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<v Speaker 1>I made a prediction on the record on Twitter a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of about a week or so ago.

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<v Speaker 2>My great prediction was.

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<v Speaker 1>That we weren't really going to learn as that basically

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<v Speaker 1>the release of the Epstein files, the JFK files, the

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<v Speaker 1>RFK files, and the MLK files we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be nearly as interesting or as exciting as everyone sort

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<v Speaker 1>of declared them to be. I feel like it's all

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<v Speaker 1>going to be kind of a flop end. That is

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<v Speaker 1>indeed what happened yes yesterday. Pam Bondi released some version

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<v Speaker 1>of the Epstein files, and it was this binder that

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<v Speaker 1>they were handing out to stupid right wing influencers at

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<v Speaker 1>the White House who were parading around with it as

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<v Speaker 1>if it was some moment of triumph. And then everyone

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<v Speaker 1>looked at it and realized it was all stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much everyone already knew before.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all stuff that was already kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part of publicly available. Actually, one of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Really funny things was some of the stuff in the

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<v Speaker 1>release files was redacted, even though that specific document had

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<v Speaker 1>already been released to the public in an unredacted form.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody learned anything, so it was like, well, why release anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Bondi is doing what appeerd. I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a total BS save face move or if it's genuine.

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<v Speaker 1>She released the same day that this version of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein files gets released, which was filled with a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of nothing, Bondi releases this letter that she sent

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<v Speaker 1>to Cash Patel, the new head of the FBI, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I learned through a whistleblower that there are hundreds and

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds and hundreds of pages of documents relating to Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>that are in possession of the Southern District of New York,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, of the FBI Field Office in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had requested all documents relating to Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 1>and they told me they gave me everything. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned through a whistleblower that they didn't. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to get me all this stuff. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's really what's happening. My faith in

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing has been shaken by has been shaken

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<v Speaker 1>by the release of that first binder, which was full

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<v Speaker 1>of nothing very interesting at all. So here's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons for my skepticism about the Epstein stuff. First,

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<v Speaker 1>Gislaine Maxwell, who was Epstein's you know, partnering crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Her.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of her legal disputes are still in appeal, including

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<v Speaker 1>that she's got an appeal going out to the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court itself. So there may be actual litigation, ongoing litigation

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<v Speaker 1>reasons to not release a bunch of new evidence relating

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<v Speaker 1>to her that relates to Epstein and thereby relates to her. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that might be an issue. I mean, it might

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<v Speaker 1>be the case that Bondie will get to the finish

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<v Speaker 1>line of this and realize that she can't actually keep

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing because it would jeopardize this federal case against Islane

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell that is currently on appeal. The other reason for

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<v Speaker 1>my skipticism about this now, and again just for summary

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<v Speaker 1>for those who don't know, Jeffrey Epstein was this suspiciously

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly wealthy New York socialite type who got all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of money from all kinds of people and had an

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<v Speaker 1>island in the Caribbean where he would fly apparently influential

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<v Speaker 1>people out for sex trafficking of young women.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have solid evidence, We already know that the.

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<v Speaker 1>We already know a lot of stuff about Fstein's conduct

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<v Speaker 1>and who he was doing stuff with. That That's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason why I'm not like really expecting that much,

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<v Speaker 1>because we already know a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that Bill Clinton took flights over there. We

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<v Speaker 2>know he had a.

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<v Speaker 1>Close relationship with Bill Gates that caused Milindigates to divorce

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Gates. We know other people who flew on planes.

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<v Speaker 1>We know Donald Trump took a plane flight at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's much evidence that Donald Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything Vodeo dose suspicious. But Epstein knew a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of people in places of power in New York. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's photos of videos of Trump hanging out with him

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<v Speaker 1>and talking to him. So I think we know a

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<v Speaker 1>good bit of what he did and with whom a

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Hawking was going over to his island.

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<v Speaker 2>We already know a good bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We already know a good bit from the documents that

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<v Speaker 1>were already released. So this is another reason why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not sure that whatever else there is.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there, that it's not going to be released. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is maybe the.

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<v Speaker 1>Last point for why I don't think the Epstein stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is all that great. All right, say what you will

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<v Speaker 1>about whatever. The problem with this is that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the the narrative behind why everything hasn't been released

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<v Speaker 1>about Jeffrey Epstein. The narrative is it's because Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>had compromat, compromising material.

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<v Speaker 2>On all kinds of people in positions of influence.

