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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. And the American

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<v Speaker 1>way is we stand up. We stand up to evil.

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<v Speaker 1>We stand up to people who don't care about the

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<v Speaker 1>lives of our children, our wives, anybody in our family,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in the community. And people better understand real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's going on with the left. They don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>They are pro criminal to the point where, hey, your child,

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<v Speaker 1>they're an acceptable casualty. They're part of an acceptable casualty rate.

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<v Speaker 1>So what the left has done is it has carved

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<v Speaker 1>out this this big, gaping hole in Colorado criminal law.

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<v Speaker 1>What's left of it after the Left got done right.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's carved out this big hole so that some

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<v Speaker 1>of the most dangerous offenders, killers, kidnappers, the most dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>offenders can just get out of jail, just be released,

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<v Speaker 1>not have to even go to trial. And it's something

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<v Speaker 1>I was completely unaware of until this shocking story out

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<v Speaker 1>of Aurora that we've been talking about so much over

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<v Speaker 1>it the last few days where you have this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on video, trying to kidnap this girl from an

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<v Speaker 1>elementary school, a convicted sex offender, by the way, also

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be transsexual. But that's not at the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of this story. And so what happens now now? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are already grave concerns about the recently elected Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>DA in Rapo County, and we've talked about some of

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<v Speaker 1>those before. But now this individual isn't even going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to stand trial. Why because as I understand, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're waiting for the DA to comment, which the DA

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't seem interested in doing. Right, you think if

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<v Speaker 1>you could defend yourself on something really important to the community,

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<v Speaker 1>that you would do that and then probably not appear

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<v Speaker 1>if you couldn't defend yourself in any case, in any case,

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<v Speaker 1>So the Left has inserted in this law this provision that, yeah, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can, if you can quote prove that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not mentally competent to stand trial and that it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>going to get any better, you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>quote restorable, Well, then guess what, they can't even put

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<v Speaker 1>you on trial, and they got to let you go

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<v Speaker 1>so that this is obviously an immediate threat to public

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<v Speaker 1>safety at the highest level. You're going to learn about

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<v Speaker 1>some more of these stories today on the show. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to learn about You're going to learn about a

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<v Speaker 1>recent case down in the Spring is really good prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was one of these where the defense that

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<v Speaker 1>they're able to quote prove that this person's mentally incompetent

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<v Speaker 1>and not restorable, gets off killing a woman at a

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<v Speaker 1>gas station. I mean, we got to be aware of

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<v Speaker 1>this and we got to find a way to fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to spend some real time on that

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<v Speaker 1>today and Michael Doherty really happy to see this. We've

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<v Speaker 1>had him on the show before. He's been great. The

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<v Speaker 1>DA Up and Boulder Democrat is going to join us

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<v Speaker 1>at five oh six to talk about a piece he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote to along with Michael. Another great DA happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Republican DA and my good friend John Callner

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<v Speaker 1>now my law partner when John was This piece was

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<v Speaker 1>Albert and Lincoln and it's talking in part about this big, gaping,

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous hole. So Michael Daugherty will talk to us at

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<v Speaker 1>five oh six about that. So we got that to

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<v Speaker 1>do today. And this is one of those topics. You

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<v Speaker 1>know how this works on this show. This is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those topics where it's a cause we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't enough. We need to find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>change it. And one of the things I'm most proud

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<v Speaker 1>of of our show over the decades on air is

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<v Speaker 1>we can point to a lot of real concrete changes

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<v Speaker 1>that have been made because the listeners of this show

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<v Speaker 1>rallied around and once they heard about it all on area.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a great launching pad get the information into

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado's bloodstream. But once people hear about it, they say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't right. This has to change. And so this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those And we've got a great track

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<v Speaker 1>record of actually making concrete change, and this is one

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<v Speaker 1>we need to edit that list three or three seven, one,

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<v Speaker 1>the KUSA version of this story. Before I get to that, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to assure you I'm okay. You were on air,

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<v Speaker 1>so you were not part of this concern. Earlier, I

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock today at the station. So I'm walking in and

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, man, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel pretty good, but I'm I'm all covered in

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<v Speaker 1>what appeared to at least one person to be blood.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea it wasn't blood. Obviously, I feel great.

