WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:05.400 This is the baseline, discussing the hot button topics of 2 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:10.359 the NBA. Welcome everybody, you're tuned to the baseline. Cali 3 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:14.880 Warnshaw discussing the hot button topics of the NBA. Little 4 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:18.480 chili up here, but that does not mean that is 5 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:21.399 plenty hot when we talk in NBA action. 6 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:24.160 The NBA culture. 7 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:29.839 Essentially, the NBA Shaw is the gift that keeps on giving, 8 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:35.399 whether it's on the court, off the court, in the camera, 9 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:38.840 off the camera. I mean, there is so much going on, 10 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:43.000 you know what I'm saying. Obviously, Saint Nick has got 11 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:46.320 his eyes on the game a little bit. He's sprinkling 12 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:50.000 a lot of joy and chaos. He's like, I want 13 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:52.439 you all to really appreciate what I go through around 14 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:54.119 this time of the year. So let me do this 15 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:56.560 to what you guys typically like to follow and you 16 00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:00.520 know what I'm saying, and talk and conversation about. Let 17 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:02.600 me give you a little bit of that that Christmas 18 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:04.480 magic sodes beginning. It's not even we're not even talking 19 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:06.439 about the Christmas Day games, which I'm sure we're gonna 20 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:08.879 preview that when we do our next episode, right. 21 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:14.799 No, man, Well, the weather being a little brisk is appropriate, 22 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:17.560 but again the NBA actions thaying hot as also appropriate 23 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:19.879 as a you know, NBA cup stuff is here, that's 24 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.200 in you know, the bomby City of Las Vegas on 25 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.280 a regular basis. And I just love the fact that 26 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.719 the game continues to give us content upon content upon 27 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:33.159 content for us to keep our show running, you know, 28 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:35.959 at an optimal level, that we even can be nominated 29 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:37.640 for some awards. Let's don't want to bring you know, 30 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:39.840 want to talk about it too too soon. But but you. 31 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:45.079 Just did, I said, I said, I mean talk about you. 32 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.400 See you you were the child right that when you 33 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:51.280 you you even though they say it you gotta wait 34 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:54.560 until December the twenty fifth, you beat that child, that'd 35 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:56.640 be like, you know, tearing at the present. 36 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:57.959 You know what I'm saying, tearing at the rappers just 37 00:01:58.000 --> 00:01:59.040 just just a little bit. 38 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:01.599 Is that? Oh I I did used to do that. 39 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:04.560 I can't even I used to be very very big 40 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.560 on my Christmas vibes and wanting to know what I 41 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.759 can what I was gonna get. I couldn't wait. But again, 42 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:12.080 I think the league is just really diving into kind 43 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:15.319 of like truly the Christmas spirit, even like the commercials 44 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:17.039 and stuff that are going on and bringing back, you 45 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:19.840 know kind of you know that that jingle Jingle Jam 46 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:21.680 commercial that they had from years ago, but they now 47 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:23.759 they animated it and put it in with Wenby and 48 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.360 Tatum and new guys and Luca who weren't in the original. 49 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:29.159 Stuff Like it's it's a festive time around the NBA, 50 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:30.319 and we're here to cover it all. 51 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:34.039 Absolutely well, it is a festive time more importantly, not 52 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:40.800 just for the baseline NBA podcast, but also for you know, 53 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.639 the FAM's entity, nineteen Media Group, you know, and I'm 54 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:46.800 sure as you were just alluding to it a moment ago. 55 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:51.759 You know again, Man, when I tell people that nineteen 56 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.759 Media Group be running these content streets, I just genuinely 57 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:57.879 think people don't understand where I'm coming from. But when 58 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:04.000 you as a entity are being nominated, you know, amongst 59 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:07.560 a majority of great content creators that are out there 60 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:11.199 in different spaces, on different platforms, well, you're being nominated 61 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:13.439 for what you do, what you cover, what you discuss, 62 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:16.439 as among one of the best that's out there doing it. 63 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:18.120 I don't care who you are, I don't care what 64 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:20.560 space you come from, I don't care how you know 65 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.599 long you've been doing it, how short of the time 66 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:26.120 you've been doing it, the fact that you're being acknowledged 67 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:27.199 for doing it. 68 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:28.199 I think speaks volume. 