Speaker 1: Mhm, weird way.
Speaker 2: We can kill a.
Speaker 3: Good time. Shut up?
Speaker 4: What the hell are you?
Speaker 5: Welcome back to YOCHI fist. This is my bad as
Speaker 5: Father Malone voice, So for the rest of the evening
Speaker 5: you're gonna think, Oh man, Father Malone, he's a real betass.
Speaker 5: Welcome back to Yeah that hurts.
Speaker 2: Let's gonna get old real quick.
Speaker 5: Oh got real old in the throat real quick.
Speaker 6: Well, welcome back to Yahoo Ja Fest, where we are
Speaker 6: discussing the Predator films in order chronologically speaking, and as
Speaker 6: always with me to discuss it as mister HP, host
Speaker 6: of Noise Junkies and Night, mister Walters, How are you HP?
Speaker 2: I'm fantastic. I'm so pumped to get into this. After
Speaker 2: the debacle that was Alien Versus Predator requiem, I was
Speaker 2: ready for a palate cleanser and this was the perfect
Speaker 2: palate cleanser, Father Malone.
Speaker 5: And what are we talking about? Predators? Here's the trailer.
Speaker 4: What's the last thing you remembered? All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: there was a lightn and then I was pauling, who
Speaker 4: are here?
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be executed two days ago.
Speaker 4: And I was in combat. So was that Black ops.
Speaker 3: Will do this us.
Speaker 4: We were chosen just a for what.
Speaker 3: I brought it for the same purpose.
Speaker 4: Being hunted.
Speaker 2: This planet is a game.
Speaker 1: Preserve where the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how don't we kill them?
Speaker 4: However you can.
Speaker 6: Predators released on July ninth, twenty ten, directed by Nimrod Antal,
Speaker 6: written by Alex Litvak and Michael Finch, based on characters
Speaker 6: by Jim and John Thomas.
Speaker 5: Darring Adrian Brody.
Speaker 6: I just want to say, Christopher Grace Toafer Grace, Alice Braga,
Speaker 6: Walton Goggins, Olig oh Man, this one Oleg Taktarov, Okay,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do it again now, Olig Taktaroff, Lawrence Fishburne,
Speaker 6: Danny Freyhill, Mike got It goes on and on, mar
Speaker 6: Herschela Ali, Louis Zaala.
Speaker 5: I'm naming everybody in the fucking cast. You know what.
Speaker 6: Here are the Predators Carrie Jones, Brian Steele and Derek Meers.
Speaker 6: That's pretty much everybody, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a sprawling cast, but a little look ahead.
Speaker 2: It didn't like we've had sprawling casts in the past.
Speaker 2: Couple of movies we reviewed, Father blahlone, but this one
Speaker 2: didn't feel sprawling because everyone, all the characters were delineated
Speaker 2: really well. You didn't spend too much time in any
Speaker 2: one character. It was It's a lot of characters to
Speaker 2: keep track of, but somehow it was easier than the
Speaker 2: past two movies put together.
Speaker 6: You think the characters in this particular plot made more sense.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. So the plot for this movie is,
Speaker 2: basically is it seven seven disparate characters end up on
Speaker 2: a mysterious planet. Let's say it's not Earth spoiler alert.
Speaker 2: They don't know how they got there. They just literally
Speaker 2: dropped from the sky in parachutes. They're all from all
Speaker 2: different walks of life.
Speaker 6: They're from all different military backgrounds.
Speaker 2: Fair point, fair point, they're all. The thing that links them,
Speaker 2: it seems, is they're all murder killers. They're murderers. Adrian
Speaker 2: Brodie's characterism is a mercenary.
Speaker 5: Some might say they're all predator.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's the double meaning of the title. So
Speaker 2: they're all dropped onto this planet, literally dropped on this planet,
Speaker 2: and they have to figure out why they're there. And
Speaker 2: through the course of the movie, they obviously figure out
Speaker 2: that they're there because they're being hunted by our favorite youches.
Speaker 2: In this case, three of them are out to kill them.
Speaker 2: It is essentially a game preserve, as Adrian Brodie's character
Speaker 2: says at one point, it's a game preserve and they're
Speaker 2: the game. So the movie becomes a They're very indebted.
Speaker 2: They make no bones about the fact that they're indebted
Speaker 2: to the first Predator movie. I think after AVP and
Speaker 2: AVP Requiem, they realized that they needed to reboot and
Speaker 2: readjust where the series was going. So they took that
Speaker 2: as they're in spree.
Speaker 5: Okay, that is the plot for this movie. Now.
Speaker 6: Legendarily, this was produced by Robert Rodriguez, and the lore was,
Speaker 6: and what we had heard about for a decade or
Speaker 6: two before this film, or decade and a half anyway,
Speaker 6: was that at one point Robert Rodriguez had been hired
Speaker 6: to make a direct sequel to Predator and Predator two,
Speaker 6: and that was Predators. He was hired to write a
Speaker 6: screenplay in nineteen ninety six thereabouts.
Speaker 5: It was when he was doing Desperado, so.
Speaker 6: He wrote the script, and what we've heard is that
Speaker 6: they didn't move on it. Then they ended up going
Speaker 6: with other properties, and then after AVP Requiem eight shit,
Speaker 6: they wanted to reinvigorate it, so they recontacted Robert Rodriguez.
Speaker 6: He had that script rewritten, and that's the movie we got.
Speaker 5: Have you read Robert Rodriguez's draft of the screen?
Speaker 6: No, if not, I have, And let me tell you
Speaker 6: other than the fact that there's a game preserve and
Speaker 6: at one point there is a predator who is tied
Speaker 6: up as a prisoner that becomes an ally. Very little remains.
Speaker 6: For instance, it takes place on a distant planet. Okay,
Speaker 6: that's similar. It takes place in the future, and the
Speaker 6: lead character is Dutch Oh Schwarzenegger on another planet on
Speaker 6: a Spanish Gallean pirate ship because he has deserted the
Speaker 6: regular army, at which point the regular army shows up
Speaker 6: and boards their pirate ship and they're all dressed like predators,
Speaker 6: these humans, because what we come to find out, it's
Speaker 6: a prison movie. First of all, it's the shipping Dutch
Speaker 6: off to prison, and then they end up getting overrun
Speaker 6: by predators, and then it's a series of them escaping
Speaker 6: the predators over and over again, and finally at the
Speaker 6: end they encounter the King predator, not a queen alien,
Speaker 6: but a king creditor. Oh very clever, Robert, and they
Speaker 6: do it out to the end, so basically not at
Speaker 6: all the movie we ended up seeing.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you cleared that up because a
Speaker 2: couple of things. One, all of the making of stuff
Speaker 2: that I saw, Robert Rodriguez is all over it, but
Speaker 2: he was not credited as a writer on this, which
Speaker 2: I found a little I know he produced it.
Speaker 6: But it was all I did too, And I thought,
Speaker 6: if he had written the screenplay that this is based
Speaker 6: off of, he's not going to take at least a
Speaker 6: story by credit. And then I thought, Wow, he's really
Speaker 6: magnanimous that he did that.
Speaker 2: I don't I What he said in interviews that I
Speaker 2: saw him in was that the movie that he wrote
Speaker 2: was going to be far too expensive for the time,
Speaker 2: and it sounds.
Speaker 5: Like it's far too expensive for right now.
Speaker 2: Clearly they took that the scenario as inspiration, but they
Speaker 2: don't have an unlimited budget. But they made it work.
Speaker 2: Like I said, the thing that hearkens back, there's so
Speaker 2: much that hearkens back to the first movie. But the
Speaker 2: biggest thing is that for the most part, this movie
Speaker 2: takes place in a lush jungle, just like the first
Speaker 2: Predator because I think they, like I said, I think
Speaker 2: they watched the first Predator. They took all that they
Speaker 2: could what worked from it, the direction, the setting, all
Speaker 2: of this stuff, and they put it into this and
Speaker 2: I have to say I was very happy to see that.
Speaker 2: I understand a more jaundiced view could be its derivative.
Speaker 2: It's maybe not the most original concept, but I really
Speaker 2: liked it. What did you think of back to basics
Speaker 2: for this particular movie you fought them alone?
Speaker 5: Let me answer in a couple different ways.
Speaker 6: First of all, I have to address the trailer that
Speaker 6: we played earlier, because if you saw that trailer before
Speaker 6: this movie, and then we're intrigued enough by that trailer
Speaker 6: to go see that movie, you're probably going to be
Speaker 6: at least a little bit pissed that they manipulated the
Speaker 6: trailer and has a fake scene in it where I
Speaker 6: saw that too. Adrian Brody gets the three dot laser
Speaker 6: targeting on his head and then suddenly there are dozens
Speaker 6: of them, as if there are going to be hundreds
Speaker 6: of predators in store in this movie called Predators, just
Speaker 6: like an Alien's which is this it's clearly aping it's
Speaker 6: trying to make that connection for us that we're going
Speaker 6: to get that sort of a thing.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: So I saw this movie at Man's Chinese Theater in
Speaker 6: Los Angeles, and anytime I see a movie there, I
Speaker 6: tend to like the movie just a little bit more
Speaker 6: because it's Man's Chinese Cool. And I will say at
Speaker 6: the time I did not like it all that I thought.
Speaker 5: I felt it was too derivative.
