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Victor Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend and spreading the word about
the pirate ship. Thank you for supporting those that support us.
And we have some new things to tell.
Speaker 1: You about the loving days. All right, Oh yeah, I'm excited.
We're gonna race all the cars down at Victor Chrysler
Dives Jeep. Yes, we should. Wouldn't that be great?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be That would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You know what I've always wanted to do. No, that
could be a lot of things. I always want to
get tractor dealerships to like race the tractors. I think
that would be cool. Get in my grass you have
to move.
Speaker 2: Kind of Oh you mean you mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can you can do tractors.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like John Deere, big ass tracks.
Speaker 1: You can do that too.
Speaker 2: Have different weight classes, so the tractors have gotten so
like technology.
Speaker 1: Now zero turn and all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well not even I'm not talking a lot more.
I'm talking about like, go out in the field and
plow these things. The new ones are set up. You
got you know, satellite radio in there. Oh yeah, you've
got you know, drink cup holders and you know, massage chairs,
and it's like, oh yeah, it's amazing and they're very,
very expensive.
Speaker 1: And it costs more than a home in nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 2: I might yeah, I would say that's probably more Haiti. Now, yes,
I would think. So what was a home in nineteen
fifty five?
Speaker 1: Do you know? Off the cop I think it's like
four thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: I was wondering if it was. I was gonna say
thirty five hundred, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It might be. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We have a thinking box, but I have Kevin.
Speaker 1: Can you look at He's probably at home right now, Hill, Texas.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because we we learn history and
the history, well we learn history, and the history we're
taught is kind.
Speaker 1: Of boring and sometimes slanted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's fair to say.
Speaker 1: I would think.
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, history is such a What I
always liked is it's such a story. I love the
story of things, and somebody sent me something and I
didn't think it was real, so I had to look
it up. And it's a great piece of history, like
really interesting because we hear about the wars and the
disagreements and the things and the fights for the land
and the supremacy and then this and then that. But
you got to remember these were people living their lives
at the same time. And there's somebody sent me something
called a queening chair.
Speaker 1: Do you know what a queening chair is? No? Is
it from Game of Thrones? No? Okay, well, hang on
a second.
Speaker 2: It could be from the time that Game of Thrones
is trying to h create. Okay, that period. Have not
seen one episode of Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: I tried not to. My wife is obsessed with the show.
And there was one episode where they they call it
the red Wedding episode and when you watch it, you
know why they call it the Red Wedding. And I
looked at her and I said, is it because somebody
had a period?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I wish oh, oh, because they I said to.
Speaker 1: My wife, I will never watch this show again. It
was like it was so bad, like it made like
oj like made in America, seemed g rated like the
fourth episode where they showed all the gore and stuff. Yeah,
or the third episode yeah, okay, that was the walk
through Brentwood compared to this episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was off. I go, Beth, I will never watch
this show with you again. Yeah. I should have warned
you about that. I can't. I can't do blooding now.
I watched the Passion of the Christ. That's my limit.
Speaker 2: I wonder it was Jesus if if they'll be have
the balls to put a queening chair in.
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. Okay, so what is a queening chair.
Speaker 2: It's a face sitting chair or a straddle chair.
Speaker 1: Is it like when you get a massages?
Speaker 2: No, not exactly, because.
Speaker 1: Like you put your face like on a massage chair,
you do through like the little donut hold the time,
and then someone goes to town on your back. Yes. Yeah,
I've had a few of those. Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Is a piece of furniture designed to allow one person
to sit comfortably while another person has access to their
pelvic or intimate area from below. It is often associated
with intimate or sexual activities, particularly involving dominance and submission
dynamics of BDSM. The chair typically features an open seat
or paddle frame with a cutout to provide access, a
sturdy design to support the weight of the person sitting
on it, sometimes adjustable heights or additional cushioning for comfort.
While its primary use is associated with specific intimate acts,
it can also be stylistically or novelty furniture items. Depends
on the context in which it's used.
Speaker 1: Could you go back and read that entire description? Like
rod roddy from the price is right? That's cute? Can
be yours if the price is right? All right? What
do you want to bet on? One dollar? Bob? All right? Well?
Speaker 2: Here is here is from YouTube a historical piece about
the chair.
Speaker 4: Immerse yourself in an intriguing tale from the Middle Ages.
Picture this. Wealthy women, left alone while their husbands embarked
on long journeys, found companionship in a rather peculiar form
of servitude known as tongue slaves. These men provided pleasure
while the women maintained their marital fidelity. Fascinating turn. In
ancient Persia, craftsmen designed queening chairs, unique furniture pieces created
to cradle the man's head and neck for extended periods.
The women would gracefully perch on these chairs, their dresses
cascading over with a strategically placed opening for the man's face.
A riveting peek into the intimate practices of the past,
reminding us that history isn't just about battles and royalty.
Speaker 2: That's about getting yourself yourself off.
Speaker 1: This is the thing, forced to get yourself off, forcing
someone else.
Speaker 2: To get you off. Yes, this says. In the Middle Ages,
many women of wealth had male tongue slaves that would
serve them whenever their husbands were away. So here's what's
interesting that the actually lay tongue slave.
Speaker 1: I presume that, uh, there were some people who would
probably just do this voluntarily.
Speaker 2: I guess, But I don't know that would be a
slave and get paid for it. I mean that's yeah, Well,
you were, you were in servitude. You probably did other things.
You probably had some had to clean up after. Let
me check my schedule today. Shit, I'm on tongue duty.
Speaker 1: At least you got Queen Mary.
Speaker 2: I got her sister the idea and her mother of
only sitting on a man's face would allow them to
experience some pleasure but remain faithful to their husband.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like a glory hole of the Ages.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a way.
Speaker 1: Like he we I don't know what's going on over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they know who's there. In ancient Persia
which is now frickin' Persians, Iran queening chairs were crafted
to cradle the men's So some guy went, oh, God, damn.
Speaker 1: You gotta give me a break.
Speaker 2: Here the man's head and neck for support in case
he was called to service many women. And somehow bob,
you got a full load today?
Speaker 1: Who am I starting with? Well? You got the whole family? Wow?
The Smith's are coming in the means the Persians. Could
you imagine?
Speaker 2: Like this is wild to me? And I thought it
was made up and it is it is not. H Yeah,
so these guys made these chairs, and so the.
Speaker 1: Middle Ages is after Christ right yeah, okay, so it's
like all right, all right, so it's it's like in
the like thirteen. Yeah, I don't know when. Do you
know the time is long after Alexander the Great?
Speaker 2: Then do you know the time period that uh, Game
of Thrones is portraying.
Speaker 1: I think Game of Thrones is actually a fictional.
Speaker 2: Made up somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, all right, But but Apparently it all
took place in Greenland. Is that where they shot him?
So they might be Dutch, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, women would sit in the chair and drape their
dress over it. There was a hole they'd sit over
where the man's face would be, and so you would
sit there. I wonder if they held meetings.
Speaker 1: He's look a mechanic, like a race and Randy, he's
got one of those things on his wheel, like those
those one of those things called that you like when
you get under the car. Money you got to your
your camshaft, Buddy is messed up. I gotta get a
price on this parts and labor alone. He marries you.
Speaker 2: The abitarres rotated and her oil changed.
Speaker 1: Buddy, Buddy, I gotta do this. I've been doing this
for forty years, but doing block work. I had surgery
on my neck. Yeah, car and disability is not going
to pay for that. Goody's got that.
Speaker 2: Job, Randy, what happened to your nose? Queen? Mary fell
off the chair landed on my face. It's like, but
this is amazing that I find that stuff interesting and
I know it's there. Yes, so there's perversion to it, obviously,
it's titillating, it's a it's a little.
Speaker 1: Bit, but I think that would be the purpose.
Speaker 2: But those but could you imagine, I'll say this, I
bet you if the New York State Regents, which is
basically the final example, it's the state exam in history,
had you had to write an essay about the queening chair,
I bet there wouldn't be anybody that didn't get a hundred.
Speaker 1: That depends on the teacher.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, it depends on the teacher.
Speaker 1: A teacher like could No, it's.
Speaker 2: New York State Regions. They got the rigid, rigid stuff.
You got to stick to a certain thing. So you'd
have to teach the kids how to write. But the
fact that they would want to write, what kid wouldn't
want to write about?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The big thing is if you're going to be
a writer, you want to write about something you know
and you enjoy.
Speaker 2: Yes, so, but writing about something that's dirty when you're
in high school and getting a grade on it would
be amazing.
Speaker 1: It would be the greatest. Yeah. But here's the thing though,
Like I would be the kid who wouldn't know how
that would work. I would be like like in seventeen
you're like, when do you take the writing test? I know,
fifth grade you take a writing test. I don't know,
or at least you used to. So let's say it's
like either your sophomore or junior year in high school.
I still wouldn't have any clue of the mechanics of
how that would work.
Speaker 2: I would know what we'd have to show you. Maybe
we'd bring in a chair, maybe we'd have wood shop.
So it prompts me to do a conjunction with the
woodshop guys, they make a queening chair.
Speaker 1: Well, did you go to high school before project no?
K and ow?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Probably? Okay, so it was sex education. Yeah right. They
didn't have an accurate they just spell that, know no,
and it may have stood for something I don't know,
but it was sex education. And the reason was Chatauqua
County at the time was seventh teenage pregnancy. That makes sense. Yeah,
we were like the uh, let's put this way, like
where the where Like the Steelers are right now in
the NFL rankings, Okay.