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<v Speaker 1>It was red ink from a red pen. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>look at my hands, right, And this is after an

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<v Speaker 1>hour of scrubbing. Oh wow, So my clothes on, my clothes, everything,

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<v Speaker 1>so it looked like d been shot and I was

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<v Speaker 1>completely unaware of it. So meeting got canceled and I

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<v Speaker 1>drive home and get all these new clothes on, try

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<v Speaker 1>to scrub everything else. I'm sitting on a towel now

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<v Speaker 1>in my car because it's all over my car. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I learned, and we need to put it

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<v Speaker 1>on the bar Clint Eastwood, Right, A man's got to

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<v Speaker 1>know his limitations. I am not meant to work on cars.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the way I got to the point where it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like I'd been shot is I'm driving in, get

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<v Speaker 1>the little light in the car, air pressure low in

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<v Speaker 1>the tire, right, and I'm driving down to the mountains.

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<v Speaker 1>I came in from the trial prep cabin to see

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter has a film that's being shown over at

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<v Speaker 1>Landmark tonight. She's part of a group that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to have short film shown. So drive down for that

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<v Speaker 1>low tire pressure. So what are you gonna do? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna go to the gas station and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay your two bucks and you're gonna pump some air

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<v Speaker 1>in your tires. Fine, all's finding good. Then I'm driving

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<v Speaker 1>to my other meeting in Westminster and the alert comes

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<v Speaker 1>on that there's too much air in the tires. So

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<v Speaker 1>what are you going to do? Like a responsible citizen,

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to take out a red pen and you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to stick it into that little tire nozzle and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna let some air out. Well, apparently, unbeknownst to me,

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<v Speaker 1>as I stuck the pen into the tire to let

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<v Speaker 1>the air out, it shot all the ink from the

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<v Speaker 1>pen all over me, you know, like a spray can.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was completely unaware of it because all I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about is my trial. So that's how I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up walking into the building looking like I had blood

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<v Speaker 1>all over me. So's wild. Yeah, it may take weeks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it may take weeks to get this stuff off me.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Mark Marshall Zellinger's version of this story, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to get maybe you can give me some

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<v Speaker 1>advice on this. I would like to get some advice

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<v Speaker 1>on how to better figure out what the tire pressure

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<v Speaker 1>actually is when I'm filling up instead of guessing.

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<v Speaker 3>The person accused of trying to grab a fifth grader

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<v Speaker 3>from a Cherry Creek school playground last year is incompetent

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<v Speaker 3>to stand trial, and for the fourth time in seven years,

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<v Speaker 3>that person will see the charges dropped because of incompetency,

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<v Speaker 3>though they're being transferred to a mental health facility. Kids

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<v Speaker 3>at black Forest Hills Elementary School yelled stranger danger. Solomon

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<v Speaker 3>Gallaghan is accused of trying to grab a fifth grader

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<v Speaker 3>at recess in April twenty twenty four, almost one year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Gallaghan was found incompetent to stand trial. Nine News investigates

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<v Speaker 3>looked into Gallaghan's criminal history and found felony charges dropped

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<v Speaker 3>twice in twenty twenty one and again in twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>To stand trial.

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<v Speaker 3>A spokesman for the Arapaho County District Attorney's Office, which

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<v Speaker 3>will be dropping the charges, tells us Gallagan is not

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<v Speaker 3>being released to the public, but is being released to

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<v Speaker 3>a mental health facility.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the story went on from there. Sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>they needed to add to that story. Yeah, so anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's our current understanding of the story. And then it

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<v Speaker 1>gets complicated from there, right because released to a mental

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<v Speaker 1>health facility for how long? Because one of the problems

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<v Speaker 1>with this law that the Left put in place is

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<v Speaker 1>is people with certain court findings. As I understand the law,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I've read this law, it's particularly complex, probably

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<v Speaker 1>by design, it appears, and it's it's I think my

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<v Speaker 1>understanding from our conversation with George yesterday that there are

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<v Speaker 1>some circumstances where people are entitled to simply be released

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<v Speaker 1>obvious dangers, but as as long as their defense lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>can prove up this in competence and not restorable, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a scenario where they just get out. So yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>thing has to be changed. Three oh three someone three

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<v Speaker 1>eight two five five. The number takes DA N five

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<v Speaker 1>seven seven three nine. So we'll follow up on that,

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<v Speaker 1>and again Michael Doherty, the Democrat DA from Boulder, will

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<v Speaker 1>join us at five oh six. Been on the show

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<v Speaker 1>before always a great guest, be good to have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had written a piece, as I mentioned, that

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<v Speaker 1>addressed this before this crime even happens. So three or

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<v Speaker 1>three someone three eight two five five. Also I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about President Trump now President britt Yum on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News going after President Trump? What's that all about?