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<v Speaker 1>And power throughout our government, and that the powers that be,

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<v Speaker 1>the establishment, whatever establishment bogeyman you want. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>conservatives assume it's all Democrat powers that be and Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>assume it's all Democrat powers that be.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone doesn't want the truth to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, and that is why Jeffrey Epstein was murdered, tried

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<v Speaker 1>to play it off as a suicide, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know everything. The one problem with this conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>theory is that federal prosecutors did actually bring the charges

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<v Speaker 1>against Epstein and brought the charges against Maxwell. Now, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff in the Maxwell trial was not made public,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes people very very suspicious. But I guess here,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my thing with like your your Pambondy and Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and Pambondy making this big stink about.

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<v Speaker 4>When we come in, we're gonna find accountability. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>We're we're gonna be the ones we're gonna release the

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<v Speaker 4>Epstein list. We're gonna release the Epstein files. And the

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<v Speaker 4>theory is, well, there's a list out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all the people who went to Epstein's island for

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<v Speaker 1>sex with underage women.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a list, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Something, there's a smoking gun out there that shows all

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<v Speaker 1>the rich and powerful people in society who were going

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<v Speaker 1>to Epstein's island for their disgusting whatever, and that if

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<v Speaker 1>only we can get that one document released, will be good.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that one smoking gun exists. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I doubt David Epstein had his notebook of

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<v Speaker 1>prominent people who are my clients for sex trafficking purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>Be surprised if there was a lot of pen to paper. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's some evidence out there, Maybe there is some

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<v Speaker 1>smoking gun out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a more meaningful thing to do rather than

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<v Speaker 1>making a pledge about some big showy release of documents.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, Pam Bondi made this big stink about, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna release these documents, We're gonna show them. And

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<v Speaker 1>she had nothing, I mean she had relatively nothing, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that interesting, and now she's saying, oh, now I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get all the documents. If you actually have a definitive list,

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<v Speaker 1>go prosecute those people. I don't need you to release

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<v Speaker 1>it to the public. Go prosecute them. That's what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you actually got enough evidence, file charges.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, call me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'd rather if a bunch of rich, powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>famous people were engaged in sex trafficking, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>for them to be prosecuted for sex trafficking. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need them to be embarrassed. I mean, yes, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like them to be embarrassed, but I would like them

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<v Speaker 1>to be worse than embarrassed. I would like them to

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<v Speaker 1>go to jail. So, in short, this is what and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's my thing is these federal prosecutors were

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive enough. So I guess this is the problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the conspiracy theory thinking if you take it too far.

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<v Speaker 1>So federal prosecutors were unafraid enough of the repercussions of

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<v Speaker 1>exposing the rich and the powerful, unafraid enough to prosecute

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein and Maxwell, but they're too afraid to prosecute the

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<v Speaker 1>other people they were servicing. Even though in prosecuting Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>and Epstein, information did come out that was at least

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat embarrassing to Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't buy it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think there's some And I realize like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone on the right is sort of conn I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone on the right has been thoroughly conditioned to reject

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<v Speaker 1>the status quo answer that's given on so many topics.

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<v Speaker 1>So much of what we were told about COVID was

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<v Speaker 1>just a flat out lie. So much of what we

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<v Speaker 1>were told about Joe Biden's health was just a flat

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<v Speaker 1>out lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Conservatives are understandably.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing lies and political manipulation around every corner.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. I guess it. I get it. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I'm just not seeing the internal.

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<v Speaker 1>Logical consistency of federal prosecutors were brave enough, unafraid of

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<v Speaker 1>the consequences enough to prosecute Maxwell and Epstein to have

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<v Speaker 1>information be released that was damning to one of the

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<v Speaker 1>richest men in the world, literally top five, Bill Gates is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where he is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's musk.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think Bill Gates is like number two,

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<v Speaker 1>number two, number three, something like that for the richest

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<v Speaker 1>man of the world. A former American president and a

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<v Speaker 1>current American president. I guess I just find it. I

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<v Speaker 1>find it highly unlikely that there's someone there that we're

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<v Speaker 1>still protecting, although I don't know, maybe the proof's in

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<v Speaker 1>the pudding. I mean, here's Epstein dying under these incredibly fishy,

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious circumstances when one guard turns off the cameras, has

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<v Speaker 1>his back turned all of a sudden, No, David Epstein's

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<v Speaker 1>dead by suicide. There was a lot of stuff within

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<v Speaker 1>the Maxwell trial that was sort of sealed and not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily open to the public. But I just think in general,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got Epstein's documents and you've got Maxwell singing,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't they have been able to prosecute some of these

