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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Tim Duckworth. It is the evening of Tuesday, February eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing, mister cowboy? Got a haircut? Huge,

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<v Speaker 1>check cut huge. It doesn't look that much different. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not much that it just a little clean up, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>up the Cowboy locks. Big news dropped one day ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The twenty twenty five World Series of Poker schedule has

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<v Speaker 1>been released in full, one hundred live gold Bracelet events.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim and I are going to hit on it a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a rapid reaction. I know it's more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours later, so quotes around rapid. But we've

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<v Speaker 1>been very, very busy here at the Poker Gro Cup,

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<v Speaker 1>at the Poker gro Studio, so it still is a

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<v Speaker 1>very rapid reaction for us. I'm gonna say that we

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<v Speaker 1>should probably like we'll give our thoughts, okay, and then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like some things will marinate, we'll see more takes

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and we'll have like more thoughts as we

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<v Speaker 1>go towards the city, towards the summer. So don't take

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<v Speaker 1>this with you know, an end all be all type

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<v Speaker 1>of idea. So yeah, the wa space schedule got released.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred live gold Bracelet events. As I mentioned, May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh is when it all kicks off, and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>end on July sixteenth. Of course, it will end with

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<v Speaker 1>a new World Champion of Poker being crowned. The Main

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<v Speaker 1>Event everyone's favorite tournament of the year. Whether you are

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<v Speaker 1>a player, a fan, whatever you are in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>the WSP Main Event is the biggest and the best.

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<v Speaker 1>The Main Event runs July second through sixteenth. We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk a lot about the Main Event because

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<v Speaker 1>mister WSP himself, mister phil Helmuth, decided to drop a

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<v Speaker 1>bombshell last night and ignite the poker world. There are

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<v Speaker 1>thirty PGT qualifying events on this year's schedule, so thirty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the schedule qualifies for the PGT. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that's up from twenty eight last year. Basically, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run through our biggest takes, the new additions that

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<v Speaker 1>are on there, you know, maybe touch on some things

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<v Speaker 1>that they have missed, but yeah, kind of more of

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<v Speaker 1>an open form. Let me first say that they did

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<v Speaker 1>add some new events. You know, something's got removed or replaced,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, I feel like people are calling it a

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<v Speaker 1>new event the industry employees, it's really just the casino

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<v Speaker 1>employees of the new name, my brand. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>felt that they always allowed the industry, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>the official new events, if you want to call them that,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a one thousand dollars buy in Battle of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ages, no limit hold them. So this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be I believe it's two starting flights. One starting

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<v Speaker 1>flight is for people who are fifty and over. The

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<v Speaker 1>other starting flight is for people who are under fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's fifteen under and then over. I forget exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's basically split down the middle, over fifty, under fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'll combine. I think this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting concept. I don't hate it. Hate it? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you hate it? Why doesn't make any It's a normal tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>just split up. I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying to copy what Trent does with the VIPs

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<v Speaker 2>in a way, but like, does it I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're trying to do that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're much I think they are. I think they are

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to kind of lean into the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>like seniors events are hot like in general, So how

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<v Speaker 1>do you like kind of build out like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have it? I mean, I mean it's combined. Not Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. Maybe this is where they're stealing from the

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<v Speaker 1>trit and thing where you allow the seniors to play

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<v Speaker 1>with fellow seniors on the day one, just like VIP's

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<v Speaker 1>play with VIPs. So you know, you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting into the water battling with the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are of your ilk versus you get in there and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, eh, I gotta play with all these young kids,

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<v Speaker 1>they're better than me whatever. At least you might feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you have a better shot on day one against

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<v Speaker 1>people like you in terms of skill level and all

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of age, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I just think they might have. They should have

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<v Speaker 2>made us a one more day of separate fields, because

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you were talking try and trying is

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<v Speaker 2>you know eighty player is doing the same thing, is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be maybe eight thousand plays something crazy. Make

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<v Speaker 2>it two day split up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know logistically that's difficult, so that's probably why they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do it. But to me, it doesn't Outside of

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<v Speaker 2>the Day one doesn't really change much for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't really move the interest meter for me with

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<v Speaker 1>this WS. I do think that I would almost reserve

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<v Speaker 1>kind of one weird, wacky, gimmicky type of event. This

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<v Speaker 1>one I would put into that bucket. It might not

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<v Speaker 1>even be weird enough for like what I would be

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<v Speaker 1>going for, but you know, I think it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>have like kind of fun with one of them. They

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<v Speaker 1>finally did it. They added one hundred thousand dollars buy

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<v Speaker 1>in high roller yellow. Speaking of copying, stealing, they stole

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<v Speaker 1>from from you, let them have it. Come on, they

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<v Speaker 1>stole from me. Listen. Imitation the highest flattery. I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to say it took them a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's here and listen. This is going to be huge. Yeah, massive,

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be that word I love so much,

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<v Speaker 1>massive massive. They should have put massive roller. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good name. I might, you know I might so, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundre k buy in pot limit Omaha high Roller.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be absolutely freaking in. Before it

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<v Speaker 1>was fifty it was crazy. Then Now you know this

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<v Speaker 1>hunter k. It's it's about time. It's rightfully on the schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I said, it's going to be absolutely crazy

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<v Speaker 1>in there they added a twenty five K high roller

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<v Speaker 1>half and half half PLO half no limit hold them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is also awesome. They've had this tournament

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<v Speaker 1>before at much lower price points. I think the highest

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<v Speaker 1>was five K. Yeah. I think they even have a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred before, they've had a yeah, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>had a five hundred. I think, yeah. I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be awesome. I think this one's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be really cool. Players have been asking for this,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, they're listening to the players.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're thinking of doing something like this after

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series, so you know, that's why you'll be up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when we will be looking like some copycats. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this event will be you know, I heard

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<v Speaker 2>the guys talking about it here in the studio this week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard for the PLO players to miss this. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be hard for the no limbit guys to

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<v Speaker 2>miss this too. They'll just play tighter and PLO. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you are a multi game specialist like a Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>mcgroaran or Jeremy Osmas, you're gonna be licking your lips

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<v Speaker 2>when you go and play this in that.

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<v Speaker 1>So last year they had a fifteen hundred dollars double

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<v Speaker 1>Board Bomb Pot tournament that was half no limit, hold

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<v Speaker 1>Them half PLO speaking up the half and half mix.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, they took that tournament and they made it

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<v Speaker 1>just PLO double Board Bomb Pot, So it fits in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, it fits more with what double board Bomb

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<v Speaker 1>Pot is used to and that's the PLO variant. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's on the schedule. Fifte hundred dollars Buying. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a five thousand dollars Super Turbo Bounty Nolanmit Hold Them

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<v Speaker 1>event that I'm sure will be crazy. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>took out the three K horse that was at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the schedule last year and they replaced it

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<v Speaker 1>with a three thousand dollars Buying Tours TRS replacing Hold

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<v Speaker 1>Them with Triple Draw. So those are the those are

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<v Speaker 1>the new events on the schedule this year. Some other

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<v Speaker 1>changes that popped out. Initially, Colossus Buying went up and

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<v Speaker 1>went from four hundred dollars to five hundred dollars. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of always liked the four and dollars one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what's the big deal? Why you got to

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<v Speaker 1>go up to five hundred, Yeah, exactly. They added some

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<v Speaker 1>extra flights for some of the massive field Nolan that

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<v Speaker 1>hold them tournaments. I'm gonna try and just work that

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<v Speaker 1>word in as much as awesome now massive, So Mystery

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<v Speaker 1>Millions I believe went up to four or sorry, went

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<v Speaker 1>up to five flights from four, and that Mystery Millions

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<v Speaker 1>the one K buy and that's that's right at the

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<v Speaker 1>front of the schedule. Again, I think this is an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible move when they did it, to put it at

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<v Speaker 1>the front of the schedule like that kicks off the

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<v Speaker 1>World Series. It's gonna be massive, you know, massive, first

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<v Speaker 1>place prize, massive, big bounty, massive, massive, massive, massive, massive,

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<v Speaker 1>massive Millions. Colossus I think added a starting flight as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Monster Stack added a starting flight. I believe Mini Main

