WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:05.559 It's the Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and carn 2 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:07.639 s e O and JP Sorrow. 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:13.199 He's a lapsed fan and all my years and wrestling, 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:21.480 I never seen anything. 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:23.039 And it's the laps fan name by the one in 6 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:23.480 the ring. 7 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.440 Forget about Slado. He the real king of swing. When 8 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:29.359 the bell goes in and the kick like me throwing 9 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:32.280 in the corner. But it's lash like stick. Even Jerry 10 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:35.079 King can sake off the crowd. Nodded in his head 11 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:37.560 like it. Steve low Brown, would you get low down? 12 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:39.079 Go even high up? 13 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:40.200 Flipp you on your head? 14 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:42.960 But you know cool driver, you speak more now and 15 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:45.920 dragon spits fire give you more shock than when head 16 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:48.640 treats higher drop a more truth than the con of 17 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.359 sniper unless you would a coconut. 18 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.039 Roddy Piper, Jack a JP. 19 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:55.479 He like j y d drop the cupcakes and gold 20 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:58.799 the brain Bob means the best podcast Frost start the 21 00:00:58.880 --> 00:00:59.520 close cloud. 22 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:01.600 If you are a classic a. 23 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:05.480 Pos it has to end. A life of Sid has 24 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:08.359 to end, and therefore the TLF tribute. 25 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:12.359 To Sid has to end. Boss. Yes, yes, it's fair enough, fair. 26 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:18.480 Enough TLFX, and it's fitting because as this you know prototypical, 27 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:24.560 quintessential tlf treatment of a subject that I think in 28 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:26.280 Sid is as TLFX as it gets. 29 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:28.280 Really, I mean, well, you know what, you know what 30 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:32.480 just something just hit me right now? What was our first. 31 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:37.840 Show SummerSlam ninety one when he made his debut, Yes, 32 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:41.400 when he first made his impression upon us as fans. 33 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:44.879 Right when he shows face out the curtain, you know, 34 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.079 situated as we were at the time as w W fans. Yep. 35 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:50.680 I mean it's the more I go through this, the 36 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:54.760 more I realize, like Sid's career touches the stuff that 37 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:57.599 we were we were steeped in before we ever hit 38 00:01:57.640 --> 00:01:58.079 record for. 39 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:00.120 The lapsed fan right exactly. 40 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:01.840 These are the places we could go to without even 41 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:03.480 having to do much in the way of research, to 42 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:06.840 be able to talk for hours and hours about true 43 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:10.159 and there was a lot was there more to Sid 44 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.719 And it made it that work, and it made it 45 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:15.840 that much more rewarding to learn all of that because 46 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:18.400 we started from the base you're talking about, yep. This 47 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:20.840 is somebody that we didn't have to force ourselves to 48 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:25.479 care about or discover. And the way people talked about 49 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:28.879 him after his passing and the unique qualities that he 50 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:31.759 brought to the business in terms of charisma, in terms 51 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:34.000 of being able to draw people, in in terms of 52 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.000 being able to stay paid and employed despite being by 53 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:38.840 all accounts, one of the biggest pains in the ass 54 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:41.639 to ever sign a wrestling contract. If he even did 55 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:45.120 sign a contract, which wasn't always the case, yet he stayed. 56 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:49.439 He stayed someone that people were interested in his next move, 57 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:52.439 even when that next move couldn't have been a step forward, because, 58 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:54.800 as we talked about last time in our penultimate episode, 59 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:58.039 the leg snap in two thousand and one completely transformed 60 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:00.919 to not only the fans SID to be, but who 61 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:03.680 Sid saw himself to be. Because if he has to 62 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:05.240 be on the shelf for all these months, in fact 63 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.199 years before he could even do something resembling a wrestling 64 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:10.280 match again, for someone who didn't even want to leave 65 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:12.840 the house unless he looked completely jacked like a fucking 66 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:16.759 Marvel superhero, it took a mental toll, if not just 67 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:17.479 a physical one. 68 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:18.520 Yeah, totally. 69 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:21.560 And he talked about all the legal ramifications and how 70 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:26.199 that all went sort of a round trip for Sid 71 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:28.520 as he tried to pick up the pieces after WCW 72 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:31.800 closed and he was mending his broken wheel. But now 73 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.120 on the final leg of our tribute to Sid, we're 74 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.159 going to take stock of what happened after he could 75 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:38.719 no longer go in the ring. For all intents and purposes, 76 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.439 it's not like he had zero matches after WCW SIN, 77 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:43.240 but it might as well have been. 78 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:46.560 I mean, because he did he did do some like 79 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:50.639 some quick things. Didn't didn't he beat like didn't he 80 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.560 beat that redhead goof? I have very good raw. 81 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:55.639 I wanted to leave that unset to see if you 82 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:57.960 would remember, because I wasn't sure how much of an 83 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.520 impact that actually made. But yes, when the mine wants 84 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:04.080 to say we never saw Sid again after you know 85 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.840 ninety seven, you have to check yourself because that's not true. 86 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:10.400 As far as WWWWTV, yeah, I do remember him coming 87 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:12.120 on a couple of times, and I remember him beating 88 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:14.560 what's his name, what's the redheads name? Heth Slater, the 89 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:19.199 one man later, the one the one man can right, 90 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:22.639 the one man shit canned as it were. But yeah, 91 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:24.480 he was going through that whole thing where he was 92 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:26.800 coming out and just getting like bulldozed by legends. It 93 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.079 was part of a campaign to build the one thousandth 94 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:32.959 episode of raw in twenty twelve, right right, Vader had 95 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:36.519 come back for one shot, Piper had come back, and 96 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.519 they had Michael Cole as a heel commentator back then 97 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:40.519 in twenty twelve, so he could like call the guys 98 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.680 de crepit and they could, you know, sort of play 99 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:45.639 dumb and pretend that they weren't making fun of people 100 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:47.759 that they were bringing back, when of course they were. 101 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:49.160 They were just doing it through a. 102 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:51.560 Heel announcer voice, so they felt like it wasn't justifying. 103 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:54.600 So yes, Sid didn't get the call until they had 104 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:57.120 a framework where they were essentially mocking the people that 105 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:58.040 they were bringing back. 106 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:00.360 Oh God, and for. 107 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:03.360 Sid, who saw himself out foxing Vince at every turn 108 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:05.639 in his career, it certainly was a hilarious finish there 109 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:08.720 in twenty twelve. But yes, we will get there. Sid 110 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:10.639 does come out once again in a WW ring with 111 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.839 jeans On, and then we truly don't see him again. 112 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.040 Did not make any like kind of one off appearances, 113 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:19.720 not with that he wrestled, but he just kind of 114 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.360 showed up and looked like a goof on WWE. 115 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.079 I don't think so, no, not that I can recall. 116 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:27.759 I think he made a single appearance other than the 117 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:31.879 one you're referencing, and we'll chart what he was doing 118 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:36.920 in the business and in his life here as we serenade. 119 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:38.160 Oh, we know what he was doing. He was taking 120 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:40.519 care of Vienna's and fucking taking care of the. 121 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:44.639 Taking care of that was quite later, but yes, he 122 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:47.120 did get around to that eventually. It does become a 123 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:50.000 story of Vienna's and and. 124 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:52.680 We're excited to get there. It's like it's like The 125 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:54.720 Third Man, the movie The Third Man. I wanted to 126 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:56.000 tell you about old Vienna. 127 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:00.879 Right, But we're obliged to say if sid is as 128 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:03.240 TLFX as it gets, and if twenty twenty four has 129 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:06.519 been just a true monument to ten years of the 130 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:09.600 Lapsed Fan, if you were to pick a year where 131 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:13.759 this podcast gets the recognition it deserves, you would think 132 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:15.879 it would be on our tenth year anniversary, Right. 133 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:19.120 Yeah, I would say so. It would make sense to me. 134 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.000 Vince has taught us the importance of ten year anniversaries 135 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:23.319 with WrestleManias and stuff. 136 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:25.519 Russell Mania's so. 137 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:29.439 Mammy is a big time reset period. So we're obliged 138 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:31.319 to mention right off the top. If you haven't seen 139 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:33.759 the news as we record this, it should have been 140 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.319 abundantly clear in our social media and other social media 141 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:40.319 channels that the folks at the Sports Podcast Group have 142 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:45.000 seen fit to nominate this very podcast for Wrestling Podcast 143 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.000 of the Year for two twenty four. 144 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:47.639 Now we're up. 145 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:52.000 Against diff competition and it is a process through which brother. 146 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:56.839 What ogen Ogen's podcast that'd be that I would feel threatened. 147 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:58.480 There, not Hogan's but other luminaries. 148 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:00.199 Yes, there's. 149 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.800 There's no need to delineate them. But do know that 150 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:08.160 this comes down to fan voting. This comes down to 151 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:10.879 this is a volume game, and we've always been quality 152 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:13.319 over quantity around here. It's why we are who we are. 153 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:16.120 If we chased quantity from the beginning in terms of 154 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:19.360 number of listeners, my god, would this show sucked, just 155 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:21.920 like ninety eight percent of wrestling podcasts that have ever 156 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:25.360 been created. But we found a niche of people who 157 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.560 were willing to put cheddar on the table to support 158 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:32.839 hardcore podcasting on this sport shelf life podcasting, and we've 159 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:36.319 perfected it and we've introduced it as basically the only 160 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:39.279 reason to do a wrestling podcast beyond you know, covering 161 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.759 the vicissitudes of what happened this week. You know, with 162 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:44.560 all due respect to the podcast to focus on the 163 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:48.079 current product, they will never be listened back to in 164 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:51.959 ten years, right, and they're not designed to. But we're 165 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:55.399 designed to go up on the fucking Library of Congress 166 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:58.600 in a wrestling context. And so that podcast absolutely, of course, 167 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.879 at least once, deserves to be called the wrestling podcast 168 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:02.319 of the year. 169 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:03.120 Agreed. 170 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:06.240 I think you know hard pressed would you be hard pressed? 171 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.279 Would you be to find someone you really respect would 172 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:12.480 disagree with that? And so we on the doorstep of 173 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.519 this final leg of one of the most quintessential things 174 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:17.879 we've done, one of the most quintessential hashtag lapsed things 175 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:21.639 we've done, this sprawling tribute to sid that has just 176 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:26.839 grown different heads and arms and legs, well maybe not legs, 177 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.360 as we've gone. Now more than ever, on the tenth anniversary, 178 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:35.480 this is the time to exercise yourself, to exercise your 179 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:37.960 friends and family, to exercise anyone you've ever introduced the 180 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:40.960 podcast to, anyone who's aware, even if they don't listen 181 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:42.840 to us or religiously of the impact, that we have 182 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:46.480 paid unpaid anyone in the sound of our voice and 183 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:49.159 two three four six degrees beyond. You must go to 184 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:52.559 the Sports Podcastgroup dot com website that is Sports Podcastgroup 185 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.080 dot com and what they do is the Sports Podcast Awards. 186 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.960 It's across several different categories. All the major sports are represented. 187 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:02.840 Were up for Best Wrestling. It's very obvious who should win. 188 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.639 And of course it's not something that we ever spend 189 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:10.559 a lot of time with. You know, our troops rally themselves. 