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<v Speaker 1>The most terrifying form of evil is that which lurks

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<v Speaker 1>within the human mind. Asylum the ultimate in horror. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an asylum, incurably insane, asylum filled with stark, raving terror.

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<v Speaker 1>From Robert Black, author of Psycho Asylum, the Prison of

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<v Speaker 1>Madness where few enter and non written see Asylum, You

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing to lose but your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, Midnight viewers to Anthologies Attack, where we're taking

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<v Speaker 2>a look at anthologies of every genre in media. Antonio

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<v Speaker 2>Lapour is on assignment, but in his stead we have

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<v Speaker 2>a very special guest. Ladies and gentlemen, You're in for

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<v Speaker 2>a treat because tonight's co host is a horror anthology royalty,

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<v Speaker 2>having written From a Whisper to a Scream, Tales from

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<v Speaker 2>the Hood one, two and three, and American Nightmares. As

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<v Speaker 2>a producer, he's cultivated young talent with films like Fear

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<v Speaker 2>of Black Hat, Menace to Society, The Brothers, and my

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<v Speaker 2>personal favorite, Love and A forty five, and for the

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<v Speaker 2>past quarter century he's been at the helm of his

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<v Speaker 2>own films, directing features like Deep bluecy and most recently

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<v Speaker 2>Every Breath She Takes, and more importantly, back in the

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<v Speaker 2>early nineteen nineties. He helped me sneak into a fucking

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<v Speaker 2>super cool party at Comic Con while I was still underage.

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<v Speaker 2>Sharing the Midnight View with me this week is Darren Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Midnight Viewing, Darren.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad to be here. That was the best introduction I've

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<v Speaker 3>ever had.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, we like our guests to feel welcome here.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great and I love the concept of your show.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about anthology me personally, I'm a horror anthology nut,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly of the asylum excuse me, of the Amicus horror

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<v Speaker 3>movie of the late sixties and seventies and the Reason

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<v Speaker 3>from a Whisper to a Scream and Tales from the

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<v Speaker 3>whod exists because of my obsession with those in a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of my contemporaries are people maybe one generation down.

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<v Speaker 3>They were in the Creep Show and Tales from the

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<v Speaker 3>Dark Side, you know what. I like those fine, but

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<v Speaker 3>the British Amicus ones, to me, are special. I like

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<v Speaker 3>them better. I put them in a class. Dead of

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<v Speaker 3>Night was kind of the granddaddy, as you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>everything else, including my film, we're just trying to just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to come up to the to the level that

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<v Speaker 3>the thrill I felt watching those stories. I guess maybe

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<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons I got so into them is

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<v Speaker 3>because my favorite television show of all time is Twilight.

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<v Speaker 2>Zone, the original, original Twilight Zone fifty nine to sixty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighty yes, and the original Twilight Zone. So when these

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<v Speaker 3>horror anthologies came along, I was a horror fan and

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of had the feel of a Twilight Zone

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, the individual episodes do. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>figuring out my own psychology while I love this genre,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that has something well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the reason we started the show to begin

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<v Speaker 2>with was we wanted to take a look at Tales

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<v Speaker 2>from the Crypt, the television series, and we covered that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we covered we covered Twilight Zone eighty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and now we're covering Tales from the dark Side.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, and I I.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to watch those all the time. I was impressed

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<v Speaker 3>by what they were doing with very low budget. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's what impressed me.

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<v Speaker 2>Exceedingly low budgets, and when you look at what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on at the time, because Amazing Stories was on,

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<v Speaker 2>they rather got contemporary. Those episodes cost a million dollars each. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>over it Tells from the Dark Side, they're like anyone

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<v Speaker 2>got any Scotch tape, and the Tales from the Dark

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<v Speaker 2>Sides were so superior.

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<v Speaker 3>They were better, They were better. They didn't have you know,

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<v Speaker 3>rubber wheels on the World War two plane, all the

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<v Speaker 3>coopy stuff. I really wasn't in it, but no, and

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<v Speaker 3>when they brought Tales from the Crypt, I think the

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<v Speaker 3>original movie is probably my favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>Hornhalo, the original Test the Crypt from seventy one.

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<v Speaker 3>Original Tales from the Crypt. I mean, it's story after

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<v Speaker 3>story after story is good, ending with the fantastic blind

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<v Speaker 3>Man story and great great performance. The ending of that

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<v Speaker 3>is just so awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really it's really jarring. The ending of that one.

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<v Speaker 2>And I agree with you that one is it's like

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but bangers and they cram some stories into what

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<v Speaker 2>is essentially a ninety minute running time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, and all the stories are good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>did you ever look at Santa the same again? And

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<v Speaker 3>then later we had all these Santa Claus hormon But

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<v Speaker 3>you know what the original was that episode and that's

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<v Speaker 3>what people saw and said, oh, we need to turn

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<v Speaker 3>a hole make a whole feature out of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched that every year, The original that the Joan

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<v Speaker 2>Collins Tales from the Crypt. It is so perfect, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even describe it, and I think you use.

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<v Speaker 2>I've shown it to younger people who do not jibe

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<v Speaker 2>with it because no, they find it.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit hokey.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, as as violent as the Amicus films were,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not gory.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're not gory at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So like at the end of that segment, Santa Father

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas comes in to effectively strangle Joan Collins. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>all very stagy and kind of you know, overblown.

