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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Sovier and Victor Nuno Leannessee Hockey Life.

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Speaker 3: This is Jesse severa fan track. That is Victor Nuno

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of EP Inside Victor, How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing awesome, Jesse. Yeah, It's been a really busy

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Speaker 3: How are you doing, I'm doing good. I'm doing good.

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Ready to get back into the hockey talking game, Victor.

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I'm ready for some of this stuff. And one place

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on Blue Sky Jesse Severe Blue Sky. All those are

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ways that you could get a link from Victor and

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I which would get you into the discord and you

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can come and hang out for free. But Victor, there

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are other cool things that you are particularly good at

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telling the people about. Why don't you do that now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a bunch of cool extra stuff in

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Speaker 2: We just made a huge update to the Fantasy Hockey

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Life player cards, and I highly encourage you to check

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that's great stuff you can contribute to the Patreon. Shane

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Speaker 3: Darns can, Victor, We're going to take a brief break

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and get it. Oh there's one more thing, Victor, there's

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one more thing. It just dawned on me, not because

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you pointed at me on the video, but because it

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dawned on me that you had one other thing to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are coming up on the most favorite time

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of the year for US prospect junkies, and that is

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the World Junior Championships. And every year we put together

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a World Junior Championship pool, and so if you want

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to be in on that, it's free. It's just for

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bragging rights. We give you a little World Champion sticker

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on your discord handle kind of thing. But we'll be

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doing that. We'll have a few different pools, maybe four

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if enough people join, So we just got to hit

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up in the discord. Tony, who goes by Wolf Tiger,

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our buddy David Dolan, who's a master at spreadsheets, is

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helping with that aspect of it. So you don't have

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to do much other than show up and draft your

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team and watch the points accumulate. So do that. Get

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in there. It's gonna be a good time World Junior

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best time of the year.

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Speaker 3: Love those guys. Fear the Dolan when it comes to

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the spreadsheets. I use him too, all right, Victor? Right

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after this time for reels, we're gonna talk. Why didn't

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you find out?

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Speaker 1: Victor?

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Speaker 3: It is yet another ex Gamers episode, And today on

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the X Gamers we have a few players who you

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have been studying, cutting up film on, writing up for

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the EP rings side, otherwise generally getting your fingers into recently.

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And the first of those players, Victor, is Simon edmonson

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Defenseman four the Detroit Red Wings. A couple of things

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I noticed as I was going over Evanson's status this year.

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Lest he get lost in the mix with most Cider

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on this team or even Axel Signdeine Pelica on the way,

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or obscured by Detroit's continued struggles, Evanson is over twenty

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one minutes a game this year and as of recording time,

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twenty eight games, thirteen points all at even strength, no

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power play points, and basically no power play time for Evanson.

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He gets penaled to kill one minutes though with Cider

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out there, so he is a jack of all trades.

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year than his first two years in combined for NHL time,

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he has shot two blocks in a hit per game.

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I suppose it's really about how much higher the slope

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goes from here, which brings us to you, Victor, what

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is your take on Simon Edmondson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really good, I think, is the bottom line.

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bit too much time in the AHL. He was really

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good there. But I think there's no question that he's

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ready for this role now. And one of the things

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you can see, I think this player card from Evolving

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Hockey speaks a lot. He's in the ninety fifth percentile

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for defense. He's just been an absolute beast at even

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strength defending in all situations, and his offense has been

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pretty good. He hasn't really gotten the opportunity, as you mentioned,

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really negligible, almost accidental amount of power play time, and

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with that. He has been a bash master in the past,

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and it's nice to see him really increasing those hits blocks.

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but I think he can increase that even more, maybe

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get a few more shots on goal. You see some

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of the confidence growing in him in some of the games.

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to is I was looking up at evolving Hockey. What

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are the defensive What are the defensemen with the hardest

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minutes in the NHL, the hardest, the best quality of competition.

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The list goes like this. Number one more Ittsider, Number

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two Simone Edvnson end of relevant list. That is some

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pretty impressive company. This is all defensemen in the entire

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league who play the hardest minutes, both on Detroit, both

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relatively young and simone Edvonson is actually doing a bit

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better than Cider in terms of expected goal differential. He's

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driving play a little bit better. He's his offense is better,

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his defense is better. Both things are better. So all

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that is pretty impressive, and I can only imagine that

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Red Wings fan must be screaming that if they had

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at least a serviceable second and third pair, they could

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actually be a much better team, which unfortunately they do not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, and that brings us to the NHL rank

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King Mason Black and the wonderful poll that he gave us.

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It may not surprise you that he is up against

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Kevin Korchinsky Korchynsky versus Simone Evanson, two defensemen who've been

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in different trajectories. Korchyinsky taken one pick and one year

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later than Edvonson, but had, as we've discussed and chronicled

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on recent episodes, a very rough first season and now

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versus Evanson, who's already impressed a little bit coming up.

