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Speaker 1: I came from an area in upstate New York where

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there are a lot of different cryptids and anomalies. Most

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people hear New York and they think the city. But

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my part of New York is the Adirondack area. The

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city folks scoff at us and they call us Hicks.

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Because of that, I can sympathize with many Southerners who

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get the same tag from the same people. I don't

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know why that makes me laugh, because, you know what,

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I've never had anybody you can hear my accent. You

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can tell where I'm from. I've never had any I've

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had people laugh at my accent. I have customers in

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California and they like to They'll I'll call them and

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be talking to a project manager about an issue. Sometimes

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they'll all get in his office and put me on

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a speakerphone to hear me talk. They don't know I

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do a podcast, and I want to tell them, Hey,

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all you got to do is click on my YouTube channel.

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You could hear me talk all day anyway. I just

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thought that was funny. So hit rednecks or rednecks anywhere.

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Back to the story. The Mohawk Valley where I grew

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up is best known for the Native American tribes in

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the general Herkimer h e r k I E R

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I don't know what that word is. Back in nineteen

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eighty two, when I was a typical teenager of about fourteen,

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it became known for something else, entirely at least for me.

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My mother and I were making our normal weekend trip

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to visit my grandparents, who lived half an hour away.

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The drive took us through farmland with lots of hills

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and wooded areas. Like any teen I was sitting in

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the front seat with my head pressed against the passenger window,

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and I was staring out at the passing countryside while

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listening to the radio. We were only about halfway there

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when Mom slowed down and said, look at that, Sue.

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Mom was not the excitable tighte and if she raised

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her voice or sounded alarmed, something had to be terribly wrong.

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She was pointing up to the sky at the largest

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bird I had ever seen. It was like something out

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of the Land of the Lost TV show that I

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used to watch as a kid. It wasn't flapping its wings,

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but rather gliding across the sky. It was black with

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bat like wings and had a crook in its neck,

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and it reminded me of an atom's apple, And there

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was something sticking out of the back of its head

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that came to a point. It wasn't covered in black

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feathers like a thunderbird. It was well like a bat.

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It's hard to say how high up this thing was,

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but I guess it must have been one hundred feet.

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Its wingspan was a lot wider than that of a

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Cessna airplane. I clearly remember my mom saying it looks

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like a pterodactyl. We watched it for a bit and

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then went about our travels. For the life of me,

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I can't believe she did not sit there longer or

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try to follow it. As a teenager, I was more

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interested in music and roller skating and boys, and it

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wasn't until later that I began to think back on

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it and really question what the heck did I see. Recently,

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I raised the topic with a friend of mine who

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lives in the area. Her husband is a hunter, and

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he and his friends have often commented that there are

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some unusually large birds in this area. He even claimed

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to know where some of the nests used to be.

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I plan on looking into this further If I had

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seen this today, I would have dismissed it as some

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electronic device like a drone. But back in nineteen eighty

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two that would not have been an obvious option. The

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military had drones at that time, but civilians didn't have

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access for another twenty years or more. Therefore, I have

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no answer that bizarre creature. Within a year of that sighting,

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my mom and I had another strange experience five miles

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from where we saw that ungodly bird. There've always been

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stories surrounding the Mohawk Jordanville area about strange lights and

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objects in the sky, but this time we were headed

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home from my grandparents. It was a Sunday night and

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already quite dark out. Again. Teenage me had my head

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pressed against the window, watching the scenery pass and waiting

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to get home. Oh my god, Sue, look at that,

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Mom said, in that same slightly elevated tone that indicated

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she meant business. She pulled over onto the side of

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the road and put the car in part. Sitting in

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the sky above us was a large round object. The

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top was barely visible, but tiny lights were blinking around

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the edge of it. There was a circle in the

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middle that had an orange hue to it, and the

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bottom was bright and therefore easier to see. It was

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making absolutely no noise at all. It was at least

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one hundred feet up and a couple of football fields

