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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Veterans Chronicles. I'm Greg Corumbus. Our guest in

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<v Speaker 1>this edition is Vincent Bill Purple. He is a US

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<v Speaker 1>Army Air Corps veteran of World War II, where he

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<v Speaker 1>flew B seventeen bombers for thirty five missions as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the three hundred and seventy ninth Bomb Group inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Mighty eighth Air Force. And mister Purple, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having a new oppensunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Where were you born and raised, Sir?

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<v Speaker 2>I was born in Nassaule, Nasachusetes.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have an interest in flying when you were

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<v Speaker 1>a child.

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<v Speaker 2>Not particularly until after the transition naturally with Japan December seventh.

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<v Speaker 2>We heard that on the radio, and that's when I

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<v Speaker 2>made a decision. I had graduated from high school where

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<v Speaker 2>I made a decision that I would enlist in the

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force if I could.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you did. Where did you go for training

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<v Speaker 1>and flight school?

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<v Speaker 2>What happened with that is because I was underage to

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<v Speaker 2>a degree, I ended up going to pre training in

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<v Speaker 2>Atlantic City. After that, I went to a training phase

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<v Speaker 2>for three months in Rochester, New York to be geared

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<v Speaker 2>on how to go on the training missions. Then from

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<v Speaker 2>there went to Nashville for classification. If I still was

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<v Speaker 2>capable of doing what specs were, then they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you qualified to be trained as I'm a Air Corps pilot.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore primary Flight School went from Lafayette, Louisiana for primary

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<v Speaker 2>flight school. Basic Flight school went with Little Rock, Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 2>and I graduated as a needed more later in the

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<v Speaker 2>complete conflict multi engine pilots, they sent me to Stuttgart

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<v Speaker 2>Archer Star and started to teach me. And I graduated

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<v Speaker 2>as a lieutenant at Stuttgart, second lieutenant. And that's where

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<v Speaker 2>my future with the military was because after that I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up in multi amensine training.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that where you wanted to be?

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<v Speaker 2>No, everybody wanted to be a fighter pilot. So the

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<v Speaker 2>answer was no. I expressed to you briefly a moment

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<v Speaker 2>ago that I ended up in Stuttgart and they converted

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<v Speaker 2>what we were all qualified to some degree to be

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<v Speaker 2>and then they take and said, okay, this unit will

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<v Speaker 2>now train multi engine aircraft. And that's what it happened

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<v Speaker 2>in March of nineteen forty three.

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<v Speaker 1>And how quickly did you adapt to the bomber.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, he had to qualify as a pilot.

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<v Speaker 2>So from training at Lafayette, Louisiana for two months, Stuttgart

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<v Speaker 2>rather Little Rock for two months, and the Yether One

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<v Speaker 2>for two months, I graduated from flight school in March

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<v Speaker 2>March of nineteen forty four as a second lieutenant age

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<v Speaker 2>at that point was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what happened, well, then we.

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<v Speaker 2>Were then assigned specific duties. I ended up going to Gulfport,

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi after the phase training in Seabring, Florida, when they

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<v Speaker 2>appointed a bomber crew for me as their captain and

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<v Speaker 2>their pilot, and we were trained in Gulfport, Mississippi on

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<v Speaker 2>multi engines, being a flying fortress to be arventine from

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<v Speaker 2>their simplicity, we did what we had to do in

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<v Speaker 2>multi engine training and that gets you into the more

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<v Speaker 2>or less phase training, which was in Seabring, Florida. Suddenly,

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<v Speaker 2>in September nineteen forty four, I was called one day

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<v Speaker 2>at operations and said, okay, get your crew, go to Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>get a brand new B seventeen, and go to Europe

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<v Speaker 2>and go to combat. That's a nice way to start today.

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever successful tall expense in extremes got to Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>got the brand new airplane, flew up the New Hampshire

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<v Speaker 2>and stayed there for the night, and then flew up

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<v Speaker 2>to a further export change of departure point in Canada,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we were there for three or four days,

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<v Speaker 2>and then suspect right after that we were told, well,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, tomorrow you will fly to Europe. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>the next day we did that huge snowstorm in front,

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<v Speaker 2>but we took off later on in twelve hours we

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<v Speaker 2>landed in England. And now I'm with the Eighth Air Force.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me a little bit about the men and your crew.

