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today's guests. My friends joining me today is April Hannah

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you know, on the spiritual path. Finally came out of

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phone call from this filmmaker and he's like, I want

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to make a documentary about you, and I want to,

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you know, film you about reiki. And I was like,

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series out of that. But Mike, why don't you kind

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of explain what really prompted you to kind of come

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thousand and eight, I had experienced a tremendous amount of

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you know, more movies, lectures, you know, read books. And

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then I thought that this this should be be something

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like it should be a movie or more YouTube clips.

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there should be more. So that's that's why I started

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researching who in my local community, I guess nearby I

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could talk to you to learn more. And April was

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one of those people that responded and got back to me,

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and you know, we hit it off from there, you know,

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became good friends and figured out we should you know,

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that there's something here between the people she knew and

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the people that I want, the other people that I

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wanted to talk to. I figured we had enough decent

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stuff to you know, to go forward with. Oh, in

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that that week vacation, I wouldn't call that a that

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we did when we traveled the eastern half of the

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United States. It was a rough week, but you know,

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we got a lot done and met alone nice people

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and got a lot of good information.

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Speaker 3: What were some of the synchronicities that happened that were

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just like like divine alignment that you got to see?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I bet your listeners are probably familiar with

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like the eleven eleven phenomenon and experiencing that. So, you know,

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after Mike and I came to know each other, there's

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just like some fun tidbits. So my mom had always

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name me Michael, right, And then here's like now my

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lifelong friend, my business partner. We're both born in the

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same month, one week apart, same year. We both have

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like these sparkling blue eyes. He almost seems like he's

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like a brother from another lifetime. We lived eleven miles apart,

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and every time we went into edit the film, we

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would always be catching eleven eleven one eleven. We met

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and she was really big into numerology and she wanted

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to find out what our numerology numbers were so I

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guess I'm a life path nine. Mike is a life

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path eleven. And then there's that eleven again that came up.

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and you would have to like press two buttons to

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you know, lined up their stuff. So we were on

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our way to go film a nuclear physicist. He used

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to work for NASA, Tom Campbell. He's the author of

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My Big Toe. If your audience hasn't heard of him,

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they want to go down a rabbit hole, they should

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definitely look him up. Thomas Campbell and I had left

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my Nokia cell phone in the car when we were

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in North Carolina. Get into the car. We're on the

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what the hell is going on here. So the number

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eleven just came up a lot the synchronicities between Mike

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and I, and that's kind of how we decided to

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come up with the name Path eleven. We both felt

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that we were on a spiritual path. We didn't know

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where the path was going to take us, but the

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number eleven was just so prominent. And then when we

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were researching the eleven eleven phenomenon and feeling like that

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was a sign for us, I keep going, you're connected,

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you have the support of the universe. And then it

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just happens all the time, like our GPS where you

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have to arrive at a certain time one eleven eleven

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eleven PM. You know, we're making stops, getting gas, going

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out to eat, and somehow it always come back up.

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that happened and really prompted us to call our company

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Path eleven Productions.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. What do you think it is? Like, I'd

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similar strain of a guidance by a higher power or

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the angelic even.

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eleven eleven, it's more just kind of the universe reflecting

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then and there's been times, you know, between films, it's

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like you get that dry spell where there's no synchronousity,

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and then you know, you keep hitting the you know,

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a wall or dead end, and uh, and then something

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will change and you're back on track, and then all

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of a sudden, the eleven eleven will pop back up again,

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and uh, yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's so weird, like it's kind of hard to explain,

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but you know, when you're I guess what Abraham Hicks

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would say, in the vortex or in the flow. You're

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in the flow state and you live there, and you're

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following the universe. You're following what we'll call God by

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leaving these these breadcrumbs that the divine is leaving for you.

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you're on the right path. Keep following the breadcrumbs almost,

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which is beautiful. But I've been, like you're saying, in

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a place where all this magic is happening, there's new research,

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and you're just like a kid in a candy store

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and you're hearing you're like saying a phrase and right

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when you say it, you pass a billboard that has

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that phrase on it. We have this thing happen a lot.

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Will We'll say something and immediately after, at the same time,

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whatever's on TV. We'll like mimic each other, the same thing.

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Me and my family. We just stop and look at

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each other and just kind of acknowledge that moment. You know,

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but you know when all that's happening like this magic,

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but then you know when like something happens that knocks

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you out of that flow state and you're just like

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stagnant and that stuff isn't happening. Do you think that

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that's just the result, because like, you know, being someone

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who you know what I'm saying, like we're not led

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by our emotions or you know, these and synchronicities, because

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what happens when they stopped? Then what do we do?

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Do we panic? Or we know that we need to

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get back in that state where there's still happening, Like

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like whenever, like you were in between films, was there

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something that you did, did you do the first works

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of what you did before, maybe more meditation, reading, watching

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those films that kind of stirred you back up in

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that awe and wonder that puts you back in that

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I don't know if you've ever experienced this,

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because you're an artist as well, right, and you create

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and it seems like you're bringing a lot of light

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to the world. But we've had really interesting things happen

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while we were making the film, and it almost felt

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like some roadblocks, and we actually got some consult from

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other healers because the first film, Mike ended up do

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you remember this mic? You had like this this horrible

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pain in his knee. We were just like getting ready

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to be able to like launch the film and he

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was in excruciating pain to the point where he didn't

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know what was going on. There was no injury, nothing

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had happened, but we had to stop production. And this

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something similar to this happened in each single film, and

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we had to consult some energy healers to like look

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in and check in on the energy and be like,

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do you have any idea, like what's going on? We

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came out of that flow state, right, and it felt

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like we might have been meeting something that was really

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trying to stop the light that we were trying to

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spread out into the world. And you know, some of

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the people that had worked on Mike's knee and some

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other things that happened in the second film, in the

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third film said that, and I don't know if I

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believe this or subscribe to it yet, I'm not sure,

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but said that there were some darker forces that really

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didn't want our films to get out there, and because

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it was going to reach the masses, it was going

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to change consciousness, it was going to bring you know,

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more light to the world, and it was just kind

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of like interesting to see that happen, you know, each time,

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and you know interesting too, Like we did take a

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couple of years in between each film. First film came

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out when was it two thousand, I think, you know,

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time two thousand and nine, and then the last film,

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The Path Evolution, came out in twenty sixteen, so this

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was like a long time. And the second film we

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had something similar happened. We we scrapped it like four times, right, Mike, there.

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Speaker 5: Was like, yeah, yeah, four times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. There was just something like we couldn't get into

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the groove, couldn't get into the groove. And you know,

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we contacted again, like people that we really trusted and

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some of the people that we interviewed from the films

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and said, hey, you know, you have the ability to

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look in and see what's going on in the larger

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consciousness system. Is there something blocking us from doing this?

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Are we on the wrong path? Is it just not

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the time? So that was kind of really interesting in

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the whole creative process. And I think sometimes if you

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come out of that flow state, sometimes it's just being

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human right and getting really attached to the physical experience.

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And sometimes if you're mute, moving, or you have just

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earthly things that are happening to you, it can kind

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of take you out of that creative space. But you know,

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I think too, with people like you and the work

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that we're doing in the world, you know, we're bringing

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a lot of light and that there may be some

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forces there that really are trying to keep that light

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a little darker, you know, keep the world a little darker.

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Speaker 3: You think that could be like like an outer manifestation

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of some of your own inner blockages or don't feel

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you know, like that that you're you know qualified, even

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like when you shot the first one, you're like, no,

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not me, here's my other other healer friends you should

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talk to kind of thing, And maybe like some of

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that stuff gets manifested by these roadblocks and blockages until

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you like step over those own hurdles, within your own heart,

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within your own mind, and when you say yes to it,

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everything on the outside lines up because you've kind of

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passed those tests to step up to the next level

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kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say so. One of the things I'm

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thinking about, Mike, that maybe you might even want to

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tell the story that I think could have been why

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that could have manifested in his knee too, is a

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part of his you know, upbringing in the Catholic really

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and still some family members that don't support the work

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that he does. So and I think that was pretty

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big for you, Mike, you know, to like really come

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out and make these films.

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Speaker 5: And oh yeah, yeah. When we put the first trailer

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out for the first film, I had some family members

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get sending me personal messages like, you know, the filmmaking

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looks great, but yeah, we're not gonna watch it because

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it doesn't we don't agree with what you're saying, and yeah,

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and I think I think the problem that I had

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in my knee, yeah, I remember it excruciating, and it

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was kind of something that has been sneaking up on

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me for probably about a year before and then like

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the last month of production on the film. It was

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almost paralyzing in a way.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 5: The pain was incredible. I couldn't sit down for too long.

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I couldn't stand for too long. I couldn't I wasn't

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sleeping at night. The pain was crazy. I had I

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ended up. My wife took me to the er so

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I can get initial set of X, and then he

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told me get an MRI and I had actually manifested.

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I'm saying I did. And I think the negative forces

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that you brought up before, I think maybe are a

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metaphor for a self manifestation of some sort of block.

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And I had manifested some sort of tumor under my kneecap,

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and so I was actually getting I was supposed to

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be a week later, two weeks or so, I was

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supposed to have a surgery to have that removed. And

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it was the night maybe two I don't remember the

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exact timeframe, but two nights before our film came out

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April sent out an email blast to the healers and

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our film and some other people as she know, and

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Tom Campbell, who we brought up before, was one of them,

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and he looked in on it and he was very vague,

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but he said, oh, I'll see what I can do.

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If it's meant to be, There's not much I can do,

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but I'll see what I can do. So that next

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morning I woke up. Actually I didn't really sleep a

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whole lot, so I probably had maybe about fifteen minutes

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to sleep for the whole night, and I'm just kind

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of wandering around the house in agony, and all of

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a sudden, my kneecap, my whole knee just radiated so

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much heat it turned bright red and then it probably

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I think that lasted for about two or three hours.

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And then by the end of the day I had

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no more pain, and it was a little sore just

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from walking around, you know, for the next couple of days,

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but I mean the actual pain was gone, and I

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never had surgery. The pain has never come back. And

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we never went back to Tom about or maybe he said, yeah,

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I zapped you with something, and it could have been

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him with a combination of you know, some of the

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other healers, you know, just I'm just soaking it up

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and at the time I was, you know, I still

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am very open to healing. So I think that may

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have helped and then to get there, I don't know,

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I don't know if you want to call a permission

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or whatever, but they're okay with everything. Probably allowed me

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to put it away or whatever you want to call it,

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and you know, remove the tumor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it sounds like it's you know, symbolic for

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finally standing on your own two feet firm.

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Speaker 5: That's perfect way putting up. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Coming out from that religious programming and negative aspects of

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the religion, you know, that's that's you know, that's the

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majority of who we cater to here is people coming

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out of religion and who are getting into you know,

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deeper things, whether it's mysticism or philosophy or plant medicine

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or becoming a healer using reiki. But they come from

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that religious background and have that baggage that's telling them

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be careful and there's demons out there that are gonna

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get you, and it sticks with you no matter how

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much that you break out, Like you still see your

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grandparents or your pastor who scared the hell out of

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you by watching some film about the occult or whatever.

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It sticks with you. So doing that unprogramming can take years,

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and a lot of us are still going through it,

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like in like little bitty pieces of stuff that are

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hanging on. But when you get free, man, you like

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you know what I'm saying, you don't want to look back.

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And there's a lot of people who get testimonies every

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day from people who write me, and you know that's

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who we cater to for sure, people who have that programming.

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I had to come out of it so I can

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teach you how to come out of it kind of thing, right,

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so if I can show you the way out, because

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I had to do it, and it was hell, It

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was pretty hard. I was a minister. I was a

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Christian minister and like a evangelist and traveled the churches

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and preached and told my story and stuff like that.

