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Speaker 4: Talk seven ninety And rarely would I do this, but
Speaker 4: I'm going to start where we left off yesterday, the
Speaker 4: very end of the show. As the clock was winding
Speaker 4: down and we put the finishing touches On Monday show,
Speaker 4: I had about I don't know, two minutes left whenever
Speaker 4: I was just scrolling through Twitter to try to see
Speaker 4: if there was something maybe that I'd missed that I
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure and discuss, which really is a
Speaker 4: waste considering, you know, you don't have much time to
Speaker 4: get into anything at that point, that late in the game.
Speaker 4: But I saw some folks who work in the I
Speaker 4: guess the Carolinas as far as one of the thing.
Speaker 4: Might have been one of the TV guys that works
Speaker 4: for one of the stations, I don't know if it
Speaker 4: was Raleigh, Durham, Greensboro, whatever, And they were talking about
Speaker 4: the ACC Coach of the Year race, and really they
Speaker 4: weren't referencing the race. They were just stating that there
Speaker 4: really shouldn't be a race. Essentially, there's really no here
Speaker 4: we go. This is the guy's name. His name is
Speaker 4: Chris Lee, Chris C H R I S L E A.
Speaker 4: And then and by the way, that is his Twitter handle,
Speaker 4: and then you throw TV at the end of it.
Speaker 4: So he works for w R A L. So this
Speaker 4: is somebody that you know apparently has. I mean, he
Speaker 4: works for a news station, he covers h he's a
Speaker 4: sports guy, so I would assume that, you know, he
Speaker 4: covers ACC hoops for his employer, and maybe he has
Speaker 4: a vote when it comes to Coach of the Year.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure in the ACC but I just mentioned
Speaker 4: because it's gonna bother me, like I shouldn't care, but
Speaker 4: like it really will bother me usually when it comes
Speaker 4: to like awards, I'm you know, it's whatever, Like, obviously
Speaker 4: I wanted Lamar Jackson to win the MVP. I feel
Speaker 4: like he had a good enough season. Clearly it was
Speaker 4: his best season, to be honest with you when it
Speaker 4: comes to to statistics. But obviously he's raised the bar
Speaker 4: really high to where people are bored with Lamar being
Speaker 4: Lamar and now he needs to, you know, be even better.
Speaker 2: So anyways, like you'd have told me two months ago,
Speaker 2: if I.
Speaker 4: Would have gotten worked up if Pat Kelsey doesn't win
Speaker 4: ACC Coach of the Year, I probably would have said,
Speaker 4: you know, probably not. You know, I hope he wins it,
Speaker 4: but you know, this award is inconsistent really every Coach
Speaker 4: of the Year award out there at least that I
Speaker 4: know of. It's never based off the same thing. Sometimes
Speaker 4: it goes to a guy who is the best coach,
Speaker 4: meaning he coaches the best team, like he's the coach
Speaker 4: of the team who's the best in the league or
Speaker 4: the best in the country. And then sometimes it goes
Speaker 4: to a guy who really didn't accomplish anything substantial, but
Speaker 4: expectations were low and they overachieved. So because it's just
Speaker 4: been kind of whatever, it's the one award that like,
Speaker 4: even if I do have somebody that I really want
Speaker 4: to win, it just because of how, you know, inconsistently
Speaker 4: it's given out as far as the criteria, like it's
Speaker 4: just you know whatever, and it's been that way since
Speaker 4: the beginning of time. There should be a Coach of
Speaker 4: the Year, which just by avaul goes to the player
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, to the coach who's coaching the best team,
Speaker 4: and then there should be I don't know if you'd
Speaker 4: call it overachiever, because that that that in a way
Speaker 4: that's it's not really a backhanded compliment, is it. I
Speaker 4: don't know, like, oh, if you overachieve, you know, there's
Speaker 4: there's a slight level of like you you know, you
Speaker 4: aren't good, But man, you had a hell of a
Speaker 4: night kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Like overachieving is actually something that you should be proud of,
Speaker 4: But there's there's just some a slight negative feel to it.
Speaker 4: But anyways, here we are two games left in the
Speaker 4: regular season. Louisville basketball is in the top fifteen of
Speaker 4: both poles, safely in the tournament, likely going to finish
Speaker 4: as this in second place in the ACC.
Speaker 2: And now I got to tell you, if if.
Speaker 4: Pat Kelsey doesn't win ACC Coach of the Year, I mean,
Speaker 4: there's nothing I'm gonna do about it, Like what what
Speaker 4: can I do? Call the ACC headquarters and make it complaint.
Speaker 4: I mean, if it's voted on by media members, then
Speaker 4: like you know, there's really nobody to complain to.
Speaker 5: No, you said yesterday you were gonna steal the award.
Speaker 5: You're gonna rip it right from John Shire's hands, and
Speaker 5: you're gonna personally deliver it to Pat Kelsey.
Speaker 2: That would be that'd be something.
Speaker 4: But I don't know if they actually, like do you
Speaker 4: think he's given the award? Because I've never I've never
Speaker 4: seen a coach like you know, obviously coaches have trophy
Speaker 4: cases right, Like they they have honors, like you know,
Speaker 4: what's on the resume of a coach as far as
Speaker 4: the credentials and the honors, the accolades they've received. But like,
Speaker 4: does the ACC actually give him a physical award for this?
Speaker 4: That's what I don't undert because if they do, then
Speaker 4: like maybe I should steal it. But then again, you know, whistle,
Speaker 4: I'd probably get caught not you know, I'm not I don't.
Speaker 2: I do a lot for Pat Kelsey.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if i'd risk, you know, establishing a
Speaker 4: criminal record for the first time.
Speaker 2: In my life. One needs to be done, needs to
Speaker 2: be done.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like maybe maybe this is the time where
Speaker 4: I just you know, really and justice has served really
Speaker 4: forget about my fear of, you know, going to jail.
Speaker 4: I have a comfortable fear of the criminal justice system.
