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Speaker 2: I'm the Nerve with mouth David Alliance a Symbol, Volume
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five And after two weeks, I've
Speaker 2: returned from the.
Speaker 1: Previous week from my travels from Spain, I've survived. I
Speaker 1: did not go running with the bulls travel. There was
Speaker 1: great travel back, a little dodgy at that point, trying
Speaker 1: to get back on time. Not my fault, though not
Speaker 1: my fault. There's a lot of security in Europe. But
Speaker 1: happy to be back. And I was planted to go.
Speaker 1: We were planning to go live and then Marvel decided
Speaker 1: to do what they always do and they've got a
Speaker 1: big convention or something coming up. They're gonna hold all
Speaker 1: that news for the next day, which again I'm fine,
Speaker 1: getting a little more rest in but but yeah, we've
Speaker 1: got a ton to break down. Marvel Studios did not disappoint.
Speaker 1: But yes, I'm very happy to be back. How are
Speaker 1: you doing, David, It's been a bit.
Speaker 3: It has I'm doing well, just you know, enjoying being
Speaker 3: back in the swing of things on this beautiful Thursday night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marvel is in the air, how about you all?
Speaker 1: Fall is definitely here for us.
Speaker 3: It is very bipolar weather here in the Midwest of
Speaker 3: where we have eighty eight degrees today and tomorrow or
Speaker 3: no Saturday, I think it's going to be sixty seven
Speaker 3: and then all next week it's going to be in
Speaker 3: the sixties, and then it could go back into the
Speaker 3: eighties and nineties right after that. The Midwest does not
Speaker 3: know what it wants to do.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, thank you for joining us fifth of
Speaker 1: Jack Gaming. Can't wait to see the awesome news. And yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for the welcoming back. Yes happy,
Speaker 1: happy to be back, I mean again travel with Spain, Spain,
Speaker 1: great trip, great hanging out with all my college buddies.
Speaker 1: It's been a bit. Lots of fun memories, lots of
Speaker 1: new memories, lots of reminiscing. But uh, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a big person that I love and missed
Speaker 1: my family and so it needs to say. It was
Speaker 1: very happy reunion when I got to get home and
Speaker 1: give all my my wife and my kids a big
Speaker 1: old hug. So nice. But but yeah, so we have
Speaker 1: a ton to talk about. But I first wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, want to thank mister Travis Snell for for
Speaker 1: you know, coming on and subbing in for for me
Speaker 1: and taking you know, you know, taking back his his
Speaker 1: co hosting range while I was out gallivanting the world.
Speaker 1: And it was a good show. It took me a
Speaker 1: couple of days to listen to it, but I really
Speaker 1: do appreciate it. But you know, I got to address
Speaker 1: something he said. It kind of kind of was interesting
Speaker 1: of something, and I kind of rewanted a couple of
Speaker 1: times to make sure I was hearing things correctly. You know.
Speaker 1: He he made it a point to wonder why I've
Speaker 1: never thanked him, you know, at some point during the show.
Speaker 1: I always thank him when he does come on and cose,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like they're a little bit more that
Speaker 1: he was looking for at that point. And you know, Travis,
Speaker 1: I have no problem thanking you at that point, as
Speaker 1: I have just done thanking you for doing it. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what other thanks you want at this point.
Speaker 1: But but when you don't ask with respect, you're not
Speaker 1: going to get any respect back. And you know better,
Speaker 1: You're I'd like to think you're a much more polite guy,
Speaker 1: so I was. I try to present myself as polite,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure where this animosity all of a
Speaker 1: sudden is coming front. But again, thank you, my friend
Speaker 1: for doing it. But I'm not sure what other thanks
Speaker 1: you're looking for that I haven't been always gracious enough
Speaker 1: to give. But you know, I don't know what. I
Speaker 1: don't know where it's coming from. But hey, you know,
Speaker 1: Travis like's like likes having a little bit of fun, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I can have fun back, but yes, you have to.
Speaker 1: You got to get a little respect that trys to
Speaker 1: come on. You gotta be careful with that hashtag no kings.
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much for doing doing what
Speaker 1: you need to do to to to come on this
Speaker 1: show and host for me. You know, I hope that
Speaker 1: thanks is enough. What do you think, David? Is Is
Speaker 1: it enough? Is it enough?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: No, we don't need to do that. But I think
Speaker 1: it's all too much, you know, we don't the man's
Speaker 1: ego is is already is already that. But again, but again,
Speaker 1: I will give you the respect you deserve when you
Speaker 1: come on and host. But right now that that's that's
Speaker 1: about it. You you had a little stink on what
Speaker 1: you said, so again, be be careful with that. Be careful,
Speaker 1: you don't you gotta be careful with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've gotta stream with him this weekend, so I'm
Speaker 3: sure that I will hear all of that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure. Yeah, exactly, And maybe you can
Speaker 1: get some answers for me. He he's not returning my
Speaker 1: not returning my messages at this point when I'm asking
Speaker 1: for for uh all, I'm getting his ghost And I said,
Speaker 1: what what did I do to deserve that. So all right,
Speaker 1: So New York Comic Con, like we said, Marvel came
Speaker 1: out swinging, and they even came out swinging before like
Speaker 1: typically they do. You know sometimes your fight coming out
Speaker 1: and giving interviews. Well, wasn't mister Figgi coming out. It
Speaker 1: was Brad Windeenbaum who gave an exclusive interview to Entertainment Weekly.
Speaker 1: So our first is going to be kind of breaking
Speaker 1: down that article and then going into the Marvel Studios
Speaker 1: panel that Brandon Davis hosted at that point with a
Speaker 1: lot of great news. So I got what that whistle first?
Speaker 1: All right, So they we kind of break this down
Speaker 1: in the categories. So we're gonna start off with wonder Man.
Speaker 1: We'll get to the trailer later. But here's some stuff
Speaker 1: about they said about wonder Man. So they said, not
Speaker 1: much has been released on this show yet, but I
Speaker 1: get a sense that this is gonna be a meta show.
Speaker 1: How meta are we talking about here? Brad says, it's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things I've ever been a part
Speaker 1: of of the studio. I'll start there. It's very different
Speaker 1: than anything the studios have ever produced in terms of
Speaker 1: how meta it is. Without getting into details, it's a
Speaker 1: show that takes place within the MCU, but it's a
Speaker 1: story about Hollywood, and it's a story about not just Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I would say, a story about acting and the journey
Speaker 1: act of an actor in Hollywood, of having to balance
Speaker 1: being an artist with making money in very grounded ideas
Speaker 1: that anyone came up with in Hollywood or in arts
Speaker 1: in general can relate to. I certainly could. And it
Speaker 1: gets very deep. So they say, is this the Marvel's
Speaker 1: version of the Studio? So it's funny you should say
Speaker 1: that we all obviously are as obsessed with that show.
Speaker 1: I think I personally have seen the show. I think
Speaker 1: it's great.
Speaker 3: It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. Yeah, sometimes it cuts a little
Speaker 1: close to the bone, but it's funny and so great.
Speaker 1: Wonder Man is very different than the Studio. Actually, it's
Speaker 1: a different Tonely, it's very sincere, and it's very focused
Speaker 1: on acting as a craft. The Studio is really more
Speaker 1: about the big Hollywood system and the machine and the
Speaker 1: craziness that sues.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 1: Really very an intimate portrait of a young actor trying
Speaker 1: to live his dreams. And he said, so, am I
Speaker 1: right in saying that this is the brainchild of Daniel Dustin,
Speaker 1: Daniel Crinton, executive producer of this, and Andrew guests the
Speaker 1: head writer. He says, yeah, Andrew guess and I worked
Speaker 1: on Hawkeye. He's been around and really is an amazing writer,
Speaker 1: amazing craftsman, really understands the industry and was able to
Speaker 1: dig into these characters. And Deston obviously is an amazing filmmak.
Speaker 1: He's worked on shunk Chi and it really hues closer
Speaker 1: to more independent films. Short term twelve is that kind
Speaker 1: of the genre. They crafted something really special, really deep
Speaker 1: and wonderful at times. It's for an MCU fan that
Speaker 1: knows the history of Trevor slatly from Ironment three to
Speaker 1: shun Chi to hear there's a very interesting three act
Speaker 1: structure for his character as well. I don't want to
Speaker 1: spoil anything, and it's very sincere, very earnest, and it's
Speaker 1: not cynical, he says. So this is a two hander
Speaker 1: Simon and Trevor. He says, yes, they connect on their
Speaker 1: love for acting. Other than that they're widely different people.
