Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 3: Let's go from a championship backfield to your morning drive.
Speaker 4: Ham'sday.
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Speaker 1: Live from the.
Speaker 3: Raising Kines Studio. Here's Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Yo, and welcome man to otb here live for Mobile
Alabama as we are here for the twenty twenty six
Panini Senior Bowl, our trip brought to you by First
American Bank and Trust.
Speaker 5: Here on location in Mobile Jake Flynn and Elandra Jordan
and Tata back in the Raising Canes studio. And I know,
even though we're not there, I know it is freezing
cold in Baton Rouge. I believe it's twenty one degrees
on your commute to school and work today. Don't worry,
it's twenty four degrees here in Mobile, Alabama. So we
are in the pain in the elements with you. And
we're really going to be in the elements later on
today when we go to practice, but at least we're
cozy inside here today. There you go off. I'm fine
with it if you want. We're still waking up a
little bit. Yeah, we are here. Mobile is very cold.
Speaker 6: It's not as wendy as it was yesterday yesterday coming
off that off the bay here because that's this hotel
or the conventional side of their ass right on the bay.
Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of yeah, a lot of
ships being built around here, and Martible Cruiser is going.
It was real windy.
Speaker 6: I don't care how tough you are, what part of
the country you're from, that wind will get you.
Speaker 5: Now, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, yes, for sure.
It was hitting us right in the face. There was
a player. There's two players I saw in short yesterday
and they were both from Iowa. They were Hawk guys.
Jenning's dunker. Yeah, and he looks like a Jennings dunker.
Speaker 6: If you get a chance watch him and practice, well,
I'll be your eyes on him. He's probably the most
impressive physically physically impressive.
Speaker 5: Guy saw yesterday. Imagine like a refrigerator with a red mullet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, beautiful red mullet. Too, beautiful red bull. It's like
an auburn mullet. Oh, it's great. Had shorts on, yeah,
not even good shorts either.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't even know how good of a player
he really is. It's great, he's great. Put draft you,
he's great. He looks the part.
Speaker 6: So yeah, but we're here and look this morning, I
know listeners y'all probably were worried about it since yesterday.
We got coffee, coffee before the show started. I even
got two coffee, So yeah, we're going to go. Yesterday
it was a little bit of a a little bit
of train wreck when it came to coffee.
Speaker 5: But we're here. Yeah, we we both got distracted multiple
times from thinking coffee was being set out. They didn't
have it. They have it this morning, but you know,
I brought coffee just in case. Thank you. You have
hotel coffee yep. It looks like just in case. Yep.
So we're okay, we're going to be fully caffeinated and
ready to.
Speaker 6: Go for the next door chev Well, right here we
are on radio row at the Mobile Convention Center, right
next to the entrance. We just saw all the players
filing in. They're headed behind the black curtain here head
of the meetings. And yeah, we talked to some of
the coaches yesterday. They have I think a combined of
nine hours of meeting time this week, which you're like, oh,
there's a lot of meeting time. That is not a
lot of meeting time at all, you think about it.
Speaker 5: I'm trying, I'm trying to think like an a normal week,
I mean twenty minimum.
Speaker 6: Well, you talk, you think about let's just say it's
the meeting start today. They probably started yesterday. Let's just
say Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. That's a little over two
hours a day. That is not a lot of meating,
especially when you're trying to learn a new offense. So
it truly is about the physical skill set of all
these players, the one on one battles. What happens in
practice when you get nine hours of practice or nine
hours of meetings and I think eight hours on the field,
seven or eight hours on the field throughout a week.
It truly is about the practices.
Speaker 5: The game is fun. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 6: As far as an evaluation standpoint, they are going to get.
Their evaluation will start today when practices start, because yeah, okay,
if you can't learn the offense or you might mess up,
you go in. So you should have gone out. You
zig when you should have had quarterback misses, a read
or didn't couldn't remember what the the protection adjustment call was. Whatever.
But like these quarterbacks, these receivers, these linemen, these dbs,
their evaluation starts today and we are fired up. There
will be two practices this afternoon. Of course, hopefully it'll
warm up a little bit. Yesterday would have been a
quarterbacks nightmare with cold weathers. But the wind, the wind
is cutting through.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you were talking about that yesterday, so for our listeners,
because I think it was a mistake. But y'all never
let me throw a half back pass in a game. Sure,
so I'm going to throw it to you. You were
you said yesterday as we were walking back from lunch,
you said, this is a quarterback's worst nightmare.
Speaker 6: Like what, Yeah, well, let me just win win in general, right,
you have to throw the ball a little bit different.
You have to grip the ball a little bit different.
Your pre pass position has to be a little different,
because you don't you want that nose to be pointed
down a little bit when you're throwing in the wind
so you can cut through Normally, if you're a right
handed passer, if you throw a perfect spiral, that it's
going to be nose up and pointed to the right
a little bit. Remember as a kid, when I was
training like the right mechanics, I used to throw at
a throw.
