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And we usually talk to Ap Dylan on 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,880 Mondays at two o'clock, but we were off for Memorial 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,240 Day and so we have her today. 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Ap. How are you? 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,119 Speaker 3: I'm doing well? How are you? 15 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: I am doing well. Ap is a reporter for the 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,679 North State Journal. You can read her work at nsjonline 17 00:00:45,719 --> 00:00:49,159 dot com. She also publishes her own substack newsletter called 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,679 More to the Story. And that's where we start with. 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,960 Reverend William Barber, known for his Moral Monday protesting at 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,159 the North Carolina General Assembly low those many years ago, 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,400 turned it into a national brand. 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Now it's called the. 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,439 Speaker 2: The Poor People's Campaign, I think, and he's planning another 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,120 march into a legislative hall I think in Congress right 25 00:01:15,519 --> 00:01:16,400 sometime in June. 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,159 Speaker 3: So he stays active on Washington in June for a 27 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:20,200 moral budget. 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, for a moral budget. Which do you remember when 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,719 the legislature ran the numbers on his moral budget demand 30 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:32,159 here in North Carolina, and it was something like sixty 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,280 billion dollars or something, just. 32 00:01:35,359 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: As some ridiculous number way up in the bees. 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he's look, he's a leftist. He stepped 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,599 into a power vacuum that existed after the North Carolina 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,879 Democrat Party basically collapsed around twenty ten, and they had 36 00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:54,480 no leadership, they couldn't fundraise, they were actually going to 37 00:01:54,519 --> 00:01:58,319 have their their headquarters. They were going to get kicked 38 00:01:58,359 --> 00:02:00,319 out of their headquarters because they couldn't pay the rent. 39 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:04,560 And so he then starts these Monday Marches, the Moral 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,719 Monday Movement, or as I call it, the Momo Mo. 41 00:02:07,359 --> 00:02:13,719 And so he starts marshaling these marchers, and they go 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,319 into the legislature, they disrupt the meetings, they scream and chant, 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,719 they get themselves arrested on purpose, and all of that theater. 44 00:02:21,159 --> 00:02:25,039 So why are we talking about Reverend Barber Well Ap 45 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:29,719 You've got a hold of some court documents that were 46 00:02:29,719 --> 00:02:35,120 filed by his now ex wife Rebecca. They've been married 47 00:02:35,159 --> 00:02:39,840 forty years and they had a divorce. They got a 48 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:45,080 divorce and I guess what last year, and they went 49 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,680 through mediation to avoid going to court and fighting it out. 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,479 But the mediation has not been successful. So now we 51 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,960 have court documents. All right, So what's the big takeaway 52 00:02:57,039 --> 00:02:59,520 from the court documents that are now available? 53 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: Well, there's two things. The first one is that his 54 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,599 ex wife had alleged marital and misconduct against him for 55 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,360 apparently a relationship. We're living with someone who worked for 56 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,080 one of his organizations. I'm not sure which one it was. 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,280 He also had an organization called Repairs of the Breach, 58 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,199 which is an offshoot of his Moral Monday and Poor 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:28,080 People's campaign stuff going on, and in that organization, she's 60 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:33,159 alleging that moneys from that nonprofit were being funneled to 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:39,080 Barber to pay her alimony. And she goes on to 62 00:03:39,159 --> 00:03:42,719 list the financial status of Repairs of the Breach from 63 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,360 twenty twenty to twenty twenty three, and the totals coming 64 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,439 in the million dollar range. Yeah, multiple million dollars. 65 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got a million a year, Yeah, five million 66 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:53,120 a year or so in revenue, which is just astounding, 67 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:58,759 and so the argument is that the repairers of the 68 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Breach nonprofit, it needs to be attached to the cloiint 69 00:04:03,719 --> 00:04:08,000 to the to this court case now because he was 70 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,159 sending money. 71 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: For ways to pay out the alimony. So she's looking 72 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,599 for more assets basically that would support funding the alimony 73 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:16,720 that she's asking for. 74 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: Right and it's like seven grand a month that he's 75 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:23,319 paying her. Seven thousand dollars a month he's paying her, 76 00:04:23,879 --> 00:04:28,199 And according to what I saw in the documents, she's 77 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:31,560 saying that she would get checks directly from repairers of 78 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,000 the breach. 