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we are talking about Benjamin Franklin's frothing at the mouth racism.
If there's one thing Benjamin Franklin was tired of seeing
in America, it was people who weren't white. And he said,
I'm tired of all these non whites coming to America,
specifically Germans. That's right, Benjamin Franklin did not think Germans
were white people in seventeen fifty one. As far as
Franklin was concerned, the only people who were truly white
at the time were the English, and then the Saxons,
who were The English were descended from everyone else, a
dirty something. He used the word swarthy and tawny a lot.
He said a lot of things that were interesting in
the letter. He'll said a lot of things that were
eyebrow raising in the letter, but it actually went on
to be one of the most impactful pieces of writing
from Franklin's career, insomuch that it helped inspire Charles Darwin
and his thoughts on evolution. It's actually a pretty funny,
interesting letter, and we're going to get into it today.
Welcome to soft core History. What is up? Welcome to
softcore History. I am your host for the week, Rob Fox.
I am joined as always by Dan Rejester and Gaby Montemayor.
I'm just always joined by her because she's back. Can
you believe it? Two weeks in a row.
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it's like a guy that picks up soccer.
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or should you?
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really actually?
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conference in college football, I get it. I was losing
my mom this weekend in Fort Worth. It died over
two mediocre teams.
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probably broader than you.
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no bra.
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It just would look different. I think it would be. Yeah,
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out wearing one of my T shirts and some old shorts,
so she just still has a round because she has
something of the laundry and calf socks.
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Like college, I actually did not like that. It's just
kind of girls were skinny fat the whole time. Nobody
lifted and.
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It was really heavy makeup and then make up to class.
The clothes were like business casual club wear like. It
was a lot of like blazers and like short pencil
skirt like it was like a lot of weird ship.
Speaker 4: The chicks wear out to college.
Speaker 3: Now, what's it like to dress and not want to
be looked at? Like it's like when this generation dress
is so ugly, Like they just don't have like they
just wear giant things. Girls aren't wearing makeup. They're wearing
like fucking star stickers on their face.
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Speaker 1: As Dan would say, let's a callback.
Speaker 3: Oh god, is it just about good girl.
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his wife and I was just like, just call her
good girl in bed.
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works like some guys like, oh, you've been a bad girl.
It's like, no, I'm a good girl. Like I like
good girl more.
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statue vibes to call back to last week.
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doesn't really have that vibes, and the priest is a
good girl.
Speaker 3: Girl, you're a good girl.
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you're totally right, and the other half was not about it.
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can't just be like when you're bringing when someone brings
you something like if if you like, if I brought
you a water, you like good girl, Like that would
piss me off.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also I'm in bed. Don't want to be respected.
Speaker 3: Adored is really what i'man.
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that'll due enjoy it.
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pig that pig, Yeah, worn't better.
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wanted to make sure he stayed in a relationship like
that doesn't keep it doesn't keep the relationship going. But
it's just it's just less likely to end over one
tiny thing like that, where it's like a casual dating situation.
You'll never see that person again, but you can at
least feign a joke.
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for bits in the bedroom.
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I'd probably just get it.
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ten god damn minutes. Sorry about that. At least you
do the intro now where we're like, this is what
we're talking about eventually. Yeah, that was a good addition
to that.
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Although if you find us on YouTube, it doesn't have
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There is a number. There is a number.
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immune system. Yeah, it's just me, so I'll just watch
it anyway. Let's get into this week's topic. Did you
know that Benjamin Franklin was a racist? I could have guessed,
even for the time, even especially for the time time,
maybe especially for the time. He wasn't a big fan
of non whites. More specifically, he was not a big
fan of non white immigrants.
Speaker 5: Listen, I'm not gonna let you tarnish the name of
Ben Franklin on our podcast. Why is that because he's
the logo of the seventy six ers, is he? Yeah, dude,
there's a logo of just Benny franks hoopin he's just
dribbling the ball. It's one of our better logos.
Speaker 1: How do you not have that logo? A man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she'd been in the center court.
Speaker 1: But yeah, oh that's fucking sweet.
Speaker 2: He's got handles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fucking fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah he dude, he's like pushing.
Speaker 1: Off the deten is like flowing in the windy Fuck,
you're stupid.
Speaker 4: Whatever logo you have now it's just the seventy six Yeah,
it's dumb.
Speaker 1: And then you go back to Ben Franklin hoop should
have hooped yeah, it should be Ben Franklin. It might
might be like mixing a little metaphor here, but it
should be Ben Franklin doing a Vince Carter over King George.
Speaker 5: That is still today. My favorite tweet though, is Terry
Rogier finding out that Ben Lawden was tall, and he
was just like, man should have hooped.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ben Litte was like six five sixty six.
Speaker 2: He's six six, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, damn dude, that's udo.
Speaker 2: He's like a black bone.
Speaker 1: Is Lebron? No? Lebron's six eight right?
Speaker 2: Six nine?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Okay, a lot of those guys five.
Speaker 5: Some of those guys lie about their height, like Kevin
Durant's seven feet tall and he he he lied so.
Speaker 1: He didn't have to play center. Yeah, that's yeah. But anyway,
Ben Franklin did not like non white immigrants, and he
was really annoyed, uh before the American Revolution. About twenty
years before the American Revolution is when he started talking
about this about the colonies becoming less white. He started
writing about it. He was annoyed that the colonies were
becoming less white to himrate replacement theory, but.
Speaker 3: With what populations from from where? Otherwise Ireland and Italy, Germans, German.
Speaker 2: He was like, the Germans are non.
Speaker 3: White at this the whitest white, the whitest people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ben Franklin did not consider Germans white.
Speaker 5: I knew that's where the left, the left term was
coming Germany. But yeah, he didn't like non whites.
Speaker 3: So what you're saying is Ben Franklin is responsible for
the Holocaust.
Speaker 5: Yes, well indirectly, because I don't really see the connection there.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, there's always a for every reaction,
there's an opposite and equal.
Speaker 1: It's like how you if you're mean to a younger sibling,
that younger sibling will turn around be mean to another
younger sibling. Ben Franklin mean to the Germans, Germans turnaround
mean to the Jews. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Ben Franklin did the whole cup.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe that's just been Franklin's plan all along. Yeah,
he didn't want to like get his hands dirty with
the Jewish people.
Speaker 2: It was like the Germans game.
Speaker 4: Hitler was just a pawn, played the long game.
Speaker 3: That historian was right.
Speaker 1: Franklin did not consider the Germans white. He actually did
not consider anyone other than British people. And uh, he
probably tossed Scots in there too. I don't think you
can toss the certainly.
Speaker 5: Not the I dude, the Scots, I don't even consider
the same racist man.
Speaker 3: How but the Dutch they count to, don't they?
Speaker 1: Nope? He said the Dutch were not Uh, it was
just the Saxons, which is a part of Germany. But
it was obviously cool part Anglo Saxon, right, you know,
wasp white Anglo Saxon, Protestant Saxon settled England, so I
guess he counted like, oh yeah, the people who stuck
stay behind. They still they count as white too, because.
Speaker 5: It's really anyone that doesn't speak England. The Scots do
not speak English, Jude, if.
Speaker 1: I if you go to Scotland, I mean even a
British person, like, I'm sure you experienced that in England,
Like how many times did you hear a person speaking English?
And we're like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I would whisper, I'd be like I need subtitles for
the conversation. I don't know what. Especially when you went
up north, I was like, what the fuck are these
people saying?
Speaker 1: This is what I am of the opinion that no
one speaks English better than Americans.
Speaker 3: Because it's like I think part of it is because
it's we have created the most media so everyone can
understand ours. Because it's like kind of clear.
Speaker 1: We could go to any English speaking country and get
in any accent, Hi y'all or whatever, Hey go to
what the fact? You tag the fact you buddy, but
everyone would understand it, versus if any of them, some well.
Speaker 3: Guy from Manchester trying to order in like West Virginia
at a restaurant could nobody would know what they he wanted.
Speaker 4: And it's not just the English, like Irish too.
Speaker 3: I mean there's the Scots, Scottish or the Welsh forget.
Speaker 2: It, yeah, no, not the same species as us.
Speaker 1: And I think I've met a lot of Brits who
clean it up like they have two speaking right.
Speaker 3: Simon Cots, which is hardcore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he cleans it up here, yes, but if
he's back with his.
Speaker 3: Mites, yeah very much. It's like who is this? He's
like this act. I was like, I'm starting to not
understand you. He's like Mike, dude, can do are saying?
Speaker 1: It's like if anyone in your family could speak Spanish
and you started talking Spanish to each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be cool for good, but just my parents
just so they could fight in front of us.
