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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Batflips and Nerds, the Baseball Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with a British twist. I am your host this evening,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Carter, and I am joined by the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only Russell Eason, who I don't think has been on

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<v Speaker 1>the pod since he got back from his WBC adventures. Russell,

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<v Speaker 1>have you recovered? Give us a download on Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>that experience was and what life's like now you're back

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<v Speaker 1>at Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think after let's say two weeks of pretending to

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<v Speaker 2>be a journalist, the comdown can be can be pretty high.

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<v Speaker 2>The obvious prosa being back with with with with with

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<v Speaker 2>my partner and our house and not having to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about those sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, it's an amazing two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Their time out in Houston is really interesting because you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have many press out there for some of the games,

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<v Speaker 2>like the US games have a lot of press, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Mexico games have like a lot of press associated

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<v Speaker 2>with them. But for the games when it was like

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<v Speaker 2>Brazil versus Italy and GB versus Italy, like there wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>much there and so it was like I got the

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<v Speaker 2>chance to meet and chat to a lot of major

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<v Speaker 2>league players, A lot of minor league players who were

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<v Speaker 2>I think, are gonna really do something good in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it ends in Miami and it didn't let it.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a let down compared to like last time around.

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<v Speaker 2>From an atme atmosphere perspective, like the three games I

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<v Speaker 2>saw in Miami last time around were electric, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Venezuelan fans were just unbelievable. Like any time that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be at a baseball game now and someone's

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<v Speaker 2>on two strikes, I'm going to be sat there going

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<v Speaker 2>pnche paunch, pawnche. That is like ingrained in my brain

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<v Speaker 2>now of like whatever a fan must do. It was

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<v Speaker 2>utterly unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, looked insane from I mean, obviously we were just

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<v Speaker 1>watching our home on TV, but the optiosode, it is

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<v Speaker 1>unbelieva when I think people pointed it out. Almost a

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<v Speaker 1>shame just seeing the stadium in Miami rocking like it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't rocked in maybe ever, certainly ten plus years. But

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<v Speaker 1>amazing to see how many baseball fans are in that market.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, obviously the Latin American countries especially are represented,

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<v Speaker 1>and awesome to see Venezuela put out the bag but

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<v Speaker 1>also a reminder that if the Marlins could just put

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<v Speaker 1>a decent team on the field, they probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good atmosphere themselves if they wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's one of those difficult ones where you're always

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<v Speaker 2>just like, yeah, you know what, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>passionate baseball fans out there, but probably like half of

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<v Speaker 2>them are Yankees fans or.

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<v Speaker 1>The Marlins don't have quite the same pole, do they?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Not quite?

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<v Speaker 1>But there we go. But though we are obviously back

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<v Speaker 1>to talk Major League Baseball now season is underway, I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying before we started recording it, it felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>came pretty hot on the heels of WBC caught us

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<v Speaker 1>all a bit by surprise. We obviously did our Late

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<v Speaker 1>Predictions podcast last week, so apologies at that one's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later than planned. But now we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into chatting through some of the early season action.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still only what fifteen or so games in, so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to draw any major conclusions from what's been happening

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<v Speaker 1>so far. But that doesn't mean we aren't able to

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<v Speaker 1>start firing off and takes, and one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the baseball seasons being as long as it

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<v Speaker 1>is is being able to massively overreact to the first

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<v Speaker 1>ten to twelve games of the season and decide which

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<v Speaker 1>teams and players are good, which ones are cooked, and

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<v Speaker 1>then be proved extremely wrong a matter of weeks or

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<v Speaker 1>months later, when you know, all the things that take

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<v Speaker 1>months to stabilize catch you out a little bit down

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<v Speaker 1>the line. So we're going to do a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of that tonight. I think what we've our plan is

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<v Speaker 1>to each take it in turns a little bit to

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<v Speaker 1>throw out a take. And this can be a super

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<v Speaker 1>hot take, it can be more of a mild take.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be about any you know, team player moment

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<v Speaker 1>of the season so far, so ross maybe after it

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<v Speaker 1>to you first, are you coming to us with the

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<v Speaker 1>heat s raight off the bat? Or where do you

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my my, let's start relatively hot.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the good way to go for I

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Yankees are going to have the best

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<v Speaker 2>pitching starting era in franchise history this season. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that they've obviously started off particularly well. Max Freed has

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<v Speaker 2>everything that people wanted after like the prefappearance to be

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<v Speaker 2>saw us in Will Roarren has dominated as well at

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<v Speaker 2>the start of season, and don't even have Garett callback yet,

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<v Speaker 2>which isn't going to be particularly long, but like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm starting out bold, but I'm kind of thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of given what the way things are going.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's say, yeah, Yankees' best era ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I love it. I mean even Ryan Weathers last

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<v Speaker 1>night was and then they lost one Noel didn't they

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<v Speaker 1>that he was outstanding for eight inning? So it does

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they've got serious depth to that rotation. They were, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Free is just dominant week in week out at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like that, take what is a number to beat?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 3>So if we go like.

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<v Speaker 2>All stats, their best era is two fifty seven from

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen oh four, which feels a little a little hard

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<v Speaker 2>to go for. So I might kind of push myself

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of like like an era kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>minus equivalent to kind of at least kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>set it to kind of like the the standard of

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<v Speaker 2>what is out there in that case, that's still seventy

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<v Speaker 2>four from nineteen thirty nine. Probably the most actual recent

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<v Speaker 2>one is in back in nineteen eighty one where that

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<v Speaker 2>was like a one when they had a two point

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<v Speaker 2>ninety or a so like I'm like, I'm basically saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>like they gotta go sub three, wibble at you to

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<v Speaker 2>as the starters for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hard to do. Well, you think about all the

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<v Speaker 1>great Yankees pictures of seasons past as well, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how well the full rotation are stacked up

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<v Speaker 1>in those years, but certainly some of those dominant teams

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<v Speaker 1>at the late nineties, ninety two thousands, it's yeah, amazing

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<v Speaker 1>to think that this year's might be even stronger. I

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<v Speaker 1>like it. How are we going to do this? So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to rank each other's takes on us a scale?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what we mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think so you can we go for all

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<v Speaker 2>this is?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Sort of Nando's Piri Pirie rating of heat.

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<v Speaker 3>I like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a nerdy stat which I like as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to give it. I think you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go hotter as we get going here, someone going

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<v Speaker 1>to go too hot too early. But I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a solid seven out of ten. Yeah, that's at a

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<v Speaker 1>tough bar to clear, but having him as one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best rotations in baseball, I think is certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be wrong. And I'm excited to see, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>once cold comes back, how it might look when it's

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<v Speaker 1>when it's fully fledged. So seven out of ten as

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take that. I'll take that you got for me then, Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I this one's a little bit tongue in cheek,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna go with it, and it's gonna stick

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<v Speaker 1>it in the same division. Let's just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>call it the Red Sox season is over. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming out, Boston. But based on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I was seeing on social media articles from

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<v Speaker 1>Boston media, that's how most of the fans seem to

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<v Speaker 1>feel anyway. So I'm probably not breaking new twenty of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are a lot of head and hands from

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<v Speaker 1>and hand ringing from Boston fans. After their start to

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<v Speaker 1>the season, they were two and eight. I think they've

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<v Speaker 1>now won a couple of games back to four and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously still below five hundred, and I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>tongue in cheak part of this is like everyone gets

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<v Speaker 1>off to bad runs during the season, and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they had a bad ten game run at the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the season doesn't really make it any more

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<v Speaker 1>statistically significant than if they did this in July. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit silly to watch ten games of

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and decide that a team isn't good anymore. The

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<v Speaker 1>not so tongue in cheap part, I guess is that

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<v Speaker 1>there are some potential red flags with this team. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the rotation. The aenny of the year we

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<v Speaker 1>quite as much so far. You know, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>know what we're going to get from Garrett Crochet. He's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Sonny Gray may be showing signs that he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be quite as consistent as he has been in

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<v Speaker 1>years past. Range Suarez struggled a little bit in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of his early starts. Ryan Beo's looked I think

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awful. I hope I'm not getting that wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's not had a great start to

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit concerning. And on the hitting side,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, stories looked dreadfully. I know he's bounced back

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in the last few days, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>a worry. There's a lot on the shoulders of Rome

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<v Speaker 1>and Anthony, who I think is awesome, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>need him to be your best bat, that's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to put on the shoulders of a second year guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think just think there's signs that maybe things

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be tougher than we initially thought they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to be. Given literally a week ago we

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<v Speaker 1>predicted they're going to win this division. I realized I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sounding slightly reactionary here, but that's the other part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is this is a really hard division and actually,

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<v Speaker 1>if you fall four or five games behind, now, that

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<v Speaker 1>becomes quite a hard mountain to climb when all these

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<v Speaker 1>other teams you're playing are really, really good and can

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<v Speaker 1>beat up on you on a given day. So do

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<v Speaker 1>I really think that season's over? No, obviously not. Do

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<v Speaker 1>I think Red Sox fans are freaking out and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>have slight reason to freak out, I'm gonna say yes,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's no fun. So my hot take is season

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<v Speaker 1>over see you in twenty twenty seven, Boston Red Sox fans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an interesting one because, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You say, like it's two weeks, so it's like you

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<v Speaker 2>can't really take anything from it because it's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, every team will go through a spell

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you should be concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>But we know that, like concern in Boston is only

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<v Speaker 2>heard fire like shouting at like what I'm trying to think,

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<v Speaker 2>show hosts that are out there to listen to the

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's all you're going to be getting right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And so right now they are getting ambastard.

