Speaker 1: Hey, fun time, peeps. My name is Chris Farah. Welcome
back to Vanity Farah, where today we're talking ninety day Fiance.
It's season twelve, it's episode eight. Love is a work
in progress. Okay, I mean yeah, that's true. Life is
a work in progress. This episode was interesting for sure,
and it's a Katie themed episode. Lots of I'm sure
chatter about her behavior and it's warranted. It's warranted chatter.
And at the same time, some people like Paula and
Thomas really don't have a lot going for them. I
am going to make my prediction now that the only
couple that should be together is Malory and Rashid, only one,
the only one that makes sense. Okay, But we're going
to start my babes with Edward and Marissa. So obviously
there's a lot of talk online about Edward doing some
like Sammy Sosa style skin bleaching. The Reddit streets have
been like, have you noticed that his face is significantly
wider than the rest of his body and in a
way that indicates that there is some sort of chemical
treatment happening. And you know, I have to probably hard
agree as well as say I don't have an expertise
about talking about this kind of stuff. And there's a
lot of parts of there's a lot of cultures that
you know, super prioritize skin color in that kind of way.
And it's interesting because I'm like American an Arab and
so I still come from a place where it's like
people want to be tanned, because yeah, I mean I
so it's interesting. It's just it feels very different from
what I'm trying to do, you know, just to be
a little tanner and then you know, like have like
an evenness, kind of a caramelness to my skin. It
makes me look better. So it's but you know, here
we are, Edward doesn't feel that way. Edward's seemingly bleaching
his skin. He doesn't have to. In fact, he shouldn't.
And I don't know the process of skin bleaching enough
to be like if he just stopped, now, would his
skin you know, exfoliate, regenerate, and would it come back
the way it was? Does? He just like, you know,
can you do that anyway? Okay, So this was a
hard walk. Sorry, this was a hard watch. Let's bring
it up. So he feels like he has nothing to
do and he wants to be useful, and she certainly
wants him to be useful, and she's mad when he
doesn't do anything and mad when he does do something,
and so he's like, I gotta do things, okay. And
then he's like, well, since I can't make any money,
I'm just going to try and do things around her
house that she would normally pay for, and I'll get
it done. And we're like, oh, okay, you know, and
he seemingly knows his way around a hammer and some nails.
We're like, oh, okay, cool. And he is fixing the
fence and he says that the person that previously fixed
the fence was an imbecile, and we're like, oh okay, Edward, good,
you have like wherewithal about fixing fences. You can like
see what's good work and what's not good work. We're like,
oh great, this is this is hopefully a good thing.
So he does fix it, and then he brings her out,
and then he fixed it biden by making it so
you can't open the fence, which is not fixing it.
And we're assuming that he would know that this very bossy,
particular woman that he is fucking would want something done
a certain way. We can pick that up, and we're like, Okay,
this is your valiant effort to do that. Marissa looks
at it asks him why I won't be able to
be open. He says, that's how he fixed it. She
is unimpressed by that answer, and she also is upset
because she keeps giving him excuses like what if the
gardeners need to come in through that? What if this
needs to happen, He's like, just come through the airway.
It's decidedly a different point of view on how to
do things. It's like, you have to be taught to
do something well, and you have to want to do
something well, and you want to be able to be
on the same wavelength of what But it looks like
to accomplish something that you know truly benefits all Because
I would hazard that he worked this whole time to
fix this gate when he didn't fix it, So like,
why did he even put that much effort into something
if it wasn't going to be fixed? Because if he
was like, look, I tried to fix it and then
I realized I can't because your wood's dilapidated or this
or that, Like it would have been better for him
to tell her why it was too difficult, as opposed
to saying the last person that fixed it was an imbecile,
and then you say you fixed it, but you didn't
fix it. So then they go to the other fence
and she's like, Okay, well what'd you do here? And
he really just got border would or whatnot, like a
banister that she didn't need to use or I guess
was extra, and he just slapped it across the front
of the fence haphazardly. And as much as I'm on
his side, you know, with how mean she is and
how like controlling she is, when I saw his workmanship,
I was like, oh, no, Edward, No that's not good enough. No,
I mean, that's just not good enough. I feel bad
to say that, and like maybe we just have to, like,
you know, reshape some viewpoints. But if you say you're
going to do something and it looks that shoddy, and
you know it does, then you have to be honest
about it, because I don't know if I can trust
you for other things. Yeah, it's definitely a missmash of
different woods. It definitely doesn't look good. And at the
same time, I would need to know what work he's
done before, because we only know Edward as someone who
is like a vivacious activities like you know, sorry, activities
host at like a hotel or something. I mean to me,
this person has to like, you know, should get like
a karaoke job or something like that. He has to
be someone having, you know, a good time and also
making sure other people have a good time around him.
