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<v Speaker 1>The disclaimer to the fair season. Karen's out there, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>dare you? All guests on the show do not reflect

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<v Speaker 1>the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show

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<v Speaker 1>is to have interesting conversations, stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>Our minds, and grow, not what we want.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are looking for an echo chamber viewer and listener,

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<v Speaker 1>discretion's abased.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you talk about extreme?

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<v Speaker 2>What is happening and what is up? Hold out your

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<v Speaker 2>glass because we're about to feel.

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<v Speaker 4>The join us as we travel and explore the vast unknown.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay, damsels to save,

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<v Speaker 4>and innumerable treasures to hoard. The torch is high, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>look at it from a different perspective, different perspective.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, we got somebody

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<v Speaker 5>back who hasn't been here for a while. It's very exciting,

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<v Speaker 5>and we got a returning guest that's going on that

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<v Speaker 5>we always we always love when Prometheus Lynch shows up

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<v Speaker 5>and Doc Brown is here. He always brings it up

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<v Speaker 5>to a perfectly comfortable ninety three degrees. He's turn it

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<v Speaker 5>up tonight. But before we introduce him, let's introduce the

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<v Speaker 5>amazing Julia, what's going on? Cosmic peaches back? How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>It's good to be back, And of course I always

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<v Speaker 3>love working with the good doctor. Can't wait to get

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<v Speaker 3>into the show tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell yeah, hell yeah. Well I'm glad to have you back.

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<v Speaker 5>And uh yeah, do you want to plug any of

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<v Speaker 5>you show? You got the baby going here, I'll let

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<v Speaker 5>uh you want me to let Headless go? All right,

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<v Speaker 5>Headless go for it real quick. Let everybody know what's

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<v Speaker 5>to do with you.

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<v Speaker 6>You can find me on Twitter and on YouTube and

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<v Speaker 6>Instagram at the Headless Giant Podcast and also you can

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<v Speaker 6>send your occult, slash, mystical, slash, strange dream emails to

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<v Speaker 6>my email account at Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot

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<v Speaker 6>com and you two can have your email written on

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<v Speaker 6>the show and we can break it down and talk

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<v Speaker 6>about it. We just got done doing that one. And

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<v Speaker 6>also I've got a show on Sundays called The Trialogues

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<v Speaker 6>with Ethan Indigo and Ricardo. And also on Mondays, I've

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<v Speaker 6>started a new show about alchemy. So this next Monday,

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<v Speaker 6>we're gonna be going over the supplies list and the

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<v Speaker 6>things you need to do to do alchemy. So that'll

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<v Speaker 6>be fun. Check that out.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell yeah, yes, and by the middle of November we

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<v Speaker 5>will be covering seven seven seven by Elosti Crowley. That

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<v Speaker 5>should be interesting and it should take about five fucking

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<v Speaker 5>years probably, But real quick, Julia, do you want you do?

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<v Speaker 5>You want to plug your shows and let everybody know

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<v Speaker 5>where they can find all your work, just in case

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<v Speaker 5>they don't know who you are already.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, of course, yes. I've been actually taking a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks off, you know, trying to get a

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<v Speaker 3>routine going with the baby. But I have a couple

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<v Speaker 3>new shows. You can find Cosmic Peach wherever you listen

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<v Speaker 3>to podcasts. But I watched the New ed Gian and

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<v Speaker 3>uh it's it's pretty crazy. And there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 3>review of that up right now if people want to

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<v Speaker 3>go check that out. And that's a Cosmic Peach podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks Nick, of course, hell yeah, people go check that

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<v Speaker 5>one out for sure. And we got Bennett. What is

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<v Speaker 5>going on, sir.

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<v Speaker 7>Olly, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Bennett to the host of Broadcasting Seeds podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>a veteran storyteller and researcher, and I like to explore

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<v Speaker 8>the weird edges of history, faith and reality.

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<v Speaker 7>You can find me at Broadcasting Seeds dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>Has to be into the weird shit to be here, right,

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<v Speaker 5>That's it, be honest. And finally the man is selves,

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<v Speaker 5>Doc Brown, Prometheus Lens. Please, sir, let everybody know what

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<v Speaker 5>the fuck is up with you where they can find

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<v Speaker 5>all of your amazing work.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you for having me back man, and honestly do

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<v Speaker 9>just thank you for your friendship. You know, we talk

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<v Speaker 9>a lot and you've brought me in on a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of amazing conversations that I would not have had if

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<v Speaker 9>it weren't for you. I want you to know up front,

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<v Speaker 9>I am so thankful for that, brother. I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 9>But yeah, guys, anywhere you can consume content Prometheus Lens Podcast.

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<v Speaker 9>Just search us up you'll be able to find us Apple, YouTube, Spotify,

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<v Speaker 9>all the things, same thing with the social media's.

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<v Speaker 2>Websites.

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<v Speaker 9>Prometheus Limb, Prometheus Lens Podcast dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>And just release my first.

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<v Speaker 9>Book if you guys haven't checked it out, I heard

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<v Speaker 9>about it at the Epic of Esau, The Birthright and

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<v Speaker 9>Seed War. You can get it on my website directly

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<v Speaker 9>for me the signed copy there Ben, it's got one.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, bro, and or to digital for ten and honestly,

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<v Speaker 9>I think it'll be tomorrow because they told me ten days.

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<v Speaker 9>But I have recorded in my voice the audio book

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<v Speaker 9>ten days ago and they said that, you know, it

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<v Speaker 9>could take up to ten days were to release. So

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<v Speaker 9>hopefully tomorrow you can be able to go on audible.

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<v Speaker 9>And if you can't read or just don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Want to read, you're without an excuse.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that's something. Now I want to hear you reading

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<v Speaker 5>that fucking book, yo. And you know what, for real,

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<v Speaker 5>for real, all the people that all the Bigfoot listeners

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<v Speaker 5>for the show, you might actually be interested in that book,

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<v Speaker 5>So go check that shit out, you know, in case

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<v Speaker 5>you don't know who he really is because you're more

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<v Speaker 5>into the Bigfoot scene, that book I think would pique

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<v Speaker 5>your interest, you know, make you think too. Thank you

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<v Speaker 5>Doc very much for coming on man and tonight we

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<v Speaker 5>got the Secret Life of John Willis Booth. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be totally honest with you. This was a topic

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<v Speaker 5>that I didn't know really or I didn't know of

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<v Speaker 5>this situation until I saw you post about it, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh, I had no idea, and I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, fucking it. Hit you upbout it? And you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>come on, so well you want to tell us a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit. I guess, like, what even got you on

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<v Speaker 5>to this topic? I made you think about it? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Honestly, I always said that I was a history buff.

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<v Speaker 9>I love history, but I always just consumed, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>the mainstream narrative. And it wasn't until I started getting

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<v Speaker 9>into like the biblical topics and kind of widely known

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<v Speaker 9>conspiracies that I started questioning the narrative and started looking

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<v Speaker 9>into these other things. And that's something I even say

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<v Speaker 9>on the show that I try to try to take

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<v Speaker 9>a second look at everything, you know, the histories, the Bible,

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<v Speaker 9>all that stuff too, because more times than not we've

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<v Speaker 9>it for ourselves. And honestly, I just grabbed a book.

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<v Speaker 9>I always go to this place called McKay's Used Books

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<v Speaker 9>down in Knoxville. It's like an hour from me. It's

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<v Speaker 9>like a three story tall building full of nothing but books,

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<v Speaker 9>old vinyl records, collectibles, video games, all kinds of cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>It's in that building, but I always go there anytime

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<v Speaker 9>I'm around Knoxville, and I always spend at least one

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<v Speaker 9>hundred bucks every time I go. But I found this

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<v Speaker 9>book and I'll show you guys this. It's ten of

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<v Speaker 9>the greatest mysteries been coded, and it's full of pictures

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<v Speaker 9>and it's got like little evidence files you can pull out,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, like replica documents of the stuff they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 9>And that's kind of where I found this story, and

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<v Speaker 9>it kind of piqued my interest, and so then I

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<v Speaker 9>started deep diving looking into this stuff. And yeah, once again, guys,

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<v Speaker 9>there's pretty compelling evidence that the man that we were

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<v Speaker 9>twelve days later was shot in a barn was a lie.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, surprise, surprise. There's all kinds of you know,

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<v Speaker 9>everybody's got theories and legends and things like that. But

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<v Speaker 9>there's a couple that I found that has a really

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<v Speaker 9>good paper trail, and I just kind of went down

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<v Speaker 9>through it and started finding this stuff and I just

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<v Speaker 9>kind of did a little show about it on my

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<v Speaker 9>little teaser last week on it.

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<v Speaker 2>But like we were talking pre roll, I'm one of

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<v Speaker 9>I'm like the dog with the bone, you know, I

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<v Speaker 9>have to know everything so I started researching, and I

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<v Speaker 9>even found some authors that's dedicated their life to studying

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<v Speaker 9>into John Wilkes Booth, Jesse James, and then the Nights

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<v Speaker 9>of the Golden Circle. So this was a very deep

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<v Speaker 9>rabbit hole. So I'm really excited to sit down and

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<v Speaker 9>talk to some of these guys that's dedicated thirty forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Into this topic.

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<v Speaker 9>But I've been into it so far for maybe two

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<v Speaker 9>weeks now, and I found a lot of really cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>So I'm excited to share it with you and some

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<v Speaker 9>of you guys that may be old news because when

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<v Speaker 9>and stuff, I had people saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I've known this for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well I just found out.

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<v Speaker 5>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, fuck me for trying to put something

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<v Speaker 3>cool out there. I've never heard of it. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, I me.

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<v Speaker 5>Unlessen. We both see what people see on social media,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and it's kind of these are coming from

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<v Speaker 5>people who don't have a microphone and however even their

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<v Speaker 7>Mmm yeah, slaggers.

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<v Speaker 6>Well this brings up an interesting continuity. So do you

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<v Speaker 6>think the Knights of the Golden Circle are tied to

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<v Speaker 6>the Society of the Cincinnati and then ultimately the Knights Templar.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not familiar with the Cincinnati Society, but honestly, the

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<v Speaker 9>Knights of the Golden Circle I had never heard of

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<v Speaker 9>until this, and so me, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I gotta go see all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>But from what I have heard and read, uh, it

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<v Speaker 9>sounds like it's just a an offshoot branch of the Masons.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh.

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<v Speaker 9>Also it's kind of like a lot of the a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of the members once the organization got quote unquote

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<v Speaker 9>shut down, Uh, just kind of migrated into the the

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<v Speaker 9>klu Klux Klan movement. But this whole thing was blew

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<v Speaker 9>my mind. They're like a you know, it's a secret society.

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<v Speaker 9>But what separates these guys is they didn't write their

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<v Speaker 9>stuff down. They were extremely secretive. So the stuff that

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<v Speaker 9>we know is just from legends and lore and or

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<v Speaker 9>these guys they called themselves the Night of the Golden

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<v Speaker 9>Circle because they envisioned a territory like on a map,

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<v Speaker 9>in a big circle, and they called it the Golden Circle.

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<v Speaker 9>And what they wanted to do was take parts of Canada,

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<v Speaker 9>to the Caribbeans and Jamaica and back into Florida. And

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<v Speaker 9>this was this great, big Golden Circle. And a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of the men that joined this were influential leaders and politics.

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<v Speaker 9>They were wealthy farmers and landowners and railroad tycoons. These

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<v Speaker 9>doing what was called filibusting. And I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 9>that's when they refused to vote in Congress, and they're filibusting.

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<v Speaker 9>But what that term actually comes from is people, groups, gangs,

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<v Speaker 6>Well, in some ways, I think this was like the

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<v Speaker 6>sounds a lot like the Carthaginians, which had this sort

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<v Speaker 6>And just sort of take over the place from the coasts,

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<v Speaker 6>which was, you know, kind of a popular thing to do,

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<v Speaker 6>especially with the Freemasons. The Freemasons anytime they would have

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<v Speaker 6>the exact same thing that you were just talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>The filibuster. They would make sure that nothing else could

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<v Speaker 7>It was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was you know, monopolization.

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<v Speaker 9>And all these main political figures and these soldiers and

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<v Speaker 9>the Confederacy and things like that. They used this Knights

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<v Speaker 9>of the Golden Circle as like, how, what's the word

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<v Speaker 9>I'm looking for? Like, what was it call when some

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<v Speaker 9>when a snitch goes into protective protective custody?

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of used that.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, this was a group that had a lot

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<v Speaker 9>these people, give them money, send them to go hide out,

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<v Speaker 9>and they protected them. And John Wilkes Booth was one

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<v Speaker 7>In the Confederate States of America.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was funny, but.

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<v Speaker 9>John Wicks Booth, he was in he was a member

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<v Speaker 9>of it. Uh, the well known Jesse James was in

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<v Speaker 9>this group, and once the Civil War broke out, like

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<v Speaker 9>And what was wild was when I looked into this

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<v Speaker 9>and once again, guys, I'm a Southern man. I have

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<v Speaker 9>my biases like anybody else, but I am not a

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<v Speaker 9>proponent of slavery whatsoever. But the narrative that we were given,

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<v Speaker 9>or I was given as a child, was that the

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<v Speaker 9>Civil War started out to free the slaves. It was

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<v Speaker 9>all about ending slavery.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was a lie.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh what happened And this is once again once again,

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<v Speaker 9>once I started looking into this stuff, I found the

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<v Speaker 9>real narrative was that the Southern states didn't want to

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<v Speaker 9>vote for Abraham Lincoln. They didn't want him as president.

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<v Speaker 9>And he was going out and publicly saying, you know, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not coming after the slaves. I am not a tyrant,

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<v Speaker 9>I am not a king. I don't have the rights

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<v Speaker 9>to take away and say what your state does. The

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<v Speaker 9>states ruled themselves individually, and you can vote for me,

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<v Speaker 9>and rest assured, I am not going to take away

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<v Speaker 9>your slaves. And so he got voted in. But when

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<v Speaker 9>you go back and look, they had the electoral college

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<v Speaker 9>back then, he won the presidency without one single electorial

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<v Speaker 9>point from the South. He got voted in just from

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<v Speaker 9>that upper North. And we see that even today, so

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<v Speaker 9>that the South was like, our vote doesn't even count.

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<v Speaker 9>How come that little strip of land up there in

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<v Speaker 9>New England controls the destiny of the entire country. We're out,

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<v Speaker 9>We're going to succeed from the Union because obviously our

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<v Speaker 9>boat doesn't count. And that that's what got it all started.

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<v Speaker 9>And when you go to Abraham Lincoln's inaugural speech, he

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<v Speaker 9>says it again, all my Southern.

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<v Speaker 5>Brothers and sisters, rest assured.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm going to stand by my campaign promise. I am

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<v Speaker 9>not going after the slaves. You know, I am not

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<v Speaker 9>a king, I'm not a tyrant. The states ruled themselves individually,

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<v Speaker 9>and I have no right to take those from you.

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<v Speaker 9>So rest assured you have nothing to worry about. Because

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<v Speaker 9>there was rumors of succession. But they ended up doing

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<v Speaker 9>it anyway, and they were losing the fight. They were

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<v Speaker 9>losing funding, they were they wouldn't get enough soldiers to

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<v Speaker 9>sign up. I mean, they were losing. So then they

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<v Speaker 9>drum up the narrative, Yeah, what of the be the

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<v Speaker 9>slaves To get more people to donate and more people

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<v Speaker 9>to sign up.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the big things that they were using to

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<v Speaker 6>unify a lot of the abolitionists that had formerly not

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<v Speaker 6>been a factor in these elections they were standing from voting,

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<v Speaker 6>is to say that they were going to free the slaves.

