WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:05.839 Mhm, weird way. 2 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:24.920 We can kill a. 3 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:32.000 Good time. Shut up? 4 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:49.560 What the hell are you? 5 00:00:55.479 --> 00:01:00.399 Welcome back to YOCHI fist. This is my bad as 6 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.679 Father Malone voice, So for the rest of the evening 7 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:08.439 you're gonna think, Oh man, Father Malone, he's a real betass. 8 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:11.120 Welcome back to Yeah that hurts. 9 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:13.159 Let's gonna get old real quick. 10 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.000 Oh got real old in the throat real quick. 11 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:18.560 Well, welcome back to Yahoo Ja Fest, where we are 12 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:23.599 discussing the Predator films in order chronologically speaking, and as 13 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.239 always with me to discuss it as mister HP, host 14 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:29.319 of Noise Junkies and Night, mister Walters, How are you HP? 15 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:33.719 I'm fantastic. I'm so pumped to get into this. After 16 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.879 the debacle that was Alien Versus Predator requiem, I was 17 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.000 ready for a palate cleanser and this was the perfect 18 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:42.480 palate cleanser, Father Malone. 19 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.560 And what are we talking about? Predators? Here's the trailer. 20 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:57.040 What's the last thing you remembered? All of a sudden, 21 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:07.760 there was a lightn and then I was pauling, who 22 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:08.080 are here? 23 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:10.400 I was supposed to be executed two days ago. 24 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:13.960 And I was in combat. So was that Black ops. 25 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:19.479 Will do this us. 26 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:36.919 We were chosen just a for what. 27 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:49.240 I brought it for the same purpose. 28 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:52.120 Being hunted. 29 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:56.800 This planet is a game. 30 00:02:56.719 --> 00:03:01.240 Preserve where the game. 31 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:20.680 Yeah, how don't we kill them? 32 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:21.520 However you can. 33 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:37.840 Predators released on July ninth, twenty ten, directed by Nimrod Antal, 34 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:41.719 written by Alex Litvak and Michael Finch, based on characters 35 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:43.639 by Jim and John Thomas. 36 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:44.879 Darring Adrian Brody. 37 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.479 I just want to say, Christopher Grace Toafer Grace, Alice Braga, 38 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:55.840 Walton Goggins, Olig oh Man, this one Oleg Taktarov, Okay, 39 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:59.479 I'm gonna do it again now, Olig Taktaroff, Lawrence Fishburne, 40 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:01.639 Danny Freyhill, Mike got It goes on and on, mar 41 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.240 Herschela Ali, Louis Zaala. 42 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:06.719 I'm naming everybody in the fucking cast. You know what. 43 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:10.599 Here are the Predators Carrie Jones, Brian Steele and Derek Meers. 44 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:12.240 That's pretty much everybody, isn't it. 45 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:17.879 Yeah, it's a sprawling cast, but a little look ahead. 46 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.920 It didn't like we've had sprawling casts in the past. 47 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.319 Couple of movies we reviewed, Father blahlone, but this one 48 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:28.639 didn't feel sprawling because everyone, all the characters were delineated 49 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:31.480 really well. You didn't spend too much time in any 50 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.079 one character. It was It's a lot of characters to 51 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:37.439 keep track of, but somehow it was easier than the 52 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:39.000 past two movies put together. 53 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:43.600 You think the characters in this particular plot made more sense. 54 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.839 One hundred percent. So the plot for this movie is, 55 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:52.240 basically is it seven seven disparate characters end up on 56 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:57.120 a mysterious planet. Let's say it's not Earth spoiler alert. 57 00:04:57.600 --> 00:04:59.959 They don't know how they got there. They just literally 58 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:03.800 dropped from the sky in parachutes. They're all from all 59 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:04.920 different walks of life. 60 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:08.800 They're from all different military backgrounds. 61 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:12.199 Fair point, fair point, they're all. The thing that links them, 62 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:17.879 it seems, is they're all murder killers. They're murderers. Adrian 63 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:19.879 Brodie's characterism is a mercenary. 64 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:21.920 Some might say they're all predator. 65 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:24.360 That's true. That's the double meaning of the title. So 66 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.959 they're all dropped onto this planet, literally dropped on this planet, 67 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:31.240 and they have to figure out why they're there. And 68 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:34.399 through the course of the movie, they obviously figure out 69 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.959 that they're there because they're being hunted by our favorite youches. 