But Marissa is unimpressed, like I said, and she's upset
by this, and we like know she's going to be
And I don't quite understand how Edward thought that this
was going to be okay. Knowing this kind of woman.
He says that she's a lot different in America than
she was in the dr And it's like, yeah, you
guys were staying in the lap of luxury, and if
she wanted to complain, she could to someone she was paying,
and then you just got to be there while she complained,
you know, like it was never about you, It was
about whatever her eggs that morning. She of course keeps
saying that she is wondering whether she's taking on another
child in this life, that she wants him to be
like a strong man, that she wants him to be
self sufficient, and you know, I understand where she's coming from.
But I wonder what it was like when she was
with him outside of the resort, because assumingly she went
to the dr and then spent some time like away
from the resort, like in his daily life. And what
did she see there that made her think that this
was a possibility for him. Was he holding down, you know,
like his mom's household in such a way that she
was like, Oh, this person knows how to take care
of people and himself. I don't know. Oh, she is like,
this fence looks trashy and the neighbors are going to
think that I'm poor. And he's like, who cares? They
don't pay the bills, And she's like, right, I do,
and I'm gonna tell you right now, you're gonna have
to pay another bill, and the bill is going to
be for a fence person to come fix all this. Also,
can you please pay a bill at like a pottery
barn for some serve wear? Marissa is very interesting. Yeah.
I whether she just believed him that he was going
to go outside with like one makita and one hammer
and get all this done, you know, I don't know,
or if she knew that he was going to do
a shitty job, a shoddy job, and was like, Okay,
let's put this on TV. She is right though, that
it doesn't look good and that if this was my home,
I also would be like, no, no, We're going to
have to find you something else you can do around
the home. Listen, he wants to cook, he wants to
and I feel like, maybe just let him cook, like gorilla,
let him cook. You know, he also wants to take
care of the kids and be around the kids. But like, yeah,
I think that she really wants him to have a
skill or trade that makes him feel confident that he
can like do, and or for him to know what's
in her mind at all times and what she expects,
because I'm assuming that she knows that there might not
be extra wood that perfectly matches her fence in her garage.
So where does she think that he was going to
get the extra wood? Like from like, because it doesn't
feel like she took him to home depot for this job.
It seemingly seems like she should have, like she if
she had taken to home depot and then just being
like here by this would so that you know, you
can all the fence could be the exact same or
you know, patched in some way that would have been better.
I don't know if she was just testing him to
see if he can get this done to her liking,
and then he failed that test. He's like, she's always
cutting me down. I'm like, well, yes, but about the fence,
she's right, and now she has to cut down the
whole fence. After she sees the fence, she's like, and
can you clean this up? And there's like a big,
like dirty black wicker table and chair set. I want
to be like, where did that come from? And why
does he have to clean that up? Yeah, he feels
like he is just trying to, you know, appease her
in whatever way possible, and it like is a knowing
for him because he can't even have loud face times
with his family anymore, and that brings his spirits up.
So the next shot is that they're driving to New
York because she has to go back to work. We're like, okay,
you know, and when you're your two day a week job,
you know when or why she got fired? I'm not
quite sure. Okay, but it's good news because she's eating
a gram cracker and Graham crackers are great, and he's like,
I don't want a gram cracker. Those are stupid. She's like, okay,
but they're good. And so then he has a gram
cracker and he's like, yeah, you know what, You're right,
Graham Crackers are great, really great crackers. I enjoy them.
They're almost like American digestives. Okay, he's going to be
in New York all by himself, and he is excited.