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So it may not surprise you that Evanson wins this

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poll handily, sixty seven percent to thirty three percent. Victor,

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is that how you rank Korzhinsky and Edvonson?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. It's hard to It's hard to

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go against the guy who's doing such an impressive job

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already in the NHL. I don't think that this is

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necessarily a black mark against Korchinsky. I think he still

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has a really bright future and ahead of him, and

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I think that quite frankly, Chicago is doing the smart

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thing by not just throwing him to the Wolves and

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this really bad defensive team in Chicago right now, I

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think it's better to have him play in Rockford. Gained

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some confidence last year. Things were seemingly a little bit better,

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but he still had a rough goal of it at times,

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and so good to let him get his confidence back

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up and then doing a team and have more of

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a prominent role when he gets there. Korchinsky's equivalence, he

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really took a huge hit last year when he was

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in the NHL and didn't do a whole lot, But

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now it's a bumped back up that he's producing eleven

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points and twenty one games for Rockford. It's funny when

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you look at the hockey prospecting between these two, because

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Korchinsky looked like just such a megastar with his equivalency

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playing on those WHL strong teams, and he was like

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a sixty nine percent chance of being a star when

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he graduated the model. He graduates the model this year

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is what he's looking and Edvonson was just covering at

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that thirteen percent chance, but we always felt like maybe

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there was more for Edvonson. Part of it is he

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didn't have a D minus one equivalent, see, and so

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that kind of hurt him to build upon. But yeah,

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I definitely think that I like Edvonson in terms of

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all around. I think's his bash is super high and

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I think he has more to give thirty five point

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paces where it's at now with basically no opportunity. I

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think that's only going to grow, and I think he

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can be a forty to fifty point guy with massive bash,

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and Katynski might have the higher points. Upside, there's some

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other guys there. There's a lift shooing off there. Jones

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is still gonna be kicking around for a while. I

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think I would rather have Simo to Edmondson. The kind

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of more sure thing is what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 3: Sure, And that's the kind of fantasy player you see here,

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Victor or where do you see this going?

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Speaker 2: I do think that Edmondson should get more power play time.

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I think he should get more of an opportunity to

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run that. I don't think that this is this should

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be most sider role to lose. But then there's also

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Accidine sending Pelika coming in the wins, and I think

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that he's gonna probably demand that a little bit more.

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But I think that Edmondson could be like, you're a Petangelo,

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top power play to be a valuable guy and has

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really high bash, and so I think that he could

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be that guy, whereas Korchinski it might be boom or bust,

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and and same for Accine sending Pelika. I think that's

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who see when Edvonson is a guy who can and

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should get some power play time but probably won't demand it,

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but also should be fine. I think really more or

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less should be where more cider is. I think those

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two are actually similar. It's un fortunately that they're on

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the same team, and we'll probably eating each other's value

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a little bit. But I think eventually, when they have

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a stronger decoor, one will be on one pair and

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one will be on the other, and maybe Edvonson can

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play with asp and he'll get more offense that way.

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Speaker 3: Victor, I've decided to throw a bunch of vaguely depressing

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comps at you today. To get your open kind of

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an over under will he surpass or will it be

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similar to that? Because in the end, Victor, we all

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turn into these guys. We all hope that these guys

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are going to grow up to be superstars, but in

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the end there's sometimes not quite the expectations that we

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want to hit. And the guy pulled for this one, Victor,

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I want to know, is he going to have upside

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higher than Travis Sandheim in the end, because if you

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look at Sandheim, he's been a half point, maybe a

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third of a point, sometimes a little bit less, but

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the shots hits blacks per game or are a similar

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pace to what Edvonson gets now. And of course Sandheim

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is never going to be one to get a ton

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of power play time, but he gets a ton of

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time on ice. What do you think of that, Victor,

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If ten years from now or eight years from now,

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you woke up and it turned out that Simon and

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Evanson was Travis Sandheim, would you be shocked?

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's actually a really appropriate comp Actually,

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in Sandheim making the Four Nations roster, some people were

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surprised by the did you see that? That hilarious point

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he was shocked at that inclusion, and then I believe

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it was Joel Ferrabye or maybe connect and he said,

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is really good. He's a little bit Travis sin a

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and I think more or less Simon and Edmonson could

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be like that. I think Edvonson does have a little

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bit more flash than that, and we have seen that

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from Sanhem. At times, he'll show some offensive flair. I

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think we all wish he did it more often, but

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it's just not his game. He's just an excellent all

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around defenseman and I think that's who Edmonson is. He's

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already shown he can be one of the best defensive defensemen.

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be pretty equivalent to where Travis Sandheim is. I think

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up being similar, I would not be shocked at all,

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and I think I'd probably bet on that as opposed

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to Edvonson being better.

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Speaker 3: Next up Victory, we got Callum Ritchie apparently sometimes going

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by cal according to some of the LANCH sources I

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was looking at. He got seven games at the old

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entry level slide this year with the Avalanche, followed by

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the old NHL CHL transfer agreement boot all the way

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back to Oshawa in the OHL, where presumably he will

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spend the rest of his season. He has been known

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to get a few hits in his cup of seven

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cups of coffee. Seven cups of coffee victory. I have

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that before lunchtime every day. But he got seven cups

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of coffee this year. He got three hits on opening night,

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and he ended up getting seven in those seven games.

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Even got a touch of power play. Two time. I

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watched a video or inspired by our buddy Meg Angley,

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who's been on the show. I went and looked at DMVR.

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Wasn't her video, but they had a nice one when

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he was sent back to the OHL and broke down

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some of the things he wasn't doing right. Their basic

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idea at that time was he's just not up to

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the speed of the NHL game. Yet he was worse

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on the team and plus minus if you care about

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such things. But even if you don't, he was also

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worst on the team and COURSEI for the Avalanche of

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that time, and obviously, look, he's what nineteen years old,

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he can't go to the AHL. Think he's at nineteen

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he can't go to the AHL, and they needed to

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send him all the way back down so they can

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only give him a certain type of tryout. Maybe it

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was all part of the plan and it's not expected

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that he was going to thrive at this point. He's

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on the list to be potentially on Canada's World junior team,

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so we might see some good things for him there.

