WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:14.320 Welcome to the Marvel Alliance Podcast. We recover anything and 2 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:16.679 everything to do to the Marvel Universe from the comics, 3 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:18.559 TV and movies. We will go from er six one 4 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:21.079 six to the Mojo Verse to the TVA in order 5 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:23.440 to bring Marvel Unis right to you. I'm the Man 6 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:24.399 without Fear, Chris. 7 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:31.679 I'm the Nerve with mouth David Alliance a Symbol, Volume 8 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:36.200 two hundred and seventy five And after two weeks, I've 9 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:38.799 returned from the. 10 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:43.039 Previous week from my travels from Spain, I've survived. I 11 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:46.000 did not go running with the bulls travel. There was 12 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:48.600 great travel back, a little dodgy at that point, trying 13 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:51.679 to get back on time. Not my fault, though not 14 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:54.920 my fault. There's a lot of security in Europe. But 15 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:57.479 happy to be back. And I was planted to go. 16 00:00:57.640 --> 00:00:59.960 We were planning to go live and then Marvel decided 17 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:01.439 to do what they always do and they've got a 18 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:03.679 big convention or something coming up. They're gonna hold all 19 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:06.760 that news for the next day, which again I'm fine, 20 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.200 getting a little more rest in but but yeah, we've 21 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:12.920 got a ton to break down. Marvel Studios did not disappoint. 22 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:16.760 But yes, I'm very happy to be back. How are 23 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:18.359 you doing, David, It's been a bit. 24 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:22.840 It has I'm doing well, just you know, enjoying being 25 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:25.840 back in the swing of things on this beautiful Thursday night. 26 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.319 Yeah, Marvel is in the air, how about you all? 27 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:31.040 Fall is definitely here for us. 28 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:36.079 It is very bipolar weather here in the Midwest of 29 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:40.159 where we have eighty eight degrees today and tomorrow or 30 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:42.519 no Saturday, I think it's going to be sixty seven 31 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:43.920 and then all next week it's going to be in 32 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:45.840 the sixties, and then it could go back into the 33 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:48.680 eighties and nineties right after that. The Midwest does not 34 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:49.799 know what it wants to do. 35 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:52.799 Yes, yes, yes, thank you for joining us fifth of 36 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.239 Jack Gaming. Can't wait to see the awesome news. And yes, 37 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.599 thank you, thank you for the welcoming back. Yes happy, 38 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.799 happy to be back, I mean again travel with Spain, Spain, 39 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.239 great trip, great hanging out with all my college buddies. 40 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.680 It's been a bit. Lots of fun memories, lots of 41 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:08.080 new memories, lots of reminiscing. But uh, you know, I'm 42 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:10.719 a I'm a big person that I love and missed 43 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:12.639 my family and so it needs to say. It was 44 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.479 very happy reunion when I got to get home and 45 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:17.960 give all my my wife and my kids a big 46 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:21.840 old hug. So nice. But but yeah, so we have 47 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:23.840 a ton to talk about. But I first wanted to, 48 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:27.639 you know, want to thank mister Travis Snell for for 49 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:30.639 you know, coming on and subbing in for for me 50 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:34.240 and taking you know, you know, taking back his his 51 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.439 co hosting range while I was out gallivanting the world. 52 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:38.840 And it was a good show. It took me a 53 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:41.680 couple of days to listen to it, but I really 54 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.039 do appreciate it. But you know, I got to address 55 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.240 something he said. It kind of kind of was interesting 56 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:49.080 of something, and I kind of rewanted a couple of 57 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:52.800 times to make sure I was hearing things correctly. You know. 58 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:56.280 He he made it a point to wonder why I've 59 00:02:56.360 --> 00:03:01.719 never thanked him, you know, at some point during the show. 60 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:05.599 I always thank him when he does come on and cose, 61 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.000 but it sounds like they're a little bit more that 62 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:11.719 he was looking for at that point. And you know, Travis, 63 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.879 I have no problem thanking you at that point, as 64 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.439 I have just done thanking you for doing it. I'm 65 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:20.960 not sure what other thanks you want at this point. 