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<v Speaker 1>Imagine keeping a secret for thirty four months. Wow, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean one fifty four days to be exact.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. That is over a thousand days of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>waking up, going to work, maybe even driving past a

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<v Speaker 1>very specific stretch of rural.

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<v Speaker 2>Road and knowing exactly what is out there, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing exactly what is buried out there in the dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>You were just living your life, going about your routine

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<v Speaker 1>in this small Midwestern.

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<v Speaker 2>Town, right, blending in exactly well.

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<v Speaker 1>Simultaneously, like an entire state's law enforcement apparatus is slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>methodically and invisibly closing in.

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<v Speaker 2>On you, which is just a terrifying thought for the suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, So today we are going to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the exact machinery that finally caught up to that secret.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it is a profound psychological burden for the suspect,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But on the other side of that equation

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<v Speaker 2>you have the relentless, just unyielding mechanism of the state,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is what makes our focus today so compelling

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<v Speaker 2>for you, the listener. We aren't looking at like a

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<v Speaker 2>narrative true crime book.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, I know, dramatic reenactments, no.

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<v Speaker 2>We are looking at the raw architectural blueprint of an investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's unpack this. Our mission on this deep dive

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<v Speaker 1>is to deconstruct a single primary source.

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<v Speaker 2>Document, just one document, just one.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a press release issued on May eighteenth, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, by the Iowa Department of Public Safety the DPS.

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<v Speaker 2>And on its surface, I mean, if you just glance

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<v Speaker 2>at it.

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<v Speaker 1>On your phone, yeah, it looks like nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's maybe a four paragraph announcement of an arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sterile. It's totally bureaucratic, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you look at the structure of this document,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the organizational footprint of the massive state website

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<v Speaker 1>it lives.

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<v Speaker 2>On, oh yeah, the menus, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Links exactly, and the very deliberate legal language it employs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it becomes this high resolution window into the

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<v Speaker 1>life cycle of a tragedy.

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<v Speaker 2>It really does. This document represents the exact bureaucratic and

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<v Speaker 2>forensic machinery required to her a local missing person report

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<v Speaker 2>filed in the summer of twenty twenty three into a

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<v Speaker 2>highly complex state level homicide arrest in the spring of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's set the stage for you. The case center's

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<v Speaker 1>on Jesse George. He's a thirty five year old man

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<v Speaker 1>living in Missouri Valley, Iowa. Right, And on June twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, he vanished, just gone, just gone. A

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<v Speaker 1>missing person report was filed with the local police, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a massive gap, a huge gap. Yeah. Now fast

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<v Speaker 1>forward to May eighteenth, twenty twenty six, the date of

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<v Speaker 1>our source document, and we are suddenly looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>arrest of Joseph Langford, a fifty two year old man

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<v Speaker 1>also from Missouri Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>So the genesis of this case is that initial report

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<v Speaker 2>to the Missouri Valley Police Department on June twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three. Right, someone realizes Jesse George is gone

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<v Speaker 2>and they make the call. That is the starting line,

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<v Speaker 2>the very beginning. But it's the gap between that date

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<v Speaker 2>and the arrest that tells the real story of this investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to pause on that exact gap, because

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<v Speaker 1>this is where the reality of missing person cases totally

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<v Speaker 1>collides with the television version we all have in our heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, for sure, TV makes it look so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we were talking about June twenty twenty three to

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<v Speaker 1>April twenty twenty six, That is when the text states

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<v Speaker 1>his remains were.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally found nearly three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, almost three full years. We always hear that statistic, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the first forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight hours the critical window.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. If you don't find someone in those first two days,

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<v Speaker 1>the probability of a positive outcome just drops off an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>It becomes a cold trail very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>So you might be thinking, how on earth does investigation

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<v Speaker 1>sustain momentum for thirty four months without a body, without

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<v Speaker 1>a defined crime scene, and without any physical starting point.

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<v Speaker 2>This raises an important question about the mechanics of a

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<v Speaker 2>long term investigation, because the answer is actually hidden in

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<v Speaker 2>a very specific, deliberate phrase in the press release. The

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<v Speaker 2>state rights that since the report was filed, law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>continued to work on the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Continue to work yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, in bureaucratic speak, that is a massive distinction. It

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<v Speaker 2>does not say the case was you know, reopen.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, or like a cool case, squad took a fresh look.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It implies a continuous, unbroken chain of investigative effort

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<v Speaker 2>over three.

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<v Speaker 1>Years, which requires a staggering amount of resources and discipline,

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<v Speaker 1>massive amounts, because think about it, To keep a case

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<v Speaker 1>active without physical remains means you aren't like dusting for

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<v Speaker 1>prints or taping off a room.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you have no physical room to tape off.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, You are chasing digital ghosts. You are tracking financials

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<v Speaker 1>to see if a bank account is touched.

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<v Speaker 2>You're monitoring social media for any sign of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pulling phone records, just waiting for a pin.

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<v Speaker 2>And you are dealing with the reality of negative evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Negative evidence. What do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when a person vanishes, the investigation initially focuses on

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<v Speaker 2>proving they are still alive. Oh, I see, Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>you check hospitals, you check jails, you check mortar crossings.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, try and find a heartbeat somewhere in the system.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, And when all of those come back negative month

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<v Speaker 2>after month, the absence of data becomes the data.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a really haunting way to put it. The

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<v Speaker 1>absence becomes the data.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. The lack of a digital footprint slowly confirms

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<v Speaker 2>the worst case scenario. But maintaining that level of vigilance.

