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Speaker 1: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera dere Troy Hutchinson. We'll come
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Speaker 1: want to talk about real quick to to say, just
Speaker 1: the unfortunate news of the plane crash last night that
Speaker 1: involved so many, so many people and a number of
Speaker 1: people from the United States ice skating team and the
Speaker 1: rushing team, and it was just unbelievable. But I got
Speaker 1: the news last night on you know, following like everybody else,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, man, what a what a tragic situation.
Speaker 1: Then you wake up and then you figure out who
Speaker 1: or find out who's on the plane you're thinking, not
Speaker 1: that it diminishes it, right, but it's you know, a
Speaker 1: team and just just sudden suddenly you know, I've experienced
Speaker 1: that recently with my family and just sudden, sudden death
Speaker 1: and it's just so unbelieve it's hard to imagine. That's
Speaker 1: because I've gone through it. My son lives in that area,
Speaker 1: so have you to how to him about the you know,
Speaker 1: the situation because he's in.
Speaker 2: The DC area. Yeah, and you know, just thinking it's
Speaker 2: an unfortunate event and it could have could have happened
Speaker 2: at any time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, I just just odd set of
Speaker 1: circumstances and they'll figure that out. But very sad, sad
Speaker 1: to see and said to hear. Okay, if you'd like
Speaker 1: to call, please do five two zero four one six
Speaker 1: seventy four forty. We've already talked about the arena. So
Speaker 1: when do you think they're going to hear from the
Speaker 1: other guys? Uh, you know, Cole, he's kind of dragging
Speaker 1: it out a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think at the end of the high school season.
Speaker 2: Probably might be a marker, at the end of the
Speaker 2: playoffs or in the month, maybe maybe a little bit
Speaker 2: into the summer. I mean, really that late you never
Speaker 2: know what kids.
Speaker 1: Well that too, because I guess that you have to
Speaker 1: figure out who's going to come back and who's not
Speaker 1: gonna be better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a big factor for a lot of
Speaker 2: these kids. And you saw that with the guy that
Speaker 2: went over at the names Escaping memory right now but
Speaker 2: went over to a su he was waiting to go out.
Speaker 2: Caleb Love's decision. Caleb Love came back, you know, and
Speaker 2: he went off to ASU, same with Jamari Phillips that
Speaker 2: I believe it's now at Oregon as well. Waited to
Speaker 2: hear for a couple of decisions from Caleb love kJ
Speaker 2: Lewis and Jadon Bradley. So I think it might drag out.
Speaker 2: You never know, And again, teams still get involved. Hey,
Speaker 2: we'll give you this, this and this and this day
Speaker 2: and age of recruiting. Yes, the team could be a favor,
Speaker 2: but it could change on a dime.
Speaker 1: So you brought up in Al when it came to
Speaker 1: Arena's number one reason.
Speaker 2: I think it's a big factor. I mean, you would
Speaker 2: have to think that Arizona was in a very good position.
Speaker 2: I know Louisville was thought of to be right there
Speaker 2: with Arizona, especially with adida shoe deal and then being
Speaker 2: Adida's family, and then all of a sudden the USC
Speaker 2: gets them. So you would have to think that that
Speaker 2: was a factor in this show.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you how many times do you think
Speaker 1: this will happen and say, well, in I L yeah,
Speaker 1: and I L.
Speaker 2: It's the way of the future. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: And you know Arizona does for basketball have a solid
Speaker 2: nil foundation. But you know you have a coach that's
Speaker 2: not necessarily willing to I'm not going to go all
Speaker 2: out on one player.
Speaker 1: He's here and he's admitted that he's not going to
Speaker 1: pay players to play the Legacy School of Arizona.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, well we give up. Will they give
Speaker 2: a player of money to come to a zone? Sure,
Speaker 2: I mean that's what you do. But I'm not going
Speaker 2: to break the bank for one guy that's going to
Speaker 2: make or break.
Speaker 1: Me right right right? No, And he's stepfast on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he's going to coach him up or develop them.
Speaker 1: If you want to be developing, this is the place
Speaker 1: to come. And that's what he sells. Yeah. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna hear about nil not making it all the time.
Speaker 1: So give me up in the in the ranks of this,
Speaker 1: I'll give you one hundred schools Division one schools top
Speaker 1: to bottom. You know, the Ohio States, the Texas is
Speaker 1: near the top of the Alabamas? Or do is Arizona
Speaker 1: fit net NL world for in terms of a university
Speaker 1: as a whole. No, No football, which is probably blow
Speaker 1: basketball football. Yes, I'm just guessing poorly, very poorly. Put
Speaker 1: football very poorly. Give me a number if it's out
Speaker 1: of one hundred. Maybe he's sixtieth, seventieth, okay, sixty seven,
Speaker 1: that's okay. It makes the middle of the pack. That's
Speaker 1: why I would say probably top twenty, which is a
Speaker 1: big deal. I mean, they're still pretty good. Maybe top fifteen,
Speaker 1: that's still good. That's fantastic. And then if you get
Speaker 1: that or be able to buy some guys coach them up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, guess what it's it's all the same.
Speaker 1: It's the same, except it's pre nil because they're fifteenth anyway,
Speaker 1: weren't they in the grand scheme of things? Well, and
Speaker 1: then you saw and again I know there's different aspects
Speaker 1: that it was a whole different time, but the Sean
Speaker 1: Miller era, they were getting these top guys. Oh they were.
Speaker 1: They were going to I wonder why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, all that is what it is
Speaker 2: now legal and but my point is everybody was doing it,
Speaker 2: and so that's why you have NIL. But you're seeing
Speaker 2: the separation. It's like, Okay, why is Duke getting all
Speaker 2: the top players all the time? Back then all coach
Speaker 2: K is great and da da da da. Guess what,
Speaker 2: they're still getting the top players without coach K. Nothing's
Speaker 2: changed now, it's just about what it's open. Yeah, nothing's
Speaker 2: changed because the rich are still getting richer. Kentucky's still
Speaker 2: getting players, do still giving players.
