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Speaker 2: Okay, guys, welcome back to Let's Get Freaky podcast. I
Speaker 2: am very excited because I've got a returning guest tonight.
Speaker 2: This man is an absolute legend in the podcasting world.
Speaker 2: I absolutely love him. Welcome back to Let's Get Freaky.
Speaker 2: Justin Brown, how are you, brother? Thank you for being
Speaker 2: in man.
Speaker 1: Man, dude, I much to come back more often. I've
Speaker 1: never been called a legend.
Speaker 2: You are a.
Speaker 1: Legende for my ego.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that. Man, you must have been called
Speaker 2: a legend.
Speaker 1: No, your first, my first.
Speaker 2: You You've got an awesome show, A Prometheus lens, absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 2: Can you tell the listeners. I'm sure people listening to
Speaker 2: Let's Get Freaky have heard of your show before. But
Speaker 2: if they haven't, if they're not living on this planet,
Speaker 2: tell us, tell us about your show, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, I appreciate it, brother. And now the the
Speaker 1: Prometheus lens, I've kind of, you know, coined it. It's
Speaker 1: the hero's journey, as I say, whether we realize it
Speaker 1: or not, we are all on this hero's journey and
Speaker 1: all the great myths is got that common theme. And
Speaker 1: I was kind of inspired to do the show by
Speaker 1: Joseph Campbell's you know, a Hero of a Thousand Faces
Speaker 1: and he talks about the archetypes and uh, basically, we
Speaker 1: are all, you know, foundlings. Graham Hancock says that we
Speaker 1: are a species with amnesia. We forgot how special we are.
Speaker 1: You know that we are, you know, children of God
Speaker 1: and and all these epics and stories, these foundlings are
Speaker 1: princes or princesses, and they've forgotten who they are and
Speaker 1: raised by another family soul journers in a different land,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's us allegorically, and they get this
Speaker 1: call to adventure from a wise sage and it's up
Speaker 1: to them to decline the adventure or to accept it.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you accept it, you have to
Speaker 1: go into the unknown. And when you go into the unknown,
Speaker 1: you have to confront your fear and slayest dragon. You
Speaker 1: have to usually rescue this damsel, and then you hoard
Speaker 1: up this treasure and you find this prize of great wealth.
Speaker 1: You know, the ancient Greeks called it the boon. But
Speaker 1: your story's not over there. You have to take the
Speaker 1: prize of great wealth and take it back to humanity
Speaker 1: and share that with mankind. And that's allegorically the fire
Speaker 1: of Prometheus. You know, to Christian worldview that that's the
Speaker 1: story of the salvation of Christ, and you share that
Speaker 1: with the world and you start someone on their hero's journey.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: So I tried to die and look through ancient history,
Speaker 1: lost civilizations, cryptids, conspiracy theory, all these great and fascinating subjects,
Speaker 1: and I filter them through a biblical lens. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: where you keep the hero's journey?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, for sure, where do you keep all this knowledge?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Because you've got so much knowledge. I don't think I've
Speaker 2: got enough fro them.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I was. It was something that I used to
Speaker 1: get made fun of a lot. I was that kid
Speaker 1: that could watch a movie or listen to a song
Speaker 1: and memorize it. And so I loved movies. And when
Speaker 1: i'd watch a movie, I could about recited word for word,
Speaker 1: and everybody would make fun of me. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd repeat all the words and lines of a movie
Speaker 1: and people will be like, oh, justin to if you
Speaker 1: want to know the line of a movie, or if
Speaker 1: you don't want to sit down and watch it, He'll
Speaker 1: recite the whole thing for you.
Speaker 2: Wow. Man, how many talks would you need to watch
Speaker 2: your film to know it?
Speaker 1: Honestly? Just once or twice and I can everything?
Speaker 2: Bro, That is wild? Is that a lot of photographic memory?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do? Wow man, Yeah, it's hard for my
Speaker 1: kids to get away with anything. I'll set this right
Speaker 1: over here a week ago, and now it's turned to
Speaker 1: the left. Somebody's touched it. Who's touched it?
Speaker 2: So whatever you've got, I've got the opposite CRS. I'll
Speaker 2: read it. I'll read a paragraph in the book, and
Speaker 2: then i'll put the book on, can put it down,
Speaker 2: and then I'll start reading, and I'll forget where i was,
Speaker 2: even with a bookmark. I'm like, did I read this already?
Speaker 2: So man, wow, respects brother.
Speaker 1: They call that CRS down in the South. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Shit, I've definitely got that. So a lot of what
Speaker 2: you do comes from a biblical perspective. And I know
Speaker 2: you're you're fully read for the Bible. How many times
Speaker 2: you've read the Bible?
Speaker 1: I've only liked front to back. I've only read through
Speaker 1: it once front to back. Wow, I mean I've read
Speaker 1: pieces of it, you know, throughout my entire life. So
Speaker 1: I mean, if you used to take all the books
Speaker 1: and put them together, I mean I've probably read through
Speaker 1: the whole thing, you know, three to five times. Maybe, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a lot though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and with a photographic memory that must come in
Speaker 2: andy with the Bible.
Speaker 1: That's what it does. But I'm been a guy that
Speaker 1: can recite the exact passages though, you know, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like the generalist guy. So it's like you know
Speaker 1: I can tell you this, this and this this happened,
Speaker 1: but far as like you know those guys that can
Speaker 1: say John chapter two, verse one, do you know? No,
Speaker 1: I can't do that. You know I can get you,
Speaker 1: but a general location.
Speaker 2: That's impressive. Man, I've got I don't know if I've
Speaker 2: ever shown this on the show before. I've got my
Speaker 2: Bible here. I've had this since i was given this
Speaker 2: when I was first born, so I've always had this.
Speaker 2: I am a Christian. The thing is, am I've never
Speaker 2: read the Bible. I'll be honest. I know a lot
Speaker 2: of the stories I've I've attempted to and I will
Speaker 2: hopefully one day get through the whole book, something I
Speaker 2: want to do now. But so I I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't know enough sometimes to have
Speaker 2: conversations when it comes to the biblical side of things,
Speaker 2: you know, when I'm meeting someone like you that knows
Speaker 2: back to the front.
Speaker 1: You know, Man, I'm always learning. It's like I can
Speaker 1: read it and I'm constantly finding new stuff. That's it,
Speaker 1: truly is It's a living book.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I can read something and think I know it so well,
Speaker 1: and then one day I'm reading through it and I
Speaker 1: see something and I'm like, dude, where was that? I
Speaker 1: never remember reading that. Yeah, you're always getting revelations and stuff.
Speaker 2: Man, it's like sometimes you need that message. Yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: because I've had that book since since I was born,
Speaker 2: but I recently couldn't find it and I was having
Speaker 2: quite a bad day. I can't remember. I was stressed
Speaker 2: about work or whatever it was, and that just popped
Speaker 2: up and I was like, that's a sign. It's got me,
Speaker 2: you know, and did to cheer me up, you know,
Speaker 2: and I did you know what am I worried about?
Speaker 2: You know, you had one of their moments and that's cool.
Speaker 1: You should try audio book, you know, Uh, just listen
Speaker 1: to it while you at work or yeah yeah, on
Speaker 1: a walk or run, and you might be a better listener.
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, because you look at the Bible,
Speaker 2: the stories in the Bible, they're better than most films.
Speaker 2: You know that could make an incredible series out of
Speaker 2: the Bible, you know, the ring style, So there's so
Speaker 2: much in that man. So tonight I think where we're
Speaker 2: going to talk Bigfoot, but from a biblical perspective, which
Speaker 2: is your book, The Epic of Azu did I say
Speaker 2: that correct?