In fact, he keeps saying that he's going to be free,
which is an interesting word to say because it's like
if I was going to go to a major, beautiful
city for the first time that I've always wanted to
be in, my first thought was, oh, I'll be free here.
My first thought would be like, oh, I can't wait
to explore or see this or whatnot. But like, yeah,
his first and foremost is that he gets to be
free from her, from her like judgment, whatnot. And then
what happened was he doesn't have credit cards, like we know,
because he's not an American citizen, Like, you know, he
doesn't why would he have, you know, I'm a full
on like Chase Sapphire. But this is a weird conversation
where she's like, okay, well, then how are you gonna
get around? He's like, I have a couple hundred dollars bills,
but he left them at the house. So she's like, okay, well,
how are you going to pay for things in New
York then? And we're just supposed to believe that he
walks around as an adult male without any sort of
wallet accouterments. He says he doesn't have a wallet, which
is like, okay, funny, you don't have a wallet, but
do you have the things that are in a wallet? Cash?
He's credit card and I'm sorry, idea of some kind
or like paperwork passport he should be, you know, god
bless having some sort of passport around him and or
like a photo slash copy of a passport. He doesn't, though,
he doesn't have his cash on him, and that gives
her pause, and it, unfortunately also gives me pause because
he is an older gentleman. This is not like a
twenty three year old. This is someone who walks around
all the time. And maybe he's like, I don't need
cash where I am most of the time, but we
have to assume that he has the wherewithal to know
that in New York City, you need stuff? Was he
just not gonna eat all day? Did he expect her
to give him like a twenty? Like? Is he like
Alison da Shay, like I'm gonna get ten dollars or
the Biscuits or my family? She says, they live very
different lifestyles. We know, but we thought you already understood this.
She definitely talked about and is right that they are
different people. But I still don't know where and where
she feels like he wins Immerius's mind. What are the
heroic acts that Edward does that makes her like fall
in love with him. I'm not saying that like every
female has to look at a man and be like
he's a hero, but like, there are things when you
like someone that you feel like in dear them to you.
And it usually is like ways in which they succeed
in areas of their lives. And it can be like
when I say succeed, it can be like and how
kind and compassionate they are to people in how they
connect with people, and you know the way that they
do this one talented thing, the way they play guitar,
the way that they you know, it's like, what are
the things that he does that she looks at and like,
you know, when she's in witness of She's like, oh
my god, yes he did it. He is awesome. It
can't just be having sex with her, and if it is,
that's not good enough and why wouldn't she know that? Okay,
so she's just like, I don't have bandwidth more so
than in the crazy parts of my day to be
able to take care of you as well. And he's like,
what I mean when you say that you're choosing your life.
You're a grown hoss woman. So if you don't have bandwidth,
that's on you for doing too much. And she he
does not like this answer, because in her mind, she
wants him to be like, maybe, don't worry. I'm not
going to cause too much strain on you. I'm going
to step up and take this off your play and
take that off your play. You don't have to worry
about me. I know how to bring cash around and
move in this world. And that's what she wants him
to say, but what he hears is like a spoiled
brat complaining about her life that she chooses to live
every day. He's like, if you don't want this job,
let's go get some miniatures and you can manifest a
new job. Okay, it doesn't look good for them, it
truly doesn't. I mean it. Also, I think that this
is how I choose whether I like a couple. Could
I spend time with them, like over dinner, like would
I be like charmed by them in a soul setting?
And you know, with them Marissa and Edward, I truly wouldn't.
I wouldn't want to hear her talk to him or
put him down. I wouldn't want to see him roll
his eyes because he knows that she like is too much.