Speaker 2: Right there, right almost at the top.
Speaker 1: Almost at the top. New York State Governor first Governor
Cuomo said, you're gonna take this and you're gonna pay
for it too. So we had sex education classes, right, So,
but they would teach us the basics of how it worked.
We didn't get into codlingis or oral sex, and it
was basically just pregnancy preventing pregnancy. So you'd have to
like have that background, and still I would have no
idea how the mechanics of this would work unless somebody
explained it.
Speaker 2: They didn't take two dollars ago, Dan we go like this?
Speaker 1: Oh they No, they didn't do that. They talked about.
Speaker 2: Std talk about sex with you at all.
Speaker 1: My father later.
Speaker 2: Would later would yeah, well, in high school, okay, so
this is what's great that they're doing project now.
Speaker 1: Project No was in fifth, sixth, seventh, and tenth grades. God,
you guys were really fucking dens. Oh dude, you're not kidding.
But here's the thing. I think a poor county So
was there, fifth, sixth, seventh, tenth grade. Yeah, but one
of those is no longer in existence? Can you guess
which one? I'm thinking? Project no there is not in existence.
They said it proved ineffective. It worked in the cities
like kids were like, oh, drugs can kill you. Where
in the suburbs like you and I were like, oh man,
these drugs sound amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember told you what this is.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a boat of goal. No, that's bad
about red.
Speaker 2: So tell me about hang on. Was there a lot
of poor county? Correct, Oh, Chautauqua County. So the old
wives tale, it's not true.
Speaker 1: Although somebody said they found this, I think they created
an ai was There was a sign in Miami, Florida.
It said best welfare in the country, go to Chautauqua County,
New York Kill Dunkirk, New York, or Jamestown, New York
because there were a lot of welfare people that came
up from Puerto Rico, Cuba, the Dominican Republic and ended
up in Jamestown. Were they working on farms. May have
been because we have a lot of great farms, didn't
want to Yeah, they may have had something to do
with that too, But there were a lot of But
there were a lot of people like that who were
on welfare at the time when you're poor. But so
ye had we were a pretty poor county. But at
the same time, like if you were poor, that was
the place to be, all right.
Speaker 2: So I have said this before and I have been ridiculed,
laughed at, mocked, pointed at, practically spit them.
Speaker 1: You've described my first marriage.
Speaker 2: I I I said that a lot of times when
you're poor and you're bored, and you know it feels good. Yeah,
like you just kind of you figure out what it
is and it's exciting and there's something to it and.
Speaker 1: Somebody likes you. But the problems willing to.
Speaker 2: Do that, right, The problem is you slip one past
the alta and now we've got a problem, and maybe
you're scared and you don't want to say anything, and
you wait too long, and the next thing you know,
somebody's having a baby in.
Speaker 1: The stall in the bathroom. I have no idea, I don't,
but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like, there's all these different things, and it's unfortunate because
it does seem to happen in more poor rural communities.
Don't remember a lot of pregnancy and pine planes surprisingly well.
When there was a few, one maybe one or two.
Speaker 1: If I recall, somebody got pregnant in our school the
exception of our senior year. They usually got like sent
to a special school where they would voluntarily go. They
didn't want to bear the shop I.
Speaker 2: Remember, I should be be very careful about this, But
I went to an evangelical church and they used to
take prayer request And I told you that when missus
Tree would stand up, her last name was Tree, and
she'd pray for Darryl, her husband, and all this stuff
that I used to get giddy as a kid because
it was like you were eavesdropping in an adult conversation
and she just would tell you everything. You know, Darryl's
got lost the job, and he's having a real problem
with this and that and the other thing, and Brad
did this, and someone got.
Speaker 1: Because God's because everyone's got to know the details when
they go to God, because God doesn't know the details.
Speaker 2: I take at one point if I if I recall,
and I could, I'd have to verify this. But I
think that I would find a family member who would
remember more than I would. I think the pastor cut
her off, like she was going on and on and
on and on. He's like, all right, okay, all right,
anybody else. And I mean I used to love when
her hand went up. I used to like I would.
It was almost like you start dozing off in church.
She'd be like, bang, you'd be right up waiting to see.
And she had a daughter who got knocked up by
a kid I went to high.
Speaker 1: School with, and I remember that whole thing. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But every week brought her to church and and
I think for that the I always like that she
did that and there was no judgment there shouldn't be, right,
it happens.
Speaker 1: People need to rally around them, yes, and help her out.
And I think, and I think a lot of churches
do that. I think the whole shame thing, I think
it's more of an old person thing now. I think
now like more days. I'm not saying people celebrate it
or don't condone it. But if what happens, people rally
around those people now, which.
Speaker 2: Are that it didn't it didn't happen because it is
life altering, right, you know, but I.
Speaker 1: Will tell you the Bible warrants against it.
Speaker 2: Yes, So these queening chairs I think are interesting. So
I would think, but you know, if some guy had
a sore on his face, you know what I mean,
all he was was the tongue man. Yeah, he must
have gone home had just either been so disgusted after
his day, Like you couldn't even wash your face, right,
could you back then, I mean did they Well, no,
like my wife told me the royal bucket to stick
my face, and well like when.
Speaker 1: My wife and I were getting married and planning our
our lead, our eloping that we did, we taught. We
got no conversation about why there's flowers at a wedding,
and it's because brides would typically get married in June
because the weather was warm and the water was just
starting to get warm enough where they could go and
bathe in a river, and to cover up any scent,
they would carry flowers because they only bathed maybe twice
a year.
Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, whoever was the tongue slave should be made
a saint because you just hit it. You just cover
up any sense. And we're talking the Middle Ages and
you're stuck under some big gown wives and you're doing it,
and you're doing it.
Speaker 1: And even he said that wasn't enough, that he's like
a toll vanity. I've done it all. That is crazy.
Speaker 2: The nothing will satisfy you know, you bring up the
the project.
Speaker 1: No, I'm amazed.
Speaker 2: I saw a statistic and I was talking to a virologist,
somebody who studies things, and this guy is trying to
create something that I think would actually be very interesting.
And I have never really given this much thought except
that Stephanie id has been in here, and Stephanie said
she could.
Speaker 1: Teach one of those classes.
Speaker 2: Well as a woman who was you know, back on
the market recycling as I call it, she.
Speaker 1: Refurbished, Yes, refurbished, furbish, They'll say we cyclic, refurbished, reload, reload.
Speaker 2: So she said that she wanted any potential partner to
have a blood test STT test.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I didn't.
Speaker 2: Know this, but roughly ten percent of the population has
HIV and doesn't know it, like.
Speaker 1: Exhibits no symptoms.
Speaker 2: Ten percent, I think I think that was the thing.
I think it was around ten percent.
Speaker 1: That'd explain all th bctarvi commercials.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well what is that? An as drugs?
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you've seen this, but like
there's this drug called biktarv, and there's other drugs like
biktarv which are geared towards men with aids. Okay, some
are geared towards people with AIDS, but most of these
are geared towards men because in the commercial they say, uh,
when you talk to your talking about give you all
the warnings and one of them is not testing and
women assigned it women at birth.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So so it's just for somebody the x
Y CROMB most of them, yeah, most of them for men?
Speaker 1: Yeah, gay men. Yes, that's what they're targeting in the commercials. Right,
And it's supposed to like prevent like transmission supposedly, yes,
but like ten percent.
Speaker 2: I maybe I have the number wrong. I really thought
that's why about ten percent.
Speaker 1: I always thought the number was dwindling and going down
because of education.
Speaker 2: It is, but it isn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's why because people got careless.
Speaker 2: Well, no, not careless, because what did we what did
you just say that AD is aimed at it ga
gay men?
Speaker 1: Right? And so we think that what it's a gay disease. Yes.
Speaker 2: So if I am a guy like me now right,
separated in my fifties, I get on one of these
apps and I go to Tinder, and I have a
tender date and I have sex with somebody, and then
even if I don't ever see them again, I could
have something that I have no idea about. And that's
very possible. So a virologists at the u OF is
trying to create what you would buy. I think they
have it patent.
Speaker 1: A homemade AIDS test.
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically you would prick your finger.
Speaker 1: It absorbs your blood.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you send it in or if
it does the testing with the chemicals right there, but
it's a way to kind of you know, you'd have to,
like if you had sex with somebody and you're like,
oh boyfy, I shouldn't have done that one night stand
and wait a day or so and then take the
test and see if you're clean.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well the big well, the big story in
the eighties, right, so you've heard the movie and the
book the band played on. Randy Schultz wrote that book.
Randy Schultz was a writer from San Francisco. He was gay.
And he's at a he's at an AIDS conference or something.
Or he's at a conference. Bill Curtis, well known news man.
I never remember Bill Curtis. But Bill Curtis gets up there,
sounds very familiar. It tell us a joke, and the
joke is he goes, how does a straight man tell
his wife how he got AIDS? Convincing your wife you're
Haitian And the entire audience starts cracking up. And Randy
Schultz is sitting there going, oh my gosh, that's one
very racist thing. It's racist and it's also homophobic, and
Sir Randy Schultz, being a gay man, was like, okay, one,
do I have this problem too? Do I need to
get checked out. Three, we got to get to the
bottom of how this disease started, and they traced it back.
