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So I mean, let's just get right into it, Dylan Musk. Sure,
this is a week of you and I we you know,
it was just you and me on side Quest and
just even me here doing a Whaler's episode a weekly Geek.
We got some fun topics to jump into, and the
first one being around my boy Spidey.
Speaker 3: We got we got some Sadie Sinc big time rumors.
Speaker 1: I say big time because you know, through our our
undisclosed source, it's it's a it's an eight here. I
don't know where they get their their their letter rankings,
but we're gonna go with it. It's an eight tier
rumor surrounding Sadie Sink, who, if I'm not mistaken, you
have her in the comic book draft.
Speaker 2: I absolutely do. And I to go back to the
archives a little bit on this, because yeah, for anyone
who doesn't know, every year we do many drafts. One
of the drafts we do is the Superhero draft, where
we all pick ten actors or actresses that we think
are gonna be cast in Marvel or DC thing. Uh
And uh yeah, I've had say you Sink on my
list since twenty twenty two. Is when I added her
on my list in July twenty twenty two. And that's funny, back,
I went all the way back because I was trying
to remember when the heck I did pick her in
the first place. And uh yeah, I didn't even have
like a casting in mind when I picked her. I'm
just like, I think I even said, I don't think
she's actually gonna get cast this year. I'm just grabbing
this for a future year. And then I kept her
twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, and it's finally looking
to be paying off here. So yeah, I definitely had
to build that one up. But it feels good to
get the point come out of it.
Speaker 1: You know, It's part of the strategy. Sometimes you gotta
you gotta gear in for those late game picks. They
don't the stranger things kids.
Speaker 2: You gotta grab them while they're kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you assume at least most of them will have,
you know, good careers for the rest of their lives.
So yes, and you know, the superhero genre is just
just like an ever growing I don't know, it's good
Spider Webber.
Speaker 3: It's it's yeah. I was gonna say tumors sound too negative, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like to.
Speaker 1: It is great, but yeah, no, I mean I have
the same strategy on some of my picks. You know,
they haven't always paid off, but I'm I'm gambling on them.
But Sadie Sink, Yeah, I super just overall on my
my overall thoughts on just this news her being attached
to a potential Spiddy project. I really really loved her
and Stranger Things, even from like her first season appearance.
She's a pretty like quiet character in the early stages
of that show, and I've only seen her in that
and like a Taylor Swift music video.
Speaker 3: I think that's.
Speaker 1: Like like her her IMDb record in my brain is
those two projects. And I feel like I've just kind
of been waiting for like a big and maybe I'm
just like not paying attention enough to things that she
has been in. I don't really I should pull up
her IMDb to see what her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's in the Spear Street stuff and then also right, okay,
I would have seen her in that then very relevant
for this week since for the Whalers, but she was
in the Whale alongside, So that was like, I think
that was like her first time doing I guess something
not in like the horror thriller sort of genre' space,
so something a little more you know, academy folks and
all that. So she's definitely a versatile actress, just in
the few things I've seen her in.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I never ended up seeing the Whale, but
I did see in Fear Street, and she was really
really good in that. Oh my gosh, pardon me, but yeah, no,
I think because I've just I really enjoyed her in
Stranger Things and just the thought of like who she
could be potentially playing in a Spider Man or even
just like other MCU type projects, I can kind of
picture being like anything really like of course, like the
Easy Picks are like the Redheads Mary Jane I saw
may Day Parker was another name that was thrown out there,
the child of Peter and Mary Jane. That would be
intriguing a little bit for me because I just don't
really know much about that character. But I really think
that she is just versatile enough to kind of play
anything like even you know, even a Gwen Stacy blonde
hair like I could definitely see her pulling it off
well there. But in terms of like, of course, like
those types of characters pair really well with a Peter Parker,
who I guess I would be assuming would be a
Tom Holland I guess that's not necessarily the case, but yeah,
like the most likely pair up would be there, and
I just I don't know, it's hard for me to
like get to a love interest type character for that,
so maybe that's why I'm leaning to more it's like
a Maydia Parker. But even then they could introduce who
they could be mj or Gwen Stacy and not necessarily
have to be a love interest. They could definitely write
it differently in that sense. But I think I'm just
excited overall on whoever she lands, because she is very versatile.
I think another one on there was also Jean Gray.
Speaker 2: I think that's like the leading. The leading that was
a rumor from like a couple months ago. I think
as well, so this is you know, where there's smoke,
there's fire. It seems like a little bit to that extent.
So I don't know, how would you feel about that if,
like let's say it was just her alone, like one
x Men care d in Spider Man for Do you
think that's kind of weird or is that just maybe
a good strategy for the MC to like sprinkle these
X Men characters, which we've already got a little bit of,
kind of sprinkle them through these different projects and then
you know that makes the team up. I don't know,
I guess a little bit easier because you already have
these people. You don't have to buy into the believability
of them, you already kind of have them established.
Speaker 1: No, that's a that's a really good question because I
feel like I've all, like I don't know, I liked
Jean Gray throughout her just stories and different iterations that
we've seen her in like the two Yeah, it was
two different ones in the Fox X Men series and
then of course like X Men ninety seven and just
seeing her in the animated series, And I feel like
it would be pretty interesting on introducing just her in
a potential like I don't know whether it is Spider
Man or just something else that is just her, because
I feel like many times in the X Men, you
get introduced to like so many characters at once, and
it is hard for you to like really fully focus
It's a little bit different in the X Men animated
series because you have a lot more time to really
flesh them out. But I think specifically with oh my gosh, Sophie.
Speaker 3: Turner is that her name? The actress?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the like the latest one of the X Men
in like the Days of the Future past era, I
feel like it was just oh, I'm also forgetting Jay Law.
That's another yes, oh wait, no, wait, my gosh, never mind. Yeah, yeah,
where am I going out?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What's her name?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Femka Jensen?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Is the Jensen yeah player back in the day? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Good good, good name memory there.
Speaker 2: It's a weird name, remember it is.
Speaker 1: But I feel like specifically with like the Sophie Turner one,
because I felt like I had already kind of gone
through the like the the Phoenix saga with the other
actress who I Yeah, I'm I'm already slipping on the
on the name. But I I feel like it was
just a redo of that original story. So maybe just
like taking her out of that pond, putting in her
with with someone who already has like an established story,
but just introducing that character on her own might be
not necessarily more palatable, but just something different and a
little bit tasty in that sense.
Speaker 3: But hmm, yeah, I don't know what about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, looking at the list again, like all
the kind of rumored characters that she could be playing,
So Jean Gray kind of being like the top Dog one,
just because that also had that rumor from before, but
other ones being Mary Jane, black Cat, Fire Star, and
may Day Parker. So yeah, may Days a character I've
never seen before and all my Spider Man Extravaganza exploration,
So I'd be down for that. That sounds really interesting.
And specifically, the rumor here would be that that would
be like the daughter of Kristen duns and Toby Maguire's characters,
So that would be really fun. You know, there's a
lot of potential there. That'd be a chance to get
Dunce back as well, like because we already had Toby back,
but to get her back would be interesting. So that
could be a really fun storyline. Yeah, it's kind of
a freaky, deeky one, but like, I'm kind of down
for that, And then I think for the other ones,
I don't really see black Cat pick for her. I
think we have heard maybe some rumors that could be
this potential storyline for Spider Man four, but we've heard
so many We've heard like every rumor in the world
for this movie at this point, so who knows. I
don't think that would be a great fit. Fire Star
seems like an interesting one. I looked into that character
a little bit. I think fire Star was in the
X Men animated series. I could be wrong, might be
just there's so many random freaks on that show right
just flying around. But whether or not she's in there
looking it up. I guess she was introduced into Spider
Man comic in the first place. Kind of a has
fire based powers, as one would expect there, so that
could be interesting. Just get a new fresh character, I'd
be into that as well. Or if it's just like, yeah,
another Mary Jane, like a more standard one. I think
that's maybe the least interesting of these options for me,
just because I've kind of been there, done that. I
think the may Day is maybe the may Day or
Jean or the are the most compelling ones for me.
I'd be so curious to see what they do with Gene.
It feels like it would be a more grounded version
of the character than what we've seen before. And also
so potentially should be kind of like side character status.