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Dankaplas Show.

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<v Speaker 4>And now back to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Sammy Hagar, Oh wow, wonderful song read just for your Dan.

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<v Speaker 5>I really appreciate it's your favorite color. It is not,

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<v Speaker 5>but thank you. That's the thing though, any other color

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<v Speaker 5>pen let's say blue or black, different role and it's

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<v Speaker 5>on You're like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what happened to you?

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<v Speaker 4>But it's red, Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you okay? Right then people are thinking, holy coow,

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<v Speaker 1>they finally got you. Yeah, man, how about this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Government and politics are top concerned for Coloraden's according to

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<v Speaker 1>annual survey. Government corruption and political division are the top

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<v Speaker 1>concerns among Coloraden's according to Colorado Health Fund Nation's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five Pulse Survey for its sixth annual survey conducted

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<v Speaker 1>April blot to my May Bla. They polled two, three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty three Colorados from across the political and

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<v Speaker 1>socioeconomic spectrum, and then it goes into some of the demos.

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<v Speaker 6>On that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty two percent identified government and politics as their top concern,

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty one percent increase from last year's poll. Cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living, which topped the list in twenty four, dropped

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<v Speaker 1>by six and seven points. So all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>concern about government and politics is the top concern for people,

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<v Speaker 1>above cost of living, above crime, above everything. None of

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<v Speaker 1>us have to be a political scientist to figure that

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<v Speaker 1>one out. Right, it ain't working. People can see that

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat controlled Colorado. It ain't working. Now when you get

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<v Speaker 1>into the guts of the poll, they claim that more

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<v Speaker 1>people are upset with Republicans and Democrats, But that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make any sense to the top line, right, because Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>control everything. I mean, I think probably the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>left is when we go to the bathroom, and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>soon they'll control that too. But they control everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>the people of Colorado say, even more than prices in crime,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these are awesome people overall doing really good

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<v Speaker 1>other than the unborn, care about all those things. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about a PC he has published today

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<v Speaker 1>abolished spending limits for political parties, brit You unhappy with

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump. Let's listen to a little bit of that.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, it's clear from what the President himself has said,

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<v Speaker 1>For months and he was being DeLong under.

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<v Speaker 7>The impression that Putin had obviously given him, that Putin

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<v Speaker 7>Putin didn't want to end the war where we are.

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<v Speaker 7>He had more conquest in mind, and perhaps I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but one of the reasons for the popularity of

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump, in the success of him is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a straight shooter, very very often, much much more

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump acknowledges himself right now that that day but

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<v Speaker 1>about that, et cetera. But it brings back the question

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<v Speaker 1>I raised a few months ago, which is, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, evil unfortunately is sometimes smart, and Putin is smart,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think Putin played it that way knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>for Putin. So was it just a calculation that he

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<v Speaker 1>Was it Putin wanting to make it clear that he

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<v Speaker 1>just wasn't going to allow Trump to waltz in and

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<v Speaker 1>get this solved like Trump has solved so many other things.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was, you can be sure he saw this

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<v Speaker 1>impressed Trump just stepping up and saying, yeah, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>misread this guy, and now he's going to pay a

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<v Speaker 1>price for it. Steven Arvada, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome than see.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a costco membership by Jens.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was talking to my dentist about that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not, and I need to get one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because they've got a solution for your air pressure problem,

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<v Speaker 2>because they all all of them have the little machine

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<v Speaker 2>your car needs, which is usually inside the driver door,

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<v Speaker 8>On the left side of your your seat.

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<v Speaker 2>It tells you what the pressure is on the tires

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<v Speaker 2>and you just set that there and you plug it

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<v Speaker 2>into the tires and it'll raise ower it to meet

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<v Speaker 1>That is a beautiful thing. Can you remember what it's called?