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It's really hard. What he did in the NHL probably

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is no way to judge what he ultimately could be

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in the NHL. It's the thing that teams do sometimes

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to give net early touch, especially with the Abs being

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as shorthanded as they were at the start of the season. Victor,

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I'm talking around it, but rhyn't you summarize who you're

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Richie to be as a player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's a really effective player. I think

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he's People may be surprised to see how good he is. Way.

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I think, as you mentioned, some of the speeds, some

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of the things that he was not up for quite

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yet in the NHL is totally reasonable. I think he's

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going to get there. One of the things about him,

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he's super smart and he reads the play really well.

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He reacts, he adapts, and I think you started to

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see that in his NHL action, but it just he

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wasn't quite there, and it was fine. The right decision

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was to send him back, and I think he's going

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to be better for it. But I do think that

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he's going to be potentially a full time or even

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next year, or be close to that level. And I

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think that the Avs might even be penciling him into

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that middle six role as soon as next year. I

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think he can make that jump. I think he's someone

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who might end up being a bit better in real

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life than he is in fantasy. But I think he

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still has the potential to take that next step and

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develop that offense. So I think that if anyone's disappointed

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in him, this might be a good opportunity to get

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him for sure.

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Speaker 3: And the NHL ranking, Mason Black put up the poll

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Calum Ritchie versus Consta Helenius, the first round pick of

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the Buffalo Sabers last year. I love Hellennius, but the

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people loved cal Ritchie Moore. They picked him fifty seven

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to forty three percent, Victor. Is that the same way

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that you would rank the two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm gonna go Richie. I like Hellnius.

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I think that he has a really high floor, but

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I think the upside with Richie might just be a

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little bit higher. Helenius, who tried to play for as

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many possible teams as he could last year, it was

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hard to evaluate him just because he was playing in

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the Liga. He played at the UA teens, at the

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World Championship, the World Junior U twenty, like, just so

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many different levels. This year, he should spend pretty much

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the whole year at in the AHL, although probably we'll

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be on the World Junior roster as well. We'll see,

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but yeah, I think that he's just more safe. Maybe

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we'll see more dynamism from him, but I see more

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of a safe, rounded player, whereas Richie I think has

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a lot of those details to his game too, but

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I think he can be more of a score between

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the two. Even though the hockey prospecting clearly leans Helenius

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right now, I think I would rather have Richie. His

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proximity to the NHL and his ability to still grow

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his offensive game. I'm taking him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Helenia's course is playing in the AHL right now,

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so he's getting a little of opportunity at presumably a

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higher level than Richie, but he hasn't been seen in

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the NHL.

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Speaker 2: Yet.

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Speaker 3: What kind of I like when I hear you talk

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about Richie and scoring here, what kind of fantasy player

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is this guy gonna end up being?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it really depends on how the Avalanche

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decided to use him, because I think he's shown that

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he probably could play down the middle, and I think

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that they would like him to. In my notes here,

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I was mentioning how the Avalanche haven't really been the

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same since they lost Nazem Kadri. I think Casey Middlestat

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has been pretty decent, but I think they still lack

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some of the things that they are missing from a

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guy like Kadri who middle status. Isn't that player some

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of the more tenacity, some of the more physicality, And

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we're Richie could be that guy. So if he's down

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the middle, I think that he has maybe a little

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bit less scoring opportunity, But if they move him to

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the wing, and depending who he's playing with, I think

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he certainly could touch point per game. But I think

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he's probably more of a sixty to seventy point guy.

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Is probably where I'm projecting him to be. A lot's

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going to depend on his opportunity and how he develops,

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whether that offense, whether more of that offense comes or not.

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Speaker 3: And Victor my vaguely depressing comp for this guy just

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said in it as the over under and asking you

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which way to go with it. Robbie for Brie is

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also a middle sixer type center who in his best

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years has crossed a half point per game threshold, in

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his worst years has been a bit under that has

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gets about a hit a game, plays sixteen seventeen minutes

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out there, didn't take a whole lot of shots. Is

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you think cal Ritchie very likely to end up with

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a better career than Robbie for Brie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that Richie is going to be better.

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One of the interesting things about Fabri which you don't

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always are hard to adjust for, but he's definitely not

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as good of a two way player. I think Fabrie

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needs a very specific situation, and I think that Richie's

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versatility might end up hurting him, but it also can

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really help him have a more prominent role in the NHL,

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so that's where I think it can really help him,

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and I do think he has as much, if not

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more offensive potential than Fabry, but also has a lot

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more well rounded game that should allow him more opportunities,

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more minutes, all those kinds of things, which was always

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a bit of an issue with Fabri, who never really

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had too much time on ice. In fact, this is

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nice that you have this, yere. He never crested more

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than seventeen to twenty average time on ice in any

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of his seasons, which I think speaks a lot about

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the player. He definitely wasn't trusted with a little bit

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more ice time and had more of a sheltered well.

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I don't think that's going to be the case for Richie,

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which could go either way, but I would definitely rather

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vote rather bet on him.

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Speaker 3: All right, very good. Next up, Victor. We got Jackson Blake,

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who's prospects of the cool kids already love Victor. Yes,

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the Kings prospects we always love when Carolina drafts anybody,

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and Jackson Blake certainly has gotten the love, and in fact,

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probably of all the players, I think I got to

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think ahead to the other ones that are coming up.