Speaker 1: That's actually awesome.
Speaker 3: Though, if only they loved each other, they might have
taught us Spanish.
Speaker 1: Darn it, they didn't fight long enough for you to
pick it up. Uh no, so I believe my My
working title for this episode is can Germans use the
N word? I think it's gonna catch yes, am.
Speaker 2: I, yeah, we can workshop it.
Speaker 3: But here's why.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Ten reasons why Germans can.
Speaker 2: Just go twenty fourteen Internet? Yeah, yeah, so it has.
Speaker 3: To be an odd number.
Speaker 5: Nine reasons right, it's always gonna be like an eye
catching number.
Speaker 1: Because it's funny that the brain's like, what do you mean?
There's seventeen reasons yeah, oh good.
Speaker 2: It will always just do better than twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not fifteen statistically.
Speaker 1: No, not fit. Yeah, can't be divisible number too clean? Yeah,
eighteen reasons why yeah, thirteen reasons why Suicide's pretty sweet?
That's my title for that episode. My sister is a
principal at a grade school and she was like, that
show is horrible. Yeah, it like encouraged like kids were like,
oh glamorous, Sure do you get a lot of attention
for killing yourself.
Speaker 3: I mean, to be fair, I wish I could go
to my funeral like the only I like wanted to
be like a party, and I just like I just
want every want to sit around talking about how much
they love me and how pretty I was and how
fun I were.
Speaker 1: That's the opposite, though I don't think it will be
would you rather have young? How young?
Speaker 2: Would you rather have everyone show up and talk shit?
Or nobody show up?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Everyone show up and talk shit.
Speaker 1: I guess because at least you because.
Speaker 3: At least I mattered, and like they did show up, you.
Speaker 4: Know, they cared, like they cared enough to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they cared enough to come, which.
Speaker 1: At this point I feel like, well man, it's so fucked.
Eventually I've noticed this is like common sense. But with
my parents now I've noticed slifically, Like eventually, you know,
like when you're in your twenties, the big social event
is weddings. Boy, once you get into your sixties, his funeral.
Speaker 3: My parents, although they are married to other people, end
up going to funerals about once a year or once
every other year of people that they knew in college.
My dad, they get the funerals together.
Speaker 1: My dad is like, oh, yeah, we just got back
from X y Z's funeral.
Speaker 3: All the time, So and Say's husband died, So and
Say's wife died.
Speaker 5: Oh, I bet they could like rekindle maybe a past
relationship there though.
Speaker 3: There was this guy that went to college with my
parents who is now a Rod Stewart impersonator and that's
how he makes his whole living. He looks just like
Rod Stewart, and it's like.
Speaker 2: The hopital venture.
Speaker 5: I don't know it is he's if he's still doing it, Yeah,
he's I think I want to see real Rod Stewart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want a slightly younger impersonator who's a little
hungrier for it, right, right, So, but at every funeral,
it's like there will be somebody that's like Rod Stewart
is at this funeral, and my mom's like, oh, that's
just Kevin who.
Speaker 1: Could possibly believe at a funeral in San Antonio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's making the rounds around the north side of
San Antonio.
Speaker 2: It sounds like something Bill Mary would do.
Speaker 1: It does it does, but not Rods.
Speaker 3: It would be a cooler for less cool all right.
Speaker 1: So in seventeen fifty one, Franklin circulated a manuscript amongst
his friends that was eventually published in seventeen fifty five,
but he kind of like sent the draft out in
seventeen fifty one. He wrote it in fifty one. Who
was called Observations concerning the Increase of mankind Peopling of Countries,
et cetera.
Speaker 3: So Benfrein's then made a burn book.
Speaker 1: Uh, he was just kind of tweet tweet threading. Yeah,
actually it reads like a tweet thread.
Speaker 3: It's literally specific people. It was just like, I don't
like this.
Speaker 1: About thoughts and stuff. Yeah, like they don't.
Speaker 3: Tip, Yeah, they smell weird.
Speaker 1: These these people are known to be poor tippers, but
they're an industrious and strong and excellent at playing cornerback.
Speaker 2: Here are all my gripes with the German people.
Speaker 3: I like that he's organized in his hate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tweet thread just coming through.
Speaker 1: He's just he is just kind of shooting off thoughts
about immigration and banging. So Franklin had a lot of
fun thoughts on race, in particular in the final two
paragraphs of this thing, so that he really only gets
into the race stuff like super duper in the end, almost.
Speaker 4: As an addendum, I guess you could say so.
Speaker 1: He writes, which leads me to add one remark that
the number of purely white people in the world is
proportionally very small. All Africa is black or tawny, Asia,
chiefly tawny America exclusive of the newcomers wholly, so tawny,
tawny equals brown.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're tawny, I guess.
Speaker 1: And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians, and Swedes
are generally of what we call a swarthy complexion.
Speaker 3: Swarthy m hm. I thought swarthy was like kind of
fat and bloated.
Speaker 1: No, Swarthy's actually like tall and dark, which I don't
think the Swedes.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't count the Swedes in that at all.
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, Ben Franklin does not think Swedes
are white.
Speaker 3: Their is their own thing, Swedes.
Speaker 4: Okay, the Swedish aren't white.
Speaker 1: There to Benjamin Franklin.
Speaker 3: I think if you're blonde, you're white.
Speaker 1: Not to Ben Franklin. In fact, blonde if anything will
get you out, Yeah, at that point, you're like in albino.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I would be racist against blondes, but
I just don't think a blonde man is appropriate.
Speaker 1: I see a man with inappropriate.
Speaker 3: I just see a man with blonde eyebrows, and I'm just.
Speaker 1: Like, that's a woman's color.
Speaker 3: It's just gross to me.
Speaker 4: You don't you couldn't d Yeah, no.
Speaker 3: No, like it's like really like growing dirty blonde. But
it's like, yeah, grow up, Like why is your hair
like baby colored?
Speaker 1: You would get absolutely drilled by Chris Hamsworth.
Speaker 3: He's not like blonde.
Speaker 2: He is blonde.
Speaker 3: He's like dirty blonde. He doesn't have like blonde eye.
Speaker 5: Last you're sounding like Ben Franklin right now, just cherry
picking hair color right now.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, sorry, I'm a patriot. Uh I feel like
he has Oh no.
Speaker 1: This guy is too blonde.
Speaker 4: You're not fucking Brad Pitt from Meet Joe Black.
Speaker 3: He's too blond, really blonde.
Speaker 1: You're not fucking that guy.
Speaker 3: That's probably See how he has dark groots.
Speaker 1: That's the worst he's looked.
Speaker 3: See how he has dark You're fuckable if you have
dark roots. If you're bad and you have dark roots,
that's fine.
Speaker 1: Hemsworth, I don't think it's dark roots. But either way,
you would fuck Hemsworth from Thor with his daughters.
Speaker 3: I would, But everyone would thora Thor would fuck you.
Speaker 1: Well, right, everyone get fucked by Thor. Let's be realistic
about you're getting the hammer. He also said, I cut
off my quote here, as are the Germans and uh,
the Saxons only accepted to the Saxons, Ben Franklin, I
guess who with the English make the principal body of
white people on the face of the earth. So whites
are Saxon and English, not even Scottish actually apparently, So
if you're not from England or Saxony, I don't fuck
with you.
Speaker 4: You ain't white. Swedes not white.
Speaker 2: So not the French either.
Speaker 1: French aren't white.
Speaker 3: French aren't white.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He didn't classify the French. But the
French aren't white.
Speaker 3: They hate the French.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think the French. He's just like and
the French are monkeys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's dirty what he was in a lot of French. Eventually,
well he fuck.
Speaker 3: Him, but he like them, he likes him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just trying to get off.
Speaker 1: How many people have you had sex with? You didn't like.
Speaker 3: Most but first yourself?
Speaker 5: Yeah, really, every time I master dated jerk off, like
I hate this guy, and then I just feel uttersh
and you let that guy jerk you off again again.
Have some fucking respect, dude, good lord, what are you
a Christian statue?
Speaker 3: Nine year old?
Speaker 1: Dude? Callbacks to a week ago because we recorded it
an hour ago. Franklin then goes on to say that we,
we the whites, need to use British colonialism to put
more whites on earth.
Speaker 4: To impress the aliens.
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting take.
Speaker 1: I will quote as such here and who we are
as I may call it scouring our planet by clearing
a America of woods and so making this side of
our globe refrectfrect a blighter light, a brighter light of
the eyes of the inhabitants in Mas and Venus. Why
should we the in the sight of superior beings darken
its people.
