Speaker 1: This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 1: American way is that government has some basic functions, right,
Speaker 1: and it's grown way too large, way too out of control,
Speaker 1: but it has basic functions we can all agree on.
Speaker 1: You know, government has that responsibility to take those basic
Speaker 1: steps to keep people safe when only government can protect
Speaker 1: people in certain ways, and then beyond that, it's up
Speaker 1: to each of us.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But but we have a Democratic party in Colorado which
Speaker 1: seems absolutely determined, absolutely determined to make innocent citizens of
Speaker 1: this state as unsafe as possible. And it continues day
Speaker 1: after day afterday, and we'll talk about the latest examples today.
Speaker 1: Glad you are here because we just don't curse the darkness,
Speaker 1: and there's plenty that curse. But we light candles and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about some of those who are trying to
Speaker 1: light right now. Eight five five four zero five A
Speaker 1: two five five the number worst number for we hope
Speaker 1: the best show on radio. No offense, Ryan, who was
Speaker 1: a tremendous show two to four each day on six
Speaker 1: thirty kitch a w in the Denver market. Did we
Speaker 1: talk about just like getting a three oh three number?
Speaker 1: But we had five four zero five eight two five five.
Speaker 1: Nobody can remember that, nobody can write it down. How
Speaker 1: is that any different than the three oh three. I
Speaker 1: don't understand, because everybody knows three oh three eight five
Speaker 1: five could be eight sixty six eight eight eight, And
Speaker 1: then somebody calls and they've got some sex line. No,
Speaker 1: just give me a three to oh three. Okay, have
Speaker 1: you ever done that? Have you ever like misdialed the
Speaker 1: number and then hit one of those things?
Speaker 3: I've gotten some strange ones, but nothing like that can Lurida,
Speaker 3: but we do, we have had in the past, we
Speaker 3: currently have in the present a three tozho three.
Speaker 4: Number that people can dial.
Speaker 3: We could switch back over to that if you want, Dan,
Speaker 3: there's nothing preventing us from doing that.
Speaker 1: Your name's on the show. I really think we should
Speaker 1: let's talk about that, because it's eight five to five,
Speaker 1: and I understand. Listen, we're blessed to be syndicated, so
Speaker 1: you know we're spread around the place. But these days
Speaker 1: nobody has to pay long distance for anything. Right that
Speaker 1: that was like a Flintstone era thing, right, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it was before you were born.
Speaker 3: So so, Kelly, the three to zho three number that
Speaker 3: the Martino Show uses would go to the same lines.
Speaker 1: Right, Uh, it does. It would be a great honor.
Speaker 1: I should know that number two because I used to
Speaker 1: do that, and that number is Kelly three oh three,
Speaker 1: Martino three oh three. I don't think six. That's a
Speaker 1: terrible number. No, no, well we'll do this off here,
Speaker 1: but thank you, thank you for your billingness to improve
Speaker 1: the process here. Okay, but you know, it's fascinating me
Speaker 1: as a guy who's been in radio for somewhere around
Speaker 1: three decades give or take, is just so many shows
Speaker 1: now have shifted to text. I saw you getting a
Speaker 1: little abuse on the text line. Do you take calls
Speaker 1: or are you all texts?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: That's a good question to put you on this I
Speaker 1: take Is this a sore point?
Speaker 3: I'm about to explain, I'm sorry, I take only text,
Speaker 3: and that's only because I've had some instability.
Speaker 1: Shall we say in.
Speaker 3: The post that I represent for you? We have a
Speaker 3: new hire. He's great, His named Zach Seekers.
Speaker 1: Okay, wonderful.
Speaker 3: That can't do all five days, and so Jesse Thomas
Speaker 3: during the winter months can do it.
Speaker 1: But then he's gonna have spring training. So it's a
Speaker 1: screener issue.
Speaker 3: I think so, because you don't have a consistency on
Speaker 3: that front.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, that is a real challenge. I mean Ryan,
Speaker 1: if you ever met Ryan in person, you know, people
Speaker 1: ask about the anatomical anomaly, right, I mean, it's obvious,
Speaker 1: it's it's a bragging point for you. But Ryan is
Speaker 1: like an octopus. He has how many arms do you have?
Speaker 1: He has five arms. He can answer the phones, he
Speaker 1: can do this, he can do that. Now we're blessed
Speaker 1: with Kelly as a call screener. I was you, he
Speaker 1: just said, I was getting to you. He said, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, Kelly, on those rare days when you're off
Speaker 1: on a beach or something, you know, Ryan's just doing
Speaker 1: it all. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Really, I am very thankful for Kelly's presence here as everyone.
Speaker 1: It makes the trains run on time. Just the aura
Speaker 1: two aura level of production.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you see your boots today?