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<v Speaker 1>Reinterviewing associates who might have changed their stories a.

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<v Speaker 2>Year later, Yes, all of that requires a structural endurance

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<v Speaker 2>that most local departments simply do not have on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>They just don't have the manpower. No, and that endurance

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<v Speaker 1>finally hits a breakthrough in April twenty twenty six. The

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<v Speaker 1>text tells us that law enforcement found human remains in

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<v Speaker 1>a rural location four miles northwest of Missouri.

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<v Speaker 2>Valley, which is very specific.

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<v Speaker 1>It is I want to zero in on that geographic specificity,

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<v Speaker 1>four miles northwest right. In a place like western Iowa,

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<v Speaker 1>a rural location is not just you know, a quiet park, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. You were talking about a landscape that

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<v Speaker 1>actively fights against an investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a crucial point. A rural environment in the

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<v Speaker 2>Midwest is highly dynamic. You are dealing with hundreds, if

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<v Speaker 2>not thousands of acres of agricultural land. Timber ravines and

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<v Speaker 2>changes constantly exactly. You are dealing with a landscape that

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<v Speaker 2>completely transforms every few months.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like trying to read a book where the pages

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<v Speaker 1>are being ripped out every time it rains or every

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<v Speaker 1>time a tractor drives over it. That's a great analogy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because the environment is actively erasing the text. You have

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<v Speaker 1>the spring planting season where massive machinery churns.

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<v Speaker 2>Up the earth, totally destroying any surface evidence exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have the summer canopy of corn that makes

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<v Speaker 1>aerial searches by drons or helicopters almost entirely useless.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't see a thing from the air in August,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the.

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<v Speaker 1>Autumn harvest, and then the deep winter freeze where the

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<v Speaker 1>ground turns to concrete.

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<v Speaker 2>Which means to find remains in a rural setting after

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<v Speaker 2>three years of those seasonal cycles. They didn't just stumble

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<v Speaker 2>upon them, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a casual walk through the woods, No, they

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<v Speaker 1>were lead there.

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<v Speaker 2>That geographic precision exactly four miles northwest tells us that

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<v Speaker 2>the continuous investigation finally yielded a highly specific data point.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of data point, like a tip?

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<v Speaker 2>It could have been an informant finally, they're silent, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but more likely given modern forensics, it was a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of historical cellular data, oh, like a phone ping exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>data that placed the suspect exactly four miles northwest of

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<v Speaker 2>town on the night of June twenty ninth, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So once they dig into that earth and find

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<v Speaker 1>those remains, the entire legal machinery shifts gears practically overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to The source notes that the remains were

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<v Speaker 1>positively identified as Jesse George, and then the Iowa office

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<v Speaker 1>the State Medical Examiner officially ruled his death a homicide.

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<v Speaker 2>The medical examiner's role is really the pivot point of

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<v Speaker 2>the entire document. Also, well up until that ruling, law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement technically just has a missing person who was found

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<v Speaker 2>to cease, right, which isn't inherently a crime exactly. There

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<v Speaker 2>are many reasons a person might pass away in a

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<v Speaker 2>rural area, exposure, a medical event, an accident while hiking. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But the moment the medical examiner applies the legal and

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<v Speaker 2>medical term homicide, the whole game changes fundamentally. The framework

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<v Speaker 2>of the state's response alters completely.

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<v Speaker 1>But how does a medical examiner look at remains that

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<v Speaker 1>have been exposed to Iowa winters and summers for three

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<v Speaker 1>years and definitively say, you know, this is a homicide.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredibly complexing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you don't have soft tissue to show a clear

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<v Speaker 1>stab wound or a ligature mark from strangulation anymore, right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It requires forensic anthropology and pathology working in tandem, because

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<v Speaker 2>even after three years, bones tell a very detailed story.

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<v Speaker 2>The medical examiner is looking for blunt force trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, like broken bones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but even microfractures in the skull that indicate a

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<v Speaker 2>strike rather than say a fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>They are also looking for tool marks on the bone,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps from a blade, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They could tell that apart from animal.

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<v Speaker 2>Marks, absolutely a bladely the very specific microscopic striations that

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<v Speaker 2>differ entirely from animal scavenging marks. That's why they are

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<v Speaker 2>also looking at the hyoid bone in the neck.

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<v Speaker 1>The hyoid bone, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a small U shaped bone in your neck. If

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<v Speaker 2>that is fractured, it is a very strong indicator of

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<v Speaker 2>manual strangulation, even years later.

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<v Speaker 1>So the bones literally provide the narrative of the violence

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<v Speaker 1>they do, and that narrative culminates. On May eighteenth, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, agents with the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation

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<v Speaker 1>the DCI, arrests Joseph.

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<v Speaker 2>Langford, the culmination of three years of work.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look at the charges leveled against him, because they

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<v Speaker 1>are incredibly telling about the nature of this crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the specific charges are very important here.

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<v Speaker 1>He is charged with murder in the first degree, which

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<v Speaker 1>the text explicitly notes is a class A felony right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is charged with abuse of a corpse, a

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<v Speaker 1>class E felony.