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<v Speaker 2>this year really, so like they could sneak into the

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, hmm umm, what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>hot take you've thrown in there that you know, age

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<v Speaker 1>two or eight three wins will be enough for a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff spot in the vaunted American League. But yeah, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the teams that we thought were going to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariners. Interesting to see how that changes in the

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<v Speaker 1>next few weeks. I think I read this was the

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<v Speaker 1>worst start the Red Sox have had since twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>and people might remember that season as the one where

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Sox were terrible to start the year, unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>through the middle of the year, and then completely bottled

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<v Speaker 1>their division lead in September, at ending with that incredible

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<v Speaker 1>from them. So if anything like that can happen again,

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<v Speaker 1>neutral fans will be happy. Red Sox fans maybe less so.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's my take. I'll throw it back to you.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your what's your second? No, sorry, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting one because I'm like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's that hot. I think it's hot to say that. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're because you think they're just not gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs like whatsoever, and so like this this season

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<v Speaker 2>is already done, which I think is is like going

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<v Speaker 2>from they're going to win the division too, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to basically not make the playoffs in two weeks is

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<v Speaker 2>quite a hot take. But I also think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>like it brings it down like a couple of notches.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna I'm gonna sit this one at a

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<v Speaker 2>four out of ten because I think it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>the it's a it's it is a hot take, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a well known hot take.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's more of an idiotic take from me, But

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<v Speaker 1>you're judging the art, not the artist, so I appreciate that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll throw it back to.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Okay, I'll go do a player individual one.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at the list that I had before, from this,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, uh consumer Okamoto is probably the third best

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese hitter will have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, I think that like behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind Eachiro, behind showy Otani, I think basically that like

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<v Speaker 2>he is gonna come out and show that basically like

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<v Speaker 2>he's hitting for power already, which he weren't one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and certain he was going to be able to do

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's come out showing like he's he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Phenomenal and I think come the end of this season,

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<v Speaker 2>like people are going to be like, oh, like he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He is phenomenal, and we're going to people are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be thinking about going like, okay, where does he

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<v Speaker 2>sit amongst kind of like the Japanese players that have

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<v Speaker 2>come across into into Major League Baseball, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to be one of these ones where people

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<v Speaker 2>are just like, he's theoretically eligible for the Rookie of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year award, and I think he might have to

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<v Speaker 2>give some some poor BBWA writers Paul's have thought about

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<v Speaker 2>whether they actually should classify him as a rookie or not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always hard, but as older Japanese players, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen that a few times in recent years. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a spicy take. I'll hold my hands up and

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<v Speaker 1>say I've not had a chance to see him play

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<v Speaker 1>myself yet. I've not got around to watching the Blue Jays,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't speak from having watched him hit. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>know that his reputation coming from MPB was as a

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<v Speaker 1>ya an elite hit to one of the best they've

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers look pretty good to start the year. As

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<v Speaker 1>you say that the power seems to be there, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a thirty nine point two percent strike up rate,

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<v Speaker 1>which is high. Yeah, that would be the course. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be the course for concern right it, And that

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<v Speaker 1>is one of that is one of the first stats

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<v Speaker 1>to stabilize it. It's what creating a strike up rate. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we're probably still too early to look into anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we've seen players struggle to make that

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<v Speaker 1>adjustment coming from MPB, right, So I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>give him time to see what it's like facing major

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<v Speaker 1>league pitching really before we make a full decision on yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>whether this guy's the greatest, third greatest Japanese hitter ever

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, a bust. But I like that you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting putting yourself out there, setting yours so all out early.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is spicy to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's personally spicy given the fact that like Monottaka Morikami

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<v Speaker 2>has basically been my f player for quite a long

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<v Speaker 2>time from from MDB and he's come along and he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's flirting with that Mendoza line but also has an

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred and fifty o BS, which is like he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing everything that I thought he would do, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I just still don't know which way that's

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<v Speaker 2>actually gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. He might even be the third

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<v Speaker 1>best Japanese hitter in the league this year. Never mind ever,

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<v Speaker 1>Muraka'm be giving him. Yeah, I run for his money

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<v Speaker 1>for that sort of older Rookie of the Year award.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to give this an an eight point five,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even a nine. I'm gonna give myself room to

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<v Speaker 1>give you a ten, but I think that's a nine

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<v Speaker 1>that's hot. But look, if if Okamsa can keep it up,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that would be huge for the Blue Jays. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like having an extra right handed bat in a

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<v Speaker 1>lineup that has pot and can help fill some of

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<v Speaker 1>the voids of guys that like the Shet that left

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<v Speaker 1>over the off season would be would be massive. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you're right. Uh okay, My next one is actually

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be tangentially related to that. I haven't put down

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<v Speaker 1>a ways for us to measure this if I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be right or not, which is a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to never be wrong. I think we are in store

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<v Speaker 1>for a historically good rookie class this year, and part

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<v Speaker 1>of that is the older rookies like Murakami Nakamoto who

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<v Speaker 1>are coming over from Japan and hitting the ground running.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of that is that there are a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>young players who have looked really really good in the

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<v Speaker 1>first two weeks of the season. Chased the latter, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>from your team has called off a little bit since

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<v Speaker 1>being Barry Bond for the first four days of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>but still looks like being immediately one of Cleveland's best hitters.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh in case, he has been fantastic for the Marlins.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin McGonagall has slotted in as one of the Tiger's

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<v Speaker 1>best hitters. JJ Weatherholt has been awesome for the Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 1>and now obviously Conni Griffin, who was down in the

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<v Speaker 1>miners for all of what three days, has come up

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<v Speaker 1>No again, I went back to have a look at, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what was some of the best rookie classes ever, and

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<v Speaker 1>basically the answer is to have been really really good

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<v Speaker 1>Bonds recently. Let's see if I can put up the article.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think even in twenty twenty three or twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, the year when what's his name, Jackson Merrill

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<v Speaker 1>and Yama went head to head for Rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like an unbelievable rookie year as far as

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<v Speaker 1>production goes. So that's one that that stands out. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>there was another year recently. Yeah, So twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one hundred and thirty eight point three Rookie war

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<v Speaker 1>according to fangrafts, and yeah, driven by those two guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And the year before that, twenty twenty three was also

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<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable rookie war year thirty four point eight. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess those are the thresholds we're trying to clear here.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm looking at those numbers. Hi, so that

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<v Speaker 1>I might have shot myself in the foot a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit here. But before that twenty fifteen, which I guess

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<v Speaker 1>would have been maybe is that for Chris Bryant year fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>From the hitter's perspective, it is probably like the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>one like quite a while. But a lot of that

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<v Speaker 2>was like coming through looking at it, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>defensive war and you have so much of a When

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<v Speaker 2>you total of the war, you end up being like, oh, like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>who was the how much are the bottom Like, excuse

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<v Speaker 2>it back the other way. I think were you and

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<v Speaker 2>you were talking about like twenty twenty four, the thing

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm just looking at like the hitter side here,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there were fourteen guys who got to War as

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<v Speaker 2>a rookie, which is basically saying that like you are,

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<v Speaker 2>you are a starter, And there were like above average

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<v Speaker 2>Rockyl five the like above three from a hitting perspective

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<v Speaker 2>with Merrill Calser, Turio Mason Willen, and Austin Wells from

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<v Speaker 2>Joey your teas as well. So you're like, these are

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<v Speaker 2>all guys that are.

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<v Speaker 3>Still around today.

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<v Speaker 2>If you jump back to twenty fifteen, it was Chris Bryant,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's eight guys who got three or.

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<v Speaker 2>More war from a from a hitting perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, that's no belief for rookie class. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>An interesting part of this too, is that four of

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<v Speaker 1>which I think goes to show that teams are playing

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<v Speaker 1>rookies a lot more now than they ever have. Partly

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<v Speaker 1>and credit to him, I'll be on this incentivized by

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you no longer have the reason to

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<v Speaker 1>for service time, manipulation purposes, or at least you're incentivized

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<v Speaker 1>they're good enough earlier. But I also think teams are

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<v Speaker 1>where you kind of came up and you'd platoon for

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, or you come off the bench for a bit,

423
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<v Speaker 1>and you know, guys would their rookie edgibility, you would

424
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<v Speaker 1>really stretch out, whereas now I think when you're ready,

425
00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:26.559
<v Speaker 1>teams think you're ready and they're going to give you

426
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<v Speaker 1>a good run in a team. So that's probably been

427
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<v Speaker 1>a part of it as well. And there are other

428
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<v Speaker 1>guys I didn't mention who either have found their way

429
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<v Speaker 1>into starting roles already this year for teams or are

430
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<v Speaker 1>like for you to come up and have an impact.

431
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<v Speaker 1>I think, especially on the pitching side, you'll probably see

432
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<v Speaker 1>more guys get called up as teams get picture injuries

433
00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.799
<v Speaker 1>and contribute to that. But I think certainly at the

434
00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:45.039
<v Speaker 1>top end, it feels like this compared to last year,

435
00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:47.799
<v Speaker 1>is a really great rookie class. And I'm high on

436
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<v Speaker 1>a few of those guys you mentioned to be you know,

437
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<v Speaker 1>immedia allstar level players and some of them you know

438
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<v Speaker 1>for fan bases that could really use a new name

439
00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:57.359
<v Speaker 1>to cheer for, which is always exciting.

440
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where do where do I put this? I think

441
00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:05.880
<v Speaker 2>like if we're saying it's going to be like the

442
00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:09.279
<v Speaker 2>best ever, like it's definitely like it's a bold statement.

443
00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I think kind of that once again, like we've got

444
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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty twenty five years of baseball or whatever,

445
00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:16.960
<v Speaker 2>so basically saying something is the best in that time

446
00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:19.759
<v Speaker 2>period is like that's immediately going to give you more

447
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<v Speaker 2>than five out of ten in my opinion, because it's

448
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<v Speaker 2>just like there's a lot of history to go against,

449
00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:25.839
<v Speaker 2>a lot of modern history to go against where those

450
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<v Speaker 2>kind of people being used. But you are right that,

451
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<v Speaker 2>like you've got that, and you are also slightly skewed

452
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<v Speaker 2>by a few of the Japanese players coming across the

453
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<v Speaker 2>like technically rookies but aren't really so you can put

454
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<v Speaker 2>it out there, so I'll give this six out of ten.

455
00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it's fairly spoicy. I think that,

456
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<v Speaker 2>like because you're hoping on some of the guys who

457
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<v Speaker 2>haven't even like come up yet, like having good seasons,

458
00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:54.759
<v Speaker 2>like obviously, like as a Cleveland fan, I'm hoping that

459
00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Chams Bizana comes up fairly shortly and plays a massive

460
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<v Speaker 2>impact into that as well. But like a lot of

461
00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:05.599
<v Speaker 2>these guys can equally absolutely suck, like we've seen a

462
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<v Speaker 2>few of the other like top prospects do, or we

463
00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:10.599
<v Speaker 2>know with some of these guys that they can be

464
00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:14.359
<v Speaker 2>found out fairly quickly. Although I find that there's enough

465
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<v Speaker 2>data on players nowadays that I feel we don't have

466
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<v Speaker 2>as much of a sophomore slum from a hitting perspective

467
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<v Speaker 2>as we used to. I might have to look into

468
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<v Speaker 2>that see if that's the case or not, because it's

469
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<v Speaker 2>just like, you know what, everybody has all your triple

470
00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:29.599
<v Speaker 2>A data, so all your double A data, so they

471
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<v Speaker 2>can pretty much know what to do to you anyway.