Speaker 1: Holy crap? I did? Yeah, Wow, Wow, Holy cow. I
Speaker 1: can't tell you last time I saw a pair like that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, really really impressive. Somebody texted me three h
Speaker 1: three someone three eight two five five. See, I remember
Speaker 1: that number rolls off the tongue because I've probably given
Speaker 1: that for one hundred years, like all eight years Craig
Speaker 1: and I did the show together. Three three someone three
Speaker 1: eight two five five. That's it. That's the one. Yeah, right, okay,
Speaker 1: that's a good number. Well, all right, I'm going to
Speaker 1: start doing yeah, and that I will remember because I
Speaker 1: used it for many many and then one yeah, threeal
Speaker 1: three someone three eight two five five and uh, all right,
Speaker 1: we got that done. Wow. Speaking of vibes, the first
Speaker 1: of the Trump nominees who will be confirmed Pete heg Satz,
Speaker 1: And I'm glad they had him go first, right, because
Speaker 1: Trump has all this political capital, goodwill, everything else that
Speaker 1: he's hard earned, and he has a right to have
Speaker 1: the people he wants unless they're just obviously completely unqualified,
Speaker 1: and Pete Hagseeth is not that. So yeah, he's going
Speaker 1: to be confirmed. But we wanted to get you a
Speaker 1: little bit of sound from that, because the left now
Speaker 1: scream therapy is expensive unless you're a remember of the Senate,
Speaker 1: and then you get to do it on the taxpayer's
Speaker 1: dime in these hearings. But it comes in all forms.
Speaker 1: Why don't we kick this one off with Senator Kristin
Speaker 1: Jillibrand of New York. She's still in the Senate.
Speaker 4: She just want again.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, the.
Speaker 5: Women you have denigrated. You have also denigrated members of
Speaker 5: the LGBTQ community. Did you know that when donas don't
Speaker 5: tell was in place, we lost so many crucial personnel,
Speaker 5: over one thousand in mission critical areas.
Speaker 1: We lost ten percent of all our foreign.
Speaker 5: Language speakers because of a political policy. You said in
Speaker 5: your statement you don't want in the DoD Everything you've
Speaker 5: said in these public statements is politics. I don't want women.
Speaker 5: I don't want moms.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with a mom?
Speaker 5: By the way, once you have babies, you therefore are
Speaker 5: no longer able to be lethal. I mean, you're basically
Speaker 5: saying women after they have children can't ever serve in
Speaker 5: the military in a combat role. It's a silly thing
Speaker 5: to say.
Speaker 1: It's a silly thing to say. Beneath the physician that you.
Speaker 5: Are aspiring to to detagrate LGBTQ service members is a mistake.
Speaker 5: If you are a sharpshooter, you're as lethal regardless of
Speaker 5: what your gender identity is, regardless.
Speaker 1: Of who you love.
Speaker 5: So please know this to be a true statement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get it all out, Kristen, better get it all
Speaker 1: out right now. And it's not going to affect pe.
Speaker 1: Do you see he's going to be confirmed eight five
Speaker 1: five for zero five eight two five five the number
Speaker 1: tex d an five seven, seven through nine. You know
Speaker 1: he's in great shape when you know the lead headline
Speaker 1: because it's what six oh five Eastern when our show
Speaker 1: starts here in the Mountain time zone that CNN has
Speaker 1: the best they have in their prime time is seets
Speaker 1: grilled about shifting position on women.
Speaker 6: In combat when that's the best they got. You know,
Speaker 6: you're getting confirmed. And there's one thing and I watched
Speaker 6: almost as an entire hearing. I thought it fascinating then
Speaker 6: for many reasons, one of what you just heard, unfortunately
Speaker 6: kristin Gilibrand. But there are various nuanced positions within combat
Speaker 6: meaning women in combat, meaning front lines, reinforcement level. There's
Speaker 6: some people that are in combat technically, but again it's
Speaker 6: not on the front lines as kind of a backing role.
Speaker 6: So I think it's how you define it.
Speaker 3: And Pete Hegg set the point he was making was
Speaker 3: that he felt standards were being lowered in order to
Speaker 3: accommodate higher numbers of female enlisted members. And I think
Speaker 3: he's right on that point, and this is something that
Speaker 3: I think, to her credit, Senator Joni Ernst was able
Speaker 3: to clarify in her time with Petex.
Speaker 1: Yes, and when am I going to get that ring
Speaker 1: in my nose? So you can kind of lead me around?
Speaker 1: But I do appreciate it, because leave it or not,
Speaker 1: I was going to play that bight next.
Speaker 7: No, it is incredibly important that I stress, and I
Speaker 7: hope that, if confirmed, you continue to stress that every
Speaker 7: man and woman has opportunity to serve their country and
Speaker 7: uniform and do so at any level as long as
Speaker 7: they are meeting the standards that are set forward. And
Speaker 7: we talked about that in my office. I do believe
Speaker 7: in high standards.
Speaker 1: Now, I was.
Speaker 7: Denied the opportunity to serve in any combat role because
Speaker 7: I have a lot of gray hair, and the policy
Speaker 7: has changed since then. Okay, so I've been around for
Speaker 7: quite a while.