Speaker 5: A basketball goal.
Speaker 6: So you have to you have the orange square, so
the goal was as a right handed quarterback, if you
hit the top right corner of the orange square, it'll
go in every time with a good spiral because it's
like and that creates a nose up pass, creates a
really soft pass to catch.
Speaker 5: Nose down passes.
Speaker 6: If you see like these nose down quarterbacks, it's harder
passes to catch and like most of the times of
the nose down quarterback, your completion percentage will be lower.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the balls always kind of going away from you.
It feels like as a receiver.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there, you got to think like if you have
to like drop your hands to catch the nose down,
if you catching it up, it's just a softer pass
to catch well.
Speaker 5: In the wind, you have to cut a little.
Speaker 6: Bit more through the wind, so you have to try
to get that nose down a little bit, which makes
it a harder pass to throw. Uh, And it's hard
to cut through the wind. It's hard to do that.
It's harder pass to catch as well, but then like
with the cold, the cold air as well, it dries
out your hands, so you're constantly like licking, licking your fingers.
You used to see Drew Brees like in the dome
doing it. But if you have to do it, handwarmers
are essential because they create this little oven if you
if you do it right with the handwarmers. You got
to keep your hand warmers.
Speaker 5: It creates a little sweat right in your hands, little tack.
You have to do that, and it's it's really, of.
Speaker 6: Course to keep your hands warm, but really to keep
them wet.
Speaker 5: A little bit, like you know what I mean. Yeah,
I didn't want to say you don't want to Yeah, okay,
it's okay, that's what you wanted to say. Yeah, that
keeps it oist. That didn't feel like a lot. I mean,
I feel, just just seven things to try to keep
your and in uh the right state of mind.
Speaker 6: I know that, but it's but yeah, it's the Yeah,
so the cold and the wind makes makes all the.
Speaker 5: Difference in the world. Yeah, the wind is yeah. I
wouldn't say. I mean I'm looking I don't know if
you can look at the treado there sir, on that
building right there that that flag is it's whippen pretty good.
Speaker 6: Well, you know it's we're on the Bay Stadium is
not near the baby. I'm looking at the I'm looking
at the tips of these trees.
Speaker 5: We're good. Yeah, and uh, you know the whole reason
we're obviously rooting for our guy, garretts Smyer. So it's
you know, we're paying attention to that.
Speaker 6: I don't know if we're gonna get him on the
show today or what day of the week we'll get
him on. We'll we'll certainly have a gear now spire
on on the show this week. We ran into him
yesterday leaving the convention Center. He seemed like he was
in good spirits, right.
Speaker 5: Or role he's probably and Drew Fabian and the executive
director of the Panini Senior Ball is going to join
us at seven point thirty. That's at least a plan
right now. And I'll ask him his question because like
the buzz around this game even before we got here,
but certainly since we've been here, is no player has
more to gain than Garrett Nesmeyer with a good week
here at Mobile. The quarterback class is not very deep.
He is somebody that certainly has the talent to be
you know, I don't know where the range is, maybe
top ninety pick. He certainly before the year we were
talking about him as a potential top Yeah. Before the year.
Speaker 6: It's like, all right, Fia has a bad year, second
third round, good year, We're we're looking at.
Speaker 5: The number one guy, right, Yes, So like that's there,
And so teams still remember that. They talk about it.
They're like, yeah, okay, the tape, But like we have
to take in the totality of everything. Offensive coordinator got fired,
head coach got fired, Like the offense was not clicking
when the backup came in. Yep, all right, playing out
with an injury, yeah, playing through an injury that everybody
knew about and knows how hard it is to throw
the ball. So and those aren't excuses. Those are just
that's I'm telling you. That's how scouts have told me
they are evaluating Garrett Neusmeyer. And then we go back
to the junior tape. There's a lot of good in there, right,
And in the scout that I was talking to, you said,
every team's gonna think they can get that good out. Yeah,
just like look, I mean, every head coach like when
there's a first round pick that doesn't work out somewhere,
that coach is like, oh, if I had him, like
he'd be a pro bowler, Like I can get that. Well,
not that that means anything anymore, but I can get
that guy to the best of his ability. There's gonna
be coaches that think, oh, I can get junior yearns
Meyer because he was in a bad system. Right, he's
gonna be healthy. I can get that out of him,
and they're gonna take him if he has a good
week here mobile Well, most coachesn't.
Speaker 6: Then if I had former players and if there's anything
you know about former players there pretty cocky, So they
I would.
