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Speaker 2: I feel like the grass isn't always greener on the
Speaker 2: other side, as an old saying, but it's all so
Speaker 2: held up pretty pretty good. Like I think even the
Speaker 2: younger generation, even younger than you know John, because he's old.
Speaker 2: N he's twenty seven after this weekend. Like people know what.
Speaker 3: That means, right, Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2: And you could be one hundred years old and know
Speaker 2: what that means. Well, I'm gonna throw I'm gonna use
Speaker 2: it in this example for a former louisvill running back
Speaker 2: who never played it down here, Penny Boone, remember that name.
Speaker 2: We talked about him quite a bit around New Year's
Speaker 2: because he joined the Louisville program and it was a
Speaker 2: big deal. He transferred in and was at that time,
Speaker 2: I believe, one of the better running backs in the
Speaker 2: portal after putting together a really, really good couple of
Speaker 2: years at Akron or maybe Toledo. I think it might
Speaker 2: have been Toledo.
Speaker 3: Toledo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was, you know, a big time getting
Speaker 2: the portal for Louisville, enrolled early, and then by the
Speaker 2: time the spring game came around, you found out he
Speaker 2: was on his way out. He left, and uh he
Speaker 2: was if you remember, he was standing on business.
Speaker 3: Right, he was the standing on business guy.
Speaker 2: But there was something else to do with that, like
Speaker 2: he was, I don't know, he had some subliminal social
Speaker 2: media stuff.
Speaker 3: He's doing some ls down in the locker room.
Speaker 2: Was Yeah, he was doing some clown stuff. But he
Speaker 2: claimed it was all about standing on business. So that's
Speaker 2: what it was. He claimed by you know, standing on business,
Speaker 2: that meant that he was leaving because of nil money.
Speaker 2: Well turns out you talk to enough people, he was
Speaker 2: leaving because he was not Louisville's starting running back in
Speaker 2: the spring. He probably would have been second, but you know,
Speaker 2: he wasn't given anything. He had earned, he had worked
Speaker 2: for it, and he got here. And you know what
Speaker 2: a guy who has been a running back at Louisville
Speaker 2: for three four years, a guy that's been a running
Speaker 2: back at Miami for three four years, and Cheney, you
Speaker 2: know those guys, they don't have the numbers, but they
Speaker 2: also didn't have the opportunity to be the primary back
Speaker 2: in the MAC for Toledo. So you know, he thinks
Speaker 2: the grass is greener when he gets to Louisville because
Speaker 2: he's gonna get all these carries and he's gonna have
Speaker 2: nil money and he's going to play for a power program.
Speaker 2: But you know, he wasn't that good. So his exit
Speaker 2: was was a learning experience. I think for Jeff Brohm
Speaker 2: and his staff to make sure, not to say they do,
Speaker 2: they do more vetting. But you know, he was unhappy
Speaker 2: and it started he started to kind of create a
Speaker 2: bad environment in the locker room. Now he didn't have
Speaker 2: the control obviously, you know Louisville's locker room and you know,
Speaker 2: team chemistry, morale and all that stuff. I think it's
Speaker 2: in a really good place. But he was somebody that
Speaker 2: was trying to disrupt that because he was a tur
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, So on his way out
Speaker 2: he didn't go about it the right way. I mean
Speaker 2: at all. That was pretty clear. And then if you remember,
Speaker 2: he couldn't get in at certain schools, and maybe those
Speaker 2: schools weren't going to offer him the nil money that
Speaker 2: Louisville was because you know what, they didn't need him
Speaker 2: that bad. He's a he's a mac running back who
Speaker 2: was at the power five already at a place Maryland,
Speaker 2: and he wasn't good there. That's why he loved Maryland.
Speaker 2: So the initial depth chart has come out for his
Speaker 2: new school. If you remember, he thought he was going
Speaker 2: to go to Oklahoma State, thought he was going to
Speaker 2: go to Oregon, thought he was going to go to
Speaker 2: Georgia or cant and he couldn't get into Kentucky. I
Speaker 2: think Kentucky would have taken him, but he couldn't get in.
Speaker 2: So he ends up going to play for Central Florida.
Speaker 2: Gus Melson not Gus Smellson.
Speaker 3: Is it Gus Mason, No, it's wait hold on the.
Speaker 2: Coach at Central Florida. I get Hugh Freeze and Gusmelson
Speaker 2: mixed up Gusmelson is the old Auburn coach now at
Speaker 2: Central Florida. Hugh Freeze is the old Ole Miss coach.
Speaker 2: Was he at Liberty and now he's he's at Auburn,
Speaker 2: So yeah, it is. It's Gusmelson who's at Central Florida.
Speaker 2: So he probably thought, Okay, Louisville's not not appreciating me.
Speaker 2: They're not making me the starter. I'm out of here.
Speaker 2: They don't see the talent that I have. Well, he
Speaker 2: goes to a lower program in Central Florida and he
Speaker 2: is now listed at or on the depth chart, but
Speaker 2: not for first string and not for second string. He
Speaker 2: might at best be the third guy on their depth
Speaker 2: chart at running back at Central Florida and the guy
Speaker 2: who won that job as a former Cincinnati running back
Speaker 2: who didn't get a lot of reps at Cincinnati. So
Speaker 2: this guy, you know, maybe maybe the grass sitting always
Speaker 2: greener on the other side is not the best. In fact,
Speaker 2: that would more so fit with him at Tledo. Would
Speaker 2: it not like you should have stayed there? Many that's
Speaker 2: where you belong, and you knew it already because you
Speaker 2: played Power five football the Big Ten at Maryland. You
Speaker 2: weren't good there, so you know he's at Louisville instead
Speaker 2: of being appreciative of the fact that you know, he
Speaker 2: is going to get a chance to you if you
Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to start. But he wasn't the
Speaker 2: starter after the spring and he got an eye on money,
Speaker 2: and it sounds like he wanted more. He decided to
Speaker 2: stand on business and the business he was standing on
Speaker 2: was was not you know, didn't have a great rating
Speaker 2: by the Better Business Bureau. John, it was a really
Speaker 2: bad dad joke, wasn't it?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: It was really bad. I didn't know how to respond.
