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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to Judy Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>Tony? After being at practice this week and having several

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<v Speaker 2>people power pause me in person, I think we just

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<v Speaker 2>need to let everyone know. Number One, it will never

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<v Speaker 2>not be funded to me. I want to let you

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<v Speaker 2>know how much I appreciate it. Number Two, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to hold that pause a little bit longer. I get

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<v Speaker 2>the sense that people are listening to us that like

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<v Speaker 2>one point two five speed, one and a half speed.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta hold the paws a little longer to make

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<v Speaker 2>it clear what you're doing, because every once in a

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<v Speaker 2>while it's like just it's a little too soon. So

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<v Speaker 2>just just something as we get into camp season. It

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<v Speaker 2>is preseason for everyone, Tony, and that's just something that

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<v Speaker 2>everyone can just, you know, continue to work on as

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<v Speaker 2>we get ready to kick off the football season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just too bad that that's become a normal greeting

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I should have started something like a punch

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<v Speaker 1>in the gut or something like that. That way when

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<v Speaker 1>everybody sees it, Tom, you know, how's it going? And

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<v Speaker 1>that would be great for all and but no, foresight

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<v Speaker 1>involved in any of the show, as you people know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was great all three days saying hi to people,

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<v Speaker 1>people coming up and saying, hey, always enjoy the show,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for what you do. You're hero among men. Just

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<v Speaker 1>really I don't know if you got any of those time,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was great to have everybody so so honored.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say to interact with us.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you do see Tony in person, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you can't powerpaulse him because that's his thing, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can say, hey, chief, what's going on? So that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's a traditional greeting if you see Tony in public.

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<v Speaker 1>So while we were at the first three days of practice,

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<v Speaker 1>we the fourth practice on Sunday was closed to the public,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do want to talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that we heard about going on at practice. Give

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<v Speaker 1>you three standouts from the day, and I've let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with let's start with a true freshman, which true freshman.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with Jay Timmins, who we have seen the

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<v Speaker 1>first three days working well at least the last two

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday and Saturday, working with the ones at Nickel

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<v Speaker 1>back there again from what we're told on Sunday, and

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<v Speaker 1>boy Tom and your experience of doing this. If a

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<v Speaker 1>true freshman is with the ones for the majority of say,

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<v Speaker 1>the first week of fall camp, that to me means

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to be with the ones the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of season, because one, you've already made the jump. You've

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<v Speaker 1>you've made the move to the ones. Like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the point in seeing, well, let's just see what this

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<v Speaker 1>freshman can do with the first team, Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is a real thing here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is a real thing for sure. If you

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<v Speaker 2>see a guy with the ones right at the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of fall camp, generally they're going to default to the

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<v Speaker 2>older guy because you can always go the older guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the younger guy surpasses the older guy and

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<v Speaker 2>wins the job. For the younger guy or the youngest

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<v Speaker 2>guy in this case, to be the person who is

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<v Speaker 2>repping with the ones already. That is that's pretty telling

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<v Speaker 2>to me. And you know, as you said, Friday and Saturday, yes, Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes they'll do something and it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's opening the public and then once the doors are

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<v Speaker 2>closed then stuff will change. Does not sound like that's

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<v Speaker 2>what happened when the doors got closed on Sunday. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that that to me is I'm not writing it down

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<v Speaker 2>in ink just yet, but you know, I'm pushing pretty

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<v Speaker 2>hard on the PA on my depth chart to write

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Timmins's name in as the starting nickel. Just is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things where if you can do it

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<v Speaker 2>right now, you're only going to get better. The learning

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<v Speaker 2>curve is going to be much steeper for a true freshman,

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<v Speaker 2>where if it's your fourth or fifth year, the extra

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<v Speaker 2>ten practices, fifteen practices, it's not that much of your career.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, if you're three years old, a

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<v Speaker 2>year is a huge chunk of your life. If you

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<v Speaker 2>are sixty years old, a year is like a tiny

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<v Speaker 2>slice of your life. It's the same thing for college

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<v Speaker 2>football players. If you're a true freshman, this fall camp

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<v Speaker 2>is basically more than half of your on field experience

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<v Speaker 2>as a college player. If you're a fourth year player,

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<v Speaker 2>fifth year player, it's just you know, it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>one more slice of your college football career. So that

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<v Speaker 2>is a long way of getting around to the point

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm making, which is he's only going to get

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<v Speaker 2>better as fall camp goes along, because you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>start picking stuff up sooner. You're seeing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff from the first time you're watching film of yourself

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time against the Ones. He is only

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<v Speaker 2>going to get better. Keep in mind he's a true freshman.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be he will have freshman moments this fall.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a thing that is going to happen. Just

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<v Speaker 2>prepare yourself. It is not going to be perfect, but

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like it is almost certainly happening well.

