Speaker 1: In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
Speaker 1: revolutionary act.
Speaker 2: It's the David Knight Show. As the clock strikes thirteen,
Speaker 2: it's Friday, the twenty seventh of March. He're of our Lord,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Well, it began as a bad day
Speaker 2: for Donald Trump on Thursday. He started ranting on social
Speaker 2: media at six am against NATO and Iran, and by
Speaker 2: the afternoon he had tacoed again. Over the weekend, he
Speaker 2: moved markets and scared everybody. When it looked like he
Speaker 2: was going to set the Middle East on fire in
Speaker 2: two days, then he said, I'll give you another five days.
Speaker 2: Now he's going to change it to another ten days,
Speaker 2: And we're going to take a look at how he
Speaker 2: got himself and us into a dilemma with no good options.
Speaker 2: They could look at what the different options are, and
Speaker 2: none of them are good. He is desperate to get
Speaker 2: out of this and they're not letting him go. And
Speaker 2: so we're going to take a look at the foundation
Speaker 2: of this insanity as well, because it is a crazy
Speaker 2: move and it's got a lot of different aspects to it.
Speaker 2: They're affecting us in our society politically, economically, and spiritually,
Speaker 2: we're going to take a look also at the long
Speaker 2: pipeline of distractions and wars that he and his regime
Speaker 2: have gone lined up for us. He'll be right back, yes,
Speaker 2: when you look at what are his options? Right, he
Speaker 2: wants to get out very badly. But if he just
Speaker 2: cuts and runs at this point, with all the braggadocio
Speaker 2: that he's done and the fact that they started a
Speaker 2: war of aggression, it's going to look very, very weak,
Speaker 2: and it's going to have That weakness is going to
Speaker 2: have big effects on the Petro dollar, on our ponzi
Speaker 2: scheme that we've been running now for fifty years or so,
Speaker 2: and it's going to have a big effect on the
Speaker 2: golf if he leaves, because it's going to leave Iran
Speaker 2: in control of the straight oh hor moves and pretty
Speaker 2: much in control of the Gulf States. They'll be the
Speaker 2: strongest power that's there. And what we built the petro
Speaker 2: dollar on was an idea of peace and free trade. Well,
Speaker 2: he kind of tore that up and threw it to
Speaker 2: the wind, all the free trade stuff as well as
Speaker 2: now the piece stuff, and everybody is realizing they can't
Speaker 2: depend on the United States, and so what does he
Speaker 2: do at this point. If he escalates it, that's not
Speaker 2: good either. That's going to be a tremendous cost in
Speaker 2: terms of lives, in terms of money, in terms of
Speaker 2: his political future. There's not really any good options for him.
Speaker 2: And there's not good options for us as well. Once
Speaker 2: we lose the petro dollar, once we lose this status
Speaker 2: that we built on that oil that is there, it's
Speaker 2: going to reverberate throughout our society. And I keep looking
Speaker 2: at this and I remember how things changed with the
Speaker 2: opek Co oil embargo changed for the worse. This is
Speaker 2: a much much bigger shock, folks. And I don't see
Speaker 2: this coming up to anything that's good. I wish I
Speaker 2: had some good news, but we've got to be realistic
Speaker 2: about this. Even Larry Fink at Blackrock, who is very
Speaker 2: excited about this at first, Yeah, this is going to
Speaker 2: be great. Like Lindsey Graham said, We're gonna make a
Speaker 2: lot of money. We're going to get rich. That guy
Speaker 2: he belongs in a prison. It's just amazing. That's his
Speaker 2: response to this. It starts a war, people are dying,
Speaker 2: Astronomical amounts of money are being spent to kill people.
Speaker 2: And his response to all that is, we're going to
Speaker 2: get rich. Yeah, well there's a day of reckoning for
Speaker 2: Lindsay that's coming. But what does he do with this?
Speaker 2: He can't regardless of his warpet, hegseeth, beats his chest
Speaker 2: and does no matter how many push ups he does.
Speaker 2: You can't escape the fact that they don't have a
Speaker 2: good military solution. They've had to close thirteen bases. If
Speaker 2: they do some kind of extremely expensive takeover of carg Island,
Speaker 2: expensive in terms of loss of life, they're not going
Speaker 2: to be able to hold it. That is right next
Speaker 2: to where, right next to the coast. And if the
Speaker 2: Iranians have been able to so badly damage thirteen bases
Speaker 2: throughout the Middle East that they have to be abandoned.
Speaker 2: As I played the clip yesterday from scott Ritory, he said, Yeah,
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, people are you know,
Speaker 2: they're evacuating these bases and putting people in hotels hiding
Speaker 2: out because if they accumulate in one area, the Iranians
Speaker 2: can attack them. Now with these missiles, they're accurate and
Speaker 2: they have been very strategic in terms of taking out
Speaker 2: the missile defense facilities that were there. So if we
Speaker 2: can't protect the bases thirteen bases throughout the Gulf States,
Speaker 2: how are you going to protect carg Island. It doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense. And when you look at the Gulf
Speaker 2: of Horror Moves again, since we're Americans, we don't know geography,
Speaker 2: but I looked it up. It's four hundred and ten
Speaker 2: miles from the Straight of Horror Moves Carg Island is
Speaker 2: So you ask yourself, if the Straight of hor Moves
Speaker 2: is the objective now, then why don't we go to
Speaker 2: our ally in Oman and say, you know, we want
Speaker 2: to set up a base here and be easier than
Speaker 2: for us to try to defend this from being in
Speaker 2: the sea. No, they don't want us there, and we're
Speaker 2: going to do something that's going to cost American lives
Speaker 2: because even though we are supposedly the most powerful nation
Speaker 2: and we're supposedly the ones calling the shot, we have
Speaker 2: to do whatever is in the best interest of Israel,
Speaker 2: whatever is in the best interest of Oman, and then
Speaker 2: whatever is left the Americans get right. While you got
Speaker 2: Mike Johnson making up a new award of the America
Speaker 2: First Award, and we're giving it. This is the first
Speaker 2: time we've given it and we're going to give it
Speaker 2: to President Trump. What a boot liquor that guy is.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely amazing. Well, this kind of sums it up
Speaker 2: this breaking. Trump is left reeling after The New Times
Speaker 2: reveals that Iran's attacks have bombed every American military base
Speaker 2: in the Middle East so badly that they are quote
Speaker 2: virtually uninhabitable. The US military is now working remotely in
Speaker 2: the Middle East. They work out of hotels and makeshift
Speaker 2: operations centers in civilian Areas a result, according to current
Speaker 2: and former military officials, is a war that is much
Speaker 2: harder to prosecute. Many of the thirteen military bases in
Speaker 2: the region used by American troops are all but uninhabitable,
Speaker 2: with the ones in Kuwait, which is next door to Iran,
Speaker 2: suffering perhaps the most damage. You can imagine what it's
Speaker 2: going to be like if they take over carg Island.
Speaker 2: Iranian officials have even accused US military of using civilians
Speaker 2: as human shields by putting American troops and hotels. This
Speaker 2: is sure to prompt another furious tirade from Trump, who
Speaker 2: we now know is not getting the full picture of
Speaker 2: just how badly this war is going for him, and
Speaker 2: is instead just getting a highlight reel of war porn,
Speaker 2: watching our tax dollars blow things up for two minutes
Speaker 2: every day, and that's exactly what. That's not an exaggeration.
Speaker 2: They give him a highlight reel of stuff that's blowing up.
Speaker 2: It's very much like the recruitment video showed you this
Speaker 2: week of Pete Hegseth. You know, they play this video
Speaker 2: game style music and they show pictures of hits in football.
Speaker 2: You know, somebody's running with a ball, they get hit
Speaker 2: straight on a pal and then they cut right to
Speaker 2: an explosion of a bomb hitting a building or something
Speaker 2: like that. It's a game with these people. It's like
Speaker 2: pew pew pew. You know, he needs to grow up,
Speaker 2: But he's exactly the person that Trump wants, just like
Speaker 2: Trump wants this brawler Mark Wayne Mullen. He wants him
Speaker 2: for the agency that is out there brawling with people
Speaker 2: and killing people on the streets ice. It's a perfect
Speaker 2: demonstration of the blind hubris of the Trump administration. After
Speaker 2: two decades of watching America uncontestedly bombed the poor people
Speaker 2: in the world, Trump and Hegseth couldn't even conceive of
Speaker 2: an enemy with a sophisticated military that was able to
Speaker 2: fight back despite all the evidence to the contrary. You know,
Speaker 2: when we look at what happened in Vietnam, for example,
Speaker 2: they didn't have a lot of equipment, but they made do.
Speaker 2: They adapted to survive, and the big part of the
Speaker 2: problem was the leadership. Of course, the leadership had no
Speaker 2: winnable strategy. They would fight a battle somewhere, win the area,
Speaker 2: and then abandon it. Again. There was just absolutely no strategy.
Speaker 2: And we're seeing this all over again. We're going right
Speaker 2: through the nineteen seventies. I guess that earlier yesterday. I
Speaker 2: just hope they don't bring disco music back. But everything
Speaker 2: else is looking just like the seventies, whether you're talking
Speaker 2: about economics, or embargoes, or wars, or corrupt, creepy presidents
Speaker 2: that are liars and crooks. It's crazy. They took no preparations,
Speaker 2: they expected no reprisals. They didn't evacuate anyone from the
Speaker 2: Redle East until after the war had started. They didn't
Speaker 2: bother to prepare for drones either. They attacked Iran because
Speaker 2: they are cowards and bullies, thinking that they could implore
Speaker 2: they can impose their will on Iran by simply killing
Speaker 2: one old man. They are very, very wrong, and now
Speaker 2: they have started a fire that they can't put out
Speaker 2: with lies and bombs. That's exactly right. So you have
Speaker 2: Trump exploding at six am this Thursday morning and a
Speaker 2: social media rent you woke up early to fire off
Speaker 2: a flurry of unrelated and unhitched posts. Maybe he's having
Speaker 2: trouble sleeping. He shouldn't be able to sleep based on
Speaker 2: what he has done. Actually, and so Trump unleashed a
Speaker 2: furious ministry of truth social tirade against NATO early Thursday
Speaker 2: for quote, absolutely nothing to help him with his Iron
Speaker 2: war mess. Remember earlier this week I played for you
Speaker 2: the clip from the guy who was the former head
Speaker 2: of the highest ranking official from France and NATO, and
Speaker 2: he was going through it. He said, you know, Trump
Speaker 2: doesn't even when he wants NATO help, what does he want?
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to tell us his plans because he
Speaker 2: doesn't know his plans. He's got to figure out what
Speaker 2: he wants to do first, and he doesn't even know himself.
Speaker 2: Everybody can see that he has no idea what he's doing.
Speaker 2: So he says, first of all, he's got to figure
Speaker 2: out what his goal is his and then we can
Speaker 2: talk about how to get there. But he also has
Speaker 2: to realize that he's going to be If we're going
Speaker 2: to be working with him, there has to be coordination.
Speaker 2: That means there has to be command. You just can't
Speaker 2: improvise this stuff. You just go around blowing stuff up
Speaker 2: without any cause. And that's what they're doing. He says.
Speaker 2: They can't be out there blowing everything up and we
Speaker 2: go do our own thing. We'll wind up killing each
Speaker 2: other out there. So it has to be coordination. There
Speaker 2: has to be a line of command, he said, to
Speaker 2: be American generals in it. But he said he also
Speaker 2: has to confide in this of what his plans are.
Speaker 2: When he figures out what they're going to be. He said,
Speaker 2: we can keep a secret. But then his real insight
Speaker 2: was he said, look, Trump doesn't want military help from
Speaker 2: France or NATO anybody. He wants political cover. He wants
Speaker 2: to bring people in because he's got himself in a
Speaker 2: very bad spot here and he knows it and everybody
Speaker 2: knows it.
Speaker 3: Want from his people the same thing he wants from
Speaker 3: his generals in command, bootliquors and cycopins.
Speaker 2: That's right, exactly. So here's the former I played this yesterday,
Speaker 2: but here's a former sixter, a guy talking about the
Speaker 2: fact that, yeah, Iran is winning.
Speaker 4: Who has the upper hand right now.
Speaker 5: I regret having come to this conclusion because like many
Speaker 5: am I six officers of my generation, we've faced the
Speaker 5: violence and brutality of the IOGC for most of our careers.
Speaker 2: Justus the Revolutionary Arts.
Speaker 5: Corps, So there is no love lost between us, and
Speaker 5: I shed no tears for Ali Khamane who was killed
Speaker 5: at the beginning of this war. But the reality is
Speaker 5: the US underestimated the task and I think as of
Speaker 5: about two weeks ago, lost the initiative to Iran. In practice,
Speaker 5: the Iranian regime has been more resilient than I think
Speaker 5: anyone would have expected. They took some good decisions, actually
Speaker 5: as early as last June about dispersing their military capability
Speaker 5: and delegating the authority for the use of those weapons,
Speaker 5: which has given them significant extra resilience against this incredibly
Speaker 5: powerful air campaign. They have embarked on what's technically called
Speaker 5: horizontal escalation. Are you firing rockets at anybody within range?
Speaker 5: Which at the time honestly Showschenka I thought was nuts.
Speaker 5: In fact has been a very good way of putting
Speaker 5: in direct price on the US.
Speaker 2: Sort of worked.
Speaker 5: And then they've understood the significance of of the energy
Speaker 5: war and held the Straits at threat and globalized and
Speaker 5: essentially not internationalized, just globalized the conflict in a way
Speaker 5: that gives them some weapons. So you know, they've played
Speaker 5: a weekend pretty well. My second point is that Donald
Speaker 5: Trump has said some stuff that will have confirmed something
Speaker 5: they knew already, which is that they're in a civilizational war.
Speaker 5: In their terms, they're in a war of existence. Donald
Speaker 5: Trump made it very clear that he wanted to see
Speaker 5: them up against the wall basically, whereas America has embarked
Speaker 5: on a war of choice, and in those terms, I
Speaker 5: think that's imbued them with more staying power than the
Speaker 5: US and certain the US counterparts.
