WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:02.200 Hello again, Welcome back. 2 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:06.480 My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked 3 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:07.519 and Grim, a. 4 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:17.160 True crime podcast morning. The following podcast material in more 5 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:46.960 mature audience. Listener discretion is advised. Dun d. We're back, yes, micube, Yeah, 6 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.359 it happens, says uh, says you. Every episode you're bumping 7 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:50.719 your mic. 8 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:52.560 Yeah. But also people can't even hear it. 9 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:56.079 That's true. So that's because I put noise reduction in there. 10 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:56.679 Good work. 11 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:59.560 I know, I'm trying. Good job, trying. I'm trying. In 12 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:01.840 the Podcas guest in Daily Life. You know, the spring 13 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:04.239 cleaning's coming out, and I've been trying to get things 14 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:05.599 together around the house, but it's hard. 15 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:08.560 We're trying to get our shit together. Yeah, but it's 16 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:10.079 not really very successful. 17 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:13.640 I mean we're trying. That's what counts, right, because. 18 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:15.200 We have a big move coming up. I don't know 19 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:17.480 if these people know that, but where are I think 20 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:19.799 we've kind of like we've touched on it slightly, but 21 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.040 we're moving into a tiny home in the summer. 22 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.040 Yeah, so we're going like full on, like on wheels 23 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:28.680 and everything. We have a piece of land selected right 24 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.200 now currently and this house that we're in is going 25 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:33.040 to be going up for sales soon Full. 26 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:36.719 Glass Lifestyle Change, my friends Lass Lifestyle Change. Yeah. 27 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:38.439 Yeah, Well this house is too big for us because 28 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:41.480 it's just you and me and it's what three bedrooms up. 29 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:44.560 We got another bedroom going in downstairs with potential more 30 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:48.040 that could be made the three bathrooms double garage. 31 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:50.079 I mean, we didn't think it was too big at 32 00:01:50.120 --> 00:01:52.680 one point, but then it's a lot of cleaning and 33 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.599 we rather just like travel and live life than need 34 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:57.280 a big house. 35 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.239 Really sit in our little tiny home cottage off in 36 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:02.040 the country talking about murderers. 37 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:02.719 Yeah. 38 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:04.280 Podcast, Oh my goodness. 39 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:06.120 It's gonna be so fun, our first podcast that we 40 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:06.879 record in there. 41 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:08.680 Oh, we should like see if we can have something 42 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.960 that really pertains to like an RV or like a 43 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:12.879 small cabin. 44 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:16.159 Does anyone have any suggestion. 45 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.199 Oh that that'd be good. There's like a cabin in 46 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:20.879 the Is there something that's like really spawn like horror 47 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:22.360 movies like Cabin in the Woods. 48 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:26.159 Actually, that's a terrible idea. You want to traumatize me? 49 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:30.159 I think great, it would be a great way to 50 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:32.120 break in our first episode in the tiny home. 51 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:34.719 It would. Yeah, we're starting to buy things for it, 52 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:37.479 like at a little dot handheld dice in a little 53 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:41.360 mosquito stuff because the mosquito's out there are horrific. 54 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:43.759 Yeah, and we're looking into a lot of things like 55 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:46.560 water tanks and hauling in gravels for the lot and 56 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:49.800 power those sort of things, and of course getting rid 57 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.000 of all of our excess stuff that we don't need. 58 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:54.960 So we're doing a lot of donations and selling on Facebook, 59 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:58.680 which is a horrific experience because people do not ever 60 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:02.680 ever like follow the listing at all. It's ridiculous. 61 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:05.680 I bet you there's a true crime thing for selling 62 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.479 shit on Facebook. Oh I bet, because I think people 63 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:10.680 like have set people up and ship I should find one. 64 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:14.120 Well, I do know that people like they'll they'll definitely 65 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:15.840 like set someone up and be like, oh you know, 66 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:18.080 I'll buy this off you or I've got this for sale, 67 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:19.960 and then when people get money, they just like remove 68 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:22.479 off Facebook block and they just go completely a wall 69 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:24.280 and just steal the money. So that's the thing that 70 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:25.879 happens I know a lot. I see it on Facebook 71 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:27.240 all the time where people get scammed. 