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Speaker 2: which is your new book, which she's absolutely awesome. I
Speaker 2: haven't got it yet, but I will do. I'm going
Speaker 2: to get it and tell the listeners how you came
Speaker 2: up with a book. And is that the first book
Speaker 2: you've written.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the first one I've ever written. Man, I
Speaker 1: never thought that that would would be something that I
Speaker 1: was accomplished in my lifetime, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: When I tell people, uh some of my backstory and
Speaker 1: and things like that, uh, it blows their mind. Uh
Speaker 1: because I mean it is it is a testimony of
Speaker 1: God in itself.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I was a wild child's son. I was definitely the
Speaker 1: embodiment of the of the prodigal son.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: It was sex, drugs, rock and roll, in and out
Speaker 1: of jail. I was an Esau and Uh, I mean
Speaker 1: I grew up in church, you know. I mean I
Speaker 1: had the good firm foundation and all that, but I
Speaker 1: just I went into full rebellion and never was the
Speaker 1: uh type to be studious and want to read and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Now, I always had a
Speaker 1: fascination with history, you know. I mean I if I
Speaker 1: was at home or something and happened to catch a
Speaker 1: good documentary on History Channel, I'd always watch it. And
Speaker 1: in school I'd pay attention a little bit in history class.
Speaker 1: But far as reading on my own and all that,
Speaker 1: I never I had adhd. It's like I couldn't sit
Speaker 1: still long enough to read anything. And so it's like
Speaker 1: now people see me doing these shows and these deep
Speaker 1: dive researches and talking about all this stuff and reading
Speaker 1: now writing books. They're like, nah, I just don't see that.
Speaker 1: But it was like a flip flip of a switch
Speaker 1: back in twenty twelve. It's just like you you got
Speaker 1: to find I guess you know what you're what you're
Speaker 1: passionate about, man, And once you do, it's just, uh,
Speaker 1: just I don't know how to describe it. It is
Speaker 1: it's just a flipping of a switch in yours. You know,
Speaker 1: lit on fire?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's special, man. Yeah. Did would you say that
Speaker 2: that saved you? That fire?
Speaker 1: I was. It didn't save me, I was already saved,
Speaker 1: but it definitely it was. It was me answering the
Speaker 1: call to my hero's journey, it was like a far
Speaker 1: as my life. I knew Christ had gotten saved, went
Speaker 1: off into rebellion, and then I came back to Christ.
Speaker 1: But I was like sitting on the fence, you know,
Speaker 1: the unknown and my calling. My adventure was through the
Speaker 1: woods and into the darkness. But I was sitting on
Speaker 1: the fence just like, Okay, I'm saved, and I'm pretty
Speaker 1: comfortable on this fence. I'm just gonna sit right here.
Speaker 1: And once I responded to the call and started going
Speaker 1: down this path and researching and finding this stuff that
Speaker 1: that was me answering the call and starting my hero's journey.
Speaker 1: And it's been, uh, it has It's been an amazing ride.
Speaker 1: Because no one knows the desires of your heart. Man.
Speaker 1: But like when you for me reading and finding all
Speaker 1: this stuff and finding all this connective tissue, you know,
Speaker 1: it's no longer blind faith because growing up, it's like
Speaker 1: you're told all this stuff and you just it's kind
Speaker 1: of beating in your head at a young age and
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, yeah, I know, you know Christ died
Speaker 1: for my sins. I know that he died resurrected on
Speaker 1: the third day. I know, you know he done miracles,
Speaker 1: and I know the story of Joseph and the Code
Speaker 1: of Many Colors, you know, just all this stuff. It's
Speaker 1: just you've been told so much you just accepted at
Speaker 1: face value, and it's kind of lost. It's zeal because
Speaker 1: you've heard it so many times. And there's so many people,
Speaker 1: including myself, that just accepted on blind faith, and it's
Speaker 1: just you know, you can't defend it, and it's just
Speaker 1: it's faith. But it doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 1: It's something that you have faith in, but it's if
Speaker 1: you go looking, man, it's something that you can see,
Speaker 1: you can feel, you can taste, you can touch, and
Speaker 1: when you do, it just solidifies your faith. It strengthens
Speaker 1: your faith. It excites you and invigorates you, and it
Speaker 1: draws you closer to God. And then at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's basically like the sharpening of your sword. So not
Speaker 1: only does it offer you to make you feel good
Speaker 1: and make you feel closer to God, at the same time,
Speaker 1: you are sharpening your weapon to defend yourself and to fight,
Speaker 1: you know, in this spiritual army, because you see so
Speaker 1: many atheists and non believers that brutally attack the faith,
Speaker 1: and you bet your sweet ass they're sitting at home
Speaker 1: sharpening their sword because they want to destroy you. They
Speaker 1: want to destroy the faith. And it's the spirits and
Speaker 1: stuff that's behind them, even if it's unbeknownst to them.
Speaker 1: They're reading the literature to try to disprove your faith
Speaker 1: and make you look silly and stupid. They're reading the
Speaker 1: science and all this stuff. And then that way, when
Speaker 1: they come in front of somebody that's a Christian and
Speaker 1: has just been leaning in on the pastor's word and
Speaker 1: blind faith their whole life, they can destroy them and
Speaker 1: make them look just silly. And then you know, when
Speaker 1: they encounter somebody like me that can defend their faith,
Speaker 1: stand their ground and show them historically with archaeology, with science,
Speaker 1: with the word of God, that what I believe is
Speaker 1: not blind faith, it's real. Not only do I defend
Speaker 1: the faith and make the faith look good and hold
Speaker 1: my ground, at the same time, I may actually change
Speaker 1: someone's heart, you know what I mean. So you're battling
Speaker 1: for souls of the kingdom, So that that's something that
Speaker 1: I think that really needs to happen and take place,
Speaker 1: And that's something that's been really neglected. We have forty
Speaker 1: you know, anywhere from thirty to sixty year old people
Speaker 1: that's been Christians their whole life, Good well meaning, good
Speaker 1: hearted Christians that go to church every time the door
Speaker 1: is open. Good people. But they are still theological. Theologically,
Speaker 1: they're still infants, and they're still on the milk, and
Speaker 1: they it's time to turn the page. You know, Jesus
Speaker 1: and the story of Salvation, all that stuff is important.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the foundation stone. But you know, there's
Speaker 1: so much more to this faith in this book. Then
Speaker 1: Jesus loves you. You are saved, you're forgived and forgiven,
Speaker 1: and you are loved, you know, So it's time to
Speaker 1: spit the bottle out and get you a knife and
Speaker 1: a fork and start cutting into some rear by steak Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. We're definitely in a spiritual battle at
Speaker 2: the moment. I feel like you said, and I don't
Speaker 2: know what it is about Christianity, but a lot of people,
Speaker 2: especially what I see in the UK as well, people
Speaker 2: can say what they want about Christianity. They can mock it,
Speaker 2: you know, they can talk bad of it and disrespect
Speaker 2: the people that follow it. And there seems to be
Speaker 2: a level of acceptance a part obviously not for Christians,
Speaker 2: but it's like it's an okay thing to do, like
Speaker 2: you see it on TV shows. You know, a lot
Speaker 2: of people know that I'm a Christian, but I'll get
Speaker 2: people say, oh, those are Christians, you know, and I'm like, yea,
Speaker 2: that's me. Man. You know, I believe in God, you know,
Speaker 2: I believe in Jesus. And I don't know why, especially
Speaker 2: I feel like it's maybe worse in the UK. I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't. I feel like in America a
Speaker 2: lot more people, a lot more proud of their religion
Speaker 2: and stuff, and we'll talk out about it a lot
Speaker 2: more than in the UK. But that definitely feels like
Speaker 2: a spiritual attack.
