Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied.
Speaker 3: Off the Bench.
Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raising
Kine Studio.
Speaker 3: All Right, welcome back our numb buck to Off the Bench.
Hundred's past eight a m. Now, so you can say
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna open up a Canada West.
Speaker 3: That's not even I guess it should be whit.
Speaker 2: But yeah, which is that? If that's an improvement?
Speaker 3: Alright, but again I applaud your effort to keep it
clean for the cheerings for the young out there.
Speaker 4: I'm not around children much, so it's like, I don't
ever have to censor myself.
Speaker 2: What would parents prefer just hearing that or kids being like,
is but whipp an actual thing?
Speaker 3: I think we should trademark it?
Speaker 4: Yeah for else take my idea, we're.
Speaker 2: Not going to make anything actually good. What are we
going to put in the bottle to just like.
Speaker 3: It's all market? Uh, you aren't around the youth, salot,
but you did show me a real funny picture. Y.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So my cousin Bo, he's five years old, he's
gonna be six this year, which is so jarring because
I was basically like my aunt's and nanny at the time,
so I like when he was like a newborn baby,
I was like taking care of him. But it is
the hundredth day at school, so they all dressed up
as old people, and he's like this little old man
and it's so adorable. I'm gonna see if Taylor. I'm
just in a picture of it to Taylor, see if
he could pull it up. But it is the cutest
thing ever. And then she said that she went to
go drop him off and there's just a bunch a
little old like a bunch of kids, dresses a little yeah. Environment,
So I guess they do that now. I was telling you, Taylor.
Taylor said, they used to do glasses. We used to
just do a little T shirt.
Speaker 3: He's like the hundred The picture he shed me is
full blood.
Speaker 2: We used to make one hundred day glasses like the
zeros were the.
Speaker 4: Eyes newspaper boy cat. He has little wrinkles on his head,
and I guess they painted his hair gray.
Speaker 3: I can only hope that the entire class went all out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she said, there there's a bunch of little old
people there.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fantastic. I need to see that. I think
our school it's like one hundred day, Like they wear
a hundred you know, fethers or whatever, drink kets where
they can put on their shirts or hats whatever. I
don't know if today's a hundred day, though I've already
been there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty cute, though.
Speaker 3: I feel like it takes a long time to get
to one hundred days of school because I feel like
they get a lot off days.
Speaker 4: They do get a lot of off days.
Speaker 3: It was a back in my day type of soapbox.
Here may that's a lot off days.
Speaker 4: Back in my day, we didn't get the full week
of Thanksgiving off. We just got like Wednesday and Thursday
and Friday or something, maybe even just Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 3: It's fall break, which is a full week.
Speaker 4: It's Thanksgiving, Yeah, Christmas, Christmas, which is like the whole month.
Marti Gras, Yeah, we don't get spring over there. They
don't get Marty gral Easter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we doing?
Speaker 4: Why didn't they ever make spring break the same time
we solve?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it not? I can't remember. For in college, I
know it was definitely not in college.
Speaker 4: I don't think it was duram or at least not
for me. I don't know, mm hmm, but yeah, little
children dressed up as old people as hilarious.
Speaker 3: Well was it? It was just Thanksgiving? Was just like
you're off Thursday and Friday, right, yeah? Or maybe maybe
a Wednesday?
Speaker 4: Maybe, think maybe we had Wednesday off the kids these days, kids.
Speaker 3: These days, they don't get it.
Speaker 4: Good for them, they don't ever go to school.
Speaker 3: All right, super Bowl week?
Speaker 4: Who's doing the next?
Speaker 3: Oh? Good question?
Speaker 2: I know this, Arlie, Charlie, Charlie Booth. It worked.
Speaker 3: Like picture this, I know this and then eyes closed,
finger to the scalp. How quickly did I get it?
Speaker 2: After that?
Speaker 4: Charlie?
Speaker 2: You know, and you've heard some of his pu h.
Speaker 3: That sounds like a day Okay, yeah, yeah, that's in
furious song. You nailed it.
Speaker 4: If radio doesn't work out for me, all.