Speaker 2: That's how we can continue to lose war. We make
Speaker 2: it an existential war. For these people, I got everything
Speaker 2: to lose, and you know, they're in it for the
Speaker 2: fight of their life. And even though they don't have
Speaker 2: the sophistic an expensive equipment that we have, they will
Speaker 2: win in an asymmetric war. We have seen it over
Speaker 2: and over again, over and over again, and this time
Speaker 2: what Iran did was they added asymmetric economic warfare to
Speaker 2: all of this. And so Trump is tweeting out this
Speaker 2: morning or or Thursday morning, he tweeted out, the USA
Speaker 2: needs nothing from NATO. But never forget this important point
Speaker 2: and time. He shouted at six sixteen am. Don't forget it.
Speaker 2: With six sixteen am that he shouted that out in
Speaker 2: all upper case.
Speaker 6: You're winning so badly.
Speaker 7: It's tremendous death and destruction from the sky.
Speaker 6: They never saw it coming.
Speaker 7: And we are dominating completely thy total success.
Speaker 2: For those of you who are listening on podcasts, that's
Speaker 2: a well ai meme that's got both hegseeth and Trump
Speaker 2: bloodied and wearing head bandages and on crutches, bragging about
Speaker 2: how they're winning so badly. About twenty minutes after that,
Speaker 2: he warned iron to quote get serious soon. I think
Speaker 2: they are serious. As a matter of fact, one of
Speaker 2: the commanders who had a social media account said when
Speaker 2: they were talking about invasion, there was either a carg
Speaker 2: island or the straight over moves. He said, We're ready
Speaker 2: for you, come closer, taunting them. It's a very chilling
Speaker 2: challenge that he has. There they're begging us, he said,
Speaker 2: to make a deal. No, they're begging you to come
Speaker 2: closer because they, unlike you, have prepared for this, which
Speaker 2: they should be doing since they've been militarily obliterated. He says.
Speaker 2: You know, we noticed they keep saying that they have
Speaker 2: been obliterated, they can't launch any missiles, and yet they
Speaker 2: do somehow. They keep saying they have air superiority, and
Speaker 2: yet they keep shooting planes and reaper drones down with
Speaker 2: zero chance of a comeback. He said, Yet they public
Speaker 2: state that they're only looking at our proposal wrong. Granted,
Speaker 2: what a joke this guy is. He's pathetic, you know
Speaker 2: hebby looks at Pete, Hegseth. But you know he's a
Speaker 2: chip off the old block. He then delivered a threat.
Speaker 2: He said, they've better get serious soon before it is
Speaker 2: too late, because once that happens, there's no turning back,
Speaker 2: and it won't be pretty. He doesn't even insult Well.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I think this is evidence that they need
Speaker 2: to invote the twenty fifth of Meenber. This guy is
Speaker 2: absolutely mentally unstable. It showed you that cartoon where they
Speaker 2: had Trump on a couch and a psychiatrist. He says,
Speaker 2: you know, because Trump was saying that he was talking
Speaker 2: to the Iranians and the Aranians say, we do not
Speaker 2: talk to him at all. The psychiatrist says them, So
Speaker 2: these Iranians, are they in this room with us right now?
Speaker 2: Do you see them right now? Has the level of
Speaker 2: your internal conflicts reached the state of negotiating with yourself?
Speaker 2: The Iranians mocked him, So again, are the Iranians that
Speaker 2: you're talking to? Are they in the room right now?
Speaker 2: And then we have Chris Monahan at Information Liberation has
Speaker 2: a quote from the former Defense Minister of Israel. You
Speaker 2: have Gallant, in an article for Barry Weiss's Free Press,
Speaker 2: says the US should seize carg Island. He says, yes,
Speaker 2: there are risks. He said, any operation to seize KRG
Speaker 2: would require thousands of troops, sustained air and naval support,
Speaker 2: and detailed intelligence, and it would carry a real and
Speaker 2: expected cost in human life. Well that's a risk that
Speaker 2: they're willing to take with Americans lives, isn't it. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing that really makes me angry go die
Speaker 2: for Israel just amazing raises maximum age as a sign
Speaker 2: of desperation here. I think from thirty five to forty two.
Speaker 2: As Tony Rdoman pointed out yesterday, yeah uh, you know,
Speaker 2: never too old to go die for Israel right and
Speaker 2: the Zionist land lust.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: There is a sinister new power in Iran and it's
Speaker 2: not who the West thinks it is. So they're looking
Speaker 2: the tea leaves and trying to figure out who is
Speaker 2: going to be left standing, and they keep taking out
Speaker 2: these people. We someday we're going to learn that when
Speaker 2: we do assassinations and coups, we wind up making things worse. Right,
Speaker 2: we went from a guy who was a leftist U
Speaker 2: and they didn't like him because he was going to
Speaker 2: nationalize the oil companies. We went from him to the
Speaker 2: Shaw of Iran. They thought they were winning, you know,
Speaker 2: they had the Shaw of Iran. He said, you just
Speaker 2: cut me a lot of you cut me some big
Speaker 2: fat checks. I'll let you do whatever you want. But
Speaker 2: he has had the ruthless Slovak secret police that were
Speaker 2: trained by this CIA Massad. And after a couple of
Speaker 2: decades of that, we wound up with the Iatoah and
Speaker 2: a radical Islamic regime. Now they've gotten rid of these guys,
Speaker 2: and they're going to get even more radical people that
Speaker 2: are there, and they're radicalizing the people of Iran as well.
Speaker 2: They were on the right path to get away from
Speaker 2: these iatolas until we attacked. So everything that they're doing
Speaker 2: makes absolutely no sense. As I said before, Larry Fink,
Speaker 2: the CEO of Black Rock, has now done a u
Speaker 2: turn on his Iran war optimism. Now he's warned of
Speaker 2: an impending global recession if the US Israeli war on
Speaker 2: Iran drags on and oil prices remain above one hundred
Speaker 2: dollars a barrel. The stark prediction comes just weeks after
Speaker 2: Fink framed the conflict as a good long term investment opportunity.
Speaker 2: Rich man war, poor man fight. Right, Well, he's going
Speaker 2: to get more more than a recession. I think he's
Speaker 2: going to get a depression. Fink said oil prices could
Speaker 2: stay above one hundred dollars per barrel for years if
Speaker 2: Iran quote remains a threat, potentially hitting one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty dollars and sparking a quote probably stark in steep recession. Well,
Speaker 2: he says one hundred and fifty. The CEO of United
Speaker 2: is planning for it. To go to one hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy five. Of course, the others have said two hundred. Again,
Speaker 2: when we look at what happened in the nineteen seventies,
Speaker 2: OPEK quadrupleed the OPEC embargo that only lasted I think
Speaker 2: six months, and it only affected the United States, and
Speaker 2: that wound up quadrupling the global price of oil, and
Speaker 2: it stayed there. It didn't come back down. He described
Speaker 2: two scenarios, one in which Iran is accepted again by
Speaker 2: the international community, and another in which tensions persist, leading
Speaker 2: to sustained high energy costs with profound implications. He said
Speaker 2: for the global economy. Earlier this month, I think whose
Speaker 2: company holds significant stakes in major military industrial complex? Defense
Speaker 2: contractors struck a markedly different tone. He dismissed the notion
Speaker 2: of a prolonged war, predicting that oil would revert back
Speaker 2: to where it was and maybe even lower after the
Speaker 2: conflict ends. Well, again, there's Lindsey Graham, and then there's
Speaker 2: people like Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro's posts about how why
Speaker 2: do people keep saying that Iran is winning? They're not
Speaker 2: going to age too well, His posts about the fact
Speaker 2: there's no chance they're going to get caught in Quagmi.
Speaker 2: There's no chance it's going to drag the world into
Speaker 2: a global recession. Every point that Ben Shapiro has made
Speaker 2: is wrong, and he's doing it. He's wrong because the
Speaker 2: only thing that he can see is what's good for Israel,
Speaker 2: and not even good for the Israeli people. You got
Speaker 2: a lot of people in Israel who do not like
Speaker 2: what's happening. There's tremendous destruction that is happening there. A
Speaker 2: lot of people in Israel didn't like what Benjamin NETANYAHUO
Speaker 2: was doing to them during COVID, turning him and then
Speaker 2: into lab rats for Pfizer, which is exactly what he did.
Speaker 2: I played clips there was a young teenage girl who
Speaker 2: was dying from her vaccine injuries from the genetic code injection,
Speaker 2: a very sad story and talking about what had happened
Speaker 2: to her in Israel, Trump cast doubt on the prospect
Speaker 2: of an Iran deal. Well, yeah, even though he did that,
Speaker 2: then he comes back on Thursday and he says, now
Speaker 2: we're going to give it another ten days. So he
Speaker 2: keeps making these statements, and the stock market is making
Speaker 2: and the commodity markets are making huge moves in response
Speaker 2: to his statements. I mean, this is the type of thing,
Speaker 2: you know, when the Federal Reserve comes out, it's like
Speaker 2: the old E. F. Hutton commercial, you know, when the F.
Speaker 2: Hutton talks, people listen, you know, and everybody restaurant stops
Speaker 2: and he's dropping. Well, whenever you have a Federal Reserve
Speaker 2: chairman saying things like you know, well, I think there's
Speaker 2: some irrational exuberance in the stock market boom, everybody thinks,
Speaker 2: oh no, he thinks it's too high. He's going to
Speaker 2: do something to take it down. As everybody overreacts to
Speaker 2: everything they say. That's especially true of what the president says.
Speaker 2: Even though everybody knows what a blustering windbag Donald Trump is,
Speaker 2: they still react to this stuff as if he was
Speaker 2: a real person, a real leader. And so he comes
Speaker 2: in and he says, well, you know, I think that
Speaker 2: we're probably not going to get an iron deal. The
Speaker 2: stock market goes down, and he says, oh, we'll do
Speaker 2: another ten days. Then it goes back up. Meanwhile, everybody's
Speaker 2: paying attention. It's starting to get some traction this story
Speaker 2: about the insider trading and the drifting that's going on.
Speaker 2: And how somebody knew because they put this these massive
Speaker 2: bets in in just the right way, and multiple exchanges,
Speaker 2: a couple of different oil exchanges as well as the
Speaker 2: stock market, and massive, massive bets and did it just
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes before Trump did a whipsaw announcement.
Speaker 2: As people said, this is suspicious because there was absolutely
Speaker 2: nothing that he had said or done that people could
Speaker 2: anticipate that he's going to a complete one eighty and
Speaker 2: he completely keeps flipping like this and moving the markets
Speaker 2: one way or the other. Trump said it's up to
Speaker 2: Iranian leaders to convince him to halt the war, saying
Speaker 2: he doesn't care about making a deal anymore, and the
Speaker 2: US has got a lot of additional targets we want
Speaker 2: to hit before we leave. Now, if you are trying
Speaker 2: to negotiate with somebody, are you going to talk like that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's hurry up and make a deal, because I've got
Speaker 2: a lot of things i want to hit you on
Speaker 2: the way out. This is these are people that he's
Speaker 2: already blindsided and engaged in treachery and perfidy twice telling
Speaker 2: you we're going to negotiate while you're in the middle
Speaker 2: of negotiations. He uses that for a sneak attack. He's
Speaker 2: already done that twice. Now he's saying, let's hurry up
Speaker 2: and get a deal, because I've got some stuff I
Speaker 2: want to hit on my way out, he says. Iranian
Speaker 2: media reports say that Ron has complete doubt about Washington's
Speaker 2: willingness to negotiate. I'm sorry, George, they keep using your name.
Speaker 2: George Washington spending in his grave when he sees this.
Speaker 2: George Washington can't tell lie. Donald Trump can't tell the
Speaker 2: truth to save his life for his country. The Iranian
Speaker 2: naval chief has been killed in assassination. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they needed him. His entire navy had been wiped out.
Speaker 2: They had seven frigates and they were all sunk. I mean,
Speaker 2: they did have a lot of fast speedboats, but maybe
Speaker 2: that's what they were doing in Venezuela, just practicing for
Speaker 2: the Iranian navy of fast speedboats that they have. Well.
Speaker 2: Axios reports that the US has plans for a final
Speaker 2: blow despite possible ceasefire agreement coming up. In other words,
Speaker 2: that's kind of similar to what Donald Trump was saying.
Speaker 2: I want to hit him on the way out. That's
Speaker 2: something I want to hit a final blow of the
Speaker 2: Iran war. That could include massive bombing campaign or the
Speaker 2: use of ground forces or something like that. Who knows
Speaker 2: what they're going to do on the way out, just
Speaker 2: more perfidy and war crimes. The US is not ready
Speaker 2: to put boots on the ground in Iran, says an
Speaker 2: ex Indian spy chief, A guy who was the former
Speaker 2: Indian foreign minister but also headed India's external intelligence agency,
Speaker 2: said a ground invasion would be a hard sell for
Speaker 2: the American public. He said, once you put boots on
Speaker 2: the ground, that means that you've got to be prepared
Speaker 2: for body bags to come back, and that is not
Speaker 2: going to be liked by Americans. He said, although we
Speaker 2: have seen that the Israeli leaders are just fine with that.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't care whatsoever to see a lot of Americans
Speaker 2: come back in body bags. That's why I call it.
Speaker 2: If they don't talk about boots on the ground, talk
Speaker 2: about boots in the ground, you're going to be burying
Speaker 2: these troops, he said. The leader who will emerge the
Speaker 2: strongest and the tall US out of the Middle East
Speaker 2: is going to be putin. He says he believes the
Speaker 2: US is always underestimated Iran and referred to a visit
Speaker 2: that he had with Henry Kissinger in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: He said, I was a member then of the Indian
Speaker 2: equivalent of the NSSA, and he said, Kissinger said, Duran
Speaker 2: doesn't behave We'll blow it off the face of the earth.
