WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.160 The following presentation is a Al Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:29.359 When you look me on the sky, do you feel? 3 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:31.280 The poll question. 4 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:38.479 Why the stories told and left me behind? 5 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:46.159 In shadows where the truth we find? They built their 6 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:52.520 tails on grafts and lines on theories they stake their 7 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:59.880 designed put down here on this solid. 8 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:06.599 Graph, the answer screen. There, welcome back truth seekers from 9 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:10.319 around the world. It's time for another edition of the 10 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:15.280 Flat Earth Files podcast. I'm your host as always, George Hobbs. 11 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.439 Hope everybody had a great year as this is the 12 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:24.040 finale for twenty twenty four and our guest Andrew will 13 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:27.519 be joining us in just a moment. Just a couple 14 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:30.560 of housekeeping notes, please do stop by the website, the 15 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:35.120 flat Earthfiles dot com. We have blog posts for every episode. 16 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:37.959 We have our podcast fault there. We have a chat 17 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:42.200 room which has been having a hearty conversation about the 18 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.879 recent expedition of a few people who had gone down 19 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:48.480 to Antarctica. I think it was called the Final Experiment, 20 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.640 So feel feary to join the chat there. 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The email address can 27 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.240 be found in the show notes of the podcast and 28 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:21.520 on the blog notes of every podcast on the website. 29 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:25.039 And without any further ado, let's bring on our guests. 30 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:26.759 By the way, should I call you Andrew or Andy? 31 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:28.520 Andrew? 32 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:32.879 Please, Andrew, it's great to meet you, joining us from Minnesota, 33 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:36.919 and I appreciate your patience as we're finally able to 34 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:38.919 get you here on the podcast and to close out 35 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.639 twenty twenty four. Thanks for joining us, and please do 36 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:44.120 introduce yourself to the audience. 37 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:49.400 Thanks for having me. George been a fan of the 38 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.719 podcast for a while now. But my name is Andrew 39 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:59.080 from Minnesota. And yeah, like the rest of you and 40 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:04.599 the listeners, I have kind of recently a few years ago, 41 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:07.879 discovered that Earth's flat. 42 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:14.479 Biggest question. I'm sorry, I didn't know if you were 43 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:15.840 done or no? 44 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:16.319 Go ahead? 45 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:18.840 No, I was going to ask you. You know you 46 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:21.159 said this came upon you a few years ago. I 47 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.039 think in your email you'd said it's been about three 48 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:26.159 years or so, was this the first rabbit hole you 49 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:29.879 fell into, or had you been researching other things before 50 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:31.039 you came upon flat Earth? 51 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:35.800 Yeah, no, this was not the first. One of the 52 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:42.520 first ones was the Hollow Earth. Actually, Admiral Burden and 53 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:47.360 that story if you're familiar with that, absolutely, And then 54 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:52.960 of course everybody's favorite seems like is the the moon 55 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:59.960 landing or the fake moon landing? And then uh, it's 56 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:03.439 started off as I just used to think it was 57 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:09.719 funny how globers and flat earthers were in chat rooms 58 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:13.719 and just across the internet, we're just going after each other, 59 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:18.759 and how people get so worked up about it. I 60 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:20.839 thought it was funny. And of course at the time, 61 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:26.639 I never even had considered that the Earth could be flat. 62 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:32.319 I had done no research, and I just thought, probably 63 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:39.120 like everyone else, that of course the Earth's globe, that's 64 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.600 that's duh. You know, you don't even think twice about 65 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:47.079 that stuff. But then so the joke let me down 66 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.360 the flat earth rabbit hole. And then as I did 67 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:57.279 more and more research, I was like, holy crap. I 68 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:01.120 was like, and uh, I kind of hesitate to tell 69 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:08.519 anybody about it, because, as you probably well know, you 70 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:14.560 got to choose your audience with that subject. 