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Speaker 5: Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, we got somebody
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Speaker 3: It's good to be back, And of course I always
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Speaker 5: Hell yeah, hell yeah. Well I'm glad to have you back.
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Speaker 3: I mean, of course, yes. I've been actually taking a
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Speaker 7: Olly, Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 5: Doc very much for coming on man and tonight we
Speaker 5: got the Secret Life of John Willis Booth. Now I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be totally honest with you. This was a topic
Speaker 5: that I didn't know really or I didn't know of
Speaker 5: this situation until I saw you post about it, and
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I had no idea, and I
Speaker 5: was like, fucking it. Hit you upbout it? And you're like, yeah,
Speaker 5: come on, so well you want to tell us a
Speaker 5: little bit. I guess, like, what even got you on
Speaker 5: to this topic? I made you think about it? Yeah.
Speaker 9: Honestly, I always said that I was a history buff.
Speaker 9: I love history, but I always just consumed, you know,
Speaker 9: the mainstream narrative. And it wasn't until I started getting
Speaker 9: into like the biblical topics and kind of widely known
Speaker 9: conspiracies that I started questioning the narrative and started looking
Speaker 9: into these other things. And that's something I even say
Speaker 9: on the show that I try to try to take
Speaker 9: a second look at everything, you know, the histories, the Bible,
Speaker 9: all that stuff too, because more times than not we've
Speaker 9: been lied to when we go back and look at
Speaker 9: it for ourselves. And honestly, I just grabbed a book.
Speaker 9: I always go to this place called McKay's Used Books
Speaker 9: down in Knoxville. It's like an hour from me. It's
Speaker 9: like a three story tall building full of nothing but books,
Speaker 9: old vinyl records, collectibles, video games, all kinds of cool stuff.
Speaker 9: It's in that building, but I always go there anytime
Speaker 9: I'm around Knoxville, and I always spend at least one
Speaker 9: hundred bucks every time I go. But I found this
Speaker 9: book and I'll show you guys this. It's ten of
Speaker 9: the greatest mysteries been coded, and it's full of pictures
Speaker 9: and it's got like little evidence files you can pull out,
Speaker 9: you know, like replica documents of the stuff they're talking about.
Speaker 9: And that's kind of where I found this story, and
Speaker 9: it kind of piqued my interest, and so then I
Speaker 9: started deep diving looking into this stuff. And yeah, once again, guys,
Speaker 9: there's pretty compelling evidence that the man that we were
Speaker 9: told that shot President Abraham Lincoln and escaped and like
Speaker 9: twelve days later was shot in a barn was a lie.
Speaker 9: You know, surprise, surprise. There's all kinds of you know,
Speaker 9: everybody's got theories and legends and things like that. But
Speaker 9: there's a couple that I found that has a really
Speaker 9: good paper trail, and I just kind of went down
Speaker 9: through it and started finding this stuff and I just
Speaker 9: kind of did a little show about it on my
Speaker 9: channel for my paying members, and I put like a
Speaker 9: little teaser last week on it.
Speaker 2: But like we were talking pre roll, I'm one of
Speaker 2: these guys.
Speaker 9: I'm like the dog with the bone, you know, I
Speaker 9: have to know everything so I started researching, and I
Speaker 9: even found some authors that's dedicated their life to studying
Speaker 9: into John Wilkes Booth, Jesse James, and then the Nights
Speaker 9: of the Golden Circle. So this was a very deep
Speaker 9: rabbit hole. So I'm really excited to sit down and
Speaker 9: talk to some of these guys that's dedicated thirty forty years.
Speaker 2: Into this topic.
Speaker 9: But I've been into it so far for maybe two
Speaker 9: weeks now, and I found a lot of really cool stuff.
Speaker 9: So I'm excited to share it with you and some
Speaker 9: of you guys that may be old news because when
Speaker 9: I shared some of this stuff on my social media's
Speaker 9: and stuff, I had people saying.
Speaker 5: Man, I've known this for twenty years.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well I just found out.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, fuck me for trying to put something
Speaker 3: cool out there. I've never heard of it. I'm excited.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I me.
Speaker 5: Unlessen. We both see what people see on social media,
Speaker 5: you know, and it's kind of these are coming from
Speaker 5: people who don't have a microphone and however even their
Speaker 5: own pockets.
Speaker 7: Mmm yeah, slaggers.
Speaker 6: Well this brings up an interesting continuity. So do you
Speaker 6: think the Knights of the Golden Circle are tied to
Speaker 6: the Society of the Cincinnati and then ultimately the Knights Templar.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 9: I'm not familiar with the Cincinnati Society, but honestly, the
Speaker 9: Knights of the Golden Circle I had never heard of
Speaker 9: until this, and so me, I'm just.
Speaker 2: Like, I gotta go see all this stuff.
Speaker 9: But from what I have heard and read, uh, it
Speaker 9: sounds like it's just a an offshoot branch of the Masons.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 9: Also it's kind of like a lot of the a
Speaker 9: lot of the members once the organization got quote unquote
Speaker 9: shut down, Uh, just kind of migrated into the the
Speaker 9: klu Klux Klan movement. But this whole thing was blew
Speaker 9: my mind. They're like a you know, it's a secret society.
Speaker 9: But what separates these guys is they didn't write their
Speaker 9: stuff down. They were extremely secretive. So the stuff that
Speaker 9: we know is just from legends and lore and or
Speaker 9: people that has come forward and kind of admitted on
Speaker 9: their deathbed to some things. But basically just in a nutshell,
Speaker 9: these guys they called themselves the Night of the Golden
Speaker 9: Circle because they envisioned a territory like on a map,
Speaker 9: in a big circle, and they called it the Golden Circle.
Speaker 9: And what they wanted to do was take parts of Canada,
Speaker 9: North America and go on into Mexico and circle around
Speaker 9: to the Caribbeans and Jamaica and back into Florida. And
Speaker 9: this was this great, big Golden Circle. And a lot
Speaker 9: of the men that joined this were influential leaders and politics.
Speaker 9: They were wealthy farmers and landowners and railroad tycoons. These
Speaker 9: were the elites of the time, and they wanted to
Speaker 9: protect slavery, for one, because they had a lot of
Speaker 9: slavery workers fueling their pockets, but also just to keep
Speaker 9: their business kind of like a monopoly type thing. That's
Speaker 9: why they even said it was the Golden Circle. So
Speaker 9: they were actually putting these people in this secret society
Speaker 9: into political office. They were hanging out at sight of
Speaker 9: voting booths and intimidating and beating people to vote the
Speaker 9: way they wanted them to vote. And they were even
Speaker 9: doing what was called filibusting. And I didn't know what
Speaker 9: this was till I kind of went down this rabbit
Speaker 9: trail as when I heard that, I thought of, oh,
Speaker 9: that's when they refused to vote in Congress, and they're filibusting.
Speaker 9: But what that term actually comes from is people, groups, gangs,
Speaker 9: whatever would go and invade a country or town or
Speaker 9: territory and set up a colony and then basically just
Speaker 9: forcefully take it over. And that's what we done with
Speaker 9: Texas guys. We moved in and set up a colony
Speaker 9: and then we just kicked everybody out and beat them
Speaker 9: up and took their property from them. And they were
Speaker 9: actually in the process of doing this in Mexico, but
Speaker 9: all their plans kind of got thwarted because of the
Speaker 9: Civil War, and the Civil War through a big wrench
Speaker 9: and all their plans.
Speaker 6: Well, in some ways, I think this was like the
Speaker 6: escape route for these Civil War major characters. Is they
Speaker 6: wanted to set up sort of an alternate republican system
Speaker 6: within the Gulf of Mexico. And to me, it just
Speaker 6: sounds a lot like the Carthaginians, which had this sort
Speaker 6: of massive sea empire. You know, they wanted to have
Speaker 6: towns every thirty miles all the way around the Mediterranean
Speaker 6: and sort of set up this trade network. And so
Speaker 6: what they were looking to do is have that same
Speaker 6: sort of trade network still processing and putting in these
Speaker 6: slaves and you know, put them all over South America.
Speaker 6: And just sort of take over the place from the coasts,
Speaker 6: which was, you know, kind of a popular thing to do,
Speaker 6: especially with the Freemasons. The Freemasons anytime they would have
Speaker 6: an outpost and a colony or whatever, they would do
Speaker 6: the exact same thing that you were just talking about.
Speaker 6: The filibuster. They would make sure that nothing else could
Speaker 6: get in and they were the only ones providing resources.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 6: It was you know, monopolization.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, one percent.
Speaker 9: And all these main political figures and these soldiers and
Speaker 9: the Confederacy and things like that. They used this Knights
Speaker 9: of the Golden Circle as like, how, what's the word
Speaker 9: I'm looking for? Like, what was it call when some
Speaker 9: when a snitch goes into protective protective custody?
Speaker 2: They kind of used that.
Speaker 9: You know, this was a group that had a lot
Speaker 9: of money, a lot of influence, and they would harbor
Speaker 9: these people, give them money, send them to go hide out,
Speaker 9: and they protected them. And John Wilkes Booth was one
Speaker 9: of those guys.
Speaker 7: In the Confederate States of America.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was funny, but.
Speaker 9: John Wicks Booth, he was in he was a member
Speaker 9: of it. Uh, the well known Jesse James was in
Speaker 9: this group, and once the Civil War broke out, like
Speaker 9: I said, it kind of through a wrench in their
Speaker 9: plan and they kind of had to divert their attention.
Speaker 9: And what was wild was when I looked into this
Speaker 9: and once again, guys, I'm a Southern man. I have
Speaker 9: my biases like anybody else, but I am not a
Speaker 9: proponent of slavery whatsoever. But the narrative that we were given,
Speaker 9: or I was given as a child, was that the
Speaker 9: Civil War started out to free the slaves. It was
Speaker 9: all about ending slavery.
Speaker 2: And that was a lie.
Speaker 9: Uh what happened And this is once again once again,
Speaker 9: once I started looking into this stuff, I found the
Speaker 9: real narrative was that the Southern states didn't want to
Speaker 9: vote for Abraham Lincoln. They didn't want him as president.
Speaker 9: And he was going out and publicly saying, you know, hey, guys,
Speaker 9: I'm not coming after the slaves. I am not a tyrant,
Speaker 9: I am not a king. I don't have the rights
Speaker 9: to take away and say what your state does. The
Speaker 9: states ruled themselves individually, and you can vote for me,
Speaker 9: and rest assured, I am not going to take away
Speaker 9: your slaves. And so he got voted in. But when
Speaker 9: you go back and look, they had the electoral college
Speaker 9: back then, he won the presidency without one single electorial
Speaker 9: point from the South. He got voted in just from
Speaker 9: that upper North. And we see that even today, so
Speaker 9: that the South was like, our vote doesn't even count.
Speaker 9: How come that little strip of land up there in
Speaker 9: New England controls the destiny of the entire country. We're out,
Speaker 9: We're going to succeed from the Union because obviously our
Speaker 9: boat doesn't count. And that that's what got it all started.
Speaker 9: And when you go to Abraham Lincoln's inaugural speech, he
Speaker 9: says it again, all my Southern.
Speaker 5: Brothers and sisters, rest assured.
Speaker 9: I'm going to stand by my campaign promise. I am
Speaker 9: not going after the slaves. You know, I am not
Speaker 9: a king, I'm not a tyrant. The states ruled themselves individually,
Speaker 9: and I have no right to take those from you.