Speaker 2: He said, now it has been twenty one years. See,
Speaker 2: this is the kind of murderous regime that our government
Speaker 2: has become. We need to come to terms with this
Speaker 2: and understand truly what this government is. Because this murderous
Speaker 2: regime has guns pointed at us, it's got cameras pointed
Speaker 2: at us, it's got an Orwellian patalitarian police state that
Speaker 2: is pointed at us. Never forget that. And so I'm
Speaker 2: continuing on this as we have people asking, you know,
Speaker 2: what are the goals this, this two hundred billion dollar
Speaker 2: war with Iran? And that is a rhetorical question because
Speaker 2: everybody knows there are no goals of this. As I
Speaker 2: pointed out yesterday Thomas Massey saying, how long is this
Speaker 2: going to go on? And what are the goals? And
Speaker 2: is this only the first two hundred billion? How long
Speaker 2: is it going to take for this to turn into
Speaker 2: a trillion. This is what we see over and over again.
Speaker 3: Two hundred billion here, two hundred billion there. Pretty soon
Speaker 3: you're talking about real money.
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, she get the clip of that guy,
Speaker 2: Everick Dirickson. He was a real character, you know he was.
Speaker 2: Actually he's a Republican from Illinois of all things. Think
Speaker 2: about any Republicans from Illinois today, do you. Well, We're
Speaker 2: going to take a quick break, folks, and we'll be
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Speaker 1: There was.
Speaker 2: A speech that was done by BB or by I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was as Avatar or not. I'm
Speaker 2: still kind of uncertain about that. We've had some situations
Speaker 2: now where it looks like he was in public, but
Speaker 2: you know, the state of AI. And the fact is
Speaker 2: that they put out several videos are obviously rigged by AI.
Speaker 2: So you've got to ask you, so why would they
Speaker 2: do that? As people were rumors that he had been
Speaker 2: killed or injured, was in coma or something like that.
Speaker 2: And so, nevertheless, it's the content of what he has
Speaker 2: to say, because whether it's him or whether there is
Speaker 2: a situation like Biden, you've got a group of people
Speaker 2: who are doing the auto pen and the auto speech
Speaker 2: and the AI presentation of an avatar, it still represents
Speaker 2: the Israeli government. And so when he was talking about
Speaker 2: how great Jesus, how great Genghis Khan was and greater
Speaker 2: than Jesus, a lot of people said, what's going on
Speaker 2: with this? Well, I'm just quoting this other guy, But
Speaker 2: he was really showing how a secular atheist pagan like
Speaker 2: him is focused on conquering and on land and on money,
Speaker 2: on power, putting their trust not in God but putting
Speaker 2: their trust in their chariots and horses, as I would
Speaker 2: say in the Old Testament. And I think it's time
Speaker 2: for Christians to kind of wake up and understand where
Speaker 2: this is going and stop worshiping this secular government that's
Speaker 2: not even their own country, and that it's abusing our
Speaker 2: country for this. It's a very concerning thing. As a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, there was Jeffrey sachs is talking to
Speaker 2: Piers Morgan. I'm going to clip I'll play for here
Speaker 2: in a second, and that's one of the things he mentioned.
Speaker 2: He said, you got to understand there's pretty significant group
Speaker 2: of Americans who are looking at all this and you know,
Speaker 2: this is some of the stuff that's coming from Pete
Speaker 2: Hesse saying, you know, well this is good because it's
Speaker 2: the end of the world, and you know, I get
Speaker 2: helicoptered out of here that type of thing. You got
Speaker 2: to be careful that you don't fall into something like that.
Speaker 2: And more than anything, you got to be careful that
Speaker 2: you don't replace. If you are a professing Christian, you
Speaker 2: need to follow Christ. You need to try to figure
Speaker 2: out it's not that easy to try to have a relationship.
Speaker 2: You know, we all can have it at one simple aspect,
Speaker 2: but we have something we have to strive for. And
Speaker 2: yet I look at some of these churches. What they're
Speaker 2: striving for is to kind of try to figure out
Speaker 2: like some kind of a fortune telling thing, and it
Speaker 2: looks more like fortune telling and divination than it does
Speaker 2: looking at prophecy. From my perspective, at least, that's the
Speaker 2: way I look at it. And if you spend all
Speaker 2: your time trying to figure out what's going on with
Speaker 2: current events, wars and politics and foreign governments and other
Speaker 2: groups of people who deny the Lord Jesus Christ as
Speaker 2: Lord and savior, you spend all your time focused on that,
Speaker 2: you're wasting time that you could be spending trying to
Speaker 2: have a better relationship with Christ. That's just going to
Speaker 2: make the difference in your life, folks. It's you know,
Speaker 2: we look at all of these problems that are coming along.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of bad news in the world, isn't there.
Speaker 2: You know, there's nothing but clouds on the horizon, whether
Speaker 2: you're looking at economics or peace or war or any
Speaker 2: of the rest of the stuff. And yet there can
Speaker 2: be in your life a joy, a peace that passes
Speaker 2: any kind of secular understanding. Certainly not Yaho's not going
Speaker 2: to understand it. Trump's not going to understand it. These
Speaker 2: guys are busy trying to figure out how they can
Speaker 2: kill somebody to take their land or property. And so
Speaker 2: it's not it's a piece that they don't have. They're
Speaker 2: going to wake up at six am raging at some
Speaker 2: group or some people across the world. That's really what
Speaker 2: you want to focus on. And it bothers me a
Speaker 2: great deal to see that non Christians think that what
Speaker 2: these people are focused on is Christianity. They're not following Christ.
Speaker 2: They're following current events. They're following secular political governments. They're
Speaker 2: not following Christ. And when Jesus said, you know you
Speaker 2: search the scriptures because you think they give you eternal life.
Speaker 2: Some people are searching the scriptures because they think they're
Speaker 2: going to get helicoptered out of here without having to die.
Speaker 2: But he said they testify of me. If he were
Speaker 2: to come back and look at this, he would say,
Speaker 2: you search scriptures, because then then you think you've got
Speaker 2: a title deed to most of the Middle East. That's
Speaker 2: what Zionism is really about. Except what we're looking for
Speaker 2: is not a temporary expanse of land. We're looking for
Speaker 2: an eternal relationship, eternal life with Christ. That's what brings
Speaker 2: peace to people. That's what's really valuable. Was it profit
Speaker 2: a man to gain the entire Middle East and lose
Speaker 2: his own soul. These people are not just at war
Speaker 2: with these Gulf state countries, they are at war with
Speaker 2: the Lord. And again read their own scriptures. Why do
Speaker 2: they rage at God and his anointed? And that is
Speaker 2: the sad part about it. And I just have to say,
Speaker 2: and it's important for us to say this because people
Speaker 2: need to understand that is not what Christianity is about
Speaker 2: at all. Christianity is about the Lord Jesus Christ, not
Speaker 2: about and they have replaced that's a real replacement theology.
Speaker 2: They replaced Christ with a secular political state. It's always
Speaker 2: easy to create an idol, and we've got a lot
Speaker 2: of these Christian nationalists that are doing the same thing
Speaker 2: with America. Right, So you can put the American political
Speaker 2: government or system, or you can you can even do
Speaker 2: that with your family, right. I've seen that in some
Speaker 2: homeschooling churches that I've had some involvement with. You can
Speaker 2: make an idol out of anything, even out of good
Speaker 2: things like the family. And it's really sad when you
Speaker 2: make an idol out of something that is as evil
Speaker 2: as these political systems. So at the bottom, a natural
Speaker 2: selection of the fittest individuals and groups and a struggle
Speaker 2: wherein goodness receives no favors. That's really the philosophy extended
Speaker 2: of this guy Will Durant that Netanyahu is quoting. And
Speaker 2: you notice what that says. A natural selection of the
Speaker 2: fittest individuals, a survival of the fittest. This goes back
Speaker 2: to a kind of evolutionary nihilism. That's what wil Durant
Speaker 2: was putting out. That's the context of where he says, well,
Speaker 2: Genghis Kan is greater than Jesus Christ, because this is
Speaker 2: coming from a godless, evolutionary nihilism worldview. And yet we
Speaker 2: look at this and we see that God is in control.
Speaker 2: That is a very stabilizing thing that gives you an anchor,
Speaker 2: put something under your feet. Otherwise, I just don't know
Speaker 2: how these people get through life. You know, they're constantly
Speaker 2: looking behind them thinking somebody's going to take something from them,
Speaker 2: because that's what they would do. It's going to be
Speaker 2: survival of the fittest. So you've got to get these
Speaker 2: people before they get you. That's how we're in this
Speaker 2: war right now with Iran. I got to get them
Speaker 2: before they get us. He argued that Israel, along with
Speaker 2: the world's democracies has quote no choice but to quote
Speaker 2: a posse their enemies and time while there is still time.
Speaker 2: So again, out of an evil heart that rejects God
Speaker 2: and is in rebellion to God, comes this war, this
Speaker 2: death that they are inflicting on everybody. We have no
Speaker 2: choice but to get these people before they get asked.
Speaker 2: That's what happens when you have pushed the Lord Jesus
Speaker 2: Christ out of your life and you want to become
Speaker 2: Ginghis Khan. Nettana, who responded, he said, all he meant
Speaker 2: to convey was that a quote morally superior civilization may
Speaker 2: still fall to a ruthless enemy if it doesn't have
Speaker 2: the power to defend itself. Let's understand that you will
Speaker 2: become a ruthless civilization if you have the values, if
Speaker 2: you value what Ginghis Khan did. If you decide that
Speaker 2: you're going to take out your enemies before they have
Speaker 2: a chance to take you out, you're going to kill
Speaker 2: everybody around you. That is the kind of Machiavelian path
Speaker 2: to unhappiness. Quite frankly, yes.
Speaker 3: The idea that Jesus isn't greater than Genghis Khan can
Speaker 3: only happen from someone that's strictly looking at the material world.
Speaker 3: Christ was very clear that his kingdom is not of
Speaker 3: this world, but Nata who wants to make it that
Speaker 3: his kingdom is only the greater Israel project. Until they
Speaker 3: get all that land, then it will be even more.
Speaker 2: That's right. And when you go to the church that
Speaker 2: I think the first name is John Hagi, who was
Speaker 2: in San Antonio. He's got a big megachurch. They have
Speaker 2: Israeli flags up, they bring in Israeli politicians and it's
Speaker 2: current events and Israel Israel Israel all the time. They
Speaker 2: basically have pushed Christ and God out of their church.
Speaker 2: I'll look at this sense, why would anybody go to
Speaker 2: a church like that. I just don't see how there
Speaker 2: is any comfort at all in placing your trust in
Speaker 2: a government, especially a foreign government. It's not going to
Speaker 2: do anything to help you at all. Unofficial Israeli spokesperson
Speaker 2: Elon Levy insisted that Mike doesn't make right, but without it,
Speaker 2: the righteous perish, do they? God's hand is too short
Speaker 2: to save. See that's the key thing. You know, we
Speaker 2: go back and take a look at the things we
Speaker 2: all faced as individuals. A lot of you faced situations
Speaker 2: where you had there was a threat you were going
Speaker 2: to lose your job, lose your career that you'd work
Speaker 2: for and invested a lot of time in to get
Speaker 2: to where you were, and it was all going to
Speaker 2: be taken away from you. And many people did it
Speaker 2: anyway because they had they had real religious objections to this,
Speaker 2: and they trusted God to take care of them. You know,
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to a single person that took that
Speaker 2: lonely path, that gave up their job and their position
Speaker 2: because they wanted to follow God and follow their conscience.
Speaker 2: I've not talked to a single person who has any regrets.
Speaker 2: They all are as better as well off. Most of
Speaker 2: them are much much better. They wound up starting their
Speaker 2: own business, or they found an employer who was actually
Speaker 2: a good employer, somebody that's going to treat you like
Speaker 2: a human being instead of an animal that's part of
Speaker 2: their inventory. They all came out better. Why because they
Speaker 2: put their trust in God. God says that he will
Speaker 2: honor those who honor him. Can we not trust that
Speaker 2: is the only promise in the Bible, the promise that
Speaker 2: Israel gets all the Middle East, And that's not even
Speaker 2: promised that's not promised. God made promises to them. He
Speaker 2: had Joshua say, and God has fulfilled that promise. He's
Speaker 2: given you all the land that he promised. He also
Speaker 2: promised that he would take them out if they didn't
Speaker 2: follow him. So yeah, he does keep those promises, doesn't he.
Speaker 2: So Durant's original historical assessment, delivered from a perch of
Speaker 2: smug secularism, unquestionably did diminish Christ's historical stature. Elsewhere, they
Speaker 2: trace how contemporary Christianity has progressed to the idea that
Speaker 2: Jesus is a tame lion unnerved by the Jesus of
Speaker 2: old paintings who cast people onto the fires of hell.
Speaker 2: Gentle main lion Jesus now appears no match for Genghis
Speaker 2: Khan and no wonder As Dorothy Sayers said, we have
Speaker 2: effective efficiently paired the clause of the Lion of Judah
Speaker 2: certified him as meek and mild, and recommended him as
Speaker 2: a fitting household pet for pale curates and pious old ladies.
Speaker 2: So that's one of the reasons why C. S. Lewis
Speaker 2: would portray as in the Lion as a picture of Christ.
Speaker 2: He would make sure that the kids realize that he's
Speaker 2: really dangerous. You know, you gotta watch out. Like many
Speaker 2: Jews whose identity is more in natural and cultural than religious, Netanyah,
Speaker 2: who has inherited the secular liberal legacy, deep in the
Speaker 2: heart of Jewish self understanding is a belief that absolutely
Speaker 2: no one is coming to save the Jews accept the Jews.