That's how they got it to Gayton Dugas, the flight
attendant from Montreal patient zero. How it all came about,
and a lot of this is chronicl in Freddie Mercury's
book Somebody to Love. But at the end of the
day he actually said, Okay, I'm going to take an
age test now. I want you to hold the results
dock until I'm done with this study and figure out
where this came from, because I don't want to influence
my results. So then after that book came out, it
really became known as a quote gay disease. Then Magic
Johnson happened. And then when Magic Johnson happened, everybody's like, well,
wait a second, it's magic on the down low. And
he came out and said, listen, if it could happen
to me, it could happen to you can happen to anybody.
And then everything changed, like everyone and then easy E
got it and then everybody was like, oh, holy Cole,
you could be heterosexual. Then Arthur ashe said, I have it.
I got it from a blood transfusion. But then over time,
once people started like then that age started going down,
the educated, then the AIDS cocktail. Then all of a sudden,
around two thousand and three, there was an uptick in
AIDS again, And the reason was because I remember doing
the story for school for College Details magazine had a
story that the big joke in New York hospitals among
nurses was, you know, the joke about heterosexual men saying
they got AIDS from their girlfriend and all these guys,
for lack of the down low, yeah, like they could
kind of wink wink, they knew that they were gay.
So it really like was kind of like, oh, you're
really not getting AIDS if you're if you're straight, and
that led to people.
Speaker 2: Being being careless. Yeah, and I think now you have
people that don't even think about a condom, right, and well.
Speaker 1: You're here on the IUD, you're on the pill, well
you're on the whatever.
Speaker 2: Not even that let's say you're a guy in your
Let's say you're a divorced person.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say divorce. That's why I said this
to stupidly a.
Speaker 2: Divorced person and you go on one of the aps
and you hook up with somebody, there is a chance
that you decide, ah, I'm clean, and there's no way
she's getting pregnant. She's probably menopausal or pass men and
so you have sex and then it spreads.
Speaker 1: Where do what do we hear from you? Well, aids,
I'm sorry, herpes is on the rise sixties, Yes, because
they go to the like they like, somebody's divorced or
somebody's like widowed, Like, yeah, you're past pregnancy age. Let's
just go.
Speaker 2: You got it, That's what I'm saying. And so these
apps and things, and I do think maybe you're starting
to see a quiet rise, like I don't think it's
talked about to talk about it well right too, or
if you're not showing symptoms.
Speaker 1: Which you don't for five to ten years exactly.
Speaker 2: So that could be the thing. Look, don't forget during
COVID there were people that were spreading it and never
had oh yeah, never got.
Speaker 1: I know several people who actually had COVID tested positive.
I'm fine. I'm playing racketball right now with myself, like where.
Speaker 2: I'm sweating all over everything. All right, we'll uh, we'll
take a moment. We'll talk a little football stuff, Danty,
because there's one team, no kidding, one team in the
NFL that I believe has made the worst trade of
the twenty twenty four season. I'm the worst trade.
Speaker 1: Did they do it this year? Did they do it
last year? They did it this year? They did do it? Okay,
they did it this year, but it also there was
a trade they had last year as well, not a
trade that I think was more of an a teams
of four letters for five hundred Alex got it exactly.
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watching on our friends match from Match on muted match,
she wrote high and welcome to tractor Talk. As she
starts talking about tractors, Vinnie Gettis writes, twenty eight hundred dollars.
I'm thinking of that attractor price, right, you know?
Speaker 1: I think is he talking tractors? Are you talking at houses?
Speaker 2: Remember we mentioned twenty eight hundred? Yeah, it might be
that match did didn't chime back in with a loop
job and somebody else wrote that's a lot of peanut
butter laughed my ass off. I just can't imagine, like,
how did you become the royal.
Speaker 1: Tongue back in that in the tryouts? Yeah, that's what
you're saying as you posted the town crier and the
Queen is hosting tryouts to be the royal tongue and
quiet within.
Speaker 2: And how about when you got to see her husband.
Speaker 1: Hey, ma hey, hey, I mentionine me, Hey, Beth, there's
this new opportunity that the queen is hiring for. I
gotta go find out what it's about. You find out, honey,
was it about? Yeah? You know what it's gonna get
us A lot of money, might get us some favorite
what's it about?
Speaker 2: Well, gosh, yeah, no thanks. Would your wife ever kiss
you again?
Speaker 1: No, God, nor should she.
Speaker 2: But if you were this like this person, sometimes maybe
you did have a family and your last name represented
what you did, didn't it, Like you know, Smith was
a smith or a blacksmith.
Speaker 1: Or anything like that. What were the Jones?
Speaker 2: I'm Jones And for some I don't know, the Jones
might have been the Persian version of the tongue.
Speaker 1: It could be. Yeah, I've always wondered like a smith jonges? Yeah,
oh yeah, thea was I don't know. Ah, Danny football.
Was that La Montaigne?
Speaker 2: Yes, it was ray La Montange.
Speaker 1: So when you and I were working together, Yeah, in
a place called CMF. Yes, I go upstairs to get
time with Brow. Can you get me some water? Brow?
I gotta got Okay, So I go upstairs in the
middle of a segment, and a couple of salespeople were there.
Good look a girl and a guy who's like, you know,
trying to hit on her. He goes, you know, lately
and listening to some ray La Monge. No he didn't.
He said that he was the Navy guy. Remember the
Navy guy with I, And Yes, I don't think that's
how you say his name. He's kind of like trying
to like not cozy up to it, but trying to
impress his body legge lately. I don't think that's how
you say his name. And I started laughing.
Speaker 2: Lemne was the name of the tongue guy.
Speaker 1: What do you mentioned? It brought me back to you. God,
that is so funny.
Speaker 2: So, uh, I know you have thoughts on the Bills game. Oh,
I have plenty of thoughts, and I think that there's
a lot of things they can learn from. But I'll
tell you this the overall thing that I took away,
and we'll see if you agree or not. Talked about
this a little bit with Greg Connors is a cool,
calm collectiveness that I haven't seen on both sides of
the ball with the Bills in a while. I don't
know that it's a confidence if it's just a whole
team thing. But there was nothing that felt rushed or
forced to me. They didn't, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: At times they played a complete game. They did. It
was it was it, even though even though like the
one thing I'll say, you know, the offensive lines were
playing well and they couldn't run on on Kansas City,
but they still tried to run on Ki.
Speaker 2: You had this Danny, Yeah, bakes left now taken off, gonna.
Speaker 1: Run for he got it and there he goes inside
to turn the five.
Speaker 2: Would you call the play of the year in the NFL?
Speaker 1: I would no. I would call the the hail Mary
in Washington to play.
Speaker 2: They said the same thing, and everybody jumped on my
ship saying, come on.
Speaker 1: Bill Bills fans Bill probably, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: But I'm going play of the year. I'm not saying
it's a bad play. I don't want to look like
a bitter Bills fan. I was grateful that he Josh
Allen scored there. It was a great run.
Speaker 1: Oh you should have hurt me in my house.
Speaker 2: I did my wife too.
Speaker 1: It was he was like, I've heard like you weren't
just exciting when we got married. There's the reason why. Yeah. No,
it's all downhill from here at But with that play,
I mean, and NAT's called it immediately, But then did
you hear Dan O Orlowski break the play down? Why
it wasn't supposed to work and how Alan defied all logic? No,
Spagnolo defensive Steve Spagnola's the defensive coordinator of the Kansas City
And he fooled and he fooled. He fooled Alan into
or they think he fooled Alan into believing it was
zone coverage when it actually went to man coverage or
vice versa. Alan, if you remember, fake goes to his
left the throw to Ty Johnson. He would have had
a first down, but he pulled it back because he
saw something out of the corner of his eye. I
think he thought maybe perhaps a pick six was coming
with the corner. We don't know, So what is he do,
He looks around, he sees a lane and he takes off,
and they say, only Josh Allen could have made this play.
He got the first down and then he kept going
for the end zone. So now all these Bills fans
who were there want to make this like the greatest
moment in Bill's history. It was fantastic, it was memorable.
It's something I hopefully never forget. But here's the thing.
If they don't go to the super Bowl and win it,
you're gonna forget about that play. It'll be another also
ran play by Josh Allen, And you need if that
play exercise to the Tams because you remember it was
fourth and two, they were up, and if they kick
a field goal, Kansas City's got to go back down
the field to score a touchdown. But what is Kansas
City good at? Oh scoring touchdowns against the Bills. So
for McDermott to they have the balls to go for it, which,
by the way, he's been going for it more lately.
I wasn't happy that he didn't go forward in the
first half of the fourth and eight. I don't care
if it was eight yards. You're at the other team's
forty two. If you stall out, they get the ball
at the forty two, so what. But I was happy
you went for it. I was happy Allen had the
guts to go make that play on his own, because
that's what you have. But he is in fact, they're
running a game against Kansas City because they couln't run
to save their lives at all. But it was a
complete game that they played, and they went toe to
toe with KC and they won, and they also ex
exposed a lot of k c's issues that they've had
throughout the season. Jeff Chidia from NFL Network as a
friend of mine, he was texting me during the game
and because he's a Kansas City guy, he's from Kansas City.
He wrote there, he's covered the Chiefs and he said,
you know your boy Allen, he's talking aout. Alan won
that game and everything else. But he goes, I've been
telling people the Chiefs have a lot of holes. They
finally got exposed today. They have a heck of a defense.
But you know, you could only like patch it together
for so long. Right with this team, Bill's kind of
exposed a little. What does a lot of injuries? No?
Speaker 2: But does mahomes have eleven interceptions. Yeah, eleven, but he's
got to do it all himself. No, I realize that,
but that's still Look, we had Josh doing it all himself,
and I think.