I don't know how big in the world she would be,
but that would be a really bold choice to really
kick off the X Men in a major way with that,
if that is kind of what we're getting there. But
I could also see that being like a bit of
a twist, like it could be a situation in the
trailers and we kind of all assume it's Mary Jane,
but then it ends up Beinginge and we just don't
actually see that name until the movie comes out, or
something like that. So I think there's some good options here.
But either way, just having her in Spider Man, I
think it's a great fit. I mean, I don't know,
she's probably like early twenties. I feel like Tom Holds
like in his thirties now. I don't really know. It's
hard to tell us that these people, but it seems
like they're around the same age. So I feel like
if we play off a romantic thing or just like
friends teaming up, I'm kind of down. I don't know
if it. Maybe it works out that she's a character
that ends up whatever her character ends up being in
the Champions, like the Young Avengers that we've heard about
as well. Seems like she could be right for that roster,
and that seems like a lot of women for that
roster right now, so maybe she would fit right in
there with like Miss Marvel and Kate Bishop and stuff,
so that could also be a fun dynamic. So whatever
it is, I feel like that's a a She's a
really great actress and with all these different characters that
she could be playing a really good piece to add
into this movie, and you could easily see it like
spiral out into these other things, even if she doesn't
just like stick in the Spider Realm but branches out
to these other projects. So a lot of potential there,
And obviously I'm extra hype because I get a point
out of it as well. Push me ahead in the
draft for this year. Oh yeah, feeling good about that.
Speaker 3: Congratulations sir.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, it is still rumor, you know, so you
can't collect your trophy yet, but okay, it's it's pretty hot.
It's pretty hot, and like you said, where there's there's smoke,
there's fire.
Speaker 2: I feel like I might have the most success, Like
I don't know if I've won every year, because there's
like the two pointers and stuff. But I had John Crasinski,
Animilia Clark, I had Sean Gun which is now a
cheap one, but I'll take it. I feel like I
had one more, but I can't can't recall the top
of my head. But yeah, I'm I've had some good
picks over there over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you got a better percentage of me,
and I'm kind of surprised I even have as many
points as I do throughout the lifelong that we've been
doing this draft.
Speaker 2: Well, you got a lot of the euphoria. I'm not
gonna call the kids because everyone in that show is
like thirty five years old, but you know, he got
a lot of those young up and comers, so I'm
sure though, I'm sure that soon enough. Yeah, exactly, exactly awesome,
Uh cool?
Speaker 1: Anything else on Sadie Sink specifically, No, I'm just saying,
did you think, like comic on this year, she'd be
up on that stage.
Speaker 2: We get some some I think some stuff going on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just especially that we're we already
got our nose on the scent, you know at this stage.
Let it keep brew and let that pie sit on
the window sill a little bit more until Comic cap
we'll be taking a piece out of it. Cool, a
couple other you know, rumored potential, Uh just comic book
casting potential.
Speaker 3: Weird way to phrase that, but uh.
Speaker 1: The if I'm not mistaken, the Oscar winner of this year,
Mike Mikey Madison.
Speaker 2: She did win an Oscar and then yes, okay, I
was correct.
Speaker 1: I don't watch the Oscars, but I was pretty certain
that she was a winner of it. She's one of
the names on a potential Marvel wanted list. Well, of course, yeah,
how can you not what she just wanted?
Speaker 2: To name one director or studio that doesn't want to
work with Mikey Madison Right now, she's on top of
the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't think of one. Yeah, even GV Productions
wants her. Oh absolutely, we can't afford her unfortunately, roles unknown.
You know, I think you really liked Do Nora. I
can't remember because we never did a review for it.
Speaker 2: I did, it didn't make it very far in many
Golden Geeks categories. Swept the Oscars instead, So you know,
maybe she's happier with that and then winning Golden Gate categories.
But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'll have to ask her for sure. But you know,
I absolutely love Donra. I think it's easily one of
my favorite movies of last year. And yeah, I'm not
really surprised by seeing this. It's the same thing when
I watch something like Euphoria or like like just a
new show that's out, and it's just amazing because people
just give so much shout out to specific actors or
actresses or whoever's in it. And I did not disappoint
for me with with the Mikey Madison pick of course,
and who.
Speaker 2: Do you got for her?
Speaker 1: Where?
Speaker 2: Where would you where would you slap her down?
Speaker 3: Which care? That would be a black cat for me?
I feel like, yeah, that.
Speaker 1: One comes pretty yeah, pretty natural. I mean I've only
seen her as the character of a Noora, so like I,
I don't know how versatile.
Speaker 3: Is, but she she is so you Holly, she didn't
once to put on in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Remember she gets the can chucked at her head
at the end of the movie.
Speaker 3: That's her. Yeah, I actually did not know that.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Okay, So I have seen her more more
things than just an aura, I feel, And you would
have to be like a very fiery type character of course,
now that I have, oh yeah, that crazy hippie in
my mind. Now, oh, maybe circle back to me. Maybe
maybe stew on that one a little bit. But uh
And then the other name in here was David Johnson.
I'm sorry, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 2: Just by Hey you do Andy from Alien Romulus?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, come on David Johnston.
Speaker 1: See these are two where like I'm not surprised when
I like see the faces, like, yeah, people want these
these actors and actresses, Like yeah, that makes sense. Is
exactly what you already talked about again, another character that
can kind of be many things. He could be any
any type of android. We know, we could check that box.
Speaker 3: M hmm, I don't know. I don't know. He help
me out here.
Speaker 2: Could be Ultron's son, Ultron's son. Yeah, if you want
another robot, you know, my other one for Mikey was
Jessica Jones. I think could be interesting picked for her.
Just you know, I do want Ridder back, and it
seems like a lot of these Netflix people are coming back.
So if I had my preference, just give me a
rider back. Let's go continue that that character and storyline.
But I do think that could be an interesting role
for her, whether that is her just popping up in
their Devil and other things, or if there is another
season of Jessica Jones that eventually happens. But yeah, I
think that could be a fun kind of role for her.
As for David Johnson, my maybe it's like a bit
of a generic pick here, but I was thinking, you know,
in the last Black Panther movie, we got young Oh
my God, is it to Is it? His name's also
to 'challa, right, the new kid? Yeah, but I think,
you know, realisticly, what we're gonna do is like age
that kid up for the next Black Panther thing to
be the next to Challa. I feel like David Johnson
could be a pretty good pick for that, if like,
let's let's throw that in like the Young Avengers realm,
if we kind of go that direction. Because I don't
know how old that kid was, maybe like twelve or
something like that, but I add a few years on him,
David Johnson could like fit that kind of role.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if really what I saw in Alien,
that's the only thing I've seen him in like really
evokes that type of character, But that was the first
one that came to mind to me just for like
the Age group. I feel like he would be kind
of set up for a young Avengers kind of thing,
and that would be really cool. So yeah, I think
that'd be interesting. I feel like he's still a little
bit under the radar, but obviously that was a great
performance for him last year in Alien, so hopefully he
joins the world of Marvel. I think that'd be really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean, yeah, no, Sorry, I had
my mind on who I would cast, but yeah, no,
that's I think pretty much anything he would excel at.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got another one from Mikey here.
Speaker 1: Okay, Kitty Pride I think I think would be really
interesting because I'm I feel like next time we're gonna
see Kitty Pride too, she's gonna be a lot bigger
of a character than we seen her in the past
with the Fox Universe.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: For a more kind of like how we had Rogue
in the Fox Universe, like a character more centered around.
Speaker 2: Give me a Rogue, give me Mikey Madison Rogue as well.
Speaker 3: But again, pretty much anyone she'll be phenomenal at.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think she'll do it right now
in her career.
Speaker 1: She's gonna she's gonna be she doesn't need the GV
Golden Geek yet, She's gonna just hold one of that Oscar.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like maybe she'll pull like a Emma
Stone and like win an Oscar and then just go
do a bunch of freakish your goos movies and things
like that. I feel like that would be That's what
I would do if I were her. I mean, I'd
also be in Marvel. If I were her, that'd be cool.
