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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Age of Transitions and your host,

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<v Speaker 1>about this, this one small show in a giant ocean

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<v Speaker 1>of infinite podcasts these days. So it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge body of water that I'm in, so any bit

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate that. So we are back. We're here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exciting. I am happy to be here. I feel energized.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel pretty well rested here. That's always a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just it's it's hard to know where to begin.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many different things happening all at once, but

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<v Speaker 1>really it's one big story happening and overhanging all of

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<v Speaker 1>the drama, all of the distractions, all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>were worked up and directed towards. Our attention is constantly

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<v Speaker 1>being directed in all sorts of directions, which is fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>to pick apart the untold numbers of propaganda campaigns that

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<v Speaker 1>are assaulting us at all hours of the day, even

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<v Speaker 1>while we sleep, Even while even while you sleep, they

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<v Speaker 1>will find you acting on your best behavior. Right, Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to rule the world, and the way that they

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<v Speaker 1>do it is by crafting these clever little narratives that

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<v Speaker 1>play to the fancies of public discourse and the tastes

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<v Speaker 1>of the average person, the tastes that we're supposed to have,

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<v Speaker 1>the tastes that so often we've been programmed with, the

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<v Speaker 1>ideas have already been implanted into us by various methods

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<v Speaker 1>through our upbringing and existence in this bizarre, artificial world

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<v Speaker 1>that we have no real control or say over. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't ask for the world to be this way, and

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<v Speaker 1>now that we're in it, we have very little recourse

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<v Speaker 1>in changing it. Because it's a giant behemoth that's running

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<v Speaker 1>on its own energy, and it has its own agendas,

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<v Speaker 1>and it does its own thing, and that can be

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<v Speaker 1>quite frustrating and difficult. It can be disempowering to know

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<v Speaker 1>that it is a reality. It is a truth that

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<v Speaker 1>we live in a world like that giant artificial machine

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<v Speaker 1>that has its way with us. And we like to

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<v Speaker 1>pretend like we're in control, but we're not. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think actual freedom and actual self actualization and anything valuable,

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<v Speaker 1>any little bit of anything valuable we can actually take.

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<v Speaker 1>I think starts with surrendering to the fact that this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is out of control. It is above and

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<v Speaker 1>beyond us. We are within it. It dictates a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of our life. However, we can go outside of it

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond it to to our own ends, to our

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<v Speaker 1>own purposes, in our own lives. We can do certain things,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can we can have a meaningful existence in

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<v Speaker 1>the midst of this.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>Have fun and the knowledge of knowing how crazy everything

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<v Speaker 1>is and making the absurd decision not to take everything

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<v Speaker 1>so seriously all the time, learning to let go so

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<v Speaker 1>just of so many different things that we just can't control.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, It's all right. Easier said than done, though, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm here talking a big game, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>This.

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<v Speaker 1>This is everybody's battle. We're all in the same boat.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all dealing with the same things. So there is,

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<v Speaker 1>there is, and there can be a sense of solidarity,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, in the human condition itself, and that we

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<v Speaker 1>do still retain that we are still basic, basically the

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<v Speaker 1>same biological organisms, human beings, living out finite short lives,

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<v Speaker 1>relatively short, but relatively long. It is a very extremely

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<v Speaker 1>relative thing. Our entire existence and time. One way you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it, we are. The amount of time we

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<v Speaker 1>spend here is absolutely nothing. If you go from the

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<v Speaker 1>macrocosmic view and you go outwards and look in. If

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<v Speaker 1>you go the further, you go out and look in

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<v Speaker 1>toward the earth and at us, you see how tiny

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<v Speaker 1>and how short, and how we are really a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of nothing in that grand scheme of things. However, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go the opposite direction, in the same abstract, ethereal

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<v Speaker 1>immaterial space that is our own minds and our own

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<v Speaker 1>conscious awareness. You can go the other direction inside and

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<v Speaker 1>you can see even the workings of your mind, your psyche,

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<v Speaker 1>your soul or whatever, right, whatever, however we want to

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<v Speaker 1>describe what that identity of our inner selves is, it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely there. It's definitely a real thing, and what it

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<v Speaker 1>is able to do the sorts of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the attainment of an epiphany. I hope you've all experienced

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<v Speaker 1>this at some point in your life, hopefully several and

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<v Speaker 1>many times in your life you've had this happen. A

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<v Speaker 1>life without such experience would be a life not ourselving.

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<v Speaker 1>But such is the sort of thing that I think

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<v Speaker 1>is constantly being stolen from us. But anyway, the attainment

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<v Speaker 1>of such things gives you the realization that within an instant,

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<v Speaker 1>time loses meaning, and realizations made by your individual conscious

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<v Speaker 1>aware of self can have ramifications that are so far

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<v Speaker 1>reaching that you've attained something that transcends time, something that's

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<v Speaker 1>a permanent.

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<v Speaker 2>Truth. Right, So the attainment of.

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<v Speaker 1>That, when you pull that sort of thing off, you

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<v Speaker 1>realize you have interesting epiphanies about the human experience. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>going all the way within, all the way within, all

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<v Speaker 1>the way without are useful. I think it's also useful

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<v Speaker 1>an epiphany to be had to see how short and

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<v Speaker 1>how insignificant we are. But simultaneously, how in the matter

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<v Speaker 1>of one second you can experience an eternity. These are

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<v Speaker 1>things that we're able to do. Meanwhile, our focus has

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<v Speaker 1>been redirected, as I was saying earlier, to more important things,

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<v Speaker 1>the daily business of living life. Whatever that even means anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really mean much of anything. The meaning of

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<v Speaker 1>our lives has been stripped away from us so many fronts,

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<v Speaker 1>these sorts of things. Our attention has been. What we

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<v Speaker 1>have given attention to is usually inconsequential, but blown up

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<v Speaker 1>into such a big deal that we're supposed to think

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<v Speaker 1>it means everything. And so with that little preface, I

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<v Speaker 1>will return to a subject I talked about on the

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<v Speaker 1>last show, being this election that we're in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four presidential election. But it's there's other elections going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you've done your research on the local propositions

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<v Speaker 1>that you may be voting on this time around.

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<v Speaker 2>So and there was.

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<v Speaker 1>A point that I think I made last week, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I didn't. So I'm going to return to It

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<v Speaker 1>is that con that has been drilled into our heads

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<v Speaker 1>that this is the last election that America is going

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<v Speaker 1>to have.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the end of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic process of voting as we know it. That general

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<v Speaker 1>concept has been put out across all channels from what

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<v Speaker 1>I gather, every It doesn't matter what your political persuasion is,

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<v Speaker 1>you have been told this by the appropriate authorities. They

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<v Speaker 1>have told you that this is the case. So my

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<v Speaker 1>guess is that you're in agreement with this general statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's not to say that you can't spin that

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<v Speaker 1>general sentiment in any which direction into whatever your political

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<v Speaker 1>pre elections happen to be. Just insert those onto that

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<v Speaker 1>general idea. That's how things work here, that's how our

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<v Speaker 1>democracy has worked for so long. Is in the cynical

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<v Speaker 1>way is that you just played to the political base

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<v Speaker 1>of these two parties. But even that is starting to

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<v Speaker 1>fall apart, right, So the world that we knew, that

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<v Speaker 1>so many took for granted is beginning to crumble tear

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<v Speaker 1>part if the seems right, and everybody's freaking out about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's upset about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's illegitimate that the freaking out over

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<v Speaker 1>these things happening. And regular listeners to the show know

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<v Speaker 1>that I take seriously what's happening here in the country

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<v Speaker 1>and the world, and yes, with this election, I do

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<v Speaker 1>think it is consequential, but it's it's pretty wild to

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<v Speaker 1>see just this general idea that this is the last election,

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<v Speaker 1>that the voting system is broken one way or another,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're seeing all sorts of interesting examples of that

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<v Speaker 1>concept coming in now it is beginning to become common

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge that that we're in for trouble here on November fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all realized that November fifth is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come. The results are going to come in. Somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be cleared the official winner, right, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them. One of them is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the official winner. But at that point the election

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<v Speaker 1>clearly is not over because there will be contention from

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<v Speaker 1>the other side saying, hey, look, this election wasn't fair

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<v Speaker 1>because and then in certain the reasons given whoever the candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever the candidates are a winner and loser. It's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>crazy to think. It's pretty wild, and yeah, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a mess. My gosh, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a mess, So get ready for that. It's a foregone

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion as far as I'm concerned, that that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the outcome, but how that plays out will

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting, will be significant. I'll say once again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to downplay any of this. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is all serious, and even with my preface at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning that this is all just a bunch of bs

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<v Speaker 1>that we're forced to live through which ultimately is the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still we're still being put through the ringer on

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<v Speaker 1>this one, and it's does not bode well for our

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<v Speaker 1>collective future for sure. So we'll just see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>But certainly, those of us who have been around the

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<v Speaker 1>block for a while now and have been looking into

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<v Speaker 1>the different corners of hidden knowledge that we're not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be looking at, none of this should come as

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise like a Stone election. Yes, of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a whole lot of so wet. It's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of shrugging the shoulders. A corrupt system, Yes, we've

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<v Speaker 1>had one for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it getting worse? Of course it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's designed to be that way, these sorts of concepts.

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<v Speaker 1>It is significant that that general sentiment is no longer fringe,

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<v Speaker 1>but rather mainstream. I would say that that is actually true.

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<v Speaker 1>political system, social economic reality that we're dealing with here

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<v Speaker 1>in our country. Nobody's happy with it, and there's very

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<v Speaker 1>real reasons as to why that is now taking a

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<v Speaker 1>not that complicated reasons as to what's going on here,

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<v Speaker 1>are often obscured by all this window dressing once again

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<v Speaker 1>from the multitude of propaganda campaigns that are just barraging

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<v Speaker 1>us now. So no one should be faulted for having

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty in the face of all this and for being misled.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have been misled over and over time and

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<v Speaker 1>That's glaringly obvious. Nothing is simply given to us, that's

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain the basic, a basic living, a basic, basic

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<v Speaker 1>That does not occur. What happens is when people get anything,

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<v Speaker 1>greater power, greater influence, greater wealth. So not only do

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<v Speaker 2>Us to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get by within that exists for the benefit of those

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<v Speaker 1>who own the whole thing. I mean, that's basically just

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening. And the government exists as a an administrative

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<v Speaker 1>apparatus that is essentially controlled by these same people. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you have that money influenced power, you use it to

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<v Speaker 1>just buy favor from that administrative entity that we call government. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how the basic breakdown. I mean, it's not complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not fancy. That's what's happening. We could get lost

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<v Speaker 1>in the weeds and complaining about this or that, and

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<v Speaker 1>we could believe the stupid propaganda campaigns that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>intellectually killed with, intellectually wounded to the point where we

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<v Speaker 1>think the battle is here on the ground. New Civil

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<v Speaker 1>War style, brother against brother. We're fighting each other here

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<v Speaker 1>in the trenches, right, So we at the bottom level

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<v Speaker 1>of society, which is pretty much everybody except for a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny handful of people or on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. But the rest of us are all here

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<v Speaker 1>fighting each other because we've been made to believe that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we change things. And I mean this proves

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<v Speaker 1>itself true time and time again. And this isn't to say,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to the election, that separate candidates do not

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<v Speaker 1>represent differing interests. They do different power interests. Yes, different

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<v Speaker 1>investors come along and invest in one side and the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Specific business reasons for doing so, that's what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They want more control over the entirety of the system

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<v Speaker 1>than they already have. They can attain that by putting

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<v Speaker 1>their preferred executive in place in the government. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if we buy this guy off, he's going to do

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<v Speaker 1>what we want him to do, and not just him,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's an entire administration you're buying, right, an entire package,

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<v Speaker 1>entire plan, oftentimes the details of which are written out

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<v Speaker 1>by fancy NGO's foundations. They tell you what they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do, they tell you the plan. It's like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do this, this, this, and this, and oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>the plan involves using members of the serfdom like us,

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<v Speaker 1>exploiting us. But it doesn't say it will exploit us.

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<v Speaker 1>It always says that it will free us in some

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<v Speaker 1>way or another, or that it's going to give us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're somehow going to gain advantage. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get fancy jobs in the government. Now, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>are you a dim wit? Did you not even get

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<v Speaker 1>a ged? Great, We're going to give you a really

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<v Speaker 1>fancy high position in government now because all those positions

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<v Speaker 1>that used to require a college degree don't anymore, and

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<v Speaker 1>we won't have the problem that is a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>educated idiots running the country anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, I feel better about things now. I'm not here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not here lauding.

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<v Speaker 1>The success of academia.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not here.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no good side to take in this. I completely

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<v Speaker 1>understand the grievance of the working class. I understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>I get and I live within it. I know it,

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard and I understand why people feel the

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<v Speaker 1>way to do people on the low, low level, how

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<v Speaker 1>they do have grievance, how they do believe that educated

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<v Speaker 1>people are just morons and they're not always wrong about then.

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<v Speaker 1>There is there are elements of truth in then, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's also there's also something to be said for the

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<v Speaker 1>anti intellectual strain within Certainly, let's just let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>the one side has a very anti intellectual strength to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about the Donald Trump campaign, right. His

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<v Speaker 1>target is not the intelligencia, it's not the college educated, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And we've read, we've all read news stories about this

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<v Speaker 1>that people with a college degree are going to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for Kamala Harris, people who don't have a college degree

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<v Speaker 1>are going to vote for Donald Trump. And now we're

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<v Speaker 1>just falling into that same old stupid So you look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just falling into the mold that we're supposed to.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just going along to get along. And it's the

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<v Speaker 2>status quo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this weird, bizarre status quo that once again, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>asked for this, nobody wants it really to be this way,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet somehow it ends up being this way, and

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<v Speaker 1>we all reiterate this and make it true. We all

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<v Speaker 1>make this the truth because it objectively becomes reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is true.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a college degree, you're probably have a

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<v Speaker 1>vote for Kamala Harris and vice versa. It's pretty crazy

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<v Speaker 1>that this ends up being like this, and that they're

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<v Speaker 1>all these like all these roles we've been given to

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<v Speaker 1>play in the world. And I think I think that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the frustrations in the midst of all

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<v Speaker 1>this common from the fact that everybody knows that we're

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of like playing along and playing a game,

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<v Speaker 1>and that none of this is really none of this

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<v Speaker 1>has to be the way that it is right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we're all kind of hoping we can vote it away.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, nobody likes this, nobody wants this situation the

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<v Speaker 1>way it is, although it persists.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I can vote it away.

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<v Speaker 1>By you know, putting my person in there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it never ends up happening. But we have gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where we're so sick of this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I think people are welcoming the concept of, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>let's end democracy, Yes let's end voting, let's end all

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<v Speaker 1>of this, because clearly the corruption has run so deep

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<v Speaker 1>that yes, there is there is no longer integrity in

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<v Speaker 1>the electoral process because of you know, read all the

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<v Speaker 1>news stories. There's so many that can attest to this.

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<v Speaker 1>You pick the ones that you like and read this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna tell you which ones to read. You

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<v Speaker 1>just read the ones you like. But just know that

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is the general truth. Right boy, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably building up a really big audience on the show tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being so ambiguous. I'm not taking any sides.

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<v Speaker 2>You like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Either that or I'm driving everybody away because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to their side explicitly. I'm actually probably losing even

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<v Speaker 1>more people than what I already had, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how many people are listening it. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It does not matter, because the whole point, once again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, can be taken by zooming out, seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>That we are.

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<v Speaker 1>A large group of people living in a expanded collective

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<v Speaker 1>social agreement.

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<v Speaker 2>Be that.

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<v Speaker 1>Local city, county, state, nation, or even the world. Because

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<v Speaker 1>the world all interacts, it all interact with one another

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<v Speaker 1>globally on a global scale. Now at this point, so

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<v Speaker 1>things have been expanded from natural human gatherings pre industrial civilization.

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<v Speaker 1>So things have changed a lot in a relatively short

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time. Relatively a couple hundred years is a

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<v Speaker 1>very short time. You look at what's happened in a

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<v Speaker 1>And we could look at this in a similar way

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<v Speaker 1>that Ray Kurtzwell and his singularity scenario with the Bell curve.

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<v Speaker 1>The singularities got hit because this Bell curve, exponential growth

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<v Speaker 1>agi just emerges out of that as a consequence, because

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<v Speaker 1>computing is so strong, we'll just be able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even without even effort. Almost is kind of the idea there.

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<v Speaker 1>But in a similar fashion, similar alchemical fashion, the Bell

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<v Speaker 2>In that.

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<v Speaker 1>These changes you can place them on a Bell curve.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have reached a point where perhaps we have

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<v Speaker 1>reached It's hard to look at a given point and

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<v Speaker 1>reached escape velocity? Right when did things really get out

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<v Speaker 1>of control? What point in history is the marker? And

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<v Speaker 1>once again on the last show, I was said about

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<v Speaker 1>marker points of history and how when you're in them

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<v Speaker 1>and we're starting to get hindsight for various things that

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<v Speaker 1>happened in our lives, I believe, and the marker posts

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<v Speaker 1>of history are becoming apparent now, which is always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fascinating to look back on them. But we do

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<v Speaker 1>living out perhaps more and more markers going by faster

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<v Speaker 1>and faster, were talking about this bell curve sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that? What's happening is human society changing at

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, there are absolutely stakeholders invested in this

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<v Speaker 1>thing that are the beneficiaries of this. Absolutely we have

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<v Speaker 1>to remember that, and we should be pointing at them

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<v Speaker 1>more often than we do, and we should be holding

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<v Speaker 1>them to account, which they never are, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute shame, utterly ridiculous how we allow this and how

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<v Speaker 1>we continue to just beat up each other. But at

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of clever way to accrue wealth, money, and

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<v Speaker 1>in that if you can just come up with some

422
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<v Speaker 1>scheme to put more more numbers into your bank account,

423
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.519
<v Speaker 1>that's all you really have to do. So it's just

424
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>about like gaming things, gaming the system itself in order

425
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to accrue assets, and those assets are even becoming more

426
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and more abstract as we go into virtual life the living,

427
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:56.079
<v Speaker 1>but not just using the phones, and we're constantly looking

428
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>at the screens. We're always on social media, we're always

429
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>playing games, we're always online. That reality, there's so much

430
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to take from that. Yes, we are doing that more

431
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and more often, But what does that mean? Where are we?