472
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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see how that kind of comes through. But no,

473
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<v Speaker 2>I like the spiciness of that.

474
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<v Speaker 1>Ben Yeah, long left the rookies.

475
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<v Speaker 3>The Rookies.

476
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<v Speaker 2>So to take the end my segue from Rookies to Rockies,

477
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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that is is the cause effect finally

478
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<v Speaker 2>going to work in the Rockies favor That is my

479
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<v Speaker 2>That is my thing that I'm going to say, And

480
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<v Speaker 2>again not quite certain how we're going to like measure this,

481
00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:04.960
<v Speaker 2>but my hotcakes basically is that like like Zach Viene

482
00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:08.680
<v Speaker 2>and Cam Smith, one of those two players will get

483
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<v Speaker 2>close to basically like the course field like home run record,

484
00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:14.839
<v Speaker 2>basically like for the single season. I think that like

485
00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Colorado finally potentially has might have a couple of sluggers

486
00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:23.839
<v Speaker 2>who could do something in that canvas park and actually

487
00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:26.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of like do the damage themselves instead of having

488
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<v Speaker 2>the damage inflicted on them.

489
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like this. Well, I can't believe you're the

490
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<v Speaker 1>one who came up with a Rockies prediction and not me.

491
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<v Speaker 1>So hang on, who do you think do you think

492
00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:41.759
<v Speaker 1>someone's gonna set the single season cause field home run record?

493
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<v Speaker 1>Is kind of your prediction?

494
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, interesting, Yeah with me saying probably Zac Viene

495
00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:52.880
<v Speaker 2>or Cam Smith? Cam Smith of well, yeah, what I

496
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:54.880
<v Speaker 2>was saying with Cam Smith is like obviously I was

497
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<v Speaker 2>that was that was a bit of a joke.

498
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<v Speaker 3>More that like obviously having.

499
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<v Speaker 2>The whole number of games they he's played there, the

500
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.319
<v Speaker 2>like absolute moonshot, the like he's going to play like

501
00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>eight games the other this season and we'll score.

502
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<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think I would like this prediction.

503
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<v Speaker 1>If you predicted that a non Rocky full stop is

504
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<v Speaker 1>going to hold the record for most time runs of

505
00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:18.559
<v Speaker 1>course field this year, I might like that. Certainly com

506
00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Smith looked that, Yeah, the better hitter than anyone that

507
00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:23.119
<v Speaker 1>the Rockies have. Okay, well, this is a fun one.

508
00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:30.519
<v Speaker 1>I wish I shared your optimism. Yeah, it's definitely hot,

509
00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:33.440
<v Speaker 1>maniacts are good. He's hit for you home runs already,

510
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:35.839
<v Speaker 1>and some one called t J. Brumfields look good and

511
00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Hunter Gibb will hit some home runs. I just don't

512
00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>believe in the Rockies at all. But so spicy, I

513
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<v Speaker 1>guess is the conclusion I'm coming to here. Do you

514
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<v Speaker 1>know what the record is? No, this is just this

515
00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:56.240
<v Speaker 1>is this one I made up just for you. One

516
00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:58.279
<v Speaker 1>of the guys in the early two thousands, hasn't it

517
00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>corse Field, like Vinnie Castea or something like that.

518
00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I imagine thing.

519
00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:07.119
<v Speaker 2>It's probably somewhere in the thirties, which is probably actually

520
00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:08.240
<v Speaker 2>fairly difficult to get at.

521
00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.480
<v Speaker 1>But the Rockies and their opponents combined for three hundred

522
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:13.759
<v Speaker 1>and three home runs in nineteen ninety nine. That's awesome.

523
00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:16.599
<v Speaker 1>The average score, of course, was eight seven. That freaking

524
00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:20.440
<v Speaker 1>rules anyway. I can't really find a number, but I

525
00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:22.599
<v Speaker 1>like this is hot. I will give it an eight

526
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:24.519
<v Speaker 1>out of ten. I cannot see a world in which

527
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.759
<v Speaker 1>this is true, because I do think it, despite the

528
00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:29.799
<v Speaker 1>fact they've actually brought themselves back to five hundred, that

529
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:33.599
<v Speaker 1>the Rockies are terrible still, But I will give it

530
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>a seven out of ten for spice.

531
00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:41.400
<v Speaker 2>And will be is seemingly suggesting that Mary Walker and

532
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Todd Hilton have hit forty night home runs. No, that's

533
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.759
<v Speaker 2>the whole season record, not by what they actually did at.

534
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<v Speaker 2>I hate that you can't find these things easily. We'll see.

535
00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm terrible looking up these kind of stats.

536
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<v Speaker 3>I'll get it. I'm looking stat head and see if

537
00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:00.559
<v Speaker 3>I can find it while we chatting away.

538
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<v Speaker 1>While we chat well, pivot, I have a somewhat Rockies

539
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:09.079
<v Speaker 1>tangential hot take, which I don't know. It's another one

540
00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I believe in myself, but I think

541
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>it's worth bringing up. Is it possible that no one

542
00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:18.599
<v Speaker 1>stinks this year? And that, however much we thought there

543
00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:20.440
<v Speaker 1>were still a lot of really bad teams in baseball,

544
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe even the bad ones aren't that bad now. Because

545
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:26.519
<v Speaker 1>the Rockies, as I said, got back to five hundred.

546
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I think they lost yesterday, so they're back below five hundred.

547
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>But they've looked competitive so far this year. I think

548
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.640
<v Speaker 1>they possibly even still have a positive run differential, which

549
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:35.279
<v Speaker 1>is not something that you can usually say about the

550
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Colorado Rockies. White Talks have got Mura kamei and have

551
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:43.400
<v Speaker 1>won a few games of baseball and don't look horrendous.

552
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 1>The Nationals have had some fun games, and you know

553
00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:48.799
<v Speaker 1>C J. Abrams Lo that's great, and so does Wood

554
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and maybe some of the younger guys will keep improving.

555
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And who else do we think we're going to be terrible?

556
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Like the Guardians have been great, The Twins have been fine,

557
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:58.160
<v Speaker 1>The Marlins a the top of the l East. Is

558
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>it impossible Nationals or your are your black sheep so

559
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.599
<v Speaker 1>far team? But this is this is actually something that

560
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:09.400
<v Speaker 1>more like I think lines up with my little, my

561
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:11.119
<v Speaker 1>little snippet one that I said, when you were talking

562
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:13.880
<v Speaker 1>about the Blue Jays. Is that I genuinely think that

563
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>like the Dodgers will get up two one hundred, and

564
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:20.599
<v Speaker 1>I probably think the Yankees will get into the mid

565
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>nineties or high nineties. I'm not certain basicky on anybody

566
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Speaker 1>else actually getting there being some top top teams, which

567
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:31.039
<v Speaker 1>means that also that mosto means the pregeneral you don't

568
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:32.599
<v Speaker 1>have bad bad teams to go with it.

569
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.799
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, like team nobody give.

570
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.640
<v Speaker 2>But I think the line to maybe take is how

571
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:42.680
<v Speaker 2>many teams get sixty something or or like does everybody?

572
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess, does everybody get to seventy wins?

573
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Is your I'm not going to make my heart take

574
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:49.039
<v Speaker 1>that hot, but I'm going to say no team loses

575
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>one hundred games.

576
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:52.960
<v Speaker 3>I was given that we've had probably.

577
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:56.039
<v Speaker 2>We've had a couple for the last like two or

578
00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:00.960
<v Speaker 2>three seasons that like regularly somebody has so somebody has

579
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 2>been actively like properly asked tanking.

580
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 1>They only had two one hundred game losers last year,

581
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>but one of them did lose one hundred and nineteen.

582
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:11.599
<v Speaker 1>The price is for guessing which team that was. Obviously

583
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the year before that, the White Sox literally set the

584
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>single season lost record, So maybe the least, at the

585
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>very least, we're not going to have one and twenty

586
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>lost team this year, which would be a step forward.

587
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>But I think, yeah, I think maybe this is the

588
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:26.759
<v Speaker 1>year that you know, the very bottom rises ever so

589
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>slightly off the off the ocean floor.

590
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh, that would be amazing if we could actually

591
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.160
<v Speaker 3>get to that. I think it would be uh, I

592
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 3>think it would be much It would be an interesting position.

593
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Two.

594
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:43.720
<v Speaker 3>Then for MLB to go like competitive ballops is an issue,

595
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:45.400
<v Speaker 3>it's a good.

596
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Point, can make things interesting in that conversation.

597
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:50.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, yeah, it's really a big issue when

598
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 2>actually like no one has stanking or maybe they can

599
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:56.519
<v Speaker 2>be like, look, we're all the same, and the Dodgers

600
00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.200
<v Speaker 2>they're just they're just so good. We can't catch to them.

601
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they'll just do still look like a level above,

602
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 1>don't they, which is just boring at this point. Out

603
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>of yourselves, but everyone else, yeah, it's all pretty close.

604
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, a worse run of frenchial and baseball belongs

605
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 1>to the White Sox, no surprises. They're the second worst

606
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>the Blue Jays, which backs up your argument. But you know,

607
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:16.279
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, it's been a lot of competitive

608
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.039
<v Speaker 1>baseball so far, which which we love to see.

609
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, I'll i'll I like it, Ben, I do

610
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.680
<v Speaker 2>like it. I think it's it's solidly in there again

611
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.920
<v Speaker 2>as something that's like not having one hundred lost team

612
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:34.319
<v Speaker 2>is I think just someone will do that, which means

613
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:36.640
<v Speaker 2>that once again, it's like it does go above that.

614
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Like at five mark for me would have kind of

615
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>like saying that, like I think that it is sliding

616
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>more more unlikely than likely. So I think I'm gonna

617
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>give you another six out of ten. I think it

618
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.599
<v Speaker 2>is solidly like it's a good take. It's a good

619
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>hot with that, like just like singles out here, you know,

620
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I know there.

621
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 3>So I'll drop off the back a little bit of

622
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:56.519
<v Speaker 3>what you said.

623
00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Like it.

624
00:28:58.039 --> 00:28:59.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go tell you one.

625
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to have Andy Paters as the highest

626
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>war for a LA Dodgers outfielder come the end of

627
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the season for.