66 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:25.639 But but when you don't ask with respect, you're not 67 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:28.560 going to get any respect back. And you know better, 68 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:31.039 You're I'd like to think you're a much more polite guy, 69 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:33.599 so I was. I try to present myself as polite, 70 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:36.960 but I'm not sure where this animosity all of a 71 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.080 sudden is coming front. But again, thank you, my friend 72 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:42.240 for doing it. But I'm not sure what other thanks 73 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:45.439 you're looking for that I haven't been always gracious enough 74 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:49.319 to give. But you know, I don't know what. I 75 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.680 don't know where it's coming from. But hey, you know, 76 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:55.599 Travis like's like likes having a little bit of fun, right, Yeah, 77 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:58.319 and I can have fun back, but yes, you have to. 78 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:00.599 You got to get a little respect that trys to 79 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:04.360 come on. You gotta be careful with that hashtag no kings. 80 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:11.520 Note who said that? Note who said that? At this moment? 81 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.199 All right, well let's go with the network plugs. We 82 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:18.480 are part of the Geek Cultimate Alliance Network with six 83 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:20.920 shows coming to wide range of geek and nerdom. To 84 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:22.560 see the full schedule, check out the show was full 85 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:24.759 and subscribe to the Gee Cultimate Alliance Network on Twitter 86 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.120 at g Waypod Networks. 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You know, 143 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:21.639 lots of great stuff, including a Ultimate Fantastic for volume two. 144 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:25.439 I know that's on David's Christmas list, but as always 145 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:28.279 we wanna we want to thank them for being our 146 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:33.040 official sponsor and uh but yeah, all right, let's pull 147 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:36.279 that down and let me just say again, mister Travis Snow, 148 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:41.959 thank you, thank you so much for doing doing what 149 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:45.720 you need to do to to to come on this 150 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:50.480 show and host for me. You know, I hope that 151 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:52.399 thanks is enough. What do you think, David? Is Is 152 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:53.920 it enough? Is it enough? 153 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:54.319 Now? 154 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:56.079 No, we don't need to do that. But I think 155 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:58.240 it's all too much, you know, we don't the man's 156 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.879 ego is is already is already that. But again, but again, 157 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.040 I will give you the respect you deserve when you 158 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:06.680 come on and host. But right now that that's that's 159 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:08.759 about it. You you had a little stink on what 160 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:12.360 you said, so again, be be careful with that. Be careful, 161 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:14.000 you don't you gotta be careful with that. 162 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:18.920 Yeah, I've gotta stream with him this weekend, so I'm 163 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:20.519 sure that I will hear all of that. 164 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:23.199 I'm sure, I'm sure. Yeah, exactly, And maybe you can 165 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:25.519 get some answers for me. He he's not returning my 166 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:28.160 not returning my messages at this point when I'm asking 167 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.040 for for uh all, I'm getting his ghost And I said, 168 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:34.879 what what did I do to deserve that. So all right, 169 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:39.399 So New York Comic Con, like we said, Marvel came 170 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:41.480 out swinging, and they even came out swinging before like 171 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:44.840 typically they do. You know sometimes your fight coming out 172 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:48.200 and giving interviews. Well, wasn't mister Figgi coming out. It 173 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:54.559 was Brad Windeenbaum who gave an exclusive interview to Entertainment Weekly. 174 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:56.519 So our first is going to be kind of breaking 175 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:01.279 down that article and then going into the Marvel Studios 176 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:04.480 panel that Brandon Davis hosted at that point with a 177 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:09.559 lot of great news. So I got what that whistle first? 178 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:13.000 All right, So they we kind of break this down 179 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:15.919 in the categories. So we're gonna start off with wonder Man. 180 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.440 We'll get to the trailer later. But here's some stuff 181 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:21.879 about they said about wonder Man. So they said, not 182 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:24.039 much has been released on this show yet, but I 183 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.200 get a sense that this is gonna be a meta show. 184 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:29.240 How meta are we talking about here? Brad says, it's 185 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:31.120 one of my favorite things I've ever been a part 186 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:34.080 of of the studio. I'll start there. It's very different 187 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.159 than anything the studios have ever produced in terms of 188 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:38.399 how meta it is. Without getting into details, it's a 189 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:40.960 show that takes place within the MCU, but it's a 190 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:43.840 story about Hollywood, and it's a story about not just Hollywood. 191 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.240 I would say, a story about acting and the journey 192 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:48.799 act of an actor in Hollywood, of having to balance 193 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:52.840 being an artist with making money in very grounded ideas 194 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:55.639 that anyone came up with in Hollywood or in arts 195 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.360 in general can relate to. I certainly could. And it 196 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:02.159 gets very deep. So they say, is this the Marvel's 197 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.759 version of the Studio? So it's funny you should say 198 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:06.799 that we all obviously are as obsessed with that show. 199 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:09.279 I think I personally have seen the show. I think 200 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:09.720 it's great. 