Speaker 1: It is, and it's the spirit behind it too, because
Speaker 1: I've even said it. You can talk about Mohammed, you
Speaker 1: can talk about Buddhah, whatever, any religion you want to
Speaker 1: out in public on YouTube, whatever, and nobody ever really
Speaker 1: has the issue. But it's like without fail you mentioned
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Oh man. Yeah, people get offended, they get mad,
Speaker 1: they get angry, they want fight that try to shut
Speaker 1: you down and cancel you, and it's just something about
Speaker 1: that name that stirs up these demonic spirits and people
Speaker 1: and just brings the demons out in them many. I mean,
Speaker 1: what else can you attribute it to? You know, all
Speaker 1: the other gods people are okay with them talking about it,
Speaker 1: and they're cool with it's just Christianity and Jesus that
Speaker 1: that's always the issue. And I'll never forget. I can't
Speaker 1: remember this guy's name, but it's like this famous YouTube
Speaker 1: reel that's going around and even on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 1: But it was like the seventies because the dude had
Speaker 1: a big o afro and had the striped shirt and stuff,
Speaker 1: so you could tell that it was the style of
Speaker 1: like the seventies. But he was given like his testimony,
Speaker 1: and he said that, you know, he said, I grew
Speaker 1: up in a Christian home, he said, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to find what faith that was right for me. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to just follow the faith of my parents
Speaker 1: and the people around me, he said, so studied everything,
Speaker 1: he said. I wanted to leave no stone unturned, he said.
Speaker 1: But I went to Christianity last, he said, because that's
Speaker 1: the one I grew up in and I was familiar with,
Speaker 1: he said, so I read all the rig Vedas and
Speaker 1: the Hindu texts, he said. Then I went to the Koran,
Speaker 1: you know, he said, I went, you know, he said.
Speaker 1: I read them all, he said, and one common theme
Speaker 1: that I noticed, he said, was every single religion, he said,
Speaker 1: acknowledges Jesus, he said. Now, he said, they might not
Speaker 1: say that he was the son of God, or he
Speaker 1: was the you know, God in the flesh, he said,
Speaker 1: but every single one acknowledges him that either he was
Speaker 1: an enlightened being, an ascended master, a prophet, or a seer, whatever,
Speaker 1: he said, but they all acknowledge him as you know,
Speaker 1: supernatural and significant and powerful. He said. So all the
Speaker 1: all the religions, he said, point to Jesus, he said. So.
Speaker 1: Then when I went to Christianity, he said, and I
Speaker 1: got He said, I read the whole Bible, he said.
Speaker 1: He said, so then he said, I converted to Christianity.
Speaker 1: He said, why, He said, because all the religions of
Speaker 1: the world told me to, He said, every single religion
Speaker 1: pointed to Jesus, he said, But Jesus points to himself,
Speaker 1: he said. Jesus said, I am the Way, I am
Speaker 1: the Truth, I am the Life and no man comes
Speaker 1: them to the Father except through me. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, man, that's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure, because you were saying, I know,
Speaker 2: especially here in the UK, and I don't think you
Speaker 2: should disrespect anyone's religion or anything like that. But if
Speaker 2: you do disrespect Muslims or any other religion, if you
Speaker 2: like you are the worst person in the world, like
Speaker 2: here in the UK, you are. You can't say that,
Speaker 2: which is fine, you shouldn't really say about anyone. But
Speaker 2: if you say something towards Christianity, yeah, you're right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a joke, and it's like an accepted joke. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's the same in the US. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that happens there as well as much.
Speaker 2: But it's quite it's quite sad to see really, to
Speaker 2: be honest, but I think that's sort of that's why
Speaker 2: it's so special and that's why it's attacked. I would say, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I find it difficult to talk about this sort of stuff,
Speaker 2: to be honest, I don't always do it, un let's
Speaker 2: get freaky. And I don't know if it's because of
Speaker 2: the British culture. We don't really talk about religion and
Speaker 2: stuff that much. But it's something I need to start
Speaker 2: doing a bit more and looking into it a bit
Speaker 2: more as well, like yourself.
Speaker 1: But me, the one thing, you know, I know people
Speaker 1: have their different faith beliefs and stuff, but one thing
Speaker 1: I've always struggled with is how someone can believe in nothing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh God? Because it's like even me as a child.
Speaker 1: I remember I was five six years old, you know,
Speaker 1: talking to my grandmother one time, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: how can anybody not believe in a god? Grandma? I
Speaker 1: was like, you look around at the trees, the grass,
Speaker 1: How the sun comes up every morning, the oxygen we breathe,
Speaker 1: the trees give us the oxygen and we exhale the
Speaker 1: carbon monoxide that feeds them. It's a perfect system. How
Speaker 1: you know, how can you not believe in a creator
Speaker 1: that made this perfect system? And even with the science
Speaker 1: you look into the science, you know, they talk about evolution,
Speaker 1: which is a joke. I mean that's a faith anyway,
Speaker 1: and takes more faith to believe that everything comes from
Speaker 1: nothing than something created. And I don't care what you say.
Speaker 1: That takes more faith.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: That just the astronomical odds, you know, mathematicians have done
Speaker 1: the math the astronomical odds for just one cell, you know,
Speaker 1: and a living creature has you know, go billions. I
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's a number, but you know
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at billions of cells. So just for
Speaker 1: one single cell, the astronomical odds are like, you know,
Speaker 1: one hundred to the tenth power. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: mathematical impossibility. So but even if you give it that,
Speaker 1: if you just give it that as a free beat, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll just give you that. Okay, This one cell come
Speaker 1: from nothing. That one cell relies on other cells and
Speaker 1: systems outside of itself to sustain itself. So even if
Speaker 1: it beats these astronomical you know, odds to come into existence,
Speaker 1: it's gonna die because the other systems outside of it
Speaker 1: that it relies on is not there, so it's gonna die.
Speaker 1: So everything is a perfect symbiotic system. It's systems within
Speaker 1: systems within systems, you know, Like I talked about the
Speaker 1: carbon monoxide you exhale feeds the trees, and the trees
Speaker 1: breathe off the oxygen that we take in to live.
Speaker 1: The insects, the pollination of the birds and the seeds everything.
Speaker 1: If one thing on this earth as we have it
Speaker 1: today was not here, life as we know it would
Speaker 1: not be sustainable. It's a system within a system within
Speaker 1: a system. So that shows you everything had to come
Speaker 1: into existence simultaneously. Yeah, yeah, because everything relies on the other.
Speaker 1: So I mean that alone is like to me, it's like,
Speaker 1: how can anybody not believe in a creator? You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's throw away you know, the name of the God,
Speaker 1: the faith or you know, all that, you know stuff,
Speaker 1: it's just a creator.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: I just see how atheists can be in seuch denial.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the chance is that all this is
Speaker 2: just through chance and it's just you know, we're miraculously here.
Speaker 2: Idea That blows my mind. There's no way, you know,
Speaker 2: There's no way. And I don't know if anyone truly
Speaker 2: truly believes that. I don't know. I don't know how
Speaker 2: you could. I guess some people do. And uh but yeah, man,
Speaker 2: they may. Even with the paranormal and the supernatural. You know,
Speaker 2: we all have these experiences that are you know, they're there.