69 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:33.360 So, you know, without further ado, right, like again, the 70 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.639 Baseline NBA Podcast is proud to announce that we've been 71 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:40.479 nominated for the Best Basketball Podcast for the second consecutive 72 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:44.680 year by the Sports Podcast Awards. Shaw, you and I, 73 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:46.520 you know, for as long as we've been doing it, 74 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:51.199 we are always, you know, humbled, and we will always 75 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.840 never take for granted, you know, the effort and the 76 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:57.000 work that we put into in order to allow our listeners, 77 00:03:57.360 --> 00:03:59.759 you know, to open up this community, to open up 78 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.039 this and I think, you know, we want to make 79 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:05.240 sure that we acknowledge the listeners who have put us 80 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:09.639 in this position to allow the Sports Podcast Awards Committee 81 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:13.199 to put us in that position right to say, hey, 82 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:15.080 you guys are one of the best that's out there. 83 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:18.000 And again we're just truly on and privileged to be 84 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:22.040 recognized among sunch talented podcasts. And we're always grateful for 85 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:26.920 the continued and growing support of the Baseline podcast community, 86 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:29.720 but more importantly the nineteen Media Group community as well too. 87 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:32.720 So you know, again that time of the year where 88 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:36.319 we're calling on all of our baseliners, you know, to 89 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.839 rock with us, get out there in full force, show 90 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:40.680 your support. 91 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:41.120 Right. 92 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:46.279 We encourage you to go to tiny url dot com 93 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.639 slash Baseline twenty twenty five so you can cast your 94 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:52.920 vote and select your boy cal Lee my Man warren 95 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:59.000 Shaw the Baseline NBA podcast as the best basketball podcast. 96 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.720 You know for twenty twenty five for twenty twenty five. 97 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:06.279 And I'd be remissed if we didn't also acknowledge a 98 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:09.720 couple of our colleagues because they have also been put 99 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:12.079 into this space as well too. Want to send a 100 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:15.920 big shout outs to our family Gimmick Infringement. They again 101 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.920 have been nominated for the Best Wrestling Podcast amongst the 102 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:23.439 Sports Podcast Awards Committee. We did this last year with them, 103 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:27.040 and we're just always, you know, so proud of the 104 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.079 growth and you know, the content that they always continually 105 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.399 keep putting out. Man, they're one of the best that's 106 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.079 out there. So we want to make sure that if 107 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.480 you're a wrestling listener or someone who's interested in listening 108 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:42.000 to wrestling talk and the culture of it, these guys 109 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:43.800 are the best at doing it. So we encourage you 110 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.000 to also check out gimmick Infringement and then also a big, 111 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.160 big shout out. Man, he's one of our He's our 112 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:49.720 little brother. 113 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:49.959 Man. 114 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:51.519 I ain't gonna say little son, you know. 115 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:53.439 What I'm saying, We're gonna do that, but he's he's 116 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.600 He's definitely someone that has grown so much in his 117 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.240 ability to curate such a great podcast hip to the 118 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:03.439 games our man Desmond Powell. He has also been nominated 119 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.680 in our category among one of the best basketball podcasts 120 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:09.720 that's out there. Such a unique twist on his ability 121 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.800 to merge the culture of hip hop and the game 122 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:16.160 of basketball in his show to put him in this position, 123 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:17.800 we want to send a big shout out to him. 124 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:19.839 Sean and I know about you know what I'm saying, 125 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.759 the chemistry that we have. He's come on to our 126 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:25.279 show and has helped co host and you know, been 127 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.720 a special guest, you know, from time to time. 128 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:30.279 So it's just great, man, it's awesome. 129 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.480 We're not only helping to build out that space, but 130 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:37.040 we can also share that space with our contemporaries, our colleagues, 131 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:39.319 and we want to see them succeed as well too. 132 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:41.879 So you know, listen, big shout out to the nineteen 133 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:45.439 Media Group family, because it's clear and obvious. Man, we 134 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:49.000 got content creators that be running the streets. 