190 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:13.120 We don't have to rally them. Yeah, but this might 191 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:15.799 be the exception because there's nothing more TLFX I can 192 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.120 think of. And then we'll walk away, you know, we'll 193 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.639 be happy. It's like, all right, if we want to 194 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:23.759 lean in, we can demonstrate the dominance that we all 195 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:27.799 know vibrates beneath the surface of what we do every 196 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:30.039 time we pick up the microphone. And if there's a 197 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:32.399 third party acknowledgment opportunity for that, go ahead. 198 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:36.679 Hey, I heard what you said there, third party acknowledgment. 199 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:38.960 That's what I've been striving for my whole life. Jesse. 200 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:40.080 I think what I'm trying to say is, if we 201 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.679 don't win Best Wrestling Podcasts in the Sports Podcast Award, 202 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:44.440 it's because they wouldn't let us in the debates. 203 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:48.559 Well, that's the idea, because I know you'd win, they 204 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.919 know we'd win. We know we'd win. You know we'd win. 205 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.200 So let's just do it. Let's do it. 206 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:58.840 Let's make each other proud as much as Maker co 207 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.440 chairman proud and vot the Lapsed Fan the Best Wrestling 208 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:04.759 Podcast of the Year and the Sports Podcast Group Sports 209 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:07.639 Podcast Awards for the Year twenty twenty four. I can't 210 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:11.240 think of a better year to do it. Agreed, Agreed, 211 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:16.480 fucking Let's go home. Let's show them the power of 212 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.080 what we're talking about, and let's knock on doors. Let's 213 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:23.679 use some shoe leather if you will. Let's campaign, because 214 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:26.799 remember this was an election year, and what a campaign 215 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:29.360 it was. The TLFX games that came down to crown 216 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:32.639 and Lapsed Vince the greatest character in Lapsed Fan history. 217 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:36.600 There's been a lot of a lot of campaign energy 218 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:38.519 around the podcast this year. 219 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:40.279 Of all years, I would say, I would say that 220 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:41.279 it's very true done. 221 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:45.039 A lot of narrowing down, a lot of crystallizing of 222 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.039 what it is we're about. A lot of message refinement 223 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:50.759 has gone on this year through things like the TLFX 224 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:53.519 testimonials that we've been proud to share, as listeners from 225 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:56.000 across the Solar System have put down in their own words, 226 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:57.919 why this means so much the live show we did 227 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:00.879 in Philadelphia this year which laid bare the in the 228 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.159 city of brotherly love and that founding American city, how 229 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:08.519 foundational our ethos is to why even bother doing a 230 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:11.840 wrestling podcast? So you know what to do? Do it 231 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.480 Sports Podcast Awards, So the twenty twenty five edition, because 232 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:17.759 you're going to be able to vote all the way 233 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:20.480 through into the new year and into and through January. 234 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.840 But make it happen. It's the way it simply has 235 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:28.399 to be. They've they've they've realized that we belong in 236 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:32.440 this category. Yep, and show them, show them. Not only 237 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:34.000 are they right that they have no clue what they've 238 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:35.679 what they have done by. 239 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:37.960 Oh, that's just say they have no fucking idea. 240 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:43.039 Smiling upon the Solar system, prepare for beams of effervescent light. 241 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.879 In terms of me most importantly, the what they haven't 242 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:49.480 realized what they've done is that they have they have 243 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:59.440 opened the door, Yes to unrefined, pure, uncut, uncensored pain. 244 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:03.399 Pain that acknowledgment that pain is the only point. Yes, 245 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:05.080 that until you get to the point of pain, you're 246 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:08.559 kidding yourself and everybody else is kidding themselves. 247 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:18.120 Pain makes you no pleasure, right, pain is pleasure. You're 248 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:20.759 gonna say pain helps you process pleasure. No, you went 249 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:21.240 right to it. 250 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:29.000 That wasn't even a three headed monster there. You know, 251 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:31.679 once you go yeah, you guys are the best podcast, 252 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.480 then it's like, it's it's really hard to take it back. 253 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:36.240 We've seen people do that over the years. You know, 254 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:39.519 they fall into our favor and then for whatever reason, 255 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:42.039 they just decide it's cooler to like not like us, 256 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:46.200 and it's hard for them because they know that at 257 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:47.879 one point in time they kissed the ring. 258 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:50.879 Listen, you know what I think of it as this 259 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:56.320 is its adolescence, right. You know, you don't when you're 260 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:01.080 an adolescent, when you're in that in that age of 261 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:07.320 between ten and eighteen, you don't want to admit that 262 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:12.120 mommy and daddy are right, and you will. 263 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:15.799 Go to absurd lengths to try to demonstrate that they're wrong, 264 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:19.159 absurd lengths, self destructive lengths even in some cases. 265 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:21.039 But you always come home. 266 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:23.559 The door is always willing to swing open when you 267 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:27.519 come around, and nothing needs to be said, yep, because 268 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:31.159 we love you unconditionally. Right, That's right, that's right, and 269 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:35.039 so return the Favor Sports Podcast Awards TLFX. Let's really 270 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:39.000 bring this motherfucker home, and let's bring home our tribute 271 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:39.279 to Sid. 272 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:42.080 What do you say, I think it's I think it's 273 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:42.840 about ten. 274 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:49.919 Times absolutely the Unapologetic Sin Tribute, as we heard last time, 275 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.600 basically heard nothing from him for several years in terms 276 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:57.679 of like high profile wrestling appearances, especially through two thousand 277 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.480 and one. Like he said, he changed his phone number. 278 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:01.039 He didn't want to talk to anybody in the business 279 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:03.120 because anytime you pick up the phone, all they'd want 280 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.159 to talk about is how it happened, whose fault it was, 281 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:08.360 and get the story over and over again. And for 282 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:10.960 someone who takes his physical well being as seriously as 283 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:12.480 Sid did his whole life, that's not the kind of 284 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:15.440 conversation he's interested in having. Eighteen thousand times, so he 285 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:17.159 falls off the map. People don't even necessarily know what's 286 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.679 up with him. He does make a brief appearance, as 287 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.000 we mentioned last week, for the World Wrestling All Stars group. 288 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:26.320 This is a group run by an Australian named Andrew mcmannus, 289 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:28.000 who sort of tried to pick up the pieces of 290 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.039 the WCW talent that weren't. 291 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:33.480 I remember that happening when we were in college, right, 292 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:34.799 that's right. It would have been a two thousand and 293 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:38.480 two Okay. They brought in Randy Savage and I think 294 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:42.000 Jeff Jarrett as well, right just before like it was 295 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:44.320 going to become clear that TNA was going to be 296 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.200 the best shot at recreating WCW. 297 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:48.200 They sort of were. They had a pay per view 298 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:50.240 that was available in the United States that they did. 299 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.480 Australia was a very strong live event market for WCW. 300 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:55.960 Even in the absolute dying death days of the promotion, 301 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.879 they were still able to draw pretty impressive houses over there, 302 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:00.600 and so it was thought that this would be you know, 303 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:04.360 the subject of, or rather the center of, something that 304 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:08.639 might be plausible, that might be workable from a business standpoint, 305 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:10.799 if the fans over there were willing to support something 306 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:13.840 other than WWF, which it appeared they were. Go back 307 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.000 to the tnh journey right before he goes into TNA, 308 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:18.320 he does the Hogan Tour Australia and works with the 309 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:21.399 Rick Flair, right, because that was just the wrap on 310 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:24.159 that market. As you could make money there still with 311 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:27.679 the cast of characters that WCW had at the very end, 312 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:32.679 and so at one point they go through some commissioners, 313 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:35.759 Brett Hart and then Sid. Sid was a commissioner for 314 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.240 the WWA, but he didn't do anything that resonated. He 315 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.559 didn't do anything that was considered like a highlight or 316 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:43.639 a promo. It's not the UWF match he had with 317 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.159 us Steve Williams. Yeah he did it, but it's not 318 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.200 like he said or did anything that was money about 319 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:51.080 it that would live on on YouTube necessarily or anything 320 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:54.759 like that. So I really don't consider it a return 321 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:56.840 though it was the first time he popped his head 322 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:59.159 up after snapping his leg at Sin about a full 323 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:01.440 year and a half after happened, but then he just 324 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:05.039 disappeared really all over again after that brief run as commissioner. 325 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:08.360 He did say that TNA reached out to him. Well, 326 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:10.159 actually he didn't say they reached out to him. He 327 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:12.080 said when Jeff Charett first started TNA, he said this 328 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:15.679 in a shoot interview with our video. They didn't have 329 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:17.480 like a great roster of people to put up that 330 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:21.480 they were, you know, presenting to potential sponsors. Potential broadcast partners, 331 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:23.120 whatever the case may be. They have a lot of 332 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:26.440 guys locked up, and he said that Jeff Jarrett called 333 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:28.360 him and asked him. The way Sid put it is, 334 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:32.159 he gave TNA a letter of recommendation. Only Sid would 335 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:35.679 call it a letter of recommendation, Oh my god, basically saying, yeah, 336 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:37.159 you can say I'm working for the company, you can 337 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:39.600 associate my name with this as you're trying to get 338 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:43.159 something going business wise. But at the time, he's on 339 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:47.000 a walker, and according to Sid, they're shopping his name 340 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:51.279 around as one of the wrestling luminaries that could be yours. 341 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.559 If you support this, I'm sure Jeff Jarrett would absolutely 342 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.000 disagree with that. SID has talked big shit about Jeff 343 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:59.240 Yard as well. But you know, they used Hogan's name 344 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:01.159 as if they were going to do a Hogan Jarrett 345 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:03.000 match in two thousand and three and it never happened. 346 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.480 So I think it's completely against type for them as 347 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.079 they struggle to get traction with pay per view providers 348 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:10.079 and things, to just throw any name against the wall, 349 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:12.640 even if it was a soft commitment from someone who 350 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.440 couldn't even walk. 351 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:21.160 It's just a fucking I don't know it just that 352 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:25.880 whole thing. I don't know, it's it's it's funny. I 353 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.759 guess what I I guess. What's funny to me is 354 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:36.599 how even how how desperate wrestling promoters are when it 355 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:42.839 comes to name talent. Yeah, who may or may not 356 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:47.160 have ever drawn actual money, you know, but they have 357 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.319 a name, and so even if they're well over the 358 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:55.279 hill in terms of what they can actually offer, it's 359 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:59.160 it's so it's fascinating to me how how organizations are 360 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:03.640 so desperate bring in and and in a way they don't. 361 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.279 I mean maybe it's different now, I suppose with the 362 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:11.279 aw and whatnot, but they don't necessarily build new talent up. 363 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:14.640 It's always let's rely on the old fucking guys. Who 364 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:19.480 can you know, who have been quote unquote successful. Yeah. 365 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:21.440 I think when you're triple funding together, it helps to 366 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:24.119 put people in front of financiers. 367 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:26.119 Who have Yeah. Yeah, I suppose that heard of it. Yeah, 368 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:27.799 you know what, I'll admit, I don't think of it 369 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:30.279 in terms of like in terms of like, you know, 370 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:32.480 trying to get people to I think of it as, oh, 371 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:35.920 I've already got money. But when you're trying to get money, 372 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:38.160 you need that kind of shit, and that's very true. 373 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:40.160 Well, what's interesting is, you know, Tony Kanad money and 374 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.640 he still goes for every WW guy I can get 375 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:44.519 his hands on and woman. You know, so it's sort 376 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:45.160 of like it's. 377 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:47.359 Like a yeah, but how many of them were actual draws? 