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<v Speaker 4>But it shouldn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it doesn't matter to me, and it probably

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<v Speaker 2>didn't matter to you either, because it was such a

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<v Speaker 2>fun concept that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, and she's a great villains and just a

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<v Speaker 3>concept's trying to balance dealing with this murder and the kid,

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<v Speaker 3>and she doesn't keep the balance together and mommy.

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<v Speaker 4>And her plan was so solid.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a solid plan. It was a solid thing.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. We're not here to talk Tails from the

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<v Speaker 4>Crypt tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Or it's potentially not superior, but almost an equal in

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<v Speaker 2>Vult of Horror.

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<v Speaker 4>Baltimore doesn't have as many good stories as.

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<v Speaker 3>I like Baltimore. You know, let's go through them just

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<v Speaker 3>real quick. Yeah, for the audience if they don't know

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<v Speaker 3>these films so they can seek them out. Tales from

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<v Speaker 3>the Crypt Master Asylum, awesome, Doctor Tears, House of Horror

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<v Speaker 3>really cool. You know, I don't know why they called

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<v Speaker 3>it takes place on train, so weird. It should have

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<v Speaker 3>been like, you know, the Train of Horror something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I never can figure out. But anyway, but it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>From Beyond the Grave, which is a really underrated horror anthology.

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<v Speaker 2>And really hard to find actually, or I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>might now be more, but I remember searching for that

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<v Speaker 2>on VHS for fucking ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard to find. Yeah, you're right, and I got it

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<v Speaker 3>on DVD and I think I have it in a

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<v Speaker 3>Blu ray format. Now I got a to go look again.

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<v Speaker 3>But I love that one. And the creepiest thing in

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<v Speaker 3>it is Donald Pleasant's daughter because she looks so much

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just freaking weird. And I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 3>she was an unattractive lady, no, no, no, she looked

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<v Speaker 3>like Donald. She actually she was kind of cute. Considering

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that she looked like Donald Pleasance. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>she'd call her the cute versions. But she's really spooky

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<v Speaker 3>in her episode, and that's a really good one. The

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<v Speaker 3>House That Drip Blood. I have a quick little background

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<v Speaker 3>store in the House That Drip Blood. I had always

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<v Speaker 3>liked it, but I went and saw it at the

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<v Speaker 3>American Cinematech in Hollywood at the Egyptian Theater. This would

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<v Speaker 3>have been around two thousand and five, two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 3>I went and I'm watching it start and the title

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<v Speaker 3>comes up. I said, Drip Blood. And I said to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>the Hood That Drip The Hood That Drip Blood. And

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<v Speaker 3>I took it to some executives who I knew at

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<v Speaker 3>lions and they put in development. So I actually wrote

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<v Speaker 3>a horror anthology called The Hood That Drip Blood. Came

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<v Speaker 3>this close to making, but we didn't get it. Made

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<v Speaker 3>changes in the executive suite, all the old stories that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So I sat on that script and I was like, Ooh,

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<v Speaker 3>I like these episodes. I wish I got to make

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<v Speaker 3>them well. Between Sorry, Lionsgate, I hope they don't sue me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they care. Between American Horror Stories and

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<v Speaker 3>Tales from the Hood two and three, they had the

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<v Speaker 3>Stories from the Hood That Drip Blood sprinkled in them.

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<v Speaker 3>Each movie has one of the stories from me, so

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<v Speaker 3>I've made all those stories.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, Man, that's not it's so

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<v Speaker 2>sad we're not gonna get to see that movie.

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<v Speaker 4>We just can just in.

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<v Speaker 3>Piecemeal exactly like you can see in piecemeal. It's another

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<v Speaker 3>Baltimore is cool. The only one I don't like is Petuergarden,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sorry because I love Burgess Meredith. He's one

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite character actors of all time. He was

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<v Speaker 3>awesome on the Twilight Zone.

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<v Speaker 2>A torture Gardener what no, no, no, no, let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this because I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it about Garden that we just can't get behind?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 4>For me, part of it is just the way it's shot.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels too greasy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I can go along with that, And the

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<v Speaker 3>stories just aren't that compelling, and the wrap round is weak.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually shocking. Will below all the others for me

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<v Speaker 3>because on any given day, I can easily watch any

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<v Speaker 3>of the others and sit down and go, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>let's watch Baldipore. Oh let's watch Doctor Tiff. But you say,

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<v Speaker 3>let's watch Torture Garden, And I'm like, I call that

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<v Speaker 3>torture audience.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's the one anarchist film that I struggled. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a multiple night viewing for for Torture Garden.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be fucking off the charts because it's Burgess

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<v Speaker 2>Meredith as our crypt keeper and it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Written by Robert Block. Is from Beyond the Grave? That's

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<v Speaker 4>their last one? No? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that the last one they did? Or was The

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<v Speaker 3>House that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's from Beyond the Grave because then it's strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond the Grave great films. After that, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the team would get back together to do Monster Club

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>But that is technically not an Amicus film, right, No,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not an Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we're supposed to get to Asylum.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care. Just have to talk about man. I

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<v Speaker 4>love Amicus. I love talking Amicus.

