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<v Speaker 1>Calorouga, shark, media ballo and welcome to Palace Intrigue. I

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<v Speaker 1>am your host, Mark francis complete with summer allergies, so

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<v Speaker 1>please bear with me. A newly decoded exchange between Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Harry and Meghan Markle is raising fresh questions about just

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<v Speaker 1>how early the couple may have begun plotting their royal departure.

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<v Speaker 1>According to a new Channel five documentary titled Lipreading the Royals,

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<v Speaker 1>the secret conversations the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were

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<v Speaker 1>overheard via lipreading during the solemn event at Westminster Abbey

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen. The occasion was the Service of Remembrance

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<v Speaker 1>marking one hundred years since the end of the First

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<v Speaker 1>World War, a formal moment with the entire royal family

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<v Speaker 1>in attendance, including Queen Elizabeth. But while the cameras captured

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<v Speaker 1>polished expressions and respectful silence, lipreading expert Nicola Hickling says

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<v Speaker 1>something else entirely was unfolding in hushed tones between the Sussexes.

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<v Speaker 1>She claims Meghan quietly told Harry to take advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>the situation, prompting him to ask today. Her reply, do

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<v Speaker 1>it tonight? Then, in what has become the documentary's most

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<v Speaker 1>startling moment, Harry is said to ask, you do realize

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<v Speaker 1>that this is the end, to which Megan reportedly responds, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do know. Harry's recent solo visit to Angola highlighted

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<v Speaker 1>his commitment to a life of service, but it may

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<v Speaker 1>have also brought about a quiet personal reckoning. Royal expert

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny Bond reflected on the significance of the visit, telling

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<v Speaker 1>the Mirror, I think this is precisely the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>work that Harry should do. It's not only a hugely

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<v Speaker 1>worthwhile cause, but it also connects him with his mother,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something he yearns for. Bond went further, suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>that the trip marks a shift in Prince Harry's priorities

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps his self perception. I think he is coming

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize that the la celebrity world is one in

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<v Speaker 1>which he is not especially comfort and he seems quite

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<v Speaker 1>willing to let Megan take the limelight over there. Harry's

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<v Speaker 1>trip took him to a remote village near Africa's largest minefield,

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<v Speaker 1>where he met with families living in the shadow of

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<v Speaker 1>the long buried explosives. The scene echoed the now iconic

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety seven images of Princess Diana walking through the

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<v Speaker 1>minefield in Angola wearing a protective vest and viasor just

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<v Speaker 1>months before her tragic death. For Sky News, Rhennon Mills writes,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't help feel Harry's team are trying to push

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<v Speaker 1>the reset button. The unexpected headlines around Harry just keep coming,

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<v Speaker 1>as when he popped up in Angola his second visit there,

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<v Speaker 1>this time with no press pack in toe, So why

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<v Speaker 1>the surprise visit. Harry has worked with the Halo Trust

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<v Speaker 1>for some time and it's clearly still a priority for

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<v Speaker 1>them to highlight the dangers faced by those living with

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<v Speaker 1>the potential dangers of land mines in Angola, but it

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<v Speaker 1>also feels like part of a push to get Harry

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<v Speaker 1>out on more public engagements. Some think Princess Anne might

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<v Speaker 1>be the one that can bring Harry back into the

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<v Speaker 1>fold by talking some sense into him. A source told

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<v Speaker 1>The Times she often talked about how as children she

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<v Speaker 1>was treated so differently from Charles. She was second to

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<v Speaker 1>him and kicked further down the line of succession as

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, but she forged her own path. In her twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>she was boldly an upset about a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 1>but she came through that he should talk to her

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<v Speaker 1>about her experiences. She is shrewd. She could tell him

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about what she went through. Will Harry and

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<v Speaker 1>Charles meet again? Royal biographer Tom Bawer thinks perhaps not

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<v Speaker 1>saying whether they'll meet again in Charles' lifetime depends on

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<v Speaker 1>how long Charles lives. I couldn't say never, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Charles wants to meet his son, but so much

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<v Speaker 1>depends on how Harry behaves. Harry is seriously worried that

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<v Speaker 1>when his father dies one day, William will literally banish

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<v Speaker 1>him and he will have no status in Britain at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He will be person and non grata. Harry needs a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with Charles to show he is part of the

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<v Speaker 1>royal family and to establish his credibility in Britain, but

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<v Speaker 1>as long as the Palace won't give him access to Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't take the first step. They suspect that the

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<v Speaker 1>moment he meets Charles, he will use it to establish

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<v Speaker 1>his credibility, because that's what he desperately needs, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>also why he's kept away. My money would absolutely be

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<v Speaker 1>no if he did meet him, it would be in private.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot depends on charles health. That is the unspoken

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<v Speaker 1>issue in Britain today. Because Charles will be in Scotland,

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<v Speaker 1>the question is will Harry be invited up to Scotland.