135 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:51.920 Bro. So you know, I love it. I just absolutely 136 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:53.519 love it. 137 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:55.720 It's hard not to. So all I can say is, 138 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:59.240 you know, double down on what you just indicated the 139 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:01.920 game make a friends when fellas are they are special, 140 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:05.879 special special dudes. And if you knew, and I do know, 141 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:09.279 the work they put behind their show, so they deserve 142 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:14.040 all of these accolades and all of the attention, you know, 143 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:17.839 for their show in this very very prestigious and very 144 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.480 very competitive category you know, of wrestling, when you have 145 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:24.800 celebrity wrestlers and celebrity players that kind of doing all 146 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:27.639 this and entering the podcast space. It's so important for 147 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.240 nineteen Media Group of kind of homegrown talent, you know, 148 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:33.319 to be recognized in the way that we have been. 149 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:36.079 And in certainly last but not least, you know what 150 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.759 Desmond pal has been able to do. Again, the amount 151 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:41.160 of work he puts into his show, the amount of 152 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:43.759 time he puts into the production, the thought he puts 153 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:48.120 into the production. There's this It's like you said, he's 154 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.439 a young man, but he's an old soul and it's 155 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:53.639 really amazing to watch that work ethic be rewarded with 156 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:56.319 this nomination. I'm so proud of him, so proud of 157 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.720 our network and the things that we have already accomplished 158 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:01.680 and things that we are going to accomplish as a 159 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.240 network with everybody in toil Man, so amazing, amazing shout out. 160 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:07.279 Hip to the games can be infringement. And of course 161 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:10.199 you my brother holding it down here with the baseline. 162 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:12.720 You know what is this year thirteen, year twelve, I'm 163 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:16.120 lost in it. Either a consecutive back to back nominations 164 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:18.199 for us Man and that's amazing accomplishment as well. 165 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.959 Listen, nothing more can be said, but what can be 166 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:26.959 done is making sure that our listeners, you know, again, 167 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:30.480 show that love and support to each and every single 168 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:34.320 one of you know, our nominees that have been entered 169 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:36.840 into that space, you know. And again, you know, we're 170 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:38.919 not saying you gotta love the baseline, you know what 171 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:42.200 I'm saying, far from it. There are some also great 172 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.320 shows that are out there, and maybe that show is 173 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:47.919 you know, the show that you probably listen to more 174 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.080 so than us. But we do want to welcome you 175 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:53.200 right to our space. Take a listen to some of 176 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:56.799 our episodes, our shows where we're coming from, and help, 177 00:08:57.039 --> 00:09:00.000 you know, again, open up this community, build it out 178 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.360 out more. We want people voting, we want people engaged, 179 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:06.279 and we want people active. So you know, again, don't 180 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:09.360 let this just be about a campaign about us saying hey, Coe, 181 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:11.039 go vote for the baseline NBA podcast. 182 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:11.480 We love that. 183 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.639 There's nothing more that we want of that, but we 184 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.759 also want to vote more importantly, to be present and 185 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.120 accounted for, because then it speaks to the Sports Podcast 186 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:23.080 Awards Committee to say, hey, there's a community out here. 187 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:26.480 There's a large community out here that deserves that recognition. 