Speaker 2: There's something else, man, there's something else going on around us.
Speaker 2: We're a lot more spiritual and you know all of us.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting. Man, You're blame my mind.
Speaker 1: Brother.
Speaker 2: So let's get into the Bigfoot in the book, because
Speaker 2: obviously Bigfoot is a subject I'm fascinated with. I'm I'm
Speaker 2: not too sure what these things are like most people.
Speaker 2: You know, you got the WU camp, You've got the
Speaker 2: flesh and blood camp. You're going through the biblical road.
Speaker 2: What do you think let's start the beginning for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty thousand foot view of this. My theory that
Speaker 1: I cover in the book encompasses all that and ties
Speaker 1: it all together with a pretty red bow in my opinion,
Speaker 1: because you have the physical, you have the spiritual, you
Speaker 1: have the Biblical, you have the historical, and then you
Speaker 1: also have the Wu. So I talk about the wild
Speaker 1: man in the book. I lay out all the traditions
Speaker 1: of the wild man to start off in the first
Speaker 1: few chapters. So I go to all the different you know,
Speaker 1: contin of the world and talk about all their Bigfoot stories,
Speaker 1: Bigfoot legends, and the names and all that. And from
Speaker 1: Europe to China, China they called it the urine. You know,
Speaker 1: in your neck of the woods, they called it the
Speaker 1: wild man or the wood wofs Bigfoot over here. That term,
Speaker 1: you know, came much later out in California and the
Speaker 1: Native Americans all the different names that they had for it.
Speaker 1: And then I kind of go into the science, and
Speaker 1: the science even has terms for it, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people when they hear bigfoot, they don't even they
Speaker 1: just laugh and scoff and don't even look any further,
Speaker 1: you know, they just like, oh, that's nonsense, you know,
Speaker 1: don't even look. But there's there's scientific stuff that that
Speaker 1: ties into this. So there are people like East sau
Speaker 1: Is described in the Bible Genesis twenty five. Twenty five
Speaker 1: says the first one come out red, covered in hair
Speaker 1: from head to toe, like a Harry Cloak, and that
Speaker 1: was Esau. So with our modern vernacular, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you just let the text say what it says, and
Speaker 1: we took those descriptors, and we've seen somebody as that
Speaker 1: is described without fail. If we're being honest with ourselves,
Speaker 1: we would say, oh my god, I seen a sasquatch.
Speaker 1: I seen a bigfoot. So there are documented historically, I
Speaker 1: mean not in legends or lord, these are historically documented
Speaker 1: and painted and photographed people in history and science has
Speaker 1: termed these people with a you know, a defect called hypertrixosis,
Speaker 1: and these people are born covered in hair from head
Speaker 1: to toe. And they've also found that built into our
Speaker 1: DNA that everyone, without exception, when you are in the womb,
Speaker 1: you are covered in hair from head to toe, all
Speaker 1: of us, some more fine than others. But it's called
Speaker 1: Lugano hair. And at a certain point in the third trimester,
Speaker 1: your DNA tells your body to shed that hair, and
Speaker 1: it's to keep you warm in the womb. It's a
Speaker 1: defense mechanism. And your DNA or your genetic coating tells
Speaker 1: you to shed that hair before you're born. So the
Speaker 1: people that are born with hypertrixosis, they theorize that it
Speaker 1: is a malfunction in the DNA coating and they did
Speaker 1: not tell them to shed the hair. Well, they've also
Speaker 1: found that, you know how your body is built to survive.
Speaker 1: And you know, those of us that got a little
Speaker 1: bit extra fat around our belly, that's a blessing, anna
Speaker 1: curse if that situation, Yeah, wherever in situation that we are,
Speaker 1: you know, stranded out in the middle of the woods,
Speaker 1: plane crash, you know whatever, and we don't have food,
Speaker 1: we can live off of that fat our body will
Speaker 1: break that down, metabolize it, and we can live off
Speaker 1: of that for a while. But it also serves as
Speaker 1: an insulation layer. It keeps you warm in cold weather.
Speaker 1: So they've discovered that people out in the wilderness that
Speaker 1: go into anorexia when they're mal nourished and they don't
Speaker 1: get enough food and their body goes into starvation mode.
Speaker 1: And you combine that with cold weather conditions, that DNA
Speaker 1: coating that you had that told your body to grow
Speaker 1: this hair in the womb, turns back on and you
Speaker 1: regrow all this hair all over your body, this lagona hair.
Speaker 1: And this is why you hear stories about these feral
Speaker 1: people because they've been out in the wilderness so long.
Speaker 1: They're male nourished, and this happens. This DNA thing triggers
Speaker 1: and they regrow this hair and they look at these
Speaker 1: hairy ape people. And you see this. Even in the
Speaker 1: animal kingdom. You can take a domesticated pig, turn it
Speaker 1: loose into the wild, and after a certain time they
Speaker 1: will grow thick fur all over their body like a boar,
Speaker 1: and even grow tusks like a wild boar.
Speaker 2: And that's quite a quick process as well. That happens.
Speaker 1: Yes, So this is something scientifically documented. And when you
Speaker 1: get into Europe you know all their wild man stories.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of common themes to them.
Speaker 1: They raided towns at night. They're stealing animals and livestock
Speaker 1: and grain and food. They're abducting women and raping women,
Speaker 1: and all the things they're doing sounds like raiders. And
Speaker 1: you have to put yourself in the mindset of the
Speaker 1: ancient people. It was all about survival. The communities got together,
Speaker 1: everyone had a job, and everyone pitched together for the
Speaker 1: survival of the community. So, if you were born with
Speaker 1: a defect, whether it's a handicap, mental illness, whatever, you
Speaker 1: were a drag on the community. You were taking to
Speaker 1: the woods to fend for yourself. If you were a liar,
Speaker 1: a thief, a cheat, any of these things, you were
Speaker 1: excommunicated and cast into the wilderness to fend for yourself.
Speaker 1: Think of Robin Hood and his band to marry men. Okay, so,
Speaker 1: and think of that mindset of these people that if
Speaker 1: they did have a child that was born with this hypertrixosis,
Speaker 1: this is a demon child, they'd either kill it or
Speaker 1: take it out into the woods for the beasts of
Speaker 1: the field to tear apart. And the first thing to
Speaker 1: come to my mind was that hit series Lord or
Speaker 1: not Lord of the Rings, but the Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: The Wildlings, right, Yeah, they took the babies out into
Speaker 1: the willderness, dropped them off, and these harry wildling people,
Speaker 1: you know, would would get them and they feed them
Speaker 1: to the wildlings. So would the ancient people be any
Speaker 1: different than the people today. Think of the homeless people.
Speaker 1: All the homeless people today, they get together and form
Speaker 1: communities because there's survival and power in numbers. So all
Speaker 1: these people that were excommunicated, kicked out into the wilderness
Speaker 1: defend for themselves. They got together for survival. They were
Speaker 1: out into the wilderness, they were malnourished, they were cold.
Speaker 1: Would it be out of the question to say that
Speaker 1: if they wasn't born with hypertrixosis. But they formed this
Speaker 1: feral hair generation of lagona hair. So these were the
Speaker 1: people raiding the towns and stealing the food, raping the
Speaker 1: women and all these things. And here's where you get
Speaker 1: all your woodwast legends from and your bigfoot legends. And
Speaker 1: at the same time these people would be breeding with
Speaker 1: each other reproducing and even stronger, more dominant, more hairy
Speaker 1: p ball and the harry wildling babies that were born
Speaker 1: and tossed into the woods, maybe if you were found
Speaker 1: by them and took in and raised as their own.