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<v Speaker 1>My guess is no. The interview he gave after he

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<v Speaker 1>lost the security case and accused the establishment of a

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<v Speaker 1>stitch up showed that he's completely uncontrollable. He is unpredictable

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<v Speaker 1>and his own worst enemy. But he fears that once

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<v Speaker 1>Charles dies he will get no help from William. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised if William won't have him at his coronation.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles health is the prime concern and William's succession is

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing. Harry's problems are irrelevant and they are

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<v Speaker 1>irritated by him. Harry can't just arrive at the palace

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<v Speaker 1>and see his father. When Harry was in Britain at

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<v Speaker 1>the time charles visit to France was canceled because of

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<v Speaker 1>the riots, there was ample time to meet and one

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<v Speaker 1>would assume charles diary was empty, but Harry was told

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<v Speaker 1>his diary was full and he couldn't see him. He

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<v Speaker 1>can't even get him on the phone because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>trust him, and they're angry with him. They don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>his motivations. Megan is tired of it all. She wants

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<v Speaker 1>it to be over. She doesn't give two hoots about

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. It puts a great strain on their marriage

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<v Speaker 1>and their relationship because Harry frets and becomes very unhappy

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<v Speaker 1>about it all. Megan wants to get on, build herself

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<v Speaker 1>up as a television personality and have nothing more to

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<v Speaker 1>do with Britain at all. It doesn't interest her. In

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<v Speaker 1>The Independent, Tessa Dunlop writes, the mirroring in recent history

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<v Speaker 1>is spooky. After the nineteen thirty six abdication, stumbling George

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth never resumed a normal relationship with his charming

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<v Speaker 1>callo brother Edward the eighth, who also wrote a biography,

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<v Speaker 1>but emotionally is not on one way street, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Prince of Wales would be foolish to take his familial

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<v Speaker 1>cues from the unbending social structures of a bygone era. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>william sits at the heart of Britain's most revered institution,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the face of recent domestic adversity, enjoys enormous

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<v Speaker 1>public sympathy, but moods can change. As a nation, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how much we verbally kick Harry, affections run deep

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<v Speaker 1>beneath it all. What really rankled was the Sussex's rejection

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<v Speaker 1>of our most revered institution. Likewise, William surely knows that

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<v Speaker 1>one day he must rediscover his affection for his younger sibling,

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<v Speaker 1>protected by a preordained sovereign destiny. The longer he withholds

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<v Speaker 1>the olive branch, the more churlish it could start to look.

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<v Speaker 1>At the moment, King Charles is Harry's best hope, and

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<v Speaker 1>even then Sussex returned to the sunlit uplands of royalty

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<v Speaker 1>may well prove short lived. For the Duke to make

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<v Speaker 1>a meaningful comeback, good relations are required on two levels,

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<v Speaker 1>with his father King and with his older brother, the

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<v Speaker 1>future King. William is not a man for turns, unless

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<v Speaker 1>the spare knows all too well, one day the Prince

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<v Speaker 1>of Wales will have all the power but impressive kingship.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all, good leadership requires flexibility. If at the moment

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<v Speaker 1>Harry steals all the negative headlines, it will be history

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<v Speaker 1>that judges William his more powerful older brother only by

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely forgiving and including the spare, will he be able

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<v Speaker 1>to boast that his reign as the requisite hallmarks a

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<v Speaker 1>modern monarchy, compassion and magnanimity, And most important of all,

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<v Speaker 1>he will know it is what Diana, his mother, the

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<v Speaker 1>self proclaimed Queen of Hearts, would have wanted. More palatin,

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<v Speaker 1>just a moment. Hey, don't forget. A new episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Crown and Controversy comes out tomorrow Sunday. It's our new

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<v Speaker 1>spinoff series and kind of takes off where the Crown

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<v Speaker 1>on TV left off, and you can get that wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you get your podcasts. Crown and Controversy. It's available now.

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<v Speaker 1>Harry did receive a rather unexpected show of public support,

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<v Speaker 1>this time from European Royalty Princess Delphine of Belgium, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>on the Its Reigning Men podcast, that said, they lost

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<v Speaker 1>such an important figure, and I feel very sorry for

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<v Speaker 1>Harry because I think that was traumatic for him. She

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<v Speaker 1>was referring, of course, to the death of Princess Diana

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<v Speaker 1>when Harry was just twelve years old. Delphine went on,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Harry suffered so much, and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was traumatized, and it's coming out now. He's just traumatized.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing these things, and everybody's bullying him but not

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about his trauma. I just find it terrible because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's just been kind of left. Delphine

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<v Speaker 1>herself has personal experience navigating royal tensions. She discovered in

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<v Speaker 1>adulthood that her biological father was King Albert the Second

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<v Speaker 1>of Belgium, and endured a year's long legal battle before

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<v Speaker 1>finally being recognized as a member of the Belgian royal

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<v Speaker 1>family in twenty twenty. And there you have it. Tact

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