as the game is ending, get
Speaker 1: me my entries before, because it's going to fill up.
Speaker 3: Patriots.
Speaker 2: Actually, Joe and Sammy p I did their show this morning,
Speaker 2: a day early, and Joe's like, do you think it's
Speaker 2: going to fill I said, if New England lose, it's
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right now, it's on the short side.
Speaker 2: I mean it is. I've been doing a piss poor
Speaker 2: job of promoting it.
Speaker 1: Let me look for vacation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I should still. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is like something I enjoy doing. I should do a
Speaker 2: better job as a commissioner. Right now, there are eighty
Speaker 2: seven entries out of two hundred and twenty three. That's
Speaker 2: some serious dead money. I mean there's seventy thousand ish
Speaker 2: and guaranteed an overlay right now from the guarantee.
Speaker 1: What is your best bet? What is your NFL best bet?
Speaker 2: I went back and forth because I don't love this
Speaker 2: week in the NFL. I went back and forth and
Speaker 2: I ultimately landed on the Bucks again. I went Bucks.
Speaker 2: Last week. I screwed up. It was a bad spot
Speaker 2: for the box against New England. I think the Bucks
Speaker 2: have a much better shot here. Look at this. What
Speaker 2: a stat about the Buffalo Bills since October twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: nine and twelve against the spread as a home favorite,
Speaker 2: including oh and three this season box number Yeah against
Speaker 2: the spread as a home favorite. They do well against
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They do all as a home underdog.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't. I haven't seen much on that. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen much on that game. Bucks. Bill's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be the game on sound here at the Westgate. I
Speaker 1: think it's a pretty good Sunday card, good Sunday night
Speaker 1: game and the Monday night game. The Monday night game
Speaker 1: is not a good game, but it's gonna draw a
Speaker 1: crowd because it's Cowboys Raiders Vegas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna draw like two thirds Cowboys fans and allegiate.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably. I mean there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: Cowboy fans there, although the Cowboys aren't exactly having a
Speaker 1: banner season either.
Speaker 2: No, but like everybody born before nineteen eighty five is
Speaker 2: a Cowboys fan. I feel like everybody we know was
Speaker 2: like big Cowboys fans. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's because when we were kids, they were
Speaker 1: winning three Super Bowls in four years.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 3: They were good?
Speaker 1: They were good, they did they didn't win the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl three times.
Speaker 3: And I don't remember. I don't really remember anything before
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: They won the Super Bowl in ninety two, ninety three,
Speaker 1: ninety five, ninety four.
Speaker 3: All that's pretty blurry.
Speaker 1: The ninety four the forty nine ers had like a
Speaker 1: powerhouse team, and they beat they finally broke through. They
Speaker 1: beat Dallas in the NFC Championship game, and then they
Speaker 1: destroyed San Diego in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: And I remember that because I hit a super Bowl square.
Speaker 2: I do remember that Super Bowl. I hit a super
Speaker 2: Bowl square and I went seven hundred dollars at my
Speaker 2: aunt's Super Bowl party, and she wouldn't let me have
Speaker 2: all the money because she was bught me the squares.
Speaker 2: So I just it with her, and I was.
Speaker 1: You were, you were a kid, starting to give you
Speaker 1: to your own.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine when done with that money?
Speaker 2: Could you imagine we just put it in a nice
Speaker 2: little SMP fund. With that money it'd be worth today
Speaker 2: just saying be worth a.
Speaker 1: Lot, well, actually be worth a lot less than it
Speaker 1: was this morning. I hope you haven't been watching the
Speaker 1: stock market.
Speaker 3: Today and I've been trying to get coin base closed.
Speaker 1: As well by my mother. Before we go to the
Speaker 1: mail bag. My you know mom and I mom is
Speaker 1: very based, so we talk about the stock market a lot.
Speaker 1: Mom is currently on a cruise from Australia to New Zealand,
Speaker 1: so fortunately she doesn't know that she probably lost a
Speaker 1: lot of money.
Speaker 2: Your mom travels more than I do.
Speaker 1: I'm you know what, I'll just tell you right now,
Speaker 1: how proud I am my mom. I mean, she she is.