378 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:47.519 Oh? 379 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:49.359 I know? Yeah, fucking gets. 380 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:51.039 It's like a disease with no qre kind of thing 381 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:52.759 because if anyone would have done, it would have been him. 382 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:55.920 And now he's replete with guys that you still think 383 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.279 primarily WW when you look at them, despite his attempts 384 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:03.720 to kind of them. But yeah, so yeah, point taken. 385 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:06.160 But if you try to get something off the ground 386 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:07.880 and approach with a list of guys that are going 387 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:11.119 to be huge stars in ten years but nobody's heard of, ah, 388 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:13.039 I'll take a pass of that. That doesn't seem like 389 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.079 the best place to invest my money. Jeff, thank you, though, 390 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:16.480 who's aj styles? 391 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:16.720 You know? 392 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:18.720 So you did so? 393 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.640 I guess that was part of that's the extent of 394 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:26.400 Sid's TNA involvement. I mean, he had said that all 395 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:28.200 the things I did to help those guys, they called 396 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:29.599 and asked me to come in and do some things. 397 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:31.519 But I wasn't honest with them, he said. One time 398 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:33.519 in a shoot interview, he said he told him I 399 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:35.119 don't want to work for those guys unless I know 400 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:38.160 I'm not going to work for Vince because I wouldn't 401 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:43.240 do something small. This poor guy on a walker still 402 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:47.440 thinks that Vince gives a shit about him. He still 403 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:51.640 thinks that in the end, Vince is going to be 404 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:54.000 the one that needs him more than he needs Vince. 405 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:57.400 Well, I'm want to tell you something. So so Vincent 406 00:19:57.519 --> 00:19:59.759 May has said one hundred and fifty cans of Vienna 407 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:03.359 is the cathedral? Correct? And I sent him an autograph picture. 408 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:07.519 Yeah, you didn't send him an autographed contract, though, did you? 409 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:10.319 Because because one wasn't one was never offered. 410 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:11.720 I said he was going to put my picture on 411 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:16.359 a contract, and then why I didn't have to sign it? 412 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:19.880 Bucker still get paid. Have you seen this man kind 413 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.240 of picture? Have you seen? Let me have you have 414 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:24.880 we can we put this up on the Listen. I 415 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:27.960 want to put this picture, this signed autographed picture of 416 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:32.000 Sid down at the front desk of Titan Towers. Do 417 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:37.160 not allow this man in all right, do not allow 418 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:44.559 Sid in the building. If you see him, shoot him. 419 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:46.319 It's like when it came over the loudspeaker when he 420 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:48.359 fired Warrior. Remember Tom Fleming, the w. 421 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:50.720 W F artist. Oh my god, Yeah, the interview with 422 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:51.200 us about it. 423 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:52.960 It's like all of a sudden, he's working on stuff 424 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.440 for a Warrior and then Vince's they no voice comes 425 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.759 over the headquarter wide intercom. Weird, no anger doing business 426 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:05.160 with Ultimate Warrior. Please see sect anything in motion regarding. 427 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:12.720 U UH employees of Titan Sports Incorporated, Corporate, I would 428 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:21.640 like corporate. There's an echo employees of Titan Sports Incorporated. 429 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:28.559 This is Vincent Kennedy McMahon, the owner, CEO, head han 430 00:21:28.599 --> 00:21:33.119 show of sorts of the of the organization. I I'm 431 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.079 I'm I'm for those of her here who don't know 432 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:47.759 who Vince is. I've been the I've been involved in 433 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:52.920 this business since the nineteen seventy. We are a multi 434 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:59.599 uh functional conglomerate of media enterprise, and I just wanted 435 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:01.839 to let every or know that we are currently no 436 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:06.920 longer using the services and talents of the Ultimate Warrior. 437 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:12.119 Thank you have a good holiday. Of course, of course 438 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:17.559 it's the last message before a holiday break. Actually it 439 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:20.160 would have been right because we've been around Thanksgiving. It's true. 440 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:21.920 It's true. Didn't even think of that. That was just 441 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:24.079 a whim but we. 442 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:25.640 Are in the holiday season. I do kind of adore 443 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:28.640 the idea of like full time WWF staff who like 444 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:31.400 don't care about wrestling, but they have skills WWF us 445 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:34.279 and they live practice approximate to Standford, Connecticut working there. 446 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:37.599 I mean, it's it's like, you know, it's funny. It 447 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:40.960 reminds me of of all the people who you know, 448 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:43.119 when I was at when I when I was in 449 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:45.319 LA and I worked at Sony or not at Sony, 450 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:48.480 but when I was working on the Sony lot, talking like, 451 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:54.759 there are all these people who are just working regular jobs, 452 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:57.039 but they just happen to be at a movie studio, right, 453 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:00.359 you know, you need to have that those those jobs 454 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:04.440 like accountants and and whatever who really have no impact 455 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.039 on the actual and have no interest maybe to do 456 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:10.480 but you know, not necessarily any interest in the actual 457 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.880 runnings of the studio. But they just happened their job 458 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:17.039 just happens to be at the studio. 459 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.400 I mean, those people have always been the subject of 460 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:22.160 endless fascination to me, and just the idea that they 461 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.599 got benefits, they got Christmas vacations, you know, right, And 462 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:27.720 the wrestlers who make the whole thing go round couldn't 463 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:31.240 even dream of having the same track link from an 464 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:34.759 employment perspective as these people who hated wrestling or not hated, 465 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.960 who are indifferent to the actual product that you know, 466 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:39.640 that that made the machine run. 467 00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:42.119 Just fascinating. That to me, that is the bigger thing 468 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:46.119 because in my mind because if you if you hate wrestling, 469 00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:48.720 I can see you kind of working at a wrestling company. 470 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:50.880 If you love wrestling, I can see you working at 471 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:54.039 a wrestling company. If you're indifferent, those are the people 472 00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:56.359 that I'm that are truly fascinating, because how the fuck 473 00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:57.319 did you get this job? 474 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:00.440 They answer a one ad for graphic designer and it 475 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:02.880 happens to be you know, near fucking Long Island or 476 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:03.559 wherever they grew up. 477 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:06.000 You know, they need a janitor, they need whatever, you know, 478 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:10.119 all those all those businesses need those things every day 479 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:13.640 everyday jobs. Let's not kid ourselves a baby job. We're 480 00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:14.839 talking about every day job. 481 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:19.720 I don't that's a one ad. He's not answering, right, 482 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:25.960 but my jobing brother, it's not kid ourselves. Job board, 483 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.240 what do you mean? What what do you set that 484 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:30.240 up at the tapings? 485 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:30.559 Dude? 486 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:31.960 Like, what do you what do you mean like someone's 487 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.359 gonna like like a wooden board people laid out on 488 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:36.079 or two? That are we talking about? It's a job board? 489 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.480 What is that where you put the names up of 490 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.279 people doing a job? Is ul Hogan's name on there? 491 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:43.880 I mean, I think who's put who's putting the names 492 00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:44.559 up on the job. 493 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:46.359 Here's my thing, brother, I understand you're saying I'm none 494 00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:48.680 on the job board, But the way my mind works 495 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:50.759 is why didn't I know of the existence of such 496 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:52.519 a thing as a job board in the first place. 497 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:53.839 If it wasn't a way to do an end run 498 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:58.079 around Ulshogan right ill would know what that I would 499 00:24:58.119 --> 00:24:58.839 know what it was. 500 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:00.440 The thing is, too, I want to know exactly why 501 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:02.160 people are doing this behind my back exactly. 502 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.559 That's I don't really care what the job board is. 503 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:09.400 I care why I'm not told about it exactly, you know. 504 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:11.599 So I want to know why I'm not told about 505 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:13.599 these things. I want to why people are trying to 506 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:20.400 beat Hulk Hogan because he okay, he goes like, I 507 00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:22.319 don't care if I'm jobbing or not. I just care 508 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:25.039 about the secret to the secretiveness of it. And then 509 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:26.519 he comes right back around and says, I want to 510 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:28.880 know if people want to beat Hulkogan. It's like, no, 511 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:32.440 you just said, you just said, you acknowledge that that 512 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:34.720 doesn't matter and that's not a reality, and he still 513 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:39.599 brings it up. So let's not kid ourselves. Another part 514 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:40.920 of the reason we didn't hear much from Sid for 515 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:42.799 a couple of years after dying, said be closed. The 516 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:45.400 check was still coming in the mail, you know what 517 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:49.519 I mean, still getting paid. As we discussed in the 518 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.079 episodes about you know, the lawsuits you filed around the injury, 519 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:54.839 he had quite a bit of time, including that worker's 520 00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:58.759 compensation payment for the injury and you know pay per 521 00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:01.720 view money that checks that he cashed for pay per 522 00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:05.119 views that he was owed but never happened, and he 523 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:07.200 didn't have to work, but his contract called for a 524 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:09.839 minimum Uh. So you know, that's also part of the 525 00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:12.119 reason that a lot of these guys uh disappeared for 526 00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:12.839 a couple of years. 527 00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:13.480 Uh. 528 00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:15.680 Nash you know famously said like, you know, if you're 529 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:17.599 getting paid what you're getting paid right now to sit 530 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:19.440 at home and watching Netflix, would you take it? 531 00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:20.680 Fuck? 532 00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:20.799 It. 533 00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.839 Yeah, right, what do you want? Like, you know, you 534 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:27.160 just gotta fucking you know I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm 535 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.359 I'm getting paid to sit at home. Fucking I work 536 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:32.640 on a dollar to bump ratio and if I can 537 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:34.880 get paid a lot of dollars for zero buck, fucking 538 00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.960 you know, hit some sativa and drink some fucking veno. 539 00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:41.039 Yeah, of course, he says, watch Netflix, by the way, 540 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:42.000 you know what kind of films is? 541 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:48.160 You know, I fucking watched those those fucking indie college channels. Yeah, 542 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.279 watching some fucking you know, up and coming you know, 543 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:53.599 film tours. 544 00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:00.880 Fuck, so oh three passes, you know, four. He suddenly 545 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.680 pomps up again in Montreal, of all places, where there's 546 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:07.559 some shows going on in a promotional banner called the IWS. 547 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.079 And involved in the IWS is Pierre Carl Willette from 548 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:14.119 lochae Becker's PCO, as he's known now. And come to 549 00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:17.480 find out, PCO was one of Sid's absolute best friends 550 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:18.079 in the business. 