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<v Speaker 1>You're listenings KPI AM six forty, the Bill Handles Show

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<v Speaker 1>on demand on the iHeartRadio f.

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<v Speaker 2>And now Handle on the news. Ladies and gentlemen, here's

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Handle.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's a Wednesday, January eighth, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>start good morning saying good morning not unfortunately anticipated and

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<v Speaker 1>it came out exactly as we did anticipate and expect.

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<v Speaker 2>The wildfires and it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be covering out, of course, versually the

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<v Speaker 1>entire show, and it's been going on all night. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, we did not go to syndicated

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<v Speaker 1>programming George Norri. It was live through the entire evening

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<v Speaker 1>with the KFI hosts and reporters. And so when we

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<v Speaker 1>say a hello first everybody, Amy, I know you've been

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<v Speaker 1>up for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, good morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Neil, who has been here since? What

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<v Speaker 1>you were on from three to five am?

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<v Speaker 4>Now here at thirty and did a three to five

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<v Speaker 4>before wake up call?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I know what was on from seven to midnight?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, he had a long shift and then you

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<v Speaker 4>had Conway come back midnight to three am.

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<v Speaker 3>He likes these overnight fire shifts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well because he's ups up anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yet it's not gone to bed, and I swear

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<v Speaker 4>he lives so close that if he fell right here

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<v Speaker 4>at the station, his head would hit his pillow on

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<v Speaker 4>his bed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been a This is where I love KFI

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<v Speaker 1>and I love what it does.

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<v Speaker 2>We're at our best and situations like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a call yesterday Chris Berry, who is our

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<v Speaker 1>now management, came into manage for a while and interrupted

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<v Speaker 1>watching Wicked, which I got very upset. I actually paid

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<v Speaker 1>thirty dollars to buy Wicked. Big, big, big mistake. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it dozens of times to get my money's worth.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, We're going to have to hear about that

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<v Speaker 3>at a later date when we're not talking about wildfires.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't really think so yeah, okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I you know, all of you folks have been

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<v Speaker 1>up and working for a long time. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>up all night because my little dogs, they have a

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<v Speaker 1>bed in the bedroom and when there are people outside,

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs mark because they're simply protective.

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<v Speaker 2>They're dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>They're dogs, and so you know, people walking outside, the

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<v Speaker 1>barking happens. Well, the wind was howling and the furniture

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor furniture was moving that. Every time the wind picked

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<v Speaker 1>up and you could hear a branch. The dog starts

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<v Speaker 1>barking because someone is outside, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I got I shut up, shut up, I want some sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea you could do that much damage

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<v Speaker 1>to a dog, a twelve pound dog, by throwing it

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<v Speaker 1>against the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. It did work, though, that little dog shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally it's limping, you know it's it's out there limping

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<v Speaker 1>and won't be barking again at people. God, God help

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<v Speaker 1>us if a burglar comes in, because that dog is

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna bark anyone ever.

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<v Speaker 4>A more tiny little dogs balls or four times the

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<v Speaker 4>size of yours. You're not throwing that dog, mister a

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<v Speaker 4>tough guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and I looked at that dog and I said, honey, honey,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to snack?

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<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you what a weird I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if you know this story, Neil, Let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what a weirdo. Lindsey is little Tommy, who

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<v Speaker 1>of course had to be spade, had to be neutered

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a male dog. She kept his balls in

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<v Speaker 1>a jar, which is yours. No, well that's different, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have his nuts in a jar on the shelf.

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<v Speaker 2>Those those are what I'm serious. By the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not making that up. It is different, Yes, she's different.

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<v Speaker 4>Who would have thought that a forty old marrying this

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<v Speaker 4>wind bag over here is weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Not quite a little older than that? All right, Cono,

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<v Speaker 2>that I say good morning to you, you do not? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning? Cono. Also drove in. Did you see the

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<v Speaker 2>fire on your drive in?

