1 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:33,719 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from 2 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,479 Voysey Adohol. This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, 3 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,880 we're going to bring you this week's episode of DRAGONNAT. 4 00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:45,280 But first I want to encourage you. If you're enjoying 5 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,000 the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software. 6 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,200 Today's program is brought to you in part by the 7 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,640 financial support of our listeners. You can support the show 8 00:00:57,759 --> 00:01:00,920 on a one time basis by mailing a donation to 9 00:01:01,159 --> 00:01:06,120 Adam Graham peelbox one five nine one three. That's peel 10 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,959 box one five nine thirteen boise Alahol eight three seven 11 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:17,159 one five. But now, from August twenty third, nineteen fifty one, 12 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:19,560 here is the Big in Laws. 13 00:01:28,439 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true, only 14 00:01:31,519 --> 00:01:42,879 the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're 15 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,760 a detective sergeant here assigned a robbery detail. A gang 16 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:50,319 of hijackers is set up operations in your city. Truckloads 17 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:54,400 of merchandise worth thousands of dollars vanished completely. The criminals 18 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,120 know their business, their system appears foolproof. 19 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: Your job stop them. 20 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: Drag met the documented drama of an actual crime. Well, 21 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,120 the next thirty minutes in cooperation of the Los Angeles 22 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:19,039 Police Department. You will travel step by step on the 23 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,680 side of the law through an actual case transcribed from 24 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:25,319 official police by us. From beginning to end, and from 25 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,280 crime to punishment. Drag Net is the story of your 26 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,360 police force in action. 27 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:36,599 Speaker 5: It was Saturday, November eight, was foggy in Los Angeles. 28 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,319 We're working the day watch out of robbery detail. My 29 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,520 partner's Ben Romero. The boss's captain Didion. My name is Friday. 30 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 6: I was on the way back from R and I and. 31 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:46,439 Speaker 5: It was eleven twenty three am when I got THROUGHOM 32 00:02:46,479 --> 00:02:48,680 twenty seven eight robbery detail. 33 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 7: Joe, Hi, where you've been anyhow? I've been sitting here 34 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,439 twenty minutes waiting for you. 35 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,039 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. 36 00:02:54,039 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 5: I've been checking a couple of names through and I 37 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:56,840 took a little longer, and I figured. 38 00:02:56,599 --> 00:02:57,879 Speaker 6: At least you could do is leave a note in 39 00:02:57,879 --> 00:02:59,280 the book. I do the same for you. I've been 40 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,840 sitting here, George. I'm sorry. What's the matter? You feeling well? No, 41 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:06,439 I'm alright. It just like a little cooperation, Joetso what's 42 00:03:06,439 --> 00:03:08,000 the matter with you? Oh? I don't know. 43 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 7: I guess I was mad when I woke up at 44 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:12,360 a crazy house. What's the trouble? You have an argue with 45 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,639 your wife in laws? They're visioning again? Sex of them? 46 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 6: Or were they sleeping all over the place? 47 00:03:16,599 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 7: For adults? Two kids in a great Fox terrier. He's 48 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,400 not even house broken. How long are you gonna stay? 49 00:03:21,479 --> 00:03:22,120 A couple of days? 50 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,439 Speaker 6: Two weeks? I don't know how I can last about Joe. 51 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 7: They're crawling all over the place, kids, gleaming dog caring 52 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,599 up the front room. 53 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 6: No privacy. 54 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 5: I don't know what I'm gonna do. Well, why don't 55 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,319 you just level with him? Ask him they wouldn't mind 56 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,879 standing at a motel for a couple of days. I 57 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,800 suggested that to the wife this morning. What do you 58 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,400 think that's when the argument's started? Hey, I almost forgot 59 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:38,919 to tell you that. 60 00:03:38,879 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 7: Truck driver finally showed up at uh Frank Burns. 61 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's about time. Where is? 62 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 7: He took him across the hall of the mug room, 63 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:46,599 got him checking out some coming out mug books. 64 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,599 Speaker 6: I guess we better see how he's doing all right? 65 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 7: He sure took his time to get away, didn't He 66 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,599 didn't offer any excuses. He's no more help than he 67 00:03:54,759 --> 00:03:57,560 was yesterday, surly not very cooperating. 68 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 6: How you doing, mister Burros? 69 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 7: You'n't limber my partner story of Friday. I got a headache. 70 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:09,240 This is just a waste of time waiting through all 71 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,919 these pictures. I've been through two of these books already. 72 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,479 I couldn't identify any of the guys. 73 00:04:13,639 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, we know it's pretty tedious. We'd just like to 74 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,879 have you check through a few more volumes if you 75 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:18,959 wouldn't mind. Look, I don't mind giving you a hand 76 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:20,480 when I got time, but I got things. 77 00:04:20,319 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 6: To do today. I got some on for the night, 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,000 have to get a haircut, my suit pressed. Well, this 79 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:27,199 thing's pretty important to us. Burroughs. I know we're putting 80 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:28,560 you out, but we need every lead we can get. 81 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 5: We'd certainly appreciate it if you could just give us 82 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:31,360 a little more cooperation. 83 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 7: I don't know what else I can do. I told 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,439 you everything, I know, just what happened. A few more 85 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,120 things we'd like to ask you about. Is there some 86 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,680 of the details you didn't make quite clear? 87 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 6: What details? How do you mean details about the hijacking? 88 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:43,720 Mind going over with the gain voice? 