Speaker 3: It's so funny because I feel like aliens would be
least impressed by white people.
Speaker 4: They unless they're very pale themselves, I.
Speaker 3: Guess, But like their skin burns in the sun, and
like their hands are the softest, and they're the shortest,
and they lack the athletic prowesses. We are not the shortest, Okay,
the Asians are the shortest.
Speaker 4: Honestly, Latinos pretty short too.
Speaker 3: Yeah we are. We're not we're not a tall people,
but we're hardy and strong. We've got soul.
Speaker 1: I think white people come right in the middle on
to be honest, Yeah, which is in the middle. We're
kind of we're accidentally humanity's default setting, right, we're how
mid height, Well, I guess we're pretty fat average, Yeah,
but everyone's fat in America.
Speaker 5: To do it for you, it's uh, the Latin Americans though,
they always kind of I'll kick their coverage with penis
size though huge. Usually all the South American countries have
big old dicks statistically speaking.
Speaker 1: Especially honestly, if you went by height to length ratio, yeah,
like five five guy with just twelve inches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're winning every time because.
Speaker 3: All the countries from the bottom all did you just
turn the ranking of something.
Speaker 2: Obviously just dragging on the ground.
Speaker 1: Obviously Black guys big dicks too, but they're they're tall.
Like if you're a height to length, it's.
Speaker 3: The thing if you're short and you've got a big hog,
like it gets to your knees.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure Shack has a big dick, but compared
to his body, it looks normal. Yeah, he's got he's
actually got my sized penis. Yeah, anything might look small portionally,
I have Shack's penis.
Speaker 1: Proportional, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 5: Uh, clip that, uh like to get that out there,
he said.
Speaker 1: He goes on to say, why increase the sons of
Africa by planting them in America where we have so
fair an opportunity by excluding all blacks and tawnys of
increasing the lovely white and red. So he wants to
I guess more named Americans do or I guess or
he's counting sunburned.
Speaker 3: Whites as red and I don't rednegs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, people.
Speaker 3: He's like, whites can fuck even if they're poor.
Speaker 1: The reds, the reds, the.
Speaker 2: Reds go Reds, big red machine.
Speaker 1: Uh. I do think. Actually, this is one thing I
like about Franklin is he's cut pretty funny, and I
kind of think the Uh I don't know this not
a historian, and I study study writing from the eighteenth century,
but I kind of think the mars are venus line.
It's like sarcat it's like in it's facetious, like it's
like it'd be like the equivalent of like meat, Like oh,
we're grinding on this podcast to impress whoever runs the simulation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like we're doing something
to impress.
Speaker 1: Okay, run in the simulation, and I think he's doing
the same thing, like, oh, let's make the world like
to impress the aliens on Moss.
Speaker 3: Okay, they're much smarter of it.
Speaker 1: Like I think it's a joke. Lide.
Speaker 5: Yeah, us grinding on a podcast, that's just an oxymoron.
Speaker 4: Grinding on a podcast is absolutely an oxymoron.
Speaker 2: We showed up. We did the bare minimum, cool, cool,
pretty much, pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just talk about our wieners or something for
a couple of minutes. People will pay five dollars for that.
Advertisers love it. We live in a broken society and
we're content.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we should shrink the game. Actually, there's too much content.
Speaker 3: I think I would like a moratorium on content. I
haven't seen breaking bad yet or the word content or
the word content. Kill yourself.
Speaker 2: What kind of content are you putting out?
Speaker 4: If you call it content, you're not making anything good?
Speaker 2: No, and neither.
Speaker 4: Are we fuck your content? No, well of course we're not.
Speaker 2: But we're trying.
Speaker 1: Ish. I wrote something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys put in a lot more effort than
a lot of other male podcasters do.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know. I've watched that. I'm not even
talk about I'm talking about our bosses. But I have
like we have podcasts that record out of here and
stuff like that. I have watched people who are like, oh,
I'll go to plug ass and just like, show up,
what do you want to talk about? Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 3: Go through their dms. At least they respond to their
d ms.
Speaker 2: We will never Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1: Don't do it. So then I want to cheat on
my wife. I'm not. I'm not. I'm loyal.
Speaker 3: You're loyal, loyal. I think you're just tired.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty tired. Yeah, too tired and not be loyal.
So too tired to cheat?
Speaker 5: Like babe when the rough Box story, Yeah, print the shirts.
Speaker 3: Too tired to cheat?
Speaker 1: Wait should we sell those shirts?
Speaker 3: And they start it starts melting at the at the end.
Speaker 5: It's that easy, boys, that's the guy, and print the merch.
So Franklin, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: He considers the North American continent to be this incredible
opportunity for whites for the British Empire, of which he
is still like.
Speaker 3: They like just got there, like it's so.
Speaker 1: New and there for two hundred years.
Speaker 3: Okay, never mind.
Speaker 1: And he's still a loyal subject of the British Empire
at this point. This is twenty that's what this was written.
It's written twenty four years before Lexington Concord, twenty five
years before the declaration of Independence. So he's still very
much a loyal British. He's British, Yeah, and he wants
them to totally dominate Earth. He's like, we need to
run this shit. Let's make more whites in America. America's empty,
let's do it. He actually, you're up, he writes earlier
in the essay, the million doubling supposed but once in
twenty five years will in another century, but more than
the people of England, the greatest number of Englishmen will
be on this side of the water. So essentially what
he's saying is.
Speaker 3: The more the Englishman outside of England than in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, dude, we're gonna be more English dudes
here than we'll be in England. And he also he
also goes on to say, what increase of trade and navigation,
our numbers and ships and seamen will have been here
little more than one hundred years at the force of
our privateers and in the late War. I think it
means the Thirty Years War United was greater both in
men and guns than that of the whole British Navy
in Queen Elizabeth's time. So in the seventeen fifties I
actually found this really fascinating and really like he's.
Speaker 4: Very prescient guy in general.
Speaker 1: In the seventeen fifties, Ben Franklin was like, whoever runs
continental North America and populates it is going to be
an insurmountable superpower.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not wrong, but the problem is there
is no one. It's just America.
Speaker 1: Well so now for now. Yeah, But what he's saying
is is that if we just keep expanding and letting
people live here and and have families and grow, and
we keep putting more people here and control this continent
North America specifically, we no one will be able to
touch us. We will be the biggest power of the world.
And that is basically what happened.
Speaker 3: And is it being england y Yeah, literally what he
called it, except one one crucial detail.
Speaker 5: I don't think it was that hard to call oh no,
this land of abundance, you know, yeah, we barely tapped into.
Speaker 1: It's like the perfect continent. Yeah, Like it's like, if
you look at North America, it is the perfect content.
Speaker 3: I saw that Reddit post this week too, did you.
There was something on reading about like here's why America
is like the heart, like why we are able to
be just.
Speaker 2: Superpower stumble into resources.
Speaker 1: Oh every time, it's like the new thing is lithium.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're like, oh no, we just found the Arkansas
has enough cobalt to like, yeah, it's fueled the world
for it.
Speaker 1: It's fucking nuts because like Europe is temperate or like
it's the same roughly climate as North like the continental
of the United States, but it doesn't have the resources, right,
Or like Africa has the resources, but it's really it's
a really hard continent to traverse and the climate stuff
and stuff like that. Or like South America too, like
like has the resources, but it's it's a rough place
to try to live because it's it's the climate. Carl, Well,
we made those but but like it's just the jungle
and ship like that, right, But like America has all
the resources, or like China, for example, has it's kind
of the same as Europe and North America in terms
of climate, but it doesn't have the resources, right, North America.
Speaker 5: It makes up it makes up for the resources of
manpower kind of not consensual manpower, yeah.
Speaker 1: But not really though. They're still like they have three
times the amount of people have the economy.
Speaker 3: You can't out work not having money, like that's the things.
And we have money because we have resources.
Speaker 1: So it's like resources are money.
Speaker 3: Labor can only do so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we resources are almost like insane generational wealth.
Yeah right, like we are Rockefeller wealth, build Gates wealth.
Speaker 3: And they're making hourly wages and they're you know.
Speaker 4: They feel like they're like, well there's ten times.
Speaker 3: As many earner, but you're not rich.
Speaker 5: I think Europe's accepted that though, right, you can't outwork
and not having money dis grease.
Speaker 3: That's why they don't. That's why they don't do either.
Speaker 5: Yea, they don't do anything. So they're like, you know what,
that's why they taken and hustle for nothing.
Speaker 1: They're like, dude, for a thousand years, actually two thousand years,
we were kind of it and we're done tired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 3: You guys take it. You guys have more energy.