Speaker 2: That just happened. That just came out of me. That
Speaker 2: was that was That was uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: The harder the cringe, the better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was cringe. That was cringe. All right, Uh,
Speaker 2: let's let's let you hear what Jeff Bram had to
Speaker 2: say when asked about a Mario Huggins Bruce. And if
Speaker 2: you don't, if you haven't heard it, if you give
Speaker 2: it some thought, it's probably gonna be exactly what you
Speaker 2: would expect him to say about a Mario Huggins Bruce.
Speaker 2: You know, given the current circumstances with the former and
Speaker 2: I guess hopefully future Louisville cardinal. Is he back on
Speaker 2: the team, what's his role going to be with the team,
Speaker 2: and maybe walk us through the process of him coming
Speaker 2: back to Louisville.
Speaker 5: Well, right now, I probably could just talk about people
Speaker 5: that are on our roster, So we'll just have to
Speaker 5: leave it at that for this current moment, not as
Speaker 5: of right.
Speaker 2: Now, So can't talk about him not on the roster
Speaker 2: as of right now. Notice he said current moment, and
Speaker 2: that's for good reason. That's because you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is no scenario a Mariy Huggins Bruce
Speaker 2: dropped out of South Carolina, caught a plane back to Louisville,
Speaker 2: enrolled in school as a student with no scholarship on
Speaker 2: the football team, and is going to walk on, Like,
Speaker 2: you don't do that unless there's been some level of
Speaker 2: communication to know that that could work. Now, I don't
Speaker 2: know if anybody guaranteed him that it would all work out.
Speaker 2: I think everybody involved here's taken a little bit of
Speaker 2: a risk. I'm already taking a bigger risk because you know,
Speaker 2: if he's not eligible to play, I mean, Louisville just
Speaker 2: moves on.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Maybe he sits out and could play next year. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how that would work out.
Speaker 2: He's clearly burned a bridge at South Carolina, and I
Speaker 2: think his exit there would make it tough for him
Speaker 2: to get an opportunity at a bigger school, just given
Speaker 2: you know everything. I mean, not just the fact that
Speaker 2: he bailed on them during camp after not liking where
Speaker 2: he was as you know, a backup, you know, but
Speaker 2: also he was a guy that didn't do a ton
Speaker 2: at Louisville, tried to go play at an SEC school
Speaker 2: and you know, didn't didn't make the first drink. Doesn't
Speaker 2: mean he's terrible, but you know, I think when Amari
Speaker 2: Huggins Bruce decided to leave South Carolina and he knew,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to play football anywhere else, it's going
Speaker 2: to be Louisville. And now it's just in the hands
Speaker 2: of the n S DOUBLEA. So again, I I don't
Speaker 2: want to sound so dismissive of it, as if like
Speaker 2: there's no way he plays, And I guess I do
Speaker 2: sound like that when I say this, I don't know
Speaker 2: how he played, Like, I don't know what the loophole
Speaker 2: would be that mean there isn't one. I'm just telling
Speaker 2: you that I don't know what it is, so heck,
Speaker 2: maybe he is prepared to sit out a year and
Speaker 2: play next year. I don't know, but clearly there's something.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is real, right meeting. He's here, and
Speaker 2: Jeff wouldn't even be allowed to I mean, Jeff answered that,
Speaker 2: and I would wouldn't be surprised if that was played.
Speaker 2: As far as that little question there, I mean, he
Speaker 2: knew he was gonna get a question, but clearly I
Speaker 2: think his statement was to cover their ear in, to
Speaker 2: make it clear that they're not because they know they're,
Speaker 2: and not to revisit the whole thing from a week ago.
Speaker 2: But the portal exists not just for people to transfer,
Speaker 2: because you know, if you just leave school, you know
Speaker 2: you're but you have to enter the transfer portal. Therefore,
Speaker 2: schools can actually reach out and talk to you in
Speaker 2: community with you and recruit you if you don't go
Speaker 2: through the portal, which he could not go through the
Speaker 2: portal because the portal has closed.
Speaker 3: Louisville, like I.
Speaker 2: Guess, technically isn't allowed to have any communication with him.
Speaker 2: But now that he's enrolled at your school just as
Speaker 2: a student, maybe the portal doesn't matter because he's not
Speaker 2: he doesn't need to try. I don't know, but if
Speaker 2: that's the case, every kid would do that, right, Like, Hey,
Speaker 2: the portal's closed, So I'm gonna drop out of school
Speaker 2: and not go through the portal. I'm gonna enroll as
Speaker 2: a student and then just you know, show up and
Speaker 2: be on the team and that'll leave me from that'll
Speaker 2: keep me from having to go through the actual process
Speaker 2: of documenting. Hey, I'm basically entering free agency. But he's
Speaker 2: not going to play this week. Clearly he's not on
Speaker 2: the team right now. Maybe that changes soon, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's the latest on that, and as far as
Speaker 2: who is going to step in for And by the way,
Speaker 2: it was really tough to hear Jeff talk about how
Speaker 2: well Colin Lacy had started to play before his injury
Speaker 2: and talked about how they had a lot of different
Speaker 2: plans as far as how they were going to utilize
Speaker 2: what he can do. So, you know, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if we see him at all this year. To be
Speaker 2: honest with you, that's not me sharing, you know, behind
Speaker 2: the scenes news. That's not me with any kind of
Speaker 2: a scoop. But I just think you know, we had
Speaker 2: doctor Larry Benson last week, and I don't think he was,
Speaker 2: you know, just throwing this timeline out there, just guessing.
