Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to Judy Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Speaker 1: Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom, how's it going?
Speaker 2: Tony? After being at practice this week and having several
Speaker 2: people power pause me in person, I think we just
Speaker 2: need to let everyone know. Number One, it will never
Speaker 2: not be funded to me. I want to let you
Speaker 2: know how much I appreciate it. Number Two, you got
Speaker 2: to hold that pause a little bit longer. I get
Speaker 2: the sense that people are listening to us that like
Speaker 2: one point two five speed, one and a half speed.
Speaker 2: You gotta hold the paws a little longer to make
Speaker 2: it clear what you're doing, because every once in a
Speaker 2: while it's like just it's a little too soon. So
Speaker 2: just just something as we get into camp season. It
Speaker 2: is preseason for everyone, Tony, and that's just something that
Speaker 2: everyone can just, you know, continue to work on as
Speaker 2: we get ready to kick off the football season.
Speaker 1: It's just too bad that that's become a normal greeting
Speaker 1: to you. I should have started something like a punch
Speaker 1: in the gut or something like that. That way when
Speaker 1: everybody sees it, Tom, you know, how's it going? And
Speaker 1: that would be great for all and but no, foresight
Speaker 1: involved in any of the show, as you people know.
Speaker 1: But it was great all three days saying hi to people,
Speaker 1: people coming up and saying, hey, always enjoy the show,
Speaker 1: thanks for what you do. You're hero among men. Just
Speaker 1: really I don't know if you got any of those time,
Speaker 1: but it was great to have everybody so so honored.
Speaker 1: I'd say to interact with us.
Speaker 2: And if you do see Tony in person, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously you can't powerpaulse him because that's his thing, but
Speaker 2: you can say, hey, chief, what's going on? So that's
Speaker 2: that's a traditional greeting if you see Tony in public.
Speaker 1: So while we were at the first three days of practice,
Speaker 1: we the fourth practice on Sunday was closed to the public,
Speaker 1: but we do want to talk about some of the
Speaker 1: things that we heard about going on at practice. Give
Speaker 1: you three standouts from the day, and I've let's start
Speaker 1: with let's start with a true freshman, which true freshman.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Jay Timmins, who we have seen the
Speaker 1: first three days working well at least the last two
Speaker 1: on Friday and Saturday, working with the ones at Nickel
Speaker 1: back there again from what we're told on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: boy Tom and your experience of doing this. If a
Speaker 1: true freshman is with the ones for the majority of say,
Speaker 1: the first week of fall camp, that to me means
Speaker 1: that you're going to be with the ones the majority
Speaker 1: of season, because one, you've already made the jump. You've
Speaker 1: you've made the move to the ones. Like, what is
Speaker 1: the point in seeing, well, let's just see what this
Speaker 1: freshman can do with the first team, Like this is
Speaker 1: this is a real thing here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a real thing for sure. If you
Speaker 2: see a guy with the ones right at the beginning
Speaker 2: of fall camp, generally they're going to default to the
Speaker 2: older guy because you can always go the older guy,
Speaker 2: and then the younger guy surpasses the older guy and
Speaker 2: wins the job. For the younger guy or the youngest
Speaker 2: guy in this case, to be the person who is
Speaker 2: repping with the ones already. That is that's pretty telling
Speaker 2: to me. And you know, as you said, Friday and Saturday, yes, Sunday.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes they'll do something and it's like, well,
Speaker 2: it's opening the public and then once the doors are
Speaker 2: closed then stuff will change. Does not sound like that's
Speaker 2: what happened when the doors got closed on Sunday. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that that to me is I'm not writing it down
Speaker 2: in ink just yet, but you know, I'm pushing pretty
Speaker 2: hard on the PA on my depth chart to write
Speaker 2: Jay Timmins's name in as the starting nickel. Just is
Speaker 2: one of those things where if you can do it
Speaker 2: right now, you're only going to get better. The learning
Speaker 2: curve is going to be much steeper for a true freshman,
Speaker 2: where if it's your fourth or fifth year, the extra
Speaker 2: ten practices, fifteen practices, it's not that much of your career.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, if you're three years old, a
Speaker 2: year is a huge chunk of your life. If you
Speaker 2: are sixty years old, a year is like a tiny
Speaker 2: slice of your life. It's the same thing for college
Speaker 2: football players. If you're a true freshman, this fall camp
Speaker 2: is basically more than half of your on field experience
Speaker 2: as a college player. If you're a fourth year player,
Speaker 2: fifth year player, it's just you know, it's just like
Speaker 2: one more slice of your college football career. So that
Speaker 2: is a long way of getting around to the point
Speaker 2: which I'm making, which is he's only going to get
Speaker 2: better as fall camp goes along, because you're going to
Speaker 2: start picking stuff up sooner. You're seeing a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff from the first time you're watching film of yourself
Speaker 2: for the first time against the Ones. He is only
Speaker 2: going to get better. Keep in mind he's a true freshman.