Speaker 4: I watch a lot of jail in prison TV shows
Speaker 4: and documentaries, which keeps me comfortably afraid of doing anything
Speaker 4: to put myself behind bars. But as you said, what's
Speaker 4: got to be done might need to be done. So
Speaker 4: I hate even coming off this way because I don't
Speaker 4: believe that anybody in the ACC.
Speaker 2: Is like out to get Louisville.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that, you know, I've always kind of
Speaker 4: just it's just how I'm wired. It's not you know,
Speaker 4: it's just, you know, everybody's different. Even when Louisville was
Speaker 4: obviously getting a lot of coverage for the bad scandals
Speaker 4: that were going on, there were some people that made
Speaker 4: it seem as if like they're just out to create
Speaker 4: negative news about Louisville, and like, I, you know, why
Speaker 4: would they do that. I mean, what benefit would they
Speaker 4: have from doing that. Louisville actually put themselves in headlines
Speaker 4: that you know, is good for business for those who
Speaker 4: cover you know, news because of the kind of things
Speaker 4: that went on.
Speaker 2: So again, I don't disclaimer.
Speaker 4: I don't think that anybody anti Louisville and they're like
Speaker 4: out to get us and there's some kind of conspiracy.
Speaker 4: I just don't believe that. But in the ACC, Louisville
Speaker 4: is not a OG. They're not one of the you know,
Speaker 4: original founding members. And we all know that when it
Speaker 4: comes to the ACC, it is run by the Carolinas,
Speaker 4: the Carolinas, the Dukes, the NC States, the Wake Forests,
Speaker 4: even the Clemsons when it comes to football specifically, So
Speaker 4: like they've just always seemed to get preferential treatment. And like,
Speaker 4: if it's put it this way, if it's fifty to
Speaker 4: fifty neck and neck for like ACC Player of the Week,
Speaker 4: I kind of feel like somebody who plays for one
Speaker 4: of those schools I just mentioned is likely gonna get
Speaker 4: it over, you know, somebody from Louisville or even somebody
Speaker 4: from like Pittsburgh, because we're not one of the originals,
Speaker 4: and there are and this is something that hasn't been
Speaker 4: not not to nerd out too much on media stuff,
Speaker 4: but when you go to cover an ACC event like
Speaker 4: the ACC football or basketball media days or the ACC Tournament,
Speaker 4: which I've done, all the majority of the people there
Speaker 4: are from the Carolinas. And there are so many different
Speaker 4: little markets that have a real, you know, dedicated team
Speaker 4: of covering sports. So what I'm getting at is when
Speaker 4: you look at the battle get when you think about
Speaker 4: who gets a ballot to put in like preseason ACC
Speaker 4: you know, all league honors, that kind of stuff, I
Speaker 4: would imagine because there's so many, like I would imagine,
Speaker 4: the majority of people that are there that get one
Speaker 4: of those are probably from that Carolina area. And look,
Speaker 4: I don't think they're all homers. Hell, maybe they live there,
Speaker 4: but they're from a different part of the country. That's
Speaker 4: just where they ended up getting their first job as
Speaker 4: a sports anchor.
Speaker 2: Or whatever it may be, or even a radio host.
Speaker 4: So again I'm trying my best that I make it
Speaker 4: sound like, you know, they're just out to screw Louisville over.
Speaker 4: But again, I just feel like with John shy or
Speaker 4: really having his best season and it's not even close
Speaker 4: since he got the job they do. I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't think he's had I mean that Duke hasn't had
Speaker 4: a bad year under Shire. This is his third year, correct,
Speaker 4: I think it is. Yeah, So as a head coach,
Speaker 4: he is in his third season. He went twenty seven
Speaker 4: and nine in his first two seasons, both of them.
Speaker 4: In fact, he had a very similar, very similar second
Speaker 4: season as he did a debut season twenty seven and
Speaker 4: nine and then twenty seven and nine. He went fourteen
Speaker 4: and six in his first year in league play, fifteen
Speaker 4: and five last year. Well, this year they're twenty seven
Speaker 4: and three, likely going to finish twenty nine in three
Speaker 4: and in the regular season that is, and they're probably
Speaker 4: going to finish nineteen and one in the In fact,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry they played last night. So they're going to
Speaker 4: finish twenty eight and three in the regular season nineteen
Speaker 4: and one, and there's no way to I mean, he's
Speaker 4: done a good job. I think Shire's done a really
Speaker 4: good job of not only coaching this team, but also
Speaker 4: you know building. I mean last night, or maybe it
Speaker 4: was might have been on Was it last night Duke
Speaker 4: and wake Forest play it was.
Speaker 2: I couldn't think of it.
Speaker 4: I couldn't remember it was his last night if it was
Speaker 4: the weekend either way, But Steve Forbes was talking about
Speaker 4: Shier and how he really did a good job of
Speaker 4: piecing together in the portal and and that's true. Like
Speaker 4: they didn't go out in the portal and get guys
Speaker 4: that everybody in the country wanted.
Speaker 2: They went out and.
Speaker 4: Got good players that could fit the exact role they
Speaker 4: needed and guys that would be comfortable embracing playing. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the point guard at Tulane and now
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a guard at Duke who comes off
Speaker 4: the bench and really.
Speaker 2: Just gives you defense. Like there's different. You know, there's
Speaker 2: oh there it is.
Speaker 5: Yep, that's that's the first time I've heard it all day. Honestly,
Speaker 5: it's very light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hear it right.
Speaker 5: Yes, No, I've like I said it. I don't know
Speaker 5: if they've just gotten further. I'm gonna in that bathroom
Speaker 5: or whatnot, because in the.
Speaker 4: Break, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go out there and
Speaker 4: just say, hey, do you know like how because I
Speaker 4: can't be cause I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't do the show like that. Yeah. No, that's
Speaker 2: that's tough.
Speaker 5: I mean, imagine what was a Friday Friday it was,
Speaker 5: I mean it might as well have sounded.