89 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 7: Well later it out for you. The last time he 90 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,480 talked to me just the way it went. It's the 91 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,040 same as the rest. Well, how do you mean the 92 00:04:49,079 --> 00:04:49,759 same as the rest? 93 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,959 Speaker 6: Well, the other hijackings are the same as though it 94 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,199 was no different. You're pretty familiar with the other jobs, 95 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:54,639 aren't well? 96 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 7: Follow them in the paper or the bullet and the 97 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,519 cops got out on him. It's up on the dispatch 98 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,319 board in the garage. Is that fresh water? 99 00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 6: And I coud over there? Yeah? I think so happens 100 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,480 to night. I have a pup last one for his headache. 101 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:16,360 Can't take asphin it's not water. You know you've been 102 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:18,600 driving a couple of years for Lavell Trucking Line. Is 103 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,199 that right, bros? 104 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:19,959 Speaker 8: That's right? 105 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:20,879 Speaker 6: Yeah? 106 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 5: What if you'd mind running it through for us again? Bro, 107 00:05:23,399 --> 00:05:25,199 Maybe there's a few details about the thing that you 108 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:25,920 forgot to mention. 109 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,759 Speaker 7: It won't be any different. And last time I pulled 110 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:31,079 out from the load and dock about six o'clock yesterday 111 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,439 morning hauling a load of Scotch whiskey over to Phoenix, 112 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:36,240 pulled up for the red lighted Alameda and Jackson. That's 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,800 when the guy pulled open the door and got in 114 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,560 next to me, put a gun in my ribs told 115 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,360 me look straight ahead. The first thing he did was 116 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,839 hand me the pair of goggles and tell me to 117 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,720 put him on same kind of the welders use. Front 118 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,199 of the lens was covered with the tape. I put 119 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:47,519 him on. 120 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,399 Speaker 6: I couldn't see a thing. Guy took over the wheel 121 00:05:49,399 --> 00:05:51,279 and started driving. Well, does you have any idea what 122 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,519 direction you were heading in? Not with the goggles on. 123 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:55,199 Speaker 7: I tried to follow it first, but I got all 124 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:57,319 mixed up, couldn't tell where he was driving, made quite 125 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,399 a few turns. He drove about twenty twenty five minutes, 126 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:02,279 I guess before we pulled up that's where the switching 127 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,720 point was. Two more guys met us there. I could 128 00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:06,319 only tell by the voices. They put me out of 129 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:07,399 the truck and put me in a car. 130 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 5: Well, can you tell us anything at all about that 131 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,000 transfer point? I mean, were there any sounds or anything 132 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,959 like that that give you an idea that maybe. 133 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 6: Where you were? 134 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,199 Speaker 7: Well, I figure it must have been someplace out in 135 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:18,920 the valley, pretty far out, no traffic sounds at all, 136 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:21,600 just cricket scene and things like that. You got me 137 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,680 in that car, drove around about an hour, I figure, 138 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,040 and they put me on out side of the road, 139 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,000 told me to leave the goggles on for ten minutes, 140 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,800 and then they drove off. 141 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:30,959 Speaker 5: Well, how about those two men at the transfer point? 142 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,759 If you heard their voices again, you think you could 143 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:33,360 recognize them. 144 00:06:33,399 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 6: I don't No, I dit it. I didn't say too much, 145 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,439 not that I heard anyway. 146 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,439 Speaker 7: I'm just curious, Bruhs, how is it you thought of 147 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,920 calling your company first instead of the police. Well, it's 148 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,560 their cargo, hold old a whiskey. If somebody hijacked that, 149 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,279 I figured the company ought to be the first to know. 150 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 5: I like to ask you just one more question. There's 151 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,279 no offense intended here. Yeah, have you ever been arrested? 152 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:51,319 Speaker 2: Why? 153 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,439 Speaker 6: What'd that have to do with? Probably nothing at all. 154 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,560 Have you ever been arrested? 155 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,439 Speaker 7: I'd like to set you straight on it right now. 156 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,240 If you think I was working inside on this thing, 157 00:06:58,319 --> 00:06:59,759 you got it wrong. I didn't have anything to do 158 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,000 with it, and there's nothing to worry about it, all right. Yeah, 159 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,839 I've been arrested that Burroughs about ten years ago. It 160 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:08,600 was back east West Virginia. What was the chart hijacking? 161 00:07:10,399 --> 00:07:13,519 Speaker 5: Our records showed no previous arrests for Frank Burrows for 162 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,360 the next few days. 163 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 6: He was kept under observation. 164 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:19,199 Speaker 5: When we got the kickback from Washington, it showed Burrows 165 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:21,480 had one previous arrest, the one he told us about, 166 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:25,279 for hijacking. We checked all his friends, relatives and associates. 167 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:28,600 We found nothing suspicious. His employers said that they were 168 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:30,600 aware of his police record, but they told us that 169 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,360 Burrows was one of the best drivers they had. There 170 00:07:33,399 --> 00:07:35,720 was nothing to link him with a series of hijackings 171 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,439 which had been going on all over the city for 172 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,199 the past month. 173 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,519 Speaker 6: Our crime lab checked the pair of goggles which Burrows 174 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:43,480 had been forced to wear during the hijacking. 175 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:47,279 Speaker 5: They were an ordinary industrial type, easily obtained and impossible 176 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:50,199 to trace other than those belonging to Burrows. There were 177 00:07:50,199 --> 00:07:53,920 no fingerprints on them. Late that afternoon, the missing truck 178 00:07:53,959 --> 00:07:56,279 and trailer was found empty in a deserted section of 179 00:07:56,319 --> 00:07:59,120 the valley, no latent, fingerprints or other physical evidence. 180 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 6: Nine am the next morning, we met with Captain Dideon. 181 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 7: Carcos going on how to trace something that said Skipper 182 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,920 High Great Scott's Whiskey. One hundred and fifty cases you 183 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,279 got out of bullets and all the liquor wholesalers, serial numbers, listening. 