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<v Speaker 2>Just an air pressure station. It's over by the tire place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a station. It's not something I can actually buy there,

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<v Speaker 1>but Costco's air pressure station. To it beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually really don't need a membership.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well that's good to know too. That's okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that, Steve, Thank you very much, which goes to

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<v Speaker 1>one of the better text we've had and maybe forever

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<v Speaker 1>quit lying.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>We know the die packet exploded on you. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is a great tad a life of crime, Dad, is it? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably aren't Those things normally black, so I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>lucky it was a red pen. And if you just

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<v Speaker 1>joined us. I've talked about this over the years. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good at some things, not good at other things. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not good at working on my car. I got my

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<v Speaker 1>tires over inflated because they'd been underinflated. So I took

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<v Speaker 1>to let air out, and then that just caused all

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<v Speaker 1>all over me with great force, and our good friend

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Steve Dan. Thanks. Now the state's going to outlaw

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<v Speaker 1>red pace it's pretty no, no, they'll probably mandate red pens.

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<v Speaker 1>And then everybody sprayed me with them. Wow, that's a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You should run for governor.

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<v Speaker 5>It's funny you say that because he said the very

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I you know what, I think the better argument

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<v Speaker 1>is him.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the better argument is the two of you

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<v Speaker 1>Him, he'd be a great governor. He'd be a great governor.

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<v Speaker 4>The lawyer, the law man, I said, yeah, come on,

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<v Speaker 4>think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, you're the brand end. You are good. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you are really good. I know, so hey, quick

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<v Speaker 1>preview Democrat DA from Boulder, Michael Doherty, you'll join us

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<v Speaker 1>at five oh six, uh, talking about this really big,

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous hole that the leftist has put in Colorado law

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<v Speaker 1>that it allow some people to escape ever facing charges

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<v Speaker 1>for very very serious crimes, including killing, if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they can convince the court that they're not only mentally

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<v Speaker 1>that Michael wrote about a long time ago. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote about this and other big problems in our

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<v Speaker 1>So this is real and this puts you and your

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<v Speaker 1>be great to have Michael Doherty at five oh six

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about that. Dick wadhams in in the five

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock hour as well. Three or three seven, one, three

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 9>This has been about y'all. This has been about y'all,

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<v Speaker 9>because their messaging was always the same. Democrats have been

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<v Speaker 9>angry at what this man tried to do the last time,

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<v Speaker 9>they've been angry this time. So I am with much

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<v Speaker 9>due respect to you both, I believe you are pointing

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<v Speaker 9>the finger at the wrong person when you say democrats, are.

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<v Speaker 5>You delineating between voters and elected official? Yes, sah, you're saying.

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<v Speaker 9>Because I agree voters are very impassioned.

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<v Speaker 1>She's whoopies all worked up because how Bama and Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Human say, Hey, Democrats need to get tougher. Wow, it

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<v Speaker 1>is so much fun to watch this. But it's what

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<v Speaker 1>I predicted long long long before election day, right, which

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<v Speaker 1>not completely go away, but start to reveal itself, which

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<v Speaker 1>would mean it would then disintegrate. And that's exactly what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what's critical. Because Trump winning, thank you Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>not enough in and of itself. People need to see

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<v Speaker 1>what the left really is because trust me, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat for years. So many Democrats have no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, how radical and secular and anti American and

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<v Speaker 1>anti faith any of the people who control the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Party are today, and so they really need to see

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<v Speaker 1>who these people truly are. So it's beautiful to see

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<v Speaker 1>all of this infighting unfolding. Hey, lot's going on. Michael Doherty,

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<v Speaker 1>DA from Boulder, will join us. Democrat will join us

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<v Speaker 1>at five oh six to talk about this big problem

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<v Speaker 1>we have in Colorado law where some folks who commit

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<v Speaker 1>obviously commit heinous crimes can then just avoid ever being

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<v Speaker 1>they should, about how our criminal justice system is dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with menal Io. People don't blame the judges, blame the

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<v Speaker 1>lawmakers and the laws they have passed that tie the

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<v Speaker 1>go to vic and beautiful Brighton, Colorado. You're on the

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Kapla show.