Speaker 1: Big surprise there they do mention yet when Yaya did his,
Speaker 1: when Yaya was actually at the first steps form here,
Speaker 1: they said, Yah Yad did this in character bit for
Speaker 1: Marvel Socials where he was playing Simon saying the audition
Speaker 1: for this role of wonder Man and loved the original
Speaker 1: wonder Man when he was younger. Did Yeah, that's definitely
Speaker 1: a big part of the premise. It gives us a
Speaker 1: chance to step back at what we do and how
Speaker 1: we influence culture. So thinking about that, I mean, when
Speaker 1: we get to the trailer in a little bit, I'm
Speaker 1: just I mean, I understand what he's saying. It's very different,
Speaker 1: but I'm not saying who asked for this? I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm very confused about this, this concept at this point, like,
Speaker 1: are we get to get a true is he playing
Speaker 1: this character Wonderman or is he gonna be one of
Speaker 1: those where he's gonna eventually get powers and be kind
Speaker 1: of like what Simon is in the comics, an actor
Speaker 1: who has powers. They haven't really said that, it's the
Speaker 1: way he's going, and I know he's playing things close
Speaker 1: to the check. He's not gonna reveal anything, but this is definitely,
Speaker 1: right now the most out of left field thing for
Speaker 1: the MCU. And I'm not saying that's good. I'm saying
Speaker 1: it's bad. I just it. It's ver. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just i'm ccratching my head.
Speaker 3: I very much agree. I was talking to bring about
Speaker 3: this the other day. I have trouble just of this
Speaker 3: realizing is Yah Yah playing Simon Williams the actor or
Speaker 3: Simon Williams transitioning into wonder Man and even reading this
Speaker 3: article and reading the back and forth between him and
Speaker 3: Brad Winderbaum, like when he mentions the history of Trevor Slattery.
Speaker 3: That's not necessarily like a great thing. It had its
Speaker 3: comedic moments, and it tied some stuff together, and it
Speaker 3: had like a little bit of a redemption arc from
Speaker 3: where it was in Iron Man three two where he
Speaker 3: ended up with in Chunk Chi. But it he was
Speaker 3: never like that Lynchpin character that you were like, I
Speaker 3: need to see more of this. So that wasn't really
Speaker 3: a selling point to me. So it still does not
Speaker 3: give me any inkling of is this just a buddy
Speaker 3: film about two burgeoning actors or is this a Marvel
Speaker 3: super hero epic that we are used to or somewhere
Speaker 3: in the middle with bits of both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's let's cue up this trailer and kind
Speaker 1: of talk about it as we get through this as always,
Speaker 1: we'll talk to this volumes down and a close capturing zone,
Speaker 1: but we'll talk you through for there are audio listeners,
Speaker 1: all right. The entertainment world is stunned. It says, we
Speaker 1: get a flash of Hollywood where this reclusive filmmaker is
Speaker 1: coming out of retirement to do a remake of wonder Man,
Speaker 1: an old an old basically a movie here a movie
Speaker 1: at that point, and you know, you see this character
Speaker 1: on the poster right here. It looks nothing like Simon
Speaker 1: Williams from the comics, but it doesn't have to. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, uh, yeah, yeah, sure one out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, other than the w on his chest, there's nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like how the director is saying everyone is
Speaker 1: tired of superheroes. There a whole opportunity reimagine a whole
Speaker 1: genre storytelling. And this is part of this whole thing
Speaker 1: about being the quote unquote meta thing. It's just like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm that wasn't funny to me. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not disagreeing. I'm not saying I'm offended.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that just didn't land for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it seemed a little bit too on
Speaker 3: the nose too, like nod in wink at the audience
Speaker 3: that it just didn't hit, like I think that they
Speaker 3: thought it would.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So we see kind of footage of I guess
Speaker 1: what was the original Wonderman and all the you know,
Speaker 1: seventies glory of this costume, which is very reminiscent of
Speaker 1: wonder Man from that era. What are your thoughts about casting?
Speaker 1: And then we get Trevor and we get Simon Williams.
Speaker 1: Like how Trevor said he's going to audition for One Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this again, it gives the feel of a buddy
Speaker 3: movie than it does anything Marvel hero related.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so we get Timed telling his age he's
Speaker 1: got it, he's born to play this character. And his
Speaker 1: agent's like, are you serious? Like I said, dropping Leo,
Speaker 1: Leo DiCaprio's name. There, he's doing his little acting thing,
Speaker 1: getting prepped for it and checking in and seeing everyone
Speaker 1: that's getting ready to audition. I'm trying to come up
Speaker 1: with a backstory of the character. I mean, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be interested to see how they play off each other.
Speaker 1: I mean I like, yeah, yeah, as an actor, I've
Speaker 1: always enjoyed him. I like this when they're seeing Trevor.
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, I've seen it before. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he used to be a terrorist.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That that line did kind of get me a little
Speaker 3: bit of a smile like that. That's one of their
Speaker 3: jokes that did hit with this.
Speaker 1: That was I got a chuckle out of me because
Speaker 1: it Simon Williams reading for wonder Man. The callback is happening, now,
Speaker 1: just be normal. The breakdown is go method and he
Speaker 1: gets welcomed into the house and he thinks he's got
Speaker 1: the part, only to realize he's with Trevor and there's
Speaker 1: other people here that got called back, including Trevor, and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. They're making this guy look the you know,
Speaker 1: definitely going for the theer, the crazy reclusive director. They
Speaker 1: definitely got that idea combining nonfiction and fiction. Well, sure,
Speaker 1: we're going to make the last movie on Earth. No
Speaker 1: to have the balls to make another and action wonder Man.
Speaker 1: You don't know if he's gotten the part yet at all,
Speaker 1: and so all we know is an eight episode series
Speaker 1: streaming January twenty seventh, though we do not have confirmation.
Speaker 1: So that was the big news starting off, like Wonderman
Speaker 1: was going to be delayed until twenty twenty six, So
Speaker 1: now we have a date January twenty seventh. Now we
Speaker 1: have this does not confirm nor did anyone say is
Speaker 1: this dropping week by week? Are they dropping three episodes
Speaker 1: and then dropping the rest week by week, or are
Speaker 1: they going to drop everything all at once? So we
Speaker 1: talked about this in the GUA chat that if they
Speaker 1: drop everything, if they don't drop, if they drop it
Speaker 1: week by week, it's going to run up against Daredevil
Speaker 1: premiering in March. If they drop three episodes and then
Speaker 1: every episode after a week by week basis, it will
Speaker 1: run ending right before Daredevil, and then obviously to drop
Speaker 1: everything at once, I think from what we've heard rumors
Speaker 1: of the series, it's gonna be kind of like thirty
Speaker 1: minute episodes. But I'm gonna be honest with you for
Speaker 1: for selfish reasons. I mean, the Echo was rough just
Speaker 1: doing I think, what was it, four episodes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Echo was six.
Speaker 1: I believe six. That was rough to do that eight
Speaker 1: episodes to drop, and I get it. And I've said, like,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna want to dump this and go that
Speaker 1: we're David and I are gonna have to talk to
Speaker 1: how we're gonna.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because even with it coming out on a Tuesday.
Speaker 3: That's that's still a lot of work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I don't know. And my guess is they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna say something. Come Okay, Episode Echo was five. Okay,
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember. I knew, yeah there was something around there.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, eight episodes dropping out once again, I
Speaker 1: don't again, this is the last movie of the Chapic.
Speaker 1: You know, get up much content at that point as
Speaker 1: they can. But I'm not excited for this year. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna be honestly, I haven't been excited for this
Speaker 1: series since it was announced. Everything coming out of it,
Speaker 1: it just hasn't wowed me. I try to go in with,
Speaker 1: you know, prove to me you're bad. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to do that this one. But again I'm being honest.
Speaker 1: I am not excited about this, and I can genuinely
Speaker 1: say this is probably one of the first Marvel projects
Speaker 1: I can generally say I have absolutely the lowest of
Speaker 1: low expectations for this. Yeah, but I'll be happy to
Speaker 1: be wrong. I really will. Again, I like yah Ya
Speaker 1: as an actor. I think he does great job. I
Speaker 1: just wish the I mean, I will say that I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone goes out and tries to put out
Speaker 1: bad quality stuff, but this one is just like in
Speaker 1: an era where again they were probably already far too
Speaker 1: long to cancel anything and things like that. But it's
Speaker 1: just I don't understand what was going on in.