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<v Speaker 2>First degree murder is of course the apex charge. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a big one, right. It requires the state to prove

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<v Speaker 2>not just that Langford killed George, but that he did

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<v Speaker 2>so with malice, of forethought and premeditation.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't an accident exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It was planned and executed. But it's the second charge,

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<v Speaker 2>abuse of a corpse, that provides a grim context to

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<v Speaker 2>the entire three year timeline we've been discussing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was really turning this over in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>When we hear abuse of a corpse, Yeah, the mind

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<v Speaker 1>naturally goes to something like ritualistic.

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<v Speaker 1>The abuse, in a legal sense is the ultimate form

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, the legal definition of abusing a corpse often encompasses

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<v Speaker 2>the intentional hiding, burying, or concealment of the deceased. To

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<v Speaker 2>Swart Discovery, Hi, the evidence yes, by burying Jesse George

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<v Speaker 2>four miles northwest of town. The suspect wasn't just committing

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<v Speaker 2>a murder, right, they were committing an ongoing daily act

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<v Speaker 1>It's the state saying you didn't just take a life,

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<v Speaker 2>The state tax on that class C felony. To acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>Cover up, Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>It ensures that the act of hiding the body is

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<v Speaker 1>So we have a clear picture of the timeline, the environment,

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<v Speaker 1>and the charges we do. But what really fascinates me

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<v Speaker 1>about this primary source document is the interagency web.

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<v Speaker 2>It reveals the bureaucracy of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because this wasn't just a couple of local deputies

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<v Speaker 1>solving a three year old murder in a vacuum. The

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<v Speaker 2>If we look at the text, it lists a very

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<v Speaker 2>Valley Police Department, the agency that took the initial.

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<v Speaker 1>Report right the locals.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it mentions the Harrison County Sheriff's Office the county level,

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<v Speaker 1>So what does this all mean? When I see a

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<v Speaker 1>a weal to year manhunt simply break a local budget.

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<v Speaker 2>It is entirely an economy of scale. Yeah, think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>A local municipal department in a town like Missouri Valley

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<v Speaker 2>guys on patrol. Right. Their primary function is immediate response,

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<v Speaker 2>domestic disputes, traffic enforcement, immediate canvassing for a missing person,

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<v Speaker 2>the day to day stuff. They can handle the first

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight hours brilliantly, But when a thirty five year

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<v Speaker 1>Weeks, the budget just evaporates.

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<v Speaker 2>The required resources rapidly outstrip what a town budget can support.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't have your only two detectives chase down cell

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<v Speaker 1>town still needs policing.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, So jurisdiction expands. The county sheriff steps.

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<v Speaker 1>In because they have more money.

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<v Speaker 2>More money, more manpower, and broader territorial authority, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, jurisdiction literally ends at the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Line, exactly. But when a case stretches into years, requiring

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<v Speaker 2>deep forensic analysis of degraded remains, cyber tracking, and coordination

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<v Speaker 2>across state lines, you need the big guns you have

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<v Speaker 2>in the state.

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<v Speaker 1>And the state in this context is the Ioad Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Public.

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<v Speaker 2>Safety the DPS.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the press release actually includes an about section for

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<v Speaker 1>the DPS at the very bottom. Now, normally I think

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<v Speaker 1>people just skip right past the about section of a

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<v Speaker 2>It's usually boilerplate text right.

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<v Speaker 1>But here it is incredibly eliminating. It states flat out

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<v Speaker 1>that the DPS is the largest law enforcement agency in.

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<v Speaker 2>The state, which is saying something.

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<v Speaker 1>And their mandate is to work in conjunction with local, state,

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<v Speaker 2>That combination of public and private sector cooperation is key.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that so important, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>A local police department might not have the high level

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<v Speaker 2>security clearance, or the dedicated legal teams, or the specialized

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<v Speaker 2>software to demand and decode massive tranches of telecommunications data

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<v Speaker 1>Like getting records from Horizon are At and t right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge legal lift. The DPS has those teams.

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<v Speaker 2>They act as the central nervous system for the state's

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<v Speaker 1>The sheer scale of this organization is staggering when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. If you look at the navigation menu

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<v Speaker 1>included in this source document, it lists six main divisions

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<v Speaker 1>within the IOWADPS.

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<v Speaker 2>Six massive divisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You have the Division of Criminal Investigation, which actually

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<v Speaker 1>made the arrest. You have Narcotics Enforcement, you have the State.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrol the highway guys, right, the State.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire Marshalls Division, Yeah, the Division of Intelligence and Fusion Center,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Administrative Services Decision.

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<v Speaker 2>It's huge.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a massive, multi tentacled umbrella overseeing the safety

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<v Speaker 2>And if you look closely at the text in that

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>Leadership, integrity, professionalism, courtesy, service, and protection. Right, It's fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>how a clinical legal press release about a horrific murder

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<v Speaker 2>arrest is anchored by these philosophical pillars.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're making a statement.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It's the state publicly declaring that behind the badges,

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<v Speaker 2>behind the crime labs and the guns, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>Ethos, which is vital because that ethos is ultimately directed

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<v Speaker 1>by the commissioner, who the text notes is appointed.