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And so when I got into UFOs and plant medicines

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and stuff like that, and it started being open and

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vocal about my beliefs that were evolving and changing like

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that didn't go over well, you know, and had a

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target on my back. So that's part of it. Can

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you talk a little bit about something that has been

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on my heart lately, just coming back up, But just

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the power of film, like why you chose this route.

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Obviously it has to be effective, especially if we see

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like right now, I feel like for the most part,

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it's being used for evil, malicious intent to push like fear, hysteria, panic, consume, consume, consume.

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By this then you'll feel better those kind of things,

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Like we understand that, like even trends. They can like

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show you a new trend that's released through the television

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or even your smartphone now which everybody has these screens

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that are pulsating and flashing and flickering and almost seem

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to hypnotize us. Right, So there's this power of film

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for like the negative, which we've seen for the most part,

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but we do get glimpses of the beautiful, inspiring movies

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and myth and allegory and beautiful stories that inspire and

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stuff when we use it for good. Have you done

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any like any any research just like with the power

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of film, and you know why it works because when

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you go into like the invention of the television and

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the catho ray tube, like they used to channel spirits

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through the tube that was in the original television when

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they'd shoot light through it and it would projecting image

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on the other side, and they would try to communicate

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with spirits that would move the particles. Which is some

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really deep stuff, but I feel like if we use

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it for good. Obviously a podcast, video, audio and the

478
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,240
stuff that you're doing has the power to influence. And

479
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:46,759
you guys have a network, have you done anything with

480
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,920
like like you know what I'm saying, looking into the

481
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,960
power behind media in and of itself.

482
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:58,039
Speaker 5: Or yeah, I mean this goes back to college and

483
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,039
my film studies. It's you know, we were shown, you know,

484
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,839
the Nazi propaganda films, which were very powerful images to

485
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,720
manipulate the whole population. We're seeing. Yeah, it's it's all.

486
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:21,799
It's it's film, especially narrative film. It's all about storytelling,

487
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,759
creating an emotion. And you can't sell something if you

488
00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:30,400
don't have an emotion attached to it. So it's it's Yeah,

489
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,599
it's a combination. You you watch a TV show or

490
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:36,839
a movie and you get hooked to these characters and

491
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,400
they go in an adventure and you know, supposedly the hero,

492
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:43,440
the main character is supposed to be on a journey

493
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,000
and become, you know, a hero at the end, or

494
00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:51,480
you know that that the traditional narrative. It's it's all

495
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:57,160
it's there is good in it, you know, like if

496
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,640
you look at regular Hollywood blockbusters, like one of my

497
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:06,240
favorites is the Matrix movie, where it's that it's a

498
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:10,880
metaphor for society to wake up and you know, depending

499
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,720
on whether you believe that, you know, the universe is

500
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,799
a simulation or not a computer simulation, it's still waking

501
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,759
up and seeing what's real, what's not real, what's what's

502
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:24,599
being what what is the story being manufactured to tell,

503
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,480
you know, the population, to control them to believe a

504
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:33,160
certain thing or not. And we see that with everything anymore,

505
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:38,759
you know, between commercials to news to you know, even

506
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,599
music videos these days, they're all it's it's hypnotizing to see,

507
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,160
you know, all these images the sound having a connection

508
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:50,279
to what's going on on the screen.

509
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: Yes, powerful, you got something April.

510
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:57,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. I think one of the things that

511
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,640
a lot of people have said when they've watched our

512
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,400
films was just how visually beautiful it was, you know,

513
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,039
It's interesting too because I don't have a film background,

514
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,599
but maybe I did in a past life, who knows.

515
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,720
And you know, when Mike and I came together, with

516
00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:17,160
part of my intuition being very visual, you know, I

517
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,160
could just see the pictures, the b roll, the things

518
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,200
that we needed to put in, you know, while these

519
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,599
people were telling the stories, probably to you know, invoke

520
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,799
that that heart centered feeling when they're watching it, and

521
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,720
you know, and that carries over in all three films.

522
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,279
Just to let your listeners know, we have The Path Afterlife,

523
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:40,680
which really tells a lot of stories about people's personal experiences.

524
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,319
All of the healers and scientists that we studied their

525
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,480
experience with having had a love one crossover and the

526
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:50,119
communication that they had. We had a woman that was

527
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,480
struck by lightning and had a near death experience and

528
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:55,160
her whole story and what she saw was on there.

529
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,359
So like the first film is all about real true storytelling.

530
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,599
I mean, people are usually crying by the end of it.

531
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,440
It's pretty intense. The second one, people tend to love

532
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,839
The Path Beyond the Physical because it's all about aut

533
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,880
of body experiences. We went to the Monroe Institute. I

534
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,559
don't know if you're familiar with that center and spoke

535
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:16,599
to Skip Atwater, who was a part of the classified

536
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Stargate mission with the training of the psychic spies, and

537
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:22,079
you know all of that, and people just love that

538
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,279
because that seems like it's a tool that wakes people

539
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:28,160
up to say, Wow, I am more than my physical

540
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,279
body and let me kind of like experience this, and

541
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:33,119
they're hearing the stories of Skip tells a really funny

542
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:34,680
story about when he was a kid, he would pee

543
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,319
his pants or pee the bed and it was because

544
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:39,319
his mom said to him, you just got to remember

545
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:40,960
to come back to your body and then go to

546
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,960
the bathroom, you know. And we've had so many people

547
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,839
come up to us after our screenings and be like,

548
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:47,839
oh my god, that would happen to me all the time,

549
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,359
where I would get that dream paralysis and I thought

550
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,200
there was something wrong with me, but maybe I really

551
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:54,519
was going out of body, you know. And I think,

552
00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:57,279
like you said, using the power of film for good

553
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:00,839
and to help raise consciousness and bring people back into

554
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,359
their heart is really the type of filmmaking that that

555
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,920
we've done, and that's what we're trying to do bringing

556
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,400
that over to Path eleven. TV with our new network,

557
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,880
you know, is really doing a lot of kind of

558
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,160
short documentaries, interviews on camera and talking to people who

559
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,880
are doing magnificent work in the world of consciousness. So

560
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:22,119
that's our whole goal and hope.

561
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: Now with the Path eleven network, do you all have

562
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:30,240
other filmmakers and different presenters coming on or is it

563
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:32,240
just y'all's content? What all do you have with that?

564
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 5: About ninety nine percent of it is our stuff that

565
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,880
we've produced ourselves. There's a good portion of it which

566
00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:47,119
comes from conferences that we've filmed, So, I mean, their

567
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,119
content is obviously the presenter's work, but we're filming it ourselves.

568
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:52,559
Speaker 4: We do.

569
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 5: We've worked with doctor Terry Daniel after Life Awareness Conference.

570
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:05,039
We've the last three conferences we we've put on there.

571
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,440
Actually the third one will come out in about a month,

572
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,880
but the last two are on there. And she's also

573
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,279
producing her own podcast. We have about three two to

574
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:18,799
three episodes that she's producing on her own and she's saying, hey,

575
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,880
you know, get this out, roars and we're like, for sure,

576
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:30,680
and it's basically submit questions about death dying. She's she's

577
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:35,279
been very big into theology and cultry after a life,

578
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:39,359
So you can submit a question of her and she'll

579
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,160
put it on the podcast, and the video portion of

580
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,480
her podcast comes onto our Path eleven TV, and we

581
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,160
we produce our own we April hosts a talk show

582
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,559
called Conversations on the Path and there's we just started

583
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:01,839
production on season two. There about fourteen episodes in season

584
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:07,599
one and they're all Season one's mainly about healing modalities

585
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,680
and apel. I don't know if you want to talk

586
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:11,319
more about that thing.

587
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

588
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:15,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tried to find like really interesting different healing

589
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:19,119
modalities that people probably have never heard of and actually

590
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,960
have the energy workers work on me. They kind of

591
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,279
explain it. Also with my mental health background too. Also

592
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:29,359
trying to get other people in the fee lending psychology

593
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,720
and spirituality together because I think that that is a

594
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:35,119
really nice blend. But I like to find people in

595
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,160
our community who are like, you know, grassroots, you know,

596
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,039
on the ground, helping people, the little little minions you know,

597
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:45,960
that are making such a huge impact in small, little

598
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,599
pockets all over the world. Yeah, that's another series that

599
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,640
we have on Pack eleve and TV that people seem

600
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,519
to really really like.

601
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: Did you guys produce the twenty nineteen UFO conference as well.

602
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we went down to Pine Bush, New York

603
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:05,799
and they have this huge UFO conference and they had

604
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:11,319
of speakers, probably the most famous person, Travis Smalton was

605
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:15,599
there and Tom Reid was also there, and uh yeah,

606
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,240
so we were there. There were a bunch of film

607
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:21,480
crews that were there actually filming this whole conference, and

608
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:25,319
so we brought our stuff down. We were invited down

609
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:29,519
to do that, and that was some wild stuff to

610
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,839
film and hear these. It was a long day, but

611
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,039
we were able to edit it and kind of get

612
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:36,440
it together in a nice little package from Pafalove and TV.

613
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: That's awesome. That's a subject that's very near and dear

614
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,599
to my heart. One of my big ones I think

615
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,519
that kind of propelled my awakening was a study of

616
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:50,000
uthology back, like you said, early days of YouTube watching

617
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:53,880
you know, UFO footage and then finding people who were

618
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:57,200
trying to make contact with ships and stuff like that,

619
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,240
and that really just took took my crazy level and

620
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:04,000
everything was magical and out of this world. So definitely

621
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,880
have a close place in my heart for that. Do

622
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,800
y'all have any personal UFO alien stories?

623
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've seen three UFOs. Actually two of them I

624
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,079
think were the same one, but about five six years apart.

625
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:24,079
It was mid nineteen eighties, upstate New York Chester Boomerang,

626
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:27,599
you could probably google it, and it was that V

627
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:33,800
shaped UFO. This is like I think nineteen eighty five,

628
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,000
maybe eighty six, and it was just me and my

629
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,960
dad were home and my dad was outside working in

630
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,119
the yard, and it was probably about eight o'clock at night,

631
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:47,840
maybe nine, and he came running in and we went

632
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,920
outside and there was like the you know, the lights.

633
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,840
We thought, oh, what is it. It was just hovering

634
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,079
there kind of over our house a little bit, and

635
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,519
you know, we didn't live far from a airport. We figured, oh,

636
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:01,960
maybe it was like a hot air balloon or a

637
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,119
bunch of gliders or something. But they just stayed there

638
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,719
with no noise for it's probably twenty thirty minutes, and

639
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,920
then all of a sudden it just started moved and

640
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,599
away with no noise, and it was no flashing lights,

641
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,039
nothing like that. It was just white lights all around

642
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:26,280
it in a V shape. And then I think it

643
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:32,320
was ninety two at this point, maybe ninety one, the

644
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:38,960
same craft came back and I was with my girlfriend

645
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,920
who she actually became married her a few years later.

646
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,880
But we were driving around town we grew up. I'm

647
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,000
in Kingston, New York for about two hours north of

648
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,800
the city, and you know, we're just driving around. I

649
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,679
think it was a Friday night, just going to different

650
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:00,199
restaurants or whatever. And we come out at one place

651
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,280
and we see I see the craft come back, same size,

652
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,119
no noise, barely moving, and this time at white light

653
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:11,039
that was kind of just like zigzagging around in front

654
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:16,639
of it somehow, and I thought, that's that's weird. It's

655
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,760
the same thing, but it's a little different now. And

656
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,239
so then it started to move away, and it actually

657
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,480
it flew more over the center of town, and so

658
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:28,519
we started, let's let's follow it. You know, we got

659
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:32,639
nothing to do. So we followed it and it's going

660
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:35,840
down the main strip of Kingston where all the shopping

661
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,760
centers are and everything, and all the car it was

662
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,280
like something out of like World of the World's cars

663
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,119
were just pulling off to the side. Everybody's getting out

664
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:45,599
of their cars and pointing, and I wish. Of course,

665
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:48,760
it is early nineties. There's no cell phones or cameras,

666
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,440
readularly available. So we just watched it and we followed

667
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,400
it probably for another half hour forty minutes or so.