Speaker 6: Ultimately, I after Predator two, where we got to an
Speaker 6: urban setting, I thought going to a jungle was a
Speaker 6: step back. I don't care if we're on another planet,
Speaker 6: just felt like a jungle, and ultimately.
Speaker 5: I did not I was.
Speaker 6: I felt really iffy about our elite and then I
Speaker 6: think that is the last time I saw the film.
Speaker 6: So I watched it a couple of times obviously leading
Speaker 6: up to this, and turns out I liked the movie
Speaker 6: a whole lot more than I thought I did, And
Speaker 6: that might be by comparison, again from just having watched
Speaker 6: the entire run of films up until now that the
Speaker 6: law of diminishing returns has been hitting us so fucking
Speaker 6: hard that anything competent was going to be better than that.
Speaker 5: But I do a lot of this movie. I like
Speaker 5: more of this movie than I dislike.
Speaker 6: How about that it's you know what, it's the best
Speaker 6: Predator sequel, but it's still not great.
Speaker 2: And it goes without saying, by the way, that this
Speaker 2: was the first time that I've seen this movie. Pretty
Speaker 2: much every movie from now I guess there's only one
Speaker 2: more movie after this until Pray. I didn't see them
Speaker 2: first run or even on cable or what have you.
Speaker 2: So this was my first time seeing it. And I
Speaker 2: may be recency bias after having slogged through Alien Versus
Speaker 2: Predator and Requiem, but I knew of this movie. I
Speaker 2: remember when it came out. I read the reviews, and
Speaker 2: I didn't have a strong feeling about seeing it because
Speaker 2: it was Agri Brody, who bugs me. I think he
Speaker 2: bugs a lot of people. It just nothing about it
Speaker 2: excited me to go to see it. Thought that the
Speaker 2: franchise was still on the downswing, But again I was
Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised by how much I really enjoyed this, and
Speaker 2: not just in comparison Direcquiem. I think this is very
Speaker 2: well crafted. It's solids, It brings back a lot of
Speaker 2: what I loved about the Predator series and tries a
Speaker 2: few things I'm not gonna It's not perfect, and I
Speaker 2: think there's there are things they swing and miss, but overall,
Speaker 2: I thought it was a big step in the right direction.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing, though, The thing that was the problem
Speaker 6: for me then remains the problem now. Every time a
Speaker 6: filmmaker comes along, rather anytime a film comes along, and
Speaker 6: it's advertised to be like the worst of the worst,
Speaker 6: and that this is the crew of the dregs of society,
Speaker 6: the most lethal, morally free human beings, and they're just
Speaker 6: not ever like, most of these characters are really decent.
Speaker 6: The only one who seems outwardly fucked up is Walton Goggins,
Speaker 6: and even he is played for laughs almost.
Speaker 5: There's a moment where he's when I get home, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna do so much cocaine.
Speaker 6: Right, and it's a huge laugh line, followed by and
Speaker 6: then I'm gonna rape a bunch of women and it
Speaker 6: was like whoa, And like that moment where it was
Speaker 6: like laughter and then a slap, I felt the movie
Speaker 6: needed a lot more.
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, it was. There was actual humor in this,
Speaker 2: which I think was certainly missing from Requiem, But I
Speaker 2: can't think of any laughs in Alien versus Predator either,
Speaker 2: So that alone is there are there is humor in
Speaker 2: the very first Predator if you remember people astute listeners
Speaker 2: of the podcast will remember, Jesse Ventura had some great lines.
Speaker 2: Bill Duke is funny and weird, and it's it's a
Speaker 2: more well rounded movie. But this had a little more
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 5: What about Shane Black's hilarious pussy jokes.
Speaker 2: I didn't mind them so much because he's so good
Speaker 2: at selling how bad they are. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just thought that I thought was funny, but in this
Speaker 2: one it But by the way, let me I want
Speaker 2: to mention one thing you talked about the director Nimrod
Speaker 2: until I have to say I didn't. I couldn't think
Speaker 2: of what he had actually done. But it turns out
Speaker 2: he's actually directed one of my top five favorite concert
Speaker 2: movies of all time. I don't know if you were
Speaker 2: aware of this, father alone, but he directed that. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's Metallica through the Never I know you're gonna You're
Speaker 2: not getting me help me.
Speaker 6: I'm sucked into this. Wariotis Dystopia.
Speaker 2: Put all that aside, just the actual concert movie part
Speaker 2: of it was. I saw that it was a limited
Speaker 2: engagement in Imax for a week, and I went after
Speaker 2: work one night and went to see it, and it
Speaker 2: was in three D. It was maybe the second movie
Speaker 2: I'd seen in three D and imax. And the actual
Speaker 2: concert portions were as good as any live show that
Speaker 2: I've ever actually seen any live concert performance. At the
Speaker 2: end of some of those songs, I'm in the middle
Speaker 2: of a theater all by myself. I wanted to sit
Speaker 2: there and cheer. It was so well directed. The concert stuff,
Speaker 2: which is not easy to do. You can't just anyone
Speaker 2: can point out a camera out a bunch of people
Speaker 2: performing on stage, but it's very creatively performed. The three
Speaker 2: D was well integrated. That got me excited actually to
Speaker 2: see this because I figured this guy actually has an eye. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with any of his other work. I
Speaker 2: might decide to look it up based on this, because
Speaker 2: I thought it was very well shot.
Speaker 6: He did a movie called Vacancy, which was part of
Speaker 6: that sort of Platinum Dunes wave of films. I don't
Speaker 6: know that was necessarily a Platinum Douns film, but in
Speaker 6: that era when they were remaking like the Hitcher and
Speaker 6: the early two thousands.
Speaker 2: Oh Texas chainsaw massacre and all.
Speaker 6: That, Yes, where suddenly white trash people can't be trusted again,
Speaker 6: and so Vacancy is like a couple. I think it's
Speaker 6: Kate Beckhamsale and Owen not Owen Wilson, Luke Wilson. I think,
Speaker 6: stop at the CD motel in the middle of nowhere
Speaker 6: and they discover that there are cameras in their room.
Speaker 5: And Frank Wally is in there like being a creep.
Speaker 6: And the main thing I remember about the movie is
Speaker 6: that I was I was working at a movie theater
Speaker 6: at the time, and we got a standy, a cardboard
Speaker 6: standy for vacancy, which was shaped like the motel, and
Speaker 6: it had an array of lights inside so that the
Speaker 6: neon signed the vacancy sign would be blinking on and
Speaker 6: off but really atmospherically. And I took that whole fucking
Speaker 6: thing home with me.
Speaker 2: You just set up the standy at all?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just put it in my living room.
Speaker 6: I had this oh no, actually put it outside on
Speaker 6: the other side of the yard, so it looked like
Speaker 6: there was a motel in the backyard.
Speaker 5: It was really fun. Nice thanks name Rod.
Speaker 2: That's but he was the man has some talent. I
Speaker 2: have to admit. Like I said, it was shot well
Speaker 2: and directed pretty well.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 6: I think some of it is not directed so well.
Speaker 6: I think maybe it's just hard to fight a sword fight.
Speaker 6: But I found this one to be really lacking. In fact,
Speaker 6: a lot of the action I found to be really lacking.
Speaker 6: Particularly the final act of the film I found to
Speaker 6: be just sad.
Speaker 2: You mean, when he's facing off against the predator, he
Speaker 2: set a trap. I can see where you're coming there.
Speaker 2: It was a little bit herky jerky editing. I could
Speaker 2: see that in the battle. I think you're referring to
Speaker 2: the Yakuza sword fight battle, like they face off the
Speaker 2: duel that I thought was cool. The overhead stuff I thought.
Speaker 5: Rights for that.
Speaker 6: The overhead stuff is beautiful because they're standing in knee
Speaker 6: high grass and it's all undulating underneath them. So it's
Speaker 6: gorgeous because nimrod Amtal makes gorgeous pictures. But I'm saying
Speaker 6: the actual action was lacking. There's a fight between two
Speaker 6: predators at one point in the film, which we've never
Speaker 6: seen before.
Speaker 5: By the way, have we ever seen predators fight each other?
Speaker 1: Never?
Speaker 6: And it's just it felt like watching a Gounzilla movie
Speaker 6: just two rubber suited idiots hitting each other, and that
Speaker 6: was you just.
Speaker 2: Hit upon another one of the excuse me, the innovations
Speaker 2: in this movie. They he they introduced the concept of
Speaker 2: like warring factions of Yaoucha. There's like a higher I
Speaker 2: don't think you call him casts, but there's a group
Speaker 2: of a bigger, fiercer Yaucha's that have taken a fourth
Speaker 2: Yaoucha prisoner and they have him crucified or tied to
Speaker 2: this totem in their camp. And he I think he's
Speaker 2: supposed to be a throwback to the first Predator in
Speaker 2: the first movie. He looks like the original Predator.
Speaker 5: But that is that's the character's name, Original.
Speaker 2: Predator, original Predator, original formula. So that was cool. They
Speaker 2: have it's adding some shading to the Predator society. I
Speaker 2: thought that was neat. Should we talk about I don't
Speaker 2: think we've talked about each of the characters and what
Speaker 2: they their backstory, which I thought was cool.