Speaker 1: So that that's a you know, another I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that's a one size fits all solution, but I think
Speaker 1: that's maybe a piece to this puzzle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, and so that's just one piece of it.
Speaker 1: But then when you look at some of the historical
Speaker 1: figures that are documented, one is Luis Gomez. He I
Speaker 1: can't remember the king's name now, but it was a
Speaker 1: he was a king of France. Someone purchased this Gomez
Speaker 1: guy as a gift for this king, as like an
Speaker 1: entertainment thing, a toy for his court. And that was
Speaker 1: the thing. Man, if you were fortunate enough to not
Speaker 1: be murdered, if you were born with this condition, you
Speaker 1: were put into a circus side show as a freak attraction.
Speaker 1: And here's where you get all your stories and posters
Speaker 1: about the bearded lady, the wolf man and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: That was these people born with this condition. So if
Speaker 1: you were fortunate enough to not be murdered or killed,
Speaker 1: you were put in a circus side show, or you
Speaker 1: were sold to a rich or rich person or a
Speaker 1: powerful king for their entertainment. And this is what happened
Speaker 1: with this Gomez guy. But luckily for him, he was
Speaker 1: a small boy. He was like ten to thirteen years
Speaker 1: old when this happened. The king fell in love with
Speaker 1: this little boy, raised him like he was his son.
Speaker 1: So the paintings that we have of this guy, he
Speaker 1: was dressed as a nobleman. It was said that he
Speaker 1: was sent to the finest schools in France and he
Speaker 1: got all the well you called the training to be
Speaker 1: a lawyer and he would become a lord. And then
Speaker 1: when this king died, in his will he left him land,
Speaker 1: He left him a castle and a state, and he
Speaker 1: arranged him a marriage because he knew that, you know,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to get a woman on his own, basically,
Speaker 1: so he made an arranged marriage for him with this
Speaker 1: woman named Catherine, and that way he could have a
Speaker 1: normal life. And he got with this woman, Catherine, and
Speaker 1: ended up having four children with her, and I know
Speaker 1: there was two, but there might have been three, but
Speaker 1: two or three ended up getting his condition, and two
Speaker 1: of them that I'm one hundred percent positive of were
Speaker 1: little girls, two of his little girls covered and hare
Speaker 1: From had to toe like he was. And historians theerize
Speaker 1: that this is the foundation where Disney drew their inspiration
Speaker 1: for beauty and the beast interest based off this historical character.
Speaker 2: That was sat in France as well, wasn't it Yeah?
Speaker 1: Interesting? Yeah, that was another little venue that I took.
Speaker 1: But then I went to the Bible and exposed the
Speaker 1: wild men of the Bible, because there's more than just one.
Speaker 1: There's there's a few, and it's kind of hidden like
Speaker 1: in the h extra biblical books in some of the
Speaker 1: Hebrew languages. One that's really common that most people think
Speaker 1: of is nebucan Azra the second. Nebucan az A the
Speaker 1: second was cursed by God. It says that he was
Speaker 1: driven mad for seven years and that he was cursed
Speaker 1: to wander the wilderness like a beast of the field,
Speaker 1: and said that his hair grew long as eagles feathers,
Speaker 1: and that his nails grew long, and that he ate
Speaker 1: the grass of the field like an ox. So you
Speaker 1: have this literal transformation of this, you know, hairy beast
Speaker 1: of a man like a bigfoot type character, this wild man,
Speaker 1: and after seven years he becomes normal again and returns
Speaker 1: and picks up right where he left off and rules
Speaker 1: the kingdom. And I talk about it because when I
Speaker 1: was studying, I was like this. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people want to say, all this was a made
Speaker 1: up story. But the Babylonians were excellent record keepers, Okay,
Speaker 1: they kept up with everything. And when Nebuknezzar's father died,
Speaker 1: he was out on campaign, he was warring. When he
Speaker 1: heard that his father died, he stopped right in the
Speaker 1: middle of war to rush home before his brother anyone
Speaker 1: else userved him and took the throne. So that shows
Speaker 1: you the power struggle there. So once he went back home,
Speaker 1: got the throne, he went back on campaign and went
Speaker 1: back to warring again. So a lot of historians say, well, this,
Speaker 1: you know, can't be real, because if he would have
Speaker 1: went mad for seven years, someone would have usurped him,
Speaker 1: someone would have took over the throne, and they wouldn't
Speaker 1: have just you know, stepped back down after seven years.
Speaker 1: When he showed back up, there would have been a
Speaker 1: war and we'd have had, you know, records of it. Well,
Speaker 1: when they got to dig and the records. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I can't remember the date off my head, but I
Speaker 1: have it in the book. But uh, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the records uh, and all that the keeping of all
Speaker 1: the records just stops dead. And there's a seven year
Speaker 1: exact gap and it's and it's right around the time
Speaker 1: of the Babylonian exile and when Daniel was said to
Speaker 1: have been in the captivity with Nebukanezer. And then after
Speaker 1: after seven years, the record keeping just kicks brought back
Speaker 1: up again. Wow, man, And it kind of fits perfectly
Speaker 1: in that timeline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that's interesting mine. Well, you were you the
Speaker 2: first person to connect this to a lot of the
Speaker 2: big Foot.
Speaker 1: As far as I know. Oh, I mean I've heard
Speaker 1: people theorize, you know, oh maybe he saw was a
Speaker 1: big foot, you know, But it's just like it's one
Speaker 1: of those little blanket term statements people make and then
Speaker 1: walk away from. I think I'm the only one that
Speaker 1: sit down and put pen to paper and went down
Speaker 1: all these rabbit trails.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when that photographic memory comes in handy man.
Speaker 1: And the extra biblical books show that came his marking
Speaker 1: and his cursing. Was that he was covered in hair
Speaker 1: from head to toe. Interesting, and when you get into
Speaker 1: the rabbi's writings and the midrashes and the targums and stuff,
Speaker 1: it says that that's why he was afraid that he
Speaker 1: was going to be killed, because he looked like this
Speaker 1: harry beast of a man. And according to the targums Limec.
Speaker 1: In the Book of Genesis, we here that Limec he
Speaker 1: just comes home one day distraught and he says, if
Speaker 1: Kane was cursed time seven, mine will be seventy times seven,
Speaker 1: because today I killed a man, and in my anger
Speaker 1: killed a youth. That well, in there it says that
Speaker 1: in Lomec's old age he was going blind, and that
Speaker 1: he would have his son tubal Cane assist him in hunting,
Speaker 1: and he would guide his bow. And it said that
Speaker 1: on this particular day tuble came seeing what he thought
Speaker 1: was a beast in the field and pointed his bow
Speaker 1: of his father, And when they shot and got up
Speaker 1: on it, Limeck realized that it was his ancestor Kane. Wow,
Speaker 1: and he become upset and killed his son for the mistake.