Speaker 5: Say, we all have an ego, but you have to
have one. Yeah, you have to have a professional football player.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and if you and if there's any question, because
it was everything was pretty mum about that Garrett Nessmyer
injury is like, what exactly was it?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 6: Like I remember in training camp, Oh, the knee got
rolled like got hit or rolled up on.
Speaker 5: He's got a he's got a knee brace on. My god,
he's over maybe uh yeah, a little foreshadow in there.
I don't know any reporting on that one. Uh.
Speaker 6: And then the oblique situation or and that's the one.
Speaker 5: Like what it like? What is that like?
Speaker 6: There was never really details or specifics at least that
I heard that were like, what is it? How do
you fix it? What is it really affecting? Well, we
saw it, if we saw it effected. It affected his mechanics.
It affected the amount of torque that he could put
on the pass and step forward. Because the you take
the same passes he threw this year compared to the
same pass as they.
Speaker 5: Threw last year, it just looked different. He didn't get
the torque on it.
Speaker 6: He tried, He just could not create that force and
get his weight going forward too many back, too many wait,
going backwards throws uh. And then it's just when something
goes right. As a quarterback or anything, you start pressing,
you try, you start you stop trying to make plays,
and you start trying to not make mistakes.
Speaker 5: And that's what he did. And then that's when you
make more mistakes.
Speaker 6: You start seeing those Sam Darnold ghosts that he saw
a couple of years. You start not being able to
move in the pocket, you start looking down at the
rush and it snowballs and it's snowballed on Garrett, That'smier
this year, and it's snowball on everybody for the LSU offense.
So absolutely does he have the most approved in our eyes?
Speaker 5: Certainly?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got the most to gain from this week.
Speaker 5: So I can't wait. Tell I don't it's not just us,
Like I do want our listeners to know that, Like
this isn't just LSU homer shows. Yeah, we just had
a Florida Gayo Homers say that Andy Stables, Yeah, shout
out to Andy Woks on three does a great job.
He said the same thing. In scouts that I've talked
to have said the same thing, like, and it doesn't
matter which team, like Drew Fabianij, I'm sure we'll say
pretty much the same thing. They who runs this game?
Because of where his draft stock was before last year
to kind of where it fell to, like where there
was times where you were wondering is he going to
be draftable because the bad habits that you create and
you're trying to do all the things that you had
to go through, like you just kind of laid out there.
So were they a slight quarterback class when nobody really
knows who the number two behind Fernando Mendoza. Is is
it ty Simpson? Chambliss could maybe be, but he wants
to go play in college.
Speaker 6: Well, he looked like ty Simpson's not here at this game. Yeah,
so that does tell you that somebody has given him
some advice about where they think he's going. So that
that should be all you need to know about where
ty Simpson's going to fall. Maybe not in the draft
order because I don't know how many first rounders.
Speaker 5: Are in this class.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but where he's going to go in the quarterback list,
at least he's got to be. I would think the
second guy or the third guy, dependent on what happens
with with Trinidad.
Speaker 5: Who knows. He did probably start with stuff finding that
got good fight Well, yeah, because Drew fa and you
did save a spot for tryda Jamus. But now the
game started, so like, let's go play in the NFL. Yeah,
you could go play in the NFL, but he was
playing college.
Speaker 6: Kind of the dream, It's kind of what.
Speaker 4: You were before the ultimate goal?
Speaker 5: What about I got like a guy like Carson back, Like,
did you think.
Speaker 6: He would maybe be here? I think he's an interesting option.
I'm not a pro I'm not a scout. Well, I
think of the name Carson back.
Speaker 5: You do have a notebook, though, mouth breathing.
Speaker 6: I'm thinking this is just a guess and I'm basing
this off of absolutely nothing.
Speaker 5: Round five okay, just because of the blows, ups and downs,
peaks and valleys, whatever you want to say.
Speaker 6: Well, look, I think this is again, this is a
draft class where there's a couple of guys at the top.
But then I think there's probably there might be this gap. Yeah,
like a quarterback drought in this draft, fourth, fifth, sixth round.
I don't know where it's going to, where he's going
to fall, But I don't think he's a He's not
a guy that you're going to take right now to
be a starter, right, He's guy that I think you
taken good back up, maybe turns into a starter when
he gets his opportunity.
Speaker 5: Can he you know, can he make it worth it?
Type of guy?
Speaker 6: I don't know, And I base that off of absolutely nothing.
I don't know what the draft stock is. I don't
know what scouts are saying. We can certainly ask around,
though we're in.
Speaker 5: The right place. We got our ear to the ground. Yeah,
we do absolutely we're gonna be able to know all
the things by the time we get done here. All right,
there is multiple LSU players here, and hopefully today the
goal is to talk to at least one LSU player.
Yesterday we had a couple of quarterbacks. We had Joel
Thomas actually going to be the head coach for the
American team here of the New Orleans Saints' coaching staff there.