71 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:15.360 You really do, and. 72 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:17.519 I was not. 73 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:21.439 Out of all the things that ran through my mind, 74 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:23.480 that wasn't one of them. I was so excited to 75 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.399 share that with my audience on my other podcast, and 76 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.519 boy was my email my email full the next day. 77 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:33.319 So I figured that out pretty quickly. I wanted to 78 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:36.319 go back real quick before we get too far ahead. 79 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:41.240 When you were researching Holloworth, I never went super deep 80 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:45.240 into that, obviously. I've heard the stories and the interview 81 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:50.480 with Admiral Byrd and all the stories when you were 82 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:53.360 going down that rabbit hole? Did it? A lot of 83 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:58.600 people who research Holloworth kind of fall into the reptilian 84 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.560 one as well as that something that you would come across. 85 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:07.519 Yeah, I did come across that. That was not uh 86 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:13.879 it's interesting to me or or believable as the fact 87 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:20.839 that Admiral Bird got escorted his plane escorted by flying 88 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:26.319 saucers with Swasikas on them, and that story goes, Yeah, 89 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:30.959 there's some remnants of a of a of German or 90 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.279 civilization that lives in the hollow earth. 91 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:38.720 Right, and that explains new Man. I can't think I 92 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:41.319 can't remember the name of it, but the Germans had 93 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:43.439 a base in Antarctica prior to World War Two in 94 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.360 the in the early to mid nineteen thirties, New Braunfels 95 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:48.360 or something like that. It escapes my mind. 96 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:51.279 Right now, that sounds correct. 97 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:53.319 Go ahead, I'm. 98 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:58.920 Sorry, yeah, no, the Yeah. Then the other ideas were 99 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:04.839 that that maybe where Hitler fled to during the war, 100 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:11.360 and that there's some sort of underground or in under 101 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:18.519 earth there tunnels are portals if you will, that can 102 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:20.639 take you all over the planet. 103 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:25.600 Yeah, that's interesting. By the way, New Schwabenland I think 104 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:27.439 was the name of it here and I'll have that 105 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.399 link in the notes. Yeah, that is interesting because there's 106 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:34.279 a lot of people who argue that Argentina was a 107 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:38.199 diversion and that he it's interesting. History. As we know, 108 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:43.279 it is skewed, right, the victors write the history books. 109 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:50.079 But it always fascinated me that Germany after how bankrupt 110 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:53.439 they were, Like there's pictures I think in the late twenties, 111 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:56.360 maybe even nineteen thirty, of people walking down the streets 112 00:07:56.399 --> 00:08:00.240 with wheelbears full of cash like and it wasn't worth 113 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:02.959 a dime. And and then a few years later they 114 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.839 have a base in Antarctica and all of a sudden, 115 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.040 you know, World War two breaks out of It is 116 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.759 a very interesting time in history that I certainly believe 117 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:12.439 that they hide the truth about. 118 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:16.879 Yeah, and if you dig deep a little bit onto 119 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:22.399 that there's a theory or a story that goes the 120 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:28.120 US government in some way funded Hitler's rise to power 121 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:32.080 and then basically that funded the Nazi regime. 122 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.840 Yeah, for sure, and IBM did as well. I think 123 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.200 it's ig Farbin, which played a large part in the 124 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:46.360 industrial rise of uh, you know, Germany post Weimar and 125 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:49.200 their industrial rise, the creation of the v W, the 126 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:53.120 Autubah and uh you know, about as quickly as they rose, 127 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:56.799 they fell. But it is an interesting time period that 128 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:02.159 has a lot of interesting twists and and plot holes 129 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.559 in it. And then, you know, as they say in Hollywood, 130 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:07.279 they create a certain narrative to lead you down a 131 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.000 kind of a different road. And you know, you were 132 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:12.919 just talking about the moon landing was one of the 133 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:17.440 things that you kind of researched and kind of I 134 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:20.279 assume led you to flat Earth. You know, it's a 135 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:23.840 shame Stanley Stanley Kubrick didn't get an Academy Award for 136 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:26.080 that Moon Landing movie in nineteen sixty nine. 137 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:35.840 Huh yeah, allegedly, I mean yeah, depending on who you ask. 138 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:39.320 Yeah, yeah, that guy's got a lot of interesting connections. 