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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity

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<v Speaker 1>slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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<v Speaker 1>with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>the privilege of talking to Daniel today. Daniel's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the co hosts of the great YouTube channel Mysteries Unknown podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been wanting to talk to him for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>That is one of the shows that I like to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the I would say up and coming shows.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that one and then not so perfect Bigfoot show

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<v Speaker 1>is great, but man, I love watching them when I've

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<v Speaker 1>got the time. But Daniel, it's a pleasure chatting to

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<v Speaker 1>you today and thanks for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Jeremi, it's my pleasure. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. How's the weather up there where you're at, Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's probably the same as yours. I'm a little

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<v Speaker 2>north of you. I'm up here in Minnesota, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we're kind of going through like a cool wave and

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<v Speaker 2>then a heat wave and looks like we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get some rain tomorrow. So yeah, probably about the same

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<v Speaker 2>as you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, that's true. We're both Midwest dude, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>our stuff's pretty similar. But Man, Daniel, we've talked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit off air, and it sounds like you've had

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<v Speaker 1>some really interesting things happen on the show. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to go ahead and just toss it right

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<v Speaker 1>over to you, and you're welcome to share what you've

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<v Speaker 1>experienced over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. Well, you know, when I was twelve years old,

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in Graham, Washington's that's where I'm originally from.

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<v Speaker 2>I was born in Belgium, my dad was stationed over there,

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<v Speaker 2>got back to Washington State and that's pretty much where

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up. And we lived in Graham, Washington at

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<v Speaker 2>the time of the sighting. Like I said, I was

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<v Speaker 2>like twelve years old. This was ninety excuse me eighty four,

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<v Speaker 2>about eighty four time frame. And when we my brother

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<v Speaker 2>and I, when we first moved back with our dad,

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<v Speaker 2>he was living in like an adult like RV park,

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<v Speaker 2>trailer park, and that was more and more elderly retired people,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, there was really no one our age

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be there. My dad was able to talk

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<v Speaker 2>with the owners and they were okay with it. We

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<v Speaker 2>made ourselves kind of useful, you know. We'd go around

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<v Speaker 2>help out, you know, help people take their garbage out

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. We never caused any trouble. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad knew and realized that this was not a place

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<v Speaker 2>for us to grow up. So while we were spending

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, a spring break in Tacoma with

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<v Speaker 2>my with my aunt, my dad had already in the

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<v Speaker 2>works buying like five acres of land. And this land

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<v Speaker 2>was not very far, you know, it was up up

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<v Speaker 2>past the top of Graham Hill. I think it's Meridian.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the name of the major street. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't really remember. But when he came back, my dad

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<v Speaker 2>just drove right past this trailer park, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>this this RV park, and I what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I show you a boy something, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he goes down a ways and makes a right and

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<v Speaker 2>goes down aways another road, makes another right and goes

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<v Speaker 2>down aways another road and turns onto this long gravel road.

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<v Speaker 2>Now at the time, I thought the gravel road was

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<v Speaker 2>probably like five miles long, but it was in actuality

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<v Speaker 2>is maybe a mile and a half, maybe two miles long.

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<v Speaker 2>But this road was it was kind of like it

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<v Speaker 2>had dips in it and little rises and little straightaways

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<v Speaker 2>and then another dip and then another rise, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he goes down here and he pulls it

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<v Speaker 2>into the end of this property and lo and behold

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<v Speaker 2>there's the I'm gonna say camper. It was a fifth wheel,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's pretty much a camper. There was the camper.

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<v Speaker 2>And my dad had set this camper on this land.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd already cleared some of it. He'd built a really

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<v Speaker 2>nice deck pretty much around from the back part of

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<v Speaker 2>it around to the front part of it, just a

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<v Speaker 2>huge deck, built a shed out there, and had fastened

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<v Speaker 2>down this our camper. You know. He put the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>had it put up on blocks and had all the

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<v Speaker 2>anchor ties down and stuff like that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were like, holy Bucketsy, this is five acres of woods,

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<v Speaker 2>pine and and some other indigenous trees. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>like this, this is awesome. So we spent you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that first weekend or whatever, just running around the woods

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<v Speaker 2>having a good time. Never think anything of it. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast forward, we were coming back another time, me, my dad,

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<v Speaker 2>my brother, my dad was my dad of course, was

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<v Speaker 2>driving my our brothers in this backseat, sleeping, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>coming home and it's probably one or two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>And as we turn off onto the road we go,

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<v Speaker 2>we start going down. We go down this little dip,

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<v Speaker 2>we come back up this rise, and we came on

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<v Speaker 2>this ride. We hit this a little straightaway and I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed the some eye shine off to the right side

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<v Speaker 2>of this gravel road that we were on, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty far down, but it was still it caught

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<v Speaker 2>my attention and then I just said, Dad, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something up there on the road. I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>might watching your brights on and he's like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see us coming. You know, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>get off the road, you know. And so we go

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<v Speaker 2>back down this dip and back up this rise, and

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<v Speaker 2>we come back up this rise. Our lights, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I see this light, this this this eye shine again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a dark amber, reddish hue. And I'm like, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something right there on the side of the road.

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<v Speaker 2>If we go down this dip and come back up,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be right there. So it's weird to

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<v Speaker 2>call down the dip and come back up the rise.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad turned his brides on and he also had

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<v Speaker 2>these new foglights on that you know, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>today's driving lights. They really widen your your scope of vision, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden, our lights hit it. And

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<v Speaker 2>there she was. And when I say she one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent a female, she stood up, and Jeremiah, I honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't for the life of me, I thought she

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<v Speaker 2>was never gonna stop standing up. She was massive. She

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<v Speaker 2>turned at the waist, and that's how I knew that

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<v Speaker 2>she was a female. Saw her breast, saw her face,

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<v Speaker 2>she turned almost way she was standing up. She did

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<v Speaker 2>like a one eighty so she just kind of turned

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<v Speaker 2>her complete body around, and it wasn't like super fast,

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<v Speaker 2>like she just whipped her around, but she kind of

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<v Speaker 2>turned looked at us, and then turned and then took

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<v Speaker 2>like two steps maybe three steps, off the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the road, and it was gone into the woods right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm I'm just I'm surprised, I'm scared. And as

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<v Speaker 2>we're driving by, you know, I go, Dad, Dad, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like he just didn't say a word. He just

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<v Speaker 2>kept driving. He didn't speed up, he didn't sow down,

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<v Speaker 2>he just kept going like he didn't see it. And

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<v Speaker 2>as I looked to my to my right, I saw

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<v Speaker 2>her like squatting into the woods. And there was enough

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<v Speaker 2>light from from the way the angle the lights shined

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<v Speaker 2>out that I saw her blinker eyes twice. And so

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<v Speaker 2>my dad pulled into our property and the car was

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<v Speaker 2>not even at a complete stop. I'd already had the

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<v Speaker 2>door opening. I had my hand in my pocket taking

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<v Speaker 2>my key out, and I as soon as my dad

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<v Speaker 2>the car stopped, I was out of the car, running

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<v Speaker 2>up the steps and unlocking the door door a camper

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<v Speaker 2>and running in and I jumped into my dad's bed. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when you walked into the camper a fifth, will you

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<v Speaker 2>know you have this this hitch that you hitch up

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<v Speaker 2>to a truck. So it's kind of got like this

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<v Speaker 2>little loft area. And that's where my brother and I slept.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're looking head on at the fifth will

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<v Speaker 2>at the camper, I slept on the right hand side.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother slept on the left kind of. So my

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<v Speaker 2>brother slept on the side that was where the deck

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<v Speaker 2>was built closest to that, and I slept where the

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<v Speaker 2>shed and the woods and everything were. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>jumped in. My dad had a hide a bed. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a queen's size hide of bed. I jumped into

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<v Speaker 2>that bed and I was like, Dad, you know. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad comes in and he puts my brother up up

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<v Speaker 2>into his bed, and I'm like, Dad, what was that?

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<v Speaker 2>What was that? He's like, you know, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>that was? I go, Dad, that was a that was

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<v Speaker 2>a big foot. He's like, don't worry about it, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hey, everything's to be fine. And while I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking at me, trying to calm me down, he's

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<v Speaker 2>going into the cupboards and he's pulling you know, fruit out,

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<v Speaker 2>he's you know, other types of stuff. He goes into

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<v Speaker 2>the fridge and he pulls out you know, like grapes

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<v Speaker 2>and some vegetables and things like that. And when my

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<v Speaker 2>dad had built the deck, he put this this really

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<v Speaker 2>tall pole on one corner of the deck with like

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<v Speaker 2>a metal plate welded onto it because he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>put like a bird feeder up there. So my dad

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<v Speaker 2>loved watching birds. He would take pictures of him and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And my dad goes. He has everything, you know, gathered up.

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<v Speaker 2>He leaves the camper, goes outside. I hear him shut

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<v Speaker 2>the car door because I didn't shut my car door.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear him open up the shed. He comes back around.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a he has a ladder with him and

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<v Speaker 2>like this tube of grease or something right, I did

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<v Speaker 2>not really wasn't sure what it was. At first. He

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<v Speaker 2>goes and I see him put the ladder up, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he comes in, grabs all the food, climbs up

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<v Speaker 2>the ladder a couple of times, puts the food up there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what he does is it takes this and

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<v Speaker 2>he squirts this grease or whatever on the on this

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<v Speaker 2>rag and he as high as he could possibly get,

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<v Speaker 2>he just slowly puts grease all over this pole. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching my dad. I'm like, Dad, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing that for? He's like, that's to stop anything from

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<v Speaker 2>getting to get that food. And I go like, what,

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<v Speaker 2>like like what he is like raccoons? I go, oh, okay, okay, raccoons.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the brief second that made sense to me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for a second, it made me stop thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about what we had just seen maybe fifteen twenty minutes earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>So We're laying in bed, and as I'm laying there,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad was a smoker, and he never smoked in

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<v Speaker 2>the camper, but he's outside and I could hear him talking,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I got nosy and I kind of put

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<v Speaker 2>my ear up to the door a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hear him say something to the fact like, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw you. You know you saw us. You know

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<v Speaker 2>these are just my boys. I just want to make

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to We don't want any harm. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean any harm. Because when my dad was clearing all

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<v Speaker 2>the land, you know, he didn't clear everything. He cleared

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<v Speaker 2>enough space to where he could plant a garden and

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<v Speaker 2>build a home, because he that's what he was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>He was he was cutting some of the trees down

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<v Speaker 2>so he could build like an a frame house. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what he always wanted to build for us. But he

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<v Speaker 2>did and go in and just cut down any tree.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very selective on what he did. My dad

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<v Speaker 2>was raised in Alaska. Family were fishermen and laggers, so

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<v Speaker 2>my dad had a really deep respect for mother nature

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<v Speaker 2>and animals. Whenever he hunted, he always said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you think you know, we thank this animal

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<v Speaker 2>for giving up itself, you know, so con feed us

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<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. You know, he did. He was very very mindful.

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<v Speaker 2>And so my dad comes in. I jumped back into bed.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear him coming to the door. I jump back

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<v Speaker 2>into the bed and I go, Dad, well who are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking to He's like, oh, I was praying. I go,

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<v Speaker 2>why didn't hear you say? Amen? So my dad just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of goes amen. You know, we're laying in bed,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'm like, Dad, you know what. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not talk about it. You know, everything's gonna be fine,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry about it. You know, they're more scared of

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<v Speaker 2>us than we're them. You know, he's getting you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Dad's trying to calm down his son, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's working a little bit, but I'm still, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still a little frightened. I don't know how long

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<v Speaker 2>I was awake, but I woke up hearing this loud,

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<v Speaker 2>like this loud creak. And when I say creak, I

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<v Speaker 2>meant I hear something step up on the deck. And

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<v Speaker 2>whatever had stepped up on this deck, the boards which

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<v Speaker 2>was growning. It was like a massive amount of weight

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<v Speaker 2>was stepping. With each stepping, you heard him crack and groan.