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in length. Mom said that she needed to call Griffith's

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Air Force Base, which was located half an hour away

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in Rome, New York at the time, and we sat

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there for a little longer as she opened and closed

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a glove box looking for a camera she knew was

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not there. It was obvious that Mom was shook up

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by what she was seeing. The next thing I knew,

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she threw the car in drive and floored it out

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of there. Do not tell your friends about this, she said,

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they'll think you're crazy. Ten minutes later, we were home

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and I was doing exactly what she told me not

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to do. After Mom hung up from the Air Force base,

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I called my best friend and I told her the

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whole story, and then I listened while she related it

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to her brothers. She's crazy. She didn't see anything. They

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told her. Mom was right. I decided not to tell

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anyone else about it after that. Still, I couldn't help

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but wonder why Mom didn't grab her camera and head

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back up there. She probably thought it would be gone

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by then. After we both made our phone calls, Mom

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reminded me of something that happened eight years earlier when

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we were in Palatin, New York. I would have been

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around four or five at the time. We were on

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our way to pick up my stepfather from work at midnight.

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I brought my blanket and pillow, and I was curled

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up in the back seat sleeping when I awoke to

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the sound of voices. There were vehicles around us in

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both lanes, and they were at a standstill. Mom was

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talking to a man through the window about something up

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in the sky. I naturally looked up to see what

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they were talking about, and there in the sky was

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a round, disk shaped object with flashing lights around it.

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It wasn't as large as the one Mom and I saw,

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but I remember it having the same orange circle. I

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don't remember much beyond that, except for hearing Mom explaining

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to my stepdad why we were late. Years later, crop

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circles were found in the general area on Vickerman Hill,

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which is also Route twenty eight in Mohawk. I went

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to see them, like a lot of others did. Even

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got a taste of an elixir made from the down

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crops in the circles. They were giving people drops of

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it at a local fair. I have other stories, but

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I think this is enough for now. Thanks for reading

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my story. I can't stay silent for another day. I

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have the right amount of booze in me to relive

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this one more time, but not so much that I'm

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in coherent. It was a summer of nineteen ninety two,

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and I had decided to live the best summer of

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my life before becoming a productive member of society. I

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fished and camped and hiked throughout my entire youth, but

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that was all about to come to an end with

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two simple words, I do. I left my parents' house

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early that morning with my pistol on my hip. I

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had a rifle. The park I was headed to was

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a couple of hours away and not often visited by anyone.

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I had heard all the wild stories about it, and

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I was anxious to see it for myself. At first glance,

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I was not disappointed. Off in the distance, I could

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see the open patches high up on the hills and

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bordered by clusters of trees. To the left of the

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road was a dry river bed, that would make an

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easy trail for me toime stood still in this place,

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old moss covered rock fences were the only evidence that

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human hands had ever been there. I was thrilled as

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I took my first step, wondering what lay before me,

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if only I had known. After a couple of hours

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and a few stops, I came to a spot where

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the creek narrowed with a three foot bank. A cluster

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of trees sat to the left, and to the right

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was an open field of wildflowers. The wind that I

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had heard whistling through the trees all day was gone,

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and I was suddenly aware of something dark. It was

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a gut twisting feeling that came out of nowhere. I stopped,

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and I held my breath, afraid even to exhale, though

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I had no idea why. And then I saw it.

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Up ahead one hundred yards to my right was something dark.

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It was as if that feeling had taken physical form.

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There was no movement or sound, yet I felt it

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demanded my attention, so slowly I reached for my binoculars,

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and immediately I was hit with a blast of don't

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do that. I stopped dead for a single moment before

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continuing to lift them to my eyes. Why didn't I

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listen into that inner voice? There up ahead in the bushes,

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it was a thing, a massive, black, hairy thing. I

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tried to tell myself it was a bear, but I

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couldn't lie that well. It was a little afternoon and

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the sun was high in the sky. The downward shadow

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it cast made the thing's face darker. Its eyes were

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cloaked under its massive brow, But somehow I knew it

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was glaring at me. I could see its fangs, Yes,

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it had fangs. It was contrasted against its black face.