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<v Speaker 2>The crew was put together, They were more specific, very good,

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<v Speaker 2>all of them. I can speak nothing but the best

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<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do a lot more training once you got

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<v Speaker 1>to England or did they put you in service pretty quickly?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm going to say that that answer is easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever I landed in England, as I stated, they said

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<v Speaker 2>you were here in our lieutenant, you are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be assigned to the three hundred and seventy nine bomb

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<v Speaker 2>Group at kim Bolton, and so you and your co

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<v Speaker 2>pilot will be transferred to that base in Kimbolton and

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<v Speaker 2>different with your crew, and then we were signed within

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<v Speaker 2>four days went there and that's where I began my

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<v Speaker 2>combat tour.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that first mission?

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<v Speaker 2>Like nothing? Why because I flew the plane to be seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>a very talented in pilot. He was my bodyguard and

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<v Speaker 2>he take it all. So nothing really happened. You get up,

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<v Speaker 2>you flew to target number one, no target, no problem

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<v Speaker 2>is no bullets doesn't However, that was in October, about

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<v Speaker 2>the thirtieth of nineteen forty four. The next three days

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<v Speaker 2>there were nothing. But on the next day I was

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<v Speaker 2>then assigned to the squadron and flew and that was

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<v Speaker 2>entirely different than being on the first mission.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so tell me about that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess the thing to do that way is

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<v Speaker 2>we're sitting here as we are talking, and one not

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<v Speaker 2>that particular thing. I was appointed a pilot, I took

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<v Speaker 2>my crew. We ended up being in the fourth squadron.

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<v Speaker 2>Taken off that day and I flew in one of

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<v Speaker 2>the positions towards the tail end, and it was just well,

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<v Speaker 2>we did what we were doing. You looked out somebody

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<v Speaker 2>had some black flax stack in our chair or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I recall the ride for the training, it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of like a nice weekend. This one here

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to get into some of those more

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<v Speaker 1>difficult missions in a little bit. Tell me about the

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<v Speaker 1>preparation you did for a mission, from getting up that

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<v Speaker 1>morning to being briefed and getting in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you have to go back. They are told,

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<v Speaker 2>in other words, if we're going to go on a mission,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's say tomorrow or the next day, you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that the night before you went on a mission, generally,

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<v Speaker 2>either at the officer's club or wherever, you were told

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<v Speaker 2>that you were going to go to the target of

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<v Speaker 2>by name, And therefore, prepare your crew because they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to me and my coppither. You get your troops ready

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<v Speaker 2>and they will all be briefed and the next day

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<v Speaker 2>in the right level of time so that when the

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<v Speaker 2>next takeoff message time reach, you're prepared to go from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the enlisted personnel, of which there were ten or no,

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<v Speaker 2>there were eight on my crew, and there were four officers,

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<v Speaker 2>and they went out and prepared what they had to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure your guns are good, make sure even there

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah, make sure everything was good. We as

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<v Speaker 2>a mamba deer as the navigator and a pilot and

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<v Speaker 2>co pilot may be in the pilot went. Then in

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<v Speaker 2>the following day we did what we needed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>On the morning of the particular raid, it came out

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<v Speaker 2>that you would be we were known the night before

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<v Speaker 2>that report to briefing. You would go there generally about

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<v Speaker 2>seven o'clock in the morning, be briefed by Colonel Lyle

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<v Speaker 2>and Rust and what you're supposed to do, and therefore

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<v Speaker 2>you were scheduled released and everybody would instantly go to

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<v Speaker 2>their aircraft and do everything to what they were trained

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<v Speaker 2>to do time and time again. And that's all we

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<v Speaker 2>did at that point. They went everywhere, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know on the amount, you know that you had twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven gallons of gash, you could know you had ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand pounds of five hundred pounds whatever. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>briefing like you were asking to me. So if I

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<v Speaker 2>said that to you, you will now know what that's

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<v Speaker 2>all about. So that's what happened. We got briefed. Then

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<v Speaker 2>we would of course go to takeoff time. We generally

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<v Speaker 2>with the fly on Fortress be sevething took off every

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds at Kimbolton. We would put three squadrons out,

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<v Speaker 2>three squadrons of twelve each. That's thirty six aircraft, twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve and twelve, totally aware what the Eighth Air Force