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<v Speaker 2>And and about that time, where I slept on my

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<v Speaker 2>dad's bed, I might against this camp of wall, and

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<v Speaker 2>I heard and felt something run by, and I look

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<v Speaker 2>over my dad and my dad's you know, I've getting

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<v Speaker 2>ready say something. My dad puts, you know, puts his

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<v Speaker 2>finger to his lips. He's like, tell me to be quiet,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm my dad is the one out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>he like shakes his head, you know, and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at him and he puts up three fingers and I go,

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<v Speaker 2>there's three out there, and he's like yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he did mouths yes. And about that time, I hear

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<v Speaker 2>this vocalization coming from outside, you know, like it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the samurai chatter. I'm not gonna try to

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<v Speaker 2>imitate it because I'm gonna butcher it. But so I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of heard that and I looked at my dad,

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad'sill, chill, still telling me to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be quiet. And that's when I noticed my dad had

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<v Speaker 2>a gun resting on his chest. And I'm like, I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, now, I'm now as as a fifty you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty two year old almost fifty three year old man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, Number one, my dad's handgun was not going

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<v Speaker 2>to stop one of these things. Number Two, if they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get it, all he had to do was

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<v Speaker 2>rip that door right off that camper. There's no stop

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<v Speaker 2>in one of these things if they wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>at me, right, so, I must have dozed off. I

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<v Speaker 2>wake up. We had the the curtain on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the campra door. It was cracked a little bit. Sunlight

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<v Speaker 2>was shining through, and as it woke me up, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I jumped up real quick, jumped over. My dad flew

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<v Speaker 2>open the door, and I'm looking around and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>and I did something I knew I wasn't supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did it anyway. I climbed up on the

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<v Speaker 2>on the banister. You know, the the the railing of

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<v Speaker 2>the of the deck climbed up there where I could

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<v Speaker 2>see higher up on and all the food was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single thing my dad proke there was gone. I

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<v Speaker 2>looked around, there was nothing on the ground. Nothing. I

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<v Speaker 2>go and I look at the pole and you could

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<v Speaker 2>see where something had grabbed the pole. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>massive hand and you could tell a massive hand had

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed this pole. And then it looked like from as

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<v Speaker 2>high up as it could reach was almost to the

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<v Speaker 2>very very top of where this little metal platform was.

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<v Speaker 2>There was like a line from there all the way

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<v Speaker 2>down where something had taken its finger and just rubbed

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<v Speaker 2>it all the way down. And it must have got

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of grease or whatever it was on its finger,

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<v Speaker 2>but you could tell where it just ran his finger down.

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<v Speaker 2>So I run in the house, record on his camper

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<v Speaker 2>real quick. I'm my dad, Dad, Dad, all the food's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>All the food's gone. And he's like, what, I go,

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<v Speaker 2>all the food's gone. They took the food. They took

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<v Speaker 2>the food. And you know, my dad told me to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of keep it down. So my dad goes out

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<v Speaker 2>looks when we look around. I don't recall ever seeing

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<v Speaker 2>any any prints around that at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Time big for society. Who will be right back after

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<v Speaker 1>these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>And so my dad would go out walking around, look

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<v Speaker 2>over at the shed and stuff, don't see anything. About

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<v Speaker 2>that time, my little brother comes out and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hear us talk and he's like, you know, oh, what

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<v Speaker 2>a you gotta talking about? I said there was a

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<v Speaker 2>big foot, and my dad got mad because I, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>said bigfoot. My brother's like, oh, he goes, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen a couple of small ones hanging around, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when we play our music, and like what he's like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he goes whenever we bring the radio out and we

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<v Speaker 2>play music, you would play tape or whatever. While out

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<v Speaker 2>there playing, I see two small ones. They go to

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<v Speaker 2>the tree line over there, and he's pointing over to

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<v Speaker 2>an area where my dad already cleared and in that

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<v Speaker 2>area we'd built a tree fort. And my brother goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they like to hang out over there and listen to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the music, and he goes. I remember going

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<v Speaker 2>over to the tree fort one day and I saw

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<v Speaker 2>something jump out of the tree fort and run off

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<v Speaker 2>into the woods. And I thought it was just a

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<v Speaker 2>little boy, but it was it was too big. To

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<v Speaker 2>be a little boy. So that was that signing that

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<v Speaker 2>I had now previously before that siding this happened probably,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, well maybe February timeframe when this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a storm come through and the thunder lightning rain.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was just it was a terrible thunderstorm

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<v Speaker 2>and for some reason, I just could not fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm laying on my back and this huge bang

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<v Speaker 2>of thunder hits and this bright flash of lightning, and

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<v Speaker 2>no sooner did that lightning disappear. It felt like our

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<v Speaker 2>camper was being pushed over on its side. Something hit

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<v Speaker 2>the camper super, super hard enough where it felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it was tipping the camper onto its side. And when

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<v Speaker 2>it fell back down, I immediately pulled open this little curtain,

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<v Speaker 2>little shade that we had, and I looked out. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I looked out, I saw this this flash of

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<v Speaker 2>lightning hit and it lit up the whole area. And

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<v Speaker 2>I saw something walking, not running, but walking, and walked

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<v Speaker 2>underneath this tree where this branch was hanging out, and

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<v Speaker 2>walked off into the woods. And you know, I told

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<v Speaker 2>my dad, you know, my brother was asleep. My dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I woke my dad up my dad says, we'll look

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, and I'm my dad, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>GD bigfoot. He's like, stop saying that. I go, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a GD bigfoot. He's like, stop saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>I go. Okay, it was a bigfoot. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>very adamant that's what I saw, but again I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>really one hundred percent certain at that time. And again

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<v Speaker 2>this happened before I saw my sighting. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>went out the next morning and we're looking around and

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<v Speaker 2>it had rained, so people could have just taken a

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<v Speaker 2>fire hose and just spread the whole ground. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>much rain it looked like it fell. Turn around, we

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<v Speaker 2>looked at the camper and about six and a half

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<v Speaker 2>maybe seven feet up, there was a huge dent in

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<v Speaker 2>the side of our camper where like something had ran

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<v Speaker 2>as hard as it could and like put shoulder into

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<v Speaker 2>it or use both hands to try to push it over.

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<v Speaker 2>It hit the camper so hard that some of the

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<v Speaker 2>anchor straps were pulled completely out of the ground. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of them cement blocks that were the camper was on

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<v Speaker 2>had been crushed, had been you know, broken, and things.

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<v Speaker 2>And my brother comes out of here's this talking and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, you know what what happened? What you know?

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are saying something hit the camp and my

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<v Speaker 2>dad goes a branch hit the Camper's that go okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So that was like the very first you know at

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<v Speaker 2>that time that I understood, you know, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I saw, This is what you know, this is what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel. That is just absolutely wild for context for the listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>So this takes place in Pierce County, which, if we're

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<v Speaker 1>going by the BFRO I believe has the highest number

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<v Speaker 1>of publicly available Pierce County has its gig Harbor all

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<v Speaker 1>the way over to Mount Rainier National Park and you're

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<v Speaker 1>there kind of in the middle of it. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of action going on, a ton of action.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a few questions, Vitoria, definitely go ahead, No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. Remind me again, So the initial sighting where

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<v Speaker 1>there was the female bigfoot by the side of the road,

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<v Speaker 1>how far away from your camper was that again?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe two hundred and fifty yards maybe, man, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you said you were about twelve years old,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's been a while, but I mean, do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember any any details of what you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to see. I mean you said you saw the face.

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<v Speaker 2>For a little bit, correct, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well. She

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<v Speaker 2>had a like a slight conical head huge bridge high bridge,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, bridge brow, a flat nose. Her skin was black.

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<v Speaker 2>Her color of her hair, I want to say, was

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<v Speaker 2>like a dark like charcoal almost black. Yeah, that's I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't show me her teeth. She had ears kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like almost like a chimp kind of but not.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, dude, she was massive, man, she was just huge.

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<v Speaker 2>She was probably a good seven and a half feet tall,

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<v Speaker 2>just massive. I had to guess weight. I'm saying probably

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred and fifty five hundred pounds. Maybe she was massive.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you be able to estimate if you were looking

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<v Speaker 1>at how wide across the shoulders.

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<v Speaker 2>Were, hmmm, probably four and a half maybe four and

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<v Speaker 2>a half feet wide at the shoulders, maybe five. She

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<v Speaker 2>was big, man, She was big. And the funny thing

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<v Speaker 2>is is I honestly believe that there was a family.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, some people may say, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't travel in families. Yes they do. This was

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<v Speaker 2>a family unit. And the reason I say that is

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<v Speaker 2>the one that hit the camper I want to say,

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00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:30.839
<v Speaker 2>was like an adolescent male. You're like maybe like a

416
00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:35.720
<v Speaker 2>late teens, early twenties. Then there was two juveniles my

417
00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:39.039
<v Speaker 2>brother had seen. I never saw him, and then there

418
00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:42.240
<v Speaker 2>was one big male that I just caught glimpses of.

419
00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:44.920
<v Speaker 2>It was never something, oh, look there he is, you know,

420
00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:49.960
<v Speaker 2>but what he was kind of like in the area,

421
00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:52.839
<v Speaker 2>and you knew what he was in the area because

422
00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:55.119
<v Speaker 2>I just got this feeling like there had been plenty

423
00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:56.559
<v Speaker 2>times my brother and I were out and had our

424
00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:58.279
<v Speaker 2>tree fort hanging out and my brother just to look

425
00:22:58.279 --> 00:22:59.400
<v Speaker 2>at him, He's like, we got to go back to

426
00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:02.319
<v Speaker 2>the house. I'm like, yeah, we gotta go. It just

427
00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the whole air just changed. Now when the female was around,

428
00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:09.880
<v Speaker 2>never had that. When that like the the attle or

429
00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the i'll call him the teenage or the young adult,

430
00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:17.839
<v Speaker 2>the young adult never really felt that. But when the

431
00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:21.200
<v Speaker 2>big male was around, things just changed. And I remember

432
00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:23.119
<v Speaker 2>at times I looked out the window of our three

433
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.440
<v Speaker 2>four and I'd see something move back behind a tree,

434
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.519
<v Speaker 2>and what I saw was a bigger than the female,

435
00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:33.640
<v Speaker 2>massive by the female, And I don't understand why he

436
00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>would hide behind some of these trees because he was

437
00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:40.039
<v Speaker 2>wider than these trees. He easily had to be five

438
00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:43.160
<v Speaker 2>and a half almost six feet wide across. I mean, well,

439
00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I might be exaggerating that, but I'm telling you, Jeremiah,

440
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:51.440
<v Speaker 2>this dude was massive. But he was never aggressive towards me.

441
00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I never encountered him being aggressive. He just I think

442
00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:57.039
<v Speaker 2>he was just around just to make sure we didn't

443
00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:59.319
<v Speaker 2>we didn't screw off and do something.

444
00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Stupid, you know, right, Yeah, absolutely.

445
00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:06.680
<v Speaker 2>And I think him. I think the father and the

446
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:09.480
<v Speaker 2>mother the female that I saw, I think they kept

447
00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:12.400
<v Speaker 2>that young adult in check because if they weren't around,

448
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:13.920
<v Speaker 2>there's no doubt in my mind. I want to say

449
00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:16.559
<v Speaker 2>that young adult would easily have just been tormenting us

450
00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:17.279
<v Speaker 2>the entire time.

451
00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I don't get to talk to a lot of

452
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.839
<v Speaker 1>people about female big foot sightings. Was it similar to

453
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Patty at all? Or was it a completely different thing?

454
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to say similar. I want to say probably

455
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:38.000
<v Speaker 2>about seventy five maybe eighty five percent similar to Patty.