Speaker 1: Wait a sec. Because she's talking about the capitalist rule, right,
Speaker 1: and until this nation adopts it. It is a mega
Speaker 1: blind spot. And that rule is it's all about the
Speaker 1: stand and you do not at this point, you do
Speaker 1: not keep people out of combat roles because of the
Speaker 1: number on their driver's license. You know, well, you don't
Speaker 1: keep out of combat roles because of their age. If
Speaker 1: somebody can meet the standards, because we all know how
Speaker 1: dramatically things have changed. You got a lot of guys,
Speaker 1: You got a lot of guys right now in their fifties,
Speaker 1: lord knows, but some in their sixties, you know, who
Speaker 1: have every physical capability and they also have the wisdom
Speaker 1: of the years, etc. And they want to go serve,
Speaker 1: and they want to go serve in combat roles. It's
Speaker 1: a blind spot for this country not to permit it.
Speaker 1: And then when it comes and we'll talk when we
Speaker 1: come back, as we play more of this excess sound
Speaker 1: about women in combat? What I'd like to do, because
Speaker 1: I've never served, I would love to hear. I would
Speaker 1: love to hear from people who have served, you know, male, female,
Speaker 1: what you think about women in these combat positions? Because
Speaker 1: me just sitting here, it's easy to say, and I
Speaker 1: do believe it's all about the standard but if you've
Speaker 1: been there, if you've been in these combat situations, maybe
Speaker 1: most recently in Iraq, if a stand whatever is a
Speaker 1: practical matter, can that work out. I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: logistically mechanically. I don't think anybody does that. Women would
Speaker 1: be superb the right woman right, just like the right
Speaker 1: guy in a combat role. But as a practical logistical matter,
Speaker 1: can it work in the field? Can it work on
Speaker 1: the battlefield? You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Just singing at the inauguration. She's singing America the Beautiful.
Speaker 1: I believe that's wonderful. Can you imagine how good that's
Speaker 1: going to be. It's gonna be phenomenal. I'm so glad she's
Speaker 1: doing it.
Speaker 3: But she is getting some backlash from fans and trolls
Speaker 3: on Instagram and the socials.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, some trolls. Maybe she wouldn't get
Speaker 1: any backlash from any true fan. But at this point,
Speaker 1: isn't this fun to watch? Ryan Yes said that there
Speaker 1: is so, but there's so much less of it now,
Speaker 1: right because the dynamics so different with Trump taking off now,
Speaker 1: how everything he overcame the way he responded to the
Speaker 1: assassination attempt. Everything else. There is so much less of
Speaker 1: this hateful, blind resistance, not because all of a sudden
Speaker 1: all those people have become good and pure and everything else,
Speaker 1: but because they know at this point they've lost, and
Speaker 1: the American people chose Trump, and they risk their own
Speaker 1: power if they come out now and they try to
Speaker 1: do the same hateful stuff toward him. There's still some pockets,
Speaker 1: but he could you do me a favorite during one
Speaker 1: of the breaks? I mean sure, For those who haven't
Speaker 1: heard a lot of Carrie Underwood, she has almost supernatural
Speaker 1: abilities and it often comes out, I guess, maybe appropriately
Speaker 1: when she's singing religious stuff. So maybe a little how
Speaker 1: great Thou Art Sure or something like that, just played,
Speaker 1: Jesus take the whey on it? That's all yeh. But
Speaker 1: I'm talking about range. Oh yeah, you're the music guy.
Speaker 1: I'm just a lay person who knows what I like here.
Speaker 1: Hey on American Idol? Yeah, give him a ten.
Speaker 3: I know the one you're talking about, and it's when
Speaker 3: you were attending one of her shows. It was in Vegas, right,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, And I'll try to track something representative down
Speaker 3: along those lines. Just an interesting kind of pop culture
Speaker 3: not I was talking about this on my program Dan
Speaker 3: with regard to Carrie Underwood. John Rich, a big and
Speaker 3: rich who's a fervent Trump supporter and one of us
Speaker 3: and quotes he said, Carrie Underwood's just the tip of
Speaker 3: the iceberg, and that he hopes a lot more people
Speaker 3: will come right out in not the Trump haters, but
Speaker 3: the ones that might have been agnostic, like I don't
Speaker 3: want to get involved, I don't want to support Trump,
Speaker 3: and I don't want to vocalize that.
Speaker 4: But the more of those that come.
Speaker 3: Out, like John Rich has and said, now, look I
Speaker 3: like President Trump, or I am proud that he's my president,
Speaker 3: or I admire him for going through an assassination attempt
Speaker 3: and all these other things. The more of those that
Speaker 3: come forward in John Rich's mind, and I agree with this,
Speaker 3: the less there's going to be this vitriol and these
Speaker 3: people carping at Trump with Trump's arrangement syndrome, because it's
Speaker 3: going to be normalized to use the the lef's word
Speaker 3: that Donald Trump is not the demon the left portrays.