Speaker 3: The room this. I have two thoughts on this. Number One,
Speaker 3: with it being an eight episode series and with its
Speaker 3: new release date, I am kind of hoping that they
Speaker 3: go the way of your friendly neighborhood Spider Man and
Speaker 3: release it in sections that fit the story. If you
Speaker 3: give me a three to two two three, you know
Speaker 3: something like that. If you just kind of mix it
Speaker 3: up a little bit and for whatever matches the story,
Speaker 3: then I'm okay with that. Or if they do go
Speaker 3: with the binge, yeah, that's gonna be. Nothing about this
Speaker 3: screams I want to binge this right now. And outside
Speaker 3: of that, again, there's nothing that's from what I've seen,
Speaker 3: nothing that's driving me to this. They better stick the
Speaker 3: landing or set up something for the feature. If even
Speaker 3: if these characters aren't coming back, this has to have
Speaker 3: some sort of point that sticks it to the m
Speaker 3: c U or what's the point. What's the point other
Speaker 3: than you like yah, yah, you like Ben Kingsley, You
Speaker 3: respect these guys who didn't want to cancel their project,
Speaker 3: and I mean you shell Blade forever. You could have
Speaker 3: shelled this so that this this better have something that
Speaker 3: that ties in strong with what's coming up.
Speaker 1: And we will, uh we will just have to see.
Speaker 1: So uh see, we've got b R justin in the chat.
Speaker 1: Keep expectations low and you can't be disappointed. Oh thank you,
Speaker 1: m J. I think it's the same vein as Agatha.
Speaker 1: There's more to the plot when theyre's being promoted on
Speaker 1: the surface. But again I don't that's not a bad
Speaker 1: assessment at that point, but I mean personally, I was
Speaker 1: more The trailers for Agatha gave me a lot of hope,
Speaker 1: and I I was very much intrigued by the character
Speaker 1: of Agatha and enjoyed what they had to do. So yes, again,
Speaker 1: that one was just way more intriguing than that. But
Speaker 1: I do see what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I think Agatha gave us more bread. Agatha gave us
Speaker 3: more breadcrumbs. Agatha gave us the teen, which it was
Speaker 3: the story of. You know, going into it, we knew
Speaker 3: that the teen was a big deal, and there was
Speaker 3: the speculation of was he going to be one of
Speaker 3: Wanda's kids? You had to watch to find out. It
Speaker 3: gave you some reasons other than just Catherine Hahn is
Speaker 3: an amazing actress watch this show.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He follows up by saying, I think it will
Speaker 1: follow the release schedule they've established with Ironheart, multi episode
Speaker 1: weekly drops, probably over a three week in Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we could do that. I mean that would be
Speaker 1: good for us. I mean again, it's a three episodes
Speaker 1: that once it's not great, but it's something that's way
Speaker 1: more doable than eight episodes and trying to figure out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but all right, let us before we get into
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Speaker 1: Disney is very leggitious. Yes they are so so Winnabomb
Speaker 1: goes on as they go into Darren ovil Borne again,
Speaker 1: he said, let's move on to Born Again. So far,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest updates is Kristin Riders involvement. Were
Speaker 1: there a lot of discussions about the very first defender
Speaker 1: that you.
Speaker 3: That what was it, the very first defender that you
Speaker 3: wanted to join.
Speaker 1: The shock yep, sorry my MYPI kind of screwed up
Speaker 1: there for a second, just because Jessica is a great series.
Speaker 1: The first season with Purple Man I put there was
Speaker 1: put up on. There was the marvels I've ever done,
Speaker 1: and Kristin really embodies the character. We like the way
Speaker 1: Frank Castle played in the first season of Dreed devil
Speaker 1: Borne against season one characters can come in in the
Speaker 1: orbit and the greater universe. The first and best idea
Speaker 1: was to bring Kristen back and to have her be
Speaker 1: part of the Resistance, and that Matt was trying to
Speaker 1: build in the midst of a lot of obstacles and
Speaker 1: drest of fisks New York. The next big question we
Speaker 1: got kristin Ritter, He asks, is Luke Cage and Danny
Speaker 1: Rand that far behind? He says, the less I say,
Speaker 1: the better. Dario, our showrunner, is trying to tell a
Speaker 1: story to great effect. That is, like stan Lee said,
Speaker 1: a reflection of the world outside your window. The politics
Speaker 1: of New York are a big part of that story.
Speaker 1: It's clearly about a guy who runs around in a
Speaker 1: devil's soup is But what is amazing about Dario's work
Speaker 1: is the intimacy of the interplay of all these characters
Speaker 1: and how he really treats New York and the world
Speaker 1: of City Hall in the groundswell of the character is
Speaker 1: Resistance round fisk. I feel it like at times like
Speaker 1: a fantasy of Game of Thrones or something. There's a
Speaker 1: prom there's a balance intrigued type storytelling that is really
Speaker 1: fun to read. I'm starting to watch the cuts. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's exactly about who's going
Speaker 1: to show up. It's a little deeper than that, and
Speaker 1: there are rewards to be had for fans. It's really
Speaker 1: about the stakes for this world and that Kingpin building
Speaker 1: in New York. Uh And really says, I want to
Speaker 1: ask about Matt Lillard. When you think about Matt Matth's character,
Speaker 1: you think of all his horror work. I was curious
Speaker 1: about his casting and any specifics that in regards to
Speaker 1: whose character is going to be. He says that he
Speaker 1: plays a man named mister Charles. The story is about power.
Speaker 1: When Wilson Fist takes over New York, not just about
Speaker 1: as mayor but as king in away, it puts him
Speaker 1: in a new class of power players on the international stage.
Speaker 1: Matthew Lillard's character represents that. So he's a bit of
Speaker 1: a new antagonist on the field, but he's influential in
Speaker 1: many ways. As Fisk is that power negotiation is negotiation
Speaker 1: is at a high level politics in international diplomacy. So
Speaker 1: mister Charles is going to be a bad guy, but
Speaker 1: is going to be against Fisk. I imagine that conversation
Speaker 1: about if it's as big of a story affecting this
Speaker 1: much of the city. Do we have we have do
Speaker 1: we have to now bring in like Mala Khan or
Speaker 1: Spider Man or all these other New York based heroes.
Speaker 1: Brad says, Yeah, we are communicating a lot with the
Speaker 1: team of Spider Man Brand New Day to make sure
Speaker 1: that there's coherence there. We don't want to spoil anything,
Speaker 1: but it's very much exists in the same world and
Speaker 1: it is important, and it's important we are in a
Speaker 1: shared universe together. And I would just say just the
Speaker 1: DAREDIVL like like the Dared of a comic books. The
Speaker 1: Punisher com books depicted a certain tone and an idea
Speaker 1: of New York in a different way than Spider Man,
Speaker 1: but they both exist in the same universe. It's similar.
Speaker 1: Everything lines up and impacts are felt. We are able
Speaker 1: to tell different stories, he said, brings up Elden Henson
Speaker 1: was at Elie Comic Con recently. He said something that
Speaker 1: everybody interpreted that he wasn't coming back and dared of
Speaker 1: the season two. I wasn't sure if he's talked about
Speaker 1: Foggy not being alive. Could you clarify, he said, I
Speaker 1: actually haven't seen that quote, but I can tell you
Speaker 1: he is in season two. People don't know what they're
Speaker 1: allowed to say and what they're not allowed to say. Also,
Speaker 1: do I play coy? Do I be honest? It's always
Speaker 1: a dance. So that's the stuff about Dared Devil. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about the leak stuff what they revealed on stage later.
Speaker 1: So Eldon is back. We do see some of that
Speaker 1: in the leak trailer. We did get some confirmation about
Speaker 1: brand New Day is occurring in the timeline after Born
Speaker 1: Again season two. Yeah, but so they're communicating with each other,
Speaker 1: so it sounds like there's gonna be some sort of
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm not saying there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: spider in Hell's Kitchen or Devil and the Queens, but
Speaker 1: you and I and many others are saying, come on,
Speaker 1: I want to see those two in costume together. We
Speaker 1: know we're getting Frank.
Speaker 3: I will say that. You know, one big thing that
Speaker 3: people always say, especially with Marvel movies, is oh, you've
Speaker 3: got this big battle going on here, You've got this
Speaker 3: thing going on here. Where's all the these other heroes
Speaker 3: that are based out of this city. Well, listen, now
Speaker 3: they're at least, you know, taking that into account, like, Okay, well,
Speaker 3: we can't do this in this area of the city
Speaker 3: because in Spider Man, he's going to be in that
Speaker 3: area of the city. So we need to make sure
Speaker 3: that these two things don't have any interactions that wouldn't
Speaker 3: make sense if they're in a shared universe. I do
Speaker 3: like that. So they're not confirming that there is going
Speaker 3: to be a definitive crossover, but they are confirming that, hey,
Speaker 3: we are making sure that there are no conflicts between
Speaker 3: our story and their story or anything that throws off
Speaker 3: the timelines of each story.