72 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.919 Oh yeah, because people are kind of a whole sometimes. 73 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:30.960 Yeah, so it's got to. 74 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:32.719 Be our people. Our people are good. 75 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:34.879 What do you mean our people? 76 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:35.800 Our listeners? 77 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.000 Okay, okay, I was like, I don't know family or 78 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.120 is that a racist comment? No, I know you want 79 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:40.719 to be racist. 80 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:43.439 That was the opposite of what I was being. 81 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:45.479 I would just like, we mean by our people, like 82 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:46.560 who are the listener? 83 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:49.199 I just see like our listeners are good people. 84 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:51.439 Well so far anyways, we definitely have some cool listeners 85 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:53.879 out there, so a plus, you guys are being super 86 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:54.680 cool and awesome. 87 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:57.840 Thank you. Yeah, yeah, So what do you got in 88 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:00.120 store for us today? Man? 89 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.000 I have a crazy case. Okay, but this one's not 90 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:07.159 like crazy as in what we've done recently, our last 91 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:09.280 few episodes, we've done a lot of like murders, a 92 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:12.199 lot of gruesome stuff. So I kind of wanted to 93 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:14.000 take a bit of a left turn and not go 94 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:18.759 quite so gruesome and horrific, more of just like, how 95 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.279 is this possible? What the f happened? So we got 96 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:24.839 an unsolved case. There is no deaths that we know 97 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:29.680 of in this case, but it's a big old mystery, 98 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:31.000 a major crime. 99 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:34.959 I know you do. I'm surprised you have done more. 100 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:37.680 So this is very much so kind of like the 101 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:40.720 Mad Trapper of Rat River, where we just don't know 102 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:44.680 who this guy is very similar because this is the 103 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:50.560 case of the infamous dB Cooper. Have you heard of 104 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:52.519 dB Cooper prior to me talking about it? 105 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:54.120 No idea? No, is that bad? 106 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:58.680 Probably because this is one of the greatest unsolved mysteries 107 00:04:59.000 --> 00:04:59.680 in FBI. 108 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.560 His huh, it's drinking. 109 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:05.519 It's it's pretty intense. Okay, So you're ready. 110 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:07.360 I'm ready for you to entertain us. 111 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:08.959 I'm you ready for the entertainment. 112 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:10.079 I need some entertainment. 113 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:14.480 Ready, spaghetti, Let's dive in and do something that runs 114 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:20.120 with spaghetti. I don't know, okay. On the afternoon of 115 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:24.040 November twenty fourth in nineteen seventy one, a middle aged 116 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:28.759 man carrying a briefcase entered the Northwest Orient Airlines Airport 117 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:33.959 in Portland, Oregon. He identified himself as Dan Cooper. He 118 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:38.240 cashed buy a one way ticket bound for Seattle, Washington, and, 119 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:41.279 along with thirty six other passengers and a flight crew 120 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:44.560 of six, he boarded flight number three oh five. 121 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.199 That's not those Portland and Seattle are not far from 122 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:48.240 each other at all, are they? 123 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:50.319 No? No, none at all? Oh okay, but I mean 124 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:52.240 there's there's connecting flights all over the place, right. 125 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:53.879 Yeah. I love Portland and Seattle. 126 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:56.160 Actually they're nice areas. I've got lots of beer and 127 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:58.759 the coffee. They're really known for the coffee there too, So. 128 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:00.600 You should love that place hundred percent. 129 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:02.519 Definitely. Well, we've been there once. 130 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:05.000 Portland once, Seattle. I've been a few times. 131 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.199 I've been to Seattle once and it was only for 132 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:10.000 Emerald City Comic Con because I'm a big nerdy. 133 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:11.079 You went with me too. 134 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:12.279 Did we go through Seattle? 135 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:14.519 He did. We stopped there for an afternoon and like 136 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:18.920 stopped at crab Pot and went to that's right right. 