432
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Where do we exist? Where is our mind? Where is

433
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>our conscious awareness? What space does it inhabit? It inhabits

434
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a virtual space? Maybe more often than not. And maybe

435
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.119
<v Speaker 1>that's the point of no return, is if you could

436
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>actually point to a moment in time where when was

437
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:43.119
<v Speaker 1>it where people actually started spending more time inside these

438
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>virtual spaces, be that like eyes looking at a screen

439
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to your face turned away from a screen,

440
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>or you know, virtual interface of any sort, and just

441
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.039
<v Speaker 1>you're out and about in the physical world, just walking

442
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:08.599
<v Speaker 1>around as humans have walked around in this world since

443
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 1>as long as we've been here. What point did that happen?

444
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:21.800
<v Speaker 1>And I know we could sit here and say you're looking,

445
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>you're pointing the finger in the wrong direction. There's nothing

446
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>inherently wrong with technology. There's nothing wrong with us indulging

447
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.800
<v Speaker 1>in these technologies, and we all do it. I certainly

448
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 1>do as much as anybody. Not trying to act like

449
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm immune to this. Quite the opposite. I'm a part

450
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>of this. We're all in this together, and once again,

451
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>solidarity there it is. There's another thing that we can

452
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of take away that maybe can we can rally

453
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:58.400
<v Speaker 1>with each other and get some sort of good positive

454
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>energy for once once again the solidarity of our shared

455
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>oppression and depression in this artificial hellscape that we've all

456
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 1>done so much to create, to maintain, and to push further,

457
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>push the balance further and higher and greater. And that

458
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 1>is the main event that Godfrey Reggio spoke about when

459
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:42.760
<v Speaker 1>he was talking about Quiana Scatzi. The main event is

460
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 1>that thing which those of us who are living in

461
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.800
<v Speaker 1>it never even notice that we're but part of We're

462
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>all a part of this thing, and somehow it escapes

463
00:37:53.960 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 1>conscious awareness time and time again, it just continues to grow,

464
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and there's no end of scapegoats and false narratives to chase,

465
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>little flights of fancy, like we can retreat into the past,

466
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>into these fictitious concepts of the past, fictitious concepts of

467
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the present, where we can overlay and yes, very much

468
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:29.559
<v Speaker 1>scapegoat a group.

469
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 2>It's nice to scapegoat people.

470
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:37.079
<v Speaker 1>We love to escapeging other people typically, but it doesn't

471
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 1>have to be that can be situations and things, and

472
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:44.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a big part of what politics is, the grievance politics.

473
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, there's no jobs anywhere, it's because of

474
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 1>all the immigrants coming in. They're taking them, and you know,

475
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:57.400
<v Speaker 1>so just blame it on somebody else that may not

476
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:04.599
<v Speaker 1>even be there, and it's probably a problem that the

477
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:09.559
<v Speaker 1>problems the way that we view our problems. Certainly in

478
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>the political realm, we're always told how to view what

479
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:19.599
<v Speaker 1>the problem is. It is like, you don't have a job.

480
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:25.760
<v Speaker 1>That's a problem. You don't have a job because the

481
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>liberals carded a bunch of migrants from every evil country

482
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 1>in the world and their criminals.

483
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>And they're here now and they're.

484
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>All transgender murderers and they took your job. Meanwhile, there's

485
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>tons of jobs that you could have, but you don't

486
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.760
<v Speaker 1>have one because you don't want to have one. You

487
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>could be employed somewhere. And truth be told, too, a

488
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.599
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are getting pickier and pickier, and this

489
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.800
<v Speaker 1>is another way to kind of frame things and blame

490
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 1>the victim too. It's like, oh, all these worthless losers

491
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.039
<v Speaker 1>aren't going out there and getting jobs because they're lazy.

492
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>And who are these idiots that are lazy? It's always

493
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the younger generation. There are always a bunch of lazy

494
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>morons that are stupid. The future's gone because they're idiots.

495
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 1>They're the ones looking at the screens, they're the ones

496
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<v Speaker 1>watching the brain rot content online. It's all their fault.

497
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>They're stupid. The future's gone because of them. They can't

498
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 1>even work, they don't know how to make a resume. Meanwhile,

499
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:38.280
<v Speaker 1>whose children are they? First of all. Second of all,

500
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at this. You've been told how to look

501
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:47.519
<v Speaker 1>at this, and you're looking at this tiny little You've

502
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 1>got blinders on, and you've been told what to think,

503
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.559
<v Speaker 1>what to say, what to see, how to see it.

504
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>You've been told who to blame, who to hate, who

505
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to be scared of. Meanwhile, you're never given any actual

506
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>solutions or ways to empower yourself, or actual alternatives to

507
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:20.840
<v Speaker 1>this giant mess that we've all fed into. We never

508
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:24.519
<v Speaker 1>do that. We just keep buying into the same stuff

509
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that we love because we like to be lied to.

510
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>We like uh being told what to think. We like hating.

511
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>We love to hate. We love hating people. We love

512
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>hating uh countries. We love hating ideas. We we love

513
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:50.199
<v Speaker 1>hating religions. We love having our own religion and then

514
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:57.760
<v Speaker 1>hating other ones. That's fun. That's a standby. We we

515
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>just love all of that. Anything that feels bad, it's

516
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:01.519
<v Speaker 1>just great.

517
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, it's just.

518
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 1>The real problems continue to elude us. This giant story

519
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:25.360
<v Speaker 1>continues to play itself out. I think we all really

520
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>do know better, which is the odd thing about this.

521
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I think unconsciously we all know the truth, but we

522
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.079
<v Speaker 1>could just keep playing along with so many of the

523
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>convenient lies that are so fun to tell.

524
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 2>That we just keep going with it.

525
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>And once you know it, this digital, virtual, artificial space

526
00:42:52.519 --> 00:43:00.679
<v Speaker 1>seems not only to nurture, but to breed the very

527
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:10.599
<v Speaker 1>sorts of divisive ideologies, propaganda weaponry that's used to further

528
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 1>enslave us and.

529
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Push us into this thing.

530
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>If you look at everybody who's out there complaining and yelling,

531
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, ah, they have all the answers, they

532
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 1>know all the problems, they have all the scapegoats and

533
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>lined up and in order, even like this is number

534
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.079
<v Speaker 1>one scapegoat, This is number two scapegoat, This is number

535
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:33.320
<v Speaker 1>three that orders importance. This is the leader's scapegoat. This

536
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 1>is the one who answers them. These are the ones

537
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>that come after that. These are all the soldiers at

538
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:40.599
<v Speaker 1>the bottom that are doing the work that you're going

539
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:45.199
<v Speaker 1>to have to fight against in the war. You ever

540
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>notice the people that know all about that are the

541
00:43:50.320 --> 00:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>ones that clearly are fashioning their air quotes opinions by

542
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>just looking at analytics and making making attention grabbing material

543
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:21.079
<v Speaker 1>for its own sake, making things just for the sake

544
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>of getting attention. What gets attention? Yelling and making people

545
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 1>mad and getting people angry, being divisive, what gets engagement?

546
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>How do you engage people? You get them angry at

547
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you as one way to engage. Forgive me, I was

548
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>just plugging something in.

549
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that apropos But it doesn't take a lot of

550
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:53.400
<v Speaker 2>insight to see.

551
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:55.599
<v Speaker 1>That the people that are doing this the most are

552
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>just like digging into the analytics and seeing what Google's

553
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.800
<v Speaker 1>hold them that people clicked on the most. That's what's

554
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:15.599
<v Speaker 1>informing their decisions on their performative outrage. That's what thrives

555
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:23.079
<v Speaker 1>in this bizarre false reality that we're living in. That's

556
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:26.599
<v Speaker 1>on the political end of things. Of course, there is

557
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the more superficial, superfluous, purely entertainment value fluff that exists

558
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>in the same sort of vein, in that it has

559
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>just become clickbait. So any sort of entertainment even that

560
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:48.199
<v Speaker 1>we seek as an escape to just relax and enjoy ourselves,

561
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to watch this silly video or I'm

562
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>going to watch a documentary on my favorite online video platform.

563
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:01.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to watch this creator they the video blog,

564
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and I like it. A lot of the stuff that

565
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 1>used to be there that was it seems like it

566
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:11.039
<v Speaker 1>becomes less and less substantive as time goes on, the

567
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 1>more and more just clickbait because that's what the platform,

568
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 1>that's what the medium turns out. And this is algorithmically

569
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.800
<v Speaker 1>driven as well. We have to realize, so the engineering

570
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>technological aspect of this is always.

571
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:39.519
<v Speaker 2>At the forefront, or should be.

572
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 1>We should realize it is the data science, the analytics,

573
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the algorithms, the systems, the computer systems, the logic.

574
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Of the machine or lack thereof.

575
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:09.039
<v Speaker 1>It's not necessarily a human logic, however, it is humans.

576
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's a weird biofeedback thing. It's it's a it's

577
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a back and forth between the weird technological UH space

578
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.159
<v Speaker 1>and the way that it at, the operating system of

579
00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:31.599
<v Speaker 1>that and those that are existing within it, the biological

580
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:37.119
<v Speaker 1>creatures that are inputting and using this thing, making building

581
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the content within it, interacting with it, interacting with each

582
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:50.760
<v Speaker 1>other through the interface that is the digital technologies. So

583
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's this weird back and forth relationship between man

584
00:47:56.840 --> 00:48:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and the machine. It might even be a romance and

585
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>make a romance novel, a science fiction romance novelt of

586
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing. A few people already have. There's been

587
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:13.679
<v Speaker 1>some pretty insightful pieces of fiction that have played to this.

588
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Blade Runner twenty forty nine comes to mind. This is

589
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:29.119
<v Speaker 1>an excellent movie. But so there is such a thing

590
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.199
<v Speaker 1>as art that still exists. There is such a thing

591
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>as being able to have insight and understanding as to

592
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:41.119
<v Speaker 1>actual truth of what's truly going on beyond just the

593
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>nonsense that we're expected to take part in. Don't have

594
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to only be about that, So there's the good thing.

595
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't only have to be that. We don't only have

596
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to worry about what we're told to worry about. So

597
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try not to do that. To do

598
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 1>my best on this show. It's a herculean task for

599
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.000
<v Speaker 1>all of us. It's a big challenge.

600
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:09.679
<v Speaker 2>It's a big.

601
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Challenge in our day and age. Those of us that

602
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:17.159
<v Speaker 1>are up to the task, I hope that we have

603
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>it in us to do our best in the face

604
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 1>of this thing. Because we've got we'orthy adversary in front

605
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of us, and that adversary is, to a great extent,

606
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>just ourselves.

607
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Ourselves.

608
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:43.199
<v Speaker 1>We are fighting ourselves in every sense of it. So

609
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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you can take heart and find ways

610
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<v Speaker 1>to move ahead as you.

611
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Will within all this. I hope you know who you're

612
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:56.280
<v Speaker 2>voting for.

613
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I hope, I hope you're ready for the outcome, which is,

614
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:05.519
<v Speaker 1>once I said, a foregone conclusion. I don't know exactly

615
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<v Speaker 1>how that's gonna all pan out, but it's gonna be

616
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:11.119
<v Speaker 1>wild and crazy, so be ready for that. It could

617
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<v Speaker 1>be fun. Just make it enjoyable as much as much

618
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<v Speaker 1>as that can be, which it will not be, but

619
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<v Speaker 1>you know, just make the most of it, Okay, make

620
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<v Speaker 1>the most of it. We'll do what we can do here.

621
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<v Speaker 1>This is the age of transitions. After all, we are

622
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:44.360
<v Speaker 1>in it. There's no way out, and do keep listening

623
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<v Speaker 1>to the show. It's been a long time since I've

624
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<v Speaker 1>had a guest, but I will have more. I'm actually

625
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<v Speaker 1>supposed to interview somebody this weekend, so as long as

626
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<v Speaker 1>everything goes according to plan, I will have a new interview.

627
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<v Speaker 1>At least is totally I'll be able to play that

628
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<v Speaker 1>on the next week's show. I'll record it and then

629
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<v Speaker 1>play it on the show is what I'm planning to do.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how that works out. I have to work

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<v Speaker 1>on my social skills and also find it within myself

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<v Speaker 1>to try to find somebody I actually want to talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like there's less than less people like that,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in this digital space. When I exist in

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<v Speaker 1>the day to day actual life, where I'm walking around

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<v Speaker 1>in the world and doing normal.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyday things, I usually like everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>And even the people I don't particularly like, I always

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<v Speaker 1>understand their shortcomings. So I'm like, Okay, this person is

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<v Speaker 1>annoying or their pain or I really don't particularly even

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<v Speaker 1>like them. However I can understand. I try to understand

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<v Speaker 1>what their motivations might be, and of course I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know all of them, but generally speaking, I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I see where they're coming from. The annoying

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<v Speaker 1>things that they do, I can.

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<v Speaker 2>See why they may be doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there could be some virtuous angles as to why

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<v Speaker 1>they've probably made what seemed to be the wrong decision

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<v Speaker 1>so many times, But I can't truly dislike or be

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<v Speaker 1>mad at them. That's most people I feel that about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and actually most people I actually just like straight out

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh yeah, this person's cool, and like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they've got some idiosynchronic behavior even where they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the crusty person that's like always grumpy, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of endearing, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you would think that they're going out their.

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<v Speaker 1>Way to not be liked, but then that actually ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being like this quality that endears them to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh yeah, that that old grump. What a

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<v Speaker 1>what a cool person?

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Also that So that's actual life.

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<v Speaker 1>But here, when we become avatars in the virtual world,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a whole nother ballgame where we become disembodied.

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<v Speaker 2>And we become.

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<v Speaker 1>These personas which very much are easy to hate, and

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<v Speaker 1>the hateful aspects of these things we amplify due to

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<v Speaker 1>the space that we're existing, and it amplifies the dark

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<v Speaker 1>side of us, seems to which might be noteworthy. We

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<v Speaker 1>might want to pay attention to that, or we could

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<v Speaker 1>just keep going on living in this thing till we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any other option to even live in an

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<v Speaker 1>actual physical world anymore, and see how that all works

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<v Speaker 1>out for us. So we have options, that's what's exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>We can we can choose our future. The real election

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<v Speaker 1>going on, What do we elect to do with ourselves?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we where do we put our energies? Where

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<v Speaker 1>do we put our attention? Once again, do we choose

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<v Speaker 1>to pay attention to all the things we're told to

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to, or do we go our own way?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is possible to do that. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to remember that we're in this greater scheme of things

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<v Speaker 1>and do what we can within that. But we do

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<v Speaker 1>have to also understand our strengths and see what we're

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<v Speaker 1>able to do and where we're able to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>what gets us the most bang for our buck, where

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even have to use bucks. Those are nice

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<v Speaker 1>places to We're out there, let's see here. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to hopefully some interviews that I'll have again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try to be nicer and I'll try to be

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<v Speaker 1>more sociable and cordial and not despise everybody. See I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a victim of this too, I was saying that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll find people, I will talk to them. I will

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<v Speaker 1>put on this show. Hopefully it'll be pretty interesting. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty interesting characters out there, so look forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>On upcoming episodes of the Age of Transitions podcast, We're

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<v Speaker 1>also a live radio show on the Oceli Radio Network

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<v Speaker 1>Friday nights. Perhaps you're listening just right now as I

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<v Speaker 1>record this Friday, October eighteen, twenty twenty four. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>time in space. It's pleading it to continue, the ever

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<v Speaker 1>flowing river of time. It's exciting to be on float

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<v Speaker 1>downstream to wherever this takes us. Hopefully we don't pollute

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<v Speaker 1>the river too much as we're floating. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>a useful thing to try to consciously do as well,

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<v Speaker 1>pollute less. I think we have it in us to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Make that choice. There might be better ways

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<v Speaker 1>of doing things, Clearly there are, we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>make the choice to want to do them. So many

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<v Speaker 1>obvious answers that just never got pursued. It's a strange,

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<v Speaker 1>strange world when we live our lives this way. Just

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing things that we know aren't right. So hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we can do less of that and do more of

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<v Speaker 1>doing the things that we know are right. So with

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<v Speaker 1>that in mind, I'm coming to the end of the show. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, this being the Chili Radio Network on a

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night, you know that the Uncle Show is coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>so do continue to listen. You can call into that,

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<v Speaker 1>So get your phone ready to call in. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be fun. Government power is now coming to a close,

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<v Speaker 1>so now we can be comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Times Revelation through Conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great national

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<v Speaker 5>transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in

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<v Speaker 5>the context of the Times and revealed never before published

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<v Speaker 5>information about the Cuban missile crisis. President Kennedy would not

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<v Speaker 5>have been assassinated if he had been president two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>years ago. His assassination took place in the context of

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<v Speaker 5>the Cold War and the rise of the national security state.

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<v Speaker 5>Before World War II, the United States was a continental republic.

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<v Speaker 5>In the decade that followed, it became an imperial superpower.

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<v Speaker 5>Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba,

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<v Speaker 5>but knew that there were short range missiles on the

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<v Speaker 5>island armed with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy

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<v Speaker 5>because they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have

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<v Speaker 5>led to a Third World War, and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>go to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson

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<v Speaker 5>reveals why and will show you what President Kennedy was

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<v Speaker 5>up against. For more information the Warstate dot com.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you like history, Real history that you were never

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<v Speaker 6>In Denial Secret Wars with Air Strikes and Tanks by

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<v Speaker 6>Larry Hancock. Secret wars became a staple of US covert

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<v Speaker 6>operations and are still happening today. Larry Hancock's book In

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<v Speaker 6>Denial rips the cover off many of them, using new files.

