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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies, gentlemen, Welcome back to your monthly edition of

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the Gimmick Wrestling Show on the geek Vers channel, bringing

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everything down the past month of wrestling. We got a

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lot of stuff talk about, so that's why I'm talking fast.

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But I'm the Canadian Nightmare. Trust. Now I'm joined by

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I Suppose who has no nickname? So is this on?

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Speaker 2: I had lots of options, but I forgot to write

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any of them down, so I guess.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, the true in form. And then we're joined

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live from the Shark Day here Sharkcage. David, how's it

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going tonight?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm loving these early ending pay per views

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or premium live events. I'm all here for it.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, I still because just because was it

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aw so around, I still call them like paper because

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there's still a pay per view that exists and everything,

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so it's not for me. And even then, like I

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just peel, I have not learned.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say once they come to max, so

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no of those lots of paper them.

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Speaker 3: So technically I'm still paying for peacocks, so that's paper.

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Speaker 1: But that's your premium live event, right, it's not a paper.

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I guess it's like a pay per view. I'm not sure,

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but that's right now. I'm just using the Rock as

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the thumbnaw. I can't find a great photo. You people

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on the internet. Stop sharing like seven twenty photos, you know,

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like come on now.

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Speaker 2: But the Rock main event and just to raise the eyebrown.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get in that because I feel like this one,

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there's lots of stuff that we did. We talked about

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some predictions. We're gonna be the rundown is. We're gonna

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talk about bad Blood first, and we're gonna talk about

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other tingentral WDE things the next the NXT debut, and

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then we're gonna talk about the vinstock for a little bit.

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Then we'll talk about some a w But there's gonna

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be lots of just hot takes and free agency. Of course,

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lots of hot takes in the middle. That tranker is

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fucking mint. So I'm gonna start with you subs. We're

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gonna go to the main event first. I'm also gonna

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pull up the Rocks promo because I've not watched it,

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so we're gonna watch it live on air because I was.

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Speaker 2: Like like the end of it and he didn't really

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say anything.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, sure, I think.

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Speaker 2: This might be a classic. It was a classic rock

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like I'm the final Boss and I'm the boss and

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everyone calls me the bosson no one's the boss but me. Okay,

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if you smell and drove away, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I thought it a bit more because he was like,

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is I mean?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he said at the start. I

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caught it like I saw it started, like as soon

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as he walked backstage. When I caught it, he was

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already like by the production trucks, like getting into a car.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, because at first, when I had the first beginning,

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He's like, am I happy about this? Am I mad?

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I'm I sad? I'm I down the middle. I don't know.

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I'm sure if there's gonna be anything of NOE, we'll

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find it by scoopers and everything like that. But we'll go, well,

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we're gonna talk about that main event first because it's

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the hot button topic, but overall of the show, what

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do you think before we get into the main event

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and match my match and stuff, what do you think

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of a bad Blood returning the first time? Since it's

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five right, there's a last one. I think I don't

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think there was.

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Speaker 2: There was definitely. Actually no, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I think because oh actually I actually

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don't know if it's because three was Nash and Hunter

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and then five was HBK and Triple H, which we

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talked about a couple of weeks months ago where people

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said that Rubin wrestling. Okay, yeah, that was the people

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joke that they say that they killed the Battle Player review.

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I'll be here to remind you again, great match. Don't

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listen to everybody, you know, I gotta go what's I

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haven't uh? What is the site called again? Drop kick?

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I'm gonna go on there and drop a fucking I'm

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gonna watch it soon this week and drop a great

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rating and let.

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Speaker 2: You can look up. I can look up if if

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it has a rating and see what it is.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure Pe just bombed. But I love

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that match. So yeah, it has been literally twenty years

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since we got a Bad Blood pay per view. So

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actually I'll throw David firstcus sbub's doing some uh some

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investigating on the numbers there. So David, what do you

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main event and of their stuff happening.

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Speaker 3: I would say overall it was a great pay per view.

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but overall, like it started to straight fire out the

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gate and then it ended with a good match and

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a shocking not so shocking return. So I'm here for

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it too, shocking not so shocking returns. So yeah, now

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they uh pop age is out here delivering mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: And obviously we'll later on talk about the historic event

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as well. But that's what I was trying to say.

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and that's it. That's Okay, what's the rating.

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Speaker 2: Or well, guess what it is? I guess that of five?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so out of five, I'm gonna say it's Oh,

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Speaker 2: I there's only eleven, eleven people have rated it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then I'm gonna say it's under two point five.

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I'm gonna say it's a two point two. That's what

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Speaker 2: It's a two point eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So.

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Speaker 2: Because two people have given it five stars and the

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I haven't watched it a while, but I

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would at least give it a four. I liked the drama.

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longest Hell in the Cellar or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I most liked. The review of it says it's too long,

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but it's it's the rivalry deserved. It did.

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Speaker 1: Everything, and I do get it. There's one shot within

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the mat there's just dead for like three minutes. But

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we'll move on. We'll debate one day. Maybe well we

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should do a watch along when if there's a slow month,

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we'll do a watch along and just see. But yeah,

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that'll be one that will do part one the news

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and then part two the bad Blood watch along. But

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I suppose what do you think of the show?

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Speaker 2: I'd say overall, I enjoyed it. There's definitely some like like,

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okay matches I'd say in the middle, But there are

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also some matches I think I liked more than most

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people online.

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Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, I saw it, I had Jack's

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Speaker 2: But overall, yeah, I liked it. I think the tag

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mat she was like it was. It was weird. I

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don't know if I didn't dislike it, But I don't

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know if I really loved it at any point, but

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it was just like hot Tag, then just like work

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the corner and then hot Tag since both of them

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can get the hot Tag pop, it was just cycling

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between them for a while. But I like the whole

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Jimmy return. I'm kind of interested in this trio. I

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didn't think there would never be a Cody Roman Jimmy trio,

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seemingly facing maybe the Rock and Jacobattu and Sol was

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the co at some point, I guess, so yeah, but yeah,

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a great start to the show, obviously with the first match.

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Speaker 1: Another big debate this weekend of what should have gone

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A lot of politiccking debates going on right now.

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Speaker 2: I saw someone say if this show could have been

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in reverse, which I think might have worked.

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Speaker 1: It's tough because like I I, I agree and don't agree.

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So we had talked both in the discord. Join our discord.

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We're always talking wrestling, I said, like meming, but I

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still believe that that. I was like, I don't believe

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Roman's not many men in this pay per view, you know,

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like I just had my boot, like especially especially with Punk,

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especially like and I don't care what people say. It

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was less than two years ago when Roman shit talked

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and was like, yeah, I don't like that guy. He

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meant it really hard for me. He like the shirt

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and needle mover was based off of like his view

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of seeing punk while he was at aaw not even

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while he's in the company, so there was no way

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they go, what, yeah, Punk's going on last? Uh uh?

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meme right of all punk and twenty eleven. So the

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champishoure going last? I do believe that as well. I

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was very salty. I did not like the entrances. I

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did not like that Cody. It's always it's just a

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minor thing, but I hated that Cody came out first.

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He's the champ and he should be like he's I

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don't care about the band whatever. They can set them

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all up, so anyways, we'll get in that wing in

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the match. But yeah, the show overall, I think I

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think if you reverse it, because oh that's what we're

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talking about, it's tough because I was fully on board that, Okay,

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whatever Cody Roman I get at his hometown the champ.

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I see why I held the cell and yes, definitely

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was the better match, like spoils for my thoughts there,

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but I thought, Okay, if Rock's gonna come back, it's

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gonna be like how in what is it? Oh three?

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and it was just to do the whole Samy angle.

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Speaker 2: Right, like like CM Punk. Not that this was planned

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out that far ahead, but like having a great ending

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like the Rock coming out. Sometimes like people forget about

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some like people remember Punk returning at Survivor series. I

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don't think they remember that Dragon Lee versus Santos Escobar

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was like anate Survivor.

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it's the Rock. But I thought there was gonna be

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more to it. I thought there was gonna be some stuff,

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a little bad for the crowd because that does suck

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of like you got to see the rock, but you

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saw the rock, especially if you don't have a monitor,

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you can't. He's just standing there straight he put and

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especially when he was doing his fingers as like oh fuck,

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something huge, like there's gonna be a turn, like another something.

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Speaker 2: Put like like one, and then he put four. I

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was like, are four more someone? Yeah? I felt like

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like he's like one, like okay, obviously that's him, and

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then he's like four on like four people like I

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was expecting. And then they played I think he did

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the four and they played his music again, yes, like

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he was leaving. But I thought that was like someone else,

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like these four people are coming.

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Speaker 1: Out me too, especially because I feel like the lights

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like went before the music, so it's like, oh ship

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like something. I even thought it was something like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought there was a chance. When he did

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the count the inn, I thought it would have been

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great ending if Jimmy fucking Super kicked Roman and it

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would have been like, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Because he was like he's standing like behind them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was so overly like I love you, like

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we gotta help him, like he's so big yeah, and

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like Hi and SU's in the chat. He's gonna listen

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to more. He messaged me. He's like, what the fuck's

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up with Jimmy because, like it is true before I

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didn't mean to cut you off, David, but like before,

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I forget this. It's like Jimmy USO. You get the

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pop it's hype. But he's been one of the worst

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booked characters since summerslim of last year. He turned on

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his brother. It made no sense. They never made sense

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because he was the guy saying like, hey, Roman's an asshole,

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we shouldn't work with him. Then he turned on Jay

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he just goes it's Stockholm syndrome. He goes right back

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to Roman. So that's why I thought, oh, this could

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make sense if he kicks them and then Cody shocked.

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didn't get a big angle. It was just Okay, Rock's back,

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which is cool, big pop. But if there would have

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been like a the bloodline turns on Sammy's Zane like

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the you know, they turn on Roman, Cody beat him down.

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just for the rock to come out, it's like cool.

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But again, I feel bad for the live crowd that

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even though like the lights can go out and he

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didn't talk after, like you see him walk out and

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then walk away, it's like all right, like I don't know,

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really like you saw him from afar for a few minutes.

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He raised his eyebrown left and it's like, oh yeah.

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was going to be set with the shield all over again,

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like that was gonna be Jimmy's turn, like he was

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motioning for Jimmy to pull and it was gonna be

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one more time when Roman takes the chair to the

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back and he was gonna align with and you.

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Speaker 1: Could have set that up to you could have had

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Jimmy run around get the chair to fight off the

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old blood line or the new blood line and have

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that still hole.

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Speaker 3: I thought something was going on. I thought that the

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Tron was going to change something. You just did the

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and I'm like, oh, okay.

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Speaker 1: That was it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they restarted his music and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like cool, yeah, And I guess that is what I

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said to Haines that what they're gonna do is now,

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it's gonna be a few weeks because something like Okay,

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let's I guess it's tough for me to ask this,

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but I feel like they're gonna do a few weeks

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of who is the Rock with right? Is he with Roman?

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Is he with the blood line? Does he have his

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own blood line? But what I was going to ask

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is like, is Rock wrestling at Survivor Series? Because I

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feel like he has to now with him coming back

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now right, like it would feel weird for him to

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be back and then what on SmackDown come back and

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be like you know, I'm watching it and I'll be

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back again one day. It's like that's just a waste.

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I feel like.

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Speaker 2: In the War Games, yeah, he can come out last,

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could last. Yeah, he'll in your last like you're coming

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out like forty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: And oh he's standing there. You can see him.

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Speaker 2: Last year like he did is his five moves and

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then just like got the pin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rock can come in when everyone's like.

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Speaker 2: On everyone people's elbow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he can come in with a bunch of people

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are laid out so he can get his belt and

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whip a bunch of people. The baby Face make a

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little bit of a comeback because like I thought for

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sure that Solo and Jacob we're gonna win. I do

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think if the Rock wasn't here, they would win. But

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because now the Rock is back, I think they have to.

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It's odd to say that the Ogi, you know, Bloodline,

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is gonna lose them, but I feel like if the

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Rock with them loses, like this thing is just it's

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really done. Like it's just like there's not like especially

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if Rock whoevery verse at WrestleMania, Cody or Roman, he's

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gotta be strong. He can't lose at Wargan and not

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that he would take the pin, don't be wrong, like

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fucking tong tongalowas taking the pin. Definitely yeah, Jimmy or

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so Yeah, and then after he gets the mic and

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he's like, this is my last match. I just wanted

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to go out on my shield. Like he just completely

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babyfaces everybody. But yeah, I feel like now he has

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to be a survivor series, and you know, again, it's

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gonna be interesting because now I think we've got you know,

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new bloodline plus Rock and then you're gonna have Jimmy, Roman,

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Cody and Jay. And I think, to me, you gotta

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get Sammy because I don't care that he's not you know, bloodline.

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Like by blood, he was just as important as the

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rest of them. So like that five on five.

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Speaker 2: I think very important just happened on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Let me put it in the punks of the press conference.

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He's no pitching rockout.

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Speaker 2: Look at the what I just sent here, it's the.

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Speaker 1: Video, Oh in the discord. Okay, let's yeah. Uh, let's

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see Kevin just turn on Cody outside? What he beat

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him up outside?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: He's just okay, hang on, yeah, he just okay. So

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this is fucking that's interesting. I'm not like opposed to it,

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because like that's some that's some creative, like tackling the

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parking lot, but like did he just attack him or

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were they having a discussion they need to in there.

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I guess it's okay, it's coming up.

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Speaker 2: I got this kind of loud because I heard people screaming,

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so beakerful with the volume.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a cool angle, dude. So here a

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full screen it. There we go. So you got Kevin

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Owens he snapping, Yeah, Cody needs to get away from

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this bus. The Rock attacks in there. It's like the

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NXT parking lot, Like Cody's bus is a dangerous zone.

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But okay, then you know, I don't mind this because

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it's it's cool, gets them the trend. It's something that

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it's like they'll they'll, you know, on SmackDown, they'll have

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an actual camera guy footage of it right where like everything,

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and I'm interested to see like did he just attack him?

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Did was there? Oh Mychael, he's gonna charge. Was there

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like a discussion that he attacked him? But this fits

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with Kevin Owens character because.

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Speaker 2: I could be Jimmy like if he's like, oh, you're

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making friends with just some other guys?

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Speaker 1: Was driving? What the fuck? Good for him? Right? The

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Rock gifted it to him, like can you take out

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Cody for me?

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Speaker 2: Ko?

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Speaker 1: You know your Canadian.

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Speaker 2: Team Rock And yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: A whole bunch of but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Cody's getting beat Wall Triple H's in the

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middle of talking about black representation on w w p

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l's and you kill our black savior.

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Speaker 1: How dare you the guy holding the banner for the

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Black Communion rest He had.

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Speaker 3: An HBCU band come out and do his intro and

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then you have him get beat down like this, And.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you were talking about saying Snoop

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Dogg's last Black Man went on to you know, Cody,

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he's carrying that banner, he's he's the guy. But no,

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that that's that's interesting. I like that, and I guess

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I'm curious did they have a discussion before did he

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just attack him and to go to the NXT parking

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lot meme. I could be wrong, someone can correct me,

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but I think that started with Kevin Owens when he

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attacked Dayo with Tommy. I think that was the first

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time it ever happened, and they never revealed it. They

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never paid off. But like Kevin Owens has attacked people

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in parking lots before. So yeah, so that's where it's

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interesting because now you have we're gonna tuble the Crown

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Jewel stuff, but we'll leave that. Cody's busy there, so

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I guess maybe Cody isn't gonna be in the Blood Games.

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Or Blood Games fucking war Games match. Maybe it is

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just gonna be the four and four of Roman j

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And I just thought the reason Cody would be there

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because he would be the guy because I could see

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Sammy and Jay not wanting anything to do with Roman

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and Jimmy and vice versa, right, and Cody's like the

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bridge in the middle that gets them all together. But

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now if he's fighting Kaot Survivor series maybe and it's

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in Canada too, which is that's interesting. You're kind of

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putting Cody in a tough spot there because Kao's supposed

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to be a heel. I kind of actually hope they

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don't do it Survivor Series now. I hope they hold

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off and maybe like Kao like does some shenanigans during

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War Games, like attacks him or something, because I feel

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like Ko, if you're trying to push him as a heel,

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his first title match is a heel should not be

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in his home country where he's just gonna get cheered

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out the ass. But I don't know, that's that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I'm looking for the start of the Ko

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and Cody thing. I don't really see, Like all I

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see is like the fight and I see that photo

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that's them like talking. I don't know where that's from.

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Speaker 1: So then so then David, what do you think is

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the what do you think is the Bloodline Wargames match?

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Is Cody and is a Cody naughties with Ko? What

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do you think is because we just because a second,

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I would have sad one hundred percent. But now this development,

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So where are you hot moment? Right now?

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Speaker 3: I think that the it's not going to involve Cody.

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Cody's now out of that match. He's going to go

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and work program with Ko now, which makes sense because

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I was thinking after this match, like where do you

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go with Cody until everything is back on track with

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the Bloodline, Like he needs to take a step back

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from that, let them do their things. So now we

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got to see, Okay, so we've got Roman with Jimmy,

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are gonna need two more on their side? Which now

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we start looking at Hockey Leo and bring in somebody else.

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Now this is when we start bringing more people in Roman.

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Speaker 1: You don't think they'll just get Jay and Sam like

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Jay for sure getting back with them, because people are

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even channing Yeat during this and I was like, no, man,

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like Jay's Jay's come out for nobody. They chance during

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Damien's match Nothing Champion or three and nothing channing the

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Bloodline match. He's just at home. No, I ain't interfering anybody.

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Fuck y'all.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to see what Jay could go

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one of two ways. You can either leave him out

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of it and let him focus on being Intercontinental Champion

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for a while, do the whole fighting champion over the here,

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or you can bring him in for that moment. It's

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kind of hard with him being on Raw to get

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him involved in those storylines. Yeah so, but it could

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also be a situation where you bring him Hockey Leo.

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You have three verses four who's the final one gonna be?

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And then on the night you have Jay come because

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that's when he finally makes the crossover on the night

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of Who's going to be the last member, and then

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you can bring him in.

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Speaker 1: They could do it that way too, where they pitched

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Jay and he doesn't know and he is the last

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member and he comes again. That is close to Randy,

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but that's why I wish to not wish, but if

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the tag titles were still cross branded, you could have

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Sammy and Jay with those titles and they'd have a

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reason to be on SmackDown, right, and then they get cornered.

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I don't know how, because you're right that they're both

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on the separate brands. I still think Jay is to

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me one hundred percent log And for me, I still

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think you have to have Sammy in my opinion, I

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just think Samy was so key to the because people forget,

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like the Bloodline was starting to get stale, and then

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Sammy gone there and he revitalized that whole thing for

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like a year, and then when he went away, the

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Bloodline got stale again. After they got through Jimmy or sorry,

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the Jay turn, it was like there wasn't much more

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to do anymore. So I think that for me, I

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still think it's somehow Seth and Jay get over there.

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I don't really know right now. I don't have the answer.

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I don't have the booking window. Then could it just

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be they might just be, oh, yeah, Roman shows up

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on Raw one night and he just talks them buff,

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so yeah, I need you, and then they're like, oh,

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you know, I did love the Bloodline. I love those

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merch sales. So I don't know that that's how I

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think it's gonna go. But what about you, guske Boz,

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what's the war games long term? We got about We're

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a month and a couple of weeks from it.

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Speaker 2: So, uh, war games like the teams?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure yet really because I was thinking

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like there was a chance that they might do that,

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like with Ko and Randy and Cody and Roman. I

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was thinking that was like a possibility before this because

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00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:47,079
that was something people are theorizing, like if Jimmy's not

472
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:53,640
coming back. So now I don't really know. Uh, I

473
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,640
guess I guess it'd be probably four v. I think

474
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,119
last year ended up being like five v five because

475
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,279
it was Judgment Day plus Drew.

476
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,559
Speaker 1: Right, it was yeah, okay, yeah, I'm fine with five. Yeah.

477
00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I guess it depends on if it's four

478
00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:13,200
or five. I feel like I don't I'm not sure.

479
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,359
But uh, I was just looking up more of the

480
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,759
Cody Kevin stuff while you guys were talking, So I'm

481
00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:22,559
not sure what stuff you did or did didn't talk about.

482
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we just still talked about this so far

483
00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:27,240
we moved past that. But yeah, so tag match, I

484
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,079
thought it was it's exactly what the meme was right.

485
00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:32,079
For hell, the Cell was like either match to night

486
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,440
versus or match, and it was that. It was a

487
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,319
lot of the cinema type of wrestling. I think this

488
00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:39,559
was fine. It is tough when you had the Cell

489
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,920
earlier because yeah, quality match wise to sell DEFISHU on last.

490
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,759
But the Bloodline champ I get it, but yeah, I

491
00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:49,720
think it was good, just never kicked into I think

492
00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:54,319
they should have maybe had it. It's weird because with WrestleMania,

493
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,039
I didn't like that it was Bloodline rules or whatever,

494
00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:59,000
the no DQ and they just went out to the crowd.

495
00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:01,519
But I think the match maybe needed that a bit

496
00:23:01,519 --> 00:23:03,960
more because I still want to see more of like.

497
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,839
Speaker 2: Well that that WrestleMania match, like the or what do

498
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,319
you mean like the tag match yeaeah, it was a

499
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,440
normal match.

500
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:17,599
Speaker 1: Huge, Yeah, but either way they like that. I didn't

501
00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:20,039
think that match actually needed to have that. Where this match,

502
00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:21,960
I think a few more bells and whistles could have

503
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,240
more of the street fight could have benefited. I still

504
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,720
think it was like a solid match, Like I think

505
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,839
i'd give it, like I don't know, like a three

506
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,319
point twenty five, Like it's like okay, that's a good

507
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,079
main event. It has your moments. I think Cody and

508
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,599
Roman were both great. They had lots of looks at

509
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,119
each other, little stuff like when they're talking about who's

510
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,000
gonna start the match, if you could see Rome's lip,

511
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,680
he said, oh, you're the champ, which I again hate

512
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,640
that Cody went first because to me, that's like they

513
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,640
used to It's it's little stuff, but they used to

514
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,359
do that shit to Punk and it just for me,

515
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,640
it always just shows like, yeah, it's like Roman's still

516
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,680
like the guy in their minds. I still think they

517
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,359
think that, even though well maybe TKO and some people

518
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,680
think that. I think Triple H is full like Cody's

519
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,000
my guy. But it's an interesting dynamic. So I'll wait

520
00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:04,799
to see when they have an actual rematch and who

521
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:08,519
comes out. But I thought they had great ISM's. Roman

522
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:11,279
looked like a million bucks that man has been putting

523
00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:13,799
in the work. He looked like he looked like a

524
00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:16,000
comic book illustration. When he took a shirt on, I

525
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,640
cannot believe and everything, And I said in the discord,

526
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,839
it's not a bodysh anything. I just think that in

527
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,240
a w When they first started, Cody decided to be

528
00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:26,359
a bit more of a heavyweight. I think he should

529
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,160
do that a little more, especially he's gonna be in

530
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,599
there rock like he's just looking a little smaller next

531
00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:33,839
to them, and especially Roman, I think, like, get get

532
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:35,920
a few of those pounds back from aw just to

533
00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:41,200
like just to look a tad more, just a measurable

534
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,200
to them. But I get it, Cody's the wily ve

535
00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:45,839
Trina has all these tricks and everything. But I thought

536
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,839
it was a solid match. But I would never I'll

537
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,960
never rewatch this match. I would have no reason to

538
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,119
tune into this again. And even if I watched the

539
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,839
whole pay per views start to finish, which I don't

540
00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:57,839
think A did. I didn't even say about the whole

541
00:24:57,839 --> 00:25:00,680
pay review. I liked it. I think the middle slogged.

542
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,599
I think there's one match in particular that wasn't as

543
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,000
good as I thought was gonna be, and then there's

544
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:07,160
one that has screwy finished, which we all knew. And

545
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,440
I also thought the Historic it's the historic announcement too.

546
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,119
It's like for me, there's some cool stuff too, but

547
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,599
I think they build it up way too much. Just

548
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,480
say hey, Trip, it was the Tony kN thing. Just

549
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,759
say trip, Leach has announced it in a historic announcement. Okay,

550
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,440
these two guys are gonna wrestle and win a trophy.

551
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,359
No man.

552
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,799
Speaker 2: When I saw the title was under I was like,

553
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:28,960
are they bringing back the meme that people joke about

554
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,400
that Braun show and never defended.

555
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: His greatest greatest?

556
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

557
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,279
Speaker 3: My, don't we already have one of these belts?

558
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,279
Speaker 1: I thought for sure I put in the disc or

559
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,599
when I saw, I'm like, oh, it's gonna be the

560
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:43,440
woman's title. I thought, you know, they've been talking about it.

561
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:45,680
They're gonna do a tournament and the final is gonna

562
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,519
be a Crown Jewel And that's way because they're always

563
00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:49,640
tying to say they're trying to be more inclusive with women.

564
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,359
A Crown Jewel. Yeah, and what a way, Like we're

565
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,440
gonna crown the first ever women's secondary title at Crown

566
00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:57,200
Jewel and everything. But it wasn't. It was just a

567
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,640
triple being like it is twenty four with a thousand

568
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,240
cold get it diamonds. This is like it's like, these

569
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,599
guys aren't keeping this title. It's not like you're gone

570
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,079
through you one, this is yours forever and like it

571
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,599
in the vault. Yeah, it has no significance other than

572
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,559
you beat them, and it is brain rates. It's the

573
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:17,519
old Survivor series. So I think the car ended well,

574
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,759
and I agree to the second match as well. We

575
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:21,519
get there was really good, So I think it was

576
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:24,599
like a if were like if it's like a letter grade.

577
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:27,000
I think it was like a like a bee for me,

578
00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:28,839
like a solid. I was gonna say B plus, but

579
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,440
that might be too high. So it was still a

580
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,920
good show overall. I think it moved very well. The

581
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,680
main event took a little longer, but we knew it

582
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,039
was gonna go that route. But is there anything specifically

583
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,839
on the rock or the main event? Any spots as Bubbs,

584
00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:42,519
he liked Cody's salute.

585
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:47,799
Speaker 2: When he too. I thought that was really funny. Man. Yeah,

586
00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:52,640
he did the same thing that Jacob. There was like

587
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,839
a pen on the table. I was scared. It was

588
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,240
like they knocked everything off and it was like someone

589
00:26:57,319 --> 00:26:59,920
just get stabbed by this tand that's all the table.

590
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: That's how Cody goes out. Yeah, pierced by step and

591
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,519
he's out for a little bit. But no, I I

592
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,079
was I'm never a fan of Cody doing those spots

593
00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:11,039
because especially even with a cage. When he did that

594
00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:13,279
at the smack down Eyes, I was like, obviously to

595
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:15,279
do the moon so up, like man, you're tough guy, Like,

596
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:16,880
don't do it.

597
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,079
Speaker 2: He landed like bad on that one. On the going

598
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,000
off the cage.

599
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: It's like they're still gonna love you no matter what.

600
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:27,519
But yeah, and that's so for me again, where we

601
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,200
end with the rock and everything like that, I think

602
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:32,839
it was a good PAP, great pop, a good moment.

603
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,799
I wish there was an actual story built to it.

604
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,279
They're getting use more, but I still think I'm in

605
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,640
the camp of Rock and Roman at many. I don't

606
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:42,559
not that I don't want Rock and Cody. I think

607
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,400
that's maybe the direction they're gonna go, But especially with

608
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,200
Ko attack him, it's like I feel like that, like

609
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,480
there's other directions for Cody to go, And I think

610
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:53,279
there's other people. I'm not as mad, but there's tons

611
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:55,559
of Cody fans that are just kind of done with

612
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,480
him in the Bloodline stuff. They want to see it

613
00:27:57,519 --> 00:27:59,680
moved on. And I think he's always gonna be tied

614
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,559
to that though, because that's how he won the title.

615
00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:04,119
But for me, it's like the trajectory is there of

616
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,519
Cody with Ko. Fuck. I don't know if I want

617
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,200
to pitch Brandy Worreton winning a third Rubble, but hell,

618
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:11,680
haven't win a third row, like whatever it may be. Like,

619
00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:13,640
I still think you can do Cody and Randy at

620
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,079
Mania and do Rock in Rome and then like that

621
00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:20,200
that's perfectly great. Like I I'm still more in the

622
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,799
Rock and Roman camp, but uh, I don't know. I

623
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:24,279
guess we'll see where they go. I just feel like

624
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,200
Roman story is more about the blood Line where Cody's

625
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,039
gonnattack by buses by his friends, Like.

626
00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he Cody's got way of things to do

627
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:35,240
right now. You can circle back to them again Mania season,

628
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:38,720
but for right now through this winter months, once you're

629
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,880
doing your storytelling between now and Rural Rumble, take him

630
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,799
away from the blood Line. Yeah, you've had your match,

631
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,200
You've done your thing, all right, take my from the

632
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,880
blood Line. Let them do their thing and go from there.

633
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: But watch Rumble. The number three is gonna be the

634
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,279
fucking final boss. He's gonna win, and then that's how

635
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:58,640
he get Cody. And like, I still think they're gonna

636
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,720
do Cody and Rock because I feel like this patch

637
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,720
they were really not that Meltzer has been on the

638
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,839
greatest track record, but he had said like, well, they

639
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,720
now see fought to and Roman as the money match up,

640
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:12,240
and for me, in this match, it sure felt like

641
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:14,400
they were. They had a lot of face offs, they

642
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,319
had a lot of like breaking them apart on It

643
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:21,160
felt like it what the pin exactly.

644
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,119
Speaker 3: Looked strong from the outside, the ring spot coming in,

645
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,880
when he's selling the chairs back and forth, everything, they

646
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:36,440
kept him looking strong, the no selling.

