Speaker 1: Let's go places, come back to the Epstein chronicles. Today,
proceedings inside of the courtroom were cut short after one
of the prosecutors came down with some kind of illness. Now,
Judge Nathan says that the illness was not COVID related
and that they will resume with proceedings tomorrow. So what
I thought we would do today is go back to
the vault and pull out an article that talks about
how the media, the legacy media, whitewashed this whole entire
story until Julie Brown came around. And I saw a
lot of media types today being indignant talking about how, oh,
there is so much coverage of this Galolean Maxwell trial.
And I've heard people parrot that same stuff. But you're
not going to gaslight me. I know what I see
in front of my face. I know what's on the TV. Look.
For instance, I very rarely watch the cable news stations
very rarely, and if I ever do, it just happens
to be I'm in passing and I might stop on
one to see what kind of nonsense is being spit
out of their mouths. But today I went there on purpose,
right after I saw all the indignant journalist types complaining
that people were saying that there wasn't as much wall
to wall coverage of this trial as there were four
cases such as Writtenhouse or even when Gabby Patito was missing.
So when I went to CNN, Today, MSNBC, and Fox,
they were all playing the same exact thing, Bob Dole
lying in, stayed at the Capitol. And now, no disrespect
to mister Bob Dole, but do we really need all
three major news stations broadcasting the same exact thing some
guy playing the bagpipes or whatever. I don't think people
are understanding what wall the wall coverage is. Wall the
wall coverage means, wall the wall coverage, all of these
talk shows on TV panels, experts coming in and out
discussing things, prosecutors, ex prosecutors, FBI agents, you know, like
they do for all of these other cases that move
the political needle. Now, on the flip side of that,
I won't sit here and act like nobody's covering this
or like there's no journalists on the ground covering it.
That's not the case. There certainly is, and there's a
lot of people doing really good work. But to act
like this is getting wall the wall coverage. That's that's disinformation.
We all know what wall the wall coverage is. And
if that was the case, and this was wall the
wall coverage, it would be on every single station. There
would be fifteen to twenty minute segments on all of
these talk shows about it. Well, you don't see that.
So now when we talk about the print media, the
print media has covered this case, there's no doubt about that,
but it hasn't been the big outlets. It hasn't been
the so called legacy media. In fact, like we're going
to hear in this article, the legacy media was busy
whitewashing the whole entire Jeffrey at Epstein escapade for years
and years and years and years. So now that the
trial is here, they're going to show up and start
patting themselves on the back like they've been the vanguard.
Just ask the survivors themselves what they feel about the
legacy media. And again, don't get it twisted. I'm not
talking about the actual reporters for the most part, who
are trying to put these stories together and bring the news.
I'm talking about the decisions that are being made in
editorial rooms and by these absolute moron who are in
control of these news stations. Is it not obvious what
they try to do, what they're attempting to do every
single time they have one of these, you know, big
stories that they latch onto. But yet when there's a
story like this Epstein, Maxwell, there's no interest in them
digging deep. And then you have people like the jurors
or some of you or just stumbling upon this story
just recently. Don't you feel like the legacy media failed you.
Isn't it their job to provide information about what's going
on in the world that's impactful to you. You would
think that that's what they should be doing, right, But
that's not the case a lot of times. And as
we all know, the narrative basically is controlled by a
handful of people, and for these people, it's all about
what kind of clicks they can get, and the best
thing for them is divisiveness. Keep pumping out that rage porn,
and meanwhile they're neglecting to educate people on very important
stories such as this. So since we don't have anything
to really go over as far as transcripts, or there's
not even any really news to get to as far
as updates of things that we might have missed, so
I thought that we would jump into this article instead.