201 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:11.120 It's hilarious. 202 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:15.600 I absolutely love it. Yeah, sometimes it cuts a little 203 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:17.799 close to the bone, but it's funny and so great. 204 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:20.159 Wonder Man is very different than the Studio. Actually, it's 205 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:23.440 a different Tonely, it's very sincere, and it's very focused 206 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:25.639 on acting as a craft. The Studio is really more 207 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:28.200 about the big Hollywood system and the machine and the 208 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:29.559 craziness that sues. 209 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:30.360 This is. 210 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:34.759 Really very an intimate portrait of a young actor trying 211 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:37.159 to live his dreams. And he said, so, am I 212 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:41.320 right in saying that this is the brainchild of Daniel Dustin, 213 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:45.440 Daniel Crinton, executive producer of this, and Andrew guests the 214 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:47.840 head writer. He says, yeah, Andrew guess and I worked 215 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:52.519 on Hawkeye. He's been around and really is an amazing writer, 216 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:56.120 amazing craftsman, really understands the industry and was able to 217 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:00.000 dig into these characters. And Deston obviously is an amazing filmmak. 218 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:03.720 He's worked on shunk Chi and it really hues closer 219 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.440 to more independent films. Short term twelve is that kind 220 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.320 of the genre. They crafted something really special, really deep 221 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:13.799 and wonderful at times. It's for an MCU fan that 222 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:17.000 knows the history of Trevor slatly from Ironment three to 223 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.159 shun Chi to hear there's a very interesting three act 224 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.679 structure for his character as well. I don't want to 225 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:25.759 spoil anything, and it's very sincere, very earnest, and it's 226 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:29.799 not cynical, he says. So this is a two hander 227 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.159 Simon and Trevor. He says, yes, they connect on their 228 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.039 love for acting. Other than that they're widely different people. 229 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:40.240 Big surprise there they do mention yet when Yaya did his, 230 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:42.799 when Yaya was actually at the first steps form here, 231 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:45.000 they said, Yah Yad did this in character bit for 232 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:48.480 Marvel Socials where he was playing Simon saying the audition 233 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:50.679 for this role of wonder Man and loved the original 234 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.399 wonder Man when he was younger. Did Yeah, that's definitely 235 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:54.840 a big part of the premise. It gives us a 236 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:56.919 chance to step back at what we do and how 237 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:05.320 we influence culture. So thinking about that, I mean, when 238 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:09.759 we get to the trailer in a little bit, I'm 239 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.240 just I mean, I understand what he's saying. It's very different, 240 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:15.840 but I'm not saying who asked for this? I'm just 241 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.240 I'm very confused about this, this concept at this point, like, 242 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:23.919 are we get to get a true is he playing 243 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:25.720 this character Wonderman or is he gonna be one of 244 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.879 those where he's gonna eventually get powers and be kind 245 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:32.200 of like what Simon is in the comics, an actor 246 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:36.279 who has powers. They haven't really said that, it's the 247 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:38.200 way he's going, and I know he's playing things close 248 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:41.799 to the check. He's not gonna reveal anything, but this is definitely, 249 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:45.679 right now the most out of left field thing for 250 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:48.480 the MCU. And I'm not saying that's good. I'm saying 251 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:51.799 it's bad. I just it. It's ver. I mean, it's 252 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:53.559 just i'm ccratching my head. 253 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:57.639 I very much agree. I was talking to bring about 254 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:00.440 this the other day. I have trouble just of this 255 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:07.440 realizing is Yah Yah playing Simon Williams the actor or 256 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:12.480 Simon Williams transitioning into wonder Man and even reading this 257 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:14.759 article and reading the back and forth between him and 258 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:19.879 Brad Winderbaum, like when he mentions the history of Trevor Slattery. 