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There was no definition to its chest, but it was

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incredibly wide. I felt sick. My knees buckled, and my

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head began to swim. Now I reached for the riverbank

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to steady myself, and I saw the creature vanish somewhere

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inside me. I felt a bit of relief, thinking it

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had left, and within seconds it popped its head up again.

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Now it was seventy yards away, and it stared its dark,

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evil intent at me through black, vacant eye sockets. It

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seemed to be saying, in my mind, if only you

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hadn't looked. It stretched up and over as if it

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was getting a better look, and then it vanished again.

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I stumbled backwards, fighting the urge to turn and run,

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and my mind raced. And some will tell you that

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they think of their loved ones, or they might save

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the idea becoming a part of a missing four one

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one phenomenon uncrossed their minds. Well, that wasn't the case

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for me. I thought about how this thing might attack me,

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and how bad it would hurt, and how long it

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would take to die. And I wondered if it would

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rip me apart or eat me while I still struggled

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to get away. Every thought was a horror, worse than

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the last. Now I heard it making noise, as if

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it wanted me to be scared. I had heard that

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blood was sweeter when a dren one was dumped into it,

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so I wondered if this was what the thing was doing.

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It stomped and broke branches and huffed as it moved

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through the brush, and again it raised its head, only

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forty yards away. Its details were now more defined. It

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was more disgusting than I imagine, its face glistening in

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the sun. A patch on its chest also shimmered as

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silvery strings ran from the corners of its mouth. That

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mouth slid its face in two. It was wide and

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slightly parted, giving it an almost grinning effect. Its head

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and body were all one. If it had a neck,

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it was surrounded by pure muscle. If I were describe

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it honestly, I would only be able to say that

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it was big, it was black, and it was horrific.

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Again it vanished, and each time it did, it moved

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so fast that it blurred out of sight. It seemed

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unnatural in its movement. This sick game of peekaboo was

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more than my mind could take in. And I struggled,

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and part of me was resigned to death, while another part,

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a more primal part, wanted to run. Still, another part

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of me said I need to fight. These emotions combined

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to create a mind of warping, stomach churning mess. I

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slowly began to back up, afraid to look behind me

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or even turn ahead. And the noises were getting louder

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and closer, and I began to say the Lord's prayer.

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It popped his head up again from twenty feet away.

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It was emboldened, and it stood erect, craning to see me.

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It rose well above the bushes that I guessed were

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probably six feet tall. It was running out of brush

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and soon it would be in the clearing across from me,

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and I began to cry. I knew this was the end.

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There was nothing I could do to avoid it, and

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I snapped out of myself pity as the thing disappeared

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once again to the foliage. Then it stepped out of

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the brust, slightly bent at the waist, its arms hanging

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at its sides. They were tipped with claws that I

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couldn't stop staring at. Its body. Heaved with each breath

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that grew increasingly faster as it seemed to be working

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itself into a frenzy, and it wheezed when it inhaled

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faster and faster it huffed in and out. Then it

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went silent in slow motion. I watched it as it

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bent its knees and leaned forward and threw its arms back,

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ready to jump, and I was falling backwards when all

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help broke loose. The silence was shattered by something exploding

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to my left, and it showered the creek bed with shrapnel.

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I felt a gust of wind as a reddish brown

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blur flew out of the chaos and hit the creature's

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square on only an empty space loomed before me. Now

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then I was hit by a sound wave that came

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from the other side of the brush, and it vibrated

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me to my core. It was followed by deep thumps

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that shook the ground and rattled my teeth. I rolled

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and tried to force my body to move, but I couldn't.

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I could only lie there, feeling and hearing what sounded

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like a freight train and bombs bursting all around me.