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But of all the players that we're talking about today,

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this guy's probably establishing himself the most in the NHL. Already.

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Chatfield is on the fourth line, but in terms of

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goals above replacement, he's kicking it right now. He's doing

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extremely well, especially on the even strength offense. And what

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do you want to tell us? What is your perception

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of Jackson Blake for us? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, this guy is so good. If you haven't had

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the pleasure of watching you, who should because he is

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really good. He's really good in so many different ways.

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He's very adaptable, he's smart. I think you saw some

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of these habits in college. He plays a really pro game,

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and we talked about this last episode with the tidy

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Admiral Ryan and I just really impressed with his game.

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He tries things that sometimes young players don't try. But

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you can also see that Rod Brendamore trusts him. He's

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a very responsible player. He doesn't cheat just for offense,

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and he's able to turn some of that two way

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play into offense and produce even with limited minutes. I

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think that's one of the impressive things. Not everyone can

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do that. It's hard when you go from playing twenty

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five minutes, you know, in college and being the guy

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and being a Hopie Baker finalists, to all of a sudden,

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you're playing in the NHL, and not just the pace

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and all that, but you're playing eleven minutes and forty

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seconds of time on ice. That's really hard to basically

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play less than half as much, but he's been able

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to make the most of it. He doesn't necessarily have

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the most exciting linemates, but he's still pump a thirty

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point pace out of that. I think if you went

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on points per sixty, he'd be doing a lot better.

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So I think that there's a lot to be excited about.

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If you give him some even modestly better line mates

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than William carry A, Jack Dury Tyson, Joe Eric Robinson,

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is Berry, Ko Kannami, I think the results would be

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much better. I think he's someone who can play at

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the top of the lineup, and I think he's showing

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that absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And the NHL rankking Pole puts him up against Nashville

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Predators prospect matthew Wood would of course first rounder in

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twenty twenty three, versus Blake, who was a fourth rounder

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in twenty twenty one and right now Blake is kicking

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it over the relatively bluer blooded matthew Wood, who's still

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an NCAA player. At this point, Blake is head in

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this competition fifty eight to forty two, Victor. Is that

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accurate to how you see these two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely taking Jackson Blake. It's hard to not

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take the guy who's already in the NHL doing it.

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Sometimes you have to think about what the other player

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could be. And I think we actually just talked about

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Wood on this patron cast that Shane and I did,

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so patrons can listen to that. But he has more

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questions does matthew Wood. He has the frame, he has

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a shot, he has a lot of very attractive tools,

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and he's doing well in the NCAA this year. I

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just still have concerns about Wood in the sense that

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he needs a facilitator. He needs someone to do a

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lot of things for him in order to be successful,

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and so that might actually limit his opportunity. Like right now,

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you see in college he has Oliver Moore being his

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center and that is really helping him more as a

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very fleet of foot athletic center, and matthew Wood needs

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all of that and he's not getting it. He's getting

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it now, but he might not get it in the future,

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and so that's a little bit of a concern that

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you have to worry about. This is what does not

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worry me at all about Jackson Blake. He doesn't really

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need anyone. You see him producing and making incredible plays

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and doing what he's doing with the worst, the least

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offensively gifted of the Carolina Hurricanes, and so that is

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really impressive and I think he just has a higher

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00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,200
ceiling based on that and what could be wrong. We'll see.

477
00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:18,400
One of the scouts reached out after this Bowl and

478
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,440
was like, oh, you gotta go. Would just with all

479
00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:22,960
that size, frame and potential And I was like, yeah,

480
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:25,359
look at what Look at what Jackson Blake is doing.

481
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,839
It's hard to ignore that. And so that was an

482
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,160
interesting and back and forth. I would definitely take Blake, though, Jesse.

483
00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 3: All right, and now I'm going to stack him up

484
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,680
or wait, let's first, I want to know what kind

485
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,200
of fantasy player. Then does this guy turn out to be?

486
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,240
What kind of a profile?

487
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: I think you could stay on the same team and

488
00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:45,640
say that he looks like a Seth Jarvis type, a

489
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,240
Swiss Army knife who could do anything. And I think

490
00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:51,079
the points can get as high as what you're seeing

491
00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:55,799
from Jarvis's recently breaking out into being this star player

492
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,920
making Team Canada for the Four Nations. I believe he

493
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,519
made it right. Yeah, that's really impressive. I think he can.

494
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:03,920
I think he can get there. I think he can

495
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,640
be a sixty to seventy point guy, and in the

496
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,920
right situation with power play time, he can maybe be

497
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,119
even more, which tends not to happen on Carolina, But

498
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,079
I still think that's who he can be.

499
00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 3: All right, Victor In my more pessimistic over under that

500
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,960
I'm setting here, Partially this is inspired by the fact

501
00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:22,119
he's put up a lot more goals than assists this

502
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,200
year so far, and I don't know whether that is

503
00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:27,960
actually telling. That's not necessarily what his stat profile was

504
00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:31,400
in college. But what do you think about him versus

505
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,039
Brandon Sod's career said, of course, all rookie team, he

506
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,599
once made an All Star team. He cressed it up

507
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,400
in the mid fifties for a point pace, and now

508
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,839
in his early thirties, he's definitely more in Trench's middle

509
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,200
six fringe contributor can Jackson Blake have a better career

510
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,559
than Brandon Sad Victor.

511
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: I think he can certainly will he. I don't know.