Speaker 2: Like it was actually in your studio, and it was.
Speaker 5: It was louder gosh, so that was it was louder
Speaker 5: on al Wait, no, it was that that right there.
Speaker 5: What we're here now, that's ten times less, ten times
Speaker 5: less faint than it was on It was like that Friday.
Speaker 2: So are you hearing that in your studio or are
Speaker 2: you hearing it through mine?
Speaker 5: I'm hearing in mine both. Yeah, I'm not hearing it
Speaker 5: through yours, probably because it's going at the same time.
Speaker 5: So but no, I hear it through my studio. Someone
Speaker 5: to answer that door.
Speaker 4: I mean, even even that is like gonna be hard
Speaker 4: to like not get distracted by like I don't even
Speaker 4: know what the hell I was talking about.
Speaker 5: Well, like I said, that's the first time I heard
Speaker 5: it yesterday, because remember or that I heard it today,
Speaker 5: because remember yesterday I texted you it was going on
Speaker 5: all day, and you said you were You're already on
Speaker 5: your way in, So I was trying to look out
Speaker 5: for you yesterday. I would have sent out out the
Speaker 5: bat signal earlier if I would have heard any of
Speaker 5: this today. That's it's the first time I heard them
Speaker 5: working on that today.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess we'll power through.
Speaker 4: I genuinely don't remember what I was saying.
Speaker 2: About job wake four seconds.
Speaker 4: So John Shire, I can't say he's not done a
Speaker 4: good job. But there has to be like a level
Speaker 4: of there has to be a level of like, well,
Speaker 4: you know, he has a guy that some people think
Speaker 4: is the best player that's played college basketball in like
Speaker 4: ten twenty years. I mean, maybe that's an exaggeration, but
Speaker 4: you know, you don't have to look too hard to
Speaker 4: find people that will tell you that that Cooper Flag
Speaker 4: is better than Zion.
Speaker 2: Then he's better than Anthony Davis. I mean, he's great.
Speaker 4: So you shouldn't punish John Shire for coaching or doing
Speaker 4: a really good job coaching. And also you know he
Speaker 4: has really good player. That also speaks to the fact
Speaker 4: that you know he's winning. I can't do this.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like they hear you in. So so
Speaker 2: here's my in again.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm talking out loud here and just you know,
Speaker 4: I guess I'm thinking. When I'm thinking, I'm thinking out
Speaker 4: loud asking questions that I know you don't know the
Speaker 4: answer to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'd love to give the answer and act
Speaker 2: like I know. But did anybody tell them that we
Speaker 2: do live radio here?
Speaker 5: That's a great question.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because people in our you know,
Speaker 4: like the brass here, like they know this is going on, right,
Speaker 4: I would think.
Speaker 5: So it would like it was a huge talking point Friday.
Speaker 4: But was it just because employees were annoyed or was
Speaker 4: it because, like the boss was like, because there are.
Speaker 2: People that you know are in charge here? Yeah, do
Speaker 2: they know this.
Speaker 3: Is going on?
Speaker 2: Because I don't want to because here's.
Speaker 4: What I could do, Like I I'm close to sending
Speaker 4: the text message just like hey, what do you think
Speaker 4: we should do about this? But I also don't want
Speaker 4: to be the pushy guy because they know that it's
Speaker 4: going on and there's nothing we can do, Like if
Speaker 4: there's been like a an email or some kind of
Speaker 4: a statement made to all of us that like, hey,
Speaker 4: this is because only reason only the only reason I
Speaker 4: don't get those The only reason I know this is
Speaker 4: happening is because I'm hearing it now. And also you
Speaker 4: told me last week, right, and then you mentioned like
Speaker 4: it's become a real annoying thing within the building, within
Speaker 4: our within our within our you know, our crew here.
Speaker 4: But like, is it just we're riding it out or what?
Speaker 4: Because usually if something like this happens, I think so
Speaker 4: our direct boss, he's usually pretty good of like he'll
Speaker 4: tell me do the show at home, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Sure, But like nobody's communicated to me that
Speaker 4: this was going to be an issue, and they have
Speaker 4: they have stopped, at least for the time being.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but and I know that even I don't know
Speaker 5: if he said it on air, but when I ran
Speaker 5: into him in the hallway last Friday when it was
Speaker 5: amplified way more than it is now, r Terry Miners
Speaker 5: had something to say about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently Terry talked about it on his show that
Speaker 4: like a good thing I was at home because there's
Speaker 4: no way I could have done a show, which again
Speaker 4: like that just worked out. I didn't even know they
Speaker 4: were doing that. I just had to do the show
Speaker 4: from home that day because that stuff going on.
Speaker 5: And I wonder how how loud it is over there
Speaker 5: because his his studios all the way across.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know this is a building.
Speaker 4: Like for those who don't know what we're talking about here,
Speaker 4: I mean you probably heard it. The we are live
Speaker 4: here at four Street Live, in our in our offices
Speaker 4: and our studios here that we are.
Speaker 2: This is where we're located. I think most people know that.
Speaker 2: If not, now you do.
Speaker 4: Well, they're they're doing some work on the bathrooms in
Speaker 4: the actual like facility that is for Street Live, not
Speaker 4: in our office, but this studio that I'm in backs
Speaker 4: up to that like that. I'm pretty sure to my
Speaker 4: right if that wall didn't exist, i'd be it would
Speaker 4: I would be in the bathroom like I would. You know,
Speaker 4: they could put a door here and it would go
Speaker 4: to that bathroom, but not our bathroom in the office,
Speaker 4: but the bathroom like when you are walking out.
Speaker 2: Of the parking garage at four Street Live.
Speaker 4: So you know, maybe that was because again it started
Speaker 4: pretty light, then it picked up, and now it's gone.
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna, you know, I'm gonna try to
Speaker 2: power through.
