WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of Bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. 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It's free to subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 So what are you waiting for visit www dot Untold 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.560 Radio Network dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.120 on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something to 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.079 kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through the or 26 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:20.079 over the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn, 27 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.640 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 28 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.280 over the fence, and NA would have dead once you 29 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:26.359 hit the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I 30 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:45.120 saw was my dog coming over the fence. What are 31 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.959 you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling around 32 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:59.560 out here? Did you see what it was? It enough 33 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:01.519 out here. Look, I'm near the window now and I 34 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:08.840 don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. It's quiere. Hello, 35 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:12.759 hit the boddy out here? What went on out there? 36 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:15.319 I thought off a bit of about Sect nine. I 37 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:18.199 don't know easy out there. Yeah, I'm walking right away. 38 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:21.879 IMS going to welcome Carl from Arizona back to the 39 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:22.719 show for round two. 40 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:25.400 Welcome back, man, Hey, glad to be back. 41 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:27.639 I am glad to have you. Let's get right into it. 42 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:29.840 You've been talking about your experiences. Let's go on to 43 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:30.599 the next one. 44 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:35.240 It was twenty fourteen. My daughter was just finishing up 45 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:38.719 her first year at Northern Arizona University. I was going 46 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:41.039 to drive up, so it was like maybe second week 47 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:44.960 of May. The research area that I normally go to 48 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:47.360 it just opened up. The snow melt had finished, so 49 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:49.919 the roads were open. I didn't even see one vehicle 50 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:51.560 when I was up there. Of course, it was still 51 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:54.560 like forty forty five degrees out during the day and 52 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.120 there was still snow in patches in areas. So on 53 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:59.400 the drive up the flag staff, I actually decided to 54 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.479 swing path asked, it's not really a swing it takes 55 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:05.960 effort to get there. Nevertheless, I drove back into my 56 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:09.599 research area, parked, and decided I only had limited time, 57 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:12.039 so I thought I'll just find some kind of a 58 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:15.719 game trail or something to get down into the canyon 59 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:18.400 into the area where I had my second sighting. I 60 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:22.439 actually got my camera out and everything, little flip handheld camera, 61 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:24.439 so I'm looking at the little screen in front of 62 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:27.240 my face, and as I'm walking down to the canyon, 63 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.960 I start realizing the wind was blowing and it was 64 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:33.319 pretty cold the mid forties. I'm walking down that game 65 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:36.240 trail and I realized that the wind was blowing west 66 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.879 to east away from the canyon, so if there was 67 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:43.159 any scent from myself, it wouldn't be detected because it 68 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.960 was blowing the opposite direction. Plus, the game trail had 69 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:50.719 complete cover all the way down to the meadow floor. 70 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:55.159 So I get down to the bottom of this game trail, 71 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:58.680 which I really hadn't used previously. I get down to 72 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.680 the bottom, and before I step out past all the 73 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.439 greenery that was hiding the game for it, I'm looking 74 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:08.439 to the south with my camera. I'm just scanning, looking 75 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:10.840 to see if there's any movement whatsoever. But I'm holding 76 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:12.439 the camera way out in the front. Out of the 77 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.560 corner of my eye, I see some motion to my right. 78 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:18.720 I didn't swing the camera around, although if I had, 79 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:20.639 he probably would have seen me on the news for that. 80 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.240 But I just turned my head, so I'm filming this 81 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:26.279 direction slowly. I just looked over that way, and as 82 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:30.319 I'm looking in that direction, I see really what looks 83 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:32.639 like more of a stump, but it was a sasquatch 84 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:37.600 squatted way down where almost touching the ground, knees up 85 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:42.160 in a knee up position between its legs. It was 86 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.600 digging in the ground at the base of this fallen tree, 87 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:49.480 and he maybe only did two three more little digs 88 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:52.639 like that, and then suddenly went and looked straight up 89 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:56.560 at me. Our eyes locked. I remember just it was 90 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:00.639 about one hundred and twenty feet away. It seemed like minutes. 