Speaker 2: I think eight to twelve weeks is a more realistic
Speaker 2: window of time for Colin Lacy given the you know,
Speaker 2: the bad break that he had in that collar bone
Speaker 2: and the surgery that was needed to you know, for
Speaker 2: him to recover. So you don't have Colin Lacey, we've
Speaker 2: known that, and you don't have a Mariy Huggins Bruce
Speaker 2: at least right now. Maybe you do down the line,
Speaker 2: but it sounds like the first receiver that's going to
Speaker 2: get a chance to fill that void left with Lacy's
Speaker 2: injury is Jaden Thompson, who you know, he's one of
Speaker 2: many guys at receiver for Louisville that I think they
Speaker 2: like what they have as far as you know his ability,
Speaker 2: you just want it to be consistent, and you want
Speaker 2: them to be a reliable option, a reliable playmaker, a
Speaker 2: reliable weapon for you. And I don't know what the
Speaker 2: is for Jayden Thompson as far as you know, could
Speaker 2: he be an All Conference caliber player, But you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like he's made enough plays in
Speaker 2: practice to where they feel like he's he's good enough.
Speaker 2: But man, in football, I'm sure there's plenty of guys
Speaker 2: that when it comes to just pure ability, coaches don't
Speaker 2: really question that. It's about can you consistently be a
Speaker 2: reliable option? And I feel like Jayden Thompson is kind
Speaker 2: of there with Chris Bell now. Jayden Thompson last year
Speaker 2: just twelve catches, one touchdown. I mean, it wasn't as
Speaker 2: if he had the same type of year that Chris
Speaker 2: Bell had. But you know, you don't even have to
Speaker 2: be an insider, you know, Jaydon Thompson is a guy
Speaker 2: that when it comes to just talent and ability, there's
Speaker 2: been enough out there on him that, you know, the
Speaker 2: coaching staff clearly thinks he's good, but he's not done
Speaker 2: enough to earn a starting spot until I guess now
Speaker 2: because of this injury. And Chris Bell has actually made
Speaker 2: some pretty big time plays. And by the way, he
Speaker 2: caught twenty nine passes last year, four hundred yards, two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: and I feel like a few of those twenty nine
Speaker 2: catches were pretty impressive plays where he just went up
Speaker 2: and made a play, looking like an NBA two guard
Speaker 2: out there just you know, elevating over guys and making
Speaker 2: a big play. So I think they love him. It's
Speaker 2: just is he gonna be the guy that when the
Speaker 2: lights are on and you're playing real games, is he
Speaker 2: going to get open? He's gonna get himself open enough?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Is he gonna be able to you know, be a
Speaker 2: reliable be one of your top guys? Obviously, Jacorey Brooks
Speaker 2: from Alabama is somebody that they really really like. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's made enough plays at Alabama where you're not worried
Speaker 2: about is this guy good enough? But again it's about,
Speaker 2: you know, can you put it all together when it matters?
Speaker 2: And he he did that at Alabama for a few years.
Speaker 2: In fact, he was their top one of their top
Speaker 2: receivers in twenty twenty two whenever Bryce s Young was there.
Speaker 2: So I think with Chris Bell, with Jaden Thompson, with
Speaker 2: Jimmy Callaway, with Antonio Meek's Jacorey I mentioned Jegory Brooks
Speaker 2: guitarist Hicks like those are guys that I don't think
Speaker 2: the staff is having an internal conversation about their position
Speaker 2: and thinking they don't have it, they don't have the ability.
Speaker 2: It's just are these guys going to be able to
Speaker 2: get it done when it matters when the lights are on.
Speaker 2: And there's many gay, I mean, there's many guys over
Speaker 2: the years that it's one of the other right, Like
Speaker 2: look out there, make a play that you never would
Speaker 2: have expected. But man, when the lights are on, there
Speaker 2: different in a good way. And then there's guys that, man,
Speaker 2: they're all American looking at times in practice, but it
Speaker 2: just never has translated to you know, the actual field
Speaker 2: in a real game. I don't want to mention guys
Speaker 2: that you know you heard were great in practice, but
Speaker 2: it never translated. I'm sure you guys can think of some.
Speaker 2: But there's no better example for Louisville football as somebody
Speaker 2: like Kyle Bolin. I mean, he wasn't an All American,
Speaker 2: but there was never really any talk of him, you know,
Speaker 2: emerging as a real threat to win the starting quarterback
Speaker 2: job at Louisville when he was here. But man, when
Speaker 2: somebody went whenever I guess it was whenever, who was it?
Speaker 2: Was it Reggie Bonifon, Yeah, Bona Fon. Reggie went when
Speaker 2: Reggie went down. But I feel like twice Kyle came
Speaker 2: in for the starting quarterback. It might have been. It
Speaker 2: might have been Will Gardner who was your starter, and
Speaker 2: then Bona Fon got to play because Gardner was hurt,
Speaker 2: and then, yeah, that's what it was that season. It
Speaker 2: was Reggie became the starter because because Will Gardner got
Speaker 2: hurt and then you ended up on your third stringer
Speaker 2: with Kyle Bollen. And you know, not to say he
Speaker 2: was a bad practice player. I've never heard anything but
Speaker 2: good stuff about him. But you know, I think the
Speaker 2: staff was very, very much pleasantly surprised whenever they put
Speaker 2: him out there and he was just out there making plays.
Speaker 2: Helps when you can just throw it up to Devonte Parker.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I look, if these guys do
Speaker 2: show up and they make Sports Center highlight type plays
Speaker 2: against Austin p and against Jacksonville State, surely it's not
Speaker 2: going to, you know, be the same thing as if
Speaker 2: they did it against Florida State or against Miami or Clemson.