Speaker 2: You guys, everyone any in.
Speaker 1: Your's oh the I mean you look you had rome,
you hat grease.
Speaker 2: But they're in their golden mine ears.
Speaker 1: You know. We're tired. Yeah, we're the idiots. We're their
children supporting them. They're in a nursing home.
Speaker 3: Friends, They're just protesting something different in every single day.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that about the French. They don't even know
what they're doing.
Speaker 2: I love they like a riot.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: They love a writer that's a revolution. I used to
get dms or texts actually from friends being like do
you believe what's going on in France or.
Speaker 2: Like again yes, always like when yeah.
Speaker 3: When they're like, oh, look all the people at a
cafe and there's fires behind them, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that's a cigarettes go just because there's a
fire outside.
Speaker 4: So Franklin is like, we need to populate this continent.
Speaker 1: But of course, like I said, he is very specifically
concerned with populating it with the right type of people,
white people.
Speaker 3: So he starts finding so he's like.
Speaker 1: I'm goddamn tired of all these non white Germans moving
into fucking Pennsylvania. In seventeen fifty one, and he writes
of the Germans, why should the Palatine bores he suffered
or be suffered to swarm into our our settlements and
by her together establish their language and manners to the
exclusion of ours. Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English,
become a colony of aliens who will shortly be so
numerous as to germanize us instead of are anglifying them,
and will never adopt our language or customs anymore than
they can acquire our complexion, which I think they had
their complexion I.
Speaker 3: Don't like the complexion is the same.
Speaker 5: He got it wrong, though he should have got the
Dutch out. He doesn't like the Dutch either, Pennsylvania Dutch.
Speaker 1: I think he actually considers the Dutch and Germans the same,
because it ends up being the Dutch that get really
angry at him for this letter, because it gets this
letter eventually gets published.
Speaker 2: They're stuck in the past. Man. They don't want to progress.
Speaker 1: The Dutch, oh, the Amish, but at this point they
might be normal. Yeah, seventeen fifties, that's where they're stuck.
I feel like eight early eighteen months.
Speaker 3: Cause they can use candles and stuff like they'd sound
like they can only use the sunlight.
Speaker 5: No, what if they're just progressively one hundred and fifty
years behind always like they always like in one hundred.
Speaker 3: And fifty years they're like have I.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would. That'd be sweet. I would respect
that about the Amish if they were just like we're
on the it's like, what.
Speaker 3: Would be one hundred and fifty years ago technology.
Speaker 5: So like in the seventeen hundreds they were just doing
fifteen hundred shit, Actually.
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty years ago technology, they would be
like they would have the telegraph and electricity, yeah, the
eighteen seventies. Not great electricity, but something like light bulbs.
Speaker 3: And when was the telephone later later than.
Speaker 1: A little later, maybe a little later.
Speaker 3: That's close.
Speaker 1: Why get in there? Yeah, yeah, they'll have chat relet
cars in twenty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cameras are out now.
Speaker 1: They have cameras, not video cameras, but just like photography.
Stay still, yeah for twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: So he really hates these other white people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he thinks Germans are trash and he thinks like
he's like, oh, they all stay in their own community,
they only speak their own language.
Speaker 2: They're never gonna fund racism though, you're allowed to do this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're allowed to beat up on our own.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, all Hispanics hate other Hispaniics.
Speaker 1: So that is the funniest thing to me is like
I try to tell I've told this to people before,
like all the time for years, is that.
Speaker 5: There's stereotypes inside the black community about like you know,
Nigerians being shady.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like Asians, all Asians hate each other like Japanese, Chinese, Chinese.
Oh yeah, well no, they all Japanese to But there's
I've seen Asians talk about before, like online and stuff
about how there's like a hierarchy of Asian nests too,
like if you're Korean, Japanese, or Chinese, your top tier.
Speaker 3: No Chinese is low, is it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Japanese and Korean.
Speaker 3: Japanese is at the top.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think Korean's pretty high too.
Speaker 3: Korean's kind of high. But I feel like generally ones
are like Tai Yeah, like the land workers.
Speaker 2: In the China is still there, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some China, but like I think.
Speaker 1: Han Chinese we're talking about like Vietnamese and but they
like there's a real hiker and going into even World
War One. This is where I was telling someone about it.
I was like, War one cracks me up because like,
and even World War two to an extent, because like
it was white people, and I'm not talking about like
Germans and Jews like like Hitler or even in World
War One, like the Germans thought that like Slavs were gross,
like Russians and checks and stuff.
Speaker 2: Like that, and they were all related.
Speaker 1: If you took those people to like probably Europeans, because
they'll figure out. But if you took it up to
a white American and you're like, which one's German, which
one's Russian?
Speaker 4: No one's getting it right, no, no one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, You're like, can I smell their breath? Can I?
Can I see what they'd ordered?
Speaker 1: Can I hear them talk? No? I can't hear them talk?
Speaker 3: Okay, shot in the dark?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Like do they smell like vodka?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: In Franklin's defense, he is, of course, he is not
a frothing racist, right, He's not David Duke. He's not
some KKK guy or whatever I would like I said earlier,
I would call this this essay the equivalent of a
of a tweet thread.
Speaker 3: He's just like a patriot. I think he just likes
his people.
Speaker 4: He says that at the end, and I'll get to
that quote eventually.
Speaker 1: Sorry, he's a nationalist, Yeah, he's not even that.
Speaker 4: I'll get to it at the end.
Speaker 1: But this, this essay though, that he writes is kind
of like people look at the written word, anything you write,
or even anything you say on a podcast. Now there's
no sarcasm font there's no sarcasm fought, but there's even
no like you can write something down when people will
take it as very declarative where you're really just like,
I don't know, I was just thinking out loud, like
writing it down.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it to see what it sounds like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's not I'm not Mary. You're right, I
put an idea down. Maybe it was shitty. I don't know,
but I'm not married. I wasn't married to the idea.
Speaker 2: I put it out there, just working on bits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit.
Speaker 4: Yes, he tested material out. Calm down, everybody.
Speaker 1: It's thoughtful, but it is still off the cuff is
the way I would put it. And the race stuff
is really just an addendum in this letter he puts
it at the end he's actually the most of the
letter is really just about British geopolitical dob. He's just like,
we need to run the world, England needs around the world, which.
Speaker 4: I don't actually blame him for thinking at the time,
because as far as like even though they weren't great
by any.
Speaker 1: Means, as far as like humans first, human rights and
law and stuff like that, goes banking, best, best law, best.
Speaker 4: Finance system, best everything in the world.
Speaker 1: Like if you if you wanted to get the least
fucked in a legal system, it was the English legal system.
If you wanted the freest financial system, it was the
English financial system. Any of that stuff not amazing.
Speaker 2: And they passed the torch to us and we essentially they.
Speaker 1: Started on it.
Speaker 3: We iterated on it. That's the thing I think that
they we executed. They sailed on their first draft for
everything too long. Like we're editors. We are like tinkerers
as a society, you know, they're very much like first
good enough is good enough.
Speaker 1: They're Chuck Berry were the Beatles and ironic flip of
the right.
Speaker 4: They invented rock and roll. We perfected rock and roll.
Speaker 3: Yes to just and rock thinks the Beatles are perfect
rock and roll.
Speaker 1: The perfect. They're the Beatles.
Speaker 3: They're the Beatles.
Speaker 1: Talk to your boyfriend about.
Speaker 3: That rock and roll perfect.
Speaker 5: I don't think that The Battle I don't know are
probably the first band you mentioned with the rock and roll.
Speaker 1: They're a rock band. They are literally rock and roll.
Speaker 3: They were rock and roll, you know, yeah, No, they
were rock and roll.
Speaker 1: Rock and we both we do both.
Speaker 3: Both.
Speaker 1: So he is basically like England, the British need to
dominate the globe so we can make stuff better. And
the way to do that is we got to send
a bunch of people to America, get them married and
get them pregnant, get them fucking uh. And he wanted
to do that by supporting the the middle class.
Speaker 4: Actually it's a very cool.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you just all this like starts to
sound child tax credits very familiar.
Speaker 5: Very quickly, he said, communism when families can be it's
gonna sound like what it is today.
Speaker 4: It sounds exactly like what it is today.
Speaker 1: Uh. He says about city living for example, if you
can like see if this sounds familiar at all, because
he's he's concerned that in England. Essentially, one problem is
is that they're out of land in the country, right,
and no one. So people move to the cities. But
when you're in the city, it.
Speaker 3: Smells like ship.
Speaker 2: Everyone's on top of each other.