Speaker 4: But when that happens, I mean, like I've got headphones on,
Speaker 4: I can hear it. You are further away from it
Speaker 4: than I am. You can clearly hear it. It sounds
Speaker 4: right next to me. So anyways, what I was saying
Speaker 4: is that you don't want to punish John Shire and
Speaker 4: say he can't he can't qualify for the ACC Coach
Speaker 4: of the Year because I mean he was supposed to
Speaker 4: be good and its team was good. But you also
Speaker 4: still have to factor it in in some way. I mean,
Speaker 4: do people really think like when Cooper because again this
Speaker 4: is this is what's always irritated me. It should be
Speaker 4: a mixture and a balance of both, right like Pat
Speaker 4: Kelsey did he over achieve based off of expectation and circumstance, absolutely,
Speaker 4: but he also has a good team, like Louisville is
Speaker 4: in the top fifteen, right like him getting it wouldn't
Speaker 4: be oh well, you know what, they're not really any good.
Speaker 4: But man, they were supposed to be lousy and they
Speaker 4: were not as bad as everybody thought.
Speaker 2: So let's give this guy coach of the Year.
Speaker 4: Like if Louisville was a bubble team, it would still
Speaker 4: be looked at as a really good first year for
Speaker 4: Pat Kelsey, especially considering the injuries that happened earlier this year.
Speaker 4: But like, we're not there.
Speaker 1: Louisville is.
Speaker 4: Right behind Duke, one game behind Duke in the ACC standings,
Speaker 4: and I just think.
Speaker 2: The coach like coach of the Year.
Speaker 4: And I'm not even here to tell you that Pat
Speaker 4: Kelsey is a better coach than John Shy. I don't
Speaker 4: know if he is or not, but Coach of the
Speaker 4: Year to me should be somebody that you know is
Speaker 4: coaching a good team. We'll check the box for both there.
Speaker 4: And also you feel like what they're doing and how
Speaker 4: it all came together, the you know, the real factor
Speaker 4: in the success is due to coaching more so than
Speaker 4: anything else. And that's where I feel like it's Pat
Speaker 4: Kelcey and it's not even close. Again, I'm not talking
Speaker 4: about punishing Shire and saying, well he can't, you know,
Speaker 4: because I'm not even saying that anybody would be able
Speaker 4: to have the twenty twenty eight and three regular season
Speaker 4: if they coach this same team, because I don't, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true. In fact, I don't
Speaker 4: believe it. I think Sharre's pretty good coach. But like
Speaker 4: Pat Kelsey built the team, built the team from scratch,
Speaker 4: dealt with two major injuries.
Speaker 2: Early on in the season, and I just think, like
Speaker 2: when you.
Speaker 4: Look at why Louisville is able to be in the
Speaker 4: position therein again, top fifteen got a chance to finish
Speaker 4: with just six regular season losses if they win tomorrow
Speaker 4: and on Saturday, safely in the tournament, I mean top
Speaker 4: twenty five, also in the net and the kN palm
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. And I'm not saying that no
Speaker 4: other coach on the planet with this team could do
Speaker 4: what he's doing. I don't know how many could. I
Speaker 4: don't think that many would, but who knows. We'll never know.
Speaker 4: But you can't tell me that Louisville in the situation
Speaker 4: they're in, which again, by the way, they're a good team.
Speaker 4: They're not just you know, the smartest dumb guy in
Speaker 4: the room, you know what I mean, Like, they're actually
Speaker 4: they're actually good. I don't know how good. They're not
Speaker 4: as good as Duke, but they're good. And I feel
Speaker 4: like his coaching him, specifically Patrick Kelsey, is the biggest
Speaker 4: factor in why all of this is off to such
Speaker 4: a great start.
Speaker 2: In year one.
Speaker 4: John Shier certainly a factor in what his team's doing,
Speaker 4: but you know what the biggest factor is. He's got
Speaker 4: elite talent. He's got three lottery picks, and he's all
Speaker 4: so got. You know, a guy that some people think
Speaker 4: is the best player to play college basketball and like
Speaker 4: a long, long, long time. So I don't want to
Speaker 4: get Ben out of shape about it because I can't
Speaker 4: control it. And maybe he does win it. He probably mean,
Speaker 4: he's clearly got a good chance. But just to see
Speaker 4: this guy who I talked about at the beginning of
Speaker 4: the show and I never really told you why, but
Speaker 4: his name is Chris Ly. He's a sportscaster for one
Speaker 4: of the TV stations down there in the Carolina area,
Speaker 4: and he tweeted this yesterday. If we're being honest, John
Speaker 4: Shire's AC Coach of the Year. ACC Coach of the
Speaker 4: Year because it's Duke. Because it's Duke, folks may feel
Speaker 4: neat Wait a second, this doesn't make sense. If we're
Speaker 4: being honest, John Shire is acc Coach of the Year
Speaker 4: because it's Duke folks.
Speaker 2: He needs some better Grandma.
Speaker 4: Because it's duke folks may feel the need to vote
Speaker 4: for Pat Kelsey, but Shires who deserves it most. And honestly,
Speaker 4: he's getting He's getting run like he's getting I mean,
Speaker 4: he's getting the responses that you know most cooking them.
Speaker 4: They're cooking him. I mean, people are saying terrible take.
Speaker 4: People are saying shir ed did what was expected? Pat
Speaker 4: Kelsey's shattered expectation. Sure, you know Louisville was picked to
Speaker 4: finish ninth in this league, by the way, And again,
Speaker 4: it shouldn't just be only based off overachieving, but that
Speaker 4: also is gonna be an element because when you're overachieving,
Speaker 4: what does that mean as a basketball team or really
Speaker 4: just any team in general. If you're overachieving, there could
Speaker 4: be there can be a variety of factors in why
Speaker 4: you're overachieving, but more often than not, your coach is
Speaker 4: doing more with than you know. His his results are
Speaker 4: better than what you know. And I hate even doing
Speaker 4: that because now I'm acting like Louisville don't have any
Speaker 4: good players and I think they do. But I just
Speaker 4: as much as I try not to get been out
Speaker 4: of shape about these kind of things because one like
Speaker 4: it's not that important, but I feel like this is
Speaker 4: like all the accolades honors that a player or coach
Speaker 4: has ever been up for when it comes to Louisville
Speaker 4: that we fought talked about, you know, like ACC Player
Speaker 4: of the Year, ACC Coach of the Year, Lamar Jackson
Speaker 4: when it was the Heisman. Like there's all kinds of different,
Speaker 4: you know, accolades and honors and recognition that Louisville players
Speaker 4: and coaches can get. And certainly when you know, we
Speaker 4: talk about ul right here a lot because you know
Speaker 4: that's what we do, and you want to see want
Speaker 4: to see those guys get accolades because.