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<v Speaker 1>prominent johns. I don't know, maybe, or on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they don't have much documentary evidence about specific persons,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe Maxwell wasn't giving up too many names.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, I'd like to know as

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<v Speaker 2>much of the truth as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>But it clearly doesn't actually seem like it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like the government has now unless all this stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly in the FBI field office in New York, unless

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff's got the smoking gun somewhere. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a little suspicious. And by the way, just

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<v Speaker 1>from just for clarification, there is evidence of Trump having

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<v Speaker 1>flown on Epstein's plane seven times, sometimes with his wife

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<v Speaker 1>and his daughter. There's no evidence of Trump ever having

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<v Speaker 1>gone to the island. Trump said in twenty nineteen, after

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein was arrested that basically he hadn't spoken to Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>for something like fifteen years after they had had a

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<v Speaker 1>falling out. So I don't think Donald Trump was involved

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<v Speaker 1>in sex trafficking or anything. Bill Clinton had a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more of an interaction. Flight logs kept by one of

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<v Speaker 1>the plane's pilots and used in court proceedings show that

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton flew from New York to Britain and back

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<v Speaker 1>in March two thousand and two from its Sugi, Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>to two locations in China, as well as to Singapore, Thailand,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brunei between May twenty second and May twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty of two thousand and two, Clinton in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two flew from Morocco to the Azores.

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<v Speaker 2>And onto New York.

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<v Speaker 1>On September twenty first, from the New York back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Azores, tween October fifth and October ninth, Epstein's plane

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<v Speaker 1>flew the former president from Oslo, Norway, to Russia three

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully there's more, Hopefully there can be genuine justice shown

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<v Speaker 1>on the matter when we return why I'm suspicious we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find anything interesting in the JFK, MLK and RFK files.

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<v Speaker 1>Next on the John Girardi Show, I have I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>through my list of reasons why I'm skeptical that anything

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<v Speaker 2>We had yesterday, Oh, we're releasing the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they released a binder full of nothing interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>Bondi clearly realizes how not interesting all these documents are,

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<v Speaker 1>I learned through a whistleblower that there's a bunch more

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<v Speaker 1>documents in the FBI office in New York. Get them

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<v Speaker 1>to me, please. Why weren't they given to me initially?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe something there I don't know. Let me go further

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the pledged by Trump release of all

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<v Speaker 1>the files relating to the JFK, RFK and MLK assassinations. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard a lot more inspiracy theorizing about the JFK

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<v Speaker 1>assassination then I did about Robert Kennedy's assassination or Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Luther King's assassination. So probably my comments are mostly going

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<v Speaker 1>there's some people who are like really into the JFK

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<v Speaker 1>assassination and really have studied it, read about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my brother once had a book I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was my dad or my older brother

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really care.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's much more of a pressing concern for

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<v Speaker 2>This is like getting up, Oh, we're going to get the.

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<v Speaker 1>Real scoop on what really happened to Julius Caesar, like

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<v Speaker 1>ancient history. As far as I'm concerned, I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>nothing that's going to be released from the JFK files

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<v Speaker 1>that will actually result in people running. JFK was not

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<v Speaker 1>actually killed by Lee Harvey Oswald, conspiracy theorists and whatever

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<v Speaker 1>range of I don't want to call it all conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's crazy to think the official story

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<v Speaker 1>a CIA memo in there that says, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the public that Lee Harvey Oswald did it. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>we the CIA assassinated JFK.

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<v Speaker 2>Lee Harvey Oswald was clearly at guys.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the JFK files have been in the possession

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<v Speaker 2>Since nineteen sixty three. Whatever files there are about.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been in the possession of the CIA or

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI or whoever since the sixties. First, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think all the documents are in one place. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>file under the presidential desk that says the JFK files

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<v Speaker 1>and all the documents are just right there waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>No, they're probably scattered all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>There's probably if there's information about it, it's probably a

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<v Speaker 2>Different agencies looking at it from different angles.

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<v Speaker 1>Secondly, if they release what if they release all the

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<v Speaker 1>JFK files and everything in the JFK file says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we think it was just Lee Harvey Oswald. We think

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<v Speaker 1>he acted alone. The conventional story, what are the conspiracy theorists.