And this article is from two thousand and nineteen and
it's from the Guardian. The author is Ed Pilkington. Headline
Jeffrey Epstein, how the US media, with one star exception,
whitewashed the story. When Julie K. Brown of the Miami
Herald approached a former police chief of Palm Beach, Florida
in two thousand and seven, hoping to get him to
open up about his investigation of the child sex crimes
for which the wealthy financier pedophile Jeffrey Epstein had been
fleetingly jailed a decade earlier. She was surprised by how
unresponsive he was. Well, when you have dealt with the
nonsense that Michael Ryder dealt with, when you have dealt
with a legacy media that doesn't have the courage to
go after somebody like Epstein, of course you're going to
be a bit hesitant to deal with somebody coming to
you from the legacy media. Michael Ryder told Brown he
had been down this road many times and was sick
of it. As Brown recalled in a WNYC interview last month,
Ryder said he had talked to many reporters and told
them precisely where to find damning evidence against Epstein, but
nothing ever came of it. He was convinced that a
lot of media had squashed the story, and he is
fed up. She said, so again, Look, this is not
me telling you this, right, and that's why I use
these articles when we have these discussions, so you know
I'm not just sitting here making up some wild nonsense.
The fact of the matter is the people who were
involved in this, people like Michael Ryder have said this
over and over again that the legacy media had zero
interest in diving in here. And that's a tragedy, isn't it,
Because if they would have done their job right, if
they would have listened, the voices were there, the stories
were there, but they didn't have the willpower. And a
lot of that, again has to do with the scumbags
who are running these editorial rooms, the people who are
making these decisions at the top, And who do you
think that they're palaing around with at the country club.
They're paling around with people like Jeffrey Epstein, So why
would they want stories or why would they want to
run stories of about their friends writer Warren Brown, that
what would happen were she to continue digging, somebody is
going to call your publisher and the next thing you know,
you are going to be assigned to the obituaries department.
And that's was the the mo right, That's what these
guys were up to. Anytime there was any digging into
Jeffrey Epstein or his behavior, he would respond by hiring
security to go after you. In fact, he had security,
private private investigators going through the trash of the police.
Even so when we talk about this runs deep, this
isn't you know, just that's not hyperbole, right, This is
a guy who really had no boundaries when it came
to keeping his activities out of the public eye, and
he was never, ever, ever above trying to intimidate and
threaten people. Brown did not heed his warning. She flung
herself at the investigation and eventually persuaded Ryder to go
on record. Her resulting award winning three part series last
November exposed a vast operation in which eighty potential victims
survivors were identified, some as young as thirteen and fourteen
at the time of the alleged abuse. She persuaded eight
to tell their stories. Now, think about that, all right?
Eighty just eighty from this one expose that Julie K.
Brown did. One lady right, one fantastic reporter who you know,
dug deep here and got this story out there for
people to see. But one person. You mean to tell
me that the New York Times, the Washington Post, et cetera,
et cetera couldn't have ponied up resources to dig deeper here.
This has ever everything that they usually love, salaciousness, politicians, celebrities,
you name it, the story has it. So again, I
have to ask myself, and I'll ask you, why wasn't
the big dogs in the legacy media willing to go hard?