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<v Speaker 2>was doing that day. In particular, the lead squadron is here,

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<v Speaker 2>the second was behind him thirty seconds and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't necessarily happen that everybody did that good be thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seconds behind them, But that's beside the point. So we

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<v Speaker 2>ended up and that's how that went. And therefore, now

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<v Speaker 2>when takeoff time came, and it generally would be between

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<v Speaker 2>some place between eight and nine or ten, depending on

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<v Speaker 2>our cloud conditions, dollar fog conditions, or whatever happened, and

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<v Speaker 2>that would be there, and that's how you got into

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<v Speaker 2>the bomber column for that portion of time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Vincent Bill Purple, a US Army Air Corps veteran

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<v Speaker 1>of World War Two. He served as a B seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>bomber pilot for thirty five missions in the European theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Still to come, we'll hear about several of mister Purple's

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<v Speaker 1>most harrowing missions, but up next, he explains the stunning

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<v Speaker 1>amount of fuel needed for bombing missions and what it

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<v Speaker 1>was like flying through enemy anti aircraft fire. I'm Greg

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<v Speaker 1>This is Veterans Chronicles. I'm Greg Corumba's. Our guest in

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<v Speaker 1>this edition is Vincent Bill Purple, who served as a

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<v Speaker 1>B seventeen bomber pilot in the US Army Air Corps

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<v Speaker 1>during World War II. We now pick up his story

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<v Speaker 1>as mister Purple explains the immense amount of fuel required

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<v Speaker 1>for bombing missions.

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<v Speaker 2>The ones I'm specific of, because there was certainly individuals

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<v Speaker 2>staluss the B seventeen, depending on you were going on

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<v Speaker 2>a short bombing run or a long bombing run, long

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<v Speaker 2>being from England to probably Berlin, a short one being

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<v Speaker 2>someplace over in France. But the maximum that my trouble

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<v Speaker 2>was was I had twenty four, twenty four or twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred gallons on the aircraft point of departure from

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<v Speaker 2>that type of thing. On February third, nineteen forty five,

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<v Speaker 2>the Air Force put one thousand bombs over Berlin. Figured

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<v Speaker 2>out arithmetically what was involved for supplies to fill that?

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<v Speaker 2>What did the American public do? One thousand planes with

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven hundred gallons of gas? That's a few gallons.

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<v Speaker 2>How did it get there? It got there because there

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<v Speaker 2>were five thousand vessels in the ocean between Boston and

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<v Speaker 2>Europe bringing them gas every day going into the direction

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<v Speaker 2>and all that which to me and I'll say it

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<v Speaker 2>now and I'll say it forever. The American public, the support.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing could could have been better or greater that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a little different times, but that's what that part was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here. Somebody took good care of me somehow by

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So as you approached the target on a

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, take the three hundred and seventy nine bomb group.

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<v Speaker 2>We put three squadrons up. That's thirty six Chapra twelve

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<v Speaker 2>is a squadron one not by name, it's just on this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation one two three, this one would assume it's necessary,

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<v Speaker 2>started a bomb run and it could be X number

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<v Speaker 2>of feet miles of whatever, generally it was miles, and

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<v Speaker 2>this would be behind and this would be behind it

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<v Speaker 2>when you got there. To be actual, the pilot and

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<v Speaker 2>co pilot sit there and listen to Glenn Miller or something,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's nothing more they can do that because you

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<v Speaker 2>one Nott and everyone turn the aircraft over to the

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<v Speaker 2>bombardier because he is now flying on the plane. The

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<v Speaker 2>northern bomb site tells it what to do. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here talking like I'm talking to you, and one

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<v Speaker 2>of them, oh, yeah, that's climb blah blah blah. And therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>and the bombardier was that was his job, and the

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen and told him where to go. That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But bombing ridge went from a minute to thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to forty minus depending what, depending how they took in

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<v Speaker 2>all that. So that's how it went.