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<v Speaker 1>Event added the starting flight. So just like one extra

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<v Speaker 1>starting flight for a lot of these different tournaments, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fine because as these fields continue to grow, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's only necessary that that's how you get

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<v Speaker 1>more people in. I mean, we see it every single

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<v Speaker 1>year with these events, the alternate lines, the Late REDGS lines,

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<v Speaker 1>they're ridiculously long, you know, hundreds of people along stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So slamming another flo no big deal. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't hate it. I also understand it from a business perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, drive up that revenue. It's good for the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line. Of course, fewer freeze outs on the schedule

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<v Speaker 1>this year kind of a bummer. I like the freeze outs,

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<v Speaker 1>but listen, I can say that here now if I

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<v Speaker 1>was the one, you know, looking at the p and L,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, like, you know, so it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the world. I guess. One kind of

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<v Speaker 1>big notable change is the Flipping Go is gone, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's mostly notable because now the Waspy is under ownership

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<v Speaker 1>of GG Poker. That event was I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>the flipp and Go buy GG Poker is what it

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<v Speaker 1>was called. Like they put it in as like their

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<v Speaker 1>sponsored event, their element, and it was like everyone kind

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<v Speaker 1>of complained about the event, but then everyone also blasted

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<v Speaker 1>in it like all the time, so it was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's out this year, so that won't be on

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule. I also found it interesting that the if

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<v Speaker 1>you exclude twenty five K and higher buying events. This

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<v Speaker 1>is from a news Aurora on Twitter. He works for

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Refuse does great work. A news twenty two to

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<v Speaker 1>one to two on Twitter. He said, excluding the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five K and higher buying events, the average buy in

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<v Speaker 1>has gone up. And I'll just run through what he

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<v Speaker 1>put on Twitter, and it says twenty twenty one was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two hundred and thirty nine dollars, twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two hundred and ninety two dollars, twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two ninety six, twenty twenty four thirty three seventy three,

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<v Speaker 1>and then twenty twenty five is now up to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four seventy seven. And I believe if you include the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five K and higher buying events, the average buying

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<v Speaker 1>number also goes up. Of course, as we mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>there's that there's one hundred K PLO high Roller on

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule, there is the twenty five K high Roller

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<v Speaker 1>half and half on the schedule, so all of that

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff. So like what year kind of thoughts takeaways?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what do you got for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to the new events to start with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually do like the toss, you know, for the

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen hundred buy in. I think it's good keeping hold

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<v Speaker 2>of them in there. The three K where it is in

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule, it is a little more I'd say pro heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably not the right word. But I don't mind

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<v Speaker 2>that that that little change, you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>think it would be slightly better. Event the double board

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<v Speaker 2>bump put, I think they made a mistake last year

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<v Speaker 2>in two ways, one adding no limit and then the

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<v Speaker 2>other it was it was a bump put every orb.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're going to make every was it every orbit

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<v Speaker 1>or was it every happen or whatever it was, it

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<v Speaker 1>should be every hand. So I'm hoping they think we

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<v Speaker 1>all when we first saw it, we were like every

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm wondering if they if they'll make that tweak.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they should. I love the I love the

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<v Speaker 2>five K super Turbo Bownie. That's great. Now that's for

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<v Speaker 2>the new events. I'm kind of sad that the flipping

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<v Speaker 2>goes out. I did like that, you know, especially with

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<v Speaker 2>the GG sponsorship element. My question is, will we see

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<v Speaker 2>another event of the schedule, maybe become GG branded, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's the G The whole thing is GG. No

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but like you know, owned by law. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if they will have like you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's for example, there's the Poker News Deep Stack

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<v Speaker 2>Championship six hundred dollars by do you think that they

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<v Speaker 2>could easily be a GG Poker named event. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what he's saying that I'll schedule is name,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm wondering if we'll see that added later. A

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<v Speaker 2>big discussion. I don't know how much we want to

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<v Speaker 2>get into it. The increase in rate. Personally, it's class

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<v Speaker 2>of doing business. It's not going to change the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>It is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, so I I don't think we should even

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<v Speaker 1>neat a waste it's in any sort of poker, it's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a bummer when you see increase in RAKE. My

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<v Speaker 1>only thing is is that the increase in RAKE always

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<v Speaker 1>seems to effect the lower buy and stuff more than

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<v Speaker 1>it affects the higher buying stuff. And that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most apparent at the w soop when the lower buying stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're playing the three and llars Gladiator's Poker

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<v Speaker 1>Tournament and there are eighty five thousand people in that building,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you're using every single dealer you have available,

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<v Speaker 1>every single table you have available all this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like obviously, the more dealers you need, the quality of

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<v Speaker 1>like oftentimes in that tournament, I played that tournament many years,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to you're playing ten handed, yeah, for

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<v Speaker 1>a long period of time. Like, so you're charging more

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<v Speaker 1>RAKE for say, a lesser experience, you know, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>that to me is like that doesn't equate in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, you should pay more RAKE for a

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<v Speaker 1>better experience, or a more luxurious experience, or a more

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<v Speaker 1>efficient experience, like all of that sort of stuff. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So like when you're playing the high buy and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting the best dealers of the dealers that they have,

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<v Speaker 1>You're sitting in a special area with some better seats,

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff. So there's all of that

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<v Speaker 1>you know so greatly. But I also, I mean again

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<v Speaker 1>going back to like if I'm on the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>the business person in me would say, I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not you're probably gonna set record numbers in

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<v Speaker 1>all you know, in the majority of not all of

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<v Speaker 1>those fields. It doesn't really matter. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it right, you know, And the price of everything

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<v Speaker 1>has gone up, inflation and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I understand it. Do I wish it wouldn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Like yeah, I don't want more Rake, who

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<v Speaker 1>the heck does? But I don't think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>slow down the World Series at all. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be one of those talking points.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some complaining here and there, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately everyone's gonna sho up and everyone's going to play

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<v Speaker 1>it because that's how it is. All right, continue what

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<v Speaker 1>else you got?

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<v Speaker 2>You know they removed or we talked about the GG

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<v Speaker 2>event they removed, they removed that event. They brought in

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<v Speaker 2>Lassy the champions, bringing in terrible event, get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>that one that was that was silly V I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, but that also falls under like just when I said,

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<v Speaker 1>like the gimmick, you know, do something new every I

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<v Speaker 1>think the one thing, you know, I haven't seen much

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<v Speaker 2>Last year there was a big I think there was

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<v Speaker 2>more voices about it, but you know, the tournament champions.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, last year, it didn't come with the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it was announced. I think it was in like

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<v Speaker 2>March or earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it was part of the Commerce series yea,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone like freaked out that they're like, oh, they

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<v Speaker 1>put it in Commerce. They didn't give us enough time

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<v Speaker 1>to travel there. We didn't know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I mean is that when they announced or

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<v Speaker 2>series last year, they announced it details coming soon but

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<v Speaker 2>held in Las Vegas. Then in March it was announced

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<v Speaker 2>that it'll be part of this Commerce schedule this year

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't part of any announcement, so a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess are already expecting it to potentially go back to

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<v Speaker 2>Commerce in you know, late May or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I I think that it should be at the World

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<v Speaker 1>Series of Poker. In the screen, you know, that is

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<v Speaker 1>your your flagship series, your flagship event for the entire

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<v Speaker 1>so tournament of champions to meet aligns with wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate those champions at that series. You also get the

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<v Speaker 1>added benefit of, like, you know, everyone's there playing they

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<v Speaker 1>can then you know, take some shots and whatnot in

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<v Speaker 1>the WSP and and you have those storylines and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. So yeah, I think it should be at

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<v Speaker 1>the World.

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<v Speaker 2>I think yeah, I think it should either open the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series or conclude the World Series. I think opening

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<v Speaker 2>is probably better because it gets maybe people that were

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<v Speaker 2>on the fence about coming out to come out, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand what they're doing. If they're trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>the circuit a bigger deal with their partner at Commerce,

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<v Speaker 2>then I get it. But it should maybe just be

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<v Speaker 2>announced a lot earlier, like it could actually be announced

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<v Speaker 2>at the start of.

