WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.040 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:10.359 House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Welcome 3 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:13.880 to home Where. Every week we help you better understand 4 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:17.120 that place where you live. I am Dean Sharp, the 5 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:20.399 House Whisper here with you live like I am every 6 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:24.879 weekend Saturday morning, six to eight Pacific time, Sunday mornings 7 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:28.600 nine to noon Pacific time. Welcome to the show. Welcome 8 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:32.039 to the third hour of our little show. We're talking 9 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:38.640 about little things today, little details that matter in your home. Also, 10 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:41.960 you know what, I'm gonna go back to the phones 11 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:44.719 next break, So just so you know, we're not done 12 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:46.840 with calls yet today. If you're already on the line, 13 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:50.039 you might want to hang tight. Otherwise. The number to 14 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:53.399 reach me eight three three two. Ask Dean. A three 15 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:56.600 three the numeral to ask Dean, and that can be 16 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:00.880 any question about anything that's going on with your home today. 17 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:04.359 A three three two, As Dean. We will go back 18 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:06.959 to the phones right after the next news break. All right, 19 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:10.400 I'm still struggling with this frog in my throat, so 20 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:15.000 forgive me if I have a moment or two here, Uh, 21 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:18.519 I left you hanging at the end of the last segment, 22 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:23.560 I said, how does the fact that there are trims available, 23 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:27.519 lighting trims available for your recess can lights other than 24 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:30.599 the ones that you're staring up at right now, how 25 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:34.480 does that become a detail that matters that can transform 26 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.680 your home. Well, I shared with you that the number 27 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:42.599 one rule of lighting design is that we light things, 28 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:47.040 not rooms things. And and of course we talked the sad, 29 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:50.439 sad story of most people's recess can lights just in 30 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:53.760 a big grid on the ceiling. So without moving those cans, 31 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:58.040 how can we get them closer to the ideal? Well, 32 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:02.159 here is how we go out and we get a 33 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:07.040 new trim for that recess can light. That trim instead 34 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:10.840 of being a down light where it just straight down, 35 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:15.479 throws light down onto the floor, also producing glare as 36 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.719 you look up to the ceiling because you see the 37 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:22.039 light source right with your eyeball there. Instead of that, 38 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:28.800 what we want is something like a gimbal. A gimbal 39 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:33.000 a gimbal is a movable They used to be called eyeballs, 40 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.560 but they don't look like eyeballs anymore, so we don't 41 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:40.280 call them that. A gimbal is a movable, directional, pointable 42 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:44.680 light source. And yes, there is a gimbal trim for 43 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:48.280 the recess can light in your home. What that means 44 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:52.560 is that we can take those can lights that are 45 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:57.039 close to walls but pointing straight down where they shouldn't be, 46 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:00.280 and we can use them to point them out at 47 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:04.719 the wall and wash the wall with light. You don't 48 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:06.560 need it down on the floor, you don't need it 49 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:09.520 directly on the sofa or the thing that you're sitting on. 50 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:12.879 You don't want it there. You want it bouncing off 51 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.680 the wall. Direct it over to the wall so that 52 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:18.800 it can light up the piece of art or the 53 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:22.560 family photos, or whatever it is that's hanging light up 54 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:26.680 the fireplace brick or the stone work, there anything on 55 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:30.360 those walls that we want to feature. And so yes, 56 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:35.319 for a relatively low amount of money, you can go 57 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:38.879 and replace the trims in the recess can lights in 58 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:45.360 your home, the down trims with directional wall washing gimbal trims. 59 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:49.199 Plug them in LED. If you've got LED, now they unplug. 60 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.120 There's a universal LED connector you can plug in the 61 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:56.479 new trims, slide it up into place, and boom. Now 62 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:04.240 we're creating romantic lighting, textured lighting, layered lighting, non glared 63 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:09.560 lighting throughout your home. We've changed radically the look now, 64 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.560 maybe not one hundred percent of what we would do 65 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.479 if we had been there to help you lay out 66 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.879 those lights when they were first installed, but we can 67 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:22.160 get really really close to it. I mean, we can 68 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:26.279 get way over eighty percent better with your recess can 69 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:32.600 lights by just utilizing a gimbal trim and or a snoot. 