551 00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:19.119 Good out of here. 552 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:21.880 Yeah, And I don't think people necessarily knew this until 553 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.519 this run started to happen. And you know, the shoot 554 00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:27.319 interview business was much more replete. There was channels everywhere, 555 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:31.599 and people would interview PCO, especially Devin Nicholson up who 556 00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:35.680 runs as Hannibal runs Great White North Wrestling, and by 557 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.440 virtue of running that promotion, was able to bring in 558 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:40.759 a lot of guys with you know, old stardom from 559 00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:43.319 WWF past and get a whole new round of shoot 560 00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:45.079 interviews done as part of the deal. A lot of 561 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.279 the stuff we've talked about and excerpted over the course 562 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.319 of the tribute to SID has come from SID getting 563 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.039 booked by Great White North and agreeing to do shoot 564 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:52.839 interviews as part. 565 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:53.160 Of the deal. 566 00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:57.599 PCO has also done shoot interviews with Hannibal and has 567 00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:01.119 been asked about SID in particular. PCO, of course, is 568 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:04.160 a name that carries some weight in the Montreal wrestling scene, 569 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.920 and he talked to Hannibal about his history with SID. 570 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.359 It all became pretty clear here as SID suddenly starts 571 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:13.759 re emerging. For example, on June twelf, two thousand and four, 572 00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:17.599 SID had teamed with PCO to defeat the team of 573 00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:22.240 Big Larry and Dolla Bill a main event anywhere in 574 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:24.599 the country, No, sorry, what a main event anywhere in 575 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:26.720 the country, and by the country, I mean Montserrat but 576 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.640 a PCO told Hannibal, I consider Sid to be my 577 00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:33.519 best friend ever in the business. We had so much 578 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:39.000 fun together. I could ask him probably anything. He was 579 00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:42.000 close to my family, to pco's parents. As a matter, 580 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.119 you can always ask him anything. The problem is is 581 00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.400 he's going to tell you the truth about it. Yeah, 582 00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:49.039 be careful what you asked Sid would be my suggestion. Yeah, 583 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:51.920 he was almost part of a pco's family, as he 584 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:54.160 tells it. And when he went to work for the 585 00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:58.759 Power Pro Wrestling Company, which was the Memphis Developmental territory 586 00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.440 that we talked about, were Sid was in that PBO 587 00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:06.359 stable in between runs. PCO actually stayed at Sid's house 588 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.240 when he was working down in that territory. So shit 589 00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.880 and getting the Booker t and Stevie Ray treatment there 590 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:13.440 at Chateau Ud. 591 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.480 Okay, we all want to go because. 592 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:20.160 At first PCO says he rented a condo down there, 593 00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:21.559 and eventually he Sid just said, you know what, coming 594 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.160 to my house, lived with the family, and he was 595 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.480 there and remembers his wife being generous. And he also remembers, interestingly, 596 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:29.519 which I can't imagine Sid having a maid, which is 597 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:30.319 just too much to think. 598 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.119 Wow, helping out with the kids and everything. He didn't 599 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:34.720 have fucking just Frank doing all that shit. 600 00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.400 I think it made was helping take care of Frank 601 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.200 was twenty years old, and what would they do. They 602 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:43.119 would go to the gyms every morning. You know, Sid 603 00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:46.079 needs a workout partner, especially getting back on his feet, 604 00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.279 such as he was working out doing the twice a days. 605 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:50.920 Right back at it is Sid. And here's a little 606 00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:53.920 bit of a direct color from the aforementioned Hannibal shoot 607 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.079 interview PCO reflecting on his friend Sid. 608 00:29:57.200 --> 00:29:59.599 I really never changed much. You know, he kept that 609 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:04.640 same house. It was not a big big spender. Like 610 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.359 you know, he works on his h He has a 611 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:13.240 special car that it it's not like the car. It's like, yeah, 612 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:16.720 sort of a jeep. Note puts that real strong. 613 00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:18.359 Engine and it tires. 614 00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:23.799 But his best friend is mechanical, so it doesn't cost 615 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.720 him that much the parts. You know, it's like their 616 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.519 babies together, those guys. You know, they just work on 617 00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:32.240 the jeep all the time, and it can make the 618 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:33.319 mud goes up. 619 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:34.279 Fifty feet in the air. 620 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:35.839 You know, it's really really strong. 621 00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:39.480 It's a nice jeep. It's it's very very odd. But 622 00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:40.079 other than that. 623 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.440 It's it's not a big spender. 624 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.440 Okay, Sid just working on the jeep. And listen, I 625 00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:50.279 know for damn we know for sure that Sid is 626 00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:51.119 not a big spender. 627 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.480 I can picture working on the jeep. I can picture 628 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:58.240 him working on the jeep, like but still wearing like 629 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.000 a chaps button up with the top button buttoned, with 630 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:08.680 short sleeves. He's somehow in like a checkered like dress shirt. 631 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:11.680 While he does. Yeah, oh for sure, listen, he's he 632 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:16.599 he is always wearing some kind of like, you know, 633 00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:20.200 some kind of button down dress shirt, like it's either 634 00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.400 plaid or it's you know, you know, and it's and 635 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.440 he's tucked into jeans. And he's always wearing a hat, 636 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:28.799 a baseball hat, like all right, doesn't matter where what 637 00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.039 he's doing, like if he's not in the ring, that's 638 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:31.720 what he's wearing. 639 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:48.720 A lap fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows 640 00:31:48.759 --> 00:32:06.799 the boys need their candy. It's the Lampsed Fan. He's 641 00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:11.920 a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno JP Soro. 642 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.599 But again, that's that's what everyone says is he lived 643 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:18.799 incredibly modestly, essentially stuck to the same neighborhood that is 644 00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:22.440 his his ancestors were from, and that he returned to, uh, 645 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:26.559 you know, an agro lifestyle, a farming lifestyle, and never, 646 00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.759 despite the money made in the business, ye never bought 647 00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.640 a big ostentatious house or a big ostentatious car, or 648 00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:37.640 really did anything that indicated that he was interested in 649 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.359 the trappings of you know, making millions in the wrestling business. 650 00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:44.240 And what does that do? That gives you freedom, That 651 00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.680 gives you freedom to just fucking disappear. 652 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.599 Well it also, I mean there's that, and it also 653 00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:51.880 gives you the freedom to walk away. 654 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:53.880 That's right, It's what I'm by disap here, right, you 655 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.559 could just fuck it, I'm done for now. 656 00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:59.680 You don't you know that? That's always the you know, 657 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.799 we hear about that all the time about wrestlers who 658 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:04.839 just can't fucking walk away. It's because they don't have 659 00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:06.839 any money. But if you do it, if you play 660 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:11.240 it smart and you and you live modestly, or if 661 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.240 you live like see him punk, you know, then you 662 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:18.039 can then you can not work. You know, you've saved 663 00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.400 up enough money and then your money's making money. Yep. 664 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.920 And you didn't allow the wrestling business to create your 665 00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.680 idea of yourself and thus put you in huge debt 666 00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:29.559 with a huge house, right, and all these other toys 667 00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.119 and assets, because you let the wrestling business tell you like, Okay, 668 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.359 because I'm making this money now, I'm going to define 669 00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.519 who I am by the things I buy. Whereas a 670 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:41.400 guy like Sid knows who he is already, yes, and 671 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.480 he's just he's always ready to go back there if 672 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.079 need be, and the money is just helping him do 673 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:49.279 it in kind of a more deliberated fashion. There's definitely 674 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.359 wisdom there. As much of a pain in the ass 675 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.039 as he was, and as much as a lot of 676 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.880 this wasn't by design, and just because he was you know, 677 00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:58.039 too cute by a mile and dealing with promoters and 678 00:33:58.039 --> 00:33:59.720 thinking he was getting one over on them, and they 679 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.799 were just kind of laughing at him and waiting for 680 00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:05.000 the chance to cut bait and rewarding him with you know, 681 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.280 two month title reigns, right, because that was his reputation. 682 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:11.880 He did have that ace in the hole where it 683 00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.480 was like, I did not build up my sense of 684 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.599 myself with the money I made in the wrestling business, 685 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:20.280 and so I'm not in a position to have to 686 00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.960 support that lifestyle and therefore be completely vulnerable to promoters. 687 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:28.000 So that I can continue furthering that lifestyle. I can 688 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.000 afford just not work for years and still be okay, 689 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.480 and you know, have a ton of fun in court, right, 690 00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.679 suing motherfuckers and trying sure, you know, having enough money 691 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:37.559 to have the lawyers, that's one thing. It's like you 692 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.320 live that way. It's like, where's all the proof of it? 693 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:42.119 He lives so humbly. He's like, no, you know where 694 00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.559 it goes. It goes with the lawyers that are going 695 00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.800 to grab two or three more paydays. Then the next 696 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.679 guy can afford to fight for exactly because he'll just 697 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.039 sue you. And he loves to sue people. So he's 698 00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.639 a tigious guy. He loves to blow cush too, you know, 699 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.880 and that's not cheap. Yes, this guy goes high as 700 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.360 a motherfucker his whole life. Right, We're talking about night 701 00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:05.599 stick sized Marley spliffs. We're talking about this guy's blowing 702 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.840 fucking blunts, the size of the inflatable baseball bats you 703 00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:11.159 see at kid's birthday parties. 704 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:14.440 Okay, can you imagine? Can you imagine too? Like you know, Frank, 705 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.119 Frank snuck out at night. He's coming home, really really late, 706 00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.360 absolutely red eyed, yep. And then but then, but then 707 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:25.079 you get Sid at home waiting. He knows, he knows 708 00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.480 that that Frank's gonna fucking stroll in like a motherfucker, 709 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:33.280 and he and Sid has been smoking like nobody's business. 710 00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:38.199 But he's still dressed, yes, in a plaid shirt, button down, 711 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:43.960 tucked in with a hat. He's in the house. Okay, 712 00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:55.360 he's in the house. Frank, Frank, I see you. I 713 00:35:55.480 --> 00:36:01.440 saw you five miles away, and you're smoking my joint 714 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:09.960 and I could see far beyond the limitations of society, 715 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:19.039 right exactly. It opens up new worlds to him, and 716 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:25.559 I will see him beyond the limitations of human ability 717 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.760 to see. It's real simple, And I'm gonna tell you something, 718 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:33.440 Frankie's real simple. You sneak out of the house again. 719 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.679 You sneak out with my car. You come back here, 720 00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:42.599 I'll kill you. 721 00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.199 The Sidney ad libs never disappoints, does it. I thought 722 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:53.159 you were gonna say to see, Frank, it's real simple. 723 00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:57.280 You said my church at Cana and Assassin. 724 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.440 You delivered. I'm gonna tell you something else. You finally 725 00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:06.159 deliver those fucking being us. I almost send you sound picture, 726 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:11.320 huge kudos. 727 00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.280 One of the most delightful parts of the SID tribute 728 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.519 has been members of the Solar System, mostly commenting on Patreon, 729 00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:20.480 who have caught on to ways to spell the way 730 00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.920 SID says words, How do you spell the way? 731 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.400 SID says picture? It's p I T C H E R. 732 00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.440 Thank you very much, I Richard. 733 00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:37.840 Oh, he sent my church a casey Vianna sausages, and 734 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:39.559 I send him an autograph picture. 735 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:44.960 Hey, the autograph picture the way, he says. Sean Michaels 736 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:48.440 his money. I love seeing Solar System members try to 737 00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:49.239 spell ball water. 738 00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:55.079 Yes, just amazing. Oh so thank you SID. O five 739 00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.039 becomes six, becomes O seven, and he pops up again 740 00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.960 working at the new l Ham Arena NFL, of course, 741 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.119 the former you c W Arena for the p W 742 00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.280 you promotion, where he wrestles his old buddy and his 743 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:10.079 old night and shining armor if you will. Two cold Scorpio, 744 00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.320 He who hit the bloodied hallways of the England Hotel 745 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:16.679 room after the scissor brawl with arn Anderson. I hesitate 746 00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:20.920 to call it a scissor fight, of course, and exactly. 747 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:25.840 What's going on, dude, will know Lesbian's brother. 748 00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:33.519 Did He say, say what did you got lesbians? He said, God, yeah, 749 00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.000 we got him here, Terry, they're right here. 750 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:39.480 Say hi, what he didn't know they were here? He 751 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:44.159 thought they were route. You tell me they're already here. Well, 752 00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.840 I thought, that's not I don't that's not what we 753 00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:51.239 agreed to at all. They're here, brother, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 754 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.679 We have the holllest thing in dude, man, Where where 755 00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:56.360 where is specified happening? 