Speaker 9: So rest assured you have nothing to worry about. Because
Speaker 9: there was rumors of succession. But they ended up doing
Speaker 9: it anyway, and they were losing the fight. They were
Speaker 9: losing funding, they were they wouldn't get enough soldiers to
Speaker 9: sign up. I mean, they were losing. So then they
Speaker 9: drum up the narrative, Yeah, what of the be the
Speaker 9: slaves To get more people to donate and more people
Speaker 9: to sign up.
Speaker 6: One of the big things that they were using to
Speaker 6: unify a lot of the abolitionists that had formerly not
Speaker 6: been a factor in these elections they were standing from voting,
Speaker 6: is to say that they were going to free the slaves.
Speaker 6: Because the northern abolitionists were causing a major start up
Speaker 6: in the North and to get them on their side,
Speaker 6: he had to claim he was freeing the slaves. And
Speaker 6: what Abraham Lincoln himself said, if I could unite the
Speaker 6: Union without freeing a single slave, I would, And so
Speaker 6: you kind of have to look at that narrative a
Speaker 6: little bit differently. He wanted total control over the United States.
Speaker 6: He didn't want there to be any Balkanization. He wanted
Speaker 6: to have it as a single union. They were getting
Speaker 6: ready for their big push out west. You know, he
Speaker 6: had to have everybody together, and that was a big
Speaker 6: factor in Bleeding Kansas for example. Right, So this is
Speaker 6: one of these precursors to the war, is this massive
Speaker 6: fight out in Bleeding Kansas to determine whether or not
Speaker 6: this was going to be a North you know, non
Speaker 6: slavery state and or a southern state, and you know,
Speaker 6: they fought it out there, and this was where John
Speaker 6: Brown got his big start. And it wasn't until you know,
Speaker 6: later on when he went up to West Virginia that
Speaker 6: you see another one of these big kickoffs for the
Speaker 6: Civil War, which was he was attacking magazine and he
Speaker 6: was going to free all the slaves and in the
Speaker 6: process he actually kills a black man. So as he's
Speaker 6: going towards the magazine, there's a black man there as
Speaker 6: a witness, and he's got to shoot the witness so
Speaker 6: that nobody gets alerted to the fact that they're about
Speaker 6: to take over this military side. So you know, John
Speaker 6: Brown's though hero. He was just a scumbag liberal like
Speaker 6: the kind that we have today. You know, a lot
Speaker 6: of people don't realize that even the heroes that they say,
Speaker 6: we're on the North is just you know, there's not
Speaker 6: a lot there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of people don't realize too.
Speaker 9: It's like the Northern you know, say ettlements, colonies, what
Speaker 9: they used to be. They were a lot larger territories,
Speaker 9: and what did they do. They started busting up these
Speaker 9: large territories into smaller states, and they've done that to
Speaker 9: create more electoral college votes in their favor. That's why
Speaker 9: even today you look at a map and ninety percent
Speaker 9: of it'll be red or eighty percent of it, and
Speaker 9: you only got twenty percent, just a couple of little
Speaker 9: blue dots here and there. Yea, their candidate wins because
Speaker 9: all these little states.
Speaker 5: If Manhattan turns red, whatever Manhattan is, is probably going
Speaker 5: to dictate the whole fucking state. Yeah, so looking at
Speaker 5: how it is in New York, you're like, this is fuck.
Speaker 9: And they're doing it now, just a different way. But
Speaker 9: they're opening borders and bringing in all these migrants and
Speaker 9: where they're saying, hey, we're the ones that.
Speaker 2: Let you in.
Speaker 9: You know, you better vote for us. So they're creating
Speaker 9: more so they can't bust up territories and make smaller
Speaker 9: states and create more elector college points now, So now
Speaker 9: they have to flood these already existing states with migrants
Speaker 9: that are going to vote the way that they want
Speaker 9: them to. And that's why you see all of the
Speaker 9: sanctuary cities are all in blue states and blue counties
Speaker 9: because they're up into population to try to increase their
Speaker 9: electoral votes.
Speaker 6: To exemplify this where I'm sitting at right now in Wisconsin.
Speaker 6: During the beginning part of the country, this would be
Speaker 6: considered Virginia. Virginia went out that far. So I mean,
Speaker 6: these these places were getting you know, portioned out, and
Speaker 6: the South was getting left out of everything. You know,
Speaker 6: that's where all the big block states are, and it
Speaker 6: wasn't really seen as equal treatment. But in a lot
Speaker 6: of ways, the South was more advanced culturally than the North.
Speaker 6: A lot of these European visitors, in European you know, elites,
Speaker 6: wanted to come to the South because there was a
Speaker 6: much different kind of a culture that it was up
Speaker 6: north where they had again this immigrant problem and all
Speaker 6: the rest of this stuff that they didn't want to
Speaker 6: get robbed. They didn't want to go to New York.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you've ever seen the movie Gangs of
Speaker 6: New York, it was like that. Pretty much all throughout
Speaker 6: the Northeast, Baltimore, all these places were really rough to
Speaker 6: go to. The more industrialized city base was not nearly
Speaker 6: as nice and expansive and you know, quiet as the
Speaker 6: South was.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And if you remember that movie Gangs in New
Speaker 9: York when they went to the Harbor, all those Irish
Speaker 9: and English immigrants are coming off the boat. The Union
Speaker 9: soldiers were sitting there with the table for you to
Speaker 9: get in and get your assistanceship. You had to sign
Speaker 9: up for the Union Army, That's right. So I mean
Speaker 9: that shows you how what a rough shape they were
Speaker 9: in and doing everything they could to try to turn
Speaker 9: the tide of the war. So once this happened, once
Speaker 9: the war was over and Lee signed the treaty with Grant, Uh,
Speaker 9: it was just a few days later. It was on
Speaker 9: Good Friday. Uh, the North and everybody was celebrating the
Speaker 9: victory and unity. Well, of course the Southern states that
Speaker 9: just you know, lost their shot at freedom that they
Speaker 9: were trying to get. Uh, they weren't so happy, you
Speaker 9: know that that they weren't happy with the situation. They
Speaker 9: weren't happy with with Lincoln. They wasn't ready to celebrate.
Speaker 9: And so on that Good Friday he went to take
Speaker 9: his wife to Ford Steeter and they wanted to watch
Speaker 9: this play. It was called My Something.
Speaker 6: Cousin American, My American Cousin.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's when the night that John Willis Booth
Speaker 9: killed the president. And when I got to looking through that,
Speaker 9: there was so much stuff that I didn't realize or know.
Speaker 9: But John Wills Booth, he was basically our modern day
Speaker 9: Tom Cruise. He was a famous, well known actor. You know,
Speaker 9: he was known to swoon the ladies. He was a
Speaker 9: letter ees man and was just a really famous actor.
Speaker 9: And I didn't realize it, but he was so close
Speaker 9: with the owner of the Ford Theater that he even
Speaker 9: had his mail delivered there. He knew the place like
Speaker 9: the back of his hand. Well where he was a
Speaker 9: member of this Knight's that the Golden Circle. Him and
Speaker 9: a group of conspirators got together before the war was over,
Speaker 9: and they were planning on kidnapping the president and holding
Speaker 9: him for ransom to get all the Confederate soldiers released. Well,
Speaker 9: while they were planning all this, the war ended and
Speaker 9: then they started working out trade agreements to release that
Speaker 9: the Southern prisoners of war. So then therefore his plan
Speaker 9: was for not so he'd kind of given up, but
Speaker 9: he went to go pick up his mail, and then
Speaker 9: the owner of the joint was like, hey, we just
Speaker 9: found out Lincoln's coming tonight to watch the play.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh yeah, really okay.
Speaker 9: So then he drummed up this thing just on the fly,
Speaker 9: He's like, well, I'm just gonna I'm gonna kill this guy.
Speaker 9: So he went up and drilled a hole in the
Speaker 9: side of the wall where he could see like a
Speaker 9: peep hole and check things out. And he never even
Speaker 9: tried to hide his identity. He walked in that night
Speaker 9: like he owned the place.
Speaker 7: Good dead, Yeah, and.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he said that he walked in, he was shaking hands,
Speaker 9: talk with everybody, like everything was just hunky dory, and uh,
Speaker 9: he walked up and of course you're thinking the president
Speaker 9: should have some security detail.
Speaker 2: Back then, he.
Speaker 9: Only had one or two guys, and on this night
Speaker 9: they were a couple of streets down having drinks with friends.
Speaker 9: And it says that he walks up and he knew
Speaker 9: the play well and h In the third scene, there
Speaker 9: was this big hit moment where everybody starts laughing and
Speaker 9: makes a lot of ruckus and noise. He planned on
Speaker 9: going in and shooting him then that way people maybe
Speaker 9: wouldn't hear the gunshots or notice it. But he snuck
Speaker 9: in that grand scene, he shot the president while a
Speaker 9: nearby officer heard the bang and smelt the sulfur and
Speaker 9: busted in and Booth ends up stabbing him in a struggle,
Speaker 9: and they're in this balcony. It's like twelve foot off
Speaker 9: the ground overlooking the stage. And so Booth after he
Speaker 9: does this, in him being an actor, he couldn't resist
Speaker 9: the chance for a final curtain call. He jumped off
Speaker 9: the balcony and landed onto the stage. But during his
Speaker 9: landing he.
Speaker 2: Broke his leg. He broke his left leg.
Speaker 9: But he stands up and turns to the crowd, and
Speaker 9: of course there's chaos going on, and he proclaims, in
Speaker 9: enlighten thus to all tyrants. And he was quoting from
Speaker 9: Shakespeare when Brutus killed Caesar, because that's what he said.
Speaker 9: He said, us to all tyrants. And then he took
Speaker 9: off and there he had his a friend of his,
Speaker 9: holding his horse and ready to for a getaway. And
Speaker 9: so they ride hard. I think they said. They rode
Speaker 9: like fourteen miles and made it to this tavern. Were
Speaker 9: there he had food, supplies and guns, safe houts. Yeah,
Speaker 9: basically it was like a tavern cool and so they
Speaker 9: got their supplies, never even bothered. The Booth didn't even
Speaker 9: get off his horse because of his broken leg. But
Speaker 9: he couldn't resist to tell everybody that he just killed
Speaker 9: the president. He had to brag about it. And then
Speaker 9: he keeps riding down further south and he's in so
Speaker 9: much pain that he stops and sees this doctor. I'm
Speaker 9: trying to think me, look, it's I remember his last
Speaker 9: name was mud Yeah, and a whodhouse.
Speaker 6: I used to drive by that every day for work.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And so he went to see him, and he
Speaker 9: was a doctor that he had known and seen before.
Speaker 9: Because when the after seeing he knew who he was,
Speaker 9: and he.
Speaker 6: Reached he's not going south. They're looking for him in
Speaker 6: the south. That's where they assume that he's going to go.
Speaker 6: So where does he go? He goes up north and
Speaker 6: east or north and west. So he wasn't he wasn't,
Speaker 6: you know, playing along with the you know, the whole trope.
Speaker 6: He was going to find a different way to get
Speaker 6: back to the south because obviously they had headed him
Speaker 6: off at the pass. But on the way out there
Speaker 6: looking for him, they find this guy named John B.
Speaker 6: Guida and he was an Italian born Jesuit that was
Speaker 6: a dead ringer for John Wilkes Booth and they kind
Speaker 6: of knew each other too. And so this is giving
Speaker 6: me a lot of vibes like the Kennedy assassination, right,
Speaker 6: because they had that that a police guy who they
Speaker 6: called JFK because you know, he was that ringer for him.