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<v Speaker 8>Welcome, Thank you, Dan, I love your show. And Ryan's

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<v Speaker 8>also thank you. I have a tip with regard to

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<v Speaker 8>letting air out of your tire. Yeah, the saying it

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<v Speaker 8>looks like a pin head that you put your pen on. Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>what you do is you take like a corner of

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<v Speaker 8>your thumbnail, okay, or your fingernail and just push on that, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Okay. That's good advice, man, And my day would

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, no more inksclatters, to know?

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<v Speaker 2>Do that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, thank you, Vic. I really appreciate that. And Vic's

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<v Speaker 1>burst of air that then caused all of the red

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<v Speaker 1>ink to just fly all over me. But the worst

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<v Speaker 1>part is I didn't even know what happened. So then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking into a meeting at the station here and

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<v Speaker 1>they're all like, who's calling nine? One one? So three

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<v Speaker 1>or three? Someone? Three eight two? If I have the number?

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<v Speaker 1>Text or says Dan, did you have the red pen?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you were correcting John keller House. I'm sure who

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<v Speaker 1>ever said that it was more than tongue in cheek

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<v Speaker 1>because they know it's quite the opposite. John is And

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<v Speaker 1>you know John elected da for Repo and Douglass before

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<v Speaker 1>this the GOP nominee for Attorney General, who got the

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<v Speaker 1>top vote getter in the state. But John is now

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<v Speaker 1>my law partner in our managing partner, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>quite the opposite. He is truly just a brilliant cat.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a man the stuff, the stuff he comes

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<v Speaker 1>up with is I think tremendous.

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<v Speaker 5>The person who sent that his initials are George Brockler.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he think that his is that his number head

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<v Speaker 1>thought for sure, but it sounds like his cenciamre and

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<v Speaker 1>George truly one of the funniest people ever in public

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<v Speaker 1>life in Colorado. Dan, in the future, you can flip

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<v Speaker 1>the valve cover over and push it with that instead

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<v Speaker 1>of using a pen. Believe me, I have learned my lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll never use that pen again. Dan. You can always

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<v Speaker 1>stop at discount tires. Wow, that's a good idea. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>always check your tire pressure for free. That from our

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<v Speaker 1>friend Alexa. And you know, the tire pressure thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going off on that rant. Let me get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the topics. The tire pressure thing really is critical

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, and that's one reason I was so

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about getting it right. You would think I would

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<v Speaker 1>have had a tool to do that. But the truth

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<v Speaker 1>is I normally have this car in for service so

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<v Speaker 1>oft like half the time I've owned it that that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it always gets worked out there. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know from the catastrophic injury work I do in my

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<v Speaker 1>law practice that tire pressure is key to a vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>operating properly on the roadway. So that's why I was

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<v Speaker 1>so obsessed with it, and I paid the price with

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<v Speaker 1>an ink bath. All right, let's get back to some

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<v Speaker 1>of the hot stuff of the day here. Three h

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<v Speaker 1>three someone three eight two five five takes d an

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<v Speaker 1>five seven seven three nine. Dick Wadhams joins us in

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<v Speaker 1>the five o'clock hours, well hopefully earlier, to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>his piece today on abolishing spending limits for political parties.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea till I read the piece that

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<v Speaker 1>the laws have now been worked out in such a

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<v Speaker 1>way that it really kind of neuters the impact of

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<v Speaker 1>political parties, which I don't think is a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>for Republicans. And then just a little preview of Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Doherty who's going to join us at five h six.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Democrat DA from Boulder. We always enjoy having

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<v Speaker 1>them on the show to talk about this issue of

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, are you telling me Colorado law now

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<v Speaker 1>allows really dangerous criminals who obviously committed the crimes to

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<v Speaker 1>just walk out if they can show they're not competent,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're never going to be competent. I mean, that

477
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<v Speaker 1>is such a gaping hole in public safety. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to be fixed. George Brockler with a comment one that yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 6>A super troubling one. And keep in mind that before

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<v Speaker 6>this person went to try to go kidnap this young boy,

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<v Speaker 6>I was already a registered sex offender. Now that can

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<v Speaker 6>only happen if you've been convicted of a prior sex offense.