79 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:37,319 Speaker 3: Well, it looks like the amount came to Barber first 80 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:39,399 and then he cut the check to her. But the 81 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,439 discovery that she's seen so far, in the document she's 82 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:46,199 seen so far, it looks like she's implying that they 83 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:48,000 were funneling the money to him and he was sending 84 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,639 it to her. So it's interesting, you know. I mean, 85 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:53,959 if you're looking at the twenty twenty three filings for 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,160 this Repairs of the Breach group, it's got revenues of 87 00:04:57,199 --> 00:05:00,199 around five point one eight million and expend this is 88 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,879 of over six million, so they're in the red there. 89 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:07,120 But Barber's personal compensation in that filing is over twenty 90 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,720 two twenty two and wait, sorry, what is that? Twenty 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:16,160 two two hundred twenty four thousand. Sorry, and their total 92 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:19,240 assets are listed at over eight point twenty six million, 93 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,040 So I mean this was organization for a nonprofit doing 94 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,839 pretty well. Yeah. 95 00:05:25,079 --> 00:05:25,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 96 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: So also there was a mention here according to the filing, 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:35,000 and again this is a filing from Rebecca Barber, although 98 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,120 she is listed as the defendant in this case, that 99 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,439 because Reverend Barber was the original plaintiff for the divorce. 100 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, he wanted to go through the flu 101 00:05:46,199 --> 00:05:50,759 mediation and that just fell apart apparently, So she's listed. 102 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:54,279 I mean, there's various financial institutions listed throughout the documents 103 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,399 as according to what she filed in the discovery motions. 104 00:05:58,439 --> 00:06:01,279 And now she's filed another discovery to get more into 105 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:03,800 the repairs of the breach finances. 106 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: So there was a line in here also that I 107 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,439 saw that he was deposed for part of this, and 108 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:20,120 his deposition, she says, quote revealed potentially inappropriate interactions with 109 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:26,959 two female employees. And then after the deposition, Reverend Barber 110 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:31,199 married a woman named Della Owen who happened to be 111 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:35,800 his head of security at Repairers of the Breach. Yes, 112 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:41,199 And the accusation here is essentially that Repairers of the 113 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:46,639 Breach was used in order to shield marital assets from 114 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,959 the discovery and distribution. So this way wouldn't be calculated 115 00:06:51,959 --> 00:06:55,000 that that amount of money that he could he could 116 00:06:55,519 --> 00:07:00,439 secret away in that organization could not be a hatched 117 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,720 by her with the alimony. 118 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's correct. And what's also interesting is her 119 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:11,800 alimony counterclaim filing also says that Barber is employed by 120 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,279 Yale University and earns approximately two hundred k per year 121 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:18,279 from that. So he's got that plus the two hudred 122 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:20,519 and twenty four k from Repairs of the Preacher. Who 123 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,399 knows what he's pulling in from the poor People's campaign. Oh, 124 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,360 I'm sure not getting money from every angle. 125 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:29,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like this. It's such a grift, it 126 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:33,160 really is. And this guy, Like I have not been 127 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:35,560 fooled by this guy from the moment he came on 128 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,000 the scene. He's got a facial expression that when I 129 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,240 see him do interviews and talk to like the Capitol 130 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:45,279 police when they were having their confrontations, Like I just 131 00:07:45,839 --> 00:07:49,279 like the look on his face, it screams to me, 132 00:07:49,839 --> 00:07:52,360 I know, I am lying. I know this is theater, 133 00:07:52,519 --> 00:07:55,000 this is a performance. Are you buying it? Is anybody 134 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,519 buying it? He's just got this look about him that 135 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,360 he doesn't believe what he's saying. And I mean, look, 136 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:05,480 divorce is sad. I understand that, and like that's I 137 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,720 don't wish any ill will on him or his wife 138 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:10,360 going through this nasty divorce. But on the other hand, 139 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:14,600 like if you were using nonprofit money to pay off 140 00:08:15,519 --> 00:08:17,199 your alimony, like. 141 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: That's not appropriate at all. 142 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:21,959 Speaker 2: And yeah, probably illegal, So I'm not And she has 143 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,680 not alleged that yet. She hasn't said there's no there's 144 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,000 no accusations of illegal activity at this point. 145 00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:31,199 Speaker 3: But she just doesn't seem suspect, you know. And I 146 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:34,720 bet she's probably regretting having gotten arrested in twenty seventeen 147 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:38,960 alongside her husband and one of their daughters, also named Rebecca, 148 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:41,600 but with a different spelling. Yeah, during one of the 149 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:45,080 protests at the legislature. And I've got that muge shot 150 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,039 at the end of the article there because well, you know, 151 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,440 why not I had it all right? 