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<v Speaker 3>I just have to share this hilarious story. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>Max Max Rosenbom, who was the producer along with Milton Subotski,

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<v Speaker 3>was a writer producer at the American Cinematech. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how many years ago it was something, but Rosenberg

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<v Speaker 3>was like ninety three ninety four. He died a few

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<v Speaker 3>years later, but he was still spry and he was

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<v Speaker 3>still talking a gang of stuff. And he got up

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<v Speaker 3>there after there after we showed it was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the movies. It might have been The House of Your Blood,

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<v Speaker 3>and he starts talking about this and talking about that

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<v Speaker 3>and enjoying the fact. And I would love to enjoy this.

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<v Speaker 3>When you get to ninety three, you can say anything

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<v Speaker 3>you want. What are they going to do? What are

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<v Speaker 3>they going to do? So we would get these older

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<v Speaker 3>you know. But the funniest one ever was Rosen started

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say enough bad things about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. I was like, all of this stuff

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<v Speaker 4>Years ago, and this still tick deck right.

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<v Speaker 3>Great stuff. So asylum, Yes, asylum pulls the distinction for me.

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<v Speaker 3>and I always defer to the to the original and

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<v Speaker 3>Asylum that wrap around. When I saw it the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>wrap around segment for an anthology film is either the

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<v Speaker 2>most important part or the least important. Right, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>we don't care how we're getting the The spongy twinkie

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<v Speaker 2>is just to get that fucking cream in your mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's just a delivery system. So but I do

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you. Of any anthology horror movie, Robert Block

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<v Speaker 2>got it right. He did, because the other even the

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<v Speaker 2>other amicust films, are are laughing very straightforward.

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<v Speaker 3>Come into the vault. I'm John giel Good, and I

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<v Speaker 3>will tell you you know. But they're very simple. Their

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<v Speaker 3>atmospheric I like them, but they're not as clever Asylum.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really clever.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me for those of you who haven't seen it,

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<v Speaker 2>we're probably gonna be spoiling some shit, so you should

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<v Speaker 2>probably go watch it. Build on Amazon Prime right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You should watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>But as a summary of the film, I'll give you this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is actually from the British Film Institute. A young

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<v Speaker 2>challenged to guess which of several inmates is the former

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<v Speaker 2>head of the institution, who has now who has now

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor B Starr? The doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>The doctor hears the strange stories of how these inmates

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<v Speaker 2>came to be locked away before deciding who he thinks

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<v Speaker 3>That and he's very cocky that he can figure it

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<v Speaker 3>out too. They challenge him, do you think you can

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<v Speaker 3>figure out who he is? I know I can't.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not even a question to this question that he's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be able.

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<v Speaker 2>To and okay, his entree into the asylum the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of our wrap around segment. The hospital administrator effectively is

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick McGee, who most folks will know as the writer

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he's an amicus stalwart.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so sour, our young doctor, our prick of

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor. He he heads off to to our first story. Basically, okay, look,

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<v Speaker 2>he goes upstairs, Patrick McGee, the hospital administrator. This is important.

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<v Speaker 2>The pat the hospital administrator, is in a wheelchair. He

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<v Speaker 2>cannot go upstairs. He doesn't know what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of his asylum. So so our cocky young

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<v Speaker 2>to escort him around the hawk and we're given our

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<v Speaker 2>first story, which is Frozen Fear. This one reminded me

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the Vault of Horrors, the the fstidious

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<v Speaker 2>man and and his wife but pieces and and in

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of yeah, man, that's that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty So husband is tired, our wife is tired of

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<v Speaker 3>the other.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the inverse of that tales from the crypt

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas one. It's that it's a golden husband who is

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<v Speaker 2>tired of his wealthy wife, who's who has her under

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<v Speaker 2>his or has him under her thumb. Also she spent

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time in Africa and his studying voodoo.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe don't mess with your wife, sir. But he's got

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, what do you think of this one? Overall?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's pretty good. You know, it's fun. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's the thing about a stile. The stories are very solid,

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<v Speaker 3>but the rapper one is so good that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>even I don't remember all the stories that clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a weird phenomenon, right, yeah, And it does

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<v Speaker 2>have that similarity.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the most original, but it's fun. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little weird in that we're dealing with a

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<v Speaker 2>husband of this wealthy woman and he chops her up

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<v Speaker 2>into pieces because he has a mistress and as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as the deed is done, they're going to run away together.

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<v Speaker 4>He has purchased a.

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<v Speaker 2>Refrigerator, a freezer, you know, like these giant freezers that

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<v Speaker 2>you would stack your meat in, to stack the body

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<v Speaker 2>of his wife, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then his rap pieces very well.

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<v Speaker 4>Very well, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Clean with the brown paper was you know, you'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Be working at Macy's around Christmas time this fellaw, which

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<v Speaker 2>was weird because he you can tell he spent so

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<v Speaker 2>much time lovingly wrapping it, and then after the fact

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<v Speaker 2>he's hesitant to pick up the head, like now it's

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<v Speaker 2>a frightening object. It wasn't so frightening when it was

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<v Speaker 2>bloody and gory and your wife's head in your hands

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<v Speaker 2>while you were wrapping it.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, maybe he was starting.