I wouldn't want to see you know, him do something
he thinks he does well and in fact it's not
at least up to snuff for her. And I can
recognize that, you know what I'm saying. Whereas like you would,
I mean, I would be so happy to have a
meal with Rashid. He's so funny to me. Okay, let's
move on. Okay, Katie and Josh, so he's like outside
with her and Ryan. And Ryan has just dropped that
he talks to Katie and he's here because he knows
that she is dealing with whatever she's going to want
in her life and Josh is like, well, what we're
doing is we're going to get married, and Katie is like,
I think so, which is a bad sign. Then Katie
admits that she is the problem. She says it like
I'm the problem. He's like, well, no, I think it's
fifty to fifty. We're like, okay, you know. It's like, Josh,
your problem is you don't stand up for yourself or
assert your boundaries. But it's I mean, if that's your problem,
you don't respect yourself or the way that you want
to be treated enough to demand it low key in
a relationship. He's like, Josh to Ryan's like, why are
you here? And I told you I never wanted to
see you again. And Ryan's like, well, Katie is hard
to say no to that crazy bitch. She's so funny,
she's so great, she's so charming, she's so eccentric. He
can't say no to her, especially when you're drunk, and
especially when you want to get kissed as well and more,
and you have a drunk Katie being like, man, I
can't say no, no, I say no to you. I
won't say no to her. Josh takes this moment to
blame Ryan for the Katie cheating situation. He's like, you
knew we were together and you did the things anyway.
Katie's just there in the middle being like, yeah, he
did the things anyway. See, like, I hate when people
seemingly blame the person that their lover cheated with instead
of their lover. Like I think it's a moot point
to even talk to Ryan. But also I feel like
you see this a lot, you know, ladies doing like
you know, it's kind of like the Debbie getting mad
at Meadows social media co star and one post where
she's like, fuck that bitch, but you're just like, Nope,
that's exactly what you should be saying to Meto. You know.
By the way, we don't have any Meto this episode,
which was devastating. I mean, I think that's what made
it not a great episode. Okay, anyway, So Katie's like,
you don't have to worry about Ryan. We're just like
chill friends now, which is so like Generation Z or whatever.
We're just chill friends now. We're just chill friends as
supposed to fuck friends. So this talk ends with absolutely
no resolution, except now Josh and Katie are standing side
by side and she's like do you think I can
make out with everyone we know? And he's like no,
and she's clearly drunk and she's like, I've only had
one tequila and that's not true. And then she's like
I want an espresso martini and he's like, how about
walk her? And she's not happy with that answer, so
she floats over to her other friends and then immediately
does like we can only be described as like a
weird full backbend to get at her friend's faces. No,
I find it. Sorry, it's oh I thought I have
a better picture. Okay, sorry. Anyway, Basically what happened was
she gets back and starts talking with Ryan, and I
mean after he had his confrontation with Josh, she tries
to make out with Ryan. Ryan's like stop it, don't
do it. And then Josh watches that happen, and then
her other friend walks outside and is like, hey, Josh,
what's your take on what's happening in there? And he
asks this question we know. The producers are like, you
need to go ask Josh a question because Josh has
no friends, so they need someone to do this leg work,
and this man's going to do it. And this is
the most produci producer led question, and the problem is
you should give this guy like a little bit of
a soft intro, like, hey, hey Josh, how are you man? Yeah,
how's it been going? You get that table? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
well you look nice. This is nice jacket. Yeah yeah.
I just wanted to see, like how you're doing. Man.
I know she's she's already you know, having fun in there.
And then Josh is like, you saw that, and the
guy's like, yeah, I saw, but what what are you thinking?
You know, like that's the intro. You need to not
have an abrupt Hey, Josh, what's your take on what's
happening in there? What's your take? That's just so hosty. Meanwhile,
her take is that she's like I am in normal mode,
just kidding. I want to be in a crazy mode.
She's like, you know, fully running around. This guy talks
to Josh and he's like, you need to be respected
and at some point you got to put your foot down.
And Josh was like, well, you know, she's just so
good at one in back hearts. I don't know what
my problem is. It's either my timidness or it's britishness.
And we're like mm m I guess I don't know
if this guy. I think everyone's name is Ryan here
and I wrote down I know Ryan's the other guy,
and maybe this guy's name Ryan too. I think there's
too many Ryan's. I forgot what this guy's name outside,
But it's not the first Ryan, not the Ryan that
she made out with that in Boston. But this other
guy is like, Josh is not a manly man, is
what he says? Yeah, that's true. And then she goes
in and tries to make out with that guy and
he's like nope, and he's like pushing her face. He's like, no, Katie,
stop it, and she's like, what am I doing wrong?