Speaker 1: You know, it's you've developed this reputation and you're the
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the country. Well, with's
Speaker 1: best programs in the country, you're going to be continue
Speaker 1: to be thought of it as the best teams in
Speaker 1: the country. And nothing's changed except that other's money involved.
Speaker 2: No, and you know everybody wants to talk about well
Speaker 2: football makes all the nil and there that's going to
Speaker 2: be the way of the future that I know. Okay, yes,
Speaker 2: football makes a lot of money. But guess what Kansas
Speaker 2: football stinks. Yeah, Duke football stinks. North Carolina football is average,
Speaker 2: but they dominate basketball, and they had the NL and
Speaker 2: they had the money to get Well.
Speaker 1: North Carolina doesn't dominate basketball anymore.
Speaker 2: No, but they're still getting the players.
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. Yeah, which makes sense. Players
Speaker 1: don't players don't make winners. No, they're one of example,
Speaker 1: one of the examples. We'll see what happens that Kansas.
Speaker 1: Kansas is not doing well this year.
Speaker 2: No, but I think they'll give Bill self the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt. Oh, of course, of course. But you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, they're not. They're not the Kansas
Speaker 2: of the past. No, they they don't scare you out
Speaker 2: on the court. And honestly, even though they won the title,
Speaker 2: what was that two three years ago? They really haven't
Speaker 2: scared you of being Kansas in a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even though they continue to win. They didn't win recently,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. I think teams have also kind of
Speaker 1: the top in the middle have kind of smushed, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of smushed from one to twenty five
Speaker 1: have kind of gotten closer. Well, look at Baylor, I
Speaker 1: mean under Drew, they won in title. They've been that
Speaker 1: top five team, top ten team for an extended period
Speaker 1: of time, and here are this season they're hovering in
Speaker 1: the top twenty five. Where was where was a new
Speaker 1: recent coaching vacancy happening? Miyani? Oh no, no, no, if Arkansas,
Speaker 1: if somebody had a bad year that thinking they should
Speaker 1: should be replaced by Drew, I can't remember. It'll come
Speaker 1: to me eventually.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Cali barrycause Kentucky went after Scott Drew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but Kentucky's got his coach. They have his coach,
Speaker 1: Arkansas has its coach for however long we don't know.
Speaker 1: But a new opening could be somewhere, and that.
Speaker 2: Drew Oh could be recently. What you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can't remember that school. Why why I
Speaker 1: am Well, I know why I am lacking. I just
Speaker 1: can't remember.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm sure North Carolina, I'm sure they're
Speaker 2: getting there. Yeah, I mean you gotta win that. Oh,
Speaker 2: Indiana and India, Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, he's not
Speaker 2: going to be there, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah no.
Speaker 2: And look that's an example. They had all the NL,
Speaker 2: they had over eight million dollars in NL. They got
Speaker 2: Umar Boo, they got a kid from Oregon, they got
Speaker 2: a kid from they from Washington. Say they got all
Speaker 2: these top players in the in the transfer portal and
Speaker 2: they stink. Yeah, well they're not good. That shows a
Speaker 2: lot with coaching matters. Yeah, well that coaching matters.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, if they get a good coach, Indiana could
Speaker 1: come back. They had Kelvin until he got caught with
Speaker 1: you doing the stuff. They was.
Speaker 2: Tom Green, solid job there for a period of time.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. The thing is, Arizona can
Speaker 2: compete in in nil. If it's true that they're in
Speaker 2: the fifteen top twenty, I'm sure there's always more. I
Speaker 2: think about it, and you and you're part of your
Speaker 2: boards and part of the internet.
Speaker 1: That I watch. Uh, people complain and complain, but they
Speaker 1: don't contribute.
Speaker 2: No, No, Well what are you going to games? I
Speaker 2: can't afford it? Are you staying up odd? It's too
Speaker 2: late and I can't do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or are you helping within al? No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not sure how secure that money is
Speaker 1: or where that one is going.
Speaker 2: You know how you fix things and throw money at
Speaker 2: it in college sports and throw money at it, and
Speaker 2: I hope it works. You hope they have the right
Speaker 2: leadership in place to realize who are they're hiring and
Speaker 2: who are they bringing into the program.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, This is a just hypothetical,
Speaker 1: dumb ask question. Uh, you see Caleb playing well and
Speaker 1: then not well, and then well, what do you think
Speaker 1: he's making? I just okay, whatever. If he's I'll give
Speaker 1: you number five hundred thousand. If he's making that, is
Speaker 1: he playing to five hundred thousand?
Speaker 2: More?
Speaker 1: Wait? Wait? Is he playing the five hundred thousand. Yeah
Speaker 1: he is. I think he is.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think because you have the factor of him,
Speaker 2: of him being that type of you have the resume,
Speaker 2: you have everything. You know, he has the capability of
Speaker 2: doing what he does.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, more so, if is he playing worth
Speaker 1: a million.
Speaker 2: Dollars, that's where we're getting into question, right one point three?
Speaker 1: Okay, one point three? Is he playing worth what he's
Speaker 1: getting paid? If that's the case.
Speaker 2: If that's the true number, I still think yes, because
Speaker 2: your alternative option would have been two freshmen, the two
Speaker 2: kids from one kid at ASU, one kid at Oregon,
Speaker 2: and they got more because they demanded more, and as
Speaker 2: she was willing to give it, Oregon was willing to
Speaker 2: give it, or Arizona said get out of here. Look
Speaker 2: at where now. Oregon is a good team. Oregon's a
Speaker 2: good program. Dane Allman's a good coach. But that player
Speaker 2: that went there isn't a huge factor on that team
Speaker 2: right now. Sure, Now, the kid at ASU, they started
Speaker 2: off hot during the non conference season. Now they're two
Speaker 2: and some in the in the Big twelve, they're not
Speaker 2: very good. And so do you want a senior making
Speaker 2: mistakes that knows how to work his way out of it,
Speaker 2: or do you want a kid that wants to be
Speaker 2: a one and done? I'm thinking about the NBA. I
Speaker 2: really don't care.
Speaker 1: Right well, if if that's true, I guess is that true.