Speaker 2: But I think given the fact that they've never had
Speaker 2: big roles and they're going to be asked to have
Speaker 2: bigger roles this year, I mean, again, you have to
Speaker 2: wait and see if it's something that can translate when
Speaker 2: the competition gets much better but it would be a
Speaker 2: very encouraging sign if Tyler Shuck is out there and
Speaker 2: he's spreading it around and you're seeing these guys not
Speaker 2: only have the ability to get open but just make plays.
Speaker 2: And again, I know it's different doing it against Austin
Speaker 2: p than ACC teams, but I actually feel like it
Speaker 2: sets up nicely this year to where I don't mind
Speaker 2: that Louisville's playing Nobody's to get the season started. Selfishly,
Speaker 2: as a fan, I love when you open up against
Speaker 2: somebody that matters, because you know, it just puts more
Speaker 2: significance on the game. There's something that actually you know
Speaker 2: is real. Although you know these two games are real,
Speaker 2: that louis is gonna play in Week one and Week two,
Speaker 2: but it's just different. But I think now that you've
Speaker 2: got a lot of new pieces, and you're gonna have
Speaker 2: new pieces probably every year, because I think Brom's gonna
Speaker 2: continue to lean on the portal and I have in
Speaker 2: a major way. I think it actually makes sense to
Speaker 2: have these kind of games to kind of cut your
Speaker 2: teeth and get your feet underneath you a little bit.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I've never you know, just kind
Speaker 2: of going back to some of the other things that Jeff.
Speaker 2: As Jeff talked about today in his press conference, I've
Speaker 2: never felt as if his comments about the offense after
Speaker 2: their scrimmages was an alarming thing, although it wasn't something
Speaker 2: you should just ignore. And I also thought to myself,
Speaker 2: you know what, Jeff brohms probably in these scrimmages, calling
Speaker 2: place for an offense as they go up against the
Speaker 2: best defense he's ever gone up against in a training
Speaker 2: in a fall camp scrimmage. I mean, Louisville has depth
Speaker 2: on defense. They should be really good defensively this year.
Speaker 2: I'd be very disappointed if they're not one of the
Speaker 2: best defenses in the ACC this year, maybe top you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, they were one of the best defenses in
Speaker 2: the country last year for a good chunk of the season.
Speaker 2: I see no reason why they can't do that this year.
Speaker 2: So today it was nice to hear him not walk
Speaker 2: back what he had said, but you know, mention that
Speaker 2: it was really just that day, and sometimes you have
Speaker 2: bad days, and you don't want to have a bad
Speaker 2: day on a game day, right because you'll lose. It'll
Speaker 2: it'll get your beat. But it was nice to hear
Speaker 2: not only him kind of mention the defense being a
Speaker 2: factor in that struggle that struggled that they have offensively
Speaker 2: in the last fall in their last Saturday fall scrimmage,
Speaker 2: but he did say they scrimmaged this past Wednesday and
Speaker 2: the offense was much better. So, you know, I know
Speaker 2: it sounds like I'm building Louisville up to be, you know,
Speaker 2: a for sure playoff team when I say this, but
Speaker 2: you know, I don't mean it to sound like that.
Speaker 2: But Louisville's offense in practice and in scrimmages specifically, they're
Speaker 2: probably going to be facing a better defense than they
Speaker 2: will in the majority of the games they play this
Speaker 2: year because the defense is you know, even if the
Speaker 2: offense is pretty damn good this year, I'd still say
Speaker 2: the defense will be your strength, which, hey, that's a
Speaker 2: good thing. Means the offense doesn't have as much pressure
Speaker 2: to score. But it just feels weird knowing that Jeff
Speaker 2: Bram's your coach, because any scenario where Louisville looks like
Speaker 2: a team to really look out for and potentially maybe
Speaker 2: find themselves flirting for the playoff, not saying that's for
Speaker 2: sure we're gonna happen this year, but just when you
Speaker 2: think of Louisville having a really high ceiling with Jeff
Speaker 2: Brown being the coach, you think about the scoreboard being
Speaker 2: lit up pretty frequently. And last year we didn't see
Speaker 2: that as much as we probably would have ex did
Speaker 2: given the record that they had. But it's a good thing.
Speaker 2: It means the offense doesn't have as much pressure. All right,
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Speaker 2: That's me the company man John all On alongside. Today
Speaker 2: he had a birthday. He's feeling a little bit older.
Speaker 2: I feel very old looking at this list from FanDuel's Sportsbook,
Speaker 2: and that is a list of the father's son connections
Speaker 2: that we have this year in college football. One of
Speaker 2: them is on Louisville's team, aj Vin Terry, a Louisville Kickers,
Speaker 2: of course, the son of Adam Miniterry. But a lot
Speaker 2: of former NFL players that I had no clue had
Speaker 2: kids that played high level college football. I'm gonna assume
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys aren't like elite players because
Speaker 2: if so, it would be a storyline. It'd be I mean,
Speaker 2: if a better chance of being mentioned if you're good
Speaker 2: and you are the son of a legendary player. But
Speaker 2: Brian Rlacker has a son at Notre Dame that's a safety,
Speaker 2: had no clue. Willis Mcgahee's son, Willis McGahee the fifth
Speaker 2: is a linebacker at Nebraska.
Speaker 3: Each J.
Speaker 2: Warner quarterback at Rice, the son of Kurt Warner. Cole Pennington,
Speaker 2: a QB for Marshall. Obviously, his dad is Chad Pennington,
Speaker 2: who also played at Marshall. Jason Taylor, former Miami Dolphin.