139 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:42.480 Eyes wide shut was I think that was the movie 140 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:44.559 that was based on the Rothschild's party in England in 141 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:49.080 nineteen seventy three and Warner brother Warner Brothers executives saw 142 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.200 it in a hotel and they flipped out, and then 143 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:53.159 he was dead the next morning and they ended up 144 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:56.240 cutting out like thirty minutes of the film. 145 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:00.080 And then have you seen that the supposed video of 146 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:04.639 Kubrick after his death, him admitting that he filmed the 147 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:05.240 moon landing? 148 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:12.879 You know, I have. I'm not sure, yes I have. 149 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.919 I mean to answer your question, yes, whether or not 150 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.919 that was created by someone else. But I fully believe 151 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.440 there's a picture of there's like four or five people 152 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:24.879 a Kubrick. I want to say it was Von Brown 153 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:28.320 and a couple other people within the space you know, 154 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:32.440 very very high ranking in the space agencies that were 155 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:34.960 with him. That picture is one hundred percent legit and 156 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:37.879 was taken I think either in sixty seven or sixty eight, 157 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.960 and I think it was probably if I remember correctly, 158 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.720 you know, that infamous year of nineteen sixty eight, which 159 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:47.080 is when they started building the World Trade Center towers 160 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:50.919 and the Jets won the Super Bowl. I think that 161 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:52.759 was the year two thousand and one of Space Odyssey 162 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:56.320 came out, and I think it was so ahead of 163 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.639 its time. That was his resume, you know, to lead 164 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:01.440 the chart on the moon landing production. 165 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:05.039 Yeah, that's that's That's how I understand it too. 166 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:11.240 It's interesting stuff kind of what was Was it a website? 167 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:15.600 Was it a YouTube channel? But when you started your research, 168 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:19.759 where were you looking and what evidence that was produced 169 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:21.919 to you that really led you to believe that we 170 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:23.080 weren't on a spinning ball? 171 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:28.080 Yeah, I couldn't tell you the exact spot, but it was. 172 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:33.720 It was, like I said, I used to not chat rooms, 173 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:36.399 I guess because those aren't really a thing anymore, but 174 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.600 probably like Twitter, Reddit or something where I used to. 175 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:45.879 I just like to laugh at the back and forth 176 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:50.080 between the you know, the glovers. What do you call 177 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.919 them glovers? I don't want to use some people I've 178 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.320 heard globe chard, which I thought was kind of kind 179 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:57.840 of mean, kind of unnecessary. 180 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.639 Yeah, that's yeah, I call them globers. I guess you know, 181 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:05.039 I try to, you know, I you know, Bill Cooper 182 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.879 used to term sheeple, and I try not to use 183 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.480 anything that's condescending towards other people because I was a 184 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:13.720 walking zombie for much of my life as well, you know, 185 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:17.039 just I accepted the world as it was produced to me. 186 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.879 So we should treat everyone with the same respect. And 187 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:22.399 all we can do is lead them to water. It's 188 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:24.080 up to them to do what they do with the information. 189 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.000 But I don't. I don't like to be condescending to people. 190 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:28.519 But you know, your your your pro globe people and 191 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:30.200 your pro flat earth people, I guess. 192 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:35.799 Right right, Yeah, in the same way, there's no reason 193 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:42.559 to get nasty because you disagree on something. And yeah, 194 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:47.519 it's uh, it's tough to lead people to this subject 195 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:52.600 because you don't want to. You don't want to look 196 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.879 like an idiot, because that's what a lot of people 197 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.159 will look at you as if you bring this up. 198 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.759 Yeah, and also if you're condescending to them, they'll shut down, 199 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:04.879 they won't even listen to you. 200 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.679 It seems to me that though from watching, you know, 201 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:12.879 reading and the research and all the back and forth, 202 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:18.639 is that the the globe believers seem to get way 203 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:23.320 more emotional about this subject. And there they seem to 204 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:28.200 be the ones quick to, you know, using derogatory or 205 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:32.720 insults against flat earthers. 