152 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:50,799 Speaker 1: Why not? 153 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: Let me real quick? I got about a minute and 154 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,480 a half. But I do want to make mention of this. 155 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,240 There's a SAM memo. I had not heard this, but 156 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,679 the code name is SAM and it stands for Speaking 157 00:09:04,279 --> 00:09:06,799 with American Men. So I think it should be called 158 00:09:06,799 --> 00:09:11,240 the SWAM. But whatever, speaking with American men a strategic plan? 159 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,200 What is the SAM? Well? 160 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 3: The New York Times dropped this story earlier in the 161 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,240 week or over the weekend, and basically it's a twenty 162 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:27,600 million dollar effort by Democrats to there. It outlines how 163 00:09:27,639 --> 00:09:30,919 they need to learn how to invest in quote the 164 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,360 study the syntax and language and content that gains attention 165 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,759 and virality in these spaces. And by these spaces they 166 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,960 mean mail voters. And the Times article also says it 167 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,720 recommends buying advertisements and video games, among other things. 168 00:09:49,399 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: WHOA wait a minute, So you're going to try to 169 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,600 reach men by advertising in video games? 170 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: Do many even play video games? Are we aware of 171 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:00,320 the US. 172 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: Huge portions of the male vote from ages you know, 173 00:10:03,039 --> 00:10:05,600 eighteen all the way up into the fifties. Yeah, so 174 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,919 that was a big deal. So I mean, you know, 175 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,440 as I say in the article, they're spending twenty million 176 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,039 dollars to study American men like Jane Goodall study gorillas. 177 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,159 Speaker 2: You know, there you go. Have they considered more cursing. 178 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,039 Maybe that mix in some cursing, lots and lots of cussing. 179 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:23,879 Speaker 3: I think something like that. 180 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:24,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 181 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: It also reminds me of Data Lash's twenty sixteen book. 182 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,600 The title of that was Flyover Nation. You can't run 183 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:32,200 a country you've never been to. Yeah, and I would 184 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,919 say that the Democrats have never been to their local 185 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,080 local municipalities or to see their voters, to see what 186 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,039 a real man looks like. 187 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: I guess, are you saying Tim Walls didn't check that box? 188 00:10:44,799 --> 00:10:45,200 Come now? 189 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:49,279 Speaker 1: Nope, right, Ap Dylan, always enjoy it. 190 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: I appreciate your flexibility on the date change here, but 191 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,639 we'll talk with you next Monday. 192 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, take care now, all right, thank you. 193 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,919 Speaker 2: That's Ap Dylan from More to the story. That's her substack. 194 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:02,159 You can subscribe to that. 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Mail orders 213 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,519 are accepted to get all the details that create a 214 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,759 video dot com so ap Dylon just mentioned they're the 215 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:16,840 New York Times story on the code name Sam Speaking 216 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:23,799 with American Men or SWAM a strategic plan and promises 217 00:12:23,879 --> 00:12:28,039 investment to study the syntax, language and content that gains 218 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:33,279 attention and virality in these spaces. And above all, we 219 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:37,600 must shift from a moralizing tone. Well, then you'll have 220 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:43,000 no tone at all. Let's think this through people. Same 221 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:45,799 New York Times story one Democratic rocking. 222 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,159 Speaker 1: This is from Fox News. 223 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,039 Speaker 4: One Democratic researcher as roughly two hundred and fifty swing 224 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:56,360 voters to compare the two parties to animals. Voters equated 225 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:01,639 Democrats to tortoises, slugs, and sloths. They viewed Republicans as 226 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,159 apex predators, like lions, tigers, sharks. Now, the report goes 227 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,080 on to say that voters are hungry for people to 228 00:13:10,279 --> 00:13:14,080 actually stand up for them, and recent polls obviously back 229 00:13:14,159 --> 00:13:14,600 that up. 230 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: All right, so that's not a great that's not a 231 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,519 great result for Democrats to be known as the party 232 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:26,440 of slugs, okay, and sloths because they're not moving, they're 233 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,279 not doing stuff or whatever. They're lazy or something. I 234 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:35,600 don't know. But