Speaker 2: He has a son who is a tight end at LSU,
Speaker 2: Antonio Gates Junior. Obviously, his father legendary tight end who
Speaker 2: did not play college football by the way, just played
Speaker 2: college basketball and was a great tight end in the NFL.
Speaker 2: His son is at miss A Michigan State. Emmitt Smith Junior.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, not Emmitt Smith Junior.
Speaker 1: E J.
Speaker 2: Smith is at Texas A and m His father again,
Speaker 2: Emmitt Smith. Rodney Harrison has a son who's a defensive
Speaker 2: back at Tennessee named Christian Harrison. Eden James looks like
Speaker 2: he is a running back for Howard. Obviously, his his
Speaker 2: dad was, you know, one of his His dad was
Speaker 2: my first favorite Indianapolis colt, Edrin James. And then Matt
Speaker 2: Hasselback's son's name is Henry Hasselback's name right there, Henry Hasselback.
Speaker 2: It just sounds like you're important, doesn't it.
Speaker 6: He just sounds like the star quarterback on your favorite
Speaker 6: former high school football team when you were a child
Speaker 6: or when you were in high school.
Speaker 2: I should say, no, he sounds like a quarterback on
Speaker 2: a TV show, didn't he.
Speaker 6: I guess that's what I was going for when I
Speaker 6: was thinking high school and thinking like, you know, Friday
Speaker 6: night lights, that type of Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I say, I don't think people have a
Speaker 2: favorite high school team and listens to their team.
Speaker 3: Just came out of my mouth a little while.
Speaker 2: I think we were thinking the same thing.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Josh McCowan a legend, you know, legendary journeyman not I mean,
Speaker 2: I think he's probably played for more teams in the
Speaker 2: NFL at quarterback than anybody. He has a son named
Speaker 2: Owen McCown, who is a quarterback at it looks like utsa,
Speaker 2: which I mean, Josh McCowan just stopped playing like a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and now his son is a coyle.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just again it makes sense, Like it's
Speaker 2: not even like these guys had kids that are so
Speaker 2: you know, when they were so young. It's just the
Speaker 2: fact that, like, I'm getting old, and that's that's a
Speaker 2: sad thing. I don't think it makes anybody else sad
Speaker 2: but me. But you know, another reminder, every they're in
Speaker 2: my face every day, John now being twenty seven, that makes.
Speaker 3: Me feel old. Just wait till I turn thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and it'll be.
Speaker 3: Here forty right around that time, won't.
Speaker 2: You don't say it again. Forty is a little scary
Speaker 2: for me. I mean, I got a little bit of time,
Speaker 2: but yeah, forty's Forty's kind of scary for me.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So Deon Sanders, if you saw him in the headlines
Speaker 2: in the last couple of days, it's for one of
Speaker 2: two things, and maybe you saw both these things. The
Speaker 2: good is that he opened up bank accounts and put
Speaker 2: a little bit over two thousand dollars in each of
Speaker 2: these accounts for every member of his football program that
Speaker 2: has a child. These are bank accounts for the children
Speaker 2: of his players. So that's like, you know, to get
Speaker 2: them started on saving money. You know, obviously if you're
Speaker 2: playing for Colorado, it sounds like you're making big money
Speaker 2: because of nil, So that's really doing some of the
Speaker 2: legwork to you know, use that money to you know,
Speaker 2: to benefit not just you when you want to hang
Speaker 2: out and you know, buy video games or buy a
Speaker 2: new car, but you know, save some of that money
Speaker 2: for your child, not only for maybe their college fund,
Speaker 2: but you know, having a child, it costs money. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can I can tell you that firsthand, so that
Speaker 2: that's a good, good gesture. But the other thing he's
Speaker 2: in the news for, I just think is another reminder
Speaker 2: that this guy. He One thing Dion Sanders is not
Speaker 2: is dumb. He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3: He knows he is.
Speaker 2: I mean, in fact, I think he's he's doing too
Speaker 2: much as far as just trying to show everybody he's
Speaker 2: not like any other coach, and he doesn't want to
Speaker 2: be like any other coach. He's gonna do things his
Speaker 2: way because he's prime. Then again, remember when he got
Speaker 2: pissed that somebody didn't call him coach. You you wouldn't call.
Speaker 3: Uh saving nick, call me a coach?
Speaker 2: I remember that nonsense. Yes, I mean, like he's a
Speaker 2: college What do you want, dude? You just want to
Speaker 2: be combative, like you you're like you know, so I've
Speaker 2: gone from just you know, not really caring, and I don't.
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm gonna lose sleep if they're good,
Speaker 2: because you know, I don't. I don't care that much.
Speaker 2: It doesn't consume me. But if they lose and they
Speaker 2: fail this year, I have no problem in telling you
Speaker 2: I'm going to take great satisfaction because that's you know,
Speaker 2: I think that's human nature for a lot of people,
Speaker 2: myself included. When you act entitled, when you act is
Speaker 2: if you've accomplished something, you are superior. You can do
Speaker 2: things different because you're better than everybody, and yet you
Speaker 2: have nothing to actually give you that feel like there's
Speaker 2: no substance there with him, it's all flash. I just
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of folks that just here hear
Speaker 2: people that are entitled for no reason and they wanted
Speaker 2: to be humbled. I think it's human nature. And yes,
Speaker 2: he's accomplished a lot as a celebrity. As an athlete,
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a hell of a player. There's
Speaker 2: nobody that would deny that, and what he did when
Speaker 2: he did it is not something you'll probably ever see again.
Speaker 2: As far as being able to play both and be
Speaker 2: really good at both at times. I mean, he wasn't
Speaker 2: just a guy who just decided to get out on
Speaker 2: the baseball field like Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3: He was good.