Speaker 1: Him to be. And I'm really glad you used that word,
Speaker 1: because yeah, there's going to be more of that, right,
Speaker 1: and with more, and Trump's already so successful. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at if, in fact this deal comes through to
Speaker 1: free the hostages. That was Trump who got that deal
Speaker 1: even before taking office. Right. But you're right, the more
Speaker 1: people come forward on the positive side, the less they'll
Speaker 1: be of the other. But the less there's going to
Speaker 1: be of the other anyway, because it's not working for
Speaker 1: them and they're doing it in their own best interests.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is it all creates, it all helps
Speaker 1: create this moment in America. We haven't had one like it,
Speaker 1: at least in my young lifetime, where there's this opportunity
Speaker 1: for the country to become significantly less polarized. And then,
Speaker 1: as Trump has said, unify around success because nothing's guaranteed,
Speaker 1: but all indications are there's going to be a lot
Speaker 1: more success on multiple fronts than America's had in quite
Speaker 1: a while now. Eight five five four zero five eight
Speaker 1: two five five. So bottom line is Trump has normalized himself.
Speaker 1: Trump has normalized himself through his success, normalized himself by
Speaker 1: overcoming what appeared to be to many almost impossible hurdles.
Speaker 1: I mean, we predicted here he would win for the
Speaker 1: reasons we predicted he did. But then the he handled
Speaker 1: that assassination attempt in Butler, after being shot, so many
Speaker 1: other things, he has normalized himself and he's taken it
Speaker 1: one step further. Not to get all philosophical, he's gone
Speaker 1: beyond normalizing himself. He has now at this point turned
Speaker 1: himself into an almost mythical figure. And if the success
Speaker 1: that I expect to happen happens, then then yeah, it
Speaker 1: is going to be. It's almost in dimensions a biblical
Speaker 1: type story when he's done with that term eight f
Speaker 1: five zero five A two five five or plan A
Speaker 1: lot of hegsas sound today, but we have a lot
Speaker 1: to do locally because and we were on it yesterday,
Speaker 1: you know, as it was unfolding real time, Denver and
Speaker 1: Denver becoming so very dangerous and almost by design, I mean,
Speaker 1: another big step taken by Denversity Council to expand this
Speaker 1: needle exchange program will lead not the next segment, because
Speaker 1: George Brockler will join us in the next segment this
Speaker 1: with him and play the full story after that. But then,
Speaker 1: of course this you have this serial killer loose on
Speaker 1: the mall because remember once he stabbed three people in
Speaker 1: an hour and slit the throat of a flight attendant.
Speaker 1: It was clear he intended to kill all three. So
Speaker 1: at that point, you know, you have a serial killer
Speaker 1: loose on the mall, and one thing you know is
Speaker 1: that that killer is going to kill again, and there's
Speaker 1: every reason to believe that killer is going to kill again,
Speaker 1: and that they're going to kill on the mall. So
Speaker 1: the only way to protect people at that point is
Speaker 1: a five alarm fire warning, because you could flood that
Speaker 1: mall with officers. You could have every Denver police officer
Speaker 1: on that mall, and you know, when you're dealing with
Speaker 1: a psycho serial killer that you're not going to be
Speaker 1: able to stop them. And because serial killer like that,
Speaker 1: how's the cop going to stop it? You flood the
Speaker 1: entire mall with cops and he just walks there. Normal
Speaker 1: looking guy, you know, stone or type, but normal looking
Speaker 1: guy walks onto the mall and he has that big
Speaker 1: old butcher knife under his coat. Every single officer in
Speaker 1: Denver could be on the mall and you're not going
Speaker 1: to be able to stop him because he is a
Speaker 1: psychoone he's determined to kill. So you know, at that
Speaker 1: point is the Mayor of Denver that the only way
Speaker 1: the minute you find out about this is Mary of Denver,
Speaker 1: you know, the only way you can protect the people
Speaker 1: of Denver and beyond is to warn them. Five Allied fire.
Speaker 1: We got a psycho serial killer targeting the mall. Every
Speaker 1: citizen of this nation deserve that warning. Deserve that warning
Speaker 1: as a matter of basic human decency, as a matter
Speaker 1: of public responsibility, because that's the only way you can
Speaker 1: protect him. And that warning did not come. And we're
Speaker 1: going to get to the bottom of that, and I'll
Speaker 1: explain the steps we're taking to get to the bottom
Speaker 1: of it, because I believe I can't prove it right now,
Speaker 1: but logic tells you it's true, and we're taking all
Speaker 1: the steps and we need to get the evidence to
Speaker 1: prove it. Somebody made that decision that we are not
Speaker 1: going to do that big warning, and they had to
Speaker 1: know it's the only way to protect the people, but
Speaker 1: they decided not to protect the people in the interest
Speaker 1: of what was it? Was it Mike Johnston's political interest.
Speaker 1: Just take your chances because it would hurt Mike Johnston,
Speaker 1: because it would hurt business. Whatever it was. The people
Speaker 1: weren't warned somebody had to make that decision. It would
Speaker 1: be even worse if nobody had made the decision right now.