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<v Speaker 6>Because the northern abolitionists were causing a major start up

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<v Speaker 6>in the North and to get them on their side,

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<v Speaker 6>he had to claim he was freeing the slaves. And

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<v Speaker 6>what Abraham Lincoln himself said, if I could unite the

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<v Speaker 6>Union without freeing a single slave, I would, And so

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<v Speaker 6>you kind of have to look at that narrative a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit differently. He wanted total control over the United States.

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<v Speaker 6>He didn't want there to be any Balkanization. He wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to have it as a single union. They were getting

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<v Speaker 6>ready for their big push out west. You know, he

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<v Speaker 6>had to have everybody together, and that was a big

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<v Speaker 6>factor in Bleeding Kansas for example. Right, So this is

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<v Speaker 6>one of these precursors to the war, is this massive

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<v Speaker 6>fight out in Bleeding Kansas to determine whether or not

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<v Speaker 6>this was going to be a North you know, non

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<v Speaker 6>slavery state and or a southern state, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they fought it out there, and this was where John

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<v Speaker 6>Brown got his big start. And it wasn't until you know,

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<v Speaker 6>later on when he went up to West Virginia that

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<v Speaker 6>you see another one of these big kickoffs for the

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<v Speaker 6>Civil War, which was he was attacking magazine and he

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<v Speaker 6>was going to free all the slaves and in the

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<v Speaker 6>process he actually kills a black man. So as he's

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<v Speaker 6>going towards the magazine, there's a black man there as

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<v Speaker 6>a witness, and he's got to shoot the witness so

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<v Speaker 6>that nobody gets alerted to the fact that they're about

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<v Speaker 6>to take over this military side. So you know, John

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<v Speaker 6>Brown's though hero. He was just a scumbag liberal like

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<v Speaker 6>the kind that we have today. You know, a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of people don't realize that even the heroes that they say,

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<v Speaker 6>we're on the North is just you know, there's not

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<v Speaker 6>a lot there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a lot of people don't realize too.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like the Northern you know, say ettlements, colonies, what

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<v Speaker 9>they used to be. They were a lot larger territories,

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<v Speaker 9>and what did they do. They started busting up these

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<v Speaker 9>large territories into smaller states, and they've done that to

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<v Speaker 9>create more electoral college votes in their favor. That's why

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<v Speaker 9>even today you look at a map and ninety percent

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<v Speaker 9>of it'll be red or eighty percent of it, and

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<v Speaker 9>you only got twenty percent, just a couple of little

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<v Speaker 9>blue dots here and there. Yea, their candidate wins because

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<v Speaker 9>all these little states.

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<v Speaker 5>If Manhattan turns red, whatever Manhattan is, is probably going

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<v Speaker 5>to dictate the whole fucking state. Yeah, so looking at

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<v Speaker 5>how it is in New York, you're like, this is fuck.

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<v Speaker 9>And they're doing it now, just a different way. But

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<v Speaker 9>they're opening borders and bringing in all these migrants and

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<v Speaker 9>where they're saying, hey, we're the ones that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let you in.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, you better vote for us. So they're creating

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<v Speaker 9>more so they can't bust up territories and make smaller

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<v Speaker 9>states and create more elector college points now, So now

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<v Speaker 9>they have to flood these already existing states with migrants

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<v Speaker 9>that are going to vote the way that they want

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<v Speaker 9>them to. And that's why you see all of the

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<v Speaker 9>sanctuary cities are all in blue states and blue counties

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<v Speaker 9>because they're up into population to try to increase their

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<v Speaker 9>electoral votes.

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<v Speaker 6>To exemplify this where I'm sitting at right now in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 6>During the beginning part of the country, this would be

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<v Speaker 6>considered Virginia. Virginia went out that far. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>these these places were getting you know, portioned out, and

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<v Speaker 6>the South was getting left out of everything. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>that's where all the big block states are, and it

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't really seen as equal treatment. But in a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of ways, the South was more advanced culturally than the North.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of these European visitors, in European you know, elites,

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to come to the South because there was a

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<v Speaker 6>much different kind of a culture that it was up

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<v Speaker 6>north where they had again this immigrant problem and all

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<v Speaker 6>the rest of this stuff that they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 6>get robbed. They didn't want to go to New York.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, if you've ever seen the movie Gangs of

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<v Speaker 6>New York, it was like that. Pretty much all throughout

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<v Speaker 6>the Northeast, Baltimore, all these places were really rough to

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<v Speaker 6>go to. The more industrialized city base was not nearly

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<v Speaker 6>as nice and expansive and you know, quiet as the

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And if you remember that movie Gangs in New

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<v Speaker 9>York when they went to the Harbor, all those Irish

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<v Speaker 9>and English immigrants are coming off the boat. The Union

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<v Speaker 9>soldiers were sitting there with the table for you to

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<v Speaker 9>get in and get your assistanceship. You had to sign

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<v Speaker 9>up for the Union Army, That's right. So I mean

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<v Speaker 9>that shows you how what a rough shape they were

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<v Speaker 9>in and doing everything they could to try to turn

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<v Speaker 9>the tide of the war. So once this happened, once

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<v Speaker 9>the war was over and Lee signed the treaty with Grant, Uh,

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<v Speaker 9>it was just a few days later. It was on

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<v Speaker 9>Good Friday. Uh, the North and everybody was celebrating the

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<v Speaker 9>victory and unity. Well, of course the Southern states that

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<v Speaker 9>just you know, lost their shot at freedom that they

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<v Speaker 9>were trying to get. Uh, they weren't so happy, you

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<v Speaker 9>know that that they weren't happy with the situation. They

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<v Speaker 9>weren't happy with with Lincoln. They wasn't ready to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 9>And so on that Good Friday he went to take

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<v Speaker 9>his wife to Ford Steeter and they wanted to watch

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<v Speaker 9>this play. It was called My Something.

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<v Speaker 6>Cousin American, My American Cousin.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and that's when the night that John Willis Booth

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<v Speaker 9>killed the president. And when I got to looking through that,

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<v Speaker 9>there was so much stuff that I didn't realize or know.

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<v Speaker 9>But John Wills Booth, he was basically our modern day

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<v Speaker 9>Tom Cruise. He was a famous, well known actor. You know,

424
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<v Speaker 9>he was known to swoon the ladies. He was a

425
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<v Speaker 9>letter ees man and was just a really famous actor.

426
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<v Speaker 9>And I didn't realize it, but he was so close

427
00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.440
<v Speaker 9>with the owner of the Ford Theater that he even

428
00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:14.960
<v Speaker 9>had his mail delivered there. He knew the place like

429
00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.680
<v Speaker 9>the back of his hand. Well where he was a

430
00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:19.640
<v Speaker 9>member of this Knight's that the Golden Circle. Him and

431
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<v Speaker 9>a group of conspirators got together before the war was over,

432
00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:29.160
<v Speaker 9>and they were planning on kidnapping the president and holding

433
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<v Speaker 9>him for ransom to get all the Confederate soldiers released. Well,

434
00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.039
<v Speaker 9>while they were planning all this, the war ended and

435
00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.359
<v Speaker 9>then they started working out trade agreements to release that

436
00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:43.880
<v Speaker 9>the Southern prisoners of war. So then therefore his plan

437
00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 9>was for not so he'd kind of given up, but

438
00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.920
<v Speaker 9>he went to go pick up his mail, and then

439
00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:54.960
<v Speaker 9>the owner of the joint was like, hey, we just

440
00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:58.160
<v Speaker 9>found out Lincoln's coming tonight to watch the play.

441
00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:01.440
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh yeah, really okay.

442
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.359
<v Speaker 9>So then he drummed up this thing just on the fly,

443
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:06.720
<v Speaker 9>He's like, well, I'm just gonna I'm gonna kill this guy.

444
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 9>So he went up and drilled a hole in the

445
00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:13.839
<v Speaker 9>side of the wall where he could see like a

446
00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:17.279
<v Speaker 9>peep hole and check things out. And he never even

447
00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:20.559
<v Speaker 9>tried to hide his identity. He walked in that night

448
00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:21.519
<v Speaker 9>like he owned the place.

449
00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.680
<v Speaker 7>Good dead, Yeah, and.

450
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:28.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, he said that he walked in, he was shaking hands,

451
00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:32.559
<v Speaker 9>talk with everybody, like everything was just hunky dory, and uh,

452
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:34.960
<v Speaker 9>he walked up and of course you're thinking the president

453
00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:36.559
<v Speaker 9>should have some security detail.

454
00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Back then, he.

455
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:40.759
<v Speaker 9>Only had one or two guys, and on this night

456
00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:45.079
<v Speaker 9>they were a couple of streets down having drinks with friends.

457
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:49.160
<v Speaker 9>And it says that he walks up and he knew

458
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:51.920
<v Speaker 9>the play well and h In the third scene, there

459
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.440
<v Speaker 9>was this big hit moment where everybody starts laughing and

460
00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:57.440
<v Speaker 9>makes a lot of ruckus and noise. He planned on

461
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.599
<v Speaker 9>going in and shooting him then that way people maybe

462
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:04.160
<v Speaker 9>wouldn't hear the gunshots or notice it. But he snuck

463
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:09.279
<v Speaker 9>in that grand scene, he shot the president while a

464
00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:13.720
<v Speaker 9>nearby officer heard the bang and smelt the sulfur and

465
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:17.319
<v Speaker 9>busted in and Booth ends up stabbing him in a struggle,

466
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:20.920
<v Speaker 9>and they're in this balcony. It's like twelve foot off

467
00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:25.240
<v Speaker 9>the ground overlooking the stage. And so Booth after he

468
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:28.039
<v Speaker 9>does this, in him being an actor, he couldn't resist

469
00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:32.400
<v Speaker 9>the chance for a final curtain call. He jumped off

470
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:36.160
<v Speaker 9>the balcony and landed onto the stage. But during his

471
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 9>landing he.

472
00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Broke his leg. He broke his left leg.

473
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<v Speaker 9>But he stands up and turns to the crowd, and

474
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:46.759
<v Speaker 9>of course there's chaos going on, and he proclaims, in

475
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:53.279
<v Speaker 9>enlighten thus to all tyrants. And he was quoting from

476
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:59.359
<v Speaker 9>Shakespeare when Brutus killed Caesar, because that's what he said.

477
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:03.599
<v Speaker 9>He said, us to all tyrants. And then he took

478
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:05.559
<v Speaker 9>off and there he had his a friend of his,

479
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:10.599
<v Speaker 9>holding his horse and ready to for a getaway. And

480
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 9>so they ride hard. I think they said. They rode

481
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:16.119
<v Speaker 9>like fourteen miles and made it to this tavern. Were

482
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:21.640
<v Speaker 9>there he had food, supplies and guns, safe houts. Yeah,

483
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:24.559
<v Speaker 9>basically it was like a tavern cool and so they

484
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:28.079
<v Speaker 9>got their supplies, never even bothered. The Booth didn't even

485
00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 9>get off his horse because of his broken leg. But

486
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:33.519
<v Speaker 9>he couldn't resist to tell everybody that he just killed

487
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.720
<v Speaker 9>the president. He had to brag about it. And then

488
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:40.599
<v Speaker 9>he keeps riding down further south and he's in so

489
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:45.599
<v Speaker 9>much pain that he stops and sees this doctor. I'm

490
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.079
<v Speaker 9>trying to think me, look, it's I remember his last

491
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.519
<v Speaker 9>name was mud Yeah, and a whodhouse.

492
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 6>I used to drive by that every day for work.

493
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:56.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And so he went to see him, and he

494
00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:59.400
<v Speaker 9>was a doctor that he had known and seen before.

495
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:01.720
<v Speaker 9>Because when the after seeing he knew who he was,

496
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:03.279
<v Speaker 9>and he.

497
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:08.160
<v Speaker 6>Reached he's not going south. They're looking for him in

498
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.759
<v Speaker 6>the south. That's where they assume that he's going to go.

499
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:13.839
<v Speaker 6>So where does he go? He goes up north and

500
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 6>east or north and west. So he wasn't he wasn't,

501
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:21.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, playing along with the you know, the whole trope.

502
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.640
<v Speaker 6>He was going to find a different way to get

503
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.680
<v Speaker 6>back to the south because obviously they had headed him

504
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 6>off at the pass. But on the way out there

505
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 6>looking for him, they find this guy named John B.

506
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:39.559
<v Speaker 6>Guida and he was an Italian born Jesuit that was

507
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 6>a dead ringer for John Wilkes Booth and they kind

508
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 6>of knew each other too. And so this is giving

509
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 6>me a lot of vibes like the Kennedy assassination, right,

510
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:57.799
<v Speaker 6>because they had that that a police guy who they

511
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.519
<v Speaker 6>called JFK because you know, he was that ringer for him.

512
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:07.279
<v Speaker 3>There was also multiple Oswalts. That's another thing that people

513
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>talk about. There's multiple Oswalt's, Like somebody saw him running

514
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:15.079
<v Speaker 3>up the stairs. Another person saw him like by the

515
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.599
<v Speaker 3>grassy knoll, another person saw him like whatever. There was

516
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.319
<v Speaker 3>like multiple assassins. They all looked the same and they

517
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 3>were all Oswald.

518
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:27.480
<v Speaker 6>There's a recent picture with Oswald standing close to the

519
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 6>the Kennedy you know limousine.

520
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:34.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, get up right, right. So that's where like the

521
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Speaker 3>multiple Oswald thing comes in. So there could possibly have

522
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Speaker 3>been like multiple John Wilkes booth like you know, to

523
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.680
<v Speaker 3>throw people off the trail. But you know, it's interesting

524
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 3>to me with this whole Nights of the Golden Circle

525
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:54.119
<v Speaker 3>thing and then quoting Shakespear and you know, Lincoln was

526
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 3>doing seances and shit at the White House. It was

527
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 3>conjuring shit definitely into some weird stuff. And also they

528
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.880
<v Speaker 3>say that Lincoln had some form of like weird gigantism

529
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 3>and he was probably descended from some weird motherfuckers, uh family, Yeah,

530
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>that's what I'm saying. Like, it wasn't like he was

531
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:24.920
<v Speaker 3>yeah right, Nefflom ship. It's not It's not like, Oh,

532
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:26.960
<v Speaker 3>he was just a really tall guy and he liked

533
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 3>to wear these top hats that made him look like

534
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 3>a fucking magician. No coincidence there, uh, but no, he

535
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 3>had some kind of weird gigantism and he was like

536
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 3>half retarded or something like that. Yeah, he probably kind

537
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 3>of left flip cleft palette like Joaquin Phoenix that got

538
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:54.039
<v Speaker 3>fixed over time, you know, I don't you know. That's

539
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:57.279
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. He was into some some nefarious ship,

540
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 3>and so probably was John will Booth. Oh, somebody already

541
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 3>commented beehole. The podcast is complete now, mm hmmm.

542
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

543
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 7>It was a great episode.

544
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

545
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:16.359
<v Speaker 5>Do you remember that one? Were you that.

546
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:20.519
<v Speaker 2>I was here for it?

547
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:24.400
<v Speaker 7>It's beautiful.

548
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't here.

549
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>I was in the chat.

550
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 5>The chat.

551
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:30.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, doctor Mud fixed his leg.

552
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:36.880
<v Speaker 9>Yeah yeah, Doctor Matty reset his leg. And what was

553
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:41.640
<v Speaker 9>crazy is he knew John Wills Booth he was part

554
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:46.119
<v Speaker 9>of the conspirators that were going to kidnap him, but

555
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:49.200
<v Speaker 9>he had no idea that he killed the president because,

556
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.039
<v Speaker 9>like I said, this was a last minute thing. He's like,

557
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 9>I'm just gonna wing it, and like Hedla said, you know,

558
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.160
<v Speaker 9>he kind of went north for a little bit before

559
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:01.920
<v Speaker 9>he started going to Maryland. Yeah, one first, because he

560
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 9>was he was panicked, he was freaking out. His kind

561
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.960
<v Speaker 9>of playing it as he went along because it wasn't planned.