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<v Speaker 1>The circus season.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, sure otherwise, you know what, it's nothing too

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<v Speaker 2>crazy with this schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people on that point. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people were anticipating a lot, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the new GG Poker ownership, and everyone was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go, like they're gonna they're gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bells and whistles, you know, jazz hands, like all this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff. But I mean, this to me, looks

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<v Speaker 1>like that ownership thing is not changed. Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>like just what I would expect from the w SP.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they they bumped it up to one hundred. Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>some subtle changes, not anything too crazy, didn't really mess

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<v Speaker 1>with it. All the dates are pretty similar, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everything pretty much aligns right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, So we may see that is maybe in the

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<v Speaker 2>online schedule, maybe we see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you don't know. I think I would expect more

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<v Speaker 1>changes next year, kind of play, uh, see how it

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<v Speaker 1>goes this year, you know, really get in there, get

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<v Speaker 1>their hands on things, see how things operate, and then

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<v Speaker 1>and then go for it next year. But also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. Maybe maybe it just kind of could just

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<v Speaker 1>continues like this. Who really knows. I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people made mention of the fact that the WSP

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<v Speaker 1>plus that was used and a lot of players loved

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<v Speaker 1>for wasby Paradise was not included in the press release.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if that's a thing that's to

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<v Speaker 1>come or if that's a thing that's like held up

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<v Speaker 1>by gaming because we are now in the States, we

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<v Speaker 1>are in Nevada, et cetera. So maybe just TBD on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I know a lot of people pointed

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<v Speaker 1>that out, that that's not in the schedule. They also

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out, as we mentioned, there's no TOC stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule too, So overall, you know, I think it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>One idea that popped into my head when I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading through the like the new events list, and and

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<v Speaker 1>this came from actually came from you in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>because the upcoming PGT Mix game series has an event

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<v Speaker 1>called Mary's Mix the Player of the year should get

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<v Speaker 1>to pick an event for the next year, So like

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<v Speaker 1>Sean deeb, but Shan Deep wins Player of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>he can essentially like pick an event like and like

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<v Speaker 1>he like designs it under like certain parameters working with

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<v Speaker 1>their officials and like you know, you can call it

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<v Speaker 1>the so and so by Sean Deep, you know, buy

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<v Speaker 1>w S player there Sean Deep or like whatever, you

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<v Speaker 1>know something like that, Like I think that would be

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<v Speaker 1>fun and just like a way, and it's only a

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<v Speaker 1>one year thing, like you get it unless you win

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<v Speaker 1>it again, of course, but like you get you get

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<v Speaker 1>like your stamp on the schedule for winning WSP Player

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year. Like I think that would just be

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<v Speaker 1>a fun little maybe we should sprinkle. I mean listen,

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<v Speaker 1>like they have so many events, they have one hundred events,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what's throwing away one event to like some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like thing, you know, like it'd be fun. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not bad idea, Like instead of dealers choice, you call

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<v Speaker 1>it Sean Deep's choice, like you know something like jerem

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Obviously you can't be like you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play blind man's bluff whatever, like like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to be like, okay, listen, like we can

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<v Speaker 1>do this, this, this, this, this, you know, like these

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<v Speaker 1>are the options. Build your own meal, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>that that sort of thing. And maybe it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>a straight like Nolan and Holdham event, or like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something super boring, but it still has that person's

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<v Speaker 1>name attached to it, you know, they kick it off

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<v Speaker 1>on the microphone like all that. I like that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna steal that idea for us. Well you already I

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<v Speaker 1>told you. I stole it from you because you named

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<v Speaker 1>an event Moury's Mix. By the way, speaking of this,

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<v Speaker 1>Mory's Mix. Okay, so there's an event on the upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>PGT Mixed Game schedule called Morey's Mix. I asked more

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. I said, limit Omaha. Why is limit

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<v Speaker 1>Omaha More He's like, I don't know, Tim put it

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<v Speaker 1>in there. All the players are asking what the hell's

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<v Speaker 1>limit Omaha is doing in there? I don't play limit Omaha. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just so everyone knows, he limit Omaha high, No high low,

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<v Speaker 1>limit Omaha High.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna break it down for you right now. Ready,

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to add something new I wanted I'm mixed

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<v Speaker 2>that was what the mix. I know why you did this,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, but continue, Okay, it's called it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>called a blood mix because basically it's all one winning

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<v Speaker 2>games and it's all limit So where did you get

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<v Speaker 2>this from? This was my original idea for the super

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<v Speaker 2>higher roll Evolve Max.

417
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<v Speaker 1>You know who used to always run a limit Omaha

418
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<v Speaker 1>high game, no Crown casino. Oh yeah, all the time. Yeah.

419
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<v Speaker 1>So you may not have done it on purpose, but

420
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<v Speaker 1>in the back of your brain subconsciously you designed it

421
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<v Speaker 1>me because of your roots common all the millions these

422
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<v Speaker 1>guys are playing this five to ten limit amet. Yeah,

423
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<v Speaker 1>it was brutal, but here's no I have two flop

424
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<v Speaker 1>games to stud to jaw.

425
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<v Speaker 2>It's very well balanced. Now we want to talk about

426
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<v Speaker 2>why is it called Morris. So originally it was called

427
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<v Speaker 2>the Commissioners Mix after me, but I thought that's a

428
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<v Speaker 2>little too you know, I currently more mixed. So I

429
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<v Speaker 2>was like, let's just name it after more ass Mori's

430
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<v Speaker 2>just okay, he goes, you can name it after me.

431
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<v Speaker 1>If I was advising him, I would have said it

432
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<v Speaker 1>has to royalties. But that's sure.

433
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<v Speaker 2>He can have royalties of the series. He eyes but

434
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<v Speaker 2>like that's the thing we we it's an easy one

435
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<v Speaker 2>to omit. But then what do you add? Do you

436
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<v Speaker 2>add a third draw game, a third start it. Look,

437
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<v Speaker 2>with the mixed game series, we try a lot of

438
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<v Speaker 2>different things. This is something new we're trying for this series. Look,

439
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<v Speaker 2>if you gets twelve players, it's off the list and

440
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<v Speaker 2>we'll find something new next year.

441
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not going to get to well, no,

442
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<v Speaker 1>I know, but it'll do all right.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Look, the omahahi is very uncommon, but let's just see

444
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<v Speaker 2>how it goes. It'll be fun to I think it

445
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<v Speaker 2>should be a fun tournament.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Anything you think they might have missed that they didn't

447
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<v Speaker 1>put on there?

448
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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I would say maybe a high buy

449
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<v Speaker 2>in bounty or mystery mystery bounty type of event.

450
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<v Speaker 1>The ten K they have the ten they call it

451
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<v Speaker 1>the Secret Boundy before sure, but.

452
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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm wondering, you know what the appetite would be

453
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<v Speaker 2>for say a twenty five K mystery Yeah, you know,

454
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<v Speaker 2>obviously the one K mystery millions is the massive bounty

455
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<v Speaker 2>event of the series. But I think there is an

456
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<v Speaker 2>appetite for a higher buy in. Some kind of bounty

457
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to be missed, I would have gone.

458
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<v Speaker 1>So you a PKO Progressive Boundy Progressive knockout would be

459
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<v Speaker 1>great at the DOVISSIPI. Now, the problem is is that

460
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<v Speaker 1>you can't probably do it at a lower buying because

461
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<v Speaker 1>the scale would just be ridiculous, and I think you could.

462
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<v Speaker 1>You just have to really wait for the progressives to

463
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<v Speaker 1>kick in. Yeah, I don't know so, but you could

464
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<v Speaker 1>easily run that at a higher buying for sure, where

465
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<v Speaker 1>the field is much smaller, more manageable, all that sort

466
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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. So like, you know, a twenty five k

467
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<v Speaker 1>PKO I think be cool, and I think a lot

468
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<v Speaker 1>of that player pool would love that sort of thing,

469
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<v Speaker 1>So that would be that would be fun and introduce

470
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<v Speaker 1>it that way.