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<v Speaker 6>It exposes things about the Bay of Pigs that no

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<v Speaker 6>really failed and why the United States did not learn

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<v Speaker 6>doing secret operations with more success. This is the book

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<v Speaker 6>that puts what some want to deny into the light.

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<v Speaker 7>In Denial, Secret Wars with air Strikes and Tanks Larry

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You were listening to uncle the broadcast. My name's Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the nephew inaw here at Lisa started a show Uncle,

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies gentle Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Three and forty is the episode. And here we are

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm going to say, I got my.

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<v Speaker 2>Eares cleaned out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I sure can hear that thing round and clear.

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<v Speaker 3>And you insisted and butt my ears on that show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hey hair, drums Man gave you if you if

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<v Speaker 3>you out of yet, so the battlement get that into

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<v Speaker 3>the head.

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<v Speaker 1>The good thing about that Uncle is when people call

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<v Speaker 1>into the show to they you will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>hear them much clearer than before.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to call in, please do three

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<v Speaker 1>one nine, five to seven five zero one six, or

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<v Speaker 1>you skype and type a message to Chuck, Charles.

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<v Speaker 3>Lly and Eddie like going to game six.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to game six and it's a close one. In

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<v Speaker 1>the other one very six five, So we could talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Major League Baseball games. We're live on the Chili Range.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mets. The Mets took a beating the one Night

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<v Speaker 2>though eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I know, I know they read it two.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am feeling that they got a push to

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<v Speaker 3>come back. I think they would do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you I stopped watching the other night and

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, after I watched the eight nothing blowout,

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<v Speaker 7>then I saw mosing like five nothing, and I said,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what, I'm done watching. I almost feel like

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<v Speaker 7>I was causing a curse.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I was thinking the same thing, being I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing it with my picks. And that's why I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>in football. I'm not looking at it. I know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm right now head by a game. But that would

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<v Speaker 3>because the Thursday game. But I'm saying to myself, if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm watching these games, I'm going to lose. So what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do is not even watch me watch it

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<v Speaker 3>and see what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the solution there. Just stop watching and then just and.

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<v Speaker 7>I do the same thing now, Jimmy, Jimmy incorrectly told

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<v Speaker 7>me earlier that the Mets were done.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you kidding me, They're already done. They can't be. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's not. Now. I see he.

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<v Speaker 3>Saw. What Jimmy saw was Dodge just winning two more

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<v Speaker 3>games nextra in New York, and so at three to one,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he saw, right, And and he threw it

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<v Speaker 3>up the windows, saying, now they're done.

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<v Speaker 2>And like he said to you, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at what that But look what came up, Jimmy boy.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, two possible games. Like look, that's what the Mets

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<v Speaker 7>did all season, right, So what I'm seeing they keep

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<v Speaker 7>coming back and and and that's the thing. They get

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<v Speaker 7>under it and they get beat up bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know what, I think they like to

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<v Speaker 3>be the professor being. They want to they do that.

842
01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:29.159
<v Speaker 2>They like coming from behind him.

843
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:33.760
<v Speaker 3>They want to charge, they want to competition. They will

844
01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:37.280
<v Speaker 3>how they have it with the Dodgers, But they are

845
01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:41.519
<v Speaker 3>pushing themselves and that's what I think they do.

846
01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:44.320
<v Speaker 7>Let me ask you this though, because you've been watching

847
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:48.239
<v Speaker 7>the Tony all year, right, yeah, okay, So do they

848
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:49.800
<v Speaker 7>stick him in the outfield sometimes?

849
01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Is that what they do with him?

850
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Or do they just you know him, well only mony

851
01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:57.199
<v Speaker 3>d H most of the time.

852
01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Well that makes sense, I would d H.

853
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Since I heard that he can't pitch anymore, that's crazy.

854
01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:06.239
<v Speaker 2>So now he's DH.

855
01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:07.519
<v Speaker 3>That what I'm hearing.

856
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:10.840
<v Speaker 2>He was pitching just fine the other night. Oh he

857
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:13.360
<v Speaker 2>did just the other night. I missed that one. That's

858
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:15.679
<v Speaker 2>what he was. Yeah, he was pitching for a bit

859
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:16.320
<v Speaker 2>the other night.

860
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:18.840
<v Speaker 7>I saw him pitch and I said, man, this guy

861
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.039
<v Speaker 7>is actually better than I thought. I mean, even all

862
01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:22.760
<v Speaker 7>the stuff I read about him, I never seen him

863
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 7>play right.

864
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:26.920
<v Speaker 3>But what I heard about he said he was hurting

865
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:28.719
<v Speaker 3>because he couldn't pitch anymore.

866
01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:30.119
<v Speaker 2>But I don't.

867
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 3>Missus, uh miss his sidekick saying something about that.

868
01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:41.519
<v Speaker 2>And then he said yeah. And then he fouled the

869
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:43.119
<v Speaker 2>ball off and it might have hit his toe. It

870
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:44.840
<v Speaker 2>might not. But then and then he filed the ball

871
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:46.719
<v Speaker 2>off and it hit him right in the crotch. I

872
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:48.880
<v Speaker 2>did see that. Yet two times in a row he

873
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:50.719
<v Speaker 2>hit himself the ball. That was crazy.

874
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:53.840
<v Speaker 7>He hit him the foot maybe, but the same thing

875
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:55.639
<v Speaker 7>is that the shot on the foot, you're not sure

876
01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:57.400
<v Speaker 7>you know, you're looking at it, going did that ball

877
01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.559
<v Speaker 7>make contact with his foot or not? Right with the

878
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:03.000
<v Speaker 7>shot and the crotch, No, that definitely happened, and he

879
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:04.760
<v Speaker 7>sugar he shook it off good.

880
01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:06.199
<v Speaker 2>You know.

881
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:09.599
<v Speaker 7>Initially the announcers thought he got hitting the side and

882
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:11.320
<v Speaker 7>I was like, yeah, that didn't look like the side.

883
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Then they played the replay and they went, whoa, Nope,

884
01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:17.639
<v Speaker 2>not the side. That was horrible.

885
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.840
<v Speaker 7>Oh god, I thought, yeah, I thought he was going

886
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:22.480
<v Speaker 7>to go out of the game with that, you know,

887
01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:26.039
<v Speaker 7>And then the Mets picture. The Mets hitter got hit

888
01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:28.920
<v Speaker 7>right on the thigh with a fastball and I thought,

889
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:30.559
<v Speaker 7>oh man, this guy's going to go out because he

890
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.920
<v Speaker 7>rolled on the ground like, you know, like somebody broke something.

891
01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:35.000
<v Speaker 7>And I said, oh boy, here we go.

892
01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:40.960
<v Speaker 3>But that game they lost, you know that dame he last,

893
01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:44.199
<v Speaker 3>and that must have been three three wins for the

894
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Dodgers at that time, right, yeah, they three to one.

895
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:53.840
<v Speaker 3>They're saying, no, that's one more game went, it's double.

896
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:57.199
<v Speaker 3>But no, wait a minute, right, turn the page.

897
01:07:57.320 --> 01:07:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, the Dodgers, because.

898
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:02.159
<v Speaker 3>Amount bombing, it's.

899
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Still tough to come out.

900
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:04.800
<v Speaker 7>It's still tough to come out in a three to

901
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:08.079
<v Speaker 7>one depicit because look, the Dodgers only have to win

902
01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:09.079
<v Speaker 7>one of the next.

903
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Two right at home, at home, at home. Yeah, I

904
01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:14.440
<v Speaker 2>know er stadium, I know that.

905
01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:18.239
<v Speaker 7>So the Mets are behind the eight ball bad right,

906
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:20.239
<v Speaker 7>Even if they win the next one, even if they

907
01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:23.399
<v Speaker 7>crush them, it don't matter because they could still just win.

908
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:25.359
<v Speaker 7>They could just squeak out one of these two games.

909
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:26.319
<v Speaker 7>That's all they gotta do.

910
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.960
<v Speaker 3>What just one game and tell them like they say,

911
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:32.760
<v Speaker 3>but look what they did. For example, look what they

912
01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:37.520
<v Speaker 3>did the Philly the foot they won't done. I'm finished. Right,

913
01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:41.119
<v Speaker 3>they came back and boom, they swept that. They took

914
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:46.319
<v Speaker 3>them out. So I can't really put my finger on

915
01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:48.560
<v Speaker 3>this whole series.

916
01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:51.279
<v Speaker 2>And then they got that kid Hernandez, right, was a

917
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:55.399
<v Speaker 2>kiky Hernandez. Oh yeah yeah yeah. And that guy all

918
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:57.279
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, when when he goes into the postseason

919
01:08:57.359 --> 01:08:57.920
<v Speaker 2>he cranks up.

920
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Wait, yeah, that's the other thing.

921
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:02.479
<v Speaker 2>He's like this ezy.

922
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:06.479
<v Speaker 3>He got these crazy hitters that will go crazy, and

923
01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:08.600
<v Speaker 3>they oh, it's time to go.

924
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:10.239
<v Speaker 2>This is the end of the year.

925
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:13.159
<v Speaker 7>It looks you know, when you when you were a

926
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:15.439
<v Speaker 7>younger man, when you were a younger man, uncle, you

927
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:16.560
<v Speaker 7>could watch Reggie Jackson.

928
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:18.760
<v Speaker 2>They called him mister October right, yeah.

929
01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:21.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I heard about him too. Yeah, he was the guy.

930
01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:22.880
<v Speaker 7>He was the guy if you if you were in

931
01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:24.960
<v Speaker 7>the postseason, you had Reggie with you, you were going

932
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:26.720
<v Speaker 7>to do good because he was going to crank.

933
01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:28.439
<v Speaker 2>It up in the postseason every time.

934
01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:34.640
<v Speaker 7>But this is the time, Oh my up, Dodgers got

935
01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:40.640
<v Speaker 7>like three mister October's and otani I mean jesus, yeah, yeah, yeah, exacting.

936
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:43.560
<v Speaker 7>But it's a mexicaneak by on him. Man, I don't know,

937
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:47.720
<v Speaker 7>you know that that'll be that'll be something. I don't

938
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:50.920
<v Speaker 7>have a lot of faith because you know, they need

939
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:52.640
<v Speaker 7>to use their bullpen. They need to use like six

940
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.439
<v Speaker 7>pitchers a game to get by exactly.

941
01:09:55.880 --> 01:09:57.720
<v Speaker 2>That's what I believe they did.

942
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:03.640
<v Speaker 9>Or someone's something they did, something they did, they did

943
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:08.159
<v Speaker 9>they hitting, they woke up pitting finally with so many

944
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:10.800
<v Speaker 9>hits or the bump pen thing.

945
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing with them.

946
01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:14.479
<v Speaker 7>It's either feast or famine, right, It's either they get

947
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:18.520
<v Speaker 7>lots of hits or nothing, lots or nothing. It's all

948
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:21.119
<v Speaker 7>or nothing with them. It's so funny because that's really

949
01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:21.960
<v Speaker 7>what the Mets are like.

950
01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:25.680
<v Speaker 3>And that's what I kept looking at myself, what's all

951
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:28.600
<v Speaker 3>with these people? What wrong with these Mets? And they're

952
01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:29.279
<v Speaker 3>doing what.

953
01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:30.000
<v Speaker 2>You just said?

954
01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:32.479
<v Speaker 3>What what the heck is this?

955
01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:35.800
<v Speaker 7>Well, you realize outside of that Subway series in two

956
01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:38.319
<v Speaker 7>thousand or two thousand and one, right before that, the

957
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:40.399
<v Speaker 7>last time they were in there was eighty eight. For

958
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:45.159
<v Speaker 7>God's sake, you know, so it's been a while, it's

959
01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:48.760
<v Speaker 7>been a minute, and uh, you know, look they're due.

960
01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:51.239
<v Speaker 7>But I don't know, man, even if they don't get it. See,

961
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:54.279
<v Speaker 7>here's the funny thing though, the Dodgers they should win this.

962
01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, if they don't, you.

963
01:10:57.720 --> 01:10:59.479
<v Speaker 7>Know, what are people going to say about the Mets

964
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:01.760
<v Speaker 7>going into it's the Yankees say, because I don't think

965
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:04.279
<v Speaker 7>for a second that the Commanders are going to succeed

966
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:05.079
<v Speaker 7>beating the Yankees.

967
01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:06.920
<v Speaker 2>What do you think of that one? Right now?

968
01:11:07.039 --> 01:11:11.159
<v Speaker 3>The score was when I came up six to five Yankees.

969
01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Shuck, it's the Guardians you're talking about that. You're talking

970
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:17.640
<v Speaker 1>about Cleveland Guardians. I'm sorry, the Guardian. You know what

971
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I mixed itall?

972
01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:22.279
<v Speaker 2>That's the Red right, Okay, I'm sorry.

973
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:24.760
<v Speaker 7>I knew the two different Indians got changed to the

974
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:26.640
<v Speaker 7>Commanders and the Guardians, but I mix them up.

975
01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, you're right.

976
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:32.279
<v Speaker 7>Well, one was the Indians and one was the Redskins. Anyway,

977
01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:35.760
<v Speaker 7>we talked about Chief Wahoo on the Friday Night College Show.

978
01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:39.359
<v Speaker 7>So yes, anyhow, I'll shut up now, but just give

979
01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:41.520
<v Speaker 7>you a little note here, uncle. You got listeners in

980
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:44.520
<v Speaker 7>Germany and Canada and all over the US according to

981
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.720
<v Speaker 7>the Ocelli stream. I have no idea who's listening on

982
01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:50.840
<v Speaker 7>Twitter or anywhere else we're watching any of the live streams,

983
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:53.680
<v Speaker 7>But on the Ocelli stream, that's what we got and

984
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:57.239
<v Speaker 7>uh so, welcome to you from around the world and

985
01:11:57.680 --> 01:11:58.640
<v Speaker 7>thanks for tuning in.

986
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, right now, not so bad. I don't know what

987
01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:05.840
<v Speaker 2>what can we talk about?

988
01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:05.920
<v Speaker 10>This?

989
01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Should I kick.

990
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:08.760
<v Speaker 3>This? Phone call?

991
01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Here's what we're gonna talk about.

992
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, phone call, ling up and talking to the band,

993
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:14.640
<v Speaker 3>let's go.

994
01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:21.680
<v Speaker 2>There. Listening to the.

995
01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:28.039
<v Speaker 11>Conversation, I I I hope they take the Dodgers, but

996
01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:29.079
<v Speaker 11>I don't know.

997
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Like I was telling Chuck, the darn thing they were

998
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:38.159
<v Speaker 3>coming on, coming on, Look what they did to Look

999
01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:43.319
<v Speaker 3>what they did to Hilly. Yeah, but you're rooting for

1000
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:43.840
<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers.

1001
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:47.439
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna happen. But you're root You're rooting for the

1002
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Dodgers though, right Uncle, I mean, Jimmy, you're talking. Are

1003
01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you rooting for the Dodgers? Uncle, I'm talking to you

1004
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:57.600
<v Speaker 2>right now. Are you rooting for the Dodgers or not?

1005
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.279
<v Speaker 3>No? No, I'm I'm a med man.

1006
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:06.840
<v Speaker 2>You want that I needed to check Listen, I'm that man.

1007
01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm born in Brooklyn. Why wouldn't I be for the Mets,

1008
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:15.760
<v Speaker 3>not for those sorry Dodgers.

1009
01:13:16.439 --> 01:13:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Sorry because the Dodgers came from how about that?

1010
01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:24.720
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm saying what I'm saying, is I ain't glad

1011
01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:28.359
<v Speaker 3>to see the Mets get in because I was from there.

1012
01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:29.600
<v Speaker 3>That's all I'm saying.

1013
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I got you. That's fine, that's saying. That's what I'm saying.

1014
01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:35.560
<v Speaker 2>If it wasn't the Mets, though, you'd probably be rooting

1015
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:40.199
<v Speaker 2>for the Dodgers, right, Okay, So that's what I want

1016
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:41.720
<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers to add. How about that?

1017
01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Because you're not from New York, So that's why that's understandable.

1018
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:50.479
<v Speaker 3>This is my point I'm trying to tell people. But

1019
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:53.199
<v Speaker 3>that's what I'm trying to.

1020
01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:57.119
<v Speaker 7>I'm always confused about this their sidekick. Are you originally

1021
01:13:57.199 --> 01:13:59.560
<v Speaker 7>from Ohio or Pennsylvania? Which which one is it?

1022
01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:04.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes, originally Pennsylvania. Okay.

1023
01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:06.920
<v Speaker 1>And if we're talking baseball by baseball team, I am

1024
01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.239
<v Speaker 1>fond of the Phillies because I grew up watching them

1025
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:12.239
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen nineties, especially the team. I could go

1026
01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:15.000
<v Speaker 1>on and on about that team, which I find fascinating,

1027
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:17.680
<v Speaker 1>but I watched them, So I lean on the Phillies

1028
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:20.319
<v Speaker 1>as a baseball team. But then for other sports I

1029
01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:24.319
<v Speaker 1>usually go with the l A team, the LA Rams. Yeah, okay, Dodgers.

1030
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:26.960
<v Speaker 1>So I you know, so you you got into the

1031
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Phillies when Pete Rose left. Basically, yeah, yeah, I remember

1032
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Mike Schmidt right third playing, But that was before I

1033
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:37.640
<v Speaker 1>even realized that I was so little. Then I was

1034
01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:44.199
<v Speaker 1>more the Lenny Dikstra, John Cruk, Darren Dalden, those guys.

1035
01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:47.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that is the team that I watched. Dykeshra you

1036
01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:50.560
<v Speaker 7>got from the Mets. But that was a bad trade.

1037
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:53.520
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, but Dykesher was a tough player for the

1038
01:14:53.560 --> 01:15:00.680
<v Speaker 7>Phillies for years and years. Anyways, Okay, Kirk Shilling right right, McGraths,

1039
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:01.199
<v Speaker 7>how about that?

1040
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Was he still there? I don't remember that name. I

1041
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:07.039
<v Speaker 2>don't remember watching him. I've heard of that name.