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<v Speaker 1>You have said, sir, that your first ten missions and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm quoting, weren't bad and that the worst you faced

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<v Speaker 1>was anti aircraft fire from German eighty eight millimeter guns,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds pretty bad. What's it like flying through flak?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Flying through flag the eighty eight millimeter of the

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty five milow and nothing you're on

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<v Speaker 2>the target, you were petrified, terribly thought or not, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't damn thing you could do. My job was to

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<v Speaker 2>take and go point A to point B to point C,

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<v Speaker 2>drop the bombs, get out of there, to get back

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as you could, still maintaining the complete structure

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<v Speaker 2>of the aircraft, equipment and what not to protect yourself

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<v Speaker 2>against fighter attacks or stokers and whatnot. Mesierschmids from Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>How much resistance did you face from German fighter planes

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<v Speaker 1>early in the.

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<v Speaker 2>War, back in late forty three early forty four, the

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<v Speaker 2>preference of volume was totally German, Birtish and American coverage

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<v Speaker 2>was not that totally. American and British capability of production

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<v Speaker 2>was able to make a lot of more hirplanes at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, at one point in time when they produced

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<v Speaker 2>a P fifty one Mustang that allowed additional mileage for

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<v Speaker 2>us to be protected against German fighters. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know as I've answered the question, but that's what that's

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<v Speaker 2>all about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as time went on, we dominated the skies, that's

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<v Speaker 1>more and more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's correct, we dominated the guy certainly a part

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<v Speaker 2>of my career, except let's say in nineteen forty five

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<v Speaker 2>because my initials missions existed from October late October until April,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was about the fifth or seventh, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I had my thirty five plus an extra woman,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they said you can go home, not home

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<v Speaker 2>being home in this case, to a staging area to

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<v Speaker 2>be cleared to take and of the paperwork done to

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<v Speaker 2>get on a vessel to come back to the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>to get back to the United States, and then go

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<v Speaker 2>to training so you can train on B twenty nine's

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the other half of the world, Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Vincent Bill Purple. He's a US Army Air Corps

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<v Speaker 1>veteran of World War Two serving as a B seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>bomber pilot. In a moment you'll hear all about his

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<v Speaker 1>most harrowing missions. I'm Greg Corumbus, and this is Veterans Chronicles.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Veterans Chronicles. I'm Greg Corumbus. Our guest in

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<v Speaker 1>this edition is Bill Purple, a US Army Air Corps

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<v Speaker 1>veteran of World War Two. Mister Purple served as a

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<v Speaker 1>B seventeen bomber pilot for thirty five missions, but several

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<v Speaker 1>of them provided plenty of tense moments. That certainly includes

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<v Speaker 1>November fifth, nineteen forty four, when Purple says he was

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<v Speaker 1>nearly blown out of the scout after an engine caught fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, basically November fifth, that was at Frankfurt, Germany. In

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<v Speaker 2>respect to that, we had our aircraft damage to a

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<v Speaker 2>great degree, to such an extent that three of my

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<v Speaker 2>ten people bailed out over Germany and myself the co

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<v Speaker 2>pilot and my engineer. We struggled from it for a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of twenty five thousand feet leaving that. After

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<v Speaker 2>all that, because we were going to we weren't getting anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>We're on fire, and right number four engine, amongst other things,

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<v Speaker 2>we ended up. I made a decision and says, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll make a huge spiral to the right going to

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. And at that point in time, if you

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<v Speaker 2>visualize it, unless I'm wrong, the air going over the

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<v Speaker 2>wing from the back of the wing to the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>front of the wing where the engine was on fire,

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<v Speaker 2>the fire would be going out into space instead of

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<v Speaker 2>being blown into the aircraft. Well, it fire went out

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<v Speaker 2>at fifteen thousand feet down towards the ground when we

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<v Speaker 2>were getting there. So that's where I am. Ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>feet we got away with it, So.

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<v Speaker 1>You flew back with three engines, or the fire just

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<v Speaker 1>went out and you had all four.

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<v Speaker 2>It fire went out all by itself, but throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>effort that I truly believe, with the huge spiral. The

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<v Speaker 2>gas tank, of course is right behind the number four engine,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where it all happened. But it went out.

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<v Speaker 2>So the aircraft to be seventeen micro nestle vessel. Rather

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<v Speaker 2>it flies on three engines. It flies on two engines.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't want to keep too much when you

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<v Speaker 2>junk on board. If you went two engines.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever find out what happened to the three

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<v Speaker 1>who bailed out?