Speaker 3: You can't play.
Speaker 1: No, it's that you play too much. It's that everyone's
having too much of a good time. There's too much luxury.
They're not nobody's nobody has.
Speaker 4: You have too much stuff to do instead of having kids.
Speaker 3: I'm a fucking infarman in the city.
Speaker 1: Literally, this is before New York City had energy. Yeah,
it's before NYC energy. Said, in cities where trade, occupation
and offices are full, many delay marrying till they can
see how to bear the charges of a family, which
charges are greater in cities as luxury is more common.
Speaker 3: He invented suburbs.
Speaker 4: Sort of got well, so he'd be down with suburbs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of think he essentially talks about He
says city living's expensive. People are career, so career and
luxury focused that they delay having families.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because that there's always a better apartment
in the city versus if you're building your own house
on your own piece of land.
Speaker 1: Right, this is in seventeen fifty one, the exact same
shit people say today.
Speaker 5: I just want to work on my career, get to
a good point right now, career oriented, and make some money.
Speaker 3: I mean, you blame people. It's so expensive.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I don't have no, you know,
money for like a kid or whatever. It's like, it's like,
I promise you there. You might not earn the money,
but you'll probably if you do, will go away because
you just had to pay for them.
Speaker 2: And I promise you.
Speaker 5: Rob does not think about money when he tosses another one,
and his wife thinking tossing.
Speaker 2: You're just tossing left and round.
Speaker 3: Just living out Ben Franklin's.
Speaker 4: I'm a gun slinger, Yeah, I sling it, or you
just buy a house.
Speaker 5: Really, you're just financially you're you're you're firing from the
hip at all times.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you're you're really yes, standing this ship,
but you were making it work.
Speaker 1: We're getting done. What can I say if you guys
want to buy a house are Yeah, I can't tell
you more than that because I don't want to give you
my address.
Speaker 5: But I'll give it to you on the discord.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll drop the address in the discord.
The letter continues in a way that probably also sounds familiar,
especially if you replace the idea of land ownership with
home ownership. Yeah, because landownership, I guess basically farm ownership
used to be home ownership.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just want a piece of that American dream.
Speaker 3: See the way you're gonna you're gonna make money. It's
a Positive's an investment versus just.
Speaker 5: Really the only thing that kind of transitions from generation
to generation.
Speaker 1: They ain't making more land.
Speaker 2: Ain't making more land.
Speaker 4: Except in America, where he was like, there's so much
land in America.
Speaker 1: Do we got to settle as ship We're printing land.
Speaker 5: Land go Burr. Yeah, as far as America, go Bert.
They couldn't give Oklahoma away fast enough.
Speaker 1: They try.
Speaker 4: It's why it's called sooners.
Speaker 3: Oh really Yeah cool.
Speaker 1: The people who settled it where the people who got
there sooner?
Speaker 3: Huh, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Think stupid fuck Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't like Oklahoma, but I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's people got there. Have you seen that
Tom Cruise movie Far and Away with Nicole Kibbon. I
think that's where he tricked her in America.
Speaker 5: And then Tennessee. The volunteers are actually about Texas.
Speaker 1: They volunteered at the Alamo.
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah cool, I like that. That's nice.
Speaker 2: So they're they're really the the.
Speaker 1: Ut, the UT.
Speaker 4: There was actually I want to say A and M
was playing Tennessee one time.
Speaker 5: Like Tennessee should get credit since they, you know, helped
make Texas.
Speaker 4: Davy Crockett Tennessee not Texas. Uh, there was A A M.
Speaker 1: You know those fucking cringe A and M things where
the guy what they do, Yeah, the guy over the
walk around who talks ship wholl be like, what's the
ball anyway? Literally, they said, what's a vall anyway?
Speaker 3: Male cheerleaders?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think some Tennessee fan responded the reason
you're not Mexico A and M, which is.
Speaker 3: That's so good, it's so funny. And I bet the
Aggie didn't get it.
Speaker 1: No, of course, don't.
Speaker 3: You've been to an Aggie wedding. It's the worst fucking
cult ritual.
Speaker 1: They're just when they get the.
Speaker 3: Towels and they're all swaying and they do the fun
they yelled like it's just like so they the rings rings,
they like, give out the towels.
Speaker 1: I've done at wedding.
Speaker 2: It just sounds like a Steeler wedding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4: It's probably about the same level of class, just as
much barfing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I I have done before for weddings that
took place in my twenties. It's a fraternity ritual of
my fraternity to do the sing the fraternity emblem with
the guy like he's in the middle of everyone sings
the fraternity song over them or whatever.
Speaker 4: So when I got married at the age.
Speaker 1: Of thirty three, I believe yeah, five years ago, thirty three,
my fraternity brothers who were at the wedding and came
up to me and they're like, do you want us
to do I'm like, I'm thirty three. We can pass.
We can pass. I love my fratorney, but we're good.
Speaker 3: Yeah I'd rather not.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They were like, and even they came up to me,
They're like, were you expecting us?
Speaker 3: They're like, no, no, I'm good, just because if you're
just we'll just do a casual parade through the street instead.
Speaker 2: Your previous employers are like, yeah, yeah, here's the frack guy.
Speaker 1: Now they would have I mean because we did it
at only one of their weddings. Actually only one was
married at the time. We did do it at his wedding,
but he was he.
Speaker 3: Got six then, Yeah, it's like that was yours.
Speaker 2: It's still fresh all you've done.
Speaker 5: Literally it's yes, four years it was the most important
thing in your life at that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I can't think of a the worst thing to do
then go.
Speaker 2: Back to the house.
Speaker 3: Did you live in the house?
Speaker 2: You live in the house for two and a half years.
Speaker 1: But I mean I would go back to like yet I.
Speaker 2: Don't think so. Also, we have introduced myself to current brothers.
Speaker 1: Oh well we okay, I'm just gonna walk around our
alumni with your.
Speaker 3: Alumni of your fraternities. Let in trans people.
Speaker 1: Uh no for women. But also like that's not really
a problem at a dude house. Like there's no no,
no one's gonna get no one's no one's gonna feel
uncomfortable way where into a.
Speaker 3: Dude I've seen some very like I don't know, I'm
on a part of like it was like a rush
TikTok and there was like this really flamboyant gig guy.
I was like I'm rushing this fraternity and I was
like that's I'm interested. And he was like reporting back
and it was like so inclusive. It was really fun.
Everyone loved me. It was a great time. I'm like, wow,
thanks for changed.
Speaker 1: Uh. Even when I was in school, there was like
one or two fraternities that was known for like rushing
gay guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. There was always a gay fraternity.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's nice.
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't all gate Aides, but there was the
fraternity that was like, yeah, we'll take because one or
you would join.
Speaker 3: Someone's gotta clean up, keep it livable.
Speaker 1: Typically teak, keep it nice. I forget who it was,
but it yeah, I mean it was whatever, and we
there were definitely makes girls.
Speaker 3: Feel safer, does it when there's a gay man in
the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if you had that kind of perspective
when you're that young, you would pull more. You would
have pulled more if we just had a gay guy
in the house that just brought all the girls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like kind of it is like, oh, but.
Speaker 1: You don't think about that when you're twenty. He's like, dude,
the gospel the house, the gospel is jick. Yeah, there
was there was a time.
Speaker 2: Which I mean every gay man does want to fuck me,
which is funny.
Speaker 3: You seem like bear like, you seem like a bear trap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody wants to fuck you.
Speaker 1: They want to get Yeah. Yeah, well maybe actually some
someone probably does want to be like I want to
turn you out, but right, I'm sure actually a lot
of guys do. There was a with this.
Speaker 2: Ass that it's fucking donk, what a waste, send me
to prison.
Speaker 1: It is funny though to think about that. There was
like what does that guy who already hates me think
of me if there's a gig because they're one of
my favorite moments from college as far as like just
like small, little like hilarious moment is uh.
Speaker 4: We were standing on the front lawn of my for
Terry house at like.
Speaker 1: Two in the morning, and it was me and another
guy who was active in the house at the time,
and like three alums who were like in their mid
late twenties who were back the football weekend, right, and
we're just staying on the front lawn like drinking as
one does, smoking cigarettes, and a truck drives by and
there's several people in the truck. I don't know where
they came from. I don't know where they're going. Are
clearly just going from A to B. And they passed
by our house at two in the morning. Clearly they're
all drunk as well, right in the bed of the truck, yeah,
bed of the truck, and in the in obviously in
the cabin. Well obviously it's a college campus. It's two
in the morning. The ship faced right, But they're just
this is normal. They're just driving through. We're like on
main street, look for something to do, right, and they're
just driving by. They're going they're probably going somewhere to
do something, and they're to drive by. And sometimes you.