756 00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.559 Due if only had the wherewithal to get to the 757 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.079 E C W Arena in the summer heat in two 758 00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:06.760 thousand and seven to see two gold Scorpio versus sid. 759 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.559 Oh, I mean, I'll tell you that that's a's a 760 00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:15.159 main event anywhere in that part of Philadelphia. 761 00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:18.519 And yeah, South Philly, anywhere in that fucking industrial park 762 00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.280 that that industrial area they sit in next to like 763 00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.239 a gear manufacturer and a cheese steak place with a 764 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:27.440 two mile long line. Oh, I know, the plaza across 765 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.280 from the fucking uh you know, Marshalls. 766 00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:38.360 That's just fucking perfect, wasn't it absolutely per fect? 767 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.920 Sitting in that cab trying or the uber trying not 768 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:42.800 to touch the cheese steak till we got to the hotel. 769 00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:47.360 Ah that was I mean, just fucking kill me. The 770 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:53.159 smell of an onion rings the whole ride. Ah. Like, 771 00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.480 I'll tell you the thing is that makes it. You know, 772 00:39:56.719 --> 00:40:01.440 that makes it a very simple, plain act that you're 773 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:06.960 not going to do well eating that food, right because 774 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:12.239 now you've made you've tortured yourself to smell it for longer, 775 00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.320 So all you want to do is put it in 776 00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:17.599 your mouth as fast as possible. 777 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:20.400 I think there's a pretty good chance that Sid, wearing 778 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.800 jeans under knee pads and boots, ate one of those 779 00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.079 on a round wooden table behind the curtain. 780 00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:28.960 Yes he did, Yes he did brought it also, sure 781 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.360 you know what, I'm damn sure that he ate one 782 00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:34.519 right at a stand and said, fuck it, they're not 783 00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.719 going to start without me, right, exactly how you would 784 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:37.559 you like to eat here? 785 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:47.559 A regular? A regular Rosa Parks? He was lunch counter 786 00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:52.440 activist Sid. So then he goes up to uh Ottawa 787 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.159 that summer and works for the super FX promotion where 788 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.679 he wrestles Johnny Devine, and then he goes to wrestle 789 00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.400 for any W in Danbury, Connecticut against Jerry law we 790 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.639 missed the chances. He sid and Lawler in O seven 791 00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.960 What a bummer. Then he goes to what btw and 792 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:12.920 RIVERA O my God to wrestle too cold again remember 793 00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.360 tenth of two thousand and seven, then kick it over 794 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.239 to two thousand and eight. He works in nWo Pro 795 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.679 TV taping in Lincoln, Rhode Island at the Twin Rivers 796 00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:22.719 where he defeats Joe Delicious. I'm not sure that ever 797 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.920 made a television. He works another nWo Pro NWA Pro 798 00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.000 TV taping in Atlanta on June seventh of two thousand 799 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.639 and eight, where he defeats wrestlers by the name of 800 00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.800 Davy Boy Blain and Justin Carino. 801 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:41.039 Okay, so he's. 802 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:42.920 Still only taking matches where he can destroy people. Two 803 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:47.400 on ONEWNWA Pro. 804 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:47.679 I don't know. 805 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.639 I keep seeing nWo in New Jersey he wrestles Joe Delicious, 806 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:53.519 so this must be his buddy, This Joe Delicious guy. 807 00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.280 He worked the Knights of Columbus June thirteenth, two thousand 808 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.400 and eight and Richfield Park, New Jersey, where he on 809 00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.440 Dave Greco, Justin Creno, and Kyle Thurdon in a three 810 00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:05.800 on one handicap. You can guess who won that one. 811 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:09.559 Yeah, I'm gonna imagine Yeah that Listen sitting't losing any 812 00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:10.920 handicaps beat. 813 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.199 Cut well, well, he beat Kyle Gordon. In June, he 814 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.079 did a wrestling super show in Pemberke, Ontario against the 815 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.639 aforementioned Hannibal Devil Nicholson, where they wrestled each other to 816 00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.440 a disqualification. That was on June twenty, two thousand and eight. 817 00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:26.880 And then he worked a wrestling super show card as 818 00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:29.199 it was called in Hawkesbury and Antario against a wrestler 819 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.239 named a Tiger Raj Singh, where he defeated him on 820 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:34.559 June twenty first, two thousand and eight. And then it 821 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:36.239 was time for the Phone a ring from an old pal, 822 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.239 the guy who found him first on the softball field, 823 00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.559 the guy who gave him his first match under the 824 00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:44.719 Lord Humongous Gimmick against the Lights Nick Bucklinkle. Jerry the 825 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.800 King Lawler is still working the Tennessee State Fairgrounds. Boss 826 00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.880 It's time for a card that was entitled celebrating thirty 827 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.920 five years of Wrestling with Jerry the King Lawler, A 828 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:57.800 tribute to the King and his He blessed Sid Vicious 829 00:42:57.840 --> 00:42:59.719 to be his opponent for this occasion. It was a 830 00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:01.760 very over seven in two thousand and eight matches on 831 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:05.199 YouTube and Sid is in jeans, and Sid is back 832 00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.639 in the Memphis territory, if you will, and trying to 833 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:11.719 suck off the fumes of what's left in that one 834 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.159 part of the country where there's still just a little 835 00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.239 bit of a spark around the idea of our local wrestling. 836 00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:21.000 And he wrestled Lawler such as he was, you know, 837 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:22.840 with his titties and everything in two thousand and eight. 838 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:24.960 Of course, listen, you gotta do what you gotta do. 839 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:27.239 And he's in jeans and Jimmy Hart is in Sid's 840 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:28.519 corner to get the heat. 841 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.880 I guess, I guess what the fuck is Jesus, it's 842 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.599 like with Jimmy Hart going to add that little extra 843 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:38.119 for draw edge. 844 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.599 You think we've seen you think we've seen Sid standing 845 00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:42.360 around before? 846 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:44.079 Wait? 847 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.119 D you see this one? A lot of standing around. 848 00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:50.280 He body slams Jerry Lawler about six times after several 849 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:52.480 lock ups to start the match, and then he punches 850 00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:55.159 him and stands around. Lawler eventually does his comeback, throws 851 00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.159 a low blow at a drop kick. Jimmy Hart gets 852 00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:59.639 up on the ape and tries to hold Jerry Lawler 853 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.239 open for a shot. Of course, Lawler moves out of 854 00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.079 the way and Sid pops Jimmy Hart and Lawler rolls 855 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.159 up Sid for the one, two three, and Sid sells 856 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.039 this roll up finish as if he'd just been shot 857 00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:12.480 in the head. 858 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:13.400 Of course. 859 00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.679 My favorite thing about Sid bar none is that he 860 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.800 sells everything as if he should be supine ready to 861 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.400 be put into the grave. Yep, right, every move it's 862 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.360 either no selling and he's getting back to his feet 863 00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.480 to get to his chokes, like the power Bomb, where 864 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:32.199 he is fucking a corpse on the ground motionless for 865 00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.320 minutes on end, laying there even to the detriment of 866 00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:38.400 the flow of the match, like why since not getting 867 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:38.840 up at all? 868 00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:41.679 Fucking uh, mister Purfs should taking some notes from Sid. 869 00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.159 Oh shit, it's selling that fucking stone Cold Center in 870 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:44.800 two thousand and two. 871 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:48.559 No, I mean he sells the roll up like Owen 872 00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.679 should have sold the Summer Slam ninety seven roll up. 873 00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:57.079 He just lays there like the roll up is a 874 00:44:57.159 --> 00:44:57.960 knockout blow. 875 00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:04.239 I probably couldn't get up. It's probably stuff so uh, 876 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:10.320 I can't get the rest Kevin Lawler, get over free Lawler. 877 00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:15.800 I know you're all her son King right, just looking 878 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.000 me in the eye. You something real simple. I can't 879 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:24.519 get up. That is real simple, said you might. 880 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.039 You realize when you're giving an urgent message, you know, 881 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:28.800 ear to ear and the people can't hear you, you 882 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:33.159 don't have to do the it's real simple preface. You 883 00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:34.000 don't have to say that. 884 00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:39.440 I know what you're talking about. This is how I talk. 885 00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:43.360 These are the things that I say, right all right, 886 00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:45.199 and I'm gonna make it real simple for. 887 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.599 You, he said, says it again, and he says, by 888 00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:48.440 the way. 889 00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.519 There, I don't want to make things complicated, right, God forbid. 890 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:53.480 I don't know if you don't want to make them 891 00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:55.880 complicated for my sake or for your sake, But that's fine, 892 00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:58.079 And he says, this is what I'm gonna say. He 893 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:05.320 said that it's pronounced what's pronounced sake, the wine, the 894 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:14.079 Japanese sake. For God's sake, Will you get over here, gunner. 895 00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:18.960 They taught me that in Japan. Wait to hear what 896 00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:20.519 else they taught him in Japan. I can't wait to 897 00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:25.199 get to that. But look, I mean, as this thing 898 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:29.000 kind of starts to very very vaguely resemble the lapsed 899 00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.320 Funk Terry Funk journey. Who is the opponent? Right that 900 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.360 like threads together the generations. You know, who's the guy? Yes, 901 00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:38.920 Jerry Lawler. Yep, it's totally true. 902 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:39.239 You know. 903 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.840 As great as he was in his own right, Lawler 904 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:48.360 was like foil to so many wrestlers who straddle the generations, 905 00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.000 you know, and you could go back to it because 906 00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.559 Lawler did not work a style that you couldn't do 907 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.440 even when you were really old and beyond your years. 908 00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:58.760 And it was the promos were so strong that you 909 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:00.280 could just pick up or you left off from a 910 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:02.760 promo perspective. We heard you remember the one we called 911 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:04.199 him a baby banger, Terry Funk. 912 00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:07.599 No, I don't remember that. 913 00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:09.599 He came back here that outdoor promo where he was 914 00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:13.239 like on his farm and he's a baby banger to 915 00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:14.960 get people in the building in like two thousand and 916 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.480 four to see him wrestle Jerry Lawler one more time. 917 00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.760 And they went all around the horn. MLW A bunch 918 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.440 of indies in the Northeast. They're just tremendous and so 919 00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:26.280 sid The beneficiary of that is well here all the 920 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:28.840 way in the year two thousand and eight, after which 921 00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.480 he could do very little beyond just like we mentioned, 922 00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:34.519 stand around. He was asked in the End Your Head 923 00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.000 podcast about working with Jerry Lawler one time was Sid 924 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.400 and he said, it's like working with a skeleton out 925 00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.920 of the closet. Slow, he's already dead. It doesn't matter, 926 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:43.679 and then they laugh. 927 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.679 Wow. So I'm going to tell you something, guys. Good. 928 00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:49.159 That's where I've said this before, is that we have 929 00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.079 to do as workers in this business. We have to 930 00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.480 learn how to be comfortable in an uncomfortable situation. One 931 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:56.719 of them sometimes is what a lot of times means 932 00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.320 is I can make someone feel uncomfortable by not moving. 933 00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:04.360 This is what Sid is offering. I can make someone 934 00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.320 uncomfortable by not moving, he says. 935 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:08.760 I'm want to say you something. I want to say 936 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:13.480 something right now. I will make you feel uncomfortable. I 937 00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.360 can promise I'll make you feel by not moving. I 938 00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:25.239 will stand perfectly still and you will find no comfort. 939 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:26.239 You know what. 940 00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:30.119 I don't really disagree with him Sid standing there not 941 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.000 moving it kind of works. 942 00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:37.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, Jesus. 