Speaker 6: No, but we will, but I want to keep talking
Speaker 6: about these Predators for a second because okay, speaking of innovation, now, look,
Speaker 6: God bless Tom Woodriffe and Alec Gillis, the guys who
Speaker 6: were Stan Winston's crew went off and made their own company,
Speaker 6: and they basically did all of the They worked on
Speaker 6: Aliens and the original Predator and Predator Too, and Aliens
Speaker 6: Versus Predator both movies, and yes, they've done fantastic work
Speaker 6: all the time. These Predators are better. These are the
Speaker 6: best Predators since the original Predator movie. I agree, even
Speaker 6: the second Predator movie seems stiff compared to these guys.
Speaker 6: They are live and sporty and functional. I never doubted
Speaker 6: that these were agile creatures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this all K and B came in and did
Speaker 2: all of this work. I think they did it in
Speaker 2: a remarkably short amount of time from the making of
Speaker 2: stuff I saw. I think they only had something like
Speaker 2: ten weeks from original concept to first day of shooting
Speaker 2: to get these predators. This was all done. This is
Speaker 2: all part of Robert Rodriguez's Troublemaker Studios, since he produced it.
Speaker 2: A lot of it was shot on location in Hawaii,
Speaker 2: some of it was shot on location in all but
Speaker 2: a lot of it, including the Predator camp, was all
Speaker 2: shot at his local Austin studio, and the costuming and
Speaker 2: all the effects work was done. Like I said by
Speaker 2: K and B, and it's really well done. These predators
Speaker 2: have personality, which is something that was really lacking from
Speaker 2: the last few movies. There's one who is a falconer
Speaker 2: and he has this.
Speaker 6: That's played by wife what that's played by Will Forte,
Speaker 6: Not the Will Forte, the Will Forte, the falconer.
Speaker 2: Okay, the snl Okay, Sorry took me a second, I'm
Speaker 2: a little slow on the uptake tonight. And he has
Speaker 2: this drone, this falcon like metal drone that can scout.
Speaker 2: There's one who commands a pack of like predator dogs,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you call them, but hunting dogs
Speaker 2: basically that he sends out to flush out these this prey,
Speaker 2: these people getting hunted. And then there's the last one.
Speaker 2: I think he's called the Berserker, and his defining feature
Speaker 2: not only the fact that he's big and he's scary looking,
Speaker 2: but he has is it supposed to be an alien
Speaker 2: mandible like fastened to the bottom part of his mask.
Speaker 5: That's exactly it. He's taken like a native tribe.
Speaker 6: He has taken the jawbone of a fierce creature and
Speaker 6: fastened that to his own face plate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they look great, It doesn't read to me like
Speaker 2: very latexy. There's interest, there's detail in all the costumes,
Speaker 2: and they really, like I said, they have personality. So
Speaker 2: you're not just seeing some predator like shape kicking ass.
Speaker 2: You can tell who they are and what their speciality is.
Speaker 6: Let's keep talking these designs here, because those dogs you mentioned,
Speaker 6: the Predator dogs, they're wolf pack there. Like you said,
Speaker 6: they're like a fox in the hound, like a fox hunt.
Speaker 6: Send out the hounds and out these creatures come. Now,
Speaker 6: I kept reading about how the directive when they were
Speaker 6: making this film was ignore everything but Predator. Ignore everything
Speaker 6: but the first Predator movie. It's our only guide except
Speaker 6: of course. The dog design is based on a skull
Speaker 6: from the Predatorship from Part two.
Speaker 5: It's one of the skulls in the case.
Speaker 6: Now, having now having said that, they're great, they're really
Speaker 6: well realized. These not ever there on the set dogs.
Speaker 6: I'm sure they had rubber ones to have on the set.
Speaker 6: In fact, I know they do because I follow Robert
Speaker 6: Rodriguez's daughter on Instagram and she's constantly showing shit around
Speaker 6: their studio like, oh look a Predator dog.
Speaker 2: Imagine growing up in that that would be something.
Speaker 5: I can only imagine.
Speaker 2: Man it's like the biggest playground in the world, but
Speaker 2: we have the predator, the predator dogs. It's a cool innovation.
Speaker 2: The Jerome thing is cooled. Even the predator heat vision.
Speaker 2: The infrared vision is tweaked now like in the first
Speaker 2: few movies, it's just a lot of amorphous blobs you
Speaker 2: can make out, but there's a little more fidelity to
Speaker 2: them now. Where there's a scene, for example, where Maherschel
Speaker 2: Ali's character is doing what what's his name, Billy in
Speaker 2: the first that's his name from forty Hours. I'm mixing
Speaker 2: it up Sonny Latham's character in the first movie where
Speaker 2: he can tell the predators out there anyway, Marsha la
Speaker 2: Ali can detect them, and you cut to the infrared vision,
Speaker 2: you can actually see detail in his face which they
Speaker 2: didn't have before. I thought it was like a It
Speaker 2: bumped up the fidelity in a lot of ways. The
Speaker 2: detail of the predators, their weapons, their abilities, everything seemed damped.
Speaker 6: Up a little bit, as they should. Predator vision is
Speaker 6: based on a film from nineteen eighty seven. Everybody at
Speaker 6: this point was thirty years later. Of course, they should
Speaker 6: be updating that what their vision looks. And I like
Speaker 6: that they can cycle through their different visions now, like
Speaker 6: we're getting more of At one point they're checking like footprints.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And at one point they're searching for other
Speaker 2: people and or the creatures, and you can see them
Speaker 2: like zeroing in on something and focusing in and switching
Speaker 2: the vision. It's worth there's no words, but you can
Speaker 2: tell what's going through the predator's mind as he's searching
Speaker 2: for their prey. It was really cool.
Speaker 6: All right, last creature and then we'll get to the cast. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: these people are find themselves parachute. They're basically awake in
Speaker 6: the air, falling to what they think is Earth, but
Speaker 6: it's this other planet and they've got parachutes on that
Speaker 6: are automatically set to go off and lower them, and
Speaker 6: that doesn't always work out for all of them.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's hard, by the way. That's horrifying, by
Speaker 2: the way, because after the main characters start to land,
Speaker 2: another guy who wasn't so lucky parachute doesn't open. He
Speaker 2: dies right in front of them. But that's a that's
Speaker 2: nightmare material. Like we've all had dreams like this where
Speaker 2: you're falling and you don't know what's imagine waking up
Speaker 2: from and you're thirty thirty thousand feet up in the
Speaker 2: air and you don't know how to deploy a parachute.
Speaker 2: The fact that they can't make this process of deploying
Speaker 2: the parachute foolproof the predators, you're just playthings for them.
Speaker 2: They Oh, if somebody dies in transit or whatever, I
Speaker 2: guess there's seven other guys we can hunt that I found. Like,
Speaker 2: when you think about it, that's horrifying. Sorry, go ahead, No,
Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. It's yeah, what a way to wake
Speaker 2: Just falling through the clouds. And most of these characters
Speaker 2: tell their stories that they were.
Speaker 6: Like involved in combat and then suddenly there was a
Speaker 6: light and now I'm falling through the sky. But they're
Speaker 6: not the only things falling through the sky because what
Speaker 6: they discover are crates. Now, initially I had thought that
Speaker 6: those crates, not really remembering the film as it were,
Speaker 6: I thought the crates held the dogs. But that's not
Speaker 6: the case because at one point Walton Goggin's character is
Speaker 6: being chased by what we think is a predator and
Speaker 6: it turns out to be the initial design.
Speaker 5: For the predator from the original Predator movie, The.
Speaker 6: Original character that Jean Claude van Dam was supposed to play,
Speaker 6: has a cameo in this film. It's one of the
Speaker 6: beasts from the cages, which mean though all of those
Speaker 6: cages held other creatures. And here's my main problem with
Speaker 6: the movie. Where are the other creatures? We're on an
Speaker 6: alien world, not only alien creatures. Where's the bizarre flora
Speaker 6: and fauna. We see one plant that acts a bit odd.
Speaker 6: Everything else feels like they're in I don't know, Hawaii.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. That was one of the
Speaker 2: cooler parts because it gives you this glimpse of a
Speaker 2: larger thing at work here where they're not just plucking
Speaker 2: people from Earth to hunt. They're plucking people from god
Speaker 2: knows how many planets, the weird creatures that we've never
Speaker 2: seen before. So yeah, I would agree with you there
Speaker 2: that this planet should have been much more put it
Speaker 2: this way. It should have been better stocked with game
Speaker 2: than we see, because there's stretches of this movie where
Speaker 2: they're doing nothing but walking and marching and talking, which
Speaker 2: it's good from a character development perspective, but from an
Speaker 2: action perspective, it does leave a little bit to be desired.
Speaker 6: I mentioned that the original Predator who is when we
Speaker 6: meet him here in the film, he's basically just chained
Speaker 6: up in the middle of their camp. In the original
Speaker 6: Robert Rodriguez screenplay, they find him chained up, but he's
Speaker 6: not chained up, he's crucified. In fact, he's crucified on
Speaker 6: an X, which means Robert Rodriguez was channeling Frank Frazetta
Speaker 6: because he has a painting of an alien crew. It's
Speaker 6: called alien crucifixion, where an alien with four arms is
Speaker 6: crucified to an ex wooden cross. So that got me thinking,
Speaker 6: if they had made this more of this Frank Frazetta
Speaker 6: type bizarre world, we could have had predators hunting humans
Speaker 6: while being hunted themselves by giant beasts. I know that
Speaker 6: I'm starting to make the budget really big, but maybe
Speaker 6: lose a couple of characters that we don't give a
Speaker 6: shit about anyway, because honestly, hb as much as I
Speaker 6: enjoyed this movie, I didn't care about one human being here.
