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Speaker 1: I do appreciate that. So we are back. We're here.
Speaker 1: It's exciting. I am happy to be here. I feel energized.
Speaker 1: I feel pretty well rested here. That's always a good thing.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's it's hard to know where to begin.
Speaker 1: There's so many different things happening all at once, but
Speaker 1: really it's one big story happening and overhanging all of
Speaker 1: the drama, all of the distractions, all the things that
Speaker 1: were worked up and directed towards. Our attention is constantly
Speaker 1: being directed in all sorts of directions, which is fascinating
Speaker 1: to pick apart the untold numbers of propaganda campaigns that
Speaker 1: are assaulting us at all hours of the day, even
Speaker 1: while we sleep, Even while even while you sleep, they
Speaker 1: will find you acting on your best behavior. Right, Everybody
Speaker 1: wants to rule the world, and the way that they
Speaker 1: do it is by crafting these clever little narratives that
Speaker 1: play to the fancies of public discourse and the tastes
Speaker 1: of the average person, the tastes that we're supposed to have,
Speaker 1: the tastes that so often we've been programmed with, the
Speaker 1: ideas have already been implanted into us by various methods
Speaker 1: through our upbringing and existence in this bizarre, artificial world
Speaker 1: that we have no real control or say over. We
Speaker 1: didn't ask for the world to be this way, and
Speaker 1: now that we're in it, we have very little recourse
Speaker 1: in changing it. Because it's a giant behemoth that's running
Speaker 1: on its own energy, and it has its own agendas,
Speaker 1: and it does its own thing, and that can be
Speaker 1: quite frustrating and difficult. It can be disempowering to know
Speaker 1: that it is a reality. It is a truth that
Speaker 1: we live in a world like that giant artificial machine
Speaker 1: that has its way with us. And we like to
Speaker 1: pretend like we're in control, but we're not. But I
Speaker 1: think actual freedom and actual self actualization and anything valuable,
Speaker 1: any little bit of anything valuable we can actually take.
Speaker 1: I think starts with surrendering to the fact that this
Speaker 1: whole thing is out of control. It is above and
Speaker 1: beyond us. We are within it. It dictates a lot
Speaker 1: of our life. However, we can go outside of it
Speaker 1: and beyond it to to our own ends, to our
Speaker 1: own purposes, in our own lives. We can do certain things,
Speaker 1: and we can we can have a meaningful existence in
Speaker 1: the midst of this.
Speaker 2: And maybe.
Speaker 1: Have fun and the knowledge of knowing how crazy everything
Speaker 1: is and making the absurd decision not to take everything
Speaker 1: so seriously all the time, learning to let go so
Speaker 1: just of so many different things that we just can't control.
Speaker 1: It's okay, It's all right. Easier said than done, though, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm here talking a big game, and I don't.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 1: This is everybody's battle. We're all in the same boat.
Speaker 1: We're all dealing with the same things. So there is,
Speaker 1: there is, and there can be a sense of solidarity,
Speaker 1: I think, in the human condition itself, and that we
Speaker 1: do still retain that we are still basic, basically the
Speaker 1: same biological organisms, human beings, living out finite short lives,
Speaker 1: relatively short, but relatively long. It is a very extremely
Speaker 1: relative thing. Our entire existence and time. One way you
Speaker 1: look at it, we are. The amount of time we
Speaker 1: spend here is absolutely nothing. If you go from the
Speaker 1: macrocosmic view and you go outwards and look in. If
Speaker 1: you go the further, you go out and look in
Speaker 1: toward the earth and at us, you see how tiny
Speaker 1: and how short, and how we are really a piece
Speaker 1: of nothing in that grand scheme of things. However, you
Speaker 1: can go the opposite direction, in the same abstract, ethereal
Speaker 1: immaterial space that is our own minds and our own
Speaker 1: conscious awareness. You can go the other direction inside and
Speaker 1: you can see even the workings of your mind, your psyche,
Speaker 1: your soul or whatever, right, whatever, however we want to
Speaker 1: describe what that identity of our inner selves is, it's
Speaker 1: definitely there. It's definitely a real thing, and what it
Speaker 1: is able to do the sorts of you know, the
Speaker 1: the attainment of an epiphany. I hope you've all experienced
Speaker 1: this at some point in your life, hopefully several and
Speaker 1: many times in your life you've had this happen. A
Speaker 1: life without such experience would be a life not ourselving.
Speaker 1: But such is the sort of thing that I think
Speaker 1: is constantly being stolen from us. But anyway, the attainment
Speaker 1: of such things gives you the realization that within an instant,
Speaker 1: time loses meaning, and realizations made by your individual conscious
Speaker 1: aware of self can have ramifications that are so far
Speaker 1: reaching that you've attained something that transcends time, something that's
Speaker 1: a permanent.
Speaker 2: Truth. Right, So the attainment of.
Speaker 1: That, when you pull that sort of thing off, you
Speaker 1: realize you have interesting epiphanies about the human experience. Once again,
Speaker 1: going all the way within, all the way within, all
Speaker 1: the way without are useful. I think it's also useful
Speaker 1: an epiphany to be had to see how short and
Speaker 1: how insignificant we are. But simultaneously, how in the matter
Speaker 1: of one second you can experience an eternity. These are
Speaker 1: things that we're able to do. Meanwhile, our focus has
Speaker 1: been redirected, as I was saying earlier, to more important things,
Speaker 1: the daily business of living life. Whatever that even means anymore,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really mean much of anything. The meaning of
Speaker 1: our lives has been stripped away from us so many fronts,
Speaker 1: these sorts of things. Our attention has been. What we
Speaker 1: have given attention to is usually inconsequential, but blown up
Speaker 1: into such a big deal that we're supposed to think
Speaker 1: it means everything. And so with that little preface, I
Speaker 1: will return to a subject I talked about on the
Speaker 1: last show, being this election that we're in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four presidential election. But it's there's other elections going on.
Speaker 1: I hope you've done your research on the local propositions
Speaker 1: that you may be voting on this time around.
Speaker 2: So and there was.
Speaker 1: A point that I think I made last week, but
Speaker 1: maybe I didn't. So I'm going to return to It
Speaker 1: is that con that has been drilled into our heads
Speaker 1: that this is the last election that America is going
Speaker 1: to have.
Speaker 2: This is the end of the.
Speaker 1: Democratic process of voting as we know it. That general
Speaker 1: concept has been put out across all channels from what
Speaker 1: I gather, every It doesn't matter what your political persuasion is,
Speaker 1: you have been told this by the appropriate authorities. They
Speaker 1: have told you that this is the case. So my
Speaker 1: guess is that you're in agreement with this general statement.
Speaker 1: Now that's not to say that you can't spin that
Speaker 1: general sentiment in any which direction into whatever your political
Speaker 1: pre elections happen to be. Just insert those onto that
Speaker 1: general idea. That's how things work here, that's how our
Speaker 1: democracy has worked for so long. Is in the cynical
Speaker 1: way is that you just played to the political base
Speaker 1: of these two parties. But even that is starting to
Speaker 1: fall apart, right, So the world that we knew, that
Speaker 1: so many took for granted is beginning to crumble tear
Speaker 1: part if the seems right, and everybody's freaking out about this.
Speaker 2: Everybody's upset about this.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's illegitimate that the freaking out over
Speaker 1: these things happening. And regular listeners to the show know
Speaker 1: that I take seriously what's happening here in the country
Speaker 1: and the world, and yes, with this election, I do
Speaker 1: think it is consequential, but it's it's pretty wild to
Speaker 1: see just this general idea that this is the last election,
Speaker 1: that the voting system is broken one way or another,
Speaker 1: and we're seeing all sorts of interesting examples of that
Speaker 1: concept coming in now it is beginning to become common
Speaker 1: knowledge that that we're in for trouble here on November fifth.
Speaker 1: I think we all realized that November fifth is going
Speaker 1: to come. The results are going to come in. Somebody's
Speaker 1: going to be cleared the official winner, right, one of
Speaker 1: the two of them. One of them is going to
Speaker 1: be the official winner. But at that point the election
Speaker 1: clearly is not over because there will be contention from
Speaker 1: the other side saying, hey, look, this election wasn't fair
Speaker 1: because and then in certain the reasons given whoever the candidate,
Speaker 1: whoever the candidates are a winner and loser. It's pretty
Speaker 1: crazy to think. It's pretty wild, and yeah, it's going
Speaker 1: to be a mess. My gosh, it's going to be
Speaker 1: a mess, So get ready for that. It's a foregone
Speaker 1: conclusion as far as I'm concerned, that that is going
Speaker 1: to be the outcome, but how that plays out will
Speaker 1: be interesting, will be significant. I'll say once again, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to downplay any of this. I think this
Speaker 1: is all serious, and even with my preface at the
Speaker 1: beginning that this is all just a bunch of bs
Speaker 1: that we're forced to live through which ultimately is the truth.
Speaker 1: We're still we're still being put through the ringer on
Speaker 1: this one, and it's does not bode well for our
Speaker 1: collective future for sure. So we'll just see how that goes.
Speaker 1: But certainly, those of us who have been around the
Speaker 1: block for a while now and have been looking into
Speaker 1: the different corners of hidden knowledge that we're not supposed
Speaker 1: to be looking at, none of this should come as
Speaker 1: a surprise like a Stone election. Yes, of course, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a whole lot of so wet. It's a whole
Speaker 1: lot of shrugging the shoulders. A corrupt system, Yes, we've
Speaker 1: had one for quite some time.
Speaker 2: Is it getting worse? Of course it is.
Speaker 1: It's designed to be that way, these sorts of concepts.
Speaker 1: It is significant that that general sentiment is no longer fringe,
Speaker 1: but rather mainstream. I would say that that is actually true.
Speaker 1: That's just this discontent for the system, the American system,
Speaker 1: political system, social economic reality that we're dealing with here
Speaker 1: in our country. Nobody's happy with it, and there's very
Speaker 1: real reasons as to why that is now taking a
Speaker 1: step back once again, it's important to realize that the
Speaker 1: not that complicated reasons as to what's going on here,
Speaker 1: are often obscured by all this window dressing once again
Speaker 1: from the multitude of propaganda campaigns that are just barraging
Speaker 1: us now. So no one should be faulted for having
Speaker 1: difficulty in the face of all this and for being misled.
Speaker 1: We all have been misled over and over time and
Speaker 1: again happens to every single one of us. And once again,
Speaker 1: the cognitive dissonance or just the general lethargy that ensues
Speaker 1: after pursuing all these false avenues, it just gets to
Speaker 1: you and it wears you down. So the average person
Speaker 1: very much is worn down by a system that is
Speaker 1: not clearly is not crafted for their benefit to help them.
Speaker 1: That's glaringly obvious. Nothing is simply given to us, that's
Speaker 1: for sure, any of us. And it's a struggle just
Speaker 1: to maintain the basic, a basic living, a basic, basic
Speaker 1: survival of getting by day to day gets more and
Speaker 1: more difficult for all the wrong reasons. And the basic
Speaker 1: breakdown is that those who own true wealth and true
Speaker 1: resources hoard those things they do not share it. There's
Speaker 1: no such thing as trickle down economics or anything like that.
Speaker 1: That does not occur. What happens is when people get anything,
Speaker 1: they hold onto it for dear life. They keep it
Speaker 1: for themselves. They do not let go, and they seek
Speaker 1: greater power, greater influence, greater wealth. So not only do
Speaker 1: they start out with so much, they attain more and
Speaker 1: more and more, until a tiny dominant minority does basically
Speaker 1: own all of the real resources. They own everything. There's
Speaker 1: nothing left for anybody else except for this little system
Speaker 1: that's been crafted for.
Speaker 2: Us to.
Speaker 1: Get by within that exists for the benefit of those
Speaker 1: who own the whole thing. I mean, that's basically just
Speaker 1: what's happening. And the government exists as a an administrative
Speaker 1: apparatus that is essentially controlled by these same people. Because
Speaker 1: you have that money influenced power, you use it to
Speaker 1: just buy favor from that administrative entity that we call government. Right,
Speaker 1: that's how the basic breakdown. I mean, it's not complicated,
Speaker 1: it's not fancy. That's what's happening. We could get lost
Speaker 1: in the weeds and complaining about this or that, and
Speaker 1: we could believe the stupid propaganda campaigns that we've been
Speaker 1: intellectually killed with, intellectually wounded to the point where we
Speaker 1: think the battle is here on the ground. New Civil
Speaker 1: War style, brother against brother. We're fighting each other here
Speaker 1: in the trenches, right, So we at the bottom level
Speaker 1: of society, which is pretty much everybody except for a
Speaker 1: tiny handful of people or on the other side of
Speaker 1: this thing. But the rest of us are all here
Speaker 1: fighting each other because we've been made to believe that's
Speaker 1: that's how we change things. And I mean this proves
Speaker 1: itself true time and time again. And this isn't to say,
Speaker 1: going back to the election, that separate candidates do not
Speaker 1: represent differing interests. They do different power interests. Yes, different
Speaker 1: investors come along and invest in one side and the other.