647
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,039
Speaker 2: Was selling the head. I was fully expecting him when

648
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,119
he did the cross Roads on the outside. I was like,

649
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,480
he's gonna get back, and he kind of did, but

650
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:42,599
I was expecting, like.

651
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:48,319
Speaker 1: When well, the crossroads are gotta take it, hit ten,

652
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,279
hit it ten times to beat someone sometimes, but well he's.

653
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,279
Speaker 3: The disaster kick. And then he popped right back up

654
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:57,880
after getting thrown into the timekeepers area. So I mean

655
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,799
they they loved him being super strong.

656
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: And again I'm not saying Roman and Jacob would be

657
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,680
a bad match. I'm not saying it won't be like

658
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,880
a big match, but I just feel like it's odd

659
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,559
to do that before Rock and Roman. I would almost

660
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:11,960
love the reverse of that. Roman beats the Rock and

661
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,440
then Jacob and Rowan meet up and Jacob beats him

662
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,720
and it's like fuck man, Like Jacob's like, especially because

663
00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:18,920
Jake will be a round more. But I just I

664
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:22,160
feel it's odd if the WrestleMania matchup is Cody and

665
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,440
and I'm saying this is a Cody stand Cody and

666
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:27,160
Rock and then Roman and Jacob. For me, that does

667
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,200
feel like I just don't know if Roman Hogan would

668
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,359
let that happen, unless Roman just hey, I really want

669
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:34,640
to work with Jacob, Like maybe that's it. But I

670
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,160
just feel like that clearly puts you in the number

671
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,400
two spot where I feel like Cody and Randy and

672
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,359
then Rock and Roman you're both at a spots. You're

673
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:45,440
the top tier. Sorry, Punk, you're not getting the main

674
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,960
event in Wrestlming. I know that's everyone's like, that's not happening.

675
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,640
I really don't think that's happening anything. You and Seth

676
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,440
they're gonna have a great like mid card match, like

677
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,599
you could have the match of the night. But I

678
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,720
don't see that. I don't see that happening. I really

679
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:00,319
don't This year, Oh.

680
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: Punk himself, you can main event night one of a

681
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,640
four night spectacular.

682
00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: Well, yes, and I agree with him. I'm the everyone

683
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,240
can say what they want. The real main event is

684
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:11,759
Night two E seth Rol. It's gonna be like, well,

685
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:14,640
I was on an advertised main event, you still were nine.

686
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: The last match, the go home is the main events.

687
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,839
Speaker 1: Because like Romans never worked Night one, and like only right,

688
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,200
it's never just been yeah, Night one Romans wanted. It's

689
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,880
like he's always last. Cody, whoever's they chance could be

690
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,759
always last. Rock gonna be last because even Rack, okay,

691
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:32,079
he wrestled Night one, but he was back Night two

692
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,039
in the main event. So it's like and even then,

693
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:36,039
I just don't think Punk would even get Night one

694
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:38,680
right now, I feel like like he's still over his

695
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,599
ratings do super well. I just don't know the trajectory

696
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,519
of that. And we'll maybe we could talk about that.

697
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:45,279
We'll talk about the set unless you guys have anything

698
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:50,799
else to add on the main event stuff, not really, Okay,

699
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:52,599
let's talk about the cell then, So what would you

700
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400
s bubs right off the hop? Do you got a

701
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,359
number flowing around for your cell right now? Did it

702
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,240
meet your expectations? Because it's been nine months, few would

703
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920
obestee that was the big hubbut of his not main

704
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,799
eventing there Punk's Gonna Snap again and everything. But you

705
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:09,039
know that TVD. But what did you think about the

706
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:09,599
actual match?

707
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,119
Speaker 2: I love it. Like for me, this would be like

708
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:15,680
like a five star match, like a match that I

709
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,799
just like just really enjoy. Like it's a match that

710
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,759
I know if I watch it again, I'll just like

711
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:25,000
enjoy it. Let's say that's what i'd give for like

712
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:27,680
a five star match for me, Like it's a match

713
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,720
that I could watch many times and like this is

714
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:33,240
great stuff. Yeah, I thought it was. I thought it

715
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:34,960
was great and it totally delivered for me.

716
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,319
Speaker 3: Got it up there. I wouldn't go five stars, it

717
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:46,480
was good. I have in recent years, I have not

718
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,839
been as much of a fan of blood in matches,

719
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,920
mainly because I think a W in the last couple

720
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,960
of years has overused blood matches. So it's kind of.

721
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,759
Speaker 1: Tense over here.

722
00:32:56,839 --> 00:33:00,359
Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of taking no, it's just taking

723
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:01,359
some of the kick out of it.

724
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he hasn't used it in a while, like

725
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:05,160
to this extent, right.

726
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: Yes, So I think that in this match it was

727
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:10,480
used very well. And then with the ref like trying

728
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:12,519
to come in and tee them off and all this

729
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:15,839
other stuff like I think that gave subtle beats to this.

730
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,119
Then pushing the rough way like I don't need you

731
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240
to wipe my face. I just want to beat this

732
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:23,400
guy's ass, Like I don't care about this, I just

733
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,640
want to beat his Like that gave great story beats

734
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,519
to it. Man Drew took some bumps. Punk took some bumps,

735
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:34,200
and I was like, as much as he's like, I'm old,

736
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,920
I'm hurt, I'm tired, Like you're you're taking that table

737
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,559
spot like that cheese my table, like.

738
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,359
Speaker 2: Half the table didn't. Like his legs got like caught on.

739
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: The like they showed the replace from both sides. They

740
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,759
both kicked up and they're lay It's just like and

741
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,200
he just drew to lift them that way. I was

742
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,240
like that. Especially Punk in the last two years has

743
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:56,119
had multiple injuries that have made been off for like

744
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,440
six nine miles, like he's he's on spring Chicken and

745
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,559
he's had some so they he really went for in

746
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:04,079
this match. I was surprised some of the bumps he

747
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,519
was taking.

748
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: He drew on the steel steps. I liked as kind

749
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,119
of over the top as the whole I've got a

750
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:16,199
bag full of stuff spot can be. I liked it

751
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,679
in this case with the beads and everything, and him

752
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,639
just pointed on there again. It was just they were

753
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,840
these moments that they have built on that just fit

754
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:29,800
into this match, and so no, this was I wouldn't

755
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,679
say five out of five, but it delivered for what

756
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,280
it was supposed to. They both put on a hell

757
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,960
of a show and I'm like yeah, and then Punk

758
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:41,280
selling at the end of yeah, I'm old, I'm hurting.

759
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,679
I'm tired, So him collapsing out of there, He's.

760
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: Like like, yo, I had stepped out of the room,

761
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,679
and then when I came back he had. Then I

762
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,440
was like, oh god, what did I miss? I thought

763
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,119
for a second it was a shoot, and I'm like, okay,

764
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,039
no he started talking about It's like, well, my jeez.

765
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:58,800
But family later mention this, he said, what the hell?

766
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,079
Turned Kale off camera. You're gonna get it now. Granted,

767
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,360
I do think you have a point where they do

768
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,199
miss it on that pop right, that pop of the

769
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,000
moment in the ring he turns and that like, oh

770
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:11,119
my god, so you do have that. I could see

771
00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:14,199
maybe them do something. It sounds cheesy, but Kao like

772
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,559
apologized and said that he snapped and he and Cody

773
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:20,599
good guy forgives them and then Kao whether he's scheming

774
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,559
or he snaps again, I could see them do that,

775
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,320
but there is a new angle. I think it's someone

776
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,079
that's like in the production that they've posted where it's

777
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:32,559
them they taught they're just talking before and then Cody

778
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,800
says something that he points out there and then Kevin

779
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,800
was like push them the trust and then he starts

780
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,960
to punch him. So I do like, obviously there was

781
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,800
that photo, but I do like it shows that, Okay,

782
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:43,199
they had an argument or something, not that Kayo just

783
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,760
was waiting at his boss.

784
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: I was trying to find like a like a clip

785
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,800
if you could hear them, but obviously, like no one's

786
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,880
close enough to really see with it. And then there

787
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,840
were people going around tweeting like Kao hit him with

788
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,320
his car, but I think it was like one person

789
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,760
saw the car parked in him like attack him, so

790
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,880
they wrote like he hit him with his car, started

791
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,360
attacking him, and then other people changed it to like

792
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,559
like hit Cody with the car. Like people started like

793
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,840
taking stuff from.

794
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,679
Speaker 1: Turn she running over Stone cold and attitude there to

795
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,679
take him out. But yeah, and I the audio of

796
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:17,719
that clip I watched, you just hear the crowd like

797
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,920
it's too loud and everything. But they'll have something.

798
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of.

799
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,079
Speaker 3: Those they're gonna release it. You could see in the

800
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:28,400
reflection of the bus there is the camera with the

801
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,920
light there. So this is obviously film that it's gonna

802
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:37,079
be released tomorrow Darren rawl or something like hey, look

803
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:42,119
what happened stays, Yes, stay tuned and find out more

804
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,599
on Friday, Like they're gonna drop something.

805
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:50,079
Speaker 2: They could do like show the fan footage like this

806
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:53,280
happened after the show and then on SmackDown they have

807
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,639
like the like the actual close.

808
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: Up of our documentary team was behind the scenes, and

809
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,440
they can show you this Fries macdown. Yeah, I know.

810
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:03,639
I think they'll do that. So that's interesting. It's gonna

811
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:05,519
be fun. But no, I think with us Bubbs on

812
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:08,039
the on the five, I think I was there. I've

813
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:10,440
been bitch and a moan in the last two times,

814
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,239
like I hate that both matches at Shenanigans, I didn't

815
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,719
need the the whatever the god what was strap match?

816
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,880
And I hated, not hated, but I thoroughly disliked Seth

817
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,039
as the referee for the first match. I thought there

818
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,440
was always just some sort of gimmick that held them

819
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,159
back from having a classic, and I thought this was great.

820
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,159
There were spots they were doing that either I haven't

821
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:32,239
seen in w or haven't seen a long time, Like

822
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,119
just Punk take it was brutal, but when he took

823
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:37,360
that table leg and I literally thought McIntire like was

824
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,519
gonna fucking lose an eye, Like he was so close

825
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:43,159
to it, but when coming he had a whole bruise

826
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:46,840
on his head after And just stuff like McIntyre supplexing

827
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,119
Punk on a table that's just down with the legs

828
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,119
facing up that suplex spot the beads, which is funny

829
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:54,599
because everyone thought was tax But that was good stuff.

830
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:57,320
So No, for me, I think they have great chemistry.

831
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,480
I would not be imposed to them running this back

832
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,119
in the future. Sure, I still think Drew should have

833
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:04,159
won the series. I still think he should have won

834
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:06,920
the two and then Punk at this one. But alas

835
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,360
I'll see it sounds like Punk's probably onto Guther, which

836
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,280
will be an interesting thing. We'll talk about Guther again

837
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,079
later and oh god, the possibility thing they tease with him.

838
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,719
But no, I. I guess that's the thing. Yeah, I

839
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,239
definitely understand where the blood comes from because they you know,

840
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,559
Cody and Dustin brought it back and then after that

841
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:26,000
it's like, oh, look at the emotion they got from

842
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:28,440
that match, we should all use blood. It's like, no,

843
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:30,639
like the blood added to it, but there was more

844
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,719
layers to it. And I guess because it's n W,

845
00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:34,960
it's happy to see how much Drew was bleeding like

846
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,960
a m that or there. I'm not sure if it what.

847
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:38,559
I don't know if it was a pack or I

848
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:40,360
don't know if he was actual cut because it kept

849
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,239
coming since I don't know if I didn't think it

850
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,000
was a pack, I think they did some blade in

851
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:44,400
his hair.

852
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:48,599
Speaker 2: But yeah, the supposed report is that like triple aches

853
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:52,639
and when people like they said like poke the blade,

854
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,400
like like in the cage match with Cody and Solo,

855
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:00,480
like when Cody was bleeding right after saying like the

856
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,760
turn buckle, they said, like the let people like poke

857
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:05,440
the blade just to get like a little bit. But

858
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,000
apparently like he like Cody Drew and punk like like

859
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:12,039
fully blade for the smatch.

860
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: Oh well, you definitely what happened that could make sense

861
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,119
and you gotta just go look at the punk all

862
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:19,360
in footage when he's under that table and he'll he'll

863
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,239
fucking stab himself. Man, he didn't care like.

864
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: Jack Bert. It's like the footage of Ko after uh.

865
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: Oh no. But no, I I think this was a

866
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,360
great ending. I'm very curious what they're gonna do with

867
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,519
Drew because he's won the world title, then he lost it,

868
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:42,599
he won myny like he's he's done all this stuff

869
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:45,960
where I really don't know what there is not left

870
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,440
for him that I could say. I think he's the

871
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,159
hottest and he's ever been, but I just don't know

872
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:51,719
the trajectory of him. I actually could see him like

873
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,719
taking some time off and being gone for like a

874
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,920
month or two just to like freshen up, and that's

875
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,519
a big deal. And Drew McIntyre comes back, I don't

876
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:00,760
know if you can't really good there again. And I

877
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:02,800
think Goother is gonna have that title for a while.

878
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,239
So I really I really don't know. And obviously Punk

879
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,840
through like I said, we said, there's rumors a goot

880
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,559
there so and he'll be in the REALND. Well then

881
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:11,280
they'll eventually get us as sets. So punk, like I Punk.

882
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,000
I can see his story from November to Mania, like

883
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:16,440
we got that clear, Drew. I hope he just doesn't

884
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,639
get lost in the shuffle. I hope they always find

885
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,760
a place for him. But ye know, I thought this

886
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,760
was a great match, great feud ender. I'm still wanting

887
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,920
to see Seph versus Punk versus Drew in the three way.

888
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,280
I think there's lots of potential there. But I think

889
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,159
they did lots of cool spots. That spot where McIntyre's

890
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,000
going for the claymoar and he's supposed to land the

891
00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:40,239
steps he did, but he hit the corner, oh my god,

892
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,039
because he did not mean to hit that corner.

893
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: He was definitely going to or I forget into but

894
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,920
like definitely done that steel steps and like plans on

895
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,280
his back with the Yeah. I think he did it

896
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:57,280
with a Russell Mania against Okay, Yeah it was on

897
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,480
the table though, right, Like he's done that spot where

898
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,800
he like overshoots and lands on his back.

899
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:08,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's gonna some bruise stuff in. So that's

900
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,760
the thing. I guess for me, why I'm happy about

901
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,679
it and it with the blood everything is because Helma

902
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,679
Cell did Punk talked about It's like used to mean something,

903
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:18,239
and once Helen Cell pay review start, it hasn't been

904
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,519
something for a long time. I think the last great

905
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:25,440
Cell match was Ambrose aka Moxley and Rawlins. That was

906
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,360
the last time they did some stuff. But even then

907
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,840
they couldn't. That was more like a stunt show. They

908
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,920
couldn't do the violence, but they wanted to do like, oh,

909
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:34,920
what do we do about this? And here's a different

910
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,280
way to do a storyline. It done, here's a spot here.

911
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,119
But since then, Helen Cell's just like a bigger cage.

912
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:43,039
So Helma Cell should be a fewd Internet should be this.

913
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:44,719
I'm not saying that everybody needs a bleed, but they

914
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,679
should be busted it out here. So I thought they

915
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,719
delivered big time, and yeah, for me, this would be

916
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,840
a five star one. I don't think it's like the

917
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,000
greatest Cell match ever, but it is. I'd have to

918
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:57,800
because at one point I had a ranking I could

919
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,719
see myself. It's probably in the top ten, more near

920
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,880
the bottom. But still it was like, I thought they

921
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:05,400
fully delivered here and told a great story. I loved

922
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,119
the spot where Drew was pretending to pray and then

923
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:10,280
he low blowed him and I actually thought when he

924
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,039
low blowed him and then hit like the claymore, I

925
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:13,760
thought it was actually over. I'm like, oh fuck, Like

926
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:16,400
they're gonna have Drew win this and that's gonna be interesting.

927
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,440
But no, I great, great job, especially for Punk being

928
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,480
injured as long as he was. Man, they did a

929
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,039
good job. But now keep him away for a little bit,

930
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:28,400
keep him away for at least six months. I say

931
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,960
they at least at least for you know, maybe they'll

932
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,280
stare each other down the Rumble. I'll accept that. Do

933
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,920
have a brumble stare down, sure, but I don't need

934
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,199
no raw matches or tag team matches or anything like that.

935
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,360
So I think even then Drew and Seth have unfinished

936
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,840
business like run that back maybe? So yeah, yeah, anything

937
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,920
else on the picture here? Do you guys have any

938
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,840
theories where Drew? I said, I don't know. Do you

939
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,199
guys have anything where Drew was going or same thing?

940
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,679
You're kind of up and there on him. Yeah, I'm

941
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,400
gonna go away for a while. Yeah break Yeah, yeah,

942
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,639
you know what take because what is it? It's where

943
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,960
I was gonna say to Rumble because rumbles in February.

944
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,519
That's probably way too long, I thought, all, he could

945
00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:13,039
return Rumble, but yeah, maybe he'll return the bill up

946
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:16,519
to Rumble and I'm going to win the Rumble and

947
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,880
and get to.

948
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: Feel like come back at like the Netflix raw.

949
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah he could. He's Johnson his first opponent, you know,

950
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,360
I mean would actually see nothing.

951
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: I mean like a like a like if you do

952
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,400
that as like a first man, like that's a big match,

953
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,360
but it's not like, yeah, it's like a dream match

954
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,159
per se. But it's like this would be like a

955
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,400
like a good good scene match there.

956
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: It's not a dream match, but it's something of like

957
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,760
the second I heard it him like oh I want

958
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,639
to see that. I want to see those promos too.

959
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: I feel like I can, I can. I can already

960
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,880
imagine him like to go for the Claymar worse so

961
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,199
you know, pick some up for the for the AA

962
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,639
yeah from the corner.

963
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like that's one where I could see anybody

964
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:01,400
winning that. It's not like the theory thing where like

965
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,360
if McIntyre beats Sena, that doesn't hurt Seno. McIntire's a

966
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,199
fucking beasts right now, and if Sena beats him, it's like,

967
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,440
well it's on the farewell run. This was two months ago,

968
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,079
McIntire said, because I looked they've never wrestled, even when

969
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:13,960
he was like the chosen one. I don't know if

970
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,159
I'm figuring into plans by guarantee you, I'll be pushing

971
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:17,599
and I'll be nudging them left and right to make

972
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:19,400
it happen. Because the amount of stories I've got about

973
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,920
punk and things that happened when I was younger, I've

974
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,639
got tenfold on him. Oh fuck, I love that. That's

975
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:29,679
cool already. So yeah, I'm you know what I'd be

976
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,119
down if that was like Sina's first two that's a

977
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:34,360
great Netflix match. May have been a raw on Netflix.

978
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,880
Sena McIntyre absolutely book that that's do it. So uh,

979
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:42,679
next we had, uh Nijacks was Bailey, which I do

980
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,599
have to agree I was bugging a SPUs, but I

981
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:47,760
fully agree that I have to admit it that unfortunately

982
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,880
Nijacks is good now like she she she is she

983
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,079
she is dah because like I suppose you were on

984
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:55,519
the Round the Air where she was not only a

985
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:58,719
bad wrestler, but she just hurt people costly like it

986
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,840
was and it just felt like a very like and

987
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,440
I don't know, I don't know the one backstage. It

988
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:05,039
was just the amount of times that gelt happening. It

989
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:07,639
felt like, Okay, you don't give a shit about really

990
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,679
what's going on, whether it's just because of who you are.

991
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,880
And I do think her getting released and coming back

992
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,480
has helped, and tonight this was a really really good match.

993
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:17,199
That's why I send the discord. I was kind of

994
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:19,039
pissed when people are chanting for Tiffy. I was like,

995
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,519
Bailey and Nia Jacks are delayed, Like to me, they're

996
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:23,639
giving you like for It was to me like a

997
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,440
four star up until the ending. I think they dropped

998
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,119
down to three point seventy five because it's like Shenanigans

999
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:31,039
and everything, so that's where I am. I got three

1000
00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:34,119
point seventy five. But I thought they've always had good chemistry,

1001
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:35,800
but this was maybe one of their best outings. I

1002
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,280
liked it better than the Summer Slam match. There's some here.

1003
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,199
I love the spots that are going for ny Is

1004
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,519
trying to fucking hur Rock.

1005
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,119
Speaker 2: I think the crowd was more into this than the

1006
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:46,719
Summer Slam match because there.

1007
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,599
Speaker 1: But then they didn't they started chanting for Tiffy. I

1008
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:49,360
was like, oh, I was.

1009
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: Gonna say best Summery. Well kind of the same thing

1010
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,880
because the Summer Slime match was like the crowd was

1011
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,840
like dead for it until Bailey did the power bomb. Yesnile,

1012
00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:05,079
but then they go down and then Tiffany's music immediately right, yeah, yeah,

1013
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,199
like they that's why they're both down, and then she

1014
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:08,840
came out.

1015
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will say that they chant Tivy, but

1016
00:46:11,559 --> 00:46:13,760
they were with the crowd, like you said, yeah.

1017
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 2: People saying it was like a like a bad crowd,

1018
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,719
like they were like they chanted for Tific for like

1019
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,159
a little bit, but then they're definitely into it.

1020
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:24,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, And No, I I thought this was a really

1021
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:26,360
really good match. Bailey, you know, can have a good

1022
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,519
match with a broomstick, but it just was something higher up.

1023
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:31,679
And I did, like, I do like what they're doing

1024
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:33,800
with Tiffy. That's what I was pitching, where you're gonna

1025
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,920
have a few more months of you know, her and

1026
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,639
I and eventually it's gonna happen. But No, I thought

1027
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:41,960
they they really delivered here. I think I has maybe

1028
00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:45,880
one more pay per view defense and then which that's

1029
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,400
what I didn't buy. It was on SmackDown, Bailey was

1030
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,239
talking about her being like Guthu like you're gonna be

1031
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,400
one of the most dominant ones champion. And then tonight

1032
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,400
the graphic was like second title defense. I was like, okay,

1033
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:58,199
like she just won it. Like it's like it's not

1034
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,039
like they only say it because bigger and that's fine,

1035
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:03,480
but it's like, just have her have those wins. But no,

1036
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:07,199
I think either it's the next defense and then it's

1037
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:11,840
the cash and or is like Drew, like she defends

1038
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,320
it than the one after, Like I think she only

1039
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,079
has one more successful defense in there. It could be

1040
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:19,000
a triple threat. I think there is something really fun

1041
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,880
if they do a triple threat and Tiffy pins someone

1042
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,960
else to get the belt and not Naya. I think

1043
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,719
that would make Nia so pissed off. So I think

1044
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,760
it's I'll say before twenty twenty five, that's my prediction

1045
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,320
with Tiffy.

1046
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,039
Speaker 3: So that means either war Games or Saturday Night's main event.

1047
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: Pitch Yeah, I pitched that last gimmick. I want happen

1048
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:47,360
in the match. I want Nia to be down. She

1049
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,960
goes to a table and Tiffy's like, holy fuck, and

1050
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,000
then she pins him in the wargame match still has

1051
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:54,360
to go on and they're down. Its like, I hope

1052
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,159
it's war games. I think that's would be.

1053
00:47:56,679 --> 00:48:01,679
Speaker 2: It has to be on like opposite teams though right now.

1054
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: Have the same team as long as she's another ref, right,

1055
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,280
like yeah, and the ref runs down, or even then

1056
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,840
she doesn't need another ref because tonight.

1057
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,519
Speaker 3: Technically the match doesn't start until everyone's in, so there

1058
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:17,679
could be some fighting. The match hasn't officially started yet

1059
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:20,639
because the last person's not in yet. Now it could

1060
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:23,480
go down. She can cash in before the match ever

1061
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:25,039
technically starts.

1062
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, she could.

1063
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,119
Speaker 2: And I remember on on like the Survivors series stream

1064
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,719
where you watch and you're thinking, like, if Randy never

1065
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,679
comes out, does this match definitely something like you could

1066
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,719
start the match earlier by using the money in the

1067
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,159
bank and then like, yeah, that'd be definitely interesting.

1068
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: I always thought they had to have their own referee,

1069
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,400
but tonight they she didn't because she was gonna give

1070
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,199
it to the one referee THO was in there. So

1071
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,239
I just think it's like, there's only so many things

1072
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,119
you can do with the money bank brief face at

1073
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:01,320
our first time ers that is the first time or

1074
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,119
like the only other one I thought would be fun,

1075
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:05,320
but you can never do it is somehow get Like

1076
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,440
imagine Nia says, Hey, I'm gonna go in the rumble

1077
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:10,320
because I want to go and beat like I want

1078
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,920
to have. Let's say she beats her. Here's my second pitch.

1079
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,760
She beats Livit Saudi and she gets the fucking forty carriage.

1080
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,440
She's like, you know what, I want to be aspute champion.

1081
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,920
I'm gonna go in the rumble and do that. Could

1082
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,599
you imagine if somehow they had a money make cash

1083
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:26,559
in the middle of the Royal Rumble, like I think.

1084
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: For the winner wins the championship.

1085
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, then it's just like, yeah, but I just

1086
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,880
think war games. But yeah, you're right, David. Saturday Night's

1087
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,559
main event is another good option to because I think

1088
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:42,800
they're gonna load that show up, so yeah.

1089
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:46,559
Speaker 3: You for as important as that's gonna be, you gotta

1090
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:48,320
load that show up with something so I can see

1091
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,840
it there. I will say this, Tiffy has been great,

1092
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:55,119
like amazing with her facial expressions when it comes to

1093
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:57,199
the cash is the almost cash in is the getting

1094
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,960
caught like her. Her whole style with that has just

1095
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:05,480
been amazing. So I'm here for her for facial expressions.

1096
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:07,920
I'm here for the way that she just heals it

1097
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:12,159
up with that, Like, kudos to Tiffy for doing that.

1098
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think the actual match?

1099
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:20,519
Speaker 3: Actual match? Again, like you said Bailey could make a

1100
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:23,199
mop have a good match, Like she's just that good.

1101
00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:28,320
I have been streaming the Horn of Nia's gotten better.

1102
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:31,599
She had an interview on the pre show where she

1103
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:34,880
even said, hey, when I got let go, that gave

1104
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,199
me time to figure out who Naya Jacks was and

1105
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,559
come back as the best version of Nia Jacks. And

1106
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:45,000
she is consistently proven that she has put thought and

1107
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:48,480
care into her craft and she has gotten so much better,

1108
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:52,239
and she's putting on the matches that show it. The

1109
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,960
way she lifted for Bailey on that Samoan drop spot,

1110
00:50:57,199 --> 00:50:59,800
I was like, you know, they were just working in

1111
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:03,039
hand them like everything about this Like that's not the

1112
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,840
Nia of Oh, She's she's putting on good ones. So

1113
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,920
she does want to hold that belt until roll rubble.

1114
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,719
Like I wouldn't be mad at it because the character

1115
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,599
work and now the ring work are all there.

1116
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,639
Speaker 2: Charlotte still needs to win it.

1117
00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: By the end of the year, they are of that

1118
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,639
whole queen thing. And that's one thing where I could see.

1119
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,960
I don't know, I thought they said Charlotte maybe is

1120
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,960
not as close as they thought, but I could see

1121
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,079
that being where Tiffy Cash is in when and we

1122
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:36,239
get Charlotte and Naya and it's like not, you know,

1123
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,320
because it's tough because I do think Tiffy. One of

1124
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,360
Tiffany's defense will be against Naya. I think they'll have

1125
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,440
like a full on match. But we're definitely getting Nigh

1126
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,119
and Charlotte soon and hopefully it doesn't lead to another

1127
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:53,519
shoot just face palmbing incident, which was one of the

1128
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:59,760
weirdest that era was so weird between that between Charlotte Charlotte.

1129
00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:02,920
Oh yeah, that year in Sharrett's career, she was on

1130
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,000
a fucking like if you fucking pissed me off, I'm

1131
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,239
I'm giving it to you. You know, I don't think

1132
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,840
it's the case anymore. And everyone goes to that, like fuck,

1133
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,960
Bunk's gone to that multiple times, right, But it's just

1134
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,719
it's funny. But I think we're getting especially the queen stuff, right.

1135
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,280
They're really emphasizing the bat on the queen everything and

1136
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:22,000
who's the queen a ww, it's gonna be Charlotte. So

1137
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:24,039
I feel like I don't know, but I just don't

1138
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:25,519
know the timetable on Charlotte right now.

1139
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: So oh yes, Bubs about the match, Yeah, yeah, I

1140
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,079
really enjoy toally, I said, I thought it was a

1141
00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:37,679
lot of fun, and I did like their Summer Slam match,

1142
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,320
but yeah, definitely, like with the crowd not being that

1143
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,480
much into it, they kind of just brought it down.

1144
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:46,000
But I was excited for this one and it ended

1145
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,199
up delivering, Like you said, yeah, that's someone in drop

1146
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,599
spot really good and like it happened so quickly. You're

1147
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:54,280
just like, wow, I can't believe. I can't believe they

1148
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,480
did that. And yeah, they did some cool stuff when

1149
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,480
n is like throwing Bailey against the barricade, like some

1150
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:04,320
of those were like oh really hard, like they pushed

1151
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,960
the whole barricade like back towards the audience.

1152
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:10,559
Speaker 1: Someone the steps too. I was like, geez, Louise, like

1153
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:12,360
they're busting out some big moves here.

1154
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she did. She did her can run on

1155
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,119
on Bailey.