184 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 6: That ex con Burrows. Nothing turned up on him, No, nothing, 185 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,879 We double checked. Everything about him is clean. You didn't 186 00:08:15,879 --> 00:08:18,040 get anything off, had abandon the truck, no prints, no 187 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:20,279 physical evidence. Seems like they got it down to a science. 188 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:21,360 Sound like the fad Brown. 189 00:08:21,399 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 7: He's getting all the kicks from the warehouse operators. Thirty 190 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,720 days and six hijackings. How about moving faster? Well, as 191 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:29,240 you know, we got twelve steakhouts running down freight load 192 00:08:29,279 --> 00:08:32,360 skipper Yeah, incoming out going, got three girls in the Stat's. 193 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 6: Office doing nothing but making runs for us. No news respect. 194 00:08:34,879 --> 00:08:36,799 We've got a meeting with an informant after lunch. He 195 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,759 figures he may have something. There's nothing to bank on it. 196 00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:40,919 Speaker 7: How about an inside tip off on these jobs? Any 197 00:08:40,919 --> 00:08:43,759 indication the gang's working something like that. No, nothing, Definitely 198 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:45,639 skipper jobs seem to be pretty well cased. 199 00:08:45,639 --> 00:08:45,879 Speaker 6: Though. 200 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 7: We've checked out everybody with a record working. 201 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 6: For the trucking lines. No reason to think any of 202 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:50,519 them had to end in it. 203 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:59,279 Speaker 7: Excuse me a minute, didion Yeah, live Oak near Trenton, happening, Yeah, 204 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:03,080 I got it right, Thank you. Yet another truck earl 205 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,080 this morning, where there's a location. Better move on. It 206 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,320 looks like they got their signals crushed. Honey, mean, it 207 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:10,799 doesn't make sense. The cargo of the hijack, what was it? 208 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:11,919 A load of toothbrushes? 209 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:18,639 Speaker 5: Nine three am, Ben and I drove to the intersection 210 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,600 of Live Oat Drive and Trenton Avenue in the Hollywood Hills, 211 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,320 where we located the latest driver to. 212 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:26,279 Speaker 6: Fall victim to the gang of hijackers. His story was 213 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,279 the same as the others. 214 00:09:27,639 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 5: He'd stopped his truck for a red light at a 215 00:09:29,639 --> 00:09:32,159 deserted intersection when a man jumped on the running board 216 00:09:32,159 --> 00:09:34,399 and pointed a gun at his head. The man with 217 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,559 the gun took over the wheel and forced the driver 218 00:09:36,639 --> 00:09:37,480 to put on a pair. 219 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 6: Of black dot welders goggles. 220 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,759 Speaker 5: Then the truck was moved to a remote spot where 221 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:44,360 the driver was transferred to a car and later released 222 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,559 in the remote section of the Hollywood Hills. The hijack 223 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,399 truck was found empty a day later, and again there 224 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,519 was no physical evidence, no fingerprints. 225 00:09:52,879 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 6: The driver could add little to what we already knew. 226 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 5: The only point that made the case any different from 227 00:09:57,519 --> 00:09:59,519 those that had gone before was the cargo that had 228 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:00,000 been stolen. 229 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,399 Speaker 6: A load of toothbrushes. 230 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,519 Speaker 5: We began an immediate check of the neighborhood where, according 231 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,799 to the driver, he was first held up. It was 232 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,279 a fairly remote intersection in the San Fernando Valley. After 233 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,360 four hours of interviewing ranchers and gas station attendance, we 234 00:10:13,399 --> 00:10:15,679 talked to the operator of a practice driving range for 235 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,559 golfers located just off the highway. 236 00:10:17,799 --> 00:10:19,039 Speaker 6: His name was Fred Garrison. 237 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,639 Speaker 9: As a matter of fact, I did notice something out 238 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:22,759 of the ordinary this morning, a little four to six am, 239 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:25,120 I think, spotted this big semi turning off on that 240 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:26,440 dirt road down the highway there. 241 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 6: Now which dirt road is that, miss Garrison? 242 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 9: Oh, right up the highway there? Shit, Oh, it turns 243 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,000 off by that clump of trees. Couldn't figure out why 244 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,080 a big truck and trailer be taken that road. Doesn't 245 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:36,480 make sense. 246 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 6: What do you mean? 247 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 9: What's the dead end? No reason why a driver turned 248 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,919 off there by mistake. There's a big sign right there 249 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:44,399 at the intersection says not a through street right there? 250 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:45,320 See it plainnessday. 251 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 6: I wonder if he could describe the truck force, mister Garrison. 252 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 9: It was pretty good size, one of those big aluminum jobs. 253 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,600 Black lettering on the side. I think, yeah, it turned 254 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:54,559 off the highway, went down the dirt road a little ways, 255 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,399 and then it turned off into that grove of trees 256 00:10:56,399 --> 00:10:57,440 and the driver cut the lights. 257 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 7: Did you notice any activity going on in Goo? 258 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 6: No? 259 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 9: No, I didn't. Oh maybe I should have walked over 260 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,559 and checked it. I figured it was just some truck 261 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:06,320 driver pulling up to catch a few weeks asleep. 262 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 6: And I see my boy Dave was with me at the. 263 00:11:08,039 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 9: Time, wanted to check it, but I told him to 264 00:11:10,039 --> 00:11:10,919 mind his own business. 265 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 6: He says. A couple of minutes. 266 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 9: After the truck pulled in, he saw Gray s Dan 267 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,919 come down the road and park next to the truck, 268 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,159 right in that same clump of trees. 269 00:11:17,399 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 6: Well, I didn't always look a little suspicious to use her. 270 00:11:19,919 --> 00:11:21,279 Oh I suppose so, and away. 271 00:11:21,759 --> 00:11:23,759 Speaker 9: I just don't like the metal where it's not my business. 