91 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:02.800 It seemed like three minutes. It was more probably like 92 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:07.600 three seconds of our eyes locked. Then he jumped up, 93 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.040 and he came up from that squatting position with his 94 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:13.600 butt almost on the ground and knees up towards the sky. 95 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.319 I don't know if you can picture that, but just 96 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.160 erupted out, come pack down on the ground. He was 97 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.839 just a ball, right. It wasn't noticeable. If he had 98 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:26.439 actually remained completely still, I probably wouldn't have It would 99 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:28.759 have taken me a while to see him sitting there 100 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:32.800 because he blended in. But he just erupted out of 101 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:38.000 that squatting position into the air, and his first step 102 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.680 was six feet away from where he was squatted. Then 103 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.079 he took one more step and then was into the 104 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:48.680 deep brush. So it was just like that. He was 105 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:52.399 gone at that exact same moment. I'm swinging the camera 106 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:54.759 around to get him, so all you can hear on 107 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:58.240 the video is just crash boom, crash boom, as he's 108 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.759 just ripping through the brush. It was crazy. But I 109 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:05.000 can't forget the face right. The eyes were dark, no 110 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:08.600 whites of the eyes at all. The skin was not 111 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.160 black right, and there wasn't a lot of hair on 112 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:14.079 the face. If it was beard wise for me, it'd 113 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:17.319 probably be up to hear. It was a dark gray skin, 114 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:21.120 so not gun metal gray, a little darker. It's like 115 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:24.639 he didn't blink. It was just these almost like goggles 116 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.399 that were on. And then as he jumped, as he 117 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:31.120 came out of that squat position and twisted in order 118 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.199 to take that first step six feet away. I will 119 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:37.319 just say that they are not circumcised, shared the same 120 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:41.360 skin coloring. It was quite memorable. Now I didn't at 121 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:45.199 that moment because I knew that probably there may be 122 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:48.279 others in the area. I wasn't going to just run 123 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:50.879 over there or chase them or whatever. And I just 124 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:52.839 stood there in shock for a minute. And of course 125 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:57.360 now I'm turned this direction with the camera and to 126 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:00.360 my left where I had been filming initially, all of 127 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:04.519 a sudden, now crash boom, crash boom, going up the 128 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:07.639 hill out of the canyon. So there was two other 129 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:11.560 individuals just to the south of me that took off 130 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.000 up the hill through the brush. I walked down the 131 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:17.360 canyon quite a ways. I looked in areas where we 132 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:21.199 had previously found the baby footprints all over the place, 133 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:24.000 and there weren't any footprints at all down in that 134 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:26.839 snow melt mud. Of course, there was no tracks from 135 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:29.879 wads or anything else in that area. Then I walked 136 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:33.319 back towards my car, and before I went back up 137 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:35.959 that game trail, I went over and that's where I 138 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:38.000 did all the measurements and stuff. But it looks like 139 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:42.120 he was eating the small fern. When the ferns come out, 140 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:46.000 they're just little, and he was basically digging those out 141 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:48.560 and eating them. Because there was several of them that 142 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:51.240 were laying out there on the ground. That was an 143 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:54.959 interesting thing. Nearby, within probably fifty feet of that, there 144 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:57.600 was a deer skull and it was just laying there, 145 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:01.079 upside down, no other parts of the deer anywhere else. 146 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:04.279 When I saw it, I thought, I think probably the 147 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:07.319 Sasquatch had handled it, or at least brought it there 148 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:10.480 for some reason. It could have just been laying there, 149 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:12.120 but it was just odd that there was no other 150 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:16.240 pieces of it at all nearby, so I got a 151 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.800 bag out of my pack. Thankfully I carry a couple 152 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.079 of really large bags as well, so I bagged the 153 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:26.240 deer skull without touching it, just through the plastic. Brought 154 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:29.199 that home because I knew that I have a friend 155 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:34.840 who can actually touch objects and get feelings, reference names 156 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:38.360 and stuff. Psychometry's what it's called. So I actually had 157 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:42.399 her handle the deer scull. From that, she had some 158 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:44.559 pretty interesting readings and I know she's got that up 159 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:47.600 on her website ghost onnythories dot com. She said it 160 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:50.679 was the most unusual thing that she's ever touched because 161 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:56.720 it gave her this odd vision. It was like different 162 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:59.720 eyesight that she saw, which she didn't know what the 163 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:02.519 heck she was looking as whether or not you believe. 164 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:06.159 And at this point I hadn't had any WU type experiences, 165 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:07.840 but it was one of those things where I know 166 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:11.039 somebody who can touch objects, I'm going to pick up. 167 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.039 I'm going to collect that bear skull. So it was 168 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.360 one of those spur of the moment decisions that I 169 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.399 made there. That was my sixth siding, so that was 170 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:20.960 quite the time. But I had been assigned to a 171 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:23.840 project soon after that, where I was in Long Island, 172 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:27.960 New York. Initially about six months in Manhattan. I didn't 173 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.679 even go looking in Manhattan. In case anybody wonders. I know, 174 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.039 when I talk about Long Island, people say there is 175 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:38.039 just no way that there's any bigfoot on Long Island. 