Speaker 1: It's disqualifying. If it is true he did that, he
Speaker 1: should leave office right now. But it would be even
Speaker 1: worse if he didn't make the decision. It would be
Speaker 1: even worse. If he's so out of the loop he
Speaker 1: wasn't informed, or that he was informed and it never
Speaker 1: occurred to him to warn the people, that would be
Speaker 1: even worse. But one way or the other, we have
Speaker 1: got the worst kind of scandal. Because you have the
Speaker 1: big scandals involving money, and they're really bad. That's a
Speaker 1: big deal. A lot of people in jail for those things,
Speaker 1: except politicians. And then you have the worst kind of scandal,
Speaker 1: which is the scandals that get people killed, and this
Speaker 1: is one of them. Because every person in America who
Speaker 1: could have even thought of coming to the mall, certainly
Speaker 1: every person in Denver and Colorado should have been warned
Speaker 1: we've got a psycho serial killer loose on the mall,
Speaker 1: and then they can make their own decision whether to
Speaker 1: go down there.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know the identity d yet run of that
Speaker 1: last victim who was murdered by the serial killer, No,
Speaker 1: the mall serial killer. And so I don't know the backstory,
Speaker 1: but it may well be we'll find out that this
Speaker 1: victim would not have gone there if those warnings admissioned.
Speaker 1: Maybe they lived down there and they would have been
Speaker 1: there anyway, but maybe they would have stayed inside. Who's
Speaker 1: going to go down there? If you get the kind
Speaker 1: of warning you should have that we've got a psycho
Speaker 1: serial killer loose on the mall. People deserve that warning.
Speaker 1: Somebody made the decision not to give it. We're going
Speaker 1: to find out who you're on the Dan.
Speaker 4: Capital you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 8: Form rank senator from the political class on day one
Speaker 8: on January twentieth, when President Trump is sworn in, he
Speaker 8: will issue a new set of lawful orders, and the
Speaker 8: leadership of our services will have an opportunity to follow
Speaker 8: those lawful orders or not. Those lawful orders will not
Speaker 8: be based on politics. They will be based on readiness, accountability, standards,
Speaker 8: and lethality. That is the process by which leaders will
Speaker 8: be judged. And accountability is coming because everybody in this
Speaker 8: room knows.
Speaker 1: If you're a rifleman and you lose.
Speaker 8: Your rifle they're throwing the book at you.
Speaker 1: But if you're a.
Speaker 8: General who loses a war, you get a promotion.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. Yeah. So the beauty of this is Hegsa's
Speaker 1: not only going to be confirmed, but he's going to
Speaker 1: come into office in a stronger position than it looked
Speaker 1: like you would even a couple of weeks ago. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's go to the VIP line. This is exciting stuff.
Speaker 1: It's not often we get a whole new judicial district,
Speaker 1: but Douglas County now, which used to be part of
Speaker 1: the eighteenth, combined with the REPO and others, it is
Speaker 1: now its own judicial district. And so George Brockler joins us, says,
Speaker 1: the first elected DA of the twenty third right, because
Speaker 1: we've never had a twenty third before. How does it feel,
Speaker 1: my friend?
Speaker 2: It feels good to finally be in that position, and
Speaker 2: a good friend of ours, I think, is equally relieved
Speaker 2: to finally have finished up with his portion of that process.
Speaker 2: But it's exciting, it feels daunting. I now know that
Speaker 2: every small or big horrible thing that happens in this
Speaker 2: jurisdiction is now gonna at some point land on my
Speaker 2: desk in a way that it didn't before.
Speaker 1: So I'm ready.
Speaker 2: I got a great team, so excited. John's efforts to
Speaker 2: put me in the best position to win have been wonderful.
Speaker 2: Miss I'm gonna miss.
Speaker 1: That guy, referring to John Kellner, obviously a good friend
Speaker 1: and looking forward to trying a bunch of cases with John.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so John has on a great job. But
Speaker 1: now that the twenty thirty is the twenty third in
Speaker 1: and of itself, and I've got to think, George, that
Speaker 1: everything you've done in your whole life prepares you for this.
Speaker 2: In some weird ways, it has. I mean, I never
Speaker 2: expected I would get to be a prosecutor again after
Speaker 2: I left the eighteenth and then this new judicial district
Speaker 2: sort of started to come to life, and I was
Speaker 2: at a place where I thought, I can still do
Speaker 2: something here, I can make a difference. And nobody, nobody
Speaker 2: alive has ever started a brand new DA's office, and
Speaker 2: certainly not in these times where it's challenging. And I
Speaker 2: feel incredibly blessed. But I also feel like if there
Speaker 2: was someone more qualified to do this job, I'd yield
Speaker 2: it to them. But I just don't know who that is, well.