But I don't I feel like she would. She would
probably wait for the right role. And I just don't
know what kind of like woman led like Marvel movie,
like maybe a TV show like movie is happening in
the near future. I don't know if she just wants
to just be a character in nonsemble. I feel like she's, uh,
she's so hot right now, so she can take whatever
the heck she wants. And I don't know. I just
don't know if there's the right role or movie that
exists for her right now. It would be maybe my
my thought, but maybe we're selling how big of a
deal she is. We'll have to wait and see because
we still haven't really seen the fallout of her winning
this oscar and being a big deal remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely true. I feel like, yeah, you bring up
a great point. I feel like the likely scenario would
be her being maybe like a like a one off
villain or something like like the main Like another one
that I did see when I was quickly googling was
like a Madame Hydra. I don't even know who that
character is, but I'm like, that sounds awesome.
Speaker 3: I think Hydro's kind of.
Speaker 1: You know, in the past from where we are on
the MCU, But I don't know Zola randomly popped up
at some point.
Speaker 2: It's too close to Madame Web for me, so I'm
not not liking that for a name change.
Speaker 1: Mikey, Yeah, that's fair. Mademoiselle Hydro. They add a little
bit flair to it.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I I think because you brought up, you know,
the point of just she is so hot right now
and she doesn't really necessarily I would want to like
pairp like a big ensemble thing.
Speaker 3: She she is just like the star of the show.
Speaker 1: But who knows, Maybe she really wants to get in
the comic book game we'll treat and see.
Speaker 2: Cool. Do you have any others for David Johnson? Did
you have any have any any castings for bad for him?
Speaker 1: I just don't know, like what, Like I would want
to be a bigger character, and I feel like I'm
just having a harder time picturing who's going to be
popping up in like one of those type of roles.
Like my mind, I still just don't believe Blade is
gonna come out at all, But I feel like I
don't know some sort of appearance in a Blade like
show where it's just like a more mature setting. Maybe
my mind's just too attached to the Romulus setting for
that character. But yeah, I don't know. I just I'm
having a hard time picking up who who could be appearing?
Yeah with his face?
Speaker 2: Is there an X character that makes sense for him?
Speaker 3: I just don't know where we're gonna be jumping in
with the X men on like who they're going to
be choosing as like their first appearances.
Speaker 1: I mean, we already kind of talked about the Gene
Gray rumors, but we do have a best rumor and Johnson.
Speaker 3: You can get to that if you want, sure. Yeah, Sorry,
I'm lacking on my.
Speaker 2: Mind, I'm blanket too on. Too many deep cuts for
him right now, too.
Speaker 1: Many deep cuts. Speaking of deep cuts, we got Jesse
Plemmons coming off Hot of Civil War, very interesting kinds
of kindness, I would say, hot off kind Okay, I
never saw it, That's why I wasn't in He's wild
in that movie. You got to watch it at some.
Speaker 3: Point, He's okay, Yeah, I will. Is that the one
with Wille Dafoe as well?
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's the Yorgos movie from last year?
Speaker 3: Oh your ghosts? Okay?
Speaker 1: And still three three different timelines or storylines or something
like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, that is the one I was thinking of.
Speaker 2: But he's kind of like the lead, the star of
the like all of them pretty much.
Speaker 3: So Plemings is, yeah, okay, nice.
Speaker 1: I I really like him in the roles that I've
seen him in, but I feel like the roles that
I've seen him in are like very character actor type roles,
So I in my mind, I just assume him being
this like really disturbing, fucked up guy. I've seen him in,
like Breaking Bad in Civil War. But you know who's
not a fucked up and crazy guy is mister Beast himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Beast is pretty normal, very normal.
Speaker 1: I would say he's like very philosophical with the way
that he's beaks.
Speaker 3: He's very high intellect.
Speaker 1: So just because of my past of Jesse Plemmons, I
don't necessarily think of him right away, but uh, I'm
down for it. I think it would be really really interesting.
Just side of Jesse Plemmons. I feel like when I
look at him again, it's just hard for me to
not see like the crazy psychos that he's played in
the past.
Speaker 3: But he's kind of got.
Speaker 1: A nice, like gentle teddy bearism to him. And you know,
yeah Blue, give him a furry little hairdoo and some sideburns.
Speaker 2: You think they'll they'll do that instead of CGI. You
think they'll paint him blue.
Speaker 1: Maybe like the eyes around you know, like he's running
full mocap, but they just they just batman's circles. No,
I think CGI is more likely, But yeah, that might
not stress up Blue for the audition.
Speaker 2: Right right. He that's he's you know, he gets into
the role. He's a method actor. It's probably not That's
the thing is like, not that he's a beautiful man
that I need to see visually on my screen, but
I don't want him in a CGI roll. I want
I want plemins, I want the acting, and I don't
really want like weird if he's CGI. And I also
don't think a beast is gonna be like the main guy,
then he'd be in the side, which I feel like
is kind of where Jesse Plemmans normally is. So I
do think on paper a lot of it makes sense.
I just want like a spicier pick. But I also
was looking through so many characters today I couldn't come
up with one off the top of my head. So
maybe it does just make sense, but I don't know.
I want him to be weirder, I guess, and maybe
that's me typecasting him because I just love him when
he's weird. But I do think he could pull off
Hank McCoy. I feel like he could pull off most
characters because it's such a great actor. But yeah, I do.
I think I want something little, a little freak here,
a little more beastly than just beast.
Speaker 3: You know that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what if because you still like you still want
to see him, What if it's like how they have
Mark Ruffalo where like you very much see Mark Ruffalo's
face in the CGI, but it is still a CGI character.
Speaker 2: And I guess Beast some iterations kind of can go
back and forth to some extent.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 2: I just feel like by the time we get Beast
in mc U proper other than like the Grammar Post
Critics scene, like, I don't I don't think we're going
full origin story. I don't think we're gonna have a
sequence of like Plemings non covered paint, you know, I
think he's always gonna be covering that paint.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think I would agree, just because we
kind of already went through a somewhat origin with like
the Days of Future Pass. What is that actor's name?
He was just a nasaratu. I'm blanking old Holt. Yes,
thank you for this Holt. So yeah, I would also
just like him as being like the Pillar and another
another one for me with this Plemings thing is just
like doubling back on how I just see him as
that one type of character. I want to have a
role where I'm like, Okay, yeah, I know he is
a gentleman and a nice guy. I'm sure he is
in real life married to the Greek Christen. Oh my gosh,
I have too many Christians.
Speaker 2: In my in my mind, he's married to Kristin Dunn's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, okay, cool, I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 3: Double check that right now, cause I don't want to
say so.
Speaker 2: The Civil War, the Civil War duo that probably came up. Yeah,
a Civil War review and I just my memory once again, married.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two. They're still going for them. Good for
those kids.
Speaker 2: Were you at the wedding and everything? Or I couldn't
make it? They sent the rsp VP though you were
busy filming Adrenachrome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't let me.
Speaker 1: Bring AU plus one and I'm like, well fuck, I'm
not going then, but thanks for the thought, guys.
Speaker 2: Anything else on the on the plumbs, No, I don't think.
I don't know if we have a tear for that one.
But do you think that's do you think that's the
realm they're going? Like the older, older, wiser beast version.
I could see it. I could see this one.
Speaker 3: What would be your percentage?
Speaker 2: I'll go the thirty six Okay, still pretty low. It's
pretty high though, for just like a random ask roeh, No,
that's fair you say it's like a one and three
chance that it happens. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: That's actually pretty dark good. I'm gonna go fit too.
Speaker 1: I'm over the hump on this one. That yeah, yeah, okay,
flip heads and tails. I would get that tails a
little bit more than the hits, slightly more, slightly more. Okay,
our very last MCU rumor, we just lost our our
our letter grades on these, but.
Speaker 3: So we don't know the letter grade. But a I
already brought it up today.
Speaker 1: The Blade, the Ever, the Blade, the moby dick of
the MCU project. I believe it's it's a fallacy. We're
never gonna see this project, so people are still talking
about it. Apparently David Leach.
Speaker 3: As a as A.
Speaker 1: The Leachman, so we call him now. I like it though,
the Leachman for the Blade director. Apparently the project is
now internally listed as a post Secret Wars project.
Speaker 3: No ship. I feel like this movie should have came
out a long time ago.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be getting Secret Wars no time here by
the time you know, Blade gets any more information out.
Speaker 3: But what about you? Are you like me? Are you
just a and a pessimist?
Speaker 1: And you just don't think this is ever gonna be
a thing, even though I love the initial casting.
Speaker 3: It was so hype around that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, watching Eternals six years ago. Yeah, the voice is
still in the ether.