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<v Speaker 1>And there may still also be the freshman wall in camp,

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<v Speaker 1>which will happen in the spring. For some guys, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it happens in fall and you've got to get through it.

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<v Speaker 1>The I guess the real test would have been if

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<v Speaker 1>Texas was the season opener this year, is he out

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<v Speaker 1>there with the Ones? Is he starting getting that first

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<v Speaker 1>game under the belt against ball State. I think we'll

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<v Speaker 1>help everybody. I like that you said you're just pressing

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<v Speaker 1>firmly in pencil. But Tom, if you remove that page,

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<v Speaker 1>we can just like take a pencil over that and

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<v Speaker 1>see what you have written down. So just keep that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind. If you're ever like trying to hide something,

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<v Speaker 1>we can we can still see what you wrote there.

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<v Speaker 1>But just seeing him on Saturday on a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>nickel blitzes and like, yeah, sure, blitzing as a nickel.

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<v Speaker 1>If nobody's picking up, you're going to get the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's he's around the ball, and he is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just so I mean, that's his thing, right, is just

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<v Speaker 1>being around the ball. You know, a a a straight

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<v Speaker 1>football player. So like the idea that he's moved up

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<v Speaker 1>the chart, the depth chart through spring and fall camp.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, you know, that's what guys like him do,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you just got to continue to perform and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see because he's you know, if you're working with

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<v Speaker 1>the ones, you're working against the ones as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>ones and twos, and you're gonna sink or swim, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're giving him an opportunity to swim, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. But it's just very very interesting that he

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<v Speaker 1>has been elevated so quickly because it doesn't mean nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It means something. So keep that in mind. The other

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<v Speaker 1>two fresh we want to talk about her. You know

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that legend by while overall there's some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the running game wasn't necessarily outstanding on Sunday and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a bunch of other things on the Buckeye

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<v Speaker 1>Insider's message board, you can go find the thread we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about from Sunday practice, and also got a fall

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<v Speaker 1>camp thread that has many many pages deep now from

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<v Speaker 1>with practice reports there as well. But Legend Bay apparently

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<v Speaker 1>had a pretty nice run today and we saw him

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<v Speaker 1>doing some similar things on Saturday. His ability to spin

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<v Speaker 1>out of trouble and the thing that struck me about

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<v Speaker 1>him on Saturday, and it sounds like the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>was going on on Sunday. He just gets when when

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<v Speaker 1>tacklers are coming at him in one on one situations,

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<v Speaker 1>he just gets so low to the ground while staying

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<v Speaker 1>without being down, and guys just go right over top

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<v Speaker 1>of him and he still has this balance and then

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<v Speaker 1>he springs up and goes and just an interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>where he for this running game that can be styled

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<v Speaker 1>if it does get stifled, there's always this threat that

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<v Speaker 1>boom there he goes, And it sounds like that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what Sunday was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The word that was used to describe it to

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<v Speaker 2>me was shifty, which yeah, I mean, that's what he

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<v Speaker 2>looks like. And on Saturday when we were in there,

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<v Speaker 2>there was just it was like a swing pass out

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<v Speaker 2>to the flat and he caught it, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>going up against Jermaine Matthews was the one in coverage,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jermaine Matthews was like squared up to him, and

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<v Speaker 2>then just all of a sudden, like a little spin

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<v Speaker 2>and he ducked and he got real low and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, boom, he's gone. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>something that that is not something that everyone can do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're a football player at Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 2>you are one of the very, very very high level

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<v Speaker 2>athletes in the nation. But not even everyone on the

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State team has been able to do that. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's something they've sort of been missing in some cases

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<v Speaker 2>with the running back room in the past. Now there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of moving pieces here with Legend Bay

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<v Speaker 2>and he's still a true freshman, and you've got all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of other stuff you got to get handled on

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<v Speaker 2>and off the field to make sure you are in

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<v Speaker 2>a position to be out there and making these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of plays. But it sure seems like if he can

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<v Speaker 2>handle all the other stuff, all the less exciting stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>he has the exciting stuff covered there. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>it says, as you said, I think this is this

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<v Speaker 2>was it sounds like it was a good day for

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<v Speaker 2>the defense on the whole, but he maybe just brings

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<v Speaker 2>something to this offense that they can't get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other places. And I continue to think that he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be someone who is going to play a

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<v Speaker 2>little a little more often than you would expect from

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<v Speaker 2>a true freshman.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that stuck out with me is just

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<v Speaker 1>how hard he was running the entire time. His legs

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<v Speaker 1>are always moving, just continually churning, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me of back back in the back, back back

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<v Speaker 1>day watching Roger Craig just always his high knees. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying he's got high Roger Craig knees, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just he's constantly moving and he's not sitting in one spot.