272 00:11:23,759 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 6: That's awful. Did your boy Dave get a good look 273 00:11:25,879 --> 00:11:26,879 at this grace oft and you. 274 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,919 Speaker 9: Know you want to come in the officer sit down? 275 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 6: Sure? 276 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:36,039 Speaker 7: Oh huh, hey, sit right there if you like. 277 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,279 Speaker 6: Thank you. 278 00:11:38,759 --> 00:11:41,919 Speaker 7: Let's see now where worry about your boy Dave's Oh yeah, 279 00:11:41,919 --> 00:11:43,919 you said that he saw Gray sa'dan pulling next to 280 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,240 the truck over in that plump of trees. 281 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 5: Did he mention anything else that he noticed about the car, 282 00:11:47,279 --> 00:11:48,480 I mean, other than the fact that it was a 283 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:49,039 gray Sedan. 284 00:11:49,399 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I think he did say something else about it. 285 00:11:51,919 --> 00:11:54,240 Let's see, I wasn't listening too close at the time. 286 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:57,240 Dave's doing some arians downtown for me right now. He'll 287 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,440 be phoning in pretty soon, though I can ask him 288 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,320 about it. Then he paid a lot more attention to 289 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,080 the thing than I did. 290 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,879 Speaker 5: Well, how long were the truck and trailer in the 291 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,240 Saedan park in the grove of trees? 292 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,039 Speaker 6: Do you remember there? 293 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 9: Well, not too long, maybe fifteen twenty minutes. The car 294 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:12,000 pulled out first and took off down the highway away 295 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,799 from town that way, see, and the truck and trailer 296 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,679 left few minutes after waste. 297 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:18,039 Speaker 7: Figure they were up to And we've got an idea 298 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,240 what time was that Againza, when you saw the truck 299 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,000 turn off the highway onto the dirt. 300 00:12:21,759 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 9: Room, About six am, maybe a few minutes one way 301 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:24,799 or the other. 302 00:12:25,159 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 6: I wonder if you'd show us the exact spot where 303 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,600 you saw that truck park, would you? Oh? 304 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:28,879 Speaker 2: Sure? 305 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,919 Speaker 9: Here you want to come over here with me to window. 306 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 6: Huh. 307 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 9: Now you see the clump of trees there? 308 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, how you glipped? How they bought it right on 309 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:38,720 the road. 310 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,799 Speaker 9: Yeah, maybe that's him now, yes, fair ways? Oh yeah, Dave, 311 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,840 how'd you make out? M oh fine, no, no, no, listen. 312 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:51,720 A couple of policemen here now. They're asking about that 313 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,360 truck and that gray Saedan you saw up on the 314 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:55,679 road this morning. I want to know what you noticed 315 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,000 about the Sadan besides the color a I. 316 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 5: Oh you did? 317 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 9: Uh huh, yeah, Well you better head back here. They 318 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:07,159 probably want to talk to you about it. All right, Davy? 319 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 6: Bye, what do you have to say? 320 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,639 Speaker 9: I'll hear be back in about twenty minutes. I figured 321 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,360 you want to talk to him? 322 00:13:12,399 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 6: How about the sedan? Said, you get a pretty good 323 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,879 look at it? Did he say? Yeah? 324 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:16,639 Speaker 9: I guess so he got part of a license number. 325 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,919 Speaker 5: Red Garrison's son, Dave returned and gave us all the 326 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,279 pertinent facts about the truck and the gray Sedan which 327 00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:26,919 he'd noticed in the neighborhood. 328 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 6: Early that morning. 329 00:13:27,639 --> 00:13:29,759 Speaker 5: His description of the truck and trailer what he saw, 330 00:13:29,919 --> 00:13:32,360 but anyway, Matt's closely with that of the latest vehicle 331 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,600 to be hijacked. He described the car as a gray Sedan, 332 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:36,879 and he said it looked to him like it was 333 00:13:36,879 --> 00:13:38,879 a late model Nash, but he couldn't be sure. 334 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:39,759 Speaker 6: He said. 335 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:42,759 Speaker 5: The first three units on the license plate were seventy seven. 336 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,679 The location in the grove of trees where the truck 337 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,879 had been spotted was checked thoroughly. Outside of some indefinite 338 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:52,240 tire tracks, there was no physical evidence. Four ten PM, 339 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,200 we put in a call to DMV and asked for 340 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,480 a rundown on the three license plate numbers. The next morning, 341 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,559 DMB returned to us a list of more than a 342 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,039 thousand auto registrations, which began with a figure seventy seven. 343 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:06,240 We went down the list and gradually eliminated six hundred 344 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,840 of these as not being physically close in description to 345 00:14:08,879 --> 00:14:10,840 the car scene by Garrison's boy Dave. 346 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 6: We kept checking. 347 00:14:12,799 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 5: Almost three hundred more on the list were registered in 348 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:17,480 distant parts of the state. That left us with over 349 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:20,320 one hundred vehicles registered in or around Los Angeles to 350 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:20,879 check out. 351 00:14:21,279 --> 00:14:23,679 Speaker 6: It went slow. Three weeks passed. 352 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,159 Speaker 5: We narrowed the list down to twenty three possibles. Tuesday, 353 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,080 December tenth, we were checking registrations with addresses in the 354 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,080 east end of the city. 355 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 6: It's a name on this one against Perry or Water 356 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,919 Straight back to drive. There's a car park and yeah, 357 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:55,879 let's try the bell again. Let me say, let's give 358 00:14:55,919 --> 00:15:00,200 the car look. Be pre sure to get care. Nobody home, 359 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:06,360 garage wide open cars. Isn't they qualify so far? You 360 00:15:06,399 --> 00:15:14,120 want to check the steering post, the registration check out? 361 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,519 All right, it's a minute. What do you got there? Here? 362 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,320 Found he's under the seat. Oh, maybe we're home. It's 363 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,759 a pair of guidels. Take a look. Yeah, both lens 364 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:25,639 is covered with tape. 365 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: You're in the poetry division of a Metropolitan Police Department 366 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,759 handwriting analysis. 