Speaker 2: There will be he will have freshman moments this fall.
Speaker 2: That is a thing that is going to happen. Just
Speaker 2: prepare yourself. It is not going to be perfect, but
Speaker 2: it sounds like it is almost certainly happening well.
Speaker 1: And there may still also be the freshman wall in camp,
Speaker 1: which will happen in the spring. For some guys, maybe
Speaker 1: it happens in fall and you've got to get through it.
Speaker 1: The I guess the real test would have been if
Speaker 1: Texas was the season opener this year, is he out
Speaker 1: there with the Ones? Is he starting getting that first
Speaker 1: game under the belt against ball State. I think we'll
Speaker 1: help everybody. I like that you said you're just pressing
Speaker 1: firmly in pencil. But Tom, if you remove that page,
Speaker 1: we can just like take a pencil over that and
Speaker 1: see what you have written down. So just keep that
Speaker 1: in mind. If you're ever like trying to hide something,
Speaker 1: we can we can still see what you wrote there.
Speaker 1: But just seeing him on Saturday on a couple of
Speaker 1: nickel blitzes and like, yeah, sure, blitzing as a nickel.
Speaker 1: If nobody's picking up, you're going to get the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But he's he's around the ball, and he is. It's
Speaker 1: just so I mean, that's his thing, right, is just
Speaker 1: being around the ball. You know, a a a straight
Speaker 1: football player. So like the idea that he's moved up
Speaker 1: the chart, the depth chart through spring and fall camp.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you know, that's what guys like him do,
Speaker 1: and now you just got to continue to perform and
Speaker 1: we'll see because he's you know, if you're working with
Speaker 1: the ones, you're working against the ones as well, so
Speaker 1: ones and twos, and you're gonna sink or swim, and
Speaker 1: they're giving him an opportunity to swim, and we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. But it's just very very interesting that he
Speaker 1: has been elevated so quickly because it doesn't mean nothing.
Speaker 1: It means something. So keep that in mind. The other
Speaker 1: two fresh we want to talk about her. You know
Speaker 1: I heard that legend by while overall there's some you know,
Speaker 1: the running game wasn't necessarily outstanding on Sunday and we're
Speaker 1: talking about a bunch of other things on the Buckeye
Speaker 1: Insider's message board, you can go find the thread we're
Speaker 1: talking about from Sunday practice, and also got a fall
Speaker 1: camp thread that has many many pages deep now from
Speaker 1: with practice reports there as well. But Legend Bay apparently
Speaker 1: had a pretty nice run today and we saw him
Speaker 1: doing some similar things on Saturday. His ability to spin
Speaker 1: out of trouble and the thing that struck me about
Speaker 1: him on Saturday, and it sounds like the same thing
Speaker 1: was going on on Sunday. He just gets when when
Speaker 1: tacklers are coming at him in one on one situations,
Speaker 1: he just gets so low to the ground while staying
Speaker 1: without being down, and guys just go right over top
Speaker 1: of him and he still has this balance and then
Speaker 1: he springs up and goes and just an interesting thing
Speaker 1: where he for this running game that can be styled
Speaker 1: if it does get stifled, there's always this threat that
Speaker 1: boom there he goes, And it sounds like that's that's
Speaker 1: what Sunday was.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The word that was used to describe it to
Speaker 2: me was shifty, which yeah, I mean, that's what he
Speaker 2: looks like. And on Saturday when we were in there,
Speaker 2: there was just it was like a swing pass out
Speaker 2: to the flat and he caught it, and he was
Speaker 2: going up against Jermaine Matthews was the one in coverage,
Speaker 2: and Jermaine Matthews was like squared up to him, and
Speaker 2: then just all of a sudden, like a little spin
Speaker 2: and he ducked and he got real low and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, boom, he's gone. And that is
Speaker 2: something that that is not something that everyone can do.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a football player at Ohio State,
Speaker 2: you are one of the very, very very high level
Speaker 2: athletes in the nation. But not even everyone on the
Speaker 2: Ohio State team has been able to do that. And
Speaker 2: that's something they've sort of been missing in some cases
Speaker 2: with the running back room in the past. Now there
Speaker 2: are a lot of moving pieces here with Legend Bay
Speaker 2: and he's still a true freshman, and you've got all
Speaker 2: sorts of other stuff you got to get handled on
Speaker 2: and off the field to make sure you are in
Speaker 2: a position to be out there and making these kind
Speaker 2: of plays. But it sure seems like if he can
Speaker 2: handle all the other stuff, all the less exciting stuff,
Speaker 2: he has the exciting stuff covered there. And you know
Speaker 2: it says, as you said, I think this is this
Speaker 2: was it sounds like it was a good day for
Speaker 2: the defense on the whole, but he maybe just brings
Speaker 2: something to this offense that they can't get a lot
Speaker 2: of other places. And I continue to think that he's
Speaker 2: going to be someone who is going to play a
Speaker 2: little a little more often than you would expect from
Speaker 2: a true freshman.