the New York Times headline how Donald 235 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:40,600 Trump has remade America's political landscape. The Democrats' problems run 236 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:46,039 deep nearly everywhere. Trump's victory in twenty four was not 237 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,679 an outlier. It was the culmination of continuous gains by 238 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:54,919 Republicans in much of the country each time he has 239 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,600 run for president, a sea of red that amounts to 240 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,200 a flashing warning signed for a Democrat party out of 241 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,240 power and hoping for a comeback. The steady march to 242 00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:10,679 the right at the county level reveals not just the 243 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,200 extent of the nation's transformation in the Trump era, but 244 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,480 also the degree to which the United States now resembles 245 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:24,200 two countries charging in opposite directions. Trump has reordered America's 246 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:30,720 political divide both geographically and demographically. Republicans are overwhelmingly making 247 00:14:30,799 --> 00:14:36,120 gains and working class counties. Democrats are improving almost exclusively 248 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,879 in wealthier areas. It is the same story by education. 249 00:14:42,279 --> 00:14:45,519 Republicans are running up the score in counties where fewer 250 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:49,240 people have attended college, and Democrats are gaining ground in 251 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:54,279 a small sliver of the best educated enclaves. I use 252 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,639 I put air quotes around best educated because it's just credentialing. 253 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,759 You're not actually really educated on a lot of stuff. 254 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,840 I mean, yes, they do teach you some things like 255 00:15:04,879 --> 00:15:08,279 how to assemble the funnel for the keg parties like 256 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,519 that stuff, but that doesn't make you the best educated. 257 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: You have just. 258 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: Learned other things that will probably not be useful. Ever, again, 259 00:15:19,879 --> 00:15:21,200 it's a credentialing service. 260 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: Now. 261 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:30,759 Speaker 2: So Democrats have steadily expanded their vote share in they 262 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:34,399 call it triple trending these three election cycles, three of 263 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,519 the presidential election cycles, so twenty four, twenty and sixteen. 264 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:44,480 So a triple trending county is one that keeps going 265 00:15:44,519 --> 00:15:47,440 and you know, it's trending the same way, keeps going 266 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,399 the same direction, more and more and more. And so 267 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,679 when you look at these counties, it shows that, Okay, 268 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,519 Democrats have been steadily expanding their vote share in the 269 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:03,440 last three elections in fifty seven counties. Wow, fifty seven counties. 270 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:11,080 Democrats have fifty seven triple trending counties. That's impressive, right, Yeah, 271 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,799 except there are over three thousand counties in America, So 272 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:20,919 in three thousand counties, they only have triple trending fifty 273 00:16:20,919 --> 00:16:26,120 seven of them. By comparison, Donald Trump and the Republican 274 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:31,399 Party they have over fourteen hundred triple trenders or triple 275 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,240 trending counties. Trump has steadily gained steam across a broad 276 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,799 swath of the nation, with swelling support not just in 277 00:16:39,919 --> 00:16:44,360 white working class communities, but also in counties with sizable 278 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:49,679 Black and Hispanic populations. Counties that have become steadily more 279 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,519 Republican exist in some of the country's bluest strongholds, including 280 00:16:54,600 --> 00:17:00,600 New York City, Philadelphia, and Honolulu. Mister Trump's party is 281 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:02,159 still losing in those places. 282 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:02,759 Speaker 1: To be sure. 283 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:06,279 Speaker 2: Okay, Republicans are not winning New York City, but they're 284 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:11,599 not losing by as much. That's the key. This is why, 285 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,559 like Mecklenburg County right controlled by Democrats, but it is 286 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,319 so important for Republicans to vote in Mecklinburg County even 287 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:24,640 if you're not going to win any of your municipal races, 288 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:27,839 City of Charlotte races, whatever. Even if you can't win 289 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:34,880 those races, the statewide impact matters because there are a 290 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,519 lot of Republican voters in Mecklenburg County. At the same time, 291 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:43,000 Trump has driven Republican margins to dizzying new heights in 292 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:48,240 the nation's reddest bastions. Taken together, the findings represent a 293 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:52,079 blaring alarm for a Democrat party that long saw itself 294 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,440 as championing the working class and that staked its future 295 00:17:55,519 --> 00:17:59,359 on the belief that the nation would become steadily more 296 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:10,480 diverse and better educated well it did, right, we have 297 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:17,039 become more diverse, right yeah, and better educated. Again with 298 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,359 the air quotes, I'm assuming that's you know, more people 299 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:25,880 with college degrees. That's occurred too. So why would the 300 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:32,680 Democrat Party be incorrect in staking its future on this belief? 