512
00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:59,400
That's a difficult that's a difficult one. I think I

513
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,880
would talk about players who just frustrate you in fantasy

514
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:06,680
saw It is definitely one of those guys, because he

515
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:09,319
will do things sometimes right and make you believe he's

516
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,640
always dangled that carrot out there, and then sometimes he

517
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,240
will just do absolutely nothing for weeks on end, and

518
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:16,880
it just makes you want to pull all your hair out.

519
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,880
So I think, I mean, I definitely think that Jackson

520
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,279
Blake can be better. I also think he will be better.

521
00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:26,839
I think he has more versatile skills. I think he

522
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,720
has more offense to give. I think Brandon Soad is

523
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:32,200
also one of those safe players as a coach that

524
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,680
you just put out there in lots of different situations

525
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,119
and that he can drive play and that he can

526
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,839
help your team, but you also don't necessarily need him

527
00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:42,519
to produce points, which is frustrating for us. But I

528
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:46,519
think Blake is someone who's gonna who's gonna dictate having

529
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:49,480
a little bit more offensive role on opportunity. Maybe that

530
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:51,559
won't happen this year or even next. But I think

531
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:53,720
he is that player who is gonna rise to the

532
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,039
top of the lineup and be your Seth Jarvis type,

533
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,960
and so I would definitely take Blake.

534
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,319
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, and again a different style of play.

535
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,759
I was looking more for that goal oversus type guy.

536
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:09,079
And I suspect anybody who is playing fantasy hockey like

537
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,960
we were Victor in the late twenty tens probably ended

538
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,799
up with Brandon Sod on them there. I'm never going

539
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,480
to draft this guy again. List at some point if

540
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,559
you drafted him at all. Ever, that is what he

541
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,160
did for you. Following that, let's take a moment of

542
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,519
silence for Brandon's sod and we'll be right back on

543
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:27,880
the other side of this break.

544
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: Selfish hockey's right, selfish break.

545
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:44,839
Speaker 3: It down, Skate the fuck, don't bass, It's still gonna

546
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:45,039
be there.

547
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:45,839
Speaker 2: And you got jumps on.

548
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: Taking coast to coast talking for a still shot bad bounced.

549
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,839
That's a good breakaway.

550
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: I get the bounced boys, Victor.

551
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: Next up, another guy I know you liked because we

552
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:01,279
have to to her, and I believe it was even

553
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:05,519
on the show emil Andre you've talked about recently. I

554
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:07,880
felt like He was a cult hero of mine last year,

555
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,240
but now he's not hipster. He is all the way

556
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,400
in here, Victor, You're on record as a big fan.

557
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:17,000
He's an undersized defenseman with a shot one and a

558
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,160
half blocks in a hit per game, with a smatter

559
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,599
and a points so far this year. A couple of

560
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:24,559
weeks ago, John Tortorella said of his young defenseman in

561
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:28,240
a press conference that Andre had moxie. I like to

562
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:31,480
hear about Torterella saying that guys have moxi and are

563
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:35,039
looking impressive out there. He's been getting some power playtime

564
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,279
on ice. They put him out there with Rasmus wrist

565
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:39,960
Alonen and don't fear, which tells you that they must

566
00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:43,079
have some faith in the defense from this young man. So,

567
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:46,920
Emil Andre, Victor, what is your take on this man's profile.

568
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:51,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a huge fan of him and Andre at

569
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,039
this point, I've written a lot of these articles. On

570
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,200
a lot of times, I have an idea about the

571
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,039
player when I go into it. I really try to

572
00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:58,599
keep an open mind. But a lot of times it's

573
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,839
like your suspicions are confe based on what they're more

574
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,119
or less conservative, and you're like Okay, yeah, I have

575
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,720
an idea of what's going on here, but this is

576
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:09,319
one where it completely caught me off. Carl I did.

577
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,880
I've always liked them Andrea, as you said, he's been

578
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:14,400
I've been a fan of his. He's an undersized guy

579
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,440
who always had good two way play and was more

580
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,519
physical than you thought. But I really did not know

581
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,200
that he was this good when I started looking into

582
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:25,359
him more, and not just like in the past. But

583
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,200
what he's been doing on the Flyers so far this

584
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:33,000
season has been truly impressive. He is getting he's not

585
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:36,519
just getting the role, he's thriving in it. And he's

586
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,400
getting the fifth most ice time right now average time

587
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200
on ice total, and so Sanhaim York have been a

588
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,920
little bit ahead of him. He's been been that mixed

589
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,839
with rust Linen and Drysdale and then yeah, you mentioned

590
00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:48,640
the power play time is really the big issue, and

591
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,160
they've been shifting that all around and Drysdale has been

592
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,119
getting a lot of it, Andrea has been getting it

593
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,480
a little bit more recently. But that's always been a

594
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:59,720
problem in Philly. But man, Andrea is just so good.

595
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:02,720
He's already so good so early in his career. I

596
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:05,200
think that's the part that's most impressive. Nineteen games in

597
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,000
and he's an eighty six percentile for defense in the league,

598
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:13,279
and offensively he's at sixtieth percentile. You look at his

599
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:18,039
expected offensive creation versus his actual goals, and you can

600
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:20,640
tell that the team around him is just not converting.

601
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,519
When he's on the ice. He's creating a ton of

602
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:26,160
offense that's not going anywhere, that's dying on the sticks

603
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,920
of his teammates, and that's a little bit of frustrating.