Speaker 2: Then they have.
Speaker 1: Specific business reasons for doing so, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 1: They want more control over the entirety of the system
Speaker 1: than they already have. They can attain that by putting
Speaker 1: their preferred executive in place in the government. It's like,
Speaker 1: if we buy this guy off, he's going to do
Speaker 1: what we want him to do, and not just him,
Speaker 1: but it's an entire administration you're buying, right, an entire package,
Speaker 1: entire plan, oftentimes the details of which are written out
Speaker 1: by fancy NGO's foundations. They tell you what they're going
Speaker 1: to do, they tell you the plan. It's like, we're
Speaker 1: going to do this, this, this, and this, and oftentimes
Speaker 1: the plan involves using members of the serfdom like us,
Speaker 1: exploiting us. But it doesn't say it will exploit us.
Speaker 1: It always says that it will free us in some
Speaker 1: way or another, or that it's going to give us.
Speaker 1: We're somehow going to gain advantage. We're going to be
Speaker 1: able to get fancy jobs in the government. Now, Hey,
Speaker 1: are you a dim wit? Did you not even get
Speaker 1: a ged? Great, We're going to give you a really
Speaker 1: fancy high position in government now because all those positions
Speaker 1: that used to require a college degree don't anymore, and
Speaker 1: we won't have the problem that is a bunch of
Speaker 1: educated idiots running the country anymore.
Speaker 2: Boy, I feel better about things now. I'm not here.
Speaker 2: I'm not here lauding.
Speaker 1: The success of academia.
Speaker 2: I'm not here.
Speaker 1: There's no good side to take in this. I completely
Speaker 1: understand the grievance of the working class. I understand it,
Speaker 1: I get and I live within it. I know it,
Speaker 1: I have heard and I understand why people feel the
Speaker 1: way to do people on the low, low level, how
Speaker 1: they do have grievance, how they do believe that educated
Speaker 1: people are just morons and they're not always wrong about then.
Speaker 1: There is there are elements of truth in then, but
Speaker 1: there's also there's also something to be said for the
Speaker 1: anti intellectual strain within Certainly, let's just let's just say
Speaker 1: the one side has a very anti intellectual strength to it.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about the Donald Trump campaign, right. His
Speaker 1: target is not the intelligencia, it's not the college educated, right,
Speaker 1: And we've read, we've all read news stories about this
Speaker 1: that people with a college degree are going to vote
Speaker 1: for Kamala Harris, people who don't have a college degree
Speaker 1: are going to vote for Donald Trump. And now we're
Speaker 1: just falling into that same old stupid So you look,
Speaker 1: we're just falling into the mold that we're supposed to.
Speaker 2: We're just going along to get along. And it's the
Speaker 2: status quo.
Speaker 1: It's this weird, bizarre status quo that once again, nobody
Speaker 1: asked for this, nobody wants it really to be this way,
Speaker 1: and yet somehow it ends up being this way, and
Speaker 1: we all reiterate this and make it true. We all
Speaker 1: make this the truth because it objectively becomes reality.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is true.
Speaker 1: If you have a college degree, you're probably have a
Speaker 1: vote for Kamala Harris and vice versa. It's pretty crazy
Speaker 1: that this ends up being like this, and that they're
Speaker 1: all these like all these roles we've been given to
Speaker 1: play in the world. And I think I think that
Speaker 1: a lot of the frustrations in the midst of all
Speaker 1: this common from the fact that everybody knows that we're
Speaker 1: all kind of like playing along and playing a game,
Speaker 1: and that none of this is really none of this
Speaker 1: has to be the way that it is right, and
Speaker 1: so we're all kind of hoping we can vote it away.
Speaker 1: It's like, nobody likes this, nobody wants this situation the
Speaker 1: way it is, although it persists.
Speaker 2: Maybe I can vote it away.
Speaker 1: By you know, putting my person in there, and then
Speaker 1: it never ends up happening. But we have gotten to
Speaker 1: the point where we're so sick of this whole thing
Speaker 1: that I think people are welcoming the concept of, yes,
Speaker 1: let's end democracy, Yes let's end voting, let's end all
Speaker 1: of this, because clearly the corruption has run so deep
Speaker 1: that yes, there is there is no longer integrity in
Speaker 1: the electoral process because of you know, read all the
Speaker 1: news stories. There's so many that can attest to this.
Speaker 1: You pick the ones that you like and read this. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you which ones to read. You
Speaker 1: just read the ones you like. But just know that
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is the general truth. Right boy, I'm
Speaker 1: probably building up a really big audience on the show tonight.
Speaker 1: I'm being so ambiguous. I'm not taking any sides.
Speaker 2: You like this.
Speaker 1: Either that or I'm driving everybody away because I'm not
Speaker 1: going to their side explicitly. I'm actually probably losing even
Speaker 1: more people than what I already had, which is I
Speaker 1: don't know how many people are listening it. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It does not matter, because the whole point, once again,
Speaker 1: I think, can be taken by zooming out, seeing.
Speaker 2: That we are.
Speaker 1: A large group of people living in a expanded collective
Speaker 1: social agreement.
Speaker 2: Be that.
Speaker 1: Local city, county, state, nation, or even the world. Because
Speaker 1: the world all interacts, it all interact with one another
Speaker 1: globally on a global scale. Now at this point, so
Speaker 1: things have been expanded from natural human gatherings pre industrial civilization.
Speaker 1: So things have changed a lot in a relatively short
Speaker 1: amount of time. Relatively a couple hundred years is a
Speaker 1: very short time. You look at what's happened in a
Speaker 1: couple hundred years. It's a whole lot that is not insignificant.
Speaker 1: And we could look at this in a similar way
Speaker 1: that Ray Kurtzwell and his singularity scenario with the Bell curve.
Speaker 1: The singularities got hit because this Bell curve, exponential growth
Speaker 1: in computing power is going to make it so that
Speaker 1: agi just emerges out of that as a consequence, because
Speaker 1: computing is so strong, we'll just be able to, you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of consciousness will emerge out of the machine
Speaker 1: even without even effort. Almost is kind of the idea there.
Speaker 1: But in a similar fashion, similar alchemical fashion, the Bell
Speaker 1: curve exists on a human, social and political scale, economic do.
Speaker 2: In that.
Speaker 1: These changes you can place them on a Bell curve.
Speaker 1: And we have reached a point where perhaps we have
Speaker 1: reached It's hard to look at a given point and
Speaker 1: say where it is that we've escaped into or we've
Speaker 1: reached escape velocity? Right when did things really get out
Speaker 1: of control? What point in history is the marker? And
Speaker 1: once again on the last show, I was said about
Speaker 1: marker points of history and how when you're in them
Speaker 1: they go unnoticed, but then in hindsight you see them,
Speaker 1: and we're starting to get hindsight for various things that
Speaker 1: happened in our lives, I believe, and the marker posts
Speaker 1: of history are becoming apparent now, which is always kind
Speaker 1: of fascinating to look back on them. But we do
Speaker 1: have to be very aware in this moment as we're
Speaker 1: living out perhaps more and more markers going by faster
Speaker 1: and faster, were talking about this bell curve sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: What is that? What's happening is human society changing at
Speaker 1: an ever more rapid pace. What does that mean? What
Speaker 1: is this strange artificial world we have created? How much
Speaker 1: has it gotten out of our control? Because as much
Speaker 1: as I said, there are absolutely stakeholders invested in this
Speaker 1: thing that are the beneficiaries of this. Absolutely we have
Speaker 1: to remember that, and we should be pointing at them
Speaker 1: more often than we do, and we should be holding
Speaker 1: them to account, which they never are, which is an
Speaker 1: absolute shame, utterly ridiculous how we allow this and how
Speaker 1: we continue to just beat up each other. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, even those who do exercise outsized influence
Speaker 1: and who have way too much, even they do not
Speaker 1: maintain complete control over everything because the way that they
Speaker 1: got there is by manipulating some artificial aspect of this
Speaker 1: entire system to begin with. You can come up with
Speaker 1: any sort of clever way to accrue wealth, money, and
Speaker 1: all that. That's not necessarily even doing anything. It seems
Speaker 1: like the further we go, the less and less the
Speaker 1: importance on actually producing some sort of physical product or
Speaker 1: actually even doing anything is important and more. What gains
Speaker 1: greater prominence is this same thing we can see with financialization,
Speaker 1: in that if you can just come up with some
Speaker 1: scheme to put more more numbers into your bank account,
Speaker 1: that's all you really have to do. So it's just
Speaker 1: about like gaming things, gaming the system itself in order
Speaker 1: to accrue assets, and those assets are even becoming more
Speaker 1: and more abstract as we go into virtual life the living,
Speaker 1: but not just using the phones, and we're constantly looking
Speaker 1: at the screens. We're always on social media, we're always
Speaker 1: playing games, we're always online. That reality, there's so much
Speaker 1: to take from that. Yes, we are doing that more
Speaker 1: and more often, But what does that mean? Where are we?
Speaker 1: Where do we exist? Where is our mind? Where is
Speaker 1: our conscious awareness? What space does it inhabit? It inhabits
Speaker 1: a virtual space? Maybe more often than not. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's the point of no return, is if you could
Speaker 1: actually point to a moment in time where when was
Speaker 1: it where people actually started spending more time inside these
Speaker 1: virtual spaces, be that like eyes looking at a screen
Speaker 1: as opposed to your face turned away from a screen,
Speaker 1: or you know, virtual interface of any sort, and just
Speaker 1: you're out and about in the physical world, just walking
Speaker 1: around as humans have walked around in this world since
Speaker 1: as long as we've been here. What point did that happen?
Speaker 1: And I know we could sit here and say you're looking,
Speaker 1: you're pointing the finger in the wrong direction. There's nothing
Speaker 1: inherently wrong with technology. There's nothing wrong with us indulging
Speaker 1: in these technologies, and we all do it. I certainly
Speaker 1: do as much as anybody. Not trying to act like
Speaker 1: I'm immune to this. Quite the opposite. I'm a part
Speaker 1: of this. We're all in this together, and once again,
Speaker 1: solidarity there it is. There's another thing that we can
Speaker 1: kind of take away that maybe can we can rally
Speaker 1: with each other and get some sort of good positive
Speaker 1: energy for once once again the solidarity of our shared
Speaker 1: oppression and depression in this artificial hellscape that we've all
Speaker 1: done so much to create, to maintain, and to push further,
Speaker 1: push the balance further and higher and greater. And that
Speaker 1: is the main event that Godfrey Reggio spoke about when
Speaker 1: he was talking about Quiana Scatzi. The main event is
Speaker 1: that thing which those of us who are living in
Speaker 1: it never even notice that we're but part of We're
Speaker 1: all a part of this thing, and somehow it escapes
Speaker 1: conscious awareness time and time again, it just continues to grow,
Speaker 1: and there's no end of scapegoats and false narratives to chase,
Speaker 1: little flights of fancy, like we can retreat into the past,
Speaker 1: into these fictitious concepts of the past, fictitious concepts of
Speaker 1: the present, where we can overlay and yes, very much
Speaker 1: scapegoat a group.
Speaker 2: It's nice to scapegoat people.
Speaker 1: We love to escapeging other people typically, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be that can be situations and things, and
Speaker 1: that's a big part of what politics is, the grievance politics.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, there's no jobs anywhere, it's because of
Speaker 1: all the immigrants coming in. They're taking them, and you know,
Speaker 1: so just blame it on somebody else that may not
Speaker 1: even be there, and it's probably a problem that the
Speaker 1: problems the way that we view our problems. Certainly in
Speaker 1: the political realm, we're always told how to view what
Speaker 1: the problem is. It is like, you don't have a job.
Speaker 1: That's a problem. You don't have a job because the
Speaker 1: liberals carded a bunch of migrants from every evil country
Speaker 1: in the world and their criminals.
Speaker 2: And they're here now and they're.
Speaker 1: All transgender murderers and they took your job. Meanwhile, there's
Speaker 1: tons of jobs that you could have, but you don't
Speaker 1: have one because you don't want to have one. You
Speaker 1: could be employed somewhere. And truth be told, too, a
Speaker 1: lot of people are getting pickier and pickier, and this
Speaker 1: is another way to kind of frame things and blame
Speaker 1: the victim too. It's like, oh, all these worthless losers
Speaker 1: aren't going out there and getting jobs because they're lazy.