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<v Speaker 5>I did see one fire, Okay, I want to say

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<v Speaker 5>it's a simmer fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we're going to talk about that. Gary Hoffman, I

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<v Speaker 1>heard him this morning. Gary is and he came in

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<v Speaker 1>very early, obviously, and at his driving from Santa Clarita.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to him at seven point thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I have not seen any fires. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I live in South Orange County, and so I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>my home studio this morning because I wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with all that stuff. So on my ten foot

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<v Speaker 1>commute from the bedroom to my studio, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>see a fire. I don't have a fireplace on so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay. Amy, driving in, did you see any fire?

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<v Speaker 3>I did not, Okay, not at all. But I did

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<v Speaker 3>notice when I walked out of my house this morning,

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<v Speaker 3>you could smell the smoke in the air, which was

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<v Speaker 3>which was a new thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Yeah, all I all I have is the winds

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<v Speaker 1>were howling, and just I haven't even gone outside yet

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<v Speaker 1>to see what.

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<v Speaker 3>A mess are they still blowing where you are?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, let me look.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you need to look for the winds.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he licking his finger and putting it in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems stupid because at my house there were no

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<v Speaker 3>winds this morning. The winds were howling last night, but

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<v Speaker 3>then this morning, dead calm in my neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see because it's dark. Yes, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>yea the outdoor lighting. The winds are going, They're not howling,

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<v Speaker 1>but it looks.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a wind. What I'm not trying to be mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that your star on the Walk of

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<v Speaker 4>Fame and your Marconi was a like a dare? Like

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<v Speaker 4>somebody in those departments thought it'd be funny to give

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<v Speaker 4>you those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Woodleigh Fire.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a one Woodley Avenue south of Victory Boulevard,

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<v Speaker 4>and this Pulvida base and seventy five acres another one

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<v Speaker 4>just pop it up there.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're obviously going to be reporting on the fires.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Michael Monks out there on the fire scene.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go to some national correspondence coming up

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<v Speaker 1>at seven Alex Stone, ABC News correspondent who's on our

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<v Speaker 1>show all the time. He's going to talk about what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and he's in Altadena at the Altadena fire.

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<v Speaker 1>This is being covered. If you watch national news, which

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<v Speaker 1>I always do. You know, I'm sort of a news junkie,

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<v Speaker 1>so I always watch ABC or CBS in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>all the rest of it. It started, the story started

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<v Speaker 1>with the fires, and no doubt, of course it's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge story, bigger here than across the rest of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>but international story. And as Neil and I were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about before we take a break and come back, when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the total acreage of this fire, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really no big deal. It's what five six thousand acres

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<v Speaker 1>in total all the fires combined, which would would barely

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<v Speaker 1>be a mention.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be a brush fire.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is, of course, it's in Pacific palisades.

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<v Speaker 2>Populated areas period, right, It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or what used to be Pacific Palisades, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>got Malibu. All of these these aren't in the hills

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<v Speaker 1>way above where firefighters can't get through.

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<v Speaker 2>Firefighters can't get through now because.

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<v Speaker 1>The winds are blowing so strong, aircraft can't get up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it is a mess. It is a mess,

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<v Speaker 2>and something that I have rarely heard.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching Channel five and Channel eleven as well

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<v Speaker 1>as for hours, is the word heartbreaking in referring to

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<v Speaker 1>the houses that have been destroyed and the families that

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<v Speaker 1>have been affected. And reporters, usually try to be objective,

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<v Speaker 1>are deeply moved about seeing going there's some one's home going, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Be it's you know, I was looking.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just went into the booth, was talking with

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<v Speaker 4>kno and and we're looking up at the screens and

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking at areas that, you know, there were sidewalks

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<v Speaker 4>that people were probably walking their dogs on two days ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and the houses on the corner. I mean, everything looks

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<v Speaker 4>like a normal neighborhood, except it's completely engulfed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's almost like it's almost like a movie set.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like they're filming.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like they're filming, filming. Gone with a wind

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<v Speaker 1>with at land to burning.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, a back lot somewhere, Let's take a.