Speaker 2: She spends every dollar of your inheritance, every single dollar.
Speaker 1: I don't need it. I'm fine. She's so she's sailing
Speaker 1: from from Sydney to Auckland, and then she's flying from
Speaker 1: Auckland to La and then she's coming here for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's she's a go getter man, she's a
Speaker 1: she's a go getter. She's so funny, though I don't
Speaker 1: know what. I don't know what Susan's like, but my mom, Susan,
Speaker 1: your mom. My mom is seventy six. And I'll call
Speaker 1: her after work and be like, hey, how was how
Speaker 1: was your day?
Speaker 2: Mom?
Speaker 1: She's like I was pretty barring. I'm like, oh, what'd
Speaker 1: you do? I was like, well, I went to the gym,
Speaker 1: and I went swimming, and I went to your brother's house,
Speaker 1: and I saw my grandkids, and I was planning for
Speaker 1: my trip. And I'm like, I don't know, that sounds
Speaker 1: like pretty busy for a seventy six year old.
Speaker 2: My mom gets my mom just turned seventy four, and
Speaker 2: she gets mad because she's like, you treat me like
Speaker 2: I'm your personal assistant.
Speaker 3: Because she doesn't do anything.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, hey, Mom, can you go do some
Speaker 2: things for me?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, what what did mom think life was
Speaker 1: going to look like at seventy six. She's she's at
Speaker 1: the gym, she's seeing her grandkids, she's getting ready to
Speaker 1: go to Australia. Which you think she's gonna be jumping
Speaker 1: out of planes when she's her age? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean that might be.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you wanna anyways? I'm proud of
Speaker 1: her striking.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to do the mailbag.
Speaker 2: I want to get the hell out of here, dinners
Speaker 2: in seven minutes? Do we have to do the mailbag?
Speaker 2: Can't we just like pump them to next week? I
Speaker 2: mean we got we got weird questions, like about F
Speaker 2: one racing?
Speaker 3: Do you really want to answer that?
Speaker 1: Let me look at the questions. I didn't look at them.
Speaker 3: Hold on, Jack t. Vegas, do you write much on
Speaker 3: auto racing?
Speaker 1: Huh, that's a question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't answer that.
Speaker 1: Next question, Jack, you're on my list.
Speaker 3: That could be your that could be your nickname. Cracker John.
Speaker 3: How far do you know where.
Speaker 2: The ars are on a weekday and weekend football?
Speaker 3: And how do we collect that data?
Speaker 1: Oh, we'll see, good question, We'll see. We'll see sharp guys.
Speaker 1: Bet on the twelve day number, the number that comes
Speaker 1: out the previous Tuesday, and we'll use those bets when
Speaker 1: we're resetting the numbers on Sunday when we reopen the
Speaker 1: games after that day's games, so online a long way
Speaker 1: out a lot.
Speaker 2: Those are great though.
Speaker 3: Those are really great set of numbers as well to
Speaker 3: use for a handicap.
Speaker 2: They're one of my favorite things to look at and
Speaker 2: see what changed from the previous week.
Speaker 1: To the next.
Speaker 2: Just because the team got blown out doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: the line's going to go crazy. Sometimes it does due
Speaker 2: to injury, so forth. But yes, I think it's a
Speaker 2: really good indicator of maybe how much this quarterback is
Speaker 2: worth versus that quarterback or so forth.
Speaker 1: Or maybe or maybe we over adjusted too much to
Speaker 1: the results from that day's games.
Speaker 2: And the sharp guy's betting. That number tells you that yep,
Speaker 2: got it. Okay, Uh Christy, gee, we've got already answer
Speaker 2: this too, well, Jamis, have four tds or four I
Speaker 2: and t's your guess is going to mine?
Speaker 1: And that's all answers. I have an answer to that. Yes,
Speaker 1: yes he will.
Speaker 2: He does both. He does both sport or something. He's
Speaker 2: how great he's subjectively okay? Like why is he s
Speaker 2: in the NFL? Shouldn't like Fox or.
Speaker 3: Somebody pay him bazillions of dollars to be an analyst?
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that'd be a great career for him after.
Speaker 2: Playing, Like why why are you still getting hit over
Speaker 2: the head when you could just have jamous euphanism.