Speaker 1: And who are these idiots that are lazy? It's always
Speaker 1: the younger generation. There are always a bunch of lazy
Speaker 1: morons that are stupid. The future's gone because they're idiots.
Speaker 1: They're the ones looking at the screens, they're the ones
Speaker 1: watching the brain rot content online. It's all their fault.
Speaker 1: They're stupid. The future's gone because of them. They can't
Speaker 1: even work, they don't know how to make a resume. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: whose children are they? First of all. Second of all,
Speaker 1: you're looking at this. You've been told how to look
Speaker 1: at this, and you're looking at this tiny little You've
Speaker 1: got blinders on, and you've been told what to think,
Speaker 1: what to say, what to see, how to see it.
Speaker 1: You've been told who to blame, who to hate, who
Speaker 1: to be scared of. Meanwhile, you're never given any actual
Speaker 1: solutions or ways to empower yourself, or actual alternatives to
Speaker 1: this giant mess that we've all fed into. We never
Speaker 1: do that. We just keep buying into the same stuff
Speaker 1: that we love because we like to be lied to.
Speaker 1: We like uh being told what to think. We like hating.
Speaker 1: We love to hate. We love hating people. We love
Speaker 1: hating uh countries. We love hating ideas. We we love
Speaker 1: hating religions. We love having our own religion and then
Speaker 1: hating other ones. That's fun. That's a standby. We we
Speaker 1: just love all of that. Anything that feels bad, it's
Speaker 1: just great.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, it's just.
Speaker 1: The real problems continue to elude us. This giant story
Speaker 1: continues to play itself out. I think we all really
Speaker 1: do know better, which is the odd thing about this.
Speaker 1: I think unconsciously we all know the truth, but we
Speaker 1: could just keep playing along with so many of the
Speaker 1: convenient lies that are so fun to tell.
Speaker 2: That we just keep going with it.
Speaker 1: And once you know it, this digital, virtual, artificial space
Speaker 1: seems not only to nurture, but to breed the very
Speaker 1: sorts of divisive ideologies, propaganda weaponry that's used to further
Speaker 1: enslave us and.
Speaker 2: Push us into this thing.
Speaker 1: If you look at everybody who's out there complaining and yelling,
Speaker 1: and they're like, ah, they have all the answers, they
Speaker 1: know all the problems, they have all the scapegoats and
Speaker 1: lined up and in order, even like this is number
Speaker 1: one scapegoat, This is number two scapegoat, This is number
Speaker 1: three that orders importance. This is the leader's scapegoat. This
Speaker 1: is the one who answers them. These are the ones
Speaker 1: that come after that. These are all the soldiers at
Speaker 1: the bottom that are doing the work that you're going
Speaker 1: to have to fight against in the war. You ever
Speaker 1: notice the people that know all about that are the
Speaker 1: ones that clearly are fashioning their air quotes opinions by
Speaker 1: just looking at analytics and making making attention grabbing material
Speaker 1: for its own sake, making things just for the sake
Speaker 1: of getting attention. What gets attention? Yelling and making people
Speaker 1: mad and getting people angry, being divisive, what gets engagement?
Speaker 1: How do you engage people? You get them angry at
Speaker 1: you as one way to engage. Forgive me, I was
Speaker 1: just plugging something in.
Speaker 2: Isn't that apropos But it doesn't take a lot of
Speaker 2: insight to see.
Speaker 1: That the people that are doing this the most are
Speaker 1: just like digging into the analytics and seeing what Google's
Speaker 1: hold them that people clicked on the most. That's what's
Speaker 1: informing their decisions on their performative outrage. That's what thrives
Speaker 1: in this bizarre false reality that we're living in. That's
Speaker 1: on the political end of things. Of course, there is
Speaker 1: the more superficial, superfluous, purely entertainment value fluff that exists
Speaker 1: in the same sort of vein, in that it has
Speaker 1: just become clickbait. So any sort of entertainment even that
Speaker 1: we seek as an escape to just relax and enjoy ourselves,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to watch this silly video or I'm
Speaker 1: going to watch a documentary on my favorite online video platform.
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch this creator they the video blog,
Speaker 1: and I like it. A lot of the stuff that
Speaker 1: used to be there that was it seems like it
Speaker 1: becomes less and less substantive as time goes on, the
Speaker 1: more and more just clickbait because that's what the platform,
Speaker 1: that's what the medium turns out. And this is algorithmically
Speaker 1: driven as well. We have to realize, so the engineering
Speaker 1: technological aspect of this is always.
Speaker 2: At the forefront, or should be.
Speaker 1: We should realize it is the data science, the analytics,
Speaker 1: the algorithms, the systems, the computer systems, the logic.
Speaker 2: Of the machine or lack thereof.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily a human logic, however, it is humans.
Speaker 1: So it's a weird biofeedback thing. It's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a back and forth between the weird technological UH space
Speaker 1: and the way that it at, the operating system of
Speaker 1: that and those that are existing within it, the biological
Speaker 1: creatures that are inputting and using this thing, making building
Speaker 1: the content within it, interacting with it, interacting with each
Speaker 1: other through the interface that is the digital technologies. So
Speaker 1: it's it's this weird back and forth relationship between man
Speaker 1: and the machine. It might even be a romance and
Speaker 1: make a romance novel, a science fiction romance novelt of
Speaker 1: this whole thing. A few people already have. There's been
Speaker 1: some pretty insightful pieces of fiction that have played to this.
Speaker 1: Blade Runner twenty forty nine comes to mind. This is
Speaker 1: an excellent movie. But so there is such a thing
Speaker 1: as art that still exists. There is such a thing
Speaker 1: as being able to have insight and understanding as to
Speaker 1: actual truth of what's truly going on beyond just the
Speaker 1: nonsense that we're expected to take part in. Don't have
Speaker 1: to only be about that, So there's the good thing.
Speaker 1: Doesn't only have to be that. We don't only have
Speaker 1: to worry about what we're told to worry about. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to try not to do that. To do
Speaker 1: my best on this show. It's a herculean task for
Speaker 1: all of us. It's a big challenge.
Speaker 2: It's a big.
Speaker 1: Challenge in our day and age. Those of us that
Speaker 1: are up to the task, I hope that we have
Speaker 1: it in us to do our best in the face
Speaker 1: of this thing. Because we've got we'orthy adversary in front
Speaker 1: of us, and that adversary is, to a great extent,
Speaker 1: just ourselves.
Speaker 2: Ourselves.
Speaker 1: We are fighting ourselves in every sense of it. So
Speaker 1: I hope that you can take heart and find ways
Speaker 1: to move ahead as you.
Speaker 2: Will within all this. I hope you know who you're
Speaker 2: voting for.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you're ready for the outcome, which is,
Speaker 1: once I said, a foregone conclusion. I don't know exactly
Speaker 1: how that's gonna all pan out, but it's gonna be
Speaker 1: wild and crazy, so be ready for that. It could
Speaker 1: be fun. Just make it enjoyable as much as much
Speaker 1: as that can be, which it will not be, but
Speaker 1: you know, just make the most of it, Okay, make
Speaker 1: the most of it. We'll do what we can do here.
Speaker 1: This is the age of transitions. After all, we are
Speaker 1: in it. There's no way out, and do keep listening
Speaker 1: to the show. It's been a long time since I've
Speaker 1: had a guest, but I will have more. I'm actually
Speaker 1: supposed to interview somebody this weekend, so as long as
Speaker 1: everything goes according to plan, I will have a new interview.
Speaker 1: At least is totally I'll be able to play that
Speaker 1: on the next week's show. I'll record it and then
Speaker 1: play it on the show is what I'm planning to do.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that works out. I have to work
Speaker 1: on my social skills and also find it within myself
Speaker 1: to try to find somebody I actually want to talk to.
Speaker 1: It seems like there's less than less people like that,
Speaker 1: at least in this digital space. When I exist in
Speaker 1: the day to day actual life, where I'm walking around
Speaker 1: in the world and doing normal.
Speaker 2: Everyday things, I usually like everybody.
Speaker 1: And even the people I don't particularly like, I always
Speaker 1: understand their shortcomings. So I'm like, Okay, this person is
Speaker 1: annoying or their pain or I really don't particularly even
Speaker 1: like them. However I can understand. I try to understand
Speaker 1: what their motivations might be, and of course I don't
Speaker 1: know all of them, but generally speaking, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think I see where they're coming from. The annoying
Speaker 1: things that they do, I can.
Speaker 2: See why they may be doing it.
Speaker 1: Then there could be some virtuous angles as to why
Speaker 1: they've probably made what seemed to be the wrong decision
Speaker 1: so many times, But I can't truly dislike or be
Speaker 1: mad at them. That's most people I feel that about that,
Speaker 1: and actually most people I actually just like straight out
Speaker 1: it's like, oh yeah, this person's cool, and like maybe
Speaker 1: they've got some idiosynchronic behavior even where they you know,
Speaker 1: like the crusty person that's like always grumpy, that's kind
Speaker 1: of endearing, right.
Speaker 2: It's like you would think that they're going out their.
Speaker 1: Way to not be liked, but then that actually ends
Speaker 1: up being like this quality that endears them to you.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, that that old grump. What a
Speaker 1: what a cool person?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Also that So that's actual life.
Speaker 1: But here, when we become avatars in the virtual world,
Speaker 1: it's a whole nother ballgame where we become disembodied.
Speaker 2: And we become.
Speaker 1: These personas which very much are easy to hate, and
Speaker 1: the hateful aspects of these things we amplify due to
Speaker 1: the space that we're existing, and it amplifies the dark
Speaker 1: side of us, seems to which might be noteworthy. We
Speaker 1: might want to pay attention to that, or we could
Speaker 1: just keep going on living in this thing till we
Speaker 1: don't have any other option to even live in an
Speaker 1: actual physical world anymore, and see how that all works
Speaker 1: out for us. So we have options, that's what's exciting.
Speaker 1: We can we can choose our future. The real election
Speaker 1: going on, What do we elect to do with ourselves?
Speaker 1: How do we where do we put our energies? Where
Speaker 1: do we put our attention? Once again, do we choose
Speaker 1: to pay attention to all the things we're told to
Speaker 1: pay attention to, or do we go our own way?
Speaker 1: I think it is possible to do that. We have
Speaker 1: to remember that we're in this greater scheme of things
Speaker 1: and do what we can within that. But we do
Speaker 1: have to also understand our strengths and see what we're
Speaker 1: able to do and where we're able to do it,
Speaker 1: what gets us the most bang for our buck, where
Speaker 1: we don't even have to use bucks. Those are nice
Speaker 1: places to We're out there, let's see here. So yes,
Speaker 1: look forward to hopefully some interviews that I'll have again.
Speaker 1: I'll try to be nicer and I'll try to be
Speaker 1: more sociable and cordial and not despise everybody. See I'm
Speaker 1: a victim of this too, I was saying that. But
Speaker 1: I'll find people, I will talk to them. I will
Speaker 1: put on this show. Hopefully it'll be pretty interesting. There's
Speaker 1: some pretty interesting characters out there, so look forward to that.
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Speaker 2: The Mets. The Mets took a beating the one Night
Speaker 2: though eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know, I know they read it two.
Speaker 3: But I am feeling that they got a push to
Speaker 3: come back. I think they would do it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you I stopped watching the other night and
Speaker 7: I was like, after I watched the eight nothing blowout,
Speaker 7: then I saw mosing like five nothing, and I said,
Speaker 7: you know what, I'm done watching. I almost feel like
Speaker 7: I was causing a curse.
Speaker 2: You know. I was thinking the same thing, being I'm.
Speaker 3: Doing it with my picks. And that's why I'm not
Speaker 3: in football. I'm not looking at it. I know what's happening.
Speaker 3: I'm right now head by a game. But that would
Speaker 3: because the Thursday game. But I'm saying to myself, if
Speaker 3: I'm watching these games, I'm going to lose. So what
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do is not even watch me watch it
Speaker 3: and see what happened.
Speaker 2: He's the solution there. Just stop watching and then just and.
Speaker 7: I do the same thing now, Jimmy, Jimmy incorrectly told
Speaker 7: me earlier that the Mets were done.
Speaker 2: I said, you kidding me, They're already done. They can't be. No,
Speaker 2: I know it's not. Now. I see he.
Speaker 3: Saw. What Jimmy saw was Dodge just winning two more
Speaker 3: games nextra in New York, and so at three to one,
Speaker 3: that's what he saw, right, And and he threw it
Speaker 3: up the windows, saying, now they're done.
Speaker 2: And like he said to you, but.
Speaker 3: Look at what that But look what came up, Jimmy boy.