70 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:37.199 What is a snoot? A snoot is also a lighting 71 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:40.160 trim that has a little tube on it or a 72 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.680 controlled baffle. And this in the case if we really 73 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.240 have a piece of artwork that we want to accentuate 74 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:50.000 without washing the wall around it, a snoot is what 75 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:54.439 essentially allows us to focus that light in a kind 76 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:58.000 of a spotlight form right onto the artwork without bleeding 77 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.360 to the wall around it, so that the art really 78 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:06.120 pops boom. So gimbals and snoots and baffles, oh my, yes, 79 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:12.079 this is how we transform that improperly designed but not 80 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:16.480 improperly installed, but improperly designed recess lighting on your ceiling. 81 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:18.879 And by the way, while we're at it, one detail 82 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.759 that matters immensely throughout your home when it comes to 83 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:29.920 lighting dimmers, dimmer switches on everything, just about everything. Why, 84 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.959 because the light in your home is constantly changing, the 85 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.399 light at night, the light in mid afternoon, the light 86 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:38.319 in the early morning, and your use of a space 87 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.120 is constantly changing. No more of just full on, full off. 88 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.639 That's all you get, this binary choice. It's a one 89 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:50.279 or a zero. It's just bright or it's dark. But control, 90 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:54.439 especially if we're throwing accent lighting now onto your walls. 91 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.519 Control the amount of light, bring it down so that 92 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.319 we can see it, but it's not overblowing the room. 93 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.839 Lots of control. Lighting is theater, my friend. And the 94 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:08.959 more you can get theatrical level control on your lighting, 95 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:12.519 the better your house will look at all times. Does 96 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:13.160 that make sense? 97 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:15.519 Good? All right? 98 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:20.560 Our next step is into the world of carpentry, specifically 99 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:27.399 trim carpentry, and specifically moldings, though not so much where 100 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:31.519 moldings are or where moldings go, but how they come 101 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:35.759 to an end. The ends of moldings, the ends of 102 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:38.600 base boards when a baseboard comes to the end of 103 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:41.120 a wall and doesn't just end in a corner, the 104 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:43.120 end of a crown molding when it has to be 105 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:46.680 interrupted by something in a ceiling, and so on and 106 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:51.959 so forth. How to end a molding. Well, it's probably 107 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.199 not the way it ends in your home, but we'll 108 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:55.439 talk about it right after. 109 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:00.000 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 110 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:01.519 KFI AM six forty. 111 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:06.839 Welcome home. Thanks for joining us on our fine little 112 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:11.600 program here on this beautiful beauty. Have you looked outside? 113 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:16.959 It is gorgeous outside. It's a beautiful southern California fall weekend. 114 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:24.240 It's cool, it's breezy. The air is just amazing. It's sunny. 115 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:27.839 My gosh. We're getting out in the garden and doing 116 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:32.680 some fiddling around this afternoon. Why because we can and 117 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:36.720 because we must. That's definitely what's going on today, because 118 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:38.759 we got to get out in that. I went out 119 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:41.439 this morning with Tina, went to the gym early this morning. 120 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:44.680 I went out to a little three mile walk this morning, 121 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:47.920 right as the sun was coming up. It was cold, 122 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:52.439 like well so cow cold. It was like forty something. Awesome, 123 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:56.319 It was awesome. What a great way to start the day. Anyway, 124 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:58.680 I hope you got plans to get out in this 125 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:02.160 today because it is waiting for you and it would 126 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:05.839 be a shame to miss it. Anyway, Thanks for being 127 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:10.360 on the program with us. We're talking about details that matter. 128 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.720 But also I said that we were going to go 129 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:15.480 back to the phones, and now is the time to 130 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:19.480 do just that. I want to talk to Sean. Hey, Sean, 131 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:20.920 welcome home. 132 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:26.360 Idan. I had a question my house. 