456
00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Like the girth, because Patty's she was girthy. You know,

457
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:48.920
<v Speaker 2>she had matt and so did this one. She had mass.

458
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.519
<v Speaker 2>And again it wasn't the first time that I saw her.

459
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:53.200
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like the only time I saw her. My

460
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>dad loved us, you know. He helped me and my

461
00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:01.640
<v Speaker 2>brother build a two seater go car that we you know,

462
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:04.680
<v Speaker 2>we had off like these off road wheels on, and

463
00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:07.400
<v Speaker 2>we would we would just drive all over the place,

464
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.599
<v Speaker 2>right And there'd be times where I'd be flying by

465
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.160
<v Speaker 2>and my brother he'd look behind. He goes, she's looking

466
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:18.440
<v Speaker 2>at us, and I whip around real quick. I kind

467
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:20.359
<v Speaker 2>of snapped my head around. I'd see her, just catch

468
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:22.079
<v Speaker 2>a glimpse of her. She would like look out of

469
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:27.519
<v Speaker 2>the woods, just to see what we were doing. But

470
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:31.680
<v Speaker 2>never never met I mean, we never had rocks or

471
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:34.720
<v Speaker 2>sticks or anything thrown at us while we were there.

472
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:38.039
<v Speaker 2>We did hear you know, we did hear whoops, We

473
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:43.200
<v Speaker 2>did hear whistles. I remember we heard this owl one time. Bobby,

474
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>did you hear My little brother's name was Bobby, and

475
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Bobby, did you hear that owl? He's like, man,

476
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:49.799
<v Speaker 2>that owl that doesn't sound like an owl. But you know,

477
00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:52.559
<v Speaker 2>we heard things like that in the area. I mean,

478
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.880
<v Speaker 2>there were porcupine in the area, there were coyotes in

479
00:25:55.960 --> 00:26:01.079
<v Speaker 2>the area, there were deer in the area, rabbit, squirrels,

480
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:03.920
<v Speaker 2>that type of stuff. There's also a couple of houses

481
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:06.319
<v Speaker 2>in the area, but they weren't super close to us,

482
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:08.640
<v Speaker 2>so we had to like go through the woods as

483
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 2>a shortcut, or go back down the gravel road then

484
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.440
<v Speaker 2>turn off one of these little tinier roads to go

485
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 2>to this you know, people's house. And I remember one

486
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.240
<v Speaker 2>day I was goofing off in the woods and I

487
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:25.480
<v Speaker 2>ran into this kid about might say, maybe maybe nine

488
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.799
<v Speaker 2>or ten years old, okay, and I'm like, Oh, where

489
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:31.359
<v Speaker 2>do you live. He's like, oh, I'll live right over here.

490
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:33.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, my dad knows you guys moving in over here,

491
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and you want to come over to my house. I'm like, yeah,

492
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:37.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I said, real quick, I got to

493
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.079
<v Speaker 2>go tell my dad, and he goes, I'll come with you.

494
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>So we go running over to my house.

495
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:46.200
<v Speaker 4>And my dad dad I found a friend. He lives

496
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:47.519
<v Speaker 4>over here through the woods, and I was like, my

497
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.599
<v Speaker 4>Dad's like, oh, that's great. You know, just be careful

498
00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:51.200
<v Speaker 4>when you're out there, you know, don't do thing dumb,

499
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:55.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, don't be stupid. And so, you know, i'd

500
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:57.039
<v Speaker 4>go over there quite a bit of times.

501
00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.519
<v Speaker 2>And one thing that I thought was really super cool

502
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.200
<v Speaker 2>about his house is that his dad had this giant

503
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>rabbit hutch. This rabbit hutch was mass we could have

504
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>been like a little fort like seriously, And what was

505
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 2>really cool about this hutch is that the front of

506
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 2>it had like these double doors that had this locked.

507
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.319
<v Speaker 2>He had to slide like a bolt. You slide the

508
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>bolt over and then and then lock it down. And

509
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>then you had two other locking mechanisms that you lifted,

510
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>like the front part of the roof of the hutch

511
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.119
<v Speaker 2>up and it would like lock into place. So if

512
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:35.839
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to go in there and clean everything out,

513
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 2>you had easy access, right. Well. I remember one day

514
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I come over to my friends and me and my

515
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:50.240
<v Speaker 2>brother we come running up the driveway and I see

516
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 2>his dad come walking around from from the back of

517
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 2>the house and he's just livid. He's like, I don't

518
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>get it. Why would someone do this? So we're thinking

519
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:04.160
<v Speaker 2>that our friend is out there in the backyard. So

520
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 2>we go run alongside the house while his dad goes

521
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:15.839
<v Speaker 2>into the garage and Jeremiah something had manipulated the locks,

522
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:23.640
<v Speaker 2>ripped the doors off, and killed every single rabbit who

523
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 2>And when I say killed them, I remember his dad

524
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:37.079
<v Speaker 2>distinctively saying they're all here, but why and when he

525
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 2>asked that question, this is why he asked that question.

526
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Some of them are ripped apart. Some of them just

527
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>had their heads ripped off. He had like twenty rabbits,

528
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.279
<v Speaker 2>thirty rabbits maybe in there, and all the rabbits were

529
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>accounted for, but they were just all heads popped off,

530
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>ripped in half, you know, either side, you know, like

531
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 2>grabbed from the head in the bottom and just pulled apart,

532
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:05.279
<v Speaker 2>or grab by the back legs and ripped in half

533
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 2>that way. Just all of them mutilated and just left

534
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>there like someone was doing it just to have a

535
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>good time. And that's probably the scariest thing that's that

536
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.319
<v Speaker 2>happened to that location. Like I said, it was probably

537
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe a quarter of a mile half a mile from

538
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.599
<v Speaker 2>where we were to the road something like that, and

539
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.039
<v Speaker 2>we would have to walk up to the to the

540
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.920
<v Speaker 2>main road where there was a street light that's where

541
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 2>our bus picked us up. And there'd be times we'd

542
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:35.079
<v Speaker 2>have to get up, like four o'clock in the morning,

543
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.920
<v Speaker 2>four thirty to get up to the bus stop. Because

544
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.079
<v Speaker 2>the bus cat came around like a five point fifteen

545
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>and this is a rural area, so it had a

546
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.119
<v Speaker 2>big route and so by the time we got to

547
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>school it was like seven thirty, so we had like

548
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>a two hour bus ride sometimes. And I remember pitch black, darkest, darkest.

549
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Can be big for society. Who will be right back

550
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 1>after these messages?

551
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 2>And we were not walking down that gravel road. We

552
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 2>were running down that gravel road. And there every times

553
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.079
<v Speaker 2>where we knew and we heard something pacing us on

554
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>either side of us until we got up to where

555
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the edge of that light was. As soon as we

556
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>walked into how that where that light shigne was from

557
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:37.279
<v Speaker 2>that street light, that's when they stopped and then we'd

558
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.119
<v Speaker 2>get on the bus. So yeah, but we only stayed

559
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 2>in that property for about a year, maybe a little

560
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:45.759
<v Speaker 2>over a year. My dad had been involved in a

561
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>very really, really bad car accident. He was almost killed,

562
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 2>so we had to move back to Tacoma and move

563
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 2>in with my aunt and uncle. And it was almost

564
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a full year by the time we went back out

565
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>to that property. You know, everything was all locked up

566
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. And when we went there just to grab

567
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:09.279
<v Speaker 2>the rest of our stuff, because it was in October

568
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:11.039
<v Speaker 2>that my dad had that accident, so it was probably

569
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>not in not a year, I'm sorry, not a year.

570
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>It's probably that next spring. I walked around the camper

571
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>and it looked like something was looking even how you

572
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>cut your hands over your eyes on the side of

573
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.960
<v Speaker 2>your eyes to try to look into something. Yeah, it

574
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>looks like on every single one of the windows you

575
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 2>saw that print and you could see where like a

576
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.079
<v Speaker 2>nose was pushed up against like something was trying to

577
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 2>look in the windows, and especially the windows where my

578
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 2>brother and ie beds were, because that was a good

579
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe seven feet off the ground and there's eyes looking

580
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.759
<v Speaker 2>and trying to look through the curtain that was there.

581
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 2>But every window had multiple like prints like that.

582
00:31:54.799 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, that was yeah, that was in the

583
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:04.359
<v Speaker 1>early to mid eighties. You were saying eighty.

584
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Four, right, yeah, early, yeah, yeah, eighty four.

585
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Did I at any point did your dad ever try

586
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 1>to talk to the cops about what was going on?

587
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Or is kind of like we can handle it ourselves.

588
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 2>Or well, seems like I said, my dad was raised

589
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>in Alaska, so my dad's head had encountered with things

590
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 2>up in Alaska. To the day that he died. He

591
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>still swears, you know, he swore to the day that

592
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 2>he died that he saw werewolf. My dad encountered the

593
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Kushta Kaye on two occasions while he was up in Alaska.

594
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>So my dad, you know, my dad believed, you know

595
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.480
<v Speaker 2>that as long as we weren't doing anything aggressive or

596
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>we weren't doing anything disrespectful, that they wouldn't really mess

597
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.240
<v Speaker 2>with this. And there was times when my dad would

598
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.559
<v Speaker 2>put other things up like smoke salmon. He'd put that

599
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.079
<v Speaker 2>up there, and he'd always do the same thing. He'd

600
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>always grease that pole so nothing else can climb up

601
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 2>that pole and get it, and it'd be gone. And

602
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.000
<v Speaker 2>there'd be times where we'd have like, well, my brother

603
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>found a dad squirrel sitting up there. There would be

604
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>times where we'd have like rocks up there, or a marble.

605
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.279
<v Speaker 2>There's a marble up there for some reason. So berries,

606
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 2>there'd be huckleberries up there, blackberries, raspberries, Yeah, just sitting

607
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:21.599
<v Speaker 2>up there. Wow.

608
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>So there was maybe a little bit of a gifting

609
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>situation going on there in a way.

610
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably if my brother said at times he'd thrown

611
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 2>like a ball because he knew they were sitting he

612
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 2>knew the juveniles were sitting out in the woods watching us.

613
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.559
<v Speaker 2>So my brother would be out there goofing off and

614
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 2>he would live on purpose throw a ball out there

615
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>and we'd never see it again, never see it again.

616
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh I bet not. You would definitely not see it again.

617
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever talk to your dad about this when

618
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you were an adult or when you were older?

619
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, oh see this, this is this is the

620
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 2>thing with my dad, my dad, my dad believe my

621
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 2>dad know, my dad knew, I mean, and we would

622
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:13.880
<v Speaker 2>talk about it and it would be the same thing.

623
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, Daniel, you know, you know what you saw,

624
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 2>you know what you saw, you know. And and then

625
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I got to asking him because you know, I start

626
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 2>having these these memories also had come back to me

627
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and I remember like when I was like seven,

628
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:39.639
<v Speaker 2>seven or eight, my dad, my dad loved the hunt

629
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.159
<v Speaker 2>and there was this place up around I want to

630
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 2>say north northeast of Aberdeen and we called it the

631
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.559
<v Speaker 2>hunting camp. Right. Well, my dad we went to this

632
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 2>hunting camp and we went and we weren't hunting. Well

633
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't hunting, my dad was hunting. And he goes,

634
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:03.679
<v Speaker 2>you want to go hunt with me? And I'm like sure.

635
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 2>He goes, well, we got to get up early. We're

636
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna sit in the deer stand, and I'm like, okay,

637
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:09.559
<v Speaker 2>And that was unusual for my dad. So my dad

638
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 2>never really hunted from a deer stand. He'd always be

639
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 2>on the ground and he would normally track, you know,

640
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 2>what he wanted to hunt and then do what, you know,

641
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>do what he did. And I remember we went up

642
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.119
<v Speaker 2>had camp. The next day we went out and he goes,

643
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>he come up in this, you know, come up here.