Speaker 2: That that's one of the stipulations, is that recruit was
Speaker 2: trying to be a one another.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll ask Code if that continues to be
Speaker 1: the case.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I haven't watched issue, so I don't
Speaker 2: know how how he's playing. I'm sure he's playing very well.
Speaker 1: He's a highly last Code because he'll answer those questions
Speaker 1: pretty honestly if you know how good they are won.
Speaker 1: And is this guy gone after this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, anybody want to call, We still have some time.
Speaker 1: We have about five minutes five two zero four one
Speaker 1: six seventy four forty If you're interested in talking about
Speaker 1: the recruiting situation or whatever else you want to talk about,
Speaker 1: that'd be fine.
Speaker 2: You know, one thing that surprised me from the I
Speaker 2: was thinking was Jaden Bradley. That the consistency that everybody
Speaker 2: you know, oh he's not good enough, and we were
Speaker 2: saying it last year. He's not good enough to run
Speaker 2: the point guard position. Yeah, he had six or seven assists.
Speaker 2: He had the seven turnovers. Yeah, but he's had six
Speaker 2: to seven assists. There were steals, seven steals, I believe,
Speaker 2: eight points. It didn't it didn't let him get to him.
Speaker 2: Those flowers didn't get to him.
Speaker 1: That's not the question about him. Him though, he was
Speaker 1: made for that game. Yeah, he's a tough dude, and
Speaker 1: you can tell he's tough minded. Nothing's going to rattle him.
Speaker 1: My my concerns was passing is what you were kind
Speaker 1: of thinking, got to give up the basketball from time
Speaker 1: to time. As good as you are getting to the basket,
Speaker 1: going downhill and getting a shot off, you still need
Speaker 1: to incorporate other people involved. And he did it and
Speaker 1: he and he has no No, that was this year.
Speaker 3: That's year.
Speaker 1: Last year it was head down, gets the basket and
Speaker 1: put the ball up. And he's gotten better at it
Speaker 1: because he has had to get better.
Speaker 2: Because they needed someone out of the two to do that.
Speaker 2: Is Love going to do that or Jayden? And Jayden
Speaker 2: fell into that role.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, he's good. He's good.
Speaker 2: He's just not your typical point guard. No, no, but
Speaker 2: he but he can score. But as he grown and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking in terms of not drafted but undrafted. As
Speaker 2: he grew into a potential NBA player season, he will be.
Speaker 1: After another year, after another year, because he's going to
Speaker 1: get bigger, stronger, better, smarter, all that stuff. But you
Speaker 1: know how difficult it is to become an NBA player. Everybody,
Speaker 1: and in this country, in college town, thinks that everybody's
Speaker 1: an NBA player right doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2: And then he has to compete with overseas prospects more
Speaker 2: and more. Now they don't forget the G League because
Speaker 2: they're trying to get.
Speaker 1: A job to try to make their life doing this.
Speaker 1: Is he is the NBA player? Not right now? Could
Speaker 1: he be? Yes? Is is Henry Eventually? Eventually I think
Speaker 1: he will be down the road. He could be because
Speaker 1: he's a stretch forward. He can shoot it and if
Speaker 1: he puts a little weight on him, he needs he
Speaker 1: needs to develop in certain areas to make it up
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 4: Thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Caleb's not and and and I'm saying that
Speaker 1: because other people are saying.
Speaker 2: That, people who know, No, I still don't think he's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well you can tell how how he's not in
Speaker 1: how he handles the ball. I kind of still kind
Speaker 1: of sporadic and kind of doesn't.
Speaker 2: It's very very sporadic, very you don't know what you're
Speaker 2: going to get right anytime.
Speaker 1: Is not not right now?
Speaker 2: Not right?
Speaker 1: But I think he will be oh yeah, yeah, no question.
Speaker 1: He's talented, he's smart. Uh, he's he knows the game.
Speaker 1: But just today, like I ask you, how good is
Speaker 1: Arizona today? Well, not today now Carter today? No, well today,
Speaker 1: probably a second round draft pick.
Speaker 2: Won.
Speaker 1: He's the prospect right right today?
Speaker 2: Yeah, today, I think he could low first, high second
Speaker 2: eas leaking into the NBA. But tomorrow next season, is
Speaker 2: he when he's probably the guy on the ronster, Yeah,
Speaker 2: lottery pick if not top ten pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well is he?
Speaker 2: Is he with thirty two first rounds, thirty two picks,
Speaker 2: top thirty thirty thirty picks? Is he?
Speaker 1: Uh, one of the top thirty fighters in the country
Speaker 1: right now? Right now?
Speaker 2: You know but that they don't draft off.
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, of course not, of course not, but but still
Speaker 1: you're going.
Speaker 2: To I want to pick him in. I want to
Speaker 2: pick him in the first round right now, and if
Speaker 2: you do, it's probably that twenty seven to thirty range.
Speaker 2: I think next season, once he has a full year
Speaker 2: to develop. He the guy that's averaging thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
Speaker 2: points a game, whatever it may be, that's the top
Speaker 2: ten Pickna. He's gonna get into that form, very very
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Speaker 3: At here, I'll talk Sports fourteen.
Speaker 1: Ki, I'm Steve RIVERA Troy Hutchison that on the phone.
Speaker 1: We have a hold. Rabino from Arizona. Double Digest or
Speaker 1: Devil's Digest I would Tempe you combine the two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's in Rivalryes weekend. Just hold how you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Steve Troy, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: How well you over the hangover from the football season?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, with with the struggles of basketball, I
Speaker 3: think there's definitely a good contingent of AC fans wondering
Speaker 3: against spring practice is going to be starting out. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, it's been an incredible football season, you know,
Speaker 3: one that nobody expected all the way back in fall camp.
Speaker 3: And you know, there were pretty high expectations of the
Speaker 3: basketball team too, and honestly, I think in the non
Speaker 3: conference it really turned out a very solid performance. But
Speaker 3: once a big twelve play started and a lot of
Speaker 3: key injuries happening to the team, it's definitely been a
Speaker 3: rocky road for the Sun Devils.