Speaker 7: Right, two possible games. Like look, that's what the Mets
Speaker 7: did all season, right, So what I'm seeing they keep
Speaker 7: coming back and and and that's the thing. They get
Speaker 7: under it and they get beat up bad.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what, I think they like to
Speaker 3: be the professor being. They want to they do that.
Speaker 2: They like coming from behind him.
Speaker 3: They want to charge, they want to competition. They will
Speaker 3: how they have it with the Dodgers, But they are
Speaker 3: pushing themselves and that's what I think they do.
Speaker 7: Let me ask you this though, because you've been watching
Speaker 7: the Tony all year, right, yeah, okay, So do they
Speaker 7: stick him in the outfield sometimes?
Speaker 2: Is that what they do with him?
Speaker 3: Or do they just you know him, well only mony
Speaker 3: d H most of the time.
Speaker 2: Well that makes sense, I would d H.
Speaker 3: Since I heard that he can't pitch anymore, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: So now he's DH.
Speaker 3: That what I'm hearing.
Speaker 2: He was pitching just fine the other night. Oh he
Speaker 2: did just the other night. I missed that one. That's
Speaker 2: what he was. Yeah, he was pitching for a bit
Speaker 2: the other night.
Speaker 7: I saw him pitch and I said, man, this guy
Speaker 7: is actually better than I thought. I mean, even all
Speaker 7: the stuff I read about him, I never seen him
Speaker 7: play right.
Speaker 3: But what I heard about he said he was hurting
Speaker 3: because he couldn't pitch anymore.
Speaker 2: But I don't.
Speaker 3: Missus, uh miss his sidekick saying something about that.
Speaker 2: And then he said yeah. And then he fouled the
Speaker 2: ball off and it might have hit his toe. It
Speaker 2: might not. But then and then he filed the ball
Speaker 2: off and it hit him right in the crotch. I
Speaker 2: did see that. Yet two times in a row he
Speaker 2: hit himself the ball. That was crazy.
Speaker 7: He hit him the foot maybe, but the same thing
Speaker 7: is that the shot on the foot, you're not sure
Speaker 7: you know, you're looking at it, going did that ball
Speaker 7: make contact with his foot or not? Right with the
Speaker 7: shot and the crotch, No, that definitely happened, and he
Speaker 7: sugar he shook it off good.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: Initially the announcers thought he got hitting the side and
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, that didn't look like the side.
Speaker 2: Then they played the replay and they went, whoa, Nope,
Speaker 2: not the side. That was horrible.
Speaker 7: Oh god, I thought, yeah, I thought he was going
Speaker 7: to go out of the game with that, you know,
Speaker 7: And then the Mets picture. The Mets hitter got hit
Speaker 7: right on the thigh with a fastball and I thought,
Speaker 7: oh man, this guy's going to go out because he
Speaker 7: rolled on the ground like, you know, like somebody broke something.
Speaker 7: And I said, oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 3: But that game they lost, you know that dame he last,
Speaker 3: and that must have been three three wins for the
Speaker 3: Dodgers at that time, right, yeah, they three to one.
Speaker 3: They're saying, no, that's one more game went, it's double.
Speaker 3: But no, wait a minute, right, turn the page.
Speaker 2: Well, the Dodgers, because.
Speaker 3: Amount bombing, it's.
Speaker 2: Still tough to come out.
Speaker 7: It's still tough to come out in a three to
Speaker 7: one depicit because look, the Dodgers only have to win
Speaker 7: one of the next.
Speaker 2: Two right at home, at home, at home. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: know er stadium, I know that.
Speaker 7: So the Mets are behind the eight ball bad right,
Speaker 7: Even if they win the next one, even if they
Speaker 7: crush them, it don't matter because they could still just win.
Speaker 7: They could just squeak out one of these two games.
Speaker 7: That's all they gotta do.
Speaker 3: What just one game and tell them like they say,
Speaker 3: but look what they did. For example, look what they
Speaker 3: did the Philly the foot they won't done. I'm finished. Right,
Speaker 3: they came back and boom, they swept that. They took
Speaker 3: them out. So I can't really put my finger on
Speaker 3: this whole series.
Speaker 2: And then they got that kid Hernandez, right, was a
Speaker 2: kiky Hernandez. Oh yeah yeah yeah. And that guy all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, when when he goes into the postseason
Speaker 2: he cranks up.
Speaker 3: Wait, yeah, that's the other thing.
Speaker 2: He's like this ezy.
Speaker 3: He got these crazy hitters that will go crazy, and
Speaker 3: they oh, it's time to go.
Speaker 2: This is the end of the year.
Speaker 7: It looks you know, when you when you were a
Speaker 7: younger man, when you were a younger man, uncle, you
Speaker 7: could watch Reggie Jackson.
Speaker 2: They called him mister October right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard about him too. Yeah, he was the guy.
Speaker 7: He was the guy if you if you were in
Speaker 7: the postseason, you had Reggie with you, you were going
Speaker 7: to do good because he was going to crank.
Speaker 2: It up in the postseason every time.
Speaker 7: But this is the time, Oh my up, Dodgers got
Speaker 7: like three mister October's and otani I mean jesus, yeah, yeah, yeah, exacting.
Speaker 7: But it's a mexicaneak by on him. Man, I don't know,
Speaker 7: you know that that'll be that'll be something. I don't
Speaker 7: have a lot of faith because you know, they need
Speaker 7: to use their bullpen. They need to use like six
Speaker 7: pitchers a game to get by exactly.
Speaker 2: That's what I believe they did.
Speaker 9: Or someone's something they did, something they did, they did
Speaker 9: they hitting, they woke up pitting finally with so many
Speaker 9: hits or the bump pen thing.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing with them.
Speaker 7: It's either feast or famine, right, It's either they get
Speaker 7: lots of hits or nothing, lots or nothing. It's all
Speaker 7: or nothing with them. It's so funny because that's really
Speaker 7: what the Mets are like.
Speaker 3: And that's what I kept looking at myself, what's all
Speaker 3: with these people? What wrong with these Mets? And they're
Speaker 3: doing what.
Speaker 2: You just said?
Speaker 3: What what the heck is this?
Speaker 7: Well, you realize outside of that Subway series in two
Speaker 7: thousand or two thousand and one, right before that, the
Speaker 7: last time they were in there was eighty eight. For
Speaker 7: God's sake, you know, so it's been a while, it's
Speaker 7: been a minute, and uh, you know, look they're due.
Speaker 7: But I don't know, man, even if they don't get it. See,
Speaker 7: here's the funny thing though, the Dodgers they should win this.
Speaker 2: Yes, if they don't, you.
Speaker 7: Know, what are people going to say about the Mets
Speaker 7: going into it's the Yankees say, because I don't think
Speaker 7: for a second that the Commanders are going to succeed
Speaker 7: beating the Yankees.
Speaker 2: What do you think of that one? Right now?
Speaker 3: The score was when I came up six to five Yankees.
Speaker 1: Shuck, it's the Guardians you're talking about that. You're talking
Speaker 1: about Cleveland Guardians. I'm sorry, the Guardian. You know what
Speaker 1: I mixed itall?
Speaker 2: That's the Red right, Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: I knew the two different Indians got changed to the
Speaker 7: Commanders and the Guardians, but I mix them up.
Speaker 2: Sorry, you're right.
Speaker 7: Well, one was the Indians and one was the Redskins. Anyway,
Speaker 7: we talked about Chief Wahoo on the Friday Night College Show.
Speaker 7: So yes, anyhow, I'll shut up now, but just give
Speaker 7: you a little note here, uncle. You got listeners in
Speaker 7: Germany and Canada and all over the US according to
Speaker 7: the Ocelli stream. I have no idea who's listening on
Speaker 7: Twitter or anywhere else we're watching any of the live streams,
Speaker 7: But on the Ocelli stream, that's what we got and
Speaker 7: uh so, welcome to you from around the world and
Speaker 7: thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 2: Okay, right now, not so bad. I don't know what
Speaker 2: what can we talk about?
Speaker 10: This?
Speaker 2: Should I kick.
Speaker 3: This? Phone call?
Speaker 2: Here's what we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 3: Okay, phone call, ling up and talking to the band,
Speaker 3: let's go.
Speaker 2: There. Listening to the.
Speaker 11: Conversation, I I I hope they take the Dodgers, but
Speaker 11: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Like I was telling Chuck, the darn thing they were
Speaker 3: coming on, coming on, Look what they did to Look
Speaker 3: what they did to Hilly. Yeah, but you're rooting for
Speaker 3: the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. But you're root You're rooting for the
Speaker 2: Dodgers though, right Uncle, I mean, Jimmy, you're talking. Are
Speaker 2: you rooting for the Dodgers? Uncle, I'm talking to you
Speaker 2: right now. Are you rooting for the Dodgers or not?
Speaker 3: No? No, I'm I'm a med man.
Speaker 2: You want that I needed to check Listen, I'm that man.
Speaker 3: I'm born in Brooklyn. Why wouldn't I be for the Mets,
Speaker 3: not for those sorry Dodgers.
Speaker 2: Sorry because the Dodgers came from how about that?
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying what I'm saying, is I ain't glad
Speaker 3: to see the Mets get in because I was from there.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I got you. That's fine, that's saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If it wasn't the Mets, though, you'd probably be rooting
Speaker 2: for the Dodgers, right, Okay, So that's what I want
Speaker 2: the Dodgers to add. How about that?
Speaker 3: Because you're not from New York, So that's why that's understandable.
Speaker 3: This is my point I'm trying to tell people. But
Speaker 3: that's what I'm trying to.
Speaker 7: I'm always confused about this their sidekick. Are you originally
Speaker 7: from Ohio or Pennsylvania? Which which one is it?
Speaker 2: Yes, originally Pennsylvania. Okay.
Speaker 1: And if we're talking baseball by baseball team, I am
Speaker 1: fond of the Phillies because I grew up watching them
Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties, especially the team. I could go
Speaker 1: on and on about that team, which I find fascinating,
Speaker 1: but I watched them, So I lean on the Phillies
Speaker 1: as a baseball team. But then for other sports I
Speaker 1: usually go with the l A team, the LA Rams. Yeah, okay, Dodgers.
Speaker 1: So I you know, so you you got into the
Speaker 1: Phillies when Pete Rose left. Basically, yeah, yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: Mike Schmidt right third playing, But that was before I
Speaker 1: even realized that I was so little. Then I was
Speaker 1: more the Lenny Dikstra, John Cruk, Darren Dalden, those guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that is the team that I watched. Dykeshra you
Speaker 7: got from the Mets. But that was a bad trade.
Speaker 7: But yeah, but Dykesher was a tough player for the
Speaker 7: Phillies for years and years. Anyways, Okay, Kirk Shilling right right, McGraths,
Speaker 7: how about that?
Speaker 2: Was he still there? I don't remember that name. I
Speaker 2: don't remember watching him. I've heard of that name.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, kid, I remember what he was, Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: I remember him. Uncle remembers I remember that guy, of course, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember him.
Speaker 2: The cool name that was.
Speaker 3: That was the guy that was getting like the motor going,
Speaker 3: get the motive going, and he was moving along.
Speaker 2: So that's why his name's Tug super animated. Yeah animated.
Speaker 2: I remember him.
Speaker 3: I remember him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tug the cards start the engine.
Speaker 3: Here's something like that.
Speaker 2: It was like that guy.
Speaker 3: Have you had a long hair or was his short hair?
Speaker 2: I don't know it was.
Speaker 3: Hair, but but I think deygnated show.
Speaker 7: Out a bit, you know what, id Phillies back then, honestly, Aaron,
Speaker 7: because I had you know, Philly stations in New Jersey, right,
Speaker 7: so I used to be able to watch you know,
Speaker 7: Philly baseball a lot. Is that like they made more
Speaker 7: excuse for the Phillies when they lost. Their announcers would
Speaker 7: always be like, the Phillies should have won this, and
Speaker 7: if they did, they didn't hear what. It was never
Speaker 7: the team's fault.
Speaker 2: It was always something else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: It was like, oh, well, you know, they should have
Speaker 7: beat him, you know, because they got Dykestra and that's it,
Speaker 7: and they should have beat him, you know, like every time,
Speaker 7: every time it wasn't.
Speaker 11: Like, look we just got to beat you know what,
Speaker 11: fur winning Tigers.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'd have to check showing.
Speaker 1: He bounced around to a few different teams, but he
Speaker 1: was on the Phillies for a minute.
Speaker 2: I forget where he ended up going, uh Red. He
Speaker 2: became a star with Phi his career. Maybe, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think Philly. I think the Red Sox A bunch
Speaker 2: of teams. He was kind of like just a journeyman
Speaker 2: knock around, who gives a crap where he is? Guy?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 7: And uh okay, so he he starts, according to what
Speaker 7: I see here on the internet, he starts with the
Speaker 7: Orioles and the Astros and he goes to the Phillies for.