628
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:09.839
<v Speaker 1>An l A Dodgers outfield Okay, I thought you're going

629
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 1>to go super spicy and just position player, but outfielders

630
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:14.759
<v Speaker 1>tempering it a little. He's off to a great start,

631
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:21.799
<v Speaker 1>so lead effectively, is he going to out is the

632
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:24.839
<v Speaker 1>real bet to it, and basically, as he's given himself

633
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:29.279
<v Speaker 1>for almost a one war head start, it's like, how

634
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>long is the other one?

635
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

636
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess yeah?

637
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Basically it's effectively out of those three.

638
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I thought about going Mike for whole positional player, and

639
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I think that's probably too I don't

640
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.319
<v Speaker 2>think that's that's actually going to happen. So this one

641
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>might might come down on the hot take regard, but

642
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>it's because it's a little bit too likely to happen.

643
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.079
<v Speaker 1>I like it, spicy, you know, don't call me a

644
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 1>status nerd, but a five thirty three babbit feels tough

645
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:00.319
<v Speaker 1>to sustain for a full season. What what?

646
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:04.680
<v Speaker 3>What? But he's one of those guys, isn't he that?

647
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Like it's so annoying with the Dodgers.

648
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>They just find these dudes that are like any other

649
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.559
<v Speaker 1>team would be a bench bat and wouldn't go anywhere

650
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and would end up kind of in that quada bouncing

651
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>around position, and the Dodgers turned them from those players

652
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 1>into like genuine, legitimate everyday players who contribute with the

653
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 1>glove and the bat. And he's just the next one

654
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 1>in that in that line, isn't he?

655
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 2>Do?

656
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to keep this up all yet, No.

657
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 2>For me, he's a hilarious one because last year a

658
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 2>when I went to went to with my partner and

659
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:37.559
<v Speaker 2>we saw a couple of Angels games against the Pirates

660
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.000
<v Speaker 2>and Dodgers game against the Pirates, and we watched Schemes

661
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.240
<v Speaker 2>versus Yamamoto at which the Pirates actually won three nil

662
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.319
<v Speaker 2>in Dodger Stadium, and Poe has got three hits of

663
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 2>schemes and like no one else got like more than one.

664
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.400
<v Speaker 3>So it got me checking.

665
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 2>We had the chat on the podcasts where I'm just like,

666
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>if you were to just go to baseball games and

667
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:01.119
<v Speaker 2>we didn't have the Internet, you've come back being like

668
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 2>this guy's great, Like he got like three hits against

669
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.279
<v Speaker 2>like the best the best picture in baseball. But you

670
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of just have those singular moments and I'm just like, again,

671
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:12.319
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like does he like April, Like is this

672
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.680
<v Speaker 2>just his time of the year where he's like this

673
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>is when he actually gets on form before everybody else

674
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of warms back up and the season slowly kind

675
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.599
<v Speaker 2>of slides off him.

676
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.319
<v Speaker 1>So you've had this take marinating for about a year.

677
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.599
<v Speaker 1>Then you you were convinced at that point, Pathez is,

678
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's the best player on the Dodges. I

679
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.759
<v Speaker 1>just need time to work out how it happens. And

680
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:35.319
<v Speaker 1>here it is. This is yeah, this is hot. I

681
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>mean really, it's just is Pat has a better baseball

682
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 1>player than car Tucker this year, which is probably a no,

683
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.839
<v Speaker 1>but I I think it's possible. So I'm going to

684
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>bring it down to a five out of ten. All

685
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>he needs is a couple of hot months and for

686
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Tucker to you know, get injured or be rubbish, which

687
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 1>hopefully isn't the case, but it could happen. Could happen.

688
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll take that fine. My next take where I'm I

689
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 1>going to go with this, Let's keep it in the outfield.

690
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 1>I think we have to discuss this game on the

691
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 1>podcast at some point. So my take is pretty simple,

692
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think this is hot. Honestly. Joe Adell

693
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 1>had the best single game defensive performance in Major League

694
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Baseball history when he robbed three home runs for the

695
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Angels last week in a one nil game against the Marinas.

696
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>There's literally no way to quantify this because the defensive

697
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.599
<v Speaker 1>metrics we have just aren't built to measure single game value.

698
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.279
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to robbing home runs. So I don't

699
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:33.039
<v Speaker 1>really know how you approve this, but I just think

700
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>based on what we know about previous games and amazing

701
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 1>defensive performances, I can't see how anyone can compete with

702
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 1>what he did. So probably not a hot take, but

703
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I think we just have to mention the fact that

704
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 1>that was the most insane thing I've ever seen an

705
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>outfield to do.

706
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:52.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if there's a way of getting

707
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 2>like DRS or efens or like or any of like

708
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:01.599
<v Speaker 2>the outfield above average, like a feeling above average metrics

709
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 2>for a singular game, but like I haven't looked to

710
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 2>see like what the catch probability of those things work.

711
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>But there anytime you rob something like that, it's pretty

712
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.559
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty ridiculous. And to do it like three times

713
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:17.240
<v Speaker 2>in very similar ways, it's like every single one of

714
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>them is him running to his left like taking it

715
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>basically like at the fence. I think they're within like

716
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, like twenty feet of each other,

717
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>like on the fence as well, So.

718
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Identical, weren't they. Then I'll see the third one he

719
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>ends up in the crowd, which, if anything, added to

720
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>the drama of it.

721
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Also tangential hot take that should be a home run.

722
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I knew you're going to bring this up. Disagree.

723
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:43.319
<v Speaker 2>That is an opinion that I've had and I wrote

724
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.119
<v Speaker 2>an article about probably like five years ago now. But

725
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>JBJ did what did it? Once at in at Fenway.

726
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, if you don't maintain the ball in

727
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the field, it's left the field, like I'm sorry.

728
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.279
<v Speaker 3>The ball like that.

729
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Everything you're saying makes total sense. I don't agree, But

730
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>how cool is it when a guy dives into the

731
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:10.599
<v Speaker 1>stands and then just stands up like a del did

732
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>glove in the air.

733
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.760
<v Speaker 2>It's made by the girl who took the photo like

734
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.239
<v Speaker 2>behind it, but you have that like you have to

735
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 2>shot in glove in hand like almost like Rocky power posse.

736
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, there should be a joyed Ell statue of

737
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.400
<v Speaker 2>that by the end of the season as far as

738
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned, Like they they've got a deal or they

739
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 2>should be a joy A Dell bobble head with that

740
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:37.119
<v Speaker 2>of that pose of the season, like because you got

741
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 2>to live on it like it is right now, like yeah,

742
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>it's it's undeniable, like a yeah, it's not a particularly

743
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>hot take. To suggest that there would be a better

744
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 2>defensive performance than that in the season best defensive performance. Ever, honestly,

745
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.679
<v Speaker 2>we don't see enough defensive highlights to basically be like

746
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.679
<v Speaker 2>to actually see what's happening in the past. There's probably

747
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>be some old timers who will be telling us about

748
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 2>like well the attack and other things like that, where

749
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 2>you plays that saved a perfect game or whatever to

750
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.639
<v Speaker 2>do to do those sorts of things, or but an

751
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:18.039
<v Speaker 2>assisted triple plays and stuff like that.

752
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:18.960
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, like.

753
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 2>It's it's phenomenal and in our day and age, where

754
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:26.199
<v Speaker 2>like you, it's like I think we probably all woke

755
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>up and saw all three and saw basically I saw

756
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the highlight of basically like Adele Rob's three home runs

757
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and basically kind of like happen, so kind of it

758
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 2>was lost a little bit on us, but like the

759
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 2>it's just how it happened to the people who were

760
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>there or the people who watch it watch it live.

761
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I just can't think of anything that would be like

762
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.159
<v Speaker 3>it'd be more ridiculous.

763
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:52.239
<v Speaker 2>So you have watched something that probably hasn't happened in

764
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>the one hundred thousand baseball games that have happened in

765
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Major League history.

766
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's just like, yeah.

767
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.039
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it is like luck because they're three

768
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.599
<v Speaker 1>amazing catches, but like to have three balls that were

769
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>all basically a foot above the fence hit to the

770
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>exact same part of the park is super like. The

771
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 1>reason that you don't see many home run robberies is

772
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that there aren't very many opportunities generally home run robberies.

773
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 1>So to have three balls all hit to his side

774
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:16.559
<v Speaker 1>of the field and foot above the fence that he

775
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>could rob obviously just takes just an insane stroke of yeah,

776
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.440
<v Speaker 1>luck or variants to to make that happen. But the

777
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 1>fact that he caught all three, the fact it was

778
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 1>a one nil game, Yeah, it's just nuts, isn't it.

779
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 1>And you know what could be more high leverage than

780
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Angels winning one of their sixty six

781
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>wins this year in April against the Mariners. That's that's

782
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the stuff of dreams.

783
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.400
<v Speaker 2>The true Angels aspect of it. It should have been

784
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>a one nil loss. It should have been a freaking

785
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 2>tungsten armord oyl.

786
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Like, that's true, that's very true.

787
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Speaker 2>The hottake of saying that this is the defensive formance

788
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 2>of the season one at zero.

789
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Maybe yeah, ahull time two.

790
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I've got to give it a three or a four

791
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>because it's just okay, honestly, like I haven't watched there

792
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.559
<v Speaker 2>are so many baseball games out there that like, we

793
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>could put this out on the internet and somebody or

794
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 2>go ask like some of the baseball historians and they'll

795
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:18.000
<v Speaker 2>like give us snippets of some games where somebody did X, Y,

796
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Z and and kind of happened.

797
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think that was funny. You mentioned Jason

798
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Starke did an article where he tried to prove whether

799
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:26.599
<v Speaker 1>it was the best Frien's Points all the time, and

800
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 1>he basically o cocclusionally came to us impossible to know,

801
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 1>but probably yes, because he did talk to historians, and

802
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 1>he talked to broadcasters, and he even asked chat gpt

803
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:39.119
<v Speaker 1>who were useless, and basically it's like, look, there were

804
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 1>other games where players did really great made really great plays,

805
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.079
<v Speaker 1>but nothing that was like quite as obvious run value

806
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>worthy as robbing three home runs is. So he decided

807
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it was. But like you say, if you talk to

808
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:54.079
<v Speaker 1>someone who you know vaguely remembers to nineteen twenty eight

809
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:56.559
<v Speaker 1>whatever game, then they might disagree.

810
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:58.599
<v Speaker 2>So the thing is Ben you've just talked to me,

811
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.719
<v Speaker 2>like back down, basically saying down to a one. Yeah, yeah,

812
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 2>this isn't a hot take basically because it's just the

813
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 2>freaking truth.