Speaker 3: There was also multiple Oswalts. That's another thing that people
Speaker 3: talk about. There's multiple Oswalt's, Like somebody saw him running
Speaker 3: up the stairs. Another person saw him like by the
Speaker 3: grassy knoll, another person saw him like whatever. There was
Speaker 3: like multiple assassins. They all looked the same and they
Speaker 3: were all Oswald.
Speaker 6: There's a recent picture with Oswald standing close to the
Speaker 6: the Kennedy you know limousine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get up right, right. So that's where like the
Speaker 3: multiple Oswald thing comes in. So there could possibly have
Speaker 3: been like multiple John Wilkes booth like you know, to
Speaker 3: throw people off the trail. But you know, it's interesting
Speaker 3: to me with this whole Nights of the Golden Circle
Speaker 3: thing and then quoting Shakespear and you know, Lincoln was
Speaker 3: doing seances and shit at the White House. It was
Speaker 3: conjuring shit definitely into some weird stuff. And also they
Speaker 3: say that Lincoln had some form of like weird gigantism
Speaker 3: and he was probably descended from some weird motherfuckers, uh family, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. Like, it wasn't like he was
Speaker 3: yeah right, Nefflom ship. It's not It's not like, Oh,
Speaker 3: he was just a really tall guy and he liked
Speaker 3: to wear these top hats that made him look like
Speaker 3: a fucking magician. No coincidence there, uh, but no, he
Speaker 3: had some kind of weird gigantism and he was like
Speaker 3: half retarded or something like that. Yeah, he probably kind
Speaker 3: of left flip cleft palette like Joaquin Phoenix that got
Speaker 3: fixed over time, you know, I don't you know. That's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. He was into some some nefarious ship,
Speaker 3: and so probably was John will Booth. Oh, somebody already
Speaker 3: commented beehole. The podcast is complete now, mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 7: It was a great episode.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 5: Do you remember that one? Were you that.
Speaker 2: I was here for it?
Speaker 7: It's beautiful.
Speaker 5: I wasn't here.
Speaker 2: I was in the chat.
Speaker 5: The chat.
Speaker 7: Yeah, doctor Mud fixed his leg.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, Doctor Matty reset his leg. And what was
Speaker 9: crazy is he knew John Wills Booth he was part
Speaker 9: of the conspirators that were going to kidnap him, but
Speaker 9: he had no idea that he killed the president because,
Speaker 9: like I said, this was a last minute thing. He's like,
Speaker 9: I'm just gonna wing it, and like Hedla said, you know,
Speaker 9: he kind of went north for a little bit before
Speaker 9: he started going to Maryland. Yeah, one first, because he
Speaker 9: was he was panicked, he was freaking out. His kind
Speaker 9: of playing it as he went along because it wasn't planned.
Speaker 9: This was a spur of the moment thing. And so
Speaker 9: the the doctor reset his leg, let him stay at
Speaker 9: his house, and he went to town the next morning and
Speaker 9: he's seen the Union soldiers and everybody talking about the
Speaker 9: other president was just shot last night, and he was
Speaker 9: just like, oh my god, he did it.
Speaker 2: He did it.
Speaker 9: So then he goes back and he's like, hey, I'm
Speaker 9: not going to rat you out, man, but you cannot
Speaker 9: stay here. You're gonna, you know, implement me in this.
Speaker 2: You got to go.
Speaker 9: So they pack up and they take off and then
Speaker 9: here's where they go to that that farm.
Speaker 2: What was the name of that farm?
Speaker 9: I got it in my notes, but it was the
Speaker 9: Garrett Farm.
Speaker 2: Garrett Garrett Farm.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And the way the mainstream narrative, yeah, the mainstream
Speaker 9: narrative is that they go to this barn and they
Speaker 9: stay with his family for two to three days, and
Speaker 9: even when I first heard that, I was like, this
Speaker 9: is guy that just killed the president. He's on the run.
Speaker 9: He's not gonna stay somewhere two or three days. Man,
Speaker 9: He's gonna be one to be moving. I mean, that's
Speaker 9: how i'd want to be. I'm like, I ain't sitting still.
Speaker 9: I'm moving because every day I'm sitting still, they're gaining
Speaker 9: on me.
Speaker 7: Yea.
Speaker 9: And they said that on that night, that somehow the
Speaker 9: Union soldiers found out he was there. And what I
Speaker 9: had heard through some people was that this family, this
Speaker 9: Garrett family, had found out who he was what he done,
Speaker 9: and they played it nice and sent somebody out of
Speaker 9: the town to tell the union and then told him,
Speaker 9: you know, hey, we know you guys are doing some
Speaker 9: of the nefarious stuff. You're just gonna have to sleep
Speaker 9: in the barn tonight and tomorrow you're gonna be on
Speaker 9: your way. And supposedly they locked them in the barn,
Speaker 9: the tobacco barn, until the Union soldiers showed up up,
Speaker 9: and that they burned the barn down to smoke them out.
Speaker 9: At his co conspirator George comes out with his hands
Speaker 9: up and surrenders, and they say that John Wilkes Booth
Speaker 9: come out with a rifle in hand, and he was
Speaker 9: shot in the neck and was killed. And that's the
Speaker 9: mainstream narrative that we're given. And what I had found
Speaker 9: going through here was that the man that they killed
Speaker 9: was not John Wilkes Booth, and they believe it to
Speaker 9: be this guy named James Boyd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And can I do.
Speaker 5: A screen chair as you can?
Speaker 9: I wanted to show you guys this picture this guy.
Speaker 9: That way people can kind of just see the comparison here. Uh,
Speaker 9: let's see is that the plus button share?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 6: Sure. Something to be noted here about the tobacco barn
Speaker 6: because tobacco barns are classically all open, right. They have
Speaker 6: to the air circular around the tobacco so that it
Speaker 6: can dry out properly, and it takes about a year
Speaker 6: for it to try out. So these things are open
Speaker 6: all the time. There's no way that you can lock
Speaker 6: somebody in a tobacco barn because all they'd have to
Speaker 6: do is slip out one of the open ports that
Speaker 6: are open all the way around this thing.
Speaker 9: So yeah, there was hundreds of doors and they were
Speaker 9: all on hinges and they swung open to let the
Speaker 9: breeze in to air the tobacco out. And this guy
Speaker 9: right here, this picture, this, i believe it or not,
Speaker 9: is not John wils Booth, James Way.
Speaker 2: This is James Boyd.
Speaker 9: And you cannot tell me that this is that dude's doppelganger.
Speaker 7: Bro Yeah, they look a lot of like.
Speaker 9: And then some people want to say, you know, well,
Speaker 9: if this is the man they killed, how did he
Speaker 9: wind up in the barn with that George guy. Well,
Speaker 9: they interviewed all these different soldiers that helped them cross
Speaker 9: the river and to get to this farm and set
Speaker 9: him up there. The Unions found him and beat them
Speaker 9: and question them till they spilled the beans. This Boyd
Speaker 9: guy was a Confederate soldier. He also was in the
Speaker 9: Knights of the Golden Circle, and he aided Booth into
Speaker 9: crossing the river and getting him a ferry and setting
Speaker 9: him up with these garrets. And when Booth went to
Speaker 9: pay him for his services for helping him, he realized
Speaker 9: his wallet was missing, and he told Boyd that he
Speaker 9: had left his wallet on the ferry that if he
Speaker 9: would go and retrieve his wallet for him, he would
Speaker 9: pay him even more money. He'd bring it back to him.
Speaker 9: So they go on to the barn and Boyd goes
Speaker 9: to retrieve the wallet and the money. Well, during this time,
Speaker 9: they said that Booth become anxious and didn't want to
Speaker 9: stay there, and George didn't want to go with him,
Speaker 9: so he went on his own. He left well while
Speaker 9: they were waiting for him, and he took off. Boyd
Speaker 9: returns with the wallet and the money, and it was
Speaker 9: late at night. He had nowhere to go, so he
Speaker 9: stayed in the barn. And that was the guy they
Speaker 9: killed that night. Yeah, and this guy's a dead ringer.
Speaker 9: And when they took his body to the I can't
Speaker 9: remember the name of that. It was some kind of
Speaker 9: military ship that there was a doctor there and they
Speaker 9: took him there for an autopsy and examination, and the
Speaker 9: doctor was a Frederick May. This guy, Frederick May, was
Speaker 9: a position of Booth and just a year or two
Speaker 9: prior had removed a growth from the back of his neck,
Speaker 9: so he knew him well. When May seen the body,
Speaker 9: they called him to identify the body. When he first
Speaker 9: seen the body, he said, this is not John Will's Booth.
Speaker 9: And then his family still has his records, and in
Speaker 9: his records he said when he seen the body, it
Speaker 9: looked nothing like Booth, and that he had a broken
Speaker 9: right leg. All the accounts said he broke his left leg,
Speaker 9: not his right.
Speaker 3: You think they broke his wrong leg after they shot
Speaker 3: him to make it look like it, because I was
Speaker 3: going to say, wouldn't you just have to see if
Speaker 3: this guy had a fucked up leg, you know, just
Speaker 3: to make sure if it was the real Booth or not.
Speaker 3: So they broke the wrong leg on some fucking hurry
Speaker 3: up cover job, sloppy bullshit. This is like the flop
Speaker 3: to break the right fucking leg the bro.
Speaker 6: This is like, this is like the flap of skin
Speaker 6: on on Kennedy's forehead that they cut open. It was
Speaker 6: so obvious, but you know, everybody kind of passes it over.
Speaker 6: What are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 9: And that's the thing that when I seen that, I
Speaker 9: was like the guy that operated on his neck knew
Speaker 9: him well, said no, that's not him. And then even
Speaker 9: in his own notes states that the wrong leg was broken,
Speaker 9: and but then later that the people that want to
Speaker 9: go with the mainstream narrative and says, oh well, he
Speaker 9: later recanted after he got to looking at it closer.
Speaker 9: That the guy had a scar on the back of
Speaker 9: his neck, and yeah, that that was where he removed
Speaker 9: that growth that he had, and he later recanted once
Speaker 9: he got to better look at him. Well, no, the government,
Speaker 9: Uh probably put a gun to his head and told him,
Speaker 9: you know, hey, our president was just killed and the
Speaker 9: killer got away, and we're not going back to Washington
Speaker 9: and say that he got away. Uh, so we need
Speaker 9: some stability in the country. And I'm not going back
Speaker 9: to Washington saying that we strewed up. So you're going
Speaker 9: to say this is him.
Speaker 3: They just need the bad guy. They just it didn't matter,
Speaker 3: like they just needed They just needed to get the
Speaker 3: bad guy.
Speaker 6: They ran across somebody that looked like John Wolke's booth
Speaker 6: on their way searching around for him, and they shot him.
Speaker 6: And then they're like, well, he does kind of look
Speaker 6: like John Wolke's booth.
Speaker 3: Not a good day to look like John wilkes booth. No,
Speaker 3: not at all. He look like him, though, I mean he.
Speaker 7: Does for sure. I mean some of his descendants.
Speaker 8: And like other researchers have like attempted to get the
Speaker 8: body exhumed right to do DNA comparison. But I find
Speaker 8: it weird that all the requests.
Speaker 7: Have been denied. Yes, I mean, you want to know.
Speaker 7: It's not like.
Speaker 8: They've exumed bodies all the time on a regular basis.