Speaker 3: Right, I need to look up I'd like to look
up the I always like the always I enjoy that one. So,
like I said, this is you know, I think the
time of the year, we're not a ton of actual
sports to break down is happening. We're going to go
through a lot of the different problem best, but we
do have some NFL news, and it got me thinking,
there's there's I think we have wrapped up the coaching
and we'll get to that. But I was I was
looking at the coach, I was looking at the GM movements,
and it got the thinkment thinking this weekend and this
is a I kind of want this to be a
little roundtable discussion here, But who screwed up worse? Who
made the dumber move? And it's all pertains to the
super Bowl, the Seahawks versus the Patriots. Who made the
dumber move? The Minnesota Vikings or the Tennessee Titans. Tennessee Titans.
I think, so wow, that was fast.
Speaker 2: I think I appreciate what Kevin O'Connell can do with quarterbacks,
and I get the JJ W wasn't great. You got
to understand this was technically JJ's rookie year. This was
his first year in the league. Like I'll give him
another year before like you know, we're completely out on him.
But he took you to the one seed as the Titans.
When the hell have you ever been the one seed?
Ryan Tannehill was your quarterback, You were the one seed.
Guess what, Tannehill when his contract was up in Tennessee.
Nobody in the league wanted him. He hadn't played since
and you were the one seed and were a game
away from making it to the super Bowl, and you
fired the guy. Now, guess what, You're gonna have top
five picks for the next four years.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that Raybo was there for six four seasons.
I knew he was there for a while, but if
you would have like gone to my head, I would
have said probably three or four years. But he did.
He get hired in twenty eighteen, went fifty four and
forty five with the Titans, which is respectable record with
the Titans, certainly over sixties, and then two and three
playoff record, Like you said, number one seed Tannehill quarterback,
and then they fire him out of nowhere. And I
think they fire a guy who was pretty much well
respected as a really good coach. So you fire somebody
that's approven good coach, Well, what does he do? Well,
he takes like a year off, he goes and like
you saw him working like the bags and the hitting
drills with the Browns last year. Then he takes a
job with the Patriots and all he does is go
nine to zero on the road, makes it to the
Super Bowl with a second year quarterback as a first
first year head coach, ties the record for the amount
of wins for a first year head coach in the
NFL history. So pretty decent, pretty good, So Titans, egg
on your face. But also on the other hand, counter
argument to what Taylor just said, Minnesota Vikings, you get
rid of Sam Darnold after a year where he had
an incredible year. You have a really good offensive mine
head coach Kevin O'Connell, and you get rid of your
starting quarterback because you believe that this quarterback out of
Michigan is your replacement. And it doesn't matter what anybody does,
doesn't matter who's available. You are going to trust that
draft pick and you're going to give him every opportunity. Well,
guess what happened. Person who made that decision is no
longer employed. There, Vikings fire general manager. I'm going to
try to say this name. I'm gonna try to say
it right, quesci adofo Mensa. How do you think I did?
Speaker 2: You nailed it? Actually?
Speaker 3: Or Queasi I heard I heard questiadofo Mensa fired. This
was like a Wall Street guy who got into football late.
He wasn't like a football dude got into it. I
think back in twenty thirteen with the Niners, kind of
a different way of thinking, a different molded or a
different mindset when it comes to his moves and how
he's you know, created a roster and procured a roster
and drafted well. He hadn't drafted well, and he's made
some terrible decisions. I think four of his twenty eight
players that he drafted as GM ended up being or
I think where the starters at the end of the year.
This year drafts classes so bad it makes the Saints
look good. And don't laugh at that, it's not funny.
So he decides to go with JJ McCarthy and reports
are saying, now, of course that Kevin O'Connell and every
the coaching staff did not want to get rid of
Sam Donald. Well, what does Sam Donald do? He goes
to the Seahawks leads them to the Super Bowl. So
these two castaways from these two organizations, Sam Donald Mike
Vrabel have led their teams in the first year there
to a Super Bowl. What else did this GM do? Well?
He also got rid of Daniel Jones, who Okay, that's
that one's excusable because he wasn't your starter in Minnesota.
But he did go somewhere else and get off the
first half of the season, got off to an MVP
type of start, got some injuries. We know what happened there.
But he did look like a capable quarterback, which your
quarterback did not look like a capable quarterback at any
point during the season, maybe the first week. He had
that one drive at the end of the game. I
can't was it the Bears, he'd be at the line.