1042
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, yes, kid, I remember what he was, Yes, yes,

1043
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:17.479
<v Speaker 3>I remember him. Uncle remembers I remember that guy, of course, Yeah, yeah,

1044
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:18.359
<v Speaker 3>I remember him.

1045
01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:19.800
<v Speaker 2>The cool name that was.

1046
01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:22.520
<v Speaker 3>That was the guy that was getting like the motor going,

1047
01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:26.239
<v Speaker 3>get the motive going, and he was moving along.

1048
01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:30.640
<v Speaker 2>So that's why his name's Tug super animated. Yeah animated.

1049
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I remember him.

1050
01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:32.880
<v Speaker 3>I remember him.

1051
01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tug the cards start the engine.

1052
01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Here's something like that.

1053
01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:38.920
<v Speaker 2>It was like that guy.

1054
01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Have you had a long hair or was his short hair?

1055
01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:43.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know it was.

1056
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Hair, but but I think deygnated show.

1057
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:51.239
<v Speaker 7>Out a bit, you know what, id Phillies back then, honestly, Aaron,

1058
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:53.760
<v Speaker 7>because I had you know, Philly stations in New Jersey, right,

1059
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:55.640
<v Speaker 7>so I used to be able to watch you know,

1060
01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:59.479
<v Speaker 7>Philly baseball a lot. Is that like they made more

1061
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:03.039
<v Speaker 7>excuse for the Phillies when they lost. Their announcers would

1062
01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:05.039
<v Speaker 7>always be like, the Phillies should have won this, and

1063
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:07.640
<v Speaker 7>if they did, they didn't hear what. It was never

1064
01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:08.479
<v Speaker 7>the team's fault.

1065
01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.560
<v Speaker 2>It was always something else, you know what I mean.

1066
01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:13.239
<v Speaker 7>It was like, oh, well, you know, they should have

1067
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:15.079
<v Speaker 7>beat him, you know, because they got Dykestra and that's it,

1068
01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:18.479
<v Speaker 7>and they should have beat him, you know, like every time,

1069
01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:20.359
<v Speaker 7>every time it wasn't.

1070
01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:23.239
<v Speaker 11>Like, look we just got to beat you know what,

1071
01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:29.560
<v Speaker 11>fur winning Tigers.

1072
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'd have to check showing.

1073
01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:36.199
<v Speaker 1>He bounced around to a few different teams, but he

1074
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:37.760
<v Speaker 1>was on the Phillies for a minute.

1075
01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I forget where he ended up going, uh Red. He

1076
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:46.680
<v Speaker 2>became a star with Phi his career. Maybe, I don't know. Yeah,

1077
01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I think Philly. I think the Red Sox A bunch

1078
01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.479
<v Speaker 2>of teams. He was kind of like just a journeyman

1079
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:56.680
<v Speaker 2>knock around, who gives a crap where he is? Guy?

1080
01:16:56.840 --> 01:16:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1081
01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:01.399
<v Speaker 7>And uh okay, so he he starts, according to what

1082
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:03.920
<v Speaker 7>I see here on the internet, he starts with the

1083
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.920
<v Speaker 7>Orioles and the Astros and he goes to the Phillies for.

1084
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:09.560
<v Speaker 2>About eight years. Yes, it was a while.

1085
01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:13.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, then the Arizona Diamondbacks, then the Boston Red Sox,

1086
01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:14.800
<v Speaker 7>and then he's done.

1087
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:19.359
<v Speaker 2>He retires that he did end up in Boston. Yeah okay, yeah, yeah,

1088
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:21.760
<v Speaker 2>yeah right, And now.

1089
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Now he's now he's loving quanon online and just spreading

1090
01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:28.079
<v Speaker 1>the truth.

1091
01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:29.720
<v Speaker 2>But he was like a nobody.

1092
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:32.199
<v Speaker 7>He was like a nobody for years and years until

1093
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:34.079
<v Speaker 7>toward the end of his run with the Phillies. Then

1094
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:39.479
<v Speaker 7>he was a big contract pitcher. And I'm thinking, when

1095
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:42.039
<v Speaker 7>did the Diamondbacks come into existence, because he might have

1096
01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:43.720
<v Speaker 7>been one of those guys that they gave up, like

1097
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:46.039
<v Speaker 7>they didn't protect him, so he got drafted over there.

1098
01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:48.119
<v Speaker 2>He might have been one of those guys. I don't

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01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:48.520
<v Speaker 2>remember that.

1100
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was probably early on with the team, because

1101
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember it coming into existence like deadly later.

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01:17:54.960 --> 01:18:01.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Diamondbacks did one, no one of these days, not

1103
01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:02.159
<v Speaker 3>long ago.

1104
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Was it last year? The year before they won. Yeah,

1105
01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:07.800
<v Speaker 2>they won the little series.

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01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:12.399
<v Speaker 12>I remember when it was close to one year, one

1107
01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:14.880
<v Speaker 12>year ago with something. I thought they went to one,

1108
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:18.920
<v Speaker 12>but they lost recently. Didn't that happen just one two

1109
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:19.399
<v Speaker 12>years ago?

1110
01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:22.800
<v Speaker 2>All right? I can't remember. I don't know.

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01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:25.640
<v Speaker 7>Well, Kurt Schilling was the first twenty game winner that

1112
01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:28.359
<v Speaker 7>the Diamondbacks ever had, according to I just went to

1113
01:18:28.439 --> 01:18:31.279
<v Speaker 7>the franchise timeline and they mentioned that first, by the way,

1114
01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:38.600
<v Speaker 7>on their timeline. But let's see, it looks like, oh no, wait,

1115
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:40.760
<v Speaker 7>ninety nine, I guess they came into existence.

1116
01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that sounds right. Ninety nine sounds about right them.

1117
01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:49.880
<v Speaker 2>And what other team did the Devil Rays Devil Rais?

1118
01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, another one too. Did Colorado Rockies coming the No,

1119
01:18:57.880 --> 01:18:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that was earlier. That was the same year that the

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01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Marlins came When in ninety I was like early nineties

1121
01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:05.399
<v Speaker 1>ninety two Marlins two?

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01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay, ninety two, that's when mount where the Mullins came.

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01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:11.039
<v Speaker 7>Okay, yeah, right, okay, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna look

1124
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:13.359
<v Speaker 7>that up. But I'm just from my own memory. I

1125
01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:15.039
<v Speaker 7>think the Marlins came in in ninety two.

1126
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was the Rockies Sam time, That's what

1127
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I was saying that does that does sound right? Yeah?

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01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:28.119
<v Speaker 11>I forgot the important part. The Lions destroyed the Cowboys

1129
01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:29.520
<v Speaker 11>just destroyed.

1130
01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah I had them.

1131
01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:34.560
<v Speaker 3>I had them this face wait I had them, but

1132
01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:38.760
<v Speaker 3>but but but look who you lost in that game?

1133
01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, just just for the record, and just for

1134
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:47.479
<v Speaker 2>the record.

1135
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:50.640
<v Speaker 7>Uh, the Marlins came into existence in ninety two, and

1136
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:52.800
<v Speaker 7>they didn't They played their first game in ninety three.

1137
01:19:54.159 --> 01:20:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh yeah, you hold on? Is on this line?

1138
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:07.159
<v Speaker 2>He got hello? Hang on, hang on? Who's that talking? There?

1139
01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:07.399
<v Speaker 5>We go?

1140
01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:10.600
<v Speaker 13>All right, man, I got to make a couple of

1141
01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:19.159
<v Speaker 13>corrections from what I've been hearing here. Tawny has not pitched.

1142
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:23.000
<v Speaker 13>He's coming off with Tommy John surgery. He's projected to

1143
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:29.000
<v Speaker 13>pitch next year. There has been some rumor. There's been

1144
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:32.640
<v Speaker 13>some rumor he may pitch in the postseason. I'm guessing

1145
01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:38.760
<v Speaker 13>maybe in a relief role, but that has not happened yet. Chuck,

1146
01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:44.319
<v Speaker 13>uh and uncle, you're not a Mets fan. They're from Queens.

1147
01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:46.760
<v Speaker 13>You say you're from Brooklyn. Where the hell do you

1148
01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:50.920
<v Speaker 13>think the Dodgers began? The Dodgers Tooklyn. I wear my

1149
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:53.359
<v Speaker 13>Brooklyn Dodger cap more than I wear the l a

1150
01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:57.359
<v Speaker 13>Dodger cap. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, the Dodgers

1151
01:20:57.479 --> 01:20:58.560
<v Speaker 13>began in Brooklyn.

1152
01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll go forgot where he's from.

1153
01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:07.000
<v Speaker 1>He's from a different boroughs in that area.

1154
01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you.

1155
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:10.920
<v Speaker 13>You're not a Mets fan. Man, Get off of that.

1156
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:13.439
<v Speaker 13>You're no Mets fan. Quick, kind of fool everybody.

1157
01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I thought Otani was pitching.

1158
01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:20.479
<v Speaker 13>I thought is a Mets fan. Chuck is an authentic

1159
01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:23.600
<v Speaker 13>Mets fan. You are not a Mets fan, Uncle stock.

1160
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Of Mantani.

1161
01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:31.640
<v Speaker 7>By the way, just.

1162
01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Oani, did I know what.

1163
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:38.319
<v Speaker 13>I'm talking about. I'm a baseball you know what. I

1164
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:39.039
<v Speaker 13>understand that.

1165
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:45.159
<v Speaker 2>He's correct, though, did not pitch, That's right. I didn't know.

1166
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Why are they putting designated hitters in the National League

1167
01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:52.000
<v Speaker 2>playoff games? Well, it's it's a it's a whole different Well, no.

1168
01:21:52.199 --> 01:21:54.640
<v Speaker 13>They started that last year. The National League has the

1169
01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:59.359
<v Speaker 13>d H. Now, Chuck, God, everybody, we're all DH.

1170
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:01.560
<v Speaker 7>Now what you heard me ask like, did they put

1171
01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:03.600
<v Speaker 7>him in the outfield or what? Because I didn't understand

1172
01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:05.439
<v Speaker 7>how he was in there unless he was pitching and

1173
01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:06.399
<v Speaker 7>he hit.

1174
01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:06.840
<v Speaker 2>A home run.

1175
01:22:07.039 --> 01:22:10.159
<v Speaker 13>No, No, he's a DH because the National League adopted

1176
01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:11.319
<v Speaker 13>the DH last year.

1177
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh, for God's sake, that's why the regular.

1178
01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:15.399
<v Speaker 13>Season, postseason we're all DH.

1179
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Now, oh, God help him with all the.

1180
01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:20.720
<v Speaker 13>H until I become ruler of baseball, then I will

1181
01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:23.079
<v Speaker 13>get rid of the DH. But right now we're all

1182
01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:23.479
<v Speaker 13>the H.

1183
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, anyway, that's how he's gotten his hits, right, and

1184
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:28.800
<v Speaker 2>he's uh, what is he is? The agent? He's gone

1185
01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:33.560
<v Speaker 2>six for twenty seven yeah. Yeah, in the postseason yeah,

1186
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:34.159
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, but.

1187
01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:38.399
<v Speaker 13>With runners on base, he's like seventeen for twenty one. Yeah,

1188
01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:42.439
<v Speaker 13>right just before the season ended. He's got a crazy,

1189
01:22:43.399 --> 01:22:47.359
<v Speaker 13>crazy line. He runners on base, he knocks him in.

1190
01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.399
<v Speaker 13>Of course he hits the odd leadoff home run now

1191
01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:54.359
<v Speaker 13>and then, but like but no, yeah, he's got a

1192
01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:57.239
<v Speaker 13>crazy thing. He's hitting like two hundred, but all of

1193
01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:00.439
<v Speaker 13>his hits for the last month have come with runners

1194
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:00.880
<v Speaker 13>on base.

1195
01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:02.159
<v Speaker 2>So it was pretty wild.

1196
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:05.680
<v Speaker 13>They called him in the Unicorn man, and he he

1197
01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:06.439
<v Speaker 13>hit that ball.

1198
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Now you did you see that ball? He fouled off

1199
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:09.319
<v Speaker 2>his crotch.

1200
01:23:11.880 --> 01:23:12.800
<v Speaker 13>I didn't see anything.

1201
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.479
<v Speaker 3>I I got the at that deal.

1202
01:23:15.640 --> 01:23:18.560
<v Speaker 13>So I'm listening to the radio broadcast. I'll watch the

1203
01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:19.319
<v Speaker 13>highlights later.

1204
01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, did you hear how he fouled off the crotch.

1205
01:23:22.279 --> 01:23:23.399
<v Speaker 13>I hope he's okay, man.

1206
01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:25.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he looked he was in pain. I'll tell you

1207
01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:27.960
<v Speaker 7>that much he was. He was like really struggling to

1208
01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:28.520
<v Speaker 7>shake it off.

1209
01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:34.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was that was right. Yeah. But oh but chuck, uh, chuck.

1210
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Count Pepper says he's on the phone line. Actually, I'm

1211
01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:38.199
<v Speaker 2>not sure.

1212
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:42.279
<v Speaker 13>If let's Count Pepper know about baseball?

1213
01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Bring him in here.

1214
01:23:43.159 --> 01:23:44.920
<v Speaker 2>He's next in line. You want me to add him?

1215
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:48.600
<v Speaker 3>And now hold on a second, you that's uh, let's

1216
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:49.680
<v Speaker 3>put him on in line.

1217
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1218
01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:54.520
<v Speaker 7>You want me to leave, so you want me to

1219
01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:56.640
<v Speaker 7>leave conversations, Well, let me ask you, uncle, Let me

1220
01:23:56.680 --> 01:23:57.880
<v Speaker 7>ask you so I know what I'm doing here.

1221
01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:00.159
<v Speaker 2>You want me to leave ed on and just bring

1222
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Count Popper or what? Yeah?

1223
01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:06.199
<v Speaker 3>All right, what about let's have them to talk to

1224
01:24:07.319 --> 01:24:08.840
<v Speaker 3>you proper, talk to a.

1225
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I want to have that about. I'm listening to this,

1226
01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:15.399
<v Speaker 2>all right, Pupper.

1227
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:17.520
<v Speaker 13>I'm a couple of cocktails into this man, and you

1228
01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:18.640
<v Speaker 13>better know some baseball.

1229
01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:23.239
<v Speaker 14>Like I've been having a few drinks too. I was

1230
01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:26.520
<v Speaker 14>just gonna say, I love my Phillies. They weren't playing aggressive,

1231
01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:28.920
<v Speaker 14>they weren't slinging at any of the pictures they should

1232
01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:31.239
<v Speaker 14>have been swinging at. They were being kind of a

1233
01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:34.520
<v Speaker 14>bit of a pussy and they had one the strongest

1234
01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:36.840
<v Speaker 14>openings of all time in the season, and they really

1235
01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:38.960
<v Speaker 14>let us all down, all the silly fans.

1236
01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>So Ed, I gotta ask you, I gotta ask a question. Listen,

1237
01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:48.720
<v Speaker 2>you hope the Mets lose all he was pupper? Then

1238
01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:51.600
<v Speaker 2>all right? Anyways, listen, Ed, I got.

1239
01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:53.479
<v Speaker 13>No bard, Baby, I got a cuss.

1240
01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:02.000
<v Speaker 7>Do you think is going to recover from this Tommy

1241
01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:04.159
<v Speaker 7>John surgery? Because a lot of these pictures, I mean

1242
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:07.159
<v Speaker 7>some do, but a lot of them they go through

1243
01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:08.319
<v Speaker 7>that Tommy John surgery.

1244
01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:11.239
<v Speaker 2>They're never the same who we're talking.

1245
01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:16.680
<v Speaker 7>About sometimes, but I mean they're never the look I said,

1246
01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:17.399
<v Speaker 7>they're never the same.

1247
01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:19.479
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say they're never better. I said they're never

1248
01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:21.399
<v Speaker 2>the same. And some of them in their careers are over.

1249
01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:24.920
<v Speaker 7>I mean, he's still got a hell of a bat apparently,

1250
01:25:25.439 --> 01:25:27.600
<v Speaker 7>So you know, I mean, you could figure a place,

1251
01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:29.640
<v Speaker 7>especially if the National League is going to keep the

1252
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:34.279
<v Speaker 7>damn d h Uh. It makes me sick, but it's

1253
01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:38.159
<v Speaker 7>a new game, a new game that's horrible. I hate

1254
01:25:38.279 --> 01:25:41.960
<v Speaker 7>when you know, if a pitcher can throw at somebody. See,

1255
01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:44.239
<v Speaker 7>I'm telling you. They had a Japanese guy, another guy

1256
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:45.680
<v Speaker 7>Yamamoto or whatever.

1257
01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:48.359
<v Speaker 2>That's who was picture still on Dodges.

1258
01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:54.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and he hit and he had a hit batsman

1259
01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:58.560
<v Speaker 7>that night, the same night as Otani hit, but one

1260
01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:00.279
<v Speaker 7>of the home runs, not the night he hit the

1261
01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:02.600
<v Speaker 7>lead off, but the night he knocked in a couple

1262
01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:07.319
<v Speaker 7>of people or whatever. That night he hit one of

1263
01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:10.840
<v Speaker 7>the mets right on the leg hard. And I said

1264
01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:13.039
<v Speaker 7>to myself, you know what, that sucks because this guy

1265
01:26:13.159 --> 01:26:14.920
<v Speaker 7>he could hit somebody. And I don't think of tany

1266
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:16.520
<v Speaker 7>Yamamoto meant to hit him.

1267
01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

1268
01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:21.119
<v Speaker 7>But either way, if he did, if somebody got nasty

1269
01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:23.680
<v Speaker 7>like that, this guy needs to stand in the box.

1270
01:26:24.439 --> 01:26:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the way I've always seen it, you

1271
01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

1272
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well they told him, Yeah, you go out of

1273
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:36.079
<v Speaker 3>the game to take yours take. You're out of the game,

1274
01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:38.880
<v Speaker 3>chef out and sit down on the bench.

1275
01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Just so what so you get Okay, I get an

1276
01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:43.680
<v Speaker 2>early night bye. So what you know what I'm saying that.

