WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:08.279 Three and fifty million Americans oil listeners. Damn, you got 2 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:13.640 a long way to go. Yeah, but. 3 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:20.800 The twelve that we have are of the lowest possible 4 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:23.160 quality you could ever. 5 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:29.280 Find, but extremely loyal, though extremely loyal, but extreme losers, 6 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:31.440 absolute losers. 7 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:37.479 And no matter how seriously we try to swat you away, 8 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:39.759 you just keep coming on back. 9 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:46.359 Or is it Stockholm syndrome? 10 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.119 Yeah, yeah, that seems likely. Want to do is Stockholm syndrome? 11 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:52.479 So let's let's just. 12 00:00:54.640 --> 00:01:02.359 Do you remember, for example, this this is about about 13 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:03.399 about a year ago. 14 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:10.359 But comparing that guy's mental state, I've said it for 15 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:14.159 years now, he's cogent, But I undersold him when I 16 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:18.840 said he was cogent. He's far beyond cogent. In fact, 17 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:25.480 I think he's better than he's ever been intellectually, analytically, 18 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.599 because he's been around for fifty years. And you know, 19 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:32.840 I don't know if people know this or not. Biden 20 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.480 used to be a hothead sometimes. 21 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:39.400 Oh he's always been a hot head. He's still a 22 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:39.879 hot head. 23 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:43.480 During the election, he was trying to challenge Trump to 24 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:45.280 a push up contest, and he would take him out 25 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:46.959 back behind the barn and beat him. 26 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:51.799 Remember that I've witnessed the hot headedness of Joe Biden. 27 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:54.640 He and John McCain were two peas in the pond 28 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:57.400 when it came to their temper and their abuse of 29 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.920 their staff went now, not because their loyal immediate staff 30 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:06.400 got treated like royalty, but if you were the second 31 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:09.080 tier staff, you were treated like dirt. 32 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:17.680 And intellectually analytically, because he's been around for fifty years, 33 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.039 and you know, I don't know if people know this 34 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.680 or not, Biden used to be a hothead sometimes that 35 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:28.240 irishman would get in front of the reasoning. Sometimes you 36 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:31.199 would say things he didn't want to say. This is 37 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:34.960 and I don't really you know what they don't really 38 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:38.280 start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell 39 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:38.919 you the truth. 40 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:43.879 Start the day and FU if. 41 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:51.280 You can't handle the truth. This version of Biden, intellectually, 42 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:56.439 analytically is the best Biden ever, not a close second. 43 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:59.120 And I've known him for years. The presentskis have known 44 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:02.319 him for fifty years. If it weren't the truth, I 45 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:03.199 wouldn't say it. 46 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:11.759 And if it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it. Now. 47 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:17.800 Many of you, the women and men of this jury, 48 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:22.360 all twelve of you are thinking yourself, Okay, I've heard 49 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:27.319 that a bazillion times, and uh, you know he was lying? 50 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:38.439 Oh was he? Or does he actually believe it? Because 51 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:42.479 I think both can be simultaneously true. I think he 52 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:46.560 knows he's lying. At least he's exaggerating, he's pontificating, he's 53 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:50.639 at least he's at least a little hyperbole here. But 54 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:56.639 he is saying to his audience, you need to believe 55 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:57.319 what I say. 56 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.840 Wasn't that a Seinfeld thing? If it's not a lie, 57 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:01.280 if you believe it, If you. 58 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:05.120 Believe it, that's exactly right. So you need to stop 59 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:11.199 internalizing that. Oh, Michael's just you know, digging in, digging in, 60 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.879 digging in, digging in. No, I'm actually hoping that there 61 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.839 will be a light bulb go off in your brains 62 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:23.759 and at some point you'll say, holy crap. Every time 63 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:27.120 Brown talks about the cabal, he talks about how he's 64 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:29.800 gotten to the point where he's it's not I don't 65 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:32.879 think it's cynicism. I think it's just reality that if 66 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:36.000 if it's on the networks, for that matter, if it's 67 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:39.240 on Fox News, I might be a little more inclined 68 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:43.000 to get Fox News some leeway, but I've reached the 69 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.639 point where I don't believe any of them. I'm gonna 70 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:50.279 go confirm myself that is this really? What's what's the context? 