Speaker 6: When we watch the original Predator, you and I said
Speaker 6: it that I loved every single member of that team. Here,
Speaker 6: I don't care. Actually that's not true. There's only one
Speaker 6: I care about.
Speaker 2: The Russian, I cared about a few more than you did.
Speaker 2: The I hate to say it because.
Speaker 5: He liked Alice Brago as well.
Speaker 2: She's very good.
Speaker 5: All of the acting.
Speaker 6: Let me just say that all of the acting is
Speaker 6: really good across the board.
Speaker 5: No one turns into bad performance here.
Speaker 2: It's good. But if I was going to lose any
Speaker 2: members of the team and it, like I said, it
Speaker 2: hurts me to say this, I probably would have gotten
Speaker 2: rid of Danny Treo just because, get it, he's a
Speaker 2: Robert Rodriguez mainstay. And when Danny Danny Treo says he's
Speaker 2: going to be in your movie, you put Danny Treyo
Speaker 2: in your fucking movie. But at the same time, he
Speaker 2: to me he didn't add a whole lot. So I
Speaker 2: guess we'll talk a little bit more about each character
Speaker 2: and their backstory. But he, for I don't know, he
Speaker 2: just didn't really do it. For me. He seemed old,
Speaker 2: a little too old to be someone who's plucked in
Speaker 2: the prime of their predatory life and put on a
Speaker 2: planet a little long in the tooth. For that, I
Speaker 2: had a similar reaction. But Larry Fishburn, we'll talk about him.
Speaker 6: Desperado era, Danny trey Hoe, I think would have is
Speaker 6: what they probably had in mind, because that would be
Speaker 6: a cartel in Forrester.
Speaker 5: Had they said it's the head of a.
Speaker 6: Cartel, Danny trey Hooe, that I would have said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: of course that makes sense.
Speaker 2: It just didn't add up for me, like the notion
Speaker 2: of having this guy who is a cartel enforcer, all
Speaker 2: these different like you said, these predators essentially, but he
Speaker 2: you could have lost him and it wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: a big loss for me. But I did. I love
Speaker 2: the Russian he I don't. I think he's actually like
Speaker 2: an MMA fighter turned actor. I thought he was really good.
Speaker 5: It was great. All right, let's just talk characters.
Speaker 6: Are lead Royce played by Adrian Brody. Everyone's favorite Adrian Brody,
Speaker 6: particularly if you're Halle Berry or Jamaican or Lauren Michaels.
Speaker 5: Yeah, John Michaels loves Adrian Brady.
Speaker 6: Look, I think Adrian Brody is a phenomenally talent an actor,
Speaker 6: and he seems like a fucking nightmare to deal with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but having said that, I knew. I remember all
Speaker 2: the criticism when this movie came out. Adrian Brody is
Speaker 2: a predator movie. His action guy I thought he was
Speaker 2: really good. I'm sorry I liked I like the fact
Speaker 2: that they hired an actor and not just like a big,
Speaker 2: buff action star, like not to say Arnold, that's all
Speaker 2: there is to Arnold, but because you have somebody who
Speaker 2: is an intense actor, first, you get invested in his
Speaker 2: plight and his backstory and his journey a little more
Speaker 2: than you would if it's just a faceless, muscly guy
Speaker 2: with a gun. That I think was really shrewd on
Speaker 2: their part to bring him in. I think history will
Speaker 2: prove that was actually a really savvy casting choice, my opinion.
Speaker 6: I think at the time it seemed like a savvy
Speaker 6: casting choice. I think he just won an Academy Award
Speaker 6: for the Pianist, And it was a time when nobody
Speaker 6: believed that Johnny Depp was going to be a pirate captain,
Speaker 6: and suddenly he was, and suddenly, like higher end actors
Speaker 6: were stretching there themselves in other areas. So it's not
Speaker 6: without the realm of possibility. It's just that he chose
Speaker 6: to play it like he was a badass, and he
Speaker 6: doesn't come off that way.
Speaker 5: I never believed him. I didn't believe he's never real problem.
Speaker 5: I didn't believe, HB. I don't believe.
Speaker 2: And I hear you, and I understand. I hear your criticism,
Speaker 2: and I'm not disputing how you feel. It's subjective after all,
Speaker 2: but I look, the voice was a little over the
Speaker 2: top at.
Speaker 5: Times, but he under the top.
Speaker 2: I bought him. And then like at the end, when
Speaker 2: he finally faces off against the predator, it's like an
Speaker 2: R and E versus predator moment and he finally takes
Speaker 2: off his fatigues or whatever. Guy got jacked. I think
Speaker 2: he put on like like a twenty five pounds of
Speaker 2: muscle for this, and it showed. And I think it
Speaker 2: got to the idea that real soldiers aren't going to
Speaker 2: be built like Arnold Schwarzenegger. They're going to be a
Speaker 2: little more lean and a little more wiry. Maybe I
Speaker 2: didn't have a problem with him. I thought I thought
Speaker 2: he was fine. I didn't really have a problem with
Speaker 2: anybody's performance necessarily, but him. He's the lead, obviously, and
Speaker 2: I thought he was good.
Speaker 5: I love to play this game.
Speaker 6: What if he had been played instead by Walton Gagin
Speaker 6: almost immediately more likable as a lead character.
Speaker 5: People would be talking about Royce like they're talking about Harrigan.
Speaker 1: Now, not a.
Speaker 2: Bad choice, and I guess there's any number of people
Speaker 2: who could have done what Walter Goggins does. He's very
Speaker 2: good in this, and I was, look, it's only in
Speaker 2: the last what five years that Walton Goggins has become
Speaker 2: Walton Goggins with Fallout and the White Lotus and all
Speaker 2: these things. Good for him. This was two thousand. I was,
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that his career stretched back that far.
Speaker 2: The guy's been slogging it out in Hollywood and he's
Speaker 2: finally reached the notoriety he deserves. But he's really good
Speaker 2: in this, and he would have been good as Royce,
Speaker 2: I give you that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's crazy to say because he's the most
Speaker 6: vile character, but he's the most likable character. And that's
Speaker 6: because Walton Goggins is so fucking likable. Okay, here's the cast. Everybody,
Speaker 6: we already named it. But okay, so we've got our American.
Speaker 6: That's Adrian Brodie. He's Special Forces, except now he's a
Speaker 6: mercenaron bit. The lead female character is at the Alice
Speaker 6: Braga character. She's from some South American No.
Speaker 2: She's idf she's Israeli.
Speaker 5: Oh, she's Israeli Alice Brock.
Speaker 2: Which was a stretch because she's clearly she's not Israeli.
Speaker 2: She's Brazilian.
Speaker 5: That's why I thought she was South American.
Speaker 2: That's a little weird, but it's very quick where they're
Speaker 2: introducing themselves and he goes, oh, you're guess you're idf right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's supposed to be a sniper with the Israeli defense full.
Speaker 6: And then we've got mahersh Ala Ali who is in
Speaker 6: part of a death squad from South Africa or Africa
Speaker 6: Sierra Leone, from Sierra Leone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, who else?
Speaker 6: Walton Goggins is on death row, so he's a murderer
Speaker 6: and rapist and was going to be executed in two
Speaker 6: days when the predators grabbed him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And there's Danny Trejoe cartel guy. They grabbed him when
Speaker 6: he was in Baja.
Speaker 2: Daves and Baja. There's there's the Japanese fellow who's a
Speaker 2: he's yakuza, who's a young yakuza who doesn't speak. I
Speaker 2: think he only has two lines in the whole movie,
Speaker 2: but he's basically very quiet and intense. Who's do you
Speaker 2: have the actor's name there, I don't. I regret that
Speaker 2: I don't have it.
Speaker 6: I did, I said it at the top. Okay, then
Speaker 6: listened back to mister Ozawa.
Speaker 2: He's very he's in like a sharp suit. He's the
Speaker 2: only one who has just like a I think he
Speaker 2: has a pistol. He doesn't have a rifle like the
Speaker 2: rest of them.
Speaker 5: Do, but he'll eventually have a katana.
Speaker 2: He eventually has a katana. So there's the yak, there's
Speaker 2: the IDF sniper.
Speaker 5: One left.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about Larry Fishburne.
Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about one of these things. Is not
Speaker 5: like the other one.
Speaker 6: Oh, he just doesn't for grace to for grace, and
Speaker 6: I don't mean performance wise or actor wise, because I
Speaker 6: love to for grace.
Speaker 5: I'm gone record. He's good.
Speaker 6: I always enjoy his performances, and his editing is par excellence.
Speaker 2: He's very good. In fact, he we talked about this
Speaker 2: offline at some point. He's in Heretic, and he's really
Speaker 2: good in Heretic. But he's great in everything that he's in.
Speaker 2: Just but he's very good in that, and he's good here.
Speaker 2: I did have a problem we'll get to with his character,
Speaker 2: but we can save that for a little while from now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but he's the wild card because he he
Speaker 2: says he's a doctor. So there's no explanation initially why
Speaker 2: he would be in the midst of all of these
Speaker 2: killers and bad people. Why this guy just driving in
Speaker 2: his car, this physician has been pulled to this planet.