Speaker 2: It was the fourth quarter. Remember he came back in
the game.
Speaker 3: Terrible the whole game, and then he has one drive
where he completes a couple of passes. Then all of
a sudden, his alter ego nine, he's nine after that
comes out. Then he gets hurt, and then he's terrible.
So I mean, okay, look, we're not closing the door
on JJ McCarthy. But the move that was made. You
had a guy last year planned towards an MVP caliber level.
Your team was really really good, and you got rid
of them, and at a time where the Vikings are
in kind of a strike now position, they had a
good roster. They had a good team. You're in the
NFC North, who is stacked with loaded with loaded with
teams and to make that decision. And oh yeah, one
other thing, they got rid of Sam Darnold, they got
rid of Daniel Jones. And guess who reports say wanted
to go there, Aaron Rodgers And they said no to that.
So not only did they get rid of the people
in the building, they shut the door from anybody else
coming in to play that position because they believed so much.
Or this one person, quesi Adofo Mensa nailed it again,
credit to myself because he believed so. I think it
is a such an inner questions. You answered it way
faster than I thought you would have. Of who made
the bigger mistake the Viking. The Vikings might be leading
the discussion for me because quarterback is the biggest domino
to fall on any team. I think it's harder to
find a good quarterback than it is to find a
good coach, and a good quarterback can make a good
coach look way better. If you have a quarterback, you
don't get rid of it for an unknown, especially even
if you have a first round pick invested in that unknown.
And at the position at the time where they did it.
Where the Vikings have a good roster. They have a
Justin Jefferson who's at the top of his game in
the NFL, the top of his position, and you're going
to get rid of that, So, you know what, One
man's trash, another man's treasure. The Seahawks find their quarterback
played at an MVP level for most of the season
and has led them to a super Bowl. The Paid
find their coach. They get rid of Jared Mayo after
one season. Who does that? Well, why'd they get rid
of him after one season? Because Mike Vrabel was available.
Do you think they get rid of a coach after
one year if they don't know what they're getting, They're
not like, holy hell, the Titans fired this guy. He's available,
So Jared Mayo, you better have like an incredible year
or we're going to hire this guy. It doesn't matter
who was coaching the page. It's not a not an
indictment on Jared Mayo. It's because Mike Rabel is such
a good head coach and a leader of men, and
obviously the Titans didn't see it. So both boneheaded mistakes
by the Vikings boneheaded mistake by the Titans, and now
the Titans of course those two gms, and oh yeah,
the GM who ended up firing. Let's see, what's his name,
ron Or Ran Carthon was a GM for the Titans
first year in fires Mike Rabel. Guess what, he's not
the GM any more. So you make dumb moves in
the NFL, and dumb moves that make you look bad
fast like these two have, you end up losing your
job over it. And so I gotta only speculate that
that was the main reason that the GM for the
Vikings got fired was because he got rid of their
quarterback and their quarterback stinks. So anybody else say it
any different? No, because, like.
Speaker 2: You talked about it, it's not just getting rid of
Sam Donald. It's the fact that if you get rid
of Donald, you're trading McCarthy. Right. There was a report
last night that came out that it was the Raiders
that were looking to trade for JJ McCarthy. If you
trade for a starting quarterback a minimum, you're giving up
a first round pick. Could the Vikings potentially have, if
not the first overall pick, at least the top three
or four overall pick this year? That would have been
in the cards for the Vikings, and like it's like,
I think it's a bigger screw up, but also I
almost understand it more than the Titans. Like maybe the
GM wanted to come in and check things up, but
at least if you're mensa, you're like, I trust Kevin
O'Connell regardless of who the quarterback is. Now it's dangerous
and a backfire. But no to Rogers. You didn't trade McCarthy,
you didn't bring back Sam Donald. All those things together
is just a massive screw up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could survive, like saying no to Rogers because
he did wasn't great in the Jets. He's an aging quarterback.
Blah blah blah. Look we got this young kid, we
got the quarterback whisper Like that's that's explainable. Maybe getting
rid of one person like whatever it is. But getting
rid of a starting quarterback that played at the level
that you did with a team that is not rebuilding.