Speaker 8: But you know, if if the family like descendants are
Speaker 8: actually requesting, you know, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And they actually have a piece of the spinal the
Speaker 9: vertebrae of the the cadaver that they killed that they
Speaker 9: believe is John Wilkes Booth. That it's put up like
Speaker 9: in a museum or archive somewhere, and it even has
Speaker 9: the bullet hole through it. And they even studied that,
Speaker 9: and they said that the guy that's that and their
Speaker 9: reports that shot John Wilkes Booth was like five foot
Speaker 9: four or something like that. He was a short guy
Speaker 9: and that Booth was like six foot and they said
Speaker 9: so when they shot the guy, examined that vertebrae and
Speaker 9: said it was at a twenty degree downward angle. He said,
Speaker 9: there's no way that that guy made that shot because
Speaker 9: he's shorter than him. It'd have been going up instead
Speaker 9: of down.
Speaker 3: This is like the argument I make for the fake
Speaker 3: Paul McCartney. How the fuck did he gain like three feet?
Speaker 3: The real Paul was like super short, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And then the accident happened, and then he
Speaker 3: like all of a sudden, was six foot tall. And people,
Speaker 3: you know, don't know that because how many times do
Speaker 3: you fucking get to meet Paul McCartney. He's not just
Speaker 3: gonna be at Walmart one day like, oh, you're super
Speaker 3: fucking tall. When did that happen? Nobody, the general public
Speaker 3: is not gonna know that he puts.
Speaker 7: Those things in his shoes, Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Though, It's like it's like with this, with this cadaver thing,
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, real, John Wilkes grew is super fucking tall,
Speaker 3: but this body that they found is like five to two, right,
Speaker 3: But the general public is not gonna know that. Nobody
Speaker 3: knows how tall John Wilkes boot. This is like that's
Speaker 3: that's like obscure information.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And and when I got to looking into that, like
Speaker 9: I said, I found a couple of theories that show
Speaker 9: that he lived, you know, like forty years after this incident.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And there's a couple of them. There's, of course
Speaker 9: there's a bunch, but there was a couple that really
Speaker 9: like grabbed me and it was like, man, this is
Speaker 9: this is plausible to me. And a lot of people
Speaker 9: got to wrap their minds around the eighteen hundreds. Man,
Speaker 9: there was no internet, there was no telephone. All you
Speaker 9: had was eyewitness statements on people and drawings of wanted papers.
Speaker 9: News didn't travel fast. It would be very easy for
Speaker 9: you to fake your death and slip away into oblivion.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think, just very easy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, people did it all the time.
Speaker 2: M hm. And this guy what I found I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Well, I was just saying, do you know, like it
Speaker 3: for what he like changed his name to, or like
Speaker 3: anything like that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there were several And like I said, the one
Speaker 9: that I found out I thought was really compelling was
Speaker 9: right here.
Speaker 2: It says that.
Speaker 9: A ninety year old woman. This is you know, hundreds
Speaker 9: of years later, but it says this nine year old
Speaker 9: woman named Juanita Kelly. She was a living relative of
Speaker 9: Louisa Payne, and she decided to spill the family secret.
Speaker 9: And she said, quote, my grandmother's sister married John Wilkes Booth,
Speaker 9: but they were already married when he revealed his true identity.
Speaker 9: And she went on to say that the name Booth
Speaker 9: was going by at the time was John Saint Helen
Speaker 9: and said shortly after they were married, Booth came clean
Speaker 9: to his wife, Louisa, and she was so flabbergasted, being
Speaker 9: the Christian woman that she was, she demanded that they
Speaker 9: go back and read and refile under the correct name.
Speaker 9: And according to Franklin County, Tennessee, their court record show
Speaker 9: in the marriage registry that John Wilkes Booth married Louisa
Speaker 9: Payne with his signature on it matching from February twenty fourth,
Speaker 9: eighteen seventy two. And that's seven years after the supposed assassination.
Speaker 3: Pussy, you'll do that to you? Make you go back
Speaker 3: and fucking redo your name after you've assassinated the president?
Speaker 5: Like, come one, that right?
Speaker 3: Got come on?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 9: And when I seen that, I was like, oh my gosh, okay.
Speaker 9: So now I followed this thread because it was in Tennessee.
Speaker 9: I was like, oh man, this is home court here.
Speaker 9: I gotta kind of look this out. But it said
Speaker 9: that this was a closely held family secret until Kelly
Speaker 9: came forward. When she was asked why she was coming
Speaker 9: forward now, she said it was not talked about outside
Speaker 9: the family. She said, but I'm coming forward now, because
Speaker 9: I'm ninety years old. And besides, all the people that
Speaker 9: would have gotten into trouble.
Speaker 2: Over it are long gone now.
Speaker 9: So after they got married, they moved off to Memphis
Speaker 9: to start their new life together, and it says that
Speaker 9: Luisa became homesick after a few months and that she
Speaker 9: wanted to go back home, and that Booth told her,
Speaker 9: We'll go ahead, go on in front of me. I'll
Speaker 9: stay behind. I'll work a little more, save some money,
Speaker 9: and I'll come back to Middle Tennessee and we'll buy
Speaker 9: some land and build a house and we'll start our
Speaker 9: new lives together. Just go on ahead of me. And
Speaker 9: so she goes back home, but Booth never returns, and
Speaker 9: he ends up going to Texas according to this storyline,
Speaker 9: and befriends this guy Phineas Bates, who's a lawyer, and
Speaker 9: his great granddaughter has his records and the family stories
Speaker 9: that he befriended this John Saint Helen and that he
Speaker 9: becomes sick and on his deathbed confessed to Bates that
Speaker 9: he was John Wilkes Booth, and he wanted to come
Speaker 9: clean before he died and wanted him to know.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 9: He ended up making it through the night. He didn't die,
Speaker 9: but when Bates went back to check on him, he
Speaker 9: was gone. He packed up and left, and they said.
Speaker 9: It was a few years later that Bates had seen
Speaker 9: an obituary in the I think it was Oneida, Oklahoma paper,
Speaker 9: and it had the name of John Saint Helen and
Speaker 9: it matched his how old he was, and everything else.
Speaker 9: So he wanted to see if this was him. So
Speaker 9: he travels up to Oklahoma and goes to the mortuary
Speaker 9: where he was being held, and the mortuary said, ohe
Speaker 9: you his family, He's like, no, I believe he's a
Speaker 9: friend of mine, but I wanted to come and be sure.
Speaker 9: And he said, well, come and identify the body, because
Speaker 9: nobody's come forward to claim the body or identify it,
Speaker 9: so you're the only person we got, so come look
Speaker 9: at him and verify who this is. And Bates went
Speaker 9: in and he said, without you know, any kind of
Speaker 9: second thought or hesitation, that this is John Saint Helen.
Speaker 9: And then when he got to talking to some of
Speaker 9: the people that found his body and everything that he
Speaker 9: once again thought he was dying and confessed to the
Speaker 9: people there that he was, in fact John Wilkes Booth
Speaker 9: and that he supposedly killed himself by drinking arsenic, and
Speaker 9: the arsenic they didn't know what it was. They just
Speaker 9: thought he, you know, he died. They found out later
Speaker 9: because when they embalmbed the guy mixed with that arsenic,
Speaker 9: it petrified and mummified him. So it perfectly preserved him,
Speaker 9: froze him in time, and nobody would take the body,
Speaker 9: so it was given to Bates, and Bates takes it
Speaker 9: home and puts it in his garage and then he
Speaker 9: tries to even sell it to people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's interesting with the tump on the sucker of
Speaker 5: the house. Yeah.
Speaker 9: And he tries to sell the corpse, the mummy to
Speaker 9: people and says, oh, this is the famous John Wokes booth.
Speaker 9: And he even almost sold it to Henry Ford. He
Speaker 9: prized it to Henry Ford for one thousand dollars and
Speaker 9: he almost bought it, but he backed out last minute.
Speaker 9: So Phineas Bates dies with this petrified mummy in his garage.
Speaker 9: So when he died, Yeah, his wife.
Speaker 7: Tries about the name baits Man.
Speaker 9: Yeah exactly, and she ends up selling it to a
Speaker 9: traveling carnival like a freak show.
Speaker 2: And this body toward.
Speaker 9: The United States, and you can see like a quarter
Speaker 9: all the way up till like the nineteen seventies, and
Speaker 9: it suddenly disappeared, never to be seen again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just they strung lights up on him and
Speaker 3: decorated him like a Christmas tree, Like what a fuck?
Speaker 2: Twenty five cents?
Speaker 9: Come see that John Wilkes Booth who faked his death
Speaker 9: and lived many years after.
Speaker 3: So he was mummified, sold to a circus, But we're
Speaker 3: not allowed to dig up the cadaver body, Like how
Speaker 3: is this okay? How is it okay to have a
Speaker 3: human mummy in your house and sell it to a
Speaker 3: circus but we can't exhume the grave?
Speaker 5: Like what the fuck?
Speaker 3: This is so sacrilegious? Anyways?
Speaker 6: Are we sure this isn't the myth of Osiris? Are
Speaker 6: we getting a little bit of a you know, masotic
Speaker 6: mythology here, because yeah, this has sounded really strange, like
Speaker 6: almost like each one of these phases are planned out
Speaker 6: and mythologized in some way.
Speaker 3: You know, So what did they do like after the
Speaker 3: circus act or whatever they just used him for like
Speaker 3: firewood or something like did they ever bury.
Speaker 9: The corpse or what disappeared? They don't know what happened
Speaker 9: to it.
Speaker 3: Disappeared Ethan's firewood.
Speaker 7: Maybe, Yeah, they grounded him.
Speaker 3: Up and turned him into toilet paper or something.
Speaker 6: Right, But it wasn't cocaine in the in the White
Speaker 6: House when they found it. That was actually John Wilkes,
Speaker 6: all ground up and they were sniffing it.
Speaker 3: That'll get you high every time, but it'll give you
Speaker 3: a pain in your left leg for some reason.
Speaker 9: Yeah, not the right one. And another one that I
Speaker 9: found that was really interesting was that he supposedly stole
Speaker 9: the identity. So this was modern day identity or I
Speaker 9: misspoke ancient identity theft. But he stole the identity of
Speaker 9: an englishman and uh, you go down here and his name.
Speaker 2: John Saint Helen.
Speaker 9: Oh, and I forgot to mention when he moved off
Speaker 9: to Oklahoma, he had changed his name and went by
Speaker 9: David E.
Speaker 7: George.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it appears to be a code. Two of
Speaker 9: Booth's conspirators were David Harold and George E. Azerot, So
Speaker 9: it's like he took the two names of his buddies
Speaker 9: that combined them there. But let's see, okay, Yeah, like
Speaker 9: you guys had mentioned in nineteen ninety four, they petitioned,
Speaker 9: petitioned to have his remains exhumed, to have DNA testing
Speaker 9: to put all this stuff to bed, because there's a
Speaker 9: lot of people that come forward and said that they
Speaker 9: were children of Booth from relations outside of marriage while
Speaker 9: he was on the run but supposedly dead, and so
Speaker 9: they wanted to do the DNA testing to put this
Speaker 9: to bed. And at first the judge agreed, and then
Speaker 9: later someone unknown petitioned and talked to the judge and
Speaker 9: then he changed his mind and he pulled the whole
Speaker 9: thing being done. But Chuck Hubert, he was a John
Speaker 9: Wills Booth researcher. When here's why, saying he claimed to
Speaker 9: pull off what we'd call identity theft today.