Speaker 2: Which again, it's one of those horrifying things. What if
Speaker 2: they make a mistake, you think? I thought to myself, like,
Speaker 2: what if the Yaucha just picked somebody that they for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, they've mistaken for somebody else. Like I'm sitting
Speaker 2: here drinking coffee at work, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I'm sucked off to an alien planet.
Speaker 5: Because you're a super predator.
Speaker 2: I apparently I don't know when they got that impression.
Speaker 2: But he's he's I work in it.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I don't what is this weapon? I don't.
Speaker 5: I can't even lift this.
Speaker 2: What do you? What am I doing here? But here,
Speaker 2: he's got no weapons, he's got no skills of any kind.
Speaker 2: He basically he's the one that gets saved by all
Speaker 2: these other badasses time and time again.
Speaker 6: If he had a medical bag on him, then I
Speaker 6: would have been less suspicious. I would have thought, Oh,
Speaker 6: would be the predators give him a medic.
Speaker 2: That's what my assumption was, like, maybe they assume that
Speaker 2: it's a medic to patch these guys up if they
Speaker 2: get injured. But he's got nothing on him.
Speaker 6: Which, yeah, exactly, because it would make sense because when
Speaker 6: they send their fucking dogs, if they hadn't all been
Speaker 6: firing wildly at those dogs, they'd all be dead, and
Speaker 6: then the predators would be like, oh man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's less about flushing them.
Speaker 6: Yet, wolf Master Predator again, because these things are it
Speaker 6: takes a lot.
Speaker 2: That scene where the dogs are trying to flush them
Speaker 2: out is basically the Bill Duke in Predator shooting the
Speaker 2: railgun into the forest for three minutes, because it's just
Speaker 2: an endless scene where these dogs are advancing, they're shooting.
Speaker 2: They've shot so much that some of these guys have
Speaker 2: to go to their secondary weapon because they're out of
Speaker 2: AMMO on their primary rifle. It's a great sequence, but
Speaker 2: it does go on for a long time.
Speaker 5: A little too long.
Speaker 6: I will say that initially it's just the one dog,
Speaker 6: and when they finally kill it, another one appears right
Speaker 6: behind it, and that first one took so long to
Speaker 6: kill and then it cuts to like a scene in
Speaker 6: a forest where a pack of them are just racing forward.
Speaker 6: I thought, oh, this is rate, but yeah, it ends
Speaker 6: up going on too long, and then it ends up
Speaker 6: like fucking with its own logic because it seems like
Speaker 6: every single one of them was necessary, every single lead
Speaker 6: character firing was necessary to take down one of them,
Speaker 6: and then they were all just taking him down singly.
Speaker 5: I think Walton Goggins kills one with a knife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his weapon. By the way, all of them are.
Speaker 2: They stand up because they have a unique weapon that
Speaker 2: they carry. The Russian carries a giant rail gun like
Speaker 2: Jesse Ventura in the first one. The IDF sniper has
Speaker 2: this huge, badass sniper rifle. Royce has a giant rifle
Speaker 2: of some kind with a camouflage on it.
Speaker 5: It's it's a riot shotgun.
Speaker 2: Is that what that is?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it a big drum filled with shotgun shells. You
Speaker 6: notice it on.
Speaker 2: His He's got the bandolier.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he has bandoliers with shotgun shells on both both straps.
Speaker 2: The yakuza has really fancy pistol. The cartel guy has
Speaker 2: double oozies. I think that he's wielding.
Speaker 5: I don't think.
Speaker 6: I don't think they're oozzies, but they are hand machine pistols.
Speaker 2: Are they like mac Ten's I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know anything about it.
Speaker 6: They're not that either, but I don't know the name
Speaker 6: of them, but they're not the standard ones that, yeah,
Speaker 6: you've seen in an eighties movie.
Speaker 2: Sure. And then Walton Goggins, who's this death row prisoner,
Speaker 2: has a knife. But at least he has a knife,
Speaker 2: because the doctor Tofer Grays has nothing. I think he
Speaker 2: has a pocket knife.
Speaker 5: He has a scalpel.
Speaker 2: Oh is that what that is? I thought it was
Speaker 2: like a little pocket knife.
Speaker 6: Oh no, it's a scalpel. Definitely, Okay, I got it
Speaker 6: because he uses it later he does. So here's our heroes.
Speaker 6: They've all been dropped on this planet. They don't know
Speaker 6: it's a planet. They don't know where they are. They
Speaker 6: can't quite figure it out because something seems a bit
Speaker 6: off because the sun shouldn't be where it is, and
Speaker 6: it's too hot for where they are, and blah blah blah,
Speaker 6: follow me, don't follow me. I don't care. I'm a badass.
Speaker 6: Let's follow him. Hey, wait a minute, should there be
Speaker 6: two moons.
Speaker 5: In the sky.
Speaker 2: This is like a cliff version.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: It must be said by the way that we don't
Speaker 2: really see our first view of a predator until about
Speaker 2: forty five minutes into the movie.
Speaker 6: Basically I liked that actually because I like getting to
Speaker 6: know these characters.
Speaker 5: Like I said, ultimately, I didn't care.
Speaker 6: I didn't care about any of them because they didn't
Speaker 6: actually make any connections or anything.
Speaker 5: But that isn't because I didn't like the structure of this.
Speaker 6: Like I really enjoyed the fact that they got attacked
Speaker 6: by those dogs first, and then at the last second
Speaker 6: there's a whistle going.
Speaker 5: Off and you're like, oh man, the predator's coming.
Speaker 6: It's It was such a nice intro to them without
Speaker 6: having to reveal them at all.
Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, you feel their presence without actually seeing them,
Speaker 2: that the big reveal is coming.
Speaker 6: So our heroes are now they have a mission, right,
Speaker 6: what mission?
Speaker 5: Here's the thing.
Speaker 6: As soon as they come over that ridge and look
Speaker 6: up and see a different suns in the sky and
Speaker 6: there are different planets in their atmosphere, all hope is lost.
Speaker 6: That's all I could. That's it, guys, You're going to
Speaker 6: die here. No matter what you do, because they don't
Speaker 6: have a plan to begin with, right, they just keep marching.
Speaker 2: They're hoping to get to the edge of the preserve
Speaker 2: to get away from whatever's hunting them before they know
Speaker 2: what it is. And then you're right. It's like the
Speaker 2: ending of like Planet of the Apes, where you realize
Speaker 2: that's the big shock ending when they look up in
Speaker 2: the sky and there's Jupiter and all these planets. Me
Speaker 2: as a viewer, I'm thinking to myself, just like you said,
Speaker 2: that's even if I can survive and kill whatever it
Speaker 2: is that's hunting us, I'm going to die on this planet.
Speaker 2: There's no way. I don't even where am I. How
Speaker 2: do I possibly get off of this planet. It's impossible.
Speaker 5: It's impossible.
Speaker 6: Okay, but you know what they do have a mission
Speaker 6: at hand, which is stay alive and don't be killed
Speaker 6: by these things that are clearly hunting them. Okay, great,
Speaker 6: Now we meet a new character.
Speaker 2: Yep, Larry Fishburn.
Speaker 6: Okay, your face all right, listen. I like the idea
Speaker 6: of his character a whole lot. When he approaches the group,
Speaker 6: he's dressed as a predator. We think it's a predator,
Speaker 6: and then he takes the mask off and it's Lawrence Fishburne.
Speaker 6: And I wish he's credit hadn't been in the opening
Speaker 6: titles because it would be such a fucking cool reveal.
Speaker 6: So he has survived for ten seasons, ten hunting seasons,
Speaker 6: which according to the filmmakers is about two and a half. You,
Speaker 6: so he's been on the planet surviving somehow. And he's like,
Speaker 6: I loved his performance, by the way, because he's obviously cuckoo,
Speaker 6: but I loved how quiet he was. You never see
Speaker 6: Lawrence fishburn this quiet. But basically, it's come with me
Speaker 6: if you want to live.
Speaker 2: But what the cool and this is fan service, I
Speaker 2: get it. But the one of the coolest parts of
Speaker 2: it was they're in this at this quiet moment and
Speaker 2: they hear something say to them over here, this whisper
Speaker 2: over here, turn around, which is what we heard in
Speaker 2: the first Predator. It's Bill Duke when he was sampled
Speaker 2: essentially by the predator. That's those are the lines that
Speaker 2: he spoke that were parroted back by the predator. So
Speaker 2: me as a viewer, I'm like, oh, so they must
Speaker 2: have it's a predator somehow they know what the other
Speaker 2: one's experience, and they're a nice callback to the first movie.
Speaker 2: But then the big reveal is that it's this guy.
Speaker 2: He was air calve. He was dropped there, like you said,
Speaker 2: a couple of years prior, and he's this badass, but
Speaker 2: he's gone crazy over the last couple of years. He's
Speaker 2: mostly there, but he has a habit of talking to himself,
Speaker 2: and he takes them to there's a like a mining
Speaker 2: ship or some kind of drill that is no longer operational,
Speaker 2: but it has a power supply. This is where he's
Speaker 2: been hiding out, scavenging from the other predators for two
Speaker 2: plus years or however long it's been. He's got food.