70 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:42.399 In this case, three of them are out to kill them. 71 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:47.160 It is essentially a game preserve, as Adrian Brodie's character 72 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:49.160 says at one point, it's a game preserve and they're 73 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:53.360 the game. So the movie becomes a They're very indebted. 74 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:55.959 They make no bones about the fact that they're indebted 75 00:05:56.040 --> 00:06:00.839 to the first Predator movie. I think after AVP and 76 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:05.839 AVP Requiem, they realized that they needed to reboot and 77 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.000 readjust where the series was going. So they took that 78 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:09.759 as they're in spree. 79 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:13.319 Okay, that is the plot for this movie. Now. 80 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:19.040 Legendarily, this was produced by Robert Rodriguez, and the lore was, 81 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:21.759 and what we had heard about for a decade or 82 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.160 two before this film, or decade and a half anyway, 83 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:27.600 was that at one point Robert Rodriguez had been hired 84 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.720 to make a direct sequel to Predator and Predator two, 85 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:32.800 and that was Predators. He was hired to write a 86 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.839 screenplay in nineteen ninety six thereabouts. 87 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:37.879 It was when he was doing Desperado, so. 88 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:41.360 He wrote the script, and what we've heard is that 89 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.399 they didn't move on it. Then they ended up going 90 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:49.600 with other properties, and then after AVP Requiem eight shit, 91 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.759 they wanted to reinvigorate it, so they recontacted Robert Rodriguez. 92 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.759 He had that script rewritten, and that's the movie we got. 93 00:06:57.399 --> 00:06:59.920 Have you read Robert Rodriguez's draft of the screen? 94 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.120 No, if not, I have, And let me tell you 95 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:07.000 other than the fact that there's a game preserve and 96 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:09.560 at one point there is a predator who is tied 97 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:14.279 up as a prisoner that becomes an ally. Very little remains. 98 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.839 For instance, it takes place on a distant planet. Okay, 99 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:20.680 that's similar. It takes place in the future, and the 100 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:26.199 lead character is Dutch Oh Schwarzenegger on another planet on 101 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:31.399 a Spanish Gallean pirate ship because he has deserted the 102 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.560 regular army, at which point the regular army shows up 103 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:38.319 and boards their pirate ship and they're all dressed like predators, 104 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:42.639 these humans, because what we come to find out, it's 105 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.319 a prison movie. First of all, it's the shipping Dutch 106 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.040 off to prison, and then they end up getting overrun 107 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:52.560 by predators, and then it's a series of them escaping 108 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:56.040 the predators over and over again, and finally at the 109 00:07:56.160 --> 00:08:00.000 end they encounter the King predator, not a queen alien, 110 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:04.279 but a king creditor. Oh very clever, Robert, and they 111 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:06.839 do it out to the end, so basically not at 112 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:09.360 all the movie we ended up seeing. 113 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:11.600 Well, I'm glad that you cleared that up because a 114 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:14.600 couple of things. One, all of the making of stuff 115 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.439 that I saw, Robert Rodriguez is all over it, but 116 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:20.720 he was not credited as a writer on this, which 117 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:22.720 I found a little I know he produced it. 118 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:24.639 But it was all I did too, And I thought, 119 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:26.600 if he had written the screenplay that this is based 120 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:28.199 off of, he's not going to take at least a 121 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:32.000 story by credit. And then I thought, Wow, he's really 122 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:33.320 magnanimous that he did that. 123 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.480 I don't I What he said in interviews that I 124 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.759 saw him in was that the movie that he wrote 125 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:44.720 was going to be far too expensive for the time, 126 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:45.679 and it sounds. 127 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:47.360 Like it's far too expensive for right now. 128 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:53.000 Clearly they took that the scenario as inspiration, but they 129 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:55.480 don't have an unlimited budget. But they made it work. 130 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:58.120 Like I said, the thing that hearkens back, there's so 131 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:00.039 much that hearkens back to the first movie. But the 132 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:02.240 biggest thing is that for the most part, this movie 133 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:06.399 takes place in a lush jungle, just like the first 134 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:09.360 Predator because I think they, like I said, I think 135 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.799 they watched the first Predator. They took all that they 136 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:16.679 could what worked from it, the direction, the setting, all 137 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:19.679 of this stuff, and they put it into this and 138 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:23.440 I have to say I was very happy to see that. 139 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:27.159 I understand a more jaundiced view could be its derivative. 