You didn't see him, well, you saw his back, you
didn't see his face, but he.
Speaker 6: Gave some great We flipped the desk today, so all
of the other people that are tuning in watching on YouTube,
did you were doing nothing the talent. We're not going
to give anybody the option just to put their butt
in the camera.
Speaker 5: Oh that's true. If he stopped by today, like you
would have to, he'd have to work for it. Make
him stop again. He gave good stuff, just like just okay,
let's see your face. Yeah. Uh, maybe we can get
Tolzy and stop by as well. We were talking to
him yesterday. We'll make him get on camera again today.
There's seven Saints coaches here, so they are well represented
and throughout the show, like we did yesterday, We're gonna
kind of go through. Okay, who do we think like
Jacobe Lange was a guy from Chakobe Lane? What school? Yes? See,
look at this guy? Are you kidding me? Look at
this guy. Don't ask me anybody else. I'm not Jennings
Dunker Iowa two for two two fed that one to myself.
You did, but you're still two for two. You got
it right, Thank you. So we'll talk about who the
Saints could be looking at, considering they have so many
coaches here, boots on the ground, mmobile actually coaching the game,
sitting in meetings with these players. We'll take our first
break more when we come back here live from Mobile, Alabama.
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he's here now. Is there a mobile? Yeah? Okay, all right,
look look at you, Kevin Coleman. Yeah, okay, see or
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He's from Opelusius, Louisiana. Yeah, college at I do know this.
We'll we'll tease it for next segment. You definitely won't
google that. Do you think the owner of the bills those?
Uh yeah, well Michigan State and then Florida State. Well,
I didn't know that. I wouldn't got there.
Speaker 6: No, Okay, maybe I don't read the back of the
sports cards.
Speaker 5: Well I'll just tave you the pictures. And that's how
you know where somebody went to college. I can appreciate it.
What are you talking about. I can appreciate it. Nothing. No,
instead of like knowing where they played, Oh I got you.
I thought you're saying, that's where you know where I
went to college. Oh no, I know. We were to
college Louisiana State University. It's the only place that you win.
You didn't go four places. Anyways, any who's the rosters
are a little a little bit different than maybe we thought.
And we still gotta we gotta get comm formation. And
so when drew sits down was like in five minutes,
because there was initially five LSU players. Now the list
is down two three. He did say that they had
to change a couple of flights. Yeah, I think one
hundred and fifty.
Speaker 6: Yeah, which is a real pain in the rear.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure it costs a little bit of money
to do that. Yeah, And he meant he mentioned that.
But it's not just players. There's a lot of people
trying to cover this game. That have always been this game.
I know, like our guy Chris Dory, like he right now,
he was on flights all day yesterday that just kept
getting canceled and canceled and canceled. He was trying to
go through Charlotte from Gainsville to Charlotte, Charlotte's to Mobile.
We did have Andy Staples stopped by before the show.
We were chatting it up, who also lives in Gainesville,
and he's like, yeah, I never fly. I always drive
to this game because by the time you go from
here to there to back.
Speaker 6: You probably have to have from Gainsville to Atlanta, then
Atlanta the Pensacola, rent a car and then drive.
Speaker 5: You can get into Mobile too if you wanted to.
Of course, about the same as I think everybody I've
talked to those had they fly, A lot of people have,
but also new Eiel flew in Mobile last night. All
I got basically Andy was saying Ding's bougie and he
just got in a car and made the five and
a half hour drive. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6: Uh, that's that's an obvious move though. Anything five and
a half hours.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like Charlos to go down to thirty eight.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, so maybe maybe if it's a you're going somewhere,
if the airport's close to you and it's a direct flight,
but if you got to connect, yeah, you ain't get anywhere.
Speaker 5: Under five hours. No. That's why it like, we would
never fly to this had been because it's a three
hour drive, but we would have to go from Baton
Rouge to Atlanta to Mohill or Veton Rouge to Dallas
to You got to calculate everything.
Speaker 6: You gotta talk, You got to calculate the drive time
to the airport, You got to calculate the time you
got to be there before.
Speaker 5: You can't just say, well, it took off.
Speaker 6: At five o'clock and only got there three and a
half hours later. Nope, sorry, when did you leave your house?
Speaker 5: And that's why the New Orleans Saints are so well
represented here at the Senior Bowl because they are drivable.
They're the closest team. And I know this game has
talked about moving for a couple of different years, but
for the Saints, it is very convenient. And that's why
they have seven coaches going to be coaching for the
American team. We talked about receiver yesterday for the Saints.
What other positions do we think maybe, I mean, this
is a deep edge.
Speaker 6: We know it's an EDG rusher class, so I think
that I mean that is when we go off to
practice today, the thing that I'm most excited to watch
is one on one routes.