Speaker 1: Eleven interceptions in eleven games, that's one. You know, one
a game. That's one a game, right, So I mean, yeah, but.
Speaker 2: If you go back to twenty nineteen, I think Mahomes
had one interception, Yeah, that entire season.
Speaker 1: So it's because I'm not concerned about interceptions if you're
throwing touchdowns, if you're they were undefeated, and he had
eleven interceptions, so he was covering up a lot of ills.
I mean, I know they had a piece together. They
had to go and sign d Hop, they had to
go bring back Kareem Hunt.
Speaker 2: But the things that I like is that, to me,
you go, Okay, it's great that they beat him in
the regular season, not the first time that that's happened.
So what we want to see is the playoffs. But
when I saw that, I thought was significantly different. Was
that cool calm collected moving forward as a team, and
I thought, boy, they're only gonna get better and they're
gonna get guys back.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Bills think about this if if they
get Mulano back. And I said this before the season.
You remember this, and people are like, shut up Dan,
I said say that every time you shut up Dan.
But on Twitter, I was getting killed for it. I said, listen,
last year we lost Milano midseason, he was gone. I
go if he's got a chance to come back this year,
he's very he is injury prone. You can't deny that. Yes, Okay,
like Trey White, two injuries, his career was pretty much over,
like he's in Baltimore, Like he couldn't last with the Rams.
This guy was a lockdown corner. When they go, they
go fast. With Mulano, He's been hurt a lot. But
now if you believe he could come back, wouldn't you
rather let him sit the bench? Yes, until the playoff,
until the playoffs? Yeah, so now you get it back. Yeah,
and he could be full speed, the five speed. Who
cares you get him back?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Gets hurt again? Play this time without him? Yeah he is.
So that is like making a late season trade that
nobody else can make. So you're getting him back. You're
gonna get these guys back. Guys are gonna bearrested, You're
gonna get Coleman back, which is fantastic. You're gonna get
another week of healing for Amari Cooper. So yeah, things
are coming together for this team right now.
Speaker 2: They have a bye this week, but.
Speaker 1: They have to put here's the thing. They have to
win out. Yes they do. They have to win out.
And by the way they they off teams, they have
the best schedule. There nine and there nine and the
Bills are nine and two. Who are the two? Baltimore
and Baltimore and Texas the Texans. Oh, I forgot. They
lost the textas Memember like the game where nobody could
the big controversy at the end where and I said,
wait a second, that's there was an unprecedented situation, like
I'm one of his biggest attractors, but I can't kill
him for that situation.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully he is in front of ours. Greg Connors
did exercise demons. Now, when we talk about trades, I
think the worst trade this season, and I was wondering
what it was going to be is DeVante Adams to
the Jets. I really do. I think they went out
and got it.
Speaker 1: I mean, now you have to give it the backdrop though,
in the NFL, trades usually aren't made that much. Usually
it's in the off season set draft time.
Speaker 2: It was trying to get him in there before the
trade deadline and pick up the season. And I gotta
tell you, I gotta think Aaron Rodgers is the most
expensive four snap quarterback in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 1: Right, and when he went down, They've done the stats,
They've done the stats. He's worse than Zach Wilson, which
you have to go out of your way to be
worse than that guy. See, he's made some worse than
Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's made some great passes along the way.
Speaker 1: He almost beat Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Deanna Russini is Diana Diana, Yeah, the athletic I think
she's saying.
Speaker 1: Covered the Jets pretty close.
Speaker 2: Woody Johnson wanted Aaron Rodgers benched in September, So why
would you want He's.
Speaker 1: He's insane, he want like so my friends at hashtag
sports tweeted this out today and I'll ever forget this.
Back when Belichick refused the Jets job, so I resign
as HC of the nyj When they were calling a
press conference in or douce him, he decided he was
resigning that day Parcels wanted him to be the head coach,
and eventually they worked out a deal with New England
because he went. He didn't want to be there, so
they hired al Grow, who was a defensive assistant. Al Grow,
after one year with the Jets, was like, screw this,
I'm going to college. I'm going to Virginia. Not even
a good college, Virginia, right, and he coached their twelve years.
That's how bad things have been in New York since,
since Woody Johnson took over from Leon hess That's how
bad things were. And they've always been that bad. And
now we know that Woody medals. I mean, come on,
he gave up Aaron Rodgers. Say what you want about him.
I think he's a jackwagon. But he gave up thirty
five million dollars and took a year off his contract
with the Wink wink that I get to do whatever
I want, guys, right now, I'm the GM, right, And
what happened would he suggests that they replace him with
Tyrone freaking tailor. Been there, Done that? Seeing that show? Yeah,
and Joe Douglas Robert Salah gets fired a week later.
What he doesn't consult anybody would he emasculates his general
manager Joe Douglas at the behest of Aaron Rodgers, and
all of a sudden suggests, you know what, screw it,
Joe Douglas, You're out too. And by the way, Joe
Douglas can draft. Now, as far as free agency go,
I think Aaron Rodgers was picking the players. But as
far as like drafted goes, like, whoever grabs Joe Douglas
is gonna have a smart guy in the in the
room because he's a sharp dude. But man, the Jets
are a freaking mess and any head coach who wants
to go there is gonna have to deal with that
nut job Rex. Ryan says he wants the job. Of
course Rex wants the job because Rex wants relevance.
Speaker 2: Well, I love Rex. I love Rex on ESPN, I
love him on.
Speaker 1: I am shocked that Josh's favorite player because usually when
a guy leaves a franchise and they do like but man,
he is pro, he is pro Alex.
Speaker 2: He's very authentic. Oh, he is himself.
Speaker 1: The knock on Rex was that Rex was all show
and no. What made Rex famous was the fact that
Rex toes he was he was the royal tongue. So
Rex was the runner up for the Ravens job when
Brian Billick was fired. He lost the doubt. He lost
out to John Harbaugh, who's still there. Won a Super Bowl,
and Harball kept Rex on. To his credit, usually you
won't keep a rival who went for the job. He
kept Rex on and that defense did really, really well.
So you know he was brash. Woody Johnson hires this guy.
I'm not here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. That's what
you want to hear the head coach. Here's what he had.
He had two lockdown corners. He had Darrell Reeves and
he had but he had a rookie car and he
had hit and he had good there. He had Antonio Kramarni.
So despite the fact that Mark Sanchez was his quarterback
and he wasn't very good at all. Don't even know
why he's an NFL analyst, to be honestly, because he
doesn't qualify at the end of the day. Because he
had two lockdown corners. He can run whatever defense he wanted,
and he was successful because he had those lockdown corners.
But once once he lost Levas, once he lost Revas
and Crow Marty got old that was it they had
to go to He was never the same and in
Buffalo he couldn't run that. They went from the number
two ranked defense to nineteen under Rex. But if he
watched the job, man, hey, by all means hire Rex Ryan,
please me, please would he hire Rex Riot? I would
love to see.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers so far the season twenty four hundred yards,
seventeen touchdowns, seventeen interceptions, but not terrible. I mean even
seventeen interceptions over.
Speaker 1: Elest Jamous Winston numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're not terrible. They're not great. They're
not Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: They're not Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: But he's making throws. I Mean. The thing is, I
will say this, I admire that the Jets went all
in and tried something. I mean, they went all in, Wait,
Daron Rodgers. They tried it fell apart. I mean, who
knew that four snaps in against the Buffalo Bills in
the first game on a Monday night in the twenty
twenty three season, that Aaron Rodgers is going to go
down and that's it for the season.
Speaker 1: Well, there was a I don't believe this, but there
was a there was speculation that he actually heard it
in camp, and he rolled out there just to like,
you know, have his moment with the flag, go out
there for three plays and all of a sudden, Oh,
I can't do it. Oh now I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: I don't either, because it looked like he went down.
He was grabbing that thing, and it looked like it
rolled up, and so I look, I have no idea,
but I don't think that was certainly not an expected thing.
Speaker 1: And I controlled the dice, he'd roll the dice. They
roll the dice, and a guy who's proven. Yes, But
if you're gonna get credit to the Jets, you also
have to give credit to green Bay for saying, you know,
what the hell with this guy?
Speaker 2: Well, but they knew what they had with love, they
believed in what they did with love.
Speaker 1: Well, they had they did have a choice. They had to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't think love was going to be
anything it was. I was surprised when they drafted.
Speaker 1: So here's so, here's the situation. Uh. Brian Gudokutz is
the general manager in green Bay. Green Bay is not
owned by a team. They're owned by a conglomerate of
you know, shareholders and whatnot. By the city of Green Bay,
and Mark Murphy's a Harvard Gratt he played in the NFL.
He wants smart people. He brings in Brian Gudokutzt and
go to Consfert like he started having issues with Rogers immediately,
so they bring in Matt Laflour to be the head coach,
and Lafleur and Rogers they kind of got along better
than but not really. So these guys are talking to like,
I can't have the quarterback running the franchise and in
Green Bay that's not gonna fly. Didn't fly with Farv
They told him to go jump too. So they're like, okay,
we need to find a guy so that they trade
up for. They trade back into the first round for
Jordan Love, who went to Utah Stay, which is not
a football factory really, but he looked like Josh Allen
and so they're like, maybe we could coach this guy up.
Rodgers is a couple of years left in his career.