301 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,599 Because they assumed that if you had the college degree 302 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:43,880 and if you were not white, that you were automatically theirs. See, 303 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,200 Democrats left behind a lot of their constituents, a lot 304 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:53,319 of their voters. The Democrat Party left them. 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All right, So, 331 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:29,160 all told, four hundred thirty five counties in America voted 332 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:35,279 more Democrat in twenty four than they did in twenty twelve. 333 00:20:35,599 --> 00:20:42,519 Obama versus Romney, Right, So they had an average improved 334 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:48,000 margin of just under nine percentage points. Four hundred thirty 335 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:54,359 five counties voted more Democrat Okay, two than six hundred 336 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,799 and seventy eight counties became more Republican in the same 337 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:03,160 timeframe by an average of over thirteen percentage points. That's 338 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,839 six times as many counties moving towards the GOP then 339 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:13,680 towards the Democrat Party, and by a substantially wider margin. 340 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:19,680 The erosion of working class support among black, white Latino 341 00:21:19,759 --> 00:21:25,400 voters alike has unnerved every ideological wing of the Democrat Party. 342 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:31,279 Ben Toultchen, a polster who worked on Senator Bernie Sanders's 343 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,279 presidential campaigns, so you know he knows what he's doing, said, 344 00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:39,039 the old political calculations for how Democrats can win elections 345 00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:45,880 are now obsolete. Quote, the math doesn't work. For years, 346 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:51,359 the belief was Democrats have had demographic destiny on our side. 347 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:59,279 Now the inverse is true. It really is amazing, Like 348 00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:04,319 this whole great replacement theory. This is what when they 349 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,839 when they're saying demographic destiny, that's what they're talking about. 350 00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:14,319 This was understood in a non controversial way for like 351 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,559 twenty years. Richard Florida. 352 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: I think it is his name. 353 00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: He's the one that talked about like demographics destiny, and 354 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,559 Democrats thought, if we can just you know, hold on 355 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,200 for a little bit longer, eventually all the white people 356 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,359 will die off and will be more diverse, and more 357 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,519 people will have you know, college degrees, and then we 358 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:39,720 win forever, yeah, us, you know, and then we can 359 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:45,799 fundamentally transform the country into whatever socialist hellhole they want. 360 00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:50,359 That was their theory that they now claim the right 361 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:56,119 wingers are catastrophizing over and trying to scare white people 362 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,359 and getting old racisty and stuff with this theory. 363 00:22:58,559 --> 00:22:59,519 Speaker 1: That was your theory. 364 00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: It wasn't even a theory, this was your strategy. 365 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,559 Speaker 1: This was your. 366 00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:07,839 Speaker 2: Stated plan of attack. But now the inverse is true. 367 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,599 Oh you hate to see it, huh. Some Democrats hope 368 00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:12,920 that this is only a phenomenon of the Trump era, 369 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,480 and that GOP gains will evaporate once the president is 370 00:23:16,519 --> 00:23:19,079 no longer on the ballot, as was the case when 371 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,720 Democrats fared surprisingly well in the twenty twenty two midterm 372 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,359 election and in many recent special elections. You've heard this 373 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,079 as well. This is a concern of mine too. But 374 00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:38,559 Chris Caffinis, a Democratic strategist, warned such optimism was misplaced. 375 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,640 He says, quote Trump is the symptom, not the disease. 376 00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:46,920 The disease is the fact that you have lost touch 377 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,680 with a whole swath of voters that used to consistently 378 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:56,519 vote Democrat. Wait, maybe it's the messaging, guys, maybe it's 379 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:02,799 not the messaging. We've heard your messages. They've come through 380 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:10,000 loud and clear. We just disagree. Representative Jared Golden of Maine, 381 00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:13,279 he is in a district that is actually very reliably 382 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,920 pro Trump, but he still wins and he's a Democrat. 383 00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:22,359 What does he say, Quote, there is a political realignment afoot. 384 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,359 We see working class voters, regardless of where they come from, 385 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,599 what their identity is other than their working class status, 386 00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:35,880 shifting to the Republican Party. He blamed a party leadership 387 00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:39,960 that is out of touch with the daily concerns of voters. 