644
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.039
<v Speaker 2>This is our deer stand. And the deer stand overlooked

645
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.880
<v Speaker 2>this trail, but there was also a couple of game

646
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>trails that came that came off of it went underneath

647
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>the deer stand and then up into the woods behind

648
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:46.599
<v Speaker 2>the deer stand, and my dad goes at you know,

649
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:49.800
<v Speaker 2>at night there they come out of the woods from here,

650
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 2>they do what they do down here, and then when

651
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 2>it starts getting light again, they're going to come back

652
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 2>up this path, this deer you know, this this this

653
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.239
<v Speaker 2>animal path or whatever, and they'll go back up into

654
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 2>the woods and they'll bed down for the day because

655
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>then they know people were out and about. They don't

656
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's where they're gonna lay low. Because I

657
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.039
<v Speaker 2>had asked him, why are we not looking at the woods,

658
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>he goes, and he gave me that reason. So he

659
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:15.880
<v Speaker 2>gets me up in the deer stand. You know, we

660
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 2>have a picks his rifle, hoists his rifle up with

661
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 2>with a rope and we're sitting up in there, and

662
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 2>it was it was a homemade deer stands big enough

663
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>for two people. And my dad starts looking through his

664
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>little back his little napsacks, a little backpack. He's like, oh,

665
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I forgot something. We were baby, I don't know, half

666
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.639
<v Speaker 2>a mile away from the camp and he's like, stay here,

667
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>it'll be fine. I'm gonna run down to the camp

668
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>get what I need and I'll be right back up.

669
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, no big deal. I'm like seven, eight

670
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 2>years old. I'm not scared of anything. I'm not worried

671
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>about anything. Right, So even in later life, I did

672
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:02.559
<v Speaker 2>this when I went hunting. I started dozing off. Now

673
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting comfortable and I've got my left leg stretched

674
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 2>out and it's kind of hanging off to the side

675
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of the deer stand, and I feel

676
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>this tug on my boot and it kind of kind

677
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.320
<v Speaker 2>of wakes me up. And it's not quite light yet,

678
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 2>and so I look and my boot's untied and I'm

679
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 2>looking around, and I'm like, oh man, I must have twitched,

680
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 2>and you know what, my dad might be messing with me.

681
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 2>So I reached down, I tie my boot up again,

682
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'm watching, you know, looking around. All sudden I

683
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 2>start nodding off again, and just as I get ready off, boom,

684
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel my tug on my boot again, and I

685
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.320
<v Speaker 2>look down and my boots untied again, and I'm like, Dad,

686
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>knock it off, you know. And so I go and

687
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I go and I tie my boot up again, and

688
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>now this time I'm watching my boot. I'm like, Okay,

689
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna see if it's my dad messed with me,

690
00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 2>because maybe, you know, he saw me nod no or not,

691
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 2>saw me sleep and he snuck up and now he's

692
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 2>messing with me. Well, hear this noise off to the

693
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.760
<v Speaker 2>right of me, and when I look over to see

694
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.760
<v Speaker 2>what it was, and I'm looking, I fear fill an

695
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 2>out tug at my boot and my boot is untied,

696
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:19.880
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm I'm mad, but I'm also I'm scared.

697
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 2>And about that time, I see my dad walking up

698
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:27.360
<v Speaker 2>the path and I'm my dad, real funny, real funny.

699
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 2>He's like, what are you talking about. I go, Dad,

700
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.039
<v Speaker 2>you'll tied my boot. He's like, son, I didn't untie

701
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 2>your boot. I go, Dad, you dig you'll tie my boot?

702
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Three times? And he's like, son, I'm coming up from

703
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.519
<v Speaker 2>the camp. There's no way in this whole thing transpired

704
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:48.239
<v Speaker 2>about thirty forty five minutes maybe tops right, And I'm like, Dad,

705
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:49.880
<v Speaker 2>you untie my boot. I know you did. I know

706
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.440
<v Speaker 2>it was you. You snuck around. He goes, son, I didn't,

707
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 2>I go, Dad, you just untied it. You made a noise.

708
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 2>He goes where I go over there, and so he's okay,

709
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:03.119
<v Speaker 2>he's stay put. So he goes and he starts looking

710
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 2>around and I'm watching him. He's doing like a circle pattern,

711
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Speaker 2>like a search. And he gets up to the woods

712
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 2>behind the stand and he kneels down. He looks at something,

713
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 2>and then I see my dad immediately take his rifle

714
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 2>and put his rifle to ready. He like grabs his

715
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 2>strap and he pulls it and tied into his shoulder.

716
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 2>And my dad's a Vietnam Vet. My dad was a hunter,

717
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 2>first Airborne. He was an EOD specialist. He was a

718
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 2>tunnel rat, did a lot of point, you know, walking

719
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.559
<v Speaker 2>point when they were on patrol. So my dad was

720
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:37.039
<v Speaker 2>very very observative things, just super super observant of everything

721
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.800
<v Speaker 2>around him. And I see him bring his rifle to

722
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:43.679
<v Speaker 2>the ready and now he's scanning left or right and

723
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 2>then back right to left, and he's like, he's like,

724
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 2>he's like, Daniel, get out of the tree right now,

725
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:50.920
<v Speaker 2>get out of the stand and head back down towards

726
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 2>the camp right now. I'm my dad was going on.

727
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>He's like, just go do it now. He's I look

728
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 2>real quick and he's backing up, but he's still facing

729
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the tree line and he goes, just go. He goes,

730
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll be right behind you, and he goes, don't walk,

731
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.079
<v Speaker 2>you need to run run down to the camp. So

732
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm with everything I got, I'm a hauling button back

733
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 2>down and I stop every so often, and I see

734
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:14.480
<v Speaker 2>my dad he's coming back. He'd run, he'd stop and

735
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.639
<v Speaker 2>turn around, he'd scan and he take off runt and

736
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:18.920
<v Speaker 2>he's like, just go go go. Well, we get into

737
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the camp and we see my uncle come out of

738
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 2>the tent and he's like, Darryl. He goes, what are

739
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.559
<v Speaker 2>you doing? He's like, what do you mean? He goes,

740
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 2>why are you messing with danielized up in the stand.

741
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:29.960
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I don't really talk about it. I just

742
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 2>came back from my stand. He goes. He goes, it's

743
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>getting too warm out here. You know, nothing, nothing's going

744
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 2>to be nothing's going to be moving around. So so

745
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 2>he's like, okay, well we just need to go. So

746
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:44.679
<v Speaker 2>they packed up, they packed up the camp and we left.

747
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Now to get to this camp, you had to drive

748
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 2>like an hour and a half two hours, and he

749
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:51.679
<v Speaker 2>had to hike in for like about another hour, I

750
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.599
<v Speaker 2>want to say. And the second time we went to

751
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:58.360
<v Speaker 2>the camp, we had my dad, my uncle who's also

752
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Vietnam VET, his neighbor or friend named Frenchie, who was

753
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>also a Vietnam Vet, two of his neighbors, so he

754
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.400
<v Speaker 2>had five adults, and he had me and my brother,

755
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.599
<v Speaker 2>and then each one of the neighbors brought one of

756
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:13.880
<v Speaker 2>their sons, so you had four kids and five adults.

757
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 2>We had this giant canvas tent I was go an

758
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:20.039
<v Speaker 2>army tent that you could sleep like ten fifteen people

759
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 2>in comfortably, and normally you'd have like a like a

760
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.639
<v Speaker 2>little woodbirding stove in the middle of this. That's how

761
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 2>big this tent was. You had to bring everything in

762
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 2>on like deer sleds or whatever. So everybody was carrying

763
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>backpacks whatever they could. The kids didn't really carry a lot.

764
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 2>The adults pulled all these you know, these sleds. They

765
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:41.920
<v Speaker 2>had everything packed on. They're real neat went in there,

766
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.360
<v Speaker 2>set everything up. You know. My uncle was like, hey,

767
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 2>who wants to use some fishing? You know, we were

768
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 2>fishing down in the stream that was close to the

769
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.280
<v Speaker 2>hunting camp. You could see, you know, it was like

770
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 2>a rocky kind of like a small pebble, but sandy

771
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>like beach, and the the part of the stream was

772
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.199
<v Speaker 2>right in front was really slow movie. So it was

773
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 2>a good place to go swimming or fishing if you

774
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted to. My uncle say, hed he wanted to shoot

775
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 2>shoot some guns. That's where I first shot a Rugo

776
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Super black Hawk forty four magnum. I was nine years

777
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 2>old when that happened. It took us about fifteen minutes

778
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.000
<v Speaker 2>to find the gun because it flipped over my head

779
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.679
<v Speaker 2>when I shot it. Amazing time. They were shooting twenty

780
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 2>twos and just having a good time. But when we

781
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.760
<v Speaker 2>shot the twenty two's, we heard this loud like yell,

782
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:28.760
<v Speaker 2>like I thought it was like a bear roar way

783
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 2>off in the distance right, and didn't think anything of it. So,

784
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, we caught fish, we ate, you know, we

785
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:38.639
<v Speaker 2>cleaned up all of our food stuffs were in bags

786
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and hanging up in a tree, probably about fifteen feet

787
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.119
<v Speaker 2>up into a tree over a limb. And you know,

788
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.480
<v Speaker 2>my dad had my uncle and my dad had tied

789
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:50.639
<v Speaker 2>him off real well. And my uncle was a in

790
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.400
<v Speaker 2>the navy and he rode on those patrol boats up

791
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 2>and down the Macon Delta. He was like the front gunner.

792
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 2>So they had like twin fifty cows or twin sixties

793
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 2>or something, so that's what his his job was. So

794
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>again this is another person who's really really observant, has

795
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 2>to keen eye looking for stuff. French. She was a psycho,

796
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.440
<v Speaker 2>but he was also a Vietnam vett. And these guys,

797
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>we had three bona fide warriors with us. We didn't

798
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 2>really worry about nothing. So the first night everything went by,

799
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, pretty cool, no big deal. Hurt some something

800
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.719
<v Speaker 2>moving around around the camp and we're like, you know,

801
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:29.639
<v Speaker 2>what was that. I'm thinking it's a bear, No big deal.

802
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Second day goes out, you know, they see some tracks

803
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 2>and stuff I see him talking about. I'm not thinking

804
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.039
<v Speaker 2>anything about I think what I see their bear tracks,

805
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.119
<v Speaker 2>No big deal. So, you know, we're goofing off again

806
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:42.199
<v Speaker 2>the next you know that that second day we're supposed

807
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:43.559
<v Speaker 2>to be outre for like four or five days. We're

808
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.920
<v Speaker 2>out there goofing off, fish and swimming, shooting bb you know,

809
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 2>twenty twos again. And this time my dad and my

810
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 2>uncle they split us up and they wanted to just

811
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.719
<v Speaker 2>show us the land. Hey, you know, if you guys

812
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.320
<v Speaker 2>ever lost, you find something like this, you know you

813
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.079
<v Speaker 2>can do this with it. You can do here, or

814
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.840
<v Speaker 2>if you get lost, you stay put where you are,

815
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 2>you know you can use this to make a noise.

816
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:06.159
<v Speaker 2>They're they're trying to show some type of survivals. They

817
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 2>want us to have a good time, but they want

818
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:12.119
<v Speaker 2>us to learn something. And so a second day we're shooting.