1156
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then then you had Michael colenkirk Raves like

1157
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,880
trying to like they're like, oh, like they had like

1158
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,440
a conversation. It's like les around her like that's a

1159
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,519
hur I get what she was.

1160
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: Doing, but I did get confused by the same thing

1161
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,960
they did on like the second one where it looked

1162
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,719
like from the camrangle they were showing it on, which

1163
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,440
is the same one, like they would have seemed like

1164
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,039
on the monitors, it looked like Bailey had like reversed

1165
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:43,079
some move and like brought her down on it. But

1166
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:45,920
then it ended up being like a Samoan drop it was,

1167
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,840
And then from that camerangle it didn't like you didn't

1168
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,639
really see ny I do it, which was weird. But

1169
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:53,719
and yeah, they were confused because they're like, oh, Bailey

1170
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,119
like took her down and then I just like pinsert.

1171
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,679
But yeah, I thought the whole Mattress grade was really

1172
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,440
fun match. I don't know how long it actually was.

1173
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:03,559
I'd have to look that up.

1174
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: All Meltzer has somewhere he loves his time.

1175
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,119
Speaker 2: So but yeah, Drop Kicked has the US the times

1176
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:10,880
and there you go.

1177
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,599
Speaker 1: But yeah, and the same thing with Bailey. I'm interested

1178
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:18,920
to see where she goes because obviously with the tag division,

1179
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,199
I think they're doing Piper and Chelsea. Well it's tough.

1180
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,920
I feel like what I like about with the tag

1181
00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:27,519
and okay, here's the other thing. I know there was

1182
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:30,320
another debate about this, but the host of Bad Blood whatever,

1183
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:32,599
that was pointless. You didn't even need them there. But

1184
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,880
cool you got Naomi and Bianca and Jade on the card,

1185
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,599
which I found interesting. Another thing i'd say, you know,

1186
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:40,920
minor note. I don't like when they're all in the ring,

1187
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,800
they're playing Jade's music, not Beyonca's. It's like, okay, Bianca's

1188
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,280
still like she's still to me, Like the second I

1189
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,360
think they think they.

1190
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: Used Jades because it doesn't have lyrics. Yeah, just like

1191
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:52,960
background music.

1192
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so so like for the entrance.

1193
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 2: But then when they win they use Jades like if

1194
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,880
they're just like in a segment change, it is just

1195
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,920
like the cool guitar, like electric guitar. It's like if

1196
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,480
they're talking over it, then it's not like mixing. I

1197
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,760
think that's why they're doing it.

1198
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,159
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give them bulgaan then, but yeah, they didn't

1199
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:17,440
do much, but I will give them credit. That seems

1200
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,480
like they have two storylines going on right now because

1201
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,159
they have the stuff with damage control, and to me,

1202
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:23,880
they set up that Piper and Chelsea could also be

1203
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,440
like contenders coming up here as a tag team, which

1204
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,360
they haven't really. I don't think they've delvin too much.

1205
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,320
Like I think there's a good Chelsea. I wouldn't even

1206
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,280
mind if that would be the team that would beat them.

1207
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,639
It might be damage controlled, like Chelsea and Piper is

1208
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,760
like a full tag team. I think there's lots of

1209
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:39,400
potential there.

1210
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,639
Speaker 2: I mean they were tag team champions for like three

1211
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,760
or four months.

1212
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: Oh right, I fucking forgot about that, Spoz I totally.

1213
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:48,760
That's when I was not watching full time again. So

1214
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,280
that's why I'm saying in the back of my might

1215
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,000
be I forgot, Oh it was a thing.

1216
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're Piper like never never actually won the like

1217
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:58,000
the it was like.

1218
00:55:58,159 --> 00:55:59,159
Speaker 1: Did you get injured?

1219
00:55:59,239 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: Right?

1220
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: No, Chelsea won the titles with car with who was

1221
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,840
it like she had a bunch of different tag team parts.

1222
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,840
I think it was something to Ville that was on

1223
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,719
it with Yeah, and then she got injured and then

1224
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,239
Piper just like ran up to her and said like

1225
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:20,320
I'm your partner now and then and then the storyline

1226
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,239
was sort of like like slowly over time Piper became

1227
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,039
more like Chelsea until now they're both like Fashionable and

1228
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:31,840
friends and that's the story. So now they're an actual

1229
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,639
tag team. But yeah, they were taxing champions for like

1230
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:39,440
a while. I think they lost it to like the

1231
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,679
the Casey's the Party Girls, and then they lost it

1232
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,880
to the the Kabuki Warriors.

1233
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:51,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see. But yeah, the WST thing didn't

1234
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,880
go anywhere. But yeah, then we got Damien versus Finn

1235
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,079
Balor in a match that I I liked it, but

1236
00:56:58,159 --> 00:56:59,960
I thought, I think we talked about this the last

1237
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:02,440
skimmick with all this could be a really really good match.

1238
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,719
I think it was just good for me. I think

1239
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,000
the problem for me not that this sounds like an insult,

1240
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,559
but it just felt like a raw main event, where

1241
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:13,119
to me, there's like pay per view matches and there's

1242
00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:14,840
like raw main events where they can still be really

1243
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,880
good but sometimes they still have a cadence. I'm not giving

1244
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,599
way too much. This almost felt like they were gonna

1245
00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:22,199
do more, and I don't know. It's almost like the

1246
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:24,639
tag match where it never clicked into they both kicked

1247
00:57:24,679 --> 00:57:26,519
out of each other finishers, and I don't even need

1248
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:28,079
that to be like oh to make it good. I

1249
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:30,880
just mean, like, I think they were trying. Maybe this

1250
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,039
is one where I just wish they had God, who

1251
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:37,280
is it? Nick All is just say kay or no

1252
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,639
Adam Pierce. Sorry fuck, I'm mixing them up. I just

1253
00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:41,840
wish they had Adam for say hey for this one.

1254
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:45,599
Judgment Days banned from ringside. We already got damb banned

1255
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:47,559
in one match. We're gonna ban him here because it

1256
00:57:47,679 --> 00:57:50,960
just turned into the regular Okay, somebody comes in, big boots,

1257
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,880
somebody comes in clothesline. Oh, they hit Damien close spin. Oh,

1258
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,159
Damien throws them over the top rope, that hit each other.

1259
00:57:56,199 --> 00:57:58,840
It just feels like what we've seen over and over

1260
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,880
Judgment Day. So I think that kind of stopped it

1261
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,280
from being, uh like a higher tier match. I will

1262
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,199
say that they did convince me for a second that

1263
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:08,400
Finn was gonna win when he hit those like three

1264
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,599
coup de grass and row. I'm like, man, it's like

1265
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,519
and I was actually kind of hoping for it because

1266
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:13,360
like Finn.

1267
00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:16,719
Speaker 2: As this podcast was winning a match.

1268
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: Well, that's her second I did. But just like I

1269
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,400
said this in the discord, so this is just for

1270
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,360
the listeners, but Emily, my wife, we she used to

1271
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,079
watch wrestling like all the time, and then when W

1272
00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:29,159
got bad, she fucking bowed out early before me, and

1273
00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:31,199
then and then I bowed and then she and then

1274
00:58:31,199 --> 00:58:33,079
she still goes like we went to a W last year,

1275
00:58:33,519 --> 00:58:34,920
so she still likes it, but she's at to be

1276
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,280
a casualist now and he hasn't even seeing him come

1277
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,559
down with the mask. She's like, man, I missed the

1278
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:42,199
old thing, Palor, and it's like, that's just what I want.

1279
00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:45,960
My hope is we do the judgment day Wyatt six feud.

1280
00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:49,280
They lose that and Finn turns face and we get

1281
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,559
the he needs to be the fucking demon character again.

1282
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,119
He needs something because this Finn Bala the backstopper baler like,

1283
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,840
I don't know so, but my main point is the

1284
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,800
match I think was just good. When I actually thought,

1285
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:02,480
I thought it could have been like a four, and

1286
00:59:02,519 --> 00:59:05,239
I think this was like a I don't know, somewhere

1287
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,519
like a three three point five, Like the three is

1288
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:09,960
probably too low, but like three point five even fields

1289
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,119
too high, so I don't know. Something was it was

1290
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:15,079
didn't click as well as I thought it was gonna.

1291
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: It was my most disappointing match just for what I

1292
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,719
felt like they could have done and then it was

1293
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,760
very paint by numbers. Yeah, this felt like a raw match,

1294
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,880
just felt like we're just progressing the Judgment Day storyline.

1295
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:35,360
It didn't feel like, I know, Damien said afterwards he's

1296
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,840
done with the Judgment Day and all this other stuff. Now,

1297
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,920
Like this didn't feel like a I'm done with you match.

1298
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,719
We just felt like I'll see you next week type deal, Like.

1299
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: Where was the emotion? That's what I wanted. These guys

1300
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,719
have been together for how long and it's such a

1301
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,559
big deal, like I wanted. I know there's other emotional

1302
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:55,719
feuds on the car, but that's what I wanted, was

1303
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,159
some just just like some closure to it. I just

1304
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:01,400
felt like Damian w a Number one contendership and he's

1305
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:06,480
onto something else. It's just it's yeah, yeah.

1306
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: For me, this was like this wasn't even a raw

1307
01:00:09,559 --> 01:00:11,800
main of that match. This is like this is like

1308
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:18,559
a raw like like yeah, like three commercial breaks match real,

1309
01:00:18,599 --> 01:00:21,239
they do two minutes of wrestling in the team. I

1310
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,800
didn't like this match, especially because I like Damiens so much.

1311
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,639
This match is just like a super disappointment for me.

1312
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,400
Before smatch, I didn't write it down anywhere, but I

1313
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,360
was like, big match. Damien his thing he does. He

1314
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,519
does the Hurricane rona if it's a if it's an

1315
01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:40,440
important match, it's just like, oh, he's so tall and

1316
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,079
he's doing it, and he didn't even do it in

1317
01:00:42,159 --> 01:00:45,320
this match. So it's like they didn't This wasn't gonna

1318
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,480
be a top tier a Damien pre smatch. And yeah,

1319
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:53,639
I didn't really like this matches, Like I didn't enjoy

1320
01:00:53,679 --> 01:00:56,599
it really for me, it's like a two star match.

1321
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: Oh man, I fail. Wow, that's that's tough. So yeah,

1322
01:01:00,239 --> 01:01:02,719
not fans of it here. So yeah, I don't know

1323
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,639
if they do it again. I could see them doing

1324
01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:06,519
some sort of street fight for like a raw main

1325
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:08,800
and then or something. Raw is two hours, So I,

1326
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,559
like I said, I hope they move on. I hope

1327
01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:14,039
the Wyatt six and Judgment Day Day their stuff. Same

1328
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:17,199
thing with Damien. I don't know what's next for him

1329
01:01:17,199 --> 01:01:19,440
because if Punk is next, I still thought there's like

1330
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,599
a Gunther Damien rematch that could happen, that could be

1331
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:25,360
even that rumble, But I just feel like there's still

1332
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,760
some stuff to do there. They could put them in

1333
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,280
the rumble. I guess they get a good shout, like showing,

1334
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,039
but I could see unfortunately, uh, some more Finn and

1335
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:36,679
Damien matches. I think there. I actually don't think it's

1336
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,800
the last one because it's just we're in that tough

1337
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,360
period of because again, who's even Icy Champ right now?

1338
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,159
Like Jay, you're not going after j Like if it

1339
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:47,000
was Braun, I'd say, Okay, I guess see Brawn and

1340
01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:48,960
Dame or something. But I don't know. I think it's

1341
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,159
gonna be more blood feuds with Finn for a little bit.

1342
01:01:52,159 --> 01:01:54,039
And maybe he won't even be on the Survivor series

1343
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:56,480
card if they keep it to like five or six matches.

1344
01:01:56,559 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: So I don't know that's you know, that's Finn versus

1345
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,559
Damien on like a street fight that is like the

1346
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,039
raw main event for the go home to Survivor.

1347
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely right, yeah, And that's why I think it's gonna

1348
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,280
happen because and and you know what, there, I guess

1349
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,559
I will take it back where I said, I don't

1350
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:19,840
know if we did need that, maybe I'll say I'll

1351
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,320
give them a chance because I think they could have

1352
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,639
something great and there could be some emotion and maybe

1353
01:02:24,639 --> 01:02:26,679
they were saving it and they like, okay, let's wait

1354
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,119
for when we get the spotlight so who knows, and

1355
01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:32,440
then finishing off the card here and then we'll talk

1356
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,639
about the historic announcement. But the time of Judgment Day

1357
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:40,639
we got rear Ripley versus liv Morgan. So so this

1358
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,440
is an interesting match like all around. For me, I

1359
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:48,039
got the result that I wanted a man, and I

1360
01:02:48,199 --> 01:02:50,559
not feel good about it. And I also thought it

1361
01:02:50,639 --> 01:02:52,639
was interesting because I feel like they had in the

1362
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,280
takeaway the ending. I feel like in the middle portion

1363
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,960
I was really enjoying their match where even like like

1364
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,480
like live found a way to get out of the

1365
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:02,639
boldliness and like she was working over the leg and

1366
01:03:02,639 --> 01:03:04,719
I thought there's some good back and forth. But the

1367
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,719
beginning there is a lot of okay Livez running around,

1368
01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:09,760
it's just redominates. And then even before the ending ending,

1369
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,320
there's a lot of like doms getting out of the

1370
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,880
cage and we're doing the pinata thing. And why I

1371
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,960
didn't like the pinnata thing is to me that felt

1372
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:19,280
too much like Ria a couple of times has punched

1373
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,719
them or clothesline them. But to me, I still think

1374
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,039
like save like her really hurting them for a big pop,

1375
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,199
And for me, the pinata thing was almost like, oh,

1376
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:29,599
this is like you're kind of spoiling the big pop.

1377
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:32,800
I've said this many times. My vision is WrestleMania eight

1378
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,840
thousand plus. She rips tight them and that crowd goes

1379
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,440
fucking wild. But I feel like they're kind of spoiling

1380
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,480
it a little. And now I think with this finish,

1381
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:44,119
I think obviously it was a mistake, but man, that

1382
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,119
really you could just feel the air go out of it.

1383
01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:52,119
Speaker 2: And share screen here to share my reaction to this finish.

1384
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely so. But yeah, if you can't share a screen,

1385
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,840
it might be somewhere you get to like ask permission

1386
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:01,719
or something.

1387
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 2: Lazy if it works.

1388
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:06,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, so the match for me overall, I thought

1389
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,159
was was good, but.

1390
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: I see this was my my reaction here here now exactly.

1391
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's and that's for the finish. That's for

1392
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:23,880
Raquel come back. But I think for me it's like

1393
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,719
the their SummerSlam match to me was definitely better, especially

1394
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,440
because they had Ria like hurt. But this felt like

1395
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,280
it's just had too many bells and whistles to be

1396
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:36,960
really good and finish. Don't know who screwed up referee Raquel,

1397
01:04:37,079 --> 01:04:39,920
but what a what a stinker and whoever booked that

1398
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,760
they should have a talking to super overbooked. I get

1399
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,159
what they're going for, right, Dom's OPINIONA, the ref's gonna

1400
01:04:46,199 --> 01:04:48,599
go stop it, and then behind, well, the ref's not looking,

1401
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,079
Quel's gonna attack. She either came too fast or the

1402
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:55,320
ref was late, but either way, like you could avoid

1403
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,480
that all by the ref goes to check and he

1404
01:04:58,519 --> 01:05:00,800
gets bumped by Riha and he's down for or thirty

1405
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,199
seconds than Raquel does. Like I know they don't want

1406
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:06,039
to do the oh a classic ref bump. Sometimes that's

1407
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:08,000
the easiest way to go. You would have avoid this

1408
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:10,519
because now because I suppose I saw you saying on Twitter,

1409
01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:13,280
it's the same thing where my pitch was, Okay, live

1410
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,719
wins and there's no reason for Red to get a rematch.

1411
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,760
She's lost, like clean but not really clean. But she's

1412
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,719
like she's lost twice. So that's why it's like the

1413
01:05:20,719 --> 01:05:23,119
only way is in a few months she wins the rumble,

1414
01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:26,280
you reunite that feud we've talked about before, Like Bionca

1415
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,480
and Jade's gonna do their thing. It's probably Sharon and Tiffany.

1416
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:31,320
There's nobody I know. People keep trying to pitch Rheia

1417
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,000
and EO WrestleMania. It's not happening. That's not happening. They're

1418
01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:37,760
both babyfaces. I'm down for the match. It's happened to

1419
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,719
xt that's not happening. So to me, the only trajectory

1420
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,840
is Rheian Live with Rihea getting the last laugh, the

1421
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,880
final win. And now it's that they're in this weird

1422
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:52,480
situation where Ria won by DQ and it's like, technically

1423
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,800
she should get another match, she should get it. Like

1424
01:05:55,079 --> 01:05:57,079
it's not clean cut at all. So I wonder if

1425
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:59,119
they're gonna run this back on a raw main event

1426
01:05:59,159 --> 01:06:01,639
and then do the same thing were Raquel interferes, I

1427
01:06:01,719 --> 01:06:04,320
like the idea of Raquel being the heater. She didn't

1428
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,079
get a pop, which yeah, that was unfortunate, but yeah,

1429
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:10,239
it's just that they it. I don't know what they

1430
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,480
do now because Rio should get a match. So they

1431
01:06:12,639 --> 01:06:16,920
made that finish really just amateur type of stuff and

1432
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:19,320
sounds mean to say, but it just felt like no

1433
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,800
one would like this is convoluted, just like Bump the

1434
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,480
ref and that's it. Like even Dom Hey, like how

1435
01:06:24,519 --> 01:06:26,920
do he get out? Why is he hanging? Like all

1436
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:31,039
this stuff was like it felt very rince russo ish

1437
01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:31,840
in a way too.

1438
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, there was just there's too many moving pieces

1439
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,000
that did not connect, Like all the gears were not

1440
01:06:38,159 --> 01:06:42,920
there with Dom hanging out and hanging upside down, and

1441
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,559
you could tell Ria was taking her time, and then

1442
01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:47,639
when she started swinging away on him, you could tell

1443
01:06:47,679 --> 01:06:50,920
like she was looking as she's swinging again. Like I

1444
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:53,519
put in the discord, it gave me very where the

1445
01:06:53,679 --> 01:07:01,079
beause Vicky vibes from.

1446
01:07:00,239 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: Seeing that montage of this, So it's true, it's the

1447
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,280
custody of the match. Yeah, Vicky's late and just all

1448
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,360
of a sudden, Eddie is just what the fuck is Vicky?

1449
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,239
Like he's off to the SidD but he's just yeah,

1450
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:16,960
and he's so pissed, and it's so funny because like

1451
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,280
I remember as a kid, I was there live in

1452
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,760
that Summer Slam, in that arena, and I didn't know

1453
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,559
what he was saying, but you could tell Eddie was

1454
01:07:24,639 --> 01:07:27,119
like he was yelling and it was weird because Raised

1455
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:29,480
on the other set's like, what's he yelling at? And yeah,

1456
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:31,119
it was a Vicky Moll.

1457
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 3: She she was the key spot to that match, her interference,

1458
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,559
but she missed her mark and he just like he's

1459
01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:39,440
trying to go on and he's just like, where the

1460
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,960
fuck is Vicky. So that's what that reminded me of,

1461
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,519
like her looking around.

1462
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: And then she went on for the pin too, which

1463
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,360
just made her look dumb, Like I get she maybe

1464
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,159
she didn't hear the bell because then was like, why

1465
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:50,679
would you still do that? I was like, yeah, my

1466
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,559
hope is that you just she didn't hear the bell

1467
01:07:52,679 --> 01:07:54,639
and just thought, oh, throw her. But in the moment

1468
01:07:54,639 --> 01:07:56,880
it made Raquel look really dumb.

1469
01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:59,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, is this kind of a I'm just showing

1470
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,239
you then I'm bet. I'm like, but she didn't depend.

1471
01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: On her own. It's it's like symbolic.

1472
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: He tried, Yeah, he tried, he tried, and maybe they

1473
01:08:09,519 --> 01:08:12,199
do something where Rio is like, I'm so mad at Raquel,

1474
01:08:12,239 --> 01:08:14,039
I'm gonna want to fight her first, and then they

1475
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,279
they transition, but it's still just like no, like she

1476
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:19,960
should have a title match right now, Like it sucks

1477
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:20,880
that that happened.

1478
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,039
Speaker 3: You know, you putting her on top of her isn't

1479
01:08:24,079 --> 01:08:26,640
symbolic of anything. Now, if liv was standing on her

1480
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,920
own and went and did the whole step on you flex,

1481
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:32,840
you know, pin count to three things, then Okay, you

1482
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,520
can call that symbolic, but having someone drape you over

1483
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,199
somebody for a three count, that's not going to happen

1484
01:08:38,199 --> 01:08:38,880
because the match is.

1485
01:08:41,119 --> 01:08:44,319
Speaker 2: Someone points that out. She pulled up live like before.

1486
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:45,119
It was even.

1487
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:54,399
Speaker 3: It's just like it again there. The initial part of

1488
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:59,000
the match is fine, it was good. They do have chemistry,

1489
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:02,880
but that ending everything about it, from the moment that

1490
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,760
dom somehow got the cage open, to the drop down,

1491
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,239
the hanging everything else, it was just it was too convoluted.

1492
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:14,479
There was too many moving parts for this to be

1493
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,159
what it was, and I could tell something was going

1494
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:21,840
to go on between not only real looking around, but

1495
01:09:22,119 --> 01:09:25,079
also the announcers said about three or four times during

1496
01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:28,039
the match about how liv said, I'm not bigger than you,

1497
01:09:28,119 --> 01:09:30,479
I'm not stronger than you, but I can't outsmart you

1498
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,920
that whole thing. So they kept eluding, Okay, something's going

1499
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,800
to happen. This isn't going to have a clean finish.

1500
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,800
But that was just too much.

1501
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: No well us bub said anything else.

1502
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,399
Speaker 2: To Yeah, it was like I was enjoying the match

1503
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,319
like enough. I knew it wasn't gonna end clean like

1504
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,800
in any way, but yeah, it was just like a

1505
01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:00,640
disappointing finish in lots of ways, and you guys have

1506
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,119
pretty much said any everything else there is to say

1507
01:10:03,159 --> 01:10:08,600
about it. So it was like like I ended up

1508
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,720
bringing like a two point five. Like it was like,

1509
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,399
if it kept going, it probably would have been like

1510
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:18,319
if it ended even I think if it ended without

1511
01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:21,920
like the whole botch slash weird ending, it'd probably be

1512
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,680
like a three out of five if it had been

1513
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,640
just like they continued the match without the inner. I

1514
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,279
don't know, dom helps her win or something like it.

1515
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,000
It was a good enough match where if it kept going,

1516
01:10:33,039 --> 01:10:35,760
I was still enjoying it up to that point.

1517
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And then so we got this, which we'll

1518
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,520
talk about a little bit because I don't I think

1519
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,520
with raw is any of the matches. I feel like

1520
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:50,600
what Seamus beats, Butch J beats Xavier, and gun Through

1521
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,720
beats Samy, Like there's nothing there that you guys have

1522
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,520
any hot takes they're gonna have, right, Maybe I would

1523
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,000
love or Butch, but.

1524
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 2: I feel like he could beat Seamus.

1525
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope, especially since.

1526
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: Like all the time he's won. It's like with stuff

1527
01:11:04,039 --> 01:11:06,680
from like the Michele Shy.

1528
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in that sense. So we have goonther Verus

1529
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,079
Sammy and the winner of that, you know, whoever wins,

1530
01:11:14,079 --> 01:11:15,439
which you think we know, but the winner of that's

1531
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,840
gonna go on to verse Cody because the historic announcement

1532
01:11:19,159 --> 01:11:21,880
something that's and I fucking hate. I get they're getting

1533
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,399
paid so much money. I can't remember that I've not

1534
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,520
watched a Saudi show. Maybe I did watch that last

1535
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,479
one with Logan and Cody. I think that one that

1536
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:31,880
was a lot of the first one I watched in

1537
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,119
a while. But I hate when they just like they

1538
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:35,880
talk about it, and I love when they said he

1539
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,640
said something about all this glorious place and then the

1540
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,920
crowd starts booming. I'm like, I hate when they get

1541
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,880
in the red Rick of Like I get it, you're

1542
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,760
in paid the money, but like I don't need to

1543
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,840
hear about why. Even though promoments like a place that's

1544
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,680
so magical, it's like we know the fucking shit that

1545
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:50,600
goes on over there.

1546
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: Like just like those Sadi shows have some like hilarious

1547
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,119
matches just looking I'm just like those like, oh yes,

1548
01:11:57,199 --> 01:12:00,239
these people on the card, Like the Crown Jewel last

1549
01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:04,920
year had a Cody priest pay for rematch. I don't

1550
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:09,239
think anyone remembers. The only thing anyone remembers is because

1551
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:14,920
Priest like goes to oh no, yeah, he had a

1552
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,960
match later on in the show, but they had like

1553
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,359
Drew Seth earlier on, and he goes to cash in

1554
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,399
and and Sammy runs in and steals the briefcase and

1555
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,720
runs away. And then the next like the next night

1556
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,479
on Raw, like they didn't even do anything of it.

1557
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,279
They're like, oh, Adam Pierce made made Sammy give him

1558
01:12:35,319 --> 01:12:38,079
his briefcase back. So it was just like a moment

1559
01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:40,720
for Sammy like taking the briefcase and like a bunch

1560
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,159
of kids like that was a funny moment though, Like

1561
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:44,920
a bunch of kids in like the front row like

1562
01:12:45,039 --> 01:12:49,000
blocked Priest from like a from Jason after Sammy they

1563
01:12:49,119 --> 01:12:51,760
like made a wall to stop him. But it was

1564
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,479
just like a just a random moment. Yeah, that match

1565
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,960
that was the definition of Raw made event pay.

1566
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: For match, And that's that's the Sawy shows to me.

1567
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,640
Sometimes they're just glorified how shows, like they're house shows

1568
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:04,600
with a lot of popping.

1569
01:13:04,399 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: Super So I was looking back at those at like

1570
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,840
the results from some of the like the some of

1571
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:14,039
those earlier ones like from like twenty twenty, twenty nineteen. Yea,

1572
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,279
never watching some of those match results are like there's

1573
01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:22,520
some wild stuff on there, like Roman reigns Barn Corbyn

1574
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,439
in the in the steel cage.

1575
01:13:25,239 --> 01:13:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I is. Shawn Michael's last match is still

1576
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,319
the last match he had with Undertaker Restling twenty six

1577
01:13:31,359 --> 01:13:33,279
for me because I've never seen I know all the

1578
01:13:33,319 --> 01:13:36,000
tag I know, I've seen the clips, but I've never

1579
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,840
fucking watched that thing. Goldberg and Taker, that's another one,

1580
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,960
but I will say two back to it because we're

1581
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,640
talking about it. It was confirmeding PW inside that Drew McIntire

1582
01:13:46,039 --> 01:13:48,760
was the gimly busted open. It took sixteen staples to

1583
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,520
close the wound. So yeah, and I figured because it

1584
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,279
could have been a pack like the first.

1585
01:13:53,079 --> 01:13:56,399
Speaker 2: One was like it was such like a glob of blood. Yes,

1586
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,920
like I thought it was like like put blowing pack

1587
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,159
in his hand, just like slap it on as hard

1588
01:14:01,159 --> 01:14:01,479
as you.

1589
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,039
Speaker 1: Can, but when it can't coming that's later on.

1590
01:14:04,119 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you saw its like all the way down

1591
01:14:06,039 --> 01:14:08,760
in his head that I was like, it's definitely a

1592
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,199
bleeding somewhere.

1593
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, so they and like I said earlier, I

1594
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,960
hate they did the Tony Cohn thing where historic. This

1595
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,319
isn't a historic announcement. It's two guys and two gals

1596
01:14:18,359 --> 01:14:19,960
are gonna have a match. They're gonna win a trophy

1597
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,800
and then you won't talk about till next Crown Jewel

1598
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,439
to like soulsais pasts money. I I'm fifty to fifty

1599
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:31,319
on this idea because uh live versus Nia. I really

1600
01:14:31,359 --> 01:14:33,279
don't have any interest in because like, I just think

1601
01:14:33,279 --> 01:14:35,600
that's a weird dynamic with the both being heels. I

1602
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,520
just like they maybe can put on a good enough match,

1603
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,279
but it's just it's just odd. But sure Cody and

1604
01:14:40,359 --> 01:14:44,319
goother I'm torn on because when they did that rumble

1605
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,600
a couple of years ago, when Cody won his first one,

1606
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,359
that like they they showed okay, these two got chemistry

1607
01:14:50,399 --> 01:14:52,800
and that could like be an old timer type of match.

1608
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,760
I feel like, to me, that's the guys that they

1609
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,880
could have a trilogy of five cent matches. Were like, Wow,

1610
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,880
this is impressive stuff. So the mat announcement, I'm excited

1611
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,359
just for that because that I think they're gonna have.

1612
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,560
I just feel like they have similar mindsets of like

1613
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,439
not their styles, but just how they appreciate wrestling. I

1614
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,479
just feel they're gonna feel very classic eighties type of

1615
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,600
heel and like baby face stuff. Like. I think it's

1616
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,720
gonna be a great match. I just don't know, because

1617
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,079
Tribo said there will be a winner. I don't really

1618
01:15:23,079 --> 01:15:25,199
want any of them losing right now, to be honest,

1619
01:15:25,199 --> 01:15:27,119
because Guther is supposed to be on a tear, so

1620
01:15:27,159 --> 01:15:29,840
if he loses, that's kind of odd. And then I

1621
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,520
guess the only way I'm kind of fine. I think,

1622
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:32,720
to me, Guther has to.