471
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<v Speaker 2>The one event events I'm gonna say plural, that I

472
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<v Speaker 2>have been pushing for for many years, and if I'm

473
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<v Speaker 2>ever in charge of the WSB, It'll be the first

474
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<v Speaker 2>thing I implement. But I would implement a five like

475
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<v Speaker 2>a five hundred dollars buy in, twenty five hundred dollars

476
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<v Speaker 2>buy in and a ten K buying heads up championship

477
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<v Speaker 2>online that plays down to say in the money plays

478
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<v Speaker 2>down to maybe eight players, and all those are restarting

479
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<v Speaker 2>prior to the twenty five k heads Up, so we

480
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<v Speaker 2>have to say the five hundred buying starts on Monday,

481
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<v Speaker 2>the conclusion of it live, you know, then you followed

482
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<v Speaker 2>by the twenty five hundred, followed by the ten k

483
00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.200
<v Speaker 2>that all wraps up the day before the twenty five

484
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<v Speaker 2>k heads up starts. I think heads up poker is

485
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<v Speaker 2>still a big thing, and you know, we couldn't really

486
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<v Speaker 2>run a five hundred dollars buy in live. It takes

487
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<v Speaker 2>up a lot of blood of room, but you could

488
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<v Speaker 2>run it on.

489
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<v Speaker 1>Tournaments are always kind of a mess because like people

490
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<v Speaker 1>are waiting for the draw, yeah they haven't. So that's

491
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<v Speaker 1>why I think you can do it online. Do it online,

492
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<v Speaker 1>lay down to eight bring them in.

493
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<v Speaker 2>So you'd have to obviously do the online early in

494
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<v Speaker 2>the series and do the actual Heads Up Championship, say

495
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<v Speaker 2>late journey. Obviously it's one of the first few events

496
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<v Speaker 2>that has been for the last few years, so that

497
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<v Speaker 2>would take one wrinkle. But I think those you know,

498
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<v Speaker 2>maybe you just trial it with say a one K

499
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<v Speaker 2>to start with online.

500
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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be very popular. Yeah, I definitely

501
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<v Speaker 1>think doing the heads up stuff online would be cool.

502
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<v Speaker 1>I've always been a fan of bringing back the FORMAX tournament.

503
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<v Speaker 1>I would also do that online to start, because just

504
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<v Speaker 1>four handed tables is just takes up a lot of

505
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<v Speaker 1>real estate, right, and I don't know if you could

506
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<v Speaker 1>necessarily dedicate the real estate to do that. So what

507
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<v Speaker 1>if you just did day one of the formats online,

508
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<v Speaker 1>then you had like a couple hundred people coming back

509
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<v Speaker 1>for day two live, much more manageable, you know that

510
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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. I also back in they remember the

511
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<v Speaker 1>Mixed Max Yeah, that was sweet. I love that one too, like,

512
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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I would I would bring you know,

513
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<v Speaker 1>some of those back. A part of me, I listen,

514
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<v Speaker 1>I know they've never had a PLO tournament above fifty K,

515
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:11.599
<v Speaker 1>and they are going to one hundred k. I think

516
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:14.279
<v Speaker 1>they could have gone higher too, Like, I just think

517
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:17.079
<v Speaker 1>they could have just, you know, absolutely slammed it. But

518
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<v Speaker 1>other than that, you know, I I got nothing with

519
00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.079
<v Speaker 1>the one tournament that always kind of like felt I

520
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<v Speaker 1>guess a little bit weird to me was the twenty

521
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<v Speaker 1>five K horse I just because I think it should

522
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<v Speaker 1>be a lot earlier. Well, because you have the you

523
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<v Speaker 1>have the fifty k PPC, and I don't, you know,

524
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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like they're too close. It's like just

525
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<v Speaker 1>it's a weird thing overall. You know, I think the

526
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:42.039
<v Speaker 1>schedules it's good, you know, it's it's what you can

527
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<v Speaker 1>be expected. It's not like anything you can really complain

528
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<v Speaker 1>about unless your name is pel Helmi. Then we're going

529
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<v Speaker 1>to get to that in a second. But uh, other

530
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<v Speaker 1>than that, you know, good, fine, And yeah, I'm excited

531
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<v Speaker 1>for another summer.

532
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<v Speaker 2>I guess you know, it's very early and looking at

533
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<v Speaker 2>this schedule and we haven't doubt either of us have

534
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:01.240
<v Speaker 2>dived too deep in the structures. But and the thing

535
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.599
<v Speaker 2>stands out to you that you want to play outside

536
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:04.759
<v Speaker 2>the WSP main event.

537
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I mean I've always wanted to

538
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<v Speaker 1>play the Monster Stack. Yeah, I just so, I know

539
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:13.720
<v Speaker 1>it's long and it's listen, it's not long in the

540
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<v Speaker 1>sense that I can't handle the endurance aspect of it

541
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 1>feel hummy, But I mean, okay, we're going to get

542
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:25.279
<v Speaker 1>into this guy. It's just long that you can't like,

543
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be off of work for that long.

544
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>And if I am like off of work or away

545
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>for or whatever playing a tournament, I wanted to be

546
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<v Speaker 1>the main right, like that's what I wanted to be.

547
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, I think maybe, you know, there's part

548
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<v Speaker 1>of me says that there's an appetite to make like

549
00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:45.640
<v Speaker 1>some of these high roller stuff just two day tournaments

550
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>just because like the office away. Now. Well yeah, but

551
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I know, but I feel like that crowd

552
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>just they play all of our stuff, they put all

553
00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.079
<v Speaker 1>the trait and stuff like they don't care like that.

554
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, they want in and out let's go. You know,

555
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:02.079
<v Speaker 1>they're in there out like it doesn't really matter to them.

556
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I think the numbers would be fine there. But also

557
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't mind the way that it is.

558
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not that big of a deal. I was. I

559
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<v Speaker 1>think the thing that I was thought we had the

560
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<v Speaker 1>best chance of seeing in terms of a GG poker

561
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>effect was a smaller buying bracelet event than three hundred dollars.

562
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought that that had the best chance to be

563
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>like the big change. Now. I didn't think anything would

564
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<v Speaker 1>really be that big of a change for this year,

565
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>but I thought, if you if we see anything, they

566
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 1>might do like hundred dollars like something like nuts right,

567
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.599
<v Speaker 1>like something like that. But you know, a very very

568
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>similar schedule to recent years they're up to one hundred

569
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 1>uh bracelets now live and then and then we'll have

570
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:48.400
<v Speaker 1>such a They're always going to ask there's a demand,

571
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:50.519
<v Speaker 1>is there? They're going to just continue to ask demand.

572
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 1>But that's just how it is. Let's protect this brand.

573
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 1>That's just how it is. All right, Let's get to

574
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<v Speaker 1>uh mister, what is it? Seventeen old races now eighteen

575
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 1>gobers and that's probably where they am. How many? How

576
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>many is seventeen? Yeah, I mean, it's just this guy.

577
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>So last night, Monday night, right around eleven pm Vegas time,

578
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>a story drops from poker dot org. I believe they

579
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.279
<v Speaker 1>were the first ones, right, And it's from Phil Hellmuth

580
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>saying that he's not playing the WSP main event this

581
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>year twenty twenty five. And then a tweet comes out

582
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<v Speaker 1>with a video from Phil Hellmuth where he is talking

583
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<v Speaker 1>about it. I'll read what he put in the tweet,

584
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.279
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll have our our TRUSTe producer Rich Ryan

585
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>put in the audio from what Phil Helmy said. Phil

586
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<v Speaker 1>Helmy tweeted, I am not playing the WSP main event.

587
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>It has become an quote endurance contest. I truly believe

588
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>that eighty percent of the players want changes made to

589
00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:53.519
<v Speaker 1>the WSP main event. Twelve hour days or longer for

590
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:55.759
<v Speaker 1>six to seven days in a row is brutal and

591
00:28:55.880 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>disproportionately affects older players. Let's hear what all Youth had

592
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>to say in his video.

593
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<v Speaker 3>Folks, here's a video I never wanted to make. So

594
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:09.759
<v Speaker 3>the World Series Booker Main Event. I played it every

595
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:11.759
<v Speaker 3>year since nineteen eight. I will not be playing it

596
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 3>this year.