Speaker 5: Would just get drunk and get in the back of
the truck and try to start ship.
Speaker 1: Well, this is what happened, basically, is is they were
driving by. I think they were just they were going
somewhere and they're driving through. We're the only people on
there was like other houses around. We're the only people
on the lawn in view right of any of the
lawns that are around us. They drive by us, it's
two in the morning, where's outside smoking, drinking, And then
they just drive by and they go fu and then
just keep driving. Oh no, we just lost I know,
are I know? Sorry that somebody yelled that at me.
Speaker 3: And because fraternities are so gay.
Speaker 2: I got somebody.
Speaker 5: I got somebody to stop subscribing to another podcast I
was on. And the reason for leaving their patroons is
because I, I guess, casually used the F word.
Speaker 1: And we only ever use it as like either we
were counting a story where we were called that or
we're like being a character.
Speaker 2: I'm not using as like a punchline, right yeah.
Speaker 1: But so they yelled at and this drunk alum, I guess,
very prideful just turns to me. He's like, that would
people think of us? And I'm like, that's what drunk
people in the bed of a truck at two in
the morning is how far my fraternity's falling. What people
think about falling apart? What do you expect him to yell? Like?
Speaker 3: You guys rule, you didn't have much.
Speaker 1: The only thing we yell at someone at two in
the morning, we would do that.
Speaker 5: So anytime we did hood rash shit uh as we
left the scene of the crime, we would scream theta
kaye rules.
Speaker 3: Eh, that's funny, that's what.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I was like the comedy when you're bombing and you're like,
thank you so much of Anemi Meyer good night, and
like you just pay a different name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so we'd like light up a house with pampballs.
Speaker 3: And that's hilarious.
Speaker 4: Okay, So anyway, he goes on to say.
Speaker 1: Franklin goes on to say, like I said, the landownership
with home ownership stuff, and countries full settled. The case
must be nearly the same, lands occupied and improved to
the height. Those who cannot get land must labor on
land others have. When labor's plenty, their wages will be low.
The wages of family is supported with difficulty, with difficulty
deters marriage, and.
Speaker 4: Therefore you don't fuck blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So he's saying Europe is full. We got to bring
people here Europe doesn't. You can't own land in Europe anymore.
All the land is taken, which is like exactly like now, right,
can't buy a house anymore. How are people supposed to
get rich or how's people supposed to build wealth? If
you can on property, he's saying the same thing in
Europe in seventeen fifty can't yes, is land in America.
Speaker 3: But it is the bitcoin of seventeen.
Speaker 5: We did was shift the problem. It was a futures problem.
Speaker 1: It's a it's our problem now, although honestly that's not
even true, because there's so much empty land we could
build like a fucking two million the moon.
Speaker 3: You just have to get like hit by a truck
or like you just need to do some You need
to get an ungodly amount of money and a.
Speaker 2: Lossuit time to go to space.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to go to space.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the first person in space.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be any person in space.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the person to die sooner.
Speaker 3: You don't have any sun I would be I have
seasonal depression and then you I try to kill myself,
and I bet cutting yourself is a lot harder in space.
Speaker 2: But like third generation space man, I'll be okay.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'd have to be like the millions person in space.
Speaker 3: I just don't think it's just not made for us.
Like your bones decay, like you're gonna die younger, you
don't have any.
Speaker 1: They definitely shine.
Speaker 4: I know you age less rapidly, you can't.
Speaker 3: But you lose bone density, so like you get ailment so.
Speaker 1: Drinking milk, that's not how that works.
Speaker 3: Drink milk and loop weights, strap weights to your body
weight all your gains in space, you'd be scrawny.
Speaker 1: Betwink by the time.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't let myself get that.
Speaker 4: Absolutely really up to you it is.
Speaker 2: It's called mind over matter.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's tell that to NASA, the.
Speaker 2: Matter of facts.
Speaker 4: How have they not just made gravity in space?
Speaker 1: They don't figure that out yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why haven't the figured out just.
Speaker 1: Make up spaceship where you can just walk around? Yeah,
it's stupid, So Franklin. One reason Franklin is concerned with
all this is that and wanting Britain to England to
be the premier superpower is that they are not the
premier superpower yet.
Speaker 4: So they are basically tied with France.
Speaker 1: This is before you know the French and Indian War, right,
so the French and Indian War. Hear about the French
and Indian War aka the Seven Years War. It's what
they call it in Europe. In America's French Any War,
as we've covered many times in the show, That bayasically,
once England fights that war, that puts them in first place.
France's second place pretty pretty decently after that point.
Speaker 4: But they're not there yet.
Speaker 1: So Ben Franklin is worried the same way, kind of
the same way people talk about like China now or something.
He's like, dude, we're in.
Speaker 3: We call it runnable, especially if you're in second place,
you're hungry for first.
Speaker 1: I don't think there, it's just tied. I would call
it there even you're still hungry.
Speaker 3: But you can't have two first places.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's only one.
Speaker 3: There's only one winner.
Speaker 1: So Franklin argues that an increase in population thro.
Speaker 2: The Olympics that you can share a medal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but silver medals are basically first loser.
Speaker 5: There's two gold medals you can get. The high jumper
chose not to get a gold medal this year. He
didn't want to share a medal.
Speaker 6: Oh, so they could have done they got they got overtime,
and they just couldn't get over this certain time.
Speaker 1: So at some point they were like, you guys just
want to share the gold. And one of the guys
was like, fuck that, and he lost going that he
but I respect, I actually respect that.
Speaker 3: Do you think he regrets it? Do you think he
lies awake in bed without his metal.
Speaker 2: I think it cost us the gold medal count.
Speaker 1: Actually, no, we wont the gold medal count.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought it was it was the.
Speaker 1: We.
Speaker 2: I think we almost lost the gold medal count because
he didn't take it.
Speaker 5: Uh oh, we did tie with the so that metal
would have put a silver we yeah.
Speaker 4: With China whatever, who cares.
Speaker 1: We're like literally a thousand gold medals ahead of the
next closest country all the time.
Speaker 5: So my dick, everyone, so there are there is technically
a spot where you can be two first place winners,
which is stupid.
Speaker 3: I stand corrected, but it is stupid.
Speaker 1: I think that if you if you want to share
a metal, it has to be the silver. Yeah, no
one gets a gold.
Speaker 3: I agree, two silvers not too gold.
Speaker 2: Nobody could clear it. Nobody got there two silvers.
Speaker 3: You keep going until one, until somebody earns a goal.
Someone dies, so and then there's and then there's just
one gold and no silver.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you keep going literally until the family.
Speaker 2: He gets a purple heart too or something.
Speaker 1: I guess if he's an American, you mean the participation.
Speaker 5: I guess, like if you do get a purple heart
in the military, it's kind of like a stain on
your record.
Speaker 1: No other army or other military guys joke like, oh yeah,
great job. You're a bad a bad job.
Speaker 3: You did a good enough job at doing a bad job.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, they're like, you didn't hate job, Like, hey, dickhead,
the point is to not get shot. You're a bad
at war? Yeah, better at.
Speaker 3: War kill yourself. Await you couldn't do that right.
Speaker 1: Uh So, speaking of economics, since he was super concerned
with this, Franklin and also speaking of race again, Franklin
quite racist against Germans, and he also doesn't want black
people in America. He wants it to be a white German.
Try you got to hate black Yeah, but he he
is also like he's like, economically slavery very stupid.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, why.
Speaker 1: He says, it's an ill grounded opinion by the labor
of slaves America may possibly vie in cheapness of manufacturing
with Britain. The labor of slaves can never be cheap
here as the labor of working men in Britain, as
one may compute it interest of money in the colonies
from six to ten percent. Slaves with one slaves one
with another cost thirty sterling thirty pounds per head.
Speaker 3: Oh, like room and board and all the like it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he says, it's.
Speaker 5: Way cheeses before the cotton gin. So he's, well, even
after them as much, it's way, they're even.
Speaker 1: Still not as economical as as actual paid labor after
the cotton gin. But they are quite a bit more
economical after it. But they're they're not economical at all
pre cotton gin. And he says the reason, now, he
doesn't give one big reason, but the other big reason
that slavery is popular is because a lot of southern
is in particular, there are still northern slave owners in
seventeen fifty, of course, but it's still way bigger than
the South. Is that they're just like.
Speaker 4: I don't want to constantly deal deal with like hiring
and shit.