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<v Speaker 1>He's looking for his next angle or move and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just fun to watch. And you know, we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>see uh, we'll get to continue hearing more about him

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<v Speaker 1>till we all get to see him in person. And

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<v Speaker 1>the season opener you mentioned the defense having a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those guys having a good day. Bo Atkinson,

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth year senior from North Carolina transferred, was a

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<v Speaker 1>Buckeye last year. Of course, and came in with expectations

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<v Speaker 1>that he will tell you he did not meet. He

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<v Speaker 1>was not happy, But it sounds like and from what

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<v Speaker 1>we're told, based on Sunday, what we saw this first weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm to the point now where I think while those

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<v Speaker 1>expectations were over expectations, which I would look, have I done.

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<v Speaker 1>Have we done some over expectations shows? Yes, we actually

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<v Speaker 1>did two of them. But the I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to match the expectations I know he

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<v Speaker 1>was last year was tough. I don't know that he

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<v Speaker 1>can even match those expectations last year this year. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think based on what we've seen, what we're hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>to have, that he thought he could have last year.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was just a very eye opening experience for him.

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<v Speaker 1>This first year is a buckey, and now he is

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<v Speaker 1>much more prepared to become what people wanted him to become.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think that's probably a combination of physical

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<v Speaker 2>development and growth, and he just he looks bigger this year,

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<v Speaker 2>but he also looks a little quicker, a little more flexible,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he jumped out on Saturday to me and was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's he's repping. He was repping with the

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<v Speaker 2>ones on Saturday, which was you know, that was not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily the first name we were saying in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to line up across from Kenyata Jackson, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was very consistently there and was making the most

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<v Speaker 2>of his opportunities. And again sounds like that was happening

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<v Speaker 2>again on Sunday in the practice he is. You know this,

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<v Speaker 2>this would be a really big thing for Ohio State

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<v Speaker 2>if you have another veteran guy, big strong guy who

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<v Speaker 2>has sort of been there and seen there and seen

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<v Speaker 2>it and done that, and you're not necessarily having to

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<v Speaker 2>rely on well, you got to get forty snaps out

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<v Speaker 2>of Ion Grady, you got to get forty snaps out

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<v Speaker 2>of Episatonolite. You If those guys can be the third

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<v Speaker 2>and fourth guys there and you get twenty snaps out

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<v Speaker 2>of them and then if they're ready, great, by all

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<v Speaker 2>means play forty, but you don't need to rely on

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<v Speaker 2>them from right at the start of the season. That

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<v Speaker 2>would be really, really helpful for Ohio State. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it does feel like, as you said, he's not the

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<v Speaker 2>expectations coming into last season were probably a little out

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<v Speaker 2>of line with the production that he had at North

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina because a lot of his production was concentrated just

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<v Speaker 2>in a couple of games and it was not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>consistently throughout the course of the season. If he can

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<v Speaker 2>be a consistent player for Ohio State this year, he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't you know, he doesn't need to be Chase Young,

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<v Speaker 2>But if he can just be a consistent player and

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<v Speaker 2>get them you know, I don't know, six sacks something

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<v Speaker 2>like that this season off the edge and just be

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<v Speaker 2>a really good, consistent veteran presence, take some of the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure off some of the younger guys and let them

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<v Speaker 2>kind of continue to come along as they are. That

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<v Speaker 2>would be really really big for the defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the depth that continues to build there, it

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<v Speaker 1>will be interesting to watch. So those are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we're talking about. Even as as we're talking,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking at the text coming in on some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that we can throw up on the

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<v Speaker 1>message board there at Buckeye Insiders dot com. And as

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<v Speaker 1>Tom says, for the price of a lousy Chang Store

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<v Speaker 1>pizza a month, and you know, you eat more lousy

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<v Speaker 1>change store pizzas than just once a month, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but sign up, come over, say hi, see what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, and much more coming as we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be back at inside a practice maybe the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of camp if if things go as expected. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's always good to have boots on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, ears to the ground and all of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. You can find all that at Buckeye Insider stockdown.

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<v Speaker 1>So that will do it here. Thank you all for

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<v Speaker 1>titting in and we'll talk to you all.

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<v Speaker 2>This time. What else, nothing away? The lone tell me

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you devilment nothing to me, w if you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell me that's the moors all right, we can

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<v Speaker 2>steal current. Leave tonight