Speaker 5: So so receivers verse dbs.
Speaker 6: And then the quarterback throwing of course, and then one
on one pass protection. Yeah, I cannot wait to see
these offensive line go against the defensive line. So that's
where that's where people. I think those one on one
reps is at a position like rusher or offensive tackle.
I think that's where you can move up some rounds
just because, all right, this guy looks the part. I've
seen him play, I've seen him do it on film.
But you don't really know the competition. Well, you get
the best on the best here at the Senior Bowl.
So if you dominate and you come out looking like
an alpha like, you're gonna turn some heads. And when
they're sitting when you have gms and scouts sitting there
on draft day looking at that best available, looking at
all the big boards and everything, those one on one
reps stick out to you. Certainly, it's not like how
you played in the game. It's not like, well he
grated out of eighty three at the Senior Bowl game. No,
it's like, was that guy a dog? Did he whip
somebody's tail one on one? So I can't wait to
watch that. So yeah, certainly edge rusher for the Saints
would be I mean, we've.
Speaker 5: Talked about a nauseum like there's.
Speaker 6: Besides quarterback, there's really not a position that you couldn't
use a little bit more depth. But certainly edge rusher
would make huge difference. Another lockdown corner would be fantastic. Yeah, but.
Speaker 5: You know not what's gonna happen as far as free
agency with some guys and Jennings Dunker Lante Taylor falls.
As far as edge rushers, a couple of names that
I think a lot of people will know.
Speaker 4: T J.
Speaker 5: Parker from Clemson somebody's talked about a lot. Logan for
new from Utah denied. Dennis Sutton from Penn State is
somebody that had a lot of fanfare coming into the season.
Romelo Height from Texas Tech is also another player that
had a really good year and kind of, you know,
put his name in front of a lot of college
football fans. So those are some edge rushers to pay
attention to. I'm going to give you a say, a
small school, but he's just a group of six. Guy
at dB, you mentioned corner Chris Johnson from San Diego State. Okay,
that's somebody to kind of pay attention to. I think
he is a really good player, and I'm looking forward
to seeing happy a little bit, thank you, looking forward
to seeing how he competes here at the Panini Senior Ball.
So if you're watching practice, look out for Chris Johnson
from San Diego State. All right, we are going to
step away because Drew Fabiani, is the executive director of
the Panini Senior Ball is going to join us when
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Speaker 5: All Right, welcome back in It is OTB here live
from the twenty twenty six Panini Senior Bowl Mobile Alabama.
Of course, our You're brought to you by First American
Bank and Trust. And we look at Drew. Drew hit
the button with his with this cord. Oh, Drew, that
was Drew good one. Ye.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh, there we go.
Speaker 5: We got all kind of buttons. I mean, you want
to talk about fitting in with the right crew, just
start playing with the buttons on the world and I
try to do well. That's Drew Fabianity, executive director of
this Panini Senior Ball Drew, how you doing good? How
you guys doing doing fantastic? Glad to be here. Uh,
it's chilly outside, but gonna warm up a little bit
later for practice.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I heard it swimming be like around forty eight to
fifty right in there in the wind.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he ware like twenty this morning.
Speaker 7: But as long as it's not raining, as long as
it's not raining and the wind won't be blowing like
it was yesterday.
Speaker 5: You know, I was kind of hoping it was so
I could just go heckle the quarterbacks, though in practice
you would.
Speaker 7: Be heckling, yeah, because like mettle to you, you better
make sure the tip down on that one.
Speaker 5: By the first segment, like how do you throw the
football in the wind?
Speaker 4: Down.
Speaker 6: That's exactly right kind of speak of that. So the
what a week this is?
Speaker 4: This is a.
Speaker 6: Year's worth of preparation all wrapped into one week, and
so you're kind of like the man of the like,
how much sleep you getting in right now?
Speaker 4: You know? Actually not, it's not that bad, okay.
Speaker 7: You know, I've got a great staff and that that's
part of the thing that people don't really realize that
we've got eight full time people, you know, I'm nine,
including me, which handled most of the operations piece of it.
And then we've got myself, you know, my director ops,
and plus two scouting assistants to handle the you know,
the football side. Plus we've got ten area scouts. You
can sparkle all over the country and you know, and
I mean and again you don't know that. So again,
like I came in and checked on the interviews last
night and everything was running smooth, and I was like,
I'm out, you know, because I was here from like
five already. You know, I was like, hey, it's nine thirty,
I'm done, you know.
Speaker 5: And you switched the schedule up a little bit this year. Yeah,
so practice is going to be a little bit later
than it normally.
Speaker 7: Was well that end, and you'll find out in about
the twenty five minutes the players are going to start interviewing. Yeah,
the interviews used to be at night. They were at
night last night because there was no practice yesterday. So
we had some community service things that we did and
which went off really really well, you know, but what
I did is doing that, I had to push back practice,
which asking the network and asking ESPN in the network,
the NFL network, it pushed.