Speaker 1: Right, and I think in so many different ways. Obviously
Speaker 1: you probably didn't see any of the heccess stuff today,
Speaker 1: but your own military career, your stant successful stan very
Speaker 1: successful stint in the eighteenth and then you know Douglas
Speaker 1: count itself. Because I've got to tell you, I'm privileged
Speaker 1: to try cases a lot of places in this state,
Speaker 1: and I love them all. Douglas County is one of
Speaker 1: my favorites. It's it's just as you know that, the
Speaker 1: county itself, the courthouse, everything about it. I just think,
Speaker 1: like John before you, you're a perfect fit for it.
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting about Douglas is it's very conservative.
Speaker 2: It definitely shows some signs of bluing, especially in highlands
Speaker 2: ranch in like the House District forty three area. But
Speaker 2: it's not a place that most civil attorneys, PLANEFF attorneys
Speaker 2: want to come. As you know, most civil attorneys feel
Speaker 2: like I'm going I'm going to get a better jury
Speaker 2: and in Denver or maybe in Boulder Adams or something
Speaker 2: like that. But you've proven time and again when you
Speaker 2: come down here that if if you can talk to smart, educated,
Speaker 2: you know, valued principled people, you can get great results
Speaker 2: for your clients. These are just great neighbors to have.
Speaker 1: You know wonderful people, and I know you've had the
Speaker 1: same experience. One of my great regrets is that we
Speaker 1: have an at the chance to try a case together,
Speaker 1: because I know what a great trial lawyer you are.
Speaker 1: But every trial lawyer knows everybody who's served on a
Speaker 1: jury knows a fundamental truth. All jurors are smart everywhere.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they have one year education fifty
Speaker 1: years education. They're all smart everywhere, and it's just a
Speaker 1: matter of being able to go into wherever you are
Speaker 1: and just tell the true story in an effective way there,
Speaker 1: which you have always been wonderful at. So will you
Speaker 1: be in I already know the answer to this question
Speaker 1: without you telling me, But will you be in the
Speaker 1: courtroom in Douglas?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, So I reached out to my Chief of
Speaker 2: County court that's all the misdemeanors to uys and all that,
Speaker 2: because I thought there'd be a better answer to this.
Speaker 2: But I said, hey, grab me up something in week one.
Speaker 2: I want to be in the court right trying the case.
Speaker 2: Was one of these junior guys, kind of like way
Speaker 2: back in the day when Bob Er and I did that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: remember that now? Do.
Speaker 1: We talk about it all the time.
Speaker 2: I push it through that. Yeah, so I tried that
Speaker 2: turns out we had nothing this week. Next week, I'm
Speaker 2: hopeful I put myself on a shaken baby case in
Speaker 2: February and then their hicular homicide that has yet to
Speaker 2: be set. But my intention is to lead from the front.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to Obama this thing.
Speaker 1: See that that is wonderful. George Brockler obviously our guest,
Speaker 1: the very first district attorney of the newly created twenty
Speaker 1: third And that's great, and you're going to be more fulfilled,
Speaker 1: the people of the county be well served because it's
Speaker 1: hard to imagine a better trial er than you. And
Speaker 1: that's just great for everybody, right because everybody listening knows,
Speaker 1: whether they do that for a job or not, that
Speaker 1: trial is hard work. Trial's tough, and so you know,
Speaker 1: when you lead by example like that, it's going to
Speaker 1: help the whole office.
Speaker 2: I hope, so, but I also hope, and I don't
Speaker 2: want people to take this the wrong way, But I
Speaker 2: also hope, and I said this in my comments today.
Speaker 2: Fun right, Like, we do have cases where you're dealing
Speaker 2: with the worst of the worst humanity, but you also
Speaker 2: have cases where you get exposed to some of the
Speaker 2: best of humanity and you happen to represent the Castillo's
Speaker 2: and their son is one of the examples of when
Speaker 2: you get to see the best of humans. But in
Speaker 2: between there are a lot of opportunities to do great
Speaker 2: work for the victims in the community but still have fun.
Speaker 2: And I love trial because as intense as it is,
Speaker 2: every trial and you know that leads to some kind
Speaker 2: of crazy story that you end up telling with friends
Speaker 2: over at barbecue and a beer or something and they're like,
Speaker 2: no way, and you're like, yeah way. Every time you know.
Speaker 1: Well, and it's kind of and everybody listening, in their
Speaker 1: own life and their own chosen paths, has whatever it
Speaker 1: is that gives them that maximum joy and fulfillment, and
Speaker 1: that can be found in the midst of all these
Speaker 1: tragedies when you feel like you've really been able to
Speaker 1: do justice for somebody going through something horrible. And so
Speaker 1: in a DA's office, obviously you have that opportunity all
Speaker 1: the time, but talk's cheap. You got to do the work,
Speaker 1: You got to go in, you got to try the case,
Speaker 1: and you know you have a history of doing that,
Speaker 1: like John before you, and I have no doubt your
Speaker 1: team is going to follow your lead. And from what
Speaker 1: I've been hearing from John, You've got a lot of
Speaker 1: great people.