Speaker 2: And again, this is what we talked about earlier this week,
Speaker 2: the different interpretations of Christian versus the Jewish interpretation of
Speaker 2: Isaiah fifty three, the Rabbinical Jews after Jesus, because remember
Speaker 2: we've found from the dead Seas rolls that they predated
Speaker 2: Christ by seven hundred years. And so the book of
Speaker 2: Isaiah throughout is talking about how God's people had turned
Speaker 2: from him. And so if God's people have turned from him,
Speaker 2: and as Isaiah said, all all have sinned, all have
Speaker 2: gone their own way like sheep, we've all gone astray. Right,
Speaker 2: So if that's the case, how do you get if
Speaker 2: the servant then is not a redeeming Messiah but the
Speaker 2: collective group of Israel. If they are under condemnation for
Speaker 2: each having gone their own way, and there is no
Speaker 2: one righteous, not one, how then do they can they
Speaker 2: then be sinless. At the same time, you've got a
Speaker 2: self contradictory statement there if you don't see the servant
Speaker 2: as being a figure like Christ who is sinless and
Speaker 2: dying for the sins of the people, not just the Israelis,
Speaker 2: but everybody, all the nations. And so there's issues like that,
Speaker 2: and that's what happens. That's why I say we look
Speaker 2: at Zionism, when we look at dispensationalism. What it's doing
Speaker 2: is replacement theology, replacing Christ with Israel, which is what
Speaker 2: the rabbinical commentators did in Isaiah fifty three. They replaced
Speaker 2: the Messiah the Savior with the nation of Israel. It
Speaker 2: is self contradictory. We will save ourselves, we don't need anybody.
Speaker 2: Nobody is coming, and so we're in this and we've
Speaker 2: got to get everybody else before they get us. That's
Speaker 2: why you see the kinds of atrocities being committed by
Speaker 2: the Israeli government, because it comes from that attitude. Out
Speaker 2: of the heart come these actions. As a man thinks,
Speaker 2: so is he. They see themselves not only as the
Speaker 2: last best hope for their own people, but for all
Speaker 2: of civilization, and they are saving the world right now
Speaker 2: they think while Christians dream about flying away to heaven someday,
Speaker 2: that's how they see us. And I'm afraid there's a
Speaker 2: lot of Christians who live their life that way. Christ
Speaker 2: is not merely an admirable man who told the world
Speaker 2: to be kind and then got murdered for his efforts.
Speaker 2: You know, that's you know the whole thing that well,
Speaker 2: he took on the bankers, and the bankers killed him.
Speaker 2: That's a bad understanding. He said, no one takes my
Speaker 2: life from me. I lay it down for my friends,
Speaker 2: and I can take it back up again. And he
Speaker 2: did that deliberately. And his death is not merely one
Speaker 2: more historical event that is sad, and a long line
Speaker 2: of sad historical events. Christ did not require our assistance
Speaker 2: to save the world, nor will he require our permission
Speaker 2: to subdue it when he returns in judgment and great glory.
Speaker 2: And so that's why when you look at the Zionists
Speaker 2: like Huckabee, they ignore Christ, and they do a great
Speaker 2: disservice to him and a great disservice to the people
Speaker 2: that they should be giving the Gospel to, especially the
Speaker 2: Jewish people. Don't worry, you don't need to I've heard
Speaker 2: Paul White say that, don't worry you don't they're Jewish,
Speaker 2: You don't need to give them the Gospel. Yes they
Speaker 2: need it. And so what is the fruit of this
Speaker 2: when we single out one group of people, or one
Speaker 2: group of people single out themselves and say that they
Speaker 2: are better than everybody else. Isn't that what the Germans
Speaker 2: were famous for with their master race. Well, you wind
Speaker 2: up with things like this. Gwn Greenwal said he was
Speaker 2: surprised to see the prohibitions against any of the bds.
Speaker 2: The boycott, divest, and forget what the essay is about.
Speaker 2: But people who want to do an economic boycott of
Speaker 2: Israel that's prohibited in most states.
Speaker 10: Thirty six states, mostly Red states, but not only And
Speaker 10: I know you heard me talk about there's Attucker, there's
Speaker 10: a lawn place that says if you want to have
Speaker 10: a contract with the state government, you have to certify
Speaker 10: that you do not support or participate in the government
Speaker 10: a boycott of Israel. You can boycott the United States
Speaker 10: and other states. You can boycott North Carolina, you can
Speaker 10: boycott Norway or Indonesia or Peru. You just can't boycott
Speaker 10: this one country, Israel. And I actually profiled a woman
Speaker 10: who had strolling job performances in Texas where she was
Speaker 10: a speech pathologist in Austin school district, but she supported
Speaker 10: a boycott of Israel and she got fired. This is
Speaker 10: unbelievable that as citizen in the United States, if you
Speaker 10: want a contract with the state, you have to certify
Speaker 10: you don't participate in a boycott or support a boycott
Speaker 10: of a foreign country. There's no similar laws for Palestinians
Speaker 10: because the power center in our governments and did our
Speaker 10: financial private sector power centers are obviously far more pro
Speaker 10: Israel than anything else.
Speaker 2: So yeah, thirty six states that sevent you cannot boycott
Speaker 2: Israel or there'll be repercussions for you. Take a look
Speaker 2: at this sheriff arrested somebody who did a meme criticizing him,
Speaker 2: and they put up some Jewish memes there. I don't
Speaker 2: know if the sheriff is Jewish. Now do you remember
Speaker 2: trying Lance. Do you remember if he was Jewish or not?
Speaker 3: I had heard he wasn't, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll just let you see the clip here and
Speaker 2: we'll talk about it.
Speaker 11: I'll give you this by way of example.
Speaker 12: Some sponscum felt empowered and emboldened enough to put this
Speaker 12: picture of me up to try to threaten and intimidate me, which.
Speaker 11: Of course he didn't do because I signed up for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not at all about.
Speaker 11: This, right, A bunch of terrible things.
Speaker 2: I've got really thick skins. So somebody puts a picture
Speaker 2: of me up with a Star of David on my forehead,
Speaker 2: I'm perfectly fine with that.
Speaker 12: I signed up for the way it was arrested today
Speaker 12: in Wisconsin. If this person is emboldened and empowered enough
Speaker 12: by the.
Speaker 2: First Amendment.
Speaker 11: To do this for me, what does he do to
Speaker 11: a kid? What does he do to a Jewish family
Speaker 11: walking down the street?
Speaker 2: Think of the meme he would tell me.
Speaker 11: And that's because of the normalization of this.
Speaker 12: He's so mean television and saying Okay, I feel empowered
Speaker 12: enough that I can do this.
Speaker 11: Well, A, you can't, and.
Speaker 2: B why not? If you think this is what the
Speaker 2: hate speech turns into.
Speaker 12: Folks Again, what are you going to do in a
Speaker 12: in an alley or in a street to a Jewish
Speaker 12: family or a kid walking down the street.
Speaker 2: If you've got the nerve to criticize me the share
Speaker 2: think what they do to anybody else is not as
Speaker 2: important as me. How THEU that is. I remember when
Speaker 2: Rowan Atkinson years ago and unfortunately they got a temporary reprieve,
Speaker 2: but it didn't last long. Trying to shut down these
Speaker 2: hate speech laws. He made a he talked about how
Speaker 2: it's going to be the end of comedy, you know,
Speaker 2: he and John Clees and a lot of people like that.
Speaker 2: And he said, please insult me. Go ahead, insult me.
Speaker 2: I can take it because I want to have free speech.
Speaker 2: And uh, it's we don't want to live like that.
Speaker 2: That's one of the most disgusting clips I've seen this
Speaker 2: week is that sheriff. Imagine this guy, this pond scum
Speaker 2: who put a clip up of me, and he's got like,
Speaker 2: what was it, like dreadlocks or whatever they have the
Speaker 2: ultra orthodox.
Speaker 3: It's the curly sideburned thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they call curly hair. I don't
Speaker 2: know what it's called. But and then he's got a
Speaker 2: star of David on his heading. Go he did this
Speaker 2: of me? How dare him do something like that? He
Speaker 2: is empowered and embolden, Yeah, by the First Amendment, which
Speaker 2: you swore to hold. It's pretty pathetic and then we've
Speaker 2: got this. This is a US sergeant who has been
Speaker 2: kicked out because they didn't like what he had to
Speaker 2: say about a foreign government, Israel.
Speaker 13: So after twenty years of service in the military, yesterday
Speaker 13: I got pulled into an officer's office and counseled for
Speaker 13: posts that I have on my social media. During the counseling,
Speaker 13: they told me I'm under investigation as a threat to
Speaker 13: national security.
Speaker 2: Which nation.
Speaker 13: When I asked for proof like what the posts were yesterday,
Speaker 13: they refused to give it to me.
Speaker 6: They made me come back today.
Speaker 2: To further go over stuff.
Speaker 13: They gave me the proof, and the proof they gave
Speaker 13: me are anti Israel post. Now, I when I joined
Speaker 13: the military, I took an allegiance to support the United
Speaker 13: States of America. I did not ever take an allegiance
Speaker 13: to support Israel. But yet I am deemed a national
Speaker 13: a threat to national security because I do not support
Speaker 13: Israel and there genocide against the Palestinian people.
Speaker 6: Yes, you heard that right.
Speaker 13: I am deemed a threat to national security because I
Speaker 13: don't support Israel's genocide against the Palestinian people.
Speaker 2: That's right. And if you are a student.
Speaker 13: Does not supporting them.
Speaker 2: They will threaten to have this follow you your entire life.
Speaker 8: If you target Jewish students, your actions will not disappear
Speaker 8: into the darkness. We will shine shine a light on
Speaker 8: you that, thanks to Google and SEO, will follow you
Speaker 8: for the rest of your life. When you look for
Speaker 8: a job, when you look for a spouse, when you
Speaker 8: look for a nanny, when you look for anything.
Speaker 2: Our world, lady, we're going to shine a light on
Speaker 2: you because we don't appreciate people coming to our country
Speaker 2: and trying to shut down our constitution, threatening us. You
Speaker 2: want to know who owns you as those you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to criticize. We're not going to be owned by
Speaker 2: these Zionists who are trying to take over our government.
Speaker 2: We will criticize our own government, and we will criticize
Speaker 2: your government. And the more you do this, the more
Speaker 2: we will criticize you. And justly so. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, we've got a situation right here in Tennessee.
Speaker 2: We've got this thug state senator who put a bill
Speaker 2: in to say, well, you're not going to be even
Speaker 2: allowed to refer to that geographical area as Palestine. You
Speaker 2: have to refer to it as Judea and Samaria. You know,
Speaker 2: like Huckabee wants to refer to it. This is a
Speaker 2: journalist with the Tennessee Haller, and the guy is Jewish himself.
Speaker 2: And this Jewish journalist engages this senator, who then threatens him.
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm going.
Speaker 7: To that veteran saying that that bill came from an
Speaker 7: organization that believes in annexation.
Speaker 11: What do you think about that? Who gave you that bill? Okay,
Speaker 11: senator gave you that bill? About the west Man?
Speaker 2: Who gave it to you?
Speaker 6: And you worried at.
Speaker 7: All about Israel's influence on your netherland as they pushed
Speaker 7: us to war? You know, they pushed us into a war,
Speaker 7: Senator Rose, and here you are doing their bidding.
Speaker 11: What do you think about?
Speaker 6: Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 11: What do you think about that, Senator Rolls?
Speaker 7: What do you think about that you're doing Israel's bidding
Speaker 7: as they push us into war?
Speaker 11: I say this as a g a family and Israel.
Speaker 11: Senator Rose, Why are you doing Israel as they push.
Speaker 6: Us at home? You know, I'm not just because.
Speaker 11: Can you give us sat.
Speaker 6: With them?
Speaker 11: So let me how many conversations that you're not going to?
Speaker 6: But I'm not gonna talk. No, no, sorry, I did
Speaker 6: not say if we were home.
Speaker 11: If we were home, you do what he didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 11: the camera is the witness that he did, So don't
Speaker 11: worry about that. Why are you doing Israel's bidding while amazing?
Speaker 11: That's the question.
Speaker 2: This is right here in Tennessee.
Speaker 7: Are you concerned at all that you're doing Israel.
Speaker 2: Boot liquor for Israel? And this is a Jewish reporter
Speaker 2: calling him out on this.
Speaker 11: It's not just Democrats.
Speaker 7: This isn't a partisan issue. Why is it our business
Speaker 7: to be changing the name of something? Take a swing
Speaker 7: at me then, Paul, go ahead, see what happens. Paul,
Speaker 7: You're too old to be doing stuff like that. Man,
Speaker 7: I'm too old to be threatening people.
Speaker 6: Dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, the reporter is justin Canoe and he has
Speaker 2: a publication called Tennessee Holler. And he said, why are
Speaker 2: you doing Israel's bidding as they're pushing us into war?
Speaker 2: He said, and I say this as a Jew who
Speaker 2: has family in Israel. He said, you're doing is real
Speaker 2: is bidding. And he said, you know, if I was
Speaker 2: at home, i'd bust your face right now threatening me. No, sir,
Speaker 2: I'm not certainly sounds like a threat. And then the
Speaker 2: other guy says, well, I'm the witness that he didn't
Speaker 2: in the canoe says, the camera is the witness that he did.
Speaker 2: So don't worry about that. She had this guy on
Speaker 2: to talk to him. Good job. You know. That's one
Speaker 2: thing I really hate. They want to shut everybody down.
Speaker 2: No criticism is allowed. They can do whatever they want
Speaker 2: as long as they want. They can target civilians, they
Speaker 2: can make it clear that they want to kill everybody
Speaker 2: because they want the land, and hey, who are we
Speaker 2: to argue with them. If they want the land, they
Speaker 2: can take it right. Well, you have the UK Telegraph
Speaker 2: cave to it. The Tennessee holler didn't good for you,
Speaker 2: but the UK Telegraph did cave to all this. There
Speaker 2: was an article about the Epstein Empire and they talked
Speaker 2: about Christians and Hesbelah. The Telegraph has removed an article
Speaker 2: from its website that's in the UK about the close
Speaker 2: ties between Hesbela and the Christian town of raz Bilbeck
Speaker 2: in northeastern Lebanon. The story, which is accessible for only
Speaker 2: about a day, portrayed the militant movement in a positive
Speaker 2: light while mentioning the local resentment of Israel. The story
Speaker 2: was published on Monday, amid the ongoing Israeli military offensive
Speaker 2: against Hesbolah in Lebanon that began earlier this month and
Speaker 2: has already left more than eight hundred and eighty people dead,
Speaker 2: over two thousand injured, and about a million people displaced.