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<v Speaker 1>But what are the people, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to call them conspiracy theorists.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the people who don't think it was just

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone. What are they gonna say, Well, clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna say that the fed's tampered with the documents,

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<v Speaker 1>tampered with the evidence, and hid the evidence. They've had

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years worth of time, including like years of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>or forty years of pre internet time to actually physically

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate physical pieces of paper with information on it that's

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<v Speaker 1>not digitized and not scanned and not on the floating

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<v Speaker 1>or in the database. So if the what if the

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<v Speaker 1>conventional story is the story that comes out of whatever

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<v Speaker 1>gonna believe it. It's not gonna change anything. Everyone's just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, well, yes, the CIA deleted all the CIA

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, if the CIA.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to go to the full level conspiracy theory, the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA is ticked off at JFK because if how he

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<v Speaker 2>Anymore. The CIA assassinates JFK. Maybe they use Oswald as

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<v Speaker 1>The two guys on the Grassy Knoll were actually CIA

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<v Speaker 1>assassins and Oswald was there as a plant.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you really think the CIA is gonna leave behind

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of paper with that plan on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Here is our CIA plan for how to assassinate John F. Kennedy,

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<v Speaker 2>the President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>An act that would be tree, I mean, a plot,

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<v Speaker 1>a scheme that will certainly result in everyone doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like, no, there's it's not written.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure nobody wrote anything down, and if they

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, we're not gonna find anything all.

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<v Speaker 1>That interesting in the JFK, RFKMLK files. I'd be delighted

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<v Speaker 1>if we found something interesting. Would be super cool and interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>just like if we found a new Roman historian writing

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. I just don't think we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>All right, when we return the Trump administration catering to

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<v Speaker 1>dumb conservative influencers and why it's not helping right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's next on the John Gerrardy Show. A lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff in this nascent second Trump administration has involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Direction from right wing social media influencers. This has been

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<v Speaker 1>It's been in spite of the fact that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of Chinese spyware. Well, Trump changed his mind

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And Trump has been very open saying his reasons, why, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok helped me win the election. I'm doing really good

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok, that that's one of his there's openly stated reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, forget the fact that it's Chinese spyware to

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<v Speaker 1>there's more nefarious stuff behind it, like deliberately trying to

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<v Speaker 1>it helped Trump win the election, so he supports it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there have been a lot of other things that

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<v Speaker 1>of right wing or at the very least like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of right wing coded influencers. A lot of this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with the Epstein Files of one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>wing online influencers who were at the White House parading

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<v Speaker 1>around with the binders of the year. The Epstein files

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<v Speaker 1>have been released, all so cool, and then people actually

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<v Speaker 1>looked through what was released and realized, oh, there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>nothing interesting in here. A lot of this stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>already publicly, this is revealed. Actually absolutely nothing, giant fart.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know who's been pushing for the other.

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<v Speaker 2>People on right wing media, right wing twitter types.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the latest thing that seems to be driven by

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<v Speaker 1>some divides within the right. Who are these people? Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Authorities for sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 1>There is good evidence from Andrew Tates's own mouth and

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<v Speaker 2>That is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it's an unalloyed I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>Like like, I guess the you know, sort of Middle

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<v Speaker 1>seems as though some sort of diplomatic arrangement was made

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<v Speaker 1>to allow these guys who I don't know the exact

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<v Speaker 1>status of their criminal proceedings in Romania, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they were arrested by Romanian authorities on sex trafficking charges.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are we.

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<v Speaker 1>Letting them into the United States? I mean, call me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want immigrants with extensive criminal records in their

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<v Speaker 1>home country, any kind of criminal record, let alone sex trafficking,

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<v Speaker 1>coming into the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get a sense that some sort of diplomatic

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<v Speaker 1>something was arranged to allow these guys to come in.

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<v Speaker 2>Now apparently they're coming to Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron DeSantis made it clear he doesn't want these guys there,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talked about it at a press conference the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, and he was saying, I'm going to look

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<v Speaker 1>into whatever mechanisms we legally have to not allow this.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want guys like this in Florida, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. You know, is there some kind of extradition thing,

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that they were accused of sex crimes

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<v Speaker 1>over there? You know, blah blah blah blah blah. I

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<v Speaker 1>DeSantis is not pleased with this whole thing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's some sort of divide between DeSantis versus folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Within the Trump orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's always been, you know, always been tensions,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly ever since the twenty twenty four primary cycle. There's

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<v Speaker 1>always been tensions between the DeSantis people and the Trump people,

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<v Speaker 1>and this seems to be another avenue now. I think

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<v Speaker 1>basically what's happening is the Trump people have all sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of decided.