You were not starting from the ground up with the
Vikings last year, that is inexcusable. And then just to
highlight that, he goes that quarterback you get rid of
goes and makes a Super Bowl looks pretty terrible. And
you know what that's there's there's consequences to everything, whether
it's good or bad. And if you know, you fire
the guy that goes to the super Bowl the next year,
you end up losing your job. That's kind of the
way it works. So long'd there any thoughts on this
want which one screwed up worse?
Speaker 4: I think that the bigger screw up. I agree that
the mensa, like all of it added up, probably is
like one huge one. But firing my rabel, I think
is the bigger one because I think that you can
get away with having a good coach and not a
great quarterback, like with some scheme and stuff like that.
But I don't I don't know, Like I feel like
the Sam Donald thing, did anybody really see that coming?
Like did anybody really see Sam Donald going to the
super Bowl and like he had did did you did
you see that coming?
Speaker 2: No? Because like the Vikings, Yeah, well to her point,
like I respect Kevin O'Connell so much, and I Donald
was great at how much of that was Kevin O'Connell
at that point that he was the outlier?
Speaker 4: Ye, Selock's got a bunch of weapons too, that are
like like Jackson Smith and Jigba.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, but a great team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's got a lot of
weapons around him, So I still don't know. I mean,
Sam Darnold's obviously really good quarterback. But I think that
the bigger screw up is letting go of Mike Rabel
because now the Titans like, what position are you in?
Speaker 3: You know, not a great one? You hire Robert saw Up. Yeah,
it feels like a makeup higher, like a makeup higher
a day ball.
Speaker 2: We had, a defensive coach, had success. Let's trying to
bring back.
Speaker 4: You can give him, you can give I feel like
you can give Robert Sali a mulligan for the Jets.
Speaker 3: I think that you get anybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. So like I I'm not going to
say that's a bad higher yet, is it a better
higher than Mike Rabel? No?
Speaker 3: No Vikings defense cord Brian Flores, who has got interviews.
He's been a really good coach for really long time,
has a great name, great reputation, really good coach. He
has is getting interviews for head coaches. Well, he signs
back with the Vikings. Yeah, for reported six million a
year defensive coordinators, so like this six million number is
getting thrown like coordinator in the NFL. Good job. But
he made a statement the of the day and he
thanked everybody. He loves the will family, the owners, he
loves this head coach. He mentioned a lot of people
and never mentioned the GM. So this had like this
little stinky vibe to it where this GM was not.
It doesn't feel like, at least from an outsider perspective,
that he was very well liked within that building. So
the timing is weird, like you're gonna wait until, like
I think this mensa guy was at the Senior Bowl,
he was at doing all the scouting, and you wait
till like now to fire him when a lot of
like these probably really good prospects for young and young
enup and coming GM's. Probably a lot of guys have
re signed or taken jobs elsewhere, So the timing is weird.
It just probably felt like there was a lot of
internal pressure like hey, we got to get rid of this. Yeah,
this guy sucks, so he's out of there. But six
million coordinator NFL, it's a good time to be a
coach right now? Yeah, all right, A lot well It
doesn't really matter who the dumbest one is in this
whole situation, the Vikings or the Titans. They both made
a pretty big mistake and moral of the story. In
the NFL, it's a results oriented world, so if you
don't get the results, you get fired. Both those gms
who made those dumb decisions are no longer employed with
those organizations. So that's what happened. Sorry about it. We'll
keep talking sports. Right here, we come back aft thementrum
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it is super Bowl week, the Big Game, the Big
Game almost like a Super Game. Someone I know who
gets in trouble for that.
Speaker 2: I think it's if you're like, like, okay, if Guarantee
is carrying the super Bowl on the radio, you have
to say the Big Game, like I think if I think,
if you're promoting it, you have to say the Big Game.
If you're just casually chatting amongst your buds, I don't think.
Speaker 3: I met don't listen to the super Bowl right here?
Speaker 1: Mmmm?
Speaker 3: I think I think that's the I watched the Big Game.
Listen to the Big Game, not the Super Bowl. Big Game.
A lot of new coaches in the NFL, Taylor, you
got the list? Can we run down? Because I think
we've talked about these coaches, these new coaching changes, a
lot of the different ones. But I think we are
putting a putting a cap on it. I think we have.