Speaker 2: You know we're fans, at least I am.
Speaker 4: But of all of them, this is the one to
Speaker 4: me where like it if he doesn't win, it'll it'll
Speaker 4: be a travesty because I just don't, like, I don't
Speaker 4: know what, like in any other situation, he's Coach of
Speaker 4: the Year, they would have already given him the award,
Speaker 4: they'd have given it to him a week ago. But
Speaker 4: I just think because it's the ACC and Dukie gets
Speaker 4: the Dukie treatment that, like, I'm not going to be
Speaker 4: shocked if we get that press release that sure enough
Speaker 4: they gave it to Shier. Now what I don't know,
Speaker 4: and I need to look into this, and it's easy
Speaker 4: to find out, like the one that the ACC names,
Speaker 4: and I think they do two for like I think
Speaker 4: all league there's media and then there's there's like coaches.
Speaker 4: I think, but this guy, this guy acts like because
Speaker 4: it's Duke, people won't vote for him. No, Duke gets
Speaker 4: all the preferential treatment in the ACC. And look, honestly,
Speaker 4: they're Duke Like they've they've got an elite basketball program,
Speaker 4: and clearly right now they're they're carrying this league at
Speaker 4: the top.
Speaker 2: So I just, I just I just don't know what
Speaker 2: else Pat Kelsey can do.
Speaker 4: For it to be more obvious that like he's been
Speaker 4: the best coach in the ACC. And I mean, look,
Speaker 4: he honestly has a good I think he's just has
Speaker 4: as good of a chance of winning National Coach of
Speaker 4: the Year. And by the way, he's one of the
Speaker 4: finalists for that award too. But real quick, before we
Speaker 4: get to our first break, this is from Evan Evan
Speaker 4: Maya Evan m i Ya on Twitter if you guys
Speaker 4: want to follow him, a really good college basketball follow
Speaker 4: But he put together a chart that shows which team
Speaker 4: rely the most on returning players versus new players, and
Speaker 4: that could be transfers or freshmen. So the graph it
Speaker 4: shows the contribution in minutes from returners and from newcomers.
Speaker 4: And if you go, I'm gonna retweet it here, so
Speaker 4: if you guys follow me on Twitter, you'll see it.
Speaker 4: But what pack Kelsey's doing like this is just another
Speaker 4: one of the many things you can go out there
Speaker 4: and grab that will really put in perspective what he's
Speaker 4: been able to do.
Speaker 2: I mean, most of the teams.
Speaker 4: That are in the top of college basketball have at
Speaker 4: least some reliable returning players. Louisville has an entirely new team,
Speaker 4: has two guys that on paper were supposed to be
Speaker 4: big factors that didn't play, and here they are in
Speaker 4: a position to wear again. And look, by the way,
Speaker 4: for those you know, we've already had two people mentioned.
Speaker 4: It'll depend on no like these. The voting for this
Speaker 4: doesn't include the postseason. In fact, you vote before the
Speaker 4: postseason starts. Therefore, like it won't matter what has done
Speaker 4: in the a SEC tournament because similar are saying, well,
Speaker 4: if he beats Shyer in the ACC tournament, then he'll
Speaker 4: get it. I mean, I don't pretty sure that the
Speaker 4: award will already have been voted on before that happens,
Speaker 4: as it should, because again, this is a regular season award.
Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 4: But I was getting a little worried there for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they heard you. Yeah, they must have.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, in all honesty, they probably can hear me.
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Speaker 4: again until we go to another commercial break. If you
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Speaker 4: to the to the Coach of the Year conversation. This
Speaker 4: is a really good point that somebody brought up on
Speaker 4: the text line that even though the award is really
Speaker 4: kind of inconsistent and it's you know, sometimes it just
Speaker 4: ends if there's a really good if there's an overachiever
Speaker 4: that also you know, had a team that wasn't just
Speaker 4: better than expected but actually turned out to be solid,
Speaker 4: they'll they'll get it, especially if there's not an elite
Speaker 4: team that's just like on another planet as far as
Speaker 4: how you know how good they are.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's never been consistent.
Speaker 4: But somebody on the text line made a point that
Speaker 4: more often than not it is actually gone to somebody
Speaker 4: that it looks like they're coaching was a bigger factor
Speaker 4: than anything else, meaning more so the overachievers side than
Speaker 4: the guy who's just coaching a really good team that
Speaker 4: was supposed to be really good. Nobody's saying John Shire
Speaker 4: didn't do a great job this year.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 2: I think John Shire is a good coach.
Speaker 4: But this award has often been given and really not
Speaker 4: just this one, but any The point this person has
Speaker 4: been on the text line is so Rick Patino never
Speaker 4: won a CC Coach of the.
Speaker 2: Year, never won Biggiest Coach of the Year.
Speaker 4: I mean, doesn't that kind of tell you that it
Speaker 4: usually doesn't like it's insane, And to be honest, I
Speaker 4: guess the Coach of the Year award is a It
Speaker 4: is a pretty I mean, it's an honor. I'm assuming
Speaker 4: every coach who's ever won a Coach of the Year
Speaker 4: award at any level feels honored that they won it.