Speaker 2: When Jerusalem launched the campaign after Hesbola launched waves of
Speaker 2: strikes on the Jewish state and retaliation for the killing
Speaker 2: of Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei Kamani and a joint
Speaker 2: US Israeli campaign against Iran. According to the now inaccessible article,
Speaker 2: the residents of ras Balbeck formed a strong bond with
Speaker 2: Hesbola when the militants came to their defense against attacks
Speaker 2: by ISIS militants between twenty thirteen and twenty seventeen. Hesbela
Speaker 2: also reportedly aided the town with medical care during the
Speaker 2: COVID nineteen pandemic, supplied electricity generators and even gave them
Speaker 2: Christmas trees. Well, we can't talk about that, So the
Speaker 2: UK Telegraph, which is a major international publication, took the
Speaker 2: article down because you can't show that there is anything
Speaker 2: good about some groups of people, right, we have to
Speaker 2: have this tribalism. We have to have the master race,
Speaker 2: or the chosen people, or whatever they want to call it.
Speaker 2: The relationship between the village and Hesbelah, they said, is
Speaker 2: stronger than that with the they have with the Pope.
Speaker 2: The head of the town with six thousand strong Catholic population,
Speaker 2: told the Telegraph, adding that the Shia Muslim movement members
Speaker 2: quote protect our churches. Israel is our first enemy. Hesbelah
Speaker 2: is our friend, they said. A Muslim refugee residing in
Speaker 2: the village also told journalists that Hesbelo was allegedly fighting
Speaker 2: child eating Epstein people who say that we are not human.
Speaker 2: On Tuesday, Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz announced plans for
Speaker 2: the occupation of southern Lebanon up to the Latani River,
Speaker 2: some forty kilometers north of the Lebanese border, that's about
Speaker 2: twenty four miles. Hesbela has called West Jerusalem's plans an
Speaker 2: existential threat, adding that it has no choice but to fight. Well.
Speaker 2: He had John Kiriaku on with Joe Rogan, and he
Speaker 2: had this to say about what is going on with
Speaker 2: the settlers and the land there.
Speaker 14: Talking about the West Bank right where just two weeks
Speaker 14: ago a Christian village ceased to exist because settlers from
Speaker 14: New Jersey took all their houses. You know what happens
Speaker 14: next from New Jersey.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 14: There are a lot of synagogues in New York, New Jersey,
Speaker 14: Toronto that have these things called real estate seminars where
Speaker 14: you can put your name on a list and then
Speaker 14: they call you and say, hey, house just opened up
Speaker 14: over here in this Arab village that's not Arab anymore.
Speaker 14: Come and take your house.
Speaker 7: You are stealing my house.
Speaker 3: And if I don't stealing, someone else is going to
Speaker 3: steal this.
Speaker 14: And the two weeks ago the village that the one
Speaker 14: of the last remaining Christian villages.
Speaker 2: Drives me crazy.
Speaker 7: So what do you think they're overall strategies they eventually
Speaker 7: want to just take over all oh house.
Speaker 14: I think we should We should believe the Israelis when
Speaker 14: they tell us that they believe in greater Israel.
Speaker 2: That's right? And what does greater Israel look like?
Speaker 15: In twenty twenty four, an Israeli soldier was photographed in
Speaker 15: Gaza wearing this badge. It shows an imagined country stretching
Speaker 15: from the Nile in Egypt to the Euphrates in Iraq.
Speaker 15: It includes all of Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, and chunks of Syria, Egypt,
Speaker 15: Iraq and Saudi Arabia. It's called Greater Israel, what Israeli
Speaker 15: Prime Minister Benjamin net Yahoo calls a historic and spiritual mission. Today,
Speaker 15: Israel's internationally recognized territory covers almost twenty one thousand square kilometers.
Speaker 15: The territory on that badge roughly half a million square kilometers.
Speaker 15: Basically twenty five times larger. Is Greater Israel already happening
Speaker 15: on the ground. A smaller version already exists Israel plus
Speaker 15: the occupied Palestinian territories, plus the Goal and heights taken
Speaker 15: from Syria about twenty seven thousand square kilometers, with eight
Speaker 15: hundred thousand settlers on illegally occupied land. The big version
Speaker 15: seen on the badge would absorb, in whole or in part,
Speaker 15: land from seven sovereign nations where over one hundred and
Speaker 15: twenty million people live, supported by settlers, and given a
Speaker 15: nod by the US Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee. But
Speaker 15: where did the idea come from? It traces back to
Speaker 15: Genesis fifteen eighteen, where God makes a covenant with Abraham,
Speaker 15: promising his descendants that land. It is quoted by the
Speaker 15: founder of modern Zionism, Theodore Hertzel in eighteen ninety eight
Speaker 15: as the borders of a future Jewish state. Decades later,
Speaker 15: the idea became a strategy. In nineteen eighty two, Voted Yinon,
Speaker 15: a former Israeli Foreign Ministry official, published a strategy for
Speaker 15: Israel in the nineteen eighties. The article argued that Israel's
Speaker 15: security required the fragmentation of surrounding Arab states. In nineteen
Speaker 15: ninety six, a policy paper for Netanyahu called a Clean
Speaker 15: Break recommended abandoning the Oslo peace process and weakening Iraq, Syria,
Speaker 15: and Lebanon. From Herzel to Netanyahu, more than a century apart,
Speaker 15: there's one trajectory. You don't take the land, you break
Speaker 15: the states around you until no one can stop you
Speaker 15: from taking what you want. That pattern is playing out
Speaker 15: right now. Finance Minister Bezelel Smotrich laid out the strategy
Speaker 15: in a leaked recording do the annexation without calling it annexation.
Speaker 15: His map claims eighty two percent of the occupied West Bank.
Speaker 15: He vowed to add a million Israeli settlers to Palestinian land,
Speaker 15: about half of Israelis polled support expanding control over Palestinian
Speaker 15: territories and pursuing annexation. Support for negotiating a Palestinian state
Speaker 15: has collapsed to just one in ten in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Iran.
Speaker 15: The wars of the past two years almost all fall
Speaker 15: within the borders of the Greater Israel map. Many steps
Speaker 15: are similar a military operation, a buffer zone, and then outposts, settlements,
Speaker 15: and annexation. Israel has never officially defined its borders. In
Speaker 15: nineteen forty eight, its first Prime Minister, David Ben Gurion refused,
Speaker 15: saying Israel would expand beyond partition once it built its strength.
Speaker 15: Since then, every border Israel has ever drawn has been temporary.
Speaker 15: Every expansion has been permanent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the bigger issue right there. And I think
Speaker 2: when we look at this war, Israel always shooting whenever
Speaker 2: they tried to. Trump might try to pull it back
Speaker 2: and try to a ceasefire or something, try to find
Speaker 2: an exit, but he can't because the Israelis start shooting things.
Speaker 2: And the Israelis would love to provoke the Iranians and
Speaker 2: attack them and have them follow through on their retaliatory
Speaker 2: promise and destroy most of the Gulf States, that softens
Speaker 2: them up, breaks them apart right for the conquest. That's
Speaker 2: exactly what they're looking at. And when we look at
Speaker 2: what Huckabee said in terms of this is the clip
Speaker 2: I played earlier this week.
Speaker 14: Have you seen this?
Speaker 16: Abram's descendants are the ones who have the right to
Speaker 16: have this land?
Speaker 2: Correct? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 16: Why don't we do genetic testing on everybody in the
Speaker 16: land and find out who Abram's descendants are? It's really simple.
Speaker 16: We've cracked the human genome. We can do that. Why
Speaker 16: don't we do that? Would you be against doing that?
Speaker 17: I I have no idea what that would prove? I mean,
Speaker 17: maybe it would be what.
Speaker 16: Do you mean, what would it would prove who Abram's
Speaker 16: descendants are? And who has a right to lift here
Speaker 16: and who doesn't according to the theology that you yourself
Speaker 16: just explained. And so I'm very confused as to why
Speaker 16: we don't do that. If you believe the theology that
Speaker 16: you've just explained to me, would we do.
Speaker 17: That all over the world?
Speaker 16: Everybody is the only country in the world that you've
Speaker 16: said has this covenant with God that this people have
Speaker 16: a moral, illegal right to the land.
Speaker 17: But there are people who may not have bloodlines but
Speaker 17: who have converted to Judaism. Are they going to be
Speaker 17: able to live here? You're going to kick them out?
Speaker 16: By your standards, they can't live here. You just said no,
Speaker 16: that they have a right to live here because God
Speaker 16: gave them the land, because they're the sentence of Abram.
Speaker 17: This of Abraham. But if they're the spiritual descendants of
Speaker 17: Abraham and they've now decided that they're converting to Judaism,
Speaker 17: then do they have a right to live in Israel?
Speaker 16: Since you have since you began this conversation by asking me,
Speaker 16: did I think they had a right to come here?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my question was.
Speaker 2: And I play that clip a second time because if
Speaker 2: you're Christian, you need to understand how anti Christian. The
Speaker 2: theology that I could be as selling is no one
Speaker 2: comes to the Father. But by me said Christ, you
Speaker 2: can become anyone. It's available to anybody to become a
Speaker 2: child of God. It's available to anybody to be God's people.
Speaker 2: It's those who follow him, those who trust him, those
Speaker 2: who believe in him. That is the Christian doctrine. It's
Speaker 2: not based on genealogy at all, and so it's kind
Speaker 2: of interesting to hear Howckabee say that, Well, you know,
Speaker 2: they can be God's chosen people if they just join,
Speaker 2: if they start practicing the Jewish religion. Well, there's nothing
Speaker 2: in the Jewish religion that even pretends to take away
Speaker 2: people's transgressions or sins. For the last two thousand years
Speaker 2: since the Temple was destroyed, they don't even go through
Speaker 2: a process of animal sacrifice to take away sins. So
Speaker 2: what are you telling these people? Why would Huckabee do this?
Speaker 2: He has denied Christ, and he is denying Christ to
Speaker 2: these people saying that, well, if they become a Jewish,
Speaker 2: now they're God's chosen people, but not if they follow
Speaker 2: Christ right, And so that is the key thing, folks.
Speaker 2: They remove God, they remove Christ, they remove the good News,
Speaker 2: and that's what we cannot allowed to have happened. This
Speaker 2: is the issue of our day. And if we're going
Speaker 2: to take a back seat to this kind of judaizing
Speaker 2: that is being done through Huckabee, these people are going
Speaker 2: to take everything away from us. As you see them
Speaker 2: taking away our free speech, our free exercise, religion. There's
Speaker 2: no telling where there's no endpoint to this. It's just
Speaker 2: like this war with Iran for them, there's no endpoint
Speaker 2: to this, and we need to be pointing to christ
Speaker 2: not to some foreign political entity. You've got the quibbling
Speaker 2: that is going on with everything from the people who
Speaker 2: are reflexively supporting Israel all the time. Jennis Praeger rips
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson for saying his only loyalty is to the
Speaker 2: American people. And he's there with a Daily Wire with
Speaker 2: Jeremy Boring, who is the co founder of it, along with
Speaker 2: Ben Shapiro, the Daily Wire, and the two of them
Speaker 2: are talking about Tucker Carlson. They don't like anybody who
Speaker 2: criticizes Israel. And he says, why would he say his
Speaker 2: only loyalty is to this country? Why is that Christian?
Speaker 2: He said, that's your only loyalty. I just don't get it.
Speaker 2: It's a tribal based morality that I don't relate to.
Speaker 2: And they're talking about He says, yeah, he's hired a
Speaker 2: lot of Daily former Daily Wire employees and by all accounts,
Speaker 2: they really like working for him. He shows a lot
Speaker 2: of loyalty to them, so he's got other loyalties. Why
Speaker 2: would he say his only loyalty is to America? Well,
Speaker 2: he's talking about political loyalties, obviously, and we're looking at
Speaker 2: situations where people have divided loyalties. You know, we got
Speaker 2: people in Congress that are showing up in israelly military
Speaker 2: uniforms to Congress. What does that say about your divided loyalty?
Speaker 2: He says that Tucker's got some loyalty to his family,
Speaker 2: one would assume, to his brother very publicly, very obviously,
Speaker 2: and to some of these employees. He said, So it's
Speaker 2: not only loyalty, and I don't know why it would
Speaker 2: be good if it were his only loyalty, he said.
Speaker 2: Brager went on to say, I'm not America first. I'm
Speaker 2: morality first. What is good and then what is true?
Speaker 2: Those are my first loyalties. Well, then I guess he
Speaker 2: would oppose bb on Gaza, right, because what is being
Speaker 2: done there is not moral. It's not good. The issue is,
Speaker 2: he says, is it America first or is it America only? Well,
Speaker 2: it's not either of those, and it shouldn't be that
Speaker 2: for you and me either, right, it should be christ first. Right,
Speaker 2: That's one of the things he said, Make America great again?
Speaker 2: How about making America Christian again in terms of its
Speaker 2: values and I'm not saying we want to establish a
Speaker 2: state religion. That's the furthest thing that we should be
Speaker 2: looking for. That's the problem I have with these people
Speaker 2: like Pete Hegseth who are identify themselves as Christian nationalists.
Speaker 2: That is a perversion of Christ. As Lance said, you know,
Speaker 2: Minded is my kingdom, is not of this world. And
Speaker 2: so yes, we should work for the peace of our country,
Speaker 2: for the prosperity of our country. We should be focused
Speaker 2: on that first. We should be focused on our family.