And Josh walks up and he like sees that, and
she's like what I mean. This is one of the
more bizarre scenes to witness, and it feels violating for
us to watch it because we're either watching someone like
in a psychosis or super hard dealing with OCD. But
at the same time, she just keeps telling people that
this is a problem, but then it keeps happening and
no one seems to be able to do anything or
help her through it. But also it's because she doesn't
want to be helped through it. Like it doesn't seemingly
seem like she wants to not be in a situation
where she's drunk making out with people. It very much
seems like she wants to be in a situation where
she's drunk and has the like the excuse of alcohol
to lessen her inhibitions and therefore make out with all
the people and therefore feel the love and validation she
really wants to feel. It's kind of like, and this
is what's shitty about it. It's like someone on a
season just being like, I'm an addict, I'm an addict,
I'm an addict. And then what we keep watching is
this person go score their drugs and then shoot up
on camera over and over again. It's like intervention, I
guess in that way. But it's a really hard watch because,
you know, I think that it leads us with a
bunch of questions like where is her psychologist? And does
does she actually want help? Because she's cognitively, you know,
able to understand her situation, but she's so defensive and
she keeps putting herself in this situation and no one's
helping her, and it's because they know she doesn't want
help or she would get mad that like, we just
keep watching it. It's so awkward. You would neither need
her to just be like, you know what, I want
to be single obviously, and then you can follow me
on single life where I'm single and making out with
all the people I want to and that's what's happening.
Because I probably would watch that. I would watch it
like it's only awkward for me in that she says
that this is a problem and you know, and she's
acknowledging it, and then she just won't fix it. But
if she's like this is where I am. I'm a
young girl and a guys fucking love me, and I like,
you know, having fun in Portland and drinking, and this
is what I want to do, it like, well, okay,
because if you took away like the OCD and you
took away that you were just like this girl likes
getting drunk and making out with people. It's not so
different from what other people are doing her age. They
just don't think it's a problem. Like a lot of
young kids live in cities and go out at night
and like hook up with people. What makes it awkward
is that she's like and I'm in a committed relationship
with this dufist who really wants this relationship, and he
refuses to tell me that it's that it's hurting him.
That's the only annoying thing about watching the story. And
I'm also like annoyed because she gets a lot of
hate online and I get why. I get why, But
at the same time, I'm like, she's doing herself no favors,
but neither is Debbie. You know, for all of the
Meto hate online, Debbie has done absolutely no favors for
herself by continually allowing it. Debbie is the Josh where
we just see their other uh choosing to do harm
and they're like willing to put up with it. Like
if Mito was just an obnoxious person that wanted to
be an actor and had you know, foolish, delusional dreams,
and we could just watch this person try and make
it in Louisiana as opposed to La like, it would
be like hilarious, right, and he'd be like prancing around
and like you know, taking an acting class, and we'd
be like, oh, this ridiculous person. Like it would be
a little more lighthearted, except what makes it dark is
that this person is using Debbie and like lying to
her and this Debbie's getting so upset about it. Like
that's what makes it a real toxic situation that those
that are my thoughts, Those are my thoughts about that.
But you know what I mean. Okay, let's talk about
Paula and Thomas. So she has been ordering more miniatures
and he finds them to be a waste of time
and a waste of cash, and she's like, they're my
religion and sometimes I cry when I think about how
much I love them. And he's like, oh my god.
She's gotten a bunch of packages recently, and so they
open one up and it's like a mini couch and
she's like, I love it. He's like, how much was this?
And she's like I got it on clearance, which is hilarious.
It's something I would say too. She's like, I want
a couch. So if you don't want me to have this,
buy me a couch. It makes sense for her to
want furniture, just like it makes sense for Josh to
want furniture. People want to live in a space that
looks and feels livable, and I don't think it's too
much to ask if Tom miss can afford to get
her a credit card, to just get her a fucking
couch set. You can just go to living Space, as Josh,
you know what I'm saying, and get that done. Er
Ashley's furniture. I mean, get a Memorial Day sale or something, Honey,
go to Costco. By the way, it's so funny because
he's complaining right about money to her and says that
all her things that she buys are like so stupid
and you know, it's not necessary. And then he at
one point he sits down to three different huge ass
monitors with like two different Rubik's cubes and they, you know,
censor the screen so we can't see, but it's very
obvious that he's playing some weird game. We're like, oh,
that's what you spend your money on. Okay, He's like,
it's my money. I don't know, I don't know why
he's arguing with me in my head. So the good
news is Paala has met two other Brazilians that live
in the same building, Felix and Anderson. And Felix and
Ander center are two cute gay guys that wear navy
and have an apartment that they put a lot of
time and energy to decorate, although it looks just kind
of like the apartment that this building uses to sell
other apartments. It's like a show piece apartment. All of
their apartment has like modern furniture with an emphasis on shape.