Speaker 2: He stole the.
Speaker 9: Identity of an Englishman that was visiting Indiana at the time,
Speaker 9: and he was named John B. Wilkes, so very similar.
Speaker 9: But he was born in Sheffield, England in eighteen twenty two.
Speaker 9: But there he stole his identity and went to India
Speaker 9: and remained there until his death in eighteen eighty three.
Speaker 9: Chuck also believes Booth returned to the United States in
Speaker 9: eighteen seventy three and was photographed and they have a
Speaker 9: photograph of John B. Wilkes during that last visit, and
Speaker 9: it looks identical to Booth and I have that picture too.
Speaker 2: Let's check that out images.
Speaker 6: That sounds like that's the Golden Circle ship because he's
Speaker 6: down there in South America.
Speaker 7: Well, and just think he had being an actor.
Speaker 8: He man, sorry, I can't even talk when I read that.
Speaker 7: Damn. What was they saying?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 7: Because he was a good actor and he.
Speaker 8: Could do an English accent, So I mean, I guess
Speaker 8: he could probably pull that off.
Speaker 5: I mean, even being the actor. Yeah, I mean how
Speaker 5: could he get? Of course you can.
Speaker 3: So what are we looking at right here?
Speaker 9: That that is the two guys that the John Wilkes
Speaker 9: Booth and John B.
Speaker 2: Wilkes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see this is like the.
Speaker 2: I lied to you. That is the other.
Speaker 7: Guy person between John Wilkes is on the left and
Speaker 7: the other guy the.
Speaker 2: Lloyd James Boyd.
Speaker 7: James Boyd was on the rest one. Uh So what happened?
Speaker 6: Did James Boyd not have any friends or family or
Speaker 6: did they not notice he was gone?
Speaker 3: He was an unsavory fucker if nobody noticed.
Speaker 9: What happened during all this time. They've even documented It's
Speaker 9: in the records. He was a Confederate soldier and he
Speaker 9: was captured and was a prisoner of war and they
Speaker 9: petitioned to have him released and he was just recently released.
Speaker 9: And that's that was the last documentation that they had
Speaker 9: of the guy. Was right around this time of the
Speaker 9: assassination that he was set free. But that's that's the
Speaker 9: guy from the Englishman.
Speaker 3: They all have the same like mustache and receding hairline
Speaker 3: thing going on.
Speaker 9: Well, and British look like Mark, mystic Mark from my
Speaker 9: family thinks of John Will.
Speaker 6: So the British connection really interests me because you know
Speaker 6: a lot of people say that the British were bankrolling
Speaker 6: the South and that they they were invested in the
Speaker 6: nights of the Golden Circle idea just kind of break
Speaker 6: up the Union.
Speaker 5: Ye.
Speaker 6: So if he's if he's throwing his lot in with
Speaker 6: the British and going by this British accent and everything else,
Speaker 6: that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's the thing. He had the money and
Speaker 9: the ties of the Golden Circle. And you got to
Speaker 9: remember this is another rabbit trail, but it kind of
Speaker 9: ties in was the Confederates. They had their capital up
Speaker 9: there in Richmond, right, there on the border of the
Speaker 9: North Well the last stand.
Speaker 2: Robert E.
Speaker 9: Lee was trying to hold him back, and he told Davis,
Speaker 9: you know, it's a losing battle. It's just a matter
Speaker 9: of time before they get past our men and they
Speaker 9: hit the capitol. So Davis told him, just buy me
Speaker 9: twenty four hours. Give me twenty four hours to get
Speaker 9: my cabinet out and to save the treasury. And it
Speaker 9: was documented in today's money there was two hundred million
Speaker 9: dollars in the Confederate treasury. So he gave him twenty
Speaker 9: four hours, and he loaded up nine trains with his
Speaker 9: cabinet and all of the money and started heading south.
Speaker 9: And here's where you get this quote unquote conspiracy. Now,
Speaker 9: this is all happening at the same time with the
Speaker 9: John Wills booth stuff. Okay, they stop off in North
Speaker 9: Carolina and they have a log. Well don't quote me
Speaker 9: on the number, but when they stopped in North Carolina,
Speaker 9: they stopped off for a minute and then traveled further south.
Speaker 9: But the logs reflect that there was the equivalent of
Speaker 9: like twenty million dollars gone that got unloaded there. Then
Speaker 9: they go down into Georgia, they make another stop once
Speaker 9: again here's another forty or fifty million dollars missing from
Speaker 9: the log book. So it's like every stop they took
Speaker 9: it kept dwindling down, dwindling down, and that they finally
Speaker 9: make it to their destination and they deposit the money
Speaker 9: into this bank. And the deposit note was for I
Speaker 9: want to say, to the equivalent today of like fifty
Speaker 9: million dollars. So there was one hundred and fifty million
Speaker 9: dollars missing from this ride. And they say that he
Speaker 9: handed it over to members of the Knights of the
Speaker 9: Golden Circle and they hid it all over the country
Speaker 9: as stashus because they said they wanted to have another
Speaker 9: enough money put back for when the South rose again,
Speaker 9: they'd have enough money to have an army. And then
Speaker 9: you have all these treasure hunters to this day talking
Speaker 9: about the mystery glyphs all over the world. Even Jesse
Speaker 9: James is tied into this.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 9: You find all of these symbols and coded language that
Speaker 9: is known to be associated with the Knights of the
Speaker 9: Golden Circle and its treasure maps leading to all these stashes.
Speaker 9: Is the is the tail. So they had all this money,
Speaker 9: it would be nothing for them to shell out some
Speaker 9: money to send somebody that's helped them and it's a
Speaker 9: brother of theirs to start a new life in India.
Speaker 6: Well, all over Missouri they have caves that they claim
Speaker 6: Jesse James Stash is golden or stashing the money. But
Speaker 6: you know that that whole thing really smacks of the
Speaker 6: Knight's Templar, because if you know about Oak Island, you
Speaker 6: know they've got these huge treasure vaults and you know
Speaker 6: this whole treasure Train and all the rest of the
Speaker 6: stuff about the South Rising and grind very very similar
Speaker 6: to that. And just recently they took down the Roberty
Speaker 6: Lee statue and inside of it was a time capsule
Speaker 6: and you could you could watch on the videos on
Speaker 6: live video, this woman is going through all the artifacts
Speaker 6: inside of this time capsule and she pulls out a
Speaker 6: postcard by the Knight's Templar inside of the Roberty Lee
Speaker 6: statue and she she lifts it up and you could
Speaker 6: audibly hear her say, oh, no, is it not supposed
Speaker 6: to talk about that? You know there it is right
Speaker 6: there in the baskit here.
Speaker 3: What she knows.
Speaker 6: She does the mythology, and she doesn't want to get
Speaker 6: bogged out with that because again this is one of
Speaker 6: the oldest conspiracies in the United States.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. And this also sounds like the plot for
Speaker 3: National Treasure two.
Speaker 9: Uh, because one of the main consultants for that movie
Speaker 9: was Bob Brewer, and he's a world famous treasure hunter
Speaker 9: and you know what, he's famous for hunting and finding
Speaker 9: these treasure troves from the Knights of the Golden Circle.
Speaker 9: He's the expert on all these temples and stuff, and
Speaker 9: so National Treasure reached out to him and he was
Speaker 9: a consultant for that show.
Speaker 7: Well, you've got so you brought up Oak Island.
Speaker 8: The guys in Oak Island were also looking for the uh,
Speaker 8: one of the stashes of Confederate gold that allegedly h
Speaker 8: thank in Lake Michigan, like some of the barges or something.
Speaker 8: So that's that's a pretty crazy one. It was a
Speaker 8: deathbed confession and all kinds of stuff going on there.
Speaker 8: It's a crazy story too.
Speaker 9: Anyway, they caught them sentinels because the money they give
Speaker 9: the tropes to these guys, and they caught them sentinels
Speaker 9: and they were to guard this with their life. And
Speaker 9: then when they died, you know, or it was close
Speaker 9: to dying, they would have to pass it to another sentinel,
Speaker 9: which was their son or something like that. And you know,
Speaker 9: it's a good possibility that some of these kids would
Speaker 9: be like, I don't believe it's junk, or I ain't
Speaker 9: doing that, and they wentn't thinking, you know, because when
Speaker 9: they were making these carvings in these stones and in
Speaker 9: these trees, because they've done a lot of them in trees,
Speaker 9: it's been you know, one hundred years, one hundred and
Speaker 9: fifty years. Those trees that were once eye level are
Speaker 9: now way up here and you can't even see them anymore.
Speaker 9: But to corroborate that whole story with him going to India,
Speaker 9: there's a lot of people say, oh, you can just
Speaker 9: make up anything, but there's a document trail with that one.
Speaker 2: Also.
Speaker 9: When he died in eighteen eighty three, this was eighteen
Speaker 9: years after his supposed death. He was executed in India
Speaker 9: for a crime. But before they killed him, they allowed
Speaker 9: him to leave a last will and testament. And in
Speaker 9: the will and testament, I'll read you some of the
Speaker 9: stuff here and why I kind of told you is
Speaker 9: a little bit about this pre roll. But in his
Speaker 9: will it says twenty five thousand dollars to oga Rita
Speaker 9: Rosalie Wilkes, and it says in quotation natural air of
Speaker 9: my body. She was Boost's daughter by his wife Azola.
Speaker 9: Then another twenty yeah, another twenty five thousand dollars to
Speaker 9: marry Louis Turner, and it says, in quotations natural heir
Speaker 9: of my body. This was the daughter of John's mistress
Speaker 9: of the time of Lincoln's murder, Ella Turner. And then
Speaker 9: it says one thousand dollars a year to Henry Johnson,
Speaker 9: quote a free negro, to whom I owe my very life.
Speaker 9: Johnson was Boost's personal valet who helped him escape up
Speaker 9: to Harber's ferry in West Virginia. So why would an
Speaker 9: Englishman living in India care so much for all of
Speaker 9: John Wilkes, Booth's wife's girlfriend's daughters in Vallet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good fucking question. I have a question too, though,
Speaker 3: How do we know that they didn't set this whole
Speaker 3: fucking thing up for the other guy to get shot
Speaker 3: instead of him, Like that was part of the plan
Speaker 3: all along, and Boyd or whatever the fuck his name
Speaker 3: was just didn't know it. He was like an unwilling
Speaker 3: participant in his own death kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have very well been, because you know what.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like for him to have this life
Speaker 3: at well, yeah, because it's like he went on to
Speaker 3: live this kind of exotic life. You know, he's going here, there,
Speaker 3: he's married to this person, that person, changing his name,
Speaker 3: going to India. It's like it was set up for
Speaker 3: him to get away basically, which by the way, I
Speaker 3: do right. But it's like it's like with Oswald. I
Speaker 3: don't think the body that's in the casket that they
Speaker 3: buried and said this is Oswald. I don't even know
Speaker 3: if that's actually Oswald. And it's just like some dude
Speaker 3: that they fucking killed and oh yeah, we got him, guys,
Speaker 3: we shot him instead, like they they fake a lot
Speaker 3: of this stuff, even going back to you know, Civil
Speaker 3: War days, I still think they were faking people's death
Speaker 3: and ship and fucking covering stuff up. So I mean
Speaker 3: just saying goods.