Speaker 1: This might be a tongue in cheek kind of question,
Speaker 1: but it seems like Bobby's snake bit and I say
Speaker 1: that and are not so bad, not in a bad
Speaker 1: way at all. It's just like, over the years, something
Speaker 1: always happens and you're talking about injuries, now, how is
Speaker 1: that happening?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the injuries that are happening this year. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, covering Bobby, you know, not only
Speaker 3: you know covering Bobby this whole tenure at Arizona State
Speaker 3: and even teams previous to that in TMP, I really
Speaker 3: don't remember so many key injuries happening this early in
Speaker 3: in conference play and that it really does throw you
Speaker 3: off track.
Speaker 1: Now, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, for the most part, SUO has
Speaker 3: lost to very good teams like Kansas, like like Baylor,
Speaker 3: Iowa State obviously, and I wouldn't even throw a team
Speaker 3: like UCF that you know definitely has been impressive at
Speaker 3: some points here early on in Big Twelve play. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that when you look at a team that
Speaker 3: you thought was going to be pretty deep when it
Speaker 3: season started, and again going back to non conference play,
Speaker 3: I definitely thought they did show a lot of promise,
Speaker 3: and here they are when the conference play began with
Speaker 3: a twenty point loss at Provo, and I don't think
Speaker 3: I might expected BYU to be a world beater. And ironically,
Speaker 3: right after that big win against ASU, they went into
Speaker 3: a pretty lengthy funk and that game against BYU to
Speaker 3: open Big Twelve play that was the only game you
Speaker 3: can look at to say that ASU actually did have
Speaker 3: all its starters healthy and playing, and from there on
Speaker 3: out it's just one starter injured after another after another
Speaker 3: and kind of playing musical shows with that. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I would say that's really been an anomaly. And I
Speaker 3: don't remember any Bobby Hurley team in his ten years
Speaker 3: in TENP really being stincmid to use your term when
Speaker 3: it comes to the injury.
Speaker 2: But you know, they, like you said, they got off
Speaker 2: on a hot start and they've gone through injuries and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But what have you seen in terms of the on play,
Speaker 2: in terms of the court play on the court, what
Speaker 2: are some of the things that they were maybe doing
Speaker 2: during that first half of the season that they're not
Speaker 2: doing so well now that they've struggled at.
Speaker 3: Well. I mean, I don't want to boil it down
Speaker 3: to one certain player, but I think Dressan Sanan, which
Speaker 3: is obviously a huge storyline going into this game on Saturday,
Speaker 3: a former U of A commit. I think that when
Speaker 3: he was healthy and it was still in the phase
Speaker 3: where teams were trying to figure him out defensively, he
Speaker 3: was really able to be the straw that stirred the
Speaker 3: drink if you will, and everything just really kind of
Speaker 3: fell in line from there. He started I think only
Speaker 3: maybe the first first game or two of the season
Speaker 3: and then coming off the bench, he's been an absolute
Speaker 3: solid sixth man or a s U until he got
Speaker 3: injured in that season. I'm tarting that big twelve opener
Speaker 3: against by You And ever since then, this really has
Speaker 3: not been himself. I think that the Scotland report that
Speaker 3: has been out on him for a couple of months
Speaker 3: now has really slowed him down to and that has
Speaker 3: been kind of a domino effect where when he when
Speaker 3: he's not on the court a SU definitely misses his scoring.
Speaker 3: His is just offensive spark off the bench. And ever
Speaker 3: since he's been I would say somewhat healthy because I
Speaker 3: still don't think it's one hundred percent healthy plant ankle injury,
Speaker 3: you know, when when he when he's on the court now,
Speaker 3: it's just not the same just on that we that
Speaker 3: we've seen in non conference play, and I think that
Speaker 3: has had a pretty bad domino effect for the team.
Speaker 3: And again not to belabor the point, but just some
Speaker 3: key injuries to starters like DJ Freeman Jaden Quayens really
Speaker 3: have been that perfect storm of obstacles that a se
Speaker 3: was trying to ne gay through and obviously when you
Speaker 3: look at the results, are having a hard time to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 1: What's the what's the status on those players you mentioned one?
Speaker 1: And and I'm you know, I don't I haven't followed
Speaker 1: an issue that closely. But for me, and I've seen
Speaker 1: enough of these games now what thirty five years going
Speaker 1: up there that after a big win for Arizona, the
Speaker 1: thing that they have to guard against are the letdown emotionally,
Speaker 1: whether the issue is good or not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but Arizona's definitely definitely going to come
Speaker 3: off a big high. But I would also say that
Speaker 3: just because that game did play, did take place all
Speaker 3: the way on Monday and not let's say forty forty
Speaker 3: eight hours for this contest on Saturday, I think maybe
Speaker 3: the high that Arizona is on as definitely you know,
Speaker 3: really diminished in its in its quality for for lack
Speaker 3: of a better term, when it comes to as two,
Speaker 3: I think this is probably a good chance that Jayden
Speaker 3: Queen Quint's is going to play you know, BJ Freeman,
Speaker 3: that might be you know, more TV deal, though he
Speaker 3: has already played injured early on in Big Twelve play,
Speaker 3: So I won't be shocked at both of them are
Speaker 3: going to be back playing, but again, how effective are
Speaker 3: they going to be because you know, going back to
Speaker 3: the Jan Stannon, I don't know if really he's one
Speaker 3: hundred percent healthy as we speak, because ever since he
Speaker 3: came back from that ankle injury, his numbers, his playover
Speaker 3: role has been way down and nothing like we've seen
Speaker 3: from him during the during non conference play. So I
Speaker 3: think that maybe on paper, in terms of bodies, a
Speaker 3: SU is going to get everybody back, But in terms
Speaker 3: of the health and effectiveness of each is each of
Speaker 3: those players, I think that's a huge unknown for Arizona
Speaker 3: State right now.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody has injuries, and it's kind of pulled
Speaker 2: up on Bobby here. But throughout the years, Bobby's had
Speaker 2: these really good teams that they start off hot and
Speaker 2: then they kind of fizzle out a fan or they
Speaker 2: start off so and they catch fire then and it's
Speaker 2: been kind of, I don't want to say him up
Speaker 2: and down tenure there for him, but a successful one
Speaker 2: given the fact where ASU basketball was before Bobby Hurley.