Speaker 4: Into primetime, so they were like, let's go.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, because they're going to make more money
on the advertising dollars for the you know, the commercials.
Speaker 4: You guys know, you're in media now. So that was
that was an issue. You know.
Speaker 7: The issue was that I didn't want these guys to
be tied up like they were because they were interview
seven o'clock ten thirty every night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now they have.
Speaker 7: The downtime as soon as we get done with the
programming after their meal, which is minimal, like it'll be
Merrill Lynch, you know, it'll be the you know, the
Panini night you know and all that, but they'll be
done like about eight thirty eight forty five. I have
some downtime be able to recover, they'll be able to
go to the training room, they'll be able to take
care of the bodies a little bit more, you know.
And that's what I wanted this to be about. I
wanted to be about the player, right, And yeah, we
pushed it back, and it also made it to where
the community can actually get there. You know, if somebody
worked till five, they can at least get an hour
of practice right and bring the child and meaning that's
something they couldn't do before because practice used to end
like at four point thirty. That's it, you know. But
then you know the problem, well not the problem. The
issue I heard from the agent was that, you know,
the player was like NonStop from like six o'clock all
the way to ten thirty, and it.
Speaker 4: Was hard on them.
Speaker 7: So I wanted to make it better for them, but
it made it better for everybody else too. So I
was like, all these guys just walking past.
Speaker 4: Going, hey, I got an evening. I can actually go.
Speaker 5: To dinner now.
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, you know, normally it's rundown to
Joe Cane are Chick fil A and you know, run
back over here. But now there's a lot of changes.
But I think it benefits everybody.
Speaker 4: I really do.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 6: You had some logistical challenges, that's probably that's probably the
source of having extra cocktail.
Speaker 7: We monitored I mean, we monitored it so closely. And
we were sitting in the office last week, me and
Jack and he goes, yeah, he says, supposedly they're getting ice.
I said, no, they're getting ice in Dallas. And I said,
and I lived there, and I said, we need to
get them out now. And so we started on can
we get the hotel rooms. That was the biggest piece,
you know, because we didn't want to bring them in
and have nowhere.
Speaker 4: To put them.
Speaker 7: So we scrambled around, got rooms, you know, did all that,
and when it was all said and done, we had
about eighty six percent of them in here on Friday,
and now we're only missing one player and we're at
a full roster. One hundred or one hundred and twenty
five flight changes were made, and you know, felt sorry
for Jack because he was kind of helping the travel agent.
Speaker 4: I was like, dude, you can't do that job too.
I was like, but he was.
Speaker 7: He was doing a great job, and you know, and
again the logistics were just awful. But got the coaches here,
got the players here, and the weather's getting better and better.
You know, hang around long enough, Matt, it'll maybe be
sixty on Saturday. You never know, doubt here coming off
the water, it changes.
Speaker 5: That's right. How many L Shoe guys ended up because
I know five initially I think three.
Speaker 4: I think three. Yeah, I think it's I.
Speaker 5: Think the final roster with two receivers, right, and Anderson
Brown then had nuts.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and nus because we lost the other ones because
of injury.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean and j Hasty and Jack Pieburn, yes.
Speaker 7: Yes, And trust me, if you knew Jack Piburn, you know,
and the way he is that he wanted to be
here and he was just like, I can't. And again,
I'm not going to push anybody, especially if they have
some kind of medical issue, because if they come down here,
I mean, you can get embarrassed down there.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know if you're not getting fully healthy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's You've seen the guys that you know, hey,
maybe in small college guys or maybe been that fringe
guy that did get embarrassed down here.
Speaker 4: But there's also.
Speaker 7: Those guys that elevate themselves through the roof, you know,
and I think there's gonna be some of those guys
that elevate themselves through the roof down here.
Speaker 5: Give me a small college guy. Maybe somebody that's under
the radar, because we were actually just talking about it
right before you came on. Somebody that you're looking forward
to seeing against, you know, power for guys each and
every day in practice.
Speaker 7: Probably Ted Hurst, the receiver from Georgia State. I think
he'll surprise, you know, the Deming's kid from Steven F.
Speaker 4: Austin.
Speaker 7: You know, him and Malik Muhammad are a lot alike,
you know, just different resources, different schools. I mean, you
know he's gonna show that he belongs. You know, the
Montgomery kid we picked up, you know, from the American Bowl.
What was strange story, but a great story. I mean
Division one basketball commit, you know, showed out down there
and everybody told me, hey, you need to take a
peek of this kid. And I mean, because we didn't
look at him, ain't gonna like it. I didn't look
at him until he was down there. Then I had
access to the tape and I was like, yeah, this
guy belongs, you know. And I was like, you know again,
he didn't play because his Mom.