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about baseball to know, like you know,
Speaker 2: where he ranks all time, but I mean he he
Speaker 2: was good enough to be a legitimate part of what
Speaker 2: the Braves were doing. So he's very accomplished there. But
Speaker 2: you know, his ego, his persona gives him the I guess,
Speaker 2: the mindset that he superior to everybody. And I hate
Speaker 2: to say this, I don't give a damn about what
Speaker 2: he won at Jackson State. That's not what this is.
Speaker 2: That doesn't I mean like him being voted as the
Speaker 2: second worst team or i'm sorry, the second worst coach
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve this year was insanely justifiable given
Speaker 2: the fact that he went four and eighty years ago
Speaker 2: with two kids that everybody in the country wanted on
Speaker 2: their team more than two. But like you know, clearly
Speaker 2: he hit Trevis Hunter. I mean, let's be real here,
Speaker 2: his son. People think Shittor is going to be a
Speaker 2: maybe the first pick in the draft. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think that's nonsense that people think that's really what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But either way, like he has a lot of arrogance
Speaker 2: out him, but it's it's misplaced. I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: should be overly arrogant. But look, if you've got the credentials,
Speaker 2: you've got the resume, it's still I think a turn
Speaker 2: off to a lot of people when it comes to
Speaker 2: your personality if you're arrogant, but it's different, and there's
Speaker 2: a difference in being extremely arrogant and having really nothing
Speaker 2: to show for it and then being you know, but
Speaker 2: there's difference of doing that and then being arrogant, and
Speaker 2: it's just as you know, a turn off to people
Speaker 2: as again as far as your personality, but at least
Speaker 2: you do have some credentials. As he coach, Deon Sanders
Speaker 2: hasn't done anything at this level that would warrant him
Speaker 2: feeling like he can just you know, do things differently
Speaker 2: than anybody else has done it. As a coach, again,
Speaker 2: it's one thing to just go against the grain and
Speaker 2: not just you know, go with emotion and do what
Speaker 2: you think be yourself, right, There's something to be original,
Speaker 2: There's something to be said about being original and you know,
Speaker 2: being unique, and that's clearly what Dion's always going to be.
Speaker 2: But for him to ban a columnist from asking questions
Speaker 2: at a press conference is the softest, just most ridiculous
Speaker 2: thing ever. And you gotta wonder, if you're Colorado, do
Speaker 2: you have any control of your program? Because anybody that
Speaker 2: works within the athletic department at Colorado knows that this
Speaker 2: is a terrible look for them, not only because like,
Speaker 2: that's not how this works. You don't just let people
Speaker 2: ask questions who are going to drool over you and
Speaker 2: act like you are, you know great. You ask questions
Speaker 2: from people who are there to objectively report on your
Speaker 2: team and your program. So Stafford, Yeah, he's a columnist.
Speaker 2: Let's see what his name is here. He works for
Speaker 2: the Yeah, he's a Denver columnist, and he has been
Speaker 2: told he's not going to be allowed to ask questions
Speaker 2: at the press conferences this year for Colorado football because
Speaker 2: this series of sustained personal attacks on Dion. Sanders, a
Speaker 2: sports information staffer for Colorado, cited this writer's use of
Speaker 2: the phrases such as false profit deposition, don Planet Prime,
Speaker 2: Bruce Lee of BS the Dion kool Aid Circus. Again,
Speaker 2: that's a columnist sharing his opinion, which is what he's
Speaker 2: supposed to do. That's how this has worked since the
Speaker 2: beginning of time when it comes to college football. In
Speaker 2: those that are columnists and that are supposed to share opinions,
Speaker 2: They're not supposed to drool over you. They're not supposed
Speaker 2: to be fanboys. That's not their job. Like, this is
Speaker 2: a guy just doing his job. And the fact that
Speaker 2: it's getting under your skin is such a weak look.
Speaker 2: And you can't claim it's not getting under your skin
Speaker 2: and you've already shown your insanely thin skin.
Speaker 3: Why how you.
Speaker 2: Acted it to CBS Sports because they happen to have
Speaker 2: the nerve to put a football coach with a four
Speaker 2: and eight record as the second to last or I
Speaker 2: guess you know, second to last worst coach in the league.
Speaker 2: So it's a Denver Post column it's his name is
Speaker 2: Sean Keeler, and he can he's going to be allowed
Speaker 2: to go to the press conferences, but he can't ask questions.
Speaker 2: Why would he go, right? I mean he could just
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean, like the point
Speaker 2: of that, here's what it says, says. After a series
Speaker 2: of sustained personal attacks on the football program and specifically
Speaker 2: coach Prime, the cu athletic Department, in conjunction with the
Speaker 2: football program, have decided not to take questions from Denver
Speaker 2: Post columnist Sean Keeler at football related events. Keeler is
Speaker 2: still permitted to a ten football related activities as a
Speaker 2: credential member of the media, and other reporters from the
Speaker 2: Denver Poster welcome to ask questions of football program personnel
Speaker 2: made available to the media, including coaches, players and staff. Look,
Speaker 2: media people feel entitled a lot. I understand that totally.
Speaker 2: Like I get it. Like media complaining about the meals
Speaker 2: they get is such a nauseating thing because like you're
Speaker 2: not really part of the show. You're there, like you
Speaker 2: have a job to do, and coverage is important to
Speaker 2: a lot of people, but like you know where your
Speaker 2: seat is, Like if you get if they let you
Speaker 2: in and you have access, and you know, maybe you
Speaker 2: don't like the meal, or maybe you missed the meal,
Speaker 2: or maybe you're not treated as nicely here as you were,
Speaker 2: Like you're not entitled to that, but to be told
Speaker 2: you're allowed to come, but we're not taking your question.