1277
01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:47.760
<v Speaker 7>No real consequence though, you know what, you throw out

1278
01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:50.319
<v Speaker 7>a star player, you hurt their star player or something. Man,

1279
01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:52.319
<v Speaker 7>you know, I got no problem with the next picture

1280
01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:55.199
<v Speaker 7>drilling one off of your back, you know what I mean,

1281
01:26:56.199 --> 01:26:58.960
<v Speaker 7>because it's like turn the bouts. I mean, seriously there,

1282
01:26:59.439 --> 01:27:01.319
<v Speaker 7>you know. I mean, I know we live in the

1283
01:27:01.359 --> 01:27:03.479
<v Speaker 7>age of everybody needs to be careful with everybody. But

1284
01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:06.359
<v Speaker 7>you know, come on, either you're gonna play the game

1285
01:27:06.439 --> 01:27:08.520
<v Speaker 7>or you're not, you know what I mean. And I

1286
01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:12.159
<v Speaker 7>say a pitcher has to stand in that box. Yeah,

1287
01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:15.000
<v Speaker 7>that makes sense. It's it's always odd to me.

1288
01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean I never really played baseball personally, so I

1289
01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:21.279
<v Speaker 1>always found it odd that somebody's so good at pitching

1290
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:24.439
<v Speaker 1>that they can't turn around and back like the other

1291
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>players all over the field.

1292
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Like, what is it about pitching? Does it wear your

1293
01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>arm out so much? It's a totally different skill? Is

1294
01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:33.159
<v Speaker 2>it's a completely different skill? Well, isn't it a different

1295
01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>skill from playing first base too? You know what I mean? Like,

1296
01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:36.960
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make sense to me.

1297
01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:40.600
<v Speaker 7>But here's the thing, Eric, Look, the honest thing is

1298
01:27:41.079 --> 01:27:43.039
<v Speaker 7>if you can pitch real, real, well, you don't need

1299
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:43.359
<v Speaker 7>to hit.

1300
01:27:43.960 --> 01:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Right whether or not. I mean, even when you got

1301
01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:49.279
<v Speaker 2>the class.

1302
01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:51.640
<v Speaker 7>It's a protected class. So look, if you're a good

1303
01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:53.279
<v Speaker 7>enough pitcher, we don't care if you can hit. Now

1304
01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:55.560
<v Speaker 7>Atani is a unicorn, Like.

1305
01:27:56.159 --> 01:27:57.920
<v Speaker 3>It was very good and he hits.

1306
01:27:58.399 --> 01:27:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh I knew who he was.

1307
01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.640
<v Speaker 3>He played for the Giants and he moved over to

1308
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:10.399
<v Speaker 3>another team. I don't know what I was gardener, that's

1309
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:12.039
<v Speaker 3>bum gardener.

1310
01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:17.359
<v Speaker 2>But you were talking about David Colen when he was

1311
01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:18.520
<v Speaker 2>with the Mets, was a good hitter.

1312
01:28:19.439 --> 01:28:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, you're talking about Chuck about hitting and pitching and

1313
01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:28.319
<v Speaker 3>the hitting. Bum Garner. He is a good hitter and

1314
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:30.960
<v Speaker 3>a good swinger, a good mumper.

1315
01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but a freak of nature though, I mean, we

1316
01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen.

1317
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:39.000
<v Speaker 3>He's a freak of nature.

1318
01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:40.039
<v Speaker 2>We haven't seen a guy like this.

1319
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:45.479
<v Speaker 3>By talking about you're talking about pitch, there's no hit.

1320
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:51.199
<v Speaker 3>This d h stuff and this stuff he'd take. It's

1321
01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:57.359
<v Speaker 3>like taking his bat, Bumgarne, his bat away from him.

1322
01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:00.520
<v Speaker 3>And but you know he's good to hear.

1323
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Well. I always, I always.

1324
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I always found it odd that Otani was on the

1325
01:29:05.119 --> 01:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Angels in the American League the whole time, where it

1326
01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:10.159
<v Speaker 1>seems like he was clearly made to be in the

1327
01:29:10.279 --> 01:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>National League, that he could be hitting and pitching, Like,

1328
01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>why is this guy not on a national league team?

1329
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Why the Angels?

1330
01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, see I would see no problem sticking the Dodgers

1331
01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:20.479
<v Speaker 1>the rule change, but I would see.

1332
01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:22.920
<v Speaker 7>No problems sticking him on an American League team, because

1333
01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:25.039
<v Speaker 7>you know what, where is there a rule that says

1334
01:29:25.079 --> 01:29:27.800
<v Speaker 7>you can't be a DH and a pitcher. So I

1335
01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:29.880
<v Speaker 7>would DH this guy a couple times a week and

1336
01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:31.800
<v Speaker 7>then let him pitch in his rotation, you know what

1337
01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:32.119
<v Speaker 7>I mean?

1338
01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:33.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1339
01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:36.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean and they did that? Yeah, and didn't didn't

1340
01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the Angels do that with him? Or no? Yeah? Yeah? Anyway, okay, yeah,

1341
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>as I recall, they did do that. Yeah, you know,

1342
01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the American League.

1343
01:29:47.079 --> 01:29:49.680
<v Speaker 7>I've never been a fan of the American League, mainly

1344
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:51.199
<v Speaker 7>for this DHS situation.

1345
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:54.079
<v Speaker 2>But now there's no damn difference. So I it's crazy.

1346
01:29:56.960 --> 01:30:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure I'm getting actually on this truth. I'm actually

1347
01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:06.560
<v Speaker 3>getting bored. Pum this DH. What you guys do that?

1348
01:30:07.399 --> 01:30:07.479
<v Speaker 7>Oh?

1349
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, all right, because.

1350
01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:14.279
<v Speaker 15>These DH I do agree. Like I go back to

1351
01:30:14.399 --> 01:30:20.039
<v Speaker 15>Goddill again. This guy hit the pool to the pitch

1352
01:30:20.600 --> 01:30:22.640
<v Speaker 15>and hit the pool and threw the pitch.

1353
01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:27.439
<v Speaker 3>What is wrong with a pitcher hitting a pool?

1354
01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:31.399
<v Speaker 2>It removes okay, but it removes a whole element of

1355
01:30:31.479 --> 01:30:34.159
<v Speaker 2>the game where you had. Look, let's figure out do

1356
01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:34.600
<v Speaker 2>we need.

1357
01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:36.119
<v Speaker 7>To take this guy out for a hit or now

1358
01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:38.399
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean, do we need to bring

1359
01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:41.560
<v Speaker 7>in another bat because okay, I got a defensive shortstop.

1360
01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:43.920
<v Speaker 7>He's great a defense, but he doesn't hit worth the crap.

1361
01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:46.039
<v Speaker 7>Or we got a good catcher and we need a

1362
01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:47.359
<v Speaker 7>good catcher, but he doesn't hit.

1363
01:30:47.960 --> 01:30:49.119
<v Speaker 2>He can't run, he can't hit.

1364
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:53.680
<v Speaker 3>How they work it, that's how the managers work it.

1365
01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Well said it, Chuck, But.

1366
01:30:56.039 --> 01:30:58.119
<v Speaker 7>It removes that whole element, like I don't need to

1367
01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:00.279
<v Speaker 7>worry about okay Otani. You know what I'll do, move

1368
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:02.560
<v Speaker 7>him over and when he's done his pitching arms tired, fine,

1369
01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:04.640
<v Speaker 7>let's put him in the DH spot after, you know,

1370
01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:06.680
<v Speaker 7>swap out the DH they held it.

1371
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean. And that way you've

1372
01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:13.600
<v Speaker 2>got a power threat in the lineup the whole time. Yeah,

1373
01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:16.520
<v Speaker 2>was what he had fifty six this year fifty five

1374
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:23.039
<v Speaker 2>something like that, ed fifty four, fifty four and he's

1375
01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:24.199
<v Speaker 2>not even a pumped.

1376
01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:25.920
<v Speaker 13>Up looking gun stolen basis.

1377
01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he's got speed.

1378
01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:32.399
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, think about that fifty to fifty player. Yeah, I

1379
01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:37.159
<v Speaker 7>mean that's outrageous. That's ever Hall of Fame, Like he's

1380
01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:40.039
<v Speaker 7>almost guaranteed Hall of Fame already, right.

1381
01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, he's I know that.

1382
01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:49.840
<v Speaker 3>He's kept saying. He kept saying on the interview when

1383
01:31:50.239 --> 01:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>when he was talking to his manager, he won it

1384
01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:59.960
<v Speaker 3>go to a team that because he gets into the

1385
01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:00.720
<v Speaker 3>play of us.

1386
01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he wants to win something.

1387
01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:05.960
<v Speaker 3>He should win to win something. He kept saying that

1388
01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:11.159
<v Speaker 3>oba and over again to his manager and his managers, saying,

1389
01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:13.159
<v Speaker 3>just like we're talking.

1390
01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Just like that.

1391
01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to get a team that really really

1392
01:32:20.359 --> 01:32:25.079
<v Speaker 3>needs me. And like he did, he went to the Dungees. Yeah, yeah,

1393
01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:26.279
<v Speaker 3>that's how it happened.

1394
01:32:26.520 --> 01:32:28.640
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I don't know what size contract he's gonna get,

1395
01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:31.199
<v Speaker 7>but I mean, geez, you know, even even without the

1396
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:35.000
<v Speaker 7>pitching on them, he's saying he's got he's on.

1397
01:32:35.079 --> 01:32:37.800
<v Speaker 13>A ten year, seven hundred million guys.

1398
01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's one of that. You didn't hear about that? Yeah,

1399
01:32:42.680 --> 01:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I thought so, but I wasn't sure if that was

1400
01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>like the rumored deal.

1401
01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:47.600
<v Speaker 7>But you know, you know what I mean where they

1402
01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:49.479
<v Speaker 7>always release all these things, this is what we think

1403
01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:51.039
<v Speaker 7>the deal is going to be, and then you know

1404
01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:52.279
<v Speaker 7>it doesn't turn out that way.

1405
01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:59.000
<v Speaker 13>I know, yeah, because he because he's because a good picture.

1406
01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:03.159
<v Speaker 13>You know, Clayton Kershaw was the first thirty million plus

1407
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:07.560
<v Speaker 13>guy pitcher just as a pitcher. But Otani, he's a

1408
01:33:07.680 --> 01:33:11.800
<v Speaker 13>top line starter and a slugger, right he does. You know,

1409
01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:13.960
<v Speaker 13>he's got to get two paychecks.

1410
01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Here pretty much. I don't see any objection there. I mean, look,

1411
01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:18.960
<v Speaker 2>if these other guys are worth I don't either.

1412
01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:21.680
<v Speaker 7>These other guys are worth three hundred million over the

1413
01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:25.119
<v Speaker 7>course of a decade. This guy's easily worth six, you know,

1414
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:27.720
<v Speaker 7>just saying if that's.

1415
01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:29.760
<v Speaker 13>What the going rate is and he's getting seven.

1416
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well so be it. Get what you can get.

1417
01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it's not like these franchises. Yeah,

1418
01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:40.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean I know it hurts us because now you know.

1419
01:33:40.479 --> 01:33:42.840
<v Speaker 13>Of course, you know what he's not when he comes

1420
01:33:42.920 --> 01:33:45.159
<v Speaker 13>back from this Tommy John. See if he's still got

1421
01:33:45.239 --> 01:33:48.920
<v Speaker 13>the ninety six to one hundred mile an hour fastball

1422
01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:51.159
<v Speaker 13>and all the other pitches he has, you know, I mean,

1423
01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:54.159
<v Speaker 13>he's it's not like he can pitch, but he's so

1424
01:33:54.439 --> 01:33:56.359
<v Speaker 13>so he's a top line starter.

1425
01:33:56.680 --> 01:33:58.920
<v Speaker 7>Well see that's the other thing is it looks even

1426
01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:01.359
<v Speaker 7>if he doesn't have the val he could come back

1427
01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:03.720
<v Speaker 7>and you know, he's very intelligent.

1428
01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:06.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm watching what he's doing with his process

1429
01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:06.520
<v Speaker 2>at the plate.

1430
01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:10.960
<v Speaker 7>Even he's an intelligent hitter, so you know, I'm imagining

1431
01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:13.239
<v Speaker 7>that with his stats as a pitcher's he's been very

1432
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:16.680
<v Speaker 7>intelligent there. Some of these guys lose velocity and it's okay,

1433
01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:19.600
<v Speaker 7>you know, I mean, you don't need to be a fireman.

1434
01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:24.000
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, Kershaw lost his velocity, but he's still one of

1435
01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:27.680
<v Speaker 13>the better pictures when he's healthy, even without his velocity.

1436
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:30.079
<v Speaker 7>Because he started utilizing a little trickery. It's like he

1437
01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:32.640
<v Speaker 7>throws you off with the with the splitter or whatever,

1438
01:34:32.760 --> 01:34:33.479
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean.

1439
01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:36.439
<v Speaker 2>And it's deceptive. It's about the deception out of the hand.

1440
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:39.159
<v Speaker 7>If your fastball looks the same as the change up,

1441
01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:43.000
<v Speaker 7>you know, these guys are screwed. I mean, it's very

1442
01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:43.520
<v Speaker 7>hard to hit.

1443
01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:43.640
<v Speaker 2>That.

1444
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:46.159
<v Speaker 13>Big part of baseball is the mind game, you know,

1445
01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:48.199
<v Speaker 13>between the hitter and the picture. It's a mind game.

1446
01:34:48.359 --> 01:34:52.399
<v Speaker 2>That's why. That's why I still him. That's what baseball.

1447
01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it works, the mind, It works, the mind exactly.

1448
01:34:58.960 --> 01:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Hit it, uncle, You.

1449
01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I think bailed on us, by the way.

1450
01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he's in the chat at turch he said

1451
01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:08.399
<v Speaker 1>he had to get going, but he's in the chat.

1452
01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:10.800
<v Speaker 5>Here.

1453
01:35:11.359 --> 01:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's not there, now, get well, he's not on

1454
01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the phone, but he's he went, he's on the chat twitch.

1455
01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:17.159
<v Speaker 2>He said he had to get going. But we do

1456
01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:20.000
<v Speaker 2>have u we stoll ed, we stove Jimmy.

1457
01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're gonna put Jimmy on with it or Jimmy, Yeah,

1458
01:35:23.239 --> 01:35:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I have Jimmy come on for a few minutes.

1459
01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:29.119
<v Speaker 2>You all right, whatever you want, your hour, whatever you say. Indeed,

1460
01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:32.279
<v Speaker 2>So there he goes. Now we got Jimmy on with

1461
01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:34.119
<v Speaker 2>it at the same time. So I don't know. Maybe

1462
01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:41.680
<v Speaker 2>they're going to talk Tigers now. Job.

1463
01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:46.199
<v Speaker 12>Uh.

1464
01:35:48.279 --> 01:35:52.760
<v Speaker 11>The North Conference is now the best in all of football.

1465
01:35:53.680 --> 01:35:56.840
<v Speaker 11>I mean we're we're were it's at now. I don't

1466
01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.760
<v Speaker 11>think it's out West or East. I think the Lions,

1467
01:35:59.840 --> 01:36:02.319
<v Speaker 11>the Bears, the Vikings, the Packers.

1468
01:36:03.239 --> 01:36:06.319
<v Speaker 2>I think we're the ones to be I told.

1469
01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:09.720
<v Speaker 3>You, I told you, didn't I tell you watch out

1470
01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:10.560
<v Speaker 3>for those Bears.

1471
01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:12.479
<v Speaker 2>We're back to the flyover States.

1472
01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:16.920
<v Speaker 3>They were gonna be good bears. Wait until you guys

1473
01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:20.560
<v Speaker 3>play the piss. That's gonna be a hard one to

1474
01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:33.039
<v Speaker 3>pick picking tones here. Huh yeah yeah, So uncle.

1475
01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:35.600
<v Speaker 2>You said you said you don't want to pick football.

1476
01:36:36.079 --> 01:36:38.399
<v Speaker 2>To uncle, you said, you don't want to pick football, But.

1477
01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:40.840
<v Speaker 7>Who do you think forget about who you're rooting for.

1478
01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:42.439
<v Speaker 7>Who do you think is going to be in the

1479
01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:46.920
<v Speaker 7>World Series? Who do you think is going like?

1480
01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Who do you think practically is most likely to be

1481
01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:50.680
<v Speaker 2>in that World Series next week?

1482
01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:53.319
<v Speaker 3>I think that Yankees will be there.

1483
01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yankees will be there.

1484
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:57.439
<v Speaker 3>They're just hanging on right now.

1485
01:36:57.640 --> 01:36:59.039
<v Speaker 2>They're hanging on right now.

1486
01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:02.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the finding wasn't that, But I

1487
01:37:02.399 --> 01:37:13.239
<v Speaker 3>think the Yankees will be there, even though I don't

1488
01:37:13.239 --> 01:37:15.640
<v Speaker 3>know what to toss up on the other side, do.

1489
01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:17.359
<v Speaker 2>You think it's a toss up between the Mets and

1490
01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers?

1491
01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:24.760
<v Speaker 3>But because of how they're how they come back, how

1492
01:37:24.880 --> 01:37:28.359
<v Speaker 3>they rek, I say, good luck, Uncle, I've come back

1493
01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>on something. I mean, you don't want to just did

1494
01:37:32.079 --> 01:37:38.039
<v Speaker 3>it last this season with the Phillies. I'm a little

1495
01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:43.239
<v Speaker 3>tossed on that down division because of.

1496
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:45.000
<v Speaker 10>That.

1497
01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Yankees won ninety four games this year.

1498
01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:53.960
<v Speaker 3>You know. But who I think's gonna win the whole thing?

1499
01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:55.600
<v Speaker 3>You might know that?

1500
01:37:56.720 --> 01:38:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the big it Yankees. Man, the big Yankees.

1501
01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:07.199
<v Speaker 3>Will take either any either one of them.

1502
01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I hate bring them in, bring them up.

1503
01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I know I hate him too. I know I hate

1504
01:38:12.399 --> 01:38:22.199
<v Speaker 3>him too. I do hate them, But I'm looking at that.

