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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 3>Are get off our show, idiots.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids are crying to turn off your cultures are

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<v Speaker 3>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me? Now? Here's nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 4>As much as I would like to believe that everybody

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<v Speaker 4>that listens to this show listens to the whole three hours,

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<v Speaker 4>but I know that's not true, especially when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to like the live version of the show, podcast is different.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe there are some people out there that listen every

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<v Speaker 4>second of an entire three hour show. Maybe there's more

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<v Speaker 4>of you than I realized. But what I'm getting at

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<v Speaker 4>is I want to start today here, on a Tuesday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, welcome in everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Coffee and Company, fuel by Thornton's here on Sports

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<v Speaker 4>Talk seven ninety And rarely would I do this, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to start where we left off yesterday, the

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<v Speaker 4>very end of the show. As the clock was winding

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<v Speaker 4>down and we put the finishing touches On Monday show,

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<v Speaker 4>I had about I don't know, two minutes left whenever

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<v Speaker 4>I was just scrolling through Twitter to try to see

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<v Speaker 4>if there was something maybe that I'd missed that I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to make sure and discuss, which really is a

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<v Speaker 4>waste considering, you know, you don't have much time to

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<v Speaker 4>get into anything at that point, that late in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>But I saw some folks who work in the I

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<v Speaker 4>guess the Carolinas as far as one of the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Might have been one of the TV guys that works

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<v Speaker 4>for one of the stations, I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 4>was Raleigh, Durham, Greensboro, whatever, And they were talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the ACC Coach of the Year race, and really they

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<v Speaker 4>weren't referencing the race. They were just stating that there

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<v Speaker 4>really shouldn't be a race. Essentially, there's really no here

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<v Speaker 4>we go. This is the guy's name. His name is

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Lee, Chris C H R I S L E A.

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<v Speaker 4>And then and by the way, that is his Twitter handle,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you throw TV at the end of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So he works for w R A L. So this

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<v Speaker 4>is somebody that you know apparently has. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 4>works for a news station, he covers h he's a

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<v Speaker 4>sports guy, so I would assume that, you know, he

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<v Speaker 4>covers ACC hoops for his employer, and maybe he has

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<v Speaker 4>a vote when it comes to Coach of the Year.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure in the ACC but I just mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>because it's gonna bother me, like I shouldn't care, but

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<v Speaker 4>like it really will bother me usually when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to like awards, I'm you know, it's whatever, Like, obviously

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted Lamar Jackson to win the MVP. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like he had a good enough season. Clearly it was

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<v Speaker 4>his best season, to be honest with you when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to to statistics. But obviously he's raised the bar

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<v Speaker 4>really high to where people are bored with Lamar being

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<v Speaker 4>Lamar and now he needs to, you know, be even better.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, like you'd have told me two months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>if I.

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<v Speaker 4>Would have gotten worked up if Pat Kelsey doesn't win

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<v Speaker 4>ACC Coach of the Year, I probably would have said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, probably not. You know, I hope he wins it,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, this award is inconsistent really every Coach

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<v Speaker 4>of the Year award out there at least that I

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<v Speaker 4>know of. It's never based off the same thing. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>it goes to a guy who is the best coach,

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<v Speaker 4>meaning he coaches the best team, like he's the coach

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<v Speaker 4>of the team who's the best in the league or

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<v Speaker 4>the best in the country. And then sometimes it goes

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<v Speaker 4>to a guy who really didn't accomplish anything substantial, but

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<v Speaker 4>expectations were low and they overachieved. So because it's just

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<v Speaker 4>been kind of whatever, it's the one award that like,

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<v Speaker 4>even if I do have somebody that I really want

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<v Speaker 4>to win, it just because of how, you know, inconsistently

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<v Speaker 4>it's given out as far as the criteria, like it's

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<v Speaker 4>just you know whatever, and it's been that way since

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<v Speaker 4>the beginning of time. There should be a Coach of

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<v Speaker 4>the Year, which just by avaul goes to the player

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, to the coach who's coaching the best team,

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<v Speaker 4>and then there should be I don't know if you'd

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<v Speaker 4>call it overachiever, because that that that in a way

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<v Speaker 4>that's it's not really a backhanded compliment, is it. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, like, oh, if you overachieve, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 4>there's a slight level of like you you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>aren't good, But man, you had a hell of a

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 4>Like overachieving is actually something that you should be proud of,

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<v Speaker 4>But there's there's just some a slight negative feel to it.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyways, here we are two games left in the

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<v Speaker 4>regular season. Louisville basketball is in the top fifteen of

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<v Speaker 4>both poles, safely in the tournament, likely going to finish

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<v Speaker 4>as this in second place in the ACC.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I got to tell you, if if.

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<v Speaker 4>Pat Kelsey doesn't win ACC Coach of the Year, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>there's nothing I'm gonna do about it, Like what what

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<v Speaker 4>can I do? Call the ACC headquarters and make it complaint.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if it's voted on by media members, then

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, there's really nobody to complain to.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you said yesterday you were gonna steal the award.

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<v Speaker 5>You're gonna rip it right from John Shire's hands, and

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<v Speaker 5>you're gonna personally deliver it to Pat Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be that'd be something.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know if they actually, like do you

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<v Speaker 4>think he's given the award? Because I've never I've never

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<v Speaker 4>seen a coach like you know, obviously coaches have trophy

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<v Speaker 4>cases right, Like they they have honors, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what's on the resume of a coach as far as

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<v Speaker 4>the credentials and the honors, the accolades they've received. But like,

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<v Speaker 4>does the ACC actually give him a physical award for this?

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I don't undert because if they do, then

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<v Speaker 4>like maybe I should steal it. But then again, you know, whistle,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd probably get caught not you know, I'm not I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I do a lot for Pat Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if i'd risk, you know, establishing a

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<v Speaker 4>criminal record for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>In my life. One needs to be done, needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be done.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, like maybe maybe this is the time where

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<v Speaker 4>I just you know, really and justice has served really

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<v Speaker 4>forget about my fear of, you know, going to jail.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a comfortable fear of the criminal justice system.