Brown also exposed a government cover up in which Epstein
got away with an exceptionally light sentence that saw him
serve only thirteen months in jail. She discovered that a
non prosecution agreement had been negotiated secretly in two thousand
and eight, then by the then top federal prosecutor in Miami,
Alexandra Acosta, that gave Epstein and his co conspirators immunity
from federal prosecutor, from federal prosecution. And to add a
little more context there, sure it was Acosta who was
the man on the ground, right, he was the quote
unquote point man. But do you really think that had
some attorney, federal attorney prosecutor from Florida, from Miami, has
the ability to push this kind of prosecution on his own,
this kind of indictment when you have somebody who has
the ties that Epstein had and obviously the friends that
Epstein had, of course not so Alexander Acosta, spineless worm
that he is, was certainly the fall guy here when
in reality, why weren't all eyes moved to Mukeesi who
was the acting Attorney General at the time. His office
had to sign off on this, and then when you
go look at the paperwork, it shows you exactly who
signed off on it. So it wasn't just a costa
in a vacuum making this decision, right, But there's no
doubt that he was a spineless worm. And if you
had this kind of information in front of you, and
your bosses from DC were pressuring you to not go
after them federally and instead punk the ball to the state,
which never happens in cases like this for the most part,
wouldn't you say to your bosses, screw you. I'm going
to become a whistleblower. At this point, we're not you know,
we're talking about the most heinous of crimes, thirteen and
fourteen year old kids. And then this guy gets this
kind of immunity deal. And then it comes out later
on that during this time where the negotiation between Acosta
and Epstein's lawyers is going on about this immunity deal,
well a year's worth of those emails just happened to disappear,
just added to the coincidence box, just like the evidence
from the first alleged suicide attempt at Epstein, just like
the videos. Just coincidences, right, That's all it is. In
twenty seventeen, Acosta was appointed by Donald Trump as Labor Secretary,
a post that ironically is responsible for combating second trafficking.
So again, Acosta, worm spineless, should have never been in
that position because he obviously showed that he was a
coward when he didn't stand up to Mukasey and the
Department of Justice when they try to make him punt
this ball away and serve it up to Krisher instead.
So he is another coward, right, and he shouldn't be
in a position that deals with human trafficking. The media
is handling or mishandling of The Epstein affair is a
story of extremes. It is a heartwarming success story of
how one intrepid reporter pierced the veil of secrecy and
found the truth. Brown's coverage has had consequences. Epstein was
arrested remember this is from twenty nineteen last Saturday, and
indicted on new sex trafficking charges by New York prosecutors
who praised her work. In the fallout, Acosta was forced
to resign. And now we know all of the other
people who have fallen in the wake of this, at
least professionally speaking for some of them, Glenn Dubin, Les Wexner,
Leon Black, Prince Andrew We know that obviously Glenn Maxwell's
on trial, Jean Luke Brunell is rotting away in a
jail and of Paris as we speak. So there definitely
has been some fallout here. But don't you question how
it took Julie Brown to do this. The investigators in
New York, they had a meeting in twenty sixteen with
some of the survivors and the lawyers. They declined to
pursue charges. Then even but all of a sudden, Julie K.
Brown has this story, breaks this story, and now they're interested.
Now the prosecutors are praising her work. You guys have
had a mountain of evidence as high as Mount Everest
that at least started when Maria Farmer called you clowns
and told you what was going on, and none of
you wanted to listen. So again, great job by Julie K. Brown.
One of those you know jobs that I was talking
about earlier, one of those people who actually was on
the ground doing journalist work. Right now, the rest of
these clowns in the legacy media, they had access to
all of this, especially the ones in New York. The
ones in New York are they cracked me up the most.
They're supposed to be at the epicenter of information, the
epicenter of the world of information, and they want us
to believe that they had just overlooked what was going
on with Epstein. They just missed all of this. You
know what, lies of a mission are still lies. But
there is also a less cheerful narrative. Why do the
police chiefs appeals to the media fall on deaf ears?
Why would so many years pass before the shocking extent
of Epstein's crimes and the costa sweetheart deal. Muchesi and
acosta sweetheart deal were revealed by a local newspaper with
severely limited resources. And again I ask you where the
New York Times, Where was the Washington Post, Where was
the La Times, the Chicago Times, any of these outlets
with a tremendous amount of resources. None of them were around.
In fact, the two extremes of the story are directly linked.
Brown told w NYC one of the reasons she began
looking into Epstein was that she was puzzled about the
public silence surrounding him. There really was nobody pursuing this
at all, she said. That was one of the things
that intrigued me about this case. Why isn't anyone standing
up and screaming facts? And it's one of the main
reasons that I got interested in it as well. When
you look at it, not only is it the absolute
depravity that was showed by Epstein and his friends towards
the treatment of these girls, but the way the government
conducted themselves and the way the FBI conducted themselves. For me,
that's what got me interested in this case. Originally, was
the government malfeasance that was obviously taking place. That silence
stretches all the way back to two thousand and three,
when Vicky Ward wrote a profile of Epstein for Vanity Fair.