71 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:56.040 What's the kind You know, if you hear Tapper trying 72 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:59.920 to rationalize why he said some of the things that 73 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.480 he said, most of it's done in the context of 74 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:06.839 what you need to in the context of that's kind 75 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:10.120 of funny he does it, and well, you need to 76 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:14.519 understand the context in which we were talking about these things, 77 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:19.279 in which in which these things were occurring. Really, why 78 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:22.800 why do we need any context? Why do we need 79 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:33.040 context whatsoever? Now, if if you don't think that these 80 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:39.519 people are pretty evil, let's walk through some of the 81 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:46.680 interview that occurred today this morning with Jake Tapper as 82 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.439 he's trying to sell the books on the same he's 83 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:53.639 now appeared to give you context the guy that you 84 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:58.040 just heard Joe Scarborough who said, this is the finest 85 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:04.519 Biden I've ever known. And Synski's my my little trophy 86 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:08.319 wife over here, Mika, her family has known the Bidens 87 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:11.720 for fifty years and this is the best Biden ever. 88 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.639 You're around a guy for hours and hours and hours. 89 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:19.519 I guess the question is, what's the takeaway here? 90 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:22.920 What did you learn? Because we wait, did you? 91 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:23.920 Did you pick it up. 92 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:24.399 In real time? 93 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:27.839 So well, I just I saw what everybody else saw, right. 94 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:35.040 Oh, so he saw what everybody else saw. You know, 95 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:38.439 if I were Tapper, I would at that point said, 96 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:40.720 well what about when you said he was the best 97 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:44.360 Biden ever? Because everybody saw. You know, It's kind of 98 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:48.560 funny because Tapper kind of turns to his right and 99 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:52.079 gestures toward I guess the other people on the panel 100 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:55.319 that are on Morning Joe, and I guess maybe to 101 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:58.360 the cameraman and the producers and maybe just everybody out there. 102 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:02.120 And you know that the eleven people that Scarborough has 103 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:02.839 listened to him. 104 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:05.680 I saw what everybody else saw, the stumbles in front 105 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:07.399 of the camera and that. But I saw him in 106 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:11.439 person in for the State of the Union lunch and 107 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:14.319 that they do with anchors in early twenty twenty three, 108 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:16.680 and that I didn't see him in person. Other than that, 109 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.279 I will say two things. One of them is there 110 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:25.000 were more moments of non functioning Biden behind the scenes 111 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.560 that than we were privy to. That we saw than 112 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:29.560 what we saw. 113 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:33.040 And That's the rationale he Chase tried to use in 114 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:35.480 every interview that I've heard. I've heard maybe three or 115 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:39.600 four different interviews since I got the book yesterday, And 116 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:44.800 that's the main rationale, is that, yeah, there were a 117 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.560 lot of things that we saw that you know, were public, 118 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:49.800 that everybody else. 119 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:53.800 Saw, but stioning Biden behind the scenes, that than we 120 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:55.160 were privy to. 121 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:58.959 Oh so we weren't privy to it. Here's the question 122 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:05.000 I would ask. You just said you saw everything else 123 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:09.199 that we saw, and that led you to decide to 124 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:13.439 write a book about how bad things were and who 125 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:17.759 was really running the presidency? Why didn't you ask those 126 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:24.360 questions when you weren't When you say you weren't privy, 127 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:30.639 well maybe you weren't privy because you never asked the question. 128 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:42.039 You never asked. Heykarine, Jean Pierre, may I have fifteen minutes, 129 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.440 may thirty minutes of your time. I'd like to talk 130 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:49.519 to you about the president's condition and go do a 131 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:53.360 one on one in her office or wherever she wants 132 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:57.919 to meet and have a discussion about what's really going on. 133 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:02.679 You keep telling us no, even off the record, even 134 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:06.519 if you just want to get some background. There's no 135 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:12.200 indication anywhere that he ever attempted to just do nothing 136 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:16.279 more than accept the denials from everybody that kept doing 137 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:17.799 the public denials. 