Speaker 2: But what should come first is Christ. Christ is King
Speaker 2: and should be king in our life. That is the
Speaker 2: path to peace and to happiness. So, but it's not
Speaker 2: allowed for us to say that. If you say that
Speaker 2: Christ is king, they come after you, even though that
Speaker 2: has been what Christians believe and attests to from millennia.
Speaker 2: Now these people are coming after us and telling us
Speaker 2: that we can't do that. Well, We're going to stop
Speaker 2: at this point because I've got an interview coming up.
Speaker 2: I've got the utter in chief of the New American
Speaker 2: mister Benoit, and I'm very anxious to talk to him
Speaker 2: about what he sees happening with this war as well
Speaker 2: as with this country. And with America. First, we go
Speaker 2: to take a quick break and we will be right back.
Speaker 1: Stay with us, Liberty, It's your move.
Speaker 2: And now the David Knight Show.
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Speaker 2: Joining us now is Gary Benoy. He has been working
Speaker 2: with The New American for nearly fifty years, is just
Speaker 2: at the cusp of it. He is now the editor
Speaker 2: in chief of the New America, the publication of the
Speaker 2: John Birch Society. We're going to talk to him about
Speaker 2: his book. I really like the title of this, the
Speaker 2: John Birch Society, the Vanguard of the Americanist Cause. I
Speaker 2: think that's a great way to put it, and I
Speaker 2: think it's a good description of what they do. But
Speaker 2: we're going to begin by talking about the constitutional issues
Speaker 2: about declaring war since we're looking at this Iran war.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, Gary.
Speaker 6: Oh, thank you, so happy be on your program, David.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. You know, we look at this, We've
Speaker 2: talked about so many different aspects. The number one issue
Speaker 2: for me personally is the moral issue, but of course
Speaker 2: there's practical issues involved with all of this. There's also
Speaker 2: legal issues, which we're going to talk about. But the
Speaker 2: only thing they seem to be interested in is lethal issues.
Speaker 2: How many people can we kill? That's what we hear
Speaker 2: from feed Eggxeth all the time. He always wants to
Speaker 2: talk about lethality, lethality, but it never talks about that
Speaker 2: is there. So let's talk a little bit about the
Speaker 2: Constitution and war because we've had a slight pushback from
Speaker 2: the House and from the Senate on this, and of course,
Speaker 2: with the War Powers Act, the President was supposed to
Speaker 2: once they initiate acts of war against another country, they're
Speaker 2: supposed to notify Congress within forty eight hours. So they
Speaker 2: had Rubio go over and talk to the Gang of Eight,
Speaker 2: a term which I cannot find in the Constitution. Maybe
Speaker 2: you know it. Where it is in the Constitution, I
Speaker 2: can't find it. And so he talks to the leaders
Speaker 2: of the two different parties and a couple other people
Speaker 2: and told them that we had been pushed into it
Speaker 2: by Israel and that was the end of it. You know,
Speaker 2: we don't have any more discussions. And there have been
Speaker 2: bills that have been brought up in both the House
Speaker 2: and the Senate to say that we want to have
Speaker 2: a declaration of war before we continue with this. Those
Speaker 2: have both been shut down. And according to the War
Speaker 2: Powers Act, if there's not a declaration of war within
Speaker 2: sixty days, the president would have to withdraw. But of
Speaker 2: course that's not the way that it has worked for
Speaker 2: the longest time, is it.
Speaker 6: No, it's not. And actually you mentioned, David that you
Speaker 6: could not find the Gang of Eight terminology in the Constitution.
Speaker 6: But I can't not only find that, I also cannot
Speaker 6: find the War Powers Act in the Constitution. That's right,
Speaker 6: and the War Powers Act, of course, that was something
Speaker 6: that was done during the Vietnam War era to try
Speaker 6: to change things in the future where the president can
Speaker 6: just not will nearly go to war and have that
Speaker 6: war continue and escalated as long as he wants. But
Speaker 6: even the War Powers Act, I would argue, is unconstitutional.
Speaker 6: I would go back to the provisions and the Constitution itself,
Speaker 6: and those provisions are very clearly warded, assume me warded,
Speaker 6: and they assigned or the provisions assigned in the Constitution.
Speaker 6: It's an Article one, section eight assign most war powers
Speaker 6: to Congress, not to the president, specifically regarding the decision
Speaker 6: whether or not to go to war. That is specifically Congress.
Speaker 6: That is totally Congress. And the way it's word in
Speaker 6: the Constitution is the congressional power to declare war.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 6: And you know, David, the only reason they use the
Speaker 6: word declare as opposed to the word make is because
Speaker 6: the funding fathers did recognize, well, my goodness, what if
Speaker 6: the United States of America is subjected to a sudden
Speaker 6: attack and we have you know, the troops coming into America,
Speaker 6: and then the president would have to violate the Constitution
Speaker 6: in order to save the country from that sudden attack.
Speaker 6: That's the only reason why they made the word declare
Speaker 6: rather than the word make.
Speaker 2: That's right, and of course we need to be able
Speaker 2: to declare our causes for this declare. What the end is?
Speaker 2: The end goal? As many people said, if you don't
Speaker 2: have a declared ending to your war, it's never going
Speaker 2: to end, right, And so it just keeps going on
Speaker 2: on because we don't have it. We got these moving
Speaker 2: goals posts, and of course people get drawn into this
Speaker 2: with a tit and tat. That happens with war always.
Speaker 2: But you're absolutely right. Even the War Powers Act, of course,
Speaker 2: is not there. I view that as kind of a
Speaker 2: desperate act from Congress saying and we really mean it now. Exactly,
Speaker 2: They don't really mean it now.
Speaker 6: This is you know, how all of a sudden, all
Speaker 6: these liberal Democrats have discovered the Constitution. Yeah, on this specific.
Speaker 2: Thing, they are right.
Speaker 6: The president should not act as a king.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 6: The president should not have the power of a king
Speaker 6: to just have a war whenever he wants to. But
Speaker 6: you know, I can't help thinking, in particular, when you
Speaker 6: look at history, that if you head right now a
Speaker 6: Democrat president rather than a Republican president, that all of
Speaker 6: a sudden the Democrats would be taking the opposite position.
Speaker 2: Oh, we know, they would absolutely would, yes. And of course,
Speaker 2: when you look at the Senate, it was only forty
Speaker 2: seven percent of the senators, along partisan lines pretty much,
Speaker 2: that voted to stop this act of aggression, which is
Speaker 2: really what this war is. And in the House side
Speaker 2: it was slightly closer. It was forty nine percent saying
Speaker 2: we need to stop this and fifty one percent saying
Speaker 2: we don't care, do whatever you want. That is a
Speaker 2: sad situation. You know, I look at this and I
Speaker 2: think back to Mark Levin and his you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of the people trying to put together a constitutional
Speaker 2: convention to change the Constitution. And I know that the
Speaker 2: John Birch Society has warned about the dangers of this significantly.
Speaker 2: And I look at it and I say, well, if
Speaker 2: we've got a bunch of people who are not interested
Speaker 2: in following the constitution we've got, why would we allow
Speaker 2: that gang of people to write a new constitution because
Speaker 2: they won't even follow the rules that they've got right now?
Speaker 6: Oh, I agree with you completely regarding that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so's we're in a bad situation right now, aren't we.
Speaker 6: Yes, of course it is true that the funding Fathers
Speaker 6: put into the Constitution a provision for having an Article
Speaker 6: five convention. I would say that today would be the
Speaker 6: worst possible time we could employ that, yes, because there's
Speaker 6: so much of a lack of understanding on the part
Speaker 6: of the people today. And you know, if you go
Speaker 6: back to the Founding Fathers, you did have people of wisdom,
Speaker 6: and they created the government large enough to protect our freedom,
Speaker 6: but not so large that the government become a destroyer
Speaker 6: of the freedom that was supposed to protect. And what
Speaker 6: would happen today if we opened up a new convention?
Speaker 2: I agree with that, yeah, and wouldn't be.
Speaker 6: Just members of the John Bridges Society who would be there.
Speaker 2: It'd be the people who don't care what's in the
Speaker 2: Constitution and are going to do whatever they want. And
Speaker 2: that'd be an incredibly dangerous thing. Speaking of which, one
Speaker 2: of the things I just recently talked about, we have
Speaker 2: some really scary moves being made in terms of artificial
Speaker 2: intelligence and sweeping aside the Tenth Amendment to allow the
Speaker 2: federal government to rush forward with this as really a
Speaker 2: surveillance and speech control tool. And this has been introduced
Speaker 2: by both the Congress as well as a White House.
Speaker 2: And we've got a new bill that has come out
Speaker 2: by Marshall Blackburn, who will probably be the next governor
Speaker 2: of Tennessee, where I live, and she has utter contempt
Speaker 2: for what she calls a patchwork of regulations. That really
Speaker 2: is what the tenth Amendment is about, having the ability
Speaker 2: for different states to have different regulations for various things.
Speaker 2: But we know how from a practical standpoint, how that works.
Speaker 2: They want to be able to pull everything together in
Speaker 2: Washington so they can control the supposed regulatory body. The
Speaker 2: regulatory capture that will result will allow them to do
Speaker 2: whatever they wish. So it is a move to stop
Speaker 2: all regulation and to federalize all artificial intelligence. It's a
Speaker 2: very very dangerous move I think that's happening.
Speaker 6: Well, I agree completely. It is very very dangerous. And
Speaker 6: of course the founding fathers recognize the corrupting influence of power.
Speaker 6: So when they created the the federal government, they did
Speaker 6: not want to put all the power of government into
Speaker 6: a single part. And so what they did was they
Speaker 6: defined a few powers that government could have on the
Speaker 6: national level, and then they took those few specified powers
Speaker 6: and they divided them among the three branches of government,
Speaker 6: the executive, the legislative, in the judicial. And then they
Speaker 6: built in a brilliant system of checks and balances to
Speaker 6: try to prevent power from being consolidated, let's say, in
Speaker 6: the executive branch or into another branch, so the various
Speaker 6: branches could check themselves. But then they took all other
Speaker 6: powers of government, and of course this is where the
Speaker 6: Tenth Amendment comes in, all other powers, and they reserve
Speaker 6: them to the people and to the estates.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. And so this is it's almost
Speaker 2: like if you go back to the Lord of the
Speaker 2: Rings analogy It's like they found this new ring of
Speaker 2: power which is incredibly powerful of this artificial intelligence, the
Speaker 2: ability to be able to go back and audit everybody
Speaker 2: or everything and very fine detail, and to collate all
Speaker 2: the information that they've been collecting on people for a
Speaker 2: very long time. I remember over a decade ago talking
Speaker 2: about the massive amounts of information that they were saving.
Speaker 2: I had an interview with William Benny, who was global
Speaker 2: technical head of the NSA, and he was saying, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're saving everything on everybody, and they're just waiting until
Speaker 2: they've got the computer power to go back and organize
Speaker 2: all this stuff and collate it. That's where we are
Speaker 2: right now. It's a very very dangerous thing. When I
Speaker 2: look at the powers that are being put into a
Speaker 2: police surveillance state. It truly is stunning to see what
Speaker 2: they're doing. And it is the ultimate consolidation of power,
Speaker 2: isn't it sure.
Speaker 6: And so much of it is being done in the
Speaker 6: name of what is often called conservatism or call law
Speaker 6: and order. Obviously, we believe that our rights should be protected.
Speaker 6: That's the purpose of a government, but we don't want
Speaker 6: to take it to the point where we have a
Speaker 6: police state, because a government big enough to do everything
Speaker 6: that you'd wanted to do protection everything else, is big
Speaker 6: enough to take away from you everything you have. Desponding
Speaker 6: fathers imagine was that law enforcement, that that would belong
Speaker 6: to the states and to local communities. And the idea,
Speaker 6: of course, if you have any pen and police departments,
Speaker 6: that those departments would be beholden to the communities that
Speaker 6: they protect and serve. But then you take those powers
Speaker 6: and you transfer them into the hands of the national
Speaker 6: government and create a national police state. What happens is
Speaker 6: then those police are beholden to the central government in Washington,
Speaker 6: and that's not what we want. But the thing is,
Speaker 6: conspirators for global control, they don't come right out and say, well,
Speaker 6: gae we want to enslave you. We want to have
Speaker 6: complete and absolute power. So those they say things like, well,
Speaker 6: we need these powers in order to fight illegal immigration,
Speaker 6: or we need these powers in order to fight crime,
Speaker 6: or in order to fight terrorism. And certainly we need
Speaker 6: to fight terrorism, we need to fight the criminal element
Speaker 6: and whatnot, but let's not use that as a pretext
Speaker 6: in order to consolidate all power into the hands of
Speaker 6: the government. Because of that happens, then what happens is
Speaker 6: the government becomes a criminal government.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 6: We've seen it happen so many times. We've seen it
Speaker 6: happen with Nazi Germany. We've seen it happen with the
Speaker 6: Soviet Union and whatnot. And you know, a good lesson
Speaker 6: to remember in history is that the German people were
Speaker 6: beguiled into voting themselves into slavery. They voted the Hitler's
Speaker 6: National Socialist Power Party, which is all called also what
Speaker 6: is called the Nazi Party, into power, and they were
Speaker 6: told that Hitler would make Germany great again and prosperous
Speaker 6: and whatnot. But of course he deliberate tyranny instead.
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of people get very angry with
Speaker 2: me because I say, yeah, it's uh, I agree with
Speaker 2: the immigration stuff, but let's make sure that we're going
Speaker 2: to have a police force that is going to follow
Speaker 2: the law, that's not going to be a law under
Speaker 2: themselves with absolute immunity, I said, because then they become
Speaker 2: the most dangerous threat to us. And that's really the case.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people say, well, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we want to have we have this particular problem that
Speaker 2: we perceive, and of course, always the solution that is
Speaker 2: given to you. Is since they've got one giant hammer
Speaker 2: coming out of Washington, they perceive everything as a nail,
Speaker 2: and so we want to give carte blanc to the
Speaker 2: federal police force to do whatever they wish. I said,
Speaker 2: that is the most dangerous thing we could have, and
Speaker 2: when we look at it, we can put on the
Speaker 2: list in terms of excuses for getting rid of any
Speaker 2: protections against excessive use of force. We could put on there.