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<v Speaker 3>To get a premonition of what was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be yeah, maybe they're just.

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<v Speaker 3>They had pieces right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and you definitely want to throw your wife's

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<v Speaker 2>bracelet in with the body parts when you go to

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<v Speaker 2>leave it there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>But my point is his mistress says, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to take that body with us, and the reaction isn't

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<v Speaker 2>like why did we buy the refrigerator?

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<v Speaker 4>When did this happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe she just want to make sure everything was cold,

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<v Speaker 3>so when instinct they took it.

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<v Speaker 2>Out er, they're like, so the one thing I did

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<v Speaker 2>was that they're running away because most most of these

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to kill my spouse tails and with them

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<v Speaker 2>the body, which means it's no longer a murder case

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the concern, it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>missing person's case, which is going to last years and

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<v Speaker 4>So if this is like an inheritance thing that ain't

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<v Speaker 3>Work, well, wasn't there a thing though? Back then and

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<v Speaker 3>in England? And then when did no fault divorce? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know was that around the because there was

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<v Speaker 4>a time.

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<v Speaker 3>When I know, definitely the fifty and I think still

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<v Speaker 3>in the sixties somewhat where it wasn't no fault divorce.

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<v Speaker 3>You had to have a reason, you had to basically,

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<v Speaker 3>and if your spouse didn't want to give you, then

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<v Speaker 3>you had to sue them for divorce, prove that they

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<v Speaker 3>cheated on you or something. People could be actually held

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<v Speaker 3>locked in relationships. She won't give me a divorce. You

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<v Speaker 3>watch old, old classic movies and you'll hear that plotline,

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<v Speaker 3>she won't give me a divorce. And you know, now,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's so alien that we think. And yet as

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<v Speaker 3>I watch my obsession crime documentary, people knocked their spouses

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<v Speaker 3>off for nothing, reasons, for nothing, for some money, just

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<v Speaker 3>to avoid child support. I mean, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to be slightly inconvenienced. You gotta go, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotta go, and they a'll hire some friend to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're surprised when they get caught.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you would be lucky in that scenario to

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<v Speaker 2>have dead body parts come after you, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just to avoid the sheer humiliation of how poor a

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<v Speaker 3>Work, exactly. It's embarrassing, but it's much more fun to

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<v Speaker 3>have the supernatural bring justice.

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<v Speaker 4>Now here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>One other aspect of this movie and block script that

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<v Speaker 2>I really admire is setting in an asylum automatically makes

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<v Speaker 2>every character an unreliable narrator. So this character there might

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<v Speaker 2>not have been any I mean, their body part, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>because there was something.

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<v Speaker 3>The stories could be told byes. But but if I

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<v Speaker 3>remember correctly, a story, not that one, the one with

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<v Speaker 3>which you have. She has some scar. No, that's is

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<v Speaker 3>that this episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's the mistress telling the story and she's

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<v Speaker 2>she's had her back all the time, and then she

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<v Speaker 2>pulls her review that that the body part hand was

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<v Speaker 2>on her face, and then she used the act.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Okay, now I'm remembering, and that is what proves

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<v Speaker 3>that the story that she told was because up till

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<v Speaker 3>then we're kind of thinking this is some crazy making

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<v Speaker 3>to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all that proves is she hit herself in the

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<v Speaker 2>face with an axe. It doesn't mean that there were

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<v Speaker 2>body parts. Co't look horror needs supernatural.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with that, but I do like that it

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<v Speaker 4>can go either way.

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<v Speaker 3>If you go either way on that absolutely going.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way leads us to the Weird Tailor. Now, interestingly,

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<v Speaker 2>this was originally published in Weird Tales magazine. The Weird

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<v Speaker 2>Tailor was I just like the the coincidence of Weird

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<v Speaker 2>Tales and Weird Tailor. Now this this is the tale

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<v Speaker 2>of a struggling tailor, let's say busy. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>so great when he's approached by a distinguished gentleman in

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<v Speaker 2>the form of mister Peter Cushing, who hires him to

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<v Speaker 2>to sew a suit for him made of a interesting

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<v Speaker 2>material with a set of instructions that can only be

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<v Speaker 2>described as in a cult manifesto, where he can only

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<v Speaker 2>sew this garment between the hours of midnight and dawn.

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<v Speaker 3>The actor who played the tailor very very morse, very morse.

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<v Speaker 3>He usually played the villain, the creepy guy, the one

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<v Speaker 3>who's danger so it's cool in this one that he's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like, you know, struggling shy. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>the opposite of what you usually see that actor. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's one of the strengths of it because

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<v Speaker 3>you have cushion, Yeah, cushion, but you know that guy

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<v Speaker 3>usually is diabolical. I remember him, for instance, in this

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<v Speaker 3>Twilight zoneer where this music is played, is a really

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<v Speaker 3>cool bastard who mistreats his wife, mistreat who work for him,

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<v Speaker 3>and he has a player piano and they get this

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<v Speaker 3>special music and when this music plays, he tells ah

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<v Speaker 3>and he exposes all of his weaknesses, his insecurities and

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that I'm only everything scared. But he's so

425
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<v Speaker 3>evil in that. And then you see him in this

426
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<v Speaker 3>and he's kind of a timid care That was a bano.