1505
01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:26.600
<v Speaker 2>See, I'm gonna whether the Dodgers or the Mets make it.

1506
01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:28.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm rooting for the National League team. I'll tell you

1507
01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:31.560
<v Speaker 7>that now, because I cannot stand. I just I don't

1508
01:38:31.680 --> 01:38:32.600
<v Speaker 7>like the American League.

1509
01:38:32.680 --> 01:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I never have.

1510
01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:39.439
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know how they're doing it. I really

1511
01:38:39.479 --> 01:38:41.800
<v Speaker 3>don't know how the Yankees are doing it. You know,

1512
01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:44.520
<v Speaker 3>they buy the best pitching or hitting or they've always

1513
01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:48.479
<v Speaker 3>done the way they do things. It's just the way

1514
01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:52.079
<v Speaker 3>they do things. Yeah, it's real standpoint.

1515
01:38:52.279 --> 01:38:54.760
<v Speaker 2>They very intelligent say.

1516
01:38:54.880 --> 01:39:01.399
<v Speaker 3>The team is behind the people they're behind, and they still, oh,

1517
01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:03.840
<v Speaker 3>whoa coming up?

1518
01:39:06.239 --> 01:39:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Uncle.

1519
01:39:06.560 --> 01:39:07.479
<v Speaker 3>They buy the.

1520
01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Team to win this thing, but they get a huge

1521
01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:14.439
<v Speaker 2>payroll uncle every time. Okay, And what they do is

1522
01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:15.600
<v Speaker 2>going to cut their payroll.

1523
01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:18.479
<v Speaker 3>And this is why I don't even know how they

1524
01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:22.720
<v Speaker 3>think they do not need any more players. Well, no,

1525
01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:29.199
<v Speaker 3>they never do, because and have done players down. You

1526
01:39:29.359 --> 01:39:31.199
<v Speaker 3>got your players, live with it.

1527
01:39:31.399 --> 01:39:33.600
<v Speaker 7>Well, everybody's got the same number of players. But the

1528
01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:36.279
<v Speaker 7>thing is, the Yankees will turn around, though, and they're

1529
01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:38.399
<v Speaker 7>not only you know, every other team. Usually they got

1530
01:39:38.439 --> 01:39:40.680
<v Speaker 7>their top flight people that's their best people. And they

1531
01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:43.199
<v Speaker 7>buy a team that they think they can field and

1532
01:39:43.279 --> 01:39:46.319
<v Speaker 7>that's their top starters. Then the bench guys are always

1533
01:39:46.359 --> 01:39:48.600
<v Speaker 7>a mix, right, guys on their way to the end

1534
01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:51.399
<v Speaker 7>of their career, guys that are brand new, rookies, stuff

1535
01:39:51.520 --> 01:39:54.039
<v Speaker 7>like that, that they gotten reserve, and almost always a

1536
01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:56.760
<v Speaker 7>couple of them end up in there because the injuries or.

1537
01:39:56.760 --> 01:39:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Whatever things happen.

1538
01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:01.000
<v Speaker 7>But the Yankees will turn around out and pretty much

1539
01:40:01.439 --> 01:40:03.680
<v Speaker 7>they get top line people even on their bench.

1540
01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:06.359
<v Speaker 3>There's another reason why.

1541
01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:09.479
<v Speaker 2>I also like how they operate.

1542
01:40:11.079 --> 01:40:14.359
<v Speaker 3>Not just then I'm a Yankee fan, man, take that

1543
01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:19.399
<v Speaker 3>on in mine, but how they operate. For example, I tank.

1544
01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I tank the.

1545
01:40:22.920 --> 01:40:28.359
<v Speaker 3>I tank the Marlins, for example, to the Yankees, now

1546
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:34.560
<v Speaker 3>they remember, they remember the Marlins won their first War series.

1547
01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:41.840
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, why don't you keep the tained idiot, Well, why

1548
01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:45.319
<v Speaker 10>don't you keep the team because they had a cheap

1549
01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:46.159
<v Speaker 10>teal we.

1550
01:40:46.359 --> 01:40:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Could But you see that the Yankees on the other hand,

1551
01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:53.119
<v Speaker 3>now listening here, Chuck Cloaks.

1552
01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:55.079
<v Speaker 2>But it's easy for the Yankees.

1553
01:40:55.159 --> 01:41:01.520
<v Speaker 3>On the other hand, they do not just oh, let's

1554
01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:02.800
<v Speaker 3>get rid of plays.

1555
01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Because look, you like that. But here's the problem. It

1556
01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:12.319
<v Speaker 2>perpetuates the idea that the richest guy in the room

1557
01:41:12.399 --> 01:41:12.920
<v Speaker 2>gets to win.

1558
01:41:13.159 --> 01:41:15.399
<v Speaker 7>You know what I'm saying. And that's what happens there

1559
01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:17.560
<v Speaker 7>because look, the reason why the Marlins got rid of

1560
01:41:17.600 --> 01:41:19.520
<v Speaker 7>that team, and I know it bothered you, but the

1561
01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:22.279
<v Speaker 7>reason why is because now because they were winners, it

1562
01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:24.920
<v Speaker 7>was going to cost them five times as much.

1563
01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:30.359
<v Speaker 3>But they don't make good Uncle, change my point.

1564
01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:34.079
<v Speaker 2>You can't. But you can't charge people. Okay, but here

1565
01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:34.840
<v Speaker 2>here's the thing.

1566
01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:40.560
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't have the money, then get then stay out

1567
01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:42.760
<v Speaker 3>and pay for them. Yeah, but that's the thing.

1568
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:45.479
<v Speaker 7>Then that means you only want rich cities to be there,

1569
01:41:45.520 --> 01:41:47.479
<v Speaker 7>because look, you're not going to be able to charge

1570
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:50.560
<v Speaker 7>the same money to go to a game in Miami

1571
01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:54.000
<v Speaker 7>as you are in New York City. You can't charge

1572
01:41:54.039 --> 01:41:55.840
<v Speaker 7>the same for a hot dog and shirt and nothing.

1573
01:41:56.840 --> 01:41:58.079
<v Speaker 7>They don't have the same money.

1574
01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:02.279
<v Speaker 2>About Milwaukee? What is Bill Walker? Cleveland?

1575
01:42:02.520 --> 01:42:06.039
<v Speaker 3>Cleveland? Cleveland?

1576
01:42:06.359 --> 01:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know? Or these second tiers? All right? Fine,

1577
01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:12.359
<v Speaker 2>you know California's got freaking what six teams already or whatever.

1578
01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:15.039
<v Speaker 3>We got six teams and loncal we got six teams

1579
01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:17.760
<v Speaker 3>sittingy and we got done. Its just hanging on for

1580
01:42:17.920 --> 01:42:20.359
<v Speaker 3>one more game. Beginning this wool city. Yeah yeah, and

1581
01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:23.760
<v Speaker 3>then and you and you're complaining the pout and you're

1582
01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:26.239
<v Speaker 3>complain of he's rich, greenbul but.

1583
01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:28.840
<v Speaker 2>LA has money. Okay, But here's the thing. It's the

1584
01:42:28.960 --> 01:42:32.239
<v Speaker 2>teams with the money that get to win, right, He's so.

1585
01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:34.279
<v Speaker 7>But if that's all it is, then it's a big

1586
01:42:34.319 --> 01:42:36.439
<v Speaker 7>casino game and it's got nothing to do with the sport.

1587
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:38.520
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying. That's why I like it.

1588
01:42:39.600 --> 01:42:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hate them, get yeah, but who doesn't that bother you?

1589
01:42:43.039 --> 01:42:44.039
<v Speaker 3>The sports? Mine?

1590
01:42:44.119 --> 01:42:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Come on, doesn't that bother you a little bit? Only

1591
01:42:47.199 --> 01:42:51.439
<v Speaker 2>the rich guys that? Okay, tell me about it. I

1592
01:42:52.039 --> 01:42:53.760
<v Speaker 2>get my points out. Go ahead, give me give him

1593
01:42:53.760 --> 01:42:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the point. Give him the point because I'm not making

1594
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:01.039
<v Speaker 2>my point. Go ahead. You may just not making this point. Okay.

1595
01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:05.399
<v Speaker 13>Look, if you own a ball club, and now, ball

1596
01:43:05.439 --> 01:43:09.720
<v Speaker 13>clubs are usually owned by ownership groups, not just like

1597
01:43:10.319 --> 01:43:12.880
<v Speaker 13>you know, the O'Malley's or or what was the guys

1598
01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:14.560
<v Speaker 13>that used to own the Yankees, the.

1599
01:43:16.279 --> 01:43:24.399
<v Speaker 2>What was the guy's names? Out? What it is?

1600
01:43:26.119 --> 01:43:30.159
<v Speaker 13>All these teams make money, but not all of them

1601
01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:33.279
<v Speaker 13>want to spend money. Now, you got whoever, I don't

1602
01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:35.520
<v Speaker 13>know who owns the Yankees now. But the Dodgers got

1603
01:43:35.880 --> 01:43:40.520
<v Speaker 13>five six guys and they're clearly baseball fans, so they

1604
01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:45.640
<v Speaker 13>put their money into the team. And the Yankees obviously

1605
01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:49.600
<v Speaker 13>are still doing the same thing. Whoever's running that team now.

1606
01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:52.600
<v Speaker 13>I follow the Mariners a bit too, because they're the

1607
01:43:52.720 --> 01:43:56.760
<v Speaker 13>local team. They're making money, but they don't want to

1608
01:43:56.840 --> 01:44:00.479
<v Speaker 13>put the money out. But they get really close, all right,

1609
01:44:00.479 --> 01:44:02.119
<v Speaker 13>but Ed, let me ask you, it really close.

1610
01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1611
01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:07.079
<v Speaker 13>But they get a good pitching staff like this year. Yeah,

1612
01:44:07.279 --> 01:44:09.680
<v Speaker 13>but they didn't put out The Dodgers have ta Oscar

1613
01:44:09.760 --> 01:44:12.039
<v Speaker 13>Hernandez who had a great year. He was a Mariner

1614
01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:15.239
<v Speaker 13>last year. Okay, but Mariners didn't want to pay him.

1615
01:44:15.359 --> 01:44:17.640
<v Speaker 7>Okay, Ed, But here's the thing. Here's the thing about

1616
01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:19.920
<v Speaker 7>them not wanting to pay and everything else. There is

1617
01:44:20.079 --> 01:44:25.359
<v Speaker 7>also a very simple, simple barrier here. You cannot make

1618
01:44:25.600 --> 01:44:26.399
<v Speaker 7>the same money.

1619
01:44:26.520 --> 01:44:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1620
01:44:26.920 --> 01:44:29.159
<v Speaker 7>Los Angeles, New York. These are big cities. There are

1621
01:44:29.319 --> 01:44:31.960
<v Speaker 7>very rich people there. You charged two hundred dollars for

1622
01:44:32.039 --> 01:44:34.680
<v Speaker 7>a decent ticket, somebody's gonna buy that ticket.

1623
01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1624
01:44:36.119 --> 01:44:37.840
<v Speaker 7>They were trying to put a team in New Jersey

1625
01:44:38.359 --> 01:44:41.199
<v Speaker 7>about twenty five years ago or so, and I was

1626
01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:44.279
<v Speaker 7>involved in these discussions. They were talking about putting two

1627
01:44:44.359 --> 01:44:47.319
<v Speaker 7>different professional teams into New Jersey and both of them

1628
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:51.520
<v Speaker 7>were turned away. Okay, and why the football team might

1629
01:44:51.560 --> 01:44:54.399
<v Speaker 7>have been able to make enough money, but because you know,

1630
01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:56.800
<v Speaker 7>Giant Stadium was in New Jersey and everything else.

1631
01:44:56.840 --> 01:44:58.760
<v Speaker 2>It was like, look, that might work, but that's once

1632
01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:01.000
<v Speaker 2>a week. When you you got one hundred and sixty

1633
01:45:01.039 --> 01:45:01.880
<v Speaker 2>two game season.

1634
01:45:02.800 --> 01:45:05.319
<v Speaker 7>The locals in New Jersey were not going to be

1635
01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:07.479
<v Speaker 7>able to support a team the way New York does.

1636
01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:10.520
<v Speaker 7>That was the direct comparison. It was like, yeah, but

1637
01:45:10.600 --> 01:45:12.560
<v Speaker 7>Philadelphia is not a rich city. Yeah, but where are

1638
01:45:12.600 --> 01:45:13.439
<v Speaker 7>you going to put this team?

1639
01:45:13.520 --> 01:45:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Newark?

1640
01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:18.119
<v Speaker 7>You know what I'm saying, It's too close and anybody's

1641
01:45:18.159 --> 01:45:19.640
<v Speaker 7>going to go do I want to watch this new,

1642
01:45:19.680 --> 01:45:23.279
<v Speaker 7>brand new thing that you know has nobody's on it,

1643
01:45:23.279 --> 01:45:25.079
<v Speaker 7>a bunch of broken down old guys and brand new

1644
01:45:25.159 --> 01:45:27.560
<v Speaker 7>rookies because that's what they're going to start with. So

1645
01:45:27.720 --> 01:45:31.079
<v Speaker 7>I want to go even pay for that ticket in Newark? No,

1646
01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:33.159
<v Speaker 7>nobody wants to do that. Where are you gonna put it?

1647
01:45:33.159 --> 01:45:36.319
<v Speaker 7>Atlantic City? Maybe right, because at least there's an airport

1648
01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:39.279
<v Speaker 7>nearby and all this, But these are the two places, right,

1649
01:45:39.319 --> 01:45:41.720
<v Speaker 7>You got Newark in Atlantic City, and Jersey's not that

1650
01:45:41.760 --> 01:45:45.199
<v Speaker 7>big a place, but they seriously considered putting a baseball

1651
01:45:45.279 --> 01:45:48.000
<v Speaker 7>team in there, and then it was decided based on

1652
01:45:48.159 --> 01:45:51.119
<v Speaker 7>the fact that you need to raise a certain amount

1653
01:45:51.119 --> 01:45:55.840
<v Speaker 7>of revenue to maintain even the league's smallest budget when

1654
01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:59.720
<v Speaker 7>it comes to players and everything else, that it was

1655
01:45:59.840 --> 01:46:03.359
<v Speaker 7>like not financially tenable. Like if somebody wanted to buy

1656
01:46:03.439 --> 01:46:06.520
<v Speaker 7>this as like a you know, as like a vanity thing,

1657
01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:09.199
<v Speaker 7>like you know how Trump owned the New Jersey Generals

1658
01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:12.079
<v Speaker 7>back when we had the USFL, that kind of thing

1659
01:46:12.319 --> 01:46:13.159
<v Speaker 7>that was for vanity.

1660
01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:16.279
<v Speaker 2>That wasn't because he was serious about football, you know

1661
01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:16.720
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

1662
01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:19.359
<v Speaker 7>So the thing is, if somebody wants this as a

1663
01:46:19.439 --> 01:46:21.079
<v Speaker 7>vanity thing, I always wanted to own a team, but

1664
01:46:21.119 --> 01:46:23.399
<v Speaker 7>I can't buy one of these you know, billion dollar teams,

1665
01:46:24.119 --> 01:46:25.960
<v Speaker 7>right because I'm not the guy who owes the Dallas

1666
01:46:26.039 --> 01:46:28.960
<v Speaker 7>Mavericks or I'm not one of these you know billionaires

1667
01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:32.359
<v Speaker 7>from the past. I mean, Steinbrenner was a shipping magnet, right.

1668
01:46:33.439 --> 01:46:35.640
<v Speaker 7>He made his money from big ships and stuff. He

1669
01:46:35.760 --> 01:46:39.359
<v Speaker 7>was building ships. He had a bank to be able

1670
01:46:39.399 --> 01:46:42.439
<v Speaker 7>to start with to put into it. He could put

1671
01:46:42.479 --> 01:46:44.600
<v Speaker 7>big money in and he could pull big money out.

1672
01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:48.800
<v Speaker 7>But like say they put a team in New Jersey, Realistically,

1673
01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:51.359
<v Speaker 7>with the competition the way it is and how much

1674
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:53.960
<v Speaker 7>you can charge people, locals in New Jersey don't make

1675
01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:57.479
<v Speaker 7>as much. Even the commuters going to New York, they

1676
01:46:57.640 --> 01:47:01.000
<v Speaker 7>don't have as much. So you try and put that there.

1677
01:47:01.159 --> 01:47:05.680
<v Speaker 7>You try and put it in Oregon, or where's another

1678
01:47:05.720 --> 01:47:07.720
<v Speaker 7>good one. If we go down a little bit North Carolina,

1679
01:47:07.800 --> 01:47:11.439
<v Speaker 7>say you put in a Carolina baseball team, the money

1680
01:47:11.560 --> 01:47:15.399
<v Speaker 7>is not going to be there. So you can't field

1681
01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:19.119
<v Speaker 7>a two hundred million dollar roster of players and have

1682
01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:22.680
<v Speaker 7>a stadium, even with the tax breaks which they give

1683
01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:25.159
<v Speaker 7>to these guys, which is another funny thing where it's

1684
01:47:25.239 --> 01:47:27.039
<v Speaker 7>like the city or the state lines up paying for

1685
01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:30.600
<v Speaker 7>the stadiums and all this stuff. In Seattle, they got

1686
01:47:30.680 --> 01:47:34.560
<v Speaker 7>homeless guys. The Mariners, they got homeless guys selling their beer.

1687
01:47:34.840 --> 01:47:39.680
<v Speaker 7>You know this right, No, literally, there are homeless guys

1688
01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:42.279
<v Speaker 7>that line up to go sell beer and stuff and

1689
01:47:42.359 --> 01:47:44.800
<v Speaker 7>go walk around the stadium and make a couple of dollars.

1690
01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:47.199
<v Speaker 7>They don't even have steady employees doing stuff like that

1691
01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:50.399
<v Speaker 7>at the stadium because the Mariners don't have the budget

1692
01:47:50.479 --> 01:47:50.680
<v Speaker 7>for it.

1693
01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, like how the.