176 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:39.759 There's too many people. I'm like, have you ever been 177 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:44.519 on Long Island? No, Or I've been to Brooklyn. I'm like, 178 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:48.240 get out of here. Once they relocated me from Manhattan 179 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:51.960 on the project, not the Manhattan Project, out to the 180 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:54.480 middle of Long Island, I started doing some research. I 181 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:58.080 was like, this area actually could support them. So I 182 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:02.080 probably spent the first couple of months moving further west 183 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:06.559 in my evenings after work, doing research in different open areas. 184 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:10.000 Further west you go, the more populated it was. That 185 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.480 was unsuccessful. I didn't find any signs of them at all. 186 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:15.840 But I went on and look for different sightings that 187 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:19.120 had occurred in the past. The only sighting I could 188 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:23.240 find was from eighteen ninety nine at Rockaway Beach, which 189 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:26.279 is in the southwest corner of Long Island. I think 190 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.039 that sighting might be a little stale fit. All my 191 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:33.360 parameters of the way I searched. My final trudge to 192 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:36.840 the west was in the Boyster Bay area, and I 193 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:39.240 didn't find anything up in that area except for Theta 194 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.200 Roosevelt's home. One night, sitting at the hotel room doing research, 195 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:45.200 trying to figure out where I need to go next, 196 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:49.919 I decided that I'm going to look at paranormal websites 197 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:53.759 ghost hunting websites. Sure enough, I ran across some articles 198 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.279 that talk about where this group had gone. There was 199 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:03.039 stories of this whose child had died and she drowned 200 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:05.799 in the creek from that forest. Still today you can 201 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:08.759 hear more in full treats, and sometimes you can see 202 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:12.720 red eyes in the woods. Rocks would materialize from nowhere 203 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:14.879 in the dark and were thrown at our group and 204 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:17.600 so forth. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, right, 205 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.679 So I was like, I'm going to start hitting those 206 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:25.120 areas as well. I ended up finding the first area 207 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:30.639 that was near me was really bordered a corporate complex 208 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:32.559 that was right across the street from the hotel that 209 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:35.320 I was in, really close. I went over there with 210 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.039 a flashlight but the headlamp and it was still dark. 211 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:40.159 I went into that area. I was like, Oh, this 212 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:44.200 is actually ideal. They can transit across this area no problem, 213 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:47.799 they can stay hidden, and there's food and opportunity to 214 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:52.159 dumpster dive, even at the corporate center. So I came 215 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:56.200 back in the morning. I stopped by the hotel's concierge 216 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:59.720 a couple of apples, and I took them out into 217 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:03.399 the wood. And this is my first attempt at the gifteing. 218 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:06.600 So I get into the woods and I go fairly 219 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:08.720 deep in there, but of course I'm still on my 220 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:11.840 way to work. I place the apples. I come back 221 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:15.279 in the evening after work, and the apple's are still 222 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:17.440 sitting there. When the next day, apples are still there. 223 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:19.360 In the morning, the apples are still there in the evening. 224 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:21.960 Didn't move it all. So I ended up flying back 225 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:25.200 home on the Thursday night, and I come back on 226 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:28.559 Sunday night. Before I even check into the hotel, I 227 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.279 go into the woods check and the apple's gone, right, 228 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:37.000 So something Friday, Saturday, Sunday day took the apple right. 229 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:40.240 The next morning, I take another apple and I go 230 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:43.559 place it out there. At night when I got off work, 231 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:47.559 the apple's gone. So I'm like, Okay, now I got 232 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:50.360 to figure out what's going on, right, So I repeated 233 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.159 that through the week, apple was gone every day and 234 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:54.200 there was no crumbs on the ground, that there was 235 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:57.039 no evidence that if it was a squirrel or then 236 00:12:57.080 --> 00:13:01.120 a large bird possibly, but there was just no evidence 237 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:04.360 anywhere near of pieces of the apple. I went back 238 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:06.879 home that next week, came back and this time I 239 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:10.200 brought my game camera with so I set up the 240 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.840 game camera with the apple. Sat there for two days, 241 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:16.679 and then the apple was gone. So I checked the 242 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.639 game camera and I see a squirrel chewing on and 243 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:22.759 of course, and I did find pieces of that apple 244 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:26.320 on the ground. But the squirrel comes by and starts 245 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:29.559 chewing on the apple and then struggles to try to 246 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:32.039 haul it off after a little bit. Okay, all right, 247 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:34.960 maybe I'll set this up again. Right before I leave 248 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:37.960 on Thursday, check out of the hotel. I'll set an 249 