1623
01:15:33,279 --> 01:15:42,079
Speaker 2: Have like a Sami distraction if it's all like there

1624
01:15:42,119 --> 01:15:45,159
and like helps his buddy Cody in in some way,

1625
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:48,960
and then maybe you rematch that at like in Canada

1626
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,199
at Survivor series with Sam.

1627
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, you're right, you could do the distraction

1628
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,840
finish or something. That's why I wish WWE still sometimes

1629
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,920
had time limit draws, because I'd love if Guther and

1630
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:02,239
Sam we went to like a time limit draw and

1631
01:16:02,279 --> 01:16:04,520
that's how you could do it. But my pitch was

1632
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,000
the other way, where I thought, what if Guther wins

1633
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,119
and then let's say Gunther loses that title WrestleMania and

1634
01:16:11,159 --> 01:16:13,199
then he ends up on the same brand as Cody,

1635
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:15,319
and he could say, hey, you're still a champ, but

1636
01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:18,479
I beat you months ago. And that's what I'm kinda

1637
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,319
hoping because I feel like Cody, I.

1638
01:16:20,279 --> 01:16:23,039
Speaker 2: Was like, wasn't there that one Like I saw like

1639
01:16:23,119 --> 01:16:27,920
the NXT versus ROW versus SmackDown Survivor series like NXT

1640
01:16:28,119 --> 01:16:30,079
one like all of them or something like that, there

1641
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:32,039
was like one that they didn't win. So they were

1642
01:16:32,079 --> 01:16:34,800
just like beating all these these other champions.

1643
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, run Keith Lee was the next big thing.

1644
01:16:39,079 --> 01:16:41,600
Yeah he was gonna be huge and then became the wildcat.

1645
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,079
Where the fuck Fince want to call it? But yeah,

1646
01:16:44,119 --> 01:16:46,359
So for me, the match I can't wait. I think

1647
01:16:46,399 --> 01:16:48,880
they that has possibility to be like a match the

1648
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,319
year Cande it legitimately, but at the timing of it,

1649
01:16:52,359 --> 01:16:54,960
if there's I just don't know if anyone should be

1650
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,520
taking a loss right now. And that's a good weight

1651
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,399
I guess to have a match for intrigue right It

1652
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,000
reminds me a little bit of Swerve and Austrey a

1653
01:17:01,039 --> 01:17:03,199
couple of months ago, where it's like it feels early,

1654
01:17:03,319 --> 01:17:05,760
but at the same time it's it's interesting and either way,

1655
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,279
I think this is just the first of many they

1656
01:17:08,319 --> 01:17:11,159
will use the story in the future. But yeah, yeah,

1657
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:13,720
what did you think of the I suppose the historic announcement?

1658
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:18,000
You like this idea of the crown jewel.

1659
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 2: Definitely overhyped for well, I don't know if it's really

1660
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,840
overhyped because they only really announced that there's going to

1661
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,920
be an announcement at They used.

1662
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: The word historic though that's the problem. If they announced

1663
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,039
it's historic, I was like, Okay, what is what's going

1664
01:17:34,119 --> 01:17:34,479
on here?

1665
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,159
Speaker 2: And it's just like yeah, for announcement, definitely overhyped, but

1666
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,399
for what it is? What what what? What it's announcing?

1667
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:46,119
In terms of the match, I'm excited for. Definitely going

1668
01:17:46,199 --> 01:17:48,439
to be a great match, Like, yeah, they've been teasing,

1669
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,720
like the Goos Cody Gumthro was top three in this

1670
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,720
rumble too this year. It was it was guns Cod.

1671
01:17:55,359 --> 01:17:59,079
The thing was that gun throw almost eliminated Cody and

1672
01:17:59,119 --> 01:18:01,439
then it was gonna be like he was in the

1673
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,640
top three this year too, So they've definitely been building

1674
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,479
that for a for a long time. So yeah, it's

1675
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:12,079
definitely gonna be a good match live Naya's Yeah, definitely

1676
01:18:12,119 --> 01:18:17,760
interesting match up there. Uh, I've seen that they've had

1677
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,359
like house show matches before, like I think this year,

1678
01:18:22,359 --> 01:18:25,560
I don't know really. I think they had a match

1679
01:18:26,119 --> 01:18:29,920
I think before, like Elimination Chamber where they when they

1680
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,520
were like building Naya, she was like beating everyone to

1681
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,159
build the match.

1682
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:35,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1683
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh so I thought.

1684
01:18:38,399 --> 01:18:40,279
Speaker 1: For a second of THREEA one, I thought, Oh, they're

1685
01:18:40,279 --> 01:18:41,880
gonna do Rha Naya and n I is gonna win

1686
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,359
this time. That's what I thought was gonna happen. I

1687
01:18:43,399 --> 01:18:46,199
still think I was winning this. I think live like

1688
01:18:46,279 --> 01:18:50,039
unless they use Raquel, but I just I don't know

1689
01:18:50,039 --> 01:18:52,399
if I want Tiffy to cash and a Crown Jewel,

1690
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,319
but I like, I don't think they'll do that then

1691
01:18:54,359 --> 01:18:56,399
because it'd be weird to have a cash because then

1692
01:18:56,399 --> 01:18:59,279
I feel like we have Morgan winning this Crown Jeal

1693
01:18:59,359 --> 01:19:01,960
Championship would me nothing because everyone would just care about

1694
01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:04,520
what Tiffany wants. So yeah, I take that back. There's

1695
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,199
no cashing happening at all there. Maybe it's ease and

1696
01:19:07,239 --> 01:19:10,000
that makes her lose again, but yeah.

1697
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:15,319
Speaker 2: I'd say Naya probably just just wins there. Yeah, but

1698
01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:20,039
then goom thir Cody. Yeah, definitely definitely interesting. What could happen?

1699
01:19:20,079 --> 01:19:22,560
I think it depends on how they build build up

1700
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,479
to it. But yeah, that's one where I think it

1701
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,880
could go either way. And that one's that could be

1702
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:33,079
like a thirty minute match. Yeah, but yeah, that's a

1703
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,680
and then I wonder, I guess those would be like

1704
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,159
the I assume probably the opening and the closing of

1705
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:41,880
that show. So I wonder what's the in between there?

1706
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe another super tag with all this, you know,

1707
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:50,319
Team Johnny team A long situation. I'm sure it's more open.

1708
01:19:51,319 --> 01:19:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Roman and Jimmy in a tag match.

1709
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,359
Speaker 1: I guess I'm over the fucking tag matches. I'm I'm

1710
01:20:00,399 --> 01:20:03,399
over the two versus two, and it's like then versus

1711
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,079
Ordon and k Like I I there's only so much

1712
01:20:07,119 --> 01:20:08,079
more I can take of.

1713
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 2: I think I think that first one it's probably still

1714
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,920
the best in like the street fight at Backlash. I

1715
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,239
think that's a great match. I love that match.

1716
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get it. You're probably right. They probably

1717
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:24,199
will do Roman and Jimmy, And that's one where Okay, Roman, Hogan,

1718
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:26,039
you gotta sit down. Roman and Jimmy can't be made

1719
01:20:26,039 --> 01:20:27,439
of it. In the fucking if they made it, be

1720
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,720
over Cody and Gunther, you're gonna hear some issues.

1721
01:20:31,359 --> 01:20:33,159
Speaker 2: The hanging of the ring.

1722
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,319
Speaker 1: That could do it that if they have a match

1723
01:20:36,359 --> 01:20:38,600
for the Ula Falla, that could make them in the

1724
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,640
main event. I'm not fall on a pole, yeah, because

1725
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,720
if they well, Cody was in Definia's Championship, you know, so,

1726
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,119
oh boy, David. Any thoughts on the historic announcement. You

1727
01:20:49,119 --> 01:20:51,920
can't remember where you were when Place announced the Crown

1728
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,039
Jewel Championship.

1729
01:20:54,479 --> 01:21:02,359
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's no groundbreaking first ever, but I mean, but.

1730
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,279
Speaker 1: Well, it is a first roun though there's been no

1731
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,319
there's been a greatest Rumble champion, but a greatest champ. Also,

1732
01:21:07,399 --> 01:21:10,319
as I completely forgot because I've seen spos background photo.

1733
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,680
Hate that The Rock brought the fucking fake belt back

1734
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,720
with them. I was fine for restimating part.

1735
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 2: It's part of the gimmick, like he made himself a

1736
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,640
title just because like and.

1737
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,359
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say. How many fake

1738
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,880
titles are we going to have on here? So are

1739
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,239
you gonna have someone walking around with this fake title

1740
01:21:27,359 --> 01:21:30,960
for a week? Maybe The Rock with his fake title

1741
01:21:31,079 --> 01:21:33,880
is braun strum and bringing back the greatest role.

1742
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: I would love to come back. I want to defend it.

1743
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:37,880
Fuck do it, do the.

1744
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 3: Greatest have him and whoever wins do the scene of

1745
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,119
punk hold up the belts.

1746
01:21:45,039 --> 01:21:47,359
Speaker 1: I think this is the Crown Deal Championship. You'll see

1747
01:21:47,359 --> 01:21:49,560
for a week and then it's gone. Literally. I think

1748
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,039
on the SmackDown Raw, they'll be like, I want it.

1749
01:21:52,279 --> 01:21:54,119
That's why I think Guta will win so he can.

1750
01:21:54,079 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 2: Well you know what they're doing Raw in Saga Arabia

1751
01:21:58,840 --> 01:21:59,920
that next week.

1752
01:22:00,319 --> 01:22:04,399
Speaker 1: Oh perfect, Yeah, they're they're bringing it out there, so yeah,

1753
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,560
they'll win it. They'll show it off and you'll never

1754
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,760
you'll see it until twenty twenty five.

1755
01:22:09,279 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 3: So if Raw is also in Saudi, then that just

1756
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:15,479
basically tells you is gonna win because they're going to

1757
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,239
have that belt back on Raw. You're going to get

1758
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:20,680
the one more. We got to pray this around that

1759
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,000
sweet sweet Saudi money. Blood is bought this. We've got

1760
01:22:24,039 --> 01:22:24,760
to show it off.

1761
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: Does that mean Live wins though too? Though, because she's Raw.

1762
01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 3: I don't think Live one.

1763
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,039
Speaker 2: I don't think a little care.

1764
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.

1765
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,239
Speaker 2: One to show off in Saudi Arabia want to put

1766
01:22:40,279 --> 01:22:41,680
on the rest of the world.

1767
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: What if Nya wins the Crown Jewel one and that's

1768
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,119
what Tiffany Cash is in on. You know, she takes

1769
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,039
the Crown Shop champ and.

1770
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,039
Speaker 3: I'll have to rewatch it. They clarify, dude, are the

1771
01:22:52,079 --> 01:22:53,520
women getting a belts as well?

1772
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:54,520
Speaker 1: I think so.

1773
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean they said for the men

1774
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,720
and the women, but I guess if it's like a trophy.

1775
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,520
Speaker 3: They said that the champions would go head to head,

1776
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,000
but they only had the one belt, So I'm wondering,

1777
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,319
are the women gonna get a belt?

1778
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: I no, I think there. I legitimly think they're gonna

1779
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,760
use that one belt for both matches. I think that's

1780
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,119
what's gonna happen. I do. I think that they'll have

1781
01:23:17,199 --> 01:23:19,479
it that to be opening with the women and let's

1782
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,840
say night with it. Yeah, they'll go clean off, get

1783
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,600
the sweat off, and then they'll roll right back out

1784
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,560
for coding gun. They're the same thing. I don't think

1785
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,640
there's I think they're both getting a belt, but it's

1786
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:32,560
the same belt. It's it's this that's my theory. If

1787
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,880
I'm wrong, because like because Tony did, because this feels

1788
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,520
a little like the own hard cut right, Tony had

1789
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,399
the women's belt made the men's belt. Bay if we

1790
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,920
get a photo of them side by side of two belts,

1791
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,319
then I say, okay, I was wrong on that one,

1792
01:23:43,359 --> 01:23:46,079
but that's my prediction. Is one belt for both.

1793
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,079
Speaker 3: And the front plate of the Saudi belt looks like

1794
01:23:49,119 --> 01:23:53,119
an AW belt. The main plate looks like an AW belt.

1795
01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:58,039
I saw it and I was like, this, this looks

1796
01:23:58,159 --> 01:24:00,199
like the whole shape of it, and then the if

1797
01:24:00,239 --> 01:24:03,000
it's like in the corners, I'm like, this looks like

1798
01:24:03,119 --> 01:24:04,960
an AW Looking at.

1799
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:09,319
Speaker 2: It, that's like that a little I don't know what

1800
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:14,960
championship has that rivets in it. If someone had told

1801
01:24:15,039 --> 01:24:17,479
me that was the continental title and I didn't know

1802
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,239
what it looked like, I want to believe though, Oh

1803
01:24:20,319 --> 01:24:20,840
I love this.

1804
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,319
Speaker 1: This could have been an email. I'm not gonna lie.

1805
01:24:22,359 --> 01:24:26,159
Nobody gives a great quote tweet by someone here on Twitter,

1806
01:24:26,199 --> 01:24:28,359
but yeah, at least for getting. And like I said,

1807
01:24:28,399 --> 01:24:30,680
I think Guther and Cody I'm just waiting for them

1808
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,239
to be on the same brand. And that's like a

1809
01:24:32,359 --> 01:24:34,199
six to eight month feud. I know that sounds long,

1810
01:24:34,199 --> 01:24:36,319
but like, no, to me, that's like, h that's a

1811
01:24:36,399 --> 01:24:38,760
money making feud right there. I always thought there's a

1812
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,199
chance that gun there was gonna be that guy that

1813
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:42,239
beats Cody, and I don't know if that's a chance

1814
01:24:42,279 --> 01:24:45,039
now because he's the world champ, but uh yeah, who knows,

1815
01:24:45,079 --> 01:24:47,520
So okay anything.

1816
01:24:48,039 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: Then I was going to add to that. It's like,

1817
01:24:50,359 --> 01:24:53,640
I don't think I'll necessarily remember that historic announcement, but

1818
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,640
I will remember that that whole segment that happened.

1819
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:02,520
Speaker 1: But afterwards, Yeah, so we had good, we had Goldberg

1820
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,880
in the crowd and good through which I'm happy they

1821
01:25:05,199 --> 01:25:07,159
went back to because I made the choke. I'm like, oh, look,

1822
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:09,319
it's favorite wrestlers there and good. They go, no, no, no,

1823
01:25:09,319 --> 01:25:11,720
you're actually not my favorite rest How could I love

1824
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,079
a wrestler when I love wrestling and taking saying I

1825
01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:17,319
hope your dad's a better dad that he is a

1826
01:25:17,359 --> 01:25:20,399
wrestler half or whatever. Gunther for some reason has turned

1827
01:25:20,399 --> 01:25:22,680
it into two thousand and four Randy Orton. He's like

1828
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,039
the legend killer. Anytime there's a legend, he's just out

1829
01:25:25,039 --> 01:25:27,319
there to like shit on them, which is like, I'm

1830
01:25:27,359 --> 01:25:29,039
not saying it's a bad thing, it's just weird that

1831
01:25:29,079 --> 01:25:32,159
the pivots happened. But I swear because Goldberg's been talking

1832
01:25:32,199 --> 01:25:34,039
about that, he wants one last match.

1833
01:25:36,119 --> 01:25:39,199
Speaker 2: In the conference. Yeah, never say never, never.

1834
01:25:39,119 --> 01:25:43,079
Speaker 1: Saying, I man, I just I don't need I guess

1835
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,000
I don't think they have a date for Saudi. If

1836
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,640
you want to do that for a Saudi show, I

1837
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,840
guess fine. I will not want I will say this, Lemonare,

1838
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,119
I will not be covering that match. I will not

1839
01:25:53,279 --> 01:25:55,560
watch it. I will or.

1840
01:25:57,359 --> 01:26:01,079
Speaker 2: It's good though there's no way.

1841
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:06,239
Speaker 1: People have themselves. Yeah, yeah, Ocada would be jealous. He's look,

1842
01:26:06,319 --> 01:26:08,600
it's like the best match in Ocada and Omega, right,

1843
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,319
But no, I I just I just don't want that

1844
01:26:12,399 --> 01:26:14,920
at all. Goldberg like even people I know people when

1845
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,600
there's rumors the big guy coming back and lawsuits aside,

1846
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,640
when people like, yeah, I hope it's fucking Brock, It's like,

1847
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,279
I'm done with Brock. I'm done with Goldberg. I'm done

1848
01:26:23,279 --> 01:26:26,479
with that whole generation of part timers. We got new

1849
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,640
part timers. Now, we got Punk, we got Roman. Like

1850
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,760
those are people that are gonna and they're they're much

1851
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,720
better like Brock. Don't get wrong, he can be great,

1852
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,119
but their sons being also be lazy. Goldberg, we know

1853
01:26:36,199 --> 01:26:39,239
what it's gonna be. He's gonna get chopped a few

1854
01:26:39,279 --> 01:26:41,760
times spears, spear, spear. I don't want him to try

1855
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,800
and jack Copper Guther because I don't want to break

1856
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,039
fucking Guther's neck, Like have.

1857
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 2: Don't want Thirmer Goldberg absolutely, and then put him in

1858
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:51,439
the sharp shooter.

1859
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:52,520
Speaker 1: Have them tap out.

1860
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of good things finishes.

1861
01:26:57,359 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 1: Have them tapa and that's the end Bill Goldver's fucking career.

1862
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,359
Have Brett as the referee, so Brett could get a

1863
01:27:03,399 --> 01:27:06,159
fucking Saudi payout. Have him do the screwjaw the Goldberg.

1864
01:27:06,239 --> 01:27:10,000
I don't care. Yeah, I don't want Gunther and.

1865
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 2: You'll have a super kicks to uh the Culver.

1866
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that they I sadly think they're

1867
01:27:18,279 --> 01:27:20,359
going to do the match. I do so, I don't

1868
01:27:20,399 --> 01:27:21,520
know when, but I think it will happen.

1869
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, if if Gunther wasn't already on the card

1870
01:27:26,039 --> 01:27:27,840
for Saudi, I would say it was going to be

1871
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:35,720
the Saudi Show, But unfortunately this is happening in bathroom Break.

1872
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 1: When it does, Yeah, it could also be a rumble defense.

1873
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,000
I could see that too. Like the champions always kind

1874
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,399
of get like these like nothing. It's either nothing or

1875
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,279
something really fun like I remember one Rumble they're like

1876
01:27:46,319 --> 01:27:49,199
Undertaker's going to defend his world title against ray Masterio

1877
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,399
and end up being a great match. So I feel

1878
01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:54,039
like rumble title defenses for the champs going to Mania.

1879
01:27:54,359 --> 01:27:57,359
It's two things. It's either a really fun out of

1880
01:27:57,399 --> 01:27:59,560
their match or it's something like this where it's like, Okay,

1881
01:28:00,079 --> 01:28:03,079
it's a big deal, but it's nothing like you care

1882
01:28:03,159 --> 01:28:04,920
about and I don't.

1883
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 3: I don't know Punk versus the Rock was at the

1884
01:28:07,039 --> 01:28:08,000
Royal Rumble.

1885
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: It was yeah, and that's one where it's like that's

1886
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,640
a big one and the wrong guy fucking won. The

1887
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:15,000
wrong guy fucking won. Rock should never beat Seeing Funk.

1888
01:28:15,159 --> 01:28:18,560
He shouldn't bet fucking Cody Rhodes either. Let's not redo

1889
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:23,079
this but uh alas who knows? So uh yeah, NXC

1890
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,199
debut this week's CW Big Numbers? Was that eight fifty

1891
01:28:26,279 --> 01:28:30,159
nine or whatnot? I nine five? There you go. I've

1892
01:28:30,279 --> 01:28:33,199
flipped it around, but seemed like it was positive. I'm classic.

1893
01:28:33,279 --> 01:28:35,560
Travis did not get to watch it. We'll watch it

1894
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,960
at some point always because it's tough when I got

1895
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,399
the three shows now with aw Raw on SmackDown as

1896
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,720
he's always the one, but I've seen enough the highlights.

1897
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:45,079
But me, I'll let you guys talk about But the

1898
01:28:45,119 --> 01:28:47,159
only thing I will say is I thought they were

1899
01:28:47,279 --> 01:28:50,079
very smart to not have rocks and lose, And I

1900
01:28:50,199 --> 01:28:52,640
think that for me, it's like we had heard rumors

1901
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,880
before they were going to do a storyline cord Jade

1902
01:28:55,079 --> 01:28:59,000
seemingly is healed, and I think you do that storyline

1903
01:28:59,039 --> 01:29:01,479
for a while. They got other stuff welighing, like you know,

1904
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,760
Stephanie's coming. So I think NXT is cooking a lot

1905
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,720
right now, and I think they they got it's gonna

1906
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,560
see what they can sustain. I think they'll sty'll gonna

1907
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,119
jump around between six hundred and seven hundred. But they

1908
01:29:12,159 --> 01:29:13,640
are a lot of good stuff going on right now.

1909
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,760
But s Bob's what do you think of the show?

1910
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:16,359
The debut?

1911
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was It was an enjoyable show.

1912
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:23,600
It's weird because it was very like hyped up, you know,

1913
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:28,640
It's like it was the premiere, but then the show.

1914
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,079
Not that it's not that it was a bad show,

1915
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,600
but it's like I don't really know what the word

1916
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,319
is for it because it wasn't like it had some

1917
01:29:37,359 --> 01:29:39,640
big matches, but then some of it was just like

1918
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:44,399
sort of normal NXT plus some like some stuff with

1919
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,760
like the network, Like I think on USA they had

1920
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,760
a lot less ad breaks than like being on on

1921
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,239
Free TV, so I think they were still kind of

1922
01:29:53,239 --> 01:29:56,840
getting used to the structure of it. So while it

1923
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:58,720
was like it was weird, they were trying to do

1924
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:03,039
like a normal episode of end while having like like

1925
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:07,159
pl matches. So it was kind of a weird mix

1926
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:09,520
because NXT a lot of it, Like there's the weekly

1927
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,600
shows a lot of the backstage segments and stuff like that,

1928
01:30:13,279 --> 01:30:16,399
but they didn't really have any on this show, Like

1929
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,039
they had like a few really short ones, so there

1930
01:30:19,159 --> 01:30:22,720
was like it was a weekly show without advancing any storylines,

1931
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,840
if that makes sense, because it was like they had

1932
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,119
the big matches, but it was still like on a

1933
01:30:27,159 --> 01:30:28,279
weekly show.

1934
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like the core j thing at least I

1935
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,840
think gives you the okay, yeah, we're going next.

1936
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,600
Speaker 2: Which I'm interested on seeing, like how like on this

1937
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,319
week's show it works out, like I assume that's like

1938
01:30:40,359 --> 01:30:43,239
an opening promo. So then but then they still have

1939
01:30:43,279 --> 01:30:47,199
a bunch of big matches, arguably bigger matches than the

1940
01:30:47,279 --> 01:30:50,359
first week. On the second week, because you have Randy

1941
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,920
Orton Wrestling. You have Bianca and Jade on the show.

1942
01:30:55,840 --> 01:31:01,439
You have like the NXT North American title match. Uh

1943
01:31:02,239 --> 01:31:06,279
so yeah, and the tag team like championship match too.

1944
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,960
So they're definitely stacking up the second show too since

1945
01:31:11,119 --> 01:31:16,159
going against Dynamite. Yeah yeah, Dynamite starting starting late. It's

1946
01:31:16,199 --> 01:31:20,640
starting at a at nine on Tuesday to take the

1947
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,920
second half of next tvwards.

1948
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: Anyone, I can't so that that's this week right, because

1949
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,720
I'm gonna get screwed up. There is gonna I'll ply

1950
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,039
to watch those both phone replay or at least aw because

1951
01:31:31,039 --> 01:31:33,199
Tuesdays are always iffy for me. Is there a reason

1952
01:31:33,279 --> 01:31:34,560
why it's not on Wednesday?

1953
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,079
Speaker 2: I still MLB playoffs?

1954
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I was just looking at. Now I

1955
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:44,800
believe that there is. They probably did not want to

1956
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:49,800
go ahead to head. Let's see yep, No, the the

1957
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:55,199
Tigers play on TBS at eight to eight, and then again,

1958
01:31:55,279 --> 01:31:58,359
let's see Yankees Royals. Okay, so I can't say too

1959
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,159
much because my team is playing Ons on Wednesday, so

1960
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,920
I would just shut up and be quiet and say

1961
01:32:04,079 --> 01:32:05,039
go Royals.

1962
01:32:05,119 --> 01:32:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there you go, so you'll be interesting. See,

1963
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,039
But I'm sure NXC would I would imagine for sure

1964
01:32:11,119 --> 01:32:13,439
beat them there because AW is gonna be not on

1965
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:17,640
its regular timeslot CWS there and it's like Title Tuesday,

1966
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,319
and like, I don't fucking think they've announced it, like

1967
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:22,840
they announced.

1968
01:32:22,359 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 2: It so far, no title match that's a art taking

1969
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:32,680
place on Title Tuesday. They've announced the what's the Danielson

1970
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:38,600
and Judah versus pack and uh Claudio, yeah, Claudio, which

1971
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,600
I can't for the not for the dual. In fact,

1972
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:47,520
there's trios champions on both teams in that match Belts.

1973
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:52,960
And then they announced, uh, they announced like the brit

1974
01:32:53,159 --> 01:32:56,920
people are mad about Britt getting a title shot, but

1975
01:32:57,359 --> 01:33:01,079
but I think it's it's not it's it's a match

1976
01:33:01,279 --> 01:33:05,720
for it's Herb versus Willow for number one contendership of

1977
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:06,399
the title.

1978
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,319
Speaker 3: They does have a match that's I think that's it's

1979
01:33:11,359 --> 01:33:16,960
so fun. Does have a match with Sukazaki is I

1980
01:33:17,039 --> 01:33:21,119
believe is the only actual title match that I know of.

1981
01:33:21,279 --> 01:33:24,119
I mean, you've got all the Ring of Honor matches,

1982
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:28,520
Dustin Rhodes is two different champions, Like you can do something.

1983
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 2: They're getting, they're getting. They're taking longer and longer to

1984
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:36,159
announce matches to the point where Collision this week had

1985
01:33:36,279 --> 01:33:40,279
no matches announced. By the time it started, like people

1986
01:33:40,359 --> 01:33:42,359
were going to show there, there was not a single

1987
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,000
match announced.

1988
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,520
Speaker 1: Even wrestled Dream. It was weird, like the aw usually

1989
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,840
has their cards a couple of weeks out, and like

1990
01:33:49,079 --> 01:33:50,279
last week is like, okay, we know.

1991
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 2: By Dynamite, it was only Brian and yeah more.

1992
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: So, Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I don't know what's

1993
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,880
going on. Just Tony's all conservatives, TV deal and everything.

1994
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,079
Speaker 2: So and supposedly the thing going around is that I

1995
01:34:04,199 --> 01:34:07,920
forget at which point, but that sources say that Tony

1996
01:34:08,279 --> 01:34:11,159
like doesn't care about long term and he only books

1997
01:34:11,239 --> 01:34:14,199
week to week. Now. He said he moved away from

1998
01:34:14,279 --> 01:34:17,600
long term booking and now he's only booking week to week.

1999
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,039
Speaker 1: I saw that, and like, I have to believe either

2000
01:34:21,399 --> 01:34:24,720
that's wrong or misquoted or he's had a weird change

2001
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,279
heart just because we just got.

2002
01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 2: The There's another thing that said, like the the only

2003
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:33,399
thing planned out ahead was this Brian mox story. They

2004
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:36,640
said that's all Mocks's idea and that he's been he's

2005
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:38,800
pretty much booking this this storyline.

2006
01:34:39,199 --> 01:34:41,560
Speaker 1: For me, it's just weird because like they just did

2007
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,960
Tony and Mariah, and I think, like whatever you feel

2008
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:48,439
about like that was a long term story. They paid

2009
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:50,560
it off, and I think there's still more. So that's

2010
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,680
why I would find it all that in August, like

2011
01:34:53,239 --> 01:34:56,039
what changed from August to like what happened to him

2012
01:34:56,039 --> 01:34:57,840
in September? They go, you know what, no more of

2013
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,279
this long term book and it didn't gowhere And that's case,

2014
01:35:00,319 --> 01:35:03,680
Like if that is true, that's something that will hurt

2015
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:06,439
the company even more in my opinion, that stuff that

2016
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,359
will because I'm not saying every single feud has to

2017
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,880
be long term, but you should think I think.

2018
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 2: What changed, like what made them if you're wondering, at

2019
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:19,159
what point is they had four like event shows or

2020
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,720
will not let me see? Because they had pretty much

2021
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,119
weeks what was it like they'd all in and all

2022
01:35:24,199 --> 01:35:29,880
out like uh, Grand Slam and Grand Slam for Dynamite

2023
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:34,479
and Collision five year anniversary, Like they had pretty much

2024
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:38,560
like like what they're advertising as these big shows for

2025
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,960
like four weeks straight or whatever. So how are you

2026
01:35:42,039 --> 01:35:45,760
gonna like build these long term stories if you're if

2027
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,279
you have to build for these big matches for one

2028
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:49,359
like every.

2029
01:35:49,239 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: Single week because you do like this is one thing

2030
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:55,239
that I do, Like, whatever people feel about the H

2031
01:35:55,359 --> 01:35:59,439
five match thing. As somebody that you know loves GM mode,

2032
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:03,319
you gotta save some big matches for your shows, and

2033
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,039
like I agree with that method where I still think

2034
01:36:06,079 --> 01:36:08,159
your body could spread to a six. I think six

2035
01:36:08,199 --> 01:36:10,199
would be something that's been better. But it doesn't matter.