Speaker 2: Here's my problem with Larry Fishburne in this, and it's
Speaker 2: gonna sound so petty. I apologize in advance. But so
Speaker 2: he's been living by the skin of his teeth for
Speaker 2: two years, scavenging food and whatever else he needs to survive.
Speaker 2: To me, he didn't look like he was missing too
Speaker 2: many meals. He he's an older guy. I get that.
Speaker 2: We all the metabolism doesn't do any favors as you
Speaker 2: get older. He didn't look like somebody who's been living
Speaker 2: by the skin of his teeth for two years. He
Speaker 2: just looked too plump. To me, to be brutally honest.
Speaker 6: He did look very healthy. I did notice that while
Speaker 6: I was watching. I thought, wow, he looked great, but
Speaker 6: I didn't think of it in terms of he looks
Speaker 6: a little too good to have been living on the
Speaker 6: run from predators and killing strange beasts and hoping he
Speaker 6: doesn't die from poison when he eats them.
Speaker 2: Because he can't be like what kind of We don't
Speaker 2: see many of the creatures that are native to this location,
Speaker 2: but he can't be he's living off of the equivalent
Speaker 2: of like rats, probably like he's scavenging. He's not. He's
Speaker 2: not gonna call attention to himself, so he must he
Speaker 2: should have been much more gaunt and just worn out.
Speaker 6: See two missed opportunities in the original. In that original
Speaker 6: Robert Rodriguez script, Dutchess character ends up partnered with the
Speaker 6: like the leader of this army that initially was taking
Speaker 6: him to prison.
Speaker 5: And what we what you discover is.
Speaker 6: That that character, which by the way, was written for
Speaker 6: Jean Claude van dam So the idea was going to
Speaker 6: be Schwarzenegger and Jean Claude van dam as like teammates
Speaker 6: going against the predators. But then the twist at the
Speaker 6: end of the movie was the reason that the the
Speaker 6: soldiers are outfitted in predator gear is that the government
Speaker 6: on Earth has made a pact with the predators and
Speaker 6: that we keep supplying them with fresh game and they
Speaker 6: share their technology with us. Oh yeah, so that could
Speaker 6: have been similar here, where maybe he's in league with
Speaker 6: the predators, like they're giving him food and supplies and stuff,
Speaker 6: and he's aiding them when people are eluding them. Somehow
Speaker 6: could have been something could have answered that question. Unfortunately,
Speaker 6: what we get is just a looney who wants their stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he double crosses them. Basically, he invites them
Speaker 2: to his home for lack of a better word. When
Speaker 2: they're distracted and he says he's going to sleep, he
Speaker 2: basically walls them into their chamber and tries to basically
Speaker 2: suffocate them with smoke. He lights a fire in the
Speaker 2: hopes that they'll asphyxiate and he'll steal their gear. Doesn't
Speaker 2: quite work out that way for him, unfortunately for him,
Speaker 2: but it is. It was a bit of a letdown
Speaker 2: because it's a really interesting idea that this guy's it's
Speaker 2: like it's like newt in Aliens. How has this girl
Speaker 2: possibly been like surviving when these xenomorphs are infesting this base? Right?
Speaker 2: How is this guy living on this alien planet for
Speaker 2: two years without a losing hope and b just not
Speaker 2: succumbing to the elements exposure the other critters that are
Speaker 2: abounding interesting idea?
Speaker 6: And then the predators show up and vaporize him completely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gone.
Speaker 6: We meet him, he tries to fuck them over, and
Speaker 6: then he gets blasted into oblivion.
Speaker 2: Fairness. I think Fishburn was only on set for about
Speaker 2: two days, so it's part wasn't that big. But he's
Speaker 2: it's Lawrence Fishburn. The guy is awesome, And there's even
Speaker 2: a little callback because he's talking about his days in
Speaker 2: the air calve.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's clearly supposed to be cool, right. Character is
Speaker 6: named Clue and it was named cool in Apocalypse Now. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he's talking about air cab and then he starts doing
Speaker 6: fucking up the right of the Valkyries.
Speaker 2: Right of the Valkyries. He starts to hummer the Valkyries,
Speaker 2: thinking to himself about the old days. So I thought
Speaker 2: that was neat. It's fan service again, but I'm not.
Speaker 6: I'm not opposing some fucking subtles fan service there.
Speaker 2: That it is. Maybe the average person going to see
Speaker 2: this movie wouldn't be a huge Apocalypse Now fan, but
Speaker 2: I was happy that it was there. And it again,
Speaker 2: there's these moments that kind of elevate the movie and
Speaker 2: make it a little more special, and that's one of them.
Speaker 6: Okay, But what his character does do for the plot
Speaker 6: is he lets them know that where they were at
Speaker 6: that camp, just feet away, twenty feet away, there's a ship.
Speaker 6: The predators have a ship. It's cloaked, it's right there.
Speaker 6: They can get off of this planet. So now they
Speaker 6: have a mission. Now the plot is, let's get to
Speaker 6: the ship. And I'm still like, you're all gonna die
Speaker 6: on this planet. What are you gonna do when you
Speaker 6: get on that ship?
Speaker 4: Done?
Speaker 2: Yes, there's no on switch. It's not like getting into
Speaker 2: your Chevy, into your car and turning the ignition. They
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe there's a fingerprint scanner that only responds
Speaker 2: to yaucha fingers.
Speaker 6: Knowing the reputation of the yaoucha, you could push a
Speaker 6: button and self destruct.
Speaker 2: Exactly, but it is. It's a neat thing with the
Speaker 2: Roy's character where Laurence Fishburn's character basically says to him,
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous, just go and get into this who's gonna
Speaker 2: fly it? And Roy says, I'll give it a shot.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Okay, that's the kind of guy that
Speaker 2: you want to be stuck on an alien planet with.
Speaker 2: I'd follow that guy, because look, either we stay and
Speaker 2: die and become trophies for some weird alien race, or
Speaker 2: we at least try to get off of this god
Speaker 2: forsaken planet.
Speaker 6: Why not you couldn't either we stay and forge a
Speaker 6: life here because that's really our only option, or we
Speaker 6: could definitely die in a flaming wreck while you try
Speaker 6: and get.
Speaker 5: Us off this planet. And once we're in the once
Speaker 5: we're in orbit, what are we doing? Where are we going?
Speaker 5: You're going to navigate us home?
Speaker 2: That is ridiculous, you're right, But again, you're making it
Speaker 2: sound like we're going to forge a life on this planet.
Speaker 2: This isn't the room.
Speaker 5: It's the only option. They're not knowing anywhere.
Speaker 2: It's a hopeless existence. They're going to be like living
Speaker 2: in fear twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 6: Like Robinson Carusseau not a.
Speaker 2: But then, but the that's where the prisoner predator comes
Speaker 2: into play because.
Speaker 5: Figures he can fly the ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can fly the ship. That guy wants to
Speaker 2: be released if I can spring him from this this
Speaker 2: totem that he's chained to. He will do this for me.
Speaker 2: He will do me this solid which is again it's
Speaker 2: a wing and a prayer. There's no this predator might
Speaker 2: just kill the guy at the first opportunity if he
Speaker 2: releases him, because he may just be feral, who knows.
Speaker 2: But that's the mission. Now, the mission pivots to we've
Speaker 2: got to get to the back to the predator camp
Speaker 2: and see what we can work out with this.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, sure, look you know what that is a
Speaker 6: solid plan. Yeah, And I gotta say the script thinks
Speaker 6: it's being edgy and subversive by constantly pulling the rug
Speaker 6: out from under us. Right, we're we're on this planet.
Speaker 5: We're not going to go it. Wait, there's a ship.
Speaker 5: Maybe we can get to this ship.
Speaker 6: Okay, and now now we're gonna be saved by this predator.
Speaker 6: And then the other predator, fucking the berserker predator shows
Speaker 6: up and just fucking cuts his head off.
Speaker 2: Yep, there goes that plan.
Speaker 5: Whoops. Oh my god. Okay, so look, everybody's dead.
Speaker 6: There's only three of them left now, and they get separated.
Speaker 6: It's Alice Braga and Toafer Craze in one one corner and.
Speaker 5: Adrian Brody in the other.
Speaker 6: And Adrian Brody is gonna he's gonna get on the
Speaker 6: ship and come back for them.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I didn't get that impression. He They
Speaker 2: basically have this confrontation where so what's happened is Taufer
Speaker 2: Grace's character the doctor and quotes he has a trap
Speaker 2: has ensnared his leg, and Alice Braga Isabelle's her named
Speaker 2: the Sniper, releases him. But Royce's look, that trap wasn't
Speaker 2: meant to kill you. It's just meant to maim you.
Speaker 2: You're dead. There's nothing more I can do for you.
Speaker 2: Let's see if we can get the hell out of
Speaker 2: here while we still can us survivors. And Isabelle her
Speaker 2: redemption moment is no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna deal with
Speaker 2: this guy because she has She said her regret is
Speaker 2: her spotter at some military exercise was killed. She could
Speaker 2: have saved him, but she didn't, and that haunts her.
Speaker 2: So this is her redemption for not saving her spotter.
Speaker 2: So Royce is, fine, you do what the hell you want.
Speaker 2: I'm out of here half an age.
Speaker 6: If you do whatever you want to mat it's not
Speaker 6: a badass by But I don't care for nobody.