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<v Speaker 4>and documentaries, which keeps me comfortably afraid of doing anything

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<v Speaker 4>to put myself behind bars. But as you said, what's

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<v Speaker 4>got to be done might need to be done. So

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<v Speaker 4>I hate even coming off this way because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>believe that anybody in the ACC.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like out to get Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe that, you know, I've always kind of

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<v Speaker 4>just it's just how I'm wired. It's not you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just, you know, everybody's different. Even when Louisville was

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<v Speaker 4>obviously getting a lot of coverage for the bad scandals

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<v Speaker 4>that were going on, there were some people that made

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<v Speaker 4>it seem as if like they're just out to create

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<v Speaker 4>negative news about Louisville, and like, I, you know, why

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<v Speaker 4>would they do that. I mean, what benefit would they

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<v Speaker 4>have from doing that. Louisville actually put themselves in headlines

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, is good for business for those who

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<v Speaker 4>cover you know, news because of the kind of things

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<v Speaker 4>that went on.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, I don't disclaimer.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that anybody anti Louisville and they're like

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<v Speaker 4>out to get us and there's some kind of conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't believe that. But in the ACC, Louisville

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<v Speaker 4>is not a OG. They're not one of the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>original founding members. And we all know that when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to the ACC, it is run by the Carolinas,

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<v Speaker 4>the Carolinas, the Dukes, the NC States, the Wake Forests,

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<v Speaker 4>even the Clemsons when it comes to football specifically, So

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<v Speaker 4>like they've just always seemed to get preferential treatment. And like,

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<v Speaker 4>if it's put it this way, if it's fifty to

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of feel like somebody who plays for one

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<v Speaker 4>of those schools I just mentioned is likely gonna get

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<v Speaker 4>it over, you know, somebody from Louisville or even somebody

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<v Speaker 4>from like Pittsburgh, because we're not one of the originals,

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<v Speaker 4>and there are and this is something that hasn't been

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<v Speaker 4>not not to nerd out too much on media stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>but when you go to cover an ACC event like

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<v Speaker 4>the ACC football or basketball media days or the ACC Tournament,

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<v Speaker 4>which I've done, all the majority of the people there

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<v Speaker 4>are from the Carolinas. And there are so many different

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<v Speaker 4>little markets that have a real, you know, dedicated team

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<v Speaker 4>of covering sports. So what I'm getting at is when

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<v Speaker 4>you look at the battle get when you think about

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<v Speaker 4>who gets a ballot to put in like preseason ACC

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<v Speaker 4>you know, all league honors, that kind of stuff, I

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<v Speaker 4>would imagine because there's so many, like I would imagine,

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<v Speaker 4>the majority of people that are there that get one

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<v Speaker 4>of those are probably from that Carolina area. And look,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they're all homers. Hell, maybe they live there,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're from a different part of the country. That's

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<v Speaker 4>just where they ended up getting their first job as

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<v Speaker 4>a sports anchor.

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<v Speaker 2>Or whatever it may be, or even a radio host.

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<v Speaker 4>So again I'm trying my best that I make it

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<v Speaker 4>sound like, you know, they're just out to screw Louisville over.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, I just feel like with John shy or

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<v Speaker 4>really having his best season and it's not even close

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<v Speaker 4>since he got the job they do. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think he's had I mean that Duke hasn't had

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<v Speaker 4>a bad year under Shire. This is his third year, correct,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it is. Yeah, So as a head coach,

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<v Speaker 4>he is in his third season. He went twenty seven

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<v Speaker 4>and nine in his first two seasons, both of them.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, he had a very similar, very similar second

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<v Speaker 4>season as he did a debut season twenty seven and

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<v Speaker 4>nine and then twenty seven and nine. He went fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>and six in his first year in league play, fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>and five last year. Well, this year they're twenty seven

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<v Speaker 4>and three, likely going to finish twenty nine in three

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<v Speaker 4>and in the regular season that is, and they're probably

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<v Speaker 4>going to finish nineteen and one in the In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry they played last night. So they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>finish twenty eight and three in the regular season nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>and one, and there's no way to I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 4>done a good job. I think Shire's done a really

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<v Speaker 4>good job of not only coaching this team, but also

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<v Speaker 4>you know building. I mean last night, or maybe it

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<v Speaker 4>was might have been on Was it last night Duke

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't think of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't remember it was his last night if it was

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<v Speaker 4>the weekend either way, But Steve Forbes was talking about

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<v Speaker 4>Shier and how he really did a good job of

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<v Speaker 4>piecing together in the portal and and that's true. Like

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<v Speaker 4>that everybody in the country wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>They went out and.

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<v Speaker 4>Got good players that could fit the exact role they

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<v Speaker 2>Just gives you defense. Like there's different. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 5>Yep, that's that's the first time I've heard it all day. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you hear it right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, No, I've like I said it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if they've just gotten further. I'm gonna in that bathroom

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<v Speaker 4>just say, hey, do you know like how because I

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do the show like that. Yeah. No, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's tough.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, imagine what was a Friday Friday it was,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was actually in your studio, and it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was louder gosh, so that was it was louder

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<v Speaker 5>on al Wait, no, it was that that right there.

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<v Speaker 5>What we're here now, that's ten times less, ten times

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<v Speaker 5>less faint than it was on It was like that Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you hearing that in your studio or are

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<v Speaker 2>you hearing it through mine?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm hearing in mine both. Yeah, I'm not hearing it

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<v Speaker 5>through yours, probably because it's going at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>So but no, I hear it through my studio. Someone

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, even even that is like gonna be hard

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<v Speaker 4>to like not get distracted by like I don't even

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<v Speaker 5>Well, like I said, that's the first time I heard

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<v Speaker 5>it yesterday, because remember or that I heard it today,

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<v Speaker 5>because remember yesterday I texted you it was going on

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<v Speaker 5>all day, and you said you were You're already on

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<v Speaker 5>for you yesterday. I would have sent out out the

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<v Speaker 5>bat signal earlier if I would have heard any of

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<v Speaker 5>this today. That's it's the first time I heard them

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<v Speaker 5>working on that today.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, I guess we'll power through.

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<v Speaker 4>I genuinely don't remember what I was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>About job wake four seconds.

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<v Speaker 4>So John Shire, I can't say he's not done a

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<v Speaker 4>good job. But there has to be like a level

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<v Speaker 4>of there has to be a level of like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>is the best player that's played college basketball in like

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<v Speaker 4>ten twenty years. I mean, maybe that's an exaggeration, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you don't have to look too hard to

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<v Speaker 4>is better than Zion.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he's better than Anthony Davis. I mean, he's great.