Speaker 2: We kind of post a lot of the best and
Speaker 2: the brightest from Arapa Ho. I know John was regretful
Speaker 2: about that at the time. I think he's given up
Speaker 2: on that now. But I was very fortunate. And a
Speaker 2: lot of this has to do with Douglas County being
Speaker 2: so favorable and so supportive and putting together the best
Speaker 2: team possible. He brought up doing great things. One of
Speaker 2: the most moving things about today, and it was packed
Speaker 2: in the jury commissioners room in Douglas Canton. I was
Speaker 2: given some comments. Is the number of victims from past cases,
Speaker 2: from Aurora to Stem to Cody Donahue, the troop of
Speaker 2: that got killed on the overn that came to this thing. Wow,
Speaker 2: and came up to me and said, I'm so proud
Speaker 2: of you, thank you. I'll never forget what you did
Speaker 2: for me, And I remember I didn't. You know, you
Speaker 2: get overwhelmed. And I imagine even clients that you had
Speaker 2: years later when they reached back out and say thank
Speaker 2: you for what you've done. And you think I love
Speaker 2: this job, man, I love the opportunity to just bring
Speaker 2: just a little bit of comfort to these people.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's obviously a great testament you because you
Speaker 1: know they're going through the absolute worst moment in their
Speaker 1: lives or anybody's life. You know, when when you're involved
Speaker 1: in helping him in every way you can. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and I've always said I think, short of President of
Speaker 1: the United States, the most important vote anybody ever casts
Speaker 1: is for their local district attorney. And because you talk
Speaker 1: about real impact on your life, positive or negative, it's
Speaker 1: the quality of that DA. So people on really good
Speaker 1: hands with you, my friend and I. I hope we
Speaker 1: can keep getting you on air. I hope you can
Speaker 1: come in and do the show occasionally, though I know
Speaker 1: you're going to be pretty slammed.
Speaker 2: Happy to do it. And please just keep a seat
Speaker 2: warm for me for whether it's four or eight years,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be an intern again.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'd tell you I would love to try
Speaker 1: a case with you, and I have dreamed also of
Speaker 1: trying cases with John and we're going to have him
Speaker 1: on tomorrow and talk about that in some more detail.
Speaker 1: But hey man, congrats on it all. Full disclosure. I
Speaker 1: supported George's campaign and wrote whatever small check they allow
Speaker 1: you to, right, but best money I could spend, because
Speaker 1: you are going to get it done, my friend, and
Speaker 1: the best of luck with it.
Speaker 2: Thanks sir, Hi to Kelly and Ryan too.
Speaker 1: I will do that. Take care of that is George Brockler.
Speaker 1: So you know, Douglas has been very fortunate. They've had
Speaker 1: a string of really good das through the eighteenth and
Speaker 1: George through the eighteenth, followed by John Brockler. John Brockler,
Speaker 1: we'll have laugh about that tomorrow. John Kellner following George
Speaker 1: who then was the DA for Douglas and had great
Speaker 1: success Era and now George, and man, that is just
Speaker 1: so critical in so many ways. You want to exhibit
Speaker 1: a Hey, look at Denver, right, the great people of
Speaker 1: Denver deserve a lot better than they've had with with
Speaker 1: Beth McCann and my humble opinion and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: They're about to get a DA who I think is
Speaker 1: going to do a real good job, and he's an
Speaker 1: elected Democrat. This is not a party thing necessarily, because
Speaker 1: you have those elected das who are Democrats, who, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, then let politics influence and political philosophy, you know,
Speaker 1: influence prosecutorial decisions, and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: have criminals running wild in the communities in more danger
Speaker 1: my humble opinion, that's what happened with Beth McCann. Then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your police officers don't have what
Speaker 1: they need, that people don't have what they need. Criminals
Speaker 1: figure out that hey, they can get off easy in
Speaker 1: Denver often, and then you have elected Democrats who don't
Speaker 1: go that political route, who just stand up, take on
Speaker 1: that sacred responsibility and do a great job. I think
Speaker 1: the next Denver DA is going to do that. We'll
Speaker 1: find out together. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Literally, and that must be what the angels sound like.
Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about that in a turn to
Speaker 1: be religious or anything. Have you ever thought about what
Speaker 1: goes on up there, what Helen's really like, what it
Speaker 1: looks like, and you know, what goes on down there?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, and we're seeing a lot of what
Speaker 1: goes on down there up here, but we see a
Speaker 1: lot of what goes on up there down here too.
Speaker 1: So that's deep. Well, that's deep.
Speaker 3: There's a working theory Dan that actually we souls here
Speaker 3: on this planet Earth. This is purgatory. This is the
Speaker 3: in between stage. I'm just saying there are people that believe.
Speaker 1: That, not me, because the way I look at it
Speaker 1: is particularly this is we're a lot of rewinners, right,
Speaker 1: We're born in America. I mean, this is in heaven.