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<v Speaker 2>By the governor, right, the civilian leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a direct line of democratic accountability from

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<v Speaker 1>the dirt of that rural field in Harrison County all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up to the governor's office in Des Moines.

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<v Speaker 2>The chain of command is what gives the entire operation

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<v Speaker 2>its legal legitimacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>But to understand how they actually process a crime scene

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<v Speaker 2>like that after three years, yeah, the actual mechanics exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>To understand the mechanics of how they caught Joseph Langford,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to look inside the DCI itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>The press release mentions the DCI made the arrest, and

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<v Speaker 2>the medical examiner made the ID. But how how do

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<v Speaker 2>you extract evidence from a rural landscape thirty four months

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<v Speaker 2>after the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's where it gets really interesting. This is the part

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<v Speaker 1>that completely blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>If we use the provided website structure in our source

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<v Speaker 1>document as a map, we can literally see the internal

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<v Speaker 1>layout of the Iowa DCI Criminalistics Laboratory.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all right there on the page.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they've handed us a blueprint of their forensic arsenal.

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<v Speaker 1>Under the crime lab section they list all these specific units.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear them.

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<v Speaker 1>The crime scene section, DNA casework, DNA profiling, fort defenders,

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<v Speaker 1>drug identification, firearms and tool marks, fire and explosives, impression evidence, photography, toxicology,

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<v Speaker 1>and trace evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>It represents the complete, uncompromising scientific breakdown of a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>It really does.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's walk through how this actually deploys in the real world. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>when human remains are found after three years, the local

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<v Speaker 2>deputies don't just dig them.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, right, They don't just grab a shovel.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they secure the perimeter and the DCI's crime scene

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<v Speaker 2>section is deployed.

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<v Speaker 1>Right because at that stage. It's not just a recovery,

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<v Speaker 1>it is an archaeological excavation exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They treat the site like a fragile historical dig.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>They use grid systems. They might use ground penetrating radar

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<v Speaker 2>to understand how the soil was.

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<v Speaker 1>Disturbed without even touching it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, They sift the dirt through screens to catch a

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<v Speaker 2>fragmented tooth, a button, or a piece of jewelry, just

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<v Speaker 2>meticulous very and once that material is secured, the evidence

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<v Speaker 2>diverges and travels down these highly specialized lanes in the

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<v Speaker 2>DCI menu.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about it like a forensic assembly line,

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<v Speaker 1>but one where the workers are all PhDs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it. You pull dirt, debris, and remains from

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<v Speaker 1>a rural field. That material gets passed from one extreme

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<v Speaker 1>specialist to another.

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<v Speaker 2>From lab to lab.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's take the impression evidence section listed in the source.

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<v Speaker 1>You might think after three years of rain and snow,

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<v Speaker 1>there wouldn't be any footprints or tire tracks left.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd assume it would all be.

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<v Speaker 1>Washed away, right, But what if the suspect threw a

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<v Speaker 1>heavy tarp over the burial site, or what if a

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<v Speaker 1>tire track was compressed deep into clay soil and then

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<v Speaker 1>baked hard by the summer sun before being buried under leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>That is exactly where impression evidence comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>How do they handle that?

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<v Speaker 2>They don't just take a photo of a tire track.

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<v Speaker 2>They use specialized dental stone to cast the physical imprint

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<v Speaker 2>of that track. Oh, like dentists used for teeth exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they use oblique lighting back in the lab to

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<v Speaker 1>What oblique lighting?

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<v Speaker 2>It's shining a light at a very low angle to

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<v Speaker 2>create shadows that reveal depth. It can show a specific

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<v Speaker 2>nick in the rubber of a tire that makes it

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<v Speaker 2>totally unique to Joseph Langford's truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. And what of the trace evidence section? How does

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<v Speaker 1>a fiber survive three years outdoors?

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<v Speaker 2>It depends entirely on the material. Okay, Natural fibers like

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<v Speaker 2>cotton degrade quickly in acidic.

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<v Speaker 1>Soil, so a cotton t shirt is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Likely, yes, But synthetic fibers like the polyester carpeting in

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<v Speaker 2>the trunk of a car or the nylon from a

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<v Speaker 2>windbreaker can persist for years to sit there in the

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<v Speaker 2>dirt exactly the trace evidence lab will take microscopic debris

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<v Speaker 2>found on the remains and put it under a polarized

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<v Speaker 2>light microscope.

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<v Speaker 1>And what did that do?

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<v Speaker 2>They measure the exact refractive index of a single microscopic fiber,

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<v Speaker 2>how light bends through it, and they use that to

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<v Speaker 2>match it back to the suspect's vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>Or home from a single fiber after three years. That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Science is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the absolute heavy lifter in a case like this

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<v Speaker 1>has to be the DNA casework section.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>In a case where remains have been exposed to the

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<v Speaker 1>elements for thirty four months, traditional identification methods like fingerprints

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<v Speaker 1>are impossible, completely impossible. Visual identification is impossible. Extracting usable

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<v Speaker 1>DNA from weather bone to make that positive identification of

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse George requires immense technical capability.