We can train him in our image and then say
goodbye to Rogers. And it took him about four years,
but he had the luxury of learning under Rogers to
do it right. And they shipped Rogers because he was
a Baylor. He wasn't a good leader. He always stirred
up stuff. Everything was about him and they were sick
of it. So but you can't, like, you can't let
go a one branch until you have another one. And
they rolled the dice out Jordan Love because everybody in
that organization is getting taught to Jordan Love doesn't like
come into his own in December of last year. Huh.
So now to bring a full circle, there we go.
Packers get the Niners this week injured Niners teams, and
you want to watch that game because who the Niners
play the following week Monday Night Football.
Speaker 2: From Greg Conners the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: So that'll be interesting. That'll be interesting. But yeah, Rogers
is a pain in the neck. But Woody Johnson's always
been the poison in night.
Speaker 2: It's just amazing to me and I do, but I
do say, I go boy, if you're gonna go, go bigger,
you know, and we say, no, bigger, go home, And
they went big. You have to win big, and man,
it did not pay off at all. No, No, let me.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you get an old aging star, I know
you shouldn't be surprised by the results. We saw the like,
I don't know some guy who was fighting on Friday
night on Netflix when it wasn't buffer it, I did
say the only guy's time, the only guy who's been
able to especially by Christmas.
Speaker 2: Because man, those games and they're big game.
Speaker 1: Oh they are.
Speaker 2: That Pittsburgh game is big in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you, I will tell you, man,
the only guys but able to defy time is Top Brady.
That's it. I have a TV By the way, if
you want to get the TV twelve book, it's on
sale for five bucks at Olie's. I'm not joking. This
was a forty dollars book at one point time. Of
course I bought it. Of course you did. Stretched out
my my hamsterricks with evaporated milk.
Speaker 2: We'll take We'll take a moment and four inappropriate doctor.
Speaker 1: Oh wait to hear this story. Matter of fact, I
want to.
Speaker 2: I wish we could do small town like the local news.
This should win an Emmy. This story should win an Emmy.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 2: They did a great piece of matter of fact, I've
never seen a local news story that goes four minutes
and fifty eight.
Speaker 1: Seconds to kill a lot of time.
Speaker 2: Oh, but this is a great story.
Speaker 1: Do you remember Tracy Bush from Channel thirteen. Yes, so
she came to speak to my class of fisher while
she was still a Channel thirteen under my Catalana and
she goes, I got my start in Elmira, our top
story of the day. Never made it. I could never
get it in. So stuff would happen. Yeah, they'd have
to get it on the next day. All right, we'll
take a moment.
Speaker 2: Oh, I want to tell you about Iron Smoke Distillery. Oh,
right here in Fairport, New York. Baby, you get over
there first of all, with the holidays coming, why not
go get some Iron Smoke whiskey. It's locally sourced. It's
a delicious, award winning whiskey. You get a couple of bottles,
people show up during the holidays.
Speaker 1: You got it to go.
Speaker 2: I would even suggest some of the Rattlesnake rosies line.
I love the peanut butter chocolate pie.
Speaker 1: Had that as like an air So they have a
peanut butter chocolate pie.
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, yes, so I had that as an after
dinner drink last year.
Speaker 1: You have your jacket on, your smoking jacket in your.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, with the patches on my elbow.
Speaker 1: I'd like to have a little chocolate peanut butter pie
whiskey with my after my dinner.
Speaker 2: Then let's see what day is today?
Speaker 1: Today? The show will air on Thursday the twenty second, No,
twenty first. Today is what day? Wednesday? Yesterday? Wednesday day? Okay,
I don't know. Wich day we'll do?
Speaker 2: I don't okay, Thursday the twenty first before two K
will be playing tonight, Yes, tonight, tonight before two K,
And they're sticking around for a while. And then you
got the Acoustic Sunset Sessions on Friday the twenty second.
Speaker 1: That's always a great thing after work. Yeah, it's read.
You want to go unwine man, go watch the Acoustic
Sunset sessions.
Speaker 2: Reed Burton's going to be doing cut there. And then
Friday night, a whole lot of fun with Jumbo Shrimp.
Speaker 1: They are trip man. You and I got to meet Jumbo. Yes,
good guy, Yes, good guy. A lot of fun there.
They don't take themselves too seriously. It's just two dudes, dudes,
and that place will be packed, so get there early.
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gotta think this is one of your songs in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yeah, Offspring like We're Weird because they raw.
I liked it.
Speaker 4: I liked that.
Speaker 1: Offspring and Green Day came out about the same time.
Yeah and Offspring were signed to a record label called Epitaph,
which was an independent label. It was rare in the
nineties or any time for an independent label band to
make it huge, and they did, and they stuck with them.
They didn't. They weren't like Epic or Warner Brothers or Geffen.
They were independent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't remember many other songs from them
other than.
Speaker 1: This, Oh you gotta keep him separated, that's right. That
was that one song about Heaven so far away, about
losing like loved one. They had that song. They had
a lot of great songs. Actually make it. Pick their
drummer out for not getting a COVID shot. Oh that's right.
But guys, you've made it thirty years and now that's good.
That's that's where we're gonna draw the line. I don't Yeah,
I'm done with you people.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it was also something else and they
just decided to blame it could be like you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1: Look, been in bands, you've been a bash. I'm not
in bands anymore for a reason. But being married to
four the dude, Okay you seriously, Yes, I've heard that.
Speaker 2: I've heard that from people who are in in all
bands and at any level, any level.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'll say this about Offspring. So have
you ever seen the Woodstock documentary Woodstock ninety nine? Yeah?
I was there. Oh yeah, you were there. Okay, So
it was a mess and a lot of stuff happened,
as you know. But you know how there's all these
bands like Rage Against the Machine who talk about, you know,
fighting the man, always being good to people, and and
the Chili Peppers who I love dearly, and some other
bands Dave Matthews right, do the right thing, brother. None
of them would talk on this documentary about all the
carnage that ensued, well, because.
Speaker 2: I don't think they were fully aware because I was
up close to the stage. No, No, I wasn't fully aware.
Speaker 1: So that they weren't fully aware at the time. They weren't.
They weren't, but they never went back and said, yeah
that was They didn't acknowledge it. No, the Offspring did.
They talked about it. Yeah, they were, hey, look man,
we this was bad. Man. They acknowledge it. The other
bands were like, now I'm not participating.
Speaker 2: I remember the Chili Peppers playing and I I can
see it. They started lighting fires and I had my brother,
So let's see what you were in nineteen ninety nine.
In nineteen ninety nine, I was twenty eight twenty. I
was turned twenty eight, twenty seven, twenty eight years old,
so uh, my brother would have been about twenty nineteen
or twenty. And I grabbed them and I go, let's
get out of here. Just there was the vibe was changing.
I remember that distinctly, Like I and they were lighting
fire as they're playing Fire by Jimmy Hendrix, and I'm like,
there's something here. It was almost too simpatico between the
music and whatever. And then they started flipping uh porta
potties and shit started going downhills and I'm like, I.
Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we went back, but we were staying at
a hotel in Rome. Yeah so or no, maybe we
were at the turning Stone. We might have been a
turning stone.
Speaker 1: Cause it was at Griffiths Air Force Base, right right right, Yeah,
but I mean, yeah it was. I ran it. So
that night, that Sunday night, there was a pay per
view in Buffalo WW fully loaded, and my brother and
I went to the pay per view. On the way home,
we stopped at the Angola rest stop to get back home,
ran into several rustlers, also ran into some people who
were at Woodstock, Like, yeah, we got out. Yeah. Instead,
I'm saying it was like we left about six hours ago.
We just brought our way back to Erie, PA. We
got out. It was getting insane. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have to talk to Kevin, my brother about he
must have been.
Speaker 1: What eighteen nineteen, probably I was nineteen, Yeah, he was
twenty eighteen and nineteen yeah at the time.
Speaker 2: Inappropriate doctors, It's something I don't think about a lot,
only because I would just think that doctors, there's an
ethical board, you want to keep your license, you make
a decent living, and you've seen one body, you've.
Speaker 1: Seen them all. Maybe I'm not saying, but third nipple
really well, according to it, there's Jackie come in and
see this.
Speaker 2: According to a twenty sixteen USA Today investigation, approximately thirty
one hundred doctors were disciplined for sexual misconduct during a
ten year period. It's over ten years, but thirty one
hundred doctors. Surprise me, sexual misconduct.
Speaker 1: How many doctors are there in this country?
Speaker 2: So that averages out to three hundred and ten doctors. Well,
I got a year. Yeah, I mean there's probably three hundred.
There's definitely three hundred and ten doctors here, and I'm
not yeah, now I don't. These aren't private practice only.
They could be surgeons, anybody with a medical that's a
medical doctor.
Speaker 1: Experts believe this number likely.
Speaker 2: Under represents the actual instances, as many cases go under
or unreported excuse me, or are handled privately through confidential settlements,
which we all are familiar with. The Federation of State
Medical Boards reports that sexual misconduct is one of the
most serious types of professional misconduct, though the precise annual
number can vary. Some medical boards, excuse me, handle these
cases different and reporting mechanisms are not standard across all states.
With that, I bring you this story from Arkansas.
Speaker 3: About a Northeast Arkansas physician who had his license suspended.
The suspension of doctor David Defina stemmed from a complaint me.
Speaker 1: See if I can.
Speaker 2: I want to put the pause in there too, because
this story I'm telling you, when you hear this story,
it sounds unbelievable, except that they have video and they're
rolling the video with it.
Speaker 3: Blurred out about a Northeast Arkansas physician who had his
license suspended. The suspension of doctor David Defina stemmed from
a complaint sent into the state Medical Board in July
related to a leged inappropriate sexual contact in one of
his medical.