Some are just like planters on a square, and then
there's a lot of circles happening. It's just like a shapely, geometric,
modern kind of industrial looking apartment and it's not really
real looking. But she, you know, goes in. She's like,
I loved things that look staged. And she's like, see
how you have furniture that's not what's happening in his apartment.
He has nothing on the walls, there's no sconces to
be had. He won't even get a rug, honey, he
won't get a rug. And these two gay guys are like,
absolutely fucking not, that's crazy, and you know they're right
at the same time they're right, of course, It's like,
I don't understand at this point why they're not like,
have him pay us and will decorate for him. I
feel like sometimes people just don't know how to decorate.
I also just you know, here's a thing. Money is money,
and it's annoying to spend but it's funny how when
you see what someone can do with a better eye
than you, you might not appreciate it at first, but
then as you like accustom or acclimate your eye to
their design choices, you'll start to see design choices in
life that other people do, and then you can, I mean,
really appreciate. For instance, you may go through your life
and be like, I never need a clothing stylist, not necessary.
I know what I like, I know what I want
to wear whatever, God bless, I have good tapes people
like what I wear. But the minute, if you do
ever have like someone who truly knows style and like fashion,
and like who works in it in such a way
actually style you and actually like consider your body shape
and tailor things. It's such a radically different experience, and
it takes like a month after it happens for you
to or at least for me, to see in the
world how this manifests, how much better you look and
feel in pictures when you're wearing those garments, and how
you can see how other people who are styled or
styled in such a way, how it does look better.
It's almost like the details you don't see, but the
same thing with an apartment or a home. Like if
you think, you know, like you did a good job,
and then you go into a space that has had
an in tailor designer, you're like, oh, wallpaper okay, and
this there's so many just different aspects that can really
make a place look put fucking together that you just
might not be, you know, accessible, like in your mind's eye,
in your eye of like see things. I can be
quite blind. I'm really talking about myself. I can be
quite blind and think that something is good enough or
whatnot until I see a professional do it and I'm like, oh,
oh yeah, it's hard though. It's hard to like no
when want to spend money or whatever. So then they
decide to do like a little outdoorsy warzy moment and
they're skating. By the way, Paul I can skateboard, and
I was so happy for her. If they're like in
Venice or something, it looks real beach like, you know,
like palm trees. He has like roller blades on. You know,
it's quintessential. I've never been able to move, I've never
been able to skate. I can't imagine being able to
put on roller blades and just getting to a different place.
It must be so freeing. But I, yeah, my body
on wheels feels like I'm about to fall and hurt
mysel health, and that'd be great. He is eternally upset
that she isn't more appreciative of what he's done and
what he's spent. He's like, I did the entire visa process,
I printed everything out, I paid for everything. I gave
her this credit card. She doesn't care. She just wants furniture,
and her viewpoint is I just want what I had
in Brazil. And this is the crux of their segment
and all of their segments. It's interesting how unwatchable they are.
Like I barely can tolerate them. I mean, I would
fast forward them if I wasn't doing this podcast. The
only times I fast for people is when they're like
truly toxic or negative. And these people are just boring.
They're just boring. Yeah, I really would like just a
little more fun with them. I would like a little
I would enjoy someone telling me what the fuck is
up with what's going to happen in their storyline or
why no fiance thought they were like watchable this whole time? Okay,
my loves. There ends part one of this recap, and
I'm going to go on to talk about Mallory and
Rasheet and I still have Aisha and Malcolm, and I
still have Shay and Annabel. So thank you guys so
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