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<v Speaker 6>So somehow this person navigated the legal waters in order

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<v Speaker 6>to become a registered sex defender, but now is incompetent

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<v Speaker 6>to stand trial. Now, there was a change in the

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<v Speaker 6>law as recently as I think it was twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 6>And remember there's just the Dems in charge who books

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<v Speaker 6>this getting through and they change the law significantly so

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<v Speaker 6>that I'll give you an example on all second class

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<v Speaker 6>misdemeanors and below, and that includes some pretty serious misdemeanors,

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<v Speaker 6>some domestic violence, some lower level child abuse, thataped all

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<v Speaker 6>this other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>If you get a report back.

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<v Speaker 6>From the state hospital it says that this person is incompetent,

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<v Speaker 6>the DA must immediately dismiss the case again to that

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<v Speaker 6>person and just send them right back.

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<v Speaker 1>At that's just insane. And George went on from there

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<v Speaker 1>and just true insanity, right, And this is a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>segue to Dick Wantums because I didn't mean it the

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<v Speaker 1>way that sounded Dick, but perfect segue to Dick Watums

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<v Speaker 1>Because Okay, at what point, obviously that the left in

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado has openly now sided with criminals and against innocent people,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't even try to hide it. So at

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<v Speaker 1>what point do the voters start to push back on that,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's no sign that they're ready to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing, my friend?

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<v Speaker 10>Hey Dan, what an amazing story about your red shirt?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. Yeah, I sympathize with you. A man's

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<v Speaker 1>got to know his limitations, right, Yes, there are some

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<v Speaker 1>things I'm actually good at. Yeah, but fixing cars for whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that I haven't tried. I mean, from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried to fix.

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<v Speaker 10>Cars, you and me both, Like my first car.

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<v Speaker 1>Costs seventy five dollars. I wanted to fix a car,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have the money to take it to the shop.

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<v Speaker 1>My brain doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 10>Then, no, no, I sympathize with you. I'm the same way.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank God for mechanics and places that do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, I'm even worried about putting the washer fluid in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, am I going to put it in the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong spot?

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<v Speaker 10>Pressure is very important, and man, it is something that

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<v Speaker 10>even you and I can deal with. But but people

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<v Speaker 10>forget how important that is, especially in really cold weather

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<v Speaker 10>and really hot weather.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's you. Yeah, and I know it from the

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<v Speaker 1>law practice, you know, because you work with all these

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<v Speaker 1>eng ears and all these big pre crashes. The entire

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<v Speaker 1>pressure matters a lot. It's interesting you get so many

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<v Speaker 1>Californians to come here, right, and and they just think,

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<v Speaker 1>if I've got a four wheel drive and snow tires,

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<v Speaker 1>i can go up the side of a building. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and no, your tire's got to be right

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. So I was well intentioned, poor execution.

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<v Speaker 10>I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I will never again use a pen And then what

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<v Speaker 1>I did later was I used the eraser side of

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<v Speaker 1>a pencil. Ah, yeah, okay, but it's still imprecise. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it is is. So that's why you were here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about it that pressure I ran, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So I wish you'd been here at three o'clock when

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<v Speaker 1>I came in from the meeting because I was totally

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<v Speaker 1>app and the eyes got widen, the man you okay,

544
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<v Speaker 1>do you need to call somebody?

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<v Speaker 10>I thought it would be a startling thing to see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>and you were going into a court room.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that No?

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<v Speaker 1>I was coming in here for a meeting at the stage.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh okay o yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and some wise guys said they finally got you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I love what Steve Reams said. Oh, Steve knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve knows, Steve would be a great candidate for governor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to run for something.

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<v Speaker 10>He did a great job filling in for you while

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<v Speaker 10>you were gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I keep hearing that from people.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah he did.

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<v Speaker 1>When are you going to do that again?

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<v Speaker 10>I will do it. That was the week that you

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<v Speaker 10>were gone. I was just tied up that week.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so yeah, no, Steve has been great. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was a listener suggestion because I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>miss all this time for trials, right, and we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to add to our tremendous roster. Yeah. Yeah, he's been tremendous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got Tom Homan on that ain't easy.

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<v Speaker 10>Not at all. Yeah, he knows Tom, I think doesn't

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<v Speaker 10>he doesn't. Don't they know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like they be buddies. Yeah. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't have time to talk about it now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'd like to get your take. Is I see

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<v Speaker 1>where Phil Wiser Now his latest crusade is against ice

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<v Speaker 1>agents wearing masks. Yes, so have to that sad, So

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<v Speaker 1>all these Antifa nuts out there, you know, just just

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<v Speaker 1>ready to do all of their arm to all these people.