During her reporting, she was introduced to a mother and
her two daughters from Phoenix, Arizona, who alleged Epstein assaulted
the girls, one of whom was sixteen at the time.
Ward told The Guardian she spent a lot of time
with the family discussing whether they should go public. They
were frightened, she said. The mother told me that every
night when she walked the dog, she looked over the shoulder,
over her shoulder. Eventually the women agreed to go on record,
Ward said, and when Epstein was told about their accounts,
he went berserk. Epstein had already threatened to get a
witch doctor to put a curse on wards on unborn children. Again,
this isn't fantasyland. This is the kind of shit Jeffrey
Epstein was into. It is a very weird dude, folks,
a very weird dude. She was pregnant at the time
with twins. And now we can't paign to stop Vanity
Fair publishing the allegations. Even turning up unannounced at the
office of the then editor Graydon Carter. Publication was delayed.
Then Ward was told paragraphs of the abuse of the
women had to be deleted. And again right there, that
should stop you in your tracks. What sort of journalist
does that? Oh, you're gonna lose your job? Who cares?
I mean, really, you go find another job. You bring
your story to another editor and I'm sure they'll run it,
but instead decides to go along, get along, to go along,
so you can, you know, continue to climb that ladder
of success, right of personal and professional success. Doesn't matter
that girls were being abused, doesn't matter that the people
that they're talking about here were living in fear of
their lives, as long as you still got a job. Right.
I was extraordinarily upset, she said. I asked the woman
what they were doing, what they were going to do,
and they said they would lick their wounds and retreat,
as this was exactly what they feared would happen. Should
that ever be the case, ask yourselves that should we
have a legacy media where a guy like Jeffrey Epstein
is moving the dial like that? And if you think
he's the only one you are sorely mistaken. It is
absurd that this story wasn't told for this long. Ward
believes Carter caved under Epstein's pressure. She recalls confronting the
editor about the excised paragraphs and said she has a
note in our archives that has Carter saying, I believe them.
I'm Canadian. So it comes down to uh, he said,
she said, right, And I'm sure what Vicky would say
is well, he was the editor and that's fine, and
I dig that I can okay, perfect, But are you
working there as an indentured servant. You can't bring your
story elsewhere? And that's really the rub for me. You know,
there's always a choice, right, and sometimes it's a shit choice.
Sometimes it's a choice that might come with a lot
of personal sacrifice or professional steps back. But at what
point do you say to yourself, not only do I
have to respect my craft as a journalist, but I
have to respect these girls who are abused. And as
a reporter, the onus is on me to report this.
And I think way too many of these folks have
forgotten that. Way too many of these folks that are
in the legacy media, they want to be the story.
And I guess that comes with that hefty, hefty salary
that all of them are getting to sit around and
read off teleprompters. Carter remembers events very differently. In his account,
there were legal issues around the women's stories that prevented publication,
most significantly significantly, that the women themselves were unwilling to
go on the record. Yeah, since that really matters now, Huh.
How many nameless sources have we seen in the past
five six years? And I'm talking huge blockbuster stories. Whole
entire narratives have been framed around anonymous sources. We bitch
as Graydon Carter too scared to go for the go
for the kill here, too scared to run this story.
We all know why they were running in the same circles.
They had the same homies. One quick phone call, Hey,
you know what, We'll make sure this goes away, Old Jeffy,
old boy, don't worry. Make sure I can come to
your next Edge dinner. In a statement to The Guardian,
Carter said I respected the work Vicky Ward did at
Vanity Fair, but unfortunately her recounting of the facts around
the Epstein article is inaccurate. There were not three sources
on the record, and therefore this aspect of the story
did not meet our legal and editorial standards. Oh that's
such bullshit. Wow. We could go through literally one hundred
and fifty stories at this point of gigantic international and
national narratives that have been crafted by people who wouldn't
go on the record. But now what it has to
do with Jeffrey Epstein and a story of sexual abuse.