137 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:21.079 For some reason, I was thinking that was in Portland still, 138 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:22.839 But no, you're right, yeah, because we were right on 139 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:25.319 the I don't what you call it, but like the 140 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:28.600 coast there with all the like the ferris wheel and stuff. 141 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:30.639 I know, I don't know what it's called. I should 142 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.040 know what it's called. But it's an awesome area. 143 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:36.360 Yeah, it's gorgeous. Okay, So I've been there twice. Okay, Okay, 144 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.480 but so far, Dan Cooper doesn't sound like a terrible dude. 145 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.160 He's just a regular dude going on an airplane right. 146 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:43.000 Yeah. 147 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.680 So on board the flight, Cooper sat in the middle 148 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:48.319 seat in the very last row on the right hand 149 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:51.279 side of the cabin. Cooper was a quiet man who 150 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:54.279 appeared to be in his mid forties, wearing a business suit, 151 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:58.600 a black tie, white shirt, and once he boarded the plane, 152 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:01.480 he wore a pair of black horn rim sunglasses. 153 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:03.680 Wow, he sounds like a badass. 154 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:06.839 I mean he's definitely looking like it right now. Definitely 155 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:09.040 kind of like got that men in black vibe going on. 156 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:09.800 Yeah, totally. 157 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:14.199 So before takeoff, he ordered himself a drink because I mean, 158 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:16.480 you know, we're in the seventies here, right, So he 159 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:20.800 ordered it himself ordered He ordered himself a bourbon and soda, 160 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:22.160 and then lit a cigarette. 161 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:24.160 Oh my goodness, on the airplane. 162 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.600 On the airplane is that shit allowed in the seventies yet? 163 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.399 Holy shit. I couldn't imagine being on an airplane someone's smoking. 164 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:33.040 That's nice total. I believe he smoked eight cigarettes. Gosh, 165 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.959 so a short time after a short time after three pm. Sorry. 166 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:41.279 During takeoff, he handed a stewardess by the name of Florence. 167 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:43.560 I'm terrible with names, but I'm gonna try this here. 168 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:48.519 Florence Schaeffer a note. The note read quote, and I can't. 169 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.079 I could never find confirmed quotes. So this is a 170 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:56.519 quote I think is proper. Okay, miss I have a 171 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:58.680 bomb here. I would like you to sit by me. 172 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:06.879 Some pump thing going off again. Maybe that's like the 173 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:07.720 drum roll. 174 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:12.879 Right, Maybe that denoising dropped there. So she was stunned 175 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:14.519 and she did what she was told. 176 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:16.800 Okay, so sorry. The note said, miss I have a bomb. 177 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:18.879 Miss I have a bomb here, and I would like 178 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:19.720 you to sit by me. 179 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:23.600 Oh shit, So like I. 180 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.399 Said, she stunned and she did what she was told. 181 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:28.360 She sat next to Cooper and the briefcase he was 182 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.160 carrying was opened and Cooper showed her a glimpse of 183 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:35.000 a massive wires and eight red sticks of dynamite. He 184 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.720 then demanded that she write down what he told her. 185 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:40.919 As a plane gained altitude. She soon was walking to 186 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:45.360 the cabin or sorry, the cockpit of the plane with 187 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:48.759 a note that said, I want two hundred thousand dollars 188 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:51.840 by five pm in cash. Put it in a knapsack. 189 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:56.720 I want two backpack parachutes and two front parachutes when 190 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:59.799 we land. I want a fuel truck ready to refuel 191 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.200 no funny stuff, or I'll do the job. So that's 192 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.039 what she delivered to the pilot. 