367 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:49,799 Speaker 9: Now let's check it against the forged letter. The capital's 368 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,519 print evenly. The o's and the a's are clean. No, 369 00:15:53,679 --> 00:16:09,360 this isn't the typewriter we're looking for. Yeah, capitals print high, 370 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,600 asianos are solid, peace slanted. 371 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:12,799 Speaker 6: This is the. 372 00:16:12,759 --> 00:16:23,399 Speaker 10: One Tuesday, December tenth, two fifteen DM. 373 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,039 Speaker 5: A pair of goggles found in the automobile registered to 374 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,720 water our Perry were the same brand and style as 375 00:16:28,759 --> 00:16:30,879 the goggles used to black out the truck drivers and 376 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:32,399 all the previous hijackings. 377 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 6: Ben and I searched the car, but we failed to 378 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,000 come up with any additional physical evidence. 379 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 5: We left the garage, checked the house again to make 380 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,279 sure that there was nobody at home. Then we went 381 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,320 down the street close to the house to where we 382 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:46,519 parked our car. We put in a call to R 383 00:16:46,559 --> 00:16:48,919 and I and requested a make on water ar Perry. 384 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 6: He had no previous criminal records. 385 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,279 Speaker 5: A few minutes later, we spotted two women loaded with 386 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,759 grocery bags come down. 387 00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:57,519 Speaker 6: The street, go up the stairs at the Perry house 388 00:16:57,519 --> 00:16:58,960 and let themselves in with a key. 389 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:01,879 Speaker 5: Went up to the front door, rang the bell, and 390 00:17:01,919 --> 00:17:04,480 the younger of the two women answered, dark brown hair, 391 00:17:04,519 --> 00:17:07,440 blue eyes, about five foot six, twenty eight twenty nine 392 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:10,440 years old. We identified ourselves and she showed us into 393 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,839 the living room. She told us her name was Leona 394 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,480 Perry and that Walter Perry was her husband. They'd been 395 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,440 married eleven years, no children. We asked her where her 396 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,119 husband was, and she said he was out of town 397 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,839 on a business trip up north com outa Vista, California. 398 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:25,279 Speaker 6: We asked her what line of business he. 399 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 11: Was in, Well, right now, will Is Jewelry Sales me 400 00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:29,960 which himself to quite their traveling. 401 00:17:30,079 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 7: Your husband's blonde about five nine hundred and sixty pounds 402 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,279 that run. 403 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 8: Yes, that's right. 404 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,039 Speaker 6: How do you go up north Man to do well? 405 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:38,279 Speaker 8: I think he went up by train. I'm not sure I. 406 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 6: Have any idea how we might contact your husband of. 407 00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:43,079 Speaker 11: North No, I'm afraid I don't. He said he had 408 00:17:43,079 --> 00:17:45,119 a couple of business apartments in different towns in that 409 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,680 area up there. He didn't tell me where he'd be staying. 410 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:51,119 What's it about, sarge, mister routine check and miss Perry? 411 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 6: Is that a photograph of your husband over there at 412 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,880 the piano? Yes, one's he expected back to know. 413 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 8: Let's see, this is Tuesday, should home sometimes Thursday? 414 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 6: A minute ago? You said, right now, your husband's a 415 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,279 jewelry salesman. Is that his usual line of work? 416 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,599 Speaker 8: No, world is a truck driver. 417 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 6: He worked here in Los Angeles. 418 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 8: No, he groves for company up north in the Bay area, Oakland, Berkeley. 419 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:14,880 He had that job for ten years, almost from the 420 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,799 day we were married. 421 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,039 Speaker 11: And then last December he had a fight with the 422 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:20,799 boss and clips we moved down here to find work 423 00:18:20,839 --> 00:18:22,519 butt and just pretend to get placed. 424 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 6: How long has he been selling jewelry. 425 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,519 Speaker 11: Now it was about eight months. I'd say you're doing 426 00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:29,759 very good at it. You have more now than when 427 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:31,519 he's driving a truck, a lot of. 428 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 6: Money to Jeers. And it's just you and your husband 429 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:34,839 living here, is that right? 430 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 8: No, my mother lives with us too. We just got 431 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,240 back from doing the shopping. I guess she said, you're 432 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,119 putting the grocery do mom Ah. 433 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 6: I don't say. That's all right, ma'am. I think you 434 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,039 can give us the information we need. 435 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 11: Well, I'd like to know what this is about. I'd 436 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,519 appreciate it if you'd tell me. World isn't in any kind 437 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:51,920 of trouble? 438 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 7: Is he just a routine investigation, Miss Perry, doesn't necessarily 439 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,279 mean your husband's in law. 440 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,599 Speaker 8: I want to tell you right now my husband was involved 441 00:18:58,599 --> 00:19:01,160 in anything. I had trouble with the police. Is like 442 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,440 water have trouble with the police. 443 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 6: What is it? 444 00:19:02,759 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 8: Letter, It's nothing. Mabby's policemen want to talk to wald 445 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:06,839 and I just want to ask him a few questions 446 00:19:06,839 --> 00:19:09,960 and all. This is my mother, missus Burt, this is 447 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,640 it's Friday, mister Marr. 448 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 12: I told you, leone, I felt it all day. 449 00:19:13,559 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 8: Something's wrong. 450 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 12: Walter's done something. 451 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 8: There's don't decide to let it get him off. 452 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 6: Please. 453 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,079 Speaker 12: The officers told me. 454 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:19,799 Speaker 8: They want to talk to all episode. 455 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,599 Speaker 12: But forth he hasn't done anything. 456 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 6: Why do they want to talk to it routine judy, ma'am. 457 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:23,799 There's nothing to get excited about it. 458 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 12: I know what happened. I felt it all the time. 459 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 13: That funny job he has selling jewelry, going out at 460 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,559 all hours couldn't fool me. 461 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 12: I knew it wasn't right. What's he done? 462 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 9: Where he's relative? 