138 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:20.559 That we saw then what we saw. If there are 139 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:22.399 two Joe Biden, says, the one that you saw that 140 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:25.320 you just described, and then there's the one who's non functioning, 141 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:28.320 like what we saw at the debate night, can't follow 142 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:30.519 his train of thought, can't come up with names, can't 143 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:32.480 remember dates what you listened to in the her report, 144 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:35.360 or he's like unsure of when his son deployed, unsure 145 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.039 when his son died. Tragic stuff, But he really honestly 146 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.519 doesn't know those dates. That non functioning Biden reared his 147 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.200 head more and more and more. Now, one thing in 148 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:50.519 your specific case, Joe, our reporting indicates that Joe Biden, 149 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:53.720 who as you know, is a frequent viewer of the show, 150 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:57.399 saw when David Ignatius wrote that column and I think 151 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:00.440 August twenty twenty three saying that Joe I should not 152 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:02.919 run for reelection because of what he had been hearing, right, 153 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:05.320 and he came on this show and you guys had 154 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:08.399 a robust conversation about this. You largely agreed that you 155 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:10.679 had been hearing things about this, but that there was 156 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:13.200 really no alternative, that Kamala Harris was not up to 157 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:15.519 the job. That's what democrats were telling you behind the scenes. 158 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:21.360 You get what I mean this. If you want any 159 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:30.320 concrete evidence of the intertwined relationship between what MSNBC does 160 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:34.320 on a daily basis to their audience, it is you 161 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:38.240 know the old you remember Limball used to joke about 162 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:42.559 how the what do he called them? The seminar listeners. 163 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:46.759 I think the seminar listeners that would call in and 164 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.200 they would have Democrat talking points trying to attack him, 165 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:53.240 and Limball would laugh them off and talk about, how, 166 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.440 you know, I don't get my talking points from the 167 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:58.240 RNC or anybody else. You know, what you get is 168 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:03.039 me blah blah blah blah. Well, those seminar callers that 169 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:07.440 would call into Limbaugh are the people that listen to 170 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:14.320 Scarborough and his ilk, Will Flitzer and you know Caitlyn Collins, 171 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:18.600 Jake Tapper, anybody the networks, all the anchors of the Networks, 172 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:24.200 nor O'donald, all of them. They would just take, okay, well, 173 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.519 if this is our mission to cover this up, then 174 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.279 we will be complicit in doing that it's pretty much 175 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:32.559 what Tapper's admitting right here. 176 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:37.080 Joe Biden saw that. Joe Biden said to staffers that 177 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:40.840 he wanted to convince you that you were wrong. And 178 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:44.399 he focused on you like you were a constituency, like 179 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:46.879 you were farmers in Iowa, like you were the Kawanas 180 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:49.639 Club in New Hampshire, and he made sure that you thought. 181 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:53.080 He made sure that you thought differently. I think he 182 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:55.480 did this with a couple people. I think he did 183 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:57.159 it with me Chum. He might have done it with 184 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:59.960 Evan Osnos. He knew that there were people that had 185 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:02.840 to be convinced that he was fine, and he tried 186 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:03.440 to prove that. 187 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:09.360 To you, and he must have. He must have succeeded because. 188 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:15.519 But comparing that guy's mental state, I've said it for 189 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:19.440 years now, he's cogent. But I undersold him when I 190 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:24.000 said he was cogent. He's far beyond cogent. In fact, 191 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:30.720 I think he's better than he's ever been intellectually, analytically, 192 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:35.799 because he's been around for fifty years. And you know, 193 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:37.960 I don't know if people know this or not. Bid 194 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:42.320 used to be a hothead sometimes that irishman would get 195 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:43.679 in front of the reasoning. 