2036
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,319
You look at Raw. Raw already feels stacked with like,

2037
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:16,119
even though we know the results, fucking gun there and

2038
01:36:16,239 --> 01:36:18,920
I know tons will believe that. Right Sam san is saying, well,

2039
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,079
it's on Bad Blood because I've been told, like I'm paraphrasing,

2040
01:36:22,159 --> 01:36:24,199
but it's not needed for that show. And people say

2041
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:26,479
the world tiles not needed for the show, but guess what,

2042
01:36:27,239 --> 01:36:30,640
Like as insulting as it sounds, it's not. And one

2043
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:32,359
thing I will say, at least about Wrestle Dream is

2044
01:36:32,399 --> 01:36:34,640
with Brian main event that is sold, you don't got

2045
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,119
to worry about the rest of matches because that's what

2046
01:36:36,119 --> 01:36:38,920
people are there for. But the same time, what you

2047
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,000
do is you just have long stories going up, but

2048
01:36:41,039 --> 01:36:43,039
don't pay them all off at the same time. So okay,

2049
01:36:43,359 --> 01:36:44,960
we're not gonna pay this off at all in but

2050
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,039
we'll pay it off a grand slam, like keep concurrent

2051
01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:49,920
stories and then pay them off at different times, not

2052
01:36:50,039 --> 01:36:52,119
the kay pay them all off at all out then

2053
01:36:52,199 --> 01:36:53,920
like fuck, we got nothing else, let's just do this

2054
01:36:54,079 --> 01:36:57,199
this this, like keep some stories going or you just

2055
01:36:57,239 --> 01:36:59,199
got to hot shot something really good, which I think

2056
01:36:59,359 --> 01:37:02,279
the mocks and thing is for the most part good.

2057
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,319
But that's where it's just like if that is a

2058
01:37:04,399 --> 01:37:07,199
true statement, that's something that they got to sit him down,

2059
01:37:07,279 --> 01:37:09,960
like you can't like some of the best angles in

2060
01:37:10,079 --> 01:37:13,239
that company Hangman and Kenny Omega, which I would consider

2061
01:37:14,399 --> 01:37:18,039
maybe Okay, it's either that or it's MGF and Punk,

2062
01:37:18,119 --> 01:37:20,319
and MGF and Punk was another long term story that

2063
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:24,800
lasted like four months. Like by time h MJF and

2064
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,319
Punk had their first promo in their match, it was

2065
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:29,880
weeks and weeks. So it's just like the best stories

2066
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,119
have been those ones that span a long time. It's

2067
01:37:32,119 --> 01:37:33,920
not gonna work for everything. But if that is the case,

2068
01:37:34,039 --> 01:37:36,720
it's like, man, I lose more faith than him for

2069
01:37:37,039 --> 01:37:38,960
certain things, And it shouldn't be up to talent to

2070
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,039
be like, oh I got a long term story. They

2071
01:37:41,119 --> 01:37:43,600
can pitch it, but shouldn't just always be tony because

2072
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,479
that's Vince did the same thing near the end of

2073
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,399
people all people forget you know, they't they won't care.

2074
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,520
It's like I'm not saying he's doing that, but I

2075
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,600
don't know. You get less investment from people, I think

2076
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,840
if it's too many short stories. Yeah.

2077
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,359
Speaker 2: I also saw like in terms of like ticket sales

2078
01:37:57,399 --> 01:38:01,600
and stuff, people are saying, like if you're buying a

2079
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,560
ticket to a show, like ahead of time, you're like,

2080
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,039
I'm definitely going to this show. Like if you're buying

2081
01:38:07,079 --> 01:38:09,840
it like two months out or three months out, like

2082
01:38:10,279 --> 01:38:13,640
you're changing your plans for cause you're going to that show.

2083
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,119
But if you know that stuff isn't getting announced until

2084
01:38:16,119 --> 01:38:17,720
the week of, and if you know the prices are

2085
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,840
dropping too until the week of, like you can just wait.

2086
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,399
And if there's matches, like they announced it the week before,

2087
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,039
like Okay, now I'm gonna go. But then maybe it's

2088
01:38:26,199 --> 01:38:29,000
like maybe those people who now it's sold out or

2089
01:38:29,039 --> 01:38:31,319
whatever not it costs too much they would have bought earlier,

2090
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,800
and it's like now it's like, well, I guess they

2091
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,479
didn't announce the matches or I'm not interested in these

2092
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:38,920
matches or whatever it may be.

2093
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:43,399
Speaker 1: And that's the stupid problem with the whole collision dynamite thing,

2094
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,359
with the not split rosters, like it's just so you

2095
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,920
don't know, you never know who you're gonna see. I

2096
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,000
remember when we did Wrestle Dream last year, we saw

2097
01:38:50,079 --> 01:38:53,600
Collision cause Collision tickets for good seats were super cheap,

2098
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,640
and we got there and we I'm sorry, but we

2099
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:57,880
left when roh started. We didn't mean They're like, oh

2100
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,279
I don't need this, but like same thing. Luckily I

2101
01:39:00,359 --> 01:39:01,800
found out it was like two days before. It's like,

2102
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:03,279
oh yeah, Kenny Megan was gonna be on, but I'm like,

2103
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,279
I bought my tickets and I'm in town. I love wrestling.

2104
01:39:06,319 --> 01:39:08,039
It's like, oh, I'm down to see some wrestling. But

2105
01:39:08,199 --> 01:39:10,119
it's like I don't even know who I'm gonna be seeing,

2106
01:39:10,159 --> 01:39:11,720
you know, And it was like a nothing like it's

2107
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,399
the show. It's Wrestle Dream was on a Sunday. This

2108
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,560
is on a Saturday. There's not much too, but that's

2109
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:18,199
the thing. At least you have some idea of who

2110
01:39:18,199 --> 01:39:20,960
you're seeing, but with these rosters and just two shows,

2111
01:39:21,039 --> 01:39:24,239
you have no idea who's gonna be where. And at

2112
01:39:24,319 --> 01:39:26,039
least if you announce ahead of time, then great, but

2113
01:39:26,079 --> 01:39:28,439
if you don't, I don't know that. That's where things

2114
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,800
like I'm glad they got like maybe maybe we'll talk

2115
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:32,960
about the free agency in vinced dook because we're abably

2116
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,199
tell about aw now, So like the I'm glad they

2117
01:39:36,319 --> 01:39:38,840
you know, secured the bag, got the money. And my

2118
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,880
hope is that like after they got that, they can

2119
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:45,239
focus on some of these things. But they need to

2120
01:39:45,359 --> 01:39:47,680
worry about now. Okay, in three years from now, you're

2121
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,439
gonna get your product. I'm not saying I don't think

2122
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,199
you can get back to a million. I think they've

2123
01:39:51,319 --> 01:39:56,399
lost that hype. They'd need a nWo storyline type of thing.

2124
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,279
And Shane McMahon is not that, you know, luckily I

2125
01:39:59,359 --> 01:40:01,760
hear that's the case that I suppose says there's some theories,

2126
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,119
but like they they tried with the Bucks thing that

2127
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:08,000
and that's another thing too with the people hyperbolic in

2128
01:40:08,079 --> 01:40:11,199
film communities and wrestling communities. They showed the fucking punk

2129
01:40:11,199 --> 01:40:13,760
footage years ago or like months ago, and oh, that's

2130
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,720
gonna kill him. They got a new TV deal there

2131
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,039
around for three to four years, like everyone blew it

2132
01:40:18,159 --> 01:40:19,720
up way too much. But at the same time, it

2133
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,960
also didn't work as long term. It's like I've said

2134
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,800
this before, it's like they lost interest in like the

2135
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:28,159
Bucks controlling AW. It's like, yeah, we're in control. Like nah,

2136
01:40:28,159 --> 01:40:29,640
and now you're just a tag team again. They should

2137
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,199
have paid that off and just had them lose and

2138
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:33,600
do whatever. But that's the thing where it's like, sure,

2139
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,319
you got the bag now, but now you got to

2140
01:40:35,359 --> 01:40:38,760
focus on the next three years because there's a good

2141
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,520
chance Warner Brothers might be owned by someone else again

2142
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,920
in three years, and you gotta be a property that

2143
01:40:45,039 --> 01:40:48,399
they look and they want. That was the issue. Eric

2144
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:50,880
Bischoff is half right when he says, no matter what,

2145
01:40:51,079 --> 01:40:54,199
WCW was gonna die. I don't believe that people bought

2146
01:40:54,279 --> 01:40:57,119
it and they didn't want wrestling. But if WCW was

2147
01:40:57,159 --> 01:40:59,079
a huge show, they would have won it. So that's

2148
01:40:59,079 --> 01:41:00,560
the thing with the storytelling, and you've got to get

2149
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:04,520
people invested still and the long term stuff that's that

2150
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:06,960
is a scary thought. But yeah, they got the TV deal.

2151
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,039
I think the streaming thing is really great for them

2152
01:41:09,079 --> 01:41:11,840
as far as Collision and AW because there is tons

2153
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:13,880
of people that might just click on it or it's

2154
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,439
it's just getting the exposure, So I think streaming does help,

2155
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:19,640
and maybe that thing pops off in there, the pay

2156
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:21,800
per views. I get why we talk about that, why

2157
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:23,920
it's not there, but I'm just happy they do have

2158
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:25,760
a spot for three years and then we can stop

2159
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,079
talking about it. And now I just hope that's some

2160
01:41:28,279 --> 01:41:30,399
good content coming up, because I think they've had some

2161
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,640
good stuff, a good run as a recently. Even then, like,

2162
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,600
what do you define as a long term story, because

2163
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,159
I would say soon for me, Hangman and Swerve might

2164
01:41:39,239 --> 01:41:41,880
end up being my favorite long term story. And that's like,

2165
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,840
that's like a I don't know, that's a whole that's

2166
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,720
literally a year few that started a year ago, like

2167
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:50,800
next week or whatever, because that's when the first Wrestle

2168
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:56,399
Dream happened. So I don't know. Yeah, yeah, uh, let's see,

2169
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,279
so wrestle dream we got that, next week, we got

2170
01:41:58,359 --> 01:42:02,279
the they got the six matches, we have marks and Brian.

2171
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,039
No one thinks Brian's winning here, right, anyone?

2172
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:07,119
Speaker 2: I don't think.

2173
01:42:07,239 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 1: So you know it's over, David, I pitched this last

2174
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:13,159
month and you're like, I don't know if Max is

2175
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:15,119
a guy, But I said, like I had a sneaking

2176
01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:18,199
suspicion like Brian's gonna want to go with Mos like

2177
01:42:18,279 --> 01:42:20,880
I just felt that. Now now they're doing it, and

2178
01:42:21,039 --> 01:42:23,079
then I do have a fall up question for us.

2179
01:42:23,079 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 3: But I don't know if it's going to be a

2180
01:42:26,039 --> 01:42:33,560
clean win. I'm still wondering, like how I think Max

2181
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,399
is gonna win, But I don't know if the title's

2182
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,199
gonna change hands, and I don't know how clean the

2183
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:41,239
win's gonna be. That that is my thing. I do

2184
01:42:41,399 --> 01:42:45,439
think that Max is gonna win. I just I don't

2185
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:48,079
know if this is the end of the Brian run yet,

2186
01:42:48,279 --> 01:42:51,399
and I don't think that the title is gonna change hands,

2187
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:55,600
so really get there that I'm not sure. Yeah, no,

2188
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,960
I think there's gonna be there's gonna be a rally

2189
01:42:59,079 --> 01:43:02,840
cry against the BC, even if it is Willer Youda

2190
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,399
coming in and doing something. I'm not sure. Something's going

2191
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,720
to keep this match from having a clean cut finish.

2192
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 1: Really, I think I think Max hitting with a bunch

2193
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,880
of deaf rioters after some interference and she's done. Maybe

2194
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:18,720
maybe you got Christian in there to save you. But

2195
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,680
I think I think Max is going to need this

2196
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,760
title for whatever they're doing. And yeah, I'll throw because

2197
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:29,000
you said the discord. There's like a couple of theories because.

2198
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 2: So these are not these are not good theories. Theories

2199
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:37,000
I found on one of my favorite places to visit,

2200
01:43:37,079 --> 01:43:40,760
which is our slash AW Official. So I just like

2201
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:44,439
these are the most die heard of, diehard AW fans,

2202
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:47,159
Like if you say anything negative on this, they'll ban you.

2203
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,399
But I love looking at this stage just lurking like

2204
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,319
I don't, I don't comment on anything, but I love

2205
01:43:53,399 --> 01:43:55,720
reading what these people say well to.

2206
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:59,239
Speaker 1: To uh specify the reason we're talking about this, because

2207
01:43:59,279 --> 01:44:01,399
I think it was pw Inside that said it's or

2208
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:03,680
was it Day that said it's not Shane like I

2209
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:09,079
can it's an AW scoop though, and I do believe

2210
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,199
he has a better sourcing there and I do believe that.

2211
01:44:12,199 --> 01:44:14,800
And I've said this before. For me, the way people

2212
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,640
reacted to the CM punk footage when I said, like,

2213
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:19,439
we've kind of felt the same way, like everyone's gonna

2214
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:21,520
feel they do, they're gonna operating, and I did not

2215
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:23,239
feels like the death like everyone's like, oh, this is it,

2216
01:44:23,279 --> 01:44:24,920
this is gonna kill the companies, Like I never felt that.

2217
01:44:25,039 --> 01:44:27,359
Speaker 2: I think the difference here is like for the CM

2218
01:44:27,399 --> 01:44:31,079
punk footage, like AW fans were like, this will expose

2219
01:44:31,159 --> 01:44:33,640
CM punk, and then people outside were saying like this

2220
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,880
is the death way Company. Where for Shane, if you

2221
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,640
look at like the AW like like these people, I'm

2222
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,920
punking up for them, like Shane joining is like for them,

2223
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:45,239
this is like even for the diehards, they're like death

2224
01:44:45,319 --> 01:44:46,079
of the company.

2225
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: And so for me, I'm not gonna say deathly company,

2226
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,199
but for me, there if Shane comes in, there is

2227
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,399
a that is a turning point for me. There is

2228
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,640
a time in my mind when I go, oh, that's

2229
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,640
when AW became the That's when they became TEENA Light.

2230
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:06,119
It's very similar to a lot of things TEENA would do.

2231
01:45:06,319 --> 01:45:08,279
And for me, I get it. You can get the

2232
01:45:08,319 --> 01:45:11,479
big pop, they'll spark a rating or two. But I

2233
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:14,239
just especially right now when we're gonna end this episode

2234
01:45:14,279 --> 01:45:16,359
and just do quick reviews of like the Vince talk,

2235
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,159
especially right now, it is not the time to have

2236
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:24,319
any tie and especially because Tony is done as stupid

2237
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,119
and whatever. That's fine, but the Harvey Weinstein stuff, and

2238
01:45:27,159 --> 01:45:28,960
I've said before like I don't do that because you're

2239
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,279
the same guy that says maybe one day we'll work together.

2240
01:45:31,399 --> 01:45:33,359
It's like, well, if you want to fucking work together,

2241
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:37,279
stop saying that shit, you know, like, just just ignore them.

2242
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:39,720
If and this is the only thing too, I'll accept

2243
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,319
The only reason I would accept this if if somehow

2244
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,119
Shane could bring the two companies together and when get

2245
01:45:45,159 --> 01:45:47,159
that fucking mega show, then I'll accept it. But that's

2246
01:45:47,199 --> 01:45:49,680
not gonna happen. So to me, this is the worst

2247
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:51,800
time to have him there, and I don't think he

2248
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,720
brings much other than like a pop I guess I'd

2249
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,720
only be fine that if like he was like Darby's

2250
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,439
Open Challenge, he wrestled and then we never saw again,

2251
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:01,600
Like it would have to be like that for me.

2252
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:03,720
For me, it's like a hey, one special time we

2253
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,880
got Shane in had some fun. That's that if he's

2254
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,800
like a storyline guy. So I'm not saying I'm gonna

2255
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,680
turn off AW, but that will be a distinct like

2256
01:46:12,079 --> 01:46:14,399
chapter to me of Oh, that's like almost like a

2257
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:16,520
for me, a jumping shark mom. So I get those

2258
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:20,079
AW hardcore fans because that's just like that feels too much,

2259
01:46:21,119 --> 01:46:23,680
just kind of desperation of my mind. David, how you

2260
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:25,159
feel you're some like me and we've been with aw

2261
01:46:25,279 --> 01:46:28,600
for the beginning. If Shane is says not as right now,

2262
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:30,960
but we keep getting pictures him with Tony, him with

2263
01:46:31,039 --> 01:46:33,560
the bucks, like they keep fucking throwing Ghasoly on this fire.

2264
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:35,960
Maybe they're lying to Dave to get that pop. You know,

2265
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,319
what would you feel if he is one of these

2266
01:46:38,399 --> 01:46:39,119
big reveals?

2267
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:42,119
Speaker 3: If he is one of the big reveals. The only

2268
01:46:42,359 --> 01:46:46,279
avenue that I see this going is the sting at

2269
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:51,079
WrestleMania thirty one situation where they just bring him in

2270
01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:55,079
to get give the old what for where the best

2271
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:59,640
beat you up style thing. That's the only reason. But

2272
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:01,560
I do not think that they should do it right now.

2273
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:06,239
You cannot bring him in without the bag is associated

2274
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,600
with his last name, with his family. This is definitely

2275
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:13,159
not the right time to do it. What are you

2276
01:47:13,199 --> 01:47:15,319
want to say, ooh, we got the good McMahon. No,

2277
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:19,279
you still have Shane on a documentary saying all he

2278
01:47:19,399 --> 01:47:23,039
wanted was a hug, Like that's that's still gonna live there.

2279
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:27,239
And if I didn't know about some of the stuff,

2280
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:31,640
like any a w wrestler, I'm cutting a promo and

2281
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:36,199
I'm referencing that stuff like there's no way around.

2282
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,359
Speaker 2: It, you know, Mercedes said, you know, she thought, in

2283
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,840
her opinion, the whole roster would be excited for Shane.

2284
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 1: Kind of stall. And I don't mean that a massager say,

2285
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:50,560
I mean just the thing she's saying, and it doesn't

2286
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,600
make sense. One week she saw her interview.

2287
01:47:52,359 --> 01:47:54,159
Speaker 3: Skills are as good as her mic skills.

2288
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,159
Speaker 2: But it's weird because she's it's like her own her

2289
01:47:58,239 --> 01:48:02,119
own blog, like these are these her own thoughts directly,

2290
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:03,800
no editor, just.

2291
01:48:05,319 --> 01:48:07,359
Speaker 1: It's weird. Like a week ago or two weeks ago,

2292
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:09,000
she said, like, yeah, I left because I was been

2293
01:48:09,039 --> 01:48:11,560
talked down by the cheerman, and now it's like, yeah,

2294
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:13,000
he's a genius, and like it's just.

2295
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 2: Even then that the thing I read, which is like

2296
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:19,760
the craziest one, which is I'm paraphrasing, but it's like

2297
01:48:20,079 --> 01:48:23,239
he said so many like mean things or ideas that

2298
01:48:23,279 --> 01:48:26,199
I didn't like, and that was the wrestler then, but

2299
01:48:26,359 --> 01:48:28,600
now looking back as the CEO, I think he was

2300
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:30,600
right in some of those things he told me. It's

2301
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:32,960
like one of the things he said.

2302
01:48:33,359 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 1: He only hope is it's in character, but fuck, I

2303
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:40,079
don't know, so no, that's that's not character, and no character,

2304
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,600
you stay away from defending that man.

2305
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 3: Right now, there is there is no situation where you

2306
01:48:48,119 --> 01:48:52,399
defend that man like it just it does not need

2307
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:52,880
to happen.

2308
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:55,159
Speaker 1: So give us some of these names I spokes, what

2309
01:48:55,199 --> 01:48:56,560
are the diehard.

2310
01:48:57,039 --> 01:49:01,119
Speaker 2: Well, the most realistic one, which like I've seen people

2311
01:49:01,279 --> 01:49:03,600
throw it around even before the Shane stuff, is that

2312
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:07,600
it's like Josh Barnett and this is the m m

2313
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:08,800
a mocks verse.

2314
01:49:10,119 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 1: It's such like a one that that for me is

2315
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:13,760
like the that was the.

2316
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:18,039
Speaker 2: One even before Shane was like a thought. It's because

2317
01:49:18,039 --> 01:49:19,960
they're all the shoot style.

2318
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 1: I remember that was the initial one. Yet for me,

2319
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:24,520
that's just like it. That's some of those fans that

2320
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,319
like they love mm A and wrestling and they just

2321
01:49:26,399 --> 01:49:29,119
like love the connections like I watched for wrestling, man,

2322
01:49:29,239 --> 01:49:31,159
like I don't watch UFC, Like I don't I get

2323
01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:33,359
it that Marks wants to be a bad ass all stuff,

2324
01:49:33,359 --> 01:49:35,159
and he is. I'm saying that, but just like if that,

2325
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:38,079
if the real is Josh Barnett, that is like a

2326
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:40,880
like at least it's gonna be like the Devil storyline

2327
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:42,319
where I think you would just be there and they

2328
01:49:42,359 --> 01:49:44,399
would like die very quickly and then we'd move on,

2329
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,359
you know, isn't w W.

2330
01:49:47,079 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 3: Well, they were up until I think the tk O deal,

2331
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,680
but they may still weren't they working.

2332
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:54,119
Speaker 2: With the Like they've sent a bunch of people in

2333
01:49:54,199 --> 01:49:55,319
the Blood they.

2334
01:49:55,279 --> 01:50:01,039
Speaker 3: Said, Shana there, they Dimpsey went there, and someone else thirteen.

2335
01:50:01,079 --> 01:50:03,359
Speaker 1: Barnett's gonna not shuoming man. Barnett's could be the one

2336
01:50:03,399 --> 01:50:05,680
that gets them together. Ww and aw, He's gonna sit

2337
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:09,119
Tony and TK down and they're gonna talk and like, okay, I.

2338
01:50:09,159 --> 01:50:12,159
Speaker 2: Mean at one of the Blood Sports shows, MVP had

2339
01:50:12,279 --> 01:50:16,239
like his first outside WWE appearance. I don't know if

2340
01:50:16,239 --> 01:50:18,079
they actually ever had that match. I don't think they

2341
01:50:18,119 --> 01:50:21,439
ever did, but he like challenged Barnett to a Blood

2342
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:24,000
Sport match, like he showed up at the end of

2343
01:50:24,039 --> 01:50:26,319
one of the shows, but I don't think it happened yet.

2344
01:50:26,359 --> 01:50:29,279
But yeah, yeah, that's one of That's like the most

2345
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:34,720
they'll say, like plause of Ole theory, some other crazy ones.

2346
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:37,600
I was trying to look towards to these posts to

2347
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:39,800
see if I could find more details because I remember

2348
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,319
the names just because of like how wild they were,

2349
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,640
but I don't remember like what these people's theories were specifically,

2350
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:50,840
I think the other one that people think is that

2351
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:55,119
there's no higher power. It's just like Mox being like

2352
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:58,239
poetic about like bigger than himself.

2353
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 1: I honestly, for me, that's the best option out of all.

2354
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:03,840
I already said in the discord, that's the best option.

2355
01:51:04,119 --> 01:51:07,079
Max is a great talker. He is like you could

2356
01:51:07,199 --> 01:51:10,359
argue the ace of a w what better guy to

2357
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:12,800
be like he's gone mad, decides like he it's the

2358
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,640
doctor Doom thing of I've seen the future and the

2359
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,279
only way the world survives if I run it. So

2360
01:51:18,319 --> 01:51:20,760
it's like, I'm I hope it is just like Max

2361
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,520
being like in a religious zealot sort of way of

2362
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,119
I gotta get this company back on track. I'm I'm

2363
01:51:26,279 --> 01:51:28,319
for me. That's that that is the route you go.

2364
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:30,640
And then it means more because I think that I

2365
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,319
didn't say this to my prediction, but I think Max

2366
01:51:32,399 --> 01:51:34,279
is gonna be Brian, and I do think Darby's gonna

2367
01:51:34,279 --> 01:51:36,239
beat him for that title. I don't know when, but

2368
01:51:36,319 --> 01:51:38,079
I think they're gonna have Darby be the one that

2369
01:51:38,159 --> 01:51:40,439
beat beats Max. He's Mox even said like you'll never

2370
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,920
be aw champion right there, that's over that that's that's

2371
01:51:44,159 --> 01:51:48,319
the cinema incoming store, long term booking that for some reason,

2372
01:51:48,359 --> 01:51:50,520
you know, should work, but I hope it's mox.

2373
01:51:52,159 --> 01:51:55,359
Speaker 2: Uh. Here, I'm trying to find some uh some o

2374
01:51:55,439 --> 01:52:01,840
the crazy theories here. Uh there's Eddie. Eddie Kingson's secretly

2375
01:52:02,159 --> 01:52:05,319
in control of this and he wants to make the

2376
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:06,960
company better or something.

2377
01:52:07,239 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 1: I'd have to Eddie's good talker, so like, I'm not

2378
01:52:10,319 --> 01:52:14,000
I'm somehow not opposed to it, but the whole.

2379
01:52:14,079 --> 01:52:16,560
Speaker 3: In control thing doesn't match Eddie's m O.

2380
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:17,199
Speaker 1: I agree.

2381
01:52:17,239 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. The rest of these are like, I don't know

2382
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:22,840
where people got these these theories from and like don't

2383
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:23,880
really make sense.

2384
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 1: What are some of the ones that don't make sense?

2385
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,039
Give me three months? They're just like random people.

2386
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 2: Here, Tony, he's turned heel.

2387
01:52:35,039 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 1: I gonna inject a lethal dose of poison. Well you

2388
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:39,560
know what that could have worked if, like, you know

2389
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:41,640
how this could have worked is if the Box had

2390
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:45,039
completely taken over a W and it was their show,

2391
01:52:45,199 --> 01:52:47,319
like an nWo thing, And it's like, Okay, I'm getting

2392
01:52:47,359 --> 01:52:50,239
the BCC. You guys can do whatever, fuck people up,

2393
01:52:50,359 --> 01:52:53,800
injure them, threaten their life. I don't care do your thing.

2394
01:52:54,079 --> 01:52:55,920
But it's not because the Bucks aren't a problem anymore.

2395
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:59,039
They're just like Adam Matches a private party, like cool.

2396
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:04,159
Speaker 2: I would love it, Yeah, I would absolutely love what

2397
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:05,920
you just proposed.

2398
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,319
Speaker 3: Like the Bucks went power met and then Tony went

2399
01:53:08,359 --> 01:53:11,720
to the BCC and was like, I need my company back.

2400
01:53:12,039 --> 01:53:14,960
I don't care how you do it, yeah, just get

2401
01:53:15,039 --> 01:53:18,960
my company back. Like, and then the BCC does all

2402
01:53:19,039 --> 01:53:20,279
the stuff that they're doing.

2403
01:53:20,199 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 1: Now, and then they go off the rest and you

2404
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:29,560
have this whole story about Tony Khan and I don't

2405
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,199
know that far versus Shane No, but like, and then

2406
01:53:32,239 --> 01:53:34,119
you get the whole thing of like and that's how

2407
01:53:34,199 --> 01:53:36,760
guess what, that's how you could return the Bucks babyface

2408
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:38,039
and get the elite. And they go, you know what,

2409
01:53:38,119 --> 01:53:40,399
we really screwed up. We gotta get this company back

2410
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:43,079
to the way it used to be. Like the stories there,

2411
01:53:43,279 --> 01:53:45,640
it's such like not an easy but it's like it

2412
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:47,640
is there. But again, like I said, they just lost

2413
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,960
interest in the whole new elite thing. They're like, oh well,

2414
01:53:50,319 --> 01:53:53,039
oh catd it was just gonna wrestle here and wrestle there.

2415
01:53:53,159 --> 01:53:55,720
And you know, the Bucks, they they're defending their tag

2416
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:57,920
belts again because everyone complains so great they're doing that,

2417
01:53:58,039 --> 01:53:59,560
but it's just yeah.

2418
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,239
Speaker 2: Let me see, I'm looking tourists. I think I found

2419
01:54:05,279 --> 01:54:09,600
the thread. One I saw was a Nigel McGuinness because

2420
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:15,720
of Brian and like he's in control this. This is

2421
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:18,640
multiple people said that one. I think maybe as a joke.

2422
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:23,600
I'm trying to talk. I'm trying to find more. Like

2423
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:27,720
it's like I've seen that Josh Barnett. Obviously people keep

2424
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:31,560
mentioning it. I'm trying to find one more. Like I'm

2425
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:37,000
going through this thread. I see Eddie, Tony Shane, Josh Barnett.

2426
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:40,880
I'm just looking for one more.

2427
01:54:41,319 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so then.

2428
01:54:43,319 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 2: I guess I guess that's it. But yeah, those are

2429
01:54:46,159 --> 01:54:50,000
those are crazy, crazy theories. I found Eddie was the

2430
01:54:50,079 --> 01:54:52,359
one like it kind of it kind of makes a

2431
01:54:52,479 --> 01:54:55,760
little bit of sense, I guess. Yeah.

2432
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:59,039
Speaker 1: But okay, So yeah, you got Mariah May versus Title Tuesday.

2433
01:54:59,279 --> 01:55:01,560
And I'm gonna say, as a aw fan, this card

2434
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:03,960
for me is like it's not weak. There's a couple

2435
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,279
of surprise matches on here, but it is one of

2436
01:55:06,319 --> 01:55:09,399
their weaker cards I think this year because I think

2437
01:55:09,479 --> 01:55:12,680
for just both matches, I don't care will O versus

2438
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:14,760
Britt Baker, NEI of them. She gonna tell match will

2439
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:18,239
have just lost to Chris Statlander and the.