Speaker 2: About eight years. Yes, it was a while.
Speaker 7: Yeah, then the Arizona Diamondbacks, then the Boston Red Sox,
Speaker 7: and then he's done.
Speaker 2: He retires that he did end up in Boston. Yeah okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah right, And now.
Speaker 1: Now he's now he's loving quanon online and just spreading
Speaker 1: the truth.
Speaker 2: But he was like a nobody.
Speaker 7: He was like a nobody for years and years until
Speaker 7: toward the end of his run with the Phillies. Then
Speaker 7: he was a big contract pitcher. And I'm thinking, when
Speaker 7: did the Diamondbacks come into existence, because he might have
Speaker 7: been one of those guys that they gave up, like
Speaker 7: they didn't protect him, so he got drafted over there.
Speaker 2: He might have been one of those guys. I don't
Speaker 2: remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was probably early on with the team, because
Speaker 1: I remember it coming into existence like deadly later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Diamondbacks did one, no one of these days, not
Speaker 3: long ago.
Speaker 2: Was it last year? The year before they won. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they won the little series.
Speaker 12: I remember when it was close to one year, one
Speaker 12: year ago with something. I thought they went to one,
Speaker 12: but they lost recently. Didn't that happen just one two
Speaker 12: years ago?
Speaker 2: All right? I can't remember. I don't know.
Speaker 7: Well, Kurt Schilling was the first twenty game winner that
Speaker 7: the Diamondbacks ever had, according to I just went to
Speaker 7: the franchise timeline and they mentioned that first, by the way,
Speaker 7: on their timeline. But let's see, it looks like, oh no, wait,
Speaker 7: ninety nine, I guess they came into existence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that sounds right. Ninety nine sounds about right them.
Speaker 2: And what other team did the Devil Rays Devil Rais?
Speaker 1: Yeah, another one too. Did Colorado Rockies coming the No,
Speaker 1: that was earlier. That was the same year that the
Speaker 1: Marlins came When in ninety I was like early nineties
Speaker 1: ninety two Marlins two?
Speaker 3: Okay, ninety two, that's when mount where the Mullins came.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, right, okay, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna look
Speaker 7: that up. But I'm just from my own memory. I
Speaker 7: think the Marlins came in in ninety two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was the Rockies Sam time, That's what
Speaker 2: I was saying that does that does sound right? Yeah?
Speaker 11: I forgot the important part. The Lions destroyed the Cowboys
Speaker 11: just destroyed.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah I had them.
Speaker 3: I had them this face wait I had them, but
Speaker 3: but but but look who you lost in that game?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just just for the record, and just for
Speaker 2: the record.
Speaker 7: Uh, the Marlins came into existence in ninety two, and
Speaker 7: they didn't They played their first game in ninety three.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah, you hold on? Is on this line?
Speaker 2: He got hello? Hang on, hang on? Who's that talking? There?
Speaker 5: We go?
Speaker 13: All right, man, I got to make a couple of
Speaker 13: corrections from what I've been hearing here. Tawny has not pitched.
Speaker 13: He's coming off with Tommy John surgery. He's projected to
Speaker 13: pitch next year. There has been some rumor. There's been
Speaker 13: some rumor he may pitch in the postseason. I'm guessing
Speaker 13: maybe in a relief role, but that has not happened yet. Chuck,
Speaker 13: uh and uncle, you're not a Mets fan. They're from Queens.
Speaker 13: You say you're from Brooklyn. Where the hell do you
Speaker 13: think the Dodgers began? The Dodgers Tooklyn. I wear my
Speaker 13: Brooklyn Dodger cap more than I wear the l a
Speaker 13: Dodger cap. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, the Dodgers
Speaker 13: began in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: I'll go forgot where he's from.
Speaker 1: He's from a different boroughs in that area.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you.
Speaker 13: You're not a Mets fan. Man, Get off of that.
Speaker 13: You're no Mets fan. Quick, kind of fool everybody.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought Otani was pitching.
Speaker 13: I thought is a Mets fan. Chuck is an authentic
Speaker 13: Mets fan. You are not a Mets fan, Uncle stock.
Speaker 2: Of Mantani.
Speaker 7: By the way, just.
Speaker 2: Oani, did I know what.
Speaker 13: I'm talking about. I'm a baseball you know what. I
Speaker 13: understand that.
Speaker 2: He's correct, though, did not pitch, That's right. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Why are they putting designated hitters in the National League
Speaker 2: playoff games? Well, it's it's a it's a whole different Well, no.
Speaker 13: They started that last year. The National League has the
Speaker 13: d H. Now, Chuck, God, everybody, we're all DH.
Speaker 7: Now what you heard me ask like, did they put
Speaker 7: him in the outfield or what? Because I didn't understand
Speaker 7: how he was in there unless he was pitching and
Speaker 7: he hit.
Speaker 2: A home run.
Speaker 13: No, No, he's a DH because the National League adopted
Speaker 13: the DH last year.
Speaker 2: Oh, for God's sake, that's why the regular.
Speaker 13: Season, postseason we're all DH.
Speaker 2: Now, oh, God help him with all the.
Speaker 13: H until I become ruler of baseball, then I will
Speaker 13: get rid of the DH. But right now we're all
Speaker 13: the H.
Speaker 2: Well, anyway, that's how he's gotten his hits, right, and
Speaker 2: he's uh, what is he is? The agent? He's gone
Speaker 2: six for twenty seven yeah. Yeah, in the postseason yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, but.
Speaker 13: With runners on base, he's like seventeen for twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 13: right just before the season ended. He's got a crazy,
Speaker 13: crazy line. He runners on base, he knocks him in.
Speaker 13: Of course he hits the odd leadoff home run now
Speaker 13: and then, but like but no, yeah, he's got a
Speaker 13: crazy thing. He's hitting like two hundred, but all of
Speaker 13: his hits for the last month have come with runners
Speaker 13: on base.
Speaker 2: So it was pretty wild.
Speaker 13: They called him in the Unicorn man, and he he
Speaker 13: hit that ball.
Speaker 2: Now you did you see that ball? He fouled off
Speaker 2: his crotch.
Speaker 13: I didn't see anything.
Speaker 3: I I got the at that deal.
Speaker 13: So I'm listening to the radio broadcast. I'll watch the
Speaker 13: highlights later.
Speaker 2: Well, did you hear how he fouled off the crotch.
Speaker 13: I hope he's okay, man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he looked he was in pain. I'll tell you
Speaker 7: that much he was. He was like really struggling to
Speaker 7: shake it off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was right. Yeah. But oh but chuck, uh, chuck.
Speaker 2: Count Pepper says he's on the phone line. Actually, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure.
Speaker 13: If let's Count Pepper know about baseball?
Speaker 3: Bring him in here.
Speaker 2: He's next in line. You want me to add him?
Speaker 3: And now hold on a second, you that's uh, let's
Speaker 3: put him on in line.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: You want me to leave, so you want me to
Speaker 7: leave conversations, Well, let me ask you, uncle, Let me
Speaker 7: ask you so I know what I'm doing here.
Speaker 2: You want me to leave ed on and just bring
Speaker 2: Count Popper or what? Yeah?
Speaker 3: All right, what about let's have them to talk to
Speaker 3: you proper, talk to a.
Speaker 2: I want to have that about. I'm listening to this,
Speaker 2: all right, Pupper.
Speaker 13: I'm a couple of cocktails into this man, and you
Speaker 13: better know some baseball.
Speaker 14: Like I've been having a few drinks too. I was
Speaker 14: just gonna say, I love my Phillies. They weren't playing aggressive,
Speaker 14: they weren't slinging at any of the pictures they should
Speaker 14: have been swinging at. They were being kind of a
Speaker 14: bit of a pussy and they had one the strongest
Speaker 14: openings of all time in the season, and they really
Speaker 14: let us all down, all the silly fans.
Speaker 2: So Ed, I gotta ask you, I gotta ask a question. Listen,
Speaker 2: you hope the Mets lose all he was pupper? Then
Speaker 2: all right? Anyways, listen, Ed, I got.
Speaker 13: No bard, Baby, I got a cuss.
Speaker 7: Do you think is going to recover from this Tommy
Speaker 7: John surgery? Because a lot of these pictures, I mean
Speaker 7: some do, but a lot of them they go through
Speaker 7: that Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 2: They're never the same who we're talking.
Speaker 7: About sometimes, but I mean they're never the look I said,
Speaker 7: they're never the same.
Speaker 2: I didn't say they're never better. I said they're never
Speaker 2: the same. And some of them in their careers are over.
Speaker 7: I mean, he's still got a hell of a bat apparently,
Speaker 7: So you know, I mean, you could figure a place,
Speaker 7: especially if the National League is going to keep the
Speaker 7: damn d h Uh. It makes me sick, but it's
Speaker 7: a new game, a new game that's horrible. I hate
Speaker 7: when you know, if a pitcher can throw at somebody. See,
Speaker 7: I'm telling you. They had a Japanese guy, another guy
Speaker 7: Yamamoto or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's who was picture still on Dodges.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he hit and he had a hit batsman
Speaker 7: that night, the same night as Otani hit, but one
Speaker 7: of the home runs, not the night he hit the
Speaker 7: lead off, but the night he knocked in a couple
Speaker 7: of people or whatever. That night he hit one of
Speaker 7: the mets right on the leg hard. And I said
Speaker 7: to myself, you know what, that sucks because this guy
Speaker 7: he could hit somebody. And I don't think of tany
Speaker 7: Yamamoto meant to hit him.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 7: But either way, if he did, if somebody got nasty
Speaker 7: like that, this guy needs to stand in the box.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the way I've always seen it, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well they told him, Yeah, you go out of
Speaker 3: the game to take yours take. You're out of the game,
Speaker 3: chef out and sit down on the bench.
Speaker 2: Just so what so you get Okay, I get an
Speaker 2: early night bye. So what you know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 7: No real consequence though, you know what, you throw out
Speaker 7: a star player, you hurt their star player or something. Man,
Speaker 7: you know, I got no problem with the next picture
Speaker 7: drilling one off of your back, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: because it's like turn the bouts. I mean, seriously there,
Speaker 7: you know. I mean, I know we live in the
Speaker 7: age of everybody needs to be careful with everybody. But
Speaker 7: you know, come on, either you're gonna play the game
Speaker 7: or you're not, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 7: say a pitcher has to stand in that box. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that makes sense. It's it's always odd to me.
Speaker 1: I mean I never really played baseball personally, so I
Speaker 1: always found it odd that somebody's so good at pitching
Speaker 1: that they can't turn around and back like the other
Speaker 1: players all over the field.
Speaker 2: Like, what is it about pitching? Does it wear your
Speaker 2: arm out so much? It's a totally different skill? Is
Speaker 2: it's a completely different skill? Well, isn't it a different
Speaker 2: skill from playing first base too? You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 7: But here's the thing, Eric, Look, the honest thing is
Speaker 7: if you can pitch real, real, well, you don't need
Speaker 7: to hit.
Speaker 2: Right whether or not. I mean, even when you got
Speaker 2: the class.
Speaker 7: It's a protected class. So look, if you're a good
Speaker 7: enough pitcher, we don't care if you can hit. Now
Speaker 7: Atani is a unicorn, Like.
Speaker 3: It was very good and he hits.
Speaker 2: Oh I knew who he was.
Speaker 3: He played for the Giants and he moved over to
Speaker 3: another team. I don't know what I was gardener, that's
Speaker 3: bum gardener.
Speaker 2: But you were talking about David Colen when he was
Speaker 2: with the Mets, was a good hitter.
Speaker 3: Well, you're talking about Chuck about hitting and pitching and
Speaker 3: the hitting. Bum Garner. He is a good hitter and
Speaker 3: a good swinger, a good mumper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a freak of nature though, I mean, we
Speaker 2: haven't seen.
Speaker 3: He's a freak of nature.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen a guy like this.
Speaker 3: By talking about you're talking about pitch, there's no hit.
Speaker 3: This d h stuff and this stuff he'd take. It's
Speaker 3: like taking his bat, Bumgarne, his bat away from him.
Speaker 3: And but you know he's good to hear.
Speaker 2: Well. I always, I always.
Speaker 1: I always found it odd that Otani was on the
Speaker 1: Angels in the American League the whole time, where it
Speaker 1: seems like he was clearly made to be in the
Speaker 1: National League, that he could be hitting and pitching, Like,
Speaker 1: why is this guy not on a national league team?
Speaker 2: Why the Angels?
Speaker 1: Well, see I would see no problem sticking the Dodgers
Speaker 1: the rule change, but I would see.