Speaker 1: So there's another wild man in the Bible. And then
Speaker 1: of course you have Esau. And you know, I told
Speaker 1: you I try to tile this stuff with a bow
Speaker 1: and covered all that, So I mean, I kind of
Speaker 1: just went kind of quickly. But you know, so I
Speaker 1: went with the science. I went with the Bible. And
Speaker 1: here's where the WU comes in. But the WU is
Speaker 1: kind of interlaced with the Bible. Esau, according to the
Speaker 1: rabbinic writings and the thoughts of the Jews, and Lewis
Speaker 1: Ginsburg and his writings the legends of the Jews, they
Speaker 1: all point to Esau. Whether we can argue all day
Speaker 1: long if it was factual or not, but we cannot
Speaker 1: argue or dispute that it was the thoughts and belief
Speaker 1: of the people of the time that Esau was a
Speaker 1: serpent seed. Those writings say that his guardian angel was
Speaker 1: semi l that he come out with a serpent's brand
Speaker 1: or marking at birth, and that when Rebecca walked by
Speaker 1: a house that worshiped pagan gods, that Esau would stir
Speaker 1: all these things, and that when he marries and takes wives,
Speaker 1: he takes three wives. Well, thanks to people like Gary
Speaker 1: Wayne in their deep dive research of the genealogies, we
Speaker 1: find out that two of the wives that he took
Speaker 1: were Canaanite wives, and they were Horiites and Hebtes, and
Speaker 1: they were both known giant clans, and one of the
Speaker 1: father in laws was said to be a chieftain from
Speaker 1: the land of Mount Sier. When you break down the
Speaker 1: Hebrew etymology of that word, that word means harry. So
Speaker 1: here we have this Harry quote unquote man, the sasquatch
Speaker 1: man marrying into and breeding with Falem giant clans, and
Speaker 1: one being described already as Harry. You've got a really
Speaker 1: high likelihood of throwing some strange pups from that union, okay.
Speaker 1: And out of that union burst the Amalekite race. The Amalekites,
Speaker 1: when you go into the etymology of that name, means
Speaker 1: the blood liquors, and they were known to be sorcerers
Speaker 1: and necromancers. Okay. And according to the Book of Enoch,
Speaker 1: it says that the Nephilim were neither human, their spirits
Speaker 1: were neither fully human nor fully angelic. So their spirits
Speaker 1: have nowhere to rest. That they were would be demons
Speaker 1: and wander the earth till till the day of judgment,
Speaker 1: tormenting mankind. So with the people people that talk about
Speaker 1: all the wu associated with these big foot sightings, how
Speaker 1: it phases in and out of reality, how they have
Speaker 1: the mind speak. If these are from the union of
Speaker 1: Esaul and Nephlum giants, that kind of ties that together
Speaker 1: pretty good, I think, because if these are you know,
Speaker 1: have nephl blood intermixed, then their spirits are left to wander.
Speaker 1: And if these spirits can manifest, would they not manifest
Speaker 1: in a familiar form as these big, tall, hairy giants
Speaker 1: that they wear when they walk the earth. And far
Speaker 1: as the UFO stuff that's involved, I believe that these
Speaker 1: UFOs in this spacecraft and stuff is just basically angelic
Speaker 1: or demonic or fallen angel I should say, uh conveyance.
Speaker 1: So if these are fallen angels flying around not all,
Speaker 1: of course, not all, But of course they'd be flying
Speaker 1: around checking on their offspring or their you know, uh
Speaker 1: nieces and nephews and checking in on them and passing
Speaker 1: orders and uh plotting against God's people and creation m
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, And of course this is these
Speaker 1: are all theories and conjecture, but I mean they're they're
Speaker 1: biblically based. It's not like I'm just throwing stuff out
Speaker 1: of my back pocket to make up that it sounds
Speaker 1: good like I'm writing a sci fi book. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm basing it off.
Speaker 2: Of yeah, you know the old fits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: How many examples are there in the Bible of of
Speaker 2: hairy men and bigfoot like creatures.
Speaker 1: The there's several allusions too, but those three are definitely
Speaker 1: like concrete and specific ones. But I mean, you get
Speaker 1: references to like the hairy, lion faced men of moab Uh,
Speaker 1: you get the allusions to satyrs. In the Book of Isaiah,
Speaker 1: it says the wild men and the satyrs will dance
Speaker 1: in the wilderness in the desolate cities, while the God's
Speaker 1: people were in the wilderness in their wanderings. It's out
Speaker 1: There's where you get all your do not do this,
Speaker 1: do not do that. You know, you don't get a law, rule,
Speaker 1: regulation unless that is being done, you know, or broken.
Speaker 1: You know, Noway's going to tell you don't cross the
Speaker 1: road if it was impossible to cross the road to
Speaker 1: begin with. And from the Bible, we know that during
Speaker 1: their wilderness wanderings that the Amalekites, the blood liquors were there.
Speaker 1: This was the first tribe that encountered God's people and
Speaker 1: attacked them and tormented them while they were in the wilderness.
Speaker 1: So they were having encounters with these people, these hairy
Speaker 1: giant people, and some of the laws that they were given.
Speaker 1: If you look at them, I think they're telling What
Speaker 1: does it say? It says, no longer will you sacrifice
Speaker 1: to harry goat demons. Like I said, Isaiah talks about
Speaker 1: the wild men and the satyrs will dance in the
Speaker 1: wilderness and the desolate cities. It also says, do not
Speaker 1: seek necromancers and sorcerers and mediums. It says, do not
Speaker 1: drink the blood, for the life is in the blood.
Speaker 1: Hell their name means blood liquors, but that's what it says.
Speaker 1: Don't pass your children through the fires of Molek. So
Speaker 1: I think, and I theorize in the book that these
Speaker 1: Amalekites were there in the wilderness. They were the harry
Speaker 1: goat demons, the satyrs, the wild men that Isaiah talks
Speaker 1: about dancing in the wilderness. They were passing children through
Speaker 1: the fire, They were drinking blood, They were doing necromancy
Speaker 1: and sorcery, and God's people were making sacrifices to them,
Speaker 1: and they were imitating them. And God stepped in it's
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, you can't be doing this.
Speaker 1: And then they finally go to battle, and they go
Speaker 1: to war, and here's where you get that famous story
Speaker 1: where Moses has to hold that super natural rod, the
Speaker 1: one that he threw down. It turned into a snake
Speaker 1: and ate the pharaoh's magicians' snakes and divided the Red
Speaker 1: Sea and caused all the plagues, split the Rocket mount
Speaker 1: horror of all these things that this rod did. He
Speaker 1: has to hold this rod over his head on the
Speaker 1: mountaintop while they're fighting down in the valley below. And
Speaker 1: it says only while he held the rod up were
Speaker 1: they able to prevail over this giant clan of harry
Speaker 1: Goat demons. And it says that when he would tire,
Speaker 1: he he would lower the rod, and then the Amalekites
Speaker 1: would start winning again, and that Joshua and Caleb had
Speaker 1: to get his arms and physically help him hold his
Speaker 1: arms up so they could defeat the Amalekites that day.
Speaker 1: So I said in the book, I think there was
Speaker 1: a whole supernatural war going on that's beneath the pages
Speaker 1: of that story, that while Moses was on one mountain
Speaker 1: holding that rod up, doing his thing. On the other
Speaker 1: side of the valley, on another mountain was the high
Speaker 1: priest or high priestess of the Amalekites, their sorcerer, and
Speaker 1: they were doing battle. It was a whole Lord of
Speaker 1: the Rings ganned Off the Gray versus the the other guy.
Speaker 1: I can't remember his name now, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wow. I mean it's literally like Game of Thrones, yeah,
Speaker 2: but better.