562
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 9>This was a spur of the moment thing. And so

563
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.000
<v Speaker 9>the the doctor reset his leg, let him stay at

564
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:17.920
<v Speaker 9>his house, and he went to town the next morning and

565
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 9>he's seen the Union soldiers and everybody talking about the

566
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 9>other president was just shot last night, and he was

567
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.119
<v Speaker 9>just like, oh my god, he did it.

568
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>He did it.

569
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 9>So then he goes back and he's like, hey, I'm

570
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 9>not going to rat you out, man, but you cannot

571
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 9>stay here. You're gonna, you know, implement me in this.

572
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:34.480
<v Speaker 2>You got to go.

573
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 9>So they pack up and they take off and then

574
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 9>here's where they go to that that farm.

575
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>What was the name of that farm?

576
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 9>I got it in my notes, but it was the

577
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 9>Garrett Farm.

578
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Garrett Garrett Farm.

579
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And the way the mainstream narrative, yeah, the mainstream

580
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:57.839
<v Speaker 9>narrative is that they go to this barn and they

581
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 9>stay with his family for two to three days, and

582
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 9>even when I first heard that, I was like, this

583
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.559
<v Speaker 9>is guy that just killed the president. He's on the run.

584
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.720
<v Speaker 9>He's not gonna stay somewhere two or three days. Man,

585
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 9>He's gonna be one to be moving. I mean, that's

586
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.240
<v Speaker 9>how i'd want to be. I'm like, I ain't sitting still.

587
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 9>I'm moving because every day I'm sitting still, they're gaining

588
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:17.960
<v Speaker 9>on me.

589
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:19.240
<v Speaker 7>Yea.

590
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 9>And they said that on that night, that somehow the

591
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 9>Union soldiers found out he was there. And what I

592
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 9>had heard through some people was that this family, this

593
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.279
<v Speaker 9>Garrett family, had found out who he was what he done,

594
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.079
<v Speaker 9>and they played it nice and sent somebody out of

595
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.359
<v Speaker 9>the town to tell the union and then told him,

596
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 9>you know, hey, we know you guys are doing some

597
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:48.960
<v Speaker 9>of the nefarious stuff. You're just gonna have to sleep

598
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:51.359
<v Speaker 9>in the barn tonight and tomorrow you're gonna be on

599
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 9>your way. And supposedly they locked them in the barn,

600
00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 9>the tobacco barn, until the Union soldiers showed up up,

601
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:06.200
<v Speaker 9>and that they burned the barn down to smoke them out.

602
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.480
<v Speaker 9>At his co conspirator George comes out with his hands

603
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 9>up and surrenders, and they say that John Wilkes Booth

604
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:18.599
<v Speaker 9>come out with a rifle in hand, and he was

605
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:22.920
<v Speaker 9>shot in the neck and was killed. And that's the

606
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:29.559
<v Speaker 9>mainstream narrative that we're given. And what I had found

607
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 9>going through here was that the man that they killed

608
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.960
<v Speaker 9>was not John Wilkes Booth, and they believe it to

609
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 9>be this guy named James Boyd.

610
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And can I do.

611
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 5>A screen chair as you can?

612
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.960
<v Speaker 9>I wanted to show you guys this picture this guy.

613
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:55.839
<v Speaker 9>That way people can kind of just see the comparison here. Uh,

614
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Speaker 9>let's see is that the plus button share?

615
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yep.

616
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 6>Sure. Something to be noted here about the tobacco barn

617
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:11.320
<v Speaker 6>because tobacco barns are classically all open, right. They have

618
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 6>to the air circular around the tobacco so that it

619
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.760
<v Speaker 6>can dry out properly, and it takes about a year

620
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:18.480
<v Speaker 6>for it to try out. So these things are open

621
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:23.039
<v Speaker 6>all the time. There's no way that you can lock

622
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 6>somebody in a tobacco barn because all they'd have to

623
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 6>do is slip out one of the open ports that

624
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 6>are open all the way around this thing.

625
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 9>So yeah, there was hundreds of doors and they were

626
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:36.159
<v Speaker 9>all on hinges and they swung open to let the

627
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:40.280
<v Speaker 9>breeze in to air the tobacco out. And this guy

628
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 9>right here, this picture, this, i believe it or not,

629
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 9>is not John wils Booth, James Way.

630
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 2>This is James Boyd.

631
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 9>And you cannot tell me that this is that dude's doppelganger.

632
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 7>Bro Yeah, they look a lot of like.

633
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:57.840
<v Speaker 9>And then some people want to say, you know, well,

634
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 9>if this is the man they killed, how did he

635
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 9>wind up in the barn with that George guy. Well,

636
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 9>they interviewed all these different soldiers that helped them cross

637
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 9>the river and to get to this farm and set

638
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 9>him up there. The Unions found him and beat them

639
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 9>and question them till they spilled the beans. This Boyd

640
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 9>guy was a Confederate soldier. He also was in the

641
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:27.119
<v Speaker 9>Knights of the Golden Circle, and he aided Booth into

642
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 9>crossing the river and getting him a ferry and setting

643
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:33.119
<v Speaker 9>him up with these garrets. And when Booth went to

644
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 9>pay him for his services for helping him, he realized

645
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:43.880
<v Speaker 9>his wallet was missing, and he told Boyd that he

646
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 9>had left his wallet on the ferry that if he

647
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 9>would go and retrieve his wallet for him, he would

648
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 9>pay him even more money. He'd bring it back to him.

649
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:59.400
<v Speaker 9>So they go on to the barn and Boyd goes

650
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:04.239
<v Speaker 9>to retrieve the wallet and the money. Well, during this time,

651
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:09.159
<v Speaker 9>they said that Booth become anxious and didn't want to

652
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:13.639
<v Speaker 9>stay there, and George didn't want to go with him,

653
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.880
<v Speaker 9>so he went on his own. He left well while

654
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 9>they were waiting for him, and he took off. Boyd

655
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 9>returns with the wallet and the money, and it was

656
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:25.719
<v Speaker 9>late at night. He had nowhere to go, so he

657
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.280
<v Speaker 9>stayed in the barn. And that was the guy they

658
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 9>killed that night. Yeah, and this guy's a dead ringer.

659
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 9>And when they took his body to the I can't

660
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 9>remember the name of that. It was some kind of

661
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 9>military ship that there was a doctor there and they

662
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 9>took him there for an autopsy and examination, and the

663
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 9>doctor was a Frederick May. This guy, Frederick May, was

664
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 9>a position of Booth and just a year or two

665
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 9>prior had removed a growth from the back of his neck,

666
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 9>so he knew him well. When May seen the body,

667
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 9>they called him to identify the body. When he first

668
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:16.239
<v Speaker 9>seen the body, he said, this is not John Will's Booth.

669
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 9>And then his family still has his records, and in

670
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 9>his records he said when he seen the body, it

671
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 9>looked nothing like Booth, and that he had a broken

672
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:37.119
<v Speaker 9>right leg. All the accounts said he broke his left leg,

673
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 9>not his right.

674
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 3>You think they broke his wrong leg after they shot

675
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.440
<v Speaker 3>him to make it look like it, because I was

676
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 3>going to say, wouldn't you just have to see if

677
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Speaker 3>this guy had a fucked up leg, you know, just

678
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.840
<v Speaker 3>to make sure if it was the real Booth or not.

679
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:57.079
<v Speaker 3>So they broke the wrong leg on some fucking hurry

680
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:01.119
<v Speaker 3>up cover job, sloppy bullshit. This is like the flop

681
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 3>to break the right fucking leg the bro.

682
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 6>This is like, this is like the flap of skin

683
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:12.039
<v Speaker 6>on on Kennedy's forehead that they cut open. It was

684
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.760
<v Speaker 6>so obvious, but you know, everybody kind of passes it over.

685
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:16.800
<v Speaker 6>What are you gonna do about it?

686
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

687
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:21.239
<v Speaker 9>And that's the thing that when I seen that, I

688
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.519
<v Speaker 9>was like the guy that operated on his neck knew

689
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.320
<v Speaker 9>him well, said no, that's not him. And then even

690
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:32.159
<v Speaker 9>in his own notes states that the wrong leg was broken,

691
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.519
<v Speaker 9>and but then later that the people that want to

692
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 9>go with the mainstream narrative and says, oh well, he

693
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 9>later recanted after he got to looking at it closer.

694
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.079
<v Speaker 9>That the guy had a scar on the back of

695
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.360
<v Speaker 9>his neck, and yeah, that that was where he removed

696
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 9>that growth that he had, and he later recanted once

697
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 9>he got to better look at him. Well, no, the government,

698
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.159
<v Speaker 9>Uh probably put a gun to his head and told him,

699
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:57.679
<v Speaker 9>you know, hey, our president was just killed and the

700
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 9>killer got away, and we're not going back to Washington

701
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.159
<v Speaker 9>and say that he got away. Uh, so we need

702
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 9>some stability in the country. And I'm not going back

703
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 9>to Washington saying that we strewed up. So you're going

704
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:10.039
<v Speaker 9>to say this is him.

705
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 3>They just need the bad guy. They just it didn't matter,

706
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 3>like they just needed They just needed to get the

707
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:19.079
<v Speaker 3>bad guy.

708
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 6>They ran across somebody that looked like John Wolke's booth

709
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:24.840
<v Speaker 6>on their way searching around for him, and they shot him.

710
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.239
<v Speaker 6>And then they're like, well, he does kind of look

711
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:28.280
<v Speaker 6>like John Wolke's booth.

712
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Not a good day to look like John wilkes booth. No,

713
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 3>not at all. He look like him, though, I mean he.

714
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 7>Does for sure. I mean some of his descendants.

715
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 8>And like other researchers have like attempted to get the

716
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:55.679
<v Speaker 8>body exhumed right to do DNA comparison. But I find

717
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.400
<v Speaker 8>it weird that all the requests.

718
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 7>Have been denied. Yes, I mean, you want to know.

719
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:04.000
<v Speaker 7>It's not like.

720
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:07.079
<v Speaker 8>They've exumed bodies all the time on a regular basis.

721
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:12.960
<v Speaker 8>But you know, if if the family like descendants are

722
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:16.440
<v Speaker 8>actually requesting, you know, let's do it.

723
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

724
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.840
<v Speaker 9>And they actually have a piece of the spinal the

725
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:25.639
<v Speaker 9>vertebrae of the the cadaver that they killed that they

726
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:27.480
<v Speaker 9>believe is John Wilkes Booth. That it's put up like

727
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.599
<v Speaker 9>in a museum or archive somewhere, and it even has

728
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:35.880
<v Speaker 9>the bullet hole through it. And they even studied that,

729
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.679
<v Speaker 9>and they said that the guy that's that and their

730
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.440
<v Speaker 9>reports that shot John Wilkes Booth was like five foot

731
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.480
<v Speaker 9>four or something like that. He was a short guy

732
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:51.000
<v Speaker 9>and that Booth was like six foot and they said

733
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 9>so when they shot the guy, examined that vertebrae and

734
00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 9>said it was at a twenty degree downward angle. He said,

735
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 9>there's no way that that guy made that shot because

736
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:07.159
<v Speaker 9>he's shorter than him. It'd have been going up instead

737
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 9>of down.

738
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 3>This is like the argument I make for the fake

739
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Paul McCartney. How the fuck did he gain like three feet?

740
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.840
<v Speaker 3>The real Paul was like super short, you know what

741
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. And then the accident happened, and then he

742
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:27.119
<v Speaker 3>like all of a sudden, was six foot tall. And people,

743
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:31.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, don't know that because how many times do

744
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:33.920
<v Speaker 3>you fucking get to meet Paul McCartney. He's not just

745
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 3>gonna be at Walmart one day like, oh, you're super

746
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:40.639
<v Speaker 3>fucking tall. When did that happen? Nobody, the general public

747
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:42.679
<v Speaker 3>is not gonna know that he puts.

748
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.599
<v Speaker 7>Those things in his shoes, Okay, you know what I'm saying.

749
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 3>Though, It's like it's like with this, with this cadaver thing,

750
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, real, John Wilkes grew is super fucking tall,

751
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:55.519
<v Speaker 3>but this body that they found is like five to two, right,

752
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.239
<v Speaker 3>But the general public is not gonna know that. Nobody

753
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:00.880
<v Speaker 3>knows how tall John Wilkes boot. This is like that's

754
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 3>that's like obscure information.

755
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

756
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.320
<v Speaker 9>And and when I got to looking into that, like

757
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:11.039
<v Speaker 9>I said, I found a couple of theories that show

758
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:14.840
<v Speaker 9>that he lived, you know, like forty years after this incident.

759
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:16.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and nineteen hundreds.

760
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And there's a couple of them. There's, of course

761
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 9>there's a bunch, but there was a couple that really

762
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 9>like grabbed me and it was like, man, this is

763
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.000
<v Speaker 9>this is plausible to me. And a lot of people

764
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 9>got to wrap their minds around the eighteen hundreds. Man,

765
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.559
<v Speaker 9>there was no internet, there was no telephone. All you

766
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.960
<v Speaker 9>had was eyewitness statements on people and drawings of wanted papers.

767
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 9>News didn't travel fast. It would be very easy for

768
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.679
<v Speaker 9>you to fake your death and slip away into oblivion.

769
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I think, just very easy.

770
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:51.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, people did it all the time.

771
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:57.039
<v Speaker 2>M hm. And this guy what I found I'm sorry.

772
00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, I was just saying, do you know, like it

773
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:03.599
<v Speaker 3>for what he like changed his name to, or like

774
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 3>anything like that.

775
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.320
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, there were several And like I said, the one

776
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.239
<v Speaker 9>that I found out I thought was really compelling was

777
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:13.039
<v Speaker 9>right here.

778
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 2>It says that.

779
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 9>A ninety year old woman. This is you know, hundreds

780
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.559
<v Speaker 9>of years later, but it says this nine year old

781
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:25.480
<v Speaker 9>woman named Juanita Kelly. She was a living relative of

782
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.840
<v Speaker 9>Louisa Payne, and she decided to spill the family secret.

783
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:34.800
<v Speaker 9>And she said, quote, my grandmother's sister married John Wilkes Booth,

784
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:39.599
<v Speaker 9>but they were already married when he revealed his true identity.

785
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.199
<v Speaker 9>And she went on to say that the name Booth

786
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.920
<v Speaker 9>was going by at the time was John Saint Helen

787
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 9>and said shortly after they were married, Booth came clean

788
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.800
<v Speaker 9>to his wife, Louisa, and she was so flabbergasted, being

789
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.800
<v Speaker 9>the Christian woman that she was, she demanded that they

790
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:03.119
<v Speaker 9>go back and read and refile under the correct name.

791
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.800
<v Speaker 9>And according to Franklin County, Tennessee, their court record show

792
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:13.000
<v Speaker 9>in the marriage registry that John Wilkes Booth married Louisa

793
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 9>Payne with his signature on it matching from February twenty fourth,

794
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:23.360
<v Speaker 9>eighteen seventy two. And that's seven years after the supposed assassination.

795
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.079
<v Speaker 3>Pussy, you'll do that to you? Make you go back

796
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 3>and fucking redo your name after you've assassinated the president?

797
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 5>Like, come one, that right?

798
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Got come on?

799
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

800
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:41.280
<v Speaker 9>And when I seen that, I was like, oh my gosh, okay.

801
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:44.920
<v Speaker 9>So now I followed this thread because it was in Tennessee.

802
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 9>I was like, oh man, this is home court here.

803
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:51.760
<v Speaker 9>I gotta kind of look this out. But it said

804
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 9>that this was a closely held family secret until Kelly

805
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 9>came forward. When she was asked why she was coming

806
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:01.880
<v Speaker 9>forward now, she said it was not talked about outside

807
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:04.320
<v Speaker 9>the family. She said, but I'm coming forward now, because

808
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 9>I'm ninety years old. And besides, all the people that

809
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 9>would have gotten into trouble.

810
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Over it are long gone now.