Speaker 5: I don't get a character in this.
Speaker 2: Movie, so I didn't anyway. I didn't get the sense
Speaker 2: that he was gonna circle back once he got on
Speaker 2: the ship. He's just like, this is my mission. I
Speaker 2: have to get off this planet. Which is unusual because
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys, the Russian guy has he
Speaker 2: has a picture of his kids and that's his motivation.
Speaker 2: He's I got to get back to my kids. They
Speaker 2: don't deserve this, blah blah blah. They all have something
Speaker 2: that they're trying to work towards some redemption. But Royce
Speaker 2: is he has nothing. He's not really.
Speaker 6: Over and over again, the redemption seems to be saving
Speaker 6: tofer Grace.
Speaker 2: Is they all save him at one time or another,
Speaker 2: right at different points in the movie.
Speaker 5: And the Russian dies doing it, she almost dies doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the Russian sacrifices himself.
Speaker 6: He sure does for this piece of shit, because obviously
Speaker 6: tofer Grace is a serial killer. If anyone didn't figure
Speaker 6: that out in the first five minutes of the movie,
Speaker 6: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: That might have been one of my biggest problems with this.
Speaker 2: I don't have a great I'm not a screenwriter, so
Speaker 2: I don't have a great notion of what they could
Speaker 2: have done with the Tofer Grace character. But it's such
Speaker 2: a silly heel turn at the moment that it is
Speaker 2: that he's We've seen him at the beginning of the movie.
Speaker 2: They're walking around and a character almost touches this plant
Speaker 2: that has this neurotoxin that tofer Grace is, oh no,
Speaker 2: this is whatever trump tophilia, and this neurotoxin is bad,
Speaker 2: and he puts it on his scalpel to say, here's
Speaker 2: the goo, and you forget about it. And then he
Speaker 2: when he makes his heel turn and you discover that
Speaker 2: he's a serial killer. He nicks Alice Braga's character with
Speaker 2: the neurotoxin, so she's paralyzed temporarily, and he talks about
Speaker 2: all these bad things he's gonna do to her and
Speaker 2: how he actually feels like he's home. He wants to
Speaker 2: stay on the planet because he identifies with the predators.
Speaker 2: It just seems so half baked. He's just this generic
Speaker 2: serial killer. I didn't get it. I don't know, I
Speaker 2: just didn't buy it.
Speaker 5: Serial Killers select their victims very carefully.
Speaker 6: It isn't just a spree killing, because that's what is
Speaker 6: so just pathologically that doesn't make Second of all, this
Speaker 6: is the time and place.
Speaker 5: You're in a fucking trap. Still.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in a pit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, get out of the pit first, Get out of
Speaker 6: the pit, go somewhere safe. You're gonna she's your fucking
Speaker 6: pray now, right, Like it's just a matter of time.
Speaker 6: The timing is so stupid not to mention this idea.
Speaker 6: I can understand the predators being drawn to places of
Speaker 6: conflict where they can disappear and observe and go, oh,
Speaker 6: look that one in particular, he's really good.
Speaker 5: Grab him.
Speaker 6: I can understand them even maybe potentially monitoring the news
Speaker 6: and finding out that there is a particularly deranged psychopath
Speaker 6: who's about to be executed. But when the FBI and
Speaker 6: the internet mobs can't find a serial killer and they do,
Speaker 6: I have to wonder what the fuck anyone was thinking
Speaker 6: while writing this.
Speaker 5: What did the predators do? Were they following his case
Speaker 5: in the papers?
Speaker 6: And when, and they made some fucking decision that it
Speaker 6: had to be this doctor.
Speaker 2: It the predator. The predators pick their prey because they
Speaker 2: are can physically do battle with them. These are the
Speaker 2: These are people that give them a fair fight. We've
Speaker 2: seen them in movies that they want to attack somebody if
Speaker 2: they don't have a weapon, So we know that they
Speaker 2: have some sort of code of honor, and they are
Speaker 2: very particular about the kinds of creatures that they will
Speaker 2: go after. If him being a there's nothing mant that's
Speaker 2: not the right word. There's nothing physically imposing about tof
Speaker 2: for grace, there's nothing that there's no physical matchup with
Speaker 2: this wiry serial killer who does his deeds in secret.
Speaker 2: I don't see where that's something a predator would consider
Speaker 2: a fair fight. It just seems like a mismatch of
Speaker 2: the highest order. So I don't understand it would have
Speaker 2: been more interesting, frankly, Father Malone if they didn't have
Speaker 2: this twist that he's literally just somebody who was the
Speaker 2: wrong place, wrong time. He was picked for no reason.
Speaker 2: But maybe through the course of the movie, he finds
Speaker 2: it within himself to stand up to these predators, to
Speaker 2: become a bit of a badass that he never could
Speaker 2: be just by happenstance, by bad luck, he was picked
Speaker 2: to put be put on this planet. It would have
Speaker 2: been a great through line. It would have been you
Speaker 2: would have been really sorry to see him die because
Speaker 2: you would have been attached to him. This is a
Speaker 2: situation that everybody watching the movie could identify with. We
Speaker 2: already talked about how horrifying it is to find yourself
Speaker 2: falling onto this alien planet through no no, through no
Speaker 2: fault of your own. But imagine on top of that,
Speaker 2: you're just some ordinary guy going to drinking Starbucks in
Speaker 2: your car, going to work, and then boom. Now you're
Speaker 2: putting this untenable situation that you will probably never get
Speaker 2: away from. I think they should have just gone and
Speaker 2: made it just continued on that thread. That making him
Speaker 2: a serial killer just seemed I don't know, like I said,
Speaker 2: half baked, and I don't know, illogical to me on
Speaker 2: so many levels.
Speaker 6: It's such clever screen. I guess that's ultimately it.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: Somebody thought, oh, the ultimate predator for humans is a
Speaker 6: serial killer, so we'll put it in a serial killer.
Speaker 6: Then no one will expect that. But who gives a
Speaker 6: shit because he doesn't have anything. The predators are looking for.
Speaker 6: The predators, from what we understand from this movie is
Speaker 6: that they're trying to become better and better, and so
Speaker 6: they pick opponents who present a possible threat to them.
Speaker 6: This isn't a fucking fish in the barrel situation. Like
Speaker 6: the predators are supposed to be potentially able to be
Speaker 6: killed by their quarry.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Fishburne's character lays it out in his conversation before
Speaker 2: he turns heel where he says, look, every season there's
Speaker 2: another three predators that land, and once in a while
Speaker 2: somebody will kill a predator. But he says, the amazing
Speaker 2: thing is they learn quick. That's what he says. He says,
Speaker 2: they learn quick. They change tactics, they change weaponry, they
Speaker 2: change armor, they change everything. He's admiring the fact that
Speaker 2: they can adapt to these different types of quarry that
Speaker 2: they've stocked the planet with. So, yeah, they're gonna want
Speaker 2: people that they're going to test their ability to hunt,
Speaker 2: and there's nothing about to for grace outwardly that would
Speaker 2: present a challenge to a seven foot tall yaucha with
Speaker 2: blades for arms and a laser on his shoulder.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 6: I think, we really need to fight something that ingratiates
Speaker 6: our himself into our lives, and then we would never
Speaker 6: expect that he would kill it.
Speaker 2: It's just this moment where he's menacing the sniper, but
Speaker 2: then it turns out it comes back. We thought that
Speaker 2: the ship had been blown up with him on board,
Speaker 2: but it turns out he wasn't on board, so he's
Speaker 2: able to come in and save that's his moment of redemption.
Speaker 2: He comes back and saves the sniper from a fate
Speaker 2: worse than death, and then uses to for Grace's. He
Speaker 2: essentially hits him with the same neurotoxin that to for
Speaker 2: Grace gave the sniper, and then he leaves him as bait.
Speaker 2: He puts all these hand grenades all over him and
Speaker 2: leaves him as bait for the final surviving Berserker predator.
Speaker 2: And that's what I like. I like that a lot. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it made sense because that's what a military. That's a
Speaker 2: tactic that this military, this MRK would come up with.
Speaker 2: I thought it was really cool. So that's how he
Speaker 2: meets his end. He's blown up and it incapacitates the predator,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't kill him. It just weakens him enough
Speaker 2: to where it's now it's a fair fight between him
Speaker 2: and Roycen.
Speaker 6: They shouldn't have made it a young guy. They should
Speaker 6: have made it an old guy who just looked like
Speaker 6: a civilian. And then at the end you find out
Speaker 6: he's like some general and he used to be the
Speaker 6: biggest badass ever and that's why they grabbed him. But
Speaker 6: then Royce finds out that he initiated some operation where
Speaker 6: his entire team was wiped out, and now he hooks
Speaker 6: him up to a bunch of grenades and leaves him
Speaker 6: as bait for the predator.
Speaker 5: All Right, maybe I'm fan fictioning.
Speaker 2: But the point that we're making here is that there's
Speaker 2: at least two dozen different ways they could have gone
Speaker 2: with this. I would be in favor of wrong place,
Speaker 2: wrong time. Let's see, he then becomes the audience proxy.