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:40.200 apple out there. I'll leave my game camera here over 250 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:43.440 the weekend. I had it strip apped tightly to a tree. 251 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:45.840 And I think you probably if you've ever used a 252 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.840 game camera, it's not budging. It was really interesting that 253 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:53.240 there was some wind. Small leaves would just move a 254 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:54.960 little bit when the picture and it would trigger the 255 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:57.480 video and the apple's just sitting there. So the apple 256 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:01.639 sat there all the way until night about two am, 257 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:07.159 when it recorded maybe a dozen fourteen little clips of 258 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.679 just where wind moved a branch or something, and it 259 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:13.879 triggered the camera. About two thirty in the morning, the 260 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:19.720 camera suddenly shifts, It gets turned, it gets twisted onto 261 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:22.919 the tree that it's strapped to, moved it over maybe 262 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.360 about an inch and a half. It even had little 263 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:27.360 posts in the back of my camera, so it left 264 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:31.279 scratch merks where the camera slid, but it was still 265 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:34.519 pointing at the apple where the apple was, so I 266 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:37.720 was like, something will happen next, And about a half 267 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:41.480 hour later, you can see there's a slight breeze, the 268 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:45.039 wind moves a quig a little bit, and then it stops. 269 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:51.320 Then probably an hour later, the apple's there. Apple's not there. 270 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:56.080 It literally just disappeared. You couldn't even see anything take it. 271 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:59.519 And I'm like, okay, that's unusual, right, And I thought, 272 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.960 obviously they don't like game cameras. That was my first lesson, 273 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:06.879 and I ended up pretty much abandoning those after a 274 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:10.000 while because it just really interfered with the interaction. So 275 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.960 I never did that again. That week. Now that I 276 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:15.840 was back and had retrieved the camera. On Monday, I 277 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.279 set up an apple in this nook of this tree. 278 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:23.000 I went to work and stay tuned for more sasquatch 279 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:25.519 out to sea. We'll be right back after these messages. 280 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:33.279 I come back Monday at lunch just to check on 281 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:35.840 the apple. I come in there and the apple's gone. 282 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.320 Now I had placed it about eight am, and here 283 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:42.039 it is noon. The apple's gone. And in that nook 284 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:44.799 of the tree, which is up off the ground, there's 285 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:49.399 a small polished quartz rock sitting up in that nook. 286 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.240 I was excited. I can't believe took the apple and 287 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:56.759 replaced it with this piece of polish courts right. So 288 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:58.519 I run back to the office and I take a 289 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:00.240 picture of it. I send it to some of the 290 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:02.159 other researcher friends of mine. I'm like, I can't believe 291 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.320 this was my first gift. And they were like, oh, 292 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:06.559 you should put it back, put it back where it was. 293 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.000 And I think they gifted it to me and said, oh, 294 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.360 you should put it back. I was like, okay. This 295 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:14.440 person had been out of the field a little longer 296 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:16.759 than myself, so I was like, that's fine, I'll try that. 297 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:19.279 I went back, I put it back, actually had lunch, 298 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:21.279 and I was going to put it back in the 299 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:24.799 nook of that tree where it was. Then I decided, no, 300 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.120 you know what, and there was a tree stump where 301 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:30.440 a small tree had broken off about halfway up. I 302 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:32.919 went over there and I put it about twenty feet away, 303 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:36.080 just sitting on top of that tree stump. I come 304 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:40.080 back that evening. It's no longer sitting on that tree stump. 305 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:44.039 It's back up exactly where I had the apple earlier 306 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.639 that day. That's why I realized, no, it definitely wants 307 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:50.240 me to keep this. That really started a collection over 308 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:53.120 time of gifts that I had gotten in different states 309 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.039 as well. It's an interesting attitude that they have that 310 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:58.799 continued for a while. I was getting gifts, I was 311 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:02.080 putting out apples and so forth. Pretty Soon it started 312 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:04.559 getting really cold and there was a pretty good snowfall. 313 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.680 I didn't get off until almost ten pm. I had 314 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:10.440 some apples in the car, had two apples in the 315 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:12.400 car for them, but I was like, ah, I'll still 316 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.680 go out in the woods, trudged through the snow and 317 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.359 clean up my shoes later and go put them out 318 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.559 there in the gifting area. As I started getting into 319 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.640 the woods ten pm at night, I started walking up 320 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:28.119 the trail and just about ran at the edge of 321 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:31.960 the woods from the Corporate Center, I hear this huge 322 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.440 it was probably an inch or inch and a half 323 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:38.599 diameter branch that was just broken, and it was close. 