Speaker 9: And it was proven on a lot of them that
Speaker 9: they were freaking their desk back then, because like we
Speaker 9: said earlier, you know, it was very easy during this
Speaker 9: death like six times.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one thing I keep coming back to is how
Speaker 6: lit it would be to be on a conspiracy podcast
Speaker 6: in the eighteen seventies. The holy fuck they had all
Speaker 6: the good ship back then.
Speaker 3: Did you guys watch Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter?
Speaker 7: I did. It's quite entertainment.
Speaker 5: I liked it.
Speaker 7: It was quite entertaining. Are you telling me it's a
Speaker 7: fucking president? Damn, that's it? A vampires.
Speaker 3: What we don't know is part of the John Wilkes
Speaker 3: boost story is that they were actually all hunting fucking vampires. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, I actually really liked that movie. Every time
Speaker 3: I ask somebody if they watched it, they asked me
Speaker 3: if I'm retarded or something like, it's like, why would
Speaker 3: you even watch something called Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter? But
Speaker 3: it's actually really good, and they color is.
Speaker 7: Really cool with him sitting in that.
Speaker 3: Chair, right, yeah, and he's got like his axe and yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that he did live a double life.
Speaker 3: Though I don't know if he was a fucking vampire hunter,
Speaker 3: but I do think he led a double life. Lincoln,
Speaker 3: did I think that this whole thing? Probably?
Speaker 5: I mean, he like giant hole.
Speaker 3: He just likes to get it plugged.
Speaker 2: We always come back to this.
Speaker 6: Sleep as another dude.
Speaker 7: Didn't there's actually some of the times headless.
Speaker 9: Probably, but I had a friends see me a reel today.
Speaker 9: It said more proof that the giants are real, and
Speaker 9: it showed these guys like in his ship pulling up
Speaker 9: something from the bottom of the ocean and it was
Speaker 9: a huge like iron butt plug.
Speaker 3: Literally literally. Yeah, but didn't the Lincoln Sun die weird too,
Speaker 3: like at a young age or something like that. And
Speaker 3: there's like some weird to stuff around. Yeah. See, that's
Speaker 3: that comes from the weird nuffle and bloodline, those those
Speaker 3: blood disorders and the you know but stuff.
Speaker 9: Yeah, extra fingers, genetical malfunctions.
Speaker 7: I actually know a guy who has six toes.
Speaker 5: Oh you know.
Speaker 2: I six fingers.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was told the extra digits remove the plastic surgeries
Speaker 5: a lot more common than.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well I want another blood type too, would.
Speaker 3: You say about the blood type?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so they're probably all our H negative Oh.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I mean I think I heard something about
Speaker 3: oh negative being significant to you. Yeah, it could be
Speaker 3: like the royal family kind of covets the o nags.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, because it's a it's just a who knows.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's a whole other episode.
Speaker 3: I do have suspicions though about Lincoln. I mean, like
Speaker 3: his weird height, and like the seances and ship at
Speaker 3: that White House, their kid wife.
Speaker 7: Really a lot of weird stuff too.
Speaker 6: The Lincoln monument, I mean, they make him super huge.
Speaker 6: They put him in this Roman style temple at the
Speaker 6: end of this reflecting pool.
Speaker 2: Like there's almost right, there's.
Speaker 6: Something really religious about that place, and they were going
Speaker 6: for something that it was an ancient religion with the
Speaker 6: entire layout of Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: So having made him a giant, as if symbolism wasn't
Speaker 3: enough for them, they have to like came and make
Speaker 3: him a giant that looks over everybody. And it's you know.
Speaker 7: Sitting there looking down water. I can't even say it,
Speaker 7: do you do?
Speaker 6: You know the significance of that reflecting pool.
Speaker 2: It's imagine a while, well.
Speaker 6: It could be, but yeah, there's there's high, high level
Speaker 6: of goddess magicing on there. So during the ancient Roman days,
Speaker 6: they had this place called the Diana's Mirror, right, this
Speaker 6: was the district for Diana, and they had this big
Speaker 6: reflecting pool and this is talked about James George Fraser's
Speaker 6: Golden Bow. This was where they would have the Golden
Speaker 6: Bow ritual where they would have the death of a
Speaker 6: king ritual, right, and so Diana Nemorensis was the name
Speaker 6: of the goddess there. And this Diana Nemorensis ritual would
Speaker 6: take place where a escaped slave or you know, some
Speaker 6: other prisoner would go to this grove and then pull
Speaker 6: a bough off at the top of the tree, and
Speaker 6: then the old king of the grove would have to
Speaker 6: fight this new guy, and whoever killed the other one
Speaker 6: would become the new king of the grove.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: And what we see in Washington, DC, is we've got
Speaker 6: this statue on top of the Capitol Building, which is
Speaker 6: highly emblematic of kind of this Diana Artemis character.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: So we've got Diana Artemis right there on top of this,
Speaker 6: you know, Isis's belly right in front of the Washington Monument,
Speaker 6: which is clearly a penis. And then you've got the great, big,
Speaker 6: old reflecting pool right there, which is part of this
Speaker 6: Diana Nemorensis ritual with the sacrificed king of the grove
Speaker 6: at the other end of it.
Speaker 2: Mmm. Wow, I've not heard that.
Speaker 9: I always heard like it was kind of like an
Speaker 9: imitation of the Egyptian magic, like how the pharaohs were
Speaker 9: the embodiment of the all of Tyrus, and how they
Speaker 9: had that ritual where they would bring him into the temple,
Speaker 9: and then when the shadow of the obulisk went into
Speaker 9: the domed temple where the pharaoh was, it was a conception,
Speaker 9: and therefore Osiris was born into his body and kind
Speaker 9: of possessed him, and he came out the god king.
Speaker 9: And that's while we have that whole presidential thing that
Speaker 9: you know, he meets in that womb and they have
Speaker 9: their you know, consults, but then he moves from there
Speaker 9: to the stage in front of that phallus and gives
Speaker 9: his speech and stuff. So it was kind of like,
Speaker 9: I've always heard that that's a like a remake of that.
Speaker 9: I hadn't heard that that's wild.
Speaker 6: In this book, The Golden Ass, this is a second
Speaker 6: century Latin sort of like a pulp book that they
Speaker 6: had fiction back then, right, So this is really old.
Speaker 6: He goes back to that time period. They still have
Speaker 6: the cults of Isis and Osiris active in the second century, right,
Speaker 6: so this stuff was not foreign to that time period.
Speaker 6: They're depicting in Washington, DC. Right, They had all of
Speaker 6: those cults sort of merge into organizations like the Freemasons,
Speaker 6: the Knights, Templar, all these other you know, sort of
Speaker 6: secret societies kept that stuff moving, and those are the
Speaker 6: people who founded America.
Speaker 7: M hm yeah.
Speaker 5: And then there's all that stuff like.
Speaker 7: See somebody, do.
Speaker 3: You think like, sorry, do you think like Lincoln actually
Speaker 3: was assassinated to like just in my opinion, my humble opinion.
Speaker 3: You guys can disagree with me. I think a lot
Speaker 3: of this stuff, even back then, is like fake and staged.
Speaker 3: I mean literally an actor shot him, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. It just makes me wonder if he even
Speaker 3: is dead at all, because there's like this he became
Speaker 3: like almost like saint like after his death and honest
Speaker 3: dabe and all this, and he was actually like a
Speaker 3: pretty unsavor motherfucker, Like he wasn't like this stand up
Speaker 3: guy that he's made out to be, but in death
Speaker 3: he's kind of like become this you know, honest abe
Speaker 3: and he was so great and all this stuff.
Speaker 9: Once you died, you're so great then, you know, right, right,
Speaker 9: that's the point.
Speaker 6: That's the point of the ritual, right is it makes
Speaker 6: everybody sad, and it lionizes the victim, and it changes
Speaker 6: the trajectory of history, you know. And if you have
Speaker 6: you ever heard of King Kill thirty three, this is
Speaker 6: a popular one back of the late seventies, but I
Speaker 6: think it was all about how the Freemasons were the
Speaker 6: ones who killed Kennedy, going along with this King Kill
Speaker 6: thirty three ritual, which comes directly out of the Golden
Speaker 6: Bough by J. G. Fraser. So they're talking about that
Speaker 6: back then. And then you look at the architecture of Washington,
Speaker 6: DC and how it matches up with all of these
Speaker 6: different factors that are going on, like especially the Virginia flag. Right,
Speaker 6: You've got this woman with her breast exposed, she's standing
Speaker 6: on top of a guy saying, thus always the tyrants,
Speaker 6: and that was made way way way back in the day.
Speaker 6: But like that same sort of spirit is carried through
Speaker 6: through this assassination. There's a definite callback to some of
Speaker 6: the earliest times in American history going through these different characters.
Speaker 2: Because that's exactly what he's said.
Speaker 3: The U the UH like look at these two assassinations, right,
Speaker 3: Lincoln and JFK. Before JFK, and there's a quote by
Speaker 3: Lyndon B. Johnson, and he was like, oh, we'll have
Speaker 3: those inwards voting democrat from you guys know the quote.
Speaker 3: Right before that, it was like everybody kind of held
Speaker 3: Lincoln up as this like savior of the slaves and
Speaker 3: he free and you know, it was like, everybody vote
Speaker 3: Republican because he's the one who freed us. And then
Speaker 3: it was like JFK also assassinated, and then Lyndon B.
Speaker 3: Johnson's like, we'll have those inwards voting democrat from here
Speaker 3: on out or something. It's like some weird cultural shift.
Speaker 3: But both are marked by huge assassinations that changed history forever.
Speaker 3: So are they really dead? I don't know. Is it
Speaker 3: like an agenda to like push narratives and make people
Speaker 3: saint like? Because JFK is also like saint like after
Speaker 3: he died.
Speaker 6: Also, these events are also accompanied by Communism. There's a
Speaker 6: lot of Marxism that goes in and around these characters. Like,
Speaker 6: you know, Lincoln was writing to Karl Marx like this
Speaker 6: was the start of what Marxism was. Is their whole
Speaker 6: exchange back and forth. And then what we see in
Speaker 6: the nineteen sixties going on with all the hippie movement
Speaker 6: and all the communism and liberalism, that these are revolutions
Speaker 6: that are taking place. We're just sick from the outside
Speaker 6: instead of looking at the whole picture.
Speaker 9: Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that the Civil War,
Speaker 9: like I said, it wasn't over slavery. It was over
Speaker 9: a kingly tyrant forest. There was one section of the
Speaker 9: country with a bunch of rich elites that was controlling
Speaker 9: the destiny of America, and the Southern state stood up
Speaker 9: and try to rebel, and they squashed him back into submission.
Speaker 9: I told a buddy at work I was talking about this.
Speaker 9: I said, imagine if you had a girlfriend and you
Speaker 9: guys were together and happy, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: she comes home and says, you know, she's unhappy, she
Speaker 9: doesn't want to be with you anymore, and leaves. That's
Speaker 9: kind of what happened here. But then the boyfriend goes after,
Speaker 9: smacks her around, blacks both of her eyes and bloodies
Speaker 9: her her mouth, knocks her few teeth out, and drags
Speaker 9: her back home. And now we're going to live all together,
Speaker 9: peacefully and happily.
Speaker 7: For sometime.
Speaker 2: How does that work?
Speaker 6: Really well? I think what really kicked it off was
Speaker 6: Fort Sumter, because they're saying, look, you can have this
Speaker 6: union for it in the South. This has got to go. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and they didn't want to go and they're like, you
Speaker 6: got to get the fuck out of here. So they
Speaker 6: attacked Fort Sumter back before Abraham Lincoln and nothing happened.