Speaker 4: But when we talk about the guys who are you know,
Speaker 4: really really successful as college basketball coaches, we rarely ever
Speaker 4: reference if they were coach of the Year and anything.
Speaker 4: And it's because we're not programmed to look there, because
Speaker 4: you know why, we just know that those awards typically
Speaker 4: go to guys who are good coaches. But again, you
Speaker 4: feel like they're coaching was a bigger factor in them
Speaker 4: having whatever level of success they had. So I just,
Speaker 4: you know, I treat this show sometimes like my own
Speaker 4: therapy session where I just I just talk and you know, get.
Speaker 2: It all out there.
Speaker 5: I want to go down a side street because you're
Speaker 5: talking about like the actual physical award, and I just
Speaker 5: got to thinking during the break, well, I mean they
Speaker 5: might not give like an actual like a statue or
Speaker 5: something like the Heisman, but these I mean, when like
Speaker 5: the coach receeves a Coach of the Year, they got
Speaker 5: to receive like a plaque.
Speaker 4: Or something, right, I don't know, no clue interesting, I
Speaker 4: mean they so what they do is they end up
Speaker 4: like it's a press release as far as everybody's notified
Speaker 4: that these things are like that, that it's done. But
Speaker 4: as far as like a physical award, I don't. I'll
Speaker 4: put it this way.
Speaker 2: I I know a lot of you.
Speaker 4: Are probably thinking, well, surely if they're gonna get if
Speaker 4: it's an award, then like there's something that you're given
Speaker 4: other than just reading it on the internet. But it
Speaker 4: really wouldn't shock me if there's no physical thing that
Speaker 4: like you hang up on your wall like, it wouldn't
Speaker 4: shock me at all, to be honest with you. But anyways,
Speaker 4: what I was saying is I just I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have it. I'm gonna be I'm gonna have a tough
Speaker 4: time if Pat Kelsey doesn't win it, because I think
Speaker 4: he's is deserving as anybody in the ACC has ever
Speaker 4: been for that award. But by the way, I did
Speaker 4: find out who, in fact does name the ACC.
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year.
Speaker 4: All league coaches get a vote, and you are not
Speaker 4: allowed to vote for yourself, at least you weren't. What
Speaker 4: I'm referencing here is from a couple of years ago,
Speaker 4: so therefore maybe they've changed it. But no, yes, all
Speaker 4: all league coaches as well as sixty different media members,
Speaker 4: so there's a lot of people to get a vote,
Speaker 4: and I think it's gonna be a no brainer for
Speaker 4: Pat Kelsey, but we shall see. All I'm saying is
Speaker 4: that if he doesn't get it, one he'll be robbed.
Speaker 4: But two, I'm just gonna say that I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: be that surprised because I just think the ACC when
Speaker 4: they can again, I don't even think it's close.
Speaker 2: So maybe with that said, it will go to Kelsey.
Speaker 4: But usually whenever there's when it's a coin flip, it's
Speaker 4: a toss up as far as who the ACC can honor,
Speaker 4: rather it be the league deciding it or people in
Speaker 4: the ACC voting it. Just if it's close, I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna give the benefit of the doubt to one of
Speaker 4: the Carolina schools, including Duke. Somebody of the text line
Speaker 4: says the biggest travesty in the ACC Awards was Carli
Speaker 4: Jones not winning ACC Player of the Year.
Speaker 2: Totally agree.
Speaker 4: And I can't, I mean, because I don't remember who
Speaker 4: it was that won it that year. It was a
Speaker 4: guy who played for Georgia Tech, and I don't even
Speaker 4: think he was Georgia Tech's best player, like Alvarado if
Speaker 4: you remember, was their best player, that little point guard
Speaker 4: who was I mean by the way they then they
Speaker 4: win the a SEC tournament. That yeah, that's such a
Speaker 4: I'm telling you those two seasons. We Austin and I
Speaker 4: were actually just talking about it during the break the
Speaker 4: twenty twenty season where COVID happened in March and it
Speaker 4: all ended, and then also the next year where we
Speaker 4: had basketball season but there were so many games that
Speaker 4: didn't take place because of test results and we played
Speaker 4: with fifteen hundred fans there, Like, those two years are
Speaker 4: such a blur. So the the ACC Player of the
Speaker 4: Year that year was Moses right. Do you ever remember
Speaker 4: that name, Austin Moses Right?
Speaker 2: I mean he played for Georgia Tech. I remember it
Speaker 2: was a big guy. He's a fine player. Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: But like Carla Jones should have won that award, sure,
Speaker 4: because that was a year where if you remember, and
Speaker 4: you probably don't because again it was a weird year.
Speaker 4: But like that year in the ACC, like Duke wasn't good.
Speaker 4: I don't even think they made the tournament and Caroline,
Speaker 4: I don't even know who they're like. I think it
Speaker 4: came down to there was there was one other player
Speaker 4: in the ACC that I believe was what was what
Speaker 4: I thought was gonna be the biggest threat who I
Speaker 4: thought was gonna be the biggest threat for car League
Speaker 4: and carl League didn't win it, but it didn't go
Speaker 4: to who I thought it went to. It went to
Speaker 4: Moses Right, who again was a good player. But it
Speaker 4: just kind of felt like, huh, all right, so in
Speaker 4: two this is gonna drive me crazy. In two thousand
Speaker 4: and one, let's see, let's see who did I think
Speaker 4: it was?
Speaker 2: Oh? It was it was the Let's see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Justin Champenny at Pitt actually finished ahead of car
Speaker 4: League and Moses Right won it. Matthew Hurt finished right
Speaker 4: behind Duke. So yeah, Justin Shampanne is is it easy
Speaker 4: name to forget? You probably don't even know who the
Speaker 4: hell that is?
Speaker 2: But he was.
Speaker 4: He played for Pitt for a long time, scored a
Speaker 4: ton of points. So Carlea came in third and again
Speaker 4: like that to me just said that, you know, Louisville,
Speaker 4: I guess is just screwed.
Speaker 2: Maybe I was wrong when I said that.