943 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.519 And he's basically, yeah, you know why you're not moving 944 00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:43.079 Sid because your leg doesn't work anymore. Right, but it's 945 00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.360 now a psychology right, So again a luxury that Jerry 946 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.519 Lawler afforded so many veterans that they could find in 947 00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:51.920 just one more payday that had a spark of the 948 00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.559 old time, even when they could barely move, like Terry 949 00:48:54.599 --> 00:49:00.679 Funk could barely move, because Lawler had set expectations such 950 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.000 that people didn't feel ripped off even if the match 951 00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:08.599 was that low action and that's gone, that's gone. Yeah, yeah, 952 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:11.360 the crop today. If they can't do what they do now, 953 00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:15.920 there no one's gonna sit around and by no one, 954 00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:19.840 there's not gonna be people who like accept them doing 955 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.320 a style that you know, they don't have knees anymore, 956 00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:26.440 they don't have any spring in their step anymore. Their 957 00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:29.360 careers are over. They're cooked if they can't do dives 958 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.800 and all that stuff. And that's their choice, and it 959 00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:35.320 works for them in the in the moment, but you've 960 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:36.920 got to think careers, boss are going to be a 961 00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:38.639 lot shorter, right, earning year is going to be a 962 00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:40.119 lot shorter. You're not going to be like Sid and 963 00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.599 still find ways to get booked. In two thousand and eight, 964 00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:44.840 after what happened to your leg? I don't think, so 965 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:45.760 what do you think? 966 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:51.599 I think? I think it's Sid. I think Sid finds 967 00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:57.159 a way much like life and Jeff Goldbloom in Jurassic Park, 968 00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:58.400 Sid finds a way. 969 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.320 Sid does find a way to get booked until we 970 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:06.559 give you that. So I'm going to play for you 971 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.239 a little bit of that sound from the aforemntioned interview 972 00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:12.000 that he did with the In Your Head podcast said 973 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.320 talking about being uncomfortable and uncomfortable situations and not moving. 974 00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:21.800 Yeah, I was. You know, that's a nice job. People 975 00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:23.840 crazy because you're gonna realize that, what with all of 976 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.880 a thousand million times a thousand million industry get in 977 00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:31.119 the ring sometimes, so that's sometime uncomfortable doing and that 978 00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:34.360 puts a lot of people in an uncomfortable situation. But no, 979 00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.280 I like it like that, and now I think it's 980 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.239 TV and it's going to be something we need to 981 00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:41.559 have down to ever do a little segment and everything. 982 00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:43.920 I think, then you you talk it out, you know, 983 00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:46.400 but it's a lot of fun to be able to 984 00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:47.519 do that on the comfort of people. 985 00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:50.559 And you know, Bamba, he's talking now about Bam Bam Bigelow. 986 00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:52.239 Let me go ahead just a little bit. 987 00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.320 I'm gonna tell you some guys what we have to 988 00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:57.920 as workers in this business. We have to learn how 989 00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:02.719 to be comfortable and an uncomfortable situation. And one of 990 00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:05.559 them sometimes is, uh, what longest time means? I can 991 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:09.880 make someone feel uncomfortable? But by not moving, I feel 992 00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:10.519 real comfortable. 993 00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:12.679 By not moving, I'm not gonna want me too. 994 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:17.440 You know, whatever match before me or whatever dictator fast, 995 00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:20.559 I'm I'm moving in the ring, and uh, I think 996 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.239 Kings gives me what you don't see with many people today. 997 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:26.639 I've got a calm about me that you just don't see. 998 00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.199 And what I got that from was from him. Honestly, 999 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:32.480 I got my you know, a lot of the on 1000 00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:36.440 tough interview stuff, the ability to do that you know, 1001 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.039 you got to realize in these interviews in the day, 1002 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.480 we had to do these things on a fly miss 1003 00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.800 Live TV. So that's something he taught me how to 1004 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:47.840 do too, and that he's one best at it. So 1005 00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:50.800 I learned a lot from the guy, and that right here, 1006 00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.199 that one thing in my repertoire means a lot to me, 1007 00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:56.159 just to be able to make someone feel uncomfortable. Or 1008 00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:59.920 I can feel comfortable in an uncomfortable situation means. 1009 00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:00.960 A lot to him to be able to do that. 1010 00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:03.000 Do you think he could make you feel comfortable in 1011 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:04.800 an uncomfortable situation or vice versa. 1012 00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:07.960 I think he'd I think he'd maybe feel uncomfortable most 1013 00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:08.400 of the time. 1014 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.599 So calendar turns to two thousand and nine. He hits 1015 00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:13.360 up to Montreal and works in more shows against the 1016 00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:17.840 likes of Frankie the Mobster and Handsome JF and Jeff Johnson. 1017 00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.400 He works a wrestling super show in thunder Bay, Ontario 1018 00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.039 on two and eighteenth, So it's a lot of work 1019 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:26.360 in Canada. And in these later years he wrestles Jim 1020 00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:28.559 Duggan in two thousand and nine, I invite you to 1021 00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.880 consider God. And then he goes to work for the Juggalos. 1022 00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:35.079 He goes to work for the Insane Clown Posse. They really, yes, 1023 00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:37.559 they have their wacky shows in the middle of the 1024 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.400 forest or whatever the fuck they would do. This one 1025 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.440 is in cave in Rock, Illinois and he was part 1026 00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.079 of a multiman match. Corporal Robinson who was a regular 1027 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:48.400 for the JCW guys, Scott Hall who would come out 1028 00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:53.480 in ICP hockey Jersey and just stand around shaggy tued open, 1029 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:55.360 violent Jay of course, the two sides of the insane 1030 00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.320 clown posse and yes, Sid Vicious who comes out to 1031 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:02.320 a combination of the end WO theme music and the 1032 00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:04.079 why because they had. 1033 00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:07.960 A j W O stable in Oh My God j 1034 00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:11.000 c W and in the Psycho Sid music and he 1035 00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:11.719 was a surprise. 1036 00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:13.760 They would that's what they would do with j CW. 1037 00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:15.960 As they would hire eighties guys and they would come 1038 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.000 in and do two moves, not unlike how Paul Haym 1039 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:20.039 and you Sid, you know what I mean. It wasn't 1040 00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.719 like anything long term. It wasn't a contract if they 1041 00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.280 worked more than once. It was just by happenstance. And 1042 00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:28.280 again crossover with Terry Funk who told all kinds of 1043 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.159 stories about how much he loved the clowns because they 1044 00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.679 paid him incredibly well well after his expiration date and 1045 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.320 left money at his house and everything to make it 1046 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.280 good to him. And here's here's Sid getting a bit 1047 00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.599 of that taste in this ten person tag against a 1048 00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:46.840 series of guys who worked as heels and in that organization, 1049 00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:49.199 Sid and Hall were buddies. You know, we've heard Nash 1050 00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:52.840 talk about it. They they were very close even after 1051 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:56.000 w W folded, and Sid has talked a little bit 1052 00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:57.679 about kind of reaching out to Scott as he went 1053 00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.559 through his struggles and offering to stay, let him. 1054 00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:01.159 Stay, and all that. 1055 00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:05.800 All the above, and no doubt Haul helping the psycho. 1056 00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:08.599 One get a taste of that in seeing clown posse 1057 00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:11.400 money and wear a baggy hockey jersey in his own right. 1058 00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.119 So he got the tag. In the match, he stood 1059 00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.840 there static for several minutes. He slapped a guy and 1060 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:20.559 choke slammed one after the other, choke slamming everybody. It's 1061 00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:22.480 very clear what you're signing up for when you bring 1062 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.440 Sid in, especially at this point in his life and career, 1063 00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:27.800 and that he power bombed a guy and that's that. 1064 00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:31.559 One's for the Juggalos. Then to October of two thousand 1065 00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:35.000 and nine, back in Illinois, he works a six man 1066 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.639 tag with Scott Hall and someone runed the Lord Humongous 1067 00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:41.039 Gimmick against Tojo Yamamoto Junior, a wrestler named Panic, and 1068 00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:44.320 a wrestler named Ryz Morino, and that was that was 1069 00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:47.639 it for that run there in Illinois. He then makes 1070 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:51.199 a run to France, Okay, there's a company called a 1071 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.119 w R that ran a tour of France in November 1072 00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:57.559 of two thousand and nine and Sid ends up on 1073 00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.719 the tour and he wrestles XPOX several times and beats 1074 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:05.440 him and beats a guy named the Suicide Machine. Unbelievable 1075 00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.119 Sid in France, and that's gonna go, well. 1076 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:09.519 That's that's that's wild. 1077 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.880 And in two thousand and nine, I mean, come on, like, 1078 00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.719 how how is it worth it bringing that guy in? 1079 00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:20.239 I really? I mean obviously they're this the you're not 1080 00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:23.360 doing well that promotion. Also one guy, do what you can, but. 1081 00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:24.960 One guy who was excited to see him there, because 1082 00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:27.000 this was one of those promotions that pulled together, you know, 1083 00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:29.000 just about anybody who was on the circuit that had 1084 00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.360 just left WWE and had a bit of that name recognition. 1085 00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:34.400 Rob van Dam was was on this tour and Rob 1086 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:36.159 Dandam was someone, as we talked about when we mentioned 1087 00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:39.480 sid zcw Run, that was you know, very gregarious towards Sid, 1088 00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:43.119 welcoming somebody that uh Rob is always good about building 1089 00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:45.840 bridges with the prior generation. Hogan liked him in TNA 1090 00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:48.679 and stuff like that, and he was very complimentary and 1091 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:52.199 deferential towards Hulking and Sid was much the same way. 1092 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:56.079 But RVD saw the potential, despite Sid's incredible limitations at 1093 00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:58.400 this point in time, to actually have a decent match 1094 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.000 with Sid. He saw a great challenge and working around 1095 00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:03.639 Sid's limitations and all the things RVD can do flying 1096 00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:07.280 around the ring to create something. But you know, you 1097 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.280 don't know if you're gonna get the chance with Sid 1098 00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:13.559 until he gets off the plane and you study his countenance, 1099 00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:19.719 let alone boss if he suffers another his incontinental title 1100 00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:22.840 until But you also don't know what you're getting with 1101 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.639 Sid and what you convince him to do until you 1102 00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:28.320 talk to him after tearing his bicep on the tour. 1103 00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:31.199 Oh no, And if you think Sid's cranky in general, 1104 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.360 what about a torn bicep? Sid in France in two 1105 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:38.480 thousand and nine. Here's RVD on Renee Duprie's podcast talking 1106 00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:40.760 about the memory. Renede de Prix was also on the tour, 1107 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:42.800 so you'll see him pipe in with some detail as 1108 00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:45.519 RVD gets into the story. But this is this is 1109 00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:49.559 the state of Sid after he had faded from the spotlight, 1110 00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:51.559 and we'd only hear little drips and drabs about what 1111 00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:53.880 he was doing on the indies far and wide. 1112 00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:55.760 I know, I'm trying to figure who else was there. 1113 00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:02.639 And I remember Sid when Sid came and then and left. 1114 00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:06.039 Remember talk about that for a second though. 1115 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:12.000 So Sid hadn't been wrestling and in years and years 1116 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.440 and years, and he wanted to go back to w WE. 1117 00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.480 So I'm pretty sure he thought they're just doing this 1118 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:20.599 easy overseas tour would get his name in the sheet. 1119 00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:24.320 You know, there's a lot of long uh, Prima Donna 1120 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.360 has to learn. You know, you don't always get to 1121 00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:28.280 go to the gym or get a full night sleep. 1122 00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:28.880 You might be. 1123 00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:32.159 Getting in late checking it. So he was pissed about 1124 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:32.639 all of that. 1125 00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:35.400 And then yeah, remember one time he got flown ahead 1126 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:36.880 of us and met us at the hotel. 1127 00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:37.679 Uh. 1128 00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:39.960 But yeah, like his first night in I think it was, 1129 00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:43.880 he wrestled Xpot and he hit him with a clothesline. 1130 00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:48.199 That towards bicep. Yeah, yeah, his arm was all purple. 