188 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:29.200 And I think one of the cool things about our 189 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:33.120 relationship Shaw is we've always walked into this saying it's 190 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.480 not just about winning these awards. It's about helping to 191 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.279 open up that space so that we fit in with 192 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:44.320 what we do. And we have people that we know 193 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:47.679 who've listened to us. They feel like there's a space 194 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:49.720 for them as well too. There's a voice for them 195 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:52.320 and how they cover the NBA, how they discuss the 196 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:55.720 NBA because all too often to not it's always being 197 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:58.840 controlled by the big markets. And I'm not dissing them. 198 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.039 You know what I'm saying a about that. What I'm 199 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.120 saying is we want to make sure that those other 200 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.679 markets are getting the same acknowledgment and the same recognition, 201 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:09.159 because what they're doing is no different than what you 202 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.000 see on the ESPNS and the cbs IS and the NBC's. 203 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.840 The only difference is is that they just aren't out 204 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:18.120 there as much. They're they're not flooding all of the 205 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:21.879 online mediums that are being utilized and stuff. But here 206 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:26.080 we are, and here are shows like gimmick infringement, shows 207 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.200 like a hip to the games that keeps this thriving 208 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:34.200 community robust and keeps them out there in the eye. 209 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:37.879 And I think that to me, you know, hopefully one day, 210 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:43.200 you know, these the sports genre will acknowledge and recognize 211 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:47.679 how vital we are. You know, we represent a population 212 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:50.200 of people that at times get missed, you know what 213 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:51.720 I'm saying, Like they get overlooked. 214 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:54.240 They don't, they don't they don't give them up platform. 215 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:57.039 Let's let's you know, not necessarily close loop on it, 216 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:59.159 but there's I will say this one thing to kind 217 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:01.080 of address it. I think we're at the stage I 218 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.519 think in the industry like keeping in a buck where 219 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:07.919 there does need to be delineation from network produced, player 220 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:10.720 produced versus kind of your independent brands. And there's a 221 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:13.840 lot of independent people who are doing amazing numbers and 222 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.519 you know, they are getting hundreds and thousands of you know, 223 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:19.039 views and likes and listens and downloads and things of 224 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:22.720 that nature. But they are homegrown and you know, kudos 225 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:25.240 in respect to them, But for our network, you know, 226 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:27.960 where that's not necessarily the case. But to even be 227 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:30.960 mentioned in the same category as you know on some 228 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.279 of the more robust networks out there, with some of 229 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.919 the more robust names out there. Remember we were in 230 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.159 this category last year with JJ Reddick and Draymond. 231 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:42.759 Green, Like, I mean, let's keep it a buck, Like 232 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:44.279 that's crazy, you know. 233 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:47.360 So as the industry continues to change, not to turn 234 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:51.559 this into a podcast conference and referendum here, but conversations 235 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:53.919 can be had, probably should be had about the various 236 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:56.799 arenas in which the talented work can be recognized. And 237 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:59.200 that's not a vain, you know, approach and just trying 238 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.159 to like tootor own home here. I think that's just 239 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:02.960 kind of where the industry is at. I think there's 240 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:05.159 a lot of people who would agree. So anyway, we 241 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:07.039 got to get to the content at hand, the reason 242 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.039 why we were nominated for Set award. 243 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:15.000 Right, absolutely, yes, indeed, thank you for bringing us. 244 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:15.679 Back to the fold. 245 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.080 See I take us all the way up and my 246 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:21.679 man Shaw just levels us out. That's that's that's how 247 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:23.639 that's how we do. That's that's that's how. 248 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:25.039 You know what I'm saying. What do they call that? 249 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:28.360 Give and go? That's the give and go. I know 250 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:29.600 that's an outdated play. 251 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:32.840 We don't do that no more in this NBA, but 252 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:35.200 I still think it has some. 253 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.879 Viability even in this generation. Right, the give and go? 254 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:39.399 All right? 255 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:42.120 As my man Shaw said, Man, we got some really 256 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.519 important stuff to get to go over. Obviously, we want 257 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:48.639 to be able to preview this upcoming Emirates NBA Cup Finals, 258 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.519 which is going to feature the Oklahoma City Thunder and 259 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:57.200 the Milwaukee Bucks. People are already leaning into that idea 260 00:12:57.240 --> 00:12:59.679 is because this possibly be an NBA Finals matchup. 