Speaker 4: I don't believe anybody's you know, biased towards or you know,
Speaker 4: never mind, I don't even I don't even want to
Speaker 4: put that out there as a joke because like that's
Speaker 4: something I'm I try my best not to go there
Speaker 4: when it comes to this show, but like I, nothing
Speaker 4: is such a nothing is a bigger turnoff for me,
Speaker 4: if you will, when it comes to like Louisville fans,
Speaker 4: and not everybody does it, but just just like everybody's
Speaker 4: out to get us, we're victims, and like you know,
Speaker 4: it just annoys me. But anyways, we'll move on. If
Speaker 4: you want to join us on the show, you can
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Speaker 4: is the number. We'll get to the phone lines coming
Speaker 4: up here in just a little while. But we're in
Speaker 4: the final week of the regular season here in college basketball.
Speaker 4: In fact, we already have some conference tournaments going on.
Speaker 4: I resisted last night. I was gonna fire off some
Speaker 4: bets because again we've got March Madness already taking place
Speaker 4: the Atlantic Sun. I think that's the conference tournament that's
Speaker 4: already started. Some others are going to be starting soon,
Speaker 4: and you know, that's that's exciting. But I know nothing
Speaker 4: about these teams. And even when I do go look
Speaker 4: at like Sunday, I bet on a few games that
Speaker 4: there were teams I've never watched before. But like I
Speaker 4: was familiar somewhat with like are they good for their league?
Speaker 4: That kind of thing, and I spent well, I wasted
Speaker 4: about fifteen minutes looking into two different matchups, and man,
Speaker 4: I felt really good about it and it couldn't have
Speaker 4: gone worse for me as far as what I bet on.
Speaker 4: So like, I'm going to try moving forward to just
Speaker 4: bet on teams you know that I'm familiar with.
Speaker 2: That mean I'm going to get it right.
Speaker 4: But like I feel like now when I'm betting on
Speaker 4: Atlantic Sun or the Colonial Athletic Association games, it might
Speaker 4: as well be me just you know, putting money in
Speaker 4: a slot machine. And I guess technically that's the same
Speaker 4: thing when it comes to me betting really at any point,
Speaker 4: because it really is all luck, if you know, I'd
Speaker 4: like to think that really, And I've said this before
Speaker 4: when it comes to betting on anything but mostly college
Speaker 4: basketball because I love college hoops.
Speaker 2: I realize it's all luck, right, like I never knew.
Speaker 4: I mean, if it was something that you know, I
Speaker 4: was really good at, then you know I would I
Speaker 4: would be making a lot more money than I'm making,
Speaker 4: and I'm not making much of anything. In fact, I'm
Speaker 4: still up substantially for the season. But you know, now
Speaker 4: is where I get a little bit more dangerous when
Speaker 4: it comes to uh to betting, because my goal every
Speaker 4: year is to bet only in college basketball and then
Speaker 4: be able to take out all the money that is
Speaker 4: in my accounts, whether it be FanDuel or DraftKings, because
Speaker 4: I don't bet on NBA and I don't bet on baseball,
Speaker 4: and I don't need to. That would just be wasting
Speaker 4: money because I don't watch or care, to be honest
Speaker 4: with you. So the last few years, I've been able
Speaker 4: to close out the not close out the accounts, but
Speaker 4: to empty them out and feel like, hey, I made
Speaker 4: this on college hoops this year, right, And so because
Speaker 4: of that, like now that we only well, I guess
Speaker 4: i'll probab. I probably wait till the conference tournament start,
Speaker 4: but I start betting a little bit more than I
Speaker 4: typically would, because hey, why not, right, I've got you know,
Speaker 4: might as well try to, you know, put a little
Speaker 4: bit more on it to potentially get a bigger reward
Speaker 4: in return, you know. That way, whenever I, you know,
Speaker 4: do call it a you know, whenever I.
Speaker 2: Do empty it out, I'll have more to put in
Speaker 2: the bank account.
Speaker 4: Three years ago was my best year that I'll probably
Speaker 4: never come close to to, you know, doing again when
Speaker 4: it comes to just the you know whatn't like I've
Speaker 4: cleaned up and was able to pay off my mortgage
Speaker 4: or anything like that, but it was like it was
Speaker 4: an unexpected, like chunk of money that I that you know,
Speaker 4: doesn't happen very often for somebody like myself. But tonight,
Speaker 4: a lot of games in Kentucky, this is this is
Speaker 4: a weird game for them. They're twelve and a half
Speaker 4: point favorites against LSU. LSU is easily the second worst
Speaker 4: team in the ACC or in the SEC, and a
Speaker 4: win here for Kentucky doesn't really do much of anything.
Speaker 4: But right now they're still looking at like a three seed,
Speaker 4: and that doesn't surprise me considering sort of their resume.
Speaker 4: We've talked about it, like they're in a really good
Speaker 4: spot with their resume. They've got a lot of really
Speaker 4: good wins that have value, so they can stack up
Speaker 4: these losses like they're doing. But as long as they're
Speaker 4: against good teams, they're not gonna be hurt as far
Speaker 4: as the seed line. Now, a loss tonight changes maybe
Speaker 4: not everything. In fact, it doesn't change everything, but I
Speaker 4: mean a loss here at home to LA which probably
Speaker 4: won't happen, that would be the kind of loss that
Speaker 4: probably takes you off the three line and you're a four,
Speaker 4: And really it just comes down to you know, do
Speaker 4: you I mean, there's gonna be so many opportunities to
Speaker 4: get good wins in the SEC tournament, So I don't know,
Speaker 4: maybe what I was about to say is not true,
Speaker 4: but I feel like this is the kind of game
Speaker 4: that could put them is because I don't I mean,
Speaker 4: maybe they do beat Missouri, and that would be a
Speaker 4: really valuable win to win at Missouri on Saturday, But
Speaker 4: right now it's a projected loss. And let's just say
Speaker 4: you're you know, you're gonna say you split here and
Speaker 4: you beat LSU, lose to Missouri, then you go into
Speaker 4: the SEC tournament. Really whereas long you know, you're probably
Speaker 4: safely as a three and clearly can improve your seating
Speaker 4: if you end up making a run in said tournament
Speaker 4: because of all the potential wins you.