668
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,360
We followed it out of town, and then we couldn't

669
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,519
keep up with it anymore. And then probably about three

670
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:08,199
four years later, I was in college and I went

671
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,559
to college in Poughkeepsie and it's about I don't know,

672
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,840
familiar with New York, but it's about forty minutes south

673
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,800
of Kingston, and I don't know. For some reason, I

674
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,159
didn't have a car. My car probably broke down or something.

675
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,079
And my wife picked me up from college and it

676
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:28,079
was afternoon, early evening, so sun's kind of setting, and

677
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:33,400
we're taking the back countryway home and you can kind

678
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,840
of see, you know, it was in the fall, so

679
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:36,920
you didn't have a lot of leaves on the trees

680
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,440
or anything, and I could see it was like a plane.

681
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:40,840
You kind of see it out of the corner of

682
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,440
your eye, like a plane kind of thing. And we're

683
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,599
kind of driving with it for a while, and then

684
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:50,599
probably about it's long enough where you suddenly realize that

685
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:53,360
that's not a plane, and it's been with us for

686
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,480
a while now, so we kind of pulled off, get

687
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:58,920
it into some sort of parking lot where it's kind

688
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,239
of open a little bit, and at the whatever it

689
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,599
was I was, it got a little closer and it

690
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:12,480
was kind of like this green pyramid thing and it

691
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,760
was making like a like a humming, like a woom

692
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,480
woom woom, very slow, very like drone like sound. It

693
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:25,880
was this floating green pyramid and it rotated ninety degrees,

694
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,000
so the green was mainly concentrated at the top point

695
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,119
at this at this time, and it stood there probably

696
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,039
it was probably like five seconds, but it felt like

697
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:40,800
thirty minutes where it was just hovering and then it

698
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,440
just took off. There was no way we could have

699
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:46,679
kept up with it. And yeah, I don't, I don't.

700
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,800
Those were my experiences with the UFOs. But it's it

701
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,360
was bright enough where you could see the outline of

702
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,920
this ship and it was a definite like triangle pyramid

703
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,760
type shape.

704
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome, strange And how old would you when

705
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,119
this happened.

706
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:14,199
Speaker 5: The boomerang that happened earlier, I was probably about ten

707
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,920
to fifteen. The first one I was probably about eight nine.

708
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:22,719
That was probably about eight. Then I saw it again

709
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,119
when I was fifteen, and then the other one I

710
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:27,840
saw when I was about eighteen nineteen.

711
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: What about you, April. That's awesome story.

712
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: By the way, Yeah, I have yet to see a UFO,

713
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,320
but I work with aliens all the time in my

714
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,119
healing practice, so I've never seen a craft. I look

715
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:44,679
up at the sky every night when I bring my

716
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,440
dogs out, but my experience has been more with the

717
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:53,239
energy healing and the first I remember, Mike totally outed

718
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,760
me on a podcast when we were interviewing Teal Swan.

719
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,239
He's like, April, tell her about the blue beans. You

720
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,679
told me that. I'm like, I don't want to talk

721
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,880
about that. People are gonna think I'm crazy, right, So,

722
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,400
but yeah, I mean I call them the blue healers.

723
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,719
But after I've interviewed a couple of people on my

724
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,039
podcast too, where uh These these blue beings are cited

725
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:17,480
a lot with energy healers, and they look like the

726
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:23,000
color reminds me from the color blue from Avatar. It's

727
00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:26,719
this beautiful, beautiful blue. They are much taller than me.

728
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,039
I'm about five three, so they might be six feet

729
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,920
or so, maybe a little bit shorter, not exactly sure

730
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,920
the hype, but they're smooth. They're very smooth. But when

731
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,280
they come in and help me. And now I elicted

732
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,679
it too because I've gotten some of my own healings.

733
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:46,119
I've been investigating this and asking other people and other

734
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:48,360
people that have given me readings, say, you know, they

735
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,800
want to work with you, but you have to give

736
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,960
more permission. You have to ask them to come in more.

737
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,480
So I've been really consciously doing that more. And they

738
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,519
really work on the physical body. They help me help

739
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:00,639
people in the physical body. Just heal last night on

740
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:02,400
a woman that was having some NAT issues and they

741
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,920
were in there just kind of working it. And you know,

742
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,679
I see them not from more of a knowing in

743
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:10,119
a sense, but it's some of the most beautiful energy

744
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:13,039
I've ever experienced when they come in. I was also

745
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:16,079
another interesting experience that I had. I was at a

746
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:19,199
sound healing gong bath. I don't know if I've ever

747
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,000
had a sound bath before with these gongs that resonate

748
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,639
to the energy of the planets, and it was my

749
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:26,920
first time. I had no idea what I was experiencing.

750
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:28,920
Everyone that had gone to one said, oh my god,

751
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,840
you have to go to one. So I go to one.

752
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,559
I have my eyes closed, and oh love it. There

753
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:40,760
you go and I didn't know that the Gongs had

754
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,599
the resonance of the planets. And I remember during this

755
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:46,719
Gong bath, I just felt like I was home, and

756
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,400
I felt like I was an outer space and I

757
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,199
was crying and it was amazing. But I actually saw

758
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,400
these really large white aliens. I mean I'm talking like

759
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,000
seven feet eight foot tall, and they were like facilit

760
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:02,320
illitating stuff at the Gong path. So I went up

761
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,559
to the teacher and I was like, can I share

762
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:07,199
something really strange that I saw? As anyone ever reported

763
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,159
like seeing white aliens? I guess that, you know, that

764
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,039
was what I and I there is some term. I

765
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:14,079
forget the names of them, but when I researched it,

766
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:22,519
there are like these very large white nomadic beings. Yeah,

767
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:25,760
And so that was an experience. And then I've traveled

768
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,119
with my consciousness to other solar systems, I guess she

769
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:31,519
could say, and you know, other planets like that. And

770
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,320
one really cool experience was with a woman who really

771
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,760
struggled with some self esteem issues and she was what

772
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,159
we would call very much an m path, right, she

773
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,239
just felt everything. Can't watch the news, I mean she

774
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,119
could cry for days over a really sad story and

775
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:52,199
she's also a woman that is very tall, very beautiful,

776
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:57,239
but really interesting physique and features. And she developed very

777
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,239
early on, like by second grade, I think she was

778
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,280
almost six feet tall and already had breasts and always

779
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,679
kind of felt out of place. And so with some

780
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,239
of the coaching from my other teachers and stuff with

781
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,960
using your intention, you can intend to go where you

782
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:13,519
need to go. So I just asked during this healing,

783
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:16,119
can you please show me where she is from? Because

784
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:18,400
I knew she wasn't from Earth. You know, where did

785
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,880
she come from? And I was brought to this beautiful

786
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,039
green planet and these really tall green they were green beings,

787
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:29,760
and their form of communication was all about peace and love.

788
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,760
There was no duality on this planet. It was just

789
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,280
pure peace and love. So it made a lot of

790
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,079
sense to me why she had a hard time being

791
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:39,960
here on Earth because of that duality. So here I

792
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,320
am on this planet, like checking out her planet, checking

793
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,280
out these beings, and they kind of like waddle themselves

794
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,480
over to me. And the being goes like this and

795
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:50,599
puts the hand up and then takes my hand and

796
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:53,239
this is how they say hello. So I'm like, oh, okay,

797
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,840
that was weird, you know, I'm just kind of getting

798
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,039
all these downloads and information. So after the healing session,

799
00:43:58,079 --> 00:43:59,880
I had told her, you know what I had to

800
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:02,760
experienced and where maybe you know, she might be from.

801
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:05,719
And I said, and they did the coolest thing, said.

802
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:07,400
They came up to me and the way that they

803
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,159
say hello on their planet, on your planet is they

804
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:12,599
do this and they hold hands, and all of a sudden,

805
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:15,920
her eyes got really big. She was like, every morning

806
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,920
when I wake up, that's how my husband and I

807
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,440
say hello. We put our hands up to each other

808
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,840
and do this. I was like, are you kiddy me?

809
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:26,920
It was just so wild. So so that was kind

810
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,880
of interesting as a healer to be able to kind

811
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,000
of tried to get more information understanding where the soul

812
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:35,920
may have incarnated from and where some of the self

813
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,159
esteem issues were coming from. You know, what that planet

814
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:43,880
was all about. And really what I the download that

815
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,679
I had received was that she was really here to

816
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:49,039
bring that love and compassion from that planet and to

817
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:51,000
keep doing it even though it felt really hard to

818
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:54,440
be here. So those, I mean, I have endless stories

819
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,440
like that, but those are I guess three different types

820
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,119
of races that I have experienced in different types of

821
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,519
healing sessions.

822
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, when you talk about the blue

823
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,280
beings or whatever. I have a part of my book

824
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,199
where I talk about I call them fairies. But there

825
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,599
was these blue little orbs and they were probably three

826
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,360
inches long, but they were fluorescent blue. And me and

827
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,719
my daughter was outside and we actually made like a

828
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,239
fairy house a couple of weeks before, just in the backyard,

829
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,840
just made a little hole and just something for fun

830
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,079
when she was little, and we were in the backyard

831
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:35,960
stargazing and they came out from the top of the trees.

832
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:39,760
And we have lightning bugs and stuff, but these weren't

833
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,559
lightning bugs. They're small and yellow. These were like this

834
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,679
big and fluorescent blue, and they came out from the

835
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:49,480
top of the trees. And I told my daughter, I said,

836
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,920
that's the fairies. Let's ask them to come down, and

837
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:56,280
just jokingly and literally like a movie like Avatar, the fluorescent,

838
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,159
beautiful blue. They came down and swirled all around us

839
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:04,440
and then went back up into the trees disappeared, and

840
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:07,920
I'm like, what the world was this? I ran inside,

841
00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:11,440
I told my wife and tried to google it. Blue

842
00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:17,320
lightning bugs, blue beans, blue fairies. I couldn't find anything,

843
00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:21,239
no videos, no stories, no nothing. But I wrote about

844
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,119
it in my book and I'd say, you know, it's

845
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:25,119
the blue fairies who were visited Bob. But it was

846
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:29,719
a magical experience. And so when you said the fluorescent blue,

847
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:32,920
it's like, okay, here's something like these blue beings were

848
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,480
so awesome.

849
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:36,559
Speaker 4: So yeah, I had a cool experience. I don't know

850
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:38,519
if I could actually show you from my cell phone,

851
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:42,360
but I was doing a virtual session the other day,

852
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,320
and I know what Mike would say, right, he would say, April,

853
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,320
it's just the light, just the light coming in through

854
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,119
the camera and the reflection, but that's like the color blue.

855
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,599
I was moving my camera and I was by a light,

856
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:56,960
but that color blue is like really similar to what

857
00:46:57,159 --> 00:47:00,199
I experienced a lot. And I just was playing that.

858
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,760
I was moving my desk and the sun rays were

859
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,920
coming in, but that blue and it was thick, and

860
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,199
you know, I don't think it was them per se,

861
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:10,079
but I just thought like, wow, I can really resonate

862
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:12,440
with that color blue, and here it is showing up

863
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,920
shining through on my camera and stuff. So yeah, so

864
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,440
that was cool just the other day, December third.