Speaker 2: But what is the feeling around the athletic department around
Speaker 2: the fan base of coach Hurley, and you know the
Speaker 2: success he's had in the future of him being at ASU.
Speaker 3: That's a great question, Troy. I mean, I think to
Speaker 3: call Bobby Hurley's ten year in TIMP complex and maybe
Speaker 3: even use the CLICHEV a roller coaster is really not
Speaker 3: far fetched. In my opinion, he almost has just as
Speaker 3: many winning seasons as he has losing seasons. You know
Speaker 3: what that year they're talking about twenty seventeen eighteen that
Speaker 3: started out started the year of guard you if you will.
Speaker 3: And here ASU comes in into Tucson, number three in
Speaker 3: the country, undefeated PAC twelve opener and lose that game
Speaker 3: to Arizona. But but even then, people didn't realize what
Speaker 3: was what was going.
Speaker 2: To follow, which, if you recall.
Speaker 3: Was a s U I believe finishing eighth or tenth
Speaker 3: and then in the Pacts of standing Pacts of standings.
Speaker 3: But just because they had such a great non conference resume,
Speaker 3: they're able to uh to squeak in uh and and
Speaker 3: getting get into the Anti A Tournament, and really uh
Speaker 3: a s U has yet to qualify to the tournament
Speaker 3: without making that stop in Dane, Ohio, and and trust
Speaker 3: me had got plenty a SU fans that don't consider
Speaker 3: that an into the tournament game, which obviously is an error,
Speaker 3: but they don't like that playing game. They just want
Speaker 3: a s U already to be uh in the field
Speaker 3: of of on one of the four regions without making
Speaker 3: that pit stop in Dayton. So even when when a
Speaker 3: SC had successful years, I think, uh, the AC fan
Speaker 3: base has looked at it as some someone in the
Speaker 3: cinical eye.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: And in terms of the future of Bobby Hurley, you know,
Speaker 3: that's a definitely interesting question, just because you have a
Speaker 3: new athetic director Grammar Scene who did not hire Bobby Hurley.
Speaker 3: You know, how much lee Wayne patience does he have.
Speaker 3: On the one hand, you know, playing in one of
Speaker 3: the toughest conferences in the Big twelve in America, in
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve, obviously going through a massive roster a turnover.
Speaker 3: But in the other hand, just seeing a team that
Speaker 3: frankly has regressed from its non conference play right now
Speaker 3: into interconference slate. So I think that is something that
Speaker 3: is a huge unknown. I mean, I wouldn't say that
Speaker 3: it's a given that Bobby Hurley is going to be
Speaker 3: here next year or not. And I think that you know,
Speaker 3: the staff members, probably behind closed doors, would probably say
Speaker 3: the name. It would hard for me to see Sue
Speaker 3: qualifying for the in tournament and Bobby Hurley not continuing.
Speaker 3: I think maybe that's the only guarantee you would have
Speaker 3: at this point. And yes, I know that the road
Speaker 3: for I was gonna say the two qualify after the
Speaker 3: Navy Tournament is definitely a bumpy wand and they're going to
Speaker 3: really have to clear a lot of obstacles that may
Speaker 3: look quite challenging right now, but I think right now
Speaker 3: it's really just a big unknown in terms of what
Speaker 3: the future holds for Bobby Hurley as being the coach
Speaker 3: for Arizona State and the next year, in the years
Speaker 3: to come, a lot is going to be determined, I
Speaker 3: think in the next couple of months.
Speaker 1: So one of the responses I thought you'd have to do,
Speaker 1: one of the choice questions was you know, how did
Speaker 1: you get here? And what's been the struggle? They've played
Speaker 1: a tougher conference schedule than Arizona. Arizona has yet to
Speaker 1: get into the teeth of the of their issues. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe in two weeks. You know, of course, they played
Speaker 1: Baylor here and they played I would state here. But
Speaker 1: you know it's okay, they played them here, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, issue and not to I'm not giving
Speaker 1: an alibi a issue with can because they pay Kansas
Speaker 1: and all these other teams, But there is that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it is definitely a valid points Steve.
Speaker 3: You know, and first of all, I think that even
Speaker 3: some ACU fans will have to tip their hat to Arizona,
Speaker 3: who did not look good at all in non conference play,
Speaker 3: and once the big twelfth sleeate began, it was almost
Speaker 3: like watching watching a brand new a brand new team
Speaker 3: out there. And I think with a fu, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a tough schedule. But you know, if you recall, uh,
Speaker 3: their their first half performance in Lawrence, Kansas was probably
Speaker 3: the best first half of ac played.
Speaker 1: All year long.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, maybe the elements of of Alan Allen
Speaker 3: field field House got to them in the second half
Speaker 3: and and the end up losing that game. You have
Speaker 3: a game against Baylor where at home, where they played
Speaker 3: arguably the worst first half they ever played this year.
Speaker 3: We're still able to get to get the game into overtime,
Speaker 3: but didn't play well uh in overtime at all. They
Speaker 3: play against UCF and they have their player of the
Speaker 3: leader his name is mc keishawn Hall, who scores forty
Speaker 3: points and that's the offense for the nights, the entire night.
Speaker 3: So it's you know, so even when they play against
Speaker 3: the better teams, and obviously Iowa State last Saturday they
Speaker 3: lead by seven at the half, another excellent first half
Speaker 3: and just not able to be consistent. So I think
Speaker 3: consistency has definitely eluded ASU. I mean sure, when you
Speaker 3: play teams like like Bay or Light Kansas, like Iowa State,
Speaker 3: if you're just gonna give just a little opening over
Speaker 3: there for your opponent to make a comeback and really
Speaker 3: to turn the tables around, they're absolutely going to do it.