I don't think there's any vacacies left, is there? No,
that's a Raiders and Cardinals were the last ones. John
Harball to the Giants and then, as we just mentioned,
Clint Kubiak to the Raiders. Micha Lafloor to the Cardinals,
not Matt Lafleur. There's a little confusion on your confusion.
I was like the floor, where do you leave.
Speaker 2: The fancy to the falcon.
Speaker 4: The Packers to go to the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: H my god, that's a that's a tough job just
because of the division.
Speaker 3: You're the division like for the Cardinals that that was
not a sexy job to take it all.
Speaker 4: And you have a little boo boo at quarterback.
Speaker 2: Clint Kuby exercode man. I thought it was a little
weird that he took the Raiders job over the Cardinals.
I probably would have taken the Cardinals' job before the Raiders.
It's just me would have taken the Cardinals over the Raiders. Yeah,
I would have taken the Cardinals job over the Raiders.
The Kyler's not your long term answer. Can you be
your bridge guy for a year? Figure things out? Like
you're getting Mendoza, but okay, great, who's blocking for him?
Your line's awful. You got brock Bowers. You have nothing
on defense, at least with the Cardinals. Like Michael Wilson
was in a thousand yard receiver. Marvin Errison Junior is good.
You got a top five tight end and Trady McBride.
There's pieces there. You just don't have your quarterback. Figure
out their defense was good? Just the Raiders like they
have nothing. Yeah you have brock Bowers.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But from an offensive minded perspective, Vegas. Yeah, if
you're if you're a coordinator, offensive coordinator, and you're going
to take a head coaching job, your first shot at it,
Like you give me quarterback, Yeah, if you want, you want,
you want to start fresh with a top quarterback, Like
you tell me, whatever the road is, you tell me, Okay,
you don't have this, you don't have that, you don't
have all of these things. But what you do get
as you get Fernana Mendoza with the number one overall
pick as his first year, and you can install your
offense and we're gonna give you four or five years
as the head coach. See what you got. I take
that and I say I can we can figure out
a way as long as you're right, GMS in place.
We've got Tom Brady makes some decisions. Good. We have
to be able to figure out the rest. But if
I can, if I can knock out the biggest domina,
like the Arizona thing. I'd rather be in the Raiders
Division than Arizona's division right now, just from the way
that well, yeah, because like none of them are great.
Speaker 2: Miss most of the season this year, right because I
mean what he got hurt second to last game of
the year, He's gonna he's gonna miss at least the
large chunk of the season.
Speaker 3: So the Broncos are good, but I don't think they're
They're like a fearful good. Like I'm not scared of
them type good. Now Seahawks I'm a little wary of.
Speaker 2: And then what are what are the Chargers with all
their injuries? Like how of how does that work? Charge
is gonna Charger at some point? Right? Okay, Well those
are the those are the two. Over the weekend. Obviously
we mentioned John Harball with the Giants, Kevin Stefanski to
the Falcons, Robert Solos we mentioned earlier to the Titans.
The Ravens hired Jesse Mentor, who is the defensive coordinator
with the Chargers. Joe Brady gets promoted to head coach
at the Bills. Todd Monkin finally gets a shot. He's
going to the Browns. Jeff Halfley to the Dolphins and
Mike McCarthy to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk winners and losers in the off season.
Give me your biggest loser first on each ofvl's biggest loser,
and then we'll come around talk about winners.
Speaker 1: On that.
Speaker 4: I think the Ravens. I don't know too much about
Jesse Minter, but to get rid of John Harball, like,
I don't know, it's what we always talk about, like
is the grass greener on the other side, I don't know.
And then the Steelers kind of feels like you made
a lateral move a little bit with getting firing Mike
Tomlin and hiring Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: He's the offensive version.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like a very lateral So for me,
I think the Ravens just because you got rid of
John Harbaugh, who is keeping you in conversations for somebody
who is a coordinator, which everybody needs a shot at
some point, right, somebody has to start somewhere. But I
guess we'll just have to see how that works out.
Speaker 2: My biggest loser is gonna be the Dolphins hiring Jeff Haffley.
Not that Jeff Haffley's not a good coach. It's just
all the talk was, how come Mike McDaniel can fix
this offense? You got to bring in somebody that can,
and you hire a defensive coach like I'm good with
going offense to defense. Also try something different if you're
the Dolphins, because you're never good. Eight straight coaching cycles.