811
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:14.760
<v Speaker 9>So after they got married, they moved off to Memphis

812
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:18.079
<v Speaker 9>to start their new life together, and it says that

813
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 9>Luisa became homesick after a few months and that she

814
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:27.239
<v Speaker 9>wanted to go back home, and that Booth told her,

815
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:30.159
<v Speaker 9>We'll go ahead, go on in front of me. I'll

816
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 9>stay behind. I'll work a little more, save some money,

817
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:37.599
<v Speaker 9>and I'll come back to Middle Tennessee and we'll buy

818
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 9>some land and build a house and we'll start our

819
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 9>new lives together. Just go on ahead of me. And

820
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:47.800
<v Speaker 9>so she goes back home, but Booth never returns, and

821
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.199
<v Speaker 9>he ends up going to Texas according to this storyline,

822
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 9>and befriends this guy Phineas Bates, who's a lawyer, and

823
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:02.960
<v Speaker 9>his great granddaughter has his records and the family stories

824
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:07.639
<v Speaker 9>that he befriended this John Saint Helen and that he

825
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.000
<v Speaker 9>becomes sick and on his deathbed confessed to Bates that

826
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.360
<v Speaker 9>he was John Wilkes Booth, and he wanted to come

827
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.119
<v Speaker 9>clean before he died and wanted him to know.

828
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Well.

829
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 9>He ended up making it through the night. He didn't die,

830
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:23.679
<v Speaker 9>but when Bates went back to check on him, he

831
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.960
<v Speaker 9>was gone. He packed up and left, and they said.

832
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 9>It was a few years later that Bates had seen

833
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 9>an obituary in the I think it was Oneida, Oklahoma paper,

834
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 9>and it had the name of John Saint Helen and

835
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.880
<v Speaker 9>it matched his how old he was, and everything else.

836
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:43.079
<v Speaker 9>So he wanted to see if this was him. So

837
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:46.920
<v Speaker 9>he travels up to Oklahoma and goes to the mortuary

838
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 9>where he was being held, and the mortuary said, ohe

839
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 9>you his family, He's like, no, I believe he's a

840
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 9>friend of mine, but I wanted to come and be sure.

841
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:58.840
<v Speaker 9>And he said, well, come and identify the body, because

842
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:02.159
<v Speaker 9>nobody's come forward to claim the body or identify it,

843
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 9>so you're the only person we got, so come look

844
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 9>at him and verify who this is. And Bates went

845
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.480
<v Speaker 9>in and he said, without you know, any kind of

846
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 9>second thought or hesitation, that this is John Saint Helen.

847
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:16.679
<v Speaker 9>And then when he got to talking to some of

848
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:20.679
<v Speaker 9>the people that found his body and everything that he

849
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 9>once again thought he was dying and confessed to the

850
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:29.039
<v Speaker 9>people there that he was, in fact John Wilkes Booth

851
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:37.440
<v Speaker 9>and that he supposedly killed himself by drinking arsenic, and

852
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.039
<v Speaker 9>the arsenic they didn't know what it was. They just

853
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:42.719
<v Speaker 9>thought he, you know, he died. They found out later

854
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.360
<v Speaker 9>because when they embalmbed the guy mixed with that arsenic,

855
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:52.360
<v Speaker 9>it petrified and mummified him. So it perfectly preserved him,

856
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:56.679
<v Speaker 9>froze him in time, and nobody would take the body,

857
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.760
<v Speaker 9>so it was given to Bates, and Bates takes it

858
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 9>home and puts it in his garage and then he

859
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 9>tries to even sell it to people.

860
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's interesting with the tump on the sucker of

861
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:12.039
<v Speaker 5>the house. Yeah.

862
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.000
<v Speaker 9>And he tries to sell the corpse, the mummy to

863
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 9>people and says, oh, this is the famous John Wokes booth.

864
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:23.119
<v Speaker 9>And he even almost sold it to Henry Ford. He

865
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:25.440
<v Speaker 9>prized it to Henry Ford for one thousand dollars and

866
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:27.920
<v Speaker 9>he almost bought it, but he backed out last minute.

867
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:35.079
<v Speaker 9>So Phineas Bates dies with this petrified mummy in his garage.

868
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:39.400
<v Speaker 9>So when he died, Yeah, his wife.

869
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:42.480
<v Speaker 7>Tries about the name baits Man.

870
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:46.119
<v Speaker 9>Yeah exactly, and she ends up selling it to a

871
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:48.440
<v Speaker 9>traveling carnival like a freak show.

872
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 2>And this body toward.

873
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 9>The United States, and you can see like a quarter

874
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:56.960
<v Speaker 9>all the way up till like the nineteen seventies, and

875
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.639
<v Speaker 9>it suddenly disappeared, never to be seen again.

876
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:03.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they just they strung lights up on him and

877
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:07.199
<v Speaker 3>decorated him like a Christmas tree, Like what a fuck?

878
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Twenty five cents?

879
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 9>Come see that John Wilkes Booth who faked his death

880
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:14.400
<v Speaker 9>and lived many years after.

881
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 3>So he was mummified, sold to a circus, But we're

882
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 3>not allowed to dig up the cadaver body, Like how

883
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:25.559
<v Speaker 3>is this okay? How is it okay to have a

884
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 3>human mummy in your house and sell it to a

885
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:31.360
<v Speaker 3>circus but we can't exhume the grave?

886
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 5>Like what the fuck?

887
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:36.559
<v Speaker 3>This is so sacrilegious? Anyways?

888
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 6>Are we sure this isn't the myth of Osiris? Are

889
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 6>we getting a little bit of a you know, masotic

890
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:48.679
<v Speaker 6>mythology here, because yeah, this has sounded really strange, like

891
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.400
<v Speaker 6>almost like each one of these phases are planned out

892
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.159
<v Speaker 6>and mythologized in some way.

893
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:55.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, So what did they do like after the

894
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 3>circus act or whatever they just used him for like

895
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 3>firewood or something like did they ever bury.

896
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:05.239
<v Speaker 9>The corpse or what disappeared? They don't know what happened

897
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:06.199
<v Speaker 9>to it.

898
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.599
<v Speaker 3>Disappeared Ethan's firewood.

899
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 7>Maybe, Yeah, they grounded him.

900
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 3>Up and turned him into toilet paper or something.

901
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:22.000
<v Speaker 6>Right, But it wasn't cocaine in the in the White

902
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.320
<v Speaker 6>House when they found it. That was actually John Wilkes,

903
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 6>all ground up and they were sniffing it.

904
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.559
<v Speaker 3>That'll get you high every time, but it'll give you

905
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:33.679
<v Speaker 3>a pain in your left leg for some reason.

906
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:42.280
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, not the right one. And another one that I

907
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:46.960
<v Speaker 9>found that was really interesting was that he supposedly stole

908
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:50.760
<v Speaker 9>the identity. So this was modern day identity or I

909
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 9>misspoke ancient identity theft. But he stole the identity of

910
00:50:56.239 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 9>an englishman and uh, you go down here and his name.

911
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:06.480
<v Speaker 2>John Saint Helen.

912
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 9>Oh, and I forgot to mention when he moved off

913
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:17.800
<v Speaker 9>to Oklahoma, he had changed his name and went by

914
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:18.960
<v Speaker 9>David E.

915
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:21.119
<v Speaker 7>George.

916
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and it appears to be a code. Two of

917
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.880
<v Speaker 9>Booth's conspirators were David Harold and George E. Azerot, So

918
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:30.840
<v Speaker 9>it's like he took the two names of his buddies

919
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:42.039
<v Speaker 9>that combined them there. But let's see, okay, Yeah, like

920
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:44.559
<v Speaker 9>you guys had mentioned in nineteen ninety four, they petitioned,

921
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:48.000
<v Speaker 9>petitioned to have his remains exhumed, to have DNA testing

922
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.239
<v Speaker 9>to put all this stuff to bed, because there's a

923
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.480
<v Speaker 9>lot of people that come forward and said that they

924
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:57.480
<v Speaker 9>were children of Booth from relations outside of marriage while

925
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.760
<v Speaker 9>he was on the run but supposedly dead, and so

926
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 9>they wanted to do the DNA testing to put this

927
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 9>to bed. And at first the judge agreed, and then

928
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:13.079
<v Speaker 9>later someone unknown petitioned and talked to the judge and

929
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:17.199
<v Speaker 9>then he changed his mind and he pulled the whole

930
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:23.559
<v Speaker 9>thing being done. But Chuck Hubert, he was a John

931
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:26.960
<v Speaker 9>Wills Booth researcher. When here's why, saying he claimed to

932
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 9>pull off what we'd call identity theft today.

933
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.519
<v Speaker 2>He stole the.

934
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:36.880
<v Speaker 9>Identity of an Englishman that was visiting Indiana at the time,

935
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:41.679
<v Speaker 9>and he was named John B. Wilkes, so very similar.

936
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:46.639
<v Speaker 9>But he was born in Sheffield, England in eighteen twenty two.

937
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 9>But there he stole his identity and went to India

938
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 9>and remained there until his death in eighteen eighty three.

939
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:58.840
<v Speaker 9>Chuck also believes Booth returned to the United States in

940
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.480
<v Speaker 9>eighteen seventy three and was photographed and they have a

941
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:06.440
<v Speaker 9>photograph of John B. Wilkes during that last visit, and

942
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 9>it looks identical to Booth and I have that picture too.

943
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Let's check that out images.

944
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:20.800
<v Speaker 6>That sounds like that's the Golden Circle ship because he's

945
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:22.119
<v Speaker 6>down there in South America.

946
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:26.159
<v Speaker 7>Well, and just think he had being an actor.

947
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 8>He man, sorry, I can't even talk when I read that.

948
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 7>Damn. What was they saying?

949
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

950
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.440
<v Speaker 7>Because he was a good actor and he.

951
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:45.320
<v Speaker 8>Could do an English accent, So I mean, I guess

952
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 8>he could probably pull that off.

953
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean, even being the actor. Yeah, I mean how

954
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:49.639
<v Speaker 5>could he get? Of course you can.

955
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:52.519
<v Speaker 3>So what are we looking at right here?

956
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.880
<v Speaker 9>That that is the two guys that the John Wilkes

957
00:53:57.960 --> 00:53:58.800
<v Speaker 9>Booth and John B.

958
00:53:59.039 --> 00:53:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Wilkes.

959
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:04.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, see this is like the.

960
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I lied to you. That is the other.

961
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:14.480
<v Speaker 7>Guy person between John Wilkes is on the left and

962
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 7>the other guy the.

963
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Lloyd James Boyd.

964
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:25.840
<v Speaker 7>James Boyd was on the rest one. Uh So what happened?

965
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:28.960
<v Speaker 6>Did James Boyd not have any friends or family or

966
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 6>did they not notice he was gone?

967
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:36.239
<v Speaker 3>He was an unsavory fucker if nobody noticed.

968
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.760
<v Speaker 9>What happened during all this time. They've even documented It's

969
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 9>in the records. He was a Confederate soldier and he

970
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:46.480
<v Speaker 9>was captured and was a prisoner of war and they

971
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:52.360
<v Speaker 9>petitioned to have him released and he was just recently released.

972
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 9>And that's that was the last documentation that they had

973
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:57.079
<v Speaker 9>of the guy. Was right around this time of the

974
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:02.119
<v Speaker 9>assassination that he was set free. But that's that's the

975
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:04.400
<v Speaker 9>guy from the Englishman.

976
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 3>They all have the same like mustache and receding hairline

977
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:11.440
<v Speaker 3>thing going on.

978
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:16.519
<v Speaker 9>Well, and British look like Mark, mystic Mark from my

979
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:21.239
<v Speaker 9>family thinks of John Will.

980
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.400
<v Speaker 6>So the British connection really interests me because you know

981
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:31.039
<v Speaker 6>a lot of people say that the British were bankrolling

982
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:34.880
<v Speaker 6>the South and that they they were invested in the

983
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.519
<v Speaker 6>nights of the Golden Circle idea just kind of break

984
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:38.559
<v Speaker 6>up the Union.

985
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:39.440
<v Speaker 5>Ye.

986
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.079
<v Speaker 6>So if he's if he's throwing his lot in with

987
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.920
<v Speaker 6>the British and going by this British accent and everything else,

988
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:45.840
<v Speaker 6>that kind of makes sense.

989
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.000
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And that's the thing. He had the money and

990
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.880
<v Speaker 9>the ties of the Golden Circle. And you got to

991
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 9>remember this is another rabbit trail, but it kind of

992
00:55:54.800 --> 00:56:01.079
<v Speaker 9>ties in was the Confederates. They had their capital up

993
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.199
<v Speaker 9>there in Richmond, right, there on the border of the

994
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:05.599
<v Speaker 9>North Well the last stand.

995
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Robert E.

996
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:09.559
<v Speaker 9>Lee was trying to hold him back, and he told Davis,

997
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.559
<v Speaker 9>you know, it's a losing battle. It's just a matter

998
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.679
<v Speaker 9>of time before they get past our men and they

999
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.920
<v Speaker 9>hit the capitol. So Davis told him, just buy me

1000
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.960
<v Speaker 9>twenty four hours. Give me twenty four hours to get

1001
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:27.280
<v Speaker 9>my cabinet out and to save the treasury. And it

1002
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 9>was documented in today's money there was two hundred million

1003
00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 9>dollars in the Confederate treasury. So he gave him twenty

1004
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:43.239
<v Speaker 9>four hours, and he loaded up nine trains with his

1005
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:47.280
<v Speaker 9>cabinet and all of the money and started heading south.

1006
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:51.360
<v Speaker 9>And here's where you get this quote unquote conspiracy. Now,

1007
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:52.920
<v Speaker 9>this is all happening at the same time with the

1008
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:56.920
<v Speaker 9>John Wills booth stuff. Okay, they stop off in North

1009
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:00.320
<v Speaker 9>Carolina and they have a log. Well don't quote me

1010
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.199
<v Speaker 9>on the number, but when they stopped in North Carolina,

1011
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:08.800
<v Speaker 9>they stopped off for a minute and then traveled further south.

1012
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:11.559
<v Speaker 9>But the logs reflect that there was the equivalent of

1013
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:19.840
<v Speaker 9>like twenty million dollars gone that got unloaded there. Then

1014
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.519
<v Speaker 9>they go down into Georgia, they make another stop once

1015
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.519
<v Speaker 9>again here's another forty or fifty million dollars missing from

1016
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 9>the log book. So it's like every stop they took

1017
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:31.559
<v Speaker 9>it kept dwindling down, dwindling down, and that they finally

1018
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:34.519
<v Speaker 9>make it to their destination and they deposit the money

1019
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:38.800
<v Speaker 9>into this bank. And the deposit note was for I

1020
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:41.159
<v Speaker 9>want to say, to the equivalent today of like fifty

1021
00:57:41.159 --> 00:57:44.480
<v Speaker 9>million dollars. So there was one hundred and fifty million

1022
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:49.280
<v Speaker 9>dollars missing from this ride. And they say that he

1023
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:53.519
<v Speaker 9>handed it over to members of the Knights of the

1024
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:57.599
<v Speaker 9>Golden Circle and they hid it all over the country

1025
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:00.000
<v Speaker 9>as stashus because they said they wanted to have another

1026
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:03.079
<v Speaker 9>enough money put back for when the South rose again,

1027
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:07.000
<v Speaker 9>they'd have enough money to have an army. And then

1028
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.199
<v Speaker 9>you have all these treasure hunters to this day talking

1029
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:12.960
<v Speaker 9>about the mystery glyphs all over the world. Even Jesse

1030
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:14.159
<v Speaker 9>James is tied into this.

1031
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:15.360
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1032
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:19.079
<v Speaker 9>You find all of these symbols and coded language that

1033
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:21.079
<v Speaker 9>is known to be associated with the Knights of the

1034
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:25.519
<v Speaker 9>Golden Circle and its treasure maps leading to all these stashes.