Speaker 3: And I think that that's something in Aco has really
Speaker 3: been experiencing, you know, with the injury issues. I mean,
Speaker 3: it really is hard to be consistent. So that's something
Speaker 3: that in fairness is hurting as right now. But really,
Speaker 3: aside from that, the big twelve opener against b YU
Speaker 3: on the road where just Ac was not in the
Speaker 3: game at all, I don't know how many bad forty
Speaker 3: minute games as who played from there on app I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, they're not able to put two halves together,
Speaker 3: or they play game against Baylor where they played an
Speaker 3: excellent second half and maybe all the energy that they
Speaker 3: expended well just really caught up with them in overtime
Speaker 3: and they didn't play well and lost that game. So
Speaker 3: you know, it's not like as few as it's really
Speaker 3: being you know, taken to the cleaners on a nightly
Speaker 3: basis in the Big twelve. It's just not being able
Speaker 3: to be consistent, I be able to put a good
Speaker 3: forty minutes together. I mean maybe, I guess the win
Speaker 3: at West Virginia is probably the most complete effort we
Speaker 3: saw to date, and West Virginia was ranked in the
Speaker 3: top twenty five. Then you know, I don't know if
Speaker 3: this you know win at Colorado, which effectively was with
Speaker 3: a six man rotation, can give them any confidence that
Speaker 3: a host of those in the Wildcats. But like I said,
Speaker 3: the Wildcats right now are aren't a huge high I'm
Speaker 3: just playing outstanding basketball ever since, ever since a big
Speaker 3: Big Tell play started. So you know, the tests for
Speaker 3: AFU just seem to get harder and harder each and
Speaker 3: every game, and Saturday is not going to be an exception.
Speaker 3: But if you can see that consistency from ASU again,
Speaker 3: an element that really eluded them from.
Speaker 1: For most of the season.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe maybe you can see an upset, but
Speaker 3: I think that's a big iff, and you know, not
Speaker 3: to belabor the point, the health of this team is
Speaker 3: really in.
Speaker 1: Question, maybe not related to sport to basketball specifically, but
Speaker 1: how has the climate been with the new a D.
Speaker 1: With the new a D we had him on here,
Speaker 1: I guess in the summer, very bright, very energetic guy.
Speaker 1: Uh and obviously then you have this football season that's unbelievable, right,
Speaker 1: and then now this basketball season. Has he brought some energy?
Speaker 1: Do you know that he's going to be totally behind
Speaker 1: it with money or if that matters because the president?
Speaker 1: You know, what's the situation been?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think that just the theme in TIMP seems to
Speaker 3: be that when you're hiring alumnus, a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of good things happen. So Kenny Dillingham, head coach
Speaker 3: of the football team, Grammar Sini, the athletic director of
Speaker 3: the Sun Devils, it just seems that everything has been
Speaker 3: in a great trajectory ever since they got hired. And
Speaker 3: you know, I know, maybe some people kind of rolling
Speaker 3: their eyes, maybe more outside of MP than inside of MP.
Speaker 3: When you hear that phrase activates the value. But I
Speaker 3: think that's exactly what Kenny Dillingham and Grammarcy for that matter,
Speaker 3: have have been able to do. I just think when
Speaker 3: you have an alumnus in place in such important positions
Speaker 3: in the athletic department, you just you see the passion,
Speaker 3: you see the commitment. I think the fan base season
Speaker 3: individual like Grammar Sini, that they can relate that to them.
Speaker 3: I mean they were walking, you know, the same sidewalks
Speaker 3: of campus as Grammar Ciny was some twenty twenty five
Speaker 3: years ago when he When Gramercini talks about wanting the
Speaker 3: community to rally behind the team, you know, doing little
Speaker 3: things like like cutting up parking rates on game day
Speaker 3: in fifty percent, you know, offering one one dollar you know,
Speaker 3: water bottles and the season opener. That this is little
Speaker 3: stuff like that just shows us that this is like
Speaker 3: director that is listening to concerns with the fans, that
Speaker 3: wants to make this place better. And he wants to
Speaker 3: make this place better because he is part of his place.
Speaker 3: It's woven into his DNA. Even when even grandmer Centy
Speaker 3: left ASU, he just went fifteen miles up the road
Speaker 3: to downtown Phoenix to work for the Diamondbacks for several years.
Speaker 3: So I just think that that that connectivity with the
Speaker 3: valley is something that that you just can't fake. And
Speaker 3: everything that you do is you're not do doing just
Speaker 3: because it's your job description. You're doing it because you
Speaker 3: ultimately are working for a place that you cared deeply about,
Speaker 3: a place that's shaped you as a man, that shaped
Speaker 3: you as a professional. And I just think that passion
Speaker 3: and that commitment from Mrsini and obviously from from Kenny Dillingham,
Speaker 3: that this really shows a lot. So I think that
Speaker 3: fan base has been very, very pleased with a lot
Speaker 3: of things that grahamer Cini has said and done until now.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: But going back to an earlier question, know what's going
Speaker 3: to happen with the basketball team and then Bobby early
Speaker 3: in his future, you know that I think is one
Speaker 3: decision now that Grammercini is going to be really under
Speaker 3: the microscope, if you will, if the season that really
Speaker 3: does go south for the Sun Devil. So maybe right
Speaker 3: now you're still in the honeymoon phase. But when the
Speaker 3: tough decisions have to be made in terms of hiring
Speaker 3: firing coaches, coaches of some of the bigger programs in TENP.
Speaker 3: I'm really curious to see what the fan base reaction
Speaker 3: and sentiment is going to be at that point.
Speaker 1: Oh, we appreciate your time. Thanks a bunch. Wait wait, wait,
Speaker 1: give me a prediction, just real quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I think the SIGA is going
Speaker 3: to be a tough a tough one PRAAC to pull out,
Speaker 3: because again, I think Arizona's really just playing outstanding basketball,
Speaker 3: you know, for the last you know, five six weeks.
Speaker 3: I'm predicting. I would say, in eighty five seventy nine,
Speaker 3: Arizona Winnos.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the relatively close game. Okay, well the episode.