597
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 4>It's just too tough. It's just too tough.

598
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, people at home are like, oh, Phil, you

599
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:19.599
<v Speaker 3>could play seven days in a row.

600
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:20.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, try it.

601
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 3>Try try getting up and playing at noon until midnight

602
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:26.480
<v Speaker 3>seven days in a row.

603
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:28.119
<v Speaker 4>And then they're, oh, well.

604
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Today we have to play till two or three in

605
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.319
<v Speaker 3>the morning, which also happens at the WSOP main Event.

606
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 3>It's just exhausting and I can't win. And I think

607
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 3>that it really hurts the older players in a much

608
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 3>bigger proportion than the younger players. And I'll say this,

609
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:46.319
<v Speaker 3>I had four great players come and tell me that

610
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 3>they blewe the main event because they got too tired.

611
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>With fifty left, with thirty left, with one hundred left.

612
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 3>It's turned into an endurance test. I don't think that

613
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 3>the World Series of Booker main event is measuring skill.

614
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<v Speaker 3>It's still my favorite event in the world. Don't misunderstand me.

615
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to miss it, but I know that

616
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:09.160
<v Speaker 3>I can't do that. You know, I'm sixty years old.

617
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 3>I know.

618
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I could have done at age fifty.

619
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<v Speaker 3>So I think the World Series of Poker is set

620
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 3>up as an endurance test, and we're losing a lot.

621
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 3>And if you go out there and you pull the

622
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<v Speaker 3>players on whether or not they should have days off

623
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<v Speaker 3>in the main event, eighty percent are going to say yes.

624
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 3>In the twenty percent because I did a little polling myself,

625
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 3>the twenty percent that don't, they're the guys who are

626
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<v Speaker 3>twenty years old, and I mean twenty five, twenty six,

627
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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven.

628
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 4>They're yeah, yeah, people get tired, they blow all their chips.

629
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Of course, wanted to be ten days straight, but I

630
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:43.119
<v Speaker 3>don't think that's what the World Poker World Series of

631
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Poker should be about.

632
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 4>People getting tired and blowing their chips.

633
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 3>So it's going to really hurt me to not play

634
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:51.920
<v Speaker 3>in the world's best poker tournament, the World Series of

635
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Poker Main Event.

636
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.240
<v Speaker 4>But in twenty twenty five, I'm out.

637
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.119
<v Speaker 3>I hope that in twenty twenty six there's some changes

638
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.559
<v Speaker 3>made so that, you know, so that we can restore

639
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 3>more skill and less endurance. I really hope they make

640
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 3>those changes because I don't know if I can do

641
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Speaker 3>an entrance this year either, So I guess I'm just out, Folks.

642
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:15.319
<v Speaker 4>I love the.

643
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 3>World Series of Poker, very important to me, but just

644
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 3>can't play the main event anymore.

645
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, So that was your boy, Philip Hellmuth, mister

646
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 1>WSP himself. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty confident to crown him.

647
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>That he does have the most bracelets. You know, he

648
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>is pretty synonymous with THESP brand. I can only imagine

649
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you're the dowsity brass and this guy drops this video

650
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 1>and this announcement, I'd be like, what the hell are

651
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 1>you doing? What is happening? I mean, seriously.

652
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Sure, but I'm not really I don't think they have

653
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.720
<v Speaker 2>any sponsorship liaisons or anything with Phil.

654
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Right, see, he's not on the shape know what? This

655
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 1>video feels like? This video feels like I just remember

656
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 1>watching I think it was like the preview of the

657
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>trailer for the Mike Madis at Don And I want

658
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to say he said something in there along the lines

659
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>of like him Daniel Phil et cetera, like basically helped

660
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 1>build the city, Like then that's how he wanted to

661
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>be remembered. This to me feels like Phil thinks he

662
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 1>has more to do with the WSP than THEWSP has

663
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>to do with the hunk, when if there's novasp, there's

664
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:38.119
<v Speaker 1>no hunk. I mean, bottom line, that is true. So like,

665
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.559
<v Speaker 1>why does this need to be blasted out on the internet.

666
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Why can't you just go to your people, because like

667
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 1>who you obviously have a good relationship with and and

668
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>actually have a conversation and talk to him about this.

669
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>This seems silly he just thought of this and just

670
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>shot it out there. It seems extremely weird to just

671
00:32:54.920 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>go about it like this, announcing this now, you know,

672
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>hours after they dropped the dovasby main event schedule. Is

673
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>an attack on the was a B. That's what this is. Like,

674
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm attacking them and I'm gonna make the biggest noise

675
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>possible because i want to get my way, which seems

676
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:18.039
<v Speaker 1>not the right way to go about this. It's definitely

677
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.119
<v Speaker 1>like why would she just why wouldn't you just advocate

678
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 1>for it? Maybe you do some sort of silent petitioning

679
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>talking to all the different players being like hey, and

680
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 1>why don't you also like come with you know, some solutions,

681
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:31.839
<v Speaker 1>being like, hey, this is what I think. Maybe we

682
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 1>cut the levels down from two hours to ninety minutes,

683
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe we cut them down to one hundred minutes.

684
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we put a day off in the middle here,

685
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 1>like maybe we do this, this and this, and like,

686
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, get some people on your side, right. I

687
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>remember years ago down at PCA. I think it was

688
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Scott Clements. This is when I forget which tournament I

689
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 1>want to say. It might have been the WPT five Diamond,

690
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>but it was one of the tournaments Appolage you had

691
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>like changed their whole schedule to be like all no

692
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>limit tournaments like one k nolmit Urm the main and

693
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Scott like made this petition and had like all these

694
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.119
<v Speaker 1>people at PCA signing. He was going around having all

695
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>these people sign this thing, because then he was gonna

696
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>go to them and say, look, this is what the

697
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>players want. They don't want this, they want this over

698
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>here like do something like that. You know, this seems

699
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 1>like this seems like hey, look at me, I'm gonna

700
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:26.119
<v Speaker 1>throw a fit about this. And yeah, I mean, first

701
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 1>of all, if you stack it correctly, there are plenty

702
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:33.119
<v Speaker 1>of days off in the Maine, okay, plenty is like,

703
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:37.119
<v Speaker 1>if you play one A, you have what three days off,

704
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.199
<v Speaker 1>four days off, three days off? Yeah, yeah, and then

705
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 1>you play ABC and then you have a day off

706
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.119
<v Speaker 1>and then you start going and then there's a day

707
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>off after you make the final table if you get

708
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that far, Like, I like what, I don't understand why

709
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.079
<v Speaker 1>you can't stack it like that. It's very easy, simple.

710
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:01.039
<v Speaker 1>This may not surprise you, but I do side with

711
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Phil Homes. I'm so shocked. I think he could tweak this.

712
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>And listen, let me also say this. Let me also

713
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>say this. I'm not necessarily saying that Phil's entire message

714
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 1>is wrong because I have said it. I think I've

715
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>said it on this podcast before. Like the times that

716
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I've played the main event, I've like caught myself being like,

717
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 1>we're still on this level type of thing. I mean,

718
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't but like his thing was about the whole endurance,

719
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>like big picture, right, like we'd put days off and

720
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.559
<v Speaker 1>this and that and whatever I would before trimming down

721
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.159
<v Speaker 1>the levels a little bit. Yeah, one hundred minute levels

722
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>whatever that is, right, And you know, I'm team no

723
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.199
<v Speaker 1>dinner break. I don't care, Like I just think dinner

724
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>breaks are ridiculous, but that's me. I also don't think that,

725
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, when he's claiming that, like sometimes you play

726
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the three am Like, I don't think that that. I

727
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>think that's more rare than it is. It is common,

728
00:35:58.039 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's oftentimes it just has to do with

729
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 1>like how the field is playing and how things are

730
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 1>breaking and what's happening, you know, versus like that's the

731
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.519
<v Speaker 1>plan from the start, Like that's not the plan from

732
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the start. You usually end right around midnight, you know,

733
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>give or take of course, Like it's it's not crazy,

734
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and you have you have a break every two hours.