Speaker 1: So I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that little hope. I like that dangling carrot
Speaker 3: of what could be, even though they can't say what is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also, you know, I Luke Cage and Danny Rand.
Speaker 1: You know, the question was asked. I have other ideas
Speaker 1: of other people I'd like to see. You know, I've
Speaker 1: said it before. I'd love to see Luke Cage back over,
Speaker 1: Danny Rand again, Colleen Wing, give me, give me Colleen back.
Speaker 1: You know, we can, we can continue on that journey.
Speaker 1: But well see I said that this week.
Speaker 3: Actually, if I can only get one person from each
Speaker 3: show from Iron fists. It would be Colleen. If I
Speaker 3: could only have one to represent that show, it's going
Speaker 3: to be Colleen.
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to be greedy, right, So
Speaker 1: all right, So let's move on to what they talked
Speaker 1: about with X Men ninety seven before we head into
Speaker 1: the panels. So, X Men ninety seven, especially with the
Speaker 1: show runner change, I think fans have a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about what to expect with season two, if the
Speaker 1: vibe and Tony is going to be very similar to
Speaker 1: season one, or if it's going to be a new direction.
Speaker 1: What can you say about the continuation of the show
Speaker 1: under a new creative leadership, Brad says, well, first and foremost,
Speaker 1: it's actually the entire creative team, same director, same producer,
Speaker 1: same cast, many of the same writers, and it's standing
Speaker 1: on the shoulders of giants. One thing that makes X
Speaker 1: Men ninety seven work so well that everybody's rowing in
Speaker 1: the exact same direction. Everyone that works on the show
Speaker 1: knows the original series inside and out, and we worked
Speaker 1: very very closely with Eric and Julia Leweld and Larry Houston,
Speaker 1: the creators of the original series. They're here all the
Speaker 1: time reviewing material and talking about the artists, and the
Speaker 1: second season feels very much a worthy successor for the
Speaker 1: first season. They said, Season one left us a very
Speaker 1: apocalyptic arrival and a very clear tease of Gambits serving
Speaker 1: as the angel of death. Is it fair to assume
Speaker 1: that the teas has a big implications for season two?
Speaker 1: Story at large, Right says the tea certainly matters, and
Speaker 1: apocalypse is a big part of season two. Ross Markwand
Speaker 1: was talking recently, basically teeing up that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of characters that die in season two. He said, I
Speaker 1: saw something about that. I would say that is the
Speaker 1: same state that it has the same stakes as season one.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't characterize it as a lot of characters die.
Speaker 1: It's not Marvel zombies, but like many great anime shows
Speaker 1: like It's ninety seven season one, mortalities on the table,
Speaker 1: and some of these characters want to do what's right
Speaker 1: at any costs. And then you know the elephant in
Speaker 1: the room. Got to ask about bo bo to Mao
Speaker 1: has been sharing his side of his experiences in the
Speaker 1: story on social media pretty regularly. I recognize that this
Speaker 1: is an ongoing conversation being handled internally. What are your
Speaker 1: feelings about on the matter and his exit. We've talked
Speaker 1: about this before. I'm grateful to Bo we've launched the
Speaker 1: series together. I think he did excellent work. Frankly, I
Speaker 1: don't really look at at it or read any of it,
Speaker 1: so I really don't know. I believe every line.
Speaker 3: I believe everything, but that last line. You have had
Speaker 3: me up until that last line.
Speaker 1: That last line. Yeah, so yeah, So, I mean that's
Speaker 1: X Men ninety seven is. I mean, we both have
Speaker 1: said many great things about it. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot writing on this, and we know that from what
Speaker 1: we've understood, most of the season two has remained intact.
Speaker 1: There wasn't too much in the sense of X SO.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very curious to see when
Speaker 1: Bo starts tweeting again when the series does come out.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be you know, he's gonna have worse to say,
Speaker 1: and if something has changed, he's gonna be the first
Speaker 1: one to call it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not gonna be quiet. We know he's not
Speaker 3: gonna be quiet. This line by Brad Wunderbaum is the
Speaker 3: perfect company way of responding to this, so that you
Speaker 3: don't give any feel to the fire. You don't give
Speaker 3: him any ammunition for his arsenal. So I get that,
Speaker 3: but I'm very much looking forward to it. X Men
Speaker 3: ninety seven was an amazing show. I legitimately quoted it
Speaker 3: yesterday in a text message, So you know that's just
Speaker 3: how good it was and how memorable it was. And
Speaker 3: you know, I will say that there are two characters
Speaker 3: in there who were right, and I stand by that,
Speaker 3: and I am so happy that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if you're gonna stand by you
Speaker 1: better stand by stand by who exactly are calling out,
Speaker 1: because then I'm gonna call you out for saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you can't stand by your man.
Speaker 3: Okay, Cyclops was right his whole tirade with the news people.
Speaker 3: My man was on point. He was making some points, Magneto.
Speaker 1: Magneto was right. I'll stay by my point. Cyclopes is wrong,
Speaker 1: he is. I will. I will always stand by that point.
Speaker 1: But yes, Magneto, there's uh, there's a lot to be
Speaker 1: said by that, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the amount of times I quote the line don't
Speaker 3: make me let you down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. B R justin saying I can't believe we'll
Speaker 1: be getting an annual release of X ninety seven starting
Speaker 1: next year, finally putting the IP to good use. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we'll break that down that that I didn't where
Speaker 1: we think we're headed to. So all right, so let
Speaker 1: us from the news article to the panel proper. That
Speaker 1: was again moderated by Fay's heroes. Brandon Davis. Congratulations to
Speaker 1: him and getting that first time getting to moderate a
Speaker 1: panel like this for Marvel Studios. So all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna start off with your friendly neighborhood spider Man season two.
Speaker 1: So again Brad Rennbaum was on stage with him, so
Speaker 1: a lot of this was coming from him. Season two
Speaker 1: will pick off right where season one left off, with
Speaker 1: a major focus on Peter Parker's lore in history. Fans
Speaker 1: will remember season one's ending with the reveal that his father,
Speaker 1: Richard Parker, was alive and in jail as Aunt May
Speaker 1: paid him a visit. There will also be more action
Speaker 1: with c Symbias. After the season ended with a tease
Speaker 1: for Venom. Attendee saw the first publicly released footage for
Speaker 1: season two, which confirmed Charlie Cox's return as the animated
Speaker 1: variant of Marvel of Matt Murdoch and Daredevil. Daredevil will return,
Speaker 1: and he will wear the classic costume of this time. Now,
Speaker 1: when Charlie Cotchs does come on stage four Daredevil two,
Speaker 1: Brandon does ask him about, like, how is it cool
Speaker 1: to be kind of be in uh, you know, seeing
Speaker 1: that suit with Spider Man At that point he meant
Speaker 1: the friendly end with Spider Man. I believe he was.
Speaker 1: He wasn't trying to catch him at that point, but
Speaker 1: Charlie kind of got stumbled a little bit over that one.
Speaker 1: So a lot of us are kind of watching It's like,
Speaker 1: there's more there. I don't know, we're seeing something. Charlie's
Speaker 1: pretty good about it, but he caught him up in something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's one of the things about playing the
Speaker 3: dual role though, the live action plus you know voice
Speaker 3: in this character, is you got to be very very
Speaker 3: careful of how you speak and you need to be
Speaker 3: very exact on the things that you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot to mention. When Brad talked about Marvel Zombie,
Speaker 1: he did follow up by saying, we did our job.
Speaker 1: We did our job with Marble Zombies. Listeners and watchers
Speaker 1: get ready for He basically said, we did our job.
Speaker 1: That's basically as much of a conversation we're gonna get
Speaker 1: another We're gonna get Marble Zombie season two. Yeap, so
Speaker 1: that was a nice surprise to get that confirm. But anyways,
Speaker 1: continue on with her friendly with Spider Man that Additionally,
Speaker 1: season two will deliver the MCU's first adaptation of Gwen Stacy.