865
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. Like I've seen a lot of people.

866
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,480
I mean, that has to have something to do with it,

867
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:29,320
like with just different rays in the different levels of

868
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,599
light that you can manipulate and see different spectrums in

869
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,039
the light spectrums. And so I've seen one guy years

870
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:37,440
ago when I was just looking up all of the

871
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:41,280
UFO footage. He would take us his camcorder and he

872
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,000
would film the side of his house just where the

873
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:47,039
light like the sun was coming out just behind it,

874
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:49,440
so it was like his house and just a little

875
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,519
bit of the sun. And when he would do it

876
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:53,880
just right, like the light would hit it in a

877
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,679
certain way, and he would see all these little black

878
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,800
dots flying around like by the sun. And he was

879
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,639
convinced that by doing this he was able to pick

880
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,599
up some type of like spectrum and see these so

881
00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:09,920
called UFO ships that were cloaked out there in the atmosphere.

882
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,519
Speaker 4: Oh wow. Interesting.

883
00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 3: So when it comes to all of your studies and

884
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,920
research and experiences and things like that, especially with UFOs,

885
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,559
they good or they bad or they both. Like, what's

886
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,400
the stance you guys take on that field? Because you

887
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,559
got a bunch of abduction stories and stuff like that,

888
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,119
which mind you were. You know, they pretty much died

889
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:33,400
out in the nineties. We don't even hear that term anymore.

890
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,760
Everybody's an experiencer or a contact ee someone to say

891
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,960
like they was abducted and they took them on and

892
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,320
did all the experience. You don't even hear those stories anymore.

893
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,760
But your stance on are they good, are they bad?

894
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,159
Or in between and that kind of thing. What do

895
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:49,039
you guys feel about that?

896
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 5: I would like to think that most of them are

897
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:58,559
for the good. But then when you hear like Travis

898
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:04,599
Walton story and even watched the movie, it's like frightening stuff.

899
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: Well what did he say at the conference, because you

900
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,920
know his story has changed over the years.

901
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he kind of told what was different from

902
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:22,920
his experience to the movie. And there's some like little

903
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,079
details like something with the phone booth. I'm trying to

904
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:30,679
remember over a year ago now when he got off

905
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,880
Like in the movie he has like no clothes on,

906
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,920
but he actually had some clothes on or something. And

907
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,880
there's something I can't remember with something with the truck.

908
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

909
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 5: There's like little details here and there that he brought up.

910
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,440
And then I showed my daughters into this stuff too,

911
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,079
So I, you know, I said, oh, I guess where

912
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,280
I met. And she's like, I said, Travis Walton and

913
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,559
she's like, who's that. And I was like, I guess

914
00:49:56,559 --> 00:50:00,199
what we're watching tonight? So we watched Fire in the

915
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,679
Sky and that was you know, of course I watched it,

916
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,320
you know when it came out back in the nineties,

917
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,000
and then watching it again, it was like, this is

918
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,960
traumatic stuff that the junk and the ship and you know,

919
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:15,119
the stuff that they're doing to him and they got

920
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:17,719
him you know, suffocating or whatever. You know, it was

921
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,239
all this torture basically on the ship was.

922
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: Well the big thing he says now that that stands

923
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,039
out to me, and uh, like I said, I haven't

924
00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:28,519
listened to him recently, but he kind of like renigged

925
00:50:28,519 --> 00:50:30,280
on the movie and said Hollywood just took it and

926
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,159
kind of and pretty much turned it into her like

927
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:36,199
a horror story. But where he's at now. He says

928
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,159
that they've seen this ship in the woods and he

929
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,800
goes up to it and tries to touch it, just

930
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,840
like in the movie, and he says that it powered

931
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,280
up and it knocked him back and almost killed him.

932
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,880
And his friends left and He said that if they

933
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,320
would have left him there, he would have died. So

934
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,920
they had to pick him up and like resuscitate him

935
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,440
and work on him so that he did and die

936
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:02,840
from the ship powering up and getting hit with the

937
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,079
plasma or whatever. So it seems like his story has

938
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,480
changed to be something a little bit more beautiful than

939
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:11,480
this malicious horror story that really scared the hell out

940
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,400
of me when I was a kid and I watched it,

941
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,320
I was scared to death of aliens because they were

942
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,639
like these monsters who were real and are coming for

943
00:51:18,679 --> 00:51:20,199
you and if you see a light, you need to

944
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,800
run kind of thing. And and seeing that movie and

945
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:27,280
several others over the years when I was starting to

946
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,880
have my UFO experiences, like I didn't want nothing to do.

947
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,559
I was scared to death. They were gonna get me.

948
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:34,920
These were monsters or demons literally from the Christian perspective,

949
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,480
that we were summoning that we're going to come. So

950
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,480
that's the interesting thing about his story. Now he says

951
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:42,599
they picked him up because they needed to work on

952
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:44,320
him and hit them.

953
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 5: I have to watch his talk again. It's available right

954
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:56,079
now on Path eleven TV. Yeah, it's he did do

955
00:51:56,199 --> 00:52:01,760
a lot of debunking Hollywood or not debunking, correcting Hollywood

956
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:05,320
like that. The thing with when he gets blasted back

957
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,519
in the movie, I think he's just kind of like

958
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,119
trapped in the light. Yeah, and he goes now he goes, yeah,

959
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:15,440
I was not that that. Yeah, he did say something

960
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,199
like being knocked to the ground and it was like

961
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:21,480
a flash or something. And and the other thing too,

962
00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:24,239
is Hollywood too, is that they're drawing it out for

963
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:32,440
dramatic effect, like Independence Day, okay movie, but it makes

964
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,599
aliens look bad, you know, it's it's all. It's all

965
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:40,079
for the you know, promote a story basically.

966
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:46,519
Speaker 6: It's otherwise you wouldn't watch it, right, But those movies

967
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:48,800
over the years that were beautiful, like Cocoon was a

968
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,199
beautiful alien movie.

969
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:55,679
Speaker 3: There encounters with close encounters. That's like up for debate,

970
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:56,840
but I think it was I think it was more

971
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,559
more good Flighter than Navigator.

972
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 5: Was a beautiful Oh that's a classic.

973
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: You know what about you, April?

974
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:09,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I think about this a lot,

975
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:11,639
and I'm not sure. You know, I took an Angelic

976
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,800
Reiki training and there was a section there of the

977
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,480
star Star Seeds and the Onanaki race and and all

978
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:23,840
of that. And I haven't done enough really research or

979
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,800
probably sat in meditation to really know if I have

980
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,519
an opinion about it. My experience is that everything has

981
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:36,039
been very loving kind, you know, having a mental health

982
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,960
background and seeing you know, you kind of touched on

983
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,239
it in the beginning when we were kind of talking

984
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,400
about Mike's knee. A little theory that I'm coming up

985
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,239
with is, I don't know if sometimes some of the

986
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,199
paranormal or things that people are perceiving to be evil

987
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:56,119
or you know, demonic, if it's really negative like a

988
00:53:56,159 --> 00:53:59,880
negative entity type, or is it a collective of just

989
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:04,559
lower vibration thought forms, Because you know, I have experience

990
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:08,199
with some people who are experiencing paranormal stuff. There's also

991
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:13,239
a correlation with some depression and trauma and PTSD and anxiety.

992
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:16,719
So I'm still on the fence, you know. I mean,

993
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,480
I have never experienced anything scary in you know, over

994
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,199
I've been doing healing work now for over twenty years.

995
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,239
I've never I have experienced other entities that could be attached,

996
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,280
but they were never It was kind of like a

997
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,639
curiosity of an energy that was near another human being,

998
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:35,760
but they just kind of needed to go back to

999
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,239
where they came from. But it wasn't with ill will

1000
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:43,239
like we sometimes hear about like possessions and stuff like

1001
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,760
that in the Catholic religion. So my personal experience, and

1002
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:50,119
maybe it could be that I want to carry the

1003
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:53,440
belief system of more love and light rather than darker forces.

1004
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,880
And I think our consciousness can create a reality. So

1005
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,719
I don't know if I really subscribe to the to

1006
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,800
the darker side. I'm open to it. And I listen

1007
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,360
to what people say about these different alien races and

1008
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,280
how there's this battle of light and dark and careful

1009
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,239
of the Onanaki and they have these things, and you know,

1010
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,519
some people think President Trump is one of them or something,

1011
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:16,639
and we're just like, I don't know. Sometimes it gets

1012
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:18,599
so far out there that I just come back and

1013
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:20,719
I'm like, all right, this is too much. I gotta

1014
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,719
just come back to earth for a second. So I

1015
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,400
don't know, I'm still on the fence.

1016
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, when I started out on

1017
00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:30,960
my spiritual journey, it started out with the dark stuff,

1018
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,440
like getting into the occult at an early age, even

1019
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:38,480
like having a sleep paralysis experience at like four years

1020
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:40,840
old waking up being pinned to the bed with these

1021
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,639
some kind of creatures, dark shadows laying on each side

1022
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:48,760
of me. And those experiences, like you know, intrigued me

1023
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:52,119
as growing up as a teenager and watching scary movies

1024
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:55,280
and you know, paranormal you know, psychological thrillers and that

1025
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,079
kind of stuff and really open up the door for that.

1026
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,880
And I got into the occult at an early age

1027
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,400
and started trying to make packs with demons, and I

1028
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,320
was trained by like a warlock as a teenager and

1029
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,239
ended up biting off more than I can chew, and

1030
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,800
ended up in your neighborhood as far as you know,

1031
00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:15,960
you know, going through some mental stuff. I was going

1032
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,719
schizophrenic and had voices speaking to me and they would

1033
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,159
pull me in and out of portals at will, and

1034
00:56:21,519 --> 00:56:23,719
it was very scary. They were speaking to me in

1035
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,519
foreign languages. Had no idea what they were saying. I'd

1036
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:28,760
be in mid conversation with my girlfriend at the time

1037
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,280
and I would just be sucked in a trance and

1038
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,639
I couldn't talk, I couldn't move, and I got real

1039
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,280
pale and real cold and gas for breath, and I'd

1040
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,840
come back like what the hell, I couldn't make it stop,

1041
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,360
and so like it was real scary for me, and

1042
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,079
it was real dark, and it was I think adjacent

1043
00:56:44,159 --> 00:56:45,800
to a lot of the stuff that I was doing

1044
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,360
in my life. Like I was doing a lot of

1045
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,400
drugs and I was in gang activity. I would steal

1046
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,119
from people, rob people, just crazy stuff as a misguided team.

1047
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,559
And I think that I got to see the beings

1048
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:05,199
that were around me again with the type of lifestyle

1049
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,880
that I was living, that you know, this lower level,

1050
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,320
dense stuff, you attract that kind of energy, the lower

1051
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,599
level stuff, and we know that there's the angelic or

1052
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:17,679
at the higher levels and the really base stuff. Anything heavy, dark,

1053
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,199
low level, easily accessible kind of stuff hangs around that

1054
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,679
kind of activity and those kind of people. So that's

1055
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,280
when I got into the church. That's when I went

1056
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:32,360
changed my life and went back into the church. I

1057
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,639
knew I was going to have to go. And you know,

1058
00:57:34,639 --> 00:57:37,039
if I told a doctor what was going on being

1059
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:39,440
pulled into trances and portals and stuff, They're gonna put

1060
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:39,679
me on.

1061
00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 4: Medicine, medicine psychiatric hospital.

1062
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,679
Speaker 3: So at the time, you know, even for years after that,

1063
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,679
you know, that was just so scary and I didn't

1064
00:57:47,679 --> 00:57:50,199
want to be reminded or be around any of that stuff.

1065
00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:53,119
And thank God that they're far away from me now.