1694
01:47:58.239 --> 01:48:02.560
<v Speaker 11>Packers pay their uh fans to shovel the snow.

1695
01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:05.119
<v Speaker 2>There you go. How much money is there in Green Bay?

1696
01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know Green Bay is a staple of

1697
01:48:07.039 --> 01:48:10.760
<v Speaker 2>the NFL and everything, but realistically, can they compete financially

1698
01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:11.800
<v Speaker 2>with the New York Giants.

1699
01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:14.960
<v Speaker 7>The only way they can is because they turn around

1700
01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:17.279
<v Speaker 7>with his revenue sharing and they try and even it out.

1701
01:48:17.640 --> 01:48:20.159
<v Speaker 7>But Major League Baseball, no matter what lip service they've

1702
01:48:20.159 --> 01:48:22.760
<v Speaker 7>ever delivered to that, if you are not in a

1703
01:48:22.880 --> 01:48:26.800
<v Speaker 7>moneyed city, you are not likely to be able to survive.

1704
01:48:26.960 --> 01:48:30.079
<v Speaker 7>This is why, you know, after a while California, because

1705
01:48:30.359 --> 01:48:32.479
<v Speaker 7>why does California have so many teams? Because it's the

1706
01:48:32.520 --> 01:48:35.439
<v Speaker 7>fourth largest economy on the planet. That's the only reason

1707
01:48:35.479 --> 01:48:36.520
<v Speaker 7>why they can support it.

1708
01:48:37.680 --> 01:48:43.479
<v Speaker 2>Right, I can understand that now they're way down.

1709
01:48:43.520 --> 01:48:47.640
<v Speaker 7>But look, but now the Oakland areas are going to leave,

1710
01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:51.119
<v Speaker 7>right So the Oakland A's leaving and a few other

1711
01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:53.439
<v Speaker 7>teams have threatened to leave over the past few years.

1712
01:48:53.720 --> 01:48:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, what leason reason for that?

1713
01:48:58.039 --> 01:49:02.119
<v Speaker 7>Because the money in Oakland is not That's why you know,

1714
01:49:02.279 --> 01:49:04.319
<v Speaker 7>they say, give us a new stadium, and they're like,

1715
01:49:04.439 --> 01:49:06.640
<v Speaker 7>we got people crapping on the streets, we got it.

1716
01:49:06.640 --> 01:49:08.079
<v Speaker 7>We got to fix our streets before we give you

1717
01:49:08.159 --> 01:49:10.760
<v Speaker 7>a new stadium. And they want a stadium tax free.

1718
01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:13.840
<v Speaker 7>So somebody like Las Vegas or whatever offered the age.

1719
01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:15.880
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if they're going, but I do know

1720
01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:17.800
<v Speaker 7>the offer was there where it's like, look, we'll build

1721
01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:20.960
<v Speaker 7>you a baseball stadium in Las Vegas, no problem, come

1722
01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:22.800
<v Speaker 7>on in. We'll give you the tax breaks. That's a

1723
01:49:22.920 --> 01:49:27.239
<v Speaker 7>huge thing. Oh yes, that's like Oakland.

1724
01:49:27.600 --> 01:49:29.399
<v Speaker 3>Oakland went back and they went to.

1725
01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:30.479
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

1726
01:49:30.640 --> 01:49:33.319
<v Speaker 7>So they're gonna turn around to use so they're gonna

1727
01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:36.800
<v Speaker 7>use revenue from the casinos to support the fact that

1728
01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:39.119
<v Speaker 7>they're not going to charge the baseball team. They'll give

1729
01:49:39.159 --> 01:49:42.399
<v Speaker 7>them a decade tax three over there, and so that

1730
01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:44.880
<v Speaker 7>tax break right there will pay for half of their roster,

1731
01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:46.800
<v Speaker 7>whether fans show up or not.

1732
01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:51.119
<v Speaker 3>You see, yeah, I see what you're saying, sotand it now.

1733
01:49:51.359 --> 01:49:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So my point is, okay, yeah you can get like okay,

1734
01:49:54.039 --> 01:49:57.560
<v Speaker 2>you got like stay in Texas. Texas, huge state, big contributor.

1735
01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>They've been growing, their economy is doing well. But can

1736
01:50:00.359 --> 01:50:05.840
<v Speaker 2>they support more than the Astros right and the Rangers.

1737
01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I'd really like to see a Marfa team emerge. What

1738
01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:13.960
<v Speaker 2>do you mean marka team.

1739
01:50:14.239 --> 01:50:17.279
<v Speaker 1>It's a tiny little it's a tiny little place in

1740
01:50:17.640 --> 01:50:18.319
<v Speaker 1>West Texas.

1741
01:50:18.399 --> 01:50:21.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a tiny little desert spot. A team emerged there.

1742
01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh you mean in like Marfa, Texas? Or Okay, yeah

1743
01:50:26.239 --> 01:50:29.119
<v Speaker 2>you said Texas. I thought I mentioned some remote Yeah.

1744
01:50:29.159 --> 01:50:31.680
<v Speaker 2>But if you wanted to put the San Antonio Stars

1745
01:50:31.760 --> 01:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>baseball team into existence right now, you couldn't do it.

1746
01:50:34.479 --> 01:50:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm just telling you, like that city will not support

1747
01:50:37.279 --> 01:50:39.039
<v Speaker 2>a team. It just can't.

1748
01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:42.359
<v Speaker 7>How about this, You know, Alabama probably would love to

1749
01:50:42.439 --> 01:50:46.319
<v Speaker 7>have a baseball team, but the state has broke. Kentucky

1750
01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:48.079
<v Speaker 7>another place. Who's in Kentucky?

1751
01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Anybody? No?

1752
01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:52.760
<v Speaker 7>You know you got Missouri does better than any of

1753
01:50:52.840 --> 01:50:55.199
<v Speaker 7>these places. They got two They got two teams, one

1754
01:50:55.279 --> 01:50:58.760
<v Speaker 7>in each league. Right still, the Cardinals and the Royals

1755
01:50:59.279 --> 01:51:05.399
<v Speaker 7>are both in Missourhurry right. Yes, you got Pennsylvania, which

1756
01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:07.560
<v Speaker 7>is a mixed bag, but on the two ends of

1757
01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:10.720
<v Speaker 7>Pennsylvania where there's money. See, they got Philly in the

1758
01:51:10.760 --> 01:51:14.039
<v Speaker 7>east and they got Pittsburgh in the west. People don't

1759
01:51:14.079 --> 01:51:17.680
<v Speaker 7>realize how big a state Pennsylvania is, so there is

1760
01:51:17.760 --> 01:51:19.880
<v Speaker 7>a huge divide there the middle of that state, though,

1761
01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:21.399
<v Speaker 7>is there any money in the middle of that state.

1762
01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we don't know what the Amish really have.

1763
01:51:23.840 --> 01:51:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I could attest to you that there are not there

1764
01:51:26.840 --> 01:51:27.840
<v Speaker 2>is not money there.

1765
01:51:28.479 --> 01:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>You do not see a Mercedes Benz driving anywhere in

1766
01:51:32.119 --> 01:51:35.880
<v Speaker 1>central Pennsylvania. Maybe in Harrisburg, but not many of them, right,

1767
01:51:36.079 --> 01:51:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

1768
01:51:36.399 --> 01:51:40.119
<v Speaker 7>I'm super surprised that the Pittsburgh Pirates have not been

1769
01:51:40.199 --> 01:51:42.479
<v Speaker 7>picked up by another place.

1770
01:51:42.840 --> 01:51:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, like like Florida. I think Florida should have the

1771
01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:48.239
<v Speaker 2>money to be able to support more than one team.

1772
01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:53.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, they could go to Pittsburgh. That would

1773
01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:56.560
<v Speaker 3>knock out those morlins to get them. So one's out

1774
01:51:56.600 --> 01:51:57.039
<v Speaker 3>of the well.

1775
01:51:57.039 --> 01:51:59.560
<v Speaker 7>If you put the Florida Pirates, you know what I'm saying,

1776
01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:02.079
<v Speaker 7>If you put whatever you wanted to name him, I

1777
01:52:02.119 --> 01:52:03.840
<v Speaker 7>don't know, put them near Disney over there or something

1778
01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:07.800
<v Speaker 7>right where, you know what I mean? Orlando, Orlando, the

1779
01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:11.079
<v Speaker 7>Orlando Pirates plant.

1780
01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Put the plant?

1781
01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now could they? Would you say in Orlando? Now

1782
01:52:17.680 --> 01:52:22.439
<v Speaker 3>do you think if they decided that's for example, say okay,

1783
01:52:23.079 --> 01:52:30.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to Orlando pitch I mean, uh, the Pirates say,

1784
01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:34.119
<v Speaker 3>and would you think they'd be able to make a feel.

1785
01:52:34.199 --> 01:52:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, see It depends on what kind of a deal

1786
01:52:36.439 --> 01:52:38.439
<v Speaker 2>de Santa Stan wants to make for him. Right.

1787
01:52:38.479 --> 01:52:41.600
<v Speaker 7>You know, there's a the Santas State and people literally

1788
01:52:41.800 --> 01:52:43.920
<v Speaker 7>live there called the Santa Stan by the way, like

1789
01:52:44.159 --> 01:52:47.039
<v Speaker 7>like he's running his own republic over there. But because

1790
01:52:47.079 --> 01:52:49.199
<v Speaker 7>he's if he wasn't at war with Disney, I'll tell

1791
01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:50.159
<v Speaker 7>you it'll be an easy thing.

1792
01:52:50.720 --> 01:52:53.119
<v Speaker 2>All you'd have to do is you kind of tweak.

1793
01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:55.319
<v Speaker 7>The Pirates logos and stuff a little bit, and you

1794
01:52:55.399 --> 01:52:57.319
<v Speaker 7>make them like, you know, as if they're the Orlando

1795
01:52:57.479 --> 01:53:01.199
<v Speaker 7>Pirates of the Caribbean, right, and it's like that ship.

1796
01:53:01.520 --> 01:53:03.479
<v Speaker 3>That's how that I watch you couple.

1797
01:53:03.319 --> 01:53:04.479
<v Speaker 2>Them up with Disney.

1798
01:53:05.359 --> 01:53:08.000
<v Speaker 7>Right, so you have Mickey Mouse at the ballpark and

1799
01:53:08.119 --> 01:53:10.600
<v Speaker 7>you get like a special brand new just because of

1800
01:53:10.640 --> 01:53:12.920
<v Speaker 7>the new city. You get a new pirate that looks

1801
01:53:12.920 --> 01:53:14.880
<v Speaker 7>a lot more like Johnny Depp than that that that

1802
01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:18.239
<v Speaker 7>pirate they got, right, and then sometimes you have them

1803
01:53:18.239 --> 01:53:20.680
<v Speaker 7>in the classic unitport. I'm telling you it's instant marketing

1804
01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:23.000
<v Speaker 7>success the Pirates.

1805
01:53:23.039 --> 01:53:29.920
<v Speaker 2>That would be supply that does make Johnny token owner. Yeah,

1806
01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:32.720
<v Speaker 2>make Johnny Depp a token owner, right, give them one

1807
01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:33.560
<v Speaker 2>percent of the team.

1808
01:53:33.600 --> 01:53:36.640
<v Speaker 3>You know he's got money. Well, give me don't have money.

1809
01:53:36.680 --> 01:53:37.920
<v Speaker 3>He's been doing all these shows.

1810
01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:39.520
<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm not telling it saying give it to him

1811
01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:42.239
<v Speaker 7>for free. What I'm saying, let him buy in for

1812
01:53:42.319 --> 01:53:44.680
<v Speaker 7>one percent of the team, so he's got a little

1813
01:53:44.680 --> 01:53:48.319
<v Speaker 7>bit of a stake, right, And then you know, Johnny

1814
01:53:48.359 --> 01:53:50.239
<v Speaker 7>Depp is part owner of the Even if you're on

1815
01:53:50.319 --> 01:53:52.119
<v Speaker 7>two percent of the team, he'd be the only guy

1816
01:53:52.119 --> 01:53:55.880
<v Speaker 7>they would talk about. So I'm telling you it's all built,

1817
01:53:56.000 --> 01:53:58.000
<v Speaker 7>it's all pap right in. You can move the Pirates

1818
01:53:58.119 --> 01:53:59.880
<v Speaker 7>to Florida tomorrow and.

1819
01:54:00.039 --> 01:54:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Even put them in a hurricane disaster area.

1820
01:54:02.439 --> 01:54:06.000
<v Speaker 7>In six months, the whole place would be revived, no problem.

1821
01:54:06.239 --> 01:54:08.520
<v Speaker 7>But if you tried to move the Pirates to New Jersey,

1822
01:54:08.840 --> 01:54:09.199
<v Speaker 7>it's over.

1823
01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:12.439
<v Speaker 2>There's no New Jersey that.

1824
01:54:12.560 --> 01:54:15.800
<v Speaker 11>The chief can make it because of the money situation

1825
01:54:16.840 --> 01:54:20.720
<v Speaker 11>and the proximity to the city. Yeah, but what about

1826
01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:25.239
<v Speaker 11>like the Barter District, like Elizabeth Town or wherever it is.

1827
01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:26.560
<v Speaker 11>There's a lot of money that way.

1828
01:54:26.920 --> 01:54:29.600
<v Speaker 2>No, it's horrible. You don't understand. I'm telling you. People

1829
01:54:29.680 --> 01:54:32.840
<v Speaker 2>do not do stuff locally. They don't.

1830
01:54:33.039 --> 01:54:35.960
<v Speaker 7>Even this was one of the challenges with the music

1831
01:54:36.039 --> 01:54:37.960
<v Speaker 7>scenes that have come and gone with New Jersey. Where

1832
01:54:37.960 --> 01:54:40.119
<v Speaker 7>it's like we have these temporary music scenes pop up,

1833
01:54:40.720 --> 01:54:42.399
<v Speaker 7>and Asbury Park was one of them.

1834
01:54:42.640 --> 01:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>But it took them thirty years.

1835
01:54:45.159 --> 01:54:50.079
<v Speaker 7>To revitalize Asbury Park. They couldn't get construction or the

1836
01:54:50.199 --> 01:54:55.199
<v Speaker 7>gentrification off the ground for over thirty years in Asbury Park. Okay,

1837
01:54:55.680 --> 01:54:58.079
<v Speaker 7>I'm telling you, Jersey is not the place to go.

1838
01:54:58.199 --> 01:55:00.520
<v Speaker 7>It's a sinkhole for money. It's not a place where

1839
01:55:00.520 --> 01:55:03.600
<v Speaker 7>you make money. And even in that areas you're talking

1840
01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:07.159
<v Speaker 7>about during the time when it was like a massive

1841
01:55:07.199 --> 01:55:09.199
<v Speaker 7>you know, chemical they were putting out, you know, tons

1842
01:55:09.239 --> 01:55:11.680
<v Speaker 7>and tons of chemical crap, and you know, the e

1843
01:55:11.760 --> 01:55:15.600
<v Speaker 7>PA wasn't regulating them to death pre Nixon, pre Nixon,

1844
01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:18.800
<v Speaker 7>that part of Jersey plenty of money there. You know,

1845
01:55:18.960 --> 01:55:23.319
<v Speaker 7>you could add the New Jersey petro Chemicals, name it right, whatever,

1846
01:55:23.359 --> 01:55:25.119
<v Speaker 7>it wouldn't have mattered, the New Jersey.

1847
01:55:25.119 --> 01:55:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Landfills, it would have been great. Whatever, it would have

1848
01:55:27.840 --> 01:55:31.159
<v Speaker 2>been hysterical, it would have been a joke, or even

1849
01:55:31.239 --> 01:55:36.079
<v Speaker 2>the best thing would have been or more New Jersey Devils.

1850
01:55:36.199 --> 01:55:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Continue on with the legendary devils. Oh yeah, the.

1851
01:55:42.239 --> 01:55:44.520
<v Speaker 7>Doubles, you know, and then you could the hockey. You

1852
01:55:44.640 --> 01:55:46.520
<v Speaker 7>couple it up with the hockey. Now all of a sudden,

1853
01:55:46.560 --> 01:55:48.600
<v Speaker 7>the jersey is so bad.

1854
01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:51.279
<v Speaker 2>It's got two devils. Baby, you know what I'm saying.

1855
01:55:51.319 --> 01:55:54.159
<v Speaker 2>And you just do it like that. And uh, there's

1856
01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:55.760
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of markets.

1857
01:55:56.119 --> 01:56:01.039
<v Speaker 11>The Texas to have the Colts and the forty five.

1858
01:56:02.319 --> 01:56:03.279
<v Speaker 13>You know what there was?

1859
01:56:04.279 --> 01:56:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Now, wait a minute, there was a Cults. There was

1860
01:56:06.319 --> 01:56:14.079
<v Speaker 2>a baseball Coults team too. Did you know that? Yeah,

1861
01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:15.560
<v Speaker 2>let me let me take a look at the history.

1862
01:56:15.680 --> 01:56:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they existed long, but let me still

1863
01:56:17.800 --> 01:56:19.840
<v Speaker 2>what I think. I think we're at the end of

1864
01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:20.800
<v Speaker 2>the show here, every.

1865
01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, we are, but the show. We'll have a good

1866
01:56:22.800 --> 01:56:24.840
<v Speaker 3>conversation at the end of the show.

1867
01:56:24.880 --> 01:56:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay before you exactly listen, No, we don't have a yet, Aaron.

1868
01:56:29.159 --> 01:56:32.119
<v Speaker 7>Uncle calm down, everybody calm down. You got five minutes

1869
01:56:32.159 --> 01:56:36.680
<v Speaker 7>over because Uncle started a little late. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

1870
01:56:36.760 --> 01:56:38.600
<v Speaker 7>so you got five extra minutes, so you got your

1871
01:56:38.640 --> 01:56:39.920
<v Speaker 7>time for your shoutouts and everything.

1872
01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about it. And I'll shut up after I.

1873
01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:44.000
<v Speaker 7>Find out the thing about the cold forty five Okay,

1874
01:56:45.880 --> 01:56:47.119
<v Speaker 7>goes downstate the.