1035
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:28.480
<v Speaker 9>Is the is the tail. So they had all this money,

1036
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.320
<v Speaker 9>it would be nothing for them to shell out some

1037
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:34.599
<v Speaker 9>money to send somebody that's helped them and it's a

1038
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 9>brother of theirs to start a new life in India.

1039
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.079
<v Speaker 6>Well, all over Missouri they have caves that they claim

1040
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:46.519
<v Speaker 6>Jesse James Stash is golden or stashing the money. But

1041
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 6>you know that that whole thing really smacks of the

1042
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.880
<v Speaker 6>Knight's Templar, because if you know about Oak Island, you

1043
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.920
<v Speaker 6>know they've got these huge treasure vaults and you know

1044
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:58.159
<v Speaker 6>this whole treasure Train and all the rest of the

1045
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:01.320
<v Speaker 6>stuff about the South Rising and grind very very similar

1046
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.480
<v Speaker 6>to that. And just recently they took down the Roberty

1047
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:08.119
<v Speaker 6>Lee statue and inside of it was a time capsule

1048
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 6>and you could you could watch on the videos on

1049
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.360
<v Speaker 6>live video, this woman is going through all the artifacts

1050
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.840
<v Speaker 6>inside of this time capsule and she pulls out a

1051
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:21.000
<v Speaker 6>postcard by the Knight's Templar inside of the Roberty Lee

1052
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 6>statue and she she lifts it up and you could

1053
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 6>audibly hear her say, oh, no, is it not supposed

1054
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:30.800
<v Speaker 6>to talk about that? You know there it is right

1055
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:34.039
<v Speaker 6>there in the baskit here.

1056
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:36.960
<v Speaker 3>What she knows.

1057
00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:40.440
<v Speaker 6>She does the mythology, and she doesn't want to get

1058
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:42.199
<v Speaker 6>bogged out with that because again this is one of

1059
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:44.280
<v Speaker 6>the oldest conspiracies in the United States.

1060
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.559
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm. And this also sounds like the plot for

1061
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:52.320
<v Speaker 3>National Treasure two.

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00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:59.480
<v Speaker 9>Uh, because one of the main consultants for that movie

1063
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:04.719
<v Speaker 9>was Bob Brewer, and he's a world famous treasure hunter

1064
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:10.079
<v Speaker 9>and you know what, he's famous for hunting and finding

1065
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:13.599
<v Speaker 9>these treasure troves from the Knights of the Golden Circle.

1066
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:18.239
<v Speaker 9>He's the expert on all these temples and stuff, and

1067
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:21.119
<v Speaker 9>so National Treasure reached out to him and he was

1068
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:22.679
<v Speaker 9>a consultant for that show.

1069
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.079
<v Speaker 7>Well, you've got so you brought up Oak Island.

1070
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:29.480
<v Speaker 8>The guys in Oak Island were also looking for the uh,

1071
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:34.039
<v Speaker 8>one of the stashes of Confederate gold that allegedly h

1072
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.840
<v Speaker 8>thank in Lake Michigan, like some of the barges or something.

1073
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 8>So that's that's a pretty crazy one. It was a

1074
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:48.519
<v Speaker 8>deathbed confession and all kinds of stuff going on there.

1075
01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:49.760
<v Speaker 8>It's a crazy story too.

1076
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.360
<v Speaker 9>Anyway, they caught them sentinels because the money they give

1077
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:56.599
<v Speaker 9>the tropes to these guys, and they caught them sentinels

1078
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.880
<v Speaker 9>and they were to guard this with their life. And

1079
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:02.800
<v Speaker 9>then when they died, you know, or it was close

1080
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:05.519
<v Speaker 9>to dying, they would have to pass it to another sentinel,

1081
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:09.000
<v Speaker 9>which was their son or something like that. And you know,

1082
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.159
<v Speaker 9>it's a good possibility that some of these kids would

1083
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 9>be like, I don't believe it's junk, or I ain't

1084
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.760
<v Speaker 9>doing that, and they wentn't thinking, you know, because when

1085
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:20.360
<v Speaker 9>they were making these carvings in these stones and in

1086
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:22.800
<v Speaker 9>these trees, because they've done a lot of them in trees,

1087
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:26.280
<v Speaker 9>it's been you know, one hundred years, one hundred and

1088
01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:29.519
<v Speaker 9>fifty years. Those trees that were once eye level are

1089
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:31.559
<v Speaker 9>now way up here and you can't even see them anymore.

1090
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:35.599
<v Speaker 9>But to corroborate that whole story with him going to India,

1091
01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 9>there's a lot of people say, oh, you can just

1092
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:41.599
<v Speaker 9>make up anything, but there's a document trail with that one.

1093
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Also.

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01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.639
<v Speaker 9>When he died in eighteen eighty three, this was eighteen

1095
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:51.280
<v Speaker 9>years after his supposed death. He was executed in India

1096
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:55.920
<v Speaker 9>for a crime. But before they killed him, they allowed

1097
01:01:56.000 --> 01:02:00.159
<v Speaker 9>him to leave a last will and testament. And in

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01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.519
<v Speaker 9>the will and testament, I'll read you some of the

1099
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:03.880
<v Speaker 9>stuff here and why I kind of told you is

1100
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:06.440
<v Speaker 9>a little bit about this pre roll. But in his

1101
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:11.800
<v Speaker 9>will it says twenty five thousand dollars to oga Rita

1102
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:16.760
<v Speaker 9>Rosalie Wilkes, and it says in quotation natural air of

1103
01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:21.440
<v Speaker 9>my body. She was Boost's daughter by his wife Azola.

1104
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 9>Then another twenty yeah, another twenty five thousand dollars to

1105
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:31.400
<v Speaker 9>marry Louis Turner, and it says, in quotations natural heir

1106
01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:35.320
<v Speaker 9>of my body. This was the daughter of John's mistress

1107
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:38.840
<v Speaker 9>of the time of Lincoln's murder, Ella Turner. And then

1108
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:42.199
<v Speaker 9>it says one thousand dollars a year to Henry Johnson,

1109
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:46.679
<v Speaker 9>quote a free negro, to whom I owe my very life.

1110
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:50.400
<v Speaker 9>Johnson was Boost's personal valet who helped him escape up

1111
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:54.360
<v Speaker 9>to Harber's ferry in West Virginia. So why would an

1112
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:58.440
<v Speaker 9>Englishman living in India care so much for all of

1113
01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:02.280
<v Speaker 9>John Wilkes, Booth's wife's girlfriend's daughters in Vallet.

1114
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good fucking question. I have a question too, though,

1115
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:14.239
<v Speaker 3>How do we know that they didn't set this whole

1116
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.079
<v Speaker 3>fucking thing up for the other guy to get shot

1117
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:21.360
<v Speaker 3>instead of him, Like that was part of the plan

1118
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:25.239
<v Speaker 3>all along, and Boyd or whatever the fuck his name

1119
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:28.480
<v Speaker 3>was just didn't know it. He was like an unwilling

1120
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.559
<v Speaker 3>participant in his own death kind of thing.

1121
01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it could have very well been, because you know what.

1122
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:39.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's like for him to have this life

1123
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:43.320
<v Speaker 3>at well, yeah, because it's like he went on to

1124
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:47.039
<v Speaker 3>live this kind of exotic life. You know, he's going here, there,

1125
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:50.599
<v Speaker 3>he's married to this person, that person, changing his name,

1126
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:54.800
<v Speaker 3>going to India. It's like it was set up for

1127
01:03:54.920 --> 01:04:01.880
<v Speaker 3>him to get away basically, which by the way, I

1128
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:07.800
<v Speaker 3>do right. But it's like it's like with Oswald. I

1129
01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:11.239
<v Speaker 3>don't think the body that's in the casket that they

1130
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:13.679
<v Speaker 3>buried and said this is Oswald. I don't even know

1131
01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:18.079
<v Speaker 3>if that's actually Oswald. And it's just like some dude

1132
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 3>that they fucking killed and oh yeah, we got him, guys,

1133
01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:25.199
<v Speaker 3>we shot him instead, like they they fake a lot

1134
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 3>of this stuff, even going back to you know, Civil

1135
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:32.159
<v Speaker 3>War days, I still think they were faking people's death

1136
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:36.320
<v Speaker 3>and ship and fucking covering stuff up. So I mean

1137
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:39.360
<v Speaker 3>just saying goods.

1138
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:42.960
<v Speaker 9>And it was proven on a lot of them that

1139
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:44.639
<v Speaker 9>they were freaking their desk back then, because like we

1140
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.639
<v Speaker 9>said earlier, you know, it was very easy during this

1141
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:55.000
<v Speaker 9>death like six times.

1142
01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:59.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, one thing I keep coming back to is how

1143
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:02.159
<v Speaker 6>lit it would be to be on a conspiracy podcast

1144
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:06.000
<v Speaker 6>in the eighteen seventies. The holy fuck they had all

1145
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:07.079
<v Speaker 6>the good ship back then.

1146
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Did you guys watch Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter?

1147
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.599
<v Speaker 7>I did. It's quite entertainment.

1148
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:16.079
<v Speaker 5>I liked it.

1149
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:20.360
<v Speaker 7>It was quite entertaining. Are you telling me it's a

1150
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:27.320
<v Speaker 7>fucking president? Damn, that's it? A vampires.

1151
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:31.280
<v Speaker 3>What we don't know is part of the John Wilkes

1152
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:36.320
<v Speaker 3>boost story is that they were actually all hunting fucking vampires. Yeah,

1153
01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:40.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, I actually really liked that movie. Every time

1154
01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:42.559
<v Speaker 3>I ask somebody if they watched it, they asked me

1155
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:45.320
<v Speaker 3>if I'm retarded or something like, it's like, why would

1156
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:49.320
<v Speaker 3>you even watch something called Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter? But

1157
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:52.039
<v Speaker 3>it's actually really good, and they color is.

1158
01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:53.719
<v Speaker 7>Really cool with him sitting in that.

1159
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:57.679
<v Speaker 3>Chair, right, yeah, and he's got like his axe and yeah.

1160
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:02.599
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think that he did live a double life.

1161
01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Though I don't know if he was a fucking vampire hunter,

1162
01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:07.960
<v Speaker 3>but I do think he led a double life. Lincoln,

1163
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:12.880
<v Speaker 3>did I think that this whole thing? Probably?

1164
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:18.280
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he like giant hole.

1165
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:20.039
<v Speaker 3>He just likes to get it plugged.

1166
01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:22.000
<v Speaker 2>We always come back to this.

1167
01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:30.119
<v Speaker 6>Sleep as another dude.

1168
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:34.400
<v Speaker 7>Didn't there's actually some of the times headless.

1169
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:40.360
<v Speaker 9>Probably, but I had a friends see me a reel today.

1170
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:43.840
<v Speaker 9>It said more proof that the giants are real, and

1171
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.000
<v Speaker 9>it showed these guys like in his ship pulling up

1172
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:48.239
<v Speaker 9>something from the bottom of the ocean and it was

1173
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:50.400
<v Speaker 9>a huge like iron butt plug.

1174
01:06:52.280 --> 01:07:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Literally literally. Yeah, but didn't the Lincoln Sun die weird too,

1175
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:06.400
<v Speaker 3>like at a young age or something like that. And

1176
01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:10.000
<v Speaker 3>there's like some weird to stuff around. Yeah. See, that's

1177
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:12.760
<v Speaker 3>that comes from the weird nuffle and bloodline, those those

1178
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:16.079
<v Speaker 3>blood disorders and the you know but stuff.

1179
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:23.280
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, extra fingers, genetical malfunctions.

1180
01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:25.840
<v Speaker 7>I actually know a guy who has six toes.

1181
01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:31.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh you know.

1182
01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I six fingers.

1183
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:35.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1184
01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:39.039
<v Speaker 5>I was told the extra digits remove the plastic surgeries

1185
01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:40.800
<v Speaker 5>a lot more common than.

1186
01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:42.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, exactly.

1187
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:42.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1188
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:47.679
<v Speaker 7>Well I want another blood type too, would.

1189
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:48.679
<v Speaker 3>You say about the blood type?

1190
01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:54.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so they're probably all our H negative Oh.

1191
01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, I mean I think I heard something about

1192
01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:01.800
<v Speaker 3>oh negative being significant to you. Yeah, it could be

1193
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:06.360
<v Speaker 3>like the royal family kind of covets the o nags.

1194
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:10.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, because it's a it's just a who knows.

1195
01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:12.880
<v Speaker 8>I mean, that's a whole other episode.

1196
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:20.479
<v Speaker 3>I do have suspicions though about Lincoln. I mean, like

1197
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:25.600
<v Speaker 3>his weird height, and like the seances and ship at

1198
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:28.279
<v Speaker 3>that White House, their kid wife.

1199
01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:30.039
<v Speaker 7>Really a lot of weird stuff too.

1200
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:35.239
<v Speaker 6>The Lincoln monument, I mean, they make him super huge.

1201
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:38.399
<v Speaker 6>They put him in this Roman style temple at the

1202
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:39.960
<v Speaker 6>end of this reflecting pool.

1203
01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Like there's almost right, there's.

1204
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:45.840
<v Speaker 6>Something really religious about that place, and they were going

1205
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:49.359
<v Speaker 6>for something that it was an ancient religion with the

1206
01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:50.920
<v Speaker 6>entire layout of Washington, d C.

1207
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:55.880
<v Speaker 3>So having made him a giant, as if symbolism wasn't

1208
01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:58.720
<v Speaker 3>enough for them, they have to like came and make

1209
01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.199
<v Speaker 3>him a giant that looks over everybody. And it's you know.

1210
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:09.000
<v Speaker 7>Sitting there looking down water. I can't even say it,

1211
01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:10.600
<v Speaker 7>do you do?

1212
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:13.119
<v Speaker 6>You know the significance of that reflecting pool.

1213
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:17.479
<v Speaker 2>It's imagine a while, well.

1214
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:21.239
<v Speaker 6>It could be, but yeah, there's there's high, high level

1215
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:26.640
<v Speaker 6>of goddess magicing on there. So during the ancient Roman days,

1216
01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:30.039
<v Speaker 6>they had this place called the Diana's Mirror, right, this

1217
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.800
<v Speaker 6>was the district for Diana, and they had this big

1218
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:39.199
<v Speaker 6>reflecting pool and this is talked about James George Fraser's

1219
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:41.880
<v Speaker 6>Golden Bow. This was where they would have the Golden

1220
01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:44.079
<v Speaker 6>Bow ritual where they would have the death of a

1221
01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:49.000
<v Speaker 6>king ritual, right, and so Diana Nemorensis was the name

1222
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 6>of the goddess there. And this Diana Nemorensis ritual would

1223
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:56.760
<v Speaker 6>take place where a escaped slave or you know, some

1224
01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:00.279
<v Speaker 6>other prisoner would go to this grove and then pull

1225
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:02.520
<v Speaker 6>a bough off at the top of the tree, and

1226
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 6>then the old king of the grove would have to

1227
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:08.800
<v Speaker 6>fight this new guy, and whoever killed the other one

1228
01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:10.319
<v Speaker 6>would become the new king of the grove.

1229
01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:11.279
<v Speaker 5>Right.

1230
01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:14.199
<v Speaker 6>And what we see in Washington, DC, is we've got

1231
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:18.039
<v Speaker 6>this statue on top of the Capitol Building, which is

1232
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:22.960
<v Speaker 6>highly emblematic of kind of this Diana Artemis character.

1233
01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:23.840
<v Speaker 5>Right.

1234
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:27.079
<v Speaker 6>So we've got Diana Artemis right there on top of this,

1235
01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:31.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, Isis's belly right in front of the Washington Monument,

1236
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:34.680
<v Speaker 6>which is clearly a penis. And then you've got the great, big,

1237
01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:37.079
<v Speaker 6>old reflecting pool right there, which is part of this

1238
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:41.199
<v Speaker 6>Diana Nemorensis ritual with the sacrificed king of the grove

1239
01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:42.439
<v Speaker 6>at the other end of it.