Speaker 2: What we saw during COVID, the public health issue, and
Speaker 2: I think we talk about conspiracies. I guess it's just
Speaker 2: a coincidence that all of the governments around the world
Speaker 2: are basically doing the same nonsensical stuff at the same time, right,
Speaker 2: exactly the same things, you know.
Speaker 6: But COVID, I would say, or specifically the COVID policies,
Speaker 6: those were a wake up call to a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they've.
Speaker 6: Killed a lot of Americans because who could have imagined
Speaker 6: until then, Well, I guess a few of us could,
Speaker 6: but very few people could have imagined until the COVID policies,
Speaker 6: the lockdowns, the mandates were put in place that those
Speaker 6: things could happen in the United States of America. I mean,
Speaker 6: who could have imagined before two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not even me. And I was very cynical about that.
Speaker 2: I was absolutely just shaking my heads, like why isn't
Speaker 2: anybody having a problem with this. I mean, they've moved
Speaker 2: the overton windows so far that they defenestrated the Bill
Speaker 2: of Rights. You know.
Speaker 6: The good news is, though, I think that those policies
Speaker 6: were put in place again today, I think a lot
Speaker 6: more people would not go along with it, don't you.
Speaker 2: I hope not. But you know, there hasn't been any
Speaker 2: penalty paid by these people. And usually if they admit
Speaker 2: that they did something wrong, they said, well, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: we'll do it quicker next time, and we'll do it
Speaker 2: more thoroughly. That seems to be the comeback that we
Speaker 2: see from these commissions of Inquiry that are in different countries.
Speaker 2: They come back, if they'll admit any wrongdoing, they'll say, yeah,
Speaker 2: the problem is we didn't do enough, and we didn't
Speaker 2: do it early enough, and we'll do better next time.
Speaker 2: That's not the message that I get from all that
Speaker 2: at all. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, it had a testable loaning to see how far
Speaker 6: they could go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, and they moved that over to
Speaker 2: the window didn't they truly is amazing. Well, let's talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about your book and about the history
Speaker 2: of the John Birth Society, because I think it's a
Speaker 2: very fascinating history. I first heard of the John Birch
Speaker 2: Society as it was being attacked as this crank a
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist group out there by William F. Buckley. I
Speaker 2: eventually figured out where William F. Bucket was coming from
Speaker 2: and eventually figured out what the John Bird Society was about.
Speaker 2: But that was when I was in college and I
Speaker 2: heard the other viewpoint. Talk a little bit about the
Speaker 2: founding of the John Birch Society and the resistance that
Speaker 2: you've had from mainstream media in a lot of different quarters,
Speaker 2: including conservative quarters.
Speaker 6: Okay, called the John Ver Society was founded in nineteen
Speaker 6: fifty eight, and of course, at the time the country
Speaker 6: was viewed as very anti munists. You know, we believe
Speaker 6: in the Constitution and whatnot. But in nineteen fifty eight,
Speaker 6: the founder of the General Birch Society, Robert Welch, who
Speaker 6: was a businessman, but he was warning that communism really
Speaker 6: is a problem, not just externally but also internally, and
Speaker 6: so he founded this organization to stop the communism, and
Speaker 6: specifically the way they call it a communist conspiracy. Of course,
Speaker 6: as time went on, and it didn't take a lot
Speaker 6: of time, but he connected the dots too to show
Speaker 6: that the people working for more government leading to world
Speaker 6: government in this country and elsewhere included not just communists,
Speaker 6: but included the powerful elitists who wanted to basically bring
Speaker 6: about the same thing. And so he blew the whistle.
Speaker 6: He said that we would have more and more government
Speaker 6: in this country, leading the total government. He said the
Speaker 6: in that Nations was a world government trap. He said
Speaker 6: he would have inflation because we would destroy the currency
Speaker 6: over time by printing more and more on back dollars
Speaker 6: in order to finance the growing government deficits. And basically
Speaker 6: what he was saying back in nineteen fifty eight is
Speaker 6: exactly what we've seen happen over the years. But back
Speaker 6: at that time, people's scoff because they said it was ridiculous.
Speaker 6: You know, for example, what the ADAD Nations was portrayed
Speaker 6: at the time is mankind's less best hope for peace.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine calling it a communist inspired organization?
Speaker 2: And I remember the way it was true.
Speaker 6: We were crazy to imagine a communist threat. Well, today,
Speaker 6: look at all the young people who probably both well, yeah,
Speaker 6: I believe in communism. I believe in socialism. But Robert
Speaker 6: Welch blew the whistle, and he realized that in order
Speaker 6: to solve the problem, in order to expose this conspiracy,
Speaker 6: because it is a solution exposed in the conspiracy, you
Speaker 6: could not just just do it through elections. You cannot
Speaker 6: just do it by running a good candidate, because ultimately
Speaker 6: the kind of government we have would be determined by
Speaker 6: the understanding of the American people themselves, and the American
Speaker 6: people run informed, they would make good decisions in the
Speaker 6: voting booth. And then politicians who would not abide by
Speaker 6: the people, insisting that they abide by their oath of office,
Speaker 6: those politicians would get voted out of office by an
Speaker 6: informed electorate. And of course others would see where the
Speaker 6: political wins are going and that they would vote better
Speaker 6: when they got elected. So that was the solution that
Speaker 6: Rubel Welch advocated. And he realized too that no one
Speaker 6: person could save our freedoms. It had been done, would
Speaker 6: have to be done by an informed electorate. It had
Speaker 6: to be done by the American people themselves, and so
Speaker 6: he created chapters throughout the country where people in their
Speaker 6: own congressional districts, in their own communities could bring about
Speaker 6: this great awakening. And I honestly believe because I've been
Speaker 6: a member of the John versus I since nineteen sixty eight,
Speaker 6: since I was a teenager. It came on the staff
Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy seven. But I believe that because of
Speaker 6: what the John Birch Society has done, specifically the members
Speaker 6: of the John Birch Society and their allies over so
Speaker 6: many years, that we would not have our freedoms today
Speaker 6: if it was not.
Speaker 2: For what we've done.
Speaker 6: So I feel like, my great we know back, you know,
Speaker 6: the forces that want to bring about world government and
Speaker 6: Catel trainanism. We have bought time so that today, in
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six, we can still use our freedoms to
Speaker 6: save our freedoms. And that's why my book, by the way,
Speaker 6: is called the Vanguard of the American Cause, because we've
Speaker 6: really been in the forefront of this fight.
Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, I remember the support your Local Sheriff thing,
Speaker 2: which became a meme and actually James Gardner with that title,
Speaker 2: and so that was and I kind of scratched my head.
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, what are they talking about. Eventually
Speaker 2: figured out the dangers of a centralized federal police force,
Speaker 2: militarized police force, which is what I think they're in
Speaker 2: the process of trying to create right now. And I
Speaker 2: think now more than ever, we need to revive that
Speaker 2: support your local sheriff thing and to have locally elected people.
Speaker 2: It's not perfect. We get bad sheriffs, many different cases
Speaker 2: like that, but again that is you've got a better
Speaker 2: chance of having a say so at the local election
Speaker 2: than you do at a federal election where we have
Speaker 2: basically no control whatsoever. It was interesting the back and
Speaker 2: forth I think of George Soros and Elon musk As.
Speaker 2: Elon must said, well, you know, George Soros has got
Speaker 2: this right when he gets these district attorneys in or
Speaker 2: the state attorneys general, that he gives them a good
Speaker 2: bit of money and they can actually swamp their opponent
Speaker 2: in terms of spending, and he goes he gets a
Speaker 2: lot more bang for his buck, and of course the
Speaker 2: voters do as well. The more local the election, the
Speaker 2: more bang for the buck you get in terms of
Speaker 2: either your vote or your contribution that you make. It
Speaker 2: gets very, very deluded and distant when you're talking about Washington,
Speaker 2: and that's one of the reasons why we need to
Speaker 2: stop looking to Washington for every single solution. To me,
Speaker 2: that is one of the biggest things that's changed in
Speaker 2: my lifetime. We used to joke about, well, don't make
Speaker 2: a federal case out of it. Everything is made a
Speaker 2: federal case out of today, including with conservatives, And we
Speaker 2: used to say, you know, it's a free country, isn't it.
Speaker 2: We don't say that anymore, though, we don't. Nobody sees
Speaker 2: it as a free country because we have the federal
Speaker 2: government that is micromanaging every single aspect of our life,
Speaker 2: and that is the real danger.
Speaker 6: I think I agree completely, And of course a lot
Speaker 6: of people really don't understand what freedom is. You know,
Speaker 6: freedom is the ability to pull yourself up by the bootstraps.
Speaker 6: It's the ability where government is limited and it's all
Speaker 6: your way so that you can fulfill your dreams. So
Speaker 6: if you want to buy a home, you have the
Speaker 6: ability to do that because you have the ability to
Speaker 6: keep the fruits of your own labor.
Speaker 2: You had the.
Speaker 6: Ability to innovate, you have the ability to build a
Speaker 6: small business, which is increasingly being stifled today because of
Speaker 6: all the government regulations. Because of that place at the
Speaker 6: end of people we think of as capitalists are super capitalists,
Speaker 6: but they actually use the fact that you have all
Speaker 6: these regulations and they use the power of government and
Speaker 6: government favoritism to favor them at the expense of the
Speaker 6: little guy, including the little business.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: So we have to go back to that. We have
Speaker 6: to get back to that wonderful system that caused America
Speaker 6: to become the greatest example of liberty in the history
Speaker 6: of the world.
Speaker 2: That's right, And you know when we look at it,
Speaker 2: it's even at the local level. We see that a
Speaker 2: lot of the regulations for a save and something as
Speaker 2: simple as a restaurant, right, because it's one of the
Speaker 2: few things that's left open to entrepreneurship in a sense.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's getting more and more difficult with the
Speaker 2: supply chain disruptions that we had in twenty twenty and
Speaker 2: the ones that are coming along now as well as
Speaker 2: inflation and with other regulations, that's even becoming most impossible.
Speaker 2: But that was one of the few avenues that were
Speaker 2: left to people, and you would see that a lot
Speaker 2: of the regulations that were coming down the line for
Speaker 2: restaurants opening up were things that were not essential, that
Speaker 2: had absolutely nothing to do with health issues. They were
Speaker 2: there to stifle competition, and so that truly is what
Speaker 2: we see happening everywhere. And again going back to a
Speaker 2: lot of these regulations of artificial intelligence and even digital
Speaker 2: ID and the way that they are applying these things.
Speaker 2: We see the government coming after three D printer manufacturers
Speaker 2: putting onerous regulations on them to essentially censor or spy
Speaker 2: on their users as a manufacturer, and if you don't
Speaker 2: do it, they're going to shut you down. We see
Speaker 2: the same thing happening now even with software, with operating systems,
Speaker 2: things like Unix that they're going to be coming after
Speaker 2: because they don't you know, anything that is open source
Speaker 2: or that is a new startup is going to be
Speaker 2: shut down by these onerous regulations. They're going to make
Speaker 2: it so difficult to get arted that people aren't going
Speaker 2: to start and a lot of small businesses have even
Speaker 2: signaled that they're going to have to shut down if
Speaker 2: these Internet regulations and these regulations that are designed to
Speaker 2: outlaw all privacy run through. Let's talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about where this real conspiracy of communism is coming from.
Speaker 2: I had somebody at an event that I was speaking
Speaker 2: at came up to me afterwards and he said, you know,
Speaker 2: they've they've taken over every one of the institutions. How
Speaker 2: the world did this ever happen? I said, well, you know,
Speaker 2: there was a plan. It was called marching through the
Speaker 2: institutions Gramcy and others. And they have executed that plan
Speaker 2: pretty well, haven't they.
Speaker 6: You know, I think that was from Gramsey, wasn't it
Speaker 6: used that exact phrase, marched through the institutions. And of
Speaker 6: course he was a communist strategist, and the point that
Speaker 6: he made is that, at least for an advanced country
Speaker 6: such as the United States, that the old fashioned frontal
Speaker 6: assault is not going to work because people will say, well, gee,
Speaker 6: I don't want to become slave. You know, I believe
Speaker 6: in freedom, I believe in the great heritage that we have.
Speaker 6: And so how do they do it? They do it
Speaker 6: step by step. If you look at this country as
Speaker 6: to how it came about, well.
Speaker 2: I'll start it.
Speaker 6: I would say almost after we got the constitution, that
Speaker 6: patient gradualism. But let's pick a date where I think
Speaker 6: it became very obvious, and that was in nineteen thirteen,
Speaker 6: because in nineteen thirteen, three huge things happened in this
Speaker 6: country that were hammer blows to the republic.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 6: One of them was the establishment of a heavy progressive
Speaker 6: income tax, and that actually was a plank right out
Speaker 6: of the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx in eighteen forty eight.
Speaker 6: So you could say that we moved in the communist
Speaker 6: direction at least beginning in nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 2: So don't get angry at the IRS on April fifteenth,
Speaker 2: on April, sorry, don't get mad at the IRS as
Speaker 2: much as you get mad as mad at the communists
Speaker 2: who basically brought that to it the day Anti Communist Day,
Speaker 2: April fifteenth.
Speaker 6: Yep, yeah, it is coming up up pretty fast. But
Speaker 6: we got the progressive income tax in nineteen thirteen. Again,
Speaker 6: that was one of ten steps and the Communist Manifesto
Speaker 6: that Carl Mark cited for communizing an advanced country in particular.