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<v Speaker 4>So you shouldn't punish John Shire for coaching or doing

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<v Speaker 4>a really good job coaching. And also you know he

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<v Speaker 4>has really good player. That also speaks to the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that you know he's winning. I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's like they hear you in. So so

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<v Speaker 2>here's my in again.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just I'm talking out loud here and just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I'm thinking. When I'm thinking, I'm thinking out

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<v Speaker 4>loud asking questions that I know you don't know the

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<v Speaker 4>answer to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I'd love to give the answer and act

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<v Speaker 2>like I know. But did anybody tell them that we

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<v Speaker 2>do live radio here?

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<v Speaker 5>That's a great question.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so, because people in our you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like the brass here, like they know this is going on, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I would think.

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<v Speaker 5>So it would like it was a huge talking point Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>But was it just because employees were annoyed or was

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<v Speaker 4>it because, like the boss was like, because there are.

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<v Speaker 2>People that you know are in charge here? Yeah, do

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<v Speaker 2>they know this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't want to because here's.

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<v Speaker 4>What I could do, Like I I'm close to sending

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<v Speaker 4>the text message just like hey, what do you think

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<v Speaker 4>we should do about this? But I also don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to be the pushy guy because they know that it's

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<v Speaker 4>going on and there's nothing we can do, Like if

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<v Speaker 4>there's been like a an email or some kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a statement made to all of us that like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>this is because only reason only the only reason I

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<v Speaker 4>don't get those The only reason I know this is

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<v Speaker 4>happening is because I'm hearing it now. And also you

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<v Speaker 4>told me last week, right, and then you mentioned like

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<v Speaker 4>it's become a real annoying thing within the building, within

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<v Speaker 4>our within our within our you know, our crew here.

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<v Speaker 4>But like, is it just we're riding it out or what?

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<v Speaker 4>Because usually if something like this happens, I think so

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<v Speaker 4>our direct boss, he's usually pretty good of like he'll

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<v Speaker 4>tell me do the show at home, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean? Sure, But like nobody's communicated to me that

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<v Speaker 4>this was going to be an issue, and they have

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<v Speaker 4>they have stopped, at least for the time being.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but and I know that even I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if he said it on air, but when I ran

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<v Speaker 5>into him in the hallway last Friday when it was

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<v Speaker 5>amplified way more than it is now, r Terry Miners

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<v Speaker 5>had something to say about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, apparently Terry talked about it on his show that

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<v Speaker 4>like a good thing I was at home because there's

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<v Speaker 4>no way I could have done a show, which again

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<v Speaker 4>like that just worked out. I didn't even know they

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<v Speaker 4>were doing that. I just had to do the show

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<v Speaker 4>from home that day because that stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 5>And I wonder how how loud it is over there

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<v Speaker 5>because his his studios all the way across.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know this is a building.

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<v Speaker 4>Like for those who don't know what we're talking about here,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you probably heard it. The we are live

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<v Speaker 4>here at four Street Live, in our in our offices

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<v Speaker 4>and our studios here that we are.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where we're located. I think most people know that.

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<v Speaker 2>If not, now you do.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they're they're doing some work on the bathrooms in

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<v Speaker 4>the actual like facility that is for Street Live, not

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<v Speaker 4>in our office, but this studio that I'm in backs

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<v Speaker 4>up to that like that. I'm pretty sure to my

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<v Speaker 4>right if that wall didn't exist, i'd be it would

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<v Speaker 4>I would be in the bathroom like I would. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they could put a door here and it would go

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<v Speaker 4>to that bathroom, but not our bathroom in the office,

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<v Speaker 4>but the bathroom like when you are walking out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the parking garage at four Street Live.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, maybe that was because again it started

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<v Speaker 4>pretty light, then it picked up, and now it's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just gonna, you know, I'm gonna try to

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<v Speaker 2>power through.

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<v Speaker 4>But when that happens, I mean, like I've got headphones on,

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<v Speaker 4>I can hear it. You are further away from it

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<v Speaker 4>than I am. You can clearly hear it. It sounds

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<v Speaker 4>right next to me. So anyways, what I was saying

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<v Speaker 4>is that you don't want to punish John Shire and

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<v Speaker 4>say he can't he can't qualify for the ACC Coach

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<v Speaker 4>of the Year because I mean he was supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>be good and its team was good. But you also

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<v Speaker 4>still have to factor it in in some way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>do people really think like when Cooper because again this

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<v Speaker 4>is this is what's always irritated me. It should be

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<v Speaker 4>a mixture and a balance of both, right like Pat

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<v Speaker 4>Kelsey did he over achieve based off of expectation and circumstance, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 4>but he also has a good team, like Louisville is

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<v Speaker 4>in the top fifteen, right like him getting it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be oh well, you know what, they're not really any good.

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<v Speaker 4>But man, they were supposed to be lousy and they

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<v Speaker 4>were not as bad as everybody thought.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's give this guy coach of the Year.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if Louisville was a bubble team, it would still

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<v Speaker 4>be looked at as a really good first year for

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<v Speaker 4>Pat Kelsey, especially considering the injuries that happened earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 4>But like, we're not there.

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville is.

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<v Speaker 4>Right behind Duke, one game behind Duke in the ACC standings,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just think.

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<v Speaker 2>The coach like coach of the Year.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not even here to tell you that Pat

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<v Speaker 4>Kelsey is a better coach than John Shy. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if he is or not, but Coach of the

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<v Speaker 4>Year to me should be somebody that you know is

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<v Speaker 4>coaching a good team. We'll check the box for both there.

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<v Speaker 4>And also you feel like what they're doing and how

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<v Speaker 4>it all came together, the you know, the real factor

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<v Speaker 4>in the success is due to coaching more so than

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<v Speaker 4>anything else. And that's where I feel like it's Pat

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<v Speaker 4>Kelcey and it's not even close. Again, I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 4>about punishing Shire and saying, well he can't, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm not even saying that anybody would be able

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<v Speaker 4>to have the twenty twenty eight and three regular season

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<v Speaker 4>if they coach this same team, because I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's true. In fact, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>believe it. I think Sharre's pretty good coach. But like

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<v Speaker 4>Pat Kelsey built the team, built the team from scratch,

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<v Speaker 4>dealt with two major injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>Early on in the season, and I just think, like

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<v Speaker 2>when you.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at why Louisville is able to be in the

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<v Speaker 4>position therein again, top fifteen got a chance to finish

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<v Speaker 4>with just six regular season losses if they win tomorrow

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<v Speaker 4>and on Saturday, safely in the tournament, I mean top

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five, also in the net and the kN palm

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<v Speaker 4>and all that stuff. And I'm not saying that no

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<v Speaker 4>other coach on the planet with this team could do

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<v Speaker 4>what he's doing. I don't know how many could. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think that many would, but who knows. We'll never know.