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<v Speaker 2>It is an incredibly delicate process, I bet, because when

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<v Speaker 2>DNA is exposed to UV, light, moisture, and soil bacteria,

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<v Speaker 2>it degrades, it breaks down. Yeah, the long strands of

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<v Speaker 2>DNA break down into tiny fragments. So to get a profile,

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<v Speaker 2>forensic geneticis in the DCI lab have to extract marrow

437
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<v Speaker 2>from the deepest most protected part of a dense bone,

438
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<v Speaker 2>like the femur Di bone.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they use a process called polymerous chain reaction or PCR.

441
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<v Speaker 1>PCR. Okay, that's essentially a molecular photocopyr right.

442
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<v Speaker 2>That is a perfect way to describe it.

443
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<v Speaker 1>Because there isn't enough DNA left.

444
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<v Speaker 2>To test directly exactly. PCR takes those time heiny degraded

445
00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:05.680
<v Speaker 2>microscopic fragments of surviving DNA and copies them millions of

446
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<v Speaker 2>times over.

447
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<v Speaker 1>Just replicating them again and again, right.

448
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<v Speaker 2>Until the sample is large enough to be analyzed and

449
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<v Speaker 2>compared against a family member's swab.

450
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<v Speaker 1>And that is how the state can confidently issue a

451
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<v Speaker 1>press release stating the remains were positively identified. Exactly Behind

452
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<v Speaker 1>those two words is weeks of intense biochemical engineering.

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<v Speaker 2>Weeks of work, easily.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we look further down that menu, there is

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<v Speaker 1>the toxicology section, uh the source even less toxicology instrumentation.

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<v Speaker 1>When I see instrumentation, I immediately think of the big

457
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<v Speaker 1>machines mass spectrometry, gas.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Chromatographer, YSI stuff, Right, But how do you.

459
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<v Speaker 1>Run toxicology on a skeleton?

460
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<v Speaker 2>It's a challenge, definitely, But bone, bone, marrow and hair

461
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<v Speaker 2>are remarkable biological.

462
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<v Speaker 1>Hard drives or drives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because even after three years, if a victim was

464
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<v Speaker 2>poison or heavily sedated before they were killed, traces of

465
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<v Speaker 2>those chemical compounds can become trapped in the calcium matrix

466
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<v Speaker 2>of the bone or the keratin of the hair.

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<v Speaker 1>That is wild. So how does the mass spectrometer actually

468
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<v Speaker 1>find it?

469
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<v Speaker 2>Well, the toxicology lab will essentially dissolve a tiny sample

470
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<v Speaker 2>of that bone or hair into a liquid. They inject

471
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<v Speaker 2>that liquid into a gas chromatograph, which heats it up

472
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<v Speaker 2>and turns it into a gas.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I see, as the gas travels through a microscopic tube,

475
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<v Speaker 2>different chemical compounds separate based on their size and structure.

476
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<v Speaker 1>They sort themselves out right.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they enter the mass spectrometer, which bombards the molecules

478
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<v Speaker 2>with electrons, breaking them apart.

479
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<v Speaker 1>And that tells you what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the machine measures the mass an electrical charge of

481
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<v Speaker 2>those broken pieces, creating a unique chemical barcode a bar code.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. And if that barcode matches, say a fatal dose

483
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<v Speaker 1>of fentanyl or a specific agricultural.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Chemical, suddenly the medical examiner has the crucial data they

485
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<v Speaker 2>need to definitively rule the death a homicide rather than

486
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<v Speaker 2>just exposure.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Which shifts the whole investigation exactly.

488
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<v Speaker 2>The physical forensics are vital, but you know the forensic

489
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<v Speaker 2>arsenal isn't just physical anymore. No. No, if we look

490
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<v Speaker 2>at the other specialized bureaus listed in the DCI structure,

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<v Speaker 2>we see the cyber Crime Bureau.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, I was really struck by that.

493
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<v Speaker 2>It stands out.

494
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<v Speaker 1>It does. When you think of a body buried in

495
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<v Speaker 1>a rural Iowa field, you think of muddy boots and shovels.

496
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<v Speaker 2>You don't necessarily think of cybersecurity.

497
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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. How does cybercrime fit into a rural missing person's case.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Well, in a modern investigation, the digital footprint is often

499
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<v Speaker 2>much more permanent than the physical one.

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<v Speaker 1>Really.

501
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we talked about how the environment erases physical evidence,

502
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<v Speaker 2>the rain, the tractors, but the digital environment remembers forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Over those three four months, while the physical trail was cold,

504
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<v Speaker 2>the Cybercrime Bureau was likely analyzing cellular data, financial transactions,

505
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<v Speaker 2>social media logins, and GPS history.

506
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<v Speaker 1>And they aren't just looking at the victim, Jesse Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they are mapping the suspect, Joseph Langford.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if Langford had his phone in his pocket on

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<v Speaker 1>June twenty nine, twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three, which most people do.

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<v Speaker 1>That phone was constantly pinging cell towers to maintain a signal,

512
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<v Speaker 1>even if he wasn't making a call.

513
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's called Cell Site Location information or CSLI CSLA. Okay,

514
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<v Speaker 2>getting historical CSLI years after the fact requires massive legal maneuvering.

515
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<v Speaker 1>You can't just ask nicely.

516
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<v Speaker 2>No, the state has to prove probable cause to a

517
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<v Speaker 2>judge to force the telecom companies to hand over that data.