2440
01:55:19,039 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 2: Whole Chris Statlander debacle going on.

2441
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,039
Speaker 1: Don't get me fucking started, because that's something I am

2442
01:55:24,119 --> 01:55:27,079
mad at too. They had her beat Willow and looked

2443
01:55:27,159 --> 01:55:31,560
like a fucking heel badass, and now she's her and

2444
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:34,560
Stokely are done and now she's a babyface again? What

2445
01:55:35,239 --> 01:55:37,760
And that is shit when you're talking about long term booking,

2446
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:39,439
just stuff like that, like, oh, okay, she's baby faced

2447
01:55:39,439 --> 01:55:42,079
now because we need her first monet. Don't get me wrong,

2448
01:55:42,199 --> 01:55:44,359
that could be good, especially with Chrispy and bigger could

2449
01:55:44,399 --> 01:55:46,960
toss around. But I actually thought they had something really

2450
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,439
going with Chris Statlander finally, and they just know we're

2451
01:55:50,439 --> 01:55:51,279
not done. We're doing that.

2452
01:55:51,439 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 2: That's my favorite match on All Out. And then neither

2453
01:55:55,319 --> 01:55:58,600
Chris or Willow showed up on any shows for like

2454
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:01,640
two weeks and then they only showed up in backstage seconds.

2455
01:56:02,039 --> 01:56:05,359
Speaker 1: Oh and that's been happening before, Like he got a

2456
01:56:05,399 --> 01:56:07,159
bigger push, but that happened with Orange Cassie for a

2457
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:09,600
while where he's super popular. He went away that happened

2458
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:12,399
with Hook many times where he's over and then where's

2459
01:56:12,439 --> 01:56:14,439
he been for three months? Oh or three weeks, Like, oh,

2460
01:56:14,479 --> 01:56:17,000
he's just on dark It's like, why what's he doing

2461
01:56:17,079 --> 01:56:19,920
over there? Like it's just it's just frustrating. But yeah,

2462
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:22,199
so Willow should not get a shot and Biker shouldn't

2463
01:56:22,199 --> 01:56:24,439
get shot either, Like it doesn't matter that she's like

2464
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:26,439
you know when the OG's in a big star that

2465
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:28,880
from the past and you know memes aside from the

2466
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:31,159
moment anything. It's just like that doesn't make sense. She

2467
01:56:31,239 --> 01:56:33,439
just lost a title match and then oh, well, I'm

2468
01:56:33,439 --> 01:56:36,000
gonna go fight for this title now. It just so

2469
01:56:36,279 --> 01:56:39,000
I imagine May will win. I don't think anyone has

2470
01:56:39,039 --> 01:56:44,079
anything different. Anyone else think Willow or Brick could beat May.

2471
01:56:44,319 --> 01:56:45,760
I guess my hope is May wins it.

2472
01:56:46,479 --> 01:56:50,239
Speaker 2: Like a longer built feud. I think she could have

2473
01:56:50,319 --> 01:56:53,560
been she could have won just doing it off like

2474
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,760
a number one contender shit match. And I assume that match.

2475
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,560
I guess it's for wrestle dream. I assume, yes it is.

2476
01:57:00,399 --> 01:57:03,279
But yeah, I don't think I assume Mariah retains and

2477
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:06,199
Tony comes back at some point like she's been in

2478
01:57:06,319 --> 01:57:10,399
Japan doing stuff, yes, and like in the in segments

2479
01:57:10,439 --> 01:57:15,279
that she's had, she's like in character like like has

2480
01:57:15,359 --> 01:57:19,239
like mentally blocked Mariah May like if anyone talks about her,

2481
01:57:19,319 --> 01:57:21,720
she like like she's like, oh, I don't know who

2482
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:22,079
that is.

2483
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,079
Speaker 1: Well, and to me, the other before Tony comes back,

2484
01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:26,840
the other match they have to do to me is

2485
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:30,159
Mariah ma versus Shakir there you know, live show charisma

2486
01:57:30,279 --> 01:57:32,439
like that, because she's already shown that she was like

2487
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,560
if you'll want, she did to Tony. So there's still

2488
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,560
more story to be told with all three of those women.

2489
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:40,680
But then you got Young Bucks versus Private Party. I

2490
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:43,960
think this is just to have because people complain about

2491
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:45,920
Young Bucks not defending, so like, okay, we're gonna have

2492
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:47,880
them defend, and it's just another kid they want to

2493
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:52,119
match on Collision tonight well while summer or not, some raw,

2494
01:57:52,239 --> 01:57:55,760
fucking h bad blood was happening, and so I think

2495
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,560
Bucks just beat them in like a entertaining match, like

2496
01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:00,920
a back and forth, good match. But I think Bucks

2497
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:05,079
will beat him, yeah yeah. And then this match, which

2498
01:58:05,119 --> 01:58:07,239
people need to calm down because they're like, oh, here

2499
01:58:07,279 --> 01:58:12,840
comes the unstoppable triple Threat. Reborn with Joe Daniels and styles.

2500
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:16,680
It's Osprey vers Ricerschever's Takesha. Don't get me wrong, this

2501
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:19,119
could be the best wrestling match tonight. I sell my

2502
01:58:19,159 --> 01:58:20,960
money on Moxa and Brian. I think they're going to

2503
01:58:21,039 --> 01:58:24,960
do some really good emotional storytelling. But people should calm down.

2504
01:58:25,039 --> 01:58:27,640
But I do think this is going to be a banger,

2505
01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:30,840
and I can't wait just to let let Takesha off

2506
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:33,079
the leash and just let him go man, like that

2507
01:58:33,199 --> 01:58:35,000
match a couple months ago that he had with Darby,

2508
01:58:35,159 --> 01:58:36,840
like especial, because that's.

2509
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 2: Another thing with like the weird not long term like

2510
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:44,720
they were. They were clearly building Takeshta versus Okada and

2511
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:47,840
him like turning face against like the don Klis family,

2512
01:58:48,479 --> 01:58:50,399
and then no, he just turned heel.

2513
01:58:50,239 --> 01:58:53,399
Speaker 1: And now I want, Yeah, my hope is that was

2514
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,920
just a ts for like long term. But again, if

2515
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,199
they're not going to do that, who knows. But no,

2516
01:58:58,399 --> 01:59:01,920
I think Will I think Will win this. I'm kind

2517
01:59:02,039 --> 01:59:04,399
I don't know. I because I even thought Ricochet maybe

2518
01:59:04,479 --> 01:59:07,399
was gonna beat him on Dynamite didn't happen. But I

2519
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,319
wouldn't mind if Will lost this because he can win

2520
01:59:10,359 --> 01:59:12,319
it back or I guess he did just win it back.

2521
01:59:12,359 --> 01:59:14,600
I don't know. I guess he'll win it. But I'm

2522
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:16,680
excited to see Takeshta with these So I actually think

2523
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:18,560
these three are going to put on a I think

2524
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:20,399
it's gonna be worth it. This makes it worth the

2525
01:59:20,439 --> 01:59:23,159
price of mission. I do have high hopes, but again,

2526
01:59:23,159 --> 01:59:25,039
I don't think it's gonna be the X Division through

2527
01:59:25,079 --> 01:59:27,039
Waight like it could be. But don't don't go in

2528
01:59:27,359 --> 01:59:28,279
thinking that, you know.

2529
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:32,159
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, No, I think they're gonna put on a

2530
01:59:32,159 --> 01:59:35,680
great match to Kessa. While he can do a lot

2531
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:39,920
of the high risk moves and acrobatics, he has been

2532
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:43,800
wrestling more of a heavyweight style with just the fluidity

2533
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:45,199
of it. So I think that would be good to

2534
01:59:45,359 --> 01:59:50,560
bridge the gap him Ospray and Ricochet, because Rickshet does

2535
01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,640
not wrestle a heavyweight style at all, like he's good

2536
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:56,439
going against the heavyweights, but he does, he just doesn't

2537
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,000
Osprey can do both. He should when he bulked up

2538
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:03,159
and came out of the junior division over in Japan

2539
02:00:03,359 --> 02:00:07,079
that he can do both styles. When he stopped doing

2540
02:00:07,159 --> 02:00:09,079
less flips and that's when he brought out the Hidden

2541
02:00:09,159 --> 02:00:13,039
Blade and brought up other aspects of his game so

2542
02:00:13,159 --> 02:00:16,000
that he had a more heavyweight style. He can definitely

2543
02:00:16,079 --> 02:00:18,560
do it. So I think that they're going to put

2544
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:21,399
on a stella match. I don't know if I see

2545
02:00:21,439 --> 02:00:23,720
Osprey losing the belt gest.

2546
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:28,800
Speaker 1: Yet because get back in August, right, so yeah, And

2547
02:00:29,039 --> 02:00:29,680
I also.

2548
02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:34,359
Speaker 3: Don't see Ricochet losing just yet. So I'm wondering if

2549
02:00:34,479 --> 02:00:41,600
it's if it's a triple threat to have to either

2550
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:45,800
that or to catch it takes the pin after him

2551
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:48,319
and don kallis trying to do something to sway the

2552
02:00:48,399 --> 02:00:50,399
match in their favor and it backfires.

2553
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:54,439
Speaker 1: God damn it. Fukay I love I'm pushing to Ketch

2554
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:57,039
right now in GMO, him and Finbauer ha some bangers.

2555
02:00:57,079 --> 02:00:58,840
For me, it's it's like and I was just like, man,

2556
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:01,279
I want to see that, like he Takesha and now

2557
02:01:01,399 --> 02:01:03,600
I haven't planned to go with Gunthernex and GM mode.

2558
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:06,680
I'm like, I love Takesha. Man, He's just that in

2559
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:10,159
ring stuff. But yeah, I suppose you think Will's losing

2560
02:01:10,199 --> 02:01:11,479
this or no, he's he's keeping it.

2561
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:16,399
Speaker 2: I think he's keeping it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah,

2562
02:01:16,439 --> 02:01:18,359
I think yeah, if he if he takes the pin,

2563
02:01:18,479 --> 02:01:22,439
I think this could build, you know, distrust with the

2564
02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:24,119
don Kellis family.

2565
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then, for some reason, I guess on a Collision,

2566
02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:33,319
Brody King accepted Darby Allen's challenge. Here's my thing. They'll

2567
02:01:33,359 --> 02:01:35,880
have a good match. They've had good matches before because

2568
02:01:36,319 --> 02:01:40,800
Brody King's a fucking beast and Darby can get ragged

2569
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:43,279
all the round. I don't know why they build this

2570
02:01:43,359 --> 02:01:45,199
as an open challenge because then you get two weeks

2571
02:01:45,359 --> 02:01:46,399
who is it? Who could it be?

2572
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 2: And then you know, I don't know if they did

2573
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:53,000
they actually announce it because okay, yeah.

2574
02:01:53,079 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 1: That's why I saw it in Wikipedia and I was like, okay,

2575
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:58,880
that's weird. And then forty one minutes ago, Deck Saturday

2576
02:01:59,079 --> 02:02:01,439
to come Washington. Yeah, he answered, okay, yeah.

2577
02:02:01,359 --> 02:02:04,479
Speaker 2: No, because I'd seen like when they're taping Collision. It

2578
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:08,560
was just like I think, like Brody showed up when

2579
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:12,079
like after Darby had a match. So I guess on

2580
02:02:12,159 --> 02:02:13,760
the actual show, I assume as that, and then they

2581
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:16,119
put the graphic up that he's answering the challenge.

2582
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, now they put out the actual tweet.

2583
02:02:19,039 --> 02:02:22,159
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I was gonna that was gonna that was

2584
02:02:22,199 --> 02:02:24,800
gonna theorize who could be, but okay, I guess it's

2585
02:02:25,159 --> 02:02:26,239
just Brodie.

2586
02:02:26,439 --> 02:02:28,600
Speaker 1: It's Brody. It's just to give Darby a win and

2587
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:31,000
he'll be back on track. But again, they'll thought of

2588
02:02:31,039 --> 02:02:33,840
a good salt match. But Brody's really good, Darby's good,

2589
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:35,079
so that'll be good.

2590
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:35,720
Speaker 2: Uh.

2591
02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:37,279
Speaker 1: And then I imagine that.

2592
02:02:38,199 --> 02:02:38,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

2593
02:02:39,239 --> 02:02:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's wrestling, but I guess fightful. We

2594
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:45,560
can transition to about free agency stuff quickly. That Fightful

2595
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,479
did announce that Bobby Lashley signed. Sellan Benjamin signed. Obviously,

2596
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:51,239
since we've done this podcast, MVP signed there, so they're

2597
02:02:51,239 --> 02:02:54,399
definitely doing the her business or sending it business. I

2598
02:02:54,399 --> 02:02:55,960
don't know what it's gonna be called, but it's, you know,

2599
02:02:56,119 --> 02:02:59,399
some sort of thing on that play on that. I

2600
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:02,880
was not watching WW full time when they did that.

2601
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:05,760
I know people really like them. I'm somebody that I

2602
02:03:07,359 --> 02:03:10,119
sounds mean. I'd have to see what TK is paying

2603
02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:12,520
Bobby Lashly because I just don't know if he's worth

2604
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:14,239
the money. I think Bobby's really good in the ring

2605
02:03:14,399 --> 02:03:16,640
and he can have some fun matches, but if he's

2606
02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:19,199
getting a big amount, I just don't think he Going

2607
02:03:19,239 --> 02:03:20,960
back to the Roman Punk conversation, I don't think he

2608
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:23,640
moves the needle at all. For like AW, I don't

2609
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:26,479
think he does anything. And again, my worry is it

2610
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:29,439
feels very much like TEENA. And there's that chart that

2611
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:32,119
came out last week where you saw in the last

2612
02:03:32,159 --> 02:03:36,199
two years w twents ages are down and Aw's talents

2613
02:03:36,239 --> 02:03:38,199
ages are going up. Now not trying to do agism

2614
02:03:38,239 --> 02:03:40,920
because there's tons of people out there that can add

2615
02:03:41,119 --> 02:03:42,880
to the company. Right, I would not say, oh yeah,

2616
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:44,319
I get rid of out of a cople No, absolutely

2617
02:03:44,399 --> 02:03:46,720
keep them ating Bobby lash Ye. But for me it's

2618
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:48,640
like I just wonder what he's getting paid because TK

2619
02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:51,279
throws up big money and I just I for me,

2620
02:03:51,359 --> 02:03:53,439
I think Bobby's like best days are behind him. Like

2621
02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:56,520
I'm not intrigued. I guess it's a hurt business or syndicate. Sure,

2622
02:03:56,920 --> 02:03:59,920
I like MVP and swerving Bobby could be some stuff.

2623
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:02,119
But I saw a lot of people being, oh my god,

2624
02:04:02,199 --> 02:04:04,600
they got Bobby. For me, that's not like oh my god,

2625
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:07,560
Like if they get Kevin Owens, that's like a oh

2626
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:09,159
my god, fuck, that's good. If they get a J,

2627
02:04:09,319 --> 02:04:10,760
which I don't know why people think they're getting a

2628
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:12,920
J people gonna stop tweeting that, like, I don't think

2629
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:13,960
that age is gonna be a.

2630
02:04:14,199 --> 02:04:20,039
Speaker 2: Different it's something something funny was like I forget it

2631
02:04:20,199 --> 02:04:22,880
was with Sholton Benjamin. I think it was a tweet

2632
02:04:23,039 --> 02:04:25,680
like age of you just signed a beast and I

2633
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:27,880
was like this highlight package in like two thousand and

2634
02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:33,000
three comments with like Javon Evans and Rock Sampres. We're

2635
02:04:33,119 --> 02:04:34,000
zero years old.

2636
02:04:34,239 --> 02:04:37,760
Speaker 1: I saw this. Yeah, no, I saw that so again,

2637
02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:39,560
like even Shelter, who I love, But it's just like

2638
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:43,079
it's tough because that roster's already bloated and I always

2639
02:04:43,079 --> 02:04:45,039
feel there's enough people in that roster that are really

2640
02:04:45,119 --> 02:04:47,840
good that don't get enough time. So for me, I

2641
02:04:48,079 --> 02:04:50,239
I don't know. It's Tk's money and everything like that.

2642
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:52,560
He can do what he does, and maybe there's stuff,

2643
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:55,039
even if it's like short term stuff. If I didby

2644
02:04:55,159 --> 02:04:56,640
down for that they did, Hey we've signed this guy

2645
02:04:56,760 --> 02:04:58,199
like a six month deal and they come in then

2646
02:04:58,199 --> 02:05:00,960
maybe we'll do more. But so I don't know. I

2647
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:03,680
guess it's a good pewed first swerve for a little

2648
02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:05,920
bit until they do him and Hangman, which I know

2649
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:08,079
we didn't talk about all out. I love that match

2650
02:05:08,279 --> 02:05:11,520
Hangman is my favorite that character in wrestling right now

2651
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:13,520
because he's just a fucking mad man. Like he's just

2652
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:17,199
say his facials like I saw someone saying, I'm mad

2653
02:05:17,239 --> 02:05:19,880
at what can ever happen? Like could you imagine Cody

2654
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:22,439
Rhodes right now where he is and then a few

2655
02:05:22,439 --> 02:05:24,720
with Hangman where he's right now? I'm like, holy fuck,

2656
02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:27,840
Like the cinema these two could create. Like hang Man,

2657
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:30,920
he's just he's like leveled up, and anytime he's on

2658
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:34,000
my screen, I am engaged. I love that character. So

2659
02:05:34,439 --> 02:05:36,399
but until they get back to him and Swerve, sure

2660
02:05:36,479 --> 02:05:38,319
have Swerve and Bobby, But yeah, what do you guys

2661
02:05:38,319 --> 02:05:40,760
feel about her business syndicate whatever?

2662
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 2: A little little side there. Did you see the Lumberjacks

2663
02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:46,319
trat match?

2664
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:48,640
Speaker 1: No, I haven't yet. It is on my DVR or

2665
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:49,359
what you know?

2666
02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:53,760
Speaker 2: You know what it actually was, right? It wasn't like

2667
02:05:54,239 --> 02:05:57,920
it was called the lumberjackstrat match, but it's a very

2668
02:05:58,119 --> 02:06:01,920
very specific play on the words there. It was they

2669
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:04,119
were not tied together in this match.

2670
02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:06,520
Speaker 1: No, they're not tied together lumberjack right?

2671
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 2: No? No, in a strap match?

2672
02:06:09,439 --> 02:06:10,479
Speaker 1: Did they have a strap match?

2673
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:15,039
Speaker 2: It was a Lumberjacks strap match, this match, but they

2674
02:06:15,079 --> 02:06:17,039
were not tied together. In fact, it was a lot

2675
02:06:17,079 --> 02:06:21,720
of lumberjacks around the outside dressed as lumberjacks with with

2676
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:26,039
straps if they pushed the outside the raft right.

2677
02:06:26,119 --> 02:06:28,439
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the match, but I because I did,

2678
02:06:28,479 --> 02:06:30,079
You watch the match. You've been waiting for a hangman

2679
02:06:30,119 --> 02:06:32,119
and Jeff Jarrett it.

2680
02:06:32,279 --> 02:06:35,319
Speaker 2: But people people hated this match. Apparently they were like

2681
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:40,399
Jeff ruining Page's credibility. He just had this this hate

2682
02:06:40,479 --> 02:06:43,399
feud and now he's having this this dumb match with

2683
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:45,039
with Jeff Jarrett.

2684
02:06:45,159 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 1: And it's weird because they were kind of billing Jeff

2685
02:06:47,039 --> 02:06:49,119
to be like a badass again. So I thought they'd

2686
02:06:49,119 --> 02:06:51,079
just have like another like another street fight like him

2687
02:06:51,119 --> 02:06:53,560
and Swerve and like, oh, like a last hurrah for

2688
02:06:53,680 --> 02:06:56,479
Jeff Jarrett to go to toe with me some bleeding.

2689
02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:59,199
But no, and then now they're leading into him and Jay,

2690
02:06:59,239 --> 02:07:01,600
which I'll say this because we're moving away, but TK,

2691
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:04,600
this is chance number two. J came out. He got

2692
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:07,800
a fucking still megapop. People love this guy. They want

2693
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:10,560
to see j White be a star. Don't fuck it

2694
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,079
up again. No more billy gun matches, no more losing

2695
02:07:13,119 --> 02:07:14,479
to one leg MGF.

2696
02:07:14,199 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 2: Like getting the low blow, and then.

2697
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 1: I saw your tweet. I don't want to see him

2698
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:22,640
get no and that's where the same thing that's tough

2699
02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:24,520
putting these two together right now. I don't think I

2700
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:27,079
agree with they They both kind of need to win.

2701
02:07:27,199 --> 02:07:29,359
But there's a good chance that Jay could have came

2702
02:07:29,399 --> 02:07:31,960
out Jay White and got no pop because of how

2703
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:35,199
I had been booked. This is this is your time, TK.

2704
02:07:35,359 --> 02:07:37,399
He needs to be a top guy, Like he can't

2705
02:07:37,399 --> 02:07:38,800
even be a top guy. I don't know if I

2706
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:41,239
like him as a babyface either as a top guy role,

2707
02:07:41,319 --> 02:07:42,479
but I know.

2708
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:46,359
Speaker 3: He's a good hell circle him. Back to your Bobby

2709
02:07:46,439 --> 02:07:49,199
Lashley thing. I was a fan of The Hurt Business.

2710
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:53,199
I watched it consistently during that I have a group

2711
02:07:53,319 --> 02:07:55,760
chat with a couple of my buddies who I watch

2712
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:58,439
wrestling with like in person, and it's called The Hurt

2713
02:07:58,479 --> 02:08:01,560
Business still to this day is the name of group JET,

2714
02:08:02,199 --> 02:08:05,520
so I was in on it. I do not feel

2715
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:10,079
like Bobby Lashley fits aw No. I don't feel he

2716
02:08:10,439 --> 02:08:14,800
is a slow, powerhouse of a wrestler, and I don't

2717
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:18,600
think he really fits AW. I don't know where they're

2718
02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:22,199
going with the Hurt Syndicate or whatever they're going to

2719
02:08:22,279 --> 02:08:26,560
be called, and how they play in with Swerve. If

2720
02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:30,439
you are going to bring Bobby Lashley in again, he's slower,

2721
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:33,239
he doesn't fit the style. I don't think he should

2722
02:08:33,279 --> 02:08:34,640
be the leader. If you want to bring them in

2723
02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:38,720
and put them with Swerve, then okay. But I don't

2724
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:41,760
see again Bobby Lashley just playing the heater of the group,

2725
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:45,640
just the big tough guy. So I'm not quite sure

2726
02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:47,520
where you go with this. And I'm hoping that they

2727
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:51,399
did not pay this man main event money just to

2728
02:08:51,640 --> 02:08:53,600
lumber around for a couple of weeks. And then we

2729
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:57,880
have another person, another person who comes out and says,

2730
02:08:58,039 --> 02:08:59,920
aw's not what I thought it was going to be,

2731
02:09:00,039 --> 02:09:03,880
blah blah blah, because you got this fat contract thinking

2732
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:06,079
you were going to be a superstar when not everyone

2733
02:09:06,199 --> 02:09:07,159
can be a superstar.

2734
02:09:07,439 --> 02:09:09,680
Speaker 1: He's got I think Bobby won't. I think he'll just

2735
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:11,800
be happy with that money. Like I think Bobby will

2736
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:14,840
be like a semi part time guy and he'll just

2737
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:17,640
be like yeah, just because even with when he left resently,

2738
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:20,720
like everyone was like trip, like fucking hates Bobby Lashley

2739
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:22,880
and Bobby oh No, like I enjoyed my time there,

2740
02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:25,479
like the people like he's very I think he's one

2741
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:27,279
that's just like he'll be happy to get that check

2742
02:09:27,359 --> 02:09:30,600
and do do do whatever. T K says. I'm with

2743
02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:33,079
spells where I think he got that money and hey,

2744
02:09:33,159 --> 02:09:34,319
good for him, good for anybody.

2745
02:09:34,399 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think TK signs people the

2746
02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:37,960
short term deal.

2747
02:09:38,119 --> 02:09:39,920
Speaker 1: It's usually like three minutes with that.

2748
02:09:41,479 --> 02:09:44,920
Speaker 2: Mirrored news that he apparently signed like a like an

2749
02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:47,199
eight year dealer twenty six.

2750
02:09:47,319 --> 02:09:50,279
Speaker 1: It is like it's like, like what do you do?

2751
02:09:50,840 --> 02:09:53,319
That's a as we're talking about free agency, it's like

2752
02:09:53,359 --> 02:09:57,039
the Ricky Star scene. It's like I don't I really

2753
02:09:57,079 --> 02:09:59,479
don't understand how some of them. And this is literally

2754
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:02,239
me saying not making fun TK because I don't have

2755
02:10:02,600 --> 02:10:06,319
independent contractors. It's like you have some guys signed and

2756
02:10:06,439 --> 02:10:08,760
like you can't get him to come to work and

2757
02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:11,520
if he says no, and I guess the worry is

2758
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:14,680
you release him and he goes back to WE. But like,

2759
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:16,960
is it worth spending your own money just have him

2760
02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:19,840
sit around? And like, I don't know, man, Like I said,

2761
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:22,399
there must be some different stuff there because it happens

2762
02:10:22,439 --> 02:10:25,920
with AW there's times where listen to Monxley talk. He

2763
02:10:26,079 --> 02:10:28,800
was contract with we he hated his last six months,

2764
02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:30,319
but he had to do it, so he's like, I'm

2765
02:10:30,359 --> 02:10:32,760
gonna do it. When they did the last shield match,

2766
02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:35,000
they paid him like a house show, Like his last

2767
02:10:35,079 --> 02:10:37,000
ray was five hundred dollars. They did that just like

2768
02:10:37,399 --> 02:10:39,960
as an FU two. I'm like, here's your worker's rate,

2769
02:10:40,079 --> 02:10:42,600
five hundred bucks. He's like, all right, screw you guys.

2770
02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:44,520
But it's like he still is like, okay, they want

2771
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:46,840
me to do it, and I'm there. I'm a contract

2772
02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:49,319
employ I don't get how Ricky's not there. I don't

2773
02:10:49,359 --> 02:10:51,680
get how some of these people. And if it's just hey,

2774
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:52,840
we don't want you there because we don't know if

2775
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:55,640
you're resigning, then just fucking let him go. Let him,

2776
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:59,279
let him go. It's like rick I'm sorry, Ricky starts

2777
02:10:59,359 --> 02:11:02,640
or especially Zo now, they're not gonna move the needle.

2778
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:05,640
And you know, it's so funny. The guy you should

2779
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:07,960
have had sitting at home paying him was probably fucking

2780
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:10,239
see him punk and you didn't. You released him, and

2781
02:11:10,319 --> 02:11:11,960
he had this big moment and I'm fine because let

2782
02:11:12,079 --> 02:11:14,239
him go. Then be happy, let him be on our screens,

2783
02:11:14,279 --> 02:11:16,520
but like, that's the guy who can fucking move the

2784
02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:18,800
needle and take money away from you and hurt your

2785
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:23,199
Chicago market, not Miro or Daniel Garcia. Like like, I'm

2786
02:11:23,239 --> 02:11:24,880
not saying they can't do good, big things, but on

2787
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:27,800
that initial okay, you get a pop, some good Twitter views,

2788
02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:29,880
but it's not like, what's Miro gonna do if you

2789
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:32,119
let him go, You're just wasting your money right now.

2790
02:11:32,199 --> 02:11:35,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, Mirro's not that guy. Some of these

2791
02:11:35,039 --> 02:11:37,600
other people that they talk about leaving are only gonna

2792
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:41,279
wind up on NXT. Again, nothing against NXC, but that's

2793
02:11:41,279 --> 02:11:46,439
where they're headed. So you're spending money the competition there. Yeah,

2794
02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:48,760
and you're spending a whole lot of money to keep

2795
02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:52,479
these people on and not use them when you might

2796
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:55,680
as well just stop paying them, let him go, ride

2797
02:11:55,720 --> 02:11:58,239
out that ninety day non compete, and then let them

2798
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:00,199
go wherever they're gonna.

2799
02:12:00,560 --> 02:12:03,079
Speaker 1: And it sucks because Miro that first year is with

2800
02:12:03,279 --> 02:12:05,920
AW was that I think some of the best work

2801
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:08,159
of his career. Speaking of Darby, when him and Darby

2802
02:12:08,199 --> 02:12:11,279
had that tent title match, one of my favorite AW matches,

2803
02:12:11,319 --> 02:12:16,000
it was so redeemer. It was Redeemer. He was so good.

2804
02:12:16,079 --> 02:12:18,920
He's doing like these religious ranting, He's talking.

2805
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:20,079
Speaker 3: About God's favorite.

2806
02:12:20,439 --> 02:12:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he would just come in there and

2807
02:12:22,079 --> 02:12:25,000
he was like a mini Lesnar and like they had

2808
02:12:25,119 --> 02:12:26,960
something cooking with him, and I was like, Oh, he's

2809
02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:30,239
gonna be an AW champ in the next couple of years.

2810
02:12:30,239 --> 02:12:32,279
And then I don't know whatever happened there and then

2811
02:12:32,439 --> 02:12:34,399
just went away. I know there's the rumors he doesn't

2812
02:12:34,399 --> 02:12:36,039
want to lose the Peal, which I always think is

2813
02:12:36,119 --> 02:12:39,279
like the dumbest thing in pro wrestling. Like I I

2814
02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:41,600
get it. If Tony's like, hey, my storyline for you

2815
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:44,479
is like you're gonna like lose for a year sauld,

2816
02:12:44,479 --> 02:12:46,840
then I'd say, hey, Tony, like this doesn't make sense.