196 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:47.919 Sometimes, Oh so let's rationalize, you know, because he's I 197 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:50.320 thought he was Dominican, I thought he was Hispanic, I 198 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:53.879 thought he was black, I thought he was Indian. I 199 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:57.399 thought he was anything but Irish. But I guess sometimes 200 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:01.559 he was Irish. So here's Scarborough trying to throw in. 201 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.639 You know, you know, he sometimes would say things that 202 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.399 he shouldn't say, because well, he was just mad. So 203 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:12.360 he became a little irrational. He got hot headed, and 204 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:14.639 so you might say things that were, you know, probably 205 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:16.039 impertinent to say. 206 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.320 Sometimes you would say things he didn't want to say. 207 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:22.879 This is and I don't really you know what, I 208 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:25.960 don't really care to start your tape right now because 209 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:29.240 I'm about to tell you the truth and few if 210 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:36.759 you can't handle the truth, This version of Biden, intellectually, 211 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:41.919 analytically is the best Biden ever, not a close second. 212 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.639 And I've known him for years, the presents have known 213 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:47.840 him for fifty years. If it weren't the truth, I 214 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:48.720 wouldn't say it. 215 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:49.240 Hmm. 216 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:54.720 If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it. There 217 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:59.639 you have it. That's exactly what's going on here. Is Biden, 218 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:02.840 and not just Biden, but that pollit bureau that I 219 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:07.399 referred to earlier, that close group that really controlled everything 220 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:15.600 that Biden did. Yes, that came directly at Joe Scarborough. 221 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:22.159 They were they were determined, determined that they could, and 222 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:27.279 they succeeded in convincing a constituent of one because that 223 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:33.320 constituent of one reaches their preferred audience, who already suffers 224 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:38.639 from Trump derangement syndrome. And now they've been given an 225 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.480 injection of you know, whatever you might want to call it, 226 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:46.320 to boost that, not to eliminate, but to boost that 227 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:52.120 Trump and derangement syndrome. Not an antibody, but an actual 228 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:58.399 medication to uh make that Trump derangement syndrome curse through 229 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:00.279 their veins even more worse. 230 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:04.159 All right. 231 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.720 Joining US sale anchor and chief Washington correspondent for CNN 232 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:12.639 Jake Tapper and national political correspondent for Axius Alex Thompson, 233 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:16.320 they are co authors of the new book entitled Original Sin, 234 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:21.360 President Phiden's Decline, It's cover Up, and his disastrous choice 235 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:25.519 to run again. Interesting timing for the book, given everything. 236 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:29.399 Good to have you both on. I guess at first 237 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.559 I'll start with kind of an obvious question, but Jake, 238 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:34.759 is it fair to say that Joe Biden had a 239 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:40.679 successful presidency, remarkable presidency, possibly even a historic presidency in 240 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.000 his time in office. 241 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:45.600 Well, he certainly feels that way, and we don't really render. 242 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:47.360 It when you look at the legislation that he passed 243 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.360 and his accomplishments and how it ranks against other presidents. 244 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:53.600 I'm not here to render a verdict and how successful 245 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:57.519 a president he was, Certainly he feels that way. You 246 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.159 can point to any number of accomplishments he has he 247 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.000 had having to do with NATO or the Infrastructure Bill, 248 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:07.039 or the Chips Act, and on and on, and that 249 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:10.799 will be for history to decide. Obviously, the American people 250 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:12.879 thought that the country was on the wrong track and 251 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:17.000 took issue with the border and inflation and his age 252 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:21.960 and acuity. But this book is more focused on what happened. 253 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:24.919 You know, we all saw the debate June twenty seventh, 254 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.720 and we were all shocked. We all stunned at his 255 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:32.559 inability to communicate his thoughts and the record that you 256 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:35.000 speak of to the American people. And Alex and I 257 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:36.759 set out to figure out what happened. 258 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:43.120 Right so so so, Mika starts out the entire interview 259 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:46.159 with don't you have to admit that he had a 260 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:52.080 historic presidency? And Tapper, of course, you know, he thinks yes, 261 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.279 but he can't say that. He has to deflect it. 262 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:59.440 That's not what we're here for. That's for history to judge. 