Speaker 3: But what about you?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 2: I've been on the optimistic side, but when I hear
news like this, like oh yeah, we're just kicking that
down the road again like past A Venders, It's like,
oh God, that's not very good. So I don't know.
I mean, I think with what we've got set up
for Avengers now, like you don't really need Blade in there,
Like we have enough characters to we have enough you know,
chess pieces to play with here, we don't need Blade.
So it's fine, kick them to the next era. Maybe
the next era has like a Midnight Sun sort of situation,
Marvel Knights kind of thing, and maybe Blade makes a
lot of sense to kick that little mini arc off.
So I think it makes sense. But yeah, I just
as as the years go on, I get more and
more worried that mersha Ali will just dip and do
other stuff, and that would be a real missed opportunity
because he would be really great there. So yeah, I
hope that it happens. And in terms of David Leech though,
for anyone who forgets director of Deadpool two, Fast and Furious,
Hobbs and Shaw, Bullet Train, and Fall Guy. So I
love I love Fall Guy, I love Deadpool. I haven't
seen Fast and Furious. Bultrum was pretty good too, so
he's like a good director. He makes a very specific
type of movie, though, and that's not the kind of
vibe I want for Blade. I don't want jokey comedic.
I want like dark and serious, little horror vibes, some
scary stuff. So not to say that he can't do it.
I'm sure he's capable, but this is not my this
is not my preferred pick. I think there's a lot away,
like a ton of other great Marvel projects, that he
would be great for. Obviously he's done Deadpool before, but
I don't I don't really want him in there for Blade,
so I'm not I'm hoping that this is not true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a great point.
Speaker 1: I think just the overall tone of pretty much all
those movies, like Deadpool two, dabbles into some serious stuff,
but like still, for the most part, it is a
comedy and at its bones and then of course Bulletrain
and Fall Guy are both like fully centered around that
comedic side, and it's really not what I would have
expected the just and you know, maybe this is gonna
be a super serious flick if he is the one
that's actually attached to it and this does actually come out. Uh,
but I just feel like us getting this news now
and set up after a post Secret Wars it makes
me think that they probably shifting their initial idea of
what they were going to do for that Blade project,
and I didn't even get or I don't know. I
don't know if many did like the initial pitch for
what they were going to do with that Blade because
that was so long ago, but it's just not really
where I would have pinned it. So yeah, yeah, he's
a good point showing that up.
Speaker 2: He's also a producer on all of the John Wick stuff.
How do you feel about like John Wick vibe for Blade?
Do you think that's a good pain because that actually
makes a little more sense to me. That's like, okay,
now we're in the same cauldron.
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I think that something that comes to mind initially when
I think of Blade is just like the high energy
action I still think Blade has like one of the
best openings of any action movie ever. Are you familiar
with with like the nightclub scene when they just they're
like spraying blood out of the sprinklers and then he's
just chopping up everyone at night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just phenomenal.
Speaker 1: So I think that is very much more on the
tone of what I would have expected for a Blade.
But I like, I also like what you said though
of like maybe a more horror aspect to it, because
it's creatures of the night that he's facing down. And yeah,
just just the David Leach tone of it, I think
makes me think that we're going in an opposite direction
of that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I to see obviously he's like got
a big love for the stunt men of the world
with That's why Fall guys all about kind of a
love layer to them. I think that like to have
some really just bad ass, really well choreographed stunts and
cool things for Blade, like that seems like a pretty
good pairing. If we could get like a really acrobatic,
you know, not Marshali doing all these jumps off stuff,
but gets someone looks like him to do some cool stuff,
I think that could be a really fun pairing as well.
It could really fit with like the the vampiric kind
of I don't know, movements that you would normally get
and stuff. So I do think there is a couple
points of potential that makes sense for this. It would
really just be a tone thing. But I think if
you get a good the right writer, then maybe he
could be the just the good pairing right as long
as the writer is making the tone a specific way,
maybe he could help bring that to life with his
skill set. So, and you know, directors can do a
lot of different things in their career. I just haven't
necessarily seen that from him in the works i've seen
him do, so interesting choice for sure.
Speaker 1: Well said, yeah, all right, Well, if you have nothing
else to add, I have nothing else to add. So
we will skip on over to our first ad break
and we'll be back unravel.
Speaker 2: Some some DC stuff.
Speaker 3: So here we go, all right, and we are back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said some DC stuff. It's more focused around Yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 3: The heads of DC.
Speaker 2: There's the heads of the snake, the heads.
Speaker 1: Of the snake, the heads of the hydra. One gentleman
James Gunn, never forget his name. Another man I usually
can forget Peter Saffron, which is I've now learned his name,
and I might not have to too much because he might
be shifting out of that role into.
Speaker 2: The lead role of the sea like his name even more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Actually he's gonna be covering more
films than I that I would have already been talking about.
But potentially the new DC head after I don't know,
there's some I don't want to say inner turmoil, but
maybe some inner uneasiness on just I don't even want
to say like the trajectory of Warner Brothers, but just
maybe like the the high tide of of of movies
successful at the box office.
Speaker 3: That was a horrible way to say that.
Speaker 1: I apologize, but uh yeah, no, I I from from
what I understand, there's some inner mumblings that the Superman
project that's coming out this summer is kind of a
make or break I feel like that's kind of a hyperbole,
just because it's such a mass of studio. I don't
think it'll it'll break down the whole company, but I mean,
if there's already talks of just shifting around some leadership,
maybe that.
Speaker 2: Is WB's on the ropes though, man like they are
already on the ropes, so that yeah, they takeing a
couple of punches. The pressure's on and obviously, you know,
part of this is like Mickey seventeen was, I guess
one of their things, and that's not doing great and
all this so like not looking good.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I truly loved that movie. I know
you absolutely did, and I didn't really because I just
don't keep my finger on the pulse on the box
office stuff. Initially, I was pretty surprised, I think just
by the ratio of to my understanding budget of about
one hundred and twenty million and then domestically made about
nineteen million, like just under twenty mil. That's that's crazy
to me, just because of I mean, I guess maybe
I just think Robert Pattinson is a lot bigger than
he is, or maybe just people i'd know, any what
the fuck this movie was gonna be going into it,
or maybe it was I don't know. The vie for
this type of movie, for whatever reason, did not do
to out the box office, and uh, what was the
other one.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been telling when anyone everyone in my life,
go see this freaking movie.
Speaker 3: So and they should.
Speaker 2: I'm doing my part.
Speaker 3: You listening to this right now.
Speaker 1: You should go check out Mickey seventeen is a fantastic film.
But yeah, they were so Mickey seventeen.
Speaker 3: Uh oh Joker Joker too.
Speaker 1: That was the other one that made Yeah, that was
not good nature box office bomb and uh, of course
it's like two projects and pretty close window of release,
and then I would definitely be worried. I think if
I if my position was in those roles like leading
up into Superman and but yeah, like I don't know,
what do you think about this news?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems strange. So they had, yeah, the idea
that Saffron is gonna get promoted up to like a
higher responsibility role after It's always hard with these people. Uh,
you know when we were talking about Big Dan Linn
for all those months there, it's like damn, it's those
kind of roles are really hard for us as like
just citizens of the earth to like understand kind of
what makes those roles successful and really the work that
they're doing. So it's always hard to say, but like
from what I understand, like I just feel like the
DC stuff is just kind of getting kicked off. We
really don't know how successful this plan is going to
be from Saffron and Gun. Seems like on paper, it
seems like there's a lot of great ideas there, but
we just have to remain to be seen if it's profitable.
So I don't know, it seems like a strange idea
to promote this guy at this point in time. Maybe
he's proven himself with his work prior. Obviously if he
got that role in the first place with DC, he's
clearly done something right. But yeah, I don't know. It
just seems like a bold jump at this point. But
I I from what I also my outlook, I feel
like James Gun's fine on his own to do this
DC thing. It seems like he's especially now that's kicked
off and now that I don't know how much directing
he's gonna do from this point forward, right, So like
the Superman done directing that is coming out this year,
that was his thing, but now he can just really
focus on like being that producer role and getting these
things moved along. So I don't know, maybe he doesn't
need that second chair, maybe he doesn't need his Whaler
two to his Whaler one. He's like good to go there.