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<v Speaker 4>But you can't tell me that Louisville in the situation

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<v Speaker 4>they're in, which again, by the way, they're a good team.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not just you know, the smartest dumb guy in

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<v Speaker 4>the room, you know what I mean, Like, they're actually

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<v Speaker 4>they're actually good. I don't know how good. They're not

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<v Speaker 4>as good as Duke, but they're good. And I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like his coaching him, specifically Patrick Kelsey, is the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>factor in why all of this is off to such

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<v Speaker 4>a great start.

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<v Speaker 2>In year one.

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<v Speaker 4>John Shier certainly a factor in what his team's doing,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know what the biggest factor is. He's got

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<v Speaker 4>elite talent. He's got three lottery picks, and he's all

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<v Speaker 4>so got. You know, a guy that some people think

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<v Speaker 4>is the best player to play college basketball and like

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<v Speaker 4>a long, long, long time. So I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>get Ben out of shape about it because I can't

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<v Speaker 4>control it. And maybe he does win it. He probably mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he's clearly got a good chance. But just to see

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<v Speaker 4>this guy who I talked about at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 4>the show and I never really told you why, but

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<v Speaker 4>his name is Chris Ly. He's a sportscaster for one

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<v Speaker 4>of the TV stations down there in the Carolina area,

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<v Speaker 4>and he tweeted this yesterday. If we're being honest, John

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<v Speaker 4>Shire's AC Coach of the Year. ACC Coach of the

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<v Speaker 4>Year because it's Duke. Because it's Duke, folks may feel

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<v Speaker 4>neat Wait a second, this doesn't make sense. If we're

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<v Speaker 4>being honest, John Shire is acc Coach of the Year

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<v Speaker 4>because it's Duke folks.

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<v Speaker 2>He needs some better Grandma.

436
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<v Speaker 4>Because it's duke folks may feel the need to vote

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<v Speaker 4>for Pat Kelsey, but Shires who deserves it most. And honestly,

438
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<v Speaker 4>he's getting He's getting run like he's getting I mean,

439
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<v Speaker 4>he's getting the responses that you know most cooking them.

440
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<v Speaker 4>They're cooking him. I mean, people are saying terrible take.

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<v Speaker 4>People are saying shir ed did what was expected? Pat

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<v Speaker 4>Kelsey's shattered expectation. Sure, you know Louisville was picked to

443
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<v Speaker 4>finish ninth in this league, by the way, And again,

444
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<v Speaker 4>it shouldn't just be only based off overachieving, but that

445
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<v Speaker 4>also is gonna be an element because when you're overachieving,

446
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<v Speaker 4>what does that mean as a basketball team or really

447
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<v Speaker 4>just any team in general. If you're overachieving, there could

448
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<v Speaker 4>be there can be a variety of factors in why

449
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<v Speaker 4>you're overachieving, but more often than not, your coach is

450
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<v Speaker 4>doing more with than you know. His his results are

451
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<v Speaker 4>better than what you know. And I hate even doing

452
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<v Speaker 4>that because now I'm acting like Louisville don't have any

453
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<v Speaker 4>good players and I think they do. But I just

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<v Speaker 4>as much as I try not to get been out

455
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<v Speaker 4>of shape about these kind of things because one like

456
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<v Speaker 4>it's not that important, but I feel like this is

457
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<v Speaker 4>like all the accolades honors that a player or coach

458
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<v Speaker 4>has ever been up for when it comes to Louisville

459
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<v Speaker 4>that we fought talked about, you know, like ACC Player

460
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<v Speaker 4>of the Year, ACC Coach of the Year, Lamar Jackson

461
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<v Speaker 4>when it was the Heisman. Like there's all kinds of different,

462
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<v Speaker 4>you know, accolades and honors and recognition that Louisville players

463
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<v Speaker 4>and coaches can get. And certainly when you know, we

464
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<v Speaker 4>talk about ul right here a lot because you know

465
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<v Speaker 4>that's what we do, and you want to see want

466
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<v Speaker 4>to see those guys get accolades because.

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<v Speaker 2>You know we're fans, at least I am.

468
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<v Speaker 4>But of all of them, this is the one to

469
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<v Speaker 4>me where like it if he doesn't win, it'll it'll

470
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<v Speaker 4>be a travesty because I just don't, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what, like in any other situation, he's Coach of

472
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<v Speaker 4>the Year, they would have already given him the award,

473
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<v Speaker 4>they'd have given it to him a week ago. But

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<v Speaker 4>I just think because it's the ACC and Dukie gets

475
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<v Speaker 4>the Dukie treatment that, like, I'm not going to be

476
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<v Speaker 4>shocked if we get that press release that sure enough

477
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<v Speaker 4>they gave it to Shier. Now what I don't know,

478
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<v Speaker 4>and I need to look into this, and it's easy

479
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<v Speaker 4>to find out, like the one that the ACC names,

480
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<v Speaker 4>and I think they do two for like I think

481
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<v Speaker 4>all league there's media and then there's there's like coaches.

482
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<v Speaker 4>I think, but this guy, this guy acts like because

483
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<v Speaker 4>it's Duke, people won't vote for him. No, Duke gets

484
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<v Speaker 4>all the preferential treatment in the ACC. And look, honestly,

485
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<v Speaker 4>they're Duke Like they've they've got an elite basketball program,

486
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<v Speaker 4>and clearly right now they're they're carrying this league at

487
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<v Speaker 4>the top.

488
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<v Speaker 2>So I just, I just I just don't know what

489
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<v Speaker 2>else Pat Kelsey can do.

490
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<v Speaker 4>For it to be more obvious that like he's been

491
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<v Speaker 4>the best coach in the ACC. And I mean, look,

492
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<v Speaker 4>he honestly has a good I think he's just has

493
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<v Speaker 4>as good of a chance of winning National Coach of

494
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<v Speaker 4>the Year. And by the way, he's one of the

495
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<v Speaker 4>finalists for that award too. But real quick, before we

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<v Speaker 4>get to our first break, this is from Evan Evan

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<v Speaker 4>Maya Evan m i Ya on Twitter if you guys

498
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<v Speaker 4>want to follow him, a really good college basketball follow

499
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<v Speaker 4>But he put together a chart that shows which team

500
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<v Speaker 4>rely the most on returning players versus new players, and

501
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<v Speaker 4>that could be transfers or freshmen. So the graph it

502
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<v Speaker 4>shows the contribution in minutes from returners and from newcomers.