Speaker 2: So you're in the midst of all of these badasses
Speaker 2: who have these preternatural abilities to fight and survive, and
Speaker 2: then you have this nebbish who did nothing wrong. He's
Speaker 2: not an evil person, he's not somebody who's atoning for
Speaker 2: his crimes. Because at one point they're walking there, they
Speaker 2: still haven't figured out where they are and what their
Speaker 2: purpose is, and they one of the wonders allowed maybe
Speaker 2: we're dead. Maybe this is where this is hell and
Speaker 2: where this is where we're all doomed to spend eternity
Speaker 2: because of what we've done in life, which I thought
Speaker 2: was an interesting little moment. But be putting that aside,
Speaker 2: there's all sorts of ways you could have made that
Speaker 2: tof for grace character more interesting and not even recast them.
Speaker 2: He could have done so much more with a different
Speaker 2: a different arc to his character.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they could have just made him a young soldier
Speaker 6: who seems like the nicest one there and turns out
Speaker 6: to be the most vile.
Speaker 5: Like the ultimate pred I belong here, Yes you do.
Speaker 6: But like the idea that he's suddenly setting up a
Speaker 6: kill room like Dexter at the bottom of a fucking
Speaker 6: tiger pit is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I'm silly, silly, But hats off to them also, where
Speaker 2: if we're talking about things that they did, right as
Speaker 2: far as this confrontation between Royce and the Predator and
Speaker 2: the trap that he lays, they do fight, and it's
Speaker 2: it shouldn't come to any surprise that Royce bests this
Speaker 2: last Predator of the three he was the only remaining.
Speaker 6: Is it's He takes all the gunpowder and lines, puts
Speaker 6: a line around the camp so that it'll burn out
Speaker 6: the vision of the predator. He then lightly wipes on
Speaker 6: a little mud because he doesn't want to cover up
Speaker 6: that physique, and then while the predator is distracted, he
Speaker 6: runs through the frame with an axe, hitting the predator
Speaker 6: over and over against so the predator is confused, and
Speaker 6: Royce appears smack and runs out of the frame. And
Speaker 6: then the predator's confused and then disappeared as Smack and
Speaker 6: runs out of the frame. And all I kept thinking
Speaker 6: is why didn't you save one fucking shotgunshll and as
Speaker 6: you're running past, put it to his face and shoot him.
Speaker 2: It's a little cartoonish. I won't dispute that.
Speaker 6: It's a little comic bookie, and that's ultimately what I
Speaker 6: came away with. This feels a little more like Dark
Speaker 6: Horse comics than anything else.
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair, But the bottom line is he
Speaker 2: eventually essentially decapitates him. He kills the predators done, and
Speaker 2: that's one of those audience moments like, yeah, we're cheering,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, this is a movie. As
Speaker 2: you said, that's fond of pulling the rug out from
Speaker 2: under you at every turn. They're still trapped. Him and
Speaker 2: this sniper are still trapped on an inhospitable world where
Speaker 2: any moment there's gonna be another Like they look up
Speaker 2: in the sky and there's already parachutes coming down, so
Speaker 2: they know the next season is ready to begin, the
Speaker 2: next hunting season.
Speaker 6: Who's scheduling the seasons because clearly somebody stacked up and
Speaker 6: they they overbooked.
Speaker 2: It's very short season, I think, because they've only been
Speaker 2: there for it looks to me like real time, it's
Speaker 2: probably two days if maybe if that's very that's a
Speaker 2: very quick season. But they can see that there's more people,
Speaker 2: there's more creatures coming, which surely means there's more predator
Speaker 2: creatures coming, so there's no escape. That the ship that
Speaker 2: he tried to escape on was destroyed by one of
Speaker 2: the other predators. So it wasn't a happy ending, which
Speaker 2: I guess I can appreciate that. There's nothing happy about it.
Speaker 2: It's just they're going to continue to survive.
Speaker 5: Let's get the hell off of this planet.
Speaker 2: You hated that voice so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the planet HP.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. This is a little
Speaker 2: off topic, but only a little bit. Now, Actually you
Speaker 2: can cut this out if you want. Are we going
Speaker 2: to talk about killer of Killers? Also? As part We're
Speaker 2: going to talk about Killer of Killers in a while.
Speaker 2: It's going to be the last thing we talk about
Speaker 2: before Badland. Now, for those who maybe have have already
Speaker 2: seen it, be aware that they added an extended ending
Speaker 2: to it after it had already been broadcast on Hulu.
Speaker 2: I believe the extended ending is you see this giant
Speaker 2: basically a warehouse of people cryogenically in these these capsules,
Speaker 2: and they're they're they're moving the Viking into her little spot.
Speaker 2: She's she's killed one of the predators or now she's
Speaker 2: you know, that's what they do when you kill a predator.
Speaker 2: You have a place of honor in this mausoleum. Essentially,
Speaker 2: Then the extended ending we see they've also brought into
Speaker 2: this warehouse Harrigan from Predator to Anauru from Prey, and
Speaker 2: Dutch from the very first Predator. So this is the
Speaker 2: first time we've seen any of Dutch since the first movie.
Speaker 2: Now here's my question, here's what I'm leading up to,
Speaker 2: Father alone. Why is there An Royce in the warehouse.
Speaker 2: Why don't we see Adrian Brodie's character since he killed
Speaker 2: a predator and lived to tell the tale.
Speaker 5: Excellent question.
Speaker 6: Maybe they're ignoring predators like predators ignored alien versus predator.
Speaker 6: Or maybe Adrian Brody said no, you cannot use my likeness.
Speaker 6: Or they hated this movie and are trying to ignore it.
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, do you have a theory.
Speaker 2: I don't have a theory. I was more curious about
Speaker 2: what your theory was, because you think you have a
Speaker 2: better mind for what the actual Hollywood logistics might be
Speaker 2: in this, and you might be right. Maybe he didn't
Speaker 2: sign off on giving his likeness to this picture, or
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought I thought it was a
Speaker 2: little bit of a disservice to the character, because I
Speaker 2: liked him a whole lot more than you did in Predators.
Speaker 2: But there's no disputing that he killed the predator. And
Speaker 2: the way the culture apparently works is when you do that,
Speaker 2: you are you receive a place of honor in their
Speaker 2: mausoleum of killers. He wasn't there. I think it was
Speaker 2: a real missed opportunity.
Speaker 6: Maybe he's dead, maybe he didn't last too many seasons.
Speaker 6: Maybe he lasted only two more seasons and then the
Speaker 6: predators got him because they learned quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only thing that I could think of
Speaker 2: that made any sense was maybe, you know, if you
Speaker 2: extend this out, maybe in another week or so, he
Speaker 2: just was killed. He couldn't make it. He was overwhelmed,
Speaker 2: and that was it. That's the only thing that made
Speaker 2: any sense to me. But again, I think if it
Speaker 2: just would have been very intriguing from a fan perspective
Speaker 2: to see all of these you know, anti heroes or
Speaker 2: not anti heroes, but all these stars, these these characters
Speaker 2: that that you know, completed the ultimate objective of killing
Speaker 2: a predator. I just thought it was kind of it
Speaker 2: was a missed opportunity.
Speaker 5: I'd be okay with I'd be okay with Isabelle.
Speaker 2: Well, she didn't actually kill a predator.
Speaker 5: Who cares. She was there. She was there, but she
Speaker 5: shot one.
Speaker 2: No, but she didn't kill it.
Speaker 5: So so that's what you have to do.
Speaker 2: All the people in the mausoleum that we see have
Speaker 2: killed at least one predator.
Speaker 5: I don't have to do anything. All I have to do.
Speaker 6: Is promise people that on the next show, we're gonna
Speaker 6: be talking about the Predator, not Predator, not Predators, not
Speaker 6: Predator two, but the Predator, the Predator.
Speaker 5: Definitive article, definite article. HP. Do you recommend this movie?
Speaker 2: I do. I do recommend this movie. I think as
Speaker 2: a direct sequel to Predator one and two, I think
Speaker 2: it's fabulous. I think if you could, if you had
Speaker 2: thrown out AVP and AVP Requiem, this would have fit
Speaker 2: in nicely, and and this series's franchise would be a
Speaker 2: little more highly regarded than it was prior to Pray.
Speaker 5: I agree with that.
Speaker 6: I do think it's much better than both of those movies,
Speaker 6: and I was happy to see a return to or
Speaker 6: at least in action. But uh, I don't know. I
Speaker 6: don't know about this one. I kind of I kind
Speaker 6: of recommend it. I recommend this over Alien versus Predator
Speaker 6: or Requiem, but that's.
Speaker 2: A very low bar. I recommend The Room over either
Speaker 2: of those movies. So that movie is objectively terrible, but
Speaker 2: it's at least it's entertaining at times.
Speaker 5: Okay, not, you know, is it better than Predator?
Speaker 2: Is the Room? No?
Speaker 5: What we're talking about the Room for?
Speaker 1: Is this?
Speaker 2: Is this better than Predator?
Speaker 1: Too.
Speaker 6: Yes, well, okay, then that's a Sterling recommendation, a Sterling K.
Speaker 6: Brown recommendation featured in The Predator. On the next episode
Speaker 6: of Yauca Fest HP. Until then, where can people find you?
Speaker 2: All Right? I co host the Night Mister Walters Taxi
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Speaker 2: another podcast, music podcast called The Noise Junkies. And if
Speaker 2: that weren't enough, I have a band camp site Hpmusicplace
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Speaker 4: Be like, what time is it?
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