2817
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:49,520
But it's like, like, look at fucking Brian. This man's

2818
02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:52,119
loss like majority of his matches this year doesn't matter.

2819
02:12:52,279 --> 02:12:54,720
Obviously an established fan base, but still it's like, he

2820
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,439
lose the right way, You're fine. So yeah, the Redeemer.

2821
02:12:57,960 --> 02:12:59,479
It sucks because I thought that was gonna be an

2822
02:12:59,479 --> 02:13:01,960
AW top act for many years and we only got

2823
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:03,800
that one year of it and it was great, but

2824
02:13:04,119 --> 02:13:07,239
uh yeah, and then we got Ko whose contract's not

2825
02:13:07,359 --> 02:13:09,479
signed obviously tack Cody. But I've said before it I

2826
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:11,640
don't think he's going anywhere, even though even if ad

2827
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:13,880
was gonna throw him this big money, I think that

2828
02:13:14,159 --> 02:13:14,960
he's a lot.

2829
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:19,199
Speaker 2: I saw an aw conspiracy theory, you know, I about

2830
02:13:19,279 --> 02:13:24,159
Ko about aj Styles, that was they're purposely doing this

2831
02:13:24,920 --> 02:13:28,239
washed gimmick to lower his sock when he leaves for

2832
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:30,960
ADW so people think he's bad.

2833
02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:33,720
Speaker 1: I saw. I saw that too, and it's like, I

2834
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:36,760
think that's just the story. People want him back on TV.

2835
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:39,520
It's it's interesting because it was that thing when he

2836
02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:43,479
came a SmackDown. Even my kids were like, oh, like

2837
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:46,079
he's like he seems happy. Like they're like they weren't

2838
02:13:46,079 --> 02:13:48,720
saying he's babyface, but in their child's mind, naked process,

2839
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:51,399
like he was clearly acting like a baby face. And

2840
02:13:51,479 --> 02:13:53,520
I was like, oh, yeah, I guess he's apologizing and

2841
02:13:53,600 --> 02:13:56,039
he wants something man like I'm trying to explain to

2842
02:13:56,159 --> 02:13:58,760
five and seven year old's like yeah, he's you know,

2843
02:13:58,840 --> 02:14:00,680
this is his way of turned baby. I never used

2844
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:03,000
the terms in front of them, but like, yeah, I'm fine.

2845
02:14:03,039 --> 02:14:05,560
It's like it fits already because they were kind of

2846
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:07,800
already doing a washed storyline, right of like I need

2847
02:14:07,880 --> 02:14:10,399
to win the world, like this fits what they're doing.

2848
02:14:10,600 --> 02:14:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that was the story. I forget he

2849
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:17,560
mentioned it. I'm trying to find forget. They're trying to

2850
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:20,880
remember exactly what he said. But it was like repeating

2851
02:14:21,119 --> 02:14:22,920
like something that people were saying.

2852
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:25,479
Speaker 1: Around that time about it, right, yeah, because there were

2853
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:27,279
that he was watching. They have the match with Cody

2854
02:14:27,319 --> 02:14:29,560
and everyone's like, I, I, you know, I apologize.

2855
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:32,760
Speaker 2: It's not got a five star from from Meltzer.

2856
02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:35,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know AJ can still go, and I AJ

2857
02:14:35,399 --> 02:14:38,000
to me, yes, I don't go. Don't get me wrong.

2858
02:14:38,359 --> 02:14:40,640
It's not like Bobby last year. Tomorrow if we found out, Hey,

2859
02:14:40,760 --> 02:14:43,520
Kevin Owen, Kevin Owens and Cody Rhodes on Frank SmackDown,

2860
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:46,199
they're having a loser leaves you know, Town and Cale.

2861
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:50,479
Both kle and AJ could fit into AW their styles

2862
02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:54,399
are that way. I do think their storyline wise, after

2863
02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:56,920
Kevin does this, I've said this before. I don't know

2864
02:14:57,000 --> 02:14:59,319
what else there is for Kevin do. He's done everything.

2865
02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:01,119
I don't I think he'll ever be a top guy.

2866
02:15:01,119 --> 02:15:03,159
I don't think he'll forget a world title like world

2867
02:15:03,239 --> 02:15:06,560
title again or a w championship again. And same thing

2868
02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:08,760
with AJ. It's like, I don't people want to have

2869
02:15:08,840 --> 02:15:10,800
that one last run, but I don't think that I

2870
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:13,680
foresee him winning a world title either. So I think

2871
02:15:13,720 --> 02:15:16,319
there's tons upside them going to AW. And they fit

2872
02:15:16,439 --> 02:15:19,840
with also storylines with Bucks and Kenny and the Elite

2873
02:15:19,840 --> 02:15:21,920
and all these people. So like if they were to go,

2874
02:15:22,079 --> 02:15:24,000
I'm like Bobby, like, oh, this is great. I could

2875
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:26,479
see tons of stuff with these guys. But I don't

2876
02:15:26,520 --> 02:15:28,319
think either of them are going. I think Kevin's a lifer,

2877
02:15:28,319 --> 02:15:31,039
and I feel like AJ also is kind of a lifer,

2878
02:15:31,199 --> 02:15:33,720
like maybe like coach in the future, Like I just

2879
02:15:34,479 --> 02:15:34,920
I mean.

2880
02:15:34,840 --> 02:15:38,920
Speaker 2: That's the whole thing with MotorCity machine Guns, Like that's

2881
02:15:39,039 --> 02:15:41,479
the room where they signed us for. There's even a

2882
02:15:41,600 --> 02:15:46,279
video from like twenty nineteen WW they had. I think

2883
02:15:46,399 --> 02:15:50,079
Alex Shelley is like a guest host, a guest coach

2884
02:15:50,199 --> 02:15:54,159
of the PC for a bit. So yeah, and they

2885
02:15:54,239 --> 02:15:56,920
played that's another thing during Bad Blood They've played another

2886
02:15:57,880 --> 02:16:01,239
vignette they're teasing lot of City machine guns.

2887
02:16:02,479 --> 02:16:07,960
Speaker 3: I don't see Ko ever jump into AW for two reasons.

2888
02:16:08,159 --> 02:16:10,439
Won his friendship with the Bucks. I think will keep

2889
02:16:10,520 --> 02:16:13,119
him from AW and I think his friendship with Sammy

2890
02:16:13,119 --> 02:16:17,319
will keep him in WW. Kevin Owens doesn't seem like

2891
02:16:17,399 --> 02:16:19,960
the type who would want to go and work for

2892
02:16:20,239 --> 02:16:25,199
his friends. I think he enjoys that friendship too much

2893
02:16:26,199 --> 02:16:29,119
to mix the business of working for them.

2894
02:16:29,239 --> 02:16:29,399
Speaker 1: Now.

2895
02:16:29,479 --> 02:16:31,720
Speaker 3: If they weren't EVPs and if it was just I'm

2896
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:34,760
going to go work with my friends, I think he

2897
02:16:34,799 --> 02:16:37,079
would do it in a heartbeat due to that association,

2898
02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:39,399
due to how close they are as friends, I don't

2899
02:16:39,440 --> 02:16:44,159
think he would want to work under his friends right now.

2900
02:16:44,239 --> 02:16:47,959
He's got a good thing going with WW. Triple H

2901
02:16:48,159 --> 02:16:51,159
obviously values him. He's not doing a lot of the

2902
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:53,799
stuff that he was doing under Vince. I think that.

2903
02:16:55,360 --> 02:16:58,799
I don't think he's going to be a substantial world

2904
02:16:58,920 --> 02:17:02,280
champion again. See him winning like the World heavyweight title

2905
02:17:02,520 --> 02:17:04,520
and being a transitional champion with.

2906
02:17:04,600 --> 02:17:06,280
Speaker 1: That month, I could see him.

2907
02:17:06,360 --> 02:17:08,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see him also winning one of the

2908
02:17:08,879 --> 02:17:11,840
mid card belts and going on a nice little you're

2909
02:17:11,879 --> 02:17:14,799
not going going through with it, but having a nice.

2910
02:17:14,600 --> 02:17:15,920
Speaker 1: Little record.

2911
02:17:18,959 --> 02:17:22,280
Speaker 3: Run with it, getting back to you know, the prize

2912
02:17:22,319 --> 02:17:25,840
fighter and having an open challenge for that belt for

2913
02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:29,360
a while, like until they have somebody that they're building

2914
02:17:29,440 --> 02:17:32,120
up that they need to take that belt off of him.

2915
02:17:32,719 --> 02:17:36,520
But that Yeah, so I don't see him going aj

2916
02:17:37,719 --> 02:17:40,399
Aj could go either way, but I do see him

2917
02:17:40,559 --> 02:17:42,760
just saying when he's done, he's done. He's going to

2918
02:17:42,840 --> 02:17:45,159
go be a coach and then he's going to spend

2919
02:17:45,239 --> 02:17:47,159
time with his family because I think that he'd rather

2920
02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:53,280
be the family man and not be somebody's executive somewhere.

2921
02:17:53,520 --> 02:17:57,479
So if he could get something down at the performance Center,

2922
02:17:57,879 --> 02:17:59,680
then I think he would do that. Now, if they're

2923
02:17:59,719 --> 02:18:03,280
really talking about moving everything out to Vegas, then pro

2924
02:18:04,079 --> 02:18:06,959
most likely not because then he's a good old boy

2925
02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:09,399
from the South. He leaving the South. He ain't going

2926
02:18:09,399 --> 02:18:13,280
to Vegas like that. But yeah, I don't see either

2927
02:18:13,319 --> 02:18:14,799
of them making that jump.

2928
02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:19,399
Speaker 1: I will appreciate because AG's back. I'm very fond of

2929
02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:22,600
all the gay community memes that they have previous age.

2930
02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:24,760
If you don't know, there's like a clip of him

2931
02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:26,959
back in the teen age era and he's on a

2932
02:18:27,079 --> 02:18:29,479
radio show and the hosts like, oh, and what do

2933
02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:31,520
you feel about You're a big fall in the gay community,

2934
02:18:31,559 --> 02:18:33,719
and agents like the gay community.

2935
02:18:34,079 --> 02:18:36,200
Speaker 2: I've seen the full clip because I always wondered what

2936
02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:40,040
happened the next and it was like it was like

2937
02:18:40,159 --> 02:18:42,680
a caller on a radio show who said that, so

2938
02:18:42,760 --> 02:18:45,879
there wasn't anything next, like he just they just hung up.

2939
02:18:47,719 --> 02:18:49,760
Speaker 1: I love I saw like the Gay Community Bowl Club.

2940
02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:51,879
I saw like it was like the gay Commune and

2941
02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:55,440
then went to like a fan cam. Oh my god, yeah,

2942
02:18:55,600 --> 02:18:57,040
because Dave was right, he's a good old boy and

2943
02:18:57,079 --> 02:18:59,479
he's not he's not leaving there. And but yeah, like

2944
02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:03,479
guess was up Morrisy machine Guns. They're fully signed now

2945
02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:05,959
looks like they're going the main roster. It was never planned,

2946
02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:09,120
you know, according to some people. But yeah, I think

2947
02:19:09,159 --> 02:19:11,040
that's gonna be interesting. We talked about in the discord

2948
02:19:11,079 --> 02:19:13,360
about the tag title ladder match, which I thought was

2949
02:19:13,559 --> 02:19:16,879
solid last night, but I think, yeah, they probably will

2950
02:19:16,920 --> 02:19:19,239
be the ones to take it off of my I

2951
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:21,799
would imagine even if it's like a shorter run. I

2952
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:23,559
guess the idea someone might say, like, oh, well, the

2953
02:19:23,639 --> 02:19:26,319
older talent being the newer ones, But uh no, I

2954
02:19:26,600 --> 02:19:29,520
think both Ron smacked down. Even though last night it

2955
02:19:29,600 --> 02:19:31,479
was a good match, I still think they really need

2956
02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:34,680
some juicy tag divisions, and I know Triple can do it.

2957
02:19:34,799 --> 02:19:37,680
He did it in XT he was like fucking tag

2958
02:19:37,879 --> 02:19:40,479
matches main evented their shows. I'm not saying that's gonna happen,

2959
02:19:40,559 --> 02:19:42,959
but I'd like to get it to a point where

2960
02:19:43,000 --> 02:19:45,319
you could make the argument for that other than like

2961
02:19:45,399 --> 02:19:46,239
bloodline stuff.

2962
02:19:46,280 --> 02:19:46,440
Speaker 2: Right.

2963
02:19:46,600 --> 02:19:49,879
Speaker 1: So, and they're good hires. They're just like they're gonna

2964
02:19:49,879 --> 02:19:52,040
put on a good match with anybody. And yeah, maybe

2965
02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:54,200
they they link up with their TEENA brother and I

2966
02:19:54,239 --> 02:19:56,680
don't know, maybe you get like a TEENA wins again faction.

2967
02:19:56,840 --> 02:19:58,440
You get all them taken over.

2968
02:19:58,719 --> 02:20:01,200
Speaker 2: Who knows the New Good Brothers.

2969
02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have the New Good Brothers the main event

2970
02:20:03,879 --> 02:20:08,000
Mafia Reborn or whatnot. But is there any free agency

2971
02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:12,799
news that I'm missing right now? People thing? Oh right,

2972
02:20:12,920 --> 02:20:14,159
what a mess that was?

2973
02:20:14,360 --> 02:20:14,520
Speaker 2: Right?

2974
02:20:14,639 --> 02:20:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was report that they were going there, but

2975
02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:21,079
then the report was, well, actually, well what's his name? Penta?

2976
02:20:21,440 --> 02:20:23,399
His contract is going to be up soon, but his

2977
02:20:23,479 --> 02:20:26,079
brother's not. And I guess it just seems like the

2978
02:20:26,200 --> 02:20:29,719
theory is that they were going to get to cool

2979
02:20:29,799 --> 02:20:30,879
lot earlier. Penta.

2980
02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:35,520
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, that Penta was going around backstage they and

2981
02:20:36,079 --> 02:20:38,639
he's working Cody for the belt as soon as he.

2982
02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:42,760
Speaker 1: Does, And I think, yeah, Penta and that's where it

2983
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:45,600
shows like at the end of the day, you gotta

2984
02:20:46,120 --> 02:20:48,079
keep your cards close to your ches.

2985
02:20:48,200 --> 02:20:51,319
Speaker 2: But then there's also people like that was one of them.

2986
02:20:51,319 --> 02:20:55,200
But then there's also like lower stuff from people both

2987
02:20:55,239 --> 02:20:58,399
say like I know Penta, and he's never been one

2988
02:20:58,520 --> 02:21:01,360
to say something like that, so he knows it's always

2989
02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:05,760
up to You're never gonna know exactly this backstage.

2990
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:10,959
Speaker 3: Exactly unless yeah, has said he's open to staying in

2991
02:21:11,079 --> 02:21:14,280
a W. He said right now, that is where he signed,

2992
02:21:14,399 --> 02:21:16,959
and that is where he's gonna give his effort. He's

2993
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:21,479
told other people that my present, Yeah, now I'm.

2994
02:21:21,319 --> 02:21:22,879
Speaker 1: Going to beat you at the couch because Tony's not

2995
02:21:22,879 --> 02:21:24,200
gonna book you guys at all now.

2996
02:21:24,360 --> 02:21:27,879
Speaker 3: But if you if you look at Ray Phoenix's Instagram

2997
02:21:28,040 --> 02:21:30,280
or any of his social medias, for like the last

2998
02:21:30,319 --> 02:21:32,719
couple of months, he's been posting goodbyes.

2999
02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:37,159
Speaker 2: And like I think it was like the last day

3000
02:21:37,319 --> 02:21:41,159
of last month, like the when his contract presumably was

3001
02:21:41,200 --> 02:21:43,760
gonna end, he posted like a whole slide show with

3002
02:21:43,840 --> 02:21:46,000
a bunch of images from a W and he's like,

3003
02:21:46,120 --> 02:21:50,040
thank you for everything, like I loved wrestling here. Like

3004
02:21:50,239 --> 02:21:52,639
that was like he thought, well and that's what the

3005
02:21:52,719 --> 02:21:54,959
report said. Like he he thought he was done with.

3006
02:21:56,799 --> 02:21:58,479
Speaker 3: He tried to clean it up and say it was

3007
02:21:58,600 --> 02:22:00,440
just a love letter to wrestling as a whole.

3008
02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:05,559
Speaker 1: But I mean social media, when your contracts are up

3009
02:22:05,600 --> 02:22:06,920
in the air, please.

3010
02:22:06,719 --> 02:22:09,600
Speaker 3: Until you get that confirmation from your lawyer, bru it's

3011
02:22:09,799 --> 02:22:12,399
not over. And they were like, oh, you think you're

3012
02:22:12,479 --> 02:22:15,120
going somewhere? Yeah, how long has he been injured? Is

3013
02:22:15,399 --> 02:22:16,680
go ahead? Tackle that time.

3014
02:22:16,799 --> 02:22:19,879
Speaker 1: I don't think if Triple H signs you and then

3015
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:21,760
let's say, before you and debut on TV, if you

3016
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:24,360
post some about aw like your farewell, I don't think

3017
02:22:24,440 --> 02:22:26,280
he's gonna be like, well, you know what, fuck these guys.

3018
02:22:26,360 --> 02:22:28,920
Let's not push them like I think especially Triple H

3019
02:22:29,079 --> 02:22:31,959
understands like the ability of like working in place and

3020
02:22:32,120 --> 02:22:34,440
falling in love with it right and just even thanking

3021
02:22:34,479 --> 02:22:37,000
them for the memories. I don't think that like fucking

3022
02:22:37,079 --> 02:22:40,440
Cody and Jamie. But Cody's still an interviews, always says

3023
02:22:40,719 --> 02:22:43,319
he'll not say my former company. He still just says aw,

3024
02:22:43,559 --> 02:22:46,760
aw Right, the fucking Vince documentary, I know they didn't

3025
02:22:46,760 --> 02:22:49,399
make it, which we're talking about mentions aw like it's

3026
02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:51,479
like they mentioned t and a couple of nights ago.

3027
02:22:51,559 --> 02:22:52,600
I know they're working with him, but it's like I

3028
02:22:52,639 --> 02:22:56,559
feel like the whole like the old school, like ignore everybody,

3029
02:22:56,600 --> 02:22:58,600
pretend we're just owly resting company so.

3030
02:22:58,799 --> 02:23:03,280
Speaker 2: Much in the TNA, the original NW A t NA

3031
02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:08,000
and Noah Yeah, and that Chelsea Green and Meechen reformer

3032
02:23:08,239 --> 02:23:09,920
Impact Women's Yeah.

3033
02:23:10,360 --> 02:23:14,239
Speaker 3: Matthew's got a shout out tonight here a big.

3034
02:23:14,200 --> 02:23:15,399
Speaker 1: Muscle guy from Australia.

3035
02:23:15,479 --> 02:23:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3036
02:23:15,680 --> 02:23:18,280
Speaker 1: And that thing where it's just like as we've seen,

3037
02:23:18,440 --> 02:23:21,639
like if WW mentions AW or Ray Phoenix were in

3038
02:23:22,319 --> 02:23:24,799
WW and he posts Instagram thing, that's not gonna be like,

3039
02:23:24,879 --> 02:23:27,079
fuck he was an AW want to watch AW? Like

3040
02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:30,239
the only thing that sways it is fucking as we've

3041
02:23:30,280 --> 02:23:32,520
seen is good creative for the most part. There could

3042
02:23:32,559 --> 02:23:34,840
be some hotshots stuff, it's like sets the idea of

3043
02:23:34,959 --> 02:23:37,520
like why would you be posting the ship if you

3044
02:23:37,559 --> 02:23:39,639
don't know one hundred percent you're gone, And that's where

3045
02:23:39,639 --> 02:23:41,719
it's just like, don't say that's a But I think,

3046
02:23:41,959 --> 02:23:44,479
like everyone said in WW, they're gonna have great merch

3047
02:23:44,600 --> 02:23:46,920
and I'm interested to see what they can do. I

3048
02:23:47,000 --> 02:23:49,719
hope they just don't get lumped in with the Santo's,

3049
02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:52,280
that Spar group and LWO because that can happen because

3050
02:23:52,360 --> 02:23:55,680
like wild and who's the other guy? I don't even

3051
02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:59,479
remember the other guy's name. That's another They're just fucking

3052
02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:01,360
and nothing. They're there kind of.

3053
02:24:01,440 --> 02:24:06,159
Speaker 2: Crazy thing about I think it's walking well because he's

3054
02:24:06,239 --> 02:24:09,600
thirty eight, you know what. God, but I thought it

3055
02:24:09,719 --> 02:24:14,159
was for so long that Yeah, he created the ROH

3056
02:24:14,360 --> 02:24:17,639
logo when he saw eighteen or something.

3057
02:24:17,399 --> 02:24:21,000
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, ziema ion. He's been all over, Like he

3058
02:24:21,200 --> 02:24:24,520
had huge history with the X Division and TNA and

3059
02:24:24,680 --> 02:24:26,719
things like that, so yeah, he's been around.

3060
02:24:27,120 --> 02:24:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but now he just he just is like a support, right, yeah,

3061
02:24:31,120 --> 02:24:32,680
and that's where for me he does.

3062
02:24:32,760 --> 02:24:34,840
Speaker 2: Of course they could jump move.

3063
02:24:35,920 --> 02:24:37,879
Speaker 1: They busted every yeah when he's in a match, and

3064
02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:39,559
it is cool. But like and that thing with the

3065
02:24:39,639 --> 02:24:41,360
Luca Bros. It's like, yeah, you could go there, it

3066
02:24:41,399 --> 02:24:44,319
could end up great. But you could also those like

3067
02:24:45,399 --> 02:24:48,479
forty minutes still cage classics, you have the bucks, those

3068
02:24:49,159 --> 02:24:51,079
are over, so it's like that's it all depends on

3069
02:24:51,159 --> 02:24:53,159
your perspective, right, if they want to sit there and

3070
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:54,959
get the money and then maybe it works out, maybe

3071
02:24:54,959 --> 02:24:56,440
they become a hot tag team. But it's just like

3072
02:24:56,920 --> 02:24:59,520
you don't know, right, And that's where my there're someone

3073
02:24:59,559 --> 02:25:02,680
I worry this same way, like uh Vi king go

3074
02:25:02,879 --> 02:25:04,440
like that's a guy where I go, that's not w

3075
02:25:04,639 --> 02:25:06,879
W guy. When I heard Conan say that, I went no,

3076
02:25:07,079 --> 02:25:09,920
like Daniel Garcia, Ricky Starks, like with Garcia or even

3077
02:25:09,959 --> 02:25:12,040
Hook those two examples, I said, Oh, I can see

3078
02:25:12,079 --> 02:25:14,680
them work both companies, Like if they stay or go,

3079
02:25:15,399 --> 02:25:17,399
I can go no, I go no, that's not w guy.

3080
02:25:17,440 --> 02:25:19,559
I think they will. He'll just become a flippy guy

3081
02:25:19,600 --> 02:25:21,600
that they bust out for the rumble or this and that,

3082
02:25:21,879 --> 02:25:24,000
or he'll be around. But they're certain acts I do

3083
02:25:24,159 --> 02:25:26,920
think and Luca Bros. I think can work in w B.

3084
02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:30,000
But I still think they they they lean more a

3085
02:25:30,399 --> 02:25:32,680
WISH and I'm that's why I'm curing on.

3086
02:25:32,840 --> 02:25:36,239
Speaker 2: That Conan Dave's stream. They were they were saying that

3087
02:25:36,399 --> 02:25:40,040
they they thought that the Luca Bros. And w Would

3088
02:25:40,079 --> 02:25:41,719
both be better as singles.

3089
02:25:42,959 --> 02:25:48,120
Speaker 1: Interesting hmm, there's an argument to that. You could. They

3090
02:25:48,200 --> 02:25:50,680
might they could have more success that way. I think

3091
02:25:50,719 --> 02:25:53,120
it depends how they bring them in definitely different brands,

3092
02:25:53,159 --> 02:25:55,959
so for sure, like you'd have to do that so, I.

3093
02:25:56,000 --> 02:26:01,120
Speaker 3: Mean they're both former world champions, so yeah, it's not unseen,

3094
02:26:01,319 --> 02:26:03,280
but I don't know if at this point in their

3095
02:26:03,399 --> 02:26:07,120
career how plausible it would be for them to be

3096
02:26:07,719 --> 02:26:14,920
world champions. I know, mid card maybe speed champion definitely.

3097
02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:18,319
Speaker 1: That's my Kingo's future, this speed champion.

3098
02:26:19,799 --> 02:26:20,120
Speaker 3: The way.

3099
02:26:22,719 --> 02:26:26,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can go with the speed title. He said

3100
02:26:26,120 --> 02:26:29,040
he'd been when he's still in a world title before

3101
02:26:29,159 --> 02:26:29,840
to catch.

3102
02:26:29,680 --> 02:26:36,120
Speaker 1: The okay, anything else free agency wise, I think we've

3103
02:26:36,159 --> 02:26:36,600
been them all.

3104
02:26:37,040 --> 02:26:40,440
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I guess that's it. No, Daniel Garcia

3105
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:43,639
of this, this really just kind of the same thing

3106
02:26:43,840 --> 02:26:48,600
every week. Change. It's just like here, it's like they're

3107
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:52,239
they want him or like sources say it's not sources

3108
02:26:52,280 --> 02:26:56,040
to say that he's resigned, like sources hate say that

3109
02:26:56,239 --> 02:26:58,680
they hear people think he's going to resign.

3110
02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and who knows either way. I hope it works

3111
02:27:01,879 --> 02:27:03,280
out for him. Like I said, that's a guy I

3112
02:27:03,360 --> 02:27:06,239
can see in both brands. I personally want him staying,

3113
02:27:06,280 --> 02:27:09,040
aw because there's still some matches I want him to

3114
02:27:09,479 --> 02:27:11,079
have that he hasn't done, Like he hasn't had that

3115
02:27:11,159 --> 02:27:11,520
main event.

3116
02:27:11,639 --> 02:27:16,239
Speaker 2: Right week when when Yuna came out to say, Brian,

3117
02:27:16,399 --> 02:27:20,200
I thought that was those NEARI Garcia like because I

3118
02:27:20,280 --> 02:27:22,120
think he came out in like a hoodie. I thought

3119
02:27:22,159 --> 02:27:22,440
that was.

3120
02:27:24,200 --> 02:27:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, that would have been good. But uh yeah,

3121
02:27:27,000 --> 02:27:29,000
well quickly, I suppose did you have time to do

3122
02:27:29,079 --> 02:27:30,879
any draft points or are we saving that for a.

3123
02:27:30,920 --> 02:27:33,559
Speaker 2: Next I did do it, since there were there wasn't

3124
02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:36,120
really I guess there weren't that many, or it wasn't

3125
02:27:36,200 --> 02:27:38,799
that complicated to do him because a lot of march

3126
02:27:38,920 --> 02:27:40,319
is lost those a lot of ones.

3127
02:27:40,760 --> 02:27:43,319
Speaker 1: Okay, it was with some draft points, and then we'll

3128
02:27:43,319 --> 02:27:45,239
do just say very quick because it's getting lay here,

3129
02:27:45,239 --> 02:27:47,479
We'll do just a quick thoughts on the vent stock

3130
02:27:47,520 --> 02:27:49,040
and then we'll end it all here.

3131
02:27:49,280 --> 02:27:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here already on week twenty seven, so I'm

3132
02:27:52,719 --> 02:27:54,399
on my second page, so I don't have to be

3133
02:27:54,479 --> 02:27:57,959
all ring out and stuff. Yeah, but uh, okay, for

3134
02:27:58,200 --> 02:28:01,639
I guess I'll start with me normal points. I'm at

3135
02:28:01,959 --> 02:28:07,920
three hundred twenty three with two hundred and ninety five

3136
02:28:08,120 --> 02:28:15,520
bonus points. For Travis you are at three hundred and

3137
02:28:15,600 --> 02:28:21,799
seventy three normal points with one hundred and sixty bonus point,

3138
02:28:23,079 --> 02:28:28,200
and then David is at two hundred and fifty eight

3139
02:28:28,399 --> 02:28:33,760
normal points with one hundred eighty five bonus points. Okay,

3140
02:28:34,719 --> 02:28:39,600
and yeah we're getting I guess the next draft change

3141
02:28:39,639 --> 02:28:44,239
up is before Survivor series, right, Okay, so we'll have

3142
02:28:45,639 --> 02:28:46,799
I guess that'll happen here.

3143
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so okay, got some time.

3144
02:28:48,840 --> 02:28:51,639
Speaker 2: I kind of already know I have my I'm writing

3145
02:28:51,799 --> 02:28:54,799
like my list of like people I kind of want

3146
02:28:55,000 --> 02:28:58,239
or people if people draw, because there's there's some like

3147
02:28:58,639 --> 02:29:01,399
every time I look at a due points, I'm like,

3148
02:29:01,520 --> 02:29:05,399
I always swear there's two people particular that like I'm

3149
02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:08,079
always looking like I always check us three for who

3150
02:29:08,239 --> 02:29:12,079
has this person because they always they're always showing up.

3151
02:29:12,440 --> 02:29:15,120
And then I'm like, oh nobody someone dropped them or

3152
02:29:15,239 --> 02:29:18,120
actually no one drafted this person. So I'm like, they're

3153
02:29:18,159 --> 02:29:21,479
definitely top of my my list. It's one person that's like,

3154
02:29:21,959 --> 02:29:25,559
it's crazy that this person was was dropped looking back

3155
02:29:25,600 --> 02:29:27,440
at it, but I won't say who.