503
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<v Speaker 4>And if you go, I'm gonna retweet it here, so

504
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:20.359
<v Speaker 4>if you guys follow me on Twitter, you'll see it.

505
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<v Speaker 4>But what pack Kelsey's doing like this is just another

506
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<v Speaker 4>one of the many things you can go out there

507
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<v Speaker 4>and grab that will really put in perspective what he's

508
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<v Speaker 4>been able to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, most of the teams.

510
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<v Speaker 4>That are in the top of college basketball have at

511
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<v Speaker 4>least some reliable returning players. Louisville has an entirely new team,

512
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<v Speaker 4>has two guys that on paper were supposed to be

513
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<v Speaker 4>big factors that didn't play, and here they are in

514
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<v Speaker 4>a position to wear again. And look, by the way,

515
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<v Speaker 4>for those you know, we've already had two people mentioned.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll depend on no like these. The voting for this

517
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<v Speaker 4>doesn't include the postseason. In fact, you vote before the

518
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<v Speaker 4>postseason starts. Therefore, like it won't matter what has done

519
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<v Speaker 4>in the a SEC tournament because similar are saying, well,

520
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<v Speaker 4>if he beats Shyer in the ACC tournament, then he'll

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<v Speaker 4>get it. I mean, I don't pretty sure that the

522
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<v Speaker 4>award will already have been voted on before that happens,

523
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<v Speaker 4>as it should, because again, this is a regular season award.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

525
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<v Speaker 4>I think we're okay. I think the banging has stopped.

526
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<v Speaker 4>But I was getting a little worried there for a while.

527
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they heard you. Yeah, they must have.

528
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<v Speaker 2>They're probably listening to us right now.

529
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, in all honesty, they probably can hear me.

530
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<v Speaker 4>I mean because if they're where I think they are,

531
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<v Speaker 4>and is as much as we can, Like I could

532
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<v Speaker 4>hear moving around in there, like even when they're not

533
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<v Speaker 4>banging a hammer, like I could hear they're doing something,

534
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<v Speaker 4>So maybe they can hear me. If so, thank you

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<v Speaker 4>for stopping at least for the time being. And if

536
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<v Speaker 4>you can hear us, then you can hear me now

537
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<v Speaker 4>sending into commercial breaks, So whack away with your hammer

538
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<v Speaker 4>and you know, oh wave hammer. Yeah maybe in like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, five six minutes, you can you can stop

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<v Speaker 4>again until we go to another commercial break. If you

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<v Speaker 4>really would cater to me, I would really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's coffee and company, feel abou Thorn tradi here on

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<v Speaker 4>All right, a few people are giving me a hard

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<v Speaker 4>time for the Uh, I'm just talking out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>I meant to say, thinking out loud.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys have never slipped up and set something incorrectly, made,

550
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<v Speaker 4>made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're all so perfect. Huh, stick around. I'm sure I'll

553
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<v Speaker 4>say some a lot more. What worse than that? Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you guys know what this show is like.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I mean there are times I say something that's

556
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<v Speaker 4>even worse than that and don't even realize it, and then,

557
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<v Speaker 4>like you know, I'll check the text line and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the correction police are always out in full force to

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<v Speaker 4>let me know. So, yeah, I meant to say, I

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<v Speaker 4>was just you know, I was I was thinking out loud,

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<v Speaker 4>and I said talking out loud, which again, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>only way to really talk is to you know, talk

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<v Speaker 4>out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>But I got distracted.

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<v Speaker 4>We got people like banging hammers, you know, ten feet

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<v Speaker 4>to my right in a bathroom, and you know, thankfully

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<v Speaker 4>to the to the Coach of the Year conversation. This

581
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<v Speaker 4>is a really good point that somebody brought up on

582
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<v Speaker 4>the text line that even though the award is really

583
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<v Speaker 4>kind of inconsistent and it's you know, sometimes it just

584
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<v Speaker 4>ends if there's a really good if there's an overachiever

585
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<v Speaker 4>that also you know, had a team that wasn't just

586
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<v Speaker 4>better than expected but actually turned out to be solid,

587
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:56.920
<v Speaker 4>they'll they'll get it, especially if there's not an elite

588
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<v Speaker 4>team that's just like on another planet as far as

589
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<v Speaker 4>how you know how good they are.

590
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<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's never been consistent.

591
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<v Speaker 4>But somebody on the text line made a point that

592
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<v Speaker 4>more often than not it is actually gone to somebody

593
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<v Speaker 4>that it looks like they're coaching was a bigger factor

594
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<v Speaker 4>than anything else, meaning more so the overachievers side than

595
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<v Speaker 4>the guy who's just coaching a really good team that

596
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<v Speaker 4>was supposed to be really good. Nobody's saying John Shire

597
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<v Speaker 4>didn't do a great job this year.

598
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<v Speaker 3>He did.

599
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<v Speaker 2>I think John Shire is a good coach.

600
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<v Speaker 4>But this award has often been given and really not

601
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<v Speaker 4>just this one, but any The point this person has

602
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<v Speaker 4>been on the text line is so Rick Patino never

603
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<v Speaker 4>won a CC Coach of the.

604
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<v Speaker 2>Year, never won Biggiest Coach of the Year.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, doesn't that kind of tell you that it

606
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<v Speaker 4>usually doesn't like it's insane, And to be honest, I

607
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<v Speaker 4>guess the Coach of the Year award is a It

608
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<v Speaker 4>is a pretty I mean, it's an honor. I'm assuming

609
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<v Speaker 4>every coach who's ever won a Coach of the Year

610
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<v Speaker 4>award at any level feels honored that they won it.

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<v Speaker 4>But when we talk about the guys who are you know,

612
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<v Speaker 4>really really successful as college basketball coaches, we rarely ever

613
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<v Speaker 4>reference if they were coach of the Year and anything.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's because we're not programmed to look there, because

615
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<v Speaker 4>you know why, we just know that those awards typically

616
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<v Speaker 4>go to guys who are good coaches. But again, you

617
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<v Speaker 4>feel like they're coaching was a bigger factor in them

618
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<v Speaker 4>having whatever level of success they had. So I just,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I treat this show sometimes like my own

620
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<v Speaker 4>therapy session where I just I just talk and you know, get.