140 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:31.960 It's maybe not the most original concept, but I really 141 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.320 liked it. What did you think of back to basics 142 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:36.200 for this particular movie you fought them alone? 143 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:37.919 Let me answer in a couple different ways. 144 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:39.840 First of all, I have to address the trailer that 145 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:42.720 we played earlier, because if you saw that trailer before 146 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:45.279 this movie, and then we're intrigued enough by that trailer 147 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:46.919 to go see that movie, you're probably going to be 148 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:49.720 at least a little bit pissed that they manipulated the 149 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:52.519 trailer and has a fake scene in it where I 150 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.120 saw that too. Adrian Brody gets the three dot laser 151 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.519 targeting on his head and then suddenly there are dozens 152 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:01.679 of them, as if there are going to be hundreds 153 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:05.240 of predators in store in this movie called Predators, just 154 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:08.720 like an Alien's which is this it's clearly aping it's 155 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:10.919 trying to make that connection for us that we're going 156 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:12.039 to get that sort of a thing. 157 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:12.840 Okay. 158 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.120 So I saw this movie at Man's Chinese Theater in 159 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:21.480 Los Angeles, and anytime I see a movie there, I 160 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:23.240 tend to like the movie just a little bit more 161 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:28.159 because it's Man's Chinese Cool. And I will say at 162 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:32.159 the time I did not like it all that I thought. 163 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:34.279 I felt it was too derivative. 164 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:38.960 Ultimately, I after Predator two, where we got to an 165 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.480 urban setting, I thought going to a jungle was a 166 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:43.320 step back. I don't care if we're on another planet, 167 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.600 just felt like a jungle, and ultimately. 168 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:47.159 I did not I was. 169 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:50.679 I felt really iffy about our elite and then I 170 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:52.720 think that is the last time I saw the film. 171 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:55.559 So I watched it a couple of times obviously leading 172 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:57.480 up to this, and turns out I liked the movie 173 00:10:57.480 --> 00:10:59.679 a whole lot more than I thought I did, And 174 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:03.799 that might be by comparison, again from just having watched 175 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:07.759 the entire run of films up until now that the 176 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:10.879 law of diminishing returns has been hitting us so fucking 177 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:14.159 hard that anything competent was going to be better than that. 178 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:18.159 But I do a lot of this movie. I like 179 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:19.879 more of this movie than I dislike. 180 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.360 How about that it's you know what, it's the best 181 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.399 Predator sequel, but it's still not great. 182 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:27.200 And it goes without saying, by the way, that this 183 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.679 was the first time that I've seen this movie. Pretty 184 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.399 much every movie from now I guess there's only one 185 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:36.960 more movie after this until Pray. I didn't see them 186 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.639 first run or even on cable or what have you. 187 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:42.799 So this was my first time seeing it. And I 188 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:48.799 may be recency bias after having slogged through Alien Versus 189 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:52.120 Predator and Requiem, but I knew of this movie. I 190 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.399 remember when it came out. I read the reviews, and 191 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.799 I didn't have a strong feeling about seeing it because 192 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:02.480 it was Agri Brody, who bugs me. I think he 193 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:06.039 bugs a lot of people. It just nothing about it 194 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:08.360 excited me to go to see it. Thought that the 195 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:12.960 franchise was still on the downswing, But again I was 196 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.559 pleasantly surprised by how much I really enjoyed this, and 197 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:21.080 not just in comparison Direcquiem. I think this is very 198 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:24.799 well crafted. It's solids, It brings back a lot of 199 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.519 what I loved about the Predator series and tries a 200 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.039 few things I'm not gonna It's not perfect, and I 201 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:34.480 think there's there are things they swing and miss, but overall, 202 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:37.240 I thought it was a big step in the right direction. 203 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:38.320 I agree. 