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I'm not sure how long it was before I could

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move again, to my horror. When I finally did, I

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was moving toward the source of the noise, almost transl like.

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I inched to the edge of the creek and peered

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over the side. Thirty feet away. Two monsters were fighting

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that were biting and clawing and clubbing and tearing at

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each other. It was a dog fight. Each was twisting

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and turning to get the upper hand, and jaws snapped

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and heads bobbed and weaved. It was primal and it

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was vicious, and I clamped my hands over my ears

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to block out the screaming that was emitting from each bite.

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Finally I realized what had saved me. It was a sasquatch.

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I had watched all the shows and seen all the

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trail cam footage. As I was beginning to understand, it

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became distracted for a moment, which allowed the other creature

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to get its feet up against the bigfoot's chest, and

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with a massive push, it flipped the sasquatch onto its

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back and leapt on him, biting down on his upper thigh.

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The scream of pain was so much louder than the

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other sounds I had heard, and once again I fell

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to the ground and I covered my ears. The tables

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had turned. The young sasquatch was now in trouble. He

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was the one fending off the clubbing blows. He was losing.

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I knew I had to do something, but I didn't

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know what. If that creature won, I would be dinner again.

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Then I remembered my gun. I knew I couldn't kill it,

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but maybe I could distract that thing long enough to

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give the sasquatch a chance. And I took a deep

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breath and I raised my rifle. The monsters was moving

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too fast to get a clean shot. Most of its

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body was moving too fast, and then with an almost

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perverse pleasure. I realized the only part of it that

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wasn't moving too fast was its backside. Almost snickered at

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the thought of shooting it there. I started to pull

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the trigger, and a massive scream, louder than anything I

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had heard so far, burst through the air from my

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far right, and spinning around, I saw an even larger

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beast break through the tree line and rush headlong into

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the fray. The monster straightened up and braced for the attack,

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but it was too late. The larger squatch had already

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reached it, hitting it in its back so hard that

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the top of its head snapped back and bounced off

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its massive back with a resounding crack, and it crumpled

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forward to its face. Seconds passed like hours as the

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two watched, waiting for a movement that never came, and

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a kick to the side confirmed that the monster would

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never move again. The victor raised his head and sniffed

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the air and screamed a victory roar before grabbing the

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monster's ankle, dragging it off into the trees. The first

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bigfoot now turned its focus on me as it stood up.

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The sight of its nine foot frames and a shudder

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through me. It was studying me as it cautiously inched forward,

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and when I realized that I was pointing my rifle

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at it with my finger on the trigger, I lowered

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my rifle and that appeared to give it some relief. However,

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it began to move faster toward me. Maybe it was fear,

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and maybe it was the crash after such an adrenaline rush.

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I couldn't say. All I know is that the edges

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of my vision began to darken in the earth was

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beginning to spin, and the last thing I saw was

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the ground flying up to meet my face. When I awoke,

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my head was pounding and I felt ill. I rested

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my head between my knees and then hailed through my

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mind and exhaled through my mouth, fighting the urge to

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go up the cool night air. And then I looked around.

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I was propped up against my truck with my rifle

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at my side. Had this been a nightmare? Had I

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never left my parking spot? Had I nodded off instead

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and had a bad dream. I began to question myself mentally,

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replaying the events that led up to this moment. It

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had to have been a dream. I convinced myself that

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I had never left my truck, and I got myself

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off the ground and turned to get in, wanting nothing

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more than to get home. That was when I saw

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the huge handprint on the hood of my truck, placed

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exactly where someone would have placed their hand to steady

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themselves while setting something on the ground. My froze and

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suddenly aware the cold wet spot in my pants where

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I had soiled myself, had to face the truth. I

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have never moved so fast in my life. I never

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looked back, nor have I ever told this story to anyone.

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For years, that thing stalked my dreams. Sometimes it caught me.