They have hired a first time head coach. That's going
all the way back to Nick Saban by the way,
a first time NFL head coach. They continue to do
the same thing over and over. Not the sexiest higher
Your defense will be a lot better, but find me
a path to getting all those weapons of the ball
that you couldn't do the past few years. I don't
like that hire at all. That's my biggest lee.
Speaker 3: Dolphins trying to become like Packers south right a little bit.
They take their new GM and he of course from
from Green Bay, and then longtime guy with the graa
Ay scout executive up in Green Bay, and then he
of course does something comfortable and familiar. So it's hard
to hire like a first time guy and say this
is a winner or a loser.
Speaker 2: I mean, Pittsburgh, I don't think it wasn't great last
year either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess I don't know if
the Ravens are gonna end up being the loser out
of this field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they take jesse mentor defensive guy that kind of
fits with the Ravens personality. The Steelers they do take,
I wouldn't I don't disagree with that comment that it's
a lateral move, but I think maybe they wanted to
make a lot like if you make a lateral move
from Mike Tomlin, that's you got a pretty good head coach, right,
And Mike Tomlin is the one that broke up in
that did the breakup in that situation. I think the
Steelers organization was a little bit maybe they knew it
was gonna happen. Maybe that was gonna be a like
they make an announcement together. But I think Tomlin doing
it so fast, I think it might have taken them
caught them all a little bit off guard. But I
think if you can find a lateral move to Mike Tomlin,
pretty good, right. And we've talked about Mike McCarthy's resume
on this record, it's very similar to you know, when
this is a handful of years ago when him and
Sean Payton were both available at the time, and Sean
Payton was like this guy that everybody was talking so
great about, and everybody was kind of like laughing at
Mike McCarthy, and I was like, well, so like the
same guy. Yeah, they're both really good head coaches. They
both have a Super Bowl victory, they both have they
both have MVP caliber quarterbacks. I know Drew never actually
won one, whether you know he should have or not
or whatever, but we know who Drew Brees is. They're
like the same coach. And so Mike McCarthy, Pittsburgh guy
you saw in this press conference. So I think that
I think that hire is actually a win. The biggest you.
Speaker 4: Have neutral on that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like a lot of these are wait
and see, especially with the new with the new hires,
but the Cardinals with Mike Lafore, like just the Cardinals
when you're like the last person to hire, Yeah, you
know that it's.
Speaker 4: Just hire to Yeah, Like they were like, actually, we're
gonna also get rid.
Speaker 2: Of well I mean I guess, I guess the Steelers
because the admitted to the playoffs and all that. But yeah,
I mean as far as like the bad teams yeah,
I wanted one more year of Jonathan Gannon so that
we can get a hard knocks. Yep, A little upset
about that, but.
Speaker 3: I need you to pull some of those clips, Like
we were talking about some of the clips, like the
secondhand awkwardness that you get just watching them watching him,
you love them. That had been fantastic. He get a
hard knocks.
Speaker 4: Wait, so that's your loser.
Speaker 3: That's my loser. It's just and I don't know, like Mike,
he could be amazing, he could be great. We don't
know he's coming. Where's he coming from? The Chargers.
Speaker 2: Well, he's coming from the under And I get it.
It's the McVeigh coaching tree. But yeah, I mean before
this season, did anybody know that Michae Lafore was even
on the Rams coaching stuff? I didn't hand up. I mean,
that's just to me, that was just kind of an
out of left field name.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, a hiring cycle like in
the NFL, when you're the last person to hire, you know,
it's just always going to rereak of desperation. Yeah, you're
you're reaching trying, so you you probably struck out in
all the names you wanted, all the names that you
had a good feeling that we're going to work out
and be a good head coach for a long good
long term head coach to bring in a new era
of Cardinal football and find a new find the franchise
quarterback and all this good stuff. But then when you don't,
when that doesn't happen, I think at that point you
tried to go find a diamond in the rough. You
go try to find the next great thing and try
to find an innovator, try to find someone. Can somebody
can this guy come and be the next Sean McVay,
Can he do it? Well? Everything else? So we struck
out on everything else, we might as well try, like
there's it's not gonna hurt anything to give it a try.