But yeah, the promotion does seem like an odd thing,
but obviously, yeah they are, they are on the ropes,
and so maybe it's just like, Okay, the current people
are really not cutting it. So even though this is
maybe a bit of a risk, it's like, you can't
do worse than like these fools that you got in
this position right now, because they're just kind of dropping
the ball in terms of some of these bigger decisions.
So yeah, it's just one of these things. It's really
hard for me to fully contextualize it. But the move
doesn't really make a lot of sense, but also what
they're currently doing doesn't make sense, so you know, try again,
try something different.
Speaker 1: And I mean many times in the past I've completely
forgotten his name just because James gun isn't or is
a little bit more in the light than Peter Saffron is.
And I feel like part of that is also I
just don't really fully understand what Peter.
Speaker 3: Saffron does.
Speaker 1: Yea in his role, and even James gunn to an extent,
you know, like I it's on.
Speaker 2: A pile of cash smoked cigars. I don't know what
these guys doing.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. So I guess good for him.
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna be getting a pretty good pay raise.
I would imagine being the new head of wb But yeah.
Speaker 2: Just with wbn's to spend more money on things that
don't need.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think a part of that too is I mean,
Mickey seventeen one hundred and twenty million dollar budget.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful looking film, but like gorgeous, you.
Speaker 1: Don't have to have one hundred million dollars to make
a phenomenal film, clearly, you know, we see some lower
budget films that do super, super well, and it's it's
it's a challenge when your your base is so high, right, Like,
they basically have to make, to my understanding, double that
to make a profit because you have to think about
all like the marketing and everything else that goes with
the cost of the budget. But that's just that's a
tough bar, you know. I guess the idea is you
spend more and then you get bigger profits. But I
don't know, it's just they're so fixated.
Speaker 2: Not an easy role. It's really hard to make these decisions.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not qualified for this, so take everything I
say with the crowd.
Speaker 2: No one is I think that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we got detail in the chat. What was one
of the comments here, what do you think Superman needs
to make for them to continue? I feel like I'm
still in the realm that it is going to be
a billion dollar film.
Speaker 2: WHOA, Okay, Yeah, It's just it's just something about these these.
Speaker 1: Big first I guess Origin movie for like a new
main face of a franchise, Auqaman did it, Wonder Woman
did it?
Speaker 3: Like like those those early I.
Speaker 1: Guess not necessarily rely just like the first big movie
for these big characters. I think just kind of have
a trend to go that way. And I don't know,
I haven't heard a lot of word of mouth. It
is a little bit ways away it is this year,
but maybe like after just some bigger, bigger promotion stuff
comes out with the film, I think more people will
be talking about it's it's Superman.
Speaker 3: You know, he's like he's like one of the og
og Superman.
Speaker 1: Is the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do we know the budget of this movie
and you I don't have my keyboard plugged in, so
I can't uh.
Speaker 3: Do talk to text right now.
Speaker 2: I'm out of ports in my laptop, so that's kind
of kind of maybe type.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing three hundred and sixty three point eight oh dollars.
That is way higher than I was expecting. That is insane.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I feel like I twenty five, so that's insane.
Speaker 2: And this movie's coming out soon. I feel like I
have not seen much marketing for it yet, so I
don't know. Maybe they're, you know, skimping on the marketing
budget because they spent so much on production itself. Maybe
or maybe that number includes marketing. I'm not sure, but
that is a freaking huge number. So I feel like
this movie's got to make big money to be a success,
which is once again like a big part of this
reading to this article figuring out what's wrong with WB
is like they're just giving too much money to some
of these movies. And as you mentioned with Mickey seventeen,
maybe that was the case there, but other ones as well,
and like for Superman, that's I mean, for any movie ever,
that's a humongous budget. So we'll see what happens there.
But I would think I feel like it's got to
at least make like six hundred million for it to
be like for things to be okay. Yeah, but you know,
probably more aiming for eight hundred million or like, obviously
they want the billion. Every movie wants a billion. But
I think a realistic number would between six hundred eight
hundred million for it to be like, Okay, that was
a decent success. Put some money in our pockets hopefully,
like keep this DC thing going for a bit longer.
But oh boy, that's a that's a rough budget. If
that's a true number.
Speaker 3: That is that that is crazy.
Speaker 1: I think I was expecting something like around two hundred
maybe north of that, maybe under two fifty. But uh, yeah,
I mean clearly people should be worried. Then at Warner
Brothers DC.
Speaker 2: A lot of eggs in the super That is a
lot of eggs.
Speaker 1: That's juniord sixty three point eight million eggs, and.
Speaker 2: There's a birthlu thing going on right now, so eggs
are not easy to come back specifically a jokes.
Speaker 1: Details question, I feel like, yeah, eight hundred would kind
of be the goal, uh in my mind, uh, with
a budget like that to reach, but.
Speaker 2: Which is not easy to do in this uh day
and age. You can't just you can't just casually hit that.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: And the detail also said Mickey said he was great
in theater, like everybody's gonna.
Speaker 3: See it absolutely awesome?
Speaker 1: Was there something else in this Peter Saffron uh shebang
that I was missing?
Speaker 2: I guess just like if w B does sell off DC,
or just like, I don't know, if WB just goes
under completely and has to sell off everything.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really have an idea of like who a
good buyer would be for that kind of stuff. My
thought would maybe be like an Amazon or something. But
I just feel like, I don't know, isn't like a
laws against monopolies and shit, Like I feel like that's
WB is so huge, it's hard for me to imagine
that going to one of these big guys already. But
I mean, I don't know, people break through rules all
the time, so maybe that would just go to freaking
Disney or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I feel like the rules just change, you know,
they don't work, so then they just make the change of.
Speaker 2: The Maybe Netflix would scoop that up.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm so out of my element when it comes to
like the big company monopoly type size or sorry that
the types of people that are just truly running the world.
And I feel like I found it crazy when Disney
bought Lucasfilm, like even like even back then, and then
they bought Marvel and then they bought Fox, and that
one was just like insane to me when we were
like actually hearing about some of the numbers that were
being thrown around, Like you can say a billion, you
can say a hundred billion. I feel like my mind
just can't actually picture what that amount really means.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Amazon, they could probably afford it, just just
with how large it is.
Speaker 3: But uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's always a weird thing because then you get
into like I don't know the monopoly rules of but unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope for the DC fans that w can
at least hold on a little bit longer have some
success here and like you can at least get a
glimpse of this Saffron and Gun vision and just get
like at least I don't know, at least five or
six or seven of these projects out and just see
what that vision is and then obviously, if it's profitable,
keep it going. But yeah, I hope for the DC
fans that they can at least get to see this
a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I really want that that Superman project to just pop off,
and I want to be hyped on Superman again because
I really love the Henry Cavill pairing for Superman, even
though I didn't really love those movies, you know, the
Zack Snyder Justice League maybe being my favorite out of
all those. But yeah, no, I really want to be
loving this film because I have a lot of nostalgia
with Superman.
Speaker 3: You know, we went through that retro to go check
that out.
Speaker 1: It's on the feeds, and it just yeah, Christopher Reeve,
like I was one of my early just attachments to
the supermo superhero genre, and of course, like we didn't
have the cinematic universes that we do now. Like now
we're just we're spoiled rotten with with the amount of projects.
Speaker 3: That we have.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I I have a deep place in
my heart for.
Speaker 3: For Superman. So I really hope it succeeds.
Speaker 2: When's that, uh, that old movie coming out?
Speaker 1: I'll get an exact date. I know it's in the ser.
Speaker 2: July moment, perhaps.
Speaker 3: July eleventh.
Speaker 2: There we go, that was it June, same day as
Tony Hawk's three plus four Pro School?
Speaker 3: What are you gonna choose Dylan Superman or Tony Hawk
three plus one.
Speaker 2: Stay home and play Tony.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna help get this over eight hundred million.
Speaker 2: I supported Mickey seventeen. I'll go see that again.
Speaker 1: That's that's respectful, right, Okay, any final things on these
DC talks or uh? I think shall we toss? Yeah,
let's jump into some trailers here, so, uh, any specific
one do you want to start with. Let's see, let's
go Last of Us season two, which is coming up
pretty serious.