Speaker 6: Another step was the creation of a central bank. We
Speaker 6: got that in nineteen thirteen in the form of the
Speaker 6: Federal Reserve System. That is a central bank and controls
Speaker 6: money and credit in order to you know, monetize federal
Speaker 6: debt and you know a lot of people think that
Speaker 6: when taxes are cut officially says is Trump cutting taxes, Well, ja,
Speaker 6: that means the government burden has been reduced. That's only
Speaker 6: true if the government also cuts its spinning. Because taxes
Speaker 6: and allows spinning to go up, you have a larger
Speaker 6: and larger deficit. That's how we got these trian dellar
Speaker 6: deficits that we've been experiencing recently. And when the government
Speaker 6: monetizes that, or excuse me, the Federal Reserve monetizes that.
Speaker 6: What the Federal Reserve is doing is they're pumping new
Speaker 6: money into the economy, and so all those new dollars,
Speaker 6: it's just like a monopoly game. All those new dollars
Speaker 6: the values the dollars that are already in the economy,
Speaker 6: and that causes prices to go up. So you could
Speaker 6: call that an inflation tax. But anyway, the Central Bank
Speaker 6: out of the communist manifesto, we got that in nineteen
Speaker 6: thirteen as well. So you could say in nineteen thirteen,
Speaker 6: out of these ten steps or ten planks, we got
Speaker 6: two of them. You could say is at that point
Speaker 6: the United States of America was already twenty percent communize.
Speaker 6: And the third thing I want to mention that happened
Speaker 6: in nineteen thirteen was the direct election of senators, and
Speaker 6: a lot of people think, well, gee, isn't that a
Speaker 6: good thing, because we don't we want the people to
Speaker 6: elect our senators. But what was overlooked was the fact that, well, gee,
Speaker 6: we're already doing that form of the people were electing
Speaker 6: to the House of Representatives. And the whole concept of
Speaker 6: the funding filos that having two houses composing Congress, both
Speaker 6: the House Representatives and the Senate, was that a bill
Speaker 6: cannot become law unless it was passed by both the
Speaker 6: House representative representatives representing the people and the Senate representing
Speaker 6: the states. Right now, the states do not have senators
Speaker 6: representing them in Congress, and so it makes it much
Speaker 6: easier to your serve power from the states and transfer
Speaker 6: that power into the hands of the federal government.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, people don't understand that division of power
Speaker 2: that was there. That's what that representative wasn't taking away
Speaker 2: your representation, as you point out, And that's why people
Speaker 2: don't understand the tenth Amendment, because that was really about
Speaker 2: the power that's been delegated specifically by the people or
Speaker 2: by the states, and so they broke that you're talking
Speaker 2: about the reducing taxes without reducing spending. That was one
Speaker 2: of my issues with the Tea Party. I thought they
Speaker 2: really didn't understand what they were talking about because they
Speaker 2: didn't have a priority. You know, they said the Tea
Speaker 2: Party was taxed enough already. But I'd say, if you
Speaker 2: don't cut the spending, you should say we're indebted enough already. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: In fact, I've ever talked about that side of it.
Speaker 6: So the obviously taxes should be cut, but over the
Speaker 6: long termament, it's not going to help unless we lower
Speaker 6: taxes through less government. And of course they needed that
Speaker 6: is to get government back to the constitution.
Speaker 2: That's right. The way I look at the John Birch
Speaker 2: Society is very important the educational aspect of this, because
Speaker 2: another one of the planks of the Communist Party, I
Speaker 2: think was the compulsory government funded education, and that's really
Speaker 2: what has gotten us there to a large degree, and
Speaker 2: I think that it is very important that people understand
Speaker 2: what has really happened to get the perspective that the
Speaker 2: John Birch Society is out there as account to the
Speaker 2: government schools telling their one sided story of this.
Speaker 6: Right and of course, I would say that the government
Speaker 6: schools were designed in the beginning to become what they
Speaker 6: have become today. And because a lot of people would say, well, gee,
Speaker 6: we need to reform the government schools, Well, the only
Speaker 6: way to reform it is to get rid of the
Speaker 6: government schools and to go back to private education. Yes,
Speaker 6: and that was the education that we had in this
Speaker 6: country prior to the advent of the government school system
Speaker 6: in the nineteenth century.
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, when you look at it, pretty much
Speaker 2: everybody was homeschooled and maybe they'd have a little bit
Speaker 2: of private schooling. I have talked over and over again
Speaker 2: about the Wright brothers versus Langley and how he was
Speaker 2: the establishment guy and he had all the credentials and
Speaker 2: he was out of the Smithsonian. Jada had a couple
Speaker 2: of homeschool bicycle mechanics who beat him to the punch, right,
Speaker 2: And so it was a really good illustration, something that
Speaker 2: always stuck with me after I saw it, And I
Speaker 2: think that's the key. You know, there was a tremendous
Speaker 2: amount of a very hypercentage of literacy at the time
Speaker 2: that America has created. And of course you have a
Speaker 2: book like Thomas Paine's common sense. Everybody is reading it
Speaker 2: and they're thinking about the political theories behind it and discussing.
Speaker 6: That too, and so for them it was common sense.
Speaker 6: But how many people would understand that book today?
Speaker 2: That's right? Yeah, maybe we should have a two undred
Speaker 2: and fiftieth anniversary of that.
Speaker 6: Anyway, the solution of the government school problem is first
Speaker 6: of all, to get the federal garment out of education,
Speaker 6: because the federal Garment does not have any constitutional authority
Speaker 6: to be involved. But even on the state level, my recommendation,
Speaker 6: and the recommendation of the John Birch Society, even at
Speaker 6: that level, would be for the states to get our
Speaker 6: education as well and allow it to be handled privately.
Speaker 2: I agree absolutely. The churches too, Yes.
Speaker 6: You know, isn't it wonderful to you know, have a
Speaker 6: church school for example.
Speaker 2: M hm hm. And we have seen that, you know,
Speaker 2: private charity and the actions of churches and that type
Speaker 2: of thing. That was something that was so ingrained in
Speaker 2: American society, as Alexis to people talked about it, and
Speaker 2: yet that is basically withered and died. It isn't to
Speaker 2: say that it can't be restored, but there has to
Speaker 2: be a desire to do that as it is. Right now,
Speaker 2: everybody just figures, well, I gave it the irs, and
Speaker 2: I don't really have to I don't have to worry
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 6: That's a really good point. They've already given through Uncle Sam.
Speaker 6: They gave Uncle Sam the money and Uncle Sam's taking
Speaker 6: care of it. But one problem with that Uncle Sam
Speaker 6: taking care of it is what we saw happened very
Speaker 6: recently in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you say that's right.
Speaker 6: Because you know who's who's mining the store, so to speak,
Speaker 6: and so look at all the fraud and abuse. That's right,
Speaker 6: And that's an argument I think for the fact that
Speaker 6: you really cannot solve the problem of the social welfare
Speaker 6: system by making it efficient. I know, Mussolini, you know,
Speaker 6: the fascist Mussolini during World War Two, promised that he
Speaker 6: would make Italian socialism efficient to make run into trains
Speaker 6: running time. And it doesn't work that way. So you know,
Speaker 6: obviously we're going to have all this waste as long
Speaker 6: as the garment's involved. So you got to get the
Speaker 6: garment out of it, in particular the federal garment, because
Speaker 6: the federal government is not going to have as much
Speaker 6: of an understanding of What is really needed on the
Speaker 6: local level is the people on the local level. It's
Speaker 6: that simple. So a state government providing welfare will be
Speaker 6: better than a national garment. A local community providing welfare
Speaker 6: would be better than the state government. But the ideal
Speaker 6: course will get back to a system where friends and
Speaker 6: neighbors were taking care of themselves.
Speaker 2: That's right, absolutely, yeah. Once you get those long lines,
Speaker 2: that is very easy to long lines of control. It's
Speaker 2: very easy to subvert that, as we saw with Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: That is one of the practical aspects of it. But
Speaker 2: the other aspect of it, I guess it has been lost.
Speaker 2: And I think part of the moral degradation of our
Speaker 2: society is that people. You know, so much of the
Speaker 2: charity was running through the churches, that it was based
Speaker 2: on religion and people. Once you practice that, you start
Speaker 2: to realize that it is better to give than to receive,
Speaker 2: you know, and there is a pleasure in helping other
Speaker 2: people that we completely miss out on. That's one of
Speaker 2: the worst aspects of the welfare state, I think, is
Speaker 2: breaking that connection. And that's one of the things that
Speaker 2: we see happening right now, especially with COVID. It seems
Speaker 2: to be the primary focus of the technocracy is to
Speaker 2: break that human human contact. Government does that a great deal,
Speaker 2: but the technology is focusing on that even more and
Speaker 2: is splitting us off from that. So we are disconnected. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're disconnected, we're atomized. We're isolated as individuals, and that's
Speaker 2: a very dangerous thing and it shuts off so many
Speaker 2: wonderful things from all of us, doesn't it. Let's talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about how we get back from this.
Speaker 2: When you have the John Birch Society, do they meet
Speaker 2: and local meetings on a regular basis? Okay, So tell
Speaker 2: a little bit about that. Okay, tell so bit about
Speaker 2: that and how that's organized.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I would encourage people to go
Speaker 6: to JBS dot org JBS for the John Birch Society
Speaker 6: and find out more about it. But again, the whole
Speaker 6: idea is that we can't rely on a national mailing house.
Speaker 6: We can't rely on a particular politician to save our country.
Speaker 6: We've got to wake the town and tell the people
Speaker 6: and get them involved. And that happens better. It happens
Speaker 6: a lot better when you get synergy going. So when
Speaker 6: you have people actually meeting together and working together, and
Speaker 6: people comparing no, so to speak, you can get a
Speaker 6: lot more done than the people are working in a vacuum.
Speaker 6: And of course another part of the two is you
Speaker 6: can focus on certain projects. For example, a project of
Speaker 6: the John Birch Society going back today, one basically running
Speaker 6: right up to the present, has been to get us
Speaker 6: out of the United Nations. Yes, recognizing that that was
Speaker 6: intended and still is intended, I believe to be the
Speaker 6: seat of an emergent, emerging new world order.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 6: Yeah, people get together. They can do things like putting
Speaker 6: up a billboard in their community. They can do things
Speaker 6: like distributing literature house to house and whatnot, and to
Speaker 6: compare notes, and you know it helps create the synergy.
Speaker 2: Well, I agree, yes, And you know, when we look
Speaker 2: at it again, the solutions are local, and so you
Speaker 2: need to make those connections locally. And when you talk
Speaker 2: about the UN, everybody's looking at all these attacks on
Speaker 2: the family and the attacks on children in terms of
Speaker 2: the transgender issues and things like that. That all flows
Speaker 2: from the UN, from the UN's Convention on the Rights
Speaker 2: of the Child, and the only country that hasn't bought
Speaker 2: into that formally is the United States. And I say formally,
Speaker 2: because from a practical standpoint, our state and local and
Speaker 2: federal government, as well as a judiciary, have all bought
Speaker 2: into the premises of the UN Convention on the Rights
Speaker 2: of the Child. If you say that a child has rights,
Speaker 2: that is in direct competition to the idea of parental rights.
Speaker 2: And that is a device, a scheme, a fiction that's
Speaker 2: created by the UN, propagated by the UN in order
Speaker 2: to break up families in order to separate the sound.
Speaker 6: But the whole idea on the part of the conspirators
Speaker 6: for global control, and where as that concludes the people
Speaker 6: who operate the United Nations is that they see themselves
Speaker 6: of the family. They see the government as the family right.
Speaker 6: They see the family the real family that actually, under
Speaker 6: God's plan is the fundamental unit of civilization. They see
Speaker 6: that as the competing loyalty to them. They want total
Speaker 6: loyalty to be devoted to the state.
Speaker 2: And that is a very hallmark of communism, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Of course, as Hillary is that takes a village aspect
Speaker 2: of that, and so it really is important for us
Speaker 2: organize at the local level. And the New American is
Speaker 2: the publication that you are editor in chief of and
Speaker 2: that is the publication of the John Birch Society that
Speaker 2: gives you an overview of what is happening nationally and internationally.
Speaker 2: You're going to get the local information, and that's the
Speaker 2: kitender's the things that I can't really cover on a
Speaker 2: regular basis. That's why you need to have something like
Speaker 2: the John Birch Society, because that's going to give you
Speaker 2: a handle on what's happening in your local area. There's
Speaker 2: so many different local offices that nobody can really report
Speaker 2: on that. I mean, we can cover something bad that's
Speaker 2: happening at the state level from time to time, but
Speaker 2: what is happening right there in your community. A good
Speaker 2: example of this are the flock cameras that are springing
Speaker 2: up everywhere, and people don't really understand what that is.
Speaker 2: They understand how these things are flocking together, and they're
Speaker 2: a massive informant network once people find out about it.
Speaker 2: We've had some communities that have said get those things
Speaker 2: out of here, but you have to have people informed
Speaker 2: at the local level, and so it's very important to
Speaker 2: have some kind of an organization like that, and the
Speaker 2: John Vers Society is there, has been there for quite
Speaker 2: some time. It's always great talking to people from the
Speaker 2: John Birch Society. I've interviewed Alex Newman on education issues
Speaker 2: and climate change issues many many times, and it's always
Speaker 2: great having people. Thank you for joining us, Gary and
Speaker 2: your book.
Speaker 6: To be able to David and I believe this is
Speaker 6: my first time in your program.
Speaker 2: Yes it is. And let's talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: your book as well. The title is Vanguard of the
Speaker 2: Americanist cause they close look at the John Birch Society
Speaker 2: and where's the best place for people to get there? Yeah?
Speaker 2: There you go, good? And where can people get that?
Speaker 2: Where's the best place you.
Speaker 6: Get You can go to JBS dot org and there's
Speaker 6: a place there. We can go to our book division
Speaker 6: and you'll you'll find it there.
Speaker 2: That's great. Thank you so much, Gary Benoit, thank you
Speaker 2: so much, the editor in chief of the New American
Speaker 2: American Dot. Thank you the common man. They created common
Speaker 2: Core and dumbed down our children. They created common Past
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Speaker 2: sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future. They
Speaker 2: see the common man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary, but each
Speaker 2: of us has worth and dignity, created in the image
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