193 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:07.200 So does he want that fricking money by the time 194 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:07.759 they land? 195 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.720 Pray much, you're getting a little bit ahead here, Yeah, 196 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:14.200 that's what he wants prepared by the time they land. 197 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:18.519 That's quite the fucking demand, right, So. 198 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:21.679 This is it's pretty intense what's going on. And during 199 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:24.639 the flight, the flight attendant by the name of Tina 200 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:30.200 Mucklow took her place beside beside Cooper as the other 201 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.080 stewardess made her way to the front right, and she 202 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:36.440 was now Cooper's point person, relaying messages over the phones 203 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:39.519 the plane's inner phone back and forth between him and 204 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.159 the cockpit for the next hour and a half, because, 205 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.000 like you said, Seattle and Portland are very close, right, yeah, 206 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.879 so when need to arrive to its destination. Over the 207 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.919 next hour and a half, the plane maintained a holding 208 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:56.200 pattern above Seattle while ground crews arranged the fueling truck 209 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:59.679 and authorities produced a ransom and four parachutes. 210 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.600 Good lord, so they're actually like listening to him. 211 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.000 Well, he's got a plane full of thirty six passengers 212 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:07.279 and six crew members and a. 213 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:09.879 Bomb, I guess, but like, how do they know for 214 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:11.200 sure that's a legit bomb? 215 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:14.039 Well better than rolling the dice. 216 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:15.440 Right, touche toche. 217 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:19.840 So what the authorities got together was ten thousand dollars 218 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:24.320 in sorry, ten twenty dollars bills. They were collected from 219 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:27.039 a nearby bank, and four shoots were supplied by a 220 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:30.279 skydiving school. Now, the money collected from the bank was 221 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.039 like a previously collected thing that was already set aside 222 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:36.480 just in case of a scenario just like this. Oh okay, 223 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:40.159 So the bank had already recorded the serial numbers and 224 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:44.919 they were documented. Every single bill was able to be traced. 225 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:46.480 That's smart, yep. 226 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:49.200 So they were on the ball ready just in case. 227 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:53.440 Right now, the four shoots is actually pretty significant here, 228 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:56.440 because why would one dude need four parishies? 229 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:58.639 Yeah, I was kind of wondering that actually, So. 230 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:00.879 What it is here is the front parachute and a 231 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.799 back parachute. One is a primary and one is a secondary, 232 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:08.000 So one person will wear two shutes. Okay, okay, Now 233 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:12.360 him asking for four led the FBI to believe he's 234 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:16.919 planning on taking a hostage. Ah, so they never tampered 235 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:18.720 with the parachutes at all. They didn't want to risk 236 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:23.120 the life of a civilian, so they supplied what they 237 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:29.200 thought were four adequate, untampered with parachutes. This is a 238 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:31.919 little bit of information that's kind of not necessary, but 239 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:33.879 I'll say it now. One of these shots they actually 240 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:36.279 did supply, one of the backup ones, was actually a 241 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:37.919 dummy shoote. They didn't even realize it. 242 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:40.720 But oh so it wouldn't go off, then it wouldn't. 243 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:44.320 Yeah, it was a dummy hute Ooh, it's kind of irrelevant. 244 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:46.039 But huh. 245 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.279 Okay. So by five forty five, Flight three oh five 246 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:55.720 finally made its landing in Seattle the hijacker exchange of 247 00:11:55.759 --> 00:12:00.480 flight passengers hijacker being Cooper. Yeah, so those thirty six passengers, 248 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:02.360 most of which didn't even know that there was a 249 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:03.519 hijacking that happened. 250 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:06.240 Okay, seriously, that was one question I had, like, do 251 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:07.879 these people know that something's up? 252 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:09.679 No, most of them didn't even know. Of course, they 253 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:10.639 would know that they're. 254 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.639 Circling well and that they're latest. Heck, like you think, Okay, 255 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:14.279 but I'm sure that. 256 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:16.559 The pilot was able to keep things under control. Cooper 257 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.320 was being very discreet about the whole thing most didn't even, 258 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:24.120 which is no good. Oh, definitely, So he exchanged the 259 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:27.159 thirty six passengers and two flight attendants for the money 260 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:31.879 in parachutes. So he did keep four of the crew members. Okay, 261 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:35.639 So once refueled, they were on ground for a little 262 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:38.799 while here because it was apparently complication with refueling. But 263 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:41.759 once refueled, the plane took off again at seven thirty 264 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:46.200 six PM. Cooper then ordered a non stop course from 265 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:47.720 