1066
00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:56,559
But at this point, like you know, my relationship has

1067
00:57:56,599 --> 00:57:59,719
even changed with those ideas and who I was and

1068
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,840
that energy, and I'm so thankful that they were like teachers,

1069
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,880
even they taught me a hard lesson, you know. And

1070
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,639
you know, just like in school, you got those teachers

1071
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:11,760
that you don't like or they show you tough love

1072
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,440
even you know, but they're here to show you a lesson.

1073
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,400
And so even the word angel, we know that that

1074
00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:20,039
just means a messenger. And so I feel like the

1075
00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:23,840
lower level demonic we would call it, just because it's darker, harsher,

1076
00:58:24,199 --> 00:58:27,199
they're still messengers. They carry a message with them and

1077
00:58:27,239 --> 00:58:29,519
we have to learn from those messages. And for me,

1078
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:32,400
it was like, if you continue on this path, and

1079
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,840
you continue ripping people off and lying, cheating and stealing,

1080
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,800
then you got to come, you know, spend some time

1081
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,320
with us, and we're going to be here for you.

1082
00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:42,320
But as you as sin and you do the more

1083
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,960
beautiful things in life and help people and do alms

1084
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,440
and meditation and prayer and taking care of your body,

1085
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,599
then you access what we'll call the angelic, the higher

1086
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:53,159
levels that we have access to. So now when I

1087
00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:55,840
do tap in through you know, meditation, breathwork, all of

1088
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,559
that stuff, it's been nothing but beautiful experiences on this

1089
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:03,280
side it. So that's my story and my contrast of

1090
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,840
like light in dark with all of this stuff.

1091
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that also that brings me to you know, my

1092
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,719
mom really struggled with addiction and for a while there

1093
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,480
she got addicted to heroin and she went missing and

1094
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:20,119
we couldn't find her. So I didn't know at the

1095
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:22,239
time that I was doing. I was going out of

1096
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,840
body and remote viewing. This was probably before Mike and

1097
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,880
I got together, actually, or right before, and I was

1098
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,480
just trying to find her in my consciousness, like trying

1099
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,920
to tap into her energy. Was She's still alive. And

1100
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,559
I remember traveling and I've never seen such darkness. I

1101
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:40,760
mean it scared me, and I went to one of

1102
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,199
my healers and exactly what you were saying. I think

1103
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:45,480
I was seeing the lower dense form of what that

1104
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:49,039
world looked like with addiction and drugs and especially heroin.

1105
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:51,519
And I remember saying, and I still say to people

1106
00:59:51,519 --> 00:59:54,920
this day, that the only time I really feel like

1107
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,440
I saw evil was when I went into the energetic

1108
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,440
of Heroin and that that world that my mom was

1109
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,280
living in, you know, and I remember one of my healers,

1110
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,800
she said, don't go there, stop going there. I'm like,

1111
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,840
I'm trying to find her. I'm trying to pull her back,

1112
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,679
you know. But it was intense. So as you were

1113
01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:14,000
telling that story, you just reminded me of a time

1114
01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:18,679
when I kind of entered a realm that was totally different,

1115
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,800
very dark too, But you're right as a teacher, and

1116
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,760
I learned something from that, you know, travel that was interesting.

1117
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,920
So sorry, Mike, didn't want to interrupt you.

1118
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:33,079
Speaker 5: It's just gonna end. It's similar and to circle back

1119
01:00:33,159 --> 01:00:34,719
kind of to what we were talking about at the

1120
01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:36,880
beginning of the show was you know the eleven eleven.

1121
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,280
I think when you are exposed as like the eleven

1122
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,000
eleven for example, it's like you're tapped into that frequency

1123
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,639
and you know, the earth that we're on, you know,

1124
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:53,599
we we experience a range of frequency from the lows

1125
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,480
to the highs, and you know, there's different things that

1126
01:00:56,519 --> 01:01:01,199
you experienced, many different levels within that. So you know,

1127
01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:04,880
when you just between the you know, the friends that

1128
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,000
you keep and you know, the people that you deal with,

1129
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:08,880
you know, they can bring you down to that low

1130
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,400
frequency or they can raise you up. And you know.

1131
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:19,880
It's it's similar to I've had an experience. I meant

1132
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,639
to bring it up earlier. It's similar to eleven eleven,

1133
01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:27,079
where you hear a word that you don't normally hear,

1134
01:01:27,239 --> 01:01:30,320
like this just happened a couple of days ago. I

1135
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,679
was listening to another podcast or radio show and they

1136
01:01:33,719 --> 01:01:35,760
said a word that I don't think I've heard since

1137
01:01:36,639 --> 01:01:40,400
fifteen years ago. I of course, now I can't remember

1138
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,519
what it was, and it's the first time I've heard

1139
01:01:43,559 --> 01:01:46,840
in fifteen years. And then I've heard it five six

1140
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,320
times that the rest of the day. It's like where,

1141
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,679
you know, where did this? And it wasn't something like

1142
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,880
a trend that's like, you know, iPhone or you know

1143
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,079
or PlayStation five or whatever the hot thing is this year.

1144
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:02,760
You know, It's like it was something that it was

1145
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,239
like a vocabulary word. I wish I could remember it

1146
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,440
because if I told it to you now, you'd probably

1147
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,679
hear it like five more times for the rest of

1148
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:10,960
the week.

1149
01:02:11,039 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: And I'm just gonna throw this out there. I know

1150
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,719
this isn't it, But I had an experience just like that.

1151
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,480
It wasn't a month of Sundays. Was it longer than

1152
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,280
a month of Sundays? Man that I had a similar

1153
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,480
experience with that phrase that I've never heard. I've never

1154
01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:26,800
heard that until like it was like twenty twelve. And

1155
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,000
then listen to a podcast and I'm listening to a

1156
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:30,880
teacher and I'm like three or four people the same

1157
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,599
day are using this phrase that I never even heard,

1158
01:02:33,639 --> 01:02:36,400
And now that whole day, everyone's using that phrase. And

1159
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,800
then it's gone, like that kind of thing that happens,

1160
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,360
hold on something. It's like day jafol. It's almost like

1161
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,039
you're talking about the matrix where there's a glitch in

1162
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:47,280
the matrix when the cat keeps walking by like a glitch,

1163
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,960
like hold on something. We're noticing something is up. Somebody's

1164
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,960
trying to get our attention, somebody's trying to tell us something.

1165
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:55,559
Let's look a little bit deeper kind of.

1166
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 5: Thing, right, Yeah, So yeah, it's that phrase, and it's

1167
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,599
you know, think of any phrase you know saying that

1168
01:03:05,639 --> 01:03:07,039
you you know, your mom used to say to you

1169
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:10,519
or something, and it's like you haven't heard it since then,

1170
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:12,000
and all of a sudden, you hear it. You hear

1171
01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:14,079
it on a podcast, and you see it in a movie,

1172
01:03:14,199 --> 01:03:18,039
and you know, you know, another relative of calling in

1173
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,719
and say the same phrase, and I haven't heard this

1174
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,679
in like fifteen twenty years. Why Why is everybody unrelated

1175
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,039
talking about the same thing. And then it'll move on

1176
01:03:27,159 --> 01:03:30,800
and it'll be something else next week, you know. Yep,

1177
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:31,800
it's just interesting.

1178
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:38,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, the synchronicities, they are beautiful and so many stories

1179
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:39,559
and a weird thing about it. You got I think

1180
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:42,119
you gotta be careful, a little bit not careful, but

1181
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,920
you know when you share them, like it doesn't mean

1182
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,159
something to everybody, Like it's one of those things where

1183
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:49,599
like you had to be there, like you had to

1184
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:52,599
be there to experience it, but you you were there

1185
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,000
and you experienced it, and it meant something to you.

1186
01:03:57,159 --> 01:03:59,800
It was a glitch for you. I remember, I remember

1187
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,440
when time, because when this stuff was fresh, like this

1188
01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:04,679
stuff was amazing, you know, and it still happens and

1189
01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:07,000
it's still amazing, but right when it was fresh, it

1190
01:04:07,079 --> 01:04:10,000
was so good. Like I remember being at work and

1191
01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:13,519
being really exhausted, like early in the morning at work,

1192
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:19,880
and we had a water cooler fountain, and I was

1193
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,679
gonna go get a sip of water. But I knew

1194
01:04:21,679 --> 01:04:24,280
that the water was murky, like it had like I

1195
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,000
don't know, it was like chemicals in the water. But

1196
01:04:26,039 --> 01:04:27,800
I was so thirsty. I was about to drink it,

1197
01:04:28,199 --> 01:04:32,000
and and there was a song on the on the

1198
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:34,000
radio that was playing, and I went to drink it,

1199
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,360
and the song came on and said, don't drink the water.

1200
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,920
It was singing it, don't drink the water. I was like,

1201
01:04:39,559 --> 01:04:42,159
oh God, I'm not gonna drink this. Okay, God, you know,

1202
01:04:42,239 --> 01:04:45,239
I'm not gonna have a step. But you know, something

1203
01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:50,239
I can't think. I don't know if it was fuel

1204
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,639
or somebody it was. It was an alternative song. But

1205
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:55,519
and I've got so many, but some of them are

1206
01:04:55,559 --> 01:04:58,639
like little things like that, but some of them are big,

1207
01:04:59,079 --> 01:05:02,440
you know, like what you got are doing? Another one,

1208
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,760
there was this guy he was he was contemplating about

1209
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,679
giving me a call to get up with me. He

1210
01:05:07,719 --> 01:05:10,480
was listening to my podcast, listening to my music. But

1211
01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:13,320
he was involved in church and he knew that if

1212
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,199
he shared my articles, if he shared my podcast, he

1213
01:05:16,239 --> 01:05:18,800
would they would pull him aside at church and say, hey,

1214
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,400
stay away from this guy. Don't you know this guy's

1215
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,880
in the occult or whatever they would say. And so

1216
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,760
he was having second thoughts about calling me. He had

1217
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,800
my number, all of that, and so he was he's

1218
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,119
two states away, UH in Louisiana. I'm in Alabama. So

1219
01:05:33,199 --> 01:05:37,800
he's where I used to live. And he's sitting in

1220
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,199
traffic at UH at a red light in Louisiana, and

1221
01:05:41,199 --> 01:05:43,119
he's on his phone. He's thinking about calling me. He's

1222
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:45,920
got my profile pulled up and he's sitting there. He's like,

1223
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,159
should I call him or not? And then he looks

1224
01:05:48,239 --> 01:05:50,119
up and there's a bumper sticker. It's one of my

1225
01:05:50,159 --> 01:05:52,840
bumper stickers on a car in front of him that

1226
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,360
says seek Truth truthseeker dot com. So he's got his phone,

1227
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:57,760
he's like, should I call him? And he looks up

1228
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,599
and there's a van with my bumper sticker, like two

1229
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:02,920
states away. He's like, okay, lord, I'll call him. And

1230
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,519
so he ended up calling me, and then we got

1231
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:06,159
to connect and I got to go over to his

1232
01:06:06,239 --> 01:06:08,280
house and meet with him and his family. And it

1233
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,599
was a beautiful experience where you see like the synchronicities

1234
01:06:11,639 --> 01:06:17,119
come together to open up a door of beautiful opportunity.

1235
01:06:17,199 --> 01:06:20,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually this is a side too of another thing

1236
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,000
that we do. We have another podcast called mind Bender's

1237
01:06:23,079 --> 01:06:27,679
Podcast just for those stories. And it was actually inspired

1238
01:06:27,719 --> 01:06:29,920
by my dad. My dad's a huge Jimmy Hendricks fan,

1239
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,079
and without giving it away too much, he basically there

1240
01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:37,599
was a day where Jimmy Hendrick's granddaughter showed up at

1241
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:41,039
my dad's house. And the synchronicity of the story is

1242
01:06:41,079 --> 01:06:43,880
just like wild and crazy. And I said, Dad, would

1243
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,960
you mind like coming on a podcast? And I think

1244
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,599
I wanted to be totally separate from pafal even podcasts,

1245
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,079
because this story is just so mind it literally mind bending.