204 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:41.679 Here's the thing, though, The thing that was the problem 205 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:46.000 for me then remains the problem now. Every time a 206 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:51.200 filmmaker comes along, rather anytime a film comes along, and 207 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:54.360 it's advertised to be like the worst of the worst, 208 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:58.600 and that this is the crew of the dregs of society, 209 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:03.639 the most lethal, morally free human beings, and they're just 210 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.159 not ever like, most of these characters are really decent. 211 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:11.600 The only one who seems outwardly fucked up is Walton Goggins, 212 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:14.720 and even he is played for laughs almost. 213 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.720 There's a moment where he's when I get home, I'm 214 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:19.879 gonna do so much cocaine. 215 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:22.559 Right, and it's a huge laugh line, followed by and 216 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.679 then I'm gonna rape a bunch of women and it 217 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:28.000 was like whoa, And like that moment where it was 218 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:30.919 like laughter and then a slap, I felt the movie 219 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:32.320 needed a lot more. 220 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:36.120 Of Yeah, it was. There was actual humor in this, 221 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:40.399 which I think was certainly missing from Requiem, But I 222 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:44.399 can't think of any laughs in Alien versus Predator either, 223 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:48.320 So that alone is there are there is humor in 224 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.720 the very first Predator if you remember people astute listeners 225 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:55.559 of the podcast will remember, Jesse Ventura had some great lines. 226 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:59.559 Bill Duke is funny and weird, and it's it's a 227 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:02.080 more well rounded movie. But this had a little more 228 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:02.360 of that. 229 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:05.279 What about Shane Black's hilarious pussy jokes. 230 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:08.519 I didn't mind them so much because he's so good 231 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:11.080 at selling how bad they are. I don't know. I 232 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.159 just thought that I thought was funny, but in this 233 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:15.519 one it But by the way, let me I want 234 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:18.240 to mention one thing you talked about the director Nimrod 235 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.200 until I have to say I didn't. I couldn't think 236 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:23.120 of what he had actually done. But it turns out 237 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:27.799 he's actually directed one of my top five favorite concert 238 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:29.279 movies of all time. I don't know if you were 239 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:34.039 aware of this, father alone, but he directed that. Yes, 240 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.240 it's Metallica through the Never I know you're gonna You're 241 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:38.840 not getting me help me. 242 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:42.519 I'm sucked into this. Wariotis Dystopia. 243 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:48.360 Put all that aside, just the actual concert movie part 244 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:50.960 of it was. I saw that it was a limited 245 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.000 engagement in Imax for a week, and I went after 246 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:55.720 work one night and went to see it, and it 247 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:58.320 was in three D. It was maybe the second movie 248 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.720 I'd seen in three D and imax. And the actual 249 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:06.279 concert portions were as good as any live show that 250 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:09.519 I've ever actually seen any live concert performance. At the 251 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:11.480 end of some of those songs, I'm in the middle 252 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.480 of a theater all by myself. I wanted to sit 253 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:17.399 there and cheer. It was so well directed. The concert stuff, 254 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:19.960 which is not easy to do. You can't just anyone 255 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:22.039 can point out a camera out a bunch of people 256 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:25.600 performing on stage, but it's very creatively performed. The three 257 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:29.679 D was well integrated. That got me excited actually to 258 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:33.600 see this because I figured this guy actually has an eye. Unfortunately, 259 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:35.919 I'm not familiar with any of his other work. I 260 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.159 might decide to look it up based on this, because 261 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:39.559 I thought it was very well shot. 262 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:42.720 He did a movie called Vacancy, which was part of 263 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:46.320 that sort of Platinum Dunes wave of films. I don't 264 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.519 know that was necessarily a Platinum Douns film, but in 265 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:51.120 that era when they were remaking like the Hitcher and 266 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:53.039 the early two thousands. 267 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:55.000 Oh Texas chainsaw massacre and all. 268 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:58.399 That, Yes, where suddenly white trash people can't be trusted again, 269 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:01.399 and so Vacancy is like a couple. I think it's 270 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:05.600 Kate Beckhamsale and Owen not Owen Wilson, Luke Wilson. I think, 271 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:07.960 stop at the CD motel in the middle of nowhere 272 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:10.320 and they discover that there are cameras in their room. 273 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:12.759 And Frank Wally is in there like being a creep. 