814
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a two.

815
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Because there's like there's a potential like something else out

816
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>there that like could have happened that we just don't

817
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:12.920
<v Speaker 2>know about.

818
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.199
<v Speaker 1>I'll take it. The better hot take, I guess would

819
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>be that he should get exactly one win above replacement

820
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:22.159
<v Speaker 1>given to his stats for winning the game for them,

821
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:26.079
<v Speaker 1>But we'll save that conversation for another time. Over to you.

822
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think this is quite my This is my

823
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>fun and spiciest one.

824
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that.

825
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Fans love the ABS system right now, but I think

826
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>in two months time they're going to realize that all

827
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.920
<v Speaker 2>this is actively doing is basically giving more strikes than

828
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:52.679
<v Speaker 2>it is balls, and it's actually suppressing run values. So

829
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.440
<v Speaker 2>it's basically making the game lower scoring game. And we

830
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.199
<v Speaker 2>might get to this point because it's been a lowers

831
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:03.320
<v Speaker 2>starting score that was scoring to the season. Maybe not

832
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.760
<v Speaker 2>enough to actually kind of say anything definitive because it's

833
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 2>April and it's always LOWC dead of temperatures, but I'm

834
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 2>going to say, like by June or July, you're going

835
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:15.400
<v Speaker 2>to start to hear rumblings of some anti anti ABS

836
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>sentiment more on the basis of the fact that it's like

837
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 2>it's it's actually a run suppressing change.

838
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.840
<v Speaker 1>This is a great take. I like it because everyone

839
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>is so pro ABS right now, and obviously the fans

840
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 1>seem to be enjoying it. That credits MLB. They've got

841
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.119
<v Speaker 1>the process down to a ta haven't They wear it

842
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:32.760
<v Speaker 1>so quick to come up with a decision, and there's

843
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:35.599
<v Speaker 1>a sort of drama and theater of watching it on

844
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the big screen, and the ball comes in and shung

845
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and then you know.

846
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 2>It's They've taken the best elements of like hawkeye and tennis,

847
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:43.519
<v Speaker 2>which I think, as far as I'm concerned, is the

848
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 2>gold standard for you're using basically something to measure something

849
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 2>which you basically should empirically be able to and basically

850
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>give a result quickly like it's there. The fact that

851
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.039
<v Speaker 2>it's within generally like five ten seconds, the crowd gets

852
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>to have its Oh well, you've already basically had had

853
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:06.719
<v Speaker 2>phenomenal moments of like Carl Schwarber basically walking to first

854
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.880
<v Speaker 2>base even though like the strike was called because he's

855
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.400
<v Speaker 2>just like that mat like there's nowhere near like and

856
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>we we are seeing some amazing things about it. Seeing

857
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 2>there were Genio Suarez called to be struggling, but yeah

858
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.960
<v Speaker 2>twice and having them like both overturned and so you're

859
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:26.119
<v Speaker 2>just like consecutive pitches.

860
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's brilliant.

861
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's pure entertainment, and I absolutely love it from

862
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 2>that perspective. Like I think that I was somebody who

863
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:35.559
<v Speaker 2>was one hundred percent on like, if you're going to

864
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.719
<v Speaker 2>do this, make it like purely robo lamps and just

865
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:41.039
<v Speaker 2>move it aside and move on. But I do think

866
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 2>that if you think about this, I think now that

867
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:44.639
<v Speaker 2>if you think about basically more of an as an

868
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 2>entertainment product than just the other parts of just getting

869
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.480
<v Speaker 2>everything right, this does actually do that, and I think

870
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that it's been introduced like brilliantly. I'll also be on

871
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:58.760
<v Speaker 2>the fact the window seeing that like some players are

872
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 2>like three inches shorter than they that they were, which

873
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely hairs. I think, like, is it Bregman who's

874
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.320
<v Speaker 2>gone from being above six foot to below six foot?

875
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 2>There's quite a few players that have dropped below six

876
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:14.039
<v Speaker 2>foot now that they've been measured and told basically that

877
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.239
<v Speaker 2>their height being too tall is actually will give them a.

878
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 3>Higher strike zone.

879
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.079
<v Speaker 1>Suddenly it's beneficial to be five foot nine, so they're

880
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>all quite happy to be.

881
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.159
<v Speaker 2>There'll be some scandals that people are now too short,

882
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:27.840
<v Speaker 2>probably at some point, but yeah, no, I think what

883
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 2>happened this is what happened in Triple A last year.

884
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 2>There were more more balls were overturned to strikes, and

885
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 2>strikes were overturned to balls.

886
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 1>So that's interesting.

887
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.639
<v Speaker 2>This was like forty five ratio, and it's sat a

888
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 2>little bit higher than that right now in NMLB. But

889
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I think people I don't know whether people will pick

890
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 2>this up of any broadcaster will ever talk about it,

891
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 2>but I think some people might start to not like

892
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:51.760
<v Speaker 2>it because of it.

893
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think obviously it's a bit too

894
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>soon to start drawing conclusions from the results, but I know,

895
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.199
<v Speaker 1>even after the first weekend, it was instantly clear that

896
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the best people at getting successful challenges were catchers, who

897
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:06.440
<v Speaker 1>have a much better understanding and obviously site of the

898
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.079
<v Speaker 1>strike zone crouch back there and hitters do and pictures,

899
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 1>which inturitively makes sense and then intuitively would mean that

900
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:14.159
<v Speaker 1>more balls becomes strikes because that's the ones. Those the

901
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:16.599
<v Speaker 1>ones that they're challenging, So that is interesting. I hadn't

902
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>considered that it might be run to pressing in the

903
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>long run. Obviously. I love the fact that it's so

904
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.719
<v Speaker 1>universally liked right now, that you are one step ahead

905
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:26.760
<v Speaker 1>saying let's be the first to hate it. That's great.

906
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.599
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy that a little bit like when Tony Romo

907
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:33.199
<v Speaker 1>first did play by play or color commentary, sorry, and

908
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you know now everyone hates him. If you were the

909
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>first to say, actually, Romeo's rubbish, that was like, you know,

910
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.400
<v Speaker 1>something you could look back on proudly. So maybe maybe

911
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 1>we can be the first to say, actually, AVS is crap,

912
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.599
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, this is spicey. I don't see it happening.

913
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I think because it's it's been instituted so well, it

914
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>adds a layer to the game, and even though there

915
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, as a whole, it may end up being

916
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 1>run to pressing. I think the calls that we want

917
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>overturned are those ones where batters get wrung up on

918
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 1>pictures outside in a bit spot and they have no exactly.

919
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:08.320
<v Speaker 1>So I think the public perception will still be we

920
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 1>overturn that massive strikeout, which is good for my team

921
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and then you know we've got a hit or whatever.

922
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 1>So even if the data bears out that it's bad

923
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>for runs, it might be that public perception is different.

924
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I like to take a lot. Maybe it'll

925
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 1>take a couple of years. I could see you being right.

926
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I think is a shame about abs.

927
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>We're going to get fewer rejections now, right because magers

928
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.360
<v Speaker 1>can't argue with science. You know, they used to be

929
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:33.679
<v Speaker 1>able to run out the dug out and scream at

930
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:35.320
<v Speaker 1>an umpire for getting a call wrong. Well, now the

931
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.159
<v Speaker 1>umpire can be like, shouldn't challenged it, mate? You know

932
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 1>there's no there's no drama in the ball strike calls anymore.

933
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I think you are right, but I think we're going

934
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.599
<v Speaker 2>to see the glorious ones where like you're either going

935
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 2>to get somebody ejected for still disagreeing with what the

936
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>fresh shown, or you're going to get people objecting that

937
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 2>either someone took too long to challenge and it was

938
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.760
<v Speaker 2>excepting was not didn't challenge fast enough and didn't get

939
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.960
<v Speaker 2>it accepted. Because there was I think there was one

940
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.960
<v Speaker 2>in like spring training where like I can't remember who

941
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>it was, but basically they were basically they took the

942
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>pitch and were going to they're basically taking their stuff

943
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 2>off to go to first and the un called it

944
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:19.320
<v Speaker 2>a strike and they were just like what, oh, I

945
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.199
<v Speaker 2>do this? And then I was like, now you wait

946
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 2>too long, and I was just like, well, I didn't

947
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.199
<v Speaker 2>think you were going to call it like a strike,

948
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 2>so I wasn't even thinking about asking for it.

949
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.159
<v Speaker 3>So well, that was a great one. Only a couple

950
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:31.559
<v Speaker 3>of days ago.

951
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Now Otani was pitching Will Smith catching I say if

952
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 1>you saw this, but Attani threw a pitch that was

953
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>called a ball. It was right to be close, but

954
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.519
<v Speaker 1>not super close, and he went to adjust his hat

955
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>on his head after the pitch, and will Smith thought

956
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 1>he was tapping his head to say challenge it. So

957
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:49.159
<v Speaker 1>then will Smith challenged it because he saw the sign

958
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:51.760
<v Speaker 1>from Ottani as being challenged that pitch for me, and

959
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it was a ball, So the challenge failed. But because

960
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:57.199
<v Speaker 1>o'tanni had gone to disadjust his hat, it got misconstrued

961
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 1>as a challenge signal. So I could definitely see a

962
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.519
<v Speaker 1>jack because a player says, oh, no, no, no, I

963
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 1>was just adjusting my helmet or I was just doing

964
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.639
<v Speaker 1>this and that could quite easily get complicated, but that

965
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.800
<v Speaker 1>probably is more a growing pain as people get used

966
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:10.719
<v Speaker 1>to the new system.

967
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, something that's probably only may may impact us and

968
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.039
<v Speaker 2>a few of our listeners. In British baseball, we've been

969
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.840
<v Speaker 2>informed that touching your cat will be treated the same

970
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 2>as drawing a line in.

971
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.679
<v Speaker 1>The dirt, so we'll get an ejection.

972
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:29.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting for people in British baseball to get ejected

973
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 2>by tabbing the helmet or in your case, so you're

974
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.079
<v Speaker 2>saying someone might just be genuinely like adjusting their helmet

975
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.800
<v Speaker 2>and then it's just like yoga.

976
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>If you can't see that as just being funny, then

977
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I think you need to send to a human check.

978
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>But god lesson about that. The better right do I

979
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>give you a number? I'm going to give you a seven.

980
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that's spicy. I can't see it coming true,

981
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>but I like that you're getting ahead of the abs.