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<v Speaker 1>If there is anything that is popular among right shifting

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<v Speaker 1>gen Z voters, we are going to embrace it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Politically speaking, this is the path forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares about Chinese ownership of TikTok and whatever kind

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<v Speaker 1>of threat it might pose it. But forget what we

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<v Speaker 1>said in the first Trump administration about TikTok being beat.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna come hell or high water, We're gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok afloat. Forget what anyone said about, you know, forget

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<v Speaker 1>anything Andrew Tate has clearly done as far as being

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<v Speaker 1>a pornographer and a pimp and a.

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<v Speaker 2>Possible sex trafficker. Forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't care if he's popular among and if he's

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<v Speaker 1>vaguely right wing coded, even though I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>anything much he talks about that's necessarily conservative or right wing.

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<v Speaker 1>Necessarily I guess he doesn't like liberals. If it's at

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<v Speaker 1>all vaguely right wing coded. We're gonna be nice to

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<v Speaker 1>the Tate brothers. Why well, because it's right wing influencers,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is we perceive this to be popular with

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<v Speaker 1>gen Z voters, so we're gonna embrace it. And politically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe that's the sound strategy. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the right thing to do at all. I

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<v Speaker 1>get the broader picture. Yes, that's smart politics. It may

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<v Speaker 1>very well be smart politics, but I think it's the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong thing to do. I think it is bad to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is the kind of guy you

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<v Speaker 1>should be promoting and pushing whatever. Go on to Joe Rogan,

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<v Speaker 1>go on to you know, all these other that there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of other outlets that gen Z emails

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<v Speaker 1>are looking at that aren't actively promoted, that aren't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>actively promoting pornography and sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 2>But this seems to me more than a bridge too far.

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<v Speaker 3>When we return my thesis about who is the happiest,

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<v Speaker 3>that Elon Musk is the most prominent person in the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Next on the John Gerardy Show, Elon Musk is a

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<v Speaker 1>lightning rod. You know what a lightning rod actually does.

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<v Speaker 1>So you put a lightning rod on the top of

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<v Speaker 1>a building, and you then have the metal of which

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<v Speaker 1>the lightning rod is made conducts electricity, conducts electrons. You

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<v Speaker 1>then take the metal, have it, you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>track along the whole side of the building until it

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<v Speaker 1>gets to the ground, so that the electricity can safely

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<v Speaker 1>be grounded and not harm anything. Instead of lightning striking

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<v Speaker 1>this tall building and lighting it on fire and you

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<v Speaker 1>have a disaster, you have your lightning rod. It hits

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<v Speaker 1>the lightning rod, electricity harmlessly goes down to the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Easy pasy. That's what Elon Musk is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how important Elon Musk is. He's

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<v Speaker 1>very prominent and public facing. And wow, what a great

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<v Speaker 1>way for Trump to sort of wave Elon around with

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<v Speaker 1>one hand.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who's happy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nobody happier about Elon Musk being where he is than,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the people who are on the Domestic Policy Council.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard of the Domestic Policy Council? Of

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<v Speaker 2>course you have it.

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<v Speaker 1>These are like the advisors who actually are directing Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump for day to day. It's all these people you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard of, various kinds of Trump advisors who are

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<v Speaker 1>getting everything they want out of the Trump administration as

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<v Speaker 1>far as policy creation. Now, I'm not saying Musk is

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<v Speaker 1>an uninfluential, unimportant person. Musk dropped tens of millions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on the Trump campaign. Clearly he's getting something, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and clearly what the stuff that he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>via Doge and whatnot is significant. I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>downplay it. But nobody's happier about this than Steven Miller. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Steven Miller, who big time Trump advisor in Trump one,

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<v Speaker 1>continues to be a big possibly even bigger time Trump

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<v Speaker 1>advisor in Trump two, who's getting everything he wants, every

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<v Speaker 1>policy decision he wants out of this Trump administration. And meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the media all mad at? They're mad at Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, this is the thing, with all

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<v Speaker 1>that Elon Musk stirman drunk, Trump's gonna completely win all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Ultimately, the president gets to decide stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>done within the executive branch. If Trump is delegating Elon

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<v Speaker 1>to issue those decrees.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing wrong with it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone really think that cabinet secretaries weren't taking their

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<v Speaker 1>orders from instead of Joe Biden himself, from Joe Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>chief of staff, Jeff Resents Towards the end there especially,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking orders from Jeff Zence. Nobody was seeing Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>And probably it's fine even that in a certain sense,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's coming from the president, you have to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think Trump's going to win all these legal challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately when it comes to Elon, that'll do it for

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<v Speaker 1>Johns already show see you next time on Power Talk.