Speaker 1: As Peter Parker asks the character, what do I call you,
Speaker 1: she responds with a simple Gwen, confirming the classic love
Speaker 1: interest inclusion. The footage included a new look at Auto Octavius,
Speaker 1: better known as to fanss doc Ac and the alien
Speaker 1: symbiat Venom. Peter Parker returns to Oscorp to find the
Speaker 1: symbiat before striking a deal with Norman Osbourne. The trailer
Speaker 1: closes with Robby Robertson falling off of a roof a
Speaker 1: Lah Green Stacy and Amazing Spider Man two, and it
Speaker 1: cuts right before Spider Man catches him. In this section,
Speaker 1: Winnebaum hyped up Venom by telling the audience fans of
Speaker 1: Venom should get excited. No official release date outside of
Speaker 1: the time period it will come out Fall of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited for Venom. I there's no way around it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's Venom.
Speaker 1: Yep, if if Jack saying he's can't wait for X
Speaker 1: Men Night seven, But yeah, I think friendly with Spider
Speaker 1: Man after those first that first couple of episodes that
Speaker 1: dropped it really surprised me. Yeah, they they really up
Speaker 1: the anti. That was a show that I was saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's Spider Man, I'm gonna give it, give it a shot.
Speaker 1: I want to see what it does. And they went
Speaker 1: some directions that I was pretty impressed with. Still, X
Speaker 1: min ninety seven was is at the top with when
Speaker 1: it comes to the animation, But this one had a
Speaker 1: good idea that for a while, we haven't seen that
Speaker 1: kind of a Peter Parker like this, and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to quit Tomahan like this, this is
Speaker 1: this is a different Peter Parker and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: I like seeing this. You know what Steve did go
Speaker 1: and Stanley did this. This does a good job channeling
Speaker 1: that while bringing him kind of modern flare to it.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited when it does come out. I'm I
Speaker 1: have a lot of high hopes for what they built
Speaker 1: twitter and where it's coming from. Yeah, all right, so good.
Speaker 1: Moving on to X Men ninety seven Season three is
Speaker 1: already in production. Brad Winnebaum says season three will be
Speaker 1: teed up in a massive way by the events of
Speaker 1: season two in the neutral which David and I have
Speaker 1: seen the leak footage for it at that point see
Speaker 1: and we do see Apocalypse, who will be one of
Speaker 1: the main villains for these new episodes. The X Men
Speaker 1: are confirmed to be scattered across the past and future
Speaker 1: as they look to get back to their time period
Speaker 1: in the nineties. As described by Bitch, we got to
Speaker 1: bring the X Men back to the nineties. I gotta
Speaker 1: chuckled at that one. It said so cheesys. I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: so cheesy. Gene Grant's got summer Sun that Nathan Summers
Speaker 1: has grown into a team teenager as well. We did
Speaker 1: see our first look at Wolverine back in costume with
Speaker 1: bone claws saying I'm back. We do see. I found
Speaker 1: it interesting. We got the Grant Morrison new X Men
Speaker 1: costumes at that point, and I find it interesting, Like
Speaker 1: Gene doing kind of like telekinetic Wolverine clause like that
Speaker 1: was interesting, and like using it like Scott to like
Speaker 1: kind of fan out the his optic blast. We get
Speaker 1: like footage of like X Force and Forge. You know,
Speaker 1: Morpho is back. It was you know, we got a
Speaker 1: lot of good I mean again, we're we can't knock
Speaker 1: get it out. So this one. Season two will release
Speaker 1: in summer twenty twenty six, so we got a lot
Speaker 1: to be excited for it for summer.
Speaker 3: It's it's gonna be a busy summer, which means that
Speaker 3: we will not be having to uh want for anything
Speaker 3: for a while. So this time when we get those
Speaker 3: no news breaks, it will be more of a reprieve
Speaker 3: than it is. Marvel's just holding out on us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, VR justin sing I think the nineties line was
Speaker 1: intentionally cheesy, a callback to oh yeah it was. I
Speaker 1: mean again, I'm here for it. It was just interesting
Speaker 1: hearing it come from Bishop, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, So Daredevil Born Again Season two it's confirmed
Speaker 1: to debut in March of twenty twenty six. I think
Speaker 1: we have a sort of confirmation or sort of pretty
Speaker 1: strong feeling like it's gonna come out that first week.
Speaker 1: I want to say March fourth is the date now,
Speaker 1: looking at it, I don't have that in front of
Speaker 1: me right now. So if you wanna, yeah, see if
Speaker 1: you can pull back up. But right now we are
Speaker 1: confirming early March fans got to see the first trailer,
Speaker 1: as did David and I for the New Steven, which
Speaker 1: offered plenty of new details, and Charlie Cox and Christian
Speaker 1: Rider came on stage. Karen Page and Mett Murdock rekindle
Speaker 1: the romantic relationship built during the original Daredevil series of Netflix.
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say to that, getting milkshakes in
Speaker 1: a diner before kissing and dancing. Matt is also attacked
Speaker 1: by something sonic in nature. Other shots highlighted mention John
Speaker 1: Frios Winston fist boxing in the gym. He appears to
Speaker 1: have an underground prison, similar to what fans saw at
Speaker 1: the end of season one. There's also a flashback to
Speaker 1: look at Eldon Henson's foggy Neilson because he's got that
Speaker 1: long hair versus when he where we saw him, all
Speaker 1: crew cuts. So again we're getting flashbacks. You know, we
Speaker 1: don't know if we're gonna get him back alive at
Speaker 1: that point, but release getting him into a flashback, Okay,
Speaker 1: so man without fear, we'll release March fourth, Okay, yep. Perfect.
Speaker 1: Kristin Ritters. Jessica Jones shows up in her first action
Speaker 1: for Marvel Studios since twenty nineteen. We're also has called
Speaker 1: it surreal to return to the MCU, feeling as if
Speaker 1: no time has passed. She did confirm there is a
Speaker 1: group chat with her and the Defenders. Charlie Coxon and
Speaker 1: her and their families are very very close. They're very
Speaker 1: very good friends. So it's she, you know, they're very
Speaker 1: good friends with each other, and so it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's fun getting to act with your friends. Davis also
Speaker 1: discussed at sending a team to defend New York City,
Speaker 1: teasing a potential Defenders reunion after Netflix's Defender saga ended
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Charlie Cox seemed to agree with the sentiment,
Speaker 1: but fans still have to wait for characters like Luke
Speaker 1: Cage or Iron Fist to join the mix. Footage also
Speaker 1: includes Wilson Burt Wilson Bethel as Bullseye, but he was
Speaker 1: not wearing the costume used in season one. It will
Speaker 1: take with Okay, so yeah, so Daredevil Born Against season
Speaker 1: two takes place before Brand New Day. Yes, so it
Speaker 1: was very cool seeing that, seeing that footage, you know,
Speaker 1: and seeing finally fine even though we saw it while
Speaker 1: it was already filming season two getting to see Daredevil
Speaker 1: having the Dity on his chest.
Speaker 3: Finally, Yeah, and he did an interview where he said
Speaker 3: he felt like it was earned having the chance to
Speaker 3: as he kept referring to it the double DS on
Speaker 3: his chest. He said that it felt earned.
Speaker 1: It did feel earned. So and so you know, we're like, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean they I'm kind of going out of order
Speaker 1: of the of the panel. But they started with Daredevil.
Speaker 1: They were like, walln, You're starting with Daredevil, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna end with? Well, they they took they took
Speaker 1: an interesting turn and ended with talking about Vision Quest.
Speaker 1: So they went to Bob and Davis brought up Vision
Speaker 1: star Paul Bett. Need to share some information about Vision Quest,
Speaker 1: including confirming the show's title. This will mark the third
Speaker 1: and final chapter in the wand Division quote unquote trilogy.
Speaker 1: So we've got WandaVision, we got added all along in
Speaker 1: Vision Quest will be the conclusion of that. Us discussed
Speaker 1: the show by detailing how red vision gives white vision.
Speaker 1: We're gonna call it, I like how they're calling it
Speaker 1: Hex's vision and snow vision. All all of his memories,
Speaker 1: including everything that happened in Wanda Maximova's hex during the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one's Wonder Vision. However, snow Vision struggles to
Speaker 1: connect with those memories and lacks the emotions or feelings
Speaker 1: associated with them. According to Betany, snow Vision's journey through
Speaker 1: the show is trying to connect with those memories. A
Speaker 1: short trailer revealed, and this is what I haven't seen yet.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that footage come out yet, have you, David.
Speaker 3: I have not been able to find that footage. I've looked,
Speaker 3: but I've not been able to find that footage.