982
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Is bad. Actually take seven out of ten. So for

983
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 1>my next one, I am going to I'm going to

984
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:07.639
<v Speaker 1>go with another moment that I felt like we have

985
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>to discuss at some point. That's happened in the first

986
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:12.840
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. So my hot take is this Walt

987
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Weiss might be the most likely sixty two year old

988
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:21.079
<v Speaker 1>in the world to kick your ass, because for those

989
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 1>who missed it, he managed to get quite quickly into

990
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the brew haha. The fracas that took

991
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:33.199
<v Speaker 1>place in the Angels Braves game a few days ago

992
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:35.880
<v Speaker 1>when Jejge Celaire charged the mound because he felt Ronaldo

993
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 1>Lopez was throwing at his head. And it was a

994
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>weird charge of the man, wasn't it, because it like,

995
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:42.880
<v Speaker 1>there's the ball got away, the player stole second. I

996
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>went second on the pass ball, and then they sort

997
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 1>of stared at each other for a few seconds, and

998
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:50.199
<v Speaker 1>then Celair charged the mound, but it took a weirdly

999
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.440
<v Speaker 1>long time for it to get broken up, and obviously

1000
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 1>on the replay it turns out it was Walt Weiss

1001
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of it who went low in the tackle.

1002
00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:59.320
<v Speaker 1>We managed to bring Celaire down, which a bit embarrassing

1003
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>for the raised players that you have to have your

1004
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 1>manager step in there to end things. But also credit

1005
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to what Wise who is, as I said, sixty two

1006
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:11.079
<v Speaker 1>years old, but is a black belt in taekwondo practices,

1007
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 1>practices mixed martial arts and I think even has other

1008
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 1>like interesting karate or some other martial arts areas which

1009
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea about, but maybe explains why he

1010
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.920
<v Speaker 1>was so keen to get involved. The jury is obviously

1011
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>still out on how successful he will be as a manager.

1012
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a great stint with the Rockies, and

1013
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:32.280
<v Speaker 1>you know he's ay ten games in with the Brats.

1014
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I won't judge you much on that, but the jury

1015
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>is not out on whether he can stand up for himself.

1016
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:38.320
<v Speaker 1>He will kick your ass. He to give him a

1017
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:41.400
<v Speaker 1>chance to. And I think you know that that's my

1018
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>hot take. Do not mess with wart Wise. He will.

1019
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>He'll beat you up, put you in a pretzel.

1020
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll gonna give it to you here, We're gonna

1021
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:53.280
<v Speaker 2>give it to you. No like that whole thing like

1022
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.719
<v Speaker 2>you as you described it is just it's just beautifully

1023
00:47:55.760 --> 00:48:00.840
<v Speaker 2>hilarious because it's like Solair has Lopez's number, like you like.

1024
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.199
<v Speaker 2>The small amount of stats you have in baseball actually

1025
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 2>from an individual versus like a pitcher is generally not

1026
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 2>enough until they've probably faced each other like sixty times

1027
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 2>before you can actually say someone is just better or

1028
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:15.599
<v Speaker 2>worse or where it's still random variance, but Celaire is

1029
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 2>strongly on the way to basically being just knowing exactly

1030
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:21.159
<v Speaker 2>what Lopez does. He'd already hit him with a home hit,

1031
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 2>a home run against him in the game, He'd already

1032
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.679
<v Speaker 2>been hit by pitched I'm just amazed that I just

1033
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 2>that ball just had to be so wild that a

1034
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:31.840
<v Speaker 2>play happened that Celi didn't go immediately like I don't

1035
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.119
<v Speaker 2>know how like a ball going behind your head after

1036
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:37.679
<v Speaker 2>you've already been hit once didn't set him off already.

1037
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>And then he's like, it's just just it's a beautiful

1038
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:42.920
<v Speaker 2>moment in baseball where you're just like it looks like

1039
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 2>everything is like you're gonna calm, nothing's gonna happen you

1040
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 2>thought could happen, And they're just jarring at each other

1041
00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 2>saying stuff, and then they come out. It gets some swings.

1042
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Freaking Lopez punches him with like the ball, takes a

1043
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.559
<v Speaker 2>swing with the balls still in his hand. Love that,

1044
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>and like, I think makes reasonable contact, and you're then

1045
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 2>you're just like, oh, so seven games each and I

1046
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 2>was just like okay, sure, like you I feel like

1047
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 2>they're definitely trying to stamp it out a little bit

1048
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 2>more than they used towar. I swear like when a

1049
00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:22.119
<v Speaker 2>miner Garrett went basically just by himself against the Pirates,

1050
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.159
<v Speaker 2>he goingly got like four games for that or something

1051
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:24.320
<v Speaker 2>like that.

1052
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Might be completely nothing wrong, but.

1053
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 2>It definitely feels like they're trying to stamp this thing

1054
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 2>out of baseball. But yeah, wallow man, that is just

1055
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 2>like I didn't see that like what I saw the

1056
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 2>first time round, but I saw a comment that somebody

1057
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.360
<v Speaker 2>had put on on a post a picture about it,

1058
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:45.280
<v Speaker 2>and it'd just been like, dude, I am fighting with

1059
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the Braves this season. The unwritten rules are not going

1060
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 2>to be enforced against the Braves.

1061
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Now he got out there forced. Yeah, don't mess with him.

1062
00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1063
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 2>So I think obviously, as a sixty two year old

1064
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.039
<v Speaker 2>in baseball, I think that's probably like a non particularly

1065
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.639
<v Speaker 2>hot take. I think there are probably are some some

1066
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:11.119
<v Speaker 2>other jacked and ripped sixty two year olds that can

1067
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:17.199
<v Speaker 2>easily put us both to shame. With you. No, it's

1068
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:21.400
<v Speaker 2>not saying much, but I'm saying within seconds will be

1069
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.800
<v Speaker 2>like we'll be crying on the floor in an arm

1070
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:30.679
<v Speaker 2>bar in like two seconds flat. So yeah, I think

1071
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.079
<v Speaker 2>if we're saying like the sixty two year old in baseball.

1072
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:34.920
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a one out of a one out of ten,

1073
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 2>but it's a as a sixty two year old you

1074
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:39.400
<v Speaker 2>probably don't want to meet in a in a bar fight.

1075
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 3>It's it's still probably up there as a two or

1076
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:42.480
<v Speaker 3>three out of ten.

1077
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll take it. Put some respect on my mom. Walt's name.

1078
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Cool.

1079
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I've got one one more than I think is spicy

1080
00:50:54.559 --> 00:51:02.440
<v Speaker 2>enough to discuss. I think case is Riano more finished

1081
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 2>top three in the sy Young, Like which is this?

1082
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:07.719
<v Speaker 3>This comes?

1083
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.239
<v Speaker 2>I had written this one down before we will get

1084
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>to a second. Weally ask some of our our listeners

1085
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:15.599
<v Speaker 2>in one of the chats to come up with some

1086
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.840
<v Speaker 2>of their own and Nick right Ara, resident Angels fan

1087
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.440
<v Speaker 2>was was up there saying that I think did he

1088
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.719
<v Speaker 2>say he was actually going to win it? Or he

1089
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.760
<v Speaker 2>said they actually win the sy Young So it can's

1090
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:28.800
<v Speaker 2>come a little bit further than I will. But like

1091
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:33.440
<v Speaker 2>he's three games in like twenty innings, pitched one run,

1092
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:34.960
<v Speaker 2>like conceded.

1093
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:36.920
<v Speaker 1>You know what, that's good?

1094
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Like it's not bad.

1095
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Like you're getting to the point where you're just kind

1096
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:44.480
<v Speaker 2>of like, okay, sixty six percent ground bor eight is

1097
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:51.599
<v Speaker 2>not like particularly sustainable, but like, okay, like we have

1098
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:54.039
<v Speaker 2>now tilted our heads to you and been like, you've

1099
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.320
<v Speaker 2>done ten percent of the season, and you're in a

1100
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 2>pretty stellar position after ten percent. So yeah, I think

1101
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:05.519
<v Speaker 2>I think he's uh, he's putting his name in in

1102
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:06.719
<v Speaker 2>in the hack pretty strongly.

1103
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I like it. He definitely deserves recognition, doesn't he. I

1104
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:12.599
<v Speaker 1>think he was good last year, but you you're average

1105
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:16.440
<v Speaker 1>fan myself included, probably didn't really care because he played

1106
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:19.119
<v Speaker 1>for the Angels and you know, the the I guess

1107
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>numbers that your eyes in me to gravitate to, like

1108
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.320
<v Speaker 1>ERA weren't amazing, so you kind of were like, well,

1109
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:26.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, who cares? But this year he's taken it

1110
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.679
<v Speaker 1>to another level. Obviously, strikeouts up, walks down, which again

1111
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:33.119
<v Speaker 1>to the pretty quick metrics to stabilize, and you know,

1112
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>is he going to have an ERA below one all year?

1113
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Probably not? But is he going to be legitimately an ace?

1114
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I think signs point to probably yes, and you know,

1115
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.239
<v Speaker 1>not just an ace in the angel sense, which you

1116
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:48.000
<v Speaker 1>know would just be someone with a working right arm.

1117
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:49.800
<v Speaker 1>So do I think he's gonna win some young no

1118
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:56.719
<v Speaker 1>or compete for it? Still probably no? But do I think, Yeah,

1119
00:52:56.719 --> 00:53:00.119
<v Speaker 1>do I think that this is a legitimate like maybe

1120
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 1>the number one starting pitcher? Kind of hard to argue

1121
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.159
<v Speaker 1>based on my results so far this year. And again

1122
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>it's another fun reason to have to tune into Angels

1123
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:12.159
<v Speaker 1>baseball because he throws hard, strikes guys out and is

1124
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:16.800
<v Speaker 1>really good. So so this is spicy, give it like

1125
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:18.480
<v Speaker 1>a seven. I mean, we see guys have good starts

1126
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:20.920
<v Speaker 1>every year, you know, and it just happens to be

1127
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Hosy this year and good for him, but always going

1128
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.559
<v Speaker 1>to take his one blow up start, and those numbers

1129
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 1>start to look a bit more, a bit more down

1130
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:29.199
<v Speaker 1>to earth, don't they.

1131
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well he's three and oh through three games. Think

1132
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 2>he's the only player.

1133
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:36.039
<v Speaker 1>So we're doing it about wins now while we rustle

1134
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:37.800
<v Speaker 1>tune has changed.