1246
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:54,960
That's why we came up with mind Vendors. But stories

1247
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,440
like that, they are just so inspiring and make people think.

1248
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:01,079
You know, it's like you could hear some outrageous stories

1249
01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:02,960
like that to say, come on, was that? What was that?

1250
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:04,119
Is that just a coincidence?

1251
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 3: I got more? That ain't nothing. That's nothing compared to

1252
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:09,719
the other stuff.

1253
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, yeah, it means something to you though,

1254
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,400
Like it's it's close to your heart and it lets

1255
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,639
you know that, hey, something else is going on, you know,

1256
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,920
exactly exactly yeah, I love those stories.

1257
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,679
Speaker 3: So where do we go from here? Was anything that

1258
01:07:24,719 --> 01:07:26,719
we didn't mention that you guys want to talk about

1259
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,599
any experiences with the afterlife or ghost or like this

1260
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:32,800
is the this is the place to get it out man.

1261
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,159
That the audience loves those experiences, those stories.

1262
01:07:37,079 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, gosh, I don't know. It's kind of hard being

1263
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,960
put on the spot, you know, Like I know I

1264
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,039
have a ton, but I'm not.

1265
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 3: Sure it was one. There was this one experience I had, like, yeah,

1266
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,519
what about ghost? I mean, we talk about the afterlife

1267
01:07:48,519 --> 01:07:51,440
and so it's always been a touchy subject. I mean

1268
01:07:52,039 --> 01:07:55,599
I interview people who you know, have journeys there and

1269
01:07:55,639 --> 01:07:59,159
come back near death experiences. I have my own beliefs

1270
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:02,239
and then they get wrestled against other people's experiences. And

1271
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,280
even though like I am pretty steadfast in my belief

1272
01:08:05,519 --> 01:08:08,719
I still have doubts of like of this idea of

1273
01:08:08,719 --> 01:08:11,840
I'm trying to explain what happens in the afterlife because

1274
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,880
I'm so scared of going into non existence. There's a

1275
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,800
bunch of stuff. And the more I talk about it,

1276
01:08:17,079 --> 01:08:19,720
you feel like the more reassurance you get. But the

1277
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:24,000
more questions I have about death and the after life,

1278
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,680
but the paranormal and the occult and all of this stuff.

1279
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,520
It gives credence to and after life that we don't

1280
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,359
just disappear when we die, like there is something that

1281
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,560
carries over. We may not be able to put our

1282
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,439
fingers exactly on it, but we have ideas and we

1283
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,279
have stories that people have come back with. And even

1284
01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:46,840
though the echoes from the other side, people seeing stuff,

1285
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,279
and that's one of the big things for me, when

1286
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:52,279
you see a ghost or you have that synchronicity, like

1287
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:55,359
hold on, I can't make this up. Whether it's consciousness

1288
01:08:55,359 --> 01:08:58,800
that continues to live on and we all become one

1289
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,039
so much so, and when we just like to explore

1290
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:04,359
different people's experiences and beliefs and stuff. But for you guys,

1291
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,319
with all of your research and experiences and interactions as well,

1292
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,239
what do you think happens when we cross over to

1293
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:11,880
the other side?

1294
01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:16,199
Speaker 5: April? Do you want to start?

1295
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't sure who wanted to go first. Well,

1296
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:25,039
I definitely believe that consciousness continues, you know, I don't

1297
01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:27,720
think that there is a death And sometimes that's scary

1298
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,439
too to think about this, like it never ends. Can

1299
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:35,560
I just get a break? You know, I have had experiences.

1300
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:40,479
When I was younger, My grandmother's house always felt very haunted.

1301
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:44,600
It was a very old house, and everyone in the

1302
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,279
family always felt in certain rooms it just felt scary

1303
01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:49,560
to be there. The energy was strange. You'd always feel

1304
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,119
like there was somebody walking behind you. I had some

1305
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,359
always strange experiences when I'm sleeping. I have a lot

1306
01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:59,880
of bedside visits where I had to actually communicate with

1307
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:02,760
spirits or ghosts to like stop bothering me when I

1308
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,960
was sleeping, and they would like wake me up. But

1309
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,239
the one that was most vivid was in a hotel room.

1310
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,960
I woke up and there was a man with really

1311
01:10:11,159 --> 01:10:13,880
almost kind of curly hair like yours. It was dark,

1312
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,399
but he was wearing a top hat and had like

1313
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,920
it might have been you, yeah really And I don't

1314
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,680
think he had glasses though, but really like curly cues

1315
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,800
coming down. And I woke up and he was like

1316
01:10:25,159 --> 01:10:28,119
in my face so close. I woke up screaming and

1317
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:30,600
he was just like contorting his head and looking at

1318
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,960
me like what are you doing here? And with my screams,

1319
01:10:34,119 --> 01:10:37,319
his face just started to, you know, kind of dissolve away.

1320
01:10:38,319 --> 01:10:41,159
That was kind of maybe the most vivid experience of

1321
01:10:41,159 --> 01:10:45,319
seeing a ghost before. I think sometimes what I feel

1322
01:10:46,119 --> 01:10:48,439
is more of the energy of something that might be

1323
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,920
in a home or a house. And again there's like

1324
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,840
other work that I've done with I guess what you

1325
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,159
would call an earth bound spirit, some people who might

1326
01:10:57,199 --> 01:10:59,880
have either have taken their life or were stuck on

1327
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:03,159
a certain plane of reality that needed some help in

1328
01:11:03,239 --> 01:11:07,920
transitioning over. So I've had those experiences, but nothing like

1329
01:11:08,079 --> 01:11:11,239
too scary or shattering, like you know, this ghost was

1330
01:11:11,279 --> 01:11:14,319
walking like you hear apparition stories. I've never experienced that,

1331
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:15,680
but maybe Mike has.

1332
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, my dad grew up in a haunted house and

1333
01:11:24,039 --> 01:11:29,399
he had He's one of six kids, really Catholic, religious family.

1334
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,119
My grandmother didn't believe any of it, even though there

1335
01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:35,279
was like doors were like flying open and things were

1336
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:42,800
falling off shelves. They had a party once, you know,

1337
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,119
family friends came over. This is like mid six nineteen sixties,

1338
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,840
and this is around the time when my father and

1339
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,399
my uncle, his older brother, were starting to date. So

1340
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:58,000
like my mother eventually become my mother was there with them,

1341
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,319
and my aunt, who I knew later on would was

1342
01:12:01,359 --> 01:12:06,359
there dating my uncle's and so they're at this party

1343
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,159
and my one aunt disappeared for a while. She wasn't

1344
01:12:09,159 --> 01:12:11,399
really familiar you know, this was like their fourth or

1345
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,800
the date, so she wasn't really too familiar with the family.

1346
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,680
But she went off and she was talking with somebody,

1347
01:12:16,359 --> 01:12:19,600
and everybody who described them only they never saw his face,

1348
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,279
but they saw except my aunt who was talking to him.

1349
01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:25,880
So but everybody who she was talking to saw that

1350
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,479
she was talking to somebody. They just saw like the

1351
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,359
back or they couldn't only see like his shoulder or anything.

1352
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,640
And they went off into another room where we're talking.

1353
01:12:33,359 --> 01:12:36,279
It was a little while later she came out and

1354
01:12:38,359 --> 01:12:40,399
my uncle went up to her and said, oh, who

1355
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:43,159
were you talking to? We didn't know you, you know,

1356
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,319
thinking maybe she brought a friend, you know, or brother

1357
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,439
or something. Actually she didn't have a brother, but you know,

1358
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,560
who did she bring, you know, this other guy? And

1359
01:12:53,119 --> 01:12:55,119
she's like, oh, no, I was talking to your uncle John.

1360
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,479
And my uncle's like, I don't have an uncle John.

1361
01:12:58,199 --> 01:13:01,079
And they're like, yeah, I was just talking to him

1362
01:13:01,079 --> 01:13:02,600
for like forty five minutes. What do you mean you

1363
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,479
don't have an uncle John. And of course my uncle's like,

1364
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,560
you know, he goes to my grandmother and he goes, Mom,

1365
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,000
do we have an uncle John? And don't look at John.

1366
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,199
And so they brought out you know, of course, my

1367
01:13:13,279 --> 01:13:15,159
grandparents were big in the photos. They had a big

1368
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:17,720
photo album they went back like fifty years and photos

1369
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,279
or whatever it was, and they're going through and she

1370
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,920
pointed them out like instantly. She's like, oh, that's the guy.

1371
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,039
And he's like, that's my grandfather. He died like ten

1372
01:13:27,119 --> 01:13:32,119
years ago. And everybody was like, no way and had

1373
01:13:32,119 --> 01:13:35,319
to shortly. I don't of course, I wasn't there when

1374
01:13:35,319 --> 01:13:37,800
this happened. But a few minutes later or so, as

1375
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:43,079
my dad recalls it, my two other younger uncles ran in.

1376
01:13:43,319 --> 01:13:45,720
They were playing football, you know, catch or something outside

1377
01:13:46,039 --> 01:13:49,600
and the ball went across the street and my uncle

1378
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,279
went to get the ball and it rolled up to

1379
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,359
the feet of my great grandfather, their grandfather at the time,

1380
01:13:58,039 --> 01:14:00,359
and of course they, you know, they ran inside dreaming,

1381
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:05,600
Likerandpa's outside, he's dead. And I even I talked to

1382
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,479
my one uncle about it. I talked to my dad.

1383
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,399
I'd heard it like a dozen times from my dad,

1384
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,079
and then I'd heard it from my uncle. And he goes, oh, yeah,

1385
01:14:12,079 --> 01:14:14,680
he goes the other uncle who ran to get the ball,

1386
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,399
saw his face. My other uncle could only see like

1387
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,920
his like from the waist down and could smell his cigars.

1388
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,640
Yeah and uh because he had a distingar and yeah,

1389
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,920
he had died. Yeah, I don't know, a few years

1390
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,760
before all this happened. So and then so later, a

1391
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,880
few years later, my father's family moves out of that house,

1392
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,920
and my one uncle, who was my other I have

1393
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,760
a lot of family, and the other uncle became a

1394
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,800
cop for the city of Kingston and he became friends

1395
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,600
with another guy in the city of Kingston, who I

1396
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,760
I who's friends of our family. And turns out they

1397
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,159
moved into the same house like twenty years. Of course,

1398
01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:58,960
my uncle and my father, you know, every time, you know,

1399
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:00,920
growing up, they would go into the house and he

1400
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,840
would say, hey, uncle Fred, yell into the goat. So

1401
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,960
my uncle, who's the cop. I'm trying to keep this

1402
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,279
as simple as possible. Uncle was the cop went to

1403
01:15:12,359 --> 01:15:17,439
his fellow cops house the same house or having a

1404
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,000
housewarming party or barbecue or something. He walks into the

1405
01:15:20,039 --> 01:15:22,800
house and he goes, oh, I have like twenty five

1406
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,680
years or whatever. It was, and of course my uncle said, hey,

1407
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:31,119
Uncle Fred, just to be funny about it, and the

1408
01:15:31,239 --> 01:15:32,920
friend was like, what are you talk about. It's not

1409
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,600
Uncle Fred, it's Uncle Charlie. He keeps us up all night.