Speaker 1: For real. But that's what it was based off of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I tell people all the time. I'm like,
Speaker 1: if you think Game of Thrones was cool, that's what
Speaker 1: the whole Bible is. That's the whole meta narrative. Because
Speaker 1: you have Deuteronomy thirty two, because you know, what is
Speaker 1: it that you have the one throne right that ruled
Speaker 1: all the realms, but you had all these other realms,
Speaker 1: and then they all these other realms are plotting to
Speaker 1: try to take over the iron throne. Well, in the Bible,
Speaker 1: you have a divine council, and a lot of Christians
Speaker 1: recoil when you talk about other gods. But God caused
Speaker 1: them gods. What the hell are you supposed to call them?
Speaker 1: He says, you know, I am a jealous god. You
Speaker 1: will have no other gods before me. You know who's
Speaker 1: amongst who's like you, amongst the gods. You know, amongst
Speaker 1: the gods, he holds judgment, you know, in the divine council.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're lower case gee gods. They're created beings.
Speaker 1: There is one creator God. But when you get to
Speaker 1: Deuteronomy thirty two, that's the retailing of the Tower of Bible.
Speaker 1: A lot of people just get hung up on the
Speaker 1: dividing of the tongues. But when you get to Deuteronomy
Speaker 1: thirty two, verse eight, that's a retailing of that story
Speaker 1: in more detail, and there it says not only was
Speaker 1: the tongues divided, it says the nation, the peoples were
Speaker 1: divided amongst the sons of God, the Benaha Elohim. And
Speaker 1: every time the Hebrew word is used as talking about
Speaker 1: divine beings. So these people kept chasing after these other
Speaker 1: gods and serving these other gods. So God finally said, okay,
Speaker 1: you want to chase after these other gods. I want
Speaker 1: to rule over you. I'm going to give you what
Speaker 1: you want, but you're not gonna like it. But I'm
Speaker 1: implementing myself, my fail safe plan. Jacob Israel is my
Speaker 1: allotted portion. And then here's where he calls out Abraham
Speaker 1: right after this event, and was he tell Abraham, He says,
Speaker 1: through your name all nations shall be blessed because that's
Speaker 1: where the Messiah is going to come. And these sons
Speaker 1: of God rebelled, and that explains then they're ruling the
Speaker 1: nations today. And that's why you have so much evil
Speaker 1: and wickedness in the world today because they are still
Speaker 1: ruling over the nations. And Psalms eighty two tells you
Speaker 1: that is uh the prophecy and condemnation given to those
Speaker 1: sons of God there because it says, how long will
Speaker 1: you rule unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? And
Speaker 1: the people want to say, oh, they're talking about earthly kings,
Speaker 1: you know, they're talking about the kings and queens of
Speaker 1: the earth that are you know, not ruling, you know, righteously. Well,
Speaker 1: then how do you explain the next verse because it
Speaker 1: says you desire to live the eternal life, but you
Speaker 1: shall die and fall like any prince. If he's talking
Speaker 1: to humans, that's the biggest dum moment in the world. No,
Speaker 1: he's talking to divine, heavenly beings. Yeah, you're gonna die.
Speaker 1: You think you think that's you. You know you're immortal
Speaker 1: and you're going to live forever, and uh uh you're
Speaker 1: going down, daddy, You're going down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, I said at the start, your knowledge was incredible,
Speaker 2: and it really is. Man, It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a whole Game of Thrones and they're
Speaker 1: fighting amongst each other for the for this this this
Speaker 1: realm and the people in it.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. It would be great to see like a
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones size production on the Bible one day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, would would you like to see that? That would
Speaker 1: be incredible to see it.
Speaker 2: I need to do. I'm surprised something like that's not
Speaker 2: been done, to be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from a supernatural Leans too, Yes, yeah, mine counselor
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean we had Noah Russell crows Noah
Speaker 2: that that was quite cool. I mean, I know it's
Speaker 2: only a film, free how long film, but we'd like
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 1: The Stone giants helping build the arc and them getting
Speaker 1: redemption I wouldn't cool with. But there were some good
Speaker 1: things in there. Because one of the topics in this
Speaker 1: book that I haven't touched yet because I know we
Speaker 1: just stick it to the bigfoot stuff, but is the
Speaker 1: supernatural garments from the Garden of God because in this story,
Speaker 1: Nimrod the Mighty Hunter, because Esau is also known as
Speaker 1: the Mighty Hunter. These two mighty hunters kind of like
Speaker 1: the last you know, the Highlander. You know, there can
Speaker 1: only be one, these two clash, and it's basically paints
Speaker 1: like a beauty in the Beast's kind of scene, like
Speaker 1: gased on the mighty Hunter hunting this beast, and he's
Speaker 1: hunting Esau like this, like like he's a beast, and
Speaker 1: he goes after him with three giants. And it says
Speaker 1: that this isn't the Book of Jashure, that Esau cuts
Speaker 1: off the head of Nimrod and then kills two giant ants,
Speaker 1: and it says he takes the time to steal Nimrod's garments,
Speaker 1: to which he was able to rule over all the nations,
Speaker 1: and he takes them back home and hides them, and
Speaker 1: then he goes into his brother's tent. And here's where
Speaker 1: we get the famous story of the trading of the
Speaker 1: birthright that to me never made any sense. But when
Speaker 1: I found this Book of Jashure, it filled in all
Speaker 1: the gaps because the Book of Genesis just, you know,
Speaker 1: you get the birth of Esau, it fast forwards to
Speaker 1: an adult and it just says that Esau, this mighty hunter,
Speaker 1: comes in from the field exhausted one day and his
Speaker 1: little brother's making some red stew and he asks for some,
Speaker 1: and Jacob says, yeah, I'll give you some, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna trade me the birthright. You're going to give me
Speaker 1: all of your inheritance. And he just says, ah, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: what use is a birthright to me when I'm dead?
Speaker 1: Take it? And he trades his birthright for a crumby
Speaker 1: bowl of red stew and leaps and I'm like, that
Speaker 1: makes absolutely no sense. But when you tie this book
Speaker 1: of jashure, like I said, he kills three giants, he
Speaker 1: kills the king, he's on the run, takes the garments,
Speaker 1: hides him in his house, and then he goes to
Speaker 1: his brother's tent, and so he probably sustains some life
Speaker 1: threatening injuries from this encounter of fighting the kingdom Rod
Speaker 1: and two other giants. He's on the run because he
Speaker 1: just killed the king, and he's basically telling his brother,
Speaker 1: you know, hide me, bandage me up, sew me up,
Speaker 1: help me, stop bleeding, help me. And Jacob's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll help you, but you're gonna trade me the birthright.
Speaker 1: And that's why he was that's why he made that comic.
Speaker 1: That comic makes sense. Now, what use is a birthright
Speaker 1: to me? When I'm dead?
Speaker 2: Take it?
Speaker 1: And then Jacob you kind of see the urgency in
Speaker 1: his voice in the Book of Genesis now, because Jacob
Speaker 1: doesn't just say, oh, yeah, trade me the birthright. Cool. No,
Speaker 1: he says, trade me your birthright, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what use is birth right me when I'm dead? Take it?