Speaker 1: This isn't our home, This isn't our destination, right, you know,
Speaker 1: but this is pretty awesome. I mean, we're we are
Speaker 1: created for this opportunity, and yeah, so I think this
Speaker 1: is pretty pretty awesome. But yeah, not our destination. I
Speaker 1: think in our destination depends on what we do here there.
Speaker 1: It is yeah, five five four zero five eight two
Speaker 1: five five The number takes d a N five seven
Speaker 1: seventh three nine. And I respect the fact that that
Speaker 1: a lot of people disagree with that. That's just what
Speaker 1: I have and to believe, Texters, and I've got to
Speaker 1: I've got to tell you this. And I know it
Speaker 1: doesn't show in the way I always do things, but
Speaker 1: it's not just what I believe. It's what I know,
Speaker 1: which is part of what scares me, right, because I'm
Speaker 1: really blessed. Part of it is my parents, some life
Speaker 1: experiences everything else. But I just I just know that
Speaker 1: is true. So you would think I would do some
Speaker 1: things better, but yeah, it's just you just know it's true.
Speaker 1: And so eight five five or zero five A two
Speaker 1: five five text d a N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 1: And it really does make me wonder, you know, it
Speaker 1: makes me wonder about a guy like Joe Biden, right
Speaker 1: because I look at myself and I feel very, very
Speaker 1: blessed to have been raised by my parents and to uh,
Speaker 1: you know, be raised in the Catholic faith and all
Speaker 1: of that. Not to in any way, shape or form
Speaker 1: reflect on anybody else's faith, you know, it's but I
Speaker 1: just feels so fortunate that way. And I sit here
Speaker 1: and I know what an imperfect Catholic I am. I'm
Speaker 1: not proud of that. I'm working on it. I'm a
Speaker 1: work in progress. But then you look at a guy
Speaker 1: like Joe Biden who comes out and to get votes
Speaker 1: and everything else. I'm a devout Catholic, devout Catholic, self
Speaker 1: described devout Catholic, and then uses all these gifts God
Speaker 1: gave him in the position that he's put in then
Speaker 1: to do everything he possibly can to work against the
Speaker 1: foundational teaching of the Catholic Church. And you just wonder,
Speaker 1: because do you ever worry do you ever worry about
Speaker 1: like Judgment Day? Yeah, okay, no, I don't mean sure.
Speaker 4: It's like studying for a test.
Speaker 3: And then you're like, I don't know, maybe yeah.
Speaker 1: The only thing I can be sure of is I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, and I mean, I know it's coming, but
Speaker 1: I want more mercy than justice. I'm sure don't want
Speaker 1: justice because justice means I get what's due to me.
Speaker 1: I don't want what's due to me. I want mercy.
Speaker 1: But you think about that Judgment Day. And I've always
Speaker 1: wondered about these politicians that run around saying I'm Catholic,
Speaker 1: vote for me, and then their most fervent commitment is
Speaker 1: to spreading the mass killing of God's creation before they're born.
Speaker 1: And I just wonder do they have no thought of
Speaker 1: Judgment Day? Because when you get to the abortion issue,
Speaker 1: and I've got some other stuff to talk about, believe
Speaker 1: it or not, But when you get to the abortion issue,
Speaker 1: you can completely separate out religious beliefs, and at that
Speaker 1: point abortion is still as obviously wrong for completely non
Speaker 1: religious reasons. You just start with the basic medicine and
Speaker 1: basic morality and basic right and wrong. But for the
Speaker 1: people who choose to get elected to office by saying
Speaker 1: I'm a Catholic, I'm a Catholic, I'm a Catholic, or
Speaker 1: I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian. Then
Speaker 1: they go do the exact opposite with the power people
Speaker 1: give them. Do they ever even think about judgment day?
Speaker 1: You think you think Biden thinks about that now as
Speaker 1: he gets closer and closer and listen, we're all day
Speaker 1: to day, we could all be minutes away. But do
Speaker 1: you think he thinks about that? I don't think he
Speaker 1: thinks about these days. Well, I think we just had
Speaker 1: one confirm, one question confirmed. And I had always been
Speaker 1: concerned that Michelle Obama might run for president against President Trump,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that she did not. I think that
Speaker 1: if she had run and run right, she would have
Speaker 1: by far been the toughest to beat. Do I think
Speaker 1: that after Butler, that Trump, the tremendous way he handled that, etc.
Speaker 1: Would have beat her. I think he probably would have,
Speaker 1: But she would have been infinitely tougher than anybody else
Speaker 1: if she ran right. But I think the hope that
Speaker 1: she would not run because she couldn't stomach losing to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, or even the possibility she'd lose to Trump.
Speaker 1: Was just confirmed because one of the real low class
Speaker 1: moves politically speaking in a long time. She's not going
Speaker 1: to go to the inauguration that was just announced, and
Speaker 1: so I think that confirms the earlier theory and really
Speaker 1: does not reflect well on her. You're on the Dan
Speaker 1: Kapla Show.