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<v Speaker 2>It all out there.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to go down a side street because you're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about like the actual physical award, and I just

624
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<v Speaker 5>got to thinking during the break, well, I mean they

625
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<v Speaker 5>might not give like an actual like a statue or

626
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<v Speaker 5>something like the Heisman, but these I mean, when like

627
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<v Speaker 5>the coach receeves a Coach of the Year, they got

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<v Speaker 5>to receive like a plaque.

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<v Speaker 4>Or something, right, I don't know, no clue interesting, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean they so what they do is they end up

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a press release as far as everybody's notified

632
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<v Speaker 4>that these things are like that, that it's done. But

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<v Speaker 4>as far as like a physical award, I don't. I'll

634
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<v Speaker 4>put it this way.

635
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<v Speaker 2>I I know a lot of you.

636
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.160
<v Speaker 4>Are probably thinking, well, surely if they're gonna get if

637
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 4>it's an award, then like there's something that you're given

638
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 4>other than just reading it on the internet. But it

639
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 4>really wouldn't shock me if there's no physical thing that

640
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 4>like you hang up on your wall like, it wouldn't

641
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.279
<v Speaker 4>shock me at all, to be honest with you. But anyways,

642
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 4>what I was saying is I just I'm I'm gonna

643
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:27.279
<v Speaker 4>have it. I'm gonna be I'm gonna have a tough

644
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 4>time if Pat Kelsey doesn't win it, because I think

645
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 4>he's is deserving as anybody in the ACC has ever

646
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.279
<v Speaker 4>been for that award. But by the way, I did

647
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 4>find out who, in fact does name the ACC.

648
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Coach of the Year.

649
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 4>All league coaches get a vote, and you are not

650
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 4>allowed to vote for yourself, at least you weren't. What

651
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm referencing here is from a couple of years ago,

652
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:54.519
<v Speaker 4>so therefore maybe they've changed it. But no, yes, all

653
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 4>all league coaches as well as sixty different media members,

654
00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 4>so there's a lot of people to get a vote,

655
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 4>and I think it's gonna be a no brainer for

656
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 4>Pat Kelsey, but we shall see. All I'm saying is

657
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 4>that if he doesn't get it, one he'll be robbed.

658
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.160
<v Speaker 4>But two, I'm just gonna say that I'm not gonna

659
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 4>be that surprised because I just think the ACC when

660
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 4>they can again, I don't even think it's close.

661
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 2>So maybe with that said, it will go to Kelsey.

662
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.640
<v Speaker 4>But usually whenever there's when it's a coin flip, it's

663
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.759
<v Speaker 4>a toss up as far as who the ACC can honor,

664
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 4>rather it be the league deciding it or people in

665
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.559
<v Speaker 4>the ACC voting it. Just if it's close, I'm just

666
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:32.680
<v Speaker 4>gonna give the benefit of the doubt to one of

667
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 4>the Carolina schools, including Duke. Somebody of the text line

668
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.559
<v Speaker 4>says the biggest travesty in the ACC Awards was Carli

669
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 4>Jones not winning ACC Player of the Year.

670
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Totally agree.

671
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.519
<v Speaker 4>And I can't, I mean, because I don't remember who

672
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 4>it was that won it that year. It was a

673
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 4>guy who played for Georgia Tech, and I don't even

674
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 4>think he was Georgia Tech's best player, like Alvarado if

675
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.880
<v Speaker 4>you remember, was their best player, that little point guard

676
00:30:57.920 --> 00:30:59.720
<v Speaker 4>who was I mean by the way they then they

677
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:01.759
<v Speaker 4>win the a SEC tournament. That yeah, that's such a

678
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you those two seasons. We Austin and I

679
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 4>were actually just talking about it during the break the

680
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty season where COVID happened in March and it

681
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.680
<v Speaker 4>all ended, and then also the next year where we

682
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:15.799
<v Speaker 4>had basketball season but there were so many games that

683
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 4>didn't take place because of test results and we played

684
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.480
<v Speaker 4>with fifteen hundred fans there, Like, those two years are

685
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 4>such a blur. So the the ACC Player of the

686
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 4>Year that year was Moses right. Do you ever remember

687
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 4>that name, Austin Moses Right?

688
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean he played for Georgia Tech. I remember it

689
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>was a big guy. He's a fine player. Oh yeah yeah.

690
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 4>But like Carla Jones should have won that award, sure,

691
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:39.960
<v Speaker 4>because that was a year where if you remember, and

692
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:41.839
<v Speaker 4>you probably don't because again it was a weird year.

693
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 4>But like that year in the ACC, like Duke wasn't good.

694
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't even think they made the tournament and Caroline,

695
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't even know who they're like. I think it

696
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 4>came down to there was there was one other player

697
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 4>in the ACC that I believe was what was what

698
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.079
<v Speaker 4>I thought was gonna be the biggest threat who I

699
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 4>thought was gonna be the biggest threat for car League

700
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:07.720
<v Speaker 4>and carl League didn't win it, but it didn't go

701
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 4>to who I thought it went to. It went to

702
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 4>Moses Right, who again was a good player. But it

703
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.400
<v Speaker 4>just kind of felt like, huh, all right, so in

704
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 4>two this is gonna drive me crazy. In two thousand

705
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 4>and one, let's see, let's see who did I think

706
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:21.720
<v Speaker 4>it was?

707
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh? It was it was the Let's see.

708
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Justin Champenny at Pitt actually finished ahead of car

709
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 4>League and Moses Right won it. Matthew Hurt finished right

710
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 4>behind Duke. So yeah, Justin Shampanne is is it easy

711
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 4>name to forget? You probably don't even know who the

712
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:39.400
<v Speaker 4>hell that is?

713
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 2>But he was.

714
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:41.960
<v Speaker 4>He played for Pitt for a long time, scored a

715
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 4>ton of points. So Carlea came in third and again

716
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:50.559
<v Speaker 4>like that to me just said that, you know, Louisville,

717
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.279
<v Speaker 4>I guess is just screwed.

718
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I was wrong when I said that.