133 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.160 I see, I took up vinyl flooring and I didn't 134 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:34.720 realize that it had this backing that held to the 135 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:37.200 cement floor and it didn't look like a big deal, 136 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:41.120 and I let it go for about a. 137 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.080 Month or so. It turns out it's asbestos. 138 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:47.759 And I'm finding out that homes, homes in the seventies 139 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:51.759 and eighties might have asbestos. And I walked over it 140 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:54.039 a little bit, and I walked around maybe for a month, 141 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.600 and I tracked it on my carpet up and. 142 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:58.080 Stairs in the room. 143 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.639 And now I'm under us like a Procedure five program 144 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:06.080 where they're going to charge me almost thirty thousand to 145 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.960 clean my house. And I thought, wow, does anybody know 146 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.200 about this stuff? Because all I knew about were popcorn 147 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:15.519 ceilings when it came to asbestos, and I just wondered 148 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:17.679 if you could give me some advice because it's coming up. 149 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:17.879 The the. 150 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:22.519 Abatement is coming up, and that's what's going to cost 151 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:23.559 me about thirty thousand. 152 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:31.440 All right, Well, advice number one is that have you 153 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:38.080 priced out competitively the abatement process for the home. Okay, 154 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:40.879 I can't tell you whether thirty thousand dollars is the 155 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:43.480 right I mean that's a lot of money, clearly, and 156 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.080 I know you're hurting. I feel you, man, I totally 157 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:50.039 fail you. I don't know if thirty thousand dollars is 158 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.960 the right price or the best price, or even in 159 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:57.720 the ballpark, because it varies so much home to home, 160 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:00.840 square footage, conditions, all of that kind of stuff. The 161 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:04.480 only way, like so many areas in construction, that you're 162 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.879 going to know if you're getting a square price or 163 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.320 not is whether or not you've had you know, two 164 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.600 or three companies take a look at it and all 165 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:17.159 give you pricing for it and get their input and 166 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:19.480 advice on it along the way. Then you'll know, because 167 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:23.679 then once you've got two or three qualified estimates, then 168 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:26.279 you'll know, well that one's out to lunch. These two 169 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.879 are within you know, a few couple hundred bucks of 170 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.399 each other. This is clearly you know what this thing 171 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:32.039 should cost. 172 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:35.480 And so yeah, we did that, and they were I 173 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.360 did that and they were pretty they were very low 174 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.480 compared to the others. And now they're going to go 175 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:43.399 in and they say everything that's poorous, like all my clothes, 176 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.600 everything that's poorous. So this this all also takes in 177 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:53.039 mechanical things like blenders and microwaves, refrigerator and my new 178 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:56.080 washer and dryer. Are saying all of that has to 179 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:59.600 go or or you can sign up on it and say, 180 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:01.919 I don't care if it has asbestos, and I don't 181 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.039 know what that leads to, but they're saying, yeah, everything 182 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.399 like that under this program is supposed to go. 183 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:09.600 Wow. 184 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:14.320 Yeah, Well, you know, it's a sticky wicket. I don't 185 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:20.759 want to tell you that you should, you know, not 186 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:23.480 get rid of all of that stuff or have it 187 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:25.399 dealt with all right. I don't want to be the 188 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:27.240 one to tell you that. I'm not in a position 189 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.399 and qualified to tell you that. I will tell you 190 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:34.519 this that when it comes to abatements, we do our 191 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:38.039 best to encapsulate, not abait Okay, Now, I know the 192 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:40.600 majority of the costs that you're talking about now is 193 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:44.720 in all of these poor surface objects and things like that. 194 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:47.759 I just want you to realize that the danger of 195 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:52.480 asbestos is breathing it in, Okay, it's It's not when 196 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:55.159 it just lays there and stares at you. Okay, it 197 00:11:55.320 --> 00:12:01.240 is inhalation, that's the problem. And so when asbestos is undisturbed, uh, 198 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:06.159 then when it's particular its particulates are not airborne, then 199 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:10.080 it is not a risk to anyone in any way, 200 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:14.519 shape or form. It is only as its carcinogenic effects 201 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:17.919 when it is inhaled, when it is breathed in. So 202 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.240 when you disturb it and it goes airborne, which is 203 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:23.000 why as opposed to taking it out of a lot 204 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:26.519 of houses, a lot of popcorn ceilings and or vinyl floors, 205 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:30.480 we will encapsulate it, which means cover it up, cover 206 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:34.200 it over. That's, by the way, completely legal and acceptable 207 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:38.600 in every code and every jurisdiction because the concern is 208 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:41.799 not we just need all asbestos to disappear from homes. 