1240
01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Mmm. Wow, I've not heard that.

1241
01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:49.319
<v Speaker 9>I always heard like it was kind of like an

1242
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:53.920
<v Speaker 9>imitation of the Egyptian magic, like how the pharaohs were

1243
01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:57.800
<v Speaker 9>the embodiment of the all of Tyrus, and how they

1244
01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:02.560
<v Speaker 9>had that ritual where they would bring him into the temple,

1245
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.840
<v Speaker 9>and then when the shadow of the obulisk went into

1246
01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:09.279
<v Speaker 9>the domed temple where the pharaoh was, it was a conception,

1247
01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:13.840
<v Speaker 9>and therefore Osiris was born into his body and kind

1248
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:16.520
<v Speaker 9>of possessed him, and he came out the god king.

1249
01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:19.680
<v Speaker 9>And that's while we have that whole presidential thing that

1250
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:22.119
<v Speaker 9>you know, he meets in that womb and they have

1251
01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 9>their you know, consults, but then he moves from there

1252
01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:29.600
<v Speaker 9>to the stage in front of that phallus and gives

1253
01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:31.279
<v Speaker 9>his speech and stuff. So it was kind of like,

1254
01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:34.039
<v Speaker 9>I've always heard that that's a like a remake of that.

1255
01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:36.199
<v Speaker 9>I hadn't heard that that's wild.

1256
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:40.479
<v Speaker 6>In this book, The Golden Ass, this is a second

1257
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:44.720
<v Speaker 6>century Latin sort of like a pulp book that they

1258
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:48.000
<v Speaker 6>had fiction back then, right, So this is really old.

1259
01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:50.399
<v Speaker 6>He goes back to that time period. They still have

1260
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:55.520
<v Speaker 6>the cults of Isis and Osiris active in the second century, right,

1261
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:59.840
<v Speaker 6>so this stuff was not foreign to that time period.

1262
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:03.840
<v Speaker 6>They're depicting in Washington, DC. Right, They had all of

1263
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:08.119
<v Speaker 6>those cults sort of merge into organizations like the Freemasons,

1264
01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:10.800
<v Speaker 6>the Knights, Templar, all these other you know, sort of

1265
01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:14.159
<v Speaker 6>secret societies kept that stuff moving, and those are the

1266
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:15.479
<v Speaker 6>people who founded America.

1267
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:18.199
<v Speaker 7>M hm yeah.

1268
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<v Speaker 5>And then there's all that stuff like.

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<v Speaker 7>See somebody, do.

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<v Speaker 3>You think like, sorry, do you think like Lincoln actually

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01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:32.680
<v Speaker 3>was assassinated to like just in my opinion, my humble opinion.

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01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 3>You guys can disagree with me. I think a lot

1273
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:38.880
<v Speaker 3>of this stuff, even back then, is like fake and staged.

1274
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:43.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean literally an actor shot him, you know what

1275
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:47.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean. It just makes me wonder if he even

1276
01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:52.000
<v Speaker 3>is dead at all, because there's like this he became

1277
01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:56.920
<v Speaker 3>like almost like saint like after his death and honest

1278
01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.079
<v Speaker 3>dabe and all this, and he was actually like a

1279
01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:03.640
<v Speaker 3>pretty unsavor motherfucker, Like he wasn't like this stand up

1280
01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:07.399
<v Speaker 3>guy that he's made out to be, but in death

1281
01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:13.039
<v Speaker 3>he's kind of like become this you know, honest abe

1282
01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:15.640
<v Speaker 3>and he was so great and all this stuff.

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01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:21.680
<v Speaker 9>Once you died, you're so great then, you know, right, right,

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01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:23.239
<v Speaker 9>that's the point.

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01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:27.000
<v Speaker 6>That's the point of the ritual, right is it makes

1286
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:31.000
<v Speaker 6>everybody sad, and it lionizes the victim, and it changes

1287
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:34.439
<v Speaker 6>the trajectory of history, you know. And if you have

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01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:37.680
<v Speaker 6>you ever heard of King Kill thirty three, this is

1289
01:13:37.720 --> 01:13:41.239
<v Speaker 6>a popular one back of the late seventies, but I

1290
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:44.640
<v Speaker 6>think it was all about how the Freemasons were the

1291
01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:48.079
<v Speaker 6>ones who killed Kennedy, going along with this King Kill

1292
01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:51.279
<v Speaker 6>thirty three ritual, which comes directly out of the Golden

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01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:55.079
<v Speaker 6>Bough by J. G. Fraser. So they're talking about that

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01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:58.640
<v Speaker 6>back then. And then you look at the architecture of Washington,

1295
01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.439
<v Speaker 6>DC and how it matches up with all of these

1296
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:06.000
<v Speaker 6>different factors that are going on, like especially the Virginia flag. Right,

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01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:09.319
<v Speaker 6>You've got this woman with her breast exposed, she's standing

1298
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:12.279
<v Speaker 6>on top of a guy saying, thus always the tyrants,

1299
01:14:12.279 --> 01:14:15.479
<v Speaker 6>and that was made way way way back in the day.

1300
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:18.439
<v Speaker 6>But like that same sort of spirit is carried through

1301
01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:21.560
<v Speaker 6>through this assassination. There's a definite callback to some of

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01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:26.840
<v Speaker 6>the earliest times in American history going through these different characters.

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01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Because that's exactly what he's said.

1304
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:34.720
<v Speaker 3>The U the UH like look at these two assassinations, right,

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01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Lincoln and JFK. Before JFK, and there's a quote by

1306
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Lyndon B. Johnson, and he was like, oh, we'll have

1307
01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:49.239
<v Speaker 3>those inwards voting democrat from you guys know the quote.

1308
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:54.359
<v Speaker 3>Right before that, it was like everybody kind of held

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01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:57.720
<v Speaker 3>Lincoln up as this like savior of the slaves and

1310
01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:01.199
<v Speaker 3>he free and you know, it was like, everybody vote

1311
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Republican because he's the one who freed us. And then

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01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:07.680
<v Speaker 3>it was like JFK also assassinated, and then Lyndon B.

1313
01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Johnson's like, we'll have those inwards voting democrat from here

1314
01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:14.239
<v Speaker 3>on out or something. It's like some weird cultural shift.

1315
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:20.479
<v Speaker 3>But both are marked by huge assassinations that changed history forever.

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01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:24.760
<v Speaker 3>So are they really dead? I don't know. Is it

1317
01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:28.920
<v Speaker 3>like an agenda to like push narratives and make people

1318
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:32.720
<v Speaker 3>saint like? Because JFK is also like saint like after

1319
01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:33.239
<v Speaker 3>he died.

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01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:37.199
<v Speaker 6>Also, these events are also accompanied by Communism. There's a

1321
01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:40.359
<v Speaker 6>lot of Marxism that goes in and around these characters. Like,

1322
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:43.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, Lincoln was writing to Karl Marx like this

1323
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:47.439
<v Speaker 6>was the start of what Marxism was. Is their whole

1324
01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:50.640
<v Speaker 6>exchange back and forth. And then what we see in

1325
01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:53.279
<v Speaker 6>the nineteen sixties going on with all the hippie movement

1326
01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:57.479
<v Speaker 6>and all the communism and liberalism, that these are revolutions

1327
01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.640
<v Speaker 6>that are taking place. We're just sick from the outside

1328
01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:03.359
<v Speaker 6>instead of looking at the whole picture.

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01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:06.079
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that the Civil War,

1330
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:09.640
<v Speaker 9>like I said, it wasn't over slavery. It was over

1331
01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:15.119
<v Speaker 9>a kingly tyrant forest. There was one section of the

1332
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:17.680
<v Speaker 9>country with a bunch of rich elites that was controlling

1333
01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:20.479
<v Speaker 9>the destiny of America, and the Southern state stood up

1334
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:23.560
<v Speaker 9>and try to rebel, and they squashed him back into submission.

1335
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:25.760
<v Speaker 9>I told a buddy at work I was talking about this.

1336
01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:29.000
<v Speaker 9>I said, imagine if you had a girlfriend and you

1337
01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:31.319
<v Speaker 9>guys were together and happy, and all of a sudden,

1338
01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:33.399
<v Speaker 9>she comes home and says, you know, she's unhappy, she

1339
01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:37.000
<v Speaker 9>doesn't want to be with you anymore, and leaves. That's

1340
01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:40.640
<v Speaker 9>kind of what happened here. But then the boyfriend goes after,

1341
01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:43.720
<v Speaker 9>smacks her around, blacks both of her eyes and bloodies

1342
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:45.760
<v Speaker 9>her her mouth, knocks her few teeth out, and drags

1343
01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:48.119
<v Speaker 9>her back home. And now we're going to live all together,

1344
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:49.479
<v Speaker 9>peacefully and happily.

1345
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:51.319
<v Speaker 7>For sometime.

1346
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:52.399
<v Speaker 2>How does that work?

1347
01:16:55.319 --> 01:16:57.680
<v Speaker 6>Really well? I think what really kicked it off was

1348
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:00.479
<v Speaker 6>Fort Sumter, because they're saying, look, you can have this

1349
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:03.840
<v Speaker 6>union for it in the South. This has got to go. Yeah,

1350
01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:06.279
<v Speaker 6>and they didn't want to go and they're like, you

1351
01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:07.800
<v Speaker 6>got to get the fuck out of here. So they

1352
01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:12.319
<v Speaker 6>attacked Fort Sumter back before Abraham Lincoln and nothing happened.

1353
01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:14.159
<v Speaker 6>So they thought they could do it again and nothing

1354
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:16.399
<v Speaker 6>would happen again. But that's what kicked off the whole thing.

1355
01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:18.840
<v Speaker 6>And you know, people were out there at bull Run

1356
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:23.640
<v Speaker 6>actually picnicking over the battlegrounds because they thought, oh, well,

1357
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:25.279
<v Speaker 6>this is just gonna be a short thing. We'll go

1358
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:27.479
<v Speaker 6>out and see the battle and it'll all be over

1359
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:30.920
<v Speaker 6>with soon. But it wasn't, and it just kept escalating

1360
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:32.760
<v Speaker 6>and escalating. People didn't want to believe that it was

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01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:33.600
<v Speaker 6>actually starting.

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01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:36.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, in the Civil War. That was the the death

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01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:39.039
<v Speaker 9>of the Republic as we know it.

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01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:42.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1365
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:49.920
<v Speaker 3>So John Wilkes Booth's descendants or whatever, he had some kids, right, like,

1366
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:54.119
<v Speaker 3>how do you like, did they know? And if they knew,

1367
01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:58.560
<v Speaker 3>how do you even tell people that? Like you go

1368
01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:02.159
<v Speaker 3>to school and you're like, Mike, he killed Abraham Lincoln?

1369
01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Like how do you keep that a secret? I mean,

1370
01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:07.880
<v Speaker 3>that's did do you think that they knew?

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01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:12.800
<v Speaker 9>I think that it was just I mean that was

1372
01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:16.359
<v Speaker 9>information didn't travel so far back then, but that was

1373
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:18.479
<v Speaker 9>you know, big news the president, you know, in the

1374
01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:19.079
<v Speaker 9>Civil War.

1375
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:21.600
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if they just went to.

1376
01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:24.840
<v Speaker 9>Home school or what, but definitely that the descendants were

1377
01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:27.760
<v Speaker 9>not proud of it, like the great great grandchildren, that

1378
01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:30.800
<v Speaker 9>that was something that was like the family secret and taboo.

1379
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:34.279
<v Speaker 7>Talk about the time. They were probably like.

1380
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:40.199
<v Speaker 8>Kind of, you know, my dad killed the you know,

1381
01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:42.239
<v Speaker 8>especially if they were from down.

1382
01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:46.079
<v Speaker 7>South, probably probably revered a little bit.

1383
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:47.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, Jesse James.

1384
01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:50.199
<v Speaker 9>He was a hero to the you know, the lower

1385
01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:52.199
<v Speaker 9>class Cistance because they made him out to be the

1386
01:18:52.279 --> 01:18:54.840
<v Speaker 9>Robin Hood. So according to where he's at, some people

1387
01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:56.960
<v Speaker 9>love Jesse James.

1388
01:18:58.079 --> 01:18:59.119
<v Speaker 7>Maybe some of the kids.

1389
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:03.960
<v Speaker 6>Well, guys, I got something to confess. I'm actually John

1390
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:04.680
<v Speaker 6>Wilkes Booth.

1391
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:05.680
<v Speaker 7>Oh my god.

1392
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:08.800
<v Speaker 6>So now you guys believe me. Why would why would

1393
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:10.039
<v Speaker 6>they believe that back then?

1394
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:14.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, everybody, I see, I see where you're going

1395
01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:17.039
<v Speaker 3>with that. That's very true. I mean you could say

1396
01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:22.880
<v Speaker 3>anything right like, it's hard to believe that, especially back then.

1397
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:25.720
<v Speaker 3>It's not like there was a conspiracy theory podcast you

1398
01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:29.000
<v Speaker 3>could listen to if somebody said, like, my dad's John

1399
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Wilkes Booth. They'd be like, okay, what kind of.

1400
01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:36.439
<v Speaker 7>Started screaming about be holes.

1401
01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:41.359
<v Speaker 9>Adjusting the documentary, and somebody threw up the possibility. They said,

1402
01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:44.319
<v Speaker 9>you know, well, what if or how easy would it be?

1403
01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:47.279
<v Speaker 9>You know, John Wilkes Booth in the South was a

1404
01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:50.680
<v Speaker 9>hero to a lot of the Southern people, and he

1405
01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:53.840
<v Speaker 9>was already a famous actor. He was a handsome guy.

1406
01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1407
01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:57.399
<v Speaker 9>They said the ladies just kind of swooned over him,

1408
01:19:57.399 --> 01:19:59.720
<v Speaker 9>that he had, you know, these dark eyes and could

1409
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:02.119
<v Speaker 9>you know, manipulate people and kind of put a spell

1410
01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:05.319
<v Speaker 9>on people. He was just, you know, really charismatic guy.

1411
01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:11.840
<v Speaker 9>How tempting would it be for a young man, uh

1412
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:15.720
<v Speaker 9>to go down south and tell some girl that's totally

1413
01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:18.680
<v Speaker 9>out of his league, like, hey, he may not realize

1414
01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:23.359
<v Speaker 9>it or not, but I'm kind of a big deal.

1415
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:25.520
<v Speaker 9>You didn't know it, knock up a bunch of girls

1416
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:27.199
<v Speaker 9>and leave town. And they're like, oh, yeah, I met

1417
01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:28.079
<v Speaker 9>John Wills Booth, I.

1418
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:28.680
<v Speaker 5>Had his baby.

1419
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:33.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, who's reading the medical report that says that he

1420
01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:35.039
<v Speaker 6>broke the wrong leg?

1421
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:35.560
<v Speaker 5>You know.

1422
01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Robert May I think was his name.

1423
01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:46.079
<v Speaker 8>So somebody in the comments, some of me to comment

1424
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:52.600
<v Speaker 8>about Pascal Beverly Randolph Boom and dude, if you just

1425
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:56.399
<v Speaker 8>telling everybody out there if he has known who that is, wow,

1426
01:20:56.680 --> 01:20:57.840
<v Speaker 8>that's a freaking rabbit hole.

1427
01:20:57.960 --> 01:20:59.159
<v Speaker 7>The good there.

1428
01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:01.399
<v Speaker 6>He brought sex magic to America.

1429
01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, basically, And you're saying Wilkes or uh Abraham Lincoln

1430
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:10.600
<v Speaker 3>was friends with this person.

1431
01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:14.000
<v Speaker 8>Right, Somebody on there said that that Lincoln was, but

1432
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:18.199
<v Speaker 8>I could find them. I couldn't find any links. But

1433
01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:21.159
<v Speaker 8>you know that doesn't mean it. I'm not like some

1434
01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:23.399
<v Speaker 8>you know, wizard or something that can.