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<v Speaker 1>Break, we'll come back and then we're gonna go right

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<v Speaker 1>into it, the latest, what's going on talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>who are on the fire line. Uh, and give you

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat of an idea that you're only going to hear here,

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<v Speaker 1>You're only going to hear on KFI. You know. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy doing stories that are breaking and we

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<v Speaker 1>have to deal with them all morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, it's a different Yeah, this is this is our wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like nine to eleven, I think I broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>for seven or eight hours straight.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, you know, this is what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately, always unfortunately, I mean god, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>most unfortunate thing that happened to us in one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>But being this close and knowing people have been evacuated.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, we have friends in Malibu, Uh, and this

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<v Speaker 1>will be their fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>Go round after having already rebuilt a.

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<v Speaker 1>House that went down, and if it goes down again,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be their second rebuild. If they're even there,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they even stay, because.

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<v Speaker 4>Would huh would you stay if it was your even

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<v Speaker 4>if it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was and if it was a dream house, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is their dream house.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I wouldn't stay. I'd go, you know, what uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is somebody up there telling me. If I I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who it was would be up there would

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<v Speaker 1>be telling me, Actually be the pyro Baniaca on the

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<v Speaker 1>hill just above me would be saying this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a very good place to live anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So what we're going to do is we're going to report.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to throw it to Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy, if you can just give us the highlights the

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<v Speaker 1>headlines of the Palisades Eton Hearst fire, and we also

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<v Speaker 1>understand there's what fire is now breaking out all over

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<v Speaker 1>southern California, small spotfires, which is one of the problems

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<v Speaker 1>when you have eighty mile an hour winds and you

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea where the next spot fire is going

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<v Speaker 1>to erupt.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the laziest one to erupt is in the Subpulvida

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<v Speaker 3>Basin in the San Fernando Valley. It started just before

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<v Speaker 3>six this morning and has burned at least seventy five acres.

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<v Speaker 3>Officials say the fire is being pushed by the winds

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<v Speaker 3>moving south and is threatening to jump Burbank Boulevard. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no reports of any buildings threatened for that one at

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<v Speaker 3>this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The one you mentioned first was Pacific Palisades. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>thirty thousand people under evacuation orders. At last count or

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<v Speaker 3>at last update, it had burned just about three thousand acres.

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<v Speaker 3>We're expecting those numbers to change, possibly dramatically, when we

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<v Speaker 3>the Altadena area. That fire, we just got new numbers

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two hundred and twenty seven acres and there are

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<v Speaker 3>evacuation orders. We've seen the houses burning and the buildings

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<v Speaker 3>and the businesses burning, and the evacuation orders for that

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<v Speaker 3>fire have been expanded to include Laknata and flint Ridge.

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<v Speaker 3>Now fifty two thousand people are have been ordered out

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that we are not reporting

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<v Speaker 1>and no one is reporting, is how many homes were.

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<v Speaker 3>Destroyed or damage because we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way to know, because the way is the

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<v Speaker 1>literally look down and just start counting the neighborhood, look

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<v Speaker 1>at the looking at the neighborhoods that have been destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>and go, Okay, there's a this street one, two, three, four, five,

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<v Speaker 1>eight houses that's straight over there. Twelve houses no idea

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<v Speaker 1>or firefighters come into a neighborhood and start counting. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I want to ask and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at, is you had Pacific Coast Highway or

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<v Speaker 1>a Sunset Boulevard, which is basically the only way into

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<v Speaker 1>the Palisades. It's one road in and out. And people

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<v Speaker 1>were abandoning their cars because they couldn't get out, just

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<v Speaker 1>leaving their cars in the road, blocking the road. And

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<v Speaker 1>that pretty well stops evacuations, doesn't it. So they come

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<v Speaker 1>out and did you look at the lines lineup of

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<v Speaker 1>cars after they've been moved over by the big dozers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know what they look like now they're torched. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they're all torched. And you can't help but notice because

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<v Speaker 4>the affluent nature of the neighborhood that the row of

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<v Speaker 4>cars were not your average wasn't a bunch of Toyotas,

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<v Speaker 4>is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Not Honda's No.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, those houses and if they're not really mentioning it

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<v Speaker 1>because it sounds a little bit, is the word obnoxious elitist?