Speaker 1: We'll see you there, see up on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Thanks, I don't see on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to One on the Ball here on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. No, Steve Riverta, you Troy Hutcheon
Speaker 1: on Thursday. We're done with our interviews. If you'd like
Speaker 1: to call, we have about to I don't know ten
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, ten, ten twelve minutes. I'll give us a
Speaker 1: quick call. You have some breaking news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. Arizona football staff is out offering a
Speaker 2: bunch of kids right now, and CoA Malolulu just received
Speaker 2: an offer from Arizona. Now, if Arizona fans remember that
Speaker 2: last name, George mol Lulu former I was on a quarterback,
Speaker 2: his son has received an offer from the u of
Speaker 2: A and coach Brennan himself.
Speaker 1: So, assician does he play?
Speaker 2: I'm assuming quarterback. I haven't looked. I have not looked,
Speaker 2: so yeah.
Speaker 1: Well he was he was. I covered the team when
Speaker 1: he played him in Runnyville shared the position. We have
Speaker 1: George on every now and again in what a talented family.
Speaker 1: His daughters played at Mississippi State softball and U c
Speaker 1: l A Ye, this kid is very very good. I
Speaker 1: think he was like he was a young kid and
Speaker 1: doing really well. I think he might be a junior junior. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so because it's going to be the following class. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he's had every kid that he's has played the major
Speaker 1: major college sports.
Speaker 2: Talented family, one of those legacy families that you want
Speaker 2: to you want to keep it in right.
Speaker 1: No, he was very proud dad. He he talked about
Speaker 1: this kid here a while back because we saw he
Speaker 1: was putting up some numbers. I think he is a quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great numbers, great numbers. So we'll see, we'll see if
Speaker 1: he could pull off what time he didn't, kid, that's
Speaker 1: why I got.
Speaker 2: I got, well, you gotta you gotta shoot that in
Speaker 2: there with Tommy didn't. Yeah, well it's because my guy
Speaker 2: who gave me the info, Victor.
Speaker 1: Victor, he's a QB, my boy hobber.
Speaker 2: Yeah QB. So we'll see what happens. I don't know
Speaker 2: who should be good, you know, and that that's good
Speaker 2: for the program. When you get these legacy guys fans left,
Speaker 2: especially like the basketball program, you can afford to miss
Speaker 2: out on some of them. Football program, you really can't,
Speaker 2: especially at the kid end us up being good. It's
Speaker 2: like said, why didn't why didn't you go get him?
Speaker 2: What was the what was the issue with Bernette? Why
Speaker 2: didn't he Burnett? Yeah? I just the blocking was won
Speaker 2: his first two years, he really couldn't block very well.
Speaker 2: To a lot of injuries along the way kind of
Speaker 2: derailed him, especially this season.
Speaker 1: That was a sad thing because you know his dad
Speaker 1: was here, very good player, This guy had potential.
Speaker 2: Very talented, very talented kid, and you could see it
Speaker 2: was growing on him at times throughout his career at Arizona.
Speaker 2: I remember rapt with Alimable. He looked a little frustrated.
Speaker 2: Even though they won the bowl game. He didn't play
Speaker 2: very I mean he didn't play at all in the
Speaker 2: bowl game. Came back, worked hard, developed the blocking, and
Speaker 2: then gets hurt. I think it's just one of those
Speaker 2: situations where let's start off fresh and just clear, clear
Speaker 2: clear everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, okay, party best for both sides, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so. And then there's less pressure of being
Speaker 1: your dad son that too.
Speaker 2: And you know you saw Arizona Brannan tight Ends from
Speaker 2: San Jose State. They were recruiting tight Ends. So eventually
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, well, if I'm going to keep on
Speaker 2: getting injury, I'm not going to get out there on
Speaker 2: the field. We got to go somewhere.
Speaker 1: Right again, if you want to call five two zero four,
Speaker 1: one sixty, we could take the call, no problem. So
Speaker 1: you're going up Saturday. I'm sure that the crowd is
Speaker 1: going to be I don't know, maybe fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1: Typically it's about seventy five twenty five Arizona. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: this is not a this is not a team that
Speaker 1: I think locals have embraced. Yeah. No, what I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: because even Monday Nights game was not It was sold out,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't full.
Speaker 2: No, no. And when we say it was a great crowd,
Speaker 2: not in terms of numbers, but it was a great
Speaker 2: crowd in terms.
Speaker 1: Of vocal vocal, Yeah, vocal, very vocal. But let's remember
Speaker 1: also to the I would State had a lot of
Speaker 1: people there.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 1: It was probably the biggest or second biggest crowd for
Speaker 1: an opponent that I've seen.
Speaker 2: In the last thirty five years. It's the biggest one
Speaker 2: I can remember. Yeah, I think maybe Colorado their first
Speaker 2: year had a couple of fames.
Speaker 1: Peterson and this is the one I figured it could
Speaker 1: be rivalry with, is the Grand Canyon. Yeah, because the
Speaker 1: students are you know, the students are obnoxious. There was
Speaker 1: a girl behind us, remember, screaming and yelling and just
Speaker 1: doing the free throws. But and I think it was
Speaker 1: during break where they were able to get tickets.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it wasn't a larger abundance though, but they
Speaker 2: were allowed. I say there was a lot of them.
Speaker 1: There were because when they were doing really well, you
Speaker 1: could hear them. You could actually hear them. And it
Speaker 1: was not in what spot they were throughout the building.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I went to my friends who have tickets a
Speaker 1: few of them to see if they had gotten rid
Speaker 1: of their tickets, because that's how they got them, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were in sporadic spots. Yeah, it wasn't a group.
Speaker 1: It was in groups, so that I'm sure that a
Speaker 1: lot of the season ticket holders figured they did make
Speaker 1: a good penny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they probably did. And you know what, they
Speaker 2: probably attacked the ones where eight thirty at night. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's a Monday. I want to go to bed here.
Speaker 1: I just watch it on the show and watch it
Speaker 1: on TV and then you know, read about it the
Speaker 1: next day.
Speaker 2: Made for a good game, though.
Speaker 1: That was a very good game, a very good game
Speaker 1: because there was on it was out and then it
Speaker 1: came back with that sixteen points, sixteen to zero lead
Speaker 1: or run turned it up, played well, played defense, exceptionally
Speaker 1: well physically, and then just played well enough to win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: longdon huh? They should have never won that game. Did
Speaker 1: you watch to Houston Kansas game?