735
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>You have the long dinner break, so it's not the

736
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:20.119
<v Speaker 1>worst thing in the world, you know, to grind it.

737
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And I personally do feel like, and I've said this before,

738
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I've always thought this going back to when Sebastian Ruthenberg

739
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 1>was heads up with Chris Ferguson and I believe it

740
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.079
<v Speaker 1>was the five K stud High Low event they were

741
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>playing Forever in the Amazon Earth, and I was like,

742
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, part of it is endurance. Like part that

743
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.119
<v Speaker 1>that's part of poker in certain situations. Now, should it

744
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.519
<v Speaker 1>always be an endurance match, No, but like part of

745
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 1>it is. Part of the skill of this thing is

746
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>who can play the best poker over the long haul?

747
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>And this thing is the long haul. I'm but I

748
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>also will say that I, you know, probably one hundred

749
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>minutes or whatever. But now if I'm WSOP, I would

750
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>say that I want this event to be the biggest

751
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and the best in the world, which it is, but

752
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I also wanted to have the best structure give the

753
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>most play to the players. So when there's other tournaments

754
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>out there in the world that might have ninety minute

755
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>levels on certain days, well we have to be better

756
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:20.199
<v Speaker 1>than that. Yeah. So that like that's where I would say, Okay,

757
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 1>you can't go lower than one hundred minutes, right, you know,

758
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>but let's just blow everyone out of the water, and

759
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 1>we're two hour levels.

760
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're ever going to go back to

761
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>our levels ninety minute levels on hundred minute levels. Is

762
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:33.199
<v Speaker 2>that the best way they should do it? Yeah, But

763
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 2>like you said, I don't think they're gonna They're never

764
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:39.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna wind it back. So they do you want to

765
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 2>be the biggest and best tournament in the world. I

766
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 2>think it is the biggest and best main event in

767
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:48.360
<v Speaker 2>all the world. But you know, but like I said,

768
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.519
<v Speaker 2>if I was in chidship with probably ninety minute levels

769
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 2>until you're in the money and we'll go from there.

770
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't mind doing something like that where you

771
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>stagger it. I always do think it's funny that the

772
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the everyman, you know, they are drawn to this bucket

773
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>list item event when the structure is so against them

774
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. And producer Rich Ryan has

775
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:16.159
<v Speaker 1>had this take forever that the structure is too good

776
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>in the was main event and like you get down

777
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:23.079
<v Speaker 1>to you know, day six, day seven, and everyone is

778
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>an absolute crusher. Other than maybe like a couple people,

779
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 1>everyone is pretty pretty good. The structure is very good,

780
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>and if you're not a decent player, you're just gonna

781
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 1>get eaten a lot. So now that said, while I

782
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>said that, like, if I'm doabsity, I want like the

783
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:41.599
<v Speaker 1>biggest and the best, and I want the best structure

784
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>in all of that, I would also be like, well,

785
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>how do we make the final tables where? Because this

786
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:50.199
<v Speaker 1>is obviously the biggest finel table in poker, the bigest

787
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.320
<v Speaker 1>spectacle in poker, right, how do we make it where

788
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not nine robots for lack of a better term,

789
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.079
<v Speaker 1>at the final table. Well, if you make the event

790
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>itself more of a crapshoot in a way. You know. Now,

791
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying crazy turbo like we're doing here in

792
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the studio, you know, like I'm not saying a two

793
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 1>day event or anything like that. But if you do

794
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>make the structure a little bit faster, allow for a

795
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:14.519
<v Speaker 1>little bit more gamble, you know, push people a little

796
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>bit more, then maybe you get a more colorful final table,

797
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, with some kind of wacky personality, some people

798
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that aren't just like the best of the best and

799
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>they've studied so much and all this sort of stuff.

800
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>So I can see the argument for both sides there.

801
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I just think that the way Phil went out there

802
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and like delivered this message and essentially was like attacking

803
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 1>them in a way that made it seem like he

804
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.159
<v Speaker 1>was making them force their hand, Like I'm Phil, I'm

805
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.039
<v Speaker 1>mister w Sop. I'm sitting out at the main event,

806
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.639
<v Speaker 1>you know. But if you change it, I'll come. Now.

807
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>The second part of this is that do you really

808
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 1>believe he's gonna not play. He's one hundred percent playing

809
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 1>in event. I mean, right, let's be serious, right, I

810
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 1>mean he has to play, right, Yes, like I it

811
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>just I mean I don't see any ways, someone as

812
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I saw, I saw his agent, Brian Balls, but said

813
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.800
<v Speaker 1>he's one hundred percent. Seriously, he's not sitting out. And

814
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>then I saw Sean Deep say, Phil's actually really sharp

815
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>because he realizes that bracelets are the best thing for

816
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Phil helm youth. That is, why would you get locked

817
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>up in the tournament for ten days, but instead you

818
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>can just play like fifteen different events, you know, all

819
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.599
<v Speaker 1>these like two and three day tournaments that they have

820
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:33.599
<v Speaker 1>at the WSB. That's where Phil can go play and

821
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>hopefully win, you know, another bracelet, another bracelet, another bracelet.

822
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 1>You know. So if someone brought up, you know, like

823
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:41.800
<v Speaker 1>is he really going to play not play? And I

824
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, he's playing.

825
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:45.840
<v Speaker 2>And then the guy was someone who said he must

826
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 2>have like the longest streak of WSP main events.

827
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.679
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't. I believe that belongs to Juwey Tumpko. But

828
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Phil said he's been playing since eighty nine.

829
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would probably have to bet so the year

830
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:00.599
<v Speaker 2>the year he won it, Phil is probably still top

831
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 2>five and main events play it for sure, I mean

832
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:07.400
<v Speaker 2>for sure, Yeah, so does he really I mean in succession.

833
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:09.800
<v Speaker 2>So I'm wondering if he really wants to risk that

834
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, we know feel like records. You know,

835
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.320
<v Speaker 2>he likes to have, he likes to be number one

836
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 2>in something. Is going to be a point where he's

837
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 2>close to passing Dewey Tompco because I don't know who

838
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 2>knows the Dewey plays this year. I don't think Phil

839
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:26.360
<v Speaker 2>wants to give up that. So I think we'll see

840
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:26.760
<v Speaker 2>him play.

841
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I don't I don't think you won't

842
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:34.679
<v Speaker 1>see him play. But you know, it is what it

843
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.079
<v Speaker 1>is another way that you could you know, if you

844
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>are w s ap and I guess you're entertaining because

845
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I saw, you know, his thing is like we need

846
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>a day off, and I think he also put out

847
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 1>like a solution, like my solution would be like like

848
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 1>three days day off, three days day off or something

849
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>like that, is maybe you do a split day three,

850
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:58.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, so then you can still have the option

851
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 1>of like essentially one A to a three A and

852
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 1>you you know, every other day is a day off

853
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>in kind of that scenario. You know. Of course, what

854
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I just said is not totally perfect because there's four

855
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.519
<v Speaker 1>day ones, but you guys get the points. You know,

856
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:14.199
<v Speaker 1>something something like that I think would be better than

857
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 1>just like slamming a day off in there. I al

858
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:18.599
<v Speaker 1>because because and the reason why I say that is

859
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I like that once the main event starts, like having

860
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:26.159
<v Speaker 1>it out there and happening every single day other than

861
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>the day off right before the main event, I think

862
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 1>that that's good natural promotion for the event itself. You know,

863
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 1>don't give people any sort of out to look away,

864
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 1>to not tune in to watch it, to not think

865
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>about it, like you know, have media outlets and whatever,

866
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:45.159
<v Speaker 1>not talk about it, like you want everyone talking about

867
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:48.559
<v Speaker 1>that every single day, right, So if you just slam

868
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:51.719
<v Speaker 1>this day off in there, it's like, okay, well no

869
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.639
<v Speaker 1>one's talking about it for that day, you know, they're

870
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:55.559
<v Speaker 1>talking about something else, especially the World Series, when there

871
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:57.599
<v Speaker 1>would be other stuff going on of course, you know.