463 00:19:32,759 --> 00:19:32,799 Speaker 6: Was? 464 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:33,559 Speaker 12: We got a right to know? 465 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 6: There's nothing we can tell you, definitely, ma'am. 466 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,279 Speaker 5: How about these odd working hours your husband has missus Perry, 467 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:39,079 what's the reason for that? 468 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,079 Speaker 6: Could you tell us? Why don't know? 469 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 12: Water works for himself. 470 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 8: He just has to make business contexts when he can. 471 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 6: That's all. 472 00:19:45,759 --> 00:19:48,079 Speaker 8: Sometimes it's late at night, sometimes early in the morning. 473 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,079 Speaker 12: Why don't you stay out of it? 474 00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 8: After all, it's our. 475 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 12: Business, wall is mine? Just mark my wordly wan to 476 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,839 find out about this. That husband yours has done something 477 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,839 and these policemen are after him. I knew it wasn't right. 478 00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:00,480 I felt it all along. Please take these jewels. Business 479 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:02,640 is big money. I should have left and taken you 480 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:03,319 with me that they. 481 00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:04,519 Speaker 9: Started Waters a truck driver. 482 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 12: It's all you'll ever be. It's where he should have stayed. 483 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,799 There are you always picking out Water? 484 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 6: Why? 485 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 13: Because I told you in the first place you never 486 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,960 should have married him. Eleven years ago I told you 487 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:13,000 I never should have come. 488 00:20:12,839 --> 00:20:13,799 Speaker 12: To stay with you. 489 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 13: You couldn't go and marry one of those nice boys 490 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,279 you met at school. It had to be Water Perry. Well, 491 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:19,200 maybe you'll see now trouble with the police. Now you'll 492 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,680 see what kind of a man you shut up for. 493 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 8: Sorry, I'll. 494 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,839 Speaker 6: Well, I'm afraid that isn't helping much. 495 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,839 Speaker 12: Miss burg was What is it that can help? 496 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:30,839 Speaker 9: Kids? 497 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:32,559 Speaker 12: Should try to tell him something, make it easy for him. 498 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 7: Never listened that gray sedan back in the garage? Man, 499 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,200 does anyone else drive it besides mister Perry? 500 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 6: Do you know? 501 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,559 Speaker 12: No, Leona doesn't drive. World is the only one who 502 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:39,960 runs it. 503 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 6: He drives it to all these business appointments. He has 504 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,200 it ought out, It's right? 505 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 12: How many times he doesn't take it so when he's 506 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:45,480 out of town. 507 00:20:46,759 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 6: You ever seen this pair of goggles before? Man? 508 00:20:49,759 --> 00:20:51,799 Speaker 12: No, I never hear What does it mean that tape 509 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:52,599 all over in front of him. 510 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:54,319 Speaker 6: How about your son and last friends? Do you ever 511 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,359 bring any of them here to the. 512 00:20:55,319 --> 00:20:57,559 Speaker 13: House since I've been staying here the last six months. 513 00:20:58,279 --> 00:20:59,920 Call him on the phone, He goes out, doesn't bring 514 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,880 anyone around though. 515 00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:02,279 Speaker 6: I'm just sick. 516 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,799 Speaker 7: Well, can you tell us anything about this jewelry business 517 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:05,799 mister Berry's working here. 518 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,079 Speaker 12: I don't even want to think about it. 519 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,039 Speaker 13: I raised four daughters, nice girls, every one of them, attractive, 520 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:12,480 plans for them, and you want them to be happy 521 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,519 and marry some nice fellow, have a nice, comfortable home. 522 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:15,279 You try to tell them. 523 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:17,079 Speaker 6: They never listen about the car man. 524 00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 13: You get to be seventeen and they know everything. My 525 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:21,279 girls could have married wealthy if they were smart. A 526 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:22,359 lot of other girls have done it. 527 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,799 Speaker 12: They had nice clothes, they got through business school, good 528 00:21:24,839 --> 00:21:26,640 home training. All us talk about love. 529 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 6: They're also smart. 530 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:31,559 Speaker 12: They know everything, and they know nothing. This is what happens. 531 00:21:31,799 --> 00:21:32,799 We wake up and find out. 532 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 8: Would you finish putting a girl through the way? 533 00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:37,759 Speaker 12: Move totally off anything you wild? Leona didn't mean to 534 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:39,799 upset you. Maybe things will be all right. 535 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:41,759 Speaker 6: And just a few more questions, Miss Verry, that's all. 536 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 8: Well, whatever it is, I know long hasn't done anything wrong. 537 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,599 He wouldn't do anything wrong. 538 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 12: It doesn't make sense. 539 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,319 Speaker 8: There's just no reason for it. 540 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:49,839 Speaker 12: I remember your father ly on us sixteen years. 541 00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 6: We were married. 542 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 12: One night he packed up and left me. There wasn't 543 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,799 any reason for that either, wasn't the move. 544 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 5: We continued questioning a whyfe and the mother in law 545 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:03,480 of the suspect, Walter Perry. From the wife, we got 546 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:06,039 the names and addresses of four close friends of Perry's 547 00:22:06,039 --> 00:22:07,880 who were supposed to be associates of his in the 548 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:08,799 jewelry business. 549 00:22:09,759 --> 00:22:10,839 Speaker 6: In the basement and in. 550 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 5: A loft over the garage, we found more than a 551 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,759 dozen cases of high grade scotch whiskey, cases of expensive furs, 552 00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:18,680 and other loot taken in the hijackings. 553 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 6: Missus Perry said her husband told Harry was storing his 554 00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:24,519 stuff for some friends. Was only a small portion of 555 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:24,880 the taake. 