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<v Speaker 1>Know where are your masks?

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<v Speaker 2>Where?

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<v Speaker 1>Two or three? And just the irony of Democrats saying

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<v Speaker 1>don't wear masks.

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<v Speaker 10>It seems like it is a daily story that he

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<v Speaker 10>is signing on to another lawsuit against the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Really amazing part of the campaign. Yeah, yeah, the campaign

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<v Speaker 1>to nowhere. Dick Wadham's with us here on the Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Caplas Ship.

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<v Speaker 4>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Doherty, Democrat Y and Boulder joins us at five

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<v Speaker 1>oh six. Always a great guest talking about a real

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<v Speaker 1>danger lurking within Colorado law right now, that needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be fixed. And then the broader issue of come on,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got so many people right to You've got so

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<v Speaker 1>many people in the criminal justice system, we have mental illnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they pose this danger, they pose this danger

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<v Speaker 1>to the public, right and yet the system isn't set

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<v Speaker 1>up to get the care they need to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to protect the public. And it just insane stuff literally.

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<v Speaker 1>So and you like Michael Doherty, I think I do.

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<v Speaker 10>I think he's been a great DA Now that's probably

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<v Speaker 10>the kiss of death for him and the Democratic yeah, primary,

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<v Speaker 10>but I think he's outstanding. I don't ever, don't know

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<v Speaker 10>everything about him, but I think he's been a really

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<v Speaker 10>solid day.

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<v Speaker 1>And running against Jenni Griswall.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah who, I just who. I don't I'm not going

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<v Speaker 10>to say despise her, but I think she's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but horrible with a ton of money, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>in a party that you know, it just talks about

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<v Speaker 1>how enlightened they are, but you know, where's the governor

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<v Speaker 1>of color where's the female governor, where's the female center?

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<v Speaker 1>All that stuff. I mean, there's such phonies when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to this Holier than thou Dei stuff, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up with three boring old white guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the top job.

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<v Speaker 10>She all she talks about in her campaign is how

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<v Speaker 10>much she hates Trump. She doesn't talk about any of

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<v Speaker 10>the issues. I mean, Doherty would actually be an attorney general.

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<v Speaker 10>I think she would just use the office for her

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<v Speaker 10>anti Trump crusade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I mean, think of the irony hair. You

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody whose mission was to to deprive Colorado voters

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<v Speaker 1>of the chance to vote for Trump. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a Trump fan.

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<v Speaker 10>But deprive voters even wrong about that?

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<v Speaker 1>When is the US Supreme Court nine zero? They're not

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<v Speaker 1>nine zero on ordering ice cream? Oh?

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<v Speaker 10>I found that very repulsive, the nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero against Jenna griss I agree. Yeah, wow, and she

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<v Speaker 1>has a very good shot to be attorney general and no.

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<v Speaker 2>Doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Unfortunately, Dan and Ryan, could you tell traffic folks

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<v Speaker 1>that Waterton Canyon Road is closed? Wow? Yeah? Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan called Tom Martino next time. Good advice for just

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<v Speaker 1>about anything, right, Yeah, So tell us political parties. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize until I read your piece. They just

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<v Speaker 1>can't do much money wise for candidates.

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<v Speaker 10>No, and this goes back to nineteen seventy four with

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<v Speaker 10>the post Watergate to reforms, and parties have kind of

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<v Speaker 10>lived with it. But the Supreme Court now will consider

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<v Speaker 10>a lawsuit that was started by the National Republican Senatorial

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<v Speaker 10>Campaign Committee and at that time Senator JD. Vance that

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<v Speaker 10>was filed before he got elected Vice president, and it

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<v Speaker 10>would basically remove the limits from political parties and how

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<v Speaker 10>much they can spend on their candidates. And so it's

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<v Speaker 10>been around, but it goes. I think the Court will

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<v Speaker 10>agree with this. I think they'll pull the limits down Dan.