872
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.800
<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, that's what I think, you know, kind

873
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 1>of breaks that. But yeah, it's funny that, you know,

874
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>if if you're doubs appear, if i'mbasp, this is the

875
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>the most frustrating. Part of this is that we just

876
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>dropped our schedule. It's a day that everyone looks forward

877
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.519
<v Speaker 1>to every single year. Like they started publicizing it, you know,

878
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.519
<v Speaker 1>last week. They were like it's coming on Monday, blah

879
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. And then Phil goes and does this and

880
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:31.039
<v Speaker 1>like essentially steals all your thunder takes all the headlines

881
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:34.639
<v Speaker 1>and whatever, and like listen, yes, in a way, all

882
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>publicity is good publicity, you know, no matter what. But

883
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>he's also like stealing it away from you and trying

884
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to make it seem like this event is not the

885
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 1>great thing that it is because it is a great event,

886
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:48.559
<v Speaker 1>you know. So yeah, I think that that would be

887
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're if you're in those offices, that

888
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>would be like what you see this thing like come

889
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 1>across your feet. You're like, he did what? Now he

890
00:43:56.199 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>said what? Like, huh what? Let's say he doesn't play,

891
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I think he puts Yeah, if he

892
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:10.039
<v Speaker 1>doesn't play, is the doubest manament softer you're mister helmet

893
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:13.360
<v Speaker 1>over there, dude, Okay, A serious question though. Do you

894
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:18.760
<v Speaker 1>think him putting this message out there actually deters anyone

895
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>from not playing? Now I'm not saying it affects the

896
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.639
<v Speaker 1>number at the end of the day, But like, are

897
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>there ten people out there in the world that say, like, yeah,

898
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Phil's right, I'm not playing. I mean, probably yes, but like, no,

899
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:34.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering. I'm sure there's.

900
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:38.440
<v Speaker 2>People that were already thinking that way anyway. So you know,

901
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.360
<v Speaker 2>we've heard people complain about stuff of the WSP and

902
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 2>it's like, Okay, well then don't come play, but they

903
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 2>always come back. So yeah, sure, maybe he's influenced ten

904
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:50.039
<v Speaker 2>people out there, but there's probably another twenty five people

905
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:52.159
<v Speaker 2>that are like, screw you, Phil, I'm gonna go I'm

906
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.519
<v Speaker 2>gonna go play even though it wasn't planning on something,

907
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, And there's look, I think you kind of

908
00:44:57.880 --> 00:44:59.760
<v Speaker 2>voice your opinion on the length to play, but you'll

909
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 2>pub still going to play.

910
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I've voiced my opinion. I would like to try and

911
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:07.239
<v Speaker 1>play it this year. When I say, like, I think

912
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:13.639
<v Speaker 1>the levels are long, it's it's not that they're The

913
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>urgency isn't there as much as I think it should be.

914
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Meaning like you you like because the levels are so long,

915
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:25.400
<v Speaker 1>people play hands and every hand lasts seven minutes because

916
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 1>everyone knows that, like you don't need you can take

917
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 1>super long because it's it's a lot right now. Like

918
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like if if you still had two hour levels,

919
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>but maybe you have clocks in play at an earlier juncture,

920
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:42.519
<v Speaker 1>it just speeds everything up, you know, because like people

921
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 1>just like there's just so much tanking and tanking and

922
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 1>tanking and thinking like all this sort of stuff because

923
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:50.639
<v Speaker 1>people can be so deliberate because there isn't that urgency.

924
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:52.320
<v Speaker 1>You're not like, oh, the blinds are gonna go up

925
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:53.639
<v Speaker 1>in twenty minutes, No, the bindes are going to go

926
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>up in seventy minutes. Like it's you know, it's just crazy.

927
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 1>So you can be like, you know what, I can

928
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of just chill and whatever. And I mean, I'm

929
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 1>not a professional poker player. I'm a recreational poker player.

930
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Do I take it seriously? Yes, very But I'm not

931
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>a professional voka player. I don't go to play a

932
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.800
<v Speaker 1>poker tournament to just sit there and fold. So I

933
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.039
<v Speaker 1>just have a hard time relating to the people who

934
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 1>bucket list item or not, Like they show up and

935
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>they literally just full and like they like the fact

936
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>that they can fold for longer because the levels are

937
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.559
<v Speaker 1>someone like aren't you there to for a competition to

938
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.079
<v Speaker 1>try and win, Like, well, I don't understand why you

939
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.400
<v Speaker 1>would just show up and just be like just fold

940
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:36.280
<v Speaker 1>to get aces and eventually like go all in, Like

941
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the best. That's how I play. Yeah, I know,

942
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to somebody. So it's been It's been a

943
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:48.559
<v Speaker 1>fun twenty four hours, uh for the World Series of

944
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Poker overall. You know, I think that the thebasity schedule

945
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>is good. You know, I would give it an as

946
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, it didn't blow my doors off, yes, but

947
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.559
<v Speaker 1>it certainly didn't go down from wherever it was before,

948
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:07.039
<v Speaker 1>unless unless I'm missing something that I don't see. But

949
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel that it's it's another good schedule

950
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:14.679
<v Speaker 1>and I think people are happy, you know, and I

951
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I know this year obviously people were like okay, gig poker,

952
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:19.559
<v Speaker 1>let's see what they do type of thing. But also

953
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.599
<v Speaker 1>just having the schedule out there allows people to start planning,

954
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.159
<v Speaker 1>start pooking trips, start being like, oh, I'm like, you know,

955
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:29.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go home like some nights this week

956
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.679
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna be like okay, like I would want

957
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to play this event here, in this event here and

958
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>this event over here, you know, like and try and

959
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of map it out in my head because that's

960
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>what you want to do. And then you know, for

961
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, myself included, that leads to you know, okay,

962
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 1>like I need to raise this much money here, I'm

963
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna sell this much action, so like, you know, you

964
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:49.159
<v Speaker 1>just have it now. You know it's not you're not

965
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.400
<v Speaker 1>just waiting on this this unknown thing that you know

966
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 1>is coming and is likely going to be similar to

967
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:55.400
<v Speaker 1>what it has last year, but you're still waiting on

968
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>for the official thing to draw. So I don't need

969
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a look at any events because I play one. Yeah

970
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you yeah, what's up with this? I just keep every year,

971
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:05.159
<v Speaker 1>I keep saying going to play the main event, and

972
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I finally, well, let me tell you how you need

973
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 1>to play one event before I end a warm up? Yeah,

974
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:10.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't need it. I'm saving all my money. I'm

975
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:15.679
<v Speaker 1>going in cold even I'm saving every dollar to my

976
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 1>name to play the WSP Man.

977
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Ever, so when I went on June seventh, when I'm

978
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.199
<v Speaker 2>like thinking about playing the Glad eight is a poker

979
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:25.920
<v Speaker 2>flight one d I need you to be like, no.

980
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:27.880
<v Speaker 1>You say that you think you're going to play the

981
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:28.199
<v Speaker 1>in of it.

982
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I'll play it day two D max late register with

983
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever blinds I get, because like sixty, that's fine, it's

984
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:37.679
<v Speaker 2>a time thing. I don't really want to waste a

985
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 2>day and a half because of our work situation and

986
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:43.280
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I'm like, I'm probably going dead in

987
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 2>early levels against superpros.

988
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.440
<v Speaker 1>So I mean yeah, but a lot of the super

989
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.519
<v Speaker 1>pros don't. Yeah, I mean yeah, they show up.

990
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.000
<v Speaker 2>That's my plan is, you know, just to play one

991
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.840
<v Speaker 2>event and it's the main event. We'll see how the

992
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 2>funds go. Put my MSPT cash to the side. There

993
00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:59.840
<v Speaker 2>you go my WPT three roll cash at the time.

994
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully it's still there in July ninth.

995
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I think this year, I'm going for one A. Okay,

996
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm going for max breaks. That's you're doing the film

997
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:14.880
<v Speaker 1>like I'm doing what film should correct. If he's complaining

998
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.719
<v Speaker 1>about like you know, I'm gonna pound a brain fuel,

999
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna play one A. I'm gonna take my three

1000
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.480
<v Speaker 1>days off. I'm gonna play two A best whatever. You know.