Speaker 2: Coming on April. Uh. Yeah, I mean this is so
this is funny because like the first even though I
haven't played through the full first game, I kind of
knew everything that happens for the most part in it,
and so those trailers are always like, oh, okay, this
is that part? Is that part? But I don't really
I know some broad strokes that what goes on in
the second game, but I have not played that, and
so watching this trailer, I was like completely lost. I
don't know what the heck is going on. There's like
cults everywhere, of course, more zombies popping off. There's these
characters are mad at each other. There's other new characters.
I don't know half of them. So yeah, I I
I'm I'm I'm excited for the show. I'm excited to
go into like uncharted territory. I'm really curious to see
what they do in terms of the overall story in
that second game being a lot longer, and how much
of it they choose to tackle or how much things
they shift, considering that the first season did that as well.
But yeah, this show's kind of popping up pretty quickly.
Do you think you're gonna do like a rewatch or anything,
or do you feel pretty pretty ready to go for
the second season. I feels like it was like what
last year or no, I guess it was twenty three,
but it's pretty recent, right, I feel like.
Speaker 3: It's further in my mind. I don't know, I'll have
to pull it up.
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, if I'm ready, I'm absolutely
not ready because watching this, I'm like, man, I do
not remember actually every I feel like I remember the
main hitting points of that first season. So just with
time and time constraints, I'll probably just watch like a
Netflix or sorry, not a Netflix at YouTube, like recap
of season one leading up to it, because it is
coming quick and you know, Yeah, I can't believe already,
like pretty much halfway through March of twenty twenty five,
I know time is just is just an ever fleeting thing.
But yeah, I am very hype though. This trailer really
did a good job it just hyping me up. Did
show a lot, But like you, I never ended up
finishing that first game. I thought about it while watching
watching the first season, and it'll probably happen again where I'm.
Speaker 3: Watching this, I'm like, oh, I just want to jump
in this universe.
Speaker 1: You know, they plays play the game and just really
enjoy the characters from Ye, it's kind of the same direction,
but a different code of pain on it. I don't know,
I don't I really don't know how different this story
is for the most part, just because I haven't played
through that whole game. And then I imagine this is
tackling the second game, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we don't know how much of.
Speaker 1: This Okay, Okay, Yeah, so I don't know really any
of these new characters that we're shown here, But yeah,
I think they did a good job at just showcasing
some lighthearted moments of the show with just Joel, like
talking to that young kid and just kind of telling
that like the story, there some wholesome moments, but then
some like just chaos with people wearing the earth sorty
holding these I don't even know what they're called, but
it's like a sickle type thing, and like the show's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be pretty vicious here.
Speaker 1: Then we get like a basically Battle of the Bastards
type sequence with all the just the zombies like just
running towards the base there. And yeah, no, I'm pretty hyped,
especially just you know, HBO the quality of shows that
they put out there. They always look really really good
with these large scale events and just the quality of
the actors and everything. So yeah, I'm really excited to
get back into this dour and depressing universe. Plus plus
we got what's it called twenty years Later? Like it
it kind of reminds me of that same sort of
vein of just like kind of post apocalyptic people living
out their lives and the world's gone to to shit.
So yeah, I'm down for a depressing season of filming projects.
Speaker 2: Just a depressing year of films.
Speaker 1: Hopefully not up depressing year. You know, real life is
already depressing at times on its own. That's why we
talk about these things.
Speaker 2: What was the least depressing tray of the bunch for
you here?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question. It would probably have to
be Leland Stitch for me. I this is a project
that I think initially found out was coming out, and
I'm like, I don't want it.
Speaker 3: I love that original one so much.
Speaker 1: I feel like, no matter what, it'll just not get
to that level of what it is. And I just
thought in my mind like it could only be disappointing,
and I was really sour on it, and unfairly.
Speaker 3: I maybe not unfairly.
Speaker 1: Because I haven't always loved like the live action remakes
that Disney has done.
Speaker 3: But when I.
Speaker 1: Saw this first teaser, I think it was might have
been for a review, but I'm pretty sure like the
first time I saw it in theaters actually like actually
seeing Stitch and just getting like that music and everything,
it was just, yeah, it was awakening something in me.
And uh, because I like, this is a movie that
I just spammed as a kid.
Speaker 3: I absolutely lovely going Stitch.
Speaker 1: I remember watching the TV show and yeah, I just
love this this what this war it is, and god damn,
this trailer is phenomenal in my mind. I think it's
pretty much on par with How to Train Your Dragon
Live action trailer of it.
Speaker 3: Just like it.
Speaker 1: They did it like they they they're they're basically making
the same movie again, but just like with a with
a different coat of paint. And I love leven Stitch,
but I found like the character of Lelo has always
been annoyed for me just just watching it, and maybe
it's just her voice in like the animated I was
just like, I just the more I watch it, Leelo's
just annoys me. And then I hear this young actress
like doing the voice, I'm like, oh, it's like actually
exactly what the animated voice is and that's just how
a young young girl talks. So so it fits really well.
So really really impressed by I think just by the
initial uh yeah, appear.
Speaker 2: So you're annoyed by the performance centners what you're saying
in the.
Speaker 3: No, sorry, let me rephrase that.
Speaker 1: I was annoyed in the animated version because because she
was just really really whiny and she is just a
little girl. You know, Yeah they act sometimes, you know,
no no diss towards any young ladies out there, but yeah,
I think it's just a really really good casting more
or less, and uh yeah no that this looks really
really impressive and CGI looks really good. The only character
that I'm a little bit iffy on by this initial
trailer is the like agent, just because in the animated
like he's just so like massive, and I think in
my mind that's just of course who I'm going to
be picturing that character is, and it's just not really realistic.
It's not the proportion of a normal mass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a this is a thing that I've
not like I watched that movie a few times as
a kid. I really enjoyed it. I think I watched
the show maybe a little bit here there is this
always been the origin story because like I completely forgot
about this detail that Stitch is like an a alien
said down, I mean chased. Yeah, I feel like I
never I've never thought about it, and I just kind
of forgot about those details. But that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the opening of the trailer is like
basically shot for shot, like an opening of the movie
with like the spaceship design even just like yeah him
take like the red one, Like the quotes are the same,
and yeah, I'm I'm really really hyped on this one.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Nice. Yeah. I think I think Stitch the
CGI looks really good, which is really important, of course,
and you know it's always, especially for some actors, it
can be hard to act alongside a CGI creature when
that's like the project is mostly CGI creature and human
and I think, especially for a kid, that's probably an
extra thing hard, extra difficult thing to do. But I
think she's doing a pretty good job in there. I
just feel like, I guess this one for me, Like
the audience for this does seem like it's for kids,
like I don't. The humor wasn't really working for me,
just like the general type of dialogue. It seemed kind
of buy the books, pretty safe, pretty basic sort of stuff.
And I really just feel like I'm not the audience
for this, even though I really like that one back
in the day, so I don't I'm not really too
excited for this. I think it looks like really great
for that audience, Like the younger kids who like love Sonic,
I feel like they're gonna love this, But that's just
not really my bag right now. And I'm not like
so nostalgic for this that I need to see it,
even though I did like it as a kid, So
I think this one's gonna stay on the shelf for me, unfortunately,
But I feel like it has potential to to do
pretty good and have a good audience for it. So
I'm hoping for it because I think this is kind
of a one of those kind of underrated ips that
actually kind of deserves something like this, where so many
others like we just get spammed these live actual remix
I don't feel like we really need or it feels
like a waste of time, but this one does feel
like it's kind of justified. So it's cool.
Speaker 1: Well said, yeah nice' Another trailer on here. It's more
of a teaser, but uh, Life of Chuck. I thought
there was gonna be like a Chuck Chuck show for
some reason. I'm like, man, they're just totally changed his name.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's an adult now, Chucky's growing up into Chuck.
I really don't know anything.
Speaker 1: What I got from this trailer, Like, well, what I
got on this trailer is I'm enticed, but I have
no idea what's going on. And uh, but yeah, I
think it's a pretty tantalizing heezer in the sense of it.
It makes me want more, but I don't. I don't
know anything, Like it didn't reveal anything, you know. I'm
sure we'll get another full trailer. But I like the
cast list. That looks pretty powerful, and uh yeah, what
do you think about this one? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I feel like it needed a bit more of a
hook to it, like the hook just being like the director,
the people working on in like the actors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem like a great casting crew in
that way. But yeah, I feel like I I even
when I read the description of it, it's like, okay,
exploring like the life of an ordinary man, like three
different points or something. It's like, Okay, I haven't I
haven't felt that hook yet, you know, like that that
that last of us sickle. I need that thing like
stabbed into me in the gills, yeah, right, the right
behind the gills. But I haven't got that yet, So
I don't know. I gotta wait and see another actual
trailer for this rather than like a teaser or just
wait and hear some word of mouth. But it seems
like it has some serious potential to it. Uh So
it's definitely on the radar.