209 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.600 The concern is we want you protected from it. Okay. 210 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:49.360 So I mean they did tell me about that that 211 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:51.080 it's typical to encase it. 212 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:55.120 But this is already I've already taken up the vinyl. 213 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:58.120 Flooring and it had a backing that was a felt backing, 214 00:12:58.159 --> 00:12:59.159 and it looked just. 215 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:01.679 Like the cement. It was just a very thin, thin. 216 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:05.480 Felt backing that glewed down hard to the cement. And 217 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.840 they said, when you walk over it, or even if 218 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:10.120 you just leave it there, it phrays. That means it 219 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.759 goes up into the air. And they the square footage 220 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.240 is they're saying, we're talking about floors, talking about walls, 221 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.759 talking about ceilings and all that's got to be wiped down. 222 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.559 And then they truck it away in special trucks and 223 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:25.399 it's I've never heard of this, and. 224 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.879 You know it's so it hit me by it such 225 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:29.519 a surprise. 226 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:36.639 Yeah, So that's that's if it was any other thing, 227 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:39.840 I'll just tell you this. Because of the legalities surrounding it, 228 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:42.679 I hope I can communicate the essence of what I'm 229 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:46.080 trying to say without stepping over the line here. If 230 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:49.799 it was any other object, like cleaning dust out of 231 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:52.559 your house and something, I would tell those people hit 232 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:53.000 the road. 233 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:53.320 Jack. 234 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:57.000 Are you crazy? You are now telling me that somehow 235 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:01.440 magically I have tracked this onto every wall surface, every ceiling, 236 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:04.600 every bit of clothing in my closets, and then it's 237 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:12.000 all coming after me. Okay. It strains credulity to think 238 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:16.039 that that kind of exposure has happened because you have 239 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:22.000 walked a few times across your exposed kitchen floor. Okay, Now, 240 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:25.360 I am not saying that it hasn't moved around some 241 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.799 or that the kitchen floor should not be addressed. But 242 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:32.720 the reason I'm holding back, my friend, is because you know, 243 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:38.200 it's a carcinogenic substance. And I don't want to put 244 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:41.759 myself or KFI or any or you in the position 245 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:45.879 where we're making a decision that you know, based on 246 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.480 advice that I'm giving you to like, yeah, you ignore 247 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:52.360 the carcinogens in your home. You know I'm not telling 248 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:55.200 you to do that. But there has got to be 249 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:59.799 some limit to where this. I mean, asbestos is not 250 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:03.960 a live Okay, it's not baby powder either. It doesn't 251 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:08.440 just creep and crawl and get everywhere waiting to be 252 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:12.360 disturbed again. But I am not the expert in and 253 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:15.440 so these are This is my concern. This is where 254 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:18.639 you've got me up against a place where I really 255 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.919 really want to tell you that they're going way further 256 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:26.200 than what practically needs to happen. But I can't tell 257 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:30.080 you that because I don't want to put your your 258 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:33.639 health at risk by me being ignorant of the fact 259 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:37.120 that if you miss this one thing, boom there it happens. 