Speaker 1: Because if you're in a free market, if you're in
a free market, laborers go from one place to another
maybe then they start their own business and compete with
you and stuff like that, whereas slave owners like, yeah,
slaves cost more, but like no one's starting a plantation
against mud, yeah with the slaveseah, And so Franklin's like, yeah,
they're just lazy, Like the slave owners are just like
they don't want to compete, so they just do this instead.
And even even though it costs a little more in money,
I guess it costs less in effort.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're trying to like hang out, smoke cigars,
fuck women, fuck slaves, all everything, write down laws.
Speaker 1: Rebel against America. Yeah, all kinds oft so uh yeah,
he says, he's like slave owners, they just don't want
to fucking deal with the free market.
Speaker 3: I just like that. He's got like a hot take
after hot take just for the sake of it.
Speaker 4: The best part about this letter is that you can't
pin it down.
Speaker 3: It is all over the place.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 4: It's just and again, it's just a guy's thoughts.
Speaker 1: Like that is a bad mood.
Speaker 3: He just had a bad day.
Speaker 1: I think you had a good day. I think he
had a good day. He's right about slavery, he's right
about North America being the most important continent on Earth
by far, and.
Speaker 4: He doesn't even know a tenth of the ship that's
in it.
Speaker 3: He's like a humorous idea. He's like Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah, yes,
he's just complaining and trying to make it funny. What
about their slaves they're so expensive.
Speaker 1: They slaves, but they're too lazy, know, hot and whites.
Speaker 3: Living in the city.
Speaker 1: What. Another fun thing he says about why slavery sucks
is that it makes it makes white people shitty. Specifically,
slave owners make some lazy soft hands.
Speaker 2: You've been on a slave cake recently, have I? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What was the other stuff? I don't even remember.
Speaker 5: Fitz Hughes, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's another one after that.
Speaker 4: Now I didn't know this was a very slavey document.
Speaker 1: I only knew about the German part.
Speaker 5: Then I started reading it and I was like, oh, well,
so eventually of course the Germans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll find slaves.
Speaker 1: Slaves and all that stuff real quick for you go.
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Speaker 2: Uh he writes, should the Germans be slaves?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, right, uh. He says that the Negroes have
been brought to the English sugar Islands and they've greatly
diminished the whites there. The poor are by means, so
no one can get work because the slaves are taking
the work. Not that they want to take the work,
but they are to work. Yeah, not Haiti. Haiti's French.
He's talking about like Jamaica and shit like that, the Bahamas,
stuff like that.
Speaker 5: They're still Englishmen at this point, probably work in sugar
plantations in Haiti. Maybe it is French, but yeah, it's
kind of like yeah, yeah, well, I guess overseeing.
Speaker 1: But eventually he's like, so essentially what happens is the
white fans, the white people who live there who don't
have slaves, can't get work and they're poor and they're
there have to leave or die. And the white people
there who do have slaves never have to work, and
their kids become soft hand trust fund pussies, and they
don't know how to work, and they're completely reliant on
slaves because that's the only thing they know how to
do is be a slave owner. Their entire bit, he's
like it's bad for the economy, it doesn't breed good anything.
He's like slavery is economically or it doesn't make a
comment on slaving black people being wrong.
Speaker 4: But he's just like, economically.
Speaker 1: Not a good idea.
Speaker 3: I forgot which one it was. It was like Rockefeller
or somebody else. It was like the worst thing about
having like raising children with money is like the only
thing that they learn is how to spend it. They
only learn how like the nice things and how to
like order the best wines and whatever. The funk like,
you only get like it's not a good skill to
begetting spending money.
Speaker 4: Social yeah, yeah, it's not really make.
Speaker 3: More money by being good at spending money.
Speaker 1: And those people think like, oh no, I'm not being
a socialite, I'm being a business yeah.
Speaker 4: Funk off.
Speaker 1: So he essentially is like, we need we need only
free people here, only free whites here.
Speaker 4: Germans and Swedes are not white.
Speaker 1: Neither are the.
Speaker 2: Dutch or the Irish or the come on, you need
to be.
Speaker 1: Said, none of that, just the English and Saxon. So
even on this racial stuff though, he was reasonable, like
he Ben Franklin's in an incredibly intelligent self deprecating self
aware person. So even Ben Franklin says, but perhaps I
am partial to the complexion of my country, for such
kind of partiality is natural to mankind.
Speaker 4: So he's like, I'm biased. I'm sure I'm biased.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 1: Could be wrong. I'm only speaking from what my own
point of view. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So even he's like, I'm probably full shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's what I want.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, this essay was eventually published, like I said, four
years after it was written, and his friend thought it
was like a smart essay and the like, yeah, publish it,
and uh it did really well for a while, but
it did eventually fuck his career political career for a
little bit. Obviously, he recovered he lost a race in
whatever the Pennsylvania government was prior to the American Revelation.
Speaker 5: Ever wanted real power, though he didn't. He wasn't running
for like a fraternity cabinet. He was doing like social chair.
Speaker 1: He liked to advise. Yeah, he was an advisor. I
mean he was on the I'll plan the parties. He
was in the Continental Congress. But but I'm not going
to be sober for Yeah, he never wanted to be president.
He never wanted. He was just like, here's what I think.
He helped write the Declaration of Independence. He's a creative population.
Do you think I believe Ben Fanklin was a president? No?
Speaker 4: No, really a bit twenty.
Speaker 3: Just because I see him on money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy conservatives.
Speaker 1: So here's a Here's a problem though, is that you
can fuck people over certain ways when you ask people question.
It's it's a problem people have like uh polls, like
political polls all the time. If you ask a certain question,
you'll get a certain response.
Speaker 2: Let's just say, was Ben Franklin at US president?
Speaker 1: If you if you ask that you I think that
you'll get the best.
Speaker 3: Responder, like, which which president?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: What number president? Was Ben Franklin?
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a high you because you're a certain
amount of people will just trust you were going to
pick a number right, right right. They won't be like
he Wasn't you fuck her?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it depends on how you ask. If you
asked him straight up, was he a president? I bet
actually ninety I think ninety percent say no.
Speaker 2: But the way you framed it, yeah, it would be twenty.
Speaker 4: The way I framed it minimum twenty. Okay, No, but max.
Speaker 3: Thirty, that's still too many.
Speaker 2: Do you think he would have been a good US president?
Speaker 1: Well, he died I think before we even had a president.
But yes, I do think.
Speaker 3: I think he would have brought, like a little bit
the right amount of levity and the right amount of
like I don't really care, but also the right amount
of I do care.
Speaker 5: He's he has a lot to know. He was kind
of sleazy, like he was essentially was Frank Reynolds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he like devolved the older he got, the dirty
he got. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He also man, he cheated on his wife all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, specifically he I think for we did an
episode on this.
Speaker 3: Did she get syphilis too?
Speaker 1: Surely he fell out of love with her because she
she refused to get their child vaccinated for smallpox and
he died of smallpox. Now this is oh yeah, Now
granted I will I in this episode. I defended the
wife to an extent because two things. One this is
I don't know how effective a smallpox vaccine was. This
was the first vaccine in seventeen forty fifty whatever.
Speaker 2: It was literally the first vaccine.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Secondly, if you're ever not going to trust medicine, the
seventeen forties seems like an okay time did not trust.
Speaker 5: It because they would I think they took what cow
pox or milkpox, whatever it's called.
Speaker 2: And it's like a lesser version of small books.
Speaker 1: And essentially they take a sick person, they puncture their pustual.
Speaker 3: They get some of that, they mix it up, mix.
Speaker 4: Punch your punct into you.
Speaker 3: Put it into you. That's still what it is, essentially.
Speaker 1: Much more refined.
Speaker 3: It's much you know, clear.
Speaker 1: But yeah, look, I understand why he's upset because he's
like the smartest guy in the world.
Speaker 3: With her, Like I, yes, he was right. That changes you.
He was right because he's mine. It's her fault.
Speaker 2: But but also like that wasn't accepted. People are like,
what you're going to You're not?
Speaker 1: You not refusing to get your child vaccinated for polio
in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like, you know what, if I
was her and I didn't want to vaccinate my child,
I would have been like, here's what we'll do. You
get the vaccine first he did, Oh he did, Yeah,
then she's done. Then I'm I'm on his side.
Speaker 1: I'll just say again, she was it was new. It
was hyper new. Sure, and also you got to remember,
like sixty fifty years later whenever it was George Washington
died of being bloodlet.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the difference between there's a difference between vaccinations
and blood letting.
Speaker 1: It's just medicine in general. But again a real role
of the dice first doctor.