Speaker 2: I just have to tell you, like this is small
town news. You know when you go into certain stores
and they lay out the tie with the shirt, so
you got a red shirt with a black tie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have to think about it.
Speaker 2: Things I would never wear. But yeah, yeah, this kid's
wearing Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I mean I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with the redcher, but the red shirt, Tay Combo.
You can always tell who's wearing it who's not right.
And that's that's how this this TV station.
Speaker 1: We're sending a freedom them inform.
Speaker 2: Oh and you can see this guy reading off the
tell call me up a Dan Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Try to get a job in Erie, PA doing sports.
I go, why, I gotta tell you because Chautagoa County
you get Eerie, you get Buffalo, and you get Canada
Golder News. Because I'll tell you what. These airy kids
they don't even have closing match. Yeah, because they don't
pay man like over, they don't fit. They look like
they're in a Wheaties commercial.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like your dad's yeah, my child inside, and they
have the big clothes on.
Speaker 1: File.
Speaker 3: According to the investigator's report, definite denine all of the
claims listed in the complaint. Macy Davis joins US now
breaking down what we learned all right here comes.
Speaker 5: From the board received them on July seventeenth. It included
multiple video files and We do want to warn you
the video is graphic. We have censored it due to
the explicit content. Anyone who might be sensitive to this
content may want to change the channel.
Speaker 2: Now if they say that on the news, are you
changing the channel?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: They got you a lot of train wreck.
Speaker 1: This is you're holding your heads over your eyes. But yeah,
you're walking split open like you're like watching.
Speaker 2: If you're a kid and you hear that from the
kitchen and you're in there, just kind of get on
that in the fridge, you feel like.
Speaker 5: According to board documents, this video was taken in twenty nineteen.
Diffina Family Practice im Blible. In it, doctor David Diffine
can be seen walking around naked, including in the hallway
between patient rooms, walking.
Speaker 2: Around naked and the dude completely naked. They just have
stuff flirt out he's walking around.
Speaker 5: Another video clip sent in shows him in the receptionist
area walking around three women and performing a sex act
directly in front of one of the women.
Speaker 6: Okay, so there's video. Are they out and he's got
to know it's his Huh. They're not an conscious they're like,
oh they're working. Okaya, Oh my, don't you spell that.
Speaker 2: On my keyboard. Oh my gosh, God damn it. Why
is the k K keeping Yeah, this guy is walking
around naked.
Speaker 5: Yeah listen the clip ends with him ejaculating on her
according and they.
Speaker 1: Show this he's poured out. But yeah, what do you
call it? There is theocrats. I can't believe.
Speaker 2: Like this dude and you it's your family practice is
to Stephanie or whatever his name is.
Speaker 1: Commercial doctors usually don't have commercials unless they specialize. Tennis
have commercials. The chiropractice have commercials sometimes like skin doctors
have commercials, but usually family practice not they don't usually
do it.
Speaker 2: No, but just so, this guy just released all over
a woman and it's his cameras. It's his cameras. I
would assume you know they're there. They're all from inside.
Speaker 1: It's security.
Speaker 5: Count to the documents we received, not only did the
woman work in Dffinet's office as a lab tech for
another company, she was one of his patients.
Speaker 2: Oh, she's like the hairclub for men guy. Not only
am I the owner, but according.
Speaker 5: To the person who sent the board the videos, this
all happened during business hours. They also claimed Diffine used
his quote position of power sexual grooming salary increases to
groom employees and patients into repulsive acts.
Speaker 2: Into repulsive acts. What else could you do? I'm sorry.
It's like, if somebody sneezes on you, are you not
gross out?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I would be freaked out if somebody just especially in
the last five Yes, But if somebody shot all of
a sudden like sneezed out of their privates.
Speaker 5: At least one person agrees. Doctor Bradley Diner with the
Arkansas Medical Foundation wrote, quote, the pervasive behavior leads to
concerns about a sexual compulsive disorder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, disorderns of a disorder, a disorder, a disorder, a disorder.
Speaker 1: Is that what we're calling it? A sexual disorder? It's
like God Brooks, Yeah, got to you know, my wife.
But I'm going undergoing therapy before because I have sexual problem.
I'm sexy, I'm famous, and people like me and I
just want to have sex.
Speaker 5: Filia, which may in fact cross boundaries with his delivery
called medical care. An investigator with the Arkansas Department of
How interview doctor Diffine in September. According to the report
from that interview, doctor Defina was informed there were video
clips of his actions. Doctor Define says just clow this out.
I don't know anything about that at all. I'd have
to see those things to have any idea what you're talking.
Speaker 1: About on It's like the sidbad joke about club is
discovering America. Hey, I just got your car, discovered your stereo.
Speaker 5: That end quote. K E News attempted to call Diffina
at his various offices.
Speaker 2: Now this is where it gets good. This is where
this reporter, this reporter deserves a small town.
Speaker 5: For a comment. We also called his personal phone number
and left a voicemail. We received no response, so we
went to his home to see if he would answer
our questions.
Speaker 1: Now here she is walking up definitely.
Speaker 4: I'm going to ring one more time.
Speaker 1: I'm going to ring it one more time.
Speaker 2: Ding dong. You think he's coming down?
Speaker 5: H I also reached out to his cellfu next after
we stopped by, but we did not get a response back.
This isn't the first time Diffina has been investigated by
the Medical Board. Earlier this year, someone complained about what
Dffina calls his naturist activities.
Speaker 2: In nature is sector. Now wait, now, listen to what
this guy says he's a naturist.
Speaker 5: In a January complaint. The board was informed the Diffina
was posting nude photos of himself on his social media accounts.
Speaker 2: Who would tug depressor as a grown man, and he
does have dad bod and he's posting these naked.
Speaker 1: Of course, we knew a guy who was a nudist.
Yeah he had dad bod too, Remember him who was
the engineer? An engineer? Oh, yes, that's right, Yeah he was.
But he was like out about it, like he was like,
I only dress some work.
Speaker 2: Where can I sit at your home?
Speaker 1: That will not get something? You remedied a problem for us,
and Tommy goes row. Can I get you like a
drink or something like a bottle of whately don't drink?
Maybe some lemonade?
Speaker 5: Included screenshots from Dffine's Instagram account naked Doctor Dave, Doctor Dave.
Speaker 1: So this dude's always a part of a person with
that type of quote compulsion. There's always like a little tell,
a little giveaway, you think, let let everybody know who
you are and what you're doing. Like Bill Cosby, Right,
we heard about all that stuff. What was cosby profession
on the Cosby Show? What was doctor Hustable's Uxtable's job?
He was a right. In other words, yeah, he was
letting you know, Yeah, I'm a perv. No I don't.
There was another episode of Wait wait, there was another
episode of Cosbery remember that. I think it was season
sixty seven, where he talked about his special barbecue sauce
getting everybody in the mood. That's right, well he did.
It was called content.
Speaker 2: He used to do a bit about Spanish fly, and
he did it a lot.
Speaker 1: He did it all. Oh, there you go, a bit
about Spanish fly, so you can't really.
Speaker 5: Skiffin said he is a naturist and his accounts were
well known to the naturist community. He cited the practice
as promoting acceptance in body positivity.
Speaker 2: Body positives is that the lbgbq x y Z, it's
on the medical pas snakes and.
Speaker 5: First quote, we do not shame, sexualize, fear, or negatively
stigmatize the naked body. He added that there was quote
no crossover whatsoever with my professionalism while practicing medicine and
my naturalist activities end quote. During its June meeting, the
board chose not to take any action and decided to
save the documentation as information only and about his motial stuff.
Stiff and a has also investigated.
Speaker 2: No, the newest stuff like where he's putting himself naked
on social media. They didn't know about this all this shit,
so they okay, so this is new. Now we're going
back and they're going, hey, you guys knew about this,
and they're going, well, it really wasn't a lot we
could do because there was no complaints at the time,
there was or there was.
Speaker 1: And as we've learned, if we haven't figured it out
already the last ten fifteen years, with situations like this,
you don't get to be in a position like this
without a lot of help. Yeah, and that goes back
to the incentives that he offered these ways. So as
disgusting as he was as a doctor, yeah, trusting people's
lives in his hands, doctor, these people who worked with
him were just as discussed.
Speaker 2: So somebody came in and goes, I need this jab,
you don't what if somebody came in and said, this
guy is the greatest doctor ever.
Speaker 1: He saved my mother, he saved my wife. He was fantastical. Well, well
that was the thing about House House Special Potion. He
was an amazing doctor, but he was allowed of these
liberties because he was so smart that he could dress
like an average dude and be a jerk to people
in the office because he was so smart, you know,
and so much so that there was an episod where
he crashed his car into his boss's house, went to
jail for it, and they were able to get him
out of jail because he saved lives.
Speaker 5: In the past. For allegations surrounding illegally distributing pain medications,
his Arkansas medical license was temporarily suspended in twenty seventeen
while the Board investigated those claims of over prescribing. The
board sent in Defina a letter saying they found no
evidence of a violation of the Arkansas Medical Practices Act
and closed the investigation and.
Speaker 1: The Arkansas Medical Practices Act. What could that be? Is
it written at crayola? Is it? Is it spelled correct?
I found that in the bill in that teen ninety
one before I became a president of Urriy.