427
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<v Speaker 4>In the house, by the way, it was the name

428
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<v Speaker 4>of that TWI yes, yes.

429
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And he's a beautiful wife. Wait a second, Wait

430
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<v Speaker 3>a second. Isn't his wife in that Twilight Zone.

431
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<v Speaker 4>Episode Joan Hackett? Is it Joan Hackett Hackett?

432
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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

433
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<v Speaker 4>What was Oh?

434
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the King of diggression.

435
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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, But what I wanted to say was what

436
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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about with Barry Morris, sort of playing against

437
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<v Speaker 2>type here. I think that's also a strength of anthologies

438
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<v Speaker 2>in general. Yes, so in television because there's so many

439
00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:54.119
<v Speaker 2>of them, but anthologies in general because you can you

440
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<v Speaker 2>can put somebody in there. Look, you know what, like.

441
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<v Speaker 3>Everyone else from the hood. We took a comedian, a

442
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<v Speaker 3>comic app and turn him into a vicious wife.

443
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<v Speaker 2>It was David Alan Grier, right, That was which was

444
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<v Speaker 2>people were shot. Absolutely, if you know what I would say,

445
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<v Speaker 2>I would tell people go watch Creep Show. If you're

446
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<v Speaker 2>a big fan of Leslie Nielsen and what a fucking

447
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<v Speaker 2>hilarious guy he is watching Google Human being on Earth?

448
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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely absolutely, so here we've got I can hold my breath.

449
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<v Speaker 2>The Lord he's also really he showed up in Weirdly

450
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<v Speaker 2>Given the Creep Show aniss of it all. There's an

451
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<v Speaker 2>episode of Night Gallery with both Fritz Weaver and Leslie Nielsen.

452
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<v Speaker 4>He was in Twilight Zone.

453
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<v Speaker 2>He was in Zone which it's called a fear where

454
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<v Speaker 2>Leslie Nielsen is this mercenary who is bet that that

455
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<v Speaker 2>he cannot spend a night in a haunted house, but

456
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<v Speaker 2>the haunted house has been rigged up to scare him

457
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<v Speaker 2>to death.

458
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<v Speaker 4>By Fritz Weaver. Is that the one with the slime

459
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<v Speaker 4>No wait, I'm getting mixed up.

460
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<v Speaker 2>That is the slime one where they've injected him and

461
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<v Speaker 2>he thinks he's going to turn into a Yes.

462
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, it's okay.

463
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<v Speaker 4>We are the kings of digression. Where the hell are

464
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<v Speaker 4>we here? They're cushing once a suit.

465
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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're going through the stories of asylum, and I'm like,

466
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<v Speaker 3>we can go through them, but I think we've told

467
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<v Speaker 3>go see the damn movie.

468
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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty great.

469
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<v Speaker 3>Do we have to spoil arized the entire film that

470
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<v Speaker 3>you know?

471
00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh no, but we can shout out other awesome things

472
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<v Speaker 2>in the movie, Yes we can, So let's keep all right?

473
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<v Speaker 3>All right?

474
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the weird tailor, it's it's you know, you're right,

475
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<v Speaker 2>let's not spoil it.

476
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<v Speaker 4>It's good.

477
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's in here. It's it's exactly where

478
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<v Speaker 2>it needs to be. The second spot.

479
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

480
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<v Speaker 2>Interestingly, Robert Block stopped working for Amicus after this. He

481
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<v Speaker 2>did not appreciate them swapping the story placemental Originally that

482
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<v Speaker 2>first story was the last story.

483
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<v Speaker 4>He got mad about that, and the last story was

484
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<v Speaker 4>some from the Hollywood.

485
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<v Speaker 3>Robert, don't you know that they usually do much worse

486
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<v Speaker 3>than switch the order of your story. I honestly think I.

487
00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Think it was a I honestly think it was a

488
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>thing about money, and he was just looking for the excuse,

489
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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, fuss.

490
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<v Speaker 4>Finally at the end, you.

491
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<v Speaker 3>Know we'll get Mathison. Dammit.

492
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, Chuck Beaumont on the on the horn. Our

493
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<v Speaker 2>next story is Lucy, Come stay now.

494
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<v Speaker 4>This one.

495
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who decided that they were going to

496
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<v Speaker 2>put all of my fantasy women into one segment of

497
00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:30.319
<v Speaker 2>horror anthology and expect me to do anything but drool.

498
00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:34.599
<v Speaker 2>But this one starts Simpling and Britt Eckland, Fuck you.

499
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Charlotte Rampling has just gotten out of the hospital and

500
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<v Speaker 2>her best friend Lucy shows him, and Lucy's a troublemaker.

501
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Lucy's Lucy's Lucy's kind of like Karen Black. But I

502
00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.839
<v Speaker 3>will give more other clue to those out there who

503
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<v Speaker 3>we haven't seen.