Speaker 6: So they thought they could do it again and nothing
Speaker 6: would happen again. But that's what kicked off the whole thing.
Speaker 6: And you know, people were out there at bull Run
Speaker 6: actually picnicking over the battlegrounds because they thought, oh, well,
Speaker 6: this is just gonna be a short thing. We'll go
Speaker 6: out and see the battle and it'll all be over
Speaker 6: with soon. But it wasn't, and it just kept escalating
Speaker 6: and escalating. People didn't want to believe that it was
Speaker 6: actually starting.
Speaker 9: Yeah, in the Civil War. That was the the death
Speaker 9: of the Republic as we know it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So John Wilkes Booth's descendants or whatever, he had some kids, right, like,
Speaker 3: how do you like, did they know? And if they knew,
Speaker 3: how do you even tell people that? Like you go
Speaker 3: to school and you're like, Mike, he killed Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 3: Like how do you keep that a secret? I mean,
Speaker 3: that's did do you think that they knew?
Speaker 9: I think that it was just I mean that was
Speaker 9: information didn't travel so far back then, but that was
Speaker 9: you know, big news the president, you know, in the
Speaker 9: Civil War.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they just went to.
Speaker 9: Home school or what, but definitely that the descendants were
Speaker 9: not proud of it, like the great great grandchildren, that
Speaker 9: that was something that was like the family secret and taboo.
Speaker 7: Talk about the time. They were probably like.
Speaker 8: Kind of, you know, my dad killed the you know,
Speaker 8: especially if they were from down.
Speaker 7: South, probably probably revered a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, Jesse James.
Speaker 9: He was a hero to the you know, the lower
Speaker 9: class Cistance because they made him out to be the
Speaker 9: Robin Hood. So according to where he's at, some people
Speaker 9: love Jesse James.
Speaker 7: Maybe some of the kids.
Speaker 6: Well, guys, I got something to confess. I'm actually John
Speaker 6: Wilkes Booth.
Speaker 7: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: So now you guys believe me. Why would why would
Speaker 6: they believe that back then?
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody, I see, I see where you're going
Speaker 3: with that. That's very true. I mean you could say
Speaker 3: anything right like, it's hard to believe that, especially back then.
Speaker 3: It's not like there was a conspiracy theory podcast you
Speaker 3: could listen to if somebody said, like, my dad's John
Speaker 3: Wilkes Booth. They'd be like, okay, what kind of.
Speaker 7: Started screaming about be holes.
Speaker 9: Adjusting the documentary, and somebody threw up the possibility. They said,
Speaker 9: you know, well, what if or how easy would it be?
Speaker 9: You know, John Wilkes Booth in the South was a
Speaker 9: hero to a lot of the Southern people, and he
Speaker 9: was already a famous actor. He was a handsome guy.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 9: They said the ladies just kind of swooned over him,
Speaker 9: that he had, you know, these dark eyes and could
Speaker 9: you know, manipulate people and kind of put a spell
Speaker 9: on people. He was just, you know, really charismatic guy.
Speaker 9: How tempting would it be for a young man, uh
Speaker 9: to go down south and tell some girl that's totally
Speaker 9: out of his league, like, hey, he may not realize
Speaker 9: it or not, but I'm kind of a big deal.
Speaker 9: You didn't know it, knock up a bunch of girls
Speaker 9: and leave town. And they're like, oh, yeah, I met
Speaker 9: John Wills Booth, I.
Speaker 5: Had his baby.
Speaker 6: Yeah, who's reading the medical report that says that he
Speaker 6: broke the wrong leg?
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Robert May I think was his name.
Speaker 8: So somebody in the comments, some of me to comment
Speaker 8: about Pascal Beverly Randolph Boom and dude, if you just
Speaker 8: telling everybody out there if he has known who that is, wow,
Speaker 8: that's a freaking rabbit hole.
Speaker 7: The good there.
Speaker 6: He brought sex magic to America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, And you're saying Wilkes or uh Abraham Lincoln
Speaker 3: was friends with this person.
Speaker 8: Right, Somebody on there said that that Lincoln was, but
Speaker 8: I could find them. I couldn't find any links. But
Speaker 8: you know that doesn't mean it. I'm not like some
Speaker 8: you know, wizard or something that can.
Speaker 6: Well he went on to make Beverly Hall right, Beverly
Speaker 6: Hall up.
Speaker 8: And yeah, there's definitely some overlap there. But whether or
Speaker 8: not they actually knew each other, I don't know, but
Speaker 8: there's definitely some overlap, especially when you get in that
Speaker 8: they were in the same circles. And I mean both
Speaker 8: Lincoln and his wife were deeply curious about spiritualism and
Speaker 8: stuff like that because of their the tragedy with their
Speaker 8: son and other shit.
Speaker 9: So I mean, look, I remember reading somewhere his wife,
Speaker 9: well I think one he's kind of alluded to it,
Speaker 9: but I have not looked looked into it. But I've
Speaker 9: heard more than one place that she was kind of
Speaker 9: a she was kind of witchy. Yeah, was known to
Speaker 9: contact the dead and.
Speaker 2: All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 8: Really because he was she was trying to contact her son.
Speaker 8: I think was a lot of the driver for us.
Speaker 8: But that's all it takes.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 8: But Lincoln was also known to have like prophetic dreams
Speaker 8: as well. It's another story that I that I see
Speaker 8: in there a lot, and I think there's a story
Speaker 8: of him having a dream weeks prior to his assassination
Speaker 8: that he was going to get assassinated and how it
Speaker 8: was done like he dreamt it.
Speaker 6: He was at his own funeral and he was asking
Speaker 6: people about who was right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a Daniel Davy Crockett, you know, the
Speaker 9: famous Tennessee pioneer. Yeah, from my state. I did a
Speaker 9: show with the doctor Judd Burton back and I did
Speaker 9: not know this, and I felt ashamed because he was
Speaker 9: from my state. But when I was writing my book,
Speaker 9: you know, he was like, hey, did you know that
Speaker 9: two of your pioneer heroes from Tennessee had big Foot encounters?
Speaker 9: He said, Davy Crockett and Daniel Brim Daniel I had one,
Speaker 9: And I said, no, I didn't. He did a show
Speaker 9: with me, and he was saying that Davy Crockett when
Speaker 9: he went to Texas to fight at the Alamo. On
Speaker 9: the way there, he said that Harry a humanoid human.
Speaker 9: That's how he described it in his letter, because he
Speaker 9: wrote a letter back home and described this Harry, you know,
Speaker 9: covered in Harry human approached him and spoke with him
Speaker 9: and said, Davy Crockett, go home, go back to Tennessee.
Speaker 9: You will find nothing but death here. And he actually
Speaker 9: wrote that in his letter and sent it home. He said,
Speaker 9: maybe I ate some bad meat or something, but I
Speaker 9: saw this, and then he went on to text is
Speaker 9: to die.
Speaker 6: This is what a lot of Native Americans say about
Speaker 6: the Bigfoot, is that they're messengers, right, and whether or
Speaker 6: not you're scared of them or not determines on whether
Speaker 6: or not you're going to get the message. So what
Speaker 6: they'll say is if you if you bring a bigfoot
Speaker 6: encounter to a Native American, they'll be like, yeah, what
Speaker 6: did he tell you? You're like, tell me, no, he
Speaker 6: was just scary and I ran away. But Daniel Boone's
Speaker 6: having the experience where he didn't run, he was calm,
Speaker 6: and then he gets this message that was a prophetic vision,
Speaker 6: so like we probably don't have the Bigfoot thing in
Speaker 6: perspective at all.
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, shameless product placement. So you know, there's tons
Speaker 8: of stories from uh, I mean, dozens of native tribes
Speaker 8: that talk about them trade and communicating and whatnot with you.
Speaker 7: Know, nothing.
Speaker 8: You can't describe it as other than bigfoot. But they
Speaker 8: were in tribes and they just called them. They were
Speaker 8: different another tribe that lived in the area, So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 8: feral giants like the giants, right, I think there.
Speaker 3: Are probably a lot like how people depict the Mothman
Speaker 3: being some kind of harbinger of doom and a messenger
Speaker 3: of whatever. I do have to say though, and you know,
Speaker 3: call me an asshole, but I was listening to this
Speaker 3: like conspiracy radio show the other night and there was
Speaker 3: this old guy on there and he was like, I've
Speaker 3: been to a Bigfoot wedding, and I've seen bigfoots give
Speaker 3: birth and I've seen and it's like I'm sitting here,
Speaker 3: the host of a conspiracy podcast, going this guy's on
Speaker 3: fucking crack, Like there's no way he's like going to
Speaker 3: Bigfoot weddings and like like there's there's too much there's
Speaker 3: like a line.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of.
Speaker 3: You know, because when you tell somebody you have a
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory podcast, they're like, oh yeah, like Bigfoot and
Speaker 3: like Area fifty one and stuff, And I'm like, actually,
Speaker 3: that's like the least that I ever talk about ever.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's you know, I appreciate it when people
Speaker 3: have cool stories to tell about that stuff, But for me,
Speaker 3: it's like it's hard for me to think, like, somebody's
Speaker 3: out there just barbecuing in their backyard and a book.
Speaker 3: Bigfoot walks up and it's like you want to come
Speaker 3: to my wedding, and you know, like I don't. It's
Speaker 3: hard for me to comprehend that. But I do think
Speaker 3: they could be some kind of spiritual being, Like I said,
Speaker 3: a lot like with the moth Man thing. I think
Speaker 3: that they could be like interdimensional type beings. I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know, they're having weddings and just inviting random dudes
Speaker 3: from their backyard.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I know, it's no footage of any of this, right.
Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, exactly videog Sure.
Speaker 5: It's the worse when it's like I've even had that
Speaker 5: happen on my own show where the person's like, I
Speaker 5: can't tell you where it is and we have no
Speaker 5: video of it.
Speaker 6: I'm like, well, I guess he's got pictures of it.
Speaker 6: It's just he had his thumb over the camera lens
Speaker 6: the whole time.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it didn't get backed up onto the cloud.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. But it's like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's just some things are hard for me to wrap
Speaker 3: my brain hole around. But like stuff like what we're
Speaker 3: talking about right now, that's my favorite kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: like serial killers. You know what, was Lincoln actually assassinated
Speaker 3: or not?
Speaker 7: We'll never know John actual vampire hunter?
Speaker 3: Was he an actual vampire hunter. That's just that I
Speaker 3: can get on board with.
Speaker 5: I wanted to. I wanted a selfless plug too. I
Speaker 5: guess it's really not for a product. For an episode
Speaker 5: on Halloween, I will be dropping. Uh, I have a
Speaker 5: vampire Lord, but it's a little bit more of a
Speaker 5: twist on it where I think some of it may
Speaker 5: have at least a vampire that I'm describing in that
Speaker 5: show where I think it may have came from. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: that's right, Ben, And I sent you the script to
Speaker 5: look at yeah, because I wanted you to know what
Speaker 5: the fuck I was talking about because I came on. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: thank you. It's very interesting. Uh, definitely check it out
Speaker 5: when it drops. It's uh, it's one of my theories
Speaker 5: on at least. But all right, sorry, keep keep going,
Speaker 5: Gus mhm. Was there anything else yet? You wanted to
Speaker 5: add anything darker? Pretty much?