So you go and you try to find somebody that's
just going to be this person that came out of
left field that nobody knew if he was gonna work
out or not. And so we'll see the only time
will tell. But Cardinals are my loser there. All right,
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Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven. Champs Purple and Gold to the Core.
This is off the Bench with Hester and Flynn Matton
Rouge's go to for all things Louisiana sports.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back here off the bench, eight forty am.
I hope you're staying warm out there. It's been cold
for a long time. Ready for a little sun or
ready for a little warmth? Tired of dripping the faucets?
Speaker 4: I didn't even drip mine, and my faucets are fine.
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Speaker 4: My pipes are fine. Didn't drip not one faucet?
Speaker 3: You ready to call Central? You didn't drip one faucet
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already talked about the Nustbus, but I want to talk
about the eies. Huh, Jenny's Dunker never meet your heroes. Everybody.
I wanted to talk to this guy.
Speaker 4: For the week, the whole week.
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to Jennings Dunker, beautiful Red Mullet,
an absolute unit dominating out there in practice. Do you
know what, never meet your heroes. We got an interview
with them. It wasn't really like it was like a
media day interview. It's one of these situations where it's
real awkward that these people are staying around, they don't
really want to be there, and go, hey, man, can
I get a couple questions with you? And they're like, okay, fine,
well we give it up. I was asking everybody like
four different questions. He was a big disappointment. He was
a big.
Speaker 4: Like literally has zero opinions.
Speaker 3: She sent me.
Speaker 2: She sent me the video because obviously that wasn't getting posted.
Let'n't make no snopa. You've never been anywhere, you'd never
done anything. He didn't have any interest, he didn't have
any opinions. Just think of everything.
Speaker 3: That's one thing he can changed about college college sports.
I don't think I'll change anything about college sports. All right, Cool,
what's your favorite football movie? I've never seen any football movies.
Red Red Flag, for sure. So I didn't even follow
up with the Varsity Blues question, what's your go to
order to talk about I don't think I've ever had
talk about how well you're gonna be a draft bust?
For sure?
Speaker 4: Sorry, just based off these four questions alone, you're not.
Speaker 3: Making Before that, I was ready to take him at
one overall.
Speaker 2: Before the interview, he'd be like, thanks to Jenning's I'm
sure you'll crush the draft interviews.
Speaker 3: Thanks to absolutely electric stuff you.
Speaker 4: Chris Marler sends us this, uh interview. I didn't even
watch it because it was gonna make me mad. It
was like, oh, this this interview was electric.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like some amazing stuff here, right, takes it back?
That stuff was not amazing, I guess so he he did.
Speaker 4: You're right though. I did ask him if he could
do the questions with us, and he was like, I
just need to go eat first.
Speaker 3: I got a car blow. Yeah, what wasn't talk about?
No anyway, of course, we're having a little fun with this.
I hope he has a fantastic career. I was just
expecting so much because of this got fire red hair.
He was he was an absolute you know, he was
wearing like the shortest like butterfly shorts of practice too.
It's like you got it, fly it like tree trunks.
I wish him well, but it was a born interview
and he didn't have have. We just asked them the
wrong questions obviously. I mean, what football player would ever
watch a football movie? So there was a ridiculous question.
I should have asked him, do you like music? He
probably would have said no, I don't never heard music before.
Speaker 2: I usually just wear headphones but don't actually turn them on.
Speaker 3: No, he's canceling for life.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: The popular answer for favorite football movie was remember the Titans.
I said that the week before we left, and y'all
didn't agree with me. That my favorite.
Speaker 3: Well, obviously it's not my favorite football movie. Yeah, remember
the Titans was the number one. Yeah, the program got
to vote.
Speaker 4: The program did get one.
Speaker 3: Any given Sunday gotta vote, yes, But like the programs
older than Varsity Blues, any given Sundays, it's gotta be
like right, and the same Sunday is older than Varus, it's.
Speaker 4: Gotta be No one said Draft.
Speaker 2: Wow, the movie.
Speaker 3: About the Browns. None said that one, but nobody has.
Speaker 2: He's scary that's a scary movie for them. None of
them want to be drafted by the Browns.
Speaker 3: Like, not only have people not seen nobody saw Varsity Blues.
Not only have they not seen it, they had to
think about the words I said, like, wait, Varsity Blue?