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Palisades is a wealthy area. Those are multi million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar homes. I mean, this is I'll tell you who's

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<v Speaker 1>sweating bullets the insurance companies. You've got a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>insurance executives looking at this and going ah, crap, oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there's also there was also some pulling out or

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<v Speaker 4>some changes with insurance companies a week or so ago

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<v Speaker 4>that will be affecting these people, and rate change in

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<v Speaker 4>all kinds of things we haven't even heard the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it's crazy. That will go on.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there are some homes along the coast in

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<v Speaker 1>Malibu that have gone up, and those try to get

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<v Speaker 1>anything along a coast for under twelve million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this financially, the hit is going to be enormous.

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't mean that people who have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money are more important or have greater value than

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else. Well actually they do, but we normally don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. The point is that you've got this devastation.

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<v Speaker 1>The financial hit is enormous, which I think what this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to do is amplify the issue of you

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<v Speaker 1>can't get fire insurance. You know, we have three insurance

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<v Speaker 1>companies bail out of California. A lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>not insured. They're bare because it's not a question of

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<v Speaker 1>being able to afford insurance. They have plenty of money,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't get insurance because the insurance companies will not

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<v Speaker 1>give them insurance because they're in fire areas. Although I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing a Malibu on the water, I wouldn't guess that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be a fire area.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but the hills. So what happens. What's that California

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<v Speaker 4>insurance that you get.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the Fair Plan, the Fair Plan with the

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<v Speaker 1>insurance companies put into this fund, and you can buy

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<v Speaker 1>into the Fair Plan if you can't get insurance anyplace else.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with the Fair Plan, well, if I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it does help, it's only fire insurance. It's not liability,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not comprehensive, it's not theft, nothing except for fire itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Pipe breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>You're done if your house floods out, and it costs

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<v Speaker 1>a fortune. The rates are very expensive, and the limitation

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<v Speaker 1>I think is around two point two to two point

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<v Speaker 1>three million dollars I think is the most they'll pay out,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a lot of money for most of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, not too many people have homes that are

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<v Speaker 1>worth two point two million dollars, but every one of

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<v Speaker 1>those homes and palisades are, and certainly in Malibu, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to replace an eleven thousand square foot

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<v Speaker 1>home for two million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>But is the house itself? Is the value based on

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<v Speaker 4>its location? That sure?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're talking about hard costs. Were just talking about

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<v Speaker 2>hard costs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to build the house. That's what fire insurance is about,

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<v Speaker 1>just rebuilding. That's it, okay, But I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>into a deeper conversation as to what is happening. As

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<v Speaker 1>I said, and as we all know, this has become

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<v Speaker 1>an international story beyond just a national story, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get a couple of different views of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Stone, who's an ABC News correspondent, is going to

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<v Speaker 1>give you what he's reporting nationally, what that take is,

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<v Speaker 1>and he happens to be in Altadena. Michael Munts, our

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<v Speaker 1>reporter KFI reporter is in the Palisades area.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be reporting. And then we have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Couple of press conferences. What I think there's a press

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<v Speaker 1>conference at eight o'clock, yes, the fire officials, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course will be covering, and then at a thirty assuming

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<v Speaker 1>the press conference doesn't go on forever, Jim Keeney is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be with us, and obviously we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the effects of smoke inhalation, what it's about,

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<v Speaker 1>long term, short term, medium term of fire injuries, burn injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>which we now know there are several and they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>getting me much more. And that's the very unique part

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<v Speaker 1>of medicine, is dealing with burn injuries. So there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot going on and you were in We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it a voluntary evacuation order or we're waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>the evacuation order. Yeah, yes, I had asked you do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a go bag?