274 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:15.919 And the main thing I remember about the movie is 275 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:18.679 that I was I was working at a movie theater 276 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:21.000 at the time, and we got a standy, a cardboard 277 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:25.519 standy for vacancy, which was shaped like the motel, and 278 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.559 it had an array of lights inside so that the 279 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.679 neon signed the vacancy sign would be blinking on and 280 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:35.080 off but really atmospherically. And I took that whole fucking 281 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:35.720 thing home with me. 282 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:38.080 You just set up the standy at all? 283 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:39.559 Yeah, I just put it in my living room. 284 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:41.759 I had this oh no, actually put it outside on 285 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:43.559 the other side of the yard, so it looked like 286 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:44.879 there was a motel in the backyard. 287 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:47.559 It was really fun. Nice thanks name Rod. 288 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:51.200 That's but he was the man has some talent. I 289 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:53.840 have to admit. Like I said, it was shot well 290 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:55.159 and directed pretty well. 291 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:56.480 I agree. 292 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.080 I think some of it is not directed so well. 293 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.679 I think maybe it's just hard to fight a sword fight. 294 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:04.680 But I found this one to be really lacking. In fact, 295 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:08.160 a lot of the action I found to be really lacking. 296 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:11.519 Particularly the final act of the film I found to 297 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:13.200 be just sad. 298 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.319 You mean, when he's facing off against the predator, he 299 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.720 set a trap. I can see where you're coming there. 300 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:22.359 It was a little bit herky jerky editing. I could 301 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.920 see that in the battle. I think you're referring to 302 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:28.319 the Yakuza sword fight battle, like they face off the 303 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:31.400 duel that I thought was cool. The overhead stuff I thought. 304 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:32.039 Rights for that. 305 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:35.039 The overhead stuff is beautiful because they're standing in knee 306 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:38.160 high grass and it's all undulating underneath them. So it's 307 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:42.880 gorgeous because nimrod Amtal makes gorgeous pictures. But I'm saying 308 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:46.480 the actual action was lacking. There's a fight between two 309 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:48.880 predators at one point in the film, which we've never 310 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:49.599 seen before. 311 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.000 By the way, have we ever seen predators fight each other? 312 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:52.440 Never? 313 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:56.720 And it's just it felt like watching a Gounzilla movie 314 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.759 just two rubber suited idiots hitting each other, and that 315 00:17:59.920 --> 00:18:00.359 was you just. 316 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:04.559 Hit upon another one of the excuse me, the innovations 317 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.720 in this movie. They he they introduced the concept of 318 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:13.240 like warring factions of Yaoucha. There's like a higher I 319 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:15.599 don't think you call him casts, but there's a group 320 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:20.960 of a bigger, fiercer Yaucha's that have taken a fourth 321 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:25.000 Yaoucha prisoner and they have him crucified or tied to 322 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:28.839 this totem in their camp. And he I think he's 323 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:32.279 supposed to be a throwback to the first Predator in 324 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:35.240 the first movie. He looks like the original Predator. 325 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:39.119 But that is that's the character's name, Original. 326 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:43.400 Predator, original Predator, original formula. So that was cool. They 327 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:47.000 have it's adding some shading to the Predator society. I 328 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:49.640 thought that was neat. Should we talk about I don't 329 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:51.759 think we've talked about each of the characters and what 330 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:54.480 they their backstory, which I thought was cool. 331 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:56.079 No, but we will, but I want to keep talking 332 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.319 about these Predators for a second because okay, speaking of innovation, now, look, 333 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.880 God bless Tom Woodriffe and Alec Gillis, the guys who 334 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:07.599 were Stan Winston's crew went off and made their own company, 335 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:10.400 and they basically did all of the They worked on 336 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:14.319 Aliens and the original Predator and Predator Too, and Aliens 337 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:18.160 Versus Predator both movies, and yes, they've done fantastic work 338 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:20.880 all the time. These Predators are better. These are the 339 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:23.839 best Predators since the original Predator movie. I agree, even 340 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:26.680 the second Predator movie seems stiff compared to these guys. 341 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:31.240 They are live and sporty and functional. I never doubted 342 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:33.079 that these were agile creatures. 