206 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:35.960 Yeah, I'll tell you when you look at the way 207 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:39.120 that like flat Earth Dave presents something, and then you 208 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:41.440 look at the other guy, what was his name, Professor Dave, 209 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:46.440 where he is just strictly condescending and if you don't 210 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:49.639 agree with everything he says, then you're just a dummy 211 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:51.919 and he doesn't have the time of day for you. 212 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:57.320 And that's just you know, nobody voted for him to 213 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:01.720 be the end all be all of questions about our realm. 214 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:05.919 We're all entitled to our beliefs. There's people out I 215 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:07.559 get emails all the time. There's stole, a lot of 216 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:11.759 people who believe in Holloworth flat Earth. There's people who 217 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:15.879 want to be convinced of flat Earth. They'll email me 218 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:19.039 and say, hey, I really want to be a flat earther, 219 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:23.360 but can you explain X y Z. And I'm like, look, 220 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:27.240 you know, we have three hundred hours of information presented 221 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:29.879 to you. It's up to you to take that information 222 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:32.720 and research for yourself. I don't want to be the 223 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:34.879 one I don't want to convince I'm not a salesman, right, 224 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:37.879 I'm not selling you a car, I'm not selling you 225 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.000 a vacuum cleaner. I'm not a Kirby vacuum cleaner salesman. 226 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:45.320 I'm just presenting my opinion and what I believe. And 227 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:49.120 the reason that is is because I've seen firsthand through 228 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:51.440 my time in the military and other ventures, that the 229 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:55.440 game is rigged and we are being lied to in 230 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:58.480 epic proportions. And I did enough research to understand that. 231 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.759 You know, for many I believed the moon landing was rigged, 232 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:05.600 So why didn't I Why didn't I have an open 233 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:07.360 mind too that maybe we weren't on. 234 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:13.120 A globe, so you uh, you were able to believe 235 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.159 the moon landing was fake, but not weren't quite ready 236 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:19.600 for flat Earth at the time. Well, it's. 237 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.440 I don't even know how to, so it's not. It 238 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:26.559 never even really came on my radar, like I guess 239 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:28.360 if I saw it in all my studies, I just 240 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.039 scooted it past it. I thought, well, that's just you know, 241 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:34.240 you know, I picture a flat Earth or of some 242 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:36.559 guy that was, you know, living in a cabin in 243 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.519 a mountain three thousand miles from the closest you know, 244 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:43.639 other person. I just didn't give it a second of thought, 245 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.399 Like like you if I was on Reddit or something 246 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:48.519 and I saw something flat Earth, I just kind of 247 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:52.720 laughed and I thought, you know, now that's crazy, and 248 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:56.519 I just didn't realize I didn't have the wherewithal to 249 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.919 understand that we're being lied about basically everything. 250 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:05.879 Well, yeah, see, that's when you start down one rabbit hole, 251 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:10.639 whether it's the moon landing or even hollow Earth or 252 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:15.360 any conspiracies it seemed to then you have one leads 253 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:19.200 to another, and then that's pretty much how I got 254 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.679 to flat Earth. And then uh yeah, doing the research, 255 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:27.879 I was like, holy crap. I was like, I can't 256 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:31.200 really believe that I believe in this right now, but 257 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:39.240 you know, you're It's taught me that we should trust 258 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:44.879 our senses more and not believe everything that you read, 259 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:48.120 and certainly not believe everything that you're told. 260 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:51.919 One hundred percent. That was one of my biggest takeaways 261 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:54.240 as well. And I want to preface this statement with 262 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.840 once again, I'm not taking a shot at teachers. I'm 263 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:00.679 talking about the system that is in place. Teach is 264 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:04.960 a very noble profession, but I too, like going through school, 265 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.920 we would be presented with helio centrism, and there were 266 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:10.599 some things that didn't make sense to me, which says, 267 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:14.240 you know, my sense is it didn't feel right, but 268 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:18.160 I didn't number one year younger. A lot of people 269 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:20.799 are afraid to ask questions in school to be made 270 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:25.039 fun of. Right, We've all experienced that