819
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>We're shooting again, and this time we hear not like

820
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.880
<v Speaker 2>a bear roar, but we hear like a howl, but

821
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:21.519
<v Speaker 2>like with a scream attached to it. And it was

822
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>closer this time. It wasn't often it is that this

823
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 2>is closer. So I noticed the adults looking around and

824
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:32.639
<v Speaker 2>they're like, hey, you guys are getting late. You know,

825
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 2>let's have some dinner. So we ate some dinner again,

826
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 2>cleaned up, put everything up, and we're laying down. And

827
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:48.559
<v Speaker 2>how we all slept was the two neighbors and Frenchy

828
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.599
<v Speaker 2>were sleeping. If you're looking directly at the tent, they're

829
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 2>sleeping on the left hand side of the tent, and

830
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.639
<v Speaker 2>the two neighbors, the two neighbors their sons are sleeping

831
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 2>with them. And then it's me. It's my dad, me,

832
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:04.960
<v Speaker 2>my brother, and my uncle on the other side on

833
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 2>the right hand side. And now we hear a lot

834
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:16.599
<v Speaker 2>of movement outside. We hear footsteps, we hear scuffling. We

835
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.639
<v Speaker 2>hear something getting into some of the stuff that we

836
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Speaker 2>have left out. It's nothing like food or anything. It's

837
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:26.960
<v Speaker 2>just like pans and and you know, chairs or whatnot.

838
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 2>And the stuff's moving around. We hear like like murmuring,

839
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:35.360
<v Speaker 2>like a you know, something like like talking. And then

840
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 2>we hear something and I can fill it with each

841
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:43.159
<v Speaker 2>step walking around the tent. And when I look up,

842
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I see my dad as wide awake, and he's got

843
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>his rifle. He had had Marlon Lever Action thirty thirty rifle.

844
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Frenchie was up. The other two guys were up, and

845
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>my uncle were up, and they were all carrying either

846
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I had a handgun, cal handgun or a rifle. And

847
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching my dad and my dad is following whatever's

848
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:11.119
<v Speaker 2>walking around the tent as he's as he's going by,

849
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 2>he's following it with his with his rifle. Frenching and

850
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 2>my uncle are sitting in the middle of the tent,

851
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:19.800
<v Speaker 2>one's face in the front flap and one's face in

852
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.039
<v Speaker 2>the back flap, and if anything was going to come

853
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>through that they were in trouble because those two were

854
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:24.880
<v Speaker 2>unloaded on them.

855
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Right big for society who would be right back after

856
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 1>these messages.

857
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:48.639
<v Speaker 2>The other boys are sleeping, and I'm wondering what's going on,

858
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.119
<v Speaker 2>So I go to ask my dad a question. I'm

859
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.280
<v Speaker 2>trying to whisper to him, and about that time I

860
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.400
<v Speaker 2>hear something run by. But as it ran by, it

861
00:46:56.599 --> 00:47:05.199
<v Speaker 2>sounded like claws raked across the whole side of the

862
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.360
<v Speaker 2>canvas tent and then over on the other side of

863
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.519
<v Speaker 2>the campas tip like. So it ran around, holding his

864
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 2>left arm out and his hand out and just raking

865
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.360
<v Speaker 2>its claws all the way around the tent. And then

866
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:20.199
<v Speaker 2>after it did that. It was silent, like there was

867
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:25.199
<v Speaker 2>nothing else going on. It just got as silent as

868
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:30.800
<v Speaker 2>a morgue again. I could. I'm doing everything I can

869
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 2>not to start screaming. My dad is holding me. He's

870
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.039
<v Speaker 2>got his hand over my mouth, so I wouldn't scream.

871
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't go to sleep. For the rest of the night,

872
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 2>it seemed like it was forever until sunlight came out.

873
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Birds started chirping. I watched Frenchie and my dad and

874
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.199
<v Speaker 2>my uncle or my French she and my uncle and

875
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 2>the other two guys leave, and all of a sudden,

876
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I hear my uncle Odean, you gotta come out here

877
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and see this. And I beat my dad outside the

878
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:03.639
<v Speaker 2>tent because if my dad has gets to see something cool,

879
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to see something cool, right. So I go

880
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:11.119
<v Speaker 2>running out and our food bags, there are three of them.

881
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>They were all taken out of the tree. They were open,

882
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 2>and anything that was not a can was gone completely gone.

883
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Chairs were messed up. We found stuff down by the river.

884
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm seeing giant like human sized footprints, probably seventeen

885
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 2>eighteen nineteen inches long, all over the place, and my

886
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Dad's like, let's go get the boys up. Let's pack up.

887
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.840
<v Speaker 2>We're getting out of here. So as we're getting everything ready,

888
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>we hear this scream that came maybe one hundred and

889
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 2>fifty two hundred yards from the side one of the sides.

890
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.639
<v Speaker 2>If I'm thinking, if I remember the right hand side

891
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 2>north southeast west, I couldn't. If I'm looking at the

892
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>at the lake or at the stream, it's to our

893
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 2>right hand side, the side where the tent is. It's

894
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.719
<v Speaker 2>like about one hundred and fifty two hundred yards away,

895
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 2>and it is low, and you feel it come through

896
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:17.280
<v Speaker 2>the trees the scream. No one bothered to pack anything

897
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:23.599
<v Speaker 2>up neatly. They just threw things on the sleds. People

898
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>were grabbing packs that didn't belong to them. And now

899
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:29.960
<v Speaker 2>we're running, we're taking off. We're going back up again.

900
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 2>This is like an hour hike to this camping spot,

901
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 2>to where we parked our trucks. It was my dad's truck,

902
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:46.360
<v Speaker 2>my uncle's truck, and Frenchy's truck. And when we started

903
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:51.199
<v Speaker 2>taking off, it was Frenchy in the front, then the

904
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 2>two dads, then the four kids, and then my uncle

905
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Darryl and my dad bringing up the rear. And as

906
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 2>we're going they're like you guys got to go faster.

907
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:02.599
<v Speaker 2>You guys gotta go faster. Well, my little brother and

908
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:06.519
<v Speaker 2>one of the other boys were younger than us. They

909
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:08.760
<v Speaker 2>wound up getting put on one of the sleds and

910
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:12.559
<v Speaker 2>the two the two other adults are just pulling my brother,

911
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.719
<v Speaker 2>my brother, and one of their sons as fast as

912
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.320
<v Speaker 2>they can. I've got my little brother's backpack in the

913
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:21.360
<v Speaker 2>front of me. I've got my backpack on the back

914
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.280
<v Speaker 2>of me, and I'm running with everything I got. I

915
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:25.880
<v Speaker 2>think I'm carrying something else. I don't really recall what

916
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:29.840
<v Speaker 2>it was, but we're making crazy time. But now you

917
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 2>hear something tearing through the trees, and you can't really

918
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:35.360
<v Speaker 2>see it, but you can hear. All of a sudden,

919
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I hear my dad. My dad yells, I've got one

920
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.119
<v Speaker 2>over here on the left, and then I hear my

921
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:42.239
<v Speaker 2>uncle say, I just saw one over here on the right.

922
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:48.880
<v Speaker 2>And these guys are Jeremiah. These are two Vietnam vets.

923
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I've seen two sides of my uncle and two sides

924
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:55.840
<v Speaker 2>of my dad. I've seen the Happy Go Lucky, the

925
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.559
<v Speaker 2>joy you know, the Joys, you know guys, the Jokers,

926
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:05.119
<v Speaker 2>And that day I saw Dead Series, I saw two

927
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:09.679
<v Speaker 2>guys that were ready to throw down and just inflict

928
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:12.400
<v Speaker 2>a massive amount of pain and damage on whatever was

929
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:18.519
<v Speaker 2>after they went right back to Vietnam, and they're like,

930
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:22.039
<v Speaker 2>move and we're running as fast as we can. Now

931
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.320
<v Speaker 2>they're not saying, you know, they're not saying what they're seeing.

932
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:26.960
<v Speaker 2>They're just saying, I've got one on the left, I

933
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 2>got one on the right. We get running. We come

934
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.679
<v Speaker 2>up and I can see where we've got to go,

935
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:34.599
<v Speaker 2>up this little hill and then up to the street,

936
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:39.079
<v Speaker 2>up to the road. This is logging road. We go up.

937
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.599
<v Speaker 2>They're already throwing things and trucks as they go. Whatever

938
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.639
<v Speaker 2>truck is closest is getting something thrown into the back

939
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:51.039
<v Speaker 2>of it. My brother runs, he gets in the middle truck.

940
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it was my uncle's truck. I jump into

941
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.360
<v Speaker 2>the back of my dad's truck. Everybody is just jumping

942
00:51:57.400 --> 00:51:59.719
<v Speaker 2>in the closest vehicle they can get into. That isn't

943
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:04.639
<v Speaker 2>all be full again the old you pull down the visor,

944
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 2>the keys fall out. That's what was the scenario there.

945
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Guys are getting in the trucks, are starting them up.

946
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 2>My uncle all of a sudden he just throws the

947
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.960
<v Speaker 2>sled that he had threw it up over. It almost

948
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 2>landed on me. Because I'm in the bed of the truck.

949
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I see my dad run by. He gets in the

950
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 2>bed of the truck that's in the middle, I believe

951
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 2>my uncle's truck. My uncle Daryl jumps in the back

952
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.239
<v Speaker 2>of our truck, the truck that I'm in, and they

953
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:33.519
<v Speaker 2>just say go, go, go, and they start taking off

954
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:36.719
<v Speaker 2>and they are going like a bat out of hell.

955
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 2>When I'm sorry to cuss, that's what they were doing.

956
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.840
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, my uncle just starts unmoving. Bang

957
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.960
<v Speaker 2>bang bang bang. He's got a lever action as well.

958
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:48.320
<v Speaker 2>My dad boom boom boom, he's just rocking and rolling.

959
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 2>About that time, I look up and I see this

960
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.199
<v Speaker 2>branch that was or this stick or whatever, and it

961
00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:01.159
<v Speaker 2>was probably eight feet long and maybe three inches around.

962
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:05.400
<v Speaker 2>It came selling from the woods through the air, and

963
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:10.159
<v Speaker 2>it almost hit the the front end of my dad's truck.

964
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:12.719
<v Speaker 2>It barely missed a front the front end of my

965
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.800
<v Speaker 2>dad's truck. And they we just gassed it and we

966
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:18.199
<v Speaker 2>never went back to the hunting camp.

967
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Holy macrel that and that. So that happened years before.

968
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the other goodness, But again, I didn't really know

969
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 2>what was. I didn't know what it was. I didn't

970
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:36.079
<v Speaker 2>know that could have been a And again, to this day,

971
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm still not saying what was messing with my boot

972
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and what placed us out of the woods. I'm not

973
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:46.039
<v Speaker 2>here to tell you that one was a big foot.

974
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not because I didn't see it. I saw tracks,

975
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I heard noises. I've heard I've seen tracks and heard

976
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:58.000
<v Speaker 2>noises that if you look at any video on YouTube

977
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:01.440
<v Speaker 2>or listen to any podcast, it's all conclusive with what

978
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:06.119
<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch. But I didn't see it. I'm not saying

979
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:06.880
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is.

980
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:11.920
<v Speaker 1>And then when you were twelve, you actually saw it.

981
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I know what I saw exactly. I know what I saw.

982
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, dude, So having a good I'm sure

983
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 1>that you you've had this internal thought over the years.

984
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:29.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you think it is that we're looking at

985
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:33.760
<v Speaker 1>when we look at something like what you saw when

986
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:38.199
<v Speaker 1>you're twelve, do you think it's an animal or or

987
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>some kind of human relative or.

988
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:48.760
<v Speaker 2>You know now that I mean now that I'm I'm

989
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:53.719
<v Speaker 2>a co host on a podcast, and I've researched so

990
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>many stories that have heard so many stories and on

991
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:58.400
<v Speaker 2>my own before I was a co host on the

992
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:05.639
<v Speaker 2>podcast Searching and Watching Things. You know one my host

993
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Josh him and I completely disagree on what these things are.