1131 00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:51.920 And and so for the next couple of days he 1132 00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:57.559 was complaining about the tour, but also you know, kind 1133 00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:00.199 of using his arm as a reason, you know, to 1134 00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.880 be able to and and I saw that happening, and 1135 00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:05.360 I was supposed to wrestle him like in a few days, 1136 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.039 and I really wanted to. I want to have a 1137 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.440 singles match with him, you know, I thought, uh, and 1138 00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:12.119 and I could tell it. You know, he was was 1139 00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:14.400 doing like checking out, So I was like trying to 1140 00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:17.360 motivate him on the on the house and I, dude, 1141 00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:19.559 know when we when we wrestle on Friday or whatever 1142 00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.559 it is, you know, we're gonna setch a good match. 1143 00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.480 It was like he goes, now, I don't and I'm gonna, dude, 1144 00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:29.360 forget about your arm. Man, I got you. And then 1145 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:33.079 the day came for you know, and I was still 1146 00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:35.440 trying to tell him, Bro, I'm gonna work all around 1147 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:37.320 you and make you look like so good. It's gonna 1148 00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:39.320 be the best match I ever had. Let's you know, 1149 00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:42.000 let's do this. When we got to the arena on 1150 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:43.880 the day that we're supposed to wrestle each other, he 1151 00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:48.440 went and talked to the office switched everything around. So 1152 00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:53.800 he wrestled XPOC again. And my first match, Yeah, they 1153 00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:55.800 went out there and x Pock didn't even know he 1154 00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:56.559 was going to do this. 1155 00:58:57.039 --> 00:58:58.599 They right off the bat. 1156 00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.599 He just kicked in the stomach and mob power bomb 1157 00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:03.039 and then he went home. 1158 00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:04.559 Wow. 1159 00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.840 Yeah, I was bombed because I wanted to work with him. 1160 00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:14.480 Oh man, Rob Jesus, you know, this is what the 1161 00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.320 sound that that Sid makes when whenever he has any 1162 00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:26.320 kind of injury, totally just looking at the injury, screaming 1163 00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:33.280 at the injury, exactly, screaming like nobody wants to help 1164 00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:36.079 him in that kind of situation, Like nobody wants to 1165 00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:40.199 come near to somebody who's screaming that wildly, you know, 1166 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:43.800 like a wounded animal. I mean it's like, yeah, exactly, well, 1167 00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.840 it's like, you know, it's a Yeah, it's a wounded animal. 1168 00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:49.960 It's it's a it's a it's a rabbit animal. You know, 1169 00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:50.760 it's like a funk. 1170 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.119 I don't want to It's an animal that does know 1171 00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:55.360 the difference between someone trying to approach to help and 1172 00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:57.519 someone trying to approach to make you hurt. 1173 00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:00.800 Worse right, and you know what, he doesn't care. That's correct, 1174 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:01.079 That's it. 1175 01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:05.840 It's so funny that Arbady thinks like Sid can be 1176 01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:08.719 lobbied to actually try. In two thousand and nine, he 1177 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:11.239 is gone, my friend, he is gone. 1178 01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:16.119 Listen, listen the moment the moment you give him a check, right, 1179 01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:22.280 all right? He is done? That is it? And Sid 1180 01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:23.360 is done. 1181 01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:27.239 And it's amazing. He's not just crushing the Jabronis who've 1182 01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:29.599 been mentioning. I mean XPOC, you know, someone that he 1183 01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:31.400 worked with in WWF and presumably he had a lot 1184 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:33.639 of respect for it, just as much tenure in this 1185 01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:36.719 business and respecting this business as he did. Nope, he's 1186 01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:39.239 going down to in seconds and he's getting on a plane. 1187 01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:41.920 I just love it so much that he did that. 1188 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.000 He goes back to the aforementioned RpW promotion in Illinois 1189 01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:48.400 in the fall of twenty ten and works another six 1190 01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:50.679 man tag team Matchup twenty eleven, he goes over to 1191 01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:54.320 Powerhouse Wrestling and Outfit in Auburn, Massachusetts actually and does 1192 01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:56.639 a couple of shots. He does one of the Elks 1193 01:00:56.639 --> 01:01:00.440 Lodge and Queens for p WS and April twenty seven eleven, 1194 01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:03.519 where he defeated Eddie Kingston. The future a W Starr 1195 01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:06.480 was able to share the ring with Sid at one 1196 01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:07.119 point in time. 1197 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:11.119 I mean, listen, if you go into a lodge, that's 1198 01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:14.480 that's where the money's at. I agree, you know, I, 1199 01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:17.480 I you know, I always whenever you say a lodge 1200 01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:19.000 or something like that. I always think at the time 1201 01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:20.840 I went to the Lions Club to see a Wrestling 1202 01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:24.599 OH match and it was like a cancel because of snow. 1203 01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:28.440 But there were like three rows of chairs, you know, 1204 01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:32.559 around the ring. Three rows. That's it. I would have 1205 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:34.079 loved to have experienced that. 1206 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.239 That's where people who really love the business go out 1207 01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:40.199 and give it. They're all yeah, and Sid certainly fit 1208 01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:43.920 that description. But you know, it's time for the law 1209 01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:47.000 to catch up with Sid because we've been talking about 1210 01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:52.079 how hard he blows cushy, how high he stays and 1211 01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:56.760 you better recall. And by now folks have been hearing 1212 01:01:57.320 --> 01:02:00.760 the many episodes and installments of the Unwrappening the twenty 1213 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:04.000 twenty four TLF Christmas Show, we'll have already gotten into 1214 01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:06.360 the episode if they've been keeping up where We opened 1215 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:09.360 the gift from our pal John in the UK who 1216 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:12.519 got us a twenty twenty five TLF wall calendar. Oh 1217 01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:15.840 my god, desk calendar, and every month is a different 1218 01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:19.119 mug shot of a wrestling luminary who's been arrested. And 1219 01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:21.199 we were quite surprised, as steeped as we were at 1220 01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:23.880 the time, Boss and Sid History to find a sid 1221 01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:27.320 mugshot among the twelve. When did Sid get arrested? 1222 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:27.960 What is this? 1223 01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:33.280 It happened in January of twenty and eleven. Wow Associated 1224 01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:39.119 Press Dateline. Memphis wrestler Psycho Sid Udy is free on 1225 01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:43.239 bail after being arrested in Memphis on a marijuana possession charge. 1226 01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:46.360 Police say they pulled the fifty year old ut over 1227 01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:52.079 Friday for not wearing a seat belt. Excuse me, sir, 1228 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:53.039 license and registration? 1229 01:02:53.119 --> 01:03:00.000 Please? Why you ask it for stuff? All right? 1230 01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.440 Call for backup. I mean, of all the things to 1231 01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:04.440 come back at an officer with, why are you asking 1232 01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:06.800 for stuff? I mean, this guy's clearly already fucked. 1233 01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:07.599 Up, sir. 1234 01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:10.199 We need to see some some form of identification to 1235 01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:12.199 get a sense of whether you're a danger on the road. 1236 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:15.960 Okay, now I want you to the cop says. Okay. 1237 01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:19.599 By the way, now I want you to look me 1238 01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:21.960 in the eye because I want to tell you something 1239 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:27.599 is real simple. What you're doing right now it's bogus, 1240 01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:33.920 the most bogus that you've ever pulled off. Now, I 1241 01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:35.360 want to know, sir, how do you know me? 1242 01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:35.639 Like? 1243 01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:39.440 Have we run into each other before? I want to 1244 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:39.920 know something. 1245 01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:40.599 Is it? 1246 01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:46.880 Because go ahead, sir, you pull me over. Because I'm 1247 01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:53.800 not a big movie star like Hulk Hogan, the Great 1248 01:03:53.920 --> 01:04:00.039 Immortal One himself. This is because I'm a newcomer. I 1249 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:05.639 want to tell you something right now. You couldn't arrest 1250 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:10.880 me on your best day. Oh really, as he fondles 1251 01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:15.679 the handcuffs on his waist, And I couldn't arrest myself 1252 01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:16.480 on my worst. 1253 01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:24.039 He would say something close to that inadvertently. Of course, 1254 01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:26.840 he'd mean something very loge right, he would, but that's 1255 01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:30.960 how it would come out. Marijuana possession charge. Police say 1256 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:32.880 they pulled the fifty year old duty over Friday for 1257 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.800 not wearing a seat belt. Wmc TV in Memphis reports 1258 01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:39.519 an officer saw a bag containing eighteen grams of marijuana 1259 01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:41.119 on an arm rest in the car. 1260 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:44.119 Oh god, mister Udy. 1261 01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:47.239 Is it okay? Looking at your license here? Arkansas? Huh 1262 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:49.039 West Memphis, right over the river. 1263 01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:51.599 And got a problem with that? Not at all? No, 1264 01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:55.239 just well you asking questions Marion? Do you live in Marion? 1265 01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:55.400 No? 1266 01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:02.239 Now I want to tell you something again. Now I'm rotten. 1267 01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:08.280 Now delivering food to the poor looks like you're delivering 1268 01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:10.480 a lot more than me. Looks like you're delivering a 1269 01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:13.679 lot more than food. Shut it, you shut up. Oh shit, 1270 01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:19.639 I'm delivering one hundred and fifty cans of Vienna sausages. 1271 01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:22.400 Excuse feedrol, excuse me. 1272 01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:26.639 Suspect says he's delivering one hundred and fifty cans of 1273 01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:34.159 Vienna sausages. Back up to root seventy five. Please, well, 1274 01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:37.239 I can confirm dispatch looking in this trunk. There do 1275 01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:41.320 appear to be many cans of Vienna sausages in this trunk. 1276 01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:43.639 So that isn't a euphemism for drugs. 1277 01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:45.280 I gonna tell you something else. 1278 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:46.840 I'm giving bowl water. 1279 01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:50.400 Sir. Just please stay on your knees on the shoulder, please, 1280 01:05:50.599 --> 01:06:02.400 just please. I can't get on my knee, so usually 1281 01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:05.679 stand off. I broke my leg. Tell you what off, 1282 01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:09.400 Tell you what he tells him. Tell you what officer 1283 01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.840 he started. He suddenly realizes he's fucked. Tell you what. 1284 01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:14.719 This is all a big misunderstanding. How about this? How 1285 01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:17.519 about I give you you Let me go. I'm gonna 1286 01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:23.519 say you autograph picture. I'll send you one, so the office. 1287 01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:28.599 So the officer lets him go, and then six weeks 1288 01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:32.079 later he goes down to the mailbox and he's leafing 1289 01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:36.599 through envelopes. In one is an autograph picture. But you 1290 01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:38.599 know what, you know it too. It's like it's it's 1291 01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:40.920 not even like one of his one of his promo shots, 1292 01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:42.519 like a selfie that he took that he printed up 1293 01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:44.800 on his computer. Yeah, it's like up like up his 1294 01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:54.079 nose like and again it's on like it's on like 1295 01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:56.519 regular paper. It's not even on like photo paper. It's 1296 01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:58.880 on printer paper. He never told his wife about the arrest. 1297 01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:01.360 He's like banging on the bed because it's locked. She's like, Sid, 1298 01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:03.199 what are you doing in there? He's taking the picture. 1299 01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:09.159 Shut up, you better not be smoking again. I'm gonna 1300 01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:13.360 tell you something right now, woman, And it's real simple. Yeah, 1301 01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:19.119 I thought, I'm not obligated to tell you anything. I 1302 01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:23.280 won't do what I want. I'll do it to oh shit, 1303 01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:28.320 and I will do and I will autograph this picture. 1304 01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:33.840 I will tell you that I'll sometimes have to autograph pictures. Yeah, 1305 01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:36.039 this would be a have Do I agree with that characterization? 1306 01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:40.800 Yeah, eighteen grams of marijuana on the arm rest in 1307 01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:44.320 the car. He also faced charges of driving without a license. Well, 1308 01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:46.760 that will come into play later. He was released on 1309 01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:51.320 one thousand dollars bond. Beauty of Marion was known as 1310 01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.679 Sid Vicious in World Championship Wrestling and a Sid Justice 1311 01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:56.239 and Psycho Said and the World Wrestling Federation. A message 1312 01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:59.119 left Sunday from Memphis Police was not immediately returned. A 1313 01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:03.280 call to listing for Sidney Uti and Marion was not answered. Well, 1314 01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:07.039 we can believe this story because sid was never shy 1315 01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:11.679 about talking about his oh boy affection for that stinky 1316 01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:15.000 green and here he is on his own podcast talking 1317 01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:15.440 about it. 1318 01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:18.520 Everyone knows there's not a bigger pot smoker than myself. 1319 01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:22.119 I like the idea that we have this, and I'm 1320 01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:24.960 a I've got everyone knows there's not a bigger pot 1321 01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:29.119 smoker than myself. I like the idea that we have this, 1322 01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:32.640 and I'm a I've got my marijuana card, marijuana car 1323 01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:37.000 here for Arkansas. I think you had better marijuana when 1324 01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:40.319 it wasn't legalized. They're just running cheap streath through the 1325 01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:44.439 thing right now. But I think that has to be legalized. 