in school, so 271 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:29.079 you just kind of run with it. And right, it's 272 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:32.079 people that are smarter than you. Right, the teacher turns 273 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:35.559 on the projector and there's Neil de grass Tyson or 274 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:39.359 you know, Joe Astrama or PhD. He's got a PhD 275 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:42.799 from Arizona State and Penn State. And you're like, well, 276 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:45.519 guys a lot smarter than me, So I just better 277 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.559 accept it. But then you understand and twenty twenty proved 278 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.519 this that most of these things have an end state 279 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:57.880 that ends with a dollar sign. That's why you know 280 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:02.319 Ffiser that were making four billion dollars a quarter during 281 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:05.279 the you know, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, et cetera. 282 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:08.839 And then as things fizzled out, they're stock bottomed out. 283 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:12.920 So there's money to be made in everything in the world. 284 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:17.519 What's in the news today, Andrew. It's the government funding, right, 285 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:20.279 and they were up against the wall to get passed. 286 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:24.880 If people want funding, they have to be deemed important, right. 287 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:28.039 How you know, if you put an asteroid into Google, 288 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:32.119 you'll there'll be a recent story about an asteroid that 289 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:34.359 is somewhere near the Earth. Just go to Google and 290 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:38.039 put it in. So they have to be wanted, they 291 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:40.440 have to be important in order to get that funding, 292 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:42.480 and the almighty dollar plays a big part of it, 293 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:47.240 other than the Grand Scheme, which we know is deception. Right. 294 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:50.720 And that's probably the most upsetting thing that I've learned 295 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:55.839 after doing all this research, is that especially when it 296 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.599 comes to like say NASA, so if they're they can't 297 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:04.599 get to they're just taking all of our taxpayer's money 298 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:08.960 and doing god knows what with it exactly. 299 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:11.160 And we see every week, you know, and anybody who 300 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:15.880 drives here in Minnesota, maybe you're near Minneapolis or Saint Paul, 301 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.720 we have a you know, if I drive up to Wilmington, 302 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:20.920 you see the condition of some of these cities and 303 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:23.720 how our own you know, citizens here are being neglected. 304 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:26.799 Then you turn on the news and there's forty million 305 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:31.039 dollars for this country and I dive much deeper than that. 306 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:33.400 I look through the major nonprofits. Go look at the 307 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.839 Carnegie Go to Google everybody and put in the Carnegie 308 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.240 Foundation nine ninety, put in the Bill and Melinda Gates 309 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:44.759 Foundation nine ninety, and then put in the Rockefeller Foundation 310 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:48.279 nine ninety. The numbers that you see there are numbers 311 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:52.079 that you can't even comprehend. And then when you scroll 312 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:54.079 down and look to see where the money goes and 313 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:58.039 how people who are involved in this air quote nonprofit, 314 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.960 you know they're getting paid handsomely. It's all it's all 315 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:07.880 a rig scheme. And now you know, while you were talking, 316 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:09.720 I went to Google and put in asteroid. 317 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:10.720 Now they're. 318 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.319 You know how they're pushing for like carbon taxes. And 319 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:18.720 here in Delaware, we're not allowed to have plastic bags 320 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:20.039 at the at the you know, if you go to 321 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.720 the Dollar store, Walmart, they all have to be paper bags. 322 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:25.759 We have paper straws and all the other nonsense. Well, 323 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:29.480 now they're pushing they they want a greener outer space. 324 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.559 The Washington Post wrote an article five hours ago, how 325 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:38.680 we need to keep space clean from all the space junk. 326 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.920 We need to go out there and keep our space clean. 327 00:20:43.319 --> 00:20:48.200 It's funny because when you watch videos of the iss 328 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.920 or moonwalks, it looks pretty clean if they're working it 329 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:53.880 up in space there. 330 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:58.200 I've never seen a McDonald samburger wrapper floating by watching that, 331 00:20:58.279 --> 00:20:59.960 have you. 332 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:02.720 Nope, it certainly not in or a satellite. 333 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:05.279 Yeah, that's the thing. What are the things you never 334 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:08.119 really see? You never see stars, you never see satellites. 