1410
01:15:36,119 --> 01:15:39,000
He's slamming doors, knocking things off the shelf. So like

1411
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,600
it's like they have this another house being haunted for

1412
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,840
all these decades, between two different families not talking about

1413
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:51,800
it being haunted, and one of which cop which one

1414
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,640
of the police officers, was looked into the records of

1415
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,760
the house and it turns out around the time the

1416
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,840
house was built, I think in the late eighteenth it

1417
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:03,159
was two sisters lived there and there was some sort

1418
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:05,960
of brutal murder went on and it was in the

1419
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,560
police records and it's been haunted ever since.

1420
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,239
Speaker 3: Wow, that's some crazy stories, have y'all seen, like the

1421
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,479
haunting of Hillhouse or haunting of Black Manner like that

1422
01:16:19,359 --> 01:16:22,960
for some wild mind bends when it comes to the

1423
01:16:23,039 --> 01:16:26,920
afterlife and ghosts and apparitions and recordings and all that

1424
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:27,560
kind of stuff.

1425
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, my daughter's totally into that.

1426
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:30,279
Speaker 3: That's that.

1427
01:16:30,399 --> 01:16:31,399
Speaker 5: She got me hooked on those.

1428
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:35,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, really good, you know it. You know, it makes

1429
01:16:35,159 --> 01:16:37,640
me some interesting conversations man for me when I was

1430
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,640
watching it and then I would I would watch it

1431
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,359
and then the next day I'm talking to people about,

1432
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,439
you know, on the podcast, and it's like, I feel

1433
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:46,960
like it messed with me a lot, you know. It

1434
01:16:47,039 --> 01:16:48,880
was a lot of death and a lot of sorrow

1435
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,640
and a lot of like instant death and this idea

1436
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,199
with death and one of the fears. But it's probably

1437
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,720
ninety percent the way we go is we don't get

1438
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,479
to say goodbye. It's like, hey, I'm going to McDonald's,

1439
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,640
I'm going to good dinner. I'll be back in a minute,

1440
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,920
and you never come back like these weird you know.

1441
01:17:07,079 --> 01:17:10,399
So just for me, death also in a study of

1442
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,880
the paranormal in after Life, it makes me be more

1443
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:17,880
present while I'm an appreciation of life, of how short

1444
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,560
this experience is and to be present and to be

1445
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,760
in the moment. And then we look into books on

1446
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,079
consciousness and Eckhart totally about being in the now and

1447
01:17:26,159 --> 01:17:29,159
staying here and even fighting for it, fighting to be

1448
01:17:29,239 --> 01:17:32,840
president conversation fighting to be president in a podcast like this,

1449
01:17:33,039 --> 01:17:35,399
and so because it's it's fleeting, a few minutes, you

1450
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:37,760
guys will be gone and onto the next thing, but

1451
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,960
just to be you know, great for every moment and

1452
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,079
every experience that we have. And so for me, the

1453
01:17:43,079 --> 01:17:45,039
study of the after life and all of that brings

1454
01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:47,960
that mindfulness to the table. So I think that's why,

1455
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:51,039
you know, spirituality goes hand in hand with studying the

1456
01:17:51,319 --> 01:17:53,560
after life and consciousness and things.

1457
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And that's that's really what

1458
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,720
you know, our new networks about Path leven T. We

1459
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,680
kind of feel like, you know, we're we're seekers just

1460
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,600
like everybody else, and we have the equipment, we're going out,

1461
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,960
we're filming stuff, and we're library for you you know,

1462
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:14,399
and we're you know, basically interviewing and reaching things that

1463
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,960
we're curious about. But we are also trying to build

1464
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,960
a community similar to like what you're doing, you know,

1465
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,439
with your Patreon page too, and you know, we're very

1466
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,399
interactive with people who come from the podcast or through

1467
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,239
our website or you know, who have already subscribed to

1468
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:30,039
the Path eleven TV because we launched it on November eleventh,

1469
01:18:30,039 --> 01:18:33,720
of course, eleven eleven. And that's really our goal too,

1470
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,279
is to help people who are on this path and

1471
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,720
maybe they're just beginning, and we have some footage there

1472
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,039
on Path leven TV that's going to help them a lot.

1473
01:18:42,079 --> 01:18:46,079
And I think because you know, with Mike's initial depression

1474
01:18:46,119 --> 01:18:49,720
that he had gone through with experiencing so much loss

1475
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,359
in the beginning, we do haven't about life after death,

1476
01:18:53,399 --> 01:18:55,640
and I think it's important because how could you be

1477
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,079
here and not questions? So I would say that we

1478
01:18:59,159 --> 01:19:01,119
have a lot of stuff on Path Leve and TV

1479
01:19:01,239 --> 01:19:04,239
that can really help people who are grieving, especially all

1480
01:19:04,279 --> 01:19:06,239
the footage from the afterlife. I mean, there are some

1481
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,319
stellar presenters there who are just real experts in the

1482
01:19:10,359 --> 01:19:13,359
field of and it covers all so many different topics.

1483
01:19:13,359 --> 01:19:15,840
That's what I love about Terry Dandy organize that conference.

1484
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,239
I mean of all different ethnicities in different ways that

1485
01:19:19,319 --> 01:19:22,399
cultures look at death. And she has Shamans there that

1486
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,960
we're doing circles and Grimoni's at the end and stuff

1487
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,079
like that. So it's really beautiful. But I would say,

1488
01:19:28,119 --> 01:19:29,680
you know, we have a lot of content there to

1489
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,960
help people maybe answer some of their questions about what happened.

1490
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,479
I on Path Leve and TV awesome.

1491
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,399
Speaker 3: And you guys have a promo for our listeners, right, yes.

1492
01:19:39,319 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 4: We do. We do. So we have a promo It

1493
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,720
is Launch forty l A U, n C H forty

1494
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,279
and that will take off their annual subscription subscription, which

1495
01:19:50,319 --> 01:19:52,560
we'll bring it down to fifty nine to ninety nine.

1496
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,600
The price is going to go back up probably the

1497
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,199
first but you know, gonna last forever. Maybe we'll keep

1498
01:19:58,199 --> 01:20:02,279
that Launch forty just for with seeker listeners. And then

1499
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,640
we also have the option for people to subscribe monthly.

1500
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,800
It's like a true commitment that they have a commitment

1501
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,079
phobia or something like that and they just want to

1502
01:20:10,119 --> 01:20:12,840
check it out month to month. Mike has a code

1503
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,079
to give you, guys for the monthly subscription.

1504
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:17,119
Speaker 3: You also have a free trial as well.

1505
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:21,359
Speaker 5: Right oh yeah, yeah, yeah, everything is a free trial

1506
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:26,000
seven days. Yeah, watch as much as you want. We

1507
01:20:26,039 --> 01:20:28,840
also have our podcast we do since the lockdown of

1508
01:20:29,039 --> 01:20:31,800
you know, with the COVID thing, we've been doing a video.

1509
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,359
We've been recording video. We'le talking with our guests, so

1510
01:20:35,399 --> 01:20:39,000
we have all those video actually have on the TV side.

1511
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,359
We have the latest eleven for free. You don't even

1512
01:20:42,399 --> 01:20:45,399
need a membership for that. But after Life twenty five,

1513
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,279
if you want to do a month to month you

1514
01:20:47,319 --> 01:20:50,439
get twenty five percent off your first three months. I

1515
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,479
think it's like seven seven fifty or something a month,

1516
01:20:53,840 --> 01:21:01,720
which is like Starbucks coffee or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I

1517
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,520
encourage you know, anybody to try it out for seven days.

1518
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,560
You don't like it, it's fine. We're constantly adding more stuff.

1519
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,800
We have a new show coming out, Terry Daniels show,

1520
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,319
which we mentioned earlier as Doctor Death is coming out

1521
01:21:12,359 --> 01:21:15,159
next at least the first three episodes or so. And

1522
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:19,039
then we have the twenty twenty Afterlife conference, which we

1523
01:21:19,119 --> 01:21:22,439
filmed back in June. We had to do that virtually

1524
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:27,520
with you know, the COVID thing. That'll yeah in early January.

1525
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:32,720
It's about probably about twenty hours of virtual presentations, you know, amazing.

1526
01:21:33,359 --> 01:21:36,159
And then of course we have more season two of

1527
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:41,319
Conversations coming out next year. Oh Robbins. We have a

1528
01:21:41,399 --> 01:21:43,960
it's like an hour and a half just sit down

1529
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,279
to talk with Peter Robbins. That'll probably come out in

1530
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:50,279
January also, people, Yeah.

1531
01:21:50,039 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 3: That's what I like. I'll be there. I like all

1532
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,399
of it, you know, I'm into all of it. But yeah, everybody,

1533
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,840
make sure you check it out. Go to patheleven tv

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dot com again, use pro launch for to get forty

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off of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, forty for the full year. That'll probably be the

1537
01:22:05,319 --> 01:22:07,800
cheapest it'll ever be. Yeah, and then after life twenty

1538
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,960
five for the monthly.

1539
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 5: All right, And I just want to add our our apps.

1540
01:22:14,399 --> 01:22:16,960
If you have an iPhone that's already the iPhone apps

1541
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,600
already out, the Apple TV, if you have an Apple TV,

1542
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,520
you can watch all this in your living room. That

1543
01:22:23,079 --> 01:22:26,039
I know, Android and I think Android TV are coming

1544
01:22:26,039 --> 01:22:29,880
out this week and Amazon's next week something like that.

1545
01:22:31,119 --> 01:22:32,600
You submit all these doors and you got to wait

1546
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,279
for them to approve it. So Rokuk's coming out at

1547
01:22:35,279 --> 01:22:39,079
some point too before January. So good, So you can

1548
01:22:39,119 --> 01:22:40,359
watch all this in your living room.

1549
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 3: Now, what for like your own websites? Like you said

1550
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,520
that Mike is available for hire in April. You do

1551
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,359
energy healing and stuff like that, and now what about

1552
01:22:48,399 --> 01:22:49,880
for that if people want to connect with you guys

1553
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:50,439
on that level.

1554
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 4: Sure. My website is Hannah'shealing dot com. So it's my

1555
01:22:55,039 --> 01:22:59,359
last name AHS Healing dot com and that's where people

1556
01:22:59,359 --> 01:23:01,880
can find me and they can book sessions. I do

1557
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,039
do virtual sessions as.

1558
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:08,199
Speaker 5: Well, and mine is nic Productions dot Com. I don't

1559
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:10,399
know if your listeners are more into my stuff because

1560
01:23:10,399 --> 01:23:13,399
I just companies hiring me to do you know, video

1561
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,239
for websites or social media, so it's not.

1562
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 3: Got a lot of podcasters and everybody want to started

1563
01:23:18,119 --> 01:23:20,479
in video and all that stuff. So it's perfect time

1564
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:21,960
for for you know what you're doing.

1565
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and Mike does all of our podcasts Pathlevenpodcasts

1566
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,960
dot com. Derek, we're gonna have to have you on.

1567
01:23:28,039 --> 01:23:29,800
I want to read your book and the things that

1568
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,079
I do, I read probably three books a week, and uh,

1569
01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:35,399
you know, interview people over on Path eleven podcasts, So

1570
01:23:35,399 --> 01:23:37,520
I would love to get you on there as well.

1571
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,319
Speaker 3: For sure. I got ling I'd love to come on.

1572
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,039
Speaker 4: Okay, that'd be great.

1573
01:23:41,119 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 3: All right, guys, thanks so much for hanging out with me.

1574
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,840
Really appreciate it. We have to do it again when

1575
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,920
y'all got something new come out or you know, want

1576
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,119
to cross promote land. I'm gonna sign up for your

1577
01:23:49,159 --> 01:23:51,159
site as well. Thanks so much for everything that you

1578
01:23:51,159 --> 01:23:51,880
guys got going on.