518
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<v Speaker 2>And once they get it, once they get it, the

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<v Speaker 2>Cybercrime Bureau uses specialized software to map out exactly which

520
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<v Speaker 2>tower Langford's phone connected to and at what specific angle

521
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<v Speaker 2>and distance.

522
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<v Speaker 1>So if his phone pinged a rural tower exactly four

523
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<v Speaker 1>miles northwest of Missouri Valley at like two point zero

524
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<v Speaker 1>am on the night Jesse George vanished.

525
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<v Speaker 2>That digital echo is what likely guided the physical search

526
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<v Speaker 2>team to that exact field in twenty twenty six.

527
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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible the digital ghost leads the physical excavation precisely.

528
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<v Speaker 1>But I have to push back here for a second,

529
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<v Speaker 1>looking at the sheer scale of this list in the source.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got the DCI, the Cyber Bureau, Field Operations, the

532
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<v Speaker 1>Special Enforcement Operations Bureau, and then the text mentions the

533
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<v Speaker 1>Iowa Division of Intelligence Infusion Center.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of bureaus.

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<v Speaker 1>It is when I see this many divisions, this many

536
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<v Speaker 1>acronyms and bureaus, is there a risk of bureaucratic overload?

537
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<v Speaker 2>That's a fair question.

538
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, can a local case from Missouri Valley get

539
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<v Speaker 1>lost in this massive state apparatus? We all know that

540
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<v Speaker 1>large bureaucracies naturally form.

541
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<v Speaker 2>Silence, absolutely do so.

542
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<v Speaker 1>Does having the state Patrol, the fire Marshal, and narcotics

543
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<v Speaker 1>all under one roof actually help or does it slow

544
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<v Speaker 1>things down with red tape.

545
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<v Speaker 2>It's a highly valid concern, and honestly, it's the exact

546
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<v Speaker 2>reason many historical investigations failed because of the silos, bureaucratic silos,

547
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:58.119
<v Speaker 2>turf wars, a failure to share information. These are the

548
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<v Speaker 2>enemies of effective law enforcement. But if you look closely

549
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<v Speaker 2>at the bureaus listed in the source, the State of

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa has actively built technical infrastructure to counteract that exact

551
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<v Speaker 2>human flaw. They have yes, specifically, look at the Interoperability

552
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<v Speaker 2>Communications Bureau Okay, I.

553
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<v Speaker 1>See that on the menu and messed it under that

554
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<v Speaker 1>there is something called the ISIS network. What exactly is that?

555
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<v Speaker 2>ISIX stands for the Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System.

556
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, quite the mouthful. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Historically, if a Missouri Valley police officer was pursuing a

558
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<v Speaker 2>suspend and crossed into the next county, their VHF radio

559
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<v Speaker 2>might not be able to talk to the State Patrol's

560
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<v Speaker 2>UAHF radio system.

561
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<v Speaker 1>Wait. Really, they literally couldn't hear each other.

562
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<v Speaker 2>They were literally speaking different technical languages. Major national tragedies

563
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<v Speaker 2>like nine to eleven exposed how deadly these communication silos

564
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<v Speaker 2>could be when firefighters couldn't talk to police.

565
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, So the state builds a unified network exactly.

566
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<v Speaker 2>The ISIX network is a massive state funded digital radio

567
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<v Speaker 2>architecture that covers the entire state, ensuring seamless communication.

568
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:05.319
<v Speaker 1>So everyone is on the same channel.

569
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<v Speaker 2>Basically, it guarantees that a local deputy standing in a

570
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<v Speaker 2>muddy field in Harrison County can key their radio and

571
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 2>talk directly to a DCIS special agent in Des Moines

572
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.559
<v Speaker 2>or requests data from the Intelligence Fusion Center without hitting

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<v Speaker 2>a bureaucratic wall.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

575
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:23.799
<v Speaker 2>They even list an ISI's network operation Center to actively

576
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<v Speaker 2>maintain this flow of information.

577
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>So the bureaucracy is undeniably large, but the communication architecture

578
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 1>is specifically designed to flatten it out when a crisis occurs.

579
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 1>And what about that intelligence and fusion center. That sounds

580
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<v Speaker 1>like something out of a Spine novel, not a Midwestern

581
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>police department.

582
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Fusion centers were largely developed post nine to eleven as well.

583
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<v Speaker 2>Oh really yeah, there are centralized hubs where analysts aggregate

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00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 2>information from local, state, and federal databases, as well as

585
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:53.359
<v Speaker 2>public records and sometimes private sector data.

586
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:54.759
<v Speaker 1>So they just hoover up data.

587
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Basically, if a local officer stops Joseph Langford for a

588
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:02.000
<v Speaker 2>broken taylight in twenty twenty, that data point goes into

589
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.319
<v Speaker 2>the system. The fusion center analysts look for patterns that

590
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.640
<v Speaker 2>a single local officer would never be able to see

591
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>on their own. They fuse the intelligence together.

592
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<v Speaker 1>So all of this incredible effort, all of this high

593
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:17.839
<v Speaker 1>level science, from extracting bone marrow DNA to pinging historical

594
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:21.279
<v Speaker 1>cell towers to the seamless digital radio networks of the

595
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>fusion Center, it all culminates in this single surprisingly brief document.

596
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>We're looking at the May eighteen press release.