719
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 4>I don't believe anybody's you know, biased towards or you know,

720
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.400
<v Speaker 4>never mind, I don't even I don't even want to

721
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 4>put that out there as a joke because like that's

722
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.400
<v Speaker 4>something I'm I try my best not to go there

723
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.319
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to this show, but like I, nothing

724
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 4>is such a nothing is a bigger turnoff for me,

725
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.119
<v Speaker 4>if you will, when it comes to like Louisville fans,

726
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 4>and not everybody does it, but just just like everybody's

727
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 4>out to get us, we're victims, and like you know,

728
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 4>it just annoys me. But anyways, we'll move on. If

729
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 4>you want to join us on the show, you can

730
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.000
<v Speaker 4>five way two five seven to one. Seventy nine hundred

731
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 4>is the number. We'll get to the phone lines coming

732
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:27.799
<v Speaker 4>up here in just a little while. But we're in

733
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 4>the final week of the regular season here in college basketball.

734
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 4>In fact, we already have some conference tournaments going on.

735
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 4>I resisted last night. I was gonna fire off some

736
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 4>bets because again we've got March Madness already taking place

737
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 4>the Atlantic Sun. I think that's the conference tournament that's

738
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 4>already started. Some others are going to be starting soon,

739
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.079
<v Speaker 4>and you know, that's that's exciting. But I know nothing

740
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 4>about these teams. And even when I do go look

741
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 4>at like Sunday, I bet on a few games that

742
00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.160
<v Speaker 4>there were teams I've never watched before. But like I

743
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.759
<v Speaker 4>was familiar somewhat with like are they good for their league?

744
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 4>That kind of thing, and I spent well, I wasted

745
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 4>about fifteen minutes looking into two different matchups, and man,

746
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.800
<v Speaker 4>I felt really good about it and it couldn't have

747
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:14.480
<v Speaker 4>gone worse for me as far as what I bet on.

748
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.920
<v Speaker 4>So like, I'm going to try moving forward to just

749
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 4>bet on teams you know that I'm familiar with.

750
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 2>That mean I'm going to get it right.

751
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 4>But like I feel like now when I'm betting on

752
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Atlantic Sun or the Colonial Athletic Association games, it might

753
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 4>as well be me just you know, putting money in

754
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.079
<v Speaker 4>a slot machine. And I guess technically that's the same

755
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.320
<v Speaker 4>thing when it comes to me betting really at any point,

756
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 4>because it really is all luck, if you know, I'd

757
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 4>like to think that really, And I've said this before

758
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to betting on anything but mostly college

759
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 4>basketball because I love college hoops.

760
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I realize it's all luck, right, like I never knew.

761
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if it was something that you know, I

762
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 4>was really good at, then you know I would I

763
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 4>would be making a lot more money than I'm making,

764
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 4>and I'm not making much of anything. In fact, I'm

765
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:02.000
<v Speaker 4>still up substantially for the season. But you know, now

766
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 4>is where I get a little bit more dangerous when

767
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.679
<v Speaker 4>it comes to uh to betting, because my goal every

768
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.000
<v Speaker 4>year is to bet only in college basketball and then

769
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.039
<v Speaker 4>be able to take out all the money that is

770
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:18.320
<v Speaker 4>in my accounts, whether it be FanDuel or DraftKings, because

771
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:20.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't bet on NBA and I don't bet on baseball,

772
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:21.679
<v Speaker 4>and I don't need to. That would just be wasting

773
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.599
<v Speaker 4>money because I don't watch or care, to be honest

774
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 4>with you. So the last few years, I've been able

775
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 4>to close out the not close out the accounts, but

776
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 4>to empty them out and feel like, hey, I made

777
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 4>this on college hoops this year, right, And so because

778
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.000
<v Speaker 4>of that, like now that we only well, I guess

779
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.079
<v Speaker 4>i'll probab. I probably wait till the conference tournament start,

780
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:42.599
<v Speaker 4>but I start betting a little bit more than I

781
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:45.280
<v Speaker 4>typically would, because hey, why not, right, I've got you know,

782
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 4>might as well try to, you know, put a little

783
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:50.119
<v Speaker 4>bit more on it to potentially get a bigger reward

784
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 4>in return, you know. That way, whenever I, you know,

785
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 4>do call it a you know, whenever I.

786
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Do empty it out, I'll have more to put in

787
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 2>the bank account.

788
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Three years ago was my best year that I'll probably

789
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:04.840
<v Speaker 4>never come close to to, you know, doing again when

790
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:06.719
<v Speaker 4>it comes to just the you know whatn't like I've

791
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:08.559
<v Speaker 4>cleaned up and was able to pay off my mortgage

792
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 4>or anything like that, but it was like it was

793
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.079
<v Speaker 4>an unexpected, like chunk of money that I that you know,

794
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 4>doesn't happen very often for somebody like myself. But tonight,

795
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 4>a lot of games in Kentucky, this is this is

796
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:21.639
<v Speaker 4>a weird game for them. They're twelve and a half

797
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 4>point favorites against LSU. LSU is easily the second worst

798
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 4>team in the ACC or in the SEC, and a

799
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.320
<v Speaker 4>win here for Kentucky doesn't really do much of anything.

800
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 4>But right now they're still looking at like a three seed,

801
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 4>and that doesn't surprise me considering sort of their resume.

802
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 4>We've talked about it, like they're in a really good

803
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 4>spot with their resume. They've got a lot of really

804
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 4>good wins that have value, so they can stack up

805
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 4>these losses like they're doing. But as long as they're

806
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 4>against good teams, they're not gonna be hurt as far

807
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 4>as the seed line. Now, a loss tonight changes maybe

808
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 4>not everything. In fact, it doesn't change everything, but I

809
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.920
<v Speaker 4>mean a loss here at home to LA which probably

810
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 4>won't happen, that would be the kind of loss that

811
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.639
<v Speaker 4>probably takes you off the three line and you're a four,

812
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 4>And really it just comes down to you know, do

813
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 4>you I mean, there's gonna be so many opportunities to

814
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:20.599
<v Speaker 4>get good wins in the SEC tournament, So I don't know,

815
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.079
<v Speaker 4>maybe what I was about to say is not true,

816
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 4>but I feel like this is the kind of game

817
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.239
<v Speaker 4>that could put them is because I don't I mean,

818
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 4>maybe they do beat Missouri, and that would be a

819
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 4>really valuable win to win at Missouri on Saturday, But

820
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 4>right now it's a projected loss. And let's just say

821
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 4>you're you know, you're gonna say you split here and

822
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 4>you beat LSU, lose to Missouri, then you go into

823
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.119
<v Speaker 4>the SEC tournament. Really whereas long you know, you're probably

824
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 4>safely as a three and clearly can improve your seating

825
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 4>if you end up making a run in said tournament

826
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 4>because of all the potential wins you.