Mexico City. 266 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:49.919 Oh, he knew where he wanted to go. 267 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.960 He had an exact destination. He instructed they were to 268 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.519 fly the plane with the landing gear down, the wing 269 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:59.480 flaps at fifteen degrees, and that they were to stay 270 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:03.240 below ten thousand feet altitude. He also instructed that the 271 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:05.840 lights in the cabin were to remain off and the 272 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.120 stairway for the plane to be left open. 273 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:09.799 Shit. 274 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:14.279 So this is also important here to notify that the 275 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:17.919 stairway for the plane on this model a Boeing. I 276 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:19.759 can't remember the model. I have it later here in 277 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:22.559 the notes. Give it a quick search Boeing three thirty 278 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:25.240 seven or something like that. We'll run into the exact 279 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.759 model a little little later here. So on this specific 280 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:30.960 model of plane. The stairs were located on the underside 281 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:34.360 of the plane, facing backwards, so facing the back of 282 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:34.840 the plane. 283 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:39.799 Interesting, Okay, so yeah, we'll get into them to visualize that. 284 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:45.080 That's different, right, yeah, it's not normal. Yeah, sure, Okay, Now. 285 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.480 There are two issues with his requests. A NonStop flight 286 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:51.000 to Mexico City just wasn't possible. 287 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:54.159 They have to refuel, right, Oh okay, that's quite a distance. 288 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.919 Oh, definitely, because you're going from like Northern States to Mexico. 289 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:00.559 Yeah, that's the journey. 290 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.039 Yeah, and on this side of the plane and everything. 291 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.240 Just yeah. So anyways, there was some debate about where 292 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.960 they were going to land for refuel. Cooper suggested a 293 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:14.519 few spots, but they eventually decided to refuel in Reno, Nevada. Okay, 294 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:19.120 second takeoff wasn't possible with the staircase in the open position, 295 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:22.120 so the flight crew taught Cooper how to operate the 296 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.240 stairs so he could open them himself once the plane 297 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:25.919 was airborne. 298 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:26.960 Wow. 299 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.639 Well, I mean, he's got a bomb, he's controlling everything. 300 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:32.879 Gosh. I just feel like there would have been an 301 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:35.840 opportunity for these people like run the fuck away or 302 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:36.960 like kake him down. 303 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:42.360 But yeah, but who knows what specifically he had. Yeah, 304 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:44.159 I mean, if he lets go of that briefcase, for 305 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:46.159 all they know, it could have blow up, and if 306 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.440 they try and tackle them, he lets go boom. 307 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:50.159 That's true. That's true. 308 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:52.720 So who knows what the situation really was? 309 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:54.120 Like, they're in quite the pickle. 310 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:57.600 Yep. So once they were in the air, the crew 311 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:01.559 were to stay in the cockpit and leave Cooper alone. 312 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:03.799 Interesting. He didn't want any more. 313 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.159 Drinks, I guess not. Maybe one final drink. Maybe he did. 314 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:10.320 I don't know, not too sure, but I doubt it. So. 315 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:13.519 Tina Mucklow was one of the stewardess who was still 316 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.799 on board. She was the last to see Cooper. She 317 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:19.080 was closing the cockpit door behind her, and he was 318 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:21.639 standing in the middle of the aisle looking as if 319 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:22.799 he was preparing to jump. 320 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:25.080 Oh. 321 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:28.480 Now, after completing the journey to Reno, the plane made 322 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:32.000 its landing safely, and they found Cooper was no longer 323 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:33.440 aboard the airplane. 324 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:35.879 Oh okay, so they didn't even make that final Mexico 325 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:36.879 City destination. 326 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:39.720 Nope, they didn't even make it to refueling and Reno. 327 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:40.879 Oh. Interesting. 328 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:45.000 So, after completing the journey to Reno. The plane made 329 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:48.200 it safe landing, and he was not aboard. It seems 330 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:51.679 that he jumped somewhere between Seattle and Reno, and he 331 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.399 lowered the stairs himself, you know, and just gone. 332 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:54.919 And he left. 333 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:57.600 And once it was But of course some people might 334 00:15:57.639 --> 00:15:58.919 be like, well, how do you know he jumped. Maybe 335 00:15:58.919 --> 00:15:59.960 he's hiding on the plane. 