Speaker 2: I saw? I did not watch it. I was an
Speaker 2: incredible game, incredible game. I saw that what that Kansas
Speaker 2: up six? They should have never lost that game, like
Speaker 2: eighteen seconds. They should have never last that game of regulation.
Speaker 2: You should have never lost that game in overtime, and
Speaker 2: then they got beaten overtime. But you know what, isn't
Speaker 2: that Houston basketball in a nutshell? Underneath Calvin Samson finding ways,
Speaker 2: finding ways, being gritty and getting the w at the.
Speaker 1: M You that's who they are and that's what happened.
Speaker 2: That's their identity.
Speaker 1: Well is it? Arizona's no?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did they pull that off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it happens well, and not to
Speaker 2: the degree. But like, remember when Arizona played Houston back
Speaker 2: when Chase Buddinger got stepped on the base. That's one
Speaker 2: of the weirdest comebacks I've ever seen. They didn't have
Speaker 2: that feeling, but you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, And that's a good point
Speaker 1: because I was it was right there right in front
Speaker 1: of before Chase got stepped on. I forget the guy's name,
Speaker 1: because I had Chase on maybe a month or so ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about that because that was one of those
Speaker 1: dreams games and then propelled them to get to the
Speaker 1: to the tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they went on that winning street. They I
Speaker 2: believe they're down by ten with forty eight seconds. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, just unreal, right, I remember the stadium was
Speaker 2: almost empty by the time they started coming back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was crazy. It was crazy, and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say old to be I can't remember saying
Speaker 1: we stepped on his ogles, be something like that, stepped
Speaker 1: on his face and the rest is history. There was
Speaker 1: another one of those games, Yeah, you know, the UCLA game,
Speaker 1: the start, the Selene shot, blah blah, blah that you
Speaker 1: kind of always remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's my favorite. That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: Which one the sealine this slim.
Speaker 1: Yeah over overall follow.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah over well he backed up too, Yeah, because
Speaker 2: that Selene's dribbling now and everybody in the stae we
Speaker 2: knew he was going to shoot the ball and the
Speaker 2: follow gave him that one little yeah backup. That was it?
Speaker 1: About a distance of five feet shot about thirty feet? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: good game, I remember it. Well, anybody want to call
Speaker 1: we you have about five minutes, just about five minutes,
Speaker 1: five to four one six seventy four forty Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining me today.
Speaker 2: Sure, that's how much do you think? Joe Salve the
Speaker 2: hiring and Joe Salve is just re energized this program.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: In terms of what the outlook at the start of
Speaker 2: the off season two.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but it definitely came
Speaker 1: with jolt yeah and something that this program needed. What
Speaker 1: it all means, you don't know until until you're there
Speaker 1: right in the product on the field, yeah, yea yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because you can have all the recruits you had and
Speaker 1: if they don't produce blah blah, blah, but it's something
Speaker 1: that they needed at least to show that the people
Speaker 1: that they care and they're serious about getting better.
Speaker 2: Not only that serious about getting better. You're looking out
Speaker 2: there on you know, Twitter and all these social media apps.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you see Joe Salve offer this person,
Speaker 2: Joe Salve offer that person, Joe Salve offers this five star.
Speaker 2: It's like, Wow, They're they're really hitting the ground hard
Speaker 2: with Joe right right.
Speaker 1: Well, what about the new guys? Uh, the offensive coordinator yep,
Speaker 1: uh salvea. Uh, they've got like three four impact outside
Speaker 1: of Gonzales. He's not new, but the new guys they
Speaker 1: must be having some type of impact.
Speaker 2: Yeah, younger guys. Yeah, Miller tight end coach. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: they're they're hitting the ground hard with the new faces
Speaker 2: on the coaching staff and they're they're working it right.
Speaker 1: Uh A Keen still going to have a big impact.
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, Safety's coach and probably have
Speaker 2: some word in terms of defensive scheme because he always
Speaker 2: throws his you know, voice out there and you take
Speaker 2: it into consideration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, still a voice of reason. See what happens, We'll
Speaker 1: see what good Gonzales is I think I think he'll
Speaker 1: be fine. I mean, once a great defense coordinator, you
Speaker 1: have that that niche. Yeah, I mean Wade Phillis is
Speaker 1: a horrible head coach for the Dallas Cowboys and Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: Goes back to being a difference coordinator, great defense coordinator.
Speaker 1: It's funny. I ran into him at the Breeders' Cup
Speaker 1: in the elevator because he owns some horses and he
Speaker 1: not a not a powerful assuming man. But on TV
Speaker 1: he looked like that, you know, big guy. He wasn't
Speaker 1: that big. He was older now obviously, so let's hope
Speaker 1: for me that when you get older you lose weight.
Speaker 1: But we'll see, we'll see what happens. Good good, hier
Speaker 1: obviously an excellent higher well. Oh so we'll see. Uh okay,
Speaker 1: so I'll see you up in Tempe, yup. See they're
Speaker 1: bright and early, Brida and early. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay tomorrow night or go up early Saturday morning.
Speaker 1: It's really because it's CBS game, right game. Do we
Speaker 1: know who's doing the game. I don't know. We'll find
Speaker 1: out tomorrow, probably before the press COMMO tomorrow. Ye, yeah,
Speaker 1: Tommy will address us I mean a random player we
Speaker 1: don't know yet, right, uh, maybe maybe Carter. Has Carter
Speaker 1: been up there league, I don't think so. I can't
Speaker 1: remember last time he was uping good time, Yeah, a
Speaker 1: good time. He's had a good, nice impact. Luck has
Speaker 1: been up there, and I think he's he's one of
Speaker 1: the guys that they need him to show up now
Speaker 1: now now that we know what he can do.
Speaker 2: He's he's the type of player that an Arizona team
Speaker 2: hasn't had in quite some time or maybe ever entering March,
Speaker 2: where you know what you get in these physical games.
Speaker 2: He's gonna bump and grind and give you that that
Speaker 2: push against the physicality.
Speaker 1: Right well, showy, thanks for joining us, Thanks everybody for listening.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you guys tomorrow.