Speaker 1: There's not much a better There's not like very many
Speaker 1: better jobs and being a backup quarterback. Like I know,
Speaker 1: when my brother was working for the Redskins, their third
Speaker 1: string quarterback was Rex Grossman.
Speaker 3: Oh god, have you ever placed a bet on Rex Grossman?
Speaker 1: I ever placed the bed on Rex Grossman? Was I
Speaker 1: alive in the two thousands? Of course I have, But
Speaker 1: he was doing that. But at the time that by
Speaker 1: the time that he was there, he was like probably
Speaker 1: early thirties, he was making a million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: He was married to some babe, and he just played
Speaker 1: video games all day, never took the fields.
Speaker 2: That sounds great, fair enough to Shay John Murray, All right.
Speaker 2: Five Kevin Boss wants to know has Islam Mackachev reached
Speaker 2: the level of Kabebe at the betting window lines, price
Speaker 2: way higher, large late bets coming in ending every parlay.
Speaker 1: Question mark, I don't know that it's I don't know
Speaker 1: that his power rating is a size Kabeb's and he
Speaker 1: is moving up in wait, I know I don't Kelly's
Speaker 1: got to go. But we did see sharp money against
Speaker 1: him at plus two twenty. Now it's a big underdog,
Speaker 1: but he saw some sharp money against him at plus
Speaker 1: two twenty. We also saw some sharp money on Valentina
Speaker 1: Schefchenk well plus one ten. But I should mention that
Speaker 1: she is now minus one thirty five in that fight.
Speaker 1: So the sharp money was at plus one ten. Now
Speaker 1: it's minus one thirty five. That my lovely beachy friend
Speaker 1: is not the same bet? Now is it not the
Speaker 1: same bet? No? It it's not.
Speaker 3: Doctor underscore ac sport.
Speaker 2: When comparing mendoz Is, resume to Sayan's potential moment to
Speaker 2: win the Heisman, what do you think carries more weight
Speaker 2: the stats or the storyline? Look at all these things
Speaker 2: we already covered for our audience.
Speaker 1: I think it's the I think that honestly, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the voters are lazy. They don't
Speaker 1: do their homework, and they just look at the statistics
Speaker 1: and they vote. That's what I believe. Maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just such a cynical asshole. Well I have
Speaker 1: a cynical asshole, But I believe that they just they
Speaker 1: don't not all of them, not every single one, but
Speaker 1: too many of them. Just look at the statistics and vote.
Speaker 1: I'll send the stats, Kelly, what do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I wish they paid attention to the storylines. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe it's a female thing that we love good storylines,
Speaker 2: but it's true, Like, Okay, let's talk about this similar,
Speaker 2: similar thing to Ariel and I've been discussing this trip
Speaker 2: Drake may MVP. Why the Patriots haven't played anybody, He
Speaker 2: hasn't done anything that's like super overly impressive for me
Speaker 2: to think that he should win the MVP beating who's
Speaker 2: your well well, prior to last week, I said, I
Speaker 2: thought Baker Mayfield still deserved MVP, and then he looked
Speaker 2: like dog shit, So time to go.
Speaker 1: They've now won in they won in Buffalo, they won
Speaker 1: in Tampa, and then now they do have they have
Speaker 1: some critical games left. They obviously they play Buffalo again.
Speaker 1: That game will be in Foxborough. I mean, it seems
Speaker 1: to me like this season there's no really standout quarterback statistics.
Speaker 2: I think that's there, but yet here's everybody trying to
Speaker 2: give Drake ma the MVP, and I'm like, okay, we
Speaker 2: gotta let's pump the brakes.
Speaker 3: It's only week eleven, but it's.
Speaker 1: Like, do you hate Drake may No.
Speaker 2: I just think the Patriots need to show me a
Speaker 2: little bit more. I mean they've had They've had the
Speaker 2: one of the easiest schedules of the season.
Speaker 3: Yes, they won.
Speaker 1: Course, they play in a bad division. They had a
Speaker 1: bad record last year. Their schedule is going to be
Speaker 1: easy if if you play a week.