263 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:01.799 Look at the inflation. And then he goes to list 264 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:04.960 all the things that in their minds, in the cabal's 265 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:11.279 mind are winners, are all great accomplishments. Now, to give 266 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.359 Tappara a many little bit of credit, he does point 267 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:17.880 out that the majority of Americans thought the country was 268 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:20.759 on the wrong track because of those things, and so 269 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:25.880 they chose to go a different direction. But this is 270 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:28.960 the Cabal, and this is Jake Tapper trying to tap 271 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:34.200 around his membership. In fact, he's probably one of the 272 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:38.640 top ten members of the Cabal, and yet try to 273 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:43.319 sell a book about the frailties and the cover up 274 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:50.880 of which, in my opinion, he unequivocally was a part of. Hey, 275 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:52.839 let's go to Gary over at the retirement Planning Center 276 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:54.440 of the Rockies. Gary, how you doing today? 277 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:58.119 Hey, good morning, Michael. I'm doing well. How about you? 278 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:00.480 I'm doing good. So I've got the question in front 279 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.759 of me but it says, let me just read it away. 280 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.000 I'd like to read it. When is it the right 281 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:09.480 time for me to seek professional help? Because I need 282 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:10.839 professional help just in general. 283 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.759 Well, some of that help I can't provide, Okay. 284 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:20.519 All right. I just wanted to see what the limitations 285 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:23.279 of the retirement planning so the Rockies were, So now 286 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:25.119 I get it. So I can't come to you for 287 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:28.200 that kind of help. So the question is when is 288 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:31.160 it the right time to seek professional help from the 289 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:35.160 retirement planning of the Rockies? And what is your retirement timeline? 290 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:39.039 Well, let me share with you though a lot of 291 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:41.359 people think they just wait till the last minute and 292 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:43.839 do their retirement planning when they're ready to retire. And 293 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:45.480 that's a. 294 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:50.880 Real a scary proposition. Let me use an analogy. 295 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:51.000 Of a mountain. 296 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:54.920 So we work our whole lives and we climb this mountain, 297 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:57.680 and we call the mountain the mountain of accumulation. In 298 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:01.240 other words, we're trying to gather and save as much 299 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:04.039 money as we absolutely cancel that we can have this 300 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:08.039 ultimate retirement amount on the day we're ready to retire. 301 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:12.640 Interestingly enough, because we get up this mountain and we 302 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:17.279 near retirement, we enter what we call the retirement hazard zone. 303 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:23.039 This is a period Michael, of probably ten twelve years 304 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:28.079 before retirement where people typically begin to size back the 305 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:31.880 risk and nature of the investments because they would rather 306 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:35.279 have maybe a little less gain than a potential for 307 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:40.200 a strong downturn when they meet this retirement date, they're 308 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:44.720 trying to accomplish, and so that's when we begin to 309 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:48.640 strategize and put things in place, because the rules. 310 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:50.480 Of accumulation that get you and I up this. 311 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:53.839 Mountain are wonderful, but you know what, they don't work 312 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:57.240 to get us off the mountain. A good friend of 313 00:19:57.279 --> 00:19:59.680 mine once told me, he said, and by the way, 314 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:01.720 this is the guy who climbed down there with the 315 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:03.160 first American without the. 316 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:04.000 Use of oxygen. 317 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:07.400 His name is Larry Nilson. He lives in Olympia, Washington. 318 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.240 Larry said, interestingly enough, most people when they climb mountains, 319 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:15.880 seventy five percent die coming down, not going up. And 320 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:19.319 I find that interesting, and that really applies as well 321 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:23.160 to retirement planning, because if you don't have good rules 322 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:27.920 of distribution in place, believe me, the rules that you 323 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:30.200 used to get up the mountain will not work as 324 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:34.839 well to get you down. So we understand as retirement 325 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:38.200 income certified professionals, we understand how to get people off 326 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:38.720 the mountain. 327 00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:42.039 And of course we tell people all the time listen, 328 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:44.599 our goal is very simple. We want you to sleep 329 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:45.240 well at night. 