Speaker 5: In twenty eleven, Dafina entered into a deferred prosecution agreement
after he was investigated by the Medical Board and criminally
charged for allegedly illegally distributing pain medications. Criminal charges were
dropped and Dffina agreed not to practice medicine in Missouri
for three years WOW. In twenty thirteen, the Missouri State
Board of Registration for the Healing Arts closed the matter
before the Medical Board and took no action. On October fourteenth,
the Arkansas State Medical Board suspended Daffina's license related to
the video submitted in July. His hearing is set for
December sixth.
Speaker 1: We will be there. I took from July. You have
on vacation, you're on or I am booked.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, buddy, you gotta see this deaf in a video. Man,
we gotta get this around. Every when is Joe back
from vacation, He's gonna fuck and lose his mind. Wait, yeah,
it's crazy like we make light. But I can't imagine that.
You know, you go to work. Let me just ask
your wife or what if take that away? What if
that's your sister, your daughter, you know what I'm saying,
and you find out this.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how people could work for somebody like this,
or how patience may continue to tamb checked into something
like this. Well I don't I just don't get it.
I don't get it. It makes That's why I asked
you if they were unconscious, like I can know, Like
you've heard stories about the creepy dentists who like, during
a roof canal knocks the woman out and then yeah,
and then plays patty cake with her for a while,
like she's one of those sex dolls. I mean, like,
but the fact that people actually played along, well, yeah,
I know what this cancer fixed. I don't.
Speaker 2: No, you wonder if that was if he was dating
that woman, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there doesn't make it right. If he was
doing it all the time, there would have to be
hours and hours and hours of footage. Yeah, that they
had to get. Oh, they got it.
Speaker 2: You got to see that he's walking around in between
just looking.
Speaker 1: Thirteen episodes, season season four on Netflix, and I go, doctor.
Speaker 2: Dirty, something that is something?
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take Oh my gosh, that's terrible. It's terrible.
But does that not describe all small town doctors.
Speaker 2: Saying well or three one five, be careful out there, Randy.
I will will take a moment when we come back.
Speaker 1: I trust one man with my prostate. Is something.
Speaker 2: A school bus accident today? Yeah, this is one. I
don't know how you say.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for this, but.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that, and Danny has some thoughts on
the fight, and I think you and I may be
sort of simpotica in our thoughts.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I I didn't know what I was watching.
Speaker 2: I purposely didn't read anything about the Tyson Uh fight.
Speaker 1: My I didn't read much in terms of the next
day o wise, opinion wise. I did read about it.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see what the exact counts of punch
is thrown and all this stuff. And I'll leave it
with this as we take a moment. I did say
that Jake Paul only landed twenty eight percent of his punches.
The average fighter lands between thirty and thirty five, so
he's not that far off the mark.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a little low.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like yeah, and then an elite fighter only
hits forty percent. But it's a moving target. But I
just felt like something was off.
Speaker 1: It was nostalgia versus novelty. We'll get to it right
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Speaker 1: And chess fine.
Speaker 2: God, I've heard people say this is becoming the Sweet
Caroline of its day.
Speaker 1: It is, which is weird, but it's weird. It's been
around since two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: Yes, I had I used to kill his Hot Sauce
record when we worked together. I had a not even
an iPod.
Speaker 1: It was some other like yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't
it soon. No, it's like a Sansa. I had Santsa
too because we were too poor to goot iPods.
Speaker 2: And I was listen while I mode my lawn and
I had the Killers on there. Yeah, and now this
song is ever. They're showing the guys in the sidelines
of the Bills game singing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so they did this at Alabama and Michigan
for years before this. This just caught out in Buffaloes
and they're acting like, yeah, we invented it, Bills, Matthew,
we invented it. We then everything day.
Speaker 2: Why do you gotta get all sarcastic like that?
Speaker 1: Because like I did it, they knew. I guarantee this
became a thing because like in college for years when
back when Josh Allen went to college and all these
other guys went to college, they would play this song
in the third quarter more games right everywhere. So they
would sing it at a wedding because somebody requested it.
So the video of Josh Allen at somebody's wedding, I
forgot who was in the offensive lineman singing mister Bright's side.
So now because whatever Josh Allen does, Bill's Mafia has
to do, so they would play it building which is great. Yes,
here's the thing. The song is about watching your wife
get by somebody else.
Speaker 2: I know why. It's a weird thing to me as
to why that song has taken it.
Speaker 1: It just has to be the and the guy who's
singing the songs of Mormon. Yeah, you know who's in
the uh Roberts. Eric Roberts is in the video. Yeah,
I work.
Speaker 2: I had a great interview with him. I really like him.
I had agreed and he he used to live by
my mom.
Speaker 1: So Mickey Rourke when Mickey Rourke won that uh yes,
they won the Golden Globes yes, for the for the wrestler. Yeah,
and he started swearing and talking all this stuff. He
talked about Eric Roberts and how Hollywood hasn't given Eric
Roberts a chance. How Eric Roberts is a great actor.
Speaker 2: He is a great actor. He's been in everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like he's Eric robertson shoot, shut up, just
wrap it up. I think, and we think that's why
he didn't get an oscar because he of his performance
at the at the Golden Globe.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I don't know. Yeah it could be. I
guess because we could not let him go.
Speaker 1: Is the movie they did because he jolly, it's my finger.
I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something I'm forgetting. I watched it, which he and
Eric Roberts in there and Eric Roberts places kind of
a stooge and dumb guy in there and stuff. But
real quick, speaking of dumb, and this sounds dumb to me.
A fifteen year old kid was hospitalized after he was
hit by a school bus Tuesday afternoon, which sounds incredible.
According to Rochester Police, the kid was in the crosswalk
won the seventy seventy year old bus driver attempted to
make a left turn and accidentally hit him.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Hospital treated described as minor injuries. And I go, hmmm,
how do you say I'm sorry for that? Like, if
I'm the bus driver, did they It clearly could have
been the kid's fault. It could have been the kid's fault.
Speaker 1: You could have. But here's how the bus driver misses it. Hey,
shut up. Yes, he's looking in the big review mirr
where you can see all the kids, doink? I could
I could see that. Now here's the thing. If I'm
this kid, basket, If I'm this kid though, if I'm
this kid in today's society where we have victimization for everything, Yeah,
I'm traumatized by school. I'm traumatized by the schools.
Speaker 2: Anytime I see a school bus, Yeah, it triggers me.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, right right. I need to cope. I
need to cope. I need to be homeschooled. I need
to I need a day off. I would milk the
crap out of it. Yeah, Oh, I have damage from
the from the accident.
Speaker 2: Send the kid a bunch of school supplies. Maybe you
get him a new laptop, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1: But then maybe gets a big settlement and goes on
J G. Wetworth. It gets all that money up front
to cash payments.
Speaker 2: According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, approximately seventeen
students are fatally injured in school transportation related crashes every year. However,
the number of students hit by school buses but not
fatally injured isn't precisely tracked. They're estimating between one hundred
and two hundred kids a year.
Speaker 1: Estimation. That's small.
Speaker 2: But in the country, this size that is, that is small.
But oh my god. And the school bus is its
own ecological system. I mean, you got your own, you
got your own hierarchy, it's its own society.
Speaker 1: Wait till they go electric billy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's where get out. It's gonna be unbelievable,
all right to fight.
Speaker 1: Well, don't ever tell you the story about the time
where like my school bus or the last day of
school failed to get uphill the way to drive us home.
What third grade or second grade, last day of school,
it's going up hill. They got to stop. The bus
went vapor lock, and all these kids they could know
it's atlast day of school, and it's like ninety degrees outside.
It's June. It's late June. Last day of school. We
can't get away from school. We're stuck out of that bus.
So my father sees it from two hundred yards away.
We didn't eve get to the bus stop. He walks
over and he goes, hey, is everything okay? The bus
is vapor locked. Somebody's got to My radio's not working,
somebody's got to call the school and tell it we're stuck.
And all these kids are sitting there roasting on this
bus for like a half hour hour two hours. He
came and got us, and then he's like telling all
the neighborhood parents, Hey, go get your kid. They're stuck
on the school bus. They can't let him out. Even
though we're only like fifty yards away from the stop.
Technically they couldn't let us out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't sure at the stop or you have
to have the parents and you have to know.
Speaker 1: It's apparents school ain't out yet. I'm sorry. The fight ahead, right,
give me the fight real quick.
Speaker 2: Because I watched this thing and some people think Jake
had connected with Tyson's face in round three, and then
after that he just kind of carried him and it
was a dance. I said, it was like dancing with
the stars. The only thing that was that something wasn't
adding up to me, and I couldn't tell what it was.
I have been told that people like Joe Rogan got
to see the contract. I didn't hear this. I'm hearing
it second or third hand from somebody that Mike wasn't
allowed to throw uppercuts in the contract. Okay, I don't
know if that's true or not. Mike has almost a
patented move where he hits you with a hook and
then he comes down low, hits you with a hook again,
and then an uppercut. Right, And so I'm not I
was told no uppercut was.
Speaker 1: In the contract. Whether or not that's true, I have
no idea. But he didn't throw.
Speaker 2: Any No, and Mike only threw I think he threw
less than one hundred punches.
Speaker 1: I think he threw ninety eight, like they're like those
six rounds. I think he only landed like seven punches.
Speaker 2: Or and I think he landed or no, maybe he
threw closer to two hundred and landed ninety eight something
like that.
Speaker 1: But it was bad. I wasn't land ninety eight. It
wasn't great, but he was able to weave well he
could move, but he wasn't like like like there's other
video that's come out that suggests that, like his legs
didn't look good. Well he like he I think he
like sprinting around the first forty five seconds of the fight. Remember,
these weren't three minute rounds.