Speaker 4: You know he was ill.
Speaker 7: You know, he didn't take the basketball scholarship ends going
to John Carroll mean Division III school blows it up.
I mean, and we'll see. I mean, I think he'll
show he belongs and I think people will be really surprised.
Speaker 4: I really do. Trying to think of the other any
other ones.
Speaker 5: I was note with Johnson from San Diego State.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't consider him kind of a sleeper because
he's he's actually got some really good tape and and
all the personnel people know him, you know, the Steven
f kid. I mean, it's like I don't know how
he stated Stephen Fan because I would have been a
general MANU. Yeah, you're not staying there.
Speaker 4: Let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 6: Drew kind up a loaded question here, but all you
it's already seven to forty.
Speaker 5: Drew's your coffee, al right.
Speaker 6: So I know that like all the stages that these kids,
these kids have to be on, like we talked about
it yesterday, like everything that they do from here till
next September is about making a football team, and it's
all maker. Everything they do is a make or break situation.
From how they talk to in these interviews, how do
they act in the meeting rooms, how they perform in
individuals and one on one team drills. Everything that they
do is about not getting cut or not getting so
Joel Thomas yesterday, one of the coaches here, coach coach
for the New Orleans Saints, kind of said, in these
interview processes, of course, we're looking for that one thing
that they say that makes them stick out in a
good way. We're also looking for the one thing that
might make us take somebody else. So of all the
things that they do, is there anything that sticks out
to you that is might make somebody slide or elevate
themselves more?
Speaker 7: You know, I think that again this is this is
the NFL wants this to be part of the process,
and it is the draft does start and will be
the last time they put in the pads right against
the best of the best. That's what they want. They
want to see you compete against the best of the best.
Bottom line, And like you said, is there if you
don't fulfill the pieces of the process, whether it's the interviews,
like you said, being with the coaches, being on time,
being accountable, being mature, showing you're a professional. You know,
if you don't do that, then the check marks go away. Right, Well,
they want the check marks, they want the Senior Bowl.
They want you to go through the interviews, practice play
bam bam bam. Right, they want you to go to
the combine bam bam, bam right. Pro dame bam bam bam.
When you don't do the process the way the league
expects you to, it's gonna throw red flags up. And
it's also going to say, and here's the biggest thing
to me, how do you prove that you love the game?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 7: Because you guys know, you've been in the locker room,
you've been in an NFL organization and in that building.
Speaker 4: If you don't love the.
Speaker 7: Game, the game will I mean the building and the
players will eat your ass a live.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 7: So again, if you can show that you love to play,
at least you got a chance, you know. And that's
because people and I always the quote, it wasn't a
magic you know, answer or answer question or whatever, but
I'd ask coaches, does he love to play?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And I'd say, can you give me an example? Well,
guess what if it took two minutes to figure out example?
You know, that was that was no real, you know,
but a coach is never going to say, you know,
well he kind of likes it, you know, but they're
not going to say that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 7: A guy did tell me that a long time ago
in scout and he told me, this guy's in for
the money and everything else. And guess what he busted,
which was nice because I had a contact.
Speaker 4: I mean, we went way back. But normally they don't
tell you. They don't.
Speaker 7: So to answer your question, the biggest piece is how
can I show that I love to play and be
a professional, right bottom line? That's that's how simple this is.
If you don't go through the process, it hurts you.
There are some guys last year that didn't go through
the process and did not take it serious, did not
do it the right way. And guess what, they kept
sliding in the draft because buildings aren't comfortable with guys
that they get there every time you go. Or here's
the other thing the NFL wants to tell you, No, yeah,
they do, they do, and guess what you you let
them say no, that's what happens. Then you get cut
or you don't even make it there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say that's probably like the majority of
scout's job is to find reasons not to draft somebody.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and then if.
Speaker 6: You find there's somebody that makes it through and he's
got no x's near his name, that's when you start
getting serious about that.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 7: We used to we used to say the cleaner the
higher you take somebody, the cleaner they have to be, right,
you know.
Speaker 4: And and that's bottom line.
Speaker 7: I mean, and again, I can punch holes in anybody, Okay,
But can I punch holes in somebody's character if they
got really good character? No, I can punch holes in
their game, right, sure, you know. But here's the other thing.
I think a lot of players character shows up on tape. Yeah,
and people don't grasp that until you watch enough of
a player, not highlights, I'm talking about game tape. Yeah,
because you know you'll see a guy take a playoff
here and there, or you'll see your hair on fire guy.
You know, you'll see lot, you'll see that's the first
guy in last Guy out.
Speaker 4: You know, you just see it on tape. I mean
you can so just like eighteen.