3156
02:29:27,959 --> 02:29:32,239
Speaker 1: Oh, no, there we go. We'll see what happens. Savises

3157
02:29:32,239 --> 02:29:34,639
will do an update. Are we doing is that before?

3158
02:29:34,920 --> 02:29:40,200
It's before yeah? Because war is okay, so we'll do that. So, uh,

3159
02:29:41,000 --> 02:29:42,639
I want to start with s Bubbs on this one?

3160
02:29:42,680 --> 02:29:45,319
Did you you've watched the whole doc eye assumed.

3161
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:46,440
Speaker 2: I didn't finish watching those.

3162
02:29:46,559 --> 02:29:48,399
Speaker 1: Okay, so what were your thoughts so far?

3163
02:29:48,760 --> 02:29:51,719
Speaker 2: I think I watched up to I'm not sure if

3164
02:29:51,760 --> 02:29:54,159
it was three or four because I watched a few

3165
02:29:54,280 --> 02:29:58,000
in a row, just like play next episode, so I

3166
02:29:58,079 --> 02:30:01,280
don't remember exactly what one I ended on. I didn't

3167
02:30:01,280 --> 02:30:03,399
watch the whole thing, so I assume it didn't get

3168
02:30:03,479 --> 02:30:06,559
to the end. But I thought it was interesting. It

3169
02:30:06,680 --> 02:30:09,479
was like, like you guys said, like, for you guys,

3170
02:30:09,520 --> 02:30:12,159
I'm sure you knew like all of it, but for me,

3171
02:30:12,239 --> 02:30:14,120
it was like a lot of stuff that i'd like

3172
02:30:14,840 --> 02:30:18,440
heard about or like I knew the names of like

3173
02:30:18,600 --> 02:30:20,840
what happened or who was involved, but I didn't really

3174
02:30:20,959 --> 02:30:23,680
know the extent of it. So for me it was

3175
02:30:23,680 --> 02:30:26,479
still interesting in that way. But then, yeah, it was

3176
02:30:26,520 --> 02:30:29,760
definitely some stuff. It's like I've definitely heard this before.

3177
02:30:29,840 --> 02:30:31,680
I don't really need to hear it again, like the

3178
02:30:32,520 --> 02:30:37,399
like the WrestleMania attendance, or like like the Monday Night

3179
02:30:37,479 --> 02:30:42,399
Wies I didn't know that much about, so that that

3180
02:30:42,600 --> 02:30:45,239
doesn't helped me. But yeah, like Monday Night Wars, like

3181
02:30:45,799 --> 02:30:49,639
Lex Luger working the house, show the Night before Night Drove,

3182
02:30:50,639 --> 02:30:54,239
uh what else? Yeah, definitely get some stuff like in

3183
02:30:54,319 --> 02:30:58,159
each episode that's like covered already, like the screw job.

3184
02:30:58,639 --> 02:31:01,319
That was like a whole episode. Though I didn't think

3185
02:31:01,319 --> 02:31:03,600
what the screw job was interesting how they tied in

3186
02:31:03,799 --> 02:31:08,559
the the other like the one with the woman earlier

3187
02:31:08,680 --> 02:31:12,360
on Wendy Richter. Yeah, that was something I didn't really

3188
02:31:12,600 --> 02:31:13,799
know that much about.

3189
02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:16,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like a good pacing for that, like

3190
02:31:16,600 --> 02:31:18,440
a full circle where you start with that and then

3191
02:31:18,479 --> 02:31:20,440
you end with the Brett think because it it's them

3192
02:31:20,440 --> 02:31:22,920
trying to make Vince, like Vince look like a shitty guy.

3193
02:31:23,040 --> 02:31:25,200
It's like, oh, well, think he's doing this to people, right,

3194
02:31:25,280 --> 02:31:27,600
So it's like, em that was only like twice, And

3195
02:31:27,680 --> 02:31:30,760
I'm not saying it wasn't shitty because like the screwjob

3196
02:31:30,879 --> 02:31:33,799
is that there's things I agree with Vince, because I

3197
02:31:33,879 --> 02:31:36,879
think Brett was being very hard to deal with at

3198
02:31:36,920 --> 02:31:38,920
the same time, like he just fucking hate Shawn Michael.

3199
02:31:39,000 --> 02:31:43,399
So I understand like his his like his what would

3200
02:31:43,440 --> 02:31:46,600
it be called, like his hubris or just his his pride, right,

3201
02:31:46,639 --> 02:31:49,639
he just wanted this guy fucking like he's like he's

3202
02:31:49,760 --> 02:31:52,319
like the devil in my life, and you want me

3203
02:31:52,399 --> 02:31:54,399
to put him all like you because and the same thing.

3204
02:31:54,520 --> 02:31:57,000
Vince also gooda shows anybody else Vince not.

3205
02:31:57,200 --> 02:32:00,600
Speaker 3: Only who he wanted to put him out, but he like,

3206
02:32:00,719 --> 02:32:04,239
you want me to put over this guy in canon, Like,

3207
02:32:05,319 --> 02:32:07,639
because I've heard Brett saying other interviews, he is like,

3208
02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:10,399
I would have done it somewhere else. Yeah, exactly, I

3209
02:32:10,399 --> 02:32:13,120
would have happily done it somewhere else. I asked him

3210
02:32:13,200 --> 02:32:17,319
not to do it here, and he came back and said, no,

3211
02:32:17,520 --> 02:32:18,559
we think we're gonna do it.

3212
02:32:18,879 --> 02:32:21,159
Speaker 1: I would love to Pixar creators to make like an

3213
02:32:21,200 --> 02:32:24,360
inside out movie, but it's like Brett in ninety seven,

3214
02:32:24,559 --> 02:32:26,760
like what his mind was going through in those things

3215
02:32:26,840 --> 02:32:30,760
like the everything happening. But uh no, that's good. So Dave,

3216
02:32:30,799 --> 02:32:32,760
what about you? What how'd you feel about the doc?

3217
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:36,559
Speaker 3: I have a lot of feelings about the doc. First,

3218
02:32:36,760 --> 02:32:41,000
I will I will say this, I love both these gentlemen,

3219
02:32:41,440 --> 02:32:44,360
but I lost some respect for both Sina and Mick

3220
02:32:44,440 --> 02:32:48,479
Foley after watching their interviews. Oh, I get that he

3221
02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:53,760
helped make you famous, but god damn you. Your inability

3222
02:32:53,879 --> 02:32:57,440
to admit that he is a bad person kind of

3223
02:32:58,040 --> 02:33:00,520
rubbed me the wrong way. If any and follows me

3224
02:33:00,600 --> 02:33:03,280
on Twitter, you already know how I feel about Hulk Hogan.

3225
02:33:04,079 --> 02:33:07,200
That has not changed in the wake of this documentary.

3226
02:33:07,719 --> 02:33:11,159
He is a racist and a horrible person. And I

3227
02:33:11,399 --> 02:33:17,200
don't believe one fucking second that half the ship that

3228
02:33:17,319 --> 02:33:19,639
he was trying to make himself out to be, like, oh,

3229
02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:22,879
like you, you lied to the federal government about what

3230
02:33:22,959 --> 02:33:24,600
you were going to say on stand only so you

3231
02:33:24,680 --> 02:33:27,399
could surprise him all the day of and shoot and

3232
02:33:27,680 --> 02:33:29,959
tell them that you know, Vince had nothing to do

3233
02:33:30,079 --> 02:33:33,559
with it, because you save this. You's like, get out here,

3234
02:33:33,760 --> 02:33:38,680
you pomp this arrogant asshole like I did in the

3235
02:33:39,280 --> 02:33:43,280
episode about the screwjob, though I swear I thought Brett's

3236
02:33:43,319 --> 02:33:45,920
wife was going to knock out Triple H.

3237
02:33:46,639 --> 02:33:49,440
Speaker 1: And I was like, first of you had seen that

3238
02:33:49,520 --> 02:33:50,120
clip before.

3239
02:33:51,280 --> 02:33:55,360
Speaker 3: That's the first time I've seen like a bit of

3240
02:33:55,479 --> 02:33:58,559
that clip. I have never seen it where they linger

3241
02:33:59,079 --> 02:34:05,159
on us saying that from the yeah, his reaction and

3242
02:34:05,520 --> 02:34:10,120
kept lingering back on it. And the my single worst,

3243
02:34:10,399 --> 02:34:12,879
the part that sticks out to me the most about

3244
02:34:13,040 --> 02:34:16,239
Events just being one of the worst human beings in

3245
02:34:16,319 --> 02:34:20,920
the world was his line about refereed to when he

3246
02:34:21,239 --> 02:34:26,760
says that the relationship was consensual, that he isn't a rapist,

3247
02:34:27,719 --> 02:34:31,680
but if he did rape her, the statue of limitations

3248
02:34:31,760 --> 02:34:36,280
were was up on that anyway. I was sitting there

3249
02:34:36,719 --> 02:34:41,479
dumbfound it like you fucking you let that come out

3250
02:34:41,520 --> 02:34:44,840
of your mouth that I didn't rape but had I

3251
02:34:45,360 --> 02:34:47,760
stages of limitations are up anyway, It's not. I don't

3252
02:34:47,799 --> 02:34:50,239
know why this is a big deal to you guys, Like.

3253
02:34:52,120 --> 02:34:56,120
Speaker 2: The whole reason he stepped down the first time, right

3254
02:34:56,520 --> 02:34:57,680
because they did like the.

3255
02:34:58,319 --> 02:34:59,120
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't the.

3256
02:35:00,639 --> 02:35:03,440
Speaker 3: The referee tho, I mean it was, it wasn't.

3257
02:35:03,280 --> 02:35:05,920
Speaker 2: That, but like the statue of limitations, that's why did

3258
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:06,760
the payouts?

3259
02:35:07,479 --> 02:35:11,159
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, he did payouts instead of other stuff going on.

3260
02:35:11,319 --> 02:35:13,719
And that's for me. With the dog, it's funny, like

3261
02:35:14,239 --> 02:35:16,680
at times it plays like a borat movie because the

3262
02:35:16,760 --> 02:35:19,520
stuff they got him to say, like before he left

3263
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:23,239
it think it's almost comedic of when they talked about that.

3264
02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:25,559
There's the interviewings ago. I have three minds, ones like

3265
02:35:25,600 --> 02:35:27,799
a work minds. One's a personal mind that it wasn't there,

3266
02:35:28,319 --> 02:35:30,399
wants it wants to do computers that wants to do

3267
02:35:30,399 --> 02:35:32,280
something in appropriate, and someone with sex it's just like

3268
02:35:32,600 --> 02:35:35,559
it literally feels like an SNL skin of like like

3269
02:35:35,760 --> 02:35:39,440
this like how like it's just they got some good

3270
02:35:39,840 --> 02:35:40,879
like clips.

3271
02:35:40,559 --> 02:35:42,600
Speaker 3: And one liner they did say.

3272
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:43,719
Speaker 1: On a lot of those.

3273
02:35:44,479 --> 02:35:47,319
Speaker 3: What happened was they would ask him some questions and

3274
02:35:47,399 --> 02:35:50,479
he would give like the pre programmed answers and things

3275
02:35:50,520 --> 02:35:53,280
like that, and then they would just let the camera

3276
02:35:53,479 --> 02:35:57,040
roll and not ask a follow up. Yeah, and after

3277
02:35:57,079 --> 02:36:00,680
a while he would be compelled to just keep talking

3278
02:36:00,719 --> 02:36:02,559
because he didn't know what to do with the silence,

3279
02:36:02,600 --> 02:36:05,360
and then that's when he would say the dumb thing.

3280
02:36:06,440 --> 02:36:10,920
So each there were so many times where she's like, oh, oh,

3281
02:36:11,239 --> 02:36:15,520
this is nah, You're just you're a bad person. I

3282
02:36:15,760 --> 02:36:21,440
did man Paul Hayman's story about Shane and Vince with

3283
02:36:21,639 --> 02:36:24,600
the knife, and he's like, you're gonna have to if

3284
02:36:24,639 --> 02:36:26,559
you don't, I know, you don't have it in you.

3285
02:36:26,680 --> 02:36:30,399
I'm like, god damn. Like I knew Shane had some

3286
02:36:30,600 --> 02:36:32,639
issues with Vince and that's why he left. I knew

3287
02:36:32,680 --> 02:36:35,239
he wanted to go make a name for himself. He

3288
02:36:35,319 --> 02:36:37,840
went over to China, did really great in business. Like

3289
02:36:37,920 --> 02:36:40,719
I knew all of this stuff, I did not know

3290
02:36:41,239 --> 02:36:43,639
just how much Vince was like, I am not going

3291
02:36:43,719 --> 02:36:45,680
to show you what it's like to have a father

3292
02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:47,719
because I didn't have a father, so I didn't have it.

3293
02:36:47,920 --> 02:36:49,280
Fuck you, you're not getting it.

3294
02:36:50,159 --> 02:36:52,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, if any anyone out there and your dad has

3295
02:36:52,239 --> 02:36:53,600
a knife and he's telling you to be a man,

3296
02:36:53,639 --> 02:36:55,520
you gotta stab him. It's not it's not it's not

3297
02:36:55,639 --> 02:36:59,760
the regular relationship you're supposed to have with your your parents.

3298
02:36:59,799 --> 02:37:01,479
And yeah, it's so funny because you could tell the

3299
02:37:01,600 --> 02:37:04,879
ending of that doc was saying, like Shane centric because

3300
02:37:04,920 --> 02:37:06,920
it's all about him coming back and then they find

3301
02:37:06,959 --> 02:37:09,200
a way to hug and everything. But like then the

3302
02:37:09,239 --> 02:37:11,000
episode six happens where it's a go and then all

3303
02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:13,280
these lawsuits but it's like they're definitely trying to dovetaell

3304
02:37:13,280 --> 02:37:15,000
it with Shane, which is like, I think it's a

3305
02:37:15,040 --> 02:37:17,879
good enough story and everything like that. But yeah, it's

3306
02:37:17,920 --> 02:37:20,440
been interesting to see the reaction. I even overheard people

3307
02:37:20,479 --> 02:37:22,840
the gym mother they talk about, and that's where for

3308
02:37:22,959 --> 02:37:25,959
me it's completely because it's like us sposedly there's people

3309
02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:28,360
like even less than you there in wrestling that everyone

3310
02:37:28,440 --> 02:37:31,680
that's like general audience or have never watched wrestling have

3311
02:37:31,920 --> 02:37:33,840
just like said, really great things about it, and that's

3312
02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:35,920
where I just go. And even the Netflix guy did say, like, oh,

3313
02:37:36,000 --> 02:37:39,360
we made it for people that are gonna never seen

3314
02:37:39,399 --> 02:37:41,520
this first to people have watched it their whole lives,

3315
02:37:41,600 --> 02:37:44,000
And from that perspective, I think overall it's like a

3316
02:37:45,399 --> 02:37:48,319
very well made dog. So from me as a wrestling fan,

3317
02:37:48,479 --> 02:37:50,920
didn't learn too much more from it. I think there's

3318
02:37:51,000 --> 02:37:53,520
some things that I wish they focused more on. And

3319
02:37:53,600 --> 02:37:55,239
that's where it's like my critiques as far as just

3320
02:37:55,319 --> 02:37:57,159
like watching it. Even a's like if you weren't a

3321
02:37:57,159 --> 02:37:59,479
wrestling fan, and I guess it's tough, right, Like there's

3322
02:37:59,520 --> 02:38:01,479
tough where it Like for me, there's one segment where

3323
02:38:01,479 --> 02:38:02,760
it's like, oh, we're gonna explain to you why we

3324
02:38:02,840 --> 02:38:05,200
did the Rock and whole Cogan WrestleMania. It's like, what's

3325
02:38:05,239 --> 02:38:07,079
this gonna do with Vince? Like this is like why

3326
02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:09,000
is this ten minutes of like them talking about like

3327
02:38:09,040 --> 02:38:13,000
this iconic matchup. Like I think too, it's if I

3328
02:38:13,079 --> 02:38:14,959
would have been pitch of like, hey, this is a

3329
02:38:15,239 --> 02:38:17,840
ww documentary done by Netflix, but we got lots of

3330
02:38:17,879 --> 02:38:20,520
interviews with Vince, my mind would have been different. But

3331
02:38:20,639 --> 02:38:22,959
because it was pitches the Vince Doc. Like even like

3332
02:38:23,680 --> 02:38:25,760
that whole segment about I get why they got to

3333
02:38:25,760 --> 02:38:27,319
explain whole Cogan was, but I felt like he was

3334
02:38:27,399 --> 02:38:29,680
too long to explaining like who he is. He wasn't

3335
02:38:29,680 --> 02:38:33,159
Awa and he's wrestled Andre before. It's like, I don't

3336
02:38:33,200 --> 02:38:35,600
need all this. And then my other critique as far

3337
02:38:35,680 --> 02:38:37,520
as like if I was just watching it, like as

3338
02:38:37,559 --> 02:38:39,920
a non wrestling gan, I just wish they asked. And

3339
02:38:40,159 --> 02:38:42,280
it's tough because we talked about on After nine as well.

3340
02:38:42,280 --> 02:38:44,959
It's brought up where the guy said that like they've

3341
02:38:45,079 --> 02:38:48,040
interviewed him and times they couldn't use the clips because

3342
02:38:48,079 --> 02:38:50,079
his voice was sound like a frog and he wouldn't

3343
02:38:50,440 --> 02:38:52,680
cooperate and stuff. So it is tough, but there's just

3344
02:38:52,760 --> 02:38:54,479
times where I wish they pushed him a bit more

3345
02:38:54,559 --> 02:38:56,799
on some personal stuff because I just feel like, like,

3346
02:38:57,239 --> 02:39:00,280
you know what it feel like WrestleMania and they're like, well, work,

3347
02:39:00,319 --> 02:39:01,920
we're broke, and it's like, kind it's like, well, what

3348
02:39:02,040 --> 02:39:03,479
was the actually like what was the feeling? Like, what

3349
02:39:03,559 --> 02:39:05,280
did you feel at the end? I would have asked,

3350
02:39:05,319 --> 02:39:07,360
like at the end of that night whenever everyone was

3351
02:39:07,399 --> 02:39:09,520
going and blah blah blah, every wrestler was home. What

3352
02:39:09,600 --> 02:39:11,399
did you feel at the end of that night you're

3353
02:39:11,479 --> 02:39:13,319
just alone like stuff like that, or even the nights

3354
02:39:13,360 --> 02:39:15,600
with Eddie or Ben Wall, like I know he's like,

3355
02:39:15,639 --> 02:39:17,559
oh Chris went nuts and no, that's life. And it's

3356
02:39:17,639 --> 02:39:19,879
like like what, no, what where were you when you

3357
02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:22,000
got that call? What was your feeling? You clearly had

3358
02:39:22,040 --> 02:39:24,680
a relationship with this guy, especially Eddie too. It's like

3359
02:39:24,920 --> 02:39:26,879
there's so many clips of them hugging and being close.

3360
02:39:26,959 --> 02:39:28,600
It's like, what did you feel when you live? So

3361
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:30,600
I thought there's ways they could have made him feel

3362
02:39:30,639 --> 02:39:33,079
personal and not be like in a gotcha No, I'm like, uh,

3363
02:39:33,440 --> 02:39:35,440
you know, what did you feel when this person accused

3364
02:39:35,440 --> 02:39:36,360
you for sexual assault?

3365
02:39:36,399 --> 02:39:36,440
Speaker 2: No?

3366
02:39:36,639 --> 02:39:39,239
Speaker 1: Just like life stuff of Yeah, what did it feel like?

3367
02:39:39,920 --> 02:39:41,840
What would have been your plan if WrestleMania were like

3368
02:39:41,959 --> 02:39:44,799
I think there's just certain things where not even gotcha stuff,

3369
02:39:44,840 --> 02:39:46,479
I would have hit on him because it's like he

3370
02:39:46,520 --> 02:39:48,559
would have been able to answer that stuff because it's

3371
02:39:48,559 --> 02:39:50,239
not like, oh, I'm not in trouble, but then they

3372
02:39:50,280 --> 02:39:53,360
got him. Yeah, talking about rear chad, radio chatter, tins

3373
02:39:53,479 --> 02:39:56,399
or other stuff like the road, the computer, and like

3374
02:39:56,479 --> 02:39:59,520
you said, it's Vince just like talking. But overall, I

3375
02:39:59,559 --> 02:40:01,399
think it's well made doc. I think it's one of

3376
02:40:01,399 --> 02:40:04,360
those two where episodes sick is tough because like the

3377
02:40:04,440 --> 02:40:07,120
trial hasn't happened, so it ends on like a weird

3378
02:40:07,280 --> 02:40:10,280
like this stuff's going on and that's the end of

3379
02:40:10,280 --> 02:40:12,600
the dock. It feels very much like a to be

3380
02:40:12,719 --> 02:40:15,040
continued and maybe they will make more, but it's tough

3381
02:40:15,079 --> 02:40:17,600
because like ww's going to business with them soon, so

3382
02:40:17,680 --> 02:40:20,600
I just I just doubt they're like they're gonna want

3383
02:40:20,639 --> 02:40:22,799
to do that again, like a Vince Part two how

3384
02:40:22,840 --> 02:40:25,680
they did like Tiger King and everything. So overall, I

3385
02:40:25,719 --> 02:40:27,920
think it is a well made dog. It's not like

3386
02:40:28,079 --> 02:40:29,959
the be all End like I was hoping it was

3387
02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:32,600
gonna be, but it was still a good time. So yeah.

3388
02:40:32,959 --> 02:40:35,840
Speaker 3: Now there is the report that Vince is trying to

3389
02:40:36,840 --> 02:40:40,680
buy back his rights to make his own counter document

3390
02:40:40,959 --> 02:40:44,520
and how unfair the document was, and I'm like, you're

3391
02:40:44,639 --> 02:40:47,479
the same guy who made the destruction of the self,

3392
02:40:47,559 --> 02:40:50,879
destruction of the Ultimate Warrior, Like yeah, I don't need

3393
02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:55,200
you talking about unfair documentaries and all this other stuff,

3394
02:40:55,440 --> 02:41:01,000
Like we've seen how you have restructured certain things in

3395
02:41:01,159 --> 02:41:03,760
order to fit your narrative. But now I agree with

3396
02:41:03,840 --> 02:41:07,920
you on getting more personal. Like they mentioned how towards

3397
02:41:07,959 --> 02:41:11,760
the end of the show that they were doing the

3398
02:41:11,840 --> 02:41:14,079
Chrispin Wall tribute is when they start to find out

3399
02:41:14,159 --> 02:41:16,360
more and more about what happened with Chrismin Wall. I

3400
02:41:16,399 --> 02:41:20,120
would have loved for someone to ask him what pivot

3401
02:41:20,280 --> 02:41:22,399
did you have to make in that moment? Like how

3402
02:41:22,479 --> 02:41:24,639
were you feeling as you were doing this show and

3403
02:41:24,719 --> 02:41:27,399
you start to find this out, like get that detail

3404
02:41:27,440 --> 02:41:30,639
because you hear all these stories about how they're constantly

3405
02:41:30,719 --> 02:41:33,440
writing and rewriting the show up until it starts. I

3406
02:41:33,479 --> 02:41:36,760
would love to know what pivot? Did you have time

3407
02:41:36,879 --> 02:41:40,319
to process what happened with this wrestler of yours or

3408
02:41:40,479 --> 02:41:43,040
did you immediately have to go into damage control? Here's

3409
02:41:43,040 --> 02:41:46,719
what we're doing blah blah blah. Because especially as robotic

3410
02:41:46,840 --> 02:41:49,959
as he sounded about Owen's death and how that hey

3411
02:41:50,040 --> 02:41:52,479
paid people paid to see a show, so I had

3412
02:41:52,479 --> 02:41:53,120
to give him a show.

3413
02:41:53,200 --> 02:41:56,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, God, if he believes that, that's

3414
02:41:56,959 --> 02:41:59,159
a time where you should just bite the bull, but yeah,

3415
02:41:59,159 --> 02:42:01,639
we should have stopped the show. And like it's just

3416
02:42:01,840 --> 02:42:03,719
like they just I felt like they gave him so

3417
02:42:03,840 --> 02:42:06,840
many chances to like, yeah, but you would have now

3418
02:42:06,959 --> 02:42:09,360
retrospective to stop the show, like, well, no, what if

3419
02:42:09,399 --> 02:42:11,239
it was your son? Well you know that's different. What

3420
02:42:11,399 --> 02:42:13,200
was my son? It's like, okay, what if it was you?

3421
02:42:13,479 --> 02:42:15,239
I wanted to take the show, like they felt like

3422
02:42:15,360 --> 02:42:18,120
they cave force off falls of just like say you

3423
02:42:18,200 --> 02:42:20,000
regret it. It's like, say you wouldn't have done the

3424
02:42:20,000 --> 02:42:22,040
show because like when they show those clips and the

3425
02:42:22,079 --> 02:42:23,959
people are wrestling, no one's blood's right there, it's like,

3426
02:42:24,040 --> 02:42:26,040
fuck this iseg and they're showing Jared. It's just like

3427
02:42:26,479 --> 02:42:29,120
this sucks, man, Like this is really bad. Like again,

3428
02:42:29,200 --> 02:42:31,479
it's just but I feel like sometimes they did try

3429
02:42:31,520 --> 02:42:34,639
to help him out, but he just you know, it's

3430
02:42:34,879 --> 02:42:38,360
it's the way Vince is about the counter dog. Don't

3431
02:42:38,399 --> 02:42:40,680
do it. Just sit at home, try not to go

3432
02:42:40,719 --> 02:42:43,840
to prison and enjoy your billions of dollars, you know, yeah.

3433
02:42:43,760 --> 02:42:46,079
Speaker 3: Like enjoy it while you have it before all the

3434
02:42:46,159 --> 02:42:48,680
civil suits start rolling through and you lose all your money.

3435
02:42:48,760 --> 02:42:52,399
But right now, spend it. Live it up, because I

3436
02:42:52,479 --> 02:42:55,680
mean it is over for you. There is no saving

3437
02:42:55,760 --> 02:42:58,719
your name, my guy. There there is no saving your name.

3438
02:42:59,079 --> 02:43:04,040
You're up year, like you're at the upper echellent of

3439
02:43:04,399 --> 02:43:08,959
very bad business people, Like you're not Epstein Ditty level,

3440
02:43:09,040 --> 02:43:11,959
but you're you're working your way up there. As more

3441
02:43:12,040 --> 02:43:15,479
stuff gets revealed, I would sit at home and be quiet.

3442
02:43:16,120 --> 02:43:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, as Joe on that is, we're almost going

3443
02:43:19,719 --> 02:43:21,479
on three hours longer than I even thought it was

3444
02:43:21,520 --> 02:43:23,920
gonna be about that happens tangents and everything. So yeah,

3445
02:43:23,920 --> 02:43:26,920
we will be back for not the uh, not the

3446
02:43:27,000 --> 02:43:29,639
Saudi Show because I looked that's uh, that's normal. A second,

3447
02:43:29,719 --> 02:43:32,120
that's Extra Life, that's a charity stream, so I won't

3448
02:43:32,159 --> 02:43:33,600
be making another geek first people be like, hey, I

3449
02:43:33,639 --> 02:43:36,879
gotta watch. I gotta see who's the Crown Drill Champion.

3450
02:43:37,000 --> 02:43:40,040
Sorry kids, But so yeah, maybe like the weekend after that,

3451
02:43:40,280 --> 02:43:41,959
or the week or two after that, because we kind

3452
02:43:42,000 --> 02:43:44,239
of find that in between because we do predictions for

3453
02:43:44,319 --> 02:43:45,879
Survivor series, but then also like the.

3454
02:43:45,959 --> 02:43:48,440
Speaker 2: Draft and everything, it's a full gear.

3455
02:43:49,639 --> 02:43:54,399
Speaker 1: November something because Survivor series is at the end of November, right, yeah,

3456
02:43:54,440 --> 02:43:56,920
full gear. It'd be great if I could line up

3457
02:43:56,959 --> 02:43:59,760
so we could hit them both. Maybe that's uh November

3458
02:43:59,799 --> 02:44:04,479
twenty third and win that's the week after, right, yeah, okay,

3459
02:44:04,559 --> 02:44:05,440
so yeah, maybe we'll.

3460
02:44:05,280 --> 02:44:08,559
Speaker 2: Wait here, so the week before that's probably like the

3461
02:44:08,680 --> 02:44:10,440
second week of November around there.

3462
02:44:11,000 --> 02:44:12,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, because then we can do predictions

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for them both and kind of talk and we can

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talk about Crown Jewel. I don't think anything's gonna be

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big from that show, Like we'll talk about like, of course,

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like a great match hope with Cody and Gunther, but

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like Gunther being Crown Jewel Champions, not gonna like Viet maale.

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Speaker 2: A man, and I guess that would be after n

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XT Halloween havocs.

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Speaker 1: Will be yeah, and Brian should be retired by that point.

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So yeah, look for that. Look for probably the second

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week in November, we'll be doing that and we'll be updated.

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So yeah, thank you gentlemen for joining me here. This

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was a fun one. Let's hopefully got some good bloodline

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stuff to talk about next time we're back. See what's

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going on with the Final Boss. You know, see what

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other fake belts he's gonna he's going with that Crown

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Jewel a belt too. Just put me in there with Cody.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna be walking around like Ultimore Dragon with.

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Speaker 1: All the belts all made ones too by him, and

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you know so well. LeZion, thank you very much for

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listening to this. We'll be back next month and will

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not be boring my