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On those occasions, I would wake up screaming and flailing

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my arms. Those dreams dropped a year ago, so I

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figured it was time to share my story, only hope

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that telling it doesn't invite that creature to make a

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nocturnal comeback. I had recently relocated back to New Mexico

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from the East Coast in twenty and fifteen after thirty

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years of being away. Reconnecting with old friends and chatting

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over high school memories was great. I noticed in our

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time together that everyone seemed to discuss what I deemed

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conspiracy theories. I was never one to judge, but I

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would listen. On the inside. I would find humor in

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what was being said. That was how I approached things

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back then. Not one to go too far on being real,

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I entertained it with my wit. I was not one

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who did the sci fi thing either, or watch Star

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Trek type shows. We all know what New Mexico is

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known for, but that was not my thing. Then four

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months of settling back into desert life, and I was

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outside at night and I saw these two lights off

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in the sky moving around each other, almost like the

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two were playing. Is how I took it. I watched

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for a few minutes and decided to grab some pictures

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in a video so I could show my conspiracy theory

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friends as I chuckled, but I wanted the inclusion to

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be honest. I went inside to see what I had

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captured on film, and the two dots in the sky

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far off weren't worthy of sharing, and in trying to edit,

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I must have turned on my flash accidentally. I wanted

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to try again, so I headed back out to get

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more evidence. Luckily they were still out there and still

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well what I called playing, moving around each other and

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chasing each other, but it was apparent two lights separated

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from each were moving. I pointed my phone at the

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sky and I went to snap a photo and my

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flash went off pointing at these lights, and then they stopped.

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I was busted and I ran inside, laughing to myself

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that I had been caught. But really, in my mind,

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I guess I didn't think anything more than just a

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coincidence that they had stopped. It wasn't more than a

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few minutes, and I mustard up the nerve to go

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back out and try again. After turning off the flash

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on my phone's camera and I walked outside and under

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the street light, I saw something strange. It looked like

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there were five baseball size shining objects under the light.

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I rubbed my eyes, thinking that I was just seeing

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starburst of metal, and I quickly dismissed that idea so

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I could get more pictures. I no longer saw the

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objects in the sky, and as I was looking, I

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used my phone zoom option with the video recording on,

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and proceeded to search the sky, hoping to find the

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two objects again. I was recording for five seconds when

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a gold, metallic baseball sized orb thing popped up from

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underneath and was directly in front of my phone. It

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scared me so bad I jumped and I ran into

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the door, stopping to see clearly five of the same

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gold orbs that were floating under my street light. Those

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were the lights I had spotted earlier, and blew off

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with a laugh. I was inside within seconds, praying the

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blood of Jesus over my home. It was no longer

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a funny joke, but very real, and I felt like

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my heart was going to explode from beating so fast.

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My life changed in an instant that night. My awareness

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and following your podcast should tell you that I have

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since changed my entire mindset on what is really going

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on in the world, and I no longer make jokes

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and take these things lightly. I have that five second

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video storage somewhere and I will afford it to you

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once I locate it. But since that night, I have

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seen and documented more things in the sky than I

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can count. And I experienced a lot of strangeness for

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the next year following my first sighting, and it was

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a difficult time in my life. I must admit that

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my phone was my only proof I had so as

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not to appear crazy or on some mind altering drug,

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and I guess I had to prove it to myself

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as well. I learned later that I could not tell

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those closest to me about this event because forty years

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of solid, well respected and sound minded friendship became distance

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and a doubting of credibility took its place. I learned

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it was best to keep silent. That night changed me,

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and my life has never been the same. Things settled

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down after that year, and I committed myself to learning

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all I could regarding these things that we have been

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told that do not exist. I learned that the military

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base in my areas where Eisenhower was reported to have

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had secret meetings with aliens and made a trade agreement

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with them in nineteen fifty four, it's easy to find

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if you do a search. Witnesses are available. The point

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of it all is to let people know not to

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doubt or make light of what you think doesn't exist,

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because the wake up call is not anything you could

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ever be prepared for.