604
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,599
But no, he's really good. This also doesn't happen to

605
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,720
me very often, but I actually sent out trade offers

606
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,720
and every single league I'm in as soon when I

607
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:39,720
finished writing this article, because I was like, oh my god,

608
00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:42,200
I want this guy, and every team I have I

609
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,599
can get him on. And I only got him on

610
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,759
four teams, which was disappointing. But I really like him,

611
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:51,119
and I think that everyone should go look right now

612
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,160
and see if he's available in your dynasty league, because

613
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,880
he is proving it at the top level. He's proving

614
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,839
he can play it even strength. He's getting some power

615
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:00,279
player opportunity. I think he has even more to get.

616
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,039
But he is also just about to turn twenty three,

617
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:06,480
so he's not super young, and he's had some HL time,

618
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,519
but I think there's even more improvement to come from

619
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:10,079
m Landre.

620
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:15,599
Speaker 3: That's the right Victor and the NHL ranking to back

621
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,720
you up. Put him up against Topy Niamella of the

622
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:23,119
Toronto Maple Leafs, who's he's playing for the Marles right now.

623
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,319
But Andre in an absolute stomping seventy six to twenty

624
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:33,039
four percent. The universe shares your Andre love Victor. Is

625
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:35,480
that an accurate rack and stack?

626
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:42,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? Isn't it funny to see Maple Leaf prospect not

627
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,920
completely went out? I was surprised by that. I get

628
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,279
there's a lot of Flyers fans too, but I think

629
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:51,400
there's some frustration with Niamela. I think that he has

630
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:54,680
been doing pretty well in the HL for the Marles.

631
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:59,279
I think maybe some people were hoping he'd do a

632
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:01,000
little bit better, but there's not really a whole lot

633
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,759
of room for him at the NHL level. He'd have

634
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,160
to really bust the door down, but he's been doing

635
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,000
well there. I'm just not sure that he is that

636
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,400
offensive guy that some people thought he once was, and

637
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,000
Andre is just I think there's some recency bias there

638
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:15,039
him killing it in the NHL, I think it's hard

639
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:18,559
for It's hard to find someone that you'd be more

640
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:20,880
excited about. And Mason even said he had a hard

641
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,839
time finding a comp for Andre someone who's in that

642
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,039
similar situation, young ish breaking into the league. But yeah,

643
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:31,200
I would definitely, very clearly take Andre here, and I

644
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,400
think that he also in the hockey prospecting looks a

645
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,720
lot better, like his star potential has just been trending

646
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:37,720
up and up, whereas DMLS was a little bit more

647
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,960
flat lined. So yeah, very easily, m Andre Jesse, I

648
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,759
am ready for your crazy stat unless you have another question.

649
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,599
Speaker 3: For me, where are we going with a fantasy player?

650
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,039
Then here?

651
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: Man, it's so hard to project anything in Philly because

652
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,720
they just moved their roles all around. I think that

653
00:32:57,839 --> 00:33:00,279
for a long time there was questions about, Oh, it's

654
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:03,359
gonna be Cam York's, it's gonna be Jimmie Drysdale's. We've

655
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,319
seen the power play opportunity been given to a bunch

656
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,480
of different people. Even Eager Zamula Sanaheim has had some

657
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,160
So a lot of it's going to depend on the

658
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,240
power play time. I think if you have a coach

659
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,079
like Towards who rewards strong even strength play with power

660
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:19,839
play time. I think that Emma Laundry is going to

661
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,359
get a ton of that, So I think that's going

662
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,039
to really help him. I think, as I mentioned, you

663
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:27,640
should try to acquire him before that expected offense turns

664
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,759
into actual offense, because he really is generating a ton

665
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:32,720
and it's just not going in yet, but it will.

666
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:35,920
There's gonna be some correction on that, and he's gonna

667
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,519
get some offensive, more offensive production. So I think he

668
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:43,400
can be like a forty ish plus guy even without

669
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,839
a ton of power play time and pretty decent bash.

670
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,279
So that's that's who I think he can be. He

671
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:50,720
should get a ton of minutes. He's already earning a

672
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,599
lot of minutes, and I think that he can continue

673
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,759
to get more. And you might think because he's five eleven,

674
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:56,680
five to nine or whatever that he's not physical. Well,

675
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,119
oh no, he's just fine there. Like he hits and

676
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,480
blocks at least one per game and sometimes you get

677
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:04,960
a couple in there. He's not a big shooter right now,

678
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,239
but that might change. But he's getting He's already getting

679
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,000
almost twenty minutes of ice in his first nineteen games.

680
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:13,000
That's pretty incredible. That is only going to grow, and

681
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:16,079
I think he's he could be future like top liner

682
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,360
or at least top four second pairing. I would say

683
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,440
at worse is where I think he's probably gonna end up.

684
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Victor, And where I set my weird over under

685
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,400
with Emil Andre was Tory Krug. Would you believe Tory

686
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,119
Krug never had more than fifty nine points in a season,

687
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,920
even in his helsey on Boston days. But obviously we

688
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,079
always bring up Tory Krug, and we're talking about a

689
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:41,599
tiny defenseman, these five nine ish type guys, And of

690
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:45,199
course Tory Krug has lived off power play time throughout

691
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,239
his career and has never rung up the hits. Although

692
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,719
he's generally around he's bitter at about a hit per

693
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,559
game through through most of his prime. He's probably a

694
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:58,519
little past that right now, in around twenty twenty one minutes.