1326 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:48.399 There's just so so many upsides to it. I talked 1327 01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:50.359 to a couple of people in the last couple of 1328 01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:52.920 months now that I know are going through really really 1329 01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:56.399 serious pain management programs that are really backing off their 1330 01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:00.119 pain management because of the marijuana and the CBD all 1331 01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.479 stuff like that. So we've got to get that legalized. 1332 01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:03.960 We can't. 1333 01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:08.399 I hope that anyone Republican or Democrat didn't take a 1334 01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:12.479 stance on something that just you're taking a stance just 1335 01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:15.199 because that's where your party believes. When you really know 1336 01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:18.880 it's it's it's it could really help people. Yeah, and 1337 01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:21.680 help the help so many of the tax but so 1338 01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:25.319 much and they pay so much in tax you know, they. 1339 01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:26.600 Do pay so much in taxes. 1340 01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:29.560 And just know that, you know, if you're in a 1341 01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:35.000 state going forward that legalizes recreational marijuana use, or if 1342 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:36.680 you're in a state that embraces it, or if ever 1343 01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:39.159 the day comes boss where you know, the federal law 1344 01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:43.199 changes to decriminalize marijuana, the day will come. And when 1345 01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:45.680 that day comes, I want you to think of sid Okay. 1346 01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:48.439 We'll do. And that's that. That's the legacy. 1347 01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:52.239 He leaves behind driving without a license with eighteen grams 1348 01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:55.840 of marijuana and plain sight. But the end is those 1349 01:09:55.880 --> 01:09:57.079 are hidden under lock and key. 1350 01:09:57.800 --> 01:09:59.880 Damn right. I couldn't find those if you try. 1351 01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:01.279 Now. 1352 01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:04.199 I mentioned that the missing license thing. I highlighted that 1353 01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:06.840 for a reason, we are now entering the point in 1354 01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:11.399 Sid's life where it becomes essentially a meme that he 1355 01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:15.840 misses shows, oh boy, and miss his shots for indie promoters. 1356 01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:18.359 And these indie promoters are a little more savvy than 1357 01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:19.920 the ones he may have tried to get one over 1358 01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:21.760 on a decade ago, in that they know how to 1359 01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:26.119 use social media to broadcast to people like, this is 1360 01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:28.840 the game he's playing, this is the promises he. 1361 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:30.880 Made, you know, here's the proof. 1362 01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:33.720 Here are the receipts, as they say, and this is 1363 01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:35.760 what he said he would do, and this is what 1364 01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:38.640 we ascertained he actually went ahead and did. And then 1365 01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:40.960 these are the excuses he made when he didn't show up. 1366 01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:45.439 And then patterns start to emerge across different promoters as 1367 01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:48.199 they talk about dealing with Sid. This could be for 1368 01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:51.640 autograph signings or wrestling matches or appearances, they're all sort 1369 01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:57.840 of the same. And he is always citing a license thing. 1370 01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:01.880 It's either he lost his wallet and therefore can't get 1371 01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:05.760 on the plane, yeah, or can't you know, can't drive, 1372 01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:09.800 or he doesn't have a license, so he they don't 1373 01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:11.880 let him get on the plane because he doesn't have 1374 01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:14.760 a license, or the or the license he does have. 1375 01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:16.920 This is a good one, we'll get there. Doesn't comport 1376 01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:19.239 with the new real ID laws, you know that don't 1377 01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:22.119 allow necessarily a state driver's license without a passport to 1378 01:11:22.119 --> 01:11:24.000 get on a plane. I don't know where my passport is, 1379 01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.439 of course you don't. You kne where it was when 1380 01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:29.680 you hit France a couple of years ago. But and 1381 01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:31.920 just the missing wallet, and this, the idea of the 1382 01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:34.279 wallet becomes central. You know how he always was so 1383 01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:37.920 descriptive and schewting interviews about like the exact circumstances of 1384 01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:41.920 receiving a phone call. He was very He remembered walking 1385 01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:44.560 in the door, he remembered who answered the phone instead 1386 01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:46.880 of him and passed him the phone. He's very much 1387 01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:50.920 a magician when it comes to manipulating phone calls. He 1388 01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:55.399 strategically misses right or coming up with all these for 1389 01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:58.039 some reason, introducing all this detail about how the phone 1390 01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:00.560 call was placed. He called, you know, he called my 1391 01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:04.439 cousin's auto body shop, or he called me when I 1392 01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:06.319 was just coming in the door. He's always coming in 1393 01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:08.039 and out of the door. Sid He's always in out 1394 01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:11.399 of the door and it's you know, we enter this 1395 01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:14.880 modern age where promoters are comfortable going public when wrestlers 1396 01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:16.880 screwed them over, and they have a platform if you 1397 01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:19.079 have Facebook or whatever the case may be, to disseminate 1398 01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:21.319 those details, and the wrestling news sites will write that 1399 01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:21.960 up all day. 1400 01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:22.840 And this is. 1401 01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:26.600 Where sid his reputation for playing all these games crystallizes, 1402 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:29.840 and the whole house of cards falls apart. Like if 1403 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.399 you believe he got screwed once, you're like, oh, wait, 1404 01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:36.239 he's actually he's actually claimed to have been screwed that 1405 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:39.119 way ten thousand times, right, Or this one promoter got 1406 01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:40.640 in his bad side and he screwed him in no weight. 1407 01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:43.239 There are ten thousand promoters he never once dealt with, 1408 01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:45.720 beyond it one no show that feel the same way 1409 01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:49.920 about him. And so this becomes fairly or unfairly, I 1410 01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:51.640 would are you fairly? I mean he certainly I think 1411 01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:53.800 did it enough to establish a pattern part of his 1412 01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:57.199 tail reputation in the business towards the end of his 1413 01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:02.840 productive years. Twelve. This is an article that was published 1414 01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:05.640 on Wrestle's Zone. It's not so much an article as 1415 01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:09.199 it was an email response from an independent promoter for 1416 01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:13.159 the company pro wrestling syndicate named Eric, who emailed the 1417 01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:16.239 website kind of an explanation of what it was like, 1418 01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:18.640 because you know what, Eric went ahead and did. Eric 1419 01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:21.439 hit the ring when Sid no showed his show, and 1420 01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:24.800 he cut a scathing promo and Sid for no showing, 1421 01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:26.319 because you know, you got to if you can't deliver 1422 01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:28.600 the people, you don't want him ask a refund. So 1423 01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:30.279 you go out there and try to turn the crowd 1424 01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:32.399 on the person, right right, that's what you do. 1425 01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:33.680 You know he does. 1426 01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:35.479 He goes in the ring and gives the whole audience 1427 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:37.239 Sid's personal phone number. 1428 01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:39.439 So they, oh my god, so they can blow him 1429 01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:40.680 up with complaints for no showing. 1430 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:44.239 Oh my god, that I believe Sid had had a 1431 01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:47.920 whacky call forwarding mechanism where it was like, is it 1432 01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:50.520 really his number? People didn't even know, mister, I don't 1433 01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:53.760 have a computer, had like Google voice, you know, of course. 1434 01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:59.359 And here's the email that that any promoter wrote to 1435 01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:02.199 a wrestler's on that gives us a real uh, a 1436 01:14:02.279 --> 01:14:02.840 real flavor. 1437 01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:03.079 Boss. 1438 01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:05.199 I'm gonna turn it over to you get your best, 1439 01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:08.880 get your best indie voice on. And these are the 1440 01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:11.600 things that they start to. 1441 01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:15.439 So good oh my god. 1442 01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:18.640 Hold on, uh, these are the things that start to 1443 01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:22.880 get disseminated and things that start to get to be 1444 01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:30.279 known about about Sid's dealings. This is from the promoter Eric, 1445 01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:31.119 who went by Eric. 1446 01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:31.680 Tap out. 1447 01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:36.880 Okay, because he's comfortable with you knowing his name exactly, 1448 01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:39.600 and go right to head boss. What did the email read? 1449 01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:48.920 Hold on here? What is it? The Wait a minute, 1450 01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:51.039 which one is the proto? Chris? 1451 01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:51.560 There? 1452 01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:54.159 I'm sorry, something else came into the bottom. Okay, hold 1453 01:14:54.159 --> 01:15:03.920 on a lot here? Now where's this guy from? Who's 1454 01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:06.560 this guy? He's the promoter of a wrestling outfit called 1455 01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:14.720 Pro Wrestling Syndicate. Hey, Chris, thanks for the email. I 1456 01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:17.119 enjoyed your your editorial, and do not fault you in 1457 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:21.039 any way, shape or form for not having the full story. See, 1458 01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:23.079 you were simply going by what you were told from 1459 01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:27.600 a wrestler whom should be a valid, reliable source. The 1460 01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:31.319 way we handled the SID no show was definitely a 1461 01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:35.640 controversial move. Some will side with it, and of course, likewise, 1462 01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:38.960 some will we vocal against. Please understand that this is 1463 01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:47.239 our third miserable experience third with SID. Third third miserable 1464 01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:50.720 experience with SID, which is what really pushes over the. 1465 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:55.119 Top, also known by the way Boss is a big misunderstanding. 1466 01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:02.520 SID has burned us three times now. First time we 1467 01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.239 had Sid booked was for May twenty eleven, said just 1468 01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:09.359 to sign autographs at the Queen's Elks Lodge for ninety 1469 01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:13.000 minutes before the show and wrestle against Eddie Kingston that night. 1470 01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.560 Said it was paid in full. When he arrived, he 1471 01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:18.960 was in private room with Nick Foley and Velvet Sky 1472 01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:23.079 for autographs with a lot of two hundred plus. After 1473 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:25.840 legit fifteen minutes had got up, walked awayside and I 1474 01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:29.199 don't feel like doing this anymore, going to the back. 1475 01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:34.439 I don't feel like doing this anymore. You know what, 1476 01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:39.680 I don't feel like doing this no more. Shut up. 1477 01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:44.560 No one had said anything. He's just like I know 1478 01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:48.720 you're about to say something before you say it. It's 1479 01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:51.880 again this imagine. It's like, you know, he's sitting at 1480 01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:54.319 a table. See I also picture I also picture the 1481 01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:58.680 signing room like in the wrestler Oh always the ten, 1482 01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:01.760 you know, and so he just like a you get 1483 01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:06.840 a pale fluorescent light scheme all right overhead, pale fluorescent 1484 01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:10.800 light scheme, and he's he's wearing a red plaid shirt 1485 01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:14.800 tucked into his jeans baseball hat, puts his hand on 1486 01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:18.039 the table, stands up. I'll feel like doing this no more, 1487 01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:26.680 and everyone's like looking at him. Okay, shut I don't 1488 01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:31.600 want no back talk, I said versus Eddie Kingston was 1489 01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:34.680 a major letdown, and that not that anyone was expecting 1490 01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:37.520 a five star match. However, the crowd quickly turned on 1491 01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:40.520 and said within thirty seconds. The video of the full 1492 01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:44.880 match can be seen here. After the match, said came 1493 01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:46.800 to the back and said, Eric, I should have listened 1494 01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:48.479 to you. I've been doing this a long time when 1495 01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:51.159 I was wrong. We'll do better next time. Okay, not 1496 01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:54.840 a problem. You fans were upset by not being able 1497 01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:57.920 to get Sid's autograph with a sold out Elks Queen's 1498 01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.880 Elk's Lodge event. He said something about no one bringing Vienna's. 1499 01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:04.560 I don't know what the hell that's about, not probably 1500 01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:08.000 the email. Therefore we tried. We decided to try it 1501 01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:10.640 again with Sud to meet the demands of our fans. 1502 01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:15.199 Sud was booked to compete for p WS on August twenty, 1503 01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:20.760 twenty eleven in Ronk and Koma from Konkoma, New York. 1504 01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:24.479 We also got SID bookings to do two hour autograph 1505 01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:28.159 session and signings at two stories during the weekend. SID 1506 01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:30.880 flight was not booked until two weeks before the PWS 1