556 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 5: We called the office and got out a broadcast and 557 00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:30,000 an APB in the suspect and arranged for an immediate 558 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:33,039 stakeout on the Perry house. And then together with Matthews 559 00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:36,160 and Gonzales from Robbery Detail, we began checking out the 560 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,680 four close friends of the suspect. We could locate only 561 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,480 two of them, but those two paid off in the 562 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,839 basements and garages of their homes, we found. 563 00:22:43,599 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 6: Another portion of the loot, along with. 564 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 5: Evidence that showed that both men had taken active parts 565 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,200 in the hijackings. They were booked at the main jail 566 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,119 on suspicion of two to eleven PC. A full week 567 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,480 went by, the stakeout continued on the Perry house, still 568 00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:00,880 no sign of him. Saturday, December twentieth, four five pm 569 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,960 we checked back in at the office. 570 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 6: This thing shorte Dragon. I don't it would be nice 571 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,440 to wrap it up before Christmas. We'll then get it 572 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,119 all the way. Might working a couple of days off? No, 573 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,200 I don't know if I'm too interested, Joe or the 574 00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:14,559 days off. I mean, we've got visitors on the wear again. 575 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,519 They mean for the holidays. 576 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 7: Who's kind the same old bunch. My brother in law 577 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,920 and his wife and his kids and that little doll there. Well, 578 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,400 they were just leave you for three weeks worth. They 579 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:21,920 what's the deal? 580 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 6: Oh, brother in law got home finally notice from his 581 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,480 company he's been transferred out here. 582 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:27,759 Speaker 7: They're going to stay with us all through the holidays 583 00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:30,400 and then they'll start house hunt. How about man, he's 584 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,799 got a problem. He's got a new rug in the 585 00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:35,519 living room. How about twenty to one on it? Jill, 586 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:37,000 what's a little fox? 587 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 6: Teary? Oh? 588 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 7: Hi skipper? Anything before we check out? Be's the news 589 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,400 for you? Just talk to the Ventoria Sheriff's office. 590 00:23:43,519 --> 00:23:45,519 Speaker 6: We all my favorite. What do you mean? They grabbed 591 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,240 Walter Perry half an hour ago. 592 00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 5: Monday, December twenty second, So I suspect Walter Perry was 593 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:54,559 returned to Los Angeles. 594 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:56,599 Speaker 6: He was taken to the interrogation. 595 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 5: Room when Captain Diddyon then and I questioned him for 596 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,480 almost two hours. He was confronted with the evidence and 597 00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:03,759 testimony against him, and after another hour and a half 598 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:07,119 of interrogation, he broke. He gave us a full signed 599 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,839 statement describing his part in the campaign of hijackings. He 600 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,000 also gave us the names of everyone in the gang, 601 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,400 how they participated in to what extent he said. Most 602 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,759 of the property looted from the hijacked trucks was stored 603 00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:20,839 in a rented barn located at the north end of 604 00:24:20,839 --> 00:24:22,039 the San Fernando Valley. 605 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 6: The detail of men checked it and confirmed the information. 606 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 5: The suspect's wife, Leona, was notified of her husband's arrest. 607 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 6: One thirty five pm. We completed our interrogation. That's it, 608 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,160 very nice, goough. You asked me a lot of questions. 609 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,240 How about it? Can I ask you with? What's it? Well? 610 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,519 Why do you think I did it? Why I got 611 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:40,240 mixed up in this? Well? According to your statements, you 612 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:41,720 wanted the money a minute or you've been out to 613 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,640 my house? Haven't you? 614 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 7: You met my wife? And answer, I guess you met 615 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,480 a mother too. Yeah, well, then you've got it. Nobody 616 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,279 in the work would make me go for a hijack deal, 617 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,960 but she could. I remember the morning I admit up 618 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,480 my mind to do it her. I was out the 619 00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:56,519 kitchen here yapping at Leona in the other room, the 620 00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,440 same old roasting abous, the truck driver that was me 621 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:01,880 eleven years. The wife and I've been married, Her mother 622 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,440 lived with us, nine of them. Didn't get any better, 623 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,599 didn't get any worse, Just the same old yapping her 624 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,680 and her four girls. Why couldn't they listen to her? 625 00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:10,519 They were the best girls in the world. Why couldn't 626 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:11,279 they marry money? 627 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 6: Why don't it to be guys like truck drivers? Stupid 628 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:17,480 truck driver, same thing every day, always the same, nine 629 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,160 years of it day. So I wanted to get enough 630 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,680 money to rub in her face, enough to make a 631 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:25,200 choke on. You can hate somebody for that. I don't 632 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,519 know how many years they'll give me, but I'm going 633 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:27,000 to hate her. 634 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 9: Everyone remained jail wasn't ready to go. 635 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 6: I want to be a minute. Backs. Thank you all right, Gord? Yeah, uh, Sergean. 636 00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:40,440 My wife's been told her. She knows about it. She's 637 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,960 waiting outside in the hall with her mother, and you 638 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,920 can see him on the way. 639 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 14: Out, and a lot of thanks. Hi, honey, I'm sorry. 640 00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,240 Why did you do ask him when they're they're honey? 641 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 7: You heard as much of it as I did, nine 642 00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:59,240 years worth of I guess it finally got me sick. 643 00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:00,759 Speaker 6: She wanted you to have money, so I want have 644 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:04,440 to get it. You come and see me when you came. 645 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, I wasn't going to any jail to see you. 646 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:08,400 I knew it all along. I knew what you would 647 00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:09,960 the truth. She never should have married you. 648 00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 6: All right, pray, let's go. 649 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 9: Fine. 650 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,079 Speaker 6: How are you figuring? I don't know. How about some coffee? Okay? 651 00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:25,960 She is funny. 