Speaker 5: First vaccine, the first well okay, not exists before.
Speaker 3: Women's only just like agency was over their children, like
they didn't even have agency over their own bodies, like
they could like so I can see where you know,
if she had in her mind no, and that's like
that is the one thing she can dig her heels in,
and that is kind of the one thing that the
husband has to kind of see it of like it's
you're raising the children.
Speaker 1: The other like sort of argument they had was that
he was like mad about I believe was she got
them baptized behind his back Like he didn't really he
was kind of atheists essentially or agnostic. I guess you
could say he.
Speaker 2: Appreciated it didn't share the same core values.
Speaker 3: Yes, like they should have gotten married.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have. But he was like the kid was
like he loved the child.
Speaker 3: But if you're agnostic. Can't you understand the idea of like.
Speaker 1: Well, she asked him over and over again, and he
just kind of was like, man.
Speaker 2: What agnostics. She's just being different, Like that's what.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, just let her do it if if
it makes her feel better, But.
Speaker 1: She had to have his permission, and he was just
kind of like, I don't know. And then finally she
was like, I'm worried about their souls. I'm going to
get them baptized, got them baptized by the back. And
he's like, bitch, you're going him baptized, but you won't
let me give him a vaccine. And she's like, I
don't even know what that word is.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's her. I do feel like, if
we were to unpack it.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for her.
Speaker 3: It's her only agency as her children.
Speaker 4: And she didn't know what it was and her fucking
child died too.
Speaker 1: I feel bad. I feel bad for a wee, bad
for everyone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not great, not a bad, not a good situation.
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
Speaker 1: So he essentially so those last two paragraphs really pissed
off the Germans and the Pennsylvania Dutch that lived in
Pennsylvania not. The Quakers lost lost and lost an election
because of it. Franklin would go on though, to essentially
try to redeem himself with the Germans who live in Pennsylvania.
He funded education and charities to help settle and assimilate
German immigrants to the colonial culture, essentially to help him
learn English, help him become part of the community, and
stuff like that. So initially, yeah, I mean, probably partly
for the politically game, but he did it. And and
I think Benjamin Franklin was a genuine person, Like I
think he did exist. You're right, he seems.
Speaker 3: Kind of carmudgeony, but like, underneath all.
Speaker 4: That, I think he's an honest guy. Yeah, I think
an honest guy.
Speaker 1: So he would eventually this letter would keep being published
because he did feel strongly about what was in it. However,
he cut the last two paragraphs because he kind of
no longer felt that way.
Speaker 3: The last two paragraphs.
Speaker 1: The race of the Germans are aliens and they're going
to fuck our quality off.
Speaker 2: You need an edit here there. You don't want to
publish a first I mean.
Speaker 3: I've deleted my fair share of tweets.
Speaker 1: Certainly got to do we gotta do.
Speaker 2: I deleted all my tweets and then I started back up.
Speaker 1: And what's interesting about this random tweet thread of a
letter that got published again in highly influential lots.
Speaker 3: Of retweets, highly good ratio.
Speaker 4: Not just retweets.
Speaker 1: But this work was first cited by Adam Smith in
Wealth of Nations.
Speaker 3: Common Tweets.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah it was. It was cited by Adam
Smith and Wealth of Nations Adam Smith one of the
primary people who then went on to influence the Founding Fathers.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like it was like one of the early media
outlets of the revolution.
Speaker 1: The notion of population doubling every twenty five years, which
Ben Franklin about which I read briefly my Ben Franklin.
Speaker 3: Mos one generation.
Speaker 4: Yeah literally, yeah, and it should if you do it right.
Speaker 3: Guess if everyone has four kids, it's not even four
technically I wouldn't it before.
Speaker 1: It just isn't I think now, Like I read in America,
it's like it's like per woman, it needs to be
three in change, But.
Speaker 3: What's the and change? So some people have to have
three a fraction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like a weird the way the stats
work out. Uh, But it also influenced but for three
three in change, so like a conjoint allow.
Speaker 3: For one to die in the first couple of years.
Speaker 1: So influenced Thomas Malthus, who quotes paragraph twenty two of
the essay again like I said's number uh he in
his eighteen oh two work and Essay on the Principal Population.
This essay by Malthus, which decided Ben Franklin and inspired Malthus,
influenced Malthus, I should say not inspired, went on to
influence Charles darr Win, a historian, noted that quote Franklin
is really the source of Darwin's inspiration. He gave Mauthus
the clue to the theory of population we all now
call malt Ducian, and Mauthus gave Darwin the clue which
led to the discovery of natural selection. So this letter
by Ben Franklin that says Germans aren't white people butterfly
not even butterfly affected because it isn't just left the wings,
was one degree of separation away domino affected the theory
of evolution.
Speaker 3: And you know who else was inspired by Darwin Hitler.
Benjamin Franklin Hitler bringing it full circle, straight line you
can draw.
Speaker 2: So so you caught it from the start.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, Hitler, It's always goes back to him.
Speaker 3: It all comes back to Hillary Hitler, Ben Franklin, it's
all Ben Franklin, the original Hitler, many many years, No,
nine reasons why Ben Franklin sports.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what'd you guys learn today?
Speaker 2: Imagine if like a team had Hitler balling that Germans.
Speaker 4: Aren't what, I'm zero percent white, I'm Irish German.
Speaker 1: Ben Franklin would look at me and be yeah, Ben
frank would look at me and be like, get out
of here, you and we're or whatever.
Speaker 2: Just imagine the fear though, just like dunking on someone that.
Speaker 5: There's a world where Wait, with basketball play at the
thirty six Olympics, it might have been too early.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5: Well, I know it was played, okay, I just didn't
know if it was like a respected sport at that point,
because like American football wasn't.
Speaker 4: It was an If it's in the Olympics, it's a
respected sport.
Speaker 1: The US got the gold breaking yeah, Canada got the silver,
Mexico the bronze.
Speaker 4: So it's a real North American game back then.
Speaker 5: And I know we've posted this on our Instagram, but
you know who could actually who.
Speaker 2: Castro?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you told me that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Castro had fucking.
Speaker 1: Hit game a game.
Speaker 3: He does look like he has long arms.
Speaker 5: He just had good handles. He was like crafty live
he's crafty. It's like an old man at the y MC.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: The Germans cleaned our clock at the Berlin Olympics.
Speaker 1: I feel like we had to.
Speaker 3: Travel there court advantage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't as easy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then we were second hungary coming in third in
the middle camp.
Speaker 3: I will say I liked that these Olympics. It was
on a time zone that was a little bit more
favorable to us.
Speaker 1: All the Sochi in Japan and the any Asian Olympic
is a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 2: It doesn't exist. It's in another universe.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: It's like and I feel like, if we're if we're paying,
if NBC is paying for the ship, then put it
on a time zone that we like. Yeah, six hours.
Speaker 5: Max Stiff agreed, like make them part to like do
the sport at two in the morning there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because people will get up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Who's today's hitler.
Speaker 2: Today's actual hitler? Hitler z it gemins for making America
less white. Yeah, for you know, the replacement theory.
Speaker 1: Replacement theory has existed before the United States existed. They
did replace put in America.
Speaker 2: Germans aren't there's so many Germans in America.
Speaker 1: Now German is the number one background of America. Yeah,
for any race like German, German, it's I believe it's German,
then Irish.
Speaker 2: The original great replacement theory, which is hilarious.
Speaker 1: That there are more.
Speaker 3: Wonder how much longer it's going to be that, Like
I wonder if the scales are starting to tip in
a different direction.
Speaker 1: Maybe. But like if you, for example, like marry a
white guy he's Anglo, you're that guy. But I'm just saying,
if you if you have a baby, if you break up,
you you marry and have a baby with an American
white guy, you're probably German. There's going to be German.
They're almost certainly going to be German in there. It's
actually weird if there wasn't, I.
Speaker 3: Get I know, but they're still circumcised, which.
Speaker 1: Is the most important thing.
Speaker 2: And as long as they're Catholic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really the key.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say Hitler is the Reds because all of
a sudden they're better than white people. He was like, yeah,
we English Anglo Saxon's and Reds. Yeah, Red is swarthy,
swarthy Reds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're tawny. I'm swarthy and he's super swarthy.
Speaker 3: He's swirled.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But none of us are white.
Speaker 3: Not white, we're just as We're all just as white.
Speaker 1: Breaking news. I can say, no, there are no white
people on the.
Speaker 3: Spot a white bro podcast. Okay, it's not a podcast
with two white dudes.
Speaker 1: In the eyes of Benjamin Franklin, this is a mind
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Speaker 3: The word?
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