994
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I know for a fact one in my heart that

995
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:18.480
<v Speaker 2>what I've seen in experience was one hundred percent flesh

996
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:22.920
<v Speaker 2>and blood. To put a label, is it type of

997
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:29.159
<v Speaker 2>a relic human? Is it an undiscovered you know, North

998
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:34.400
<v Speaker 2>American ape? I don't know. I want to tend more

999
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:39.880
<v Speaker 2>towards maybe a hybrid, maybe more of a relic humanoid

1000
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 2>human because the intelligence is there. And I'm not saying

1001
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:47.119
<v Speaker 2>apes and chimps are not intelligent, because I mean, I mean,

1002
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:52.039
<v Speaker 2>it's it's been documented that chimpanzees will use weapons. Chimpanzees

1003
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 2>use will use tools, you know, they use things to

1004
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.199
<v Speaker 2>manipulate certain things. So the intelligence is still there. With

1005
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:03.440
<v Speaker 2>a primate, I just really can't. I can't. It's in it,

1006
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:06.239
<v Speaker 2>It's in its own boss, really is it? Is it

1007
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 2>off the same tree as a human? Maybe?

1008
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Daniel one thing for sure. Whatever it is,

1009
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's intense and it is very smart. And I've not

1010
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:25.360
<v Speaker 1>had a visual yet, but the screen, We've got a

1011
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:28.880
<v Speaker 1>big storm outside, the roar in the roar scream. I

1012
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>experienced that in Oregon, way out in the woods. I

1013
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 1>know what you're talking about. And dude, it's a smart animal.

1014
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is, it's I personally think it's a some

1015
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of physical creature that can do a lot of

1016
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff that science can't explain yet, and who knows where

1017
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that's going to lead. Let's let's talk about Mysteries Unknown

1018
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:59.559
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. Sure, so you're your co host

1019
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 1>with John it's also a great dude, have there been

1020
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:11.119
<v Speaker 1>any really interesting accounts that you that come to mind

1021
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 1>when you think of that? I mean, you've done multiple

1022
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:17.280
<v Speaker 1>episodes and you've got already quite a following over there.

1023
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:21.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a YouTube channel. Mystery is Unknown, And are there

1024
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 1>any any accounts that that stick out to you among

1025
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the episodes that you've done so far?

1026
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, there there's there's actually quite a few that

1027
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:36.559
<v Speaker 2>read me dumbfounded, you know, And I won't say because

1028
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I never experienced it, And it's it's really odd that

1029
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're just picking up a lot of traffic

1030
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:46.239
<v Speaker 2>with dog Man right now, which I'll be honest with you,

1031
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that is. I think I tend

1032
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:52.000
<v Speaker 2>to agree with the Josh. More about this is that

1033
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.840
<v Speaker 2>they're evil. They have no good intention. I've heard way

1034
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.599
<v Speaker 2>too many stories about them. I don't think i've ever

1035
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:03.079
<v Speaker 2>seen one. I've had an a which I can't I

1036
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:07.079
<v Speaker 2>can't roll it out. I was up in the up

1037
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.679
<v Speaker 2>in Michigan and my wife and I were coming home

1038
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and we were just we were just west of Escanaba,

1039
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:20.719
<v Speaker 2>like just hardly out of town, and it was probably

1040
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.159
<v Speaker 2>one or two in the morning, was super, super foggy,

1041
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:30.199
<v Speaker 2>and I turned my driving lights on, like my fog

1042
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 2>lights on, and I see something moving from the right

1043
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:38.320
<v Speaker 2>side of the road, like not quick, just slowly walking

1044
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:43.199
<v Speaker 2>across the street. And I kind of slowed down and

1045
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:49.320
<v Speaker 2>my lights hit it, and Jeremiah, this was the biggest,

1046
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:59.039
<v Speaker 2>darkest wolf I have ever seen in my life. I

1047
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.159
<v Speaker 2>have never seen a wolf this big in my life.

1048
00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:06.000
<v Speaker 2>If I would have driven, if i'd have drove, excuse,

1049
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I would have drove my truck up to this wolf.

1050
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:10.840
<v Speaker 2>And it just stood there and looked at me. It

1051
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 2>very well could arrested its chin on the hood of

1052
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 2>my truck. And I drive. I drive a four wheel

1053
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:22.960
<v Speaker 2>drive twenty fourteen Chevy S ten Crew cab Z seventy

1054
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:27.800
<v Speaker 2>one miles, all right, And there's no doubt in my

1055
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:31.159
<v Speaker 2>mind if if I would have pulled right to that wolf,

1056
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:33.679
<v Speaker 2>he would have put his chin up and rested his

1057
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:38.440
<v Speaker 2>chin and would have been looking right at me with

1058
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.679
<v Speaker 2>his with his with his head on the hood of

1059
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:42.960
<v Speaker 2>my truck. And then he just kind of stopped. So

1060
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:46.719
<v Speaker 2>I slowed down and I almost came to stop, and

1061
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:50.480
<v Speaker 2>he kind of just very slowly kind of slowed down,

1062
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 2>and then he kind of looked at me and he

1063
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:57.119
<v Speaker 2>just kept walking straight, just kept walking to the left

1064
00:59:57.679 --> 00:59:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and just kept his eye on me, and then just

1065
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.639
<v Speaker 2>peered off into the woods. Now I didn't think anything

1066
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:08.119
<v Speaker 2>about this, so I went on Google Maps, probably three

1067
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:11.480
<v Speaker 2>or four months ago, and I know exactly where I

1068
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:18.760
<v Speaker 2>saw this. I saw this wolf, and I looked at

1069
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:21.840
<v Speaker 2>the Google Maps, and I'll be darned if there was

1070
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.800
<v Speaker 2>not a cemetery where this thing was coming out of

1071
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Man and it just walked across the street and off

1072
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:34.280
<v Speaker 2>into the woods, and I couldn't get out of there

1073
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:37.880
<v Speaker 2>fast enough. So you ask me if there's anything any

1074
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:42.639
<v Speaker 2>any episodes that stand out, and it's our dog Man episodes.

1075
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean they are. We just had one recently posted

1076
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:50.239
<v Speaker 2>up there or this guy to this day, he shot

1077
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:53.559
<v Speaker 2>one that looked like a fox when he was out

1078
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:57.960
<v Speaker 2>hunting as a kid, and he said, he saw this fox,

1079
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:01.639
<v Speaker 2>he raised his rifle or his his shotgun, and in

1080
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:06.320
<v Speaker 2>his mind he heard don't and then he shot, and

1081
01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:08.000
<v Speaker 2>then he heard shoot me.

1082
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1083
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:36.000
<v Speaker 2>WHOA. And he says, to this day, this dog man

1084
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:41.519
<v Speaker 2>is following him wherever he goes. This dog man has

1085
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:45.840
<v Speaker 2>has used mind speak, as he describes it, and has

1086
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:50.039
<v Speaker 2>told him when it is given the okay to do so,

1087
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:55.719
<v Speaker 2>it's going to kill him, the man said the dog

1088
01:01:55.800 --> 01:02:00.440
<v Speaker 2>man man. The dog man told this guy, when I'm

1089
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:03.480
<v Speaker 2>given the okay, I'm going to kill you.

1090
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm bro that okay. One that that stuff freaks me out.

1091
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:23.079
<v Speaker 1>So the dog man stuff is freaky to me. That

1092
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:26.880
<v Speaker 1>mind speaks stuff to me is even more freaky because

1093
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:33.679
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. Who's to say, you can't prove that

1094
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.239
<v Speaker 1>it's dog man or it's Bigfoot. And I know I'm

1095
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:40.199
<v Speaker 1>going to get flak for this, but it's like, dude,

1096
01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:47.159
<v Speaker 1>I think, I think. I don't know what I think yet, Daniel,

1097
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And that stuff scares me to death,

1098
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.119
<v Speaker 1>because what if it's not Bigfoot, what if it's not

1099
01:02:55.239 --> 01:02:57.079
<v Speaker 1>dog Man, what if it's something else? You know what

1100
01:02:57.119 --> 01:02:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

1101
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Stands out You're saying, well, let me ask you. Do

1102
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:03.360
<v Speaker 2>you believe an infrasound?

1103
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, I do.

1104
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I do as well. And I've been thinking about it

1105
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:11.440
<v Speaker 2>as i've been talking to you, and I'm gonna go

1106
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:14.199
<v Speaker 2>ahead and let you in on the last experience that

1107
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:20.679
<v Speaker 2>I had. All I'm gonna say is it happened in

1108
01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Shelby County, Tennessee. It happened in ninety two. I was

1109
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:30.840
<v Speaker 2>home on leave from Germany. I'm an Air Force veteran.

1110
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I was Air Force Security Police officer. And my brother,

1111
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:47.320
<v Speaker 2>my brother, my brother was this is my best friend,

1112
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:54.519
<v Speaker 2>my absolute You know, you grow up and you have

1113
01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:56.800
<v Speaker 2>friends and say, yeah, that guy's my best friend, or

1114
01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I still haven't gotten over his death. And he passed

1115
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:08.320
<v Speaker 2>away in twenty sixteen. So he graduated high school in

1116
01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:13.960
<v Speaker 2>ninety two, and our grandfather had just passed away, And

1117
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:16.760
<v Speaker 2>so I came home on a burnt sea leave and

1118
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to surprise him that I was coming home.

1119
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:24.559
<v Speaker 2>One thing we like to do, we loved just hanging

1120
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 2>out with each other. It didn't matter. I'd get in

1121
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.559
<v Speaker 2>my car, he'd get in his car, you know, whichever

1122
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:35.679
<v Speaker 2>whoever wanted to drive, and we would just go. And

1123
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:37.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you all over the South, him and I

1124
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:41.559
<v Speaker 2>We've been all over the South just to go out

1125
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and drive. Didn't matter. We'd pull inside the road and

1126
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 2>we'd sleep. We'd have enough money, we'd get a little

1127
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:51.519
<v Speaker 2>small hotel room and we'd just rack out and then

1128
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:53.480
<v Speaker 2>we'd just go exploring around. It didn't matter. We'd be

1129
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:56.360
<v Speaker 2>gone sometimes for weekends at a time, you know, with he,

1130
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:58.920
<v Speaker 2>like on a Friday, we'd be home. On a Sunday night,

1131
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:03.079
<v Speaker 2>we want to go camp. And it's something we did

1132
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:05.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot when we were little. And he said, hey,

1133
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:08.440
<v Speaker 2>let's go to this one spot. I'm like, okay, yeah, sure,

1134
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:11.639
<v Speaker 2>not a problem. And the spot butts up against the

1135
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Mississippi River. So you know, we get a little packs

1136
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and you know, our canteens, and you know, we had

1137
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:25.400
<v Speaker 2>like our little two person tents. Now, you know, he

1138
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:29.960
<v Speaker 2>was a big boy, six one six ' two about

1139
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.639
<v Speaker 2>three point fifteen, you know, and I'm like five nine,

1140
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:38.280
<v Speaker 2>like one eighty and so a two man tent, you know,

1141
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:41.840
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't do. So we had this four man tent, which really,

1142
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:43.639
<v Speaker 2>with the size of both of us in there was

1143
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:45.519
<v Speaker 2>actually a two man tent. What do you think about

1144
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.920
<v Speaker 2>with our sleeping bags and stuff. So we were packing

1145
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:53.360
<v Speaker 2>pretty light. This was late May, early June, so we

1146
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:55.199
<v Speaker 2>were packing pretty light. We didn't really have to worry

1147
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:58.760
<v Speaker 2>about staying warm because you know, down south it's it

1148
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:02.559
<v Speaker 2>gets pretty warm. And so we go and we park.

1149
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:05.280
<v Speaker 2>There's like a visitor center there. So we go and park,

1150
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:11.800
<v Speaker 2>and he's driving his seventy six Lincoln Continental, baby blue

1151
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.079
<v Speaker 2>with a white top. He called it the stink and Lincoln.

1152
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Then we go and there's whereas we park, we start

1153
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:23.840
<v Speaker 2>walking down this road and there's a path that goes

1154
01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:26.559
<v Speaker 2>off into the woods. So we take the path and

1155
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:28.760
<v Speaker 2>then he's like, well, hey, let's let's go this way.