259 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:25.440 That's not necessarily like a great thing. It had its 260 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:28.159 comedic moments, and it tied some stuff together, and it 261 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.360 had like a little bit of a redemption arc from 262 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:36.120 where it was in Iron Man three two where he 263 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.360 ended up with in Chunk Chi. But it he was 264 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.919 never like that Lynchpin character that you were like, I 265 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:46.879 need to see more of this. So that wasn't really 266 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:49.320 a selling point to me. So it still does not 267 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:54.440 give me any inkling of is this just a buddy 268 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:59.399 film about two burgeoning actors or is this a Marvel 269 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:03.600 super hero epic that we are used to or somewhere 270 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:05.879 in the middle with bits of both. 271 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:10.159 Yeah, So let's let's cue up this trailer and kind 272 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:14.480 of talk about it as we get through this as always, 273 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:18.440 we'll talk to this volumes down and a close capturing zone, 274 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:21.360 but we'll talk you through for there are audio listeners, 275 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:25.200 all right. The entertainment world is stunned. It says, we 276 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:29.799 get a flash of Hollywood where this reclusive filmmaker is 277 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:32.480 coming out of retirement to do a remake of wonder Man, 278 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:36.480 an old an old basically a movie here a movie 279 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:39.720 at that point, and you know, you see this character 280 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:44.399 on the poster right here. It looks nothing like Simon 281 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:46.200 Williams from the comics, but it doesn't have to. I'm 282 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:49.080 just saying, uh, yeah, yeah, sure one out. 283 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:53.480 Yeah, other than the w on his chest, there's nothing. 284 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:56.559 Yeah. I like how the director is saying everyone is 285 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:02.039 tired of superheroes. There a whole opportunity reimagine a whole 286 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:07.480 genre storytelling. And this is part of this whole thing 287 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.440 about being the quote unquote meta thing. It's just like, 288 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.960 I'm not sure. I'm that wasn't funny to me. And 289 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:17.080 I'm not saying I'm not disagreeing. I'm not saying I'm offended. 290 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.919 I'm saying that just didn't land for me. 291 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:25.320 Yeah, I agree, it seemed a little bit too on 292 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:28.840 the nose too, like nod in wink at the audience 293 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.080 that it just didn't hit, like I think that they 294 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:31.759 thought it would. 295 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:38.320 Yeah. So we see kind of footage of I guess 296 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.399 what was the original Wonderman and all the you know, 297 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:45.080 seventies glory of this costume, which is very reminiscent of 298 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:51.080 wonder Man from that era. What are your thoughts about casting? 299 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:55.159 And then we get Trevor and we get Simon Williams. 300 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:00.480 Like how Trevor said he's going to audition for One Man. 301 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:07.919 Yeah, this again, it gives the feel of a buddy 302 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:12.080 movie than it does anything Marvel hero related. 303 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:15.519 Yeah. And so we get Timed telling his age he's 304 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.320 got it, he's born to play this character. And his 305 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:23.080 agent's like, are you serious? Like I said, dropping Leo, 306 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:28.399 Leo DiCaprio's name. There, he's doing his little acting thing, 307 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:34.240 getting prepped for it and checking in and seeing everyone 308 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:39.279 that's getting ready to audition. I'm trying to come up 309 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:46.879 with a backstory of the character. I mean, I'm gonna 310 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:48.600 be interested to see how they play off each other. 311 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:50.399 I mean I like, yeah, yeah, as an actor, I've 312 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:54.799 always enjoyed him. I like this when they're seeing Trevor. 313 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:57.080 It was, yeah, I've seen it before. He said, yeah, 314 00:16:57.080 --> 00:16:58.399 I think he used to be a terrorist. 315 00:16:58.879 --> 00:16:59.120 Yeah. 316 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:01.720 That that line did kind of get me a little 317 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.240 bit of a smile like that. That's one of their 318 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:06.039 jokes that did hit with this. 319 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:09.720 That was I got a chuckle out of me because 320 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:16.039 it Simon Williams reading for wonder Man. The callback is happening, now, 321 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:21.440 just be normal. The breakdown is go method and he 322 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:24.759 gets welcomed into the house and he thinks he's got 323 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:29.319 the part, only to realize he's with Trevor and there's 324 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:34.400 other people here that got called back, including Trevor, and 325 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:38.279 I'm sorry. They're making this guy look the you know, 326 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:46.880 definitely going for the theer, the crazy reclusive director. They 327 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:52.480 definitely got that idea combining nonfiction and fiction. Well, sure, 328 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.119 we're going to make the last movie on Earth. No 329 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:01.720 to have the balls to make another and action wonder Man. 330 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:09.000 You don't know if he's gotten the part yet at all, 331 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:15.279 and so all we know is an eight episode series 332 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.559 streaming January twenty seventh, though we do not have confirmation. 