336 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:01.600 Well I thought that already. 337 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:05.960 They searched the plane. He was not him. Yeah, so 338 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:08.080 he wasn't on board the plane. And once they figured 339 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.200 that out, they began to actually search the plane for evidence. 340 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:17.000 And what he left behind was this. He left a 341 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:22.000 black clip on tie, eight cigarette butts and two of 342 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:26.200 the four parachutes. Okay, the note that he left behind 343 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:28.679 for the stewardess. He was actually smart enough to take 344 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:32.480 that with him. 345 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:35.320 Then, okay, why would they It's a handwritten note, handwriting, 346 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:39.720 that's true. Yeah, I wonder why you need four parachutes 347 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:40.720 and he only used two. 348 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:43.840 It could have been employee for the FBI to make them. 349 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:49.720 Not oh could smart actually because of the FBI. 350 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:52.000 Why does he need four parachutes? He's planning on taking 351 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:53.039 a hostage, and if. 352 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:54.679 They would have, if he would have disasked like two, 353 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.399 they would have made them both not work exactly. 354 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:01.000 I'm with you, he's on this, he's thinking ahead. Yeah, 355 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:01.519 he's smart. 356 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:02.360 It totally is. 357 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:06.920 The description that was given to investigators led to a 358 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:11.079 many famous sketches. There's several different renditions of the sketches 359 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:13.200 out there. They mostly all look the same. That's just 360 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:15.440 some are a little more refined than others. Some have 361 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:16.759 the sunglasses on or off. 362 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:18.200 I'm excited to see a sketch. 363 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:20.240 Well, it's going to be up on her Instagram, I know. 364 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:21.759 So. 365 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:24.160 The description was he was a Caucasian male between the 366 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:27.480 age of thirty five to fifty. He was five foot 367 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:32.599 nine to six feet tall, medium build, black, dark brown hair, 368 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:36.359 and brown eyes. Okay, and of course with the clothing 369 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:38.720 and his disposition that we mentioned at the beginning of 370 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:39.759 the podcast here as well. 371 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.119 I feel like that's such an age span. Sorry, I 372 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:43.319 just have to put that out there. 373 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:43.680 It is. 374 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:46.599 I'm like, if I'm fifty verse thirty five, I hope 375 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:49.839 people tell like I want them to tell him thirty 376 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:50.680 five and not fifty. 377 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:54.960 Yeah, definitely, But I mean maybe some people look thirty 378 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:56.000 five when they are fifty. 379 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:56.599 That's true. 380 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:57.319 Kind of hope for. 381 00:17:57.279 --> 00:17:59.119 That, right, Yeah, that's very true. 382 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:01.000 Maybe it's like this. It's got a lot of gray hair, 383 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:03.000 his hair is receding. But he looked young as fuck. 384 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:05.240 He could have been thirty five, four fifty. I don't 385 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:08.759 fucking know. He's getting ida at the liquor stores. It's 386 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:09.079 all we know. 387 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:11.440 Yeah. 388 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:14.400 So to try and locate Cooper, investigators needed to try 389 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:17.920 and identify when and where the plane was when he jumped, 390 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:21.279 and to narrow down the search to find him. This 391 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.759 was key. This was difficult, though, since no one ever 392 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:28.440 saw Cooper jump or leave the plane exactly, couldn't exactly 393 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:32.599 identified it. And this when I say no one saw him, 394 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:35.680 this also includes two fighter jets that followed the plane 395 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:37.799 that night on the way to Reno. 396 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:41.440 Oh really, yep? Did he? I wonder if he knew 397 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:41.920 they were there. 398 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:44.240 I'm gonna say I doubt it. 399 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:47.599 Huh. That's snaky, right. 400 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:50.839 The only thing they had to go on, though, was 401 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:54.480