504
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<v Speaker 2>Either, speaking of playing against type here now at this

505
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<v Speaker 2>moment in history, Britt Eckland. Look, they're both sex symbols,

506
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Britt Eckland and Charlotte Rampling, right, But Britt Britt Eckland

507
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<v Speaker 2>was the nice girl next door sex symbol and Charlotte

508
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<v Speaker 2>Rampling was sort of the bad girl, and here they've

509
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<v Speaker 2>kind of swapped rolls.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, brick, but yeah, that's true. Britt was pretty.

511
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<v Speaker 2>Bad and Wickerman, well, everyone was bad at Wall I

512
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<v Speaker 2>saw and I'm gonna say, like twenty ten, maybe they

513
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<v Speaker 2>showed they weren't.

514
00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.680
<v Speaker 4>So I drove specifically to see it and I was great.

515
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm standing outside of the theater and I'm alone out

516
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<v Speaker 2>there except for this blonde standing two feet away from me,

517
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<v Speaker 2>and it was fucking oh my god. And man, wow, yeah,

518
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:36.039
<v Speaker 2>so I got to talk. Yeah, she's shorter than me.

519
00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm six two, she was like five nine.

520
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<v Speaker 3>That's still tall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, jesus Us stamp.

521
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and she's great here. I like I like naughty

522
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<v Speaker 4>Britt Eckling.

523
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and this one has a cool twist, which when

524
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<v Speaker 3>I saw it the first time, I did not see

525
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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, we've seen it done in other things.

526
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<v Speaker 4>Do you think it's more telegraphed for modern audiences than

527
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.519
<v Speaker 4>you and I watching it on a TV and a

528
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:06.000
<v Speaker 4>fucking kitchen when we were ten.

529
00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it must. I'm sure it must be. But

530
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<v Speaker 3>on the other hand, will they know using you know,

531
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<v Speaker 3>in Trilogy of Terrors, in that particular episode, it's the

532
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.480
<v Speaker 3>same act, so you know, it throws you off a

533
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:22.519
<v Speaker 3>little bit more having Yeah, two different people play the

534
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:27.000
<v Speaker 3>alter so I think this one will probably actually fool

535
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:30.720
<v Speaker 3>them more consistently than even and I love Trill Care,

536
00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 3>but even than that ending episode of that that they

537
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:38.680
<v Speaker 3>probably spotted right things and stuff and to me, but yeah,

538
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I think it works pretty well.

539
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think this is might hold up.

540
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think this one is superior to the Trilogy

541
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 2>of Terror. It is similarity. Okay, Trilogy Care, A little

542
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>born on the Zoo, the.

543
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<v Speaker 3>That's that's it. I do a second episode where hypnotizes

544
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<v Speaker 3>the guy.

545
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 4>To man that I can't believe that was on national television.

546
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>He's like he's like having her fuck his friends and

547
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 2>stuff like and like.

548
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 3>It was deadly. It was he was a monster. And

549
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 3>I'll never forget you drugged me, No, dear, I've killed you.

550
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah in that wax cup, yeah, man like perspiring wax cup.

551
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.720
<v Speaker 2>All right, everybody go once again, watch the movie. We're

552
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>going to the final set, talk about.

553
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.640
<v Speaker 3>These things in the hope that hear it and go, oh, okay,

554
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:32.799
<v Speaker 3>I need to see that. I need to see that one,

555
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 3>because people do need to see so many people, even filmmakers,

556
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.440
<v Speaker 3>genre filmmakers, they didn't want to go back and look

557
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.319
<v Speaker 3>at anything from the twentieth century, and they definitely don't

558
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:43.519
<v Speaker 3>want to go back past the eighty.

559
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 2>And anyone who that they can't find anything to watch,

560
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I want to strangle as.

561
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Too much to watch now, that's that's the issue.

562
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 4>Everything is available now.

563
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I would When we were kids, man, it was just like,

564
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>here's your three channels. It's going to beat uh pan,

565
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna jam commercials into it. You're never gonna

566
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>enjoy yourself. But we really enjoyed ourselves and we wanted

567
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>more and more and more, and we were denied. And

568
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>now they got everything and they don't care too much.

569
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.440
<v Speaker 3>They have too much. And that's why, you know, for me,

570
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.319
<v Speaker 3>I love the universal horror movie. I got into film noir.

571
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 3>I got it the black and white fine, we had

572
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, everything on at first we had a black

573
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Speaker 3>and white television, but then once we got color television,

574
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 3>still all the old movie we'ren't black and white. My

575
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.680
<v Speaker 3>father's favorite actor with Reboca, so we would watch all that.

576
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 3>And now younger people, younger the millennials down, they will

577
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 3>not watch them. It can be the greatest movie. Oh

578
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.559
<v Speaker 3>it's in black and white, like what it gets silent? Right,

579
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 3>you know you've seen black and white before because everyone

580
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:50.720
<v Speaker 3>while was a modern in that boy, it's hard to

581
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 3>get people to sit and that's the damn shit. In

582
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 3>this particular case, they should see Dead of fantastic.

583
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I worry that the TikTok generation won't sit still for

584
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Dead of No, No they won't. Well they should, and

585
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>you should be watching Asylum as well, you pricks.

586
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.599
<v Speaker 3>But if they're listening to this podcast, there's a chance

587
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:08.839
<v Speaker 3>they can do. So. Yeah, that's why we're.

588
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 4>Doing that, is true.