597
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Just those few paragraphs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which brings us to a really fascinating aspect of

599
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.799
<v Speaker 1>this deep dive. How does this state communicate a major

600
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>breakthrough to the public while protecting the integrity of the courts.

601
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:44.720
<v Speaker 2>What's fascinating here is the delicate, often frustrating balance of

602
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<v Speaker 2>the public record.

603
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a tightrope walk, it really is.

604
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.079
<v Speaker 2>The state has an absolute duty to inform the public

605
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that a suspected murderer has been apprehended.

606
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Right. The community of Missouri Valley needs to know that

607
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:58.079
<v Speaker 1>an arrest has been made.

608
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<v Speaker 2>People need to feel safe, exactly. But the state has

609
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 2>an equal and arguably more vital constitutional duty to protect

610
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>the due process rights of the accused.

611
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.759
<v Speaker 1>And you can feel that tension in the actual anatomy

612
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>of the press release itself.

613
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's palpable.

614
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>The language is incredibly sparse, it's clinical. It gives the names,

615
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the dates, the locations, and the specific felony charges, just

616
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the bare minimum facts, right, But just when you think

617
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>they are going to explain how they caught him, it

618
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>drops this heavy, impenetrable door. This is an ongoing criminal investigation.

619
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>No further details are being released.

620
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>The restraint of the state is what stands out as readers,

621
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 2>as consumers of news, we inherently want the narrative.

622
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.079
<v Speaker 1>We want the story, We want the true crime podcast version.

623
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>We want to know the motive. We want to know

624
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 2>exactly how Jesse George died, what the murder weapon was,

625
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.079
<v Speaker 2>and how the Cybercrime Bureau tied it to Joseph Flangford.

626
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>But the state must legally withhold those details.

627
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Because if they release the methods, the motives, or the

628
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>exact caut of death and a press release now, they

629
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<v Speaker 2>risk tainting the jury pool.

630
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, because eventually this has to go to trial.

631
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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, in the legal process of wardre jury selection, the

632
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<v Speaker 2>defense and the prosecution need to find impartial jurors.

633
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Right, people who haven't made up their minds.

634
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>If the state broadcasts all their forensic evidence in a

635
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<v Speaker 2>press release, every potential juror in Harrison County will have

636
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 2>already formed an opinion for stepping into the courtroom.

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00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>They'd read it on Facebook and assume he's guilty exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The press release is designed to provide only the foundational facts,

639
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>not the narrative. The narrative belongs exclusively in the courtroom,

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00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.279
<v Speaker 2>where it can be vigorously tested and cross examined by

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<v Speaker 2>the defense.

642
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Which perfectly explains the disclaimer at the very bottom of

643
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<v Speaker 1>the document.

644
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that tiny font at the bottom.

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00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just a single sentence tucked away at the end,

646
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<v Speaker 1>but it carries the weight of the entire American justice system.

647
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<v Speaker 2>It's the most important sentence on the page.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, note, a criminal charge is merely an accusation,

649
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>and the defend is presumed innocent until and unless proving guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>It is absolutely vital that we underscore the importance of

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<v Speaker 2>this impartial constitutional reminder. Yes, absolutely, While you the listener

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<v Speaker 2>are hearing about first degree murder charges and abuse of

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<v Speaker 2>a corpse and a massive three year interagency manhunt, we

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<v Speaker 2>must formally acknowledge that it is purely an accusation.

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<v Speaker 1>At this stage, the state itself is mandating that impartiality. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>They are putting out this pressfully saying we used our

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<v Speaker 1>massive crime labs, our cyber bureaus, and our interagency networks

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<v Speaker 1>to make this arrest, but we do not have the

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<v Speaker 1>final word. The jury does.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the ultimate check and balance on the immense

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<v Speaker 2>power of the state. Apparatus We've just spent all this

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<v Speaker 2>time analyzing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if we pan out from this single murder press

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<v Speaker 1>release and look at the rest of the Iowa DPS

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<v Speaker 1>website menu provided in our source, it completely recontextualizes this

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<v Speaker 1>entire document for me. Oh so well, because while solving

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty twenty three murder is obviously paramount to the DCI,

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<v Speaker 1>this agency is simultaneously handling the every day, mundane realities

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<v Speaker 1>of public safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah. Yes, the bureaucracy of a state is relentlessly dual nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Dual nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it has to manage the extremes of human behavior

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<v Speaker 2>alongside the utterly routine.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me give you an example from the text for

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<v Speaker 1>the listener. Just look at the I need to drop

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<v Speaker 1>down menu listed right there on the same page as

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<v Speaker 1>the murder press release.

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<v Speaker 2>Right at the top of the site.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have find a missing person, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>tragic catalyst for the Jesse George case. But right beneath it,

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<v Speaker 1>you have request criminal background checks, you have acquire a

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<v Speaker 1>weapon permit, repaired school safety concerns, access crash reports, view

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<v Speaker 1>the Iowa sex offender registry.

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<v Speaker 2>It perfectly illustrates the daily reality of law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy to see them side by side.