Speaker 2: So if you are a team that has the toughest schedule, right,
Speaker 2: these things should come into play, whether it's Heisman, whether
Speaker 2: it's not. I mean, like, I'm sorry, you cannot just say, okay,
Speaker 2: well here's a team in the ACC that hasn't played anybody.
Speaker 2: Let's give this kid the Heisman. I mean you you
Speaker 2: argue for the SEC all the time.
Speaker 1: Kelly was so right. I'll let her go. But Kelly
Speaker 1: was so right. Before the season. I made fun of
Speaker 1: you for saying that the Big twelve was the third
Speaker 1: best conference behind the SEC and the Big Ten and
Speaker 1: not the ACC. And I made a bunch of jokey,
Speaker 1: shitty comments about it. The ACC gargles my ball, The
Speaker 1: ACC sucks.
Speaker 2: You were you guys wanted to have those crap.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that I was wrong. I'm admitting I
Speaker 1: was admitting defeat. The ACC is so bad. I'm not
Speaker 1: even convinced that the winner of the ACC should get
Speaker 1: into the College FOOTBA Playoff. How about that.
Speaker 2: They were trying to lobby for two teams?
Speaker 1: Why should they take away a spot from the Big
Speaker 1: Ten or the SEC? Why explain it? Or the Big
Speaker 1: Twelve or the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: I think there's two.
Speaker 2: There's probably still four Big Twelve teams. I think that
Speaker 2: would not embarrass us, Like the AEC is gonna get
Speaker 2: embarrassed the AC, Like if Virginia wins the ACC.
Speaker 1: It's bad, man. I mean the only team Miami, sure, Hugh,
Speaker 1: sorry long Day. Miami has the talent. If they were
Speaker 1: to get in, they probably wouldn't embarrass themselves because they
Speaker 1: have the level of athlete. I don't really like the coach,
Speaker 1: but they have the level of athletes to probably they're
Speaker 1: not gonna get embarrassed. But if you get a team
Speaker 1: like Virginia in there, I mean they might get run
Speaker 1: out of the stadium by one of these Big ten schools,
Speaker 1: by one of these SEC schools. Is that really what
Speaker 1: we want? I mean, I guess I'm going to do
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 2: I want you to give me some hypothetical lines. A
Speaker 2: couple of ACC teams were some big twelve teams versus
Speaker 2: some big ten teams versus some SEC teams.
Speaker 3: I'm genuinely curious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just put it together for the next show
Speaker 2: because I want to know. I mean, VR talks about
Speaker 2: this stuff on betout all the time and he's like,
Speaker 2: are you getting me? Pits not even a top twenty
Speaker 2: five team and anybody's power ratings just because they have
Speaker 2: a number twenty two next to their name, they're not
Speaker 2: the top twenty team barely.
Speaker 1: If you don't believe that, If you're somebody out there
Speaker 1: and you don't believe that, you can just look at
Speaker 1: the point spread. The betting market is the betting market.
Speaker 1: Notre Dame started as a ten point favorite at Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: and now they're a twelve point favorite on the road
Speaker 1: in pitt So obviously they're not in the top twenty five.
Speaker 1: Whether what happens on Saturday is not what I'm commenting on.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what the point spread is, what the
Speaker 1: betting market is. Of course they're not. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let Kelly go because I want her and Ariel are
Speaker 1: going to dinner and they're probably gonna be approached by
Speaker 1: a lot of charming or young men at this dinner.
Speaker 2: And I want young men in Aruba. That is the
Speaker 2: other thing. Like everybody's here is old, like the old
Speaker 2: people island orange or old. There's nobody here that's my age.
Speaker 2: I left it there, yea. I no wonder you glve
Speaker 2: coming here. It's like living in Florida.
Speaker 1: You live in Florida.
Speaker 3: That's why I live in Florida, because I don't feel
Speaker 3: old anymore.
Speaker 1: All right. I will tell her I said hi, enjoy
Speaker 1: the rest of your trip.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you she didn't walk out here and
Speaker 3: say hi.
Speaker 1: Well, I see her every Sunday. We do a show together.
Speaker 1: It's called Last Call On.
Speaker 2: You'll see you Sunday when I'm hating my life from
Speaker 2: my couch.
Speaker 1: Recovering from Aruba sounds tough.