652 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 7: You see other people sweating that your troubles looked like nothing. 653 00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:31,880 I'm just thinking about what's that those in laws in 654 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,519 what about it? Yes, I hadn't got it half. 655 00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:45,279 Speaker 2: Then the story you have just heard was true, only 656 00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:47,519 the names were changed to protect the innocent. 657 00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:50,559 Speaker 4: On March fifth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 658 00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:53,480 eighty seven, City in County of Los Angeles, State of California. 659 00:26:53,640 --> 00:27:04,920 In a moment the results of that trial, Walter Richard 660 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,680 Perry was tried and convicted on several counts of robbery 661 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,920 in the first degree. He was sentenced to the state 662 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,799 penitentiary for the term prescribed by law. First degree robbery 663 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,240 is punishable by a term of five years to life. 664 00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:20,880 His accomplices received similar sentences, Ladies and gentlemen, As we know, 665 00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:24,400 thousands of people in Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Illinois have 666 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,400 been driven from their homes by floodwaters. 667 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: Many are being sheltered and fed with a Red Cross. 668 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:32,000 All Americans are urged to give through their local Red 669 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,599 Cross chapters. Your contribution of just a dollar will give 670 00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:40,039 you a feeling of justifiable pride. 671 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 4: You have just heard drag Meth a series of authentic 672 00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,920 cases from official filets technical advice comes from the office 673 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,279 of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department. 674 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,759 Speaker 6: Stay tuned for Counterspy Next time, NBC. 675 00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:12,559 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. I was wondering how Romero's in laws would 676 00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:17,880 come back into the tititle, and of course it turns 677 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,279 out it has to do with both Romero's in laws 678 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:27,880 and the perpetrators. I guess in some ways, Romero's reacting 679 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,720 to other people's family troubles the same way that people 680 00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:35,160 in the nineties did when they watched those sort of 681 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,759 daytime talk shows, or today when people watch reality TV 682 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,920 shows and they see people behaving so crazily and they're like, Okay, 683 00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:46,960 my family is messed up, but at least we're not 684 00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:52,799 that bad now. I do sympathize with the perpetrator a 685 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:58,000 little bit, but I don't like the idea of, particularly 686 00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:03,640 in a case like this, of someone driving someone else 687 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,319 to commit a crime, which is essentially what he did 688 00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:11,839 when he was saying, nobody could make me do this, 689 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,920 but my mother in law, she made me do it. 690 00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:21,279 Lots of people have overbearing, nagging mother in laws, and 691 00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:23,759 they also have wives who will put up with it 692 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:27,279 and not stick up for their husbands. But most of 693 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:31,880 these guys don't start hijacking liquor. There are all kinds 694 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,640 of ways to deal with this, and beginning on hijacking 695 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,799 trucks is a choice. Now, if this were Broadways my beat, 696 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,359 Danny Clover probably would have arrested the mother in law 697 00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:50,160 on principle as an accessory. But Dragnet's based more on 698 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,440 the real world. All right, Listener comments and feedback, and 699 00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:57,200 we just have a couple of ones from YouTube on 700 00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:01,400 the Big Late script. Wanda rits love dragging It and 701 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,880 Linda says more plays and any Philip Marlow, and the 702 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,920 answer is yes, We've been through every circulating Philip Marlow episode. 703 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:14,480 You can find the Philip Marlow feed wherever you get 704 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,680 your podcast from, and over on YouTube. We have a 705 00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:25,160 Philip Marlow playlist for you. 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We'll be back next Thursday with another episode 717 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:12,640 of Dragnet. Join us starting next Tuesday for the big story, 718 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,079 but join us back here tomorrow for yours truly, Johnny 719 00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:19,240 ed all Er, Where well. 720 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,119 Speaker 15: Tell me this, any of your clients policyholders have any 721 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,799 kind of trouble, accidents, anything like that over at Lake 722 00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:26,880 Mohabby Resort lately. 723 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,359 Speaker 16: Ah, So that's what's eating you, Oh Johnny. That flame 724 00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:34,160 was legitimate. It's in the home office for settlement. The 725 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,960 company will pay it and that'll be that what claim. 726 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:42,359 So just you stop worrying about it and forget what claim, Jake, No, sir, Johnny, 727 00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:45,119 there's not a single solitary thing for you to investigate 728 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:45,920 out here. 729 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 6: So just you forget it. 730 00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:51,559 Speaker 15: You know something, Jake, You just convinced me there is 731 00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:54,160 something to investigate it. So I'm grabbing the first plane 732 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,519 i can. 733 00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 16: Well, Johnny, I'd love to see you, but I what's home. 734 00:31:57,119 --> 00:31:59,559 Speaker 15: I'm charging my expense account to your company. 735 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,319 Speaker 1: You'll be with us then. In the meantime, send your 736 00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:09,240 comments to Box thirteen at Greatdetectives dot net, follow us 737 00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:14,440 on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us out on Instagram, Instagram, 738 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:19,079 dot com slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. This is 739 00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:21,519 your host, Adam Graham signing off.