Speaker 7: No problems sticking him on an American League team, because
Speaker 7: you know what, where is there a rule that says
Speaker 7: you can't be a DH and a pitcher. So I
Speaker 7: would DH this guy a couple times a week and
Speaker 7: then let him pitch in his rotation, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean and they did that? Yeah, and didn't didn't
Speaker 2: the Angels do that with him? Or no? Yeah? Yeah? Anyway, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: as I recall, they did do that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know the American League.
Speaker 7: I've never been a fan of the American League, mainly
Speaker 7: for this DHS situation.
Speaker 2: But now there's no damn difference. So I it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm getting actually on this truth. I'm actually
Speaker 3: getting bored. Pum this DH. What you guys do that?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, all right, because.
Speaker 15: These DH I do agree. Like I go back to
Speaker 15: Goddill again. This guy hit the pool to the pitch
Speaker 15: and hit the pool and threw the pitch.
Speaker 3: What is wrong with a pitcher hitting a pool?
Speaker 2: It removes okay, but it removes a whole element of
Speaker 2: the game where you had. Look, let's figure out do
Speaker 2: we need.
Speaker 7: To take this guy out for a hit or now
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, do we need to bring
Speaker 7: in another bat because okay, I got a defensive shortstop.
Speaker 7: He's great a defense, but he doesn't hit worth the crap.
Speaker 7: Or we got a good catcher and we need a
Speaker 7: good catcher, but he doesn't hit.
Speaker 2: He can't run, he can't hit.
Speaker 3: How they work it, that's how the managers work it.
Speaker 3: Well said it, Chuck, But.
Speaker 7: It removes that whole element, like I don't need to
Speaker 7: worry about okay Otani. You know what I'll do, move
Speaker 7: him over and when he's done his pitching arms tired, fine,
Speaker 7: let's put him in the DH spot after, you know,
Speaker 7: swap out the DH they held it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. And that way you've
Speaker 2: got a power threat in the lineup the whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: was what he had fifty six this year fifty five
Speaker 2: something like that, ed fifty four, fifty four and he's
Speaker 2: not even a pumped.
Speaker 13: Up looking gun stolen basis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's got speed.
Speaker 7: Yeah, think about that fifty to fifty player. Yeah, I
Speaker 7: mean that's outrageous. That's ever Hall of Fame, Like he's
Speaker 7: almost guaranteed Hall of Fame already, right.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's I know that.
Speaker 3: He's kept saying. He kept saying on the interview when
Speaker 3: when he was talking to his manager, he won it
Speaker 3: go to a team that because he gets into the
Speaker 3: play of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants to win something.
Speaker 3: He should win to win something. He kept saying that
Speaker 3: oba and over again to his manager and his managers, saying,
Speaker 3: just like we're talking.
Speaker 2: Just like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to get a team that really really
Speaker 3: needs me. And like he did, he went to the Dungees. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's how it happened.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know what size contract he's gonna get,
Speaker 7: but I mean, geez, you know, even even without the
Speaker 7: pitching on them, he's saying he's got he's on.
Speaker 13: A ten year, seven hundred million guys.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's one of that. You didn't hear about that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought so, but I wasn't sure if that was
Speaker 2: like the rumored deal.
Speaker 7: But you know, you know what I mean where they
Speaker 7: always release all these things, this is what we think
Speaker 7: the deal is going to be, and then you know
Speaker 7: it doesn't turn out that way.
Speaker 13: I know, yeah, because he because he's because a good picture.
Speaker 13: You know, Clayton Kershaw was the first thirty million plus
Speaker 13: guy pitcher just as a pitcher. But Otani, he's a
Speaker 13: top line starter and a slugger, right he does. You know,
Speaker 13: he's got to get two paychecks.
Speaker 2: Here pretty much. I don't see any objection there. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: if these other guys are worth I don't either.
Speaker 7: These other guys are worth three hundred million over the
Speaker 7: course of a decade. This guy's easily worth six, you know,
Speaker 7: just saying if that's.
Speaker 13: What the going rate is and he's getting seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well so be it. Get what you can get.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's not like these franchises. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I know it hurts us because now you know.
Speaker 13: Of course, you know what he's not when he comes
Speaker 13: back from this Tommy John. See if he's still got
Speaker 13: the ninety six to one hundred mile an hour fastball
Speaker 13: and all the other pitches he has, you know, I mean,
Speaker 13: he's it's not like he can pitch, but he's so
Speaker 13: so he's a top line starter.
Speaker 7: Well see that's the other thing is it looks even
Speaker 7: if he doesn't have the val he could come back
Speaker 7: and you know, he's very intelligent.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm watching what he's doing with his process
Speaker 2: at the plate.
Speaker 7: Even he's an intelligent hitter, so you know, I'm imagining
Speaker 7: that with his stats as a pitcher's he's been very
Speaker 7: intelligent there. Some of these guys lose velocity and it's okay,
Speaker 7: you know, I mean, you don't need to be a fireman.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Kershaw lost his velocity, but he's still one of
Speaker 13: the better pictures when he's healthy, even without his velocity.
Speaker 7: Because he started utilizing a little trickery. It's like he
Speaker 7: throws you off with the with the splitter or whatever,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it's deceptive. It's about the deception out of the hand.
Speaker 7: If your fastball looks the same as the change up,
Speaker 7: you know, these guys are screwed. I mean, it's very
Speaker 7: hard to hit.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 13: Big part of baseball is the mind game, you know,
Speaker 13: between the hitter and the picture. It's a mind game.
Speaker 2: That's why. That's why I still him. That's what baseball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it works, the mind, It works, the mind exactly.
Speaker 1: Hit it, uncle, You.
Speaker 2: I think bailed on us, by the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's in the chat at turch he said
Speaker 1: he had to get going, but he's in the chat.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 1: Oh he's not there, now, get well, he's not on
Speaker 1: the phone, but he's he went, he's on the chat twitch.
Speaker 2: He said he had to get going. But we do
Speaker 2: have u we stoll ed, we stove Jimmy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna put Jimmy on with it or Jimmy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have Jimmy come on for a few minutes.
Speaker 2: You all right, whatever you want, your hour, whatever you say. Indeed,
Speaker 2: So there he goes. Now we got Jimmy on with
Speaker 2: it at the same time. So I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: they're going to talk Tigers now. Job.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 11: The North Conference is now the best in all of football.
Speaker 11: I mean we're we're were it's at now. I don't
Speaker 11: think it's out West or East. I think the Lions,
Speaker 11: the Bears, the Vikings, the Packers.
Speaker 2: I think we're the ones to be I told.
Speaker 3: You, I told you, didn't I tell you watch out
Speaker 3: for those Bears.
Speaker 2: We're back to the flyover States.
Speaker 3: They were gonna be good bears. Wait until you guys
Speaker 3: play the piss. That's gonna be a hard one to
Speaker 3: pick picking tones here. Huh yeah yeah, So uncle.
Speaker 2: You said you said you don't want to pick football.
Speaker 2: To uncle, you said, you don't want to pick football, But.
Speaker 7: Who do you think forget about who you're rooting for.
Speaker 7: Who do you think is going to be in the
Speaker 7: World Series? Who do you think is going like?
Speaker 2: Who do you think practically is most likely to be
Speaker 2: in that World Series next week?
Speaker 3: I think that Yankees will be there.
Speaker 2: Yankees will be there.
Speaker 3: They're just hanging on right now.
Speaker 2: They're hanging on right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the finding wasn't that, But I
Speaker 3: think the Yankees will be there, even though I don't
Speaker 3: know what to toss up on the other side, do.
Speaker 2: You think it's a toss up between the Mets and
Speaker 2: the Dodgers?
Speaker 3: But because of how they're how they come back, how
Speaker 3: they rek, I say, good luck, Uncle, I've come back
Speaker 3: on something. I mean, you don't want to just did
Speaker 3: it last this season with the Phillies. I'm a little
Speaker 3: tossed on that down division because of.
Speaker 10: That.
Speaker 2: Yankees won ninety four games this year.
Speaker 3: You know. But who I think's gonna win the whole thing?
Speaker 3: You might know that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big it Yankees. Man, the big Yankees.
Speaker 3: Will take either any either one of them.
Speaker 2: I hate bring them in, bring them up.
Speaker 3: I know I hate him too. I know I hate
Speaker 3: him too. I do hate them, But I'm looking at that.
Speaker 2: See, I'm gonna whether the Dodgers or the Mets make it.
Speaker 7: I'm rooting for the National League team. I'll tell you
Speaker 7: that now, because I cannot stand. I just I don't
Speaker 7: like the American League.
Speaker 2: I never have.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how they're doing it. I really
Speaker 3: don't know how the Yankees are doing it. You know,
Speaker 3: they buy the best pitching or hitting or they've always
Speaker 3: done the way they do things. It's just the way
Speaker 3: they do things. Yeah, it's real standpoint.
Speaker 2: They very intelligent say.
Speaker 3: The team is behind the people they're behind, and they still, oh,
Speaker 3: whoa coming up?
Speaker 2: Uncle.
Speaker 3: They buy the.
Speaker 2: Team to win this thing, but they get a huge
Speaker 2: payroll uncle every time. Okay, And what they do is
Speaker 2: going to cut their payroll.
Speaker 3: And this is why I don't even know how they
Speaker 3: think they do not need any more players. Well, no,
Speaker 3: they never do, because and have done players down. You
Speaker 3: got your players, live with it.
Speaker 7: Well, everybody's got the same number of players. But the
Speaker 7: thing is, the Yankees will turn around, though, and they're
Speaker 7: not only you know, every other team. Usually they got
Speaker 7: their top flight people that's their best people. And they
Speaker 7: buy a team that they think they can field and
Speaker 7: that's their top starters. Then the bench guys are always
Speaker 7: a mix, right, guys on their way to the end
Speaker 7: of their career, guys that are brand new, rookies, stuff
Speaker 7: like that, that they gotten reserve, and almost always a
Speaker 7: couple of them end up in there because the injuries or.
Speaker 2: Whatever things happen.
Speaker 7: But the Yankees will turn around out and pretty much
Speaker 7: they get top line people even on their bench.
Speaker 3: There's another reason why.
Speaker 2: I also like how they operate.
Speaker 3: Not just then I'm a Yankee fan, man, take that
Speaker 3: on in mine, but how they operate. For example, I tank.
Speaker 2: I tank the.
Speaker 3: I tank the Marlins, for example, to the Yankees, now
Speaker 3: they remember, they remember the Marlins won their first War series.
Speaker 10: Yeah, why don't you keep the tained idiot, Well, why
Speaker 10: don't you keep the team because they had a cheap
Speaker 10: teal we.
Speaker 3: Could But you see that the Yankees on the other hand,
Speaker 3: now listening here, Chuck Cloaks.
Speaker 2: But it's easy for the Yankees.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, they do not just oh, let's
Speaker 3: get rid of plays.
Speaker 2: Because look, you like that. But here's the problem. It
Speaker 2: perpetuates the idea that the richest guy in the room
Speaker 2: gets to win.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. And that's what happens there
Speaker 7: because look, the reason why the Marlins got rid of
Speaker 7: that team, and I know it bothered you, but the
Speaker 7: reason why is because now because they were winners, it
Speaker 7: was going to cost them five times as much.
Speaker 3: But they don't make good Uncle, change my point.
Speaker 2: You can't. But you can't charge people. Okay, but here
Speaker 2: here's the thing.
Speaker 3: That doesn't have the money, then get then stay out
Speaker 3: and pay for them. Yeah, but that's the thing.
Speaker 7: Then that means you only want rich cities to be there,
Speaker 7: because look, you're not going to be able to charge
Speaker 7: the same money to go to a game in Miami
Speaker 7: as you are in New York City. You can't charge
Speaker 7: the same for a hot dog and shirt and nothing.
Speaker 7: They don't have the same money.
Speaker 2: About Milwaukee? What is Bill Walker? Cleveland?
Speaker 3: Cleveland? Cleveland?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know? Or these second tiers? All right? Fine,
Speaker 2: you know California's got freaking what six teams already or whatever.
Speaker 3: We got six teams and loncal we got six teams
Speaker 3: sittingy and we got done. Its just hanging on for
Speaker 3: one more game. Beginning this wool city. Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 3: then and you and you're complaining the pout and you're
Speaker 3: complain of he's rich, greenbul but.
Speaker 2: LA has money. Okay, But here's the thing. It's the
Speaker 2: teams with the money that get to win, right, He's so.
Speaker 7: But if that's all it is, then it's a big
Speaker 7: casino game and it's got nothing to do with the sport.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. That's why I like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hate them, get yeah, but who doesn't that bother you?
Speaker 3: The sports? Mine?