Speaker 1: So a short trailer revealed many of the show's new
Speaker 1: cast members who play human forms of some of the
Speaker 1: MSU's many notable AI systems, including Henry Lewis, who plays
Speaker 1: Dummy from the Iron Man saga, So we're gonna get
Speaker 1: human version of that. We're gonna get Jonathan Sayer Raise
Speaker 1: You Orla Brady embraces the role of Friday, and Emily
Speaker 1: Hampshire joins the show as Edith from Spider Man Far
Speaker 1: from Home, So they're all gonna be in human form. Additionally,
Speaker 1: James Darcy makes his grand return to the MCU as Jarvis,
Speaker 1: where he first played both seasons in that role of
Speaker 1: Agent Carter and returning in Avengers Endgame. Finally, finally, finally,
Speaker 1: the man of the Hour, the man who I love
Speaker 1: seeing on screen and just love just everything about it,
Speaker 1: just oozes this coolness. Finally, James Spader takes on his
Speaker 1: first MCU project in more than a decade, reprising his
Speaker 1: role as Ultron, also in human form.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited about that, so excited about that.
Speaker 1: So the footage concluded with a quick look at Rudik
Speaker 1: Malika Malka as CCTV recording where he has identified as
Speaker 1: Thomas Shepherd. Fans will recognize that as the reincarnated version
Speaker 1: of Tommy Maximov, also known as Speed. Billy Maximov is
Speaker 1: twin brother in Wanda's other son. So will we see
Speaker 1: a reuniting a Billy and Tommy.
Speaker 3: We've had the revelation with the teen and now we're
Speaker 3: gonna get this. This is supposed to be the culmination,
Speaker 3: So I mean, I think it's it's only right that
Speaker 3: you end with them too coming together.
Speaker 1: Yep. So they did not give a date outside of
Speaker 1: this is just releasing sometime in twenty twenty six. So
Speaker 1: if we know it's not gonna be the first half.
Speaker 1: So my guess is this is going to be a
Speaker 1: fall release, you know, if we're if we're if we're
Speaker 1: saying we got wonder Man January, Daredevil, March X Men
Speaker 1: ninety seven in the spring, I was gonna mean this summer,
Speaker 1: and then we've got a Friendly Neighborhood in the fall.
Speaker 1: This is going to be probably late fall, early winter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they said the first footage evoke the same eerie
Speaker 1: tones as WandaVision.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would suspect somewhere around an October release for this,
Speaker 3: just going off of how they normally space out their shows.
Speaker 3: I could see something around in October release, especially if
Speaker 3: they're not doing another Zombies this year or anything else
Speaker 3: that they have lined up in that category.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So but yeah, so, but yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: was a panel, a lot of very interesting stuff and
Speaker 1: gets us excited for what the future is. So I
Speaker 1: definitely think that was a home run for Marvel Studios.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, I do like it that they've taken kind of
Speaker 1: New York Comic Con as their you know, television premiere stuff.
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and it gives you something to look forward to.
Speaker 3: I mean, everyone knows about San Diego Comic Con haulage
Speaker 3: and things like that. But then have knowing that, okay,
Speaker 3: New York Comic Con, we we're giving you some good,
Speaker 3: some exclusives, and the fact that so many of the
Speaker 3: characters within the Marvel universe are based out of New York.
Speaker 3: Like you've got that that tie to that as well, gotcha?
Speaker 1: But all right, so that was all the news from
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Speaker 1: So let us get into you know, as always, I
Speaker 1: put out the the Spidy signal as it were on
Speaker 1: on in the afternoons on Wednesday, so you all you know,
Speaker 1: we got we gotta, we got a factor of fiction.
Speaker 1: So we'll hold that out off till that point. But
Speaker 1: it looks like you gotta you got someone coming in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we uh, we had a question come in
Speaker 3: literally right as we were about to go live. This
Speaker 3: hit my d MS and it is from Jim scrogg
Speaker 3: saying which MCU character would have the best wrestling entrance
Speaker 3: and what would their song be?
Speaker 1: Oh geezh, I wish I had a little more time
Speaker 1: to think about that. I think of that on the fly.
Speaker 3: I I am going to go with a cheap and
Speaker 3: easy answer, but it makes it makes sense, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say it's it's going to be Thor. It's gonna
Speaker 3: specifically be party Thor. He's gonna come down to thunderstruck.
Speaker 3: But I think that he will use his powers to
Speaker 3: set off the Pyro Like this won't be a guy
Speaker 3: standing in the back hitting a button to set off
Speaker 3: the Piro. No, his his lightning is gonna come down
Speaker 3: and he's gonna make the explosions and he's going to
Speaker 3: have this party jump in all on his own as
Speaker 3: he takes the longest Roman reign style insurance sixteen minutes
Speaker 3: to get to the ring. But it is going to
Speaker 3: be a party.
Speaker 1: Uh see, you had to go Thor. I was gonna
Speaker 1: go Baty ray Bill. So I'm not gonna do that,
Speaker 1: and I you know, but but will I will go
Speaker 1: a different way. I will go with you know, I
Speaker 1: I know I may be alone in this one, and
Speaker 1: that it's okay. I'll be an island to myself. I
Speaker 1: was always a big I actually was a fan of
Speaker 1: the the swerve they did with Undertaker as the when
Speaker 1: he went, when he went kind of biker Undertaker, I
Speaker 1: actually did. I did like that. But along the same
Speaker 1: vein you know who who do good wrestler? How about him?
Speaker 1: You know my man, uh Danny Ketch ghost Rider coming
Speaker 1: down and that in that flames and uh, you know
Speaker 1: we're gonna have his entrance music be a little bit
Speaker 1: of a C d C Highway to Hell.
Speaker 3: Oh that that's that is a good one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna go gonna go with that Danny
Speaker 1: Ketch with oh it was my my my ghost writer.
Speaker 3: So yes, no, that that is definitely a good one.
Speaker 3: And I can see it with the flames and everything,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I'm here for that one.
Speaker 1: That's good all right? So well, thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: Jim for coming in with that one. So let us
Speaker 1: head into factor fiction. So from a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: either coming from mister Snow, should I thank him again?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to think I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: thank him. Yeah, he doesn't need to be thanked, So
Speaker 1: factor fiction. Number one, Avengers Doomsday in Secret Wars will
Speaker 1: make four billion dollars combined. Forty seven percent said fact,
Speaker 1: fifty three percent said fiction. So let me see we'll
Speaker 1: make four billion combined. A Yeah, I'm I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be a fiction on that one. I'm gonna be fiction
Speaker 1: might come close. Yeah, all right. Number two, we won't
Speaker 1: get a Young Avengers or Champions live action project of
Speaker 1: any sort within the next five years fifty five percent
Speaker 1: in fact, forty five percent in fiction. Heart wants it,
Speaker 1: but we're starting to get aged out of this.
Speaker 3: I mean for getting Billy and Tommy though maybe maybe.
Speaker 1: And again I'm not gonna turn down seeing Hailey Steinfeld
Speaker 1: lead the team, but you know. Number three, last one,
Speaker 1: maharscher La Ali will appear in Avenger Secret Wars seventeen
Speaker 1: percent in fact eighty three percent said fiction. Probably not,
Speaker 1: probably not yep, all right, So my turn this week.
Speaker 1: So Number one Wanda at Wanda slash scarlet, which will
Speaker 1: not appear in Vision Quest in new footage only if
Speaker 1: we do see anything of Wanda or indoor scarlet, which
Speaker 1: it'll just be in repurposed footage, so we will not
Speaker 1: see her in any new footage envision quest.
Speaker 3: I will go fact on that.
Speaker 1: I'm along with you that one.
Speaker 3: I think that if they're going to bring her back
Speaker 3: fully bring her back, that they are going to save
Speaker 3: her for something bigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with you on that one. Heart wants it,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think it's gonna be in the cards.
Speaker 1: She's still dead dead at the Doornet. We'll sonor and
Speaker 1: you know what, I've put it out there. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put it out there proper for a fact of fiction.
Speaker 1: Colleen Wing will return to Daredevil Born Against season two
Speaker 1: as a new iron Fist. It's going to happen. Putting
Speaker 1: it out there, it's gonna happen. That's gonna be the
Speaker 1: big surprise. That's gonna be one of the big surprises
Speaker 1: coming out.
Speaker 3: I'm so fifty to fifty on this, But just because
Speaker 3: my heart wants it, I am going to say fact.
Speaker 3: I can see them in the middle of a battle,
Speaker 3: A glowing fist punches through. They think it's Danny and
Speaker 3: his Colleen, and I'm going to just jump out of
Speaker 3: my seat with joy.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right. And finally we will see a major
Speaker 1: team member of the X Men die in X Men
Speaker 1: ninety seven and not be resurrected like they're dead. We're not.