695
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,280
So I think think what I was hearing you say,

696
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,039
more physicality, more time on ice, perhaps less power play time,

697
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:09,599
perhaps more points. Is that what I got out of

698
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:12,119
what you said? Victor Or? How would you compare the

699
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,199
stat line we're going to end up getting for fantasy

700
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,159
to mister Krug.

701
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:21,559
Speaker 2: I think Krug will probably have more points. I don't

702
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:24,599
know that Emilon. I guess anything's possible, but I don't

703
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:27,480
really think that he has a fifty nine point season,

704
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:30,639
so that is probably going to go to Krug. But

705
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,039
I think that Andre is certainly going to have more

706
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:38,159
bash and more all around valued in that sense. The

707
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,239
points is really the part where I'm notatually I think

708
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,719
he will be similar except for that outlier season. I

709
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,440
think most of what I see on kruge stat line

710
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:48,239
is that forty to fifty ish point guy with a

711
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,519
couple of spikes above that, and I think that's who

712
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:53,400
Andre can be. I think in general though his points

713
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,000
upside is probably just under Krug. But I think the

714
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bash and the other stats a few and tidy where

715
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:02,360
you value Fenwick and play driving than I think Andre's

716
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,039
value is much much higher.

717
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Speaker 3: All right, And the I believe the last one we

718
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,280
have up for today, Marco Casper. I know you've been

719
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breaking down video of him and posting it up on

720
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,920
the interwebs this week that people ow to check out

721
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an Austrian centiment within a full time NHL A these days,

722
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:24,519
A second Detroit player for discussion today. A second member

723
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:28,239
that Red Wings lineup, he has the most even strength

724
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:34,639
defensive goals above replacement of all Detroit forwards. Put more simply,

725
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:40,119
he's the most effective even strength forward on defense for Detroit.

726
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:43,559
The heat zone chart is very weird for his on

727
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,639
off because there are incredibly red reds and blue blues

728
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,400
when he's on the ice, So some areas are way

729
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,719
worse than the average. Some areas are way better. Luckily

730
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,760
for Casper, the area that just drops into a dead

731
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,280
zone is right in front of the net. If Casper's

732
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,199
out there, people simply do not score in the net front.

733
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He plays a middle six role, mostly with pastex schemer

734
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,400
Jonathan Bergren and agent shooter vlad Tarasenko, although occasionally he's

735
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,119
also been getting time recently with Patrick Kane. Casper has

736
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to be one of the happier stories for the Wings

737
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,159
this year, Victor, But the offense not quite what the

738
00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:29,199
defense has been. Can you summarize your perception of Casper.

739
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Speaker 2: I think it's basically that that the offense isn't quite

740
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,760
what we all hoped it would be, and there was

741
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,599
hope that he would have a little bit more offense

742
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:41,320
than he has shown. But I think you have to

743
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,360
hone in and focus on The defense has been exceptional.

744
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:46,639
He's twenty five games in his NHL career and he's

745
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,679
ranking in the top ninety first percentile in all of

746
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the NHL for defense. That's incredible for a twenty year old.

747
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:57,840
And I think that the Red Wings have been, you know,

748
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000
having a lot trying out a lot of different guys.

749
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,800
They found their top line center. Dylan Larkin is clearly

750
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,079
their top center, and he's incredible, and he can do

751
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:07,880
a lot of things, and I think he can take

752
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,079
this team to some pretty impressive heights. But the question

753
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,599
is the question has been who do they have behind

754
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:17,920
and who is going to be that next level player

755
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,239
that kind of helps provide them a lot of support.

756
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And I would say personally, they tried a bunch of

757
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,000
different things and they really overspent. They paid j T

758
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:31,440
Comfort Andrew Kopp five million plus each to be that

759
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:34,400
second line center, and they just are not that player,

760
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:36,440
I don't think, and I think that they have found

761
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:39,320
him with Marco Casper, they have found their second line center.

762
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,440
I think he fits that role quite nicely. Is the

763
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:44,880
our offense to give is really the big question, and

764
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,320
that I'm really not sure about I talk when the

765
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,639
article goes into talking about some different aspects of his

766
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:53,000
game and what we can expect and what other people think,

767
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,960
and the consensus is that we're not really sure that

768
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,480
it's going to come. He might be more of a

769
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forty to fifty point guy, but a defensive specialist, maybe

770
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,880
like your next Jordan Stall Jesse, which certainly not that

771
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,760
exciting for fantasy but can have some certainly can have

772
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,679
some value at times and can be worth rostering and

773
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,800
depending on the right situation in the right week some

774
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,960
when you might stream in, but unless you're in a

775
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,119
super deep league, that is certainly not a name that

776
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:19,360
gets you excited.

777
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: Jordan Stall is sort of an eternal fixture on your

778
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,480
waiver wire, if you have a waiver wire where you

779
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:31,840
stream in fantasy, Jordan Stall's name multiple times a day.

780
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,960
That's what I have to tell you, just because he's

781
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:38,039
always productive, but usually not quite productive enough to be

782
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,920
on your roster in a strictly points type format. So

783
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,880
Mason Black, the NHL ranking put Marco Casper up against

784
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,519
Michael Brand said Nigard and one of our Norwegian fellas.

785
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:54,679
I believe drafty this year for the Red Wings as well.

786
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,800
He's a year younger even though he was drafted two

787
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,400
years later brand sick ne Guard and he's playing over

788
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,679
in the SHL right now. The people have spoken and

789
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,840
the man who's already been successful in the NHL to

790
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,360
some level won the pull over the newly drafted fella

791
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,079
back over in the SHL, but only sixty forty for

792
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:20,639
Casper over bransickne Guard. Is that the way you would

793
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,559
compare these two?