1435
01:21:23.920 --> 01:21:27.000
<v Speaker 6>Well he went on to make Beverly Hall right, Beverly

1436
01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:27.560
<v Speaker 6>Hall up.

1437
01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:32.399
<v Speaker 8>And yeah, there's definitely some overlap there. But whether or

1438
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:34.800
<v Speaker 8>not they actually knew each other, I don't know, but

1439
01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:39.720
<v Speaker 8>there's definitely some overlap, especially when you get in that

1440
01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:44.239
<v Speaker 8>they were in the same circles. And I mean both

1441
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:49.239
<v Speaker 8>Lincoln and his wife were deeply curious about spiritualism and

1442
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:52.760
<v Speaker 8>stuff like that because of their the tragedy with their

1443
01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:53.960
<v Speaker 8>son and other shit.

1444
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:58.199
<v Speaker 9>So I mean, look, I remember reading somewhere his wife,

1445
01:21:58.239 --> 01:21:59.960
<v Speaker 9>well I think one he's kind of alluded to it,

1446
01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:02.319
<v Speaker 9>but I have not looked looked into it. But I've

1447
01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:05.159
<v Speaker 9>heard more than one place that she was kind of

1448
01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:07.720
<v Speaker 9>a she was kind of witchy. Yeah, was known to

1449
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:10.520
<v Speaker 9>contact the dead and.

1450
01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:11.560
<v Speaker 2>All that kind of stuff.

1451
01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:14.640
<v Speaker 8>Really because he was she was trying to contact her son.

1452
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:17.399
<v Speaker 8>I think was a lot of the driver for us.

1453
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:18.840
<v Speaker 8>But that's all it takes.

1454
01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:19.680
<v Speaker 7>Man.

1455
01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:25.800
<v Speaker 8>But Lincoln was also known to have like prophetic dreams

1456
01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:29.439
<v Speaker 8>as well. It's another story that I that I see

1457
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:32.560
<v Speaker 8>in there a lot, and I think there's a story

1458
01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:38.560
<v Speaker 8>of him having a dream weeks prior to his assassination

1459
01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:41.760
<v Speaker 8>that he was going to get assassinated and how it

1460
01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:43.680
<v Speaker 8>was done like he dreamt it.

1461
01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:46.760
<v Speaker 6>He was at his own funeral and he was asking

1462
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:49.079
<v Speaker 6>people about who was right.

1463
01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:54.039
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it was a Daniel Davy Crockett, you know, the

1464
01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:58.039
<v Speaker 9>famous Tennessee pioneer. Yeah, from my state. I did a

1465
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:00.800
<v Speaker 9>show with the doctor Judd Burton back and I did

1466
01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:02.840
<v Speaker 9>not know this, and I felt ashamed because he was

1467
01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:06.039
<v Speaker 9>from my state. But when I was writing my book,

1468
01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:09.119
<v Speaker 9>you know, he was like, hey, did you know that

1469
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:13.960
<v Speaker 9>two of your pioneer heroes from Tennessee had big Foot encounters?

1470
01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:18.159
<v Speaker 9>He said, Davy Crockett and Daniel Brim Daniel I had one,

1471
01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:20.239
<v Speaker 9>And I said, no, I didn't. He did a show

1472
01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:22.800
<v Speaker 9>with me, and he was saying that Davy Crockett when

1473
01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:26.600
<v Speaker 9>he went to Texas to fight at the Alamo. On

1474
01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:32.560
<v Speaker 9>the way there, he said that Harry a humanoid human.

1475
01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:34.199
<v Speaker 9>That's how he described it in his letter, because he

1476
01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:37.600
<v Speaker 9>wrote a letter back home and described this Harry, you know,

1477
01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:42.319
<v Speaker 9>covered in Harry human approached him and spoke with him

1478
01:23:42.960 --> 01:23:47.199
<v Speaker 9>and said, Davy Crockett, go home, go back to Tennessee.

1479
01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:52.319
<v Speaker 9>You will find nothing but death here. And he actually

1480
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:54.359
<v Speaker 9>wrote that in his letter and sent it home. He said,

1481
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:56.880
<v Speaker 9>maybe I ate some bad meat or something, but I

1482
01:23:56.920 --> 01:24:00.159
<v Speaker 9>saw this, and then he went on to text is

1483
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:00.800
<v Speaker 9>to die.

1484
01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:04.479
<v Speaker 6>This is what a lot of Native Americans say about

1485
01:24:05.039 --> 01:24:09.039
<v Speaker 6>the Bigfoot, is that they're messengers, right, and whether or

1486
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:12.880
<v Speaker 6>not you're scared of them or not determines on whether

1487
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.239
<v Speaker 6>or not you're going to get the message. So what

1488
01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:17.800
<v Speaker 6>they'll say is if you if you bring a bigfoot

1489
01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:19.720
<v Speaker 6>encounter to a Native American, they'll be like, yeah, what

1490
01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:22.279
<v Speaker 6>did he tell you? You're like, tell me, no, he

1491
01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:26.319
<v Speaker 6>was just scary and I ran away. But Daniel Boone's

1492
01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:28.880
<v Speaker 6>having the experience where he didn't run, he was calm,

1493
01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:32.119
<v Speaker 6>and then he gets this message that was a prophetic vision,

1494
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:36.079
<v Speaker 6>so like we probably don't have the Bigfoot thing in

1495
01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:37.039
<v Speaker 6>perspective at all.

1496
01:24:37.720 --> 01:24:49.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, right, shameless product placement. So you know, there's tons

1497
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:57.039
<v Speaker 8>of stories from uh, I mean, dozens of native tribes

1498
01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:04.600
<v Speaker 8>that talk about them trade and communicating and whatnot with you.

1499
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:06.680
<v Speaker 7>Know, nothing.

1500
01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:09.920
<v Speaker 8>You can't describe it as other than bigfoot. But they

1501
01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:13.840
<v Speaker 8>were in tribes and they just called them. They were

1502
01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:19.760
<v Speaker 8>different another tribe that lived in the area, So I mean, yeah,

1503
01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:24.479
<v Speaker 8>feral giants like the giants, right, I think there.

1504
01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Are probably a lot like how people depict the Mothman

1505
01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:33.079
<v Speaker 3>being some kind of harbinger of doom and a messenger

1506
01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:36.880
<v Speaker 3>of whatever. I do have to say though, and you know,

1507
01:25:37.319 --> 01:25:39.840
<v Speaker 3>call me an asshole, but I was listening to this

1508
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:42.479
<v Speaker 3>like conspiracy radio show the other night and there was

1509
01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:45.159
<v Speaker 3>this old guy on there and he was like, I've

1510
01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:48.920
<v Speaker 3>been to a Bigfoot wedding, and I've seen bigfoots give

1511
01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:52.239
<v Speaker 3>birth and I've seen and it's like I'm sitting here,

1512
01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:56.279
<v Speaker 3>the host of a conspiracy podcast, going this guy's on

1513
01:25:56.399 --> 01:26:00.880
<v Speaker 3>fucking crack, Like there's no way he's like going to

1514
01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot weddings and like like there's there's too much there's

1515
01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:05.680
<v Speaker 3>like a line.

1516
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:09.039
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of.

1517
01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:13.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, because when you tell somebody you have a

1518
01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:16.600
<v Speaker 3>conspiracy theory podcast, they're like, oh yeah, like Bigfoot and

1519
01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:19.479
<v Speaker 3>like Area fifty one and stuff, And I'm like, actually,

1520
01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:22.439
<v Speaker 3>that's like the least that I ever talk about ever.

1521
01:26:22.600 --> 01:26:22.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't.

1522
01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:26.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's you know, I appreciate it when people

1523
01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:29.239
<v Speaker 3>have cool stories to tell about that stuff, But for me,

1524
01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:32.000
<v Speaker 3>it's like it's hard for me to think, like, somebody's

1525
01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:35.319
<v Speaker 3>out there just barbecuing in their backyard and a book.

1526
01:26:35.399 --> 01:26:37.199
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot walks up and it's like you want to come

1527
01:26:37.239 --> 01:26:41.840
<v Speaker 3>to my wedding, and you know, like I don't. It's

1528
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:46.000
<v Speaker 3>hard for me to comprehend that. But I do think

1529
01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:49.640
<v Speaker 3>they could be some kind of spiritual being, Like I said,

1530
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:52.960
<v Speaker 3>a lot like with the moth Man thing. I think

1531
01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:56.880
<v Speaker 3>that they could be like interdimensional type beings. I don't know,

1532
01:26:57.159 --> 01:27:03.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, they're having weddings and just inviting random dudes

1533
01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:04.560
<v Speaker 3>from their backyard.

1534
01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:09.399
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I know, it's no footage of any of this, right.

1535
01:27:09.880 --> 01:27:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh right, yeah, exactly videog Sure.

1536
01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:16.159
<v Speaker 5>It's the worse when it's like I've even had that

1537
01:27:16.199 --> 01:27:17.760
<v Speaker 5>happen on my own show where the person's like, I

1538
01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:19.079
<v Speaker 5>can't tell you where it is and we have no

1539
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:19.880
<v Speaker 5>video of it.

1540
01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:25.159
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, well, I guess he's got pictures of it.

1541
01:27:25.159 --> 01:27:27.319
<v Speaker 6>It's just he had his thumb over the camera lens

1542
01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:27.920
<v Speaker 6>the whole time.

1543
01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, it didn't get backed up onto the cloud.

1544
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:37.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what happened. But it's like, I don't know.

1545
01:27:37.800 --> 01:27:40.399
<v Speaker 3>It's just some things are hard for me to wrap

1546
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:43.720
<v Speaker 3>my brain hole around. But like stuff like what we're

1547
01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:46.479
<v Speaker 3>talking about right now, that's my favorite kind of stuff,

1548
01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:52.279
<v Speaker 3>like serial killers. You know what, was Lincoln actually assassinated

1549
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:52.560
<v Speaker 3>or not?

1550
01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:55.720
<v Speaker 7>We'll never know John actual vampire hunter?

1551
01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Was he an actual vampire hunter. That's just that I

1552
01:27:59.279 --> 01:28:00.399
<v Speaker 3>can get on board with.

1553
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:03.199
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to. I wanted a selfless plug too. I

1554
01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:05.199
<v Speaker 5>guess it's really not for a product. For an episode

1555
01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:08.399
<v Speaker 5>on Halloween, I will be dropping. Uh, I have a

1556
01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:10.119
<v Speaker 5>vampire Lord, but it's a little bit more of a

1557
01:28:10.159 --> 01:28:13.439
<v Speaker 5>twist on it where I think some of it may

1558
01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:15.880
<v Speaker 5>have at least a vampire that I'm describing in that

1559
01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:22.720
<v Speaker 5>show where I think it may have came from. Oh yeah,

1560
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:24.079
<v Speaker 5>that's right, Ben, And I sent you the script to

1561
01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:25.960
<v Speaker 5>look at yeah, because I wanted you to know what

1562
01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:28.600
<v Speaker 5>the fuck I was talking about because I came on. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1563
01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:31.000
<v Speaker 5>thank you. It's very interesting. Uh, definitely check it out

1564
01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:34.000
<v Speaker 5>when it drops. It's uh, it's one of my theories

1565
01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:36.279
<v Speaker 5>on at least. But all right, sorry, keep keep going,

1566
01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:41.279
<v Speaker 5>Gus mhm. Was there anything else yet? You wanted to

1567
01:28:41.319 --> 01:28:43.720
<v Speaker 5>add anything darker? Pretty much?

1568
01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:45.319
<v Speaker 9>No, that was just kind of like I said, I

1569
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:47.840
<v Speaker 9>just found this, you know, like two weeks ago, and

1570
01:28:48.159 --> 01:28:51.439
<v Speaker 9>I found those two stories and kind of correlated with

1571
01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:55.880
<v Speaker 9>the Knights of the Golden Circle. But I am diving deeper,

1572
01:28:56.359 --> 01:28:59.199
<v Speaker 9>like I said, I met this guy, uh named Dan.

1573
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:04.359
<v Speaker 9>He has researched nothing but Jesse James and his seventy

1574
01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:08.359
<v Speaker 9>three aliases and his connections with the Knights of the

1575
01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:11.880
<v Speaker 9>Golden Circle. And I actually he said he come on

1576
01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:13.359
<v Speaker 9>the show and talk with me. But I talked to

1577
01:29:13.399 --> 01:29:15.600
<v Speaker 9>him on the phone just last night. We talked for

1578
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:16.720
<v Speaker 9>almost two hours.

1579
01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:16.880
<v Speaker 5>Man.

1580
01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:19.199
<v Speaker 9>I love this dude. He's right up my alley. We're

1581
01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:21.479
<v Speaker 9>in the same lane on a lot of stuff. But

1582
01:29:21.640 --> 01:29:23.760
<v Speaker 9>he even told me last night, you know which I

1583
01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:26.039
<v Speaker 9>don't know the story behind it. I'm just going off

1584
01:29:26.039 --> 01:29:28.840
<v Speaker 9>what he said, but he said, yeah, I looked at

1585
01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:30.680
<v Speaker 9>your channel because I seen him an email and then

1586
01:29:30.720 --> 01:29:32.760
<v Speaker 9>he'd give me his number. He said, I see it

1587
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:34.680
<v Speaker 9>on your channel. You recently done show on John Wilkes

1588
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:37.439
<v Speaker 9>booth And I said, yeah, I did. And he said,

1589
01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:39.239
<v Speaker 9>you know how he really died?

1590
01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1591
01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:43.279
<v Speaker 9>I said, I've heard a few stories. I said, one

1592
01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:46.520
<v Speaker 9>sounds pretty promising. I said, I wonder if it was

1593
01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:51.000
<v Speaker 9>the Oklahoma arsenic poisoning. And he said, that's what I

1594
01:29:51.039 --> 01:29:53.479
<v Speaker 9>believe it to be. He said, but he didn't commit suicide.

1595
01:29:54.319 --> 01:29:58.279
<v Speaker 9>And I said huh. And he said, Jesse James poisoned

1596
01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:02.399
<v Speaker 9>his drink. He said, because the Knights of the Golden

1597
01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:05.720
<v Speaker 9>Circle knew that the Union and everybody was close on

1598
01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:07.960
<v Speaker 9>his tail. He was about to be apprehended and they

1599
01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:12.119
<v Speaker 9>were afraid he was gonna squeal. So they sent Jesse James,

1600
01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:14.520
<v Speaker 9>because he was there in the area, to go and

1601
01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:17.079
<v Speaker 9>kill John Wills booze our.

1602
01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Snick and his drink and turn him into a fucking

1603
01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:24.039
<v Speaker 3>mummified you know, cheeto puff.

1604
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:33.039
<v Speaker 8>Traveling traveling freak show right to Carneye, who knew well

1605
01:30:33.159 --> 01:30:34.279
<v Speaker 8>Smooth was a Carneye.

1606
01:30:37.239 --> 01:30:43.000
<v Speaker 3>There's a story because I lived in Oklahoma for like

1607
01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:47.720
<v Speaker 3>thirteen years, and there's this story. You can go to

1608
01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:51.960
<v Speaker 3>the grave site and there is actually a haunted bed

1609
01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:55.039
<v Speaker 3>and breakfast, But they tell this story of a guy

1610
01:30:56.279 --> 01:31:02.479
<v Speaker 3>who somehow got mummified and was sold to the circus

1611
01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:05.760
<v Speaker 3>and they hung him up and nobody knew who he

1612
01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:08.960
<v Speaker 3>was and they kind of buried him as like this nameless,

1613
01:31:09.000 --> 01:31:12.359
<v Speaker 3>faceless guy. And I just find it odd that it's

1614
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:16.920
<v Speaker 3>in Oklahoma. You're talking about Wilkes being in Oklahoma and

1615
01:31:16.960 --> 01:31:20.640
<v Speaker 3>there's this this urban legend about a guy who got

1616
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:22.640
<v Speaker 3>turned into a mummy and sold to a circus. And

1617
01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:25.800
<v Speaker 3>now I'm thinking it was it fucking John wilkeson.