Speaker 9: No, that was just kind of like I said, I
Speaker 9: just found this, you know, like two weeks ago, and
Speaker 9: I found those two stories and kind of correlated with
Speaker 9: the Knights of the Golden Circle. But I am diving deeper,
Speaker 9: like I said, I met this guy, uh named Dan.
Speaker 9: He has researched nothing but Jesse James and his seventy
Speaker 9: three aliases and his connections with the Knights of the
Speaker 9: Golden Circle. And I actually he said he come on
Speaker 9: the show and talk with me. But I talked to
Speaker 9: him on the phone just last night. We talked for
Speaker 9: almost two hours.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 9: I love this dude. He's right up my alley. We're
Speaker 9: in the same lane on a lot of stuff. But
Speaker 9: he even told me last night, you know which I
Speaker 9: don't know the story behind it. I'm just going off
Speaker 9: what he said, but he said, yeah, I looked at
Speaker 9: your channel because I seen him an email and then
Speaker 9: he'd give me his number. He said, I see it
Speaker 9: on your channel. You recently done show on John Wilkes
Speaker 9: booth And I said, yeah, I did. And he said,
Speaker 9: you know how he really died?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 9: I said, I've heard a few stories. I said, one
Speaker 9: sounds pretty promising. I said, I wonder if it was
Speaker 9: the Oklahoma arsenic poisoning. And he said, that's what I
Speaker 9: believe it to be. He said, but he didn't commit suicide.
Speaker 9: And I said huh. And he said, Jesse James poisoned
Speaker 9: his drink. He said, because the Knights of the Golden
Speaker 9: Circle knew that the Union and everybody was close on
Speaker 9: his tail. He was about to be apprehended and they
Speaker 9: were afraid he was gonna squeal. So they sent Jesse James,
Speaker 9: because he was there in the area, to go and
Speaker 9: kill John Wills booze our.
Speaker 3: Snick and his drink and turn him into a fucking
Speaker 3: mummified you know, cheeto puff.
Speaker 8: Traveling traveling freak show right to Carneye, who knew well
Speaker 8: Smooth was a Carneye.
Speaker 3: There's a story because I lived in Oklahoma for like
Speaker 3: thirteen years, and there's this story. You can go to
Speaker 3: the grave site and there is actually a haunted bed
Speaker 3: and breakfast, But they tell this story of a guy
Speaker 3: who somehow got mummified and was sold to the circus
Speaker 3: and they hung him up and nobody knew who he
Speaker 3: was and they kind of buried him as like this nameless,
Speaker 3: faceless guy. And I just find it odd that it's
Speaker 3: in Oklahoma. You're talking about Wilkes being in Oklahoma and
Speaker 3: there's this this urban legend about a guy who got
Speaker 3: turned into a mummy and sold to a circus. And
Speaker 3: now I'm thinking it was it fucking John wilkeson.
Speaker 7: That's possible that.
Speaker 3: I'm serious.
Speaker 5: It's like the realist ship.
Speaker 6: Wow, fucking Oklahoma thought from Oklahoma.
Speaker 8: Dam they're crazy, you know, I mean like over half
Speaker 8: or what is it, like.
Speaker 7: Two thirds of Oklahoma's federal land.
Speaker 5: Whoa Yo, I was in prison in Oklahoma. That literally
Speaker 5: was on the ground under an airport. Yo. You went, Yo,
Speaker 5: this is crazy. You went from the fucking plane. You're
Speaker 5: you're shackled with another this is crazy. I don't even first,
Speaker 5: you gotta you get stripped before you can get on
Speaker 5: the fucking plane. So you're naked. They check you, you get
Speaker 5: fucking your ship, you put your clothes on, you get
Speaker 5: connected to somebody else. Now you're on a plane. I
Speaker 5: don't know how the fuck you're picking up anything on
Speaker 5: a plane. You go on a plane, you fly to Oklahoma,
Speaker 5: you get off the thing, and you go straight into
Speaker 5: the fucking ground. Nothing, you're not touching anything, and you
Speaker 5: still gotta get fucking stripped again. How the fuck did
Speaker 5: I pick it from?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 5: You just want to stare at beeholes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: That's part of the reason brings you gotta go.
Speaker 9: And it is the inside job, man, because even the
Speaker 9: conspiracy with Billy the kids, you know, supposedly the guy
Speaker 9: that captured him planted a gun in the outhouse and
Speaker 9: then laughed to go.
Speaker 2: Gather the gallow wood.
Speaker 9: And then when Billy went to the bathroom, he suddenly
Speaker 9: had a gun and killed the guy watching him and escape.
Speaker 2: So maybe they blade to put up your butt.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, But how do you put an entire
Speaker 3: gun in your be hole like that has gotta be
Speaker 3: I think I'd rather shoot myself with it first then
Speaker 3: put it in.
Speaker 9: My twenty five autos, Those little coat twenty five autos,
Speaker 9: they're like that big you know, maybe.
Speaker 3: But do you put it in sideways or do you
Speaker 3: have to? Like, how do you I'm just saying that
Speaker 3: sounds like times how that some kind of fresh fucking hell.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Julia, how do you think in spread all the
Speaker 5: prison they get some of the cell phones in there?
Speaker 3: My god? Is it like an iPhone fifteen? Or is
Speaker 3: it like a gallon.
Speaker 5: Flip?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: But I mean still, I mean, what the fuck? Yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, that's so crazy.
Speaker 5: How much money that is?
Speaker 9: Like a BlackBerry? The BlackBerry slid open and just got wider.
Speaker 5: Quick. Somebody call me, yeah, right, elaborate.
Speaker 3: What we don't know is right before John wilkes booth
Speaker 3: got mummified, he definitely had some stuff shoved into his
Speaker 3: b hole. But we'll we'll never know about that because
Speaker 3: he the circus.
Speaker 6: Yeah course, South, Yes, it did. We're there, Nights of
Speaker 6: the gold Oh you know.
Speaker 5: What brown circle to the Brown Circle, Knights of the
Speaker 5: Golden Balloon, Knut.
Speaker 2: That's that's all, folks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's wrap it up.
Speaker 5: You know, I actually had a serious question. I fucked
Speaker 5: this all up. Uh, and only because I think we've
Speaker 5: had a guess come on about this before I could
Speaker 5: be wrong. Did you have do you have Knights of
Speaker 5: the Golden Horseshoe?
Speaker 2: I have not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's actually pre that's pre American history because that
Speaker 6: was the Knights of the Golden Horsesho came from the
Speaker 6: College of William and Mary, Right, you want to.
Speaker 5: Where it was, like, I gotta get him back on it.
Speaker 6: They went over the mountains, they got really drunk, and
Speaker 6: then they came back with these little pendants and people
Speaker 6: have been searching for the pendants since.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, we had a guest on talk about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Washing Virginia conspiracies I love.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So what popped up was the Knights of the Golden
Speaker 8: Horseshoe were a real but largely symbolic group performed in
Speaker 8: seventeen sixteen by Governor Alexander Spotswood and Colonial Virginia.
Speaker 6: This is the initiation ceremony for all these different dudes.
Speaker 6: This is the start of, you know, reinvigorating the Knights
Speaker 6: Templar in America. I think, because yeah, Knights Templar are
Speaker 6: the horses Knights of the Golden Horseshoe. These are the
Speaker 6: distributed artifacts from that expedition. Sounds very templar.
Speaker 5: All right, all right, yeah, but I think we'll wrap
Speaker 5: it up there though, if you guys all right with
Speaker 5: it actually, and to plug it real quick too. If
Speaker 5: anybody is going to be in Arkansas, Yeah, Saturday and Sunday,
Speaker 5: there's a paranormal expo there. It's at where it's in
Speaker 5: Little Rock, Little Rock, Oakansas at some museum, military museum,
Speaker 5: two floors, two days. Uh yeah, come check it out.
Speaker 5: The cult REJIXX will have a bootha I'll be doing
Speaker 5: interviews and shit, I'll probably be recording some of the
Speaker 5: speakers or whatever. We're doing interviews with them. So yeah,
Speaker 5: come check it out if you're in the area. It's
Speaker 5: for two days and if you really want, and I
Speaker 5: know I've said this before, it's worth ten thousand itself.
Speaker 5: Saturday at two o'clock there will be grown ups actually
Speaker 5: doing bigfoot coals, So you can come down and check
Speaker 5: that out for a good left and then you can
Speaker 5: come and check me out and kick it with me.
Speaker 5: I'll smoke one with you if you come, so, uh,
Speaker 5: come on down if you're around. Uh yeah, And uh
Speaker 5: that's enough out of me, and I will let everybody
Speaker 5: start plugging their show and all that. But Doc, thank
Speaker 5: you so much man for coming on. Like I said,
Speaker 5: I didn't know anything about this, Julia, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 5: she was on the troops and she said she didn't
Speaker 5: know anything about it. Uh so yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 5: think this is really interesting and I really liked it.
Speaker 5: I definitely think the viewers did too. Doc. Why don't
Speaker 5: you let everybody know please where they can find your
Speaker 5: amazing show.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.
Speaker 9: Really, I appreciate the opportunity to come out and talk,
Speaker 9: and I appreciate the panels and having the back and forth,
Speaker 9: and even when we derail, I enjoy it thoroughly.
Speaker 2: I've smiled so much tonight my face hurt. Guys, Thank you.
Speaker 2: I needed that.
Speaker 9: But if you guys enjoyed that and these type of conversations,
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Speaker 2: Pick up a.
Speaker 9: Copy of the epic of Esau, birth Right and Seed War,
Speaker 9: and hopefully Friday, the audiobook will be available on Audible.
Speaker 2: So fingers crossed, but thank you.
Speaker 5: Awton, Thank you so much, sir and Bennett. Let everybody knows.
Speaker 8: I'm Bennett from Broadcasting Seeds podcast. You can find mever
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Speaker 5: Thanks, of course, thank you so I appreciate you coming
Speaker 5: on Man and the Headless Joant.
Speaker 6: You know me, you know where to find me. I'm
Speaker 6: nedless giant and it's great to see you get Julia,
Speaker 6: thank you coming on.
Speaker 5: Awesome And last min not least, Julia, please let everybody
Speaker 5: know what's over with you.
Speaker 3: If you haven't found me yet, you never will. And
Speaker 3: I will say this, I'm picky about what podcasts I
Speaker 3: listened to. Obviously I listened to The Occult Rejects, but
Speaker 3: one of my favorite shows is the Prometheus Salons podcast.
Speaker 3: I really love, Yeah, I really love the topics you
Speaker 3: choose to cover and you know your perspective on everything.
Speaker 3: I had no idea about this stuff. Tonight I learned
Speaker 3: a lot. I think the listeners did too, Nick. Thanks
Speaker 3: for having me.
Speaker 5: Of course. Of course. Yeah. I will say you, Doc,
Speaker 5: I'll have to admit you have one of the few
Speaker 5: podcasts that will actually be like fuck, that was a
Speaker 5: good one.
Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh fuck, I wish I could make
Speaker 5: reals like this. Dude nice, you know, but yeah, definitely
Speaker 5: check out a show if people have a banger of
Speaker 5: a show. Thank you Wolf for coming on. I really
Speaker 5: had a great, great time tonight. It's a really good
Speaker 5: last And again, I mean, that was all new to me,
Speaker 5: so I appreciate it. Doc, it was awesome. And everybody
Speaker 5: in the chat, that's what's up. It seemed like everybody
Speaker 5: was here a comment and was here from the beginning
Speaker 5: to the end. That is what's up. And I really
Speaker 5: appreciate it. And until the next one, everybody be well Later.
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