335 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.599 And then there's a website forgive me, I don't know 336 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.440 what off the top of my head, but if you 337 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:19.839 go to it, it shows you all the satellites that 338 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:23.200 that are, you know, that's orbiting the Earth, and it's 339 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:27.480 just it looks like a like a city population or 340 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:29.759 like you know, Dave's app that's got the people find 341 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:31.960 or all the blue dots. It looks like that. But 342 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:35.880 you know, you got this thing flying supposedly seventeen thousand, 343 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:38.920 five hundred miles an hour. People are just floating out 344 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:41.480 there as seamless as can be and not a thing 345 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:41.920 in sight. 346 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:52.240 Makes perfect sense when you say it like that, exactly. Yeah, 347 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.359 that's I think the last number I saw was nine 348 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:58.839 nine hundred satellites supposedly in orbit. 349 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:04.880 Yeah, and they've been since. Do you remember when the 350 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:07.119 first satellite. Was it fifties or sixties? 351 00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:12.240 Oh, I think it was. I feel like it was 352 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:17.480 the fifties. But what was the first satellite was Sputneck. 353 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:18.160 Is that a satellite? 354 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:21.079 Yeah, that was the Russian one. The first artificial satellite 355 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:25.200 to orbit Earth was Sputnik one, launched by the Soviet 356 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:29.519 Union October fourth, nineteen fifty seven. They claim it was 357 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:36.759 about the size of a beach ball and it speed 358 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:42.680 was eighteen thousand miles per hour. And that's what I 359 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:46.279 don't get right. I remember I used to sell satellite 360 00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:49.519 dishes back in the nineties between my break and service, 361 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:52.880 but I never went on installations. However, when we got 362 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:55.200 to Iraq, I think was our second tour, we got 363 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:59.480 this something bird satellite system and I went up on 364 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:02.079 the roof and you have to put it like exactly 365 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:05.759 to this certain degree you know, maybe it was fifty 366 00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:09.519 eight degrees or something, and it took a lot of 367 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:12.799 effort to get it exactly right. And I'm like, wait 368 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:17.920 a second, it And I actually thought and like I 369 00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:20.200 would think these things, but just go about my day 370 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:22.759 and put it in the filing cabinet forget about it. 371 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:24.960 I'm like, if we're spinning at a thousand. Well, I 372 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:27.039 just didn't I didn't know how much. I just thought, 373 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.440 if we're spinning and kind of you know, all these 374 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:34.400 things are, if satellites are orbiting the Earth, why do 375 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:38.039 I have to have this exact measurement? Now there's some 376 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:40.240 guy right now who's at home saying, oh, you dummy, 377 00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:41.400 it's because of X y Z. 378 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:44.200 But sure, But would you'd think, yeah, and if the 379 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:48.000 satellite's move in, you'd think you'd be constantly adjusting that thing. 380 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:49.759 Right, or it would have some kind of sensor on 381 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:52.039 it that could kind of rotate and follow it or something. 382 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:54.319 Right, That's what I would think. 383 00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.400 Now, now I have to I should dig this podcast 384 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.799 up and play it so on my fact Hunder podcast 385 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:02.440 in I want to say it was a spring of 386 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:05.640 twenty twenty two. There was a gentleman who came on 387 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:10.480 anonymously and he claimed that there was no such thing 388 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:14.680 as satellites, but they were actually bouncing signals off the 389 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:18.480 firmament at a certain angle, and that's how those things worked. 390 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:23.640 I've been not heard that one, but it's interesting to 391 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:24.519 think about. 392 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:28.039 It is, and you know, I thought about it. You know, 393 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:32.240 I think that the highest anyone's been is what seventy 394 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:36.200 three miles? And I think that was a go fast rocket. 395 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:38.279 I don't know how high the firmament is, so it's 396 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:41.880 really hard to say. But something like that bouncing it off, 397 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:44.039 you know, because it is solid. You know a lot 398 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:48.880 of people think it's ice like to me, makes more 399 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.559 sense than the satellite dish to orbiting satellite. 400 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:01.759 Yeah, that makes more sense to me as well. That's 401 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:10.720