Speaker 2: Come on, doesn't that bother you a little bit? Only
Speaker 2: the rich guys that? Okay, tell me about it. I
Speaker 2: get my points out. Go ahead, give me give him
Speaker 2: the point. Give him the point because I'm not making
Speaker 2: my point. Go ahead. You may just not making this point. Okay.
Speaker 13: Look, if you own a ball club, and now, ball
Speaker 13: clubs are usually owned by ownership groups, not just like
Speaker 13: you know, the O'Malley's or or what was the guys
Speaker 13: that used to own the Yankees, the.
Speaker 2: What was the guy's names? Out? What it is?
Speaker 13: All these teams make money, but not all of them
Speaker 13: want to spend money. Now, you got whoever, I don't
Speaker 13: know who owns the Yankees now. But the Dodgers got
Speaker 13: five six guys and they're clearly baseball fans, so they
Speaker 13: put their money into the team. And the Yankees obviously
Speaker 13: are still doing the same thing. Whoever's running that team now.
Speaker 13: I follow the Mariners a bit too, because they're the
Speaker 13: local team. They're making money, but they don't want to
Speaker 13: put the money out. But they get really close, all right,
Speaker 13: but Ed, let me ask you, it really close.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 13: But they get a good pitching staff like this year. Yeah,
Speaker 13: but they didn't put out The Dodgers have ta Oscar
Speaker 13: Hernandez who had a great year. He was a Mariner
Speaker 13: last year. Okay, but Mariners didn't want to pay him.
Speaker 7: Okay, Ed, But here's the thing. Here's the thing about
Speaker 7: them not wanting to pay and everything else. There is
Speaker 7: also a very simple, simple barrier here. You cannot make
Speaker 7: the same money.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: Los Angeles, New York. These are big cities. There are
Speaker 7: very rich people there. You charged two hundred dollars for
Speaker 7: a decent ticket, somebody's gonna buy that ticket.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: They were trying to put a team in New Jersey
Speaker 7: about twenty five years ago or so, and I was
Speaker 7: involved in these discussions. They were talking about putting two
Speaker 7: different professional teams into New Jersey and both of them
Speaker 7: were turned away. Okay, and why the football team might
Speaker 7: have been able to make enough money, but because you know,
Speaker 7: Giant Stadium was in New Jersey and everything else.
Speaker 2: It was like, look, that might work, but that's once
Speaker 2: a week. When you you got one hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: two game season.
Speaker 7: The locals in New Jersey were not going to be
Speaker 7: able to support a team the way New York does.
Speaker 7: That was the direct comparison. It was like, yeah, but
Speaker 7: Philadelphia is not a rich city. Yeah, but where are
Speaker 7: you going to put this team?
Speaker 2: Newark?
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, It's too close and anybody's
Speaker 7: going to go do I want to watch this new,
Speaker 7: brand new thing that you know has nobody's on it,
Speaker 7: a bunch of broken down old guys and brand new
Speaker 7: rookies because that's what they're going to start with. So
Speaker 7: I want to go even pay for that ticket in Newark? No,
Speaker 7: nobody wants to do that. Where are you gonna put it?
Speaker 7: Atlantic City? Maybe right, because at least there's an airport
Speaker 7: nearby and all this, But these are the two places, right,
Speaker 7: You got Newark in Atlantic City, and Jersey's not that
Speaker 7: big a place, but they seriously considered putting a baseball
Speaker 7: team in there, and then it was decided based on
Speaker 7: the fact that you need to raise a certain amount
Speaker 7: of revenue to maintain even the league's smallest budget when
Speaker 7: it comes to players and everything else, that it was
Speaker 7: like not financially tenable. Like if somebody wanted to buy
Speaker 7: this as like a you know, as like a vanity thing,
Speaker 7: like you know how Trump owned the New Jersey Generals
Speaker 7: back when we had the USFL, that kind of thing
Speaker 7: that was for vanity.
Speaker 2: That wasn't because he was serious about football, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 7: So the thing is, if somebody wants this as a
Speaker 7: vanity thing, I always wanted to own a team, but
Speaker 7: I can't buy one of these you know, billion dollar teams,
Speaker 7: right because I'm not the guy who owes the Dallas
Speaker 7: Mavericks or I'm not one of these you know billionaires
Speaker 7: from the past. I mean, Steinbrenner was a shipping magnet, right.
Speaker 7: He made his money from big ships and stuff. He
Speaker 7: was building ships. He had a bank to be able
Speaker 7: to start with to put into it. He could put
Speaker 7: big money in and he could pull big money out.
Speaker 7: But like say they put a team in New Jersey, Realistically,
Speaker 7: with the competition the way it is and how much
Speaker 7: you can charge people, locals in New Jersey don't make
Speaker 7: as much. Even the commuters going to New York, they
Speaker 7: don't have as much. So you try and put that there.
Speaker 7: You try and put it in Oregon, or where's another
Speaker 7: good one. If we go down a little bit North Carolina,
Speaker 7: say you put in a Carolina baseball team, the money
Speaker 7: is not going to be there. So you can't field
Speaker 7: a two hundred million dollar roster of players and have
Speaker 7: a stadium, even with the tax breaks which they give
Speaker 7: to these guys, which is another funny thing where it's
Speaker 7: like the city or the state lines up paying for
Speaker 7: the stadiums and all this stuff. In Seattle, they got
Speaker 7: homeless guys. The Mariners, they got homeless guys selling their beer.
Speaker 7: You know this right, No, literally, there are homeless guys
Speaker 7: that line up to go sell beer and stuff and
Speaker 7: go walk around the stadium and make a couple of dollars.
Speaker 7: They don't even have steady employees doing stuff like that
Speaker 7: at the stadium because the Mariners don't have the budget
Speaker 7: for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, like how the.
Speaker 11: Packers pay their uh fans to shovel the snow.
Speaker 2: There you go. How much money is there in Green Bay?
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Green Bay is a staple of
Speaker 2: the NFL and everything, but realistically, can they compete financially
Speaker 2: with the New York Giants.
Speaker 7: The only way they can is because they turn around
Speaker 7: with his revenue sharing and they try and even it out.
Speaker 7: But Major League Baseball, no matter what lip service they've
Speaker 7: ever delivered to that, if you are not in a
Speaker 7: moneyed city, you are not likely to be able to survive.
Speaker 7: This is why, you know, after a while California, because
Speaker 7: why does California have so many teams? Because it's the
Speaker 7: fourth largest economy on the planet. That's the only reason
Speaker 7: why they can support it.
Speaker 2: Right, I can understand that now they're way down.
Speaker 7: But look, but now the Oakland areas are going to leave,
Speaker 7: right So the Oakland A's leaving and a few other
Speaker 7: teams have threatened to leave over the past few years.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, what leason reason for that?
Speaker 7: Because the money in Oakland is not That's why you know,
Speaker 7: they say, give us a new stadium, and they're like,
Speaker 7: we got people crapping on the streets, we got it.
Speaker 7: We got to fix our streets before we give you
Speaker 7: a new stadium. And they want a stadium tax free.
Speaker 7: So somebody like Las Vegas or whatever offered the age.
Speaker 7: I don't know if they're going, but I do know
Speaker 7: the offer was there where it's like, look, we'll build
Speaker 7: you a baseball stadium in Las Vegas, no problem, come
Speaker 7: on in. We'll give you the tax breaks. That's a
Speaker 7: huge thing. Oh yes, that's like Oakland.
Speaker 3: Oakland went back and they went to.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So they're gonna turn around to use so they're gonna
Speaker 7: use revenue from the casinos to support the fact that
Speaker 7: they're not going to charge the baseball team. They'll give
Speaker 7: them a decade tax three over there, and so that
Speaker 7: tax break right there will pay for half of their roster,
Speaker 7: whether fans show up or not.
Speaker 3: You see, yeah, I see what you're saying, sotand it now.
Speaker 2: So my point is, okay, yeah you can get like okay,
Speaker 2: you got like stay in Texas. Texas, huge state, big contributor.
Speaker 2: They've been growing, their economy is doing well. But can
Speaker 2: they support more than the Astros right and the Rangers.
Speaker 2: I'd really like to see a Marfa team emerge. What
Speaker 2: do you mean marka team.
Speaker 1: It's a tiny little it's a tiny little place in
Speaker 1: West Texas.
Speaker 2: It's a tiny little desert spot. A team emerged there.
Speaker 2: Oh you mean in like Marfa, Texas? Or Okay, yeah
Speaker 2: you said Texas. I thought I mentioned some remote Yeah.
Speaker 2: But if you wanted to put the San Antonio Stars
Speaker 2: baseball team into existence right now, you couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, like that city will not support
Speaker 2: a team. It just can't.
Speaker 7: How about this, You know, Alabama probably would love to
Speaker 7: have a baseball team, but the state has broke. Kentucky
Speaker 7: another place. Who's in Kentucky?
Speaker 2: Anybody? No?
Speaker 7: You know you got Missouri does better than any of
Speaker 7: these places. They got two They got two teams, one
Speaker 7: in each league. Right still, the Cardinals and the Royals
Speaker 7: are both in Missourhurry right. Yes, you got Pennsylvania, which
Speaker 7: is a mixed bag, but on the two ends of
Speaker 7: Pennsylvania where there's money. See, they got Philly in the
Speaker 7: east and they got Pittsburgh in the west. People don't
Speaker 7: realize how big a state Pennsylvania is, so there is
Speaker 7: a huge divide there the middle of that state, though,
Speaker 7: is there any money in the middle of that state.
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know what the Amish really have.
Speaker 2: I could attest to you that there are not there
Speaker 2: is not money there.
Speaker 1: You do not see a Mercedes Benz driving anywhere in
Speaker 1: central Pennsylvania. Maybe in Harrisburg, but not many of them, right,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 7: I'm super surprised that the Pittsburgh Pirates have not been
Speaker 7: picked up by another place.
Speaker 2: Okay, like like Florida. I think Florida should have the
Speaker 2: money to be able to support more than one team.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they could go to Pittsburgh. That would
Speaker 3: knock out those morlins to get them. So one's out
Speaker 3: of the well.
Speaker 7: If you put the Florida Pirates, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: If you put whatever you wanted to name him, I
Speaker 7: don't know, put them near Disney over there or something
Speaker 7: right where, you know what I mean? Orlando, Orlando, the
Speaker 7: Orlando Pirates plant.
Speaker 2: Put the plant?
Speaker 3: Yeah, now could they? Would you say in Orlando? Now
Speaker 3: do you think if they decided that's for example, say okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to Orlando pitch I mean, uh, the Pirates say,
Speaker 3: and would you think they'd be able to make a feel.
Speaker 2: Well, see It depends on what kind of a deal
Speaker 2: de Santa Stan wants to make for him. Right.
Speaker 7: You know, there's a the Santas State and people literally
Speaker 7: live there called the Santa Stan by the way, like
Speaker 7: like he's running his own republic over there. But because
Speaker 7: he's if he wasn't at war with Disney, I'll tell
Speaker 7: you it'll be an easy thing.
Speaker 2: All you'd have to do is you kind of tweak.
Speaker 7: The Pirates logos and stuff a little bit, and you
Speaker 7: make them like, you know, as if they're the Orlando
Speaker 7: Pirates of the Caribbean, right, and it's like that ship.
Speaker 3: That's how that I watch you couple.
Speaker 2: Them up with Disney.
Speaker 7: Right, so you have Mickey Mouse at the ballpark and
Speaker 7: you get like a special brand new just because of
Speaker 7: the new city. You get a new pirate that looks
Speaker 7: a lot more like Johnny Depp than that that that
Speaker 7: pirate they got, right, and then sometimes you have them
Speaker 7: in the classic unitport. I'm telling you it's instant marketing
Speaker 7: success the Pirates.
Speaker 2: That would be supply that does make Johnny token owner. Yeah,
Speaker 2: make Johnny Depp a token owner, right, give them one
Speaker 2: percent of the team.
Speaker 3: You know he's got money. Well, give me don't have money.
Speaker 3: He's been doing all these shows.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm not telling it saying give it to him
Speaker 7: for free. What I'm saying, let him buy in for
Speaker 7: one percent of the team, so he's got a little
Speaker 7: bit of a stake, right, And then you know, Johnny
Speaker 7: Depp is part owner of the Even if you're on
Speaker 7: two percent of the team, he'd be the only guy
Speaker 7: they would talk about. So I'm telling you it's all built,
Speaker 7: it's all pap right in. You can move the Pirates
Speaker 7: to Florida tomorrow and.
Speaker 2: Even put them in a hurricane disaster area.
Speaker 7: In six months, the whole place would be revived, no problem.
Speaker 7: But if you tried to move the Pirates to New Jersey,
Speaker 7: it's over.