1156
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Let's go off this path, and he goes, I know,

1157
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:34.239
<v Speaker 2>there's an area over here, further down, almost right on

1158
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the river. It's got a nice sandbar pretty close to it.

1159
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:39.360
<v Speaker 2>You know. I'm like, hey, yeah, let's go, let's do it.

1160
01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:44.039
<v Speaker 2>So we take off and we're probably walking maybe about

1161
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:47.079
<v Speaker 2>an hour, and he's like, man, I gotta go to

1162
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom. And so he stops and he starts going

1163
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:56.239
<v Speaker 2>to the bathroom and I hear this whistle and I

1164
01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:58.960
<v Speaker 2>going to ask hi if he heard that. He goes, man,

1165
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:01.079
<v Speaker 2>what are you whistling? He goes, what do you like?

1166
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Go bro, wasn't I didn't whistle? And so he finishes

1167
01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:06.559
<v Speaker 2>up and we start going down and down towards again,

1168
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:08.639
<v Speaker 2>and also he just stops. He says, did you hear that?

1169
01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:11.800
<v Speaker 2>And I go, I go, know, what, what what do

1170
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:13.480
<v Speaker 2>you mean? Did you hear that? And I go know,

1171
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:18.639
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, I hear someone walking. Now, if you

1172
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.800
<v Speaker 2>if spending time in the woods, you know what a

1173
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:25.320
<v Speaker 2>squirrel sounds like. You know, you know what a deer

1174
01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:28.079
<v Speaker 2>sounds like. You know, you know what these sounds are.

1175
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 2>You know what a four legged animal sounds like. You

1176
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.920
<v Speaker 2>know what a two legged person or animal sounds like.

1177
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:39.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's definitely bipedal. And he's like, man, I don't

1178
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.280
<v Speaker 2>have a good feeling. I let's get out of here.

1179
01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:43.679
<v Speaker 2>Let's get out of here. I'm like, I'm like, okay,

1180
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:46.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, So we turn around, we started walking back

1181
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:48.679
<v Speaker 2>says man, we got to go now. It's gonna be

1182
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:49.920
<v Speaker 2>dark by the time we get back to the car.

1183
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:52.800
<v Speaker 2>So because let's just go. So we turn around, we

1184
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:54.320
<v Speaker 2>start heading back, and well, I got to go to

1185
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:56.280
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom. So I start to go to the bathroom

1186
01:07:57.519 --> 01:08:00.679
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just getting ready to start and he, out

1187
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:03.079
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere just pulls me like out of the way,

1188
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:08.039
<v Speaker 2>and this stick or branch comes sailing through and hits

1189
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:12.119
<v Speaker 2>the tree right where my head would have been. And

1190
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:13.880
<v Speaker 2>he's like, dude, we gotta go. And he goes, I

1191
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:15.559
<v Speaker 2>just saw something, Like what do you mean? He goes,

1192
01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:17.520
<v Speaker 2>he just saw something peek around from that tree over there,

1193
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, let's go, man. So we start going

1194
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:25.760
<v Speaker 2>and we're huffinged and just out of nowhere, it's just

1195
01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:29.239
<v Speaker 2>like he just like stops and he puts his hand

1196
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:30.880
<v Speaker 2>on a tree. He's like, man, I don't feel good,

1197
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:35.119
<v Speaker 2>and it almost buckled into his knees, Like he just

1198
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:37.239
<v Speaker 2>almost went to his knees, like, man, I don't feel

1199
01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Guys to here, man, he get a drink of water. Here,

1200
01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:42.000
<v Speaker 2>drink some water. So he's trying to get some water

1201
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:44.239
<v Speaker 2>and he's trying to get his composure with himself. He's like, man,

1202
01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling you know. He goes, man, I just don't

1203
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:48.399
<v Speaker 2>feel guys, feels sick and I go here, Man, here,

1204
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:50.119
<v Speaker 2>drink some more water. He goes, man, I got a headache.

1205
01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:53.159
<v Speaker 2>And I go here. I sit here, just take some

1206
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:56.199
<v Speaker 2>deep breaths. Here, drink some water. So he drink some water.

1207
01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:58.319
<v Speaker 2>He's like, Okay, we gotta go. We gotta go. So

1208
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I start going. All of a sudden, I get that.

1209
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I get hit and I'm like, man, I said, whatever

1210
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:06.319
<v Speaker 2>you just went through, you just gave it to me.

1211
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:10.760
<v Speaker 2>And I started feeling really nauseous. It's so much that

1212
01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:13.439
<v Speaker 2>I actually went down to a knee and I'm like, man,

1213
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel that. And then the headache hit me

1214
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:18.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, bro, I go I can't get my bearings,

1215
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:20.760
<v Speaker 2>you know. And he's like, get up, get up, we

1216
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:22.359
<v Speaker 2>gotta go. We gotta go. I just saw something again.

1217
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I just saw something again. And we start moving and

1218
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:29.880
<v Speaker 2>we're moving, we're hauling, but we come through this trail

1219
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.640
<v Speaker 2>and we see the main trail. Now we know, once

1220
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:35.239
<v Speaker 2>we hit this main trail, we're not far away. We're

1221
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:37.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe one hundred and fifty yards two hundred yards to

1222
01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:44.399
<v Speaker 2>the main asphalt road. So we start going and my

1223
01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:49.600
<v Speaker 2>brother is gassed. He is he's just gassed. And I'm

1224
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:51.359
<v Speaker 2>like come on, man, come on, come on, he goes, Man,

1225
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:53.319
<v Speaker 2>you're in better shape than me. You just go. I said, oh,

1226
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.600
<v Speaker 2>come on, let's go, let's go. So we get up

1227
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:59.800
<v Speaker 2>to the main road and I'm facing where our car is,

1228
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:02.520
<v Speaker 2>and I've got the keys to his car too, to

1229
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:07.319
<v Speaker 2>his car, and I'm looking you look down the road

1230
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:09.199
<v Speaker 2>and it's got like a bend in the road that

1231
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:12.199
<v Speaker 2>goes to the right. And he's looking at me, and

1232
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<v Speaker 2>he's looking at you know, the road behind me, and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, bro, I just saw across the street. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna cry. And he's like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>just go, just go. Yeh, he goes, I can't go anymore. Man,

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01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:40.239
<v Speaker 2>He goes, I can't go. I'm gassed. And I go, man,

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01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:43.159
<v Speaker 2>come on, let's go. Let's go, and he goes. He goes, no,

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01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:46.760
<v Speaker 2>just he goes, tell mom my lover. He goes, just

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01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:48.479
<v Speaker 2>go get out of here. I know you'll be able

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01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:52.720
<v Speaker 2>to get to the car before me. And I slapped

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01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:56.439
<v Speaker 2>him as hard as I could, and I'm like, man, no,

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01:10:56.720 --> 01:11:00.199
<v Speaker 2>you take off. Go give me your knife. You know.

1243
01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I had a straight edge, almost like a k bar knife,

1244
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:06.520
<v Speaker 2>and he had a really large lock blade, and I

1245
01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:09.000
<v Speaker 2>grabbed his knife from him. I said, I got this.

1246
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, go, I'll catch up with you. Just go.

1247
01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I know I can catch up to you. And so

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01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.239
<v Speaker 2>he takes off at a dead run, and I'm standing

1249
01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:21.800
<v Speaker 2>there and I'm like, come on, let's go, let's go.

1250
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:23.680
<v Speaker 2>You want some of this, Let's go. And I'm sure

1251
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying other things, but i can't recall everything. And

1252
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I was saying, but I know that's the effect, the

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01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:29.359
<v Speaker 2>fact that I was saying. I was like, I'm like,

1254
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:32.640
<v Speaker 2>let's go. You know you're not going to get my

1255
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:35.840
<v Speaker 2>little brother, you know. And I hear my brother go,

1256
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:37.680
<v Speaker 2>come on, come on, come on, and I look and

1257
01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:40.359
<v Speaker 2>he's just getting ready to go around the bend. So

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01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I take off at a dead sprint. And when I'm

1259
01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:45.479
<v Speaker 2>running as harder and as fast as I can, I

1260
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:50.000
<v Speaker 2>hear something like a freight train just bulldozing right through

1261
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the woods. It's right on my right hand side. I mean,

1262
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:57.359
<v Speaker 2>it is moving, and I go, Bobby, go go go. Well,

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01:11:57.399 --> 01:12:01.680
<v Speaker 2>he gets up to the car and I try to

1264
01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:04.720
<v Speaker 2>dukes some hazard across the hood of the car. I

1265
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:07.159
<v Speaker 2>don't land the I don't I don't stick the landing.

1266
01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I land on my back. The backpack I had on

1267
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:13.159
<v Speaker 2>saved me because it didn't I didn't knock any of

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01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:15.119
<v Speaker 2>the air out of me. I jumped back up, was

1269
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:18.039
<v Speaker 2>able to get the key in, hit the unlocked button.

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01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:21.319
<v Speaker 2>My brother jumps in and I put it in. I

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01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:23.000
<v Speaker 2>started the car. I put it a verse that I'm

1272
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:27.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm rolling and he's like, go, go go. It's right there.

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01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:28.880
<v Speaker 2>It's right there. I can see it's in the it's

1274
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:31.239
<v Speaker 2>in the trees. It's chasing it. It's right there, right there.

1275
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.560
<v Speaker 2>And my brother's like, come on, please go faster, go faster.

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01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:37.680
<v Speaker 2>He's like, Daniel, just go, just go. And I just

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01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:40.720
<v Speaker 2>mash the gas as hard as I can and the

1278
01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:44.000
<v Speaker 2>engine kicks in and we start taking off. He's like,

1279
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it's still, it's right there, it's right with us. And

1280
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:52.079
<v Speaker 2>we come up to a t and I locked the brakes.

1281
01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I cranked the wheel to the to the left. We

1282
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:58.079
<v Speaker 2>fishtail out and I just take off and that's the

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01:12:58.199 --> 01:12:59.319
<v Speaker 2>last time we were in that area.

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01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. Wow, I'm sorry. Damn, I'm sorry you

1285
01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:13.880
<v Speaker 1>lost your brother. You can tell you guys, had you

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01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.159
<v Speaker 1>had a special special connection.

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01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:31.720
<v Speaker 2>H m hm oh man, he would he should call

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01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:35.640
<v Speaker 2>me so many patch he would be he would be

1289
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:40.640
<v Speaker 2>clown to be so bad right now, the baby white crying,

1290
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm missing.

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01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'll see him again someday, man.

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01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh I know, yeah, I know I will. But yeah,

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01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:58.239
<v Speaker 2>that was that was the that's that's pretty much the

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01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.399
<v Speaker 2>last time I've ever been deep in He would like that.

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01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:03.279
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, I was going to ask if if this

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01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:08.279
<v Speaker 1>is a thing where you know now that you're you're

1297
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:12.720
<v Speaker 1>getting into the show with with Josh and in your start,

1298
01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, you're you go deep with with researching different things,

1299
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:19.199
<v Speaker 1>if if you've gotten to the point where you start

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01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to go into it, it's not a thing for you.

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01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:28.039
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like, yeah, you know, it's it's it's a

1302
01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:29.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of times when I'm doing research, I've got to

1303
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:31.920
<v Speaker 2>stop and just walk away from it for a little

1304
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:37.600
<v Speaker 2>bit because it brings it back, you know, and then

1305
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:39.800
<v Speaker 2>it just makes me take, you know, stock of my

1306
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:43.319
<v Speaker 2>life and and you know, I've got three grand babies now,

1307
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:46.640
<v Speaker 2>and you know, three kids and a beautiful wife, and

1308
01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:50.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't go out and do the crazy

1309
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:55.680
<v Speaker 2>things like I used to. I used to just go

1310
01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:59.560
<v Speaker 2>for days, sometimes weeks off into the woods, and just

1311
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:03.680
<v Speaker 2>do my own thing, you know. Yeah, And I just

1312
01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I just I just don't. I just don't. You know.