261 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:01.440 Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. 262 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:05.080 Okay, but I do think for the purposes of the 263 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:08.600 NBA Cup, this is gonna be a very intriguing matchup. 264 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:12.200 And we'll give our perspective on our predictions on who's 265 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:15.840 gonna ultimately win it. Then you know, listen, man, the 266 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:17.000 wheels were turning. 267 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:17.799 You know what I'm saying. 268 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:19.799 This is what happens when you down a couple shots 269 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:25.559 of good English rum in the in the process of 270 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:28.360 being in the spirit, and your spirit just takes you 271 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.679 to these different places. Right, Like, so much is going 272 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:33.879 on now that trade season has opened up in the 273 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:35.919 n b A, right, and there's already been a couple 274 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:37.879 of moves that have taken place, And we'll discuss the 275 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:41.480 move of Thomas Bryant being going over to the Indian 276 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:44.679 Indiana Pacers, and we'll also talk about I don't want 277 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:46.279 to say it's like a blockbuster trade, but it's a 278 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.960 significant trade where Dennis Schroeder is going to the Golden 279 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:54.120 State Warriors for the Anthony Melton and some ex exchange 280 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:57.840 of picks. But there's an interesting concept that I wanted 281 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:00.759 to throw out there. It's it's been in different spaces, 282 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:02.399 so shout outs, and I don't want to, you know, 283 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:04.159 be biting off of people, but I do think that 284 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:06.279 it's interesting that, you know, we don't do this enough, 285 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:09.399 probably for basketball, but we're gonna do a little cuddle 286 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:14.840 merry trash. It's an interesting concept. We'll explain to you 287 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:16.600 when we get to that point. But that means you 288 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.759 got to hang on with us, let us get through 289 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:20.200 our thing, pay some bills. 290 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:21.519 But obviously this is. 291 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:23.000 The kind of episode that I think you should be 292 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:24.840 listening from the beginning to the end, isn't it not? 293 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.919 Shaw always always, always consume all the minutes of the 294 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:30.559 Baseline NBA podcast. 295 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:32.879 Absolutely so as always be sure to get my Man show, 296 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:35.200 Astro Sports, NBA, Get at Me a game Face Leader shows, Twitter, 297 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:37.480 and an NBA Baseline available on major platforms. 298 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:39.480 You know where to find us. 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Whatever you want to 309 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.879 listen to, I can guarantee you ninety media group has 310 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:09.919 got something for your listening pleasures. Should be sure to 311 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:12.879 check out the family. All right, Shaw, Let's get right 312 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:16.679 into it. Emirates NBA Cup Finals is now upon us. 313 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.919 The finals is set. We're talking Oklahoma City Thunder versus 314 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:22.159 the Milwaukee Bucks. 315 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:23.559 Jaw. 316 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:26.159 The first question that I want to ask you about 317 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:33.840 this particular matchup is who needs this Cup more? Oklahoma 318 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:36.399 City Thunder or the Milwaukee Bucks. And I know that 319 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:39.279 we had talked about this a little bit when we 320 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:41.360 did our previews of the semis. 321 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:45.159 I'm sorry the quarters, but maybe some. 322 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:47.639 Of that has changed now when we've seen how these 323 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.200 two guys have played in the knockout, how these two 324 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.360 teams have played in the knockout rounds right and have 325 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:55.360 put themselves in this position to be in the finals. 326 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.799 So I'm going to re ask this question now with 327 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:01.879 enough information and to determine that they are the finalists. 328 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:03.320 Who needs this more? 329 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:07.360 My original answer was okay See going into the semis, 330 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:10.399 if you recall and shout out, you know, I will 331 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:12.879 say I've been perfect in my predictions and I did 332 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:14.759 predict okay See would beat Milwaukee, And. 333 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:16.840 I'm sorry Sean, I don't. 334 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:19.600 I can't reach far enough to dust you know what 335 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:23.159 I'm saying, to dust the thing, to leave your. 336 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:25.799 Shoulder in a little bit, give me that little. 