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<v Speaker 2>And you said yes, What exactly were you doing and

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<v Speaker 2>what was in it?

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<v Speaker 1>And how close were you actually bailing out getting out

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<v Speaker 1>of dodge.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I figured, if we're gonna sit there and get

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<v Speaker 6>these notices, I might as well be prepared in case,

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<v Speaker 6>just in case. You never know, these embers fly far,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, we were in an evacuation potential area.

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<v Speaker 6>So I mean, we just put like photo albums, birth certificates, passports,

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<v Speaker 6>just those types of things in our car and.

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<v Speaker 2>Just we're already in a car and then yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>ready to My car is loaded right now. Actually, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>ready to jump in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Pamela, my daughter Pamela, who is

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<v Speaker 1>in with Woodland Hills area, and she was very close

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<v Speaker 1>into a couple of voluntary evacuation orders and she was

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<v Speaker 1>the light was flickering on and off, and she would say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no power in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad. She was on a cell phone. Obviously there's no

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<v Speaker 2>power in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden three minutes later or

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes later, Ah, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Powers back on.

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<v Speaker 1>Go.

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<v Speaker 1>Those Department Water and Water and Power people are very

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<v Speaker 1>good about repairing.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes them two minutes. Yeah, flickering all night, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>those are trained squirrels.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that the DWP has that repairs that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly. Do we know, and let me go to

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<v Speaker 1>Amy on this one, Amy, do we know how many

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<v Speaker 1>voluntary blackouts? That is the power company blocking off electricity cutting,

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<v Speaker 1>shutting it down for fear of the power lines igniting

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<v Speaker 1>the structures or the brush around the structures.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that in southern California about three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 3>people are without power. We do not know which of

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<v Speaker 3>those might have been precautionary shutoffs and which might have

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<v Speaker 3>been as a direct result of fire activity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's fairly new southern California.

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<v Speaker 4>Edison did implement preventive power shutoffs, but as Amy said,

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't say what areas or how many homes were affected.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, usually by this time we hear from the fire

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<v Speaker 1>officials that the fire started under where they're investigating the

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<v Speaker 1>origin of the fire, which means was at arson, Was

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<v Speaker 1>it caused by somebody? Any information of that, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>been waiting to hear whether that's even being looked at.

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<v Speaker 3>We do not have any kind of information on the

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<v Speaker 3>sources of the fires.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, think of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've you've been covering fires for a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of years. We don't know how many structures have burnt,

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, how many homes, no idea how many people,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, have ignored evacuation orders, although at this point

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of anybody in their right mind that

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<v Speaker 1>would ignore an evacuation order. I mean, it happens all

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<v Speaker 1>the time with hurricanes. Yeah, just let it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>come over me. I knew I was gonna I knew

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<v Speaker 1>we were gonna be okay just before there literally swept away.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the evil Witch of the West.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there was one that we had all seen

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<v Speaker 4>because somebody was shooting video from their own home on

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<v Speaker 4>their phone. There was a couple of guys and I

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<v Speaker 4>think a dog in Pacific Palisades and they have these beautiful,

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<v Speaker 4>massive windows, and the fire was right outside. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it basically was anove. And I have not heard any

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<v Speaker 4>updates about them, but they were unable to get out.

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<v Speaker 4>From what I had seen, that would be one that

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<v Speaker 4>I would be curious about, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>There was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching one of the news outlets, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know whether it was eleven or five or two,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was going back and forth on all the channels,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the reporters was there in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the camera. Behind you could see the smoke going sideways.

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<v Speaker 1>The wind was blowing so hard, and.

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<v Speaker 2>One second she's there, the next second she's not. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like in vaudeville they got.