Speaker 2: There's no New Jersey that.
Speaker 11: The chief can make it because of the money situation
Speaker 11: and the proximity to the city. Yeah, but what about
Speaker 11: like the Barter District, like Elizabeth Town or wherever it is.
Speaker 11: There's a lot of money that way.
Speaker 2: No, it's horrible. You don't understand. I'm telling you. People
Speaker 2: do not do stuff locally. They don't.
Speaker 7: Even this was one of the challenges with the music
Speaker 7: scenes that have come and gone with New Jersey. Where
Speaker 7: it's like we have these temporary music scenes pop up,
Speaker 7: and Asbury Park was one of them.
Speaker 2: But it took them thirty years.
Speaker 7: To revitalize Asbury Park. They couldn't get construction or the
Speaker 7: gentrification off the ground for over thirty years in Asbury Park. Okay,
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, Jersey is not the place to go.
Speaker 7: It's a sinkhole for money. It's not a place where
Speaker 7: you make money. And even in that areas you're talking
Speaker 7: about during the time when it was like a massive
Speaker 7: you know, chemical they were putting out, you know, tons
Speaker 7: and tons of chemical crap, and you know, the e
Speaker 7: PA wasn't regulating them to death pre Nixon, pre Nixon,
Speaker 7: that part of Jersey plenty of money there. You know,
Speaker 7: you could add the New Jersey petro Chemicals, name it right, whatever,
Speaker 7: it wouldn't have mattered, the New Jersey.
Speaker 2: Landfills, it would have been great. Whatever, it would have
Speaker 2: been hysterical, it would have been a joke, or even
Speaker 2: the best thing would have been or more New Jersey Devils.
Speaker 2: Continue on with the legendary devils. Oh yeah, the.
Speaker 7: Doubles, you know, and then you could the hockey. You
Speaker 7: couple it up with the hockey. Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: the jersey is so bad.
Speaker 2: It's got two devils. Baby, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And you just do it like that. And uh, there's
Speaker 2: all sorts of markets.
Speaker 11: The Texas to have the Colts and the forty five.
Speaker 13: You know what there was?
Speaker 2: Now, wait a minute, there was a Cults. There was
Speaker 2: a baseball Coults team too. Did you know that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: let me let me take a look at the history.
Speaker 2: I don't think they existed long, but let me still
Speaker 2: what I think. I think we're at the end of
Speaker 2: the show here, every.
Speaker 3: Well, we are, but the show. We'll have a good
Speaker 3: conversation at the end of the show.
Speaker 2: Okay before you exactly listen, No, we don't have a yet, Aaron.
Speaker 7: Uncle calm down, everybody calm down. You got five minutes
Speaker 7: over because Uncle started a little late. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: so you got five extra minutes, so you got your
Speaker 7: time for your shoutouts and everything.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. And I'll shut up after I.
Speaker 7: Find out the thing about the cold forty five Okay,
Speaker 7: goes downstate the.
Speaker 5: Time.
Speaker 11: It's gonna turn them in. Now I'm gonna have to
Speaker 11: call back in because it kicks me off or something.
Speaker 2: All Right, you ready for this one.
Speaker 7: In nineteen sixty two, the Houston Colt forty five's were
Speaker 7: an expansion team in the American Major League Baseball's National League. Okay,
Speaker 7: so they were a National League expansion team in nineteen
Speaker 7: sixty two.
Speaker 3: How come we haven't noticed these teams?
Speaker 7: As what was said was we're handing them forgotten because
Speaker 7: they didn't exist very long.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. So I'm looking at this page here
Speaker 2: and it's not telling me how long they existed.
Speaker 7: But they were an expansion team in sixty two, which
Speaker 7: is funny because they come.
Speaker 2: In the same year the Mets.
Speaker 3: Doo ooh see there was two.
Speaker 7: They always have the two expansion teams right every time.
Speaker 7: So they came in with the Mets in sixty to
Speaker 7: sixty two. The Mets lost what one hundred and twenty
Speaker 7: five games or something ridiculous, like almost every game they
Speaker 7: pretty much lost.
Speaker 2: I mean, their catcher's name was Choo Choo Coleman, I
Speaker 2: kid you not ch and the guy who.
Speaker 7: Became a famous uh San Francisco Giants manager Roger Craig
Speaker 7: played third base for them. He was probably one of
Speaker 7: their best players in sixty two, and seven years later
Speaker 7: they won the World Series.
Speaker 3: He played ball.
Speaker 2: Roger Craig played third base for the nineteen sixty two Mets.
Speaker 2: Absolutely did.
Speaker 11: I'll be damn yeah.
Speaker 2: I used to have a yeah, no, you look, you
Speaker 2: can check with Eddie next time we talked to him.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you back me up on that.
Speaker 7: But it just off the top of my head, these
Speaker 7: things I know about the initial Mets. It's so funny
Speaker 7: because they used to half celebrate the inauguration because it
Speaker 7: was so embarrassing. Was the worst start of any expansion
Speaker 7: team in history.
Speaker 2: The JFK guy.
Speaker 11: Remember Roger Craig, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: But you remember Roger Craig, the San Francisco Giant manager
Speaker 7: I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 11: I'm proud of amusing that they had the same name. No,
Speaker 11: me too, and Roger.
Speaker 7: It is amusing, But again it's two common names. You
Speaker 7: got to figure they got to come together here and
Speaker 7: there in history. Right, Roger not exactly an uncommon My
Speaker 7: one grandfather's name was Roger, one of the Irish ones
Speaker 7: uh and uh and and Craig Craig is not exactly
Speaker 7: an uncommon first or last name, right.
Speaker 11: So you know, it's just just that is like once
Speaker 11: I was overseas and I swear these British people were
Speaker 11: trying to test my military discipline with these names. Here
Speaker 11: comes Sir Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: I said, a lot of that's.
Speaker 7: Done on purpose, a lot of that's done on You
Speaker 7: got to feel bad for somebody though, that gets hung
Speaker 7: with a name, like somebody thought it was a clever
Speaker 7: idea when they were born. Like I'll tell you the truth,
Speaker 7: I knew probably about I don't know, nine or ten
Speaker 7: kids over the years that were named Michael Jackson. You know,
Speaker 7: like their last name was Jackson. And because the family
Speaker 7: like Michael, like even a little bit older than me,
Speaker 7: so like the kids worn in nineteen seventy And why
Speaker 7: did they name him that? Because Michael Jackson was a
Speaker 7: little kid on TV. Right, he was already famous as
Speaker 7: a little kid. So they're like thinking, I'll give him
Speaker 7: a star's name, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you know?
Speaker 3: Did you know something about Michael Jackson?
Speaker 2: I know a lot of things about Michael Jackson. Can't
Speaker 2: know anything.
Speaker 3: He was born the same time as me.
Speaker 7: Michael Jackson, we were worn the same time as you
Speaker 7: fifty eight in nineteen fifty eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I found that out when he passed.
Speaker 2: I was not aware of that. I never knew that.
Speaker 7: I knew that he was a little kid, you know,
Speaker 7: around the time that like I was a little kid,
Speaker 7: and I was watching reruns of TV shows that he
Speaker 7: was on as a little kid from like seven eight,
Speaker 7: ten years earlier.
Speaker 2: That's all I knew. And they had the Jackson five cartoons.
Speaker 3: Actually, I didn't know that until so when he passed,
Speaker 3: they showed him this is when who was born?
Speaker 2: This when he died.
Speaker 3: So they show it that to say when he was bulling,
Speaker 3: and I looked at that, said, yeah.
Speaker 2: I was born August August twenty nine, nineteen fifty eight. Apparently. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, uncle, do we want to shot outs? Because
Speaker 2: they're again about that time?
Speaker 3: All right, Jimmy, who's uh is the head on the show?
Speaker 10: It on?
Speaker 2: There? No, No, Ed is gone. It is gone. Okay.
Speaker 7: But here's the thing about those uh, here's the thing
Speaker 7: about those cold forty five's just really quick. The reason
Speaker 7: why they didn't exist too long is because they became
Speaker 7: guess who the Houston Astros.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, Oh, so they came pumed up being the Astros.
Speaker 2: Oh, uncle, forty five boys. Forty five boy. The standard
Speaker 2: is almost well.
Speaker 7: And the reason why, if you remember, the reason why
Speaker 7: they named the Houston Astros the Houston Astros is it
Speaker 7: was a big deal because as they came up with
Speaker 7: the Astro Dome, and it was the association with NASA
Speaker 7: and Lendon.
Speaker 2: Vaines, Johnson and uh and and all of that.
Speaker 7: Remember a lot of that stuff came out of Texas
Speaker 7: because Johnson put all that stuff there to give out
Speaker 7: jobs to was you know, his political uh, his political
Speaker 7: uh friends.
Speaker 3: At this point, I don't know, only as long as
Speaker 3: the cheeties are out of it and the team exactly
Speaker 3: always point point actually when this ended his baseball, all right,
Speaker 3: then let's talk shoutouts here now Jimmy as jim Jimmy's up,
Speaker 3: I guess he's Let's.
Speaker 2: Take a look at who's up on the line first.
Speaker 2: I think Jimmy is still sitting there. Let's see. Uh
Speaker 2: oh wait, you know what, you also got Eddie back
Speaker 2: and we okay, So.
Speaker 3: So here's what you do.
Speaker 7: We can bring on Jimmy and Eddie are both called
Speaker 7: in at the same time. All right, So you want
Speaker 7: to put them both on the same time. Well, put
Speaker 7: them put the shout out the same time.
Speaker 2: Put the shout outs or you want him one at
Speaker 2: a time?
Speaker 3: Which one, o, one a time? Both of those go one?
Speaker 2: Two? Yeah, who's first? Oh, they called in almost exactly
Speaker 2: the same time. So who's first because they called back
Speaker 2: in both of them. Jimmy, Yeah, yeah, Jimmy, jim you
Speaker 2: got it. Jimmy, you're up. You're live and loud. I
Speaker 2: hope Jimmy. Oh, Jimmy should be live and loud. I
Speaker 2: got his phone line depressed here, and uh, he was
Speaker 2: a little upset at my show, but hopefully cheered up
Speaker 2: with your show. All right, I'm gonna put Jimmy back
Speaker 2: on hold.
Speaker 7: And I'm pretty sure I got ed the mailing guy here,
Speaker 7: although he's calling from a different number. I got one
Speaker 7: number that literally comes up and says ed mailing guy
Speaker 7: because I'm Mark.
Speaker 3: The ID and mewing guy.
Speaker 2: Now let's see we are hey, can you hears? What's
Speaker 2: the issue here? All right?
Speaker 3: With the lines? Now shutout?
Speaker 2: We're at the end of the show. We run the show.
Speaker 3: We got no shout outs because we've got a pub
Speaker 3: with the lines.
Speaker 2: How's that?
Speaker 7: Well, it's either that or if you want to take look,
Speaker 7: if you want to take a quick break, I could
Speaker 7: just pull them back in, or do you want to
Speaker 7: just close out the show.
Speaker 2: I think we should just close it out.
Speaker 3: Close out the show for now, and then figgle them
Speaker 3: out for next week.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 7: Look much appreciation and apologies both to Ed and Jimmy James.
Speaker 7: We had a little issue with the phone line here
Speaker 7: disconnected from our our setup, so I could call you
Speaker 7: back in, but we're at the end of the show.
Speaker 2: So how about shout outs from sidekick and and you.
Speaker 2: So I can't thank you for listening to the show.
Speaker 1: Everybody that's watching the livestream, thank you you Twitch Kick,
Speaker 1: had Uncle podcast also Twitter, so thank you for that.
Speaker 2: You got Uncle.
Speaker 3: Shut out to you on the listeners out of the
Speaker 3: United States, whoever they are, Holly, I'm gonna come next
Speaker 3: week and the ones that were on the show.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I guess that's it Uncle Uncle podcast
Speaker 1: dot com or tell you lady every Saturday night.
Speaker 2: For that.
Speaker 3: Maybe I was just wondering because I was wanting on Wenday.
Speaker 2: Thirty first is out of Thursday.
Speaker 7: But we could arrange sure, I said, I said that
Speaker 7: we could arrange for a Thursday if you guys, If
Speaker 7: you guys have the time on a Thursday, if you
Speaker 7: want want to change your time just for a Halloween
Speaker 7: special and then skip the Friday show, will be fine
Speaker 7: by me.
Speaker 2: They be that's been on your book. Maybe yeah, maybe nobody.
Speaker 2: We'll see to you.
Speaker 3: Guys, that's maybe be possible.
Speaker 2: Did you cut your live stream?
Speaker 7: Aaron?
Speaker 2: What's that? Did you cut your live stream? Yes? Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: cool I cut that out