388 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:40,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. 389 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: See, this is the problem when you create this party 390 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:50,079 for the benefit of only the elites, because they've got 391 00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:54,799 the credential from the elite institutions, colleges. They call this 392 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,519 the diploma divide. Well, you cannot be surprised when you 393 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,960 look around and your party is now only comprised of 394 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:07,880 those people, right, this was your This was what you 395 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,119 guys built, what you planned on. So and then, of course, 396 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,160 the one thing you always learn about Democrats and their 397 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,279 coalitions is that they will toss any one of their 398 00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:19,480 member coalition coalition members rather any one of them under 399 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:27,079 the bus. Like the perfect example right now is women. Yeah, 400 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,160 like at some point women are going to wake up 401 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,759 and realize, like, oh, wait a minute, we can never 402 00:25:31,799 --> 00:25:36,640 win trophies in athletic competitions. Again, Hey wait, I don't 403 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,880 want to be part of you guys if you're doing that. 404 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: So they'll throw them right under the bus for whatever. 405 00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:51,079 Speaker 2: You know, uh, temporary benefit or agenda item that's needed. Now, 406 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,920 black voters have been and still are the most reliable 407 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,000 Democrat voters. But in Donald Trump's three the presidential campaigns, 408 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:08,319 he has made serious inroads in heavily black counties across 409 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,640 the Deep South and beyond. In last year's election, Republicans 410 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,799 gained ground in one hundred ninety three of America's two 411 00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:24,519 hundred most predominantly black counties. Right, So, if you look 412 00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:27,759 at a map and you find all of the counties 413 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:32,200 that are majority predominantly black, and you look at just 414 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:36,680 those two hundred, Republicans gained ground in one hundred and 415 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:42,359 ninety three of them, even as Vice President Kamala Harris 416 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,319 stood to become the first black female president. The slippage 417 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,359 is even more pronounced and profound in Latino communities, which 418 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,440 is so weird because I was informed that Donald Trump 419 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,839 hates Latinos. Of the sixty seven counties in America with 420 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:04,240 a majority Hispani population, sixty six of them voted more 421 00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,359 Republican in twenty four than they did in twenty twelve. 422 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:11,880 So again, they're not saying this data is not saying 423 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,920 that Trump carried the counties. He didn't win these counties. 424 00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:17,559 He may have won some of them, but he didn't 425 00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:22,640 win all of these counties. They've just done better. They're 426 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,000 chipping away. And what happens this is the preference cascade. 427 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,359 Right once permission is granted that it's okay now to 428 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,119 vote for Trump and to do the silly dance right 429 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,880 like he did with the hands whatever like. Once the 430 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:45,400 permission is granted, then the preference cascade accelerates. Even more 431 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,880 arresting is that the average swing toward the GOP in 432 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,839 those sixty six Hispanic majority counties. The swing was twenty 433 00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:59,559 three points. That is a political earthquake, twenty three point swing. 434 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,960 Trump improved his results in each of his three presidential 435 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:09,200 runs in about two thirds of majority Hispanic counties Democrats. 436 00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:14,319 They have steadily improved their share of the vote in none, 437 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,880 not a single county in America where Latinos account for 438 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,319 a third or more of the population. 439 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,279 Speaker 1: Not one. 440 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: Just nine counties voted more Democrat in each of the 441 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:35,599 presidential elections since twenty twelve. Nine got more Democrat. Six 442 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,920 of them are around Atlanta. The six of the nine 443 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:46,680 are around Atlanta, the other Indianapolis, suburbs of Indianapolis, Kansas City, 444 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,160 and the little neighborhood in New Mexico right where everybody 445 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,960 that works at Los Alamos National Laboratory works. 446 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,119 Speaker 1: That's it. 447 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,799 Speaker 2: Those are the nine nine counties that voted more Democrat 448 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,400 in each of the presidential elections since twenty twelve. 