260 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:40.679 But yeah, all I can tell you, Sean, all I 261 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:49.000 can tell you is that asbestos is not a powdery 262 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:52.759 substance that just floats everywhere all the time once you've 263 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:57.039 disturbed it. Yes, there are controlled ways of taking care 264 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:58.879 of it. Yes, you want to be careful not to 265 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:02.200 make it airborne. Yes you want to encapsulate it or 266 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:04.919 abate it so that you don't come into contact with it. 267 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:10.600 But just disturbing some of it in one area of 268 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:15.159 the house. Are we now saying that it's literally everywhere 269 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.720 and your life is in danger being in that house 270 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.759 if we don't wipe down every wall, every ceiling of. 271 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:23.519 It. 272 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:28.159 Just man, it hurts. Better safe than sorry, Okay, but 273 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:30.799 yeah it hurts, And I feel you. I feel you. 274 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.639 I just don't want to I don't want to overstretch here. 275 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:40.600 I do not give advice here that ever that is iffy. 276 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:43.879 You know, I'm always usually very very confident in what 277 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:46.519 I tell you to do when you do it, that 278 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.679 you'll at least be safe in the process. And this 279 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:52.519 is not my area of expertise. I mean, I've worked 280 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:55.240 with abatements a lot, but I am not an especimens 281 00:16:55.360 --> 00:17:01.720 abatement contractor or an asbestos expert. But man, if you 282 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:05.240 were to ask me an encapsulation or abatement of my 283 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:09.119 kitchen floor for thirty thousand dollars, I'd say that's insane. Okay, 284 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.599 But they're talking about wiping down every surface in the 285 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:17.880 entire house. That is something I've never had to send 286 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:21.400 a client through that before, and to me, it just 287 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:27.599 seems extreme. It just seems extreme. But man, I feel you. 288 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:29.599 I feel you don't know what to tell you. Man, 289 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:31.559 You've you've kind of stumped me on that one. Sean, 290 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:36.440 all right, y'all when we come back. Details that matter. 291 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:39.119 I feel bad that I can't give him more direction, 292 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:44.279 But it's a sticky wicket asbestos details that matter when 293 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:45.279 we return. 294 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:49.759 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 295 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:51.359 KFI AM six forty. 296 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:57.640 We're talking about details that matter. Details do matter in 297 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:02.680 your home. Every ask anybody the hospitality industry how much 298 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:05.880 detail matters, and they will tell you, Oh, it's the 299 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:10.680 game that is the game right there. Details how much 300 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.519 service you get a smile on a server's face, versus 301 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:20.200 you know, a frown or a grimace being greeted by name. 302 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:25.440 Just these little things. But layer upon layer upon layer, man, 303 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:29.720 they'll just change everything. They'll change everything. I can't tell 304 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:33.279 you how many times we have We've gone to like 305 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.680 a restaurant and Tina has walked away saying, I just 306 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.680 love that place. They are the nicest people there. It's like, well, 307 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:43.880 you know, we also went for the food. Well, the food, 308 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:47.240 of course was great, because it's prepared with the same 309 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:50.599 kind of detailed care as you have in the front 310 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:54.319 of house, you know, staff service. But the point is 311 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:59.240 detailing the details in life. This is the thing that 312 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:03.640 gets missed out. It was absolutely, without question overlooked when 313 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:08.400 your classic tracked home was built. There are a few 314 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:12.720 details here and there, but not many, because tracked homes 315 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:17.880 are built in you know, large strokes, broad swaths of idea. 316 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.920 And so now now that you're there, now that you've 317 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:24.240 got control, now that you've decided to make it your 318 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:27.319 place and you own this thing, or whether you're just 319 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.440 living in a condo or renting an apartment, these are 320 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:34.119 the kinds of things that, without breaking the bank, can 321 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:39.240 make a big, big difference in your daily experience of 322 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.839 this space and everybody else's as well. So there you go. 323 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:47.440 All right, back to the list. I promised you that 324 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:51.240 we would now address something. I don't know if I've 325 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:53.920 got another thing on the list that fits into this, 326 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:58.599 but nevertheless, we're going to move into the area of 327 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:04.240 finished carpentry here for moment moldings. There's probably as a 328 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:08.400 as a carpenter myself. There are very few things that 329 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:13.160 unnerve me, kind of like make my head go sideways 330 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:18.200 twitch when I see a molding that has been ended 331 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:21.599 inappropriately at the end of a wall. There are a 332 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:25.039 lot of reasons why sometimes a baseboard has to run 333 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:26.759 out and then just come to an end. And I 334 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:29.119 don't mean it runs into a thing. That's easy. You 335 