343 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:35.839 Yeah, this all K and B came in and did 344 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:37.720 all of this work. I think they did it in 345 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:40.200 a remarkably short amount of time from the making of 346 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:42.839 stuff I saw. I think they only had something like 347 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:47.440 ten weeks from original concept to first day of shooting 348 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:50.119 to get these predators. This was all done. This is 349 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:55.039 all part of Robert Rodriguez's Troublemaker Studios, since he produced it. 350 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:57.839 A lot of it was shot on location in Hawaii, 351 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:00.440 some of it was shot on location in all but 352 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.279 a lot of it, including the Predator camp, was all 353 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:08.200 shot at his local Austin studio, and the costuming and 354 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:09.880 all the effects work was done. Like I said by 355 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:13.440 K and B, and it's really well done. These predators 356 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:17.359 have personality, which is something that was really lacking from 357 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:20.880 the last few movies. There's one who is a falconer 358 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:22.440 and he has this. 359 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:26.519 That's played by wife what that's played by Will Forte, 360 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:30.160 Not the Will Forte, the Will Forte, the falconer. 361 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:34.119 Okay, the snl Okay, Sorry took me a second, I'm 362 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:36.480 a little slow on the uptake tonight. And he has 363 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:40.480 this drone, this falcon like metal drone that can scout. 364 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:45.440 There's one who commands a pack of like predator dogs, 365 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:47.799 I don't know what you call them, but hunting dogs 366 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:52.119 basically that he sends out to flush out these this prey, 367 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:55.279 these people getting hunted. And then there's the last one. 368 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:58.960 I think he's called the Berserker, and his defining feature 369 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:01.480 not only the fact that he's big and he's scary looking, 370 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:04.599 but he has is it supposed to be an alien 371 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:08.200 mandible like fastened to the bottom part of his mask. 372 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:11.480 That's exactly it. He's taken like a native tribe. 373 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.599 He has taken the jawbone of a fierce creature and 374 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:17.160 fastened that to his own face plate. 375 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:20.880 Yeah, they look great, It doesn't read to me like 376 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:26.000 very latexy. There's interest, there's detail in all the costumes, 377 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:28.920 and they really, like I said, they have personality. So 378 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:33.759 you're not just seeing some predator like shape kicking ass. 379 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.720 You can tell who they are and what their speciality is. 380 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:39.960 Let's keep talking these designs here, because those dogs you mentioned, 381 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:43.880 the Predator dogs, they're wolf pack there. Like you said, 382 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:47.079 they're like a fox in the hound, like a fox hunt. 383 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:50.480 Send out the hounds and out these creatures come. Now, 384 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:54.039 I kept reading about how the directive when they were 385 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:58.680 making this film was ignore everything but Predator. Ignore everything 386 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:02.079 but the first Predator movie. It's our only guide except 387 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:05.359 of course. The dog design is based on a skull 388 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:06.839 from the Predatorship from Part two. 389 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:08.599 It's one of the skulls in the case. 390 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:13.119 Now, having now having said that, they're great, they're really 391 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:17.039 well realized. These not ever there on the set dogs. 392 00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:20.279 I'm sure they had rubber ones to have on the set. 393 00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:22.799 In fact, I know they do because I follow Robert 394 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.519 Rodriguez's daughter on Instagram and she's constantly showing shit around 395 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:28.240 their studio like, oh look a Predator dog. 396 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:32.680 Imagine growing up in that that would be something. 397 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:33.680 I can only imagine. 398 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.039 Man it's like the biggest playground in the world, but 399 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:40.680 we have the predator, the predator dogs. It's a cool innovation. 400 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:44.240 The Jerome thing is cooled. Even the predator heat vision. 401 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:48.160