449 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,599 Speaker 1: It's just not happening. Now. 450 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: How many shifted towards the Republicans in those three presidential 451 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,839 elections a little bit more than nine. It was five 452 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,279 hundred and thirty five by at least twenty five percentage points. 453 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:24,319 Speaker 1: This is oh yeah, you hate to see it, all. 454 00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:26,039 Speaker 2: Right, If you're listening to this show, you know I 455 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:27,920 try to keep up with all sorts of current events, 456 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,039 and I know you do too. And you've probably heard 457 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:34,119 me say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, 458 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,880 because it's how you detect media bias, which is why 459 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,079 I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app 460 00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:43,480 and it's a website and it combines news from around 461 00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:45,960 the world in one place so you can compare coverage 462 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,920 and verify information. 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I 473 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:21,400 use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 474 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:24,359 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 475 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,559 also supports ground News as they make the media landscape 476 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:32,599 more transparent. The new York Times headline how Donald Trump 477 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,799 has remade America's political landscape, and the data and the 478 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:43,920 graphs that they've gotten here, it's just devastating for Democrats. 479 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:47,359 And I am here for it. I am so here 480 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,799 for it. The majority of Americans now believe that the 481 00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:57,799 Republican Party best represents the interests of the working class 482 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,799 and the poor. You know who said that, Ken Martin. 483 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:10,039 Do you know who Ken Martin is. He's the chairman 484 00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:16,720 of the DNC. When the chairman of the DNC says 485 00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:21,519 that they're GOP, at least the majority of Americans believe 486 00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:24,640 it that the GOP best represents the interests of the 487 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:30,160 working class and the poor. Like if you take if 488 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,119 you take the poor out of the Democrat coalition, like 489 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:42,200 they're basically left with like government and college employees. Right, 490 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,480 that's it. Bell teachers a lot of teachers too, but 491 00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:50,640 not all, not all. He took over as chairman of 492 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,559 the DNC last year. He says, the Democrat Party is 493 00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:55,839 the party of the wealthy and the elites. That's what 494 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,759 people believe. He is exactly right. And you know why, 495 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:00,279 there's a logical reason for. 496 00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:00,519 Speaker 1: All of this. 497 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 2: It's because it is they've made it very clear. Let 498 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:10,400 me go to the end here. This may sound crazy 499 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,119 to you, This is all I'm gonna tell you who 500 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,440 said this. I'm gonna just read the quote first and 501 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,839 then I'm gonna tell you who said it for this piece. Okay, quote, 502 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,279 This may sound crazy to you. Maybe this had to 503 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:27,000 happen for the Democratic Party to wake up and stop 504 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,160 taking people for granted based on the color of their skin, 505 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,799 or their country of national origin, or where they live 506 00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:37,279 in the state. If we don't do that, we will 507 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:41,640 continue to lose, said betto O'Rourke. 508 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: The guy, he says, trust me, I know how to lose. 509 00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:53,519 Speaker 2: This is the guy who ran unsuccessfully for Congress or 510 00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:58,680 for for president and the Senate in Texas. Remember, everybody 511 00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:02,119 was like, Oh, he's gonna be Cruise. We love us 512 00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:05,680 some Beto. His name is Robert. His name is Robert 513 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,960 oh rourke. And he he claimed to have been called 514 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,079 Beto by an uncle or something, and that's always been 515 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,039 my nickname is Beto or Rourke. 516 00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:18,319 Speaker 1: Uh huh Okay. 517 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: So he says that the Democrat Party has to stop 518 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,839 taking people for granted based on the color of their skins. 