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<v Speaker 2>Several of them were more than several, but specifically they

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<v Speaker 2>were captured by the Germans to what extent and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe I've seen it written, but I can't remember this

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<v Speaker 2>exact point of the statistic. But some of them survived,

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<v Speaker 2>some died.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's discuss now, Christmas Eve, December twenty fourth, nineteen forty four,

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<v Speaker 1>your order to take off in the fog, and you

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<v Speaker 1>were very lucky to survive. Tell me what happened that.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, December twenty fourth, nineteen forty four. We were targeted

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a target and everything was there, and

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<v Speaker 2>as it progressed when the morning came twenty four being

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<v Speaker 2>one day before Christmas, when the target got there, what

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<v Speaker 2>it was we were all all parked in our parking

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<v Speaker 2>spaces on the perferal parts of the airport because of

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<v Speaker 2>the intense fog that was there, heavy heavy, heavy fogs.

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<v Speaker 2>And then eventually to day nothing was going on. We

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<v Speaker 2>could constantly had red flares blorn in the sky and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you could see this says don't take off yet

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<v Speaker 2>type of thing. And then eventually we did get a clearance.

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<v Speaker 2>Well the clearance, can you believe you couldn't see much

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<v Speaker 2>more than from me to you. That slight exaggeration, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was extremely, extremely bad. But we were number eight

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<v Speaker 2>I think of my squadron from my base at Kimball

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<v Speaker 2>from the for this mission, and several of them ended

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<v Speaker 2>up getting properly taken off into spots of fog and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>Extreme beyond that while we were going down we were

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<v Speaker 2>number eight. We were one in a proper location and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>And today's day fit for this day. I'm your pilot,

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<v Speaker 2>your bicope. Now I'll put you over your your my

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<v Speaker 2>cop pilot. But you took and reached under on your

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<v Speaker 2>holding stick and pulled this way, which made the aircraft shovel. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it were done. I was comfortable in our gratitude of flight.

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<v Speaker 2>This one went this way, and suddenly the tail and

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<v Speaker 2>the front end number two engine and propeller took a

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<v Speaker 2>telephone pole off six feet off the ground. Telephone pole

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<v Speaker 2>was about eight inches in diameter. Nobody in the world

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<v Speaker 2>should still be here talking to you with As results

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<v Speaker 2>of that, we got away with it. We flew back.

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<v Speaker 2>The colonel was releasing the flight equipment, and one not says, well,

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<v Speaker 2>put a hold on because the last one crashed. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I did crash, but we kept flying. So we kept flying.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're ordered with gasoline, we're holded with bombs. We

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<v Speaker 2>got everything, and we can't get back on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>because the fog is that bad. So we spent considerable

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<v Speaker 2>hours in the sky burning up gasoline on three engines

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<v Speaker 2>to finish. Beyond that, then we made a decision that

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<v Speaker 2>we should take it, take the bombs and drop them

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<v Speaker 2>in the North Sea, because if we can't, what are

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<v Speaker 2>we going to do with them. We did that, and

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<v Speaker 2>eventually as we came back about four or five in

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<v Speaker 2>the afternoon, we spotted an airfield that was open. We

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<v Speaker 2>landed there and that was on a Saturday morning, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe you, and everything was good. We left the aircraft there.

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<v Speaker 2>They were very nice to us. They set us up

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<v Speaker 2>the sleeping the floor and the hangars. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>fun sleeping on the concrete floor and a hangar. After

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<v Speaker 2>almost got shot down, but that's okay. So we ended up.

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<v Speaker 2>They put two new northeas put the one new engine

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<v Speaker 2>in and our Monday we flew back to my base.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's another part of that story. As time went by,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll project it into probably let's just show it

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<v Speaker 2>was three, four or five years ago. A German fighter

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<v Speaker 2>pilot in Germany today's German fighter pilot wrote a book

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<v Speaker 2>about the three something later. But he wrote a book

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<v Speaker 2>about the raid on the day before Christmas. To this day,

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<v Speaker 2>my only remaining crew member is in uh Minnesota, and

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<v Speaker 2>I call him up at ten o'clock in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>and he's there and I say, get the wine out.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have a drink. And I do still do

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<v Speaker 2>that every year. He and I are the only two

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<v Speaker 2>of my crew is still there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm impressed that you were able to get back on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground safely. After all, that.