Speaker 1: No no resurrections, no do overs. This x this team
Speaker 1: member from the X Men will will be dead.
Speaker 3: I am going to say fact on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yep, I'm a fact as well. I think
Speaker 1: someone's gonna stay dead this time, Cyclops. And that's what
Speaker 1: he will be right about dead.
Speaker 3: Death is where he's right.
Speaker 1: He is right in death, right there, Jean, cry over
Speaker 1: it and oh so sorry, Scott, let me just you know,
Speaker 1: put my arm around you there, Genie.
Speaker 3: Genie, let me comfort you.
Speaker 1: Yes, let me comfort you. So all right, and then
Speaker 1: we have Anthony Dorsey coming on on Threads for a
Speaker 1: factor fiction you wanted to add, saying Turk Barrett will
Speaker 1: return in Daredevil Born Again season two. So uh. The
Speaker 1: Turk was kind of one who kind of had a
Speaker 1: lot of through lines through a number of the Death
Speaker 1: Enders series, kind of like a you know, a little
Speaker 1: down on his luck crew member and things like that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, uh I want it. So yeah, he because
Speaker 3: he he was, he was the lynchpin. He's the anchor
Speaker 3: point of the Defenders universe. It's Turk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, the Turk is there. I do
Speaker 1: like this new person coming into the chat. I Marvel
Speaker 1: was a dud and n y CC. DC crushed it
Speaker 1: this year with Vertigo. Well, yes, on the comic side,
Speaker 1: I will agree with you on that. Marvel didn't have
Speaker 1: too much on the comic side that I got excited about.
Speaker 1: But these DC studios didn't come to really uh and
Speaker 1: and ner comic com But yes, you are right. D
Speaker 1: C Comics crushed it. And when it came to the
Speaker 1: drops and everything like that.
Speaker 3: I feel like to that point, Marvel didn't have to
Speaker 3: crush it in the comics section, and without any real
Speaker 3: anything big coming up, DC had to put on a
Speaker 3: showing with their comics. They had to bring in Ko
Speaker 3: and what's going on with Batman and the bat Family.
Speaker 3: They had to bring in some of their other stuff
Speaker 3: to kind of position themselves in that comic book Realm.
Speaker 1: And and and one of the big things beside Vertico
Speaker 1: coming out and being properly put in there, we get
Speaker 1: the swamp thing issues that have been legendary that have
Speaker 1: been been put into Lord d C Comics is putting
Speaker 1: out the the ending of the run of Ron Vetch's
Speaker 1: where Swamp Thing meets Jesus. That that that that I'm
Speaker 1: telling you telling these are the issues that we've been
Speaker 1: waiting on there. We've we've seen little things, but the
Speaker 1: fact that DC's finally putting it out, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: You can't wait for the conclusion of that. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun. But anyway, there's your GC talk on marble lines,
Speaker 1: all right, so we will I will put those out
Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon. Let your voice to be heard and
Speaker 1: let us get into our com book club with Spider
Speaker 1: Man Life Story the seventies. So we we we left
Speaker 1: off with Gwen finding out that Peter is Spider Man
Speaker 1: when he's on the train station. We we definitely got
Speaker 1: a big flash forward, no pun intended about how we're
Speaker 1: opening this. Uh, you know, years got older, It got
Speaker 1: Gwen with kind of a new haircut. They are married,
Speaker 1: and he's in front of a grave site that he's
Speaker 1: kind of telling everything that's kind of happened since then,
Speaker 1: and it seems to be that flash Thompson has passed
Speaker 1: away and it was it looks to be he might
Speaker 1: have been killed in Action in Vietnam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it while you were reading it, it gave off
Speaker 3: the this is the speech that he would have in
Speaker 3: front of Uncle Binn's grave. But yeah, we cut to Flash.
Speaker 3: We cut to the guilt that he was holding on
Speaker 3: from the first issue about his great power and not
Speaker 3: being there for Flash. So this was a big jump
Speaker 3: yet because we go straight into nineteen seventy seven, like
Speaker 3: and when we did this with Fantastic four it was
Speaker 3: incremental jumps, you know, a couple of years here and there,
Speaker 3: But this is a huge jump forward.
Speaker 1: And also we're not chasing galactis right, remember Galactus is
Speaker 1: coming God forbid. Yeah. In and we see that Peter's
Speaker 1: working with Read Richards with a lot of white on
Speaker 1: his hair, a lot of uh rocking the goatee at
Speaker 1: that point, and Peter's definitely you know, we see doc
Speaker 1: Oc is there and now a reform villain working with
Speaker 1: the Future Foundation and doc Oc being the voice of
Speaker 1: reason to read kind of read kind of you know,
Speaker 1: read being read as their words, and Peter's just thinking,
Speaker 1: why can't we do more? You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Read is even in this version still the not
Speaker 3: looking at humanity through empathetic guys he's he's very he
Speaker 3: has his thought process, he has where his brain's going,
Speaker 3: and that's just it. And the fact that he and
Speaker 3: Peter just keep getting into these ideology back and forth
Speaker 3: and docc is the peacekeeper among the two is just
Speaker 3: it's a dynamic that you didn't see coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But we see Harry visiting Norman in prison and
Speaker 1: just you know, commenting on how he's been leading the company,
Speaker 1: but telling him that he needs to uh, you know
Speaker 1: project the Gemini project is how to control I need
Speaker 1: you to rescue it and the rescue the asset before
Speaker 1: it's lost. He's like, no, I'm not doing this. He
Speaker 1: just listened. It's my life's work. And I've got one
Speaker 1: more secret to tell you. And we're just saying, oh god,
Speaker 1: he's going to tell him about Peter. But we see
Speaker 1: Peter then go meet Gwen at at the lad that
Speaker 1: she's working at with this you know, the uh, the
Speaker 1: very interesting professor Warren and uh, you know we kind
Speaker 1: of know who Warren is in the proper MCU and
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of says, Peter, you should also
Speaker 1: work for us at that point, it'd be great, and
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, that'd be great. You know, getting me,
Speaker 1: pulling in some more money and things like that, and
Speaker 1: just the staring at they have as they walk away
Speaker 1: as a couple, just like, I don't like where this
Speaker 1: is going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some definite if if you know, you know,
Speaker 3: foreshadowing going on here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Peter is making his way, He's gott to
Speaker 1: meet up with MJ. And you know, as Harry's there,
Speaker 1: and you know, MJ's living her best life, dancing, drinking
Speaker 1: and everything, and there's Harry not quieting the uppers and
Speaker 1: downers cowboy. You know, I like how we're kind of
Speaker 1: calling it out that he's you know, they're living their
Speaker 1: seventies life. Yeah, and you know he's he tells m
Speaker 1: J saying, you know, her asked, are you and Harry okay?
Speaker 1: And then them just lights him up, saying, yeah, we're perfect.
Speaker 1: We can't all be like you and Gwen and everything
Speaker 1: like that. Why didn't you you know, maybe it's maybe
Speaker 1: it's like you should have you know, Wallam regrets at
Speaker 1: that point, but you had all this power. You could
Speaker 1: have saved bitch. She called out, you could have saved Flash.
Speaker 1: And he just stops and this is like, uh oh,
Speaker 1: It's like I know, I've known since I was fifteen
Speaker 1: that you were Spider Man, but you decide to spend
Speaker 1: a decade in your own club outfit, playing your own clown,
Speaker 1: convincing yourself. I was like, geez MJ. Wow.
Speaker 3: She went in on him like that was a lot
Speaker 3: of repressed anger and frustration. She lit up to a
Speaker 3: and in the middle of a crowded dance floor at
Speaker 3: Studio fifty four at that So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we flashed back to Peter looking kind of rough,
Speaker 1: going in early to uh work with with with Reid
Speaker 1: at that point, and he even goes off on Reid
Speaker 1: and Peter does not not, you know, making great about
Speaker 1: anything at that point. And this is where Landsay says,
Speaker 1: so you're you're not You're so not human naughty that
Speaker 1: even your wife left you for a man who lives
Speaker 1: under the theme bam. He said. Even my spider sentence
Speaker 1: knew it was coming, and I just let him have
Speaker 1: that one least I could do.
Speaker 3: Yet, you know what, Peter deserved that hit, Like, oh
Speaker 3: yeah he did. Yeah, we're both making some points, but Peter,
Speaker 3: you you earned that now. I will say I thought
Speaker 3: that the way that Reid responded with some of his
Speaker 3: points when he was breaking down. Yeah, I could solve
Speaker 3: the problem of not enough people having clothes, and then
Speaker 3: I ruin a multi billion dollar clothing industry and people
Speaker 3: are out of jobs.