Speaker 3: No doubt, No doubt.
Speaker 1: Alexander Midler in the chap What do you guys think
of your frillly nab with Spider Man and Born Again?
Speaker 3: Go check out the feeds.
Speaker 1: We have reviews for both of those shows weekly weekly,
your feeling Spider Man is fully done and it's all
the feeds.
Speaker 3: Go check it out.
Speaker 2: I will say Kirkland. I've started watching it. I'm two
episodes in and it's pretty good so far. Yeah, Nico,
you like a Nico, She's pretty I don't really like
a Nico Hell yeah. Yeah, and that's a really fun dynamic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, awesome. I'm glad you're jumping into it. There's
a lot of stuff in there that I think you'll
really enjoy. And yeah, side note.
Speaker 3: What do you think about the animation?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's kind of the biggest in
between thing for people.
Speaker 2: I actually quite like it. I didn't think I did
from the trailers and stuff. I wasn't vibing with it,
and I don't really like the other like what if
art style in terms of just other I liked ninety seven,
But yeah, I'm really liking it. I don't I think
some of the stuff, like Spider Man's suit is just
the most hideous thing I've ever seen in my life.
But like, the actual animation I think is pretty solid.
There's some things like Aunt May is like looking terrifying,
Like I like, she's absolutely atrocious, Like this face is disgusting,
But like, I don't know. So there's some characters that
look weird, and you know, it's part of the style,
I guess. But like, overall, I think it's it's quite nice.
I like the colors and all that, so it's working
for me.
Speaker 1: Awesome, No, I'm I'm that makes me really happy.
Speaker 2: That was You were on the positive side visually, Oh, I.
Speaker 1: Give it a ten out of ten. That's a quick
little review. Yeah, I loved it. It's it's easily one
of my favorite Spider Man stories and which is crazy
to think because it's only one season so far.
Speaker 2: And yeah, but also the animation. You're on the positive
side of the.
Speaker 1: Animation, like, yeah, I really really love it, especially when
they get to the action sequences. It's, uh, it just
looks so good in my mind, right it. Yeah, yeah,
I'll leave it there.
Speaker 3: Go check out the reviews for what that reminded me.
Speaker 1: Actually, we didn't even do what you've been watching section
for this episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we don't normally do that on a
weekly Geek. That's more of like a standard newscast thing,
but like we don't like our standard newscast is kind
of not happening necessarily because we have Day Devil, so
I don't know. It's uh, I didn't have much, but.
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. That was your mini what you've
been wanting.
Speaker 2: That was your weekly Gek sized version of what we've
been wanting.
Speaker 3: I'm not cutting this out though. This is gonna be
its own cut of cool.
Speaker 1: Carrying on with the trailers, what else do we got
in here? I actually did not see the studio in here,
so that is my apologies. There. That's the Apple TV one.
I think Apple plus TV.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't catch which studio is making the studio,
But I think this looks really fun. It's it's a
Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg kind of scenario here, So
kind of a comedic thing about Seth Rogan's character is, uh,
you know, it's like a Saffron like James Gun type.
He's like a guy who kind of green lights or
bashes project like a movie projects and scripts and things
like that. So he's showing up on the movie sets.
He's seen what's going on there. He's distracting people, and
he's making these decisions. But it seems like, you know,
there's some good meta elements to it. Cast is really good.
You also have Han in there, Catherine O'Hara as well,
so you had some really good cast. I love Seth
Throgan almost anything. He doesn't think. He picks good projects
and things like that. So I'm pretty excited for this.
I think it looks like a lot of fun. I
didn't this is a show or a movie. I didn't
even catch that, but either way, I think it's a movie. Okay, Yeah,
I'm excited for this one. I think it looks really cool,
so I'm gonna check it out for sure.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: No, that's that's intriguing. I'm gonna have to watch the
trailer now. I like the idea and man, Catherine O'Hara,
I feel like she like she was like in Hibernation
in my mind because I I've only really attributed her
to like The Home Alone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then just Ship's Creek.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I love her characters so much. Moira, She's she is
so fantastic and.
Speaker 2: She's coming back in a big way.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a show apparently, Detour said, So there you go.
You get more content there, Yeah, shouts out to you.
Cool carrying on, We've got I didn't watch the black
Beer trailer.
Speaker 3: Assume you didn't watch the U trailer unless you did.
Speaker 2: I did. I did. Okay, Do I know what's going on?
Absolutely not, but I think.
Speaker 3: I've watched You're not alone.
Speaker 1: I actually that this is This is one that came
out a while ago now, and I actually am having
a hard time. So this is another one I'm gonna
have to do like a recap of the again. I
remember the main hitting points, but I think I kind
of want to do of like everything up until this point,
just to remind me of like season one and season two.
I'm not Travis, you know. I can't just power through
these shows like a madman. Lead enough to it, right,
But yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna do my best to
get that other one because I did really like the
previous season.
Speaker 2: So season one, I remember everything is going on there,
the bookshop, the thing in the basements. Light spoilers here
us is season two with love or is? Or was
that a two season? Arc with two and three.
Speaker 3: That was two seasons.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so I think I've seen and then season
four was that the one where it's like he goes
off to like this university.
Speaker 3: Thing and like the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I've I have not caught up with
season four, so I'm a little behind the times. I
recognize the one character in this trailer that they showed
a quick glimpse of. I think, just like a I
don't I assume that character is dead. I don't even know,
but like the the characters obsessed with that season, so
I don't know what's going on there. But yeah, I
guess it's a finale. I'm just you know, I liked
the show is all right, it kind of has his
ups and downs. Obviously, I have not caught up with it.
I am very excited for it to be done, though,
just so we can get Penn badgely like doing other things,
because I'm just so excited for him to go work
in other projects. And I feel like he's built up
like a pretty big name. And obviously he might be
type cast for a bit as like the creepy serial
killing type guy, but you know, if he just does
more of that I'm down, but I'm really excited to
see him in non u stuff because I still don't
think i've seen him anything maybe in like a small
role here or there. But yeah, I'm excited for this
show to be done so I can get some new
Badgely content in my life.
Speaker 1: No, that's that's great. I completely agree with you. I
think I think it's a great place to end just
five seasons for like many shows, is just such a
healthy area.
Speaker 3: To end on.
Speaker 1: And I I've seen him in Gossip Girl in the
past because she loves that show, and he's just nowhere
near the level of of where.
Speaker 3: He's at in Uh in You.
Speaker 1: I I think just the different range that he has
in You is really enticing. And just because he is
such a a character you you want to hate uh
because he is a terrible guy. I I'm excited to
see Penn Badgeley's next appearances and and you can just
see what else he would be appearing and pair him
up with some like just fucked up eight twenty fourth
thing or something. Oh yeah, let's get crazy, even like
a yr Ros. There you go, get get get a
pair of.
Speaker 2: Him your goos, Mikey Madison. That's that's what you did.
But I got that's what I want to see. That's
the movie concoction. I want get in there again. Yeah,
that's that's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: Father son pair up. Willing Dafoe is the father of
Penn Badgeley. Let's go people. Yeah, but yeah, no, I
I I'm excited to get into the show again just
for like the level what Penn Badgeley brings. I think
there was moments of season four I really didn't like,
but then there's moments that just totally grip me and
have me really really hyped on. And I have pretty
decent expectations for the season. I'm hoping that they ended
off in a good way. I think them just kind
of hinting at people potentially on his heels, you know,
Like there's a couple little interviews like I know that
this man killed my best friend, so I'm hoping for
a potential courtroom type scene like always always bring up
with Dexter and stuff like that. So I'm hoping that
they sent off the character right and he better not
just get off scot free because second characters just having
plot armor and invincibility. But they have said that in
the end and I feel like he's also ready for
it to be done. You know, I'm sure he's getting
paid well, but let's see what else he can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, And for anyone who likes that show, we
have reviews for every season. Do we review season one
as well? Or do we jump on the train a
bit later that.