Speaker 2: You were mean, Like that's the softest thing I've ever
Speaker 2: seen in college football. And yes, all coaches are thin skinned,
Speaker 2: especially those that you know, feel like they should be
Speaker 2: respected more than they are because they have a different
Speaker 2: view of themselves than other people. But like Dion hasn't
Speaker 2: won anything, and I don't know if he's really getting disrespected.
Speaker 2: I mean, if the local guy who writes for the
Speaker 2: Denver Post that most of us has ever heard of, that, Like,
Speaker 2: imagine what happens if, like, you know, the college game
Speaker 2: day crew starts coming after you because you keep losing.
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do then? Like, I just don't
Speaker 2: get it. Dion Sanders could win national he won't, but
Speaker 2: he could win a national championship for the next five years.
Speaker 2: Maybe he wins two in the next decade. You know
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. There's still gonna be people that want
Speaker 2: to want to tear you down, still going to be
Speaker 2: columnists that are going to try to go against the
Speaker 2: grain and discredit you, because that's how all this works,
Speaker 2: you idiot. No matter what you do, the media will
Speaker 2: always try to find a way to discredit act as
Speaker 2: if what you accomplished is not as impressive. That's how
Speaker 2: this works. Look at the best basketball player on the planet,
Speaker 2: Lebron James. It's one of the other people talking about
Speaker 2: his legacy as if he's better than Jordan, or people
Speaker 2: claiming he's not even as good as you think he is.
Speaker 2: He hasn't done this, he hasn't done that. That's how
Speaker 2: this works. So to not have accomplished anything and already
Speaker 2: feel as if you're mean to me, you're soft, and
Speaker 2: you can't go out there on the field and shut
Speaker 2: people up. You have to coach the players on the
Speaker 2: field to shut people up. And we don't know if
Speaker 2: you can do that yet, Prime, We don't know. You
Speaker 2: haven't shown us that. And the fact that Colorado's athletic
Speaker 2: department releases things and only calls him coach Prime makes
Speaker 2: me one of vomit. I'm getting crotchety in my old age.
Speaker 3: John.
Speaker 2: He might be great this year, but he had like
Speaker 2: anybody claiming Deon Sanders is a really good coach at
Speaker 2: this level of college football, is playing with Colorado in
Speaker 2: the new video game because he hasn't done that yet.
Speaker 2: He might and if he does he's going to be
Speaker 2: loud about it, and he should be because that's him being him.
Speaker 2: But when you're loud about how great you are and
Speaker 2: how great you're going to be and then you don't
Speaker 2: do it, to be this thin skinned is just hilarious
Speaker 2: to me. All right, Five two, five, seven, seventy nine
Speaker 2: hundred is the number. If you guys want to jump
Speaker 2: in and give us a call. Let's go to Austin. Austin,
Speaker 2: what's happening?
Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on? I was listening that you're just
Speaker 4: getting off and work here. You know, when I think
Speaker 4: about this whole situation, a whole lot of what you're
Speaker 4: saying makes sense, and a whole lot of how Dion
Speaker 4: is handling things somewhat makes sense. I mean this it's
Speaker 4: a touchy kind of situation because why so Heah, he's
Speaker 4: been around, he understands the media, and just like he's saying,
Speaker 4: that's how it works. You know, they the media can
Speaker 4: be tricky. They can come after every one minute, build
Speaker 4: you up, you're this, you're that, and then the next
Speaker 4: minute see him something.
Speaker 2: But Austin, if he knows that, like you said, why
Speaker 2: would he? I mean, what does he think he's doing
Speaker 2: by telling people they can't ask questions. Like I think
Speaker 2: clearly he's not dumb at all. I think he's a
Speaker 2: very smart guy. I think he's very bright. But this,
Speaker 2: to me, I don't see how it can be viewed
Speaker 2: as anything other than being thin skinned. Because again, you're right,
Speaker 2: he knows all about it. He knows that they're gonna
Speaker 2: try to tear him down build him up. That's just
Speaker 2: how it works. Like in fact, I think he should
Speaker 2: be more prepared to deal with this kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: and yet I just I don't know. To me, it
Speaker 2: seems more like a circus to him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I'm not mis grinned with Jalla, But
Speaker 4: here's what I'm and here's what I'm gonna judge be
Speaker 4: on on right now if he keeps hisself professional, because
Speaker 4: if he's gonna act like this, he better not let
Speaker 4: anything outside of the best of the football get out
Speaker 4: of hand. If he's gonna do this and play that role,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna ask questions and I'm gonna turn this
Speaker 4: media down. He met a run a clean ship. That's
Speaker 4: all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, Austin. Yeah, and that's one of
Speaker 2: those things that like professionalism. You know, I he's not
Speaker 2: been professional. I think telling a CBS reporter for the
Speaker 2: local CBS affiliate who has nothing to do with CBS
Speaker 2: Sports that you won't take his question because of what
Speaker 2: CBS did, which was again rank him as the second
Speaker 2: to last coach in the Big twelve and then do
Speaker 2: this like that's not professional at all. And you don't
Speaker 2: get to define what is professional when you are new
Speaker 2: in this industry as a coach. I mean, there are
Speaker 2: coaches who are a holes compared to Dion. I think
Speaker 2: they would never do that because they understand like that's
Speaker 2: just you know, they probably want to tell everybody who
Speaker 2: asked him a question, shut up, you're not worthy of
Speaker 2: a response for me, get out of my presence. Coaches
Speaker 2: are arrogant, a holes, but they like, that's not how
Speaker 2: this works. And Dion is just trying to change it.