Now it's you know, we can't go off the record here.
It's legitimately laughable, and they wonder why nobody trusts them.
Ward says she had document documentary evidence that shows the
women were emphatically prepared to go public, including fact checkers
and legal emails to Epstein from Vanity Fair asking for
his response to the allegations made by both sisters. The
Guardian spoke to the mother of the girls, Janie Farmer.
She said that all three did speak to Ward in
two thousand and three and told her on the record
what Epstein had done, including allegations he had invited her
youngest daughter, then sixteen, to his new Mexico ranch and
molested her. And now we're obviously talking about Maria Farmer
and Annie Farmer. We're gonna hear from Annie Farmer tomorrow.
She's going to give testimony. But Julie, I mean, Vicky
Ward really did the Farmer sisters wrong and dirty, and
to be honest with you, it's straight trash. So I mean,
she could say whatever she wants, but this is a
matter of public record, right, this is something that happened.
She had the story. Let's look at the facts. Okay,
you add the story, Vicky Ward, you and your company
decided not to run it. Those are the facts. All
of the other stuff, well, words are wind. Okay. I
was hesitant to go public because I worried about the
safety of my daughters. By that point, I didn't trust
Jeffrey at all, Farmer said, But I did want him
to be exposed. She said she recalls vividly agreeing with
Ward along with her daughters, for their stories to be
told in her Vanity Fair profile. She also said she
recalls vividly her reaction when she learned that part of
the piece was not to be published. I felt angry,
she said. I felt like Jeffrey's money, power, connections, whatever
had been put into play. Eh. No, no shit, that's
exactly what happens. That's what they do. And over and
over and over again. The men of always continue to
have their foot on the throat of the children of never.
There is another complicating element to the story. In two
thousand and eleven, after Epstein had gone to jail, Ward
wrote a blog post for Vanity Fair. In it, she
used language that was strikingly uncritical of Epstein, referring to
him as not without humor and praising him for being
highly knowledgeable. She referenced Epstein's sex crimes as sexual peccadillos
and referred to her two thousand and three Vanity Fair
profile of him, saying it had alluded to his sexual
relationships with young women, but didn't really go there, focusing
on instead on how Jeffrey made his money breaking news.
You did his shitty job at that too. Nobody knows
how Epstein really made his money, And you clowns in
the legacy media. You ain't doing anyone any favors unearthing anything.
So Vicky Ward's whole shtick is bs folks, all right,
that's just the way it goes. Just the facts, you know,
And all you do is read what she says her
own words. Epstein's crimes were sexual peccadillos. That's what you
call assaulting young girls and saying it was prostitution. Those
are sexual peccadillos to you. Huh boy, We certainly live
in way two different worlds. The piece went on, this
is not to say I didn't hear stories about the girls.
I did, but not knowing quite whom to believe, I
concentrated on the intriguing financial mystery instead, so basically saying
that she didn't believe the Farmers. And the evidence for
that is the story wasn't run. So let's just get
down to it, right, Let's trim the fat. We don't
need all the bs. The facts are the facts, and
that's what they are. And Vicky Orr decided not to run,
not to run the story, her and Graydon Carter. And
then when you know, it came out that Epstein was
this sick bastard that they obviously knew. Oh well, it
wasn't my fault. Well it wasn't my fault. It's nobody's fault, folks,
just the way it goes, nobody's ever going to be
held responsible here. Put this blog post toward and she
said she regretted writing it. At that point, she said
the victims she had interviewed were not willing to talk.
But nonetheless, this blog did not need to be written. Here,
I am towing the Vanity Fair party line and again
not taking responsibility. Oh it's the Vanity Fair party line. Well,
you're the one towing it. You're the one's been towing
it for years. They've been paying your bills, haven't they.