Speaker 3: One might have been like an early one. I don't
think I was on that. I jumped into the show
a little bit later. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would have to check. So, I mean, there you go.
That's how long the show's been going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't even remember. It has been going on for
a while. But go check that out. Should I jump
into some black mirror.
Speaker 3: Here a little bitlease? Yes? Take us away?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so around season seven, which is insane. I don't
know how that happened, all out of nowhere. This is
the show I really enjoy. I think it has a
ton of great episodes, kind of anthology series, technology focused stuff,
you know, like near future concepts, things that are kind
of freaky because they could be real in five to
ten years. That's kind of the vibe of the show.
Very dark. Of course, it's a show that's kind of
gotten worse as it's gone along generally speaking, but not
like significantly worse. I just feel like some of the
earlier seasons had so much like stronger episodes, and all
my favorites would be from those earlier seasons, Like in particular,
I think season six was probably my least favorite, and
then my second least it would be like season five.
So like, it's definitely you know, the traductory is going
downwards a little bit interesting things. And I can't really
remember like what other trailers were like for previous Black
Mirror seasons, but this was a particularly strange trailer to
me for a couple of reasons. One, you know, I
knew one of the things that was announced is that
we're getting like a sequel episode I guess to the
USS Calister episode, which is one of the best episodes
from I think season maybe three or four something like that.
So we're getting a sequel to that in here, And
they show very quick shots of that, not a whole lot,
just like a couple of quick glimpses, and you see
one or two of the actors from that episode in here,
So that's interesting. But then other than that US Callister stuff,
it all kind of looked like one episode to me,
and that's where I was getting a little confused, like I
couldn't differentiate like which story was which, And obviously they
were kind of spliced in between these different things, so
it seemed way more interconnected than the previous seasons has been.
But then it's still said, like whatever, it was five
or six episodes, like five or six standalone episodes, So
I guess it's still it's not interconnected. Maybe there's just
the themes of it are interconnecting them a little bit.
So curious to see what's going on there because it's
kind of always been assumed that a lot of these
stories take place in the same world world. There's kind
of one episode that's like a museum or something like
that that features different items from the different episodes, but
for the most part, like they are just standalone things,
standalone actors. The other thing here that kind of adds
on top of that is that Will Poulter is in
here for a brief second, and he was in Bandersnatch,
like the Black Marble movie, like the interactive thing, and
it looks like he's playing the same character as well,
like kind of a freaky, weird, nerdy guy with like
blonde long blonde hair, which is a funny role. So
I guess we're also getting either a sequel to that
or just like that'll appear as like a minor story
and another one of these things. So yeah, like kind
of some new things for Black Mirror in that way
in terms of maybe being more interconnected and more sequally
type things. But then on top of that, it does
seem like it has its own, like just fresh news stories.
So I would say I'm quite excited for this. I
didn't love bandersnatch, but Uss Callister is great, so I'm
curious to see those sequels and how they do try
and tie them back, and I might have to rewatch
some of those things as well. And then of course
the cast for these shows is always fantastic. You know
a lot of people I feel like who worn'ked big
stars are big stars now, but in this one, like
they have Emmacorn in there, Rashida Jones, Paul Giamadi's in there, Aquafina,
So some really interesting castings that I think are gonna
be really fun pairings for this. So yeah, I'm I'm
excited for this, I think after yeah, having a couple
lower tier seasons I think I'm still excited for Black
Mirror and what it's got going on. So yeah, we'll
see what happens with this. I forget what the release
date was, but I'll definitely be checking out. And yeah,
I think we have reviews for maybe not the first
season or two once again, maybe we picked up the
train a bit later, but we definitely have reviews for
most of the season, so people can go check that
out if they're looking for that Black Mirror.
Speaker 1: Fix right on. Yeah, no, I didn't watch this trailer.
I've only seen one episode of Black Mirror. It's a
series I do want to cross off my list at
some point. Do you think it's the type of show
that you have to watch every season? Like, like you said,
they are kind of standalonees, but then they somewhat branch together,
Like is it just like heavy seasons that they're all
bangers certain episodes or bangers, But maybe yeah.
Speaker 2: I really, I really think you could just pick individual
episodes and just like when you're cruising down on Netflix,
like I think the first season is only three episodes
or something like, you know, it kind of expanded and
I think there are most of them around five or
six episodes. But think you literally just scroll through the
different seasons pick the ones that look the most interesting
to you. Because until this season, as I said, like,
we've never had a direct sequel to an episode. You
maybe have allusions to, like a greater world, but not
things that you would need to that I would say, oh,
you got to watch you know this one and then
that one. So yeah, yeah, I think this might be
the one exception season of that, with these two episodes
that seem to play off previous stories. But otherwise I
think you should just pick ones that look interesting, or
just if you actually do want to watch it and
you're sitting down, just message me or Travis or drop
in the discord and say, hey, hey, which episodes should
I watch and we can give you a recommendation. And
also there's like different flavors too. There are more chill
like fun ones, and there are almost that are super dark,
and there's somethings that are like maybe half an hour
and some of them are like our hour twenty like
they really there's a ton of variety in terms of
what you get there, so you can kind of pick
and choose depending on what your vibe biz in that
given moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool right on.
Speaker 1: Well, oh, actually there's a patron question by Yeah God
Loves Me sixty nine.
Speaker 3: I almost forget take it away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, are there any actors actresses you'd like
to see in the new season of Black Mirror? Yeah.
I mean, I'm guessing all the big ones were kind
of already revealed or shown off here. But I guess
just answering this question like future, let's say there's a
season eight or something that's coming out. I mean, I
guess people that have just like I think the first
one that came to mind was Quality, just because she's
done some weirder things like like you know, obviously Substance
as a recent example, but like also death Strain, and
I feel like she is really good in this weird
sci fi world, and obviously she just has incredible range
as an actress. So that was the first one that
came to mind, which I kind of love that for her,
that she's like the first actor that came to mind
to like be a Black Mirror character. She might have
already been in an episode that's just kind of one
of those shows. I'm like, oh yeah, paulm clement Tief,
she was in there for like some random thing. Like,
there's all sorts of people that have been in these things,
so she's the first one that comes to mind. Who
are some other good like actors who have done some
like freakier things. I feel like I also just want
like like the Phoebe Denivers of the world, like these
people who haven't seen him much yet, but just give
them like a really spicy episode. Uh yeah, they can
lead in. I think I'd be down for something like that.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't even watch the show, but just coming
off with Mickey seventeen, I think Tony is just like
Okay okay or Pattison, like, like any of those would
fit so well in like the that would be great.
But yea, even Ruffalo's character in that and Poor Things,
I just I love them in this goofy realm.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Tony.
Speaker 2: Off of off of Civil War, give me, give me
Christan Dunce, give me a h Kle Spainey. I think
those could be good fits as well. Yeah, I think
those could be some good fits. Yeah, pretty much anyone.
Like I feel like there's there's some Blackmare episode that
could fit for any any particular actor. But I think
people who are in like do some good sci fi stuff,
do some freaky things. I don't know anyone who's been
like an r aster movie. I've put them in a
black Mirror episode as you mentioned Tony Collett as a
good example.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, what's the name David David Anthony? What is
not the name Anthony?
Speaker 3: David? Oh my gosh, Aleen Romless guy the Andre.
Speaker 2: David Johnson, David Johnson.
Speaker 3: There you go is my new Peter Saffron. There's just
certain names that I mean.
Speaker 2: David Johnson, highly generic name, so I can't blame you
that one. So you'll get there eventually.
Speaker 3: Change your name, sir? Anything else? Can we get out
of here? No?
Speaker 2: Let let us know who you want to see in
the black and specifically, God loves me. I want to
I want to know who you want to see in here.
But yeah, I'm excited for this show again, which is
I didn't think I would be. But you know, they
got me. They got me again, they always do. They
wrote me back in So I'll be there, I'll watch it,
I'll review it.
Speaker 1: He sign of a good trailer, you know, they got
you behind.
Speaker 2: The gills, behind the gills.
Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much. For
hanging out with us. Tonight, we got the Whaler, just
closing this one out in the weekly episode. Check us out.
I'll keep your eyes on the feeds for I don't
even know what our next. Oh we got after nine.
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can't wait to talk to you guys until then, We'll
see you then.
Speaker 3: Bye.