Speaker 7: Yet if you get an eighteen, guess what, Yeah, you've
already proved it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's perfect for our last question. That's all right,
all right, we got about ninety seconds left. Drew the
last guy to word, bradn l Shue, Garrett Nesmeyer. It
was like a giant week for him. The junior tape
is incredible, over four thousand yards in the sec uh,
the senior tape played through injury system, didn't work out,
did not have the year by any means that he
was hoping to have. Does he have the most to gain?
Maybe here at this year's game.
Speaker 7: I would say yes, and just because again here and
I'm gonna and I'm gonna throw the media under the
bus on this one too.
Speaker 4: Wasn't he like the.
Speaker 7: Second rated quarterback in the draft, whenn't he like mocking
like a pick six, seven, eight, whatever, my first round? Okay, Now,
all of a sudden, you know he's roadkill. And like
you said, I can't unsee what I saw, Like you said,
four yards, twenty four touchdowns. I mean, there was no
way I was not gonna invite Garrett to this game,
right because they didn't protect well, he was hurt. The receivers,
you know, the half of them didn't produce like they
were supposed to. Couldn't run the ball. I mean, there's
so many things that went against him. Well, when you're
evaluating a guy, you go, why, you know, why are
the why is this happened? Well, he's gonna come down here,
and I'm gonna say this flat out.
Speaker 4: The media will be talking about.
Speaker 7: Him at the end of the week and like, you know,
he could possibly get back into the first round, no kidding,
no kidding, because the traits are already there. The production
was already there, you know. And now it's like, oh, well,
you know he got beat up. You know, well they
didn't play. Well, yeah, it was it his fault, right,
you know, if you watch enough tape you know it's not.
But again, a lot of people don't watch tape. They
just talk yeah you know. So and again I pride
myself on doing that and put this way. I invited
him in August. Now I didn't put the official invite
out there. Yeah, oh you know, because I can't. But
I told him, I said, look, you're coming the mobile.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then you know, midway through the year, people are
going like you still bring a nusmar Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure,
em ye, you know sure I am.
Speaker 5: I love that. We God, Drew, we got to go,
you're the man. We appreciate. We'll be here all week,
so looking forward to hanging out senior practice today.
Speaker 7: I'd like guys enjoy yourselves and hopefully the weather get
warm enough or we won't be freezing a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but hit it up.
Speaker 4: Pleasure having you got.
Speaker 5: All right, TB when we come back here live from
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from the twenty twenty six Perini Senior Bowling Mobile presented
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Speaker 5: Oh geez, we are live here from the Panini Senior.
But of course our coverage brought to you by First
American Bank and Trust. Any waving out there, Buddy, U
nuts nuts bus? Say nuts, buss? How's it going, Bud?
My back's turn so I can't say hi. I'm giving
in the backwards way kind of awkera of the backwards well,
laundry just fixed the cord. The cord was tangled up
a little bit, daring drew, and I felt like I
was like in a just a screwdriver type position, like awkward. Yeah,
nobody holds full back one down like a cord. Well, yeah,
because I was about to full back one rip it
out of this thing, me like, no work. I don't
see any fullbacks in here though, week no grit in
this room, right, they must be uh getting interviewed. They're
still getting first up. The're still getting their measurements. Actually
they couldn't believe them.
Speaker 6: So speaking of maggies, five nine, seven eighths, H yeah,
diego Pavia yesterday the.
Speaker 5: Most famous heights in America. The only one I saw
yesterday from obviously, like it's the only one I saw
from any media outlet. And he did just walk by
us and H five nine and seven eights. You said
seven eights. Y. Anytime that you throw the seven eights
out there, it's not good. But just like when I
ask you how tall you are and you always say
sixteen a quarter exactly, so you want to be six.
Speaker 6: In our day, they used to measure by the quarter inch.
Now they're going by the eighth, which is a little rude.
Speaker 5: I feel like, okay, well, people tell me, like I
measured five eleven the combine. I don't think I'm five eleven.
I think I'm five to ten, So I tell people
five to ten. I don't give him any you can
and a half. I don't you don't believe the measuring tape.
I feel like I shrunk after so many ISOs.
Speaker 6: Okay in the air now, yeah, yeah, go see a.
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Speaker 6: Quarterbacks measurements. Taylor Grain six six yea's ray, how's the
air up there?
Speaker 5: Taylor?
Speaker 6: Yeah, seriously slower. Robinson six three and a half. Luke
Altmeyer six foot one and two eights. Some would say
one quarter carrottnus Meyer six foot one then zero eights.
That's good for him, though. Cole Peyton six foot two,
three eighths. Diego Pavia five nine seven eighths. It's a
weird eight eight eight thing is weird, Like if they
went by a quarter he'd get rounded up there.
Speaker 5: All right, Well, hopefully we'll catch up with one of
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