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<v Speaker 1>The hook and yanked it and you flew off the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it was insane.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are seventy eighty mile Prier in Palisades.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy. I noticed you're not out there reporting in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of these howling winds.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my job to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>We have Michael Monks out on the lines, you have

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Stone out on the lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll talk to them, and I want you to mention,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I will start, I'll mention how comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>you are when we start talking to them. We heard

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<v Speaker 1>from the weather people that this high wind event is

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<v Speaker 1>coming when you days in advance, and so there was

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of warning, and you had Southern California fire departments La.

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<v Speaker 2>County, La City.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you had the various other adjacent fire departments

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<v Speaker 1>all ready to go and stay each right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, did that help? And I don't know the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on, Chuck Lovers, who has been a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine for twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Five years and he was with La County Fire.

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<v Speaker 1>He if he had not retired, and he retired a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago, he would be on.

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<v Speaker 2>The fire line right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be having a reporter throw a microphone in

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<v Speaker 1>his face and say, Chuck, what are you doing now?

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<v Speaker 2>What is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a couple of questions to ask Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>that frankly, very few other people are getting because he

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<v Speaker 1>could tell me inside, tell us inside baseball. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to Gary Gary Hoffman a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on, because he described driving in and what

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<v Speaker 1>he saw. He came from the north. He came from

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Clarita into burbank Gary of the North, Gary of

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<v Speaker 1>the North.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary. Yeah, and Amy, who lives you live east of here? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Aby, I live south of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, she lives. She lives south of here. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>of the South, Amy of the South. Cono, you live

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<v Speaker 1>just east of Denver, right, pretty much?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much?

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<v Speaker 3>Might have. He got quite a spectacle on his way in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, ConA, what did you see coming in? And

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<v Speaker 1>usually it takes you what forty five minutes to get in?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, closer to an hour with no traffic, with no

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<v Speaker 5>traffic yeaheah. So I'm like lo Melinda out in the

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<v Speaker 5>Inland Empire. So and I was corrected. I was saying

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<v Speaker 5>the Silmar fire. But it's the Altadena fire that I

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<v Speaker 5>was seeing off the one thirty four when the two

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<v Speaker 5>ten turns into the one thirty four, and it basically

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<v Speaker 5>just looked like armageddon.

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<v Speaker 2>Just those are the hills. Those are the hills.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're heading from the east to the right, the

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<v Speaker 1>foothills sort of northeast of Pasadena and Altadena is up

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<v Speaker 1>against those hills.

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<v Speaker 4>You can see that fire from here in the studio.

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<v Speaker 4>If I turn around I look out the window, I

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<v Speaker 4>can see it coming down, miserable.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the wind is still going now.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst of it, I understand, was done by around

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<v Speaker 1>six am this morning, about an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the weather report said.

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<v Speaker 1>And then throughout the morning, Amy, I know you're following

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<v Speaker 1>this much closer than we are because you're right on

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<v Speaker 1>top of it, and you're in front of all the

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<v Speaker 1>news computers.

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<v Speaker 3>And what are you asking about the winds?

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<v Speaker 1>I completely forgot we were asking about the winds. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a joke, by the way, Neil, I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly what I was asking. Stop at that was a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>By hear the moment joke, Amy, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was asking about the weather National Weather Service and

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<v Speaker 1>the winds when they died or will die down, and

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<v Speaker 1>what we're looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not going to die down for a while. We

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<v Speaker 3>did talk to Mike Woff with the National Weather Service

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<v Speaker 3>this morning. The winds are still blowing. They're not blowing

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<v Speaker 3>as strong as they were, but we still have red

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<v Speaker 3>flag warnings in effect until at least tomorrow evening. We

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<v Speaker 3>could see gus still up to seventy miles per hour

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<v Speaker 3>one clocked. Neil mentioned this earlier. One clock didn't act

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<v Speaker 3>in at one hundred and fifteen miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is hurricane strength.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's four, but that's pretty Yeah, that's pretty insane.

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<v Speaker 4>And then Toto, wasn't he saying on your way in

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<v Speaker 4>that you saw a truck or something top of Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I saw it's like seven.

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<v Speaker 5>I think around seven that.