Speaker 2: Could get that have value.
Speaker 4: But a loss here, I think it puts you on
Speaker 4: the four and you could end up probably either you know,
Speaker 4: improving it once you get to Nashville or maybe you know,
Speaker 4: if you bow out early, even if it's not to
Speaker 4: a bad team, because there aren't many of those in
Speaker 4: the SEC, it might push you closer between the four
Speaker 4: and five range, depending on what other teams do. But
Speaker 4: I mean, they clearly didn't look good against Auburn, but man,
Speaker 4: Auburn was a big factor in that. Auburn's the best
Speaker 4: team in the country and it's not even close. All right,
Speaker 4: quick break, We'll come back and wrap up the three
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Speaker 4: Louisville dot com. So if you have ever used which
Speaker 4: I'm sure you have, if you've ever used the application,
Speaker 4: the software Skype, you need to be aware that it's
Speaker 4: it's that was the last the last time you used
Speaker 4: it was the last time you'll ever use it because
Speaker 4: Skype is dead. In fact, I think if you have it,
Speaker 4: it'll still function, but you can't, like if you wanted
Speaker 4: to go look forward and download it now, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, I mean, when's the last time you
Speaker 2: used Skype?
Speaker 5: I was probably in high school. Skype was like the
Speaker 5: first like real webcam, like yeah, face to face like
Speaker 5: those before face. Oh, I might have a FaceTime may
Speaker 5: have been a thing too, but that's the the first
Speaker 5: time I remember interacting with somebody and seeing their face
Speaker 5: from like a different location. Was was the Skype was
Speaker 5: a Skype dot com.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Skype was like when I first started, Like I mean,
Speaker 4: we're talking. I mean I don't I don't remember when
Speaker 4: Skype sort of became a thing, but I remember it
Speaker 4: was it had no competition, seemingly like when it comes
Speaker 4: to when you wanted to just use the internet to
Speaker 4: make calls and do video calls, like Skype to go
Speaker 4: to In fact, when I would do interviews, like you know,
Speaker 4: podcast interviews before I had a live radio show, of course,
Speaker 4: was a long time ago. Like Skype was the way
Speaker 4: to do it, and it was it was the only
Speaker 4: way to do it. I don't really know of any
Speaker 4: other platform out there to where you could you could
Speaker 4: do what Skype did. But yeah, Skype is dead. And
Speaker 4: what's crazy is that the death of Skype was clearly
Speaker 4: clearly impacted by the pandemic. But you would think that,
Speaker 4: you know, something like that would become more popular whenever
Speaker 4: nobody's leaving the house because we're in quarantine, that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff. But what happened was a competitor came in
Speaker 4: and put Skype in a body bag and took over.
Speaker 4: And that's zoom. So, I mean, I'd never heard of zoom,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, Zoom was the way
Speaker 4: to go was what everybody was doing during the pandemic.
Speaker 2: And I mean manufactured.
Speaker 4: I still use Zoom every now and then when need be,
Speaker 4: But like for most corporations, they use Microsoft Teams. Sure,
Speaker 4: but I think Skype's actually better than Microsoft Teams. But
Speaker 4: I'm reading here that let's see, it says Skype is
Speaker 4: gone and zooming is the verb people use now when
Speaker 4: you have to call somebody on video. This is a
Speaker 4: write up here from looks like this came from barstool,
Speaker 4: but it says that truly remarkable stuff from Skype and
Speaker 4: the people at Microsoft who paid eight point five billion
Speaker 4: for Skype in twenty eleven, only to watch it get
Speaker 4: dusted by some newcomer less than a decade later, when
Speaker 4: the entire world needed a program exactly like it. That
Speaker 4: is so true, though, like, again, what are the chances
Speaker 4: that like Skype falls apart? In that scenario, you would
Speaker 4: think that if it was struggling, well, this global pandemic
Speaker 4: might have given this platform life, and in fact it
Speaker 4: did not happen. So yeah, Skype, Skype is no more.
Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm not into conspiracies, but it's worth
Speaker 4: mentioning because when it comes to this Skype that you mean,
Speaker 4: this is I don't act like it's like major news
Speaker 4: that everybody's discussing. But we were all using Skype and
Speaker 4: then one day there was a pandemic when COVID took over,
Speaker 4: and then we all started using Zoom, and a lot
Speaker 4: of people like myself had never heard of Zoom. However,
Speaker 4: the majority owner of Zoom. Their largest shareholders include a
Speaker 4: bunch of companies, including one that is named the Vanguard Group.
Speaker 4: Also the Vanguard Group is a pharmaceutical Yeah, Vanguard Group
Speaker 4: owned shares in several pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer.
Speaker 2: So knew you were going to say. Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 2: starting to see a third eye.
Speaker 4: I mean, like that, that's one of those things that
Speaker 4: regardless of what you think about conspiracies and all that,
Speaker 4: and I don't. I mean, I'm so over everything about COVID,
Speaker 4: and I mean, I'm so glad that five years in
Speaker 4: the past now. But that's a crazy thing. That is
Speaker 4: not a coincidence.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: Next, like Skype, sky Skype was seemingly in a perfect position.
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, there's a new company who you know,
Speaker 4: does the same thing Skype does, and they're backed by
Speaker 4: the people who also you know, are the biggest stakeholders
Speaker 4: and Pfizer.
Speaker 2: Like, that's that's not a coincidence, right, It's insane.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know you've worked with me long enough
Speaker 4: to know I'm not big on conspiracies at all. I
Speaker 4: laugh them off usually. But that's that's not a coincidence. No,
Speaker 4: you've tickled me. Now, my friend, stick around. We got
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