827
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Could get that have value.

828
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.559
<v Speaker 4>But a loss here, I think it puts you on

829
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 4>the four and you could end up probably either you know,

830
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:02.000
<v Speaker 4>improving it once you get to Nashville or maybe you know,

831
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 4>if you bow out early, even if it's not to

832
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 4>a bad team, because there aren't many of those in

833
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:09.239
<v Speaker 4>the SEC, it might push you closer between the four

834
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:13.239
<v Speaker 4>and five range, depending on what other teams do. But

835
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.559
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they clearly didn't look good against Auburn, but man,

836
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 4>Auburn was a big factor in that. Auburn's the best

837
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:20.599
<v Speaker 4>team in the country and it's not even close. All right,

838
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:21.880
<v Speaker 4>quick break, We'll come back and wrap up the three

839
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.440
<v Speaker 4>o'clock hour. On the other side, keep this thing rolling along.

840
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:26.440
<v Speaker 4>It's coffee and Company, and we are fueled by Thornton's

841
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<v Speaker 4>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

842
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843
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<v Speaker 4>All right, we were wrapping up the three o'clock hour

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<v Speaker 4>here on a Tuesday afternoon. Thanks for hanging out with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Take us with you wherever you go. Listen live on

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville dot com. So if you have ever used which

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you have, if you've ever used the application,

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<v Speaker 4>the software Skype, you need to be aware that it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's that was the last the last time you used

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<v Speaker 4>it was the last time you'll ever use it because

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<v Speaker 4>Skype is dead. In fact, I think if you have it,

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<v Speaker 4>it'll still function, but you can't, like if you wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to go look forward and download it now, it doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, yeah, I mean, when's the last time you

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<v Speaker 2>used Skype?

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<v Speaker 5>I was probably in high school. Skype was like the

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<v Speaker 5>first like real webcam, like yeah, face to face like

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<v Speaker 5>those before face. Oh, I might have a FaceTime may

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<v Speaker 5>have been a thing too, but that's the the first

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<v Speaker 5>time I remember interacting with somebody and seeing their face

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<v Speaker 5>from like a different location. Was was the Skype was

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<v Speaker 5>a Skype dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Skype was like when I first started, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking. I mean I don't I don't remember when

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<v Speaker 4>Skype sort of became a thing, but I remember it

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<v Speaker 4>was it had no competition, seemingly like when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to when you wanted to just use the internet to

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<v Speaker 4>make calls and do video calls, like Skype to go

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<v Speaker 4>to In fact, when I would do interviews, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>podcast interviews before I had a live radio show, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>was a long time ago. Like Skype was the way

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<v Speaker 4>to do it, and it was it was the only

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<v Speaker 4>way to do it. I don't really know of any

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<v Speaker 4>other platform out there to where you could you could

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<v Speaker 4>do what Skype did. But yeah, Skype is dead. And

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<v Speaker 4>what's crazy is that the death of Skype was clearly

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<v Speaker 4>clearly impacted by the pandemic. But you would think that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, something like that would become more popular whenever

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<v Speaker 4>nobody's leaving the house because we're in quarantine, that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff. But what happened was a competitor came in

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<v Speaker 4>and put Skype in a body bag and took over.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's zoom. So, I mean, I'd never heard of zoom,

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<v Speaker 4>and then all of a sudden, Zoom was the way

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<v Speaker 4>to go was what everybody was doing during the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean manufactured.

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<v Speaker 4>I still use Zoom every now and then when need be,

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<v Speaker 4>But like for most corporations, they use Microsoft Teams. Sure,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think Skype's actually better than Microsoft Teams. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm reading here that let's see, it says Skype is

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<v Speaker 4>gone and zooming is the verb people use now when

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<v Speaker 4>you have to call somebody on video. This is a

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<v Speaker 4>write up here from looks like this came from barstool,

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<v Speaker 4>but it says that truly remarkable stuff from Skype and

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<v Speaker 4>the people at Microsoft who paid eight point five billion

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<v Speaker 4>for Skype in twenty eleven, only to watch it get

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<v Speaker 4>dusted by some newcomer less than a decade later, when

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<v Speaker 4>the entire world needed a program exactly like it. That

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<v Speaker 4>is so true, though, like, again, what are the chances

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<v Speaker 4>that like Skype falls apart? In that scenario, you would

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<v Speaker 4>think that if it was struggling, well, this global pandemic

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<v Speaker 4>might have given this platform life, and in fact it

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<v Speaker 4>did not happen. So yeah, Skype, Skype is no more.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean, I'm not into conspiracies, but it's worth

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<v Speaker 4>mentioning because when it comes to this Skype that you mean,

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<v Speaker 4>this is I don't act like it's like major news

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<v Speaker 4>that everybody's discussing. But we were all using Skype and

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<v Speaker 4>then one day there was a pandemic when COVID took over,

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<v Speaker 4>and then we all started using Zoom, and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people like myself had never heard of Zoom. However,

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<v Speaker 4>the majority owner of Zoom. Their largest shareholders include a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of companies, including one that is named the Vanguard Group.

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<v Speaker 4>Also the Vanguard Group is a pharmaceutical Yeah, Vanguard Group

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<v Speaker 4>owned shares in several pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer.

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<v Speaker 2>So knew you were going to say. Yeah, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>starting to see a third eye.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like that, that's one of those things that

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<v Speaker 4>regardless of what you think about conspiracies and all that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't. I mean, I'm so over everything about COVID,

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<v Speaker 4>and I mean, I'm so glad that five years in

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<v Speaker 4>the past now. But that's a crazy thing. That is

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<v Speaker 4>not a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Next, like Skype, sky Skype was seemingly in a perfect position.

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<v Speaker 4>All of a sudden, there's a new company who you know,

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<v Speaker 4>does the same thing Skype does, and they're backed by

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<v Speaker 4>the people who also you know, are the biggest stakeholders

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<v Speaker 4>and Pfizer.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, that's that's not a coincidence, right, It's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And you know you've worked with me long enough

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<v Speaker 4>to know I'm not big on conspiracies at all. I

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<v Speaker 4>laugh them off usually. But that's that's not a coincidence. No,

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<v Speaker 4>you've tickled me. Now, my friend, stick around. We got

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<v Speaker 4>two more hours left. Who knows where this is going.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get weird. Four o'clock hours next right here on

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