1875
01:56:49.920 --> 01:56:50.159
<v Speaker 5>Time.

1876
01:56:52.199 --> 01:56:54.279
<v Speaker 11>It's gonna turn them in. Now I'm gonna have to

1877
01:56:54.359 --> 01:56:57.680
<v Speaker 11>call back in because it kicks me off or something.

1878
01:56:58.720 --> 01:56:59.800
<v Speaker 2>All Right, you ready for this one.

1879
01:57:00.600 --> 01:57:04.439
<v Speaker 7>In nineteen sixty two, the Houston Colt forty five's were

1880
01:57:04.479 --> 01:57:10.199
<v Speaker 7>an expansion team in the American Major League Baseball's National League. Okay,

1881
01:57:10.279 --> 01:57:14.520
<v Speaker 7>so they were a National League expansion team in nineteen

1882
01:57:14.640 --> 01:57:15.199
<v Speaker 7>sixty two.

1883
01:57:17.239 --> 01:57:19.920
<v Speaker 3>How come we haven't noticed these teams?

1884
01:57:20.560 --> 01:57:23.800
<v Speaker 7>As what was said was we're handing them forgotten because

1885
01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:25.279
<v Speaker 7>they didn't exist very long.

1886
01:57:26.239 --> 01:57:29.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. So I'm looking at this page here

1887
01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:31.479
<v Speaker 2>and it's not telling me how long they existed.

1888
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<v Speaker 7>But they were an expansion team in sixty two, which

1889
01:57:34.199 --> 01:57:35.520
<v Speaker 7>is funny because they come.

1890
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<v Speaker 2>In the same year the Mets.

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01:57:36.479 --> 01:57:40.399
<v Speaker 3>Doo ooh see there was two.

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01:57:40.760 --> 01:57:43.720
<v Speaker 7>They always have the two expansion teams right every time.

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<v Speaker 7>So they came in with the Mets in sixty to

1894
01:57:47.119 --> 01:57:49.319
<v Speaker 7>sixty two. The Mets lost what one hundred and twenty

1895
01:57:49.399 --> 01:57:52.279
<v Speaker 7>five games or something ridiculous, like almost every game they

1896
01:57:52.359 --> 01:57:53.119
<v Speaker 7>pretty much lost.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, their catcher's name was Choo Choo Coleman, I

1898
01:57:56.199 --> 01:58:00.840
<v Speaker 2>kid you not ch and the guy who.

1899
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<v Speaker 7>Became a famous uh San Francisco Giants manager Roger Craig

1900
01:58:05.039 --> 01:58:06.840
<v Speaker 7>played third base for them. He was probably one of

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01:58:06.920 --> 01:58:10.479
<v Speaker 7>their best players in sixty two, and seven years later

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01:58:10.680 --> 01:58:11.640
<v Speaker 7>they won the World Series.

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<v Speaker 3>He played ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Roger Craig played third base for the nineteen sixty two Mets.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely did.

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<v Speaker 11>I'll be damn yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to have a yeah, no, you look, you

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<v Speaker 2>can check with Eddie next time we talked to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you back me up on that.

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<v Speaker 7>But it just off the top of my head, these

1911
01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:33.760
<v Speaker 7>things I know about the initial Mets. It's so funny

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<v Speaker 7>because they used to half celebrate the inauguration because it

1913
01:58:36.840 --> 01:58:39.680
<v Speaker 7>was so embarrassing. Was the worst start of any expansion

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<v Speaker 7>team in history.

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<v Speaker 2>The JFK guy.

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<v Speaker 11>Remember Roger Craig, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>But you remember Roger Craig, the San Francisco Giant manager

1918
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<v Speaker 7>I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm proud of amusing that they had the same name. No,

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<v Speaker 11>me too, and Roger.

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<v Speaker 7>It is amusing, But again it's two common names. You

1923
01:59:02.479 --> 01:59:04.079
<v Speaker 7>got to figure they got to come together here and

1924
01:59:04.119 --> 01:59:07.520
<v Speaker 7>there in history. Right, Roger not exactly an uncommon My

1925
01:59:07.920 --> 01:59:10.239
<v Speaker 7>one grandfather's name was Roger, one of the Irish ones

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01:59:11.039 --> 01:59:14.159
<v Speaker 7>uh and uh and and Craig Craig is not exactly

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01:59:14.640 --> 01:59:16.920
<v Speaker 7>an uncommon first or last name, right.

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<v Speaker 11>So you know, it's just just that is like once

1929
01:59:22.880 --> 01:59:25.840
<v Speaker 11>I was overseas and I swear these British people were

1930
01:59:25.920 --> 01:59:30.920
<v Speaker 11>trying to test my military discipline with these names. Here

1931
01:59:31.039 --> 01:59:33.119
<v Speaker 11>comes Sir Michael Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, a lot of that's.

1933
01:59:35.439 --> 01:59:40.319
<v Speaker 7>Done on purpose, a lot of that's done on You

1934
01:59:40.399 --> 01:59:42.279
<v Speaker 7>got to feel bad for somebody though, that gets hung

1935
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<v Speaker 7>with a name, like somebody thought it was a clever

1936
01:59:44.239 --> 01:59:46.640
<v Speaker 7>idea when they were born. Like I'll tell you the truth,

1937
01:59:46.760 --> 01:59:49.279
<v Speaker 7>I knew probably about I don't know, nine or ten

1938
01:59:49.359 --> 01:59:53.119
<v Speaker 7>kids over the years that were named Michael Jackson. You know,

1939
01:59:53.279 --> 01:59:55.840
<v Speaker 7>like their last name was Jackson. And because the family

1940
01:59:56.039 --> 01:59:58.479
<v Speaker 7>like Michael, like even a little bit older than me,

1941
01:59:58.600 --> 02:00:02.359
<v Speaker 7>so like the kids worn in nineteen seventy And why

1942
02:00:02.439 --> 02:00:04.319
<v Speaker 7>did they name him that? Because Michael Jackson was a

1943
02:00:04.359 --> 02:00:07.239
<v Speaker 7>little kid on TV. Right, he was already famous as

1944
02:00:07.239 --> 02:00:09.359
<v Speaker 7>a little kid. So they're like thinking, I'll give him

1945
02:00:09.399 --> 02:00:10.680
<v Speaker 7>a star's name, you know what I mean?

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02:00:11.479 --> 02:00:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you know?

1947
02:00:12.680 --> 02:00:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Did you know something about Michael Jackson?

1948
02:00:15.000 --> 02:00:17.039
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of things about Michael Jackson. Can't

1949
02:00:17.159 --> 02:00:17.800
<v Speaker 2>know anything.

1950
02:00:18.359 --> 02:00:20.600
<v Speaker 3>He was born the same time as me.

1951
02:00:21.600 --> 02:00:23.600
<v Speaker 7>Michael Jackson, we were worn the same time as you

1952
02:00:24.399 --> 02:00:26.239
<v Speaker 7>fifty eight in nineteen fifty eight.

1953
02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I found that out when he passed.

1954
02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:32.079
<v Speaker 2>I was not aware of that. I never knew that.

1955
02:00:32.279 --> 02:00:34.399
<v Speaker 7>I knew that he was a little kid, you know,

1956
02:00:36.119 --> 02:00:39.319
<v Speaker 7>around the time that like I was a little kid,

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02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:41.920
<v Speaker 7>and I was watching reruns of TV shows that he

1958
02:00:42.079 --> 02:00:44.800
<v Speaker 7>was on as a little kid from like seven eight,

1959
02:00:44.880 --> 02:00:45.720
<v Speaker 7>ten years earlier.

1960
02:00:46.159 --> 02:00:49.239
<v Speaker 2>That's all I knew. And they had the Jackson five cartoons.

1961
02:00:49.840 --> 02:00:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Actually, I didn't know that until so when he passed,

1962
02:00:54.359 --> 02:00:56.840
<v Speaker 3>they showed him this is when who was born?

1963
02:00:57.720 --> 02:00:58.640
<v Speaker 2>This when he died.

1964
02:00:59.279 --> 02:01:02.520
<v Speaker 3>So they show it that to say when he was bulling,

1965
02:01:02.720 --> 02:01:05.600
<v Speaker 3>and I looked at that, said, yeah.

1966
02:01:06.199 --> 02:01:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I was born August August twenty nine, nineteen fifty eight. Apparently. Yeah,

1967
02:01:10.439 --> 02:01:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that.

1968
02:01:12.520 --> 02:01:13.079
<v Speaker 3>Fifty eight.

1969
02:01:13.680 --> 02:01:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, uncle, do we want to shot outs? Because

1970
02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:17.159
<v Speaker 2>they're again about that time?

1971
02:01:18.079 --> 02:01:21.199
<v Speaker 3>All right, Jimmy, who's uh is the head on the show?

1972
02:01:21.560 --> 02:01:21.840
<v Speaker 10>It on?

1973
02:01:21.920 --> 02:01:26.520
<v Speaker 2>There? No, No, Ed is gone. It is gone. Okay.

1974
02:01:27.119 --> 02:01:30.000
<v Speaker 7>But here's the thing about those uh, here's the thing

1975
02:01:30.039 --> 02:01:33.600
<v Speaker 7>about those cold forty five's just really quick. The reason

1976
02:01:33.640 --> 02:01:36.000
<v Speaker 7>why they didn't exist too long is because they became

1977
02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:38.880
<v Speaker 7>guess who the Houston Astros.

1978
02:01:40.119 --> 02:01:45.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, Oh, so they came pumed up being the Astros.

1979
02:01:45.479 --> 02:01:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh, uncle, forty five boys. Forty five boy. The standard

1980
02:01:50.239 --> 02:01:53.159
<v Speaker 2>is almost well.

1981
02:01:53.199 --> 02:01:55.319
<v Speaker 7>And the reason why, if you remember, the reason why

1982
02:01:55.359 --> 02:01:58.680
<v Speaker 7>they named the Houston Astros the Houston Astros is it

1983
02:01:58.800 --> 02:02:00.760
<v Speaker 7>was a big deal because as they came up with

1984
02:02:00.880 --> 02:02:05.479
<v Speaker 7>the Astro Dome, and it was the association with NASA

1985
02:02:05.760 --> 02:02:06.800
<v Speaker 7>and Lendon.

1986
02:02:06.560 --> 02:02:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Vaines, Johnson and uh and and all of that.

1987
02:02:09.159 --> 02:02:10.920
<v Speaker 7>Remember a lot of that stuff came out of Texas

1988
02:02:12.119 --> 02:02:14.399
<v Speaker 7>because Johnson put all that stuff there to give out

1989
02:02:14.479 --> 02:02:17.359
<v Speaker 7>jobs to was you know, his political uh, his political

1990
02:02:17.479 --> 02:02:18.520
<v Speaker 7>uh friends.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, I don't know, only as long as

1992
02:02:22.680 --> 02:02:29.000
<v Speaker 3>the cheeties are out of it and the team exactly

1993
02:02:29.199 --> 02:02:35.279
<v Speaker 3>always point point actually when this ended his baseball, all right,

1994
02:02:35.399 --> 02:02:41.600
<v Speaker 3>then let's talk shoutouts here now Jimmy as jim Jimmy's up,

1995
02:02:41.840 --> 02:02:43.159
<v Speaker 3>I guess he's Let's.

1996
02:02:43.000 --> 02:02:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Take a look at who's up on the line first.

1997
02:02:44.680 --> 02:02:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I think Jimmy is still sitting there. Let's see. Uh

1998
02:02:47.640 --> 02:02:50.359
<v Speaker 2>oh wait, you know what, you also got Eddie back

1999
02:02:50.640 --> 02:02:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and we okay, So.

2000
02:02:54.399 --> 02:02:55.119
<v Speaker 3>So here's what you do.

2001
02:02:55.760 --> 02:02:58.199
<v Speaker 7>We can bring on Jimmy and Eddie are both called

2002
02:02:58.239 --> 02:03:03.159
<v Speaker 7>in at the same time. All right, So you want

2003
02:03:03.199 --> 02:03:05.399
<v Speaker 7>to put them both on the same time. Well, put

2004
02:03:05.479 --> 02:03:08.439
<v Speaker 7>them put the shout out the same time.

2005
02:03:08.479 --> 02:03:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Put the shout outs or you want him one at

2006
02:03:09.880 --> 02:03:10.159
<v Speaker 2>a time?

2007
02:03:10.239 --> 02:03:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Which one, o, one a time? Both of those go one?

2008
02:03:14.880 --> 02:03:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Two? Yeah, who's first? Oh, they called in almost exactly

2009
02:03:19.199 --> 02:03:23.119
<v Speaker 2>the same time. So who's first because they called back

2010
02:03:23.199 --> 02:03:28.359
<v Speaker 2>in both of them. Jimmy, Yeah, yeah, Jimmy, jim you

2011
02:03:28.479 --> 02:03:35.000
<v Speaker 2>got it. Jimmy, you're up. You're live and loud. I

2012
02:03:35.079 --> 02:03:42.640
<v Speaker 2>hope Jimmy. Oh, Jimmy should be live and loud. I

2013
02:03:42.720 --> 02:03:45.319
<v Speaker 2>got his phone line depressed here, and uh, he was

2014
02:03:45.319 --> 02:03:47.920
<v Speaker 2>a little upset at my show, but hopefully cheered up

2015
02:03:47.960 --> 02:03:50.520
<v Speaker 2>with your show. All right, I'm gonna put Jimmy back

2016
02:03:50.560 --> 02:03:50.960
<v Speaker 2>on hold.

2017
02:03:51.239 --> 02:03:54.239
<v Speaker 7>And I'm pretty sure I got ed the mailing guy here,

2018
02:03:54.600 --> 02:03:56.840
<v Speaker 7>although he's calling from a different number. I got one

2019
02:03:56.920 --> 02:03:59.279
<v Speaker 7>number that literally comes up and says ed mailing guy

2020
02:03:59.520 --> 02:04:00.399
<v Speaker 7>because I'm Mark.

2021
02:04:00.279 --> 02:04:01.800
<v Speaker 3>The ID and mewing guy.

2022
02:04:01.920 --> 02:04:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Now let's see we are hey, can you hears? What's

2023
02:04:10.319 --> 02:04:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the issue here? All right?

2024
02:04:12.479 --> 02:04:16.279
<v Speaker 3>With the lines? Now shutout?

2025
02:04:17.000 --> 02:04:18.760
<v Speaker 2>We're at the end of the show. We run the show.

2026
02:04:18.840 --> 02:04:20.840
<v Speaker 3>We got no shout outs because we've got a pub

2027
02:04:20.920 --> 02:04:21.560
<v Speaker 3>with the lines.

2028
02:04:21.880 --> 02:04:22.199
<v Speaker 2>How's that?

2029
02:04:22.680 --> 02:04:24.640
<v Speaker 7>Well, it's either that or if you want to take look,

2030
02:04:24.680 --> 02:04:26.279
<v Speaker 7>if you want to take a quick break, I could

2031
02:04:26.359 --> 02:04:27.920
<v Speaker 7>just pull them back in, or do you want to

2032
02:04:28.000 --> 02:04:28.880
<v Speaker 7>just close out the show.

2033
02:04:30.680 --> 02:04:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I think we should just close it out.

2034
02:04:32.159 --> 02:04:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Close out the show for now, and then figgle them

2035
02:04:34.640 --> 02:04:35.520
<v Speaker 3>out for next week.

2036
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<v Speaker 2>You got it.

2037
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<v Speaker 7>Look much appreciation and apologies both to Ed and Jimmy James.

2038
02:04:39.680 --> 02:04:41.319
<v Speaker 7>We had a little issue with the phone line here

2039
02:04:41.479 --> 02:04:44.279
<v Speaker 7>disconnected from our our setup, so I could call you

2040
02:04:44.399 --> 02:04:46.319
<v Speaker 7>back in, but we're at the end of the show.

2041
02:04:46.439 --> 02:04:49.960
<v Speaker 2>So how about shout outs from sidekick and and you.

2042
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<v Speaker 2>So I can't thank you for listening to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody that's watching the livestream, thank you you Twitch Kick,

2044
02:05:02.159 --> 02:05:04.760
<v Speaker 1>had Uncle podcast also Twitter, so thank you for that.

2045
02:05:05.119 --> 02:05:06.079
<v Speaker 2>You got Uncle.

2046
02:05:08.119 --> 02:05:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Shut out to you on the listeners out of the

2047
02:05:11.840 --> 02:05:16.279
<v Speaker 3>United States, whoever they are, Holly, I'm gonna come next

2048
02:05:16.319 --> 02:05:20.119
<v Speaker 3>week and the ones that were on the show.

2049
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I guess that's it Uncle Uncle podcast

2050
02:05:24.359 --> 02:05:26.520
<v Speaker 1>dot com or tell you lady every Saturday night.

2051
02:05:39.399 --> 02:05:39.680
<v Speaker 2>For that.

2052
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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I was just wondering because I was wanting on Wenday.

2053
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<v Speaker 2>Thirty first is out of Thursday.

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<v Speaker 7>But we could arrange sure, I said, I said that

2055
02:05:55.319 --> 02:05:58.199
<v Speaker 7>we could arrange for a Thursday if you guys, If

2056
02:05:58.239 --> 02:05:59.800
<v Speaker 7>you guys have the time on a Thursday, if you

2057
02:05:59.800 --> 02:06:01.680
<v Speaker 7>want want to change your time just for a Halloween

2058
02:06:01.720 --> 02:06:03.760
<v Speaker 7>special and then skip the Friday show, will be fine

2059
02:06:03.800 --> 02:06:04.039
<v Speaker 7>by me.

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<v Speaker 2>They be that's been on your book. Maybe yeah, maybe nobody.

2061
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<v Speaker 2>We'll see to you.

2062
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<v Speaker 3>Guys, that's maybe be possible.

2063
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<v Speaker 2>Did you cut your live stream?

2064
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<v Speaker 7>Aaron?

2065
02:06:16.079 --> 02:06:19.840
<v Speaker 2>What's that? Did you cut your live stream? Yes? Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>cool I cut that out