1135
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:46.639
<v Speaker 2>The difficulty more is Cam shit lerg Kevin Gausman, Taj

1136
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Bradley even obviously like Max Fried and Tighter and Derek

1137
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Schoolball have all looked particularly good. Not even to say

1138
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:59.360
<v Speaker 2>like Joe Ryan and Dylan Cees have all looked pretty

1139
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:02.639
<v Speaker 2>good as well. Yeah, good pictures in the aar on

1140
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.199
<v Speaker 2>the al side, I think you've had a lot of

1141
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of top pictures.

1142
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.280
<v Speaker 1>But no, I mean, look, I hope I'm proven wrong.

1143
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:14.840
<v Speaker 1>He's yeah, he's been awesome and yeah, he's definitely put

1144
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>his hand hat into contention early doors, and we'll see

1145
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:18.519
<v Speaker 1>if they continue to see I'll give that a I'll

1146
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:20.559
<v Speaker 1>give that a seven. One of my I've got two left.

1147
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>One of mine is related to one that we got

1148
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>in in the WhatsApp, so I'll save that and we

1149
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:25.880
<v Speaker 1>can talk about it then when we go through those

1150
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.840
<v Speaker 1>quickly so well, lots of one is related to the

1151
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.679
<v Speaker 1>newser came out. I want to say yesterday, which is

1152
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>that eight teams are going to have new City Connect

1153
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:39.000
<v Speaker 1>uniforms coming this year. And my hot take up, I

1154
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:41.159
<v Speaker 1>guess is kind of lukewarm if that when you think

1155
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:44.559
<v Speaker 1>about it, is that all eight are just good. They're

1156
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.119
<v Speaker 1>good uniforms, like Seey Connects. He's been around for a

1157
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:50.840
<v Speaker 1>little while. Now this is the fourth Yeah, I think

1158
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:54.639
<v Speaker 1>of of teams getting the uniforms, and they've obviously had

1159
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:56.320
<v Speaker 1>one version. Now we're kind of onto that the second

1160
00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:00.079
<v Speaker 1>round of teams getting follow up uniforms, and arguably it

1161
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.000
<v Speaker 1>could start to get a little bit stale because the

1162
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:04.679
<v Speaker 1>whole point of the City Connect was like a really cool,

1163
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:06.679
<v Speaker 1>unique uniform that connects a team with a city, and

1164
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:08.039
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like, well, once you've done it once

1165
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and then you try and do it again, does it

1166
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:12.119
<v Speaker 1>not make it not unique anymore? But I think they've

1167
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>they've nailed it on this occasion. You know. The Rangers

1168
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:18.199
<v Speaker 1>and Pirates ones I think are a bit boring, but

1169
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.000
<v Speaker 1>generally speaking would wear and that's just all you need

1170
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:24.400
<v Speaker 1>from a new spinoff uniform. They're all, you know, somewhat unique,

1171
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:26.440
<v Speaker 1>look cool. They're the kind of thing that you can

1172
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:29.880
<v Speaker 1>wear to a ball game but also just wear for fun,

1173
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.559
<v Speaker 1>which I think is always a good box at the

1174
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:35.079
<v Speaker 1>city connect uniform should tick. A lot of the hats

1175
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:37.519
<v Speaker 1>as well, are really fun, so you know, I'm sure.

1176
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:39.440
<v Speaker 1>And then, look, fashion is subjective. People going to call

1177
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:41.679
<v Speaker 1>me an idiot for liking some of them, but that's

1178
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>my view that they're all like really nice uniforms that

1179
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.840
<v Speaker 1>build off the original versions that each team had, and

1180
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:49.320
<v Speaker 1>so it's a tick from me.

1181
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 2>So I think I mostly agree with you. I fall

1182
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:58.159
<v Speaker 2>on the Cincinnati one as probably the one that like

1183
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:01.920
<v Speaker 2>just makes it not a complete It's a bit boring

1184
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:06.440
<v Speaker 2>in sweep of Okay, ones like to me like there's

1185
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 2>two things that I would like them really to do.

1186
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:12.480
<v Speaker 2>One basically is either you've got to go completely different

1187
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:15.320
<v Speaker 2>colors to like your normal things, to basically like bring

1188
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.280
<v Speaker 2>a different vibe, bring something in, kind of throw it

1189
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:22.760
<v Speaker 2>out there. Or it's got to like really show off

1190
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.679
<v Speaker 2>something kind of either specifical or unique about the city

1191
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:27.880
<v Speaker 2>that for some of all the places. Some as we

1192
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.480
<v Speaker 2>don't really know this, Like I know some people haven't

1193
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:33.719
<v Speaker 2>particularly liked the Boston ones, but I actually think the

1194
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Boston ones have been really good. The obviously the the

1195
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Marathon colors which they use with that yellow and blue

1196
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:41.280
<v Speaker 2>one to start off with, and then the green one

1197
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:42.960
<v Speaker 2>which is all around kind of like Fenway Park and

1198
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.199
<v Speaker 2>the Monster. I think they all really work. They're different

1199
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:47.639
<v Speaker 2>to kind of like what they normally are, but they

1200
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 2>also kind of tick that one off. You're wearing the

1201
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Rockies one like right now, which like if it was

1202
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:57.199
<v Speaker 2>just that top jersey, I would have loved the same

1203
00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:58.480
<v Speaker 2>reason why I'm going to have a go at like

1204
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 2>the Cincinnati one basically like colored pants, looks like college

1205
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:08.159
<v Speaker 2>or like company softball level sort of like look like

1206
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:08.599
<v Speaker 2>just the.

1207
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Police.

1208
00:57:11.119 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the city they've.

1209
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Gone basically just like full red, and I'm just like,

1210
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:17.679
<v Speaker 2>it's the one thing that I'm just like, it just

1211
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:19.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't work for me personally. And then you can say

1212
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:21.159
<v Speaker 2>that I think even a little bit about like the

1213
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Pirates one as well, going like going like full black.

1214
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:28.400
<v Speaker 3>It kind of it does give like the college feel.

1215
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:31.119
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying whether that's a good or a

1216
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:33.400
<v Speaker 2>bad thing, but like I think that kind of like

1217
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:37.519
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't quite work the same way for the Cincinnati one,

1218
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:41.320
<v Speaker 2>but like the rest, Like I actually quite like the

1219
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Texas one, Like it's a it feels like a it's

1220
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:47.119
<v Speaker 2>a it's a nod in a in a good direction

1221
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 2>when it's coming to things like Texas and everything else. Yeah,

1222
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Like the San Diego one is like, okay, cool, fine,

1223
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 2>it is what it is, Pirates one or maybe I

1224
00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>like the cap Okay, the font looks kind of cool,

1225
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:03.199
<v Speaker 2>but there isn't really anything that new one. It a

1226
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.559
<v Speaker 2>bit like they already have black jerseys that they only

1227
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:08.760
<v Speaker 2>seem to wear and Pol's games are playing and and

1228
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 2>and all of that stuff. We saw it in our

1229
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:15.320
<v Speaker 2>in discussions in our little chat group about whether what

1230
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:17.639
<v Speaker 2>is whisker and if it's actually anything to do with

1231
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:20.599
<v Speaker 2>like and it seems like it's a it's a phrase

1232
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 2>for the young uns, not not for a for as

1233
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:28.800
<v Speaker 2>older millennials or above. I actually really like the Royals one.

1234
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I saw it like a discussion about like where like

1235
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:36.400
<v Speaker 2>the specific colors come from, and like the stylization they

1236
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:38.519
<v Speaker 2>all like the Fountain City and stuff like that. Like

1237
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't wasn't too sold on it when it was

1238
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:43.079
<v Speaker 2>just like originally white, but kind of like actually kind

1239
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.039
<v Speaker 2>of seeing it and seeing like where it comes from,

1240
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.199
<v Speaker 2>like it does actually look quite nice, and I think

1241
00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:52.079
<v Speaker 2>the cap is actually like it's pretty nice. So as

1242
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 2>someone who was prepared to hate all of these, because

1243
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I'd thought that like most of the teams have basically

1244
00:58:57.320 --> 00:58:59.519
<v Speaker 2>there was a few hot ones to come out to

1245
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:01.920
<v Speaker 2>start out the blocks, but it got pretty kind of

1246
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 2>like tepid sense of like a lot of ones that

1247
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:07.280
<v Speaker 2>were just like the team colors, just with a slightly

1248
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:11.360
<v Speaker 2>different variation and a slightly different font and and all

1249
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:16.760
<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff. No, I think they're they're all, yeah,

1250
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:20.079
<v Speaker 2>they're all pretty good this year. So it's I think

1251
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it is a hot tape bend because I

1252
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:24.280
<v Speaker 2>know that people a lot of people don't like them.

1253
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I agree with your take, which.

1254
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna it's gonna come down, and like it's probably

1255
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:32.800
<v Speaker 2>only like a four out of ten, I think, because

1256
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:37.239
<v Speaker 2>like some people do like them. But yeah, I'll take

1257
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:40.760
<v Speaker 2>it cool. So, as we both kind of briefly mentioned,

1258
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:43.880
<v Speaker 2>we just have some takes from our listeners, so we're

1259
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<v Speaker 2>just gonna quickly jump through those.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, basically go through.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we'll start off with Jason, who's a much

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00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:58.440
<v Speaker 2>maligned Pirates fan. He said that a traffic cone is

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00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:02.199
<v Speaker 2>the Pirates single biggest sack of position since Lashes traded dabline.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've seen their kind of like celebration of scoring

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01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:09.199
<v Speaker 2>home runs, they basically just kind of like have taken

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01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:11.800
<v Speaker 2>a traffic cone from somewhere and that's now what they

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01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:15.920
<v Speaker 2>use for their home runs celebration. Love it, which is

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01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.960
<v Speaker 2>just like it has very student vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know university.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know how much it is a vibe

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<v Speaker 2>in the US compared to what it is a vibe

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<v Speaker 2>in the UK, But putting putting traffic ouns on statues

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01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:30.320
<v Speaker 2>is put parful of being a student. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this take the only thing I'll say, I

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01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't hear as part of it, you know, in some

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01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.199
<v Speaker 1>way belittle Rhino'hearn, who, by the way, is raking as

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01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:42.320
<v Speaker 1>a pilot so far. I don't know if his point

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01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:44.559
<v Speaker 1>was just that this carabricade is so valuable that not

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01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.800
<v Speaker 1>even the great Rhino Hearn can compete with him. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have no Rhino hernstander on this podcast. He's he's

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01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:52.119
<v Speaker 1>been unbelievable so far.