324 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:40.839 It was within fifty feet of me, and I stopped 325 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.079 that in my tracks. My first thought was, now, I'll 326 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:45.599 still go in there and do that, and then I 327 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:49.599 go Now that was warning. So I backed up a 328 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:52.000 few steps and I held the apples up and I 329 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:55.480 just said, these are for you. I took them and 330 00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:58.880 I rolled them up the trail into the woods and 331 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:01.160 I went back. I got back in my car and 332 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:04.000 I drove through the Corporate Center back over to the hotel. 333 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.240 Across the street. In between the Corporate Center offices, there 334 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.400 was a strip of wooded area that was maybe only 335 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:13.880 twenty thirty feet wide. Had branches and a lot of 336 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.440 brush that was in that area, so limited cover, but 337 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:20.440 still cover. But the next morning I get up early, 338 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:22.799 and at this time I have to give a couple 339 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:25.519 of my coworkers a ride from the hotel to the office. 340 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:28.079 I come out of the parking lot and they're with me. 341 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:30.720 I walk up to my rental car and sitting on 342 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:33.839 top of the car right in the passenger side is 343 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:37.440 a small fossil sitting up on top of my car. 344 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:41.839 So sometime during the night they had come over there 345 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.160 and basically returned a gift to me for the apples 346 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.119 that I tossed into the woods. That one shocked me. 347 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:48.440 I did not expect them because they actually had to 348 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:50.839 cross a road in order to get over to the hotel, 349 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:54.640 but there was still cover that easily stayed hidden all 350 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:56.759 the way in there. One thing I did find during 351 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.759 that research was they were because we're in that area 352 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.319 corporate center. There was no creek, no flowing water in 353 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.799 that area. What they had been doing I found a 354 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:10.920 huge stash of gatorade bottles, empty water bottles, seven to 355 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:14.240 eleven slur beacups or whatever. I found just a large 356 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:16.599 pile of it. There was no food wrappers in there. 357 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.240 I couldn't understand it until I realized that right at 358 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:23.440 the edge of where the woods met the corporate center 359 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:27.799 there were sprinklers. So summertime, they were going up there 360 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:30.000 to the edge of those end. When the sprinklers turned on, 361 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.000 they just filled up the water bottles if you think 362 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:36.240 that they're not smart, It's something I would do. But 363 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:38.200 if it was a person camping out of the woods, 364 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:40.799 there probably would have been some food wrappers or something 365 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:42.680 else like that. But I think they were pulling those 366 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:48.079 containers and everything out of the dumpster from the corporate center. Now, 367 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.759 I followed that area from the corporate center up north. 368 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:56.359 It crossed one road, but there was also a culvert 369 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:00.400 under that road for drainage that connected into a fourteen 370 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:05.160 hundred acre county forest preserve, in fact, the same forest 371 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:09.759 preserve that Walt Whitman wrote much of his pros up 372 00:20:09.799 --> 00:20:13.160 in those woods. But that area had been known for 373 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:17.000 going all the way back in historical accounts to the 374 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:22.400 mid sixteen, hundreds of people would hear moans and cries 375 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:27.400 and howling from the woods, and that's how the area 376 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:32.000 got its nickname Mount Misery. But in between the road 377 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:34.839 and the woods there's also a thing called the Northern 378 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:38.920 State Parkway across northern Long Island. I did discover that 379 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.599 there was some grating on one of the culverts that 380 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:45.920 went underneath the freeway. The metal bars that were bent 381 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:50.640 in order to gain access to transit between the highway. 382 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:54.559 I can't imagine what bent those unless somebody went in 383 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.680 there with some jaws of life or something to spread 384 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:00.039 those bars, I couldn't imagine what would do that. I 385 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:04.119 really focused my area then up in that larger county 386 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.799 forests or sure enough, I've ended up finding structures all 387 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:10.839 over the place. In fact, one time I was down 388 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:14.079 in this where they had quarried the gravel. At one 389 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:17.359 point a long time ago, I was down in that 390 00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:21.960 area looking at some larger footprints down there, and up 391 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:25.200 above I heard one running. It was pretty loud, and 392 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.400 now it could have been a jogger, but I came 393 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:30.119 running up the hill to try to meet it because 394 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.599 I could hear it, and I missed it just by seconds. 395 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.039 It was enough that it went down to this other 396 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.559 gully on the other side of this trail, because there 397 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:40.720 was hiking trails all over it, so there was joggers 398 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:43.880 in the area. But this was really heavy footfalls that 399 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:46.680 I was hearing. I get up there just in time 400 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:49.240 to see the brush still doing this as it went 401 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:51.240