1001
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that that I yeah, and then you get another

1002
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.000
<v Speaker 1>day off and then it gets serious, right and then

1003
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.679
<v Speaker 1>you're like, okay, it like let's go, you know, and

1004
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:33.719
<v Speaker 1>then it's a then it's a big tournament. But I

1005
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:37.199
<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be a good summer. I'm sure you

1006
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.119
<v Speaker 1>and I will talk about it plenty. Have you Have

1007
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 1>you heard anything from the field like players today, Like

1008
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>have they had any comments on it? Has it been

1009
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.679
<v Speaker 1>any sort of talking point here at the Poke Grove Cup,

1010
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Like has anyone said anything? Is anyone commenting on Phil?

1011
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Like you know what? You should almost run a bedding

1012
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 1>pool on Phil, like show into the room and just

1013
00:49:57.320 --> 00:49:57.719
<v Speaker 1>be like.

1014
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Shot some big you know what. Last year we heard

1015
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:03.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff. This year, I haven't heard much

1016
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>at all. A little bit of discussion about the one

1017
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.360
<v Speaker 2>hundred k and you know, the twenty five k half

1018
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 2>and half, and that's what led to a little conversation

1019
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.280
<v Speaker 2>about some of the events we're going to do. But no,

1020
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.199
<v Speaker 2>it's actually surprisingly not a lot of chatter, and maybe

1021
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:20.320
<v Speaker 2>that kind of reinforces the point, you know, we've touched

1022
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 2>on where it is nothing's crazy. There's nothing like super

1023
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:27.480
<v Speaker 2>out of line, both negative or positive. So I think

1024
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the players is like, oh it's out now I can

1025
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 2>start planning my stuff. I was standing behind an unknown

1026
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:36.280
<v Speaker 2>pocal player and he was writing notes about you know,

1027
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.360
<v Speaker 2>dates and events, so it looks like he was kind

1028
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.679
<v Speaker 2>of you know, planning his schedule and it was some

1029
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:43.480
<v Speaker 2>bigger buying stuff. So maybe he's trying to put his

1030
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 2>own like you know, package together that he can sell.

1031
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:49.079
<v Speaker 2>So I guess that's probably just at the forefront of

1032
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.239
<v Speaker 2>everyone's mind right now, is just creating their own schedule

1033
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:53.239
<v Speaker 2>and focusing on that.

1034
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 1>And also, you know, as it relates to the dovs AP,

1035
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>now that the doc schedule is out for the year,

1036
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>all the dates are locked in, the events are locked in.

1037
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Now is when you start to get the other venues

1038
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>around town will start dropping their schedules, you know, or

1039
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 1>or at least they can now fully flesh out their

1040
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:14.039
<v Speaker 1>schedules and line everything up, because you know, you don't

1041
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.039
<v Speaker 1>want to like have a big event competing with certain

1042
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:17.760
<v Speaker 1>events that of pee, you kind of want to dance

1043
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>around each other all that sort of stuff. So you know,

1044
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:24.039
<v Speaker 1>the wind Poker Aria like et cetera. MGM usually has

1045
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:26.199
<v Speaker 1>stuff in the summer, Gold Nugget has stuff like all

1046
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 1>these places have. Venetian of course has massive STUFFGTGT yes

1047
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:34.280
<v Speaker 1>as well, you know, but everyone's able to kind of like, okay,

1048
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.159
<v Speaker 1>this is out, you know, we can do our thing now.

1049
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.559
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, the other thing I wanted to ask you

1050
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:45.599
<v Speaker 1>is super super early take ten and twelve entries? Is

1051
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.119
<v Speaker 1>the record? Really they're going over, just going over. I've

1052
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:55.199
<v Speaker 1>always been no, I don't know what you were. Actually

1053
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.280
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand, So two years ago, ten thousand and forty

1054
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.800
<v Speaker 1>three entries, first time ever, A ten thousand beat the

1055
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 1>previous record of eight thousand, seven hundred and seventy six.

1056
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was so smashed it massive increase, massive increase, massive,

1057
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and then last year ten and twelve, So are they

1058
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 1>going to do it again? They're going to crush it.

1059
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 1>And here's why it's very soon. As crush it means

1060
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 1>like you crush it means eleven thousand, or like ten thousand,

1061
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 1>three hundred, Yeah, more like ten thousands.

1062
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, first year that it is owned by Gigi Poker,

1063
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.400
<v Speaker 2>they're going to do something absode online with something like

1064
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.880
<v Speaker 2>three thousand seats and packages all kinds of that.

1065
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Same with Club GG. I think more. I think more

1066
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:42.039
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff comes next year, but I still think

1067
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>they're going to obviously have all I think they're going

1068
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<v Speaker 1>to start.

1069
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:45.159
<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to just try and blow it

1070
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:48.480
<v Speaker 2>out every year, do as big as big as possible,

1071
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and with this being their first year, they want to

1072
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:52.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of hit it.

1073
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<v Speaker 1>Hard, and I'm only in on the others. I think

1074
00:52:56.639 --> 00:53:01.320
<v Speaker 1>it comes in over to I just generally think that poker,

1075
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>live poker, I should say, is in a very healthy spot.

1076
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:09.119
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I feel like most of the negative

1077
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff that comes out about poker is all directed at

1078
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:16.760
<v Speaker 1>online poker specifically, and then you know, live poker. I

1079
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:22.039
<v Speaker 1>just I feel like fields everywhere are very healthy, if not,

1080
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:26.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, up a lot, there's a lot of poker around,

1081
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:30.440
<v Speaker 1>so you know, even if even if specific events may

1082
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:33.800
<v Speaker 1>see like year over year declines or they're just holding

1083
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:37.239
<v Speaker 1>steady and not really seeing a big increase, oftentimes there's

1084
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 1>like two tournaments or two big series going on at

1085
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:43.719
<v Speaker 1>one time, and in that case, like they're both doing

1086
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.559
<v Speaker 1>extremely healthy. Whereas you know in years past, maybe there's

1087
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a time when it's just one series and then that

1088
00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:51.079
<v Speaker 1>allows for that one series to get all the attention

1089
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and everyone to go there. Even stuff like the high

1090
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>roller stuff that we see on Triton, the stuff that

1091
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 1>we see here in the studio with all of our

1092
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:02.079
<v Speaker 1>events everything is you know, going very well. You see

1093
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it a lot when you play at the Wind, you

1094
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:07.239
<v Speaker 1>see it down the street at Venetian, you know. So yeah,

1095
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 1>I think Live Poker is in a really good spot.

1096
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:12.320
<v Speaker 1>So I would I would only guess that that carries

1097
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 1>over to the biggest series of the year, and that

1098
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:17.880
<v Speaker 1>is the World Series pok And you know, we see

1099
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:21.159
<v Speaker 1>an increase in the devisity mainavent field size. I'm not

1100
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 1>saying it's going to be some ridiculously crazy large increase,

1101
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.880
<v Speaker 1>but I think, you know, I'll go with ten thousand,

1102
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:34.039
<v Speaker 1>four hundred is my number right now. I'm sure we'll

1103
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 1>we'll feel things out, you know, we'll try and keep

1104
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:39.760
<v Speaker 1>our finger on the pulse and feel what people are saying,

1105
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:42.320
<v Speaker 1>what they're going to be doing, all that sort of stuff. Actually,

1106
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I should say ten three and ninety nine because we

1107
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:50.400
<v Speaker 1>won't have the Hammi from there. But maybe we'll replace

1108
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll replace Philammy with the Sun who has been playing.

1109
00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:59.039
<v Speaker 1>He's been playing, you know, better than help with the

1110
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<v Speaker 1>well he can he you know, he's probably got more stamina,

1111
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, being younger. She doesn't need to. He just

1112
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.360
<v Speaker 1>put his son in. That's what you do. And coach

1113
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:08.480
<v Speaker 1>him on the side. No, don't, no coach. Well, that's

1114
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 1>that's like not a lot, right, that's yeah, that's not that.

1115
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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, mister w S's gonna standard laptop,

1116
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:16.440
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, he.

1117
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<v Speaker 2>Might not even own a lot. Real quick PGT dot

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, that's Tim Duckworth. My name is Tony Peters, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're out next time.

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