794
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm definitely going Casper here, and I

795
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,519
don't I wouldn't really worry too much about. It's funny

796
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:33,800
because a lot of people were saying how these players

797
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,800
are so similar, and even Nate Danielson from last year,

798
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,719
how these players are all similar. Are good defensively, good

799
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,559
two way, but not a whole lot of offense, and

800
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:47,679
that was all disappointing. I think that there is some

801
00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:49,400
some good hope here in terms of the depth that

802
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,039
they're creating. Michael Bransig ni Guard, by the way, they

803
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,880
I believe the highest ever drafted Norwegian player at fifteenth overall,

804
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,159
which is pretty cool and good for him, and I

805
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:01,760
think that he can be a decent player, and maybe

806
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,719
there's still more to give here for Brenswick Nieguard his

807
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:08,440
in case people are wondering, he first of all, he's

808
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,519
really old for that draft class last year, and so

809
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:12,880
he's already nineteen. He'll be nineteen all of this season.

810
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:16,320
He's playing in the SHL for Shileftia, who's a really

811
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,440
pretty good team. Seven points in seventeen games. He was

812
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,400
with Mora of the Fenskan last year, so he's on

813
00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:24,400
loan playing in the SHL, which is good to get

814
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,159
that improvement and maybe he will show that there's still

815
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,280
a little bit more offense to give right now, Looking

816
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,599
at the PNHA League between Bransickna Guard this year, it's

817
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,000
only like at forty six, whereas Casper is at thirty

818
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,719
one based on his NHL time, so it looks like

819
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,000
it might be Bransick nie Guard, but it's really tough

820
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,159
to say. And Casper was certainly more productive at a

821
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:48,039
younger age in a similar league, so I think that

822
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:53,440
there's a lot less hope for MBD MBN to create

823
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:56,360
that more offense. Looking at the hockey prospecting between the

824
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,840
two that it's funny because they're going a similar downwards

825
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,679
jectory in their D plus one season, both these guys

826
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,920
were at nine percent chance of being a star and

827
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,920
then Casper turning it down to one percent. My brasigneguard

828
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:11,719
might similarly decrease and fall off, so we'll have to

829
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,039
see if that's the case. But yeah, I definitely like

830
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:17,079
Mirchao Caspi here. But again, both these guys are not

831
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:17,880
super exciting.

832
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Casper's not scoring much. I suppose that hurts his

833
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,960
star probability is that he gets up and then isn't

834
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,119
a big score. But certainly, again, like you said, he's

835
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:31,280
going to get the minutes that some good things are

836
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,760
probably going to happen for him on the ice. That's

837
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,880
pretty much for a fantasy player here, Victor. Is this

838
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,039
is going to be a guy who is a real

839
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:45,159
world over fantasy. Is that right? Yeah?

840
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I'm probably gonna have to stick with the Jordan

841
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,159
Stall comparable and as you said, someone who's eternally interesting

842
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:54,239
on the wire, but probably not someone that you want

843
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,480
to hold on to for years and hope that he

844
00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:59,880
becomes more because that might be worth more in a

845
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:03,480
trade or some other player movement that gives you a

846
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:04,400
different opportunity.

847
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 3: Yep, it might be something where if he has a

848
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,719
nice run of success as a young player. Maybe that's

849
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,480
the time to sell because there might be just a

850
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,800
point at which he has a nice scoring run and

851
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:24,679
people see age twenty and positive metrics. But yeah, it'd

852
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,000
be hard to say. All right, Victor, that is going

853
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:30,920
to do it for our X gamers today, five great

854
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ones and as always, people should definitely go and check

855
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:37,760
out the accompanying articles. I don't think I saw the

856
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,320
Marco Kasper one come out yet. Has that come out yet, Victor?

857
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: It came out, I believe today or yesterday, just right

858
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as well. Okay, so it's out now.

859
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, it's just coming out. Yeah, but there

860
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are articles for all these are behind the paywall, but

861
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talk on it. Come on EP ring side. It's worth it.

862
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It's worth it. You got to pay Victor's bill somehow, man,

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I guess there are other ways to do that too,

864
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if you're listening here. But in any event, it's good stuff.

865
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:05,320
I enjoyed the articles, and yeah, people, just as a mention,

866
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,159
you can go out on Fantasy Hockey Life YouTube too

867
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:10,760
and see you cut up Marco Casper. There are other

868
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,559
guys that we talked about today that you did videos.

869
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: For so all the guys that we talk about always

870
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have YouTube videos and that is all free at Fantasy

871
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not wanting or can't contribute to ep ringside, which just

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has a whole plethora of fantastic stuff, not including my stuff,

874
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then if you can always go to YouTube and just

875
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,840
see the clips. It's always broken down into a few

876
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:41,239
different skills, like whether it's scoring, passing, playmaking, physicality, defensive game.

877
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:43,719
So there's usually like a theme and there's usually several

878
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,880
clips in each and that's all free. So subscribe to

879
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the YouTube channel. It's free. You get to watch some

880
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,960
cool stuff that the prospects are doing and get a

881
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,440
good sense of what the article might be saying, even

882
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,199
if you don't read it.

883
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Speaker 3: I bet some of you people didn't even realize that,

884
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So I'm glad to have reiterated, Okay, Victor, let's take

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a break. We're gonna come back and pull os out

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