But you know, I guess when it comes to stuff
like this, it's more important to make sure you're locked
and loaded and got your job a safe at Vanity Fair.
My journalism benefited from hashtag me too. Fast forward to
two thousand and seven, when Acosta reached his bizarrely lenient
plea deal with Epstein. Let's say, when the Department of
Justice did. Okay, let's be honest. By then, the investigators
had identified thirty five potential victims who said they had
been lured into Epstein's Palm Beach mansion and sexually assaulted.
Yet records obtained by the Miami Herald showed prosecutors, led
by Acosta, actively worked with Epstein's attorneys to minimize media coverage,
and they were good at it. Right look, Jay Lefkowitz
Alan Dershowitz, Ken Starr, several other people, and we're talking
about some of the most high profile lawyers in the world.
Jay Lefkowitz is very good at what he does, one
of Acosta's prosecutors. One of Acosta's prosecutors wrote in an
email to Jay Lefkowitz and Epstein lawyer on and avoid
the press. Note, I can file the charge in district
court in Miami, which will hopefully cut the press coverage significantly.
Do you want to check that out? That's what the
prosecutor for Acosta wrote to Lefkowitz, Epstein's lawyer, running it
by him. You want to check that out? Like he
has an option? Do you think me or you would
have an option if we were being prosecuted. Yeah, Now
there's no malfeasance here, man. The government was right online.
Anybody questioning the institutions in this country is crazy. You
conspiracy theorist. Anyone who's saying that, anyone who's saying well,
I don't know how people question the institutions. I don't
trust anything they have to say. They were probably the
same people that are still trying to peddle that there
were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. That a Costa
felt that he had to resign on Friday was an
indication that the collective failure of US media to grapple
with the story of serial sex trafficking and abuse that
had been hiding in plain sight for years no longer
holds true. In the wake of Brown's exemplary reporting, the
rest of the American media has fallen in line, and
the Costa paid the price. Look, no, I guess what
he paid the price for his own actions. Now he
is somebody who is a small part of this, right,
a small player. They focused on them because the media
at that time it was politically expedient, But they didn't
go any deeper. Right, did they tell you about Mukasey?
Did they tell you about the Department of Justice and
their meddling as far as this prosecution goes. Nah, they
didn't tell you any of that, did they. That may
be in part thanks to the me Too movement that
had not erupted when Brown began her investigation, but did
draw attention to her work when it was published. As
she told MSNBC after Epstein's arrest last weekend, my journalism
benefited from me Too as we started giving these case
is much more scrutiny. Mary Angela Bach, Associate professor in
the University of Texas at Austin School of Journalism, said
hashtag me too had dented the prevailing patriarchy that had
existed in newsrooms for decades and that had led to
sexual crimes being overlooked as merely the way of the world.
Me too has led to greater awareness among journalists that
this is not okay, she said, This is not boys
being boys. This is rape and sexual exploitation of children.
So we're gonna give them a pass right because they
just they were just ignorant up to that point. Sorry,
not gonna do it. They all knew what was going on.
George Stepanopolis, Katie Kirk, Mike Wallace, Charlie Rose, and that's
just a few of them, all going over to Epstein's
for a little bit of chow, little party, to hang
out with the prince. Meanwhile, you got outlets like Vanity
Fair who buried this story, other outlets that had no
desire in covering it, and now some of these very
same outlets are showing up like they're the ones who are,
you know, the saviors of the story. Meanwhile, I'm just
sitting back, taking it all in and shaking my head
as these knuckleheads continue to expose themselves. All right, folks,
that's gonna do it for this episode. So tomorrow morning
we'll be right back at it, you know, getting ready
for the day, discussing what might be coming next, taking
a look at some of the headlines that might have
cracked off overnight, and we will buckle our seat belts
and see where the prosecution goes in what looks like
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