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<v Speaker 2>BE seventeen is a pretty fancy airplane.

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<v Speaker 1>You're also a good pilot. Though, let's be honest, if

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<v Speaker 1>they let you take off in that weather. Was there

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<v Speaker 1>any time that they said the weather's too bad, don't

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<v Speaker 1>go today.

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<v Speaker 2>If it did, I don't really remember, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>that happened. They've canceled missions because of bad weather. In Kimball,

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<v Speaker 2>we before we would fly in our mission even under

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<v Speaker 2>those rules, we visited five hours of training west on

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean to see what kind of storms are coming

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<v Speaker 2>in to be hit at England in five seven hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were many interpreted structures that says, don't go

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<v Speaker 2>because when you get back there will be no airports.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't find them in one. So again the huge judgment,

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence and structure of that whole program. I'm a little prejudiced,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, there's still another story that we need

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, because there was another time where you

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<v Speaker 1>were actually hit by shrapnel while you were flying. What

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<v Speaker 1>happened that day.

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<v Speaker 2>Wherever we were towards the very end of my life

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<v Speaker 2>there with England, we were on a raid and on

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<v Speaker 2>the raid was I only had several more missions to fly.

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<v Speaker 2>Long story short, the situation was, we're on a target run.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything fine, We could see considerable eighty eight milibate of

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<v Speaker 2>flat explosions and whatnot. And once you're on a bomb

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<v Speaker 2>run with the bombardier, you don't do anything. He does it.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're flying ran up a tube call it that

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<v Speaker 2>of explosive eighty eight millimeters. And as we're going, we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting closer and closer and closer. And about the time

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<v Speaker 2>wherever that person is over there, the one that exploded

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<v Speaker 2>there was underneath the nose of the aircraft where the

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<v Speaker 2>vombard deer and the vombed deer and the navigator work.

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<v Speaker 2>The piece of shrapnel came right between them, came through

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<v Speaker 2>the front part of the base where my right foot was,

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<v Speaker 2>came through the flying pedal, took the top of my

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<v Speaker 2>boodle off, didn't cut the toe and hit me right

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<v Speaker 2>here and likewise. But I had a metal vest on.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore I didn't get any metal purple cross because I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't fly it flee any blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Another close call. Somebody's looking out for you. Shell is yes, sir, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Interestingly, despite all of those close calls where you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't injured. The only slight injury you suffered didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>happen in the air. You cut yourself getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>the plane one day, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, getting out of a plane one day, and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever my Air Force ring and I tackle. I got

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<v Speaker 2>out of the window that was near the navigator and

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<v Speaker 2>one and on and when I hung up piece of

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<v Speaker 2>metal cart right under that ring and cut it open

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. But that's not too serious.

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<v Speaker 1>After thirty five missions, I think I would take that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Eighth Air Force suffered immense losses throughout World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>How fortunate do you feel to have survived thirty five missions?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, our first troops survived twenty five and they had

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<v Speaker 2>mess in the world to speak of. Don't quote me

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<v Speaker 2>that way, but minus school compared to what the total

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<v Speaker 2>resources were for the Eighth Air Force or the particular

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<v Speaker 2>the world in general. So it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, where were you when the war ended? And how

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear the news? Well you just arrived in Boston, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, okay, there was a reunion. I have now

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<v Speaker 2>been promoted to certain other things, and I was in

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<v Speaker 2>my base in in Michigan and we were having a

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<v Speaker 2>real having a celebration on that day for the celebration

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<v Speaker 2>of the Japanese calling it the Day. And there were

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people in Detroit at this operation, not Detroit,

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<v Speaker 2>but nearby where it was. And the lady there was

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<v Speaker 2>the host and she was whatever we'll call it, the

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<v Speaker 2>leader of the present elevation there celebration, and they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have somebody to take amail. So somebody says, hey, there's

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<v Speaker 2>Bill over there, give them to him. So I participate

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<v Speaker 2>on Pearl Harbor Day with my friend whoever she was.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I read that you trained bomber pilots who later went

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<v Speaker 1>to Korea. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, correct, Sure, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>about that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how do you train somebody whatever? They're doing the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing that you went through as a youngster. But

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<v Speaker 2>the bomber pilots that I flew, what we train is

477
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:53.799
<v Speaker 2>quality of whatever, so that they could help with the

478
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>transfer of all the scrap information and take it to

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00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Kingman Arizona and whatnot. And so we were training them

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<v Speaker 2>to fly to B seventeen to be twenty four, to

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<v Speaker 2>be twenty five and so forth. And we had a

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<v Speaker 2>letder to fly on ourselves, but we taught them because

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<v Speaker 2>of the photos and you've probably seen them as well.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas of over one thousand B seventeen's and B twenty

485
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<v Speaker 2>fours there that had been phoned back from Europe to

486
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<v Speaker 2>there and then they were going to Kingdom Arizona for scrip.