Speaker 2: They were rounds, which is I'll tell you what, Danny
watching that because exhibition rules mailboxing is uh, three minute
rounds ten ten round ten.
Speaker 1: Three minute rounds. That would be the concise way to say.
This was eight two minute rounds.
Speaker 2: And the two minute rounds felt too short, like they
started to get into the rhythm of the round, the
round would end the clicking. Yeah, so I wasn't I
wasn't sure there two minutes. You know, take a boxing
class some time and just hit the bag rapid fire
where you're just going pop pop pop. It's hard for
three minutes, non stop, and it will wear you out,
it does. Does you want to get rid of lunch
lady arms? That's whatever, Yeah, it's I got rid of mine.
It's a great way to do It's a great way
to get rid of the bat wings. But I felt
like I couldn't tell what was happening with Tyson. I'm like,
I don't think he's this bad because Tyson, when you
saw him and granted focus, mits are not another human
being being in the ring, and you know, defensive moves
and offensive striking and so I don't know, but uh,
I thought boint something right here? Was he high?
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell what was going on. I really couldn't. Like,
I honestly looked at that, and I go, I don't
believe he's this bad.
Speaker 2: I just don't. And I'm not saying Jake's not good.
I'll I have said for a long time. Matter of fact,
a couple of years now, Jake Paul is putting eyes
on boxing. There was a women's bout before that that
was great, right, you had Katie Kay.
Speaker 1: I missed it because the fight kept buffering.
Speaker 2: So I had the buffering.
Speaker 1: So I had buffering though I had buffering the whole night. Yeah,
and so so like I skipped the second to last fight,
and I was texting Greg because Greg was out at
Iron smoke with some people, and so he's like, yeah,
what what time is that fighting? So I thought that
fight was gonna go off at like twelve fifteen, twelve thirty.
I was like No, I went off at like eleven
forty five. And so when he gets I'm like, hey,
don't don't bother. Don't don't bother. But the thing that
there's a lot of things about this fight number one,
like this was you know, like I said, nostalgia meets
marketing or novelty. Jake Paul's a novelty act. He's been
trying to let convince people that he's that he's a legitimate.
Speaker 2: He works hard, he does work.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that if he gets
in the ring with like twice in his twenties, that
that's gonna go that way. No, not even close. Tyson
cleans his clock. Canal will probably cleans his clock. He
didn't fight a legitimate fighter. And I don't mean that
by saying Tyson's not a legitimate fighter.
Speaker 2: He's at fifty eight.
Speaker 1: I don't care that. I mean. So, this was like
the last big fight, Remember was McGregor and Mayweather. Yeah, okay,
they called it the Heist for a reason, wink wink. Right.
The biggest fight before that was a fight that should
have happened ten years earlier, was Pakiao and Mayweather. These
fights are simply they're like Steve Kim, who's a guy
who's a long time box writer and he's an analyst
on the Blaze with Jason Whitlock. He goes Larry Merchant
told me this boxing will never die, but it can't
be saved. In other words, they have to have these
of these circus like events to get exposure for these
other fighters and to get people to pay attention to
talk about it. But we're never gonna find that big heavyweight.
We're not gonna be drawn to the TV on pay
per view on a Friday night or a Saturday night
like we were in the eighties and nineties. It's not
gonna happen. And this fight is more evidence of it.
We keep going back, why because we're suckers for maybe
just maybe the old man's got a step.
Speaker 2: Book, got it, like to see Mike Tyson one more
Tom Brady And but if he couldn't throw uppercuts, which
is sort of his patented moved.
Speaker 1: Then there's no points. Then he was so that that's
a heist that he's like Tyson was never This is
gonna sound strange, but you know what I'm talking about.
Tyson was never a great technical boxer, like like Maywell
for his Mayweather's a technical boxer. He is a scientific boxer.
He's he was. He was literally like Tyson is literally
like I'm gonna knock you out. But the longer I
stay in this fight, the better shot you have to win. Yes,
you can say about anybody, but that was Tyson's game. Knockout, knockout, knockout, knockout, right,
you know, and and like that's what we waited for.
That's what we wanted with Tyson. So what we saw
with Tyson, I mean, I tell people this, they don't
remember this. The day after the OJ murders, the top
story in ESPN was not OJ Simpson being investigated for
a double homicide. That was the third or fourth story.
The first story was Tyson was denied parole. Yeah, that's
how big by Tyson was. Mike.
Speaker 2: Mike was huge, one of the big to this day. Yes,
he's a beloved guy. There's people who are not shitting
on Tyson. They're going, hey, man, you went eight rounds
a fifty eight year old guy, good on you. They're
not full rounds. Katie Taylor fight, the one before that
phenomenal fight.
Speaker 1: Really really good fight.
Speaker 2: Katie Taylor questionable I always thought for a head butt
you should lose three points. You only lose one point.
She did head butt. The problem is she opened a
cut over the other woman's I'm forgetting her name at
the moment. Serrano, that's right, thank you.
Speaker 1: And I heard that was the flight of the night.
Speaker 2: It was, and it was co headlining fight. So these women,
But I go, what ish ish god?
Speaker 1: Well say, hey, we're double headlining. Whoever gets the last
matches the head lass. That's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: So but I go, boy, there's something happening in women's sports.
More people paying attention to the w NBA quality basketball,
where we used to make fun of it. This was
a quality boxing match.
Speaker 1: I go, look at this.
Speaker 2: You know, in the Olympics, I was watching some of
them female boxers. They're impressive. It's it's an impressive thing.
It is, but that they would not have had as
many eyes on them had it not been for Jake Baul.
Speaker 1: No, nobodys watching that fight without Chaul. I mean people
like people, yes, but not it's a very small niche
you got it, Like the UFC audience isn't even tuning
into this. No, it looks like there was a huge
US c UFC fight, did I.
Speaker 2: Guess I post Jones?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Lad, he's off the juice and back of action.
Well he's I've never seen him. I can't watch UFC Billy. No,
it's not even that. It's well, it is kind of violent,
but that's the thing. So my wife and I were
out and we saw like pre fights just at this
restaurant we were at, so ESPN plus had these pre
fights before the big one, and we're just watching it.
I'm like, yeah, I can't get into that because once
they get on the mat and then just start like
just throw Yeah, I'm like, this is boring, like rustling,
make fun of it. It tells a story. Boxing tells
a story. The story sucked, but still told a story
on Sunday, Saturday night, a Friday night. Excuse me, you
have seen doesn't really tell a story. It's one guy's
gonna get get the other guy on the floor and
kick his ass and that's the fight. Yeah, it looks
brutal to me. It is.
Speaker 2: I mean it looks like there's sweet scienceisics a train
for this.
Speaker 1: It looks absolutely right.
Speaker 2: And John Bones Jones, I don't know if he's crazy.
I've heard guy say he shows up and doesn't warm
up and just gets in the ring and kicks your ass.
Speaker 1: And he did.
Speaker 2: He did the swift kick to the ribs, knocks the
window of the guy. The guy the counters with the
you're done, and that was it.
Speaker 1: You know, that was all. Look this with this fight
with with Paul and Tyson, I wouldn't be surprised if
it was thrown. I wouldn't be surprised if it was
just like, you know, screwing, like, hey, let's get a payday.
Which the thing is this, though I am shocked at
the number of legitimate sports writers and sportscasters who are
shocked by Tyson's performance. It's one thing to vote, It's
one thing to bet on the guy, Yeah, because we
bet for a lot of different reasons. You couldn't bet
on this fight in New York, by the way. You couldn't.
I tried, You couldn't bet on it, fandle. You couldn't
do it. It's because everybody's got a puncher's chance. But
if you thought, if you were shocked that Tyson didn't
look like himself, I want you need your credentials remove.
Speaker 2: But I was a little bit yeah, because I thought
having watched I watched some of the video.
Speaker 1: Uh leading up to the fight, they did like a
three series. Oh yeah, that's the thing. Now to lead
up the fight, HBO started. It's brilliant.
Speaker 2: It was great and I enjoyed it. And you saw
Mike working out, and you saw Mike doing stuff. I
will say all the time. Two minutes on focus, mints,
ninety seconds, three minutes, whatever. Is not the same as
being in the ring, but it gave you a hope
there was something there. And the thing that was weird
to me was Mike's legs all night. He just just
didn't look like he was even getting into it. He
knows how to do it right, and boxing is a
lot of hip stuff.
Speaker 1: I didn't. It didn't come out that he had a
full blood transfusion three like back in June, that's something happens, okay,
So like that's the reason the reason Pakia didn't want
to do a blood test in front of Mayweather was
because when they draw blood for you the week of
the fight, you're sapped. You can't rebuild that. So imagine like,
you know, losing all that blood. I don't Back in June,
there was a payday That's what it was. Paul wanted legitimacy.
They got, They got the money.
Speaker 2: The joke is on us, Ah, Daddy, all right, always
a pleasure, love your thoughts, I bring it, I pray.
Speaker 1: Going to the doctor, yes, please, yes. And we learned
something today what queening is. Yes? And the chair maybe
maybe Christmas, I don't know, for your queen, Prime Week.
Speaker 2: For Dan Brillo, I'm Bill Moran, will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: What to do? I turn a TV on? Rule A
letter to you and dull stalking by the Dagenet up
on the Unit of State. See. They were looking for
a kind of light with tennis.
Speaker 4: See