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01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've got from Tommy the Marlins fans out and

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01:00:57.920 --> 01:00:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Finn on the Denver Broncos.

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<v Speaker 3>Owner now is the.

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01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:04.079
<v Speaker 2>The Rockies, So the Rockies now have money to spend,

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<v Speaker 2>so time to trade attorney to cause. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>This one's a good take. Yeah, I see it happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this has to go on the hottiest of

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01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 2>hot takes because I don't think it's ever going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be good for your prediction about the most

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01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:22.960
<v Speaker 1>home runs. Of course, Field that pretty comfortably.

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01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Jed with his trademark elocution, has told us that the

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<v Speaker 2>Tigers are shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's a little bit early to jump

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<v Speaker 3>on that.

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<v Speaker 2>On that that point, but I think anybody who supports

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<v Speaker 2>a team in the ale central optimism is not a

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<v Speaker 2>is part of the course, so.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see how that one goes.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're pretty much kind of, I think, thrown away

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01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:54.800
<v Speaker 2>any major expectation that they're gonna run away with this

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01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:57.920
<v Speaker 2>division against the rest. And I think when I looked

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01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:00.760
<v Speaker 2>at Fangrass yesterday, it was predicting like eighty one or

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01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:03.800
<v Speaker 2>eighty two wins for the four teams that aren't the

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01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:06.679
<v Speaker 2>White Sox. So I still got a chance to get

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01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:09.000
<v Speaker 2>out on the division. But I don't think anything's looking good.

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01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:10.840
<v Speaker 1>But it'd be a fun race.

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Game is another one. Marlins will win the NL East.

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<v Speaker 1>Spicy, that's spicy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they've looked good so far this year, top

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<v Speaker 3>of the n Eleast right now. Mason Miller to win

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<v Speaker 3>the Cy Young.

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<v Speaker 1>So this one is related to one that I had, Yeah,

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01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.239
<v Speaker 1>which this is spicier than what I had. I say

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01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:34.920
<v Speaker 1>he is going to have the best relief pitcher season ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe that is just a spicy, but

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01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:40.440
<v Speaker 1>he has been un a leaf ball this year twenty

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01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:42.880
<v Speaker 1>seven and two third scoreless inning streak so far, which

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01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously stretches back to last year, and so far this

1321
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:48.840
<v Speaker 1>year he's faced twenty one hitters and he's struck out

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01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:54.239
<v Speaker 1>sixteen of them. That is obscene. Obviously he would keep

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01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:56.559
<v Speaker 1>that up all year. But I do like this take.

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01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I think cy Young might be out of reach, just

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01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:01.679
<v Speaker 1>because you have to be so good in sixty innings

1326
01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to be able to be out starters. But he's on

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01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:09.920
<v Speaker 1>pace to be like Peak Rivera meets Peak Chapman meets

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01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:14.639
<v Speaker 1>peak name another legendary relief pitcher. He's stilled unbelievable.

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01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's one of those ones where you're

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01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 2>just like, he's what he's gonna have to do is

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01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:24.199
<v Speaker 2>like a like fifty saves season to touch you say,

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01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:26.079
<v Speaker 2>it's less than one e r A and like one

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01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:29.400
<v Speaker 2>hundred and ten strikeouts, and maybe he's got a chance. Yeah,

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01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and especially when it's probably even seeing it right now

1335
01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:36.480
<v Speaker 2>that like Edwin Diaz already has four saves, un like

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01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:38.199
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have like the best.

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01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:41.239
<v Speaker 3>In that division and division.

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01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you're right. I save this one.

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01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:52.079
<v Speaker 2>We could have discussed it beforehand. Fraser, he's a Cardinals fan,

1340
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.760
<v Speaker 2>came through with Sandia cantra Is all the way back.

1341
01:03:56.719 --> 01:03:59.719
<v Speaker 2>There's a few saying that the Sandy would basically it's

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01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:02.320
<v Speaker 2>going to the cy young but the hot take part

1343
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:04.760
<v Speaker 2>of it is going to propel the Marlins to the playoffs.

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01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Another Marlin's playoff prediction. Okay, getting some steam, I mean,

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01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:12.159
<v Speaker 1>sounding has been great. I kind of assume they're going

1346
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:14.639
<v Speaker 1>to trade him at some point, but he's an awesome Jim.

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01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 1>He didn't get to get the chance to compete that

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01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.320
<v Speaker 1>compete any other night, but you never know.

1349
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jordan Walker as finally has his breakout in Cardinal's

1350
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Best Hitter of the Year.

1351
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I've made a bad joke about Jordan walk on the

1352
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Predictions Pod two, saying it was year twelve, people predicting

1353
01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:33.800
<v Speaker 1>he's going to break out, and he's breaking out and

1354
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:37.639
<v Speaker 1>he's still only like twenty three. He's still so young.

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01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I hold my hands up, Jordan Walker, I might have, Well.

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01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:43.599
<v Speaker 3>What's thefic?

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01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Get? Is it the smallest ample size? We've just finally

1358
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:47.360
<v Speaker 2>seen the few balls that he's hitting the air and

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01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:50.760
<v Speaker 2>not on the ground because he always absolute shit out

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01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:51.280
<v Speaker 2>a bit like.

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<v Speaker 3>One of those ones.

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01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:58.519
<v Speaker 1>But he's got five home runs in twelve games this year.

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01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:00.519
<v Speaker 1>He had six and one hundred and eleven last year.

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01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, not bad play, fair play, Pete with

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01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:11.280
<v Speaker 2>his obviously keeping his feet on the ground. Jazz traded

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01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:16.199
<v Speaker 2>back to the Marlins at the deadline. That's fun, Okay,

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01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:20.119
<v Speaker 2>predict Marlins in the playoffs. That might be the most

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01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:24.239
<v Speaker 2>shocking thing we've heard tonight. I don't really see that

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01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:27.400
<v Speaker 2>really happening with Jack the Yankees doing well, unless they're

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01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:29.360
<v Speaker 2>going to get a get something else out of it,

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01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:31.000
<v Speaker 2>which would probably be Sandy.

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<v Speaker 1>Jazz.

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01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:36.760
<v Speaker 3>He says, No, that's that Yankee's rotation really needs to.

1374
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Help Joe with his Joel Bailey, with his in one

1375
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:45.880
<v Speaker 2>of our fantasy groups, has constantly talked about the fact

1376
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:48.679
<v Speaker 2>that he's still arthuly surprised that Taylor Wolves has a

1377
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:51.199
<v Speaker 2>job and he has his hot takers, that he'll still

1378
01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:54.480
<v Speaker 2>have a job come comes September, even though he faughly

1379
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:57.360
<v Speaker 2>believes that he is the worst shortstop in in Tampa

1380
01:05:57.400 --> 01:05:58.000
<v Speaker 2>ray history.

1381
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I was about to say this isn't Taylor Walls base prediction,

1382
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:04.360
<v Speaker 1>then I refuse to believe it's come from Joel. So

1383
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that he's come through there.

1384
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with a few people asking him though that you

1385
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:09.960
<v Speaker 2>just said he was still in a job, So does

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01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.679
<v Speaker 2>counting that if he's driving for Uber count as still

1387
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:17.679
<v Speaker 2>being in a job in September, poor tailor Wolves and

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01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Sean was just joking on that the actual trade for

1389
01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:24.119
<v Speaker 2>the four Jazz will be for a bucket of balls

1390
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:30.280
<v Speaker 2>after he's been booed like Joey Gallo come July for jazz.

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01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Hot takes a bucket of balls worse than cash considerations,

1392
01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it has.

1393
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think we'll take cast considerations.

1394
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:42.679
<v Speaker 1>So there we have it.

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01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:46.119
<v Speaker 3>There are a quick fire hot takes from from the

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01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:50.960
<v Speaker 3>group out there. I think that there.

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01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I think the Marlins and Mason Miller winning the cy

1398
01:06:56.920 --> 01:06:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Young are probably the two Hartits takes.

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01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like those. There's a lot Mason millerf you

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01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:06.000
<v Speaker 1>never know. Well, there we have it. So what our

1401
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:07.840
<v Speaker 1>hottest one we got was you had a nine? Didn't you?

1402
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Which one did I give you a nine for? Was

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01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:16.719
<v Speaker 1>that the Kimodo? Yeah, o Kamoto, third best Japanese hit forever? Yeah,

1404
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I stand by that. That's that's nuclear.

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01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:22.840
<v Speaker 3>We didn't get.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't get down into the other stuff that i'd

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01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:28.880
<v Speaker 2>potentially like written down but didn't really look into too much.

1408
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:32.559
<v Speaker 2>To be like, is Peter Alonso going to propel Baltimore

1409
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:37.840
<v Speaker 2>to the to the playoffs, is we were finally seeing

1410
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:41.599
<v Speaker 2>the real jack lighter like it.

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01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:43.480
<v Speaker 1>We've got plenty of time.

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01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Kind of maybe you brunched on the Chicago White Sox

1413
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:47.440
<v Speaker 3>aren't actually that bad.

1414
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:52.639
<v Speaker 1>It's looking good at the moment. But look, as we

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01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:54.360
<v Speaker 1>mentioned at the top of the show, we are literally

1416
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:57.320
<v Speaker 1>ten to twelve games into the season, and if we

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01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:59.320
<v Speaker 1>don't look stupid by this time next week, we almost

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01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:01.280
<v Speaker 1>certainly will buy this next month. But good news is

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01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:03.360
<v Speaker 1>by then we'll have done, you know, two more podcasts

1420
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:07.039
<v Speaker 1>contraduting ourselves even further, so therefore making it impossible to,

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01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:09.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, prove that we ever even had that opinion

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01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:11.519
<v Speaker 1>in the first place. But thank you for listening to

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01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.199
<v Speaker 1>to tonight's podcast. We appreciate you jumping on, and we

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01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:15.280
<v Speaker 1>are going to try and be a little bit more

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01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:18.920
<v Speaker 1>consistent now getting out some new pods and content each

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01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:21.920
<v Speaker 1>week as a season rolls on. Keep an eye out

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01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:25.319
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01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:33.239
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<v Speaker 1>Balage and theirs website. I know Gavin the team are

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<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of hard work as usual keeping that

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01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:43.199
<v Speaker 1>updated with content with the start of the season underway.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do want to write for us, then let

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll leave it at that, Russell, thank you for

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01:08:56.479 --> 01:09:00.560
<v Speaker 1>joining me oh pleasure man as always, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>speak to you all very soon. Bye bye.