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<v Speaker 10>But more importantly, I think this is the first step

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<v Speaker 10>towards eliminating all limits on all contributions and all expenditures

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<v Speaker 10>for candidates and political parties. One of the reasons, of

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<v Speaker 10>the biggest reason in fact that we have all this

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<v Speaker 10>money going into the shadowy super PACs is that the

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<v Speaker 10>parties and the candidates can't raise money because of these limits. Now,

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<v Speaker 10>they won't go away if we remove the limits on them.

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<v Speaker 10>But I will tell you the money will gravitate back

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<v Speaker 10>towards parties and candidates and they are accountable. The trouble

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<v Speaker 10>with super packs they always sound like Citizens for Better

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<v Speaker 10>America or you know, Americans for puppies and kittens and

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<v Speaker 10>that kind of name. People have no idea who they are,

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<v Speaker 10>what they do, and who finances them. When people hear

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<v Speaker 10>an ad from the Democratic Republican Party, they say they

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<v Speaker 10>know what that is, or or Dan Capalists for governor

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<v Speaker 10>or whatever. I mean, they know what that is. And

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<v Speaker 10>so I have always felt, and this is the first

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<v Speaker 10>step the Supreme Court case, we need to get rid

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<v Speaker 10>of all these limits on candidates and political parties in

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<v Speaker 10>this day and age of the Internet and social media,

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<v Speaker 10>instantaneous and full disclosure of all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And isn't that where the Supreme Court is clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, free speech, you got to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to support who you want the way you want within

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<v Speaker 1>the law and ub but you can't be anonymous. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see any constitutional right people have to be anonymous

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<v Speaker 1>in the candidates they support. And so just get it

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<v Speaker 1>all up there.

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<v Speaker 10>Just just make immediate, full and complete disclosure. And these

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<v Speaker 10>limits they treat voters like their dah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>And voters do not need to be caudled.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, And it's the opposite right, and it's one reason

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Supremes are about to do exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>you said. Now, maybe it's a two step dance, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're about to do it is because there was this

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<v Speaker 1>concern before, which doesn't justify on constitutional stuff, but this

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<v Speaker 1>this valid concern before that. Wait a second, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to have the big money people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>picking everybody and all this and that. But now, as

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<v Speaker 1>you pointed out, with the Internet and the ability of

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<v Speaker 1>small donors to gather together and fund like Trump's campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>massive levels, Supreme Court's not going to have that concern

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<v Speaker 1>anymore because small donors can get behind a candidate and

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<v Speaker 1>make the difference.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, it's interesting too. The University of Denver, they had

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<v Speaker 10>a policy committee that did a deep dive in the

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<v Speaker 10>campaign finance reform in twenty thirteen. They spend months looking

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<v Speaker 10>at it. University of Denver is not exactly a conservative

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<v Speaker 10>bashi this. This committee that looked into this was not

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<v Speaker 10>populated by a bunch of conservative Republicans. Their conclusion was

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<v Speaker 10>that the state of Colorado should take away all limits

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<v Speaker 10>on contribution of contributions on political parties and candidates. And

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<v Speaker 10>it didn't get near the attention it should have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's it's a end of academic conversation for

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<v Speaker 1>most people, right right, But you've lived it. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you've lived it when in Big Raiss you've lived it

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<v Speaker 1>as party care. So on the ground, and we'll run

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<v Speaker 1>out of time here quick. On the ground. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of difference does it make for the Colorado GOP if

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<v Speaker 1>these limits didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 10>Well in a good year, Republicans did raise a lot

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<v Speaker 10>more money and spend it directly on behalf of candidates.

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<v Speaker 10>Right now, a US Senate candidate in Colorado, a Republican

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<v Speaker 10>can only have about six hundred thousand spent on it

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<v Speaker 10>by the Colorado Party. Now that's now in the past, Dan,

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<v Speaker 10>I will tell you that that's happened, but it could.

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<v Speaker 10>It should be more. Should it should be unlimited, should

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<v Speaker 10>be unlimited, and welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>Continue that conversation. Now we are going to take Michael Doherty,

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat d from Boulder at five six to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>something he wrote on before. He wrote on before this

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<v Speaker 1>big gaping hole in Colorado law that puts you and

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<v Speaker 1>your family in more danger and how do we fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Daugherty at five oh six, you're at Dan Caplis

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<v Speaker 1>and Dick Wadhams on the Dan Capler show