1618
01:31:26.439 --> 01:31:27.760
<v Speaker 7>That's possible that.

1619
01:31:29.600 --> 01:31:30.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm serious.

1620
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:31.640
<v Speaker 5>It's like the realist ship.

1621
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:36.800
<v Speaker 6>Wow, fucking Oklahoma thought from Oklahoma.

1622
01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:40.680
<v Speaker 8>Dam they're crazy, you know, I mean like over half

1623
01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:42.279
<v Speaker 8>or what is it, like.

1624
01:31:42.439 --> 01:31:45.600
<v Speaker 7>Two thirds of Oklahoma's federal land.

1625
01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:50.359
<v Speaker 5>Whoa Yo, I was in prison in Oklahoma. That literally

1626
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:53.479
<v Speaker 5>was on the ground under an airport. Yo. You went, Yo,

1627
01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:57.239
<v Speaker 5>this is crazy. You went from the fucking plane. You're

1628
01:31:57.239 --> 01:32:00.000
<v Speaker 5>you're shackled with another this is crazy. I don't even first,

1629
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:01.880
<v Speaker 5>you gotta you get stripped before you can get on

1630
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:04.640
<v Speaker 5>the fucking plane. So you're naked. They check you, you get

1631
01:32:04.640 --> 01:32:06.600
<v Speaker 5>fucking your ship, you put your clothes on, you get

1632
01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:08.880
<v Speaker 5>connected to somebody else. Now you're on a plane. I

1633
01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:10.720
<v Speaker 5>don't know how the fuck you're picking up anything on

1634
01:32:10.760 --> 01:32:13.399
<v Speaker 5>a plane. You go on a plane, you fly to Oklahoma,

1635
01:32:13.720 --> 01:32:16.159
<v Speaker 5>you get off the thing, and you go straight into

1636
01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:20.760
<v Speaker 5>the fucking ground. Nothing, you're not touching anything, and you

1637
01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:23.319
<v Speaker 5>still gotta get fucking stripped again. How the fuck did

1638
01:32:23.319 --> 01:32:24.680
<v Speaker 5>I pick it from?

1639
01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:24.720
<v Speaker 4>What?

1640
01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:26.760
<v Speaker 5>You just want to stare at beeholes?

1641
01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right.

1642
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:33.000
<v Speaker 5>That's part of the reason brings you gotta go.

1643
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:38.720
<v Speaker 9>And it is the inside job, man, because even the

1644
01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:41.880
<v Speaker 9>conspiracy with Billy the kids, you know, supposedly the guy

1645
01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:46.039
<v Speaker 9>that captured him planted a gun in the outhouse and

1646
01:32:46.079 --> 01:32:47.359
<v Speaker 9>then laughed to go.

1647
01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Gather the gallow wood.

1648
01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:52.239
<v Speaker 9>And then when Billy went to the bathroom, he suddenly

1649
01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:55.199
<v Speaker 9>had a gun and killed the guy watching him and escape.

1650
01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:58.960
<v Speaker 2>So maybe they blade to put up your butt.

1651
01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, But how do you put an entire

1652
01:33:04.439 --> 01:33:07.039
<v Speaker 3>gun in your be hole like that has gotta be

1653
01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:10.720
<v Speaker 3>I think I'd rather shoot myself with it first then

1654
01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:11.359
<v Speaker 3>put it in.

1655
01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:14.640
<v Speaker 9>My twenty five autos, Those little coat twenty five autos,

1656
01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:16.560
<v Speaker 9>they're like that big you know, maybe.

1657
01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:18.800
<v Speaker 3>But do you put it in sideways or do you

1658
01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:21.520
<v Speaker 3>have to? Like, how do you I'm just saying that

1659
01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:26.399
<v Speaker 3>sounds like times how that some kind of fresh fucking hell.

1660
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:29.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Julia, how do you think in spread all the

1661
01:33:29.079 --> 01:33:30.880
<v Speaker 5>prison they get some of the cell phones in there?

1662
01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:35.399
<v Speaker 3>My god? Is it like an iPhone fifteen? Or is

1663
01:33:35.399 --> 01:33:36.479
<v Speaker 3>it like a gallon.

1664
01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:39.319
<v Speaker 5>Flip?

1665
01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:41.079
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

1666
01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:44.720
<v Speaker 5>But I mean still, I mean, what the fuck? Yeah,

1667
01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:45.439
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

1668
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:47.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean, that's so crazy.

1669
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:48.720
<v Speaker 5>How much money that is?

1670
01:33:50.600 --> 01:33:55.680
<v Speaker 9>Like a BlackBerry? The BlackBerry slid open and just got wider.

1671
01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:05.399
<v Speaker 5>Quick. Somebody call me, yeah, right, elaborate.

1672
01:34:07.359 --> 01:34:11.000
<v Speaker 3>What we don't know is right before John wilkes booth

1673
01:34:11.039 --> 01:34:14.960
<v Speaker 3>got mummified, he definitely had some stuff shoved into his

1674
01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.840
<v Speaker 3>b hole. But we'll we'll never know about that because

1675
01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:20.319
<v Speaker 3>he the circus.

1676
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:28.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah course, South, Yes, it did. We're there, Nights of

1677
01:34:28.399 --> 01:34:30.359
<v Speaker 6>the gold Oh you know.

1678
01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:39.880
<v Speaker 5>What brown circle to the Brown Circle, Knights of the

1679
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:40.800
<v Speaker 5>Golden Balloon, Knut.

1680
01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:46.439
<v Speaker 2>That's that's all, folks.

1681
01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:51.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let's wrap it up.

1682
01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:54.039
<v Speaker 5>You know, I actually had a serious question. I fucked

1683
01:34:54.039 --> 01:34:56.600
<v Speaker 5>this all up. Uh, and only because I think we've

1684
01:34:56.600 --> 01:34:58.560
<v Speaker 5>had a guess come on about this before I could

1685
01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:00.640
<v Speaker 5>be wrong. Did you have do you have Knights of

1686
01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:02.479
<v Speaker 5>the Golden Horseshoe?

1687
01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I have not.

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01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:11.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's actually pre that's pre American history because that

1689
01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:15.000
<v Speaker 6>was the Knights of the Golden Horsesho came from the

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01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:18.880
<v Speaker 6>College of William and Mary, Right, you want to.

1691
01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:21.039
<v Speaker 5>Where it was, like, I gotta get him back on it.

1692
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:23.159
<v Speaker 6>They went over the mountains, they got really drunk, and

1693
01:35:23.159 --> 01:35:25.239
<v Speaker 6>then they came back with these little pendants and people

1694
01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:27.079
<v Speaker 6>have been searching for the pendants since.

1695
01:35:27.239 --> 01:35:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, yeah, we had a guest on talk about that.

1696
01:35:32.079 --> 01:35:36.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Washing Virginia conspiracies I love.

1697
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:36.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1698
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:39.960
<v Speaker 8>So what popped up was the Knights of the Golden

1699
01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:44.279
<v Speaker 8>Horseshoe were a real but largely symbolic group performed in

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01:35:44.319 --> 01:35:49.840
<v Speaker 8>seventeen sixteen by Governor Alexander Spotswood and Colonial Virginia.

1701
01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:53.640
<v Speaker 6>This is the initiation ceremony for all these different dudes.

1702
01:35:54.399 --> 01:35:57.920
<v Speaker 6>This is the start of, you know, reinvigorating the Knights

1703
01:35:57.960 --> 01:36:01.319
<v Speaker 6>Templar in America. I think, because yeah, Knights Templar are

1704
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:04.119
<v Speaker 6>the horses Knights of the Golden Horseshoe. These are the

1705
01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:09.239
<v Speaker 6>distributed artifacts from that expedition. Sounds very templar.

1706
01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:14.039
<v Speaker 5>All right, all right, yeah, but I think we'll wrap

1707
01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:15.760
<v Speaker 5>it up there though, if you guys all right with

1708
01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:19.239
<v Speaker 5>it actually, and to plug it real quick too. If

1709
01:36:19.279 --> 01:36:23.560
<v Speaker 5>anybody is going to be in Arkansas, Yeah, Saturday and Sunday,

1710
01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:28.279
<v Speaker 5>there's a paranormal expo there. It's at where it's in

1711
01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:32.079
<v Speaker 5>Little Rock, Little Rock, Oakansas at some museum, military museum,

1712
01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:35.279
<v Speaker 5>two floors, two days. Uh yeah, come check it out.

1713
01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:37.399
<v Speaker 5>The cult REJIXX will have a bootha I'll be doing

1714
01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:39.279
<v Speaker 5>interviews and shit, I'll probably be recording some of the

1715
01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:42.359
<v Speaker 5>speakers or whatever. We're doing interviews with them. So yeah,

1716
01:36:42.399 --> 01:36:44.439
<v Speaker 5>come check it out if you're in the area. It's

1717
01:36:44.479 --> 01:36:46.399
<v Speaker 5>for two days and if you really want, and I

1718
01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:49.119
<v Speaker 5>know I've said this before, it's worth ten thousand itself.

1719
01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:52.119
<v Speaker 5>Saturday at two o'clock there will be grown ups actually

1720
01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:54.159
<v Speaker 5>doing bigfoot coals, So you can come down and check

1721
01:36:54.199 --> 01:36:56.239
<v Speaker 5>that out for a good left and then you can

1722
01:36:56.239 --> 01:36:58.079
<v Speaker 5>come and check me out and kick it with me.

1723
01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:01.279
<v Speaker 5>I'll smoke one with you if you come, so, uh,

1724
01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:04.720
<v Speaker 5>come on down if you're around. Uh yeah, And uh

1725
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:06.600
<v Speaker 5>that's enough out of me, and I will let everybody

1726
01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:09.680
<v Speaker 5>start plugging their show and all that. But Doc, thank

1727
01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:11.560
<v Speaker 5>you so much man for coming on. Like I said,

1728
01:37:11.600 --> 01:37:14.159
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know anything about this, Julia, I'm pretty sure

1729
01:37:14.199 --> 01:37:15.600
<v Speaker 5>she was on the troops and she said she didn't

1730
01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:18.039
<v Speaker 5>know anything about it. Uh so yeah, I mean, I

1731
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:20.600
<v Speaker 5>think this is really interesting and I really liked it.

1732
01:37:21.279 --> 01:37:24.520
<v Speaker 5>I definitely think the viewers did too. Doc. Why don't

1733
01:37:24.560 --> 01:37:26.800
<v Speaker 5>you let everybody know please where they can find your

1734
01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:27.600
<v Speaker 5>amazing show.

1735
01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you.

1736
01:37:29.239 --> 01:37:31.880
<v Speaker 9>Really, I appreciate the opportunity to come out and talk,

1737
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:35.399
<v Speaker 9>and I appreciate the panels and having the back and forth,

1738
01:37:35.479 --> 01:37:38.239
<v Speaker 9>and even when we derail, I enjoy it thoroughly.

1739
01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I've smiled so much tonight my face hurt. Guys, Thank you.

1740
01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:42.720
<v Speaker 2>I needed that.

1741
01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:46.880
<v Speaker 9>But if you guys enjoyed that and these type of conversations,

1742
01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:49.600
<v Speaker 9>I'm doing them two or three times a week. Just

1743
01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:52.880
<v Speaker 9>check me out anywhere you can consume content, YouTube and

1744
01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:56.319
<v Speaker 9>all the fine things. Just search up Prometheus Lynz Podcasts

1745
01:37:57.079 --> 01:37:59.640
<v Speaker 9>once again the website prometheuslynspodcast dot com.

1746
01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Pick up a.

1747
01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:04.119
<v Speaker 9>Copy of the epic of Esau, birth Right and Seed War,

1748
01:38:04.159 --> 01:38:09.840
<v Speaker 9>and hopefully Friday, the audiobook will be available on Audible.

1749
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.079
<v Speaker 2>So fingers crossed, but thank you.

1750
01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:17.600
<v Speaker 5>Awton, Thank you so much, sir and Bennett. Let everybody knows.

1751
01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:22.960
<v Speaker 8>I'm Bennett from Broadcasting Seeds podcast. You can find mever

1752
01:38:23.359 --> 01:38:30.319
<v Speaker 8>podcasts or listen to YouTube, Rumble the Whole Thing or

1753
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:32.119
<v Speaker 8>broadcasting seeds dot com.

1754
01:38:33.239 --> 01:38:35.880
<v Speaker 5>Thanks, of course, thank you so I appreciate you coming

1755
01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:37.760
<v Speaker 5>on Man and the Headless Joant.

1756
01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:41.199
<v Speaker 6>You know me, you know where to find me. I'm

1757
01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:43.720
<v Speaker 6>nedless giant and it's great to see you get Julia,

1758
01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:45.520
<v Speaker 6>thank you coming on.

1759
01:38:46.119 --> 01:38:49.520
<v Speaker 5>Awesome And last min not least, Julia, please let everybody

1760
01:38:49.520 --> 01:38:50.159
<v Speaker 5>know what's over with you.

1761
01:38:51.680 --> 01:38:54.199
<v Speaker 3>If you haven't found me yet, you never will. And

1762
01:38:54.520 --> 01:38:57.279
<v Speaker 3>I will say this, I'm picky about what podcasts I

1763
01:38:57.319 --> 01:38:59.920
<v Speaker 3>listened to. Obviously I listened to The Occult Rejects, but

1764
01:39:00.520 --> 01:39:04.479
<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite shows is the Prometheus Salons podcast.

1765
01:39:05.079 --> 01:39:08.520
<v Speaker 3>I really love, Yeah, I really love the topics you

1766
01:39:08.600 --> 01:39:12.319
<v Speaker 3>choose to cover and you know your perspective on everything.

1767
01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:14.640
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea about this stuff. Tonight I learned

1768
01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:17.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot. I think the listeners did too, Nick. Thanks

1769
01:39:17.800 --> 01:39:18.479
<v Speaker 3>for having me.

1770
01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:20.960
<v Speaker 5>Of course. Of course. Yeah. I will say you, Doc,

1771
01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:22.520
<v Speaker 5>I'll have to admit you have one of the few

1772
01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:25.239
<v Speaker 5>podcasts that will actually be like fuck, that was a

1773
01:39:25.239 --> 01:39:26.319
<v Speaker 5>good one.

1774
01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Man, I appreciate it.

1775
01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:29.359
<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh fuck, I wish I could make

1776
01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:32.479
<v Speaker 5>reals like this. Dude nice, you know, but yeah, definitely

1777
01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:34.239
<v Speaker 5>check out a show if people have a banger of

1778
01:39:34.279 --> 01:39:36.680
<v Speaker 5>a show. Thank you Wolf for coming on. I really

1779
01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:38.760
<v Speaker 5>had a great, great time tonight. It's a really good

1780
01:39:38.800 --> 01:39:40.640
<v Speaker 5>last And again, I mean, that was all new to me,

1781
01:39:40.760 --> 01:39:43.880
<v Speaker 5>so I appreciate it. Doc, it was awesome. And everybody

1782
01:39:43.880 --> 01:39:45.520
<v Speaker 5>in the chat, that's what's up. It seemed like everybody

1783
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:47.479
<v Speaker 5>was here a comment and was here from the beginning

1784
01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:48.760
<v Speaker 5>to the end. That is what's up. And I really

1785
01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:52.840
<v Speaker 5>appreciate it. And until the next one, everybody be well Later.

1786
01:40:00.640 --> 01:40:10.159
<v Speaker 8>The BUSTI ng Star, Madstone Stone

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01:40:11.840 --> 01:40:19.359
<v Speaker 5>Stand Star, Standstill,