519 00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:34,559 Speaker 1: Says Beto Okay, he's a white dude. Uh. 520 00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:40,039 Speaker 2: And then there's a Richie Torres Democrat from the Bronx. Also, 521 00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:43,559 by the way, Bronx saw lots of movement towards Trump too. 522 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,640 Very oddly counties that have shifted three times these the 523 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:57,039 triple trenders. Triple trending counties not only far upstate counties 524 00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,680 like in New York, like Saint Lawrence and Lewis County, 525 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,319 but also some of the nation's most diverse areas like 526 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:13,199 the Bronx Queens and Brooklyn. Richie Torres, Democrat from the Bronx, says, quote, 527 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:16,679 we could be entering a world where the greatest predictor 528 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,559 of voting behavior is no longer race. 529 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that would be so amazing. 530 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's greatest achievement, his greatest electoral achievement, lies not 531 00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:32,519 in breaking the blue wall in the industrial Midwest, but 532 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,960 in beginning to break the blue walls in states like 533 00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:41,880 New York and in counties like the Bronx. But mister 534 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,920 Torres is not yet ready to predict his party's doom. 535 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,079 He says, I'm convinced that Donald Trump is a singular 536 00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:55,159 phenomenon in American history. I am unconvinced that his appeal 537 00:34:55,559 --> 00:35:00,360 is necessarily transferable to the Republican party writ large. That 538 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,880 remains to be seen. Yeah, that remains to be seen. 539 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:08,920 This is all unknown. That's the thing about realignments. You know, 540 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,599 you don't know how exactly it's all going to shake out. 541 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,760 And is it all, you know, a cult of personality 542 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:24,360 around him. If Republicans cannot institutionalize, codify the stuff that 543 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,360 is important to the people that voted for Trump, they 544 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,840 will lose them. They will be up for grabs again, unless, 545 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,519 of course, Democrats keep staying as crazy as they are. 546 00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:42,320 Let me see, you're best educated. Yeah, I don't see. 547 00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:45,440 I don't like this term that they use in polling. 548 00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:51,239 You know, sometimes you'll see it non college educated, but 549 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,440 I don't. I don't like it because just because you 550 00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:57,320 went to college doesn't mean you actually got educated. And 551 00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:02,360 maybe you learn things while you were there. Are they practical? 552 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,639 Can you apply them in your real life? 553 00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: Right? 554 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 2: Were you brainwashed? While they're stands as at this point, 555 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,159 the best educated are the byproduct of being radicalized by 556 00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:18,480 our K twelve and higher education institutions. That's the only 557 00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:23,800 way the Greta Thunbergs of the world can be created. Yeah, yeah, 558 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,599 so I don't like the term, but I don't know, 559 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,000 you know, college degree maybe say that, but it's just 560 00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:33,199 it's yeah, because again, people get out of high school, 561 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,719 they go to work, and the stuff that the skills 562 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,679 that they amass over the course of their lives, they 563 00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:41,920 are no less educated on all of these other things. 564 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,400 They're just educate on different things. So a couple of 565 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,719 emails regarding the police chief story too, John said, when 566 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,000 most people retire they get their retirement pay. Only top 567 00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:58,079 government employees get these several hundred thousand dollars separation packages 568 00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:04,119 in addition to their retireronment pay. Yeah, it's just it's offensive. 569 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: All of this stuff is offensive. It was like the 570 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,599 longevity pay that they would pay people. 571 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,119 Speaker 2: Oh, congratulations, you didn't get fired from your government job, 572 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,239 so you've been here forty years, so we'll pay you extra, 573 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,039 like okay. Mike says, I've never once seen a severance 574 00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:19,519 agreement without a non disparagement clause, have you? I have not. 575 00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:23,280 If there is one, was it violated? There is a 576 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,000 non disparagement clause in the agreement with Jennings. I do 577 00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:31,199 not believe that it was violated. I don't know anybody 578 00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:34,079 that violated it, so yeah, there's that. 579 00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:36,599 Speaker 1: All right. 580 00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 2: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 581 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,039 for listening. I could not do the show without your 582 00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:43,840 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 583 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,679 the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too 584 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,400 and tell them you heard it here. You can also 585 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,039 become a patron at my Patreon page or go to 586 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:54,880 dpetecallanershow dot com. 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