Speaker 2: And again he's getting away with it. His bosses are
Speaker 2: letting him do it. But that makes to me, like again,
Speaker 2: with the way he's carried himself and the way he's
Speaker 2: gone about everything, it to me, it's put it to where, dude,
Speaker 2: you better win. If not, the noise is going to
Speaker 2: be loud as can be from people who want to
Speaker 2: clown you, including myself. I'm one of those people. And
Speaker 2: yet I guess you know, if I worked for a
Speaker 2: Colorado outlet and I did it, I wouldn't be allowed
Speaker 2: around anymore to ask any question. It's just the softest
Speaker 2: thing ever. All Right, we got a run. We'll have
Speaker 2: a short segment here to wrap up four o'clock hour,
Speaker 2: Its coffee and company. Feel about Thornton's right here on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety. Some big news in the NFL today,
Speaker 2: as ceedee, Lamb has signed a big time extension. I
Speaker 2: believe he is the second highest paid player now in
Speaker 2: the NFL. Out that's not a quarterback. So that's a
Speaker 2: guy that Dallas needed to make sure the care of.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if this means that Dallas
Speaker 2: with Lamb back is going to be, you know, contending
Speaker 2: for a super Bowl, because you know, I believe that
Speaker 2: when I see it. But that guy had actually deserved
Speaker 2: and earned a big contract, where some other guys at
Speaker 2: his positioned, not to say they didn't deserve to be paid,
Speaker 2: but like City, Lamb had a hell of a year
Speaker 2: last year, and it's going to be I think a huge,
Speaker 2: huge factor in the NFL for many years to come.
Speaker 2: So four years, one hundred and thirty six million dollar
Speaker 2: extension with one hundred million dollars of that guaranteed, So
Speaker 2: you know, a lot more money than me and probably
Speaker 2: you too, if we're being honest. So here is the
Speaker 2: income after taxes. Thirty four million in salary because twelve
Speaker 2: point six million is in federal tax, There's one million
Speaker 2: in jock tax, one million to his agent, and then
Speaker 2: eight hundred thousand in Medicare, So his net income eighteen
Speaker 2: point six million. That's according to a sports business analyst here,
Speaker 2: that does a good job of nerding out on the
Speaker 2: real fiveinancials of these guys, which, yes, you know, Uncle
Speaker 2: Sam gets a cut, and he gets a huge cut
Speaker 2: if you've got a huge amount of money. That's how
Speaker 2: it works, all right. So it's not just Dion that
Speaker 2: you know has gone soft here. Apparently Dabo Sweeney has
Speaker 2: gone which I'll be honest with you, I don't know
Speaker 2: for sure, but I would be willing to bet that
Speaker 2: Dabbo is not the one who decided they'd no longer
Speaker 2: take calls on his Coaches show, because I think Dabbo
Speaker 2: likes tee and off on people, and I can respect that.
Speaker 2: Dabo a lot of the things he says I get.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna say one thing about Dabbo. He's
Speaker 2: at least consistent, and he's he's you know, he's gonna
Speaker 2: do what he wants to do, and he's gonna, I think,
Speaker 2: give you honest answers. And I mean, again, that didn't
Speaker 2: make me like him. I don't think he's a very
Speaker 2: likable guy, but I can at least appreciate that part
Speaker 2: of it. So the Clemson sid has reported that they
Speaker 2: will no longer or I guess inform the media that
Speaker 2: they're not long gonna take live callers on that radio show,
Speaker 2: and this comes after their encounter with Tyler from Spartan
Speaker 2: during last year's football season, after Clemson started the season
Speaker 2: four and four.
Speaker 7: But the part of the problem is the appreciation. I
Speaker 7: used to tell people all the time, that's say, what's
Speaker 7: the difference in Clemson. I'm gonna tell you, At some
Speaker 7: places there's an expectation, but at Clemson there's an appreciation.
Speaker 7: And what's happened at Clemson is we've won so much
Speaker 7: that even when we used to be the funds in
Speaker 7: the winning. Now, even when you win, people like you
Speaker 7: complain and criticize the coaches and question everything. People like you,
Speaker 7: all right, When I hired Tony Elliott to be the
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator who never called a play in his life,
Speaker 7: I'm sure you were critical then, all right, and he
Speaker 7: took us to two national championships. People like you who
Speaker 7: just love to destroy people with your comments. All right,
Speaker 7: I'm sure you've never made any bad decisions. I'm sure
Speaker 7: you've lived a perfect life. I'm sure you've never I'm
Speaker 7: sure you've led a bunch of people. I'm sure you
Speaker 7: do your job in front. So to answer your question,
Speaker 7: I started as the lowest paid coach in this freaking business,
Speaker 7: all right, And I'm where I am because I've worked
Speaker 7: my ass off every single day and I ain't gonna
Speaker 7: let some smart ass kid get on this phone and
Speaker 7: create this stuff.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I kind of love that it's not
Speaker 2: something you ever want your I mean, that's a guy
Speaker 2: that really let one caller, some smart ass kid, as
Speaker 2: he says, he took it off the rails. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you start going resume on somebody that screams that,
Speaker 2: you know you're feeling insecure about people questioning you. I mean,
Speaker 2: in fact, don't have it all together. But hey, I
Speaker 2: think Debo would do that again if they took calls
Speaker 2: on his show, because that's who he is, and I
Speaker 2: can at least respect that. All Right, we got to
Speaker 2: get to the top of the hour break here. We
Speaker 2: got one more hour to go, the five o'clock hour,
Speaker 2: and a lot to get to dig around. I mean,
Speaker 2: why would you not what else you got to do?
Speaker 2: Whatever it is you were thinking about doing, I can
Speaker 2: tell you it won't be as good as this five
Speaker 2: o'clock hour.
Speaker 3: Coming your way.
Speaker 2: I can't promise that guarante. I can't guarantee it, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try my best. That's what I That's what
Speaker 2: I give you. That's what I'll give you, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm not gonna let some smart ass kids tell
Speaker 2: me otherwise either,