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<v Speaker 2>They are deploying the crime scene section to meticulously excavate

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<v Speaker 2>human remains in a freezing rural field, while simultaneously, in

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<v Speaker 2>a different office, a clink is is processing the paperwork

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<v Speaker 2>for someone who wants to buy a hunting rifle. They

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<v Speaker 2>are tracking a suspected murderer using historical cell site location data,

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<v Speaker 2>while another division is running the Governor's Traffic Safety Bureau.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost jarring to read. Further down in the division's list,

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<v Speaker 1>you see the Administrative Services Division managing the Peace Officer

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<v Speaker 1>Retirement System pensions. Yeah, you see links for winter driving

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<v Speaker 1>tips and crash statistics, living right alongside the Clandestine Labs

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<v Speaker 1>section of the Narcotics Enforcement Division.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the mundane civic duty running perfectly parallel to

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<v Speaker 2>the macabre exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is the requirement of a functioning society.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be.

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<v Speaker 1>The state must be capable of confronting the absolute darkest

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of human behavior, like a first degree murder concealed

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<v Speaker 1>for over one thousand days, without dropping the ball on

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<v Speaker 1>everyday civic order.

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<v Speaker 2>They still have to issue winter road safety warnings. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they still have to ensure retired officers get their pensions

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<v Speaker 2>on time. The architecture of the DPS website site is

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<v Speaker 2>a direct reflection of the architecture of society itself.

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<v Speaker 1>So to bring this all together, look at the incredible

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<v Speaker 1>journey we've taken on this deep dive for you today.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been quite a ride.

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<v Speaker 1>We started with a simple, tragic missing person report in

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<v Speaker 1>the small town of Missouri Valley in June twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Right we explored the statistical cliff of those first forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours and what it actually means to maintain a

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<v Speaker 1>continuous investigation for thirty four months.

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<v Speaker 2>We followed the trail as the local police hit their

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<v Speaker 2>resource limits and handed it up to the county sheriff

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually to the massive state apparatus of the Iowa

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<v Speaker 2>Division of Criminal Investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>We unpack the physical reality of an Iowa rural search,

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<v Speaker 1>where the environment actively fights the investigation, the seasons, the tractors,

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<v Speaker 1>the weather.

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<v Speaker 2>We dove into the literal dirt of that crime scene,

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<v Speaker 2>moving through the high tech impression evidence labs casting tire tracks, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The toxicology labs using mass spectrometry to find chemical compounds

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<v Speaker 1>in weathered bone.

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<v Speaker 2>We explored the extraction of from bone marrow. To make

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<v Speaker 2>a positive identification using PCR, we looked at.

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<v Speaker 1>The digital tracking of the Cybercrime Bureau, mapping out historical

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<v Speaker 1>cell tower pings and the seamless radio communication webs of

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<v Speaker 1>the ISIS network.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally we landed right here on the desk of

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<v Speaker 2>Special Agent in Charge Daryl Simmons, whose contact information sits

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of a formalized, highly restrained public record

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<v Speaker 2>announcing and arrest. It's a lot to take in if

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<v Speaker 2>we connect this to the bigger picture, it serves as

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<v Speaker 2>a profound reminder. Behind every brief, hundred word headline you

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<v Speaker 2>scroll past on your phone while waiting in line.

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<v Speaker 1>For coffee, which we all do every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind every sterile boilerplate press release issued by a government agency,

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<v Speaker 2>there is an absolute mountain of forensic science, interagency friction,

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<v Speaker 2>and human perseverance.

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<v Speaker 1>A thirty four month investigation doesn't just sustain itself.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it requires investigators, lab technicians and analysts who simply

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<v Speaker 2>refuse to let a file stay closed.

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<v Speaker 1>Which brings us back to where we started, the burden

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<v Speaker 1>of the secret versus the relentless machine of the state.

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<v Speaker 2>The machine always grinds forward.

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<v Speaker 1>The truth of what happened to Jesse George was obscured

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<v Speaker 1>in a rural field for three years, but the machinery

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<v Speaker 1>of investigation, the forensics, the cyber tracking, the inneragency cooperation

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<v Speaker 1>eventually brought it into the light and put it on

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<v Speaker 1>the public record.

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<v Speaker 2>The machine did exactly what it was designed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, and that leaves you with a final thought to

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<v Speaker 1>mull over long after you finished listening to this deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive today.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the sheer volume of data, physical evidence and

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<v Speaker 1>public records generated by just this one case.

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<v Speaker 2>The DNA swabs, the gigabytes of cyber data points.

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<v Speaker 1>The interoperable communications logs, the crime scene photos, and this

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<v Speaker 1>exact press release. Now multiply that immense digital footprint by

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<v Speaker 1>every single case handled by the state across all those

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<v Speaker 1>divisions we listed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unfathomable.

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<v Speaker 1>It is when a case is finally closed, when the

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<v Speaker 1>trial ends, and the press release is permanently archived in

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<v Speaker 1>the state's database, what happens to all that data?

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<v Speaker 2>It just sits there forever.

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<v Speaker 1>How does a society balance the permanent archival of a

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<v Speaker 1>tragedy with the necessity of the public record. We demand transparency.

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<v Speaker 1>We demand these press releases so we know our communities

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<v Speaker 1>are safe, but in doing so, we permanently etche a

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<v Speaker 1>family's darkest day into the digital bedrock of the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the ultimate paradox of the information age. The relentless

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<v Speaker 1>pursuit of justice guarantees that the trauma is never truly deleted.