589
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I guess we should mention Herbert Lahm

590
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.160
<v Speaker 2>here because he's fucking fantastic and I always love seeing Yeah,

591
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.200
<v Speaker 2>mainly known comedically from those fucking Pink Panther movies. But

592
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.359
<v Speaker 2>the reason he's so, he's such a good dramatic actor

593
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>and got just like one scene basically here, and he's

594
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 2>fucking captivating. Do you know what when somebody says the

595
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 2>words of the Dead Zone the Stephen King movie, I

596
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:33.920
<v Speaker 2>think of Herbert lam.

597
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:36.680
<v Speaker 4>He said that movie few seconds.

598
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, you know everything is the whole thing

599
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:43.960
<v Speaker 3>with people that are constantly looking for the origin of

600
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.799
<v Speaker 3>story elements in modern and then they attack them because

601
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.559
<v Speaker 3>if they can figure out what an antecedent to, what

602
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>previous use of that story element and another thing that

603
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.680
<v Speaker 3>gives them something to rip it and say, oh, that's

604
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 3>just X, not realizing that all the movies that they

605
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.160
<v Speaker 3>love that they think are so original, they just don't know.

606
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 3>They just don't know where that came, you know. And

607
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 3>most of the things that you see in modern sci

608
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.680
<v Speaker 3>fi and horror, you know, especially if it's twisty at all.

609
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the sixth Sense is just a big Twilight

610
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Twilight Zone. I always keep coming back to it because

611
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 3>when I need to get because everything you see now

612
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.400
<v Speaker 3>is just it's taken from three or four or five

613
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Twilight Zones and they just put it together. But you

614
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.200
<v Speaker 3>find all those twists in an episode. That's why I.

615
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 4>Said we're gonna wrap things up here.

616
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>But I do have a very particular question for you now,

617
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 2>very since it's a very very important question. What is

618
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>your favorite two Light Zone episode?

619
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>That would be impossible. There are so many that I adore,

620
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 3>but our names, but I'll name a few that have

621
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.960
<v Speaker 3>been influential. Sometimes I don't have a title memrized.

622
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 4>I'll help if I can.

623
00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 3>I did it. I did it one time, getting but

624
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 3>one day it was influential on Tales from the Hood.

625
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna just name ones that have had influence. Because

626
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I had a twilight his own festival and all my friends,

627
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:11.319
<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm gonna play my favorite. It went on

628
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.720
<v Speaker 3>for thirty six hours because there was so many I

629
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 3>was playing. I played half the friend show. People were coming, going, leaving,

630
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 3>coming back. That is the greatest.

631
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:28.200
<v Speaker 4>If you do that again, coming, I.

632
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Will, And it was fantastic. But I'll tell you one

633
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.119
<v Speaker 3>that was very influential was the one with Lee Marvin

634
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Lee van Cleeve, where Lee Marvin goes up to the grave.

635
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 3>He's been dared by this guy who's supposed to be

636
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<v Speaker 3>hunting down and everybody bets him that he won't have

637
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<v Speaker 3>the nerve to go up to the hill at midnight

638
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<v Speaker 3>because this guy before he died said this guy ever comes,

639
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<v Speaker 3>So they hate if he ever comes anywhere near my grave.

640
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<v Speaker 3>And I come and I'm gonna crap, And so nobody

641
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 3>thinks Lee Marvin will have the guts to do it.

642
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 3>Lee Marvin goes up there. He does it, plunges the

643
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<v Speaker 3>knife into the ground to prove that he was there,

644
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<v Speaker 3>and then as he starts to get up, we see

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<v Speaker 3>him go and he's yanked back down. And the next

646
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<v Speaker 3>morning they go up there and they find him. And

647
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<v Speaker 3>what's so creepy about it is his sister who has

648
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<v Speaker 3>been taunting and telling them you want mess with etc.

649
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<v Speaker 3>Lee van Cleef has a theory. He says, it's clear

650
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<v Speaker 3>what happened. He had this long coat on. He kneeled

651
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<v Speaker 3>over the grave, plunge the knife into the grave and

652
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't realize that he plunged it through his own coat.

653
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<v Speaker 3>So when he got up to leave, he felt a

654
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<v Speaker 3>tug had a heart died right there. He was already

655
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<v Speaker 3>scared half to death. That killed him. And the sister says, oh,

656
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<v Speaker 3>you think that's what happened? What wind? What direction was

657
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 3>the wind blowing northeast same as not. She stands over

658
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 3>the grave, she takes this cloak that she has, she

659
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.200
<v Speaker 3>spreads it. We see that the wind is blowing the

660
00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:00.279
<v Speaker 3>cloak away from not to and it's such a creepy.

661
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 3>A good twilight zone always sent a shival.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the grave that's the name of that episode,

663
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and that was that was actually James Best, not not

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<v Speaker 2>Lee Marvin.

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<v Speaker 4>In that one, Lee Marvin was in Steel.