1579
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you for all the work you're doing. It

1580
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:55,840
was a real pleasure to be here.

1581
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,079
Speaker 3: Thank you for sure, many blessings. Guys. We'll do it again.

1582
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 4: You too. All right by.

1583
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 3: April and Mike from Path eleven tv dot com. Make

1584
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,000
sure you guys go check it out. They work really

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01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,079
hard on one on and there's some beautiful stuff, really

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hot quality stuff too, so check it out Path eleventv

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1589
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,840
it out. Good stuff, man, really really good conversation. We

1590
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,199
covered a lot and uh we took covered ghosts, aliens,

1591
01:24:32,239 --> 01:24:37,840
the afterlife, you know, channeling, remote viewing, flying off the

1592
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,920
planet and with your consciousness and visiting foreign realms. We

1593
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,039
covered it all and I love it. I love it.

1594
01:24:44,079 --> 01:24:46,920
Just like they were talking about how like in a presentation,

1595
01:24:47,119 --> 01:24:49,079
it takes you on a journey, and so hopefully that's

1596
01:24:49,119 --> 01:24:51,640
what you get from this podcast as well, So it's

1597
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,880
not just catering to one thing. You're introduced to new

1598
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,800
it as well as you hear somebody talk about their

1599
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,039
experiences with the afterlife, or their experience just with a

1600
01:25:01,159 --> 01:25:05,880
UFO ship or meditating and talking to beings that come

1601
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:10,199
to assist in the evolutionary healing of the planet, all

1602
01:25:10,199 --> 01:25:12,800
of that stuff. So that's what this show is about,

1603
01:25:13,279 --> 01:25:15,680
you know too. And I was, you know, and I'm

1604
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,199
sure they do it the same way. It's just like

1605
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,119
being creating what you needed when you were going through

1606
01:25:22,159 --> 01:25:26,520
your awakening, Like what content did I need? What podcast

1607
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,760
episodes did not just I want to listen to? But

1608
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,119
did I need to listen to? On this road of

1609
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:37,640
awakening which can seem lonely and scary at times, and

1610
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,000
even with you know, you know, Mike talking about coming

1611
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,159
out with his his his films and stuff, and his

1612
01:25:43,239 --> 01:25:45,159
parents are like, yeah, it's good quality, but we're not

1613
01:25:45,239 --> 01:25:47,199
going to watch it. We're going to pass. Like that

1614
01:25:47,239 --> 01:25:50,079
could be heartbreaking, you know. So to have community and

1615
01:25:50,119 --> 01:25:52,800
have people who have your back, who know what you're

1616
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,920
talking about, who aren't going to write you off as

1617
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,399
crazy listen, just showing up and letting people know that

1618
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,039
you're not alone. It goes so far these days for sure.

1619
01:26:02,119 --> 01:26:05,039
So with this podcast, what I'm doing, what April and

1620
01:26:05,079 --> 01:26:07,279
Mike could bring it to the table, same thing, be

1621
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,760
that version of yourself that you needed when you were younger.

1622
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,520
That's all of this, and with doing that, you know,

1623
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,439
we're gonna heal the planet, We're gonna help people, you know,

1624
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,720
and that goes a long way. Shout out. Look, April,

1625
01:26:20,079 --> 01:26:22,800
the little April's already become a patron. Thank you April

1626
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,239
so much for becoming a patron. He's a five dollar

1627
01:26:25,319 --> 01:26:27,359
patron now, thank you so much for that. And we

1628
01:26:27,399 --> 01:26:29,079
had some other people earlier. I'll give you a shout

1629
01:26:29,079 --> 01:26:31,840
out on the next episode who became patrons during this episode.

1630
01:26:32,279 --> 01:26:34,560
And so make sure you guys check out their work. Man.

1631
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,119
They you know, everybody who is is for love and light,

1632
01:26:38,279 --> 01:26:41,159
you know, and so and you know, we I think

1633
01:26:41,159 --> 01:26:43,680
we a lot of people try to I hear this

1634
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,560
a lot with like little sny remarks and about how

1635
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,119
you know, light workers only focus on love and light

1636
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:52,199
and they don't want to talk about the darkness and

1637
01:26:52,239 --> 01:26:55,479
the heavy side which exists, and uh, and they try

1638
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,760
to turn a blind eye to it. But I think

1639
01:26:59,319 --> 01:27:02,800
it's because we know that the dark side is real,

1640
01:27:03,159 --> 01:27:06,680
that we know that there exists, like the lower level path,

1641
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,640
the left hand path, the path, the path of service

1642
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:15,520
to self versus service to others, a self serving path

1643
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,279
which usually is the path of the deception, the path

1644
01:27:19,319 --> 01:27:22,479
of the dark side, which leads to destruction. It is

1645
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,640
the wide path, and so we understand that that's there,

1646
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,560
so we want to focus on the beauty and the

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love and the light because that's how you get out

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and off of the path of darkness. And so that's

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why we talk about this stuff. That's why we bring

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hope and healing to people, whether it's through one on

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one sessions or it's through television and content and podcast

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01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,960
and music and all of that stuff that we're bringing

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to the table. Every move is a calculated step. So

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there's a reason why we are about love and light

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01:27:54,079 --> 01:27:55,439
and we want to talk about the stuff, and we

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want to encourage you and have you to ask the

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bigger questions and build are in wonder in your imagination

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and creativity for you to do the same, because it's

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all real. Like April was saying, all paths are true,

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and you create it as you think it. The Bible says,

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as a man thinketh in his heart, So Isy, whatever

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you can fathom and conjure up in your own thinking,

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and it will lead you down that path. Whether that's

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of fairies and unicorns and aliens and angels and all

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of that, beings of love and light, they exist, and

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there's a level and the frequency that all exists on,

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and there's a path that you begin to walk down

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as you begin to entertain your eye gates and your

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ear gates and you open up to receive that information.

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The same is true for the darkness. And I was

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wanting to point out, just as there is a love

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and light side of frequencies and synchronicities and all of

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those things, right, the beautiful synchronicities and things that are awesome, listen,

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that stuff exists on the dark side too. The paranormal

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and synchronicities are real for people who were into the

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dark arts, who were into hardcore drug use and pil

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addiction and lying and cheating and stealing, and then like,

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they have a lot of weird paranormal synchronistic stuff too,

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but for the most part it is weird demonic stuff.

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It is like it's not cool. I can just tell

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you one little thing. I remember this. One guy was

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a tattoo artist and he was like neo Nazi, and

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but they were into like using heroin and contacting the

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devil and all types of crazy stuff. When I was younger,

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he was a lot older than me, but he had

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this paper that he held on him and so he

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had finished tattooing somebody and he had like the blood

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and the and the ink was still on the on

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the needle, and he wiped it off in a paper

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napkin and threw it down and he picks it back

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up and it then the ink is in the shape

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01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,920
like this the face of Satan, the Saint Tanic skull,

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01:30:02,039 --> 01:30:04,079
and he keeps it on im. And it's this little

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01:30:04,119 --> 01:30:07,039
weird triggers that like as you're entertaining and you're looking

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01:30:07,079 --> 01:30:09,680
for the darkness, like that stuff reveals itself to you.

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01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:12,800
And there's so much more when it comes to that

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and just weird experiences, but it's usually negative. It's not fun,

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it's not beautiful. It is real. So get on that

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01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:24,439
higher path, that higher frequency the love and the light

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01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:29,520
helping people, and you find out that service to others

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01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:35,840
is indeed service to self. As you're helping others reaching

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01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,920
out to others, you are helping yourself. We always talk

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01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,760
about with energy healing and prayer and meditation and getting

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01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,479
in that flow and allowing that beautiful holy Spirit, God's

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01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,399
energy to come to you and through you. As you're

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01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:52,039
into healing whatever you're doing, it's healing you as it

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01:30:52,119 --> 01:30:55,680
passes through. So as you are healing others, you are indeed,

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01:30:56,239 --> 01:31:01,439
healing yourself. For everyone is a mirror in a reflection

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01:31:02,039 --> 01:31:04,760
of who you really are. Everyone is an extension of you.

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So with that in mind, make sure to bless somebody.

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Greet them with the no mistake, Let them know that

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the light within you acknowledges the light that is within them.

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Love you, guys. I'm gonna say peace and shallom. Shout

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01:31:16,319 --> 01:31:18,760
out to everybody in the chat. Shout out everybody hanging

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out with us here. I've been watching the chat here.

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Shout out to cal So you jumping in, Kyle, Melcass,

1717
01:31:23,159 --> 01:31:27,640
Shout out to you, Chauncey, Corey Mitchell, Ali, Stephanie, deb

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01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,279
Casey Clint like all of you, guys, I see you Gothic.

1719
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:33,920
Thank you guys for lett me know as well. At

1720
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,800
the beginning about the audio mess ups. You know, I'm

1721
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,840
trying to handle all this myself, and some little things

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01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,279
here and there kind of get off and that's what

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the chat's for.

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01:31:43,119 --> 01:31:43,279
Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: I pay attention to the chat, and Kyle says, I'm

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digging the new setup. This ain't the new setup. This

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01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,159
is just this is the old setup, just with no posters.

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For sure. I got rid of all my posters. But

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we're getting ready for a move and so there will

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01:31:58,319 --> 01:32:01,319
be a new setup very soon, very soon. It's going

1731
01:32:01,399 --> 01:32:03,760
to be different, and I'm super excited for the new

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01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:08,640
season and stepping into this. So yeah, send us good energy,

1733
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,319
send us love and light. We're getting ready for a

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01:32:10,359 --> 01:32:13,159
transition and move into a new studio and move into

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01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:15,840
a new home as well, so send us love and light.

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01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,319
We need it. It's a crazy process of buying a home,

1737
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:22,520
trust me, especially being independent and being an entrepreneur and

1738
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,920
having different forms of income, different streams of income and

1739
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,359
not receiving a paycheck from a job consistently, so that's

1740
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,520
kind of weird too, So send us love and light.

1741
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,680
That's why all the support helps. The Patreon, listening to

1742
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:39,239
the music, sharing these episodes, everything helps that you do,

1743
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,359
and I'm very grateful for it. If you'd like to support,

1744
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:46,520
check me out on Patreon, Patreon dot com. Backslash truth Seeker.

1745
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,399
I released two new songs this week. I'm working on

1746
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,039
two more right now, literally three more. For some reason,

1747
01:32:53,159 --> 01:32:57,960
like I haven't been inspired. Music has been something that's

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01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,199
been hard lately. But I've got this this burst of

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energy right now and creativity and trying something different and

1750
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,920
have some really cool songs that have been coming to me,

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and so they're released early on on Patreon, so you

1752
01:33:10,319 --> 01:33:14,920
get access to those again months before they're available to

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01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,960
any the general public. So people are just like begging

1754
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,560
for new new music. We need new Truth Secret Listen,

1755
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,920
go sign up. You can get it all. Sign up,

1756
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,840
become a patron, click on new music, click on download music,

1757
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,239
and you'll see them all listed there. There's literally seven

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new songs that are unreleased right now, and there's about

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to be a couple more up, probably within a week

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or so. I'm working on some cool stuff. I don't

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even want to talk about it. I want to show

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because I can show you better than I can tell you.

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But sign up you get access to all that stuff.

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Thursday Night, School of the Mystics a bunch of cool

1765
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:48,760
stuff with that, I'm gonna say, Piece and Shloan make

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sure y'all check out their website patheleventv dot com. Love

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01:33:53,039 --> 01:33:55,640
you guys, we'll do it again very soon. Piece, Piece

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so much, so much, so much. Well that does it

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for this episode. Folks.

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Speaker 1: To hear more episodes of The Truth SECA podcast, head

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