330 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:47.799 We want you to do that knowing that you've got 331 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:51.559 a good comprehensive plan in place, that we're in your corner, 332 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:54.759 and that you don't have to sit in fear for 333 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:57.680 the things they had because we're going to implement long 334 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:00.680 time proven strategies that will help and bless do that. 335 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:04.359 So that's how we work with the retirement timeline. And 336 00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:07.920 believe me, the longer we can let this scene build 337 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.039 and grow, the better it is. And so we try 338 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:13.759 to get people started if we can ten to twelve 339 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:17.440 years before it's time to retire, to build this comprehensive plan. 340 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:20.519 But the same so so someone that's just as I 341 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:22.920 often say, if you're just starting out and you're thinking 342 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.920 your first job, that's a great time to sit down 343 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:29.599 with you guys too. But if you fa But if 344 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.960 you fail to do that and you're you know at 345 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:35.680 that point where you really are, you know, even coming 346 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:38.559 down the mountain, you can still call you guys, and 347 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:41.240 you can still at least look at their situation and 348 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:43.440 determine whether or not you could still help them. 349 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:48.279 Absolutely, we'll help anybody because I've seen very few people 350 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:50.240 that have ever come into our office that we can't 351 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:53.519 offer some things that are going to benefit them financially 352 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:55.200 and especially with their peace. 353 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:57.640 Of mind and help them sleep at night. So if 354 00:21:57.680 --> 00:21:59.920 you if you, if you want to sleep at night, 355 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.400 then you need to pick up the phone. Please call 356 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:05.200 these guys, because trust me, they're going to treat you 357 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:07.960 fairly and honestly. So call the Retirement Planning some of 358 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:10.720 the rockies today. If even if you've put it off, 359 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:14.200 there's that's that's not a problem. Call them anyway and 360 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.000 you tell them Michael Brown sent you nine seven zero 361 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:20.160 six six three thirty two eleven. They'll treat you right. 362 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:23.759 Nine seven zero six six three thirty two eleven. Or 363 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:25.759 go check out their website. Go check it out right 364 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:33.279 now rpcenter dot com. Let me just wrap up on 365 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:41.039 the whole Biden thing, because the science is pretty clear, 366 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:46.759 as we've discussed earlier. In fact, here here's doctor Ezekiel, 367 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:53.200 the oncologist Ram Emmanuel's brother, father of Obamacare, on with morning. 368 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.960 Joe, Oh, more than several years. 369 00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:57.720 You don't get it. 370 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:02.599 I just want to stop you. So your this is 371 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:06.640 this is not speculation. If you have prostate cancer that 372 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.559 has spread to the bone, then he's most certainly you 373 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:12.960 were saying, had it when he was president of the 374 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:14.160 United States. 375 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.079 Oh yeah, Oh, he did not develop it in the 376 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:19.839 last two hundred days. 377 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:21.480 He had it while he was president. 378 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:22.319 He probably had. 379 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:28.200 It at the start of his presidency in twenty twenty one. Yes, 380 00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:31.960 that I don't think. Don't is any question about that. 381 00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:35.480 So doctor Kevin O'Connor, who's the White House physician for 382 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:39.359 a Biden, repeatedly assured us that he was in good 383 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.720 health in twenty one, twenty three, and even twenty four. 384 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:46.319 The annual physicals were portrayed as routine, not alarming. They 385 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:50.039 were clean. You know, girl, Dad asked, you know, maybe 386 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:52.759 the COVID treatments where really he was really you know, 387 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:55.559 he was suffering about you know, the cancer was really 388 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:58.599 causing problems. Others of you noted on the text line 389 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:02.279 the bruises on the hands. You know, you're getting chemo sometimes, 390 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:04.200 you know, that's the vein that they might use. They 391 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:05.880 put a port there on the back of your hand 392 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:09.720 and you end up with bruises. So if the PSA 393 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:12.839 scores were normal, where are those records? Where are they? 394 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:17.359 If they were abnormal, why were we told otherwise? Either 395 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:20.759 the doctors committed medical malpractice or they were engaging in 396 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:25.359 political productionism. Either answer indicts the integrity of the presidency. 397 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:27.880 And that's the point that I'm trying to get at. 398 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:31.319 The timeline matters. Biden the NASA's re election bid in 399 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:35.480 April twenty three. By every medical probability, he was already 400 00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:38.480 living with prostate cancer then, and he didn't tell anybody 401 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.559