Is that a movie? Oh? No, I hadn't seen that one.
Of course, barely even heard of it. Varsity Blues came
out in nineteen ninety nine. Any guesses on.
Speaker 2: The da given Sunday came out? Man, I guess, I'll
say ninety eight, nineteen ninety nine, same year.
Speaker 3: All right, so have same air and nailed that boom.
When did the Replacements come out? It was a big
football movie. Placements was later? They too much later?
Speaker 2: No, it was probably early two thousands, a.
Speaker 3: Lot of football movies. Thousand, two thousand, an elephant.
Speaker 4: Rotten Tomatoes?
Speaker 2: What's you? Maybe just have awful taste in movies. I
think roden Tomatoes sucks. Anytime I see a movie, they're
like this movie, he's in ninety percent on rotten Tomatoes.
I watched it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, side yeah, not man. So usually you like
you look at the worst the rotten Tomato score is
probably the more you're gonna like it.
Speaker 2: Yep. I look at the audience score, my people.
Speaker 3: So what was the one you was it Varsity Blues
or the replacements you just gave?
Speaker 4: Replacements was in two thousand and.
Speaker 2: Then Varsity Blues and any given Sunday, we're both.
Speaker 3: Ninety nine years, big big air for football movie.
Speaker 2: We had one in a one.
Speaker 3: I have ever seen the movie The Last Boy Scout
with Bruce Willis. I believe I have Damon Wayne. Well,
the beginning scene of it is this football movie where
this guy's like drugged out of his mind, I believe,
and like he's a running back and he's running with
the ball. Okay, okay, all right, maybe i'm mister. It's
either the runner they guy tackling basically pulls out a
gun then shoots the ball carrier, or he shoots the
guy trying to tackle him. I can't remember. Oh yeah,
this is a city movie.
Speaker 2: Is actually that's actually.
Speaker 3: A movie game? Oh yeah, it's raining, it's in the game.
I think it's the I think it's the running back.
He's a ball carrier and he's running with the ball
and he starts shooting people trying to tackle him.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was gonna ask roughness the guy
who fired the shot. Did he get ejected or did
he get to.
Speaker 4: Was atmatic first down?
Speaker 2: Targeting set out one? No, that's not as bad as
targeting no shot.
Speaker 3: He had to set out the first half of the game.
The following game one series is ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. When
someone brought up air bud, I'm sure, I'm assuming he's
made a golden, golden receiver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great movie.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they had to deflate the hell out
of those balls for a dog to catch a football
right the cover of this movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Damon Wayne's here, I got it right here. Yeah,
Damon Waynes is holding a football and then Bruce will
fire in the background as a gun.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't actually i've watched the movie.
This is like back in college, and I don't remember
how it ends. I just remember that beginning scene. I
didn't remember it well because I could remember if it
was a ballcarrier that did the shooting or the tackler.
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a ball carrier doing the shooting running down the field. Yeah,
it's effective. Actually, like that better.
Speaker 4: I don't get what the plot of this movie is,
but look.
Speaker 2: At this, Look at this this movie cover.
Speaker 4: Guys halle Berry is in this.
Speaker 3: Obviously this was how to be late nineties two.
Speaker 4: So the film follows a washed up private investigator, Bruce Willis,
who teams up with a scandalized former football star Waynes
to uncover a political conspiracy involving their former players. I
don't know how you come up with something.
Speaker 2: Perfect for a movie that doesn't sound good. It's got
a big dust. I don't know what the pitch was.
Speaker 3: Very the beginning scens electric lot of people in the
all right, we're gonna get to the bottom of us.
We're gonna keep talking football movies and clicked on the
last boy scout. Maybe we'll even watch that first scene
at some point this week. Who even knows. All right,
let's go to break. Let's get back on schedule here
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Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven Champs Purple and Gold to the Core.
This is off the Bench with Hester and Flynn Matton,
Rouge's go to all things Louisiana Sports.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back here off the bench. Sorry about that, guys.
We got a little too excited about football movies. Second ago,
we broke a little late, so we got a really
short segment here, just an update. If you're joining us,
just now joining us, I'll put Paul Tuxi, Phil the Groundhog.
He's Groundhog's dam. He sawid Shadow?
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I said, Tuxi. Yeah, well, Phil solid Shadow. We got
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