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:31.079 just run it into a thing and then you cut 336 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:34.799 it as it hits the other item inside corner of 337 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:37.079 a wall or a piece of furniture or what have you. 338 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.480 But now I'm talking about these moldings that will run 339 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:44.039 and that have to just end near the end of 340 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:46.319 a wall, but not quite. They don't turn a corner, 341 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:50.799 they don't do whatever their ends are exposed. How do 342 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.480 you end a molding? All right, I'm just gonna resolve 343 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:55.440 this once and for all. Well, first of all, i'll 344 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:59.920 tell you how not to what Number one. You don't 345 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:04.240 just ninety degree end cut it, stick it up there 346 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:07.720 and let it be. No, you don't because the back 347 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.200 of a molding has a hollowed out cut in it, 348 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:13.759 and you'll see that from the side. So which leads 349 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:16.319 us to number two. You don't just ninety degree end 350 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:20.279 cut it and then use caulking like on a slant 351 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:24.279 to end out that molding. That's not right either. That's 352 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:28.640 even worse, if that's even possible, it's worse. Now, this 353 00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:31.519 is how you end a molding, and there is never 354 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:34.319 ever an excuse not to do it this way other 355 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:37.400 than somebody didn't take the time. Now, if you ran 356 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:40.200 some moldings in your house and you just didn't know, okay, 357 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:43.000 I'm going to give you that excuse. But for a 358 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:49.319 carpenter not to do this properly, it's you know, it's unforgivable. 359 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:51.440 So here's how you end a molding. You know that 360 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:55.240 when you come out around an outside corner, you make 361 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:57.680 a miter cut on a molding, right, a little forty 362 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:00.799 five degree angle, and then a forty five degree angle 363 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.200 on the next piece and they join at the corner. 364 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:07.920 Inside corners, you've got an inside miner cut outside corner, 365 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:11.160 you have an outside miner cut where the two join up. 366 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:14.559 And it's a very very lovely connection when they line 367 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:18.240 up just right, because not only does the molding just 368 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:21.680 continue whip right around the corner, but also on an 369 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:24.319 outside corner, you get to see the profile of the molding, 370 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:27.079 whatever's going on with it, whatever little details they're kind 371 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:30.279 of visible. It's a little bit of a sculpted profile 372 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:34.640 visible on that outside corner. Well, imagine that we're gonna 373 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:38.880 make an outside corner cut on our molding as we 374 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.400 have to end. It just comes to an end without 375 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:46.000 connecting to anything else. That's exactly what we do. We 376 00:22:46.039 --> 00:22:50.279 make an outside corner miter, a little forty five degree 377 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:53.160 miter cut on the end of that molding, and then 378 00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:57.599 we take another little piece of molding and we're gonna 379 00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:02.160 make another the opposite out side corner molding cut there 380 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:05.880 on that one, all right, So that as if we 381 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.279 were going to go around a corner, turning a corner, 382 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:11.799 but we're not turning a corner, we're running into the wall. 383 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:15.119 So the second piece of molding that you just cut 384 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:19.079 with that outside corner angle on it. We're going to 385 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:22.400 put that under the saw again, and we're literally now 386 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:26.839 going to make a straight end cut right down where 387 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.400 that outside angle comes to an end. I mean, it's 388 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:35.319 a tiny little sliver of molding that you end up with. 389 00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:38.759 You should, if you've cut it properly, end up with 390 00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:41.519 a tiny little sliver of molding with a forty five 391 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:46.319 degree angle on it that is only its length, is 392 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:50.839 only the width of the molding board that you're ending. 393 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:54.599 That's it. Like, how in the world am I supposed 394 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:57.039 to nail that in? If I nail it, I will crack. 395 00:23:57.119 --> 00:23:59.039 You don't nail it in. You take a little bit 396 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:01.480 of wood glue, and you put a little on the 397 00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:04.279 surface of the existing molding face and a little bit 398 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:07.519 on the surface of this tiny little piece, and you 399 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.160 shove it in there. You can use a little masking 400 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:12.720 tape temporarily to hold it in place if you need to. 401 00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:16.279