Speaker 1: Read actually making sense, and that's that's what he say,
Speaker 1: Like I can't play god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that that that was a moment right there.
Speaker 3: That kind of puts certain things in perspective of, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't just invent this and make this thing go away,
Speaker 3: because if I do, then how many people in the
Speaker 3: textile industry are out of a job, how many people
Speaker 3: in this arena are out of a job, and things
Speaker 3: like that. So that that made a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Peter had tried to get his words off
Speaker 3: and he deservedly so got that slap across the face.
Speaker 1: Consequences coming. So we flashed to Harry waking up, say
Speaker 1: I have a good time. MJ's like yeah, and he says,
Speaker 1: were a stupid It said, not you, it was Peter.
Speaker 1: Peter made some comments I'll talk to him later, and
Speaker 1: it looks like Norman calls him he his dad. Of course,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, and like Peter's beating himself up, and it's
Speaker 1: interesting kind of this suit. It's kind of got these
Speaker 1: kind of metal like kind of gauntlets and protections there.
Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting. When I read, I was like,
Speaker 1: where did those all of a sudden come from? And
Speaker 1: then we flashed to the Gwen and at her job,
Speaker 1: and then we get we get a busting through. The
Speaker 1: Black Goblin comes in and I was like, okay, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's a choice. And Peter Spider Man fights them
Speaker 1: and I'll show what you're looking for, just blowing up stuff,
Speaker 1: and the bomb reveals that.
Speaker 3: Miles Warren is at it again yep.
Speaker 1: And Professor Warren is there's a there's Peter body, there's
Speaker 1: a Norman body, he's gi Me a hairy body, and
Speaker 1: there's a Gwen body. And he was like, you were
Speaker 1: supposed to just be my father? Why the other two
Speaker 1: says I. He wanted a clone of himself to pin
Speaker 1: his crimes on, but he also wanted one of Peter.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why, but why me if Peter Parker?
Speaker 1: He wanted Peter to be his heir, even after all
Speaker 1: this time, and it's always about you. So they get
Speaker 1: a big fight going on, and when suddenly realized, oh,
Speaker 1: he warns it, I wanted him all to my art,
Speaker 1: you all to myself. At that point, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're getting real creepy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: That that took a turn for a mentor mentee relationship
Speaker 4: when he was saying I made a clone because the
Speaker 4: clone was supposed to stick around, and I was going
Speaker 4: to take the real one to be with me, which
Speaker 4: is not something you really hear in these situations.
Speaker 3: A lot of times people like take the clone because
Speaker 3: they can mold their thoughts. He's like, no, I want
Speaker 3: the real thing. I was going to leave Peter with
Speaker 3: the clone. I want the real one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so when Peter and Harry are fighting, he says,
Speaker 1: I put him away before he could hurt anyone, but
Speaker 1: he's still hurting people. You me, now, Gwen through the
Speaker 1: professor with that abomination. Don't give him that power, he says, Pete,
Speaker 1: he just gets in my head. He says, no more is.
Speaker 1: He throw some pumpkin bombs in there and blows them up,
Speaker 1: and Warren goes, no, no, no, he said, and Gwen says,
Speaker 1: you gotta save him. There are clones, but their living beings.
Speaker 1: He's on it looks like he goes in and sees
Speaker 1: basically Glass is already killed, killed Norman, and Gwen didn't
Speaker 1: look like he made it, but the Peter clone is
Speaker 1: still alive. And then Professor just loses his mind and
Speaker 1: like you said, like I wanted Gwen all to myself,
Speaker 1: no substitutes. What do you mean you would never know
Speaker 1: that your wife was a clone while I held on
Speaker 1: to my Gwendolen until we could leave together. And he's
Speaker 1: like no, and realizing that at some point his Gwen
Speaker 1: was replaced and he was with a clone, and it
Speaker 1: just goes to black. And we go a year later
Speaker 1: and we see, you know, now this Peter the clone,
Speaker 1: Peter ak going Ben and now the Gwen clone who
Speaker 1: Peter's been with now going off into their memories and
Speaker 1: wanting a second chance, Ben and Helen Parker and they
Speaker 1: go off and MJ comes up says, I get that
Speaker 1: you couldn't see them again, but I think they'll be okay.
Speaker 1: He says, yeah, they get a life, they get a
Speaker 1: new life. Where's my life? Like I've it's not I
Speaker 1: have nothing. Everything was a lie And he just left
Speaker 1: hugging MJ and MJ actually trying to be consoling and
Speaker 1: just like, I mean, Peter, that is that is a
Speaker 1: way like hard ending. He has literally entire life is
Speaker 1: just ended up. Literally, like everything that he's built around
Speaker 1: during those years, you know, just gone. At one point question, yeah,
Speaker 1: when was Gwen replaced?
Speaker 3: Yeah, best friend's gone, his girl's gone, even though Harry's gone.
Speaker 3: He even says that Harry left MJ with millions, so
Speaker 3: she's set for life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The only one who's left broken is Peter, and all
Speaker 3: he's tried to do is do right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And if jacksonying agreed, MJ went off the handle.
Speaker 1: Holy smokes, Tiger. That wasn't the jackpot you were expecting.
Speaker 1: Very good, very good. But yeah, so we will head
Speaker 1: into the eighties and Secret Wars next the next time
Speaker 1: we are back. And but yeah, so Chalky Episode of
Speaker 1: Building Volume two seventy five to a close. So, as always,
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Speaker 1: man would say, excelsior true Believers. All right, David, what
Speaker 1: have we got for post credits discussion?
Speaker 3: Okay, So I've had two people ask me about this.
Speaker 3: Latest one was Brent today, and I read somewhere else
Speaker 3: about this, but I haven't been able to lock it down.
Speaker 3: There have been unconfirmed reports that Joe Pentaliono, who played
Speaker 3: Ben or Kant Joey, he played Ben Urick in Afflex Daredevil,
Speaker 3: we'll have a role in wonder Man. We've already seen
Speaker 3: the likes of Chris Evans and Michael B. Jordan get
Speaker 3: a second shot at a Marvel character. And we've had
Speaker 3: some other people who have gotten a second shot at
Speaker 3: going from a no name character here, a low level
Speaker 3: character there, to something more major. With that being said,
Speaker 3: who would you like to see get another shot at
Speaker 3: a Marvel character?
Speaker 1: I took a little bit to think about this one,
Speaker 1: but I finally came upon it, and I would say,
Speaker 1: Michael Fastbender. I would like to see him get another shot,
Speaker 1: you know, playing magnificently Magneto in the First Class series.
Speaker 1: I think I love him as an actor. I think
Speaker 1: he would find a I don't know what kind of
Speaker 1: part right now, but I like him as an actor
Speaker 1: and I think he could get a another life in
Speaker 1: the MCU as someone not Magneto.
Speaker 3: Yes, that that's a great shot. I absolutely love him
Speaker 3: as well. My thought process with this is, and I
Speaker 3: hate to bring up the movie Morbius, Matt Smith is
Speaker 3: the best part of that movie. Yes, Matt Smith is
Speaker 3: absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1: And I had two those man moves on moves.
Speaker 3: I had two thought processes here, one more realistic and
Speaker 3: one is just tying in my other nerddom to it.
Speaker 3: So the more realistic one is I don't think that
Speaker 3: they would bring back any version of Green Goblin after
Speaker 3: everything that has happened. But I do think Matt Smith
Speaker 3: could play a good version of Robert Kingsley's Hobgoblin if
Speaker 3: they decide not to go the net route. So if
Speaker 3: they don't go that route with Spider Man and they
Speaker 3: bring in Hobgoblin, I think that just the way that
Speaker 3: he talks, his cadences, laugh, everything else, he could pull
Speaker 3: off that Hobgoblin role. The other role that I would
Speaker 3: be okay with him playing is Son of the Purple Man.
Speaker 3: And just because he already he already replaced David Tennant
Speaker 3: once do it.
Speaker 1: Again, Well, it can't get anywhere on those of that.
Speaker 1: So but all right, well we will see you next time.
Speaker 1: I would say, see, we'll hopefully see you next week.
Speaker 1: But you never know with Marvel these days, whether they
Speaker 1: want to give us news or not. Now that we've
Speaker 1: pushed off, we pushed off wondermental next year. We're just
Speaker 1: gonna have to see from week to week what news
Speaker 1: are gonna drop. But as you always know, we'll plan
Speaker 1: on being here next week and whenever they drop the news,
Speaker 1: and we'll see you real soon and again, see you
Speaker 1: next time. Go bye, see you,