487
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<v Speaker 2>So that's what we did for that's what I personally

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<v Speaker 2>did from nineteen forty five of May until June of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty six. Then I retired from the Air Force

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<v Speaker 2>that way. But then, as I expressed earlier, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>I spent time with the National Guard in Westfield, Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>for three years. And it says enough is enough. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the part of that story. But maybe you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to ask it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the rest of that story, so go.

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<v Speaker 2>Ahead, okay. In nineteen fifty one I left the military,

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<v Speaker 2>and as such, and until about nineteen seventy something, Colonel

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<v Speaker 2>Isle called me and he was flying for one of

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<v Speaker 2>the commercial airlines at that point. He says to me,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, we should form a reunion group because we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have anything of that nature. So we got to

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about it, make a closer to that. We then

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<v Speaker 2>put it together so we formed a three seventy ninety

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<v Speaker 2>Bomb Group Association and all that, and then for about

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen or twenty years we always held the reunions at

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<v Speaker 2>different locations in the United s States. Specifically, though pretty

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<v Speaker 2>neat at first, one that we did put together was

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<v Speaker 2>the one with Franz Stigler, the German fighter pilot. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Brown was with the V nineteen forty three B

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen Squadron combination in World War Two with B seventeen's

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<v Speaker 2>in my base, his base, and it shows a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>photo over B seventeen flying of such all shot to

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<v Speaker 2>help or proper word, and here's a fighter of h

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<v Speaker 2>here's a German fighter plane flying up above, and this

515
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<v Speaker 2>one's so damaged. They had actually built several people out,

516
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<v Speaker 2>several good art, but this fighter plane said, well, he

517
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<v Speaker 2>elected not to take and shoulder down, which he could

518
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<v Speaker 2>easily have done. In fact, he scored it him part

519
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<v Speaker 2>way back to England and then that was it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Brown, in nineteen nine, eighty eighty five, close enough,

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<v Speaker 2>he called up and said that we're going to form

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<v Speaker 2>this organization, which we did. Then he said, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to bring a German fighter pilot to my reunion,

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, what long story short, he had found

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<v Speaker 2>Franz Stigler, Charlie Brown had that allowed him to live

526
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<v Speaker 2>and looked out for for years to find me. Finally

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<v Speaker 2>found him in outside of North north Well, Washington, gunsmoke

528
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and so I said, well, it's okay, then

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<v Speaker 2>read to gentleman, and so we adopted the German fighter

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<v Speaker 2>pilot into the three seventy nine bomb group and from

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<v Speaker 2>that point we had him on that reunion and then

532
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<v Speaker 2>we quit. They both got lost from time ten years ago.

533
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<v Speaker 2>They both died, but we had him with us and

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<v Speaker 2>he had found Charlie Brown in part of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's there. Friends, Stick and Charlie Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>You what are you most proud of from your service?

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<v Speaker 2>My answer to that is I did my job, and

538
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<v Speaker 2>everything that I did was not in a negative viewpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>I look at it. I'm glad I did this, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad I could help and I personally if you know

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<v Speaker 2>some of my history beyond and you're doing good there,

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way I look at it. I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 2>be here just to be able to say this, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what our world was like at that point. In time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, sir, it's been a great honor for me to

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<v Speaker 1>speak with you today. I thank you for your time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I especially thank you for your service to our country.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent Bill Purple is a US Army Air Corps veteran

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<v Speaker 1>of World War Two, during which he flew B seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>bombers on thirty five missions as part of the three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy ninth Bomb Group inside the Mighty Eighth

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force. I'm Greg Corumbus and this is Veterans Chronicles. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Greg Corumbus, and thanks for listening to Veterans Chronicles,

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