1313
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:12.680
<v Speaker 2>It's I'm more hyper alert, more hyper aware of my surroundings.

1314
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't pigeonhole myself into certain things. I don't.

1315
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I avoid areas and situations at all possible. I carry

1316
01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:22.520
<v Speaker 2>everywhere I go. You know, it's better to have and

1317
01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:24.720
<v Speaker 2>not need than need not have, you know what I'm saying.

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01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:29.520
<v Speaker 1>No, absolutely, And it's it puts you in an interesting

1319
01:15:30.199 --> 01:15:33.000
<v Speaker 1>situation where you've had these things happened to you in

1320
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the past, and you're able to relate to you know,

1321
01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:41.720
<v Speaker 1>if you are to interview someone about a big foot site,

1322
01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:45.399
<v Speaker 1>you're you're able to relate about you know, the emotions

1323
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:49.760
<v Speaker 1>they went through and how it probably you know, gets

1324
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:52.439
<v Speaker 1>replayed over and over in your mind or you know,

1325
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:56.439
<v Speaker 1>different things like that. Big for society who will be

1326
01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:16.119
<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages? And I think that's really special.

1327
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:19.479
<v Speaker 1>It's the thing where I'm just starting to experience that

1328
01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:23.000
<v Speaker 1>myself because I'm going out to different places. But what

1329
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:27.680
<v Speaker 1>is you know, speaking of mysteries unknown, what is the

1330
01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.319
<v Speaker 1>main goal that you guys have with that channel.

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01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, with mysteries unknown. You know, Josh created it and

1332
01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm champion it as well. You know, we just want

1333
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:43.960
<v Speaker 2>a safe space for people to go if they've had

1334
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:47.560
<v Speaker 2>an encounter, they had something they can't explain, and they

1335
01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:49.279
<v Speaker 2>want to be able to let it off their chest.

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01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:50.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, they want to be able to get that

1337
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:54.239
<v Speaker 2>off their chest and hopefully have other people relate to them.

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01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:59.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, I I monitor the chat on each one

1339
01:16:59.159 --> 01:17:03.760
<v Speaker 2>of the episodes, during and even after they're posting. You know,

1340
01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:06.560
<v Speaker 2>we do a live and then when we post a

1341
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:09.319
<v Speaker 2>live or post or Josh post an episode. You know,

1342
01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I understand, and I'm guilty of this. I'm very very

1343
01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I look at things. I scrutinize everything, I really do it.

1344
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:22.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that's just my military background, me being a

1345
01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:24.600
<v Speaker 2>police officer in the military, then being a crutch officer

1346
01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:27.439
<v Speaker 2>for the State of Tennessee for two years, and then

1347
01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:30.119
<v Speaker 2>doing private security and things like that. You know, I'm very,

1348
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:34.560
<v Speaker 2>very cynical in a way that when I listen to

1349
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:39.039
<v Speaker 2>someone's account, you know, I give everybody the benefit of

1350
01:17:39.079 --> 01:17:43.119
<v Speaker 2>the doubt, and I do not like it when people

1351
01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:46.359
<v Speaker 2>go on and just openly and blatantly just say this

1352
01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:49.439
<v Speaker 2>person's full of crap. This person's lying, this person's bs.

1353
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:52.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe nothing they're saying, this person's a jokester

1354
01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:54.479
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, you know, because here's the thing, I don't

1355
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:57.640
<v Speaker 2>know everybody's story. I don't know their experiences. I wasn't

1356
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:01.039
<v Speaker 2>there on the ground with them. Now, well, I mean,

1357
01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:05.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, we've had we've had a guest on and

1358
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:08.960
<v Speaker 2>you've had a guest on your show that you know,

1359
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:12.920
<v Speaker 2>they've mentioned stuff when it comes to the military, and

1360
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm very critical to that. One of the guests did

1361
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the exact same thing I did in the in the

1362
01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Air Force, and I called shenanigans on a part of

1363
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:28.239
<v Speaker 2>his story because I know the rules and regulations, I

1364
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:32.119
<v Speaker 2>know they operate procedures, I know all of that, and

1365
01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:35.760
<v Speaker 2>that person was, I think, telling a story. And then

1366
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:37.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, I had a person on there and I

1367
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:39.600
<v Speaker 2>called the person out on you know, I didn't say

1368
01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:41.880
<v Speaker 2>you're a liar, but I said, you know, I got questions,

1369
01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:46.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I've actually had conversations with that person.

1370
01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:48.920
<v Speaker 2>And I'm actually following their channel too, because I like

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01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:52.720
<v Speaker 2>their channel. It's it's pretty interesting. So but you know,

1372
01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:57.279
<v Speaker 2>still it's it's I just want to protect people's story.

1373
01:18:57.359 --> 01:18:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I just want to protect them. I want them to

1374
01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:00.640
<v Speaker 2>understand that, you know, there are people out there that

1375
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:02.960
<v Speaker 2>have experienced similar things, if not the same thing, and

1376
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:05.279
<v Speaker 2>it's a safe space for them to come. And that's

1377
01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:11.000
<v Speaker 2>what Josh Josh is very very very passionate about. You know,

1378
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:16.880
<v Speaker 2>it's a safe space for everybody to to let everybody know, Hey,

1379
01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I did have this issue, and I don't know where

1380
01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:22.039
<v Speaker 2>to go. I'm afraid to say anything to anybody. I

1381
01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:24.680
<v Speaker 2>just need to know am I crazy or did I

1382
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:27.159
<v Speaker 2>see what I saw? Or did I experience what I experienced?

1383
01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:29.279
<v Speaker 2>And we want them to know that, hey, you can

1384
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:34.000
<v Speaker 2>come here and you're safe. I love that.

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01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:37.479
<v Speaker 1>It's it's very close to what guides me. But the

1386
01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.479
<v Speaker 1>thing that I like about your channel is that, you know,

1387
01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:45.039
<v Speaker 1>you don't just stick to Bigfoot. You're throwing every all

1388
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:47.279
<v Speaker 1>sorts of stuff in there. As you were mentioning before,

1389
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:49.800
<v Speaker 1>You've got the dog Man episodes, and a lot of

1390
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:52.960
<v Speaker 1>my listeners are like, get into dog Man. I'm like, well,

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01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of sticking to big Foot. If it comes

1392
01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:57.520
<v Speaker 1>up organically, then yeah, we'll do it. But I mean,

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01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the great thing about your channel is that it's got

1394
01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:04.399
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of stuff for all sorts of people over there,

1395
01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So definitely listeners will want to check it out. The

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01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>link is going to be in the show notes and

1397
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:13.640
<v Speaker 1>they can subscribe and all that good stuff. But Daniel,

1398
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:18.439
<v Speaker 1>it has been such a awesome chat with you. I'm

1399
01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:21.520
<v Speaker 1>glad we're finally able to get you on the show.

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01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:25.640
<v Speaker 1>And thank you so much for sharing your stories. Your

1401
01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:28.840
<v Speaker 1>accounts that I know are are very near and dear

1402
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:31.319
<v Speaker 1>to your heart, and I really appreciate you doing that.

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01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey, I just want to let you know if

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01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it's okay. I mentioned you earlier. Earlier today, I started

1405
01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:43.760
<v Speaker 2>my own podcast, heck you, and it's called The Paranormal

1406
01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Narrative Podcast that's on YouTube. I've only got one episode

1407
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:52.439
<v Speaker 2>on there so far, and I dive into everything that's paranormal, supernatural,

1408
01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:56.079
<v Speaker 2>ghostly hauntings, things like that. I'm going to try to

1409
01:20:56.079 --> 01:20:58.840
<v Speaker 2>stay away from Bigfoot dog Man that type of stuff

1410
01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:02.960
<v Speaker 2>because that's Josh's you know, that's his thing, and him

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01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:04.800
<v Speaker 2>and I were a team. You know. People have called

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01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:08.000
<v Speaker 2>this to the Dynamic Duo and and I'm truly blessed

1413
01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:09.960
<v Speaker 2>to have him in my life as my friend and

1414
01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:12.600
<v Speaker 2>my brother, you know, and you know, because of him,

1415
01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I met you and found you. Actually, I was listening

1416
01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:21.199
<v Speaker 2>to you before I even even met Josh. So dang, yeah,

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01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I've been. I've been. Yeah, I came across you. I came,

1418
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:27.399
<v Speaker 2>I go listen to this guy. Listen, listen how he talks.

1419
01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I love that Kadi is how he talks. You know.

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01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks, thanks Daniel, I appreciate it.

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01:21:34.279 --> 01:21:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, And you know, I'm just trying to work.

1422
01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to work, you know, work behind the

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01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:41.039
<v Speaker 2>scenes and get Josh some pretty good interviews. And Josh

1424
01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:43.199
<v Speaker 2>has done so much for me. And Josh is, like

1425
01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you said, he is such a great guy. He honestly, man,

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01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:51.399
<v Speaker 2>he's helping fill that void of my little brother being gone.

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01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's that top every single day times of day. Man.

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01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:59.119
<v Speaker 2>And I tell my love him. He's my brother. I'm

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01:21:59.159 --> 01:22:00.840
<v Speaker 2>blessed to have him in my life. I just want

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01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:04.119
<v Speaker 2>to I just I I succeed when he succeeded. That's

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<v Speaker 2>whay I look at. I want to do as much

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<v Speaker 2>for him as I possibly can.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's special. Yeah, Daniel, thank you. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>have both both shows. In the show notes that down

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<v Speaker 1>the description, people can check out. But you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. I'm I'm a fan of what you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are doing myself. I try to catch everyone that I can,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, thank you so much for coming on, Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, I was, I was. I was surprised that you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted me on, and I'm very honored to be on

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<v Speaker 2>your show. Man, I mean you you are. And I

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<v Speaker 2>call it my Monday I call it my Monday Morning

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01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:47.159
<v Speaker 2>mix up. You know, it's it's you, It's Sasquatch Chronicles,

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01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:53.039
<v Speaker 2>It's Josh Nice, Sasquatch Odyssey. You know. So, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I I for probably five hours of my my day

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01:22:57.239 --> 01:22:58.680
<v Speaker 2>is spent listening to you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good group to be in. A thank you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Please take a minute to help out the show by

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<v Speaker 1>on a podcast, thank you so much, make sure that

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01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:27.479
<v Speaker 1>you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's

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01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:30.680
<v Speaker 1>all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've

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01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:33.520
<v Speaker 1>had a bigfoot encounter related to the following or know

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01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:37.840
<v Speaker 1>someone who has. Please reach out to me at Bigfoot

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01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:45.039
<v Speaker 1>Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in Oregon,

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01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure there's probably a few of you out there,

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01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:50.640
<v Speaker 1>please feel free to reach out immediately. You can use

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01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. A special thank

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01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>you to all the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members.

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01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:01.560
<v Speaker 1>It's your support that helped keep the show going and

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<v Speaker 1>I extremely appreciate it. If you want to join in

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<v Speaker 1>the fun, you can join over at patreon dot com

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<v Speaker 1>forward slash the big Foot Society. I'll see you there,

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01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:14.479
<v Speaker 1>and again thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Her and I can get on here. We can tell

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01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:09.159
<v Speaker 2>our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's

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01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:12.119
<v Speaker 2>too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

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01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:14.840
<v Speaker 2>them the courage to come out. And now it feels

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01:25:14.840 --> 01:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I

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01:25:18.079 --> 01:25:21.279
<v Speaker 2>know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's

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01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:40.560
<v Speaker 2>all I care about. Please let people know, Please let

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<v Speaker 2>them know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've ever seen one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of these things, you need to tell because if you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>then shame on you. You know, Shame on you, no