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<v Speaker 2>I counted big rigs that were over.

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<v Speaker 5>But the wind is I mean, you know it's a

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<v Speaker 5>big deal, but I didn't really take it into perspective

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<v Speaker 5>until I'm driving, you know, at eighty miles an hour

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm seeing actual massive trees now down that I

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<v Speaker 5>have to look out for.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's no like, was was your car buffeted at

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<v Speaker 1>all by the winds coming in?

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to explain what buffeted The winds affected

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<v Speaker 2>the car?

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<v Speaker 1>Were one and you said you went sideways or you

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<v Speaker 1>swerve because of the wind power.

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<v Speaker 4>Well at he was missing a door and there's no window,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not your shield, and.

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<v Speaker 2>None of that is true.

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<v Speaker 5>But yes, it was affecting my car along with other

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<v Speaker 5>people's cars and big rigs.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not driving you.

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<v Speaker 1>Could understand because big rigs are basically a sail in

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<v Speaker 1>the shape of a box, and the wind comes against

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<v Speaker 1>those things, and that's a lot of wind.

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<v Speaker 4>It is ultimate gottam here. That's what's key, that's what's important.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a multwagen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Amy, you drove in for a bit. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you, did you would did the wind affect

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<v Speaker 1>your drive?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you feel it?

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<v Speaker 3>It did? Yes, but it was once I made the

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<v Speaker 3>made the turn onto the one thirty four and headed

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<v Speaker 3>west and was hitting the valley.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then I and it comes to the point,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a point of this conversation somewhere, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is if the winds are strong enough to move a

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<v Speaker 1>car or to take a big rig off the road,

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine what it does to a fire? That is,

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<v Speaker 1>all the fires consume oxygen, and the more oxygen they get,

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<v Speaker 1>the hotter they burn.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, there has to be fuel a lah brush.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And but for saying that the winds are eighty miles

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<v Speaker 1>per hour, which is a massive quote event wind event. Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>If this was forty miles an hour, this would be

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<v Speaker 1>big news, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be if the conditions were ripe. What makes

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<v Speaker 3>the wind conditions so devastating or potentially devastating here is

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<v Speaker 3>because the humidity levels are very low and we haven't

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<v Speaker 3>had much rain, so the ground is very dry and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just ready to burn.

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<v Speaker 4>So, by the way, I just got up to look

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<v Speaker 4>out the window. Here, go look at that, and it

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<v Speaker 4>is insane. So that fire has now become this massive

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<v Speaker 4>black cloud that's moving our way here in Burbank.

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<v Speaker 2>It's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>Before all you could see is the flames serpenting up

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<v Speaker 4>the mountain, and now we have It's so it's hard

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<v Speaker 4>to describe the difference between the sky I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 4>now and then you peek around the corner in the

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<v Speaker 4>studio here and that is I'm assuming that is the

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<v Speaker 4>eating fire, the Altadena Pasadena fire. Now it's just massive,

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<v Speaker 4>this cloud that is coming our way, and it is

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<v Speaker 4>pitch black.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when it started, of course, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>spot fire that started. And because of what we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, the massive winds, the fuel, the brush that's

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<v Speaker 1>available to it, that's a bone dry and also humidity.

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<v Speaker 1>Aimy even been reporting on the humidity because that is

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculously low, which of course adds quote fuel to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fire absolutely, and the humidity levels are expected to stay

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<v Speaker 3>low through at least tomorrow, which is why those red

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<v Speaker 3>flag warnings for high fire danger will remain in effect.

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<v Speaker 3>The winds are still going to be blowing, not quite

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<v Speaker 3>as as strong as overnight. The humidity levels stay low.

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<v Speaker 3>That keeps the fire danger really high, and new fires

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<v Speaker 3>could crop up at any time. We've got the new

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<v Speaker 3>one burning in the Supulvida basin. It just started at

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<v Speaker 3>six o'clock this morning and it's already whipped up to

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five acres.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is KFI A M six forty. You've been

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