337 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:28.039 But we know Ball, right, and we know Ball, and 338 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:29.879 you know, I think again some of their narratives while 339 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.600 Houston a little messy, but they're here. I mean they 340 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:36.000 got here. And then obviously he got beat by okay See. 341 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.679 As we head to the Cup final, I think again, 342 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.279 I'm still gonna stay with okay See. But there's there's 343 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:45.480 something permeating in Milwaukee. Uh. I know Jannis wants to 344 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:47.320 win this joint. He wants to be you know, the 345 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:49.879 Cup and VP and all of that. And I think 346 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:53.639 in some semblance of kind of weird validation for where 347 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:55.879 the Bucks are, and you know, especially where they've come 348 00:16:55.919 --> 00:17:00.159 already from this season, Dame and Giannis winning it with 349 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:02.480 Doc at the Helm, with kind of like their new cadence, 350 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:05.319 with Milton as more of a six man type of thing, 351 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.920 Adereen coming in as a you know this, you know 352 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.079 this mercenary three point shooter, and they just kind of 353 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:13.839 found a rhythm to what they're doing. This Bucks team 354 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:17.240 can really use this as a way to say, Hi, 355 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:21.279 we can win something at you know, elevated stages that 356 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:24.599 can propel them to be the contender that a lot 357 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:26.200 of us thought they were going to be going into 358 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.880 this season that they didn't start off with. So I 359 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:33.200 think they've rounded into form. And I think most people's 360 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:36.480 money would probably still still say Milwaukee because Damon Giannis 361 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:38.839 haven't done it together. I'm still going to say, Okay, 362 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:41.160 see from the aspect of, you know, as a young 363 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.640 team that is hanging their principles on defense but behind 364 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.759 a true MVP canon and SGA, and they haven't even 365 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:51.000 gotten to the conference finals or anything like that yet too. 366 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.680 Them winning something means a little bit more for me, 367 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:55.880 just a smidge more than it does for Milwaukee. But 368 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:58.920 both narratives are different, but they both have viability if 369 00:17:58.920 --> 00:17:59.680 you're asking. 370 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:03.039 Yeah, so, I'm gonna just keep it as simple as 371 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:08.119 I possibly can. I really do think that the Milwaukee 372 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:12.160 Bucks need to win this to your point, but I 373 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:14.319 think the reason why they need to win this SHAW 374 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.759 is not for a lot of the reasons that you mentioned, 375 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:21.039 albeit they are very valid reasons. I just simply think, 376 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:26.039 and I go back to this about Giannis. I said 377 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.480 that if we want to buy into the idea that 378 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:31.759 the Milwaukee Bucks really do want to get to the 379 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:36.759 NBA Championship, They really want to give people a reason 380 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:40.799 to fear not wanting to play the Milwaukee Bucks. We 381 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:45.440 need the gyanis Atatukoumpo. That was not twenty nineteen win 382 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.680 the chip. I'm talking everything that led up to that 383 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:49.519 twenty nineteen. 384 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:52.920 Okay. Now, during the beginning of this year. 385 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.880 We've seen some you know, little instances of you know, 386 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:59.519 him playfully being like that guy again where you know 387 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:02.799 he's gonna be a holish to other stars, other people 388 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:05.599 that are getting the limelight sort of speak. And whether 389 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:09.359 or not that's tongue in cheek, I don't know. Obviously, 390 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:12.640 as you get older, Shaw, your mentality changes. Right, he 391 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:16.039 has a family. You know, he's already acknowledged among one 392 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:19.559 of the great power forwards of our generation. Right Like, 393 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:23.799 he's already he's already hit certain heights that has elevated 394 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:26.960 him into particular space. I do think though, that if 395 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.079 you're trying to validate a level of greatness, which some 396 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:30.960 guys after a while can say, you know what, I'm 397 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:33.880 great where I am and that's okay, ain't nobody takes 398 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:36.359 ain't nowayly gonna make lesser of what he's doing. But 399 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:38.680 I think if he still wants to be in those combinations, 400 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:41.279 those conversations among being one of the most dominant players 401 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:43.759