Speaker 1: No promise me, no, no, no, promise me now that
Speaker 1: you will do this thing. And he's like, yeah, sure, whatever,
Speaker 1: take it. And it turns out through the Book of
Speaker 1: Jasher that this these garments are the supernatural garments from
Speaker 1: the Garden of God that was given to Adam and
Speaker 1: Eve when they were exiled, and this was the birthright
Speaker 1: that was passed down to the eldest son through the
Speaker 1: Chosen lineage, and that Ham in his going out steals
Speaker 1: them and gives them to cush and Cushion ends up
Speaker 1: giving them to Nemrod. And I bring that up because
Speaker 1: you had mentioned that movie Noah, you see those garments
Speaker 1: in that movie, because the movie starts off shows Adam
Speaker 1: and Eve glowing light beings in the garden. This serpent
Speaker 1: slithers up and he opens his mouth and he sheds
Speaker 1: his skin and leaves his skin laying there, and it's
Speaker 1: this golden, glowing, shimmering skin. Adam walks straight over and
Speaker 1: he picks it up. You know, this is the sign
Speaker 1: and symbol of kingship, of dominion and priesthood. And in
Speaker 1: the movie Ogg ends up with it. But by the
Speaker 1: end of the movie, Noah has it and he twists
Speaker 1: he remember, he's twisting it around his arm, and what
Speaker 1: does he say. He says, this is the birthright given
Speaker 1: to Adam, and we are commanded to be fruitful and multiply,
Speaker 1: and now I passed this blessing to you. And he
Speaker 1: touches those two newborn babies with that glowing snake skin.
Speaker 1: And according to Ezekiel twenty eight, you know, describing Satan,
Speaker 1: it says, you know you were perfect when you were
Speaker 1: created until iniquity was found in you. And it says
Speaker 1: every precious stone was your covering, and it says, sorry,
Speaker 1: it's topaz barrel onyx jasper ONYX. It lists all these
Speaker 1: stones and it says, and they were set in gold,
Speaker 1: and you know, it describes this really ornate, beautiful, you
Speaker 1: know garment. And if you according to what text you're reading,
Speaker 1: the Masoretic texts lists nine stones, but the septuagen lists twelve.
Speaker 1: This is a carbon copy, exact mirror image of the
Speaker 1: priestly e fod that the high priests wore entering the Tabernacle.
Speaker 1: And then later in that same chapter talking about Satan,
Speaker 1: it says, not only does it paint him in a
Speaker 1: priestly role wearing this priestly garment, it says, you profaned
Speaker 1: your sanctuaries and you were cast from the mountain of
Speaker 1: God as a profane thing. That is the garment from
Speaker 1: the garden of God. So when Satan was cast out,
Speaker 1: his priestly garments was ripped off of him, his position
Speaker 1: was taken from him, and it was given to Adam
Speaker 1: to mankind, and Adam was the first king and priest
Speaker 1: of creation. That alone would explain why Satan hates you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but all that stuff's in the book.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, I need to I'm getting this book, that
Speaker 2: is for sure. One man, I've got to go back
Speaker 2: to the big foot. You're you're fought some bigfoot? Now
Speaker 2: do you think these creatures are out there now? Still?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Man's it's possibility. I talked about it
Speaker 1: in the book too, the panda. You know, pandas are
Speaker 1: not smart creatures. But pandas were just discovered in like
Speaker 1: the last one hundred years. But they were written about
Speaker 1: in legends and talked about for thousands of years, and
Speaker 1: people always said the same thing, like we talk about bigfoots,
Speaker 1: they're not real. It's a legend. If they were real,
Speaker 1: we would have found them by now, and it took
Speaker 1: them thousands of years for they finally found one. So
Speaker 1: if a dumb panda can avoid being seen and captured
Speaker 1: for thousands and thousands of years, and it's a dumb creature,
Speaker 1: if we have a humanoid creature with human intelligence, the
Speaker 1: ultimate hunter, I don't think it's too far fetched to
Speaker 1: think that it could avoid being seen this long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, und percent.
Speaker 1: And according to the legends and stuff, they're they're cave
Speaker 1: dwellers and we don't know, we don't know nothing about
Speaker 1: the cave systems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can only get so far in Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows even that that giant of candor horror
Speaker 1: that everybody talks about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the redheaded giant.
Speaker 1: About here, that might be what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Interesting man, and what you were saying at the start
Speaker 2: as well, that would that would explain one of these
Speaker 2: things want to stay away from people, you know, because
Speaker 2: they would have had embedded in their DNA, bad, bad
Speaker 2: things happening to do with people. They'd want to be
Speaker 2: away from people. So interesting, man, very interesting. You blow
Speaker 2: my knight and my mind. You blow my mind tonight. Brother.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of information to take into I don't
Speaker 2: know how. I don't know how you do it, man,
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it. How long did
Speaker 2: it take you to come up with with with this?
Speaker 2: And is the fury still growing?
Speaker 1: It was still growing. It took me two years to
Speaker 1: get you know this, It's like two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: something pages. It's fifteen chapters, and honestly, we just scratched
Speaker 1: the surface. There's chapters, whole chapters on stuff I just
Speaker 1: didn't even talk about. But it took two years to
Speaker 1: get that, and honestly, I was still finding stuff and
Speaker 1: I just had to tell myself, I'm like, dude, you've
Speaker 1: been working on this two years. That just put a
Speaker 1: put a lid on it and send it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, it's awesome and it's out there now
Speaker 2: for people to buy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people get on Amazon. Amazon. It's an ebook for
Speaker 1: ten bucks or paperback for twenty awesome.
Speaker 2: Man, well I'm going to be getting it, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And I will put the links in the show description
Speaker 2: so people can go right now and get it right
Speaker 2: now because super interesting. Man, I need to You've given
Speaker 2: us a lot of information tonight. I'm going to need
Speaker 2: to listen to this as well. So I'm sure there's
Speaker 2: some things I missed and I'm sure I'm going to
Speaker 2: have more questions. Ah, I needed to ask that, But man,
Speaker 2: you blame my mind. Man, your your your knowledge is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I believe it. Man, I appreciate it's just a you know,
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, nobody knows down heart's own joy.
Speaker 1: You find something you love and you're passionate about, man,
Speaker 1: you just you run with it. So it's like it's
Speaker 1: it's great when you find other people that share your
Speaker 1: passion because you don't look so crazy anymore.
Speaker 2: It's infectious. It's infectious when you see something with that
Speaker 2: passion as well. So you're doing a fantastic job.
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 2: Can you tell the listeners where they can find you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I think I've enjoyed it that I enjoy
Speaker 1: every time we get together, Tommy.
Speaker 2: Think I always learn a lot as well, like a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, if you enjoy this type of stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm pumping stuff out every week. I put out at
Speaker 1: least two or three shows every week. Uh, and I
Speaker 1: got two podcasts, so I'm a glutton for punishment. But
Speaker 1: I got the dig Bible podcast that's like a Bible
Speaker 1: study with friends, and the Prometheus Lens podcast that's my
Speaker 1: solo project. Anywhere you can consume content, Spotify, Apple, YouTube
Speaker 1: podbeing any of those places. You just search up the
Speaker 1: name of the show, you'll be able to find it.
Speaker 1: The website is a Prometheus Lens podcast dot com. I
Speaker 1: have a paid subscription to if you want more access,
Speaker 1: early access, commercial, free access to stuff. Trying to think
Speaker 1: all the social media's, just search me up. I'm on
Speaker 1: all the social media's. I put out you know, two
Speaker 1: to three reels almost daily, and the book is on Amazon. Yep.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff, brother, Well you are a legend and keep
Speaker 2: up the great work. Man. I love what you're doing you.
Speaker 2: I love you, brother. I will put all your links
Speaker 2: in the show description so people can go right now
Speaker 2: and find you. Man. Thank you so much. Come back,
Speaker 2: come back. I need more more information, so I need
Speaker 2: you back very soon. Man. I'd love to have you
Speaker 2: back on soon.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, we'll deep do have some more.
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Speaker 2: safe and keep it freaky. Thank you very much, brother,
Speaker 2: Damen Hathing ever
Speaker 1: High