333 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:21.000 So that was the big news starting off, like Wonderman 334 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:24.720 was going to be delayed until twenty twenty six, So 335 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.000 now we have a date January twenty seventh. Now we 336 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:30.960 have this does not confirm nor did anyone say is 337 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:36.119 this dropping week by week? Are they dropping three episodes 338 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:38.960 and then dropping the rest week by week, or are 339 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:42.759 they going to drop everything all at once? So we 340 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:47.400 talked about this in the GUA chat that if they 341 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:51.079 drop everything, if they don't drop, if they drop it 342 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:54.279 week by week, it's going to run up against Daredevil 343 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:58.599 premiering in March. If they drop three episodes and then 344 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:02.759 every episode after a week by week basis, it will 345 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:06.799 run ending right before Daredevil, and then obviously to drop 346 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:12.039 everything at once, I think from what we've heard rumors 347 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:14.119 of the series, it's gonna be kind of like thirty 348 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:16.920 minute episodes. But I'm gonna be honest with you for 349 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:20.880 for selfish reasons. I mean, the Echo was rough just 350 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:23.000 doing I think, what was it, four episodes? 351 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:26.200 Yeah, No, Echo was six. 352 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:29.440 I believe six. That was rough to do that eight 353 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:31.839 episodes to drop, and I get it. And I've said, like, 354 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:34.559 they're just gonna want to dump this and go that 355 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:37.240 we're David and I are gonna have to talk to 356 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:38.079 how we're gonna. 357 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:40.960 Yeah, because even with it coming out on a Tuesday. 358 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:44.200 That's that's still a lot of work. 359 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.160 Yeah, that's I don't know. And my guess is they're 360 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:53.519 probably gonna say something. Come Okay, Episode Echo was five. Okay, 361 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:55.680 I couldn't remember. I knew, yeah there was something around there. 362 00:19:55.720 --> 00:20:00.480 But but yeah, eight episodes dropping out once again, I 363 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:04.079 don't again, this is the last movie of the Chapic. 364 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:08.039 You know, get up much content at that point as 365 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:12.160 they can. But I'm not excited for this year. I'm 366 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:14.240 just gonna be honestly, I haven't been excited for this 367 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:17.920 series since it was announced. Everything coming out of it, 368 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:22.200 it just hasn't wowed me. I try to go in with, 369 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.720 you know, prove to me you're bad. I'm gonna try 370 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:28.759 to do that this one. But again I'm being honest. 371 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:31.000 I am not excited about this, and I can genuinely 372 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.279 say this is probably one of the first Marvel projects 373 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.599 I can generally say I have absolutely the lowest of 374 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:40.920 low expectations for this. Yeah, but I'll be happy to 375 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:43.519 be wrong. I really will. Again, I like yah Ya 376 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:46.640 as an actor. I think he does great job. I 377 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:52.319 just wish the I mean, I will say that I 378 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:53.880 don't think anyone goes out and tries to put out 379 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:57.240 bad quality stuff, but this one is just like in 380 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.680 an era where again they were probably already far too 381 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.039 long to cancel anything and things like that. But it's 382 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:05.880 just I don't understand what was going on in. 383 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:09.759 The room this. I have two thoughts on this. Number One, 384 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:14.400 with it being an eight episode series and with its 385 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:17.279 new release date, I am kind of hoping that they 386 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:20.160 go the way of your friendly neighborhood Spider Man and 387 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:24.880 release it in sections that fit the story. If you 388 00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:27.240 give me a three to two two three, you know 389 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:29.920 something like that. If you just kind of mix it 390 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:34.079 up a little bit and for whatever matches the story, 391 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:39.559 then I'm okay with that. Or if they do go 392 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:43.000 with the binge, yeah, that's gonna be. Nothing about this 393 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:47.119 screams I want to binge this right now. And outside 394 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:50.640 of that, again, there's nothing that's from what I've seen, 395 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:54.599 nothing that's driving me to this. They better stick the 396 00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:58.599 landing or set up something for the feature. If even 397 00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:01.440 if these characters aren't coming back, this has to have 398 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:06.880 some sort of point that sticks it to the m 399 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:10.440 c U or what's the point. What's the point other 400 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:15.039 than you like yah, yah, you like Ben Kingsley, You 401 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:17.920