666
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Lee Marvin's James Best. This one, Lee Marvin is the

667
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 3>tough guy and James Best the wimpy asshole who who

668
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.679
<v Speaker 3>wants to bet it and that really infuriately Marvin. But

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<v Speaker 3>you are, you're a scaredy cat, you're a coward and

670
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 3>you're betting me on mine. So anyway, how that relates

671
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.280
<v Speaker 3>to Tales from the Hood that actually supposed to be

672
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 3>the end of the doll EPs real. Yes, what was

673
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.960
<v Speaker 3>supposed to happen was the dolls chase him around and

674
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 3>then the next day they come in and they find

675
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:44.719
<v Speaker 3>him hanging hung from the ceiling and they said, well,

676
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 3>it's clear he killed him. So he climbed up on

677
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.440
<v Speaker 3>the table and did this and we actually shot it,

678
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.159
<v Speaker 3>but the tables way over there. How did he get

679
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 3>onto it and someone stands underneath him and it was

680
00:34:56.280 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be like that, Yeah, and we finished, but

681
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.639
<v Speaker 3>the studio said, you know, this episode needs more of

682
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 3>a punch at the instead.

683
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Instead of a mystery, just kind of creepy mystery.

684
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<v Speaker 3>They said, we'll give you another one hundred and fifty

685
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars, you can go back and the dolls eating.

686
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 3>And that's what we did. And in a rare case, the.

687
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<v Speaker 2>Studio was I didn't have a problem.

688
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.400
<v Speaker 3>It was a better ending. It was a better ending.

689
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 3>They give us some money to do it. Hey, so anyway,

690
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 3>we'll be here. We could be here for six hours

691
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 3>if I start going through all of it. But that's

692
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<v Speaker 3>one that had an impact on something. I mentioned that.

693
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<v Speaker 3>Obviously everyone that Burgess married, if we talked about they

694
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<v Speaker 3>were all.

695
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<v Speaker 4>And had that tingle that that you mentioned.

696
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, so his were great. The Jack Klugman's were great.

697
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<v Speaker 3>I'm going by actors, the ones Jack Klugman when we

698
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 3>were great. Thirty great episodes.

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<v Speaker 4>Of Twilight Zone. Episode of all time is the Howling.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome, Charles.

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<v Speaker 2>The talk about a spine chilling thing where that's the

702
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking slow zoom in on that door with the little

703
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 2>thing coming off at the end and there's like a

704
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>puff of smoke and a howl and that's where we

705
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:07.400
<v Speaker 2>cut to black at the end.

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck you, rud Certainly I didn't sleep for weeks.

707
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 3>That's a creepy one, especially the transformation as he walks

708
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 3>past the pillars. Is cleverly done because they didn't have

709
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:19.400
<v Speaker 3>me Compewter and it's cool and you like and the

710
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 3>old LaDue.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're good, they're good.

712
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 3>It's no, that's a great one. That's a great one.

713
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.360
<v Speaker 3>There's so many that's great. Have me on again. Sometimes, Yeah,

714
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 3>we'll talk to talk about Twilight Zone, but we have

715
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<v Speaker 3>to cut it into you know, sci fi space or

716
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 3>brother because that's the only way that my love for

717
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 3>the show is manageable where I can say, Okay, well

718
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.360
<v Speaker 3>let's talk about those. Otherwise I'm talking about thirty forty

719
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<v Speaker 3>different Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I can super narrow the genre down for you know,

721
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 2>make it super specific, like it has to have this

722
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<v Speaker 2>and this and this, this kind of an element that'll

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00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 2>be fun. Actually, I'll come up with some of them.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, all right, that sounds great.

725
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Mister Darren Scott. What have you got coming out? You

726
00:36:57.159 --> 00:36:58.679
<v Speaker 2>got anything working on you want to let the people

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<v Speaker 2>know about.

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<v Speaker 3>We're working actually on the TV series version of Tales

729
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:05.360
<v Speaker 3>from Hopefully we're going to be able to get it off.

730
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 3>There got some great stories, so your fingers and you'll

731
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.280
<v Speaker 3>see the Sea Tales from the Hood live on and

732
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<v Speaker 3>I will the circling full back the way that the

733
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 3>wrap around works and tales would not have existed if

734
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 3>not for Acyl because connecting it to a story and

735
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 3>finding out, oh, my wrap around characters are characters from

736
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 3>a story. Bah blah blah. That's because the side and everything,

737
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:33.000
<v Speaker 3>and of course the Clarence Williams part of it, what

738
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 3>could have been a nice part.

739
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 4>And incredibly he's real scary at the end. Then he's

740
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.559
<v Speaker 4>really scary. Clarence Williams could always be scary.

741
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Remember that movie Against the Wall, the Attica prison riot movie,

742
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>the Frankenheimer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, yes, yes, oh he just had this gravitass

744
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 3>that makes him.

745
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Hot soup motherfucker. He lives in my brain, that that

746
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:57.639
<v Speaker 2>version of Clarence Williams, the unhinged version.

747
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<v Speaker 4>Let's allow again.

748
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<v Speaker 2>We'll digress forever here, sir, I'm gonna ride it all right,

749
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 2>great once again, Thank you for joining us here at.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me on. I really enjoyed it entirely.

751
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 4>Our pleasure, man, and stay in touch. We should do

752
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 4>this again sometimes.

753
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm totally up for it. I had a good time,

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00:38:17.039 --> 00:39:11.599
<v Speaker 3>all right, I'll talk to you soon. A minute