Speaker 1: The other thing that stuck out with me is just
Speaker 1: how hard he was running the entire time. His legs
Speaker 1: are always moving, just continually churning, and it kind of
Speaker 1: reminded me of back back in the back, back back
Speaker 1: day watching Roger Craig just always his high knees. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's got high Roger Craig knees, but it's
Speaker 1: just he's constantly moving and he's not sitting in one spot.
Speaker 1: He's looking for his next angle or move and it's
Speaker 1: just fun to watch. And you know, we'll get to
Speaker 1: see uh, we'll get to continue hearing more about him
Speaker 1: till we all get to see him in person. And
Speaker 1: the season opener you mentioned the defense having a good day.
Speaker 1: One of those guys having a good day. Bo Atkinson,
Speaker 1: the fifth year senior from North Carolina transferred, was a
Speaker 1: Buckeye last year. Of course, and came in with expectations
Speaker 1: that he will tell you he did not meet. He
Speaker 1: was not happy, But it sounds like and from what
Speaker 1: we're told, based on Sunday, what we saw this first weekend,
Speaker 1: I'm to the point now where I think while those
Speaker 1: expectations were over expectations, which I would look, have I done.
Speaker 1: Have we done some over expectations shows? Yes, we actually
Speaker 1: did two of them. But the I don't know that
Speaker 1: he was going to match the expectations I know he
Speaker 1: was last year was tough. I don't know that he
Speaker 1: can even match those expectations last year this year. But
Speaker 1: I do think based on what we've seen, what we're hearing,
Speaker 1: this is going to be the year that he wanted
Speaker 1: to have, that he thought he could have last year.
Speaker 1: But it was just a very eye opening experience for him.
Speaker 1: This first year is a buckey, and now he is
Speaker 1: much more prepared to become what people wanted him to become.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's probably a combination of physical
Speaker 2: development and growth, and he just he looks bigger this year,
Speaker 2: but he also looks a little quicker, a little more flexible,
Speaker 2: Like he jumped out on Saturday to me and was
Speaker 2: you know, he's he's repping. He was repping with the
Speaker 2: ones on Saturday, which was you know, that was not
Speaker 2: necessarily the first name we were saying in terms of
Speaker 2: who's going to line up across from Kenyata Jackson, and
Speaker 2: he was very consistently there and was making the most
Speaker 2: of his opportunities. And again sounds like that was happening
Speaker 2: again on Sunday in the practice he is. You know this,
Speaker 2: this would be a really big thing for Ohio State
Speaker 2: if you have another veteran guy, big strong guy who
Speaker 2: has sort of been there and seen there and seen
Speaker 2: it and done that, and you're not necessarily having to
Speaker 2: rely on well, you got to get forty snaps out
Speaker 2: of Ion Grady, you got to get forty snaps out
Speaker 2: of Episatonolite. You If those guys can be the third
Speaker 2: and fourth guys there and you get twenty snaps out
Speaker 2: of them and then if they're ready, great, by all
Speaker 2: means play forty, but you don't need to rely on
Speaker 2: them from right at the start of the season. That
Speaker 2: would be really, really helpful for Ohio State. And you know,
Speaker 2: it does feel like, as you said, he's not the
Speaker 2: expectations coming into last season were probably a little out
Speaker 2: of line with the production that he had at North
Speaker 2: Carolina because a lot of his production was concentrated just
Speaker 2: in a couple of games and it was not, you know,
Speaker 2: consistently throughout the course of the season. If he can
Speaker 2: be a consistent player for Ohio State this year, he
Speaker 2: doesn't you know, he doesn't need to be Chase Young,
Speaker 2: But if he can just be a consistent player and
Speaker 2: get them you know, I don't know, six sacks something
Speaker 2: like that this season off the edge and just be
Speaker 2: a really good, consistent veteran presence, take some of the
Speaker 2: pressure off some of the younger guys and let them
Speaker 2: kind of continue to come along as they are. That
Speaker 2: would be really really big for the defensive line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the depth that continues to build there, it
Speaker 1: will be interesting to watch. So those are some of
Speaker 1: the things that we're talking about. Even as as we're talking,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the text coming in on some
Speaker 1: of the stuff that we can throw up on the
Speaker 1: message board there at Buckeye Insiders dot com. And as
Speaker 1: Tom says, for the price of a lousy Chang Store
Speaker 1: pizza a month, and you know, you eat more lousy
Speaker 1: change store pizzas than just once a month, so you know,
Speaker 1: but sign up, come over, say hi, see what we're
Speaker 1: talking about, and much more coming as we're not going
Speaker 1: to be back at inside a practice maybe the rest
Speaker 1: of camp if if things go as expected. So that's
Speaker 1: why it's always good to have boots on the ground
Speaker 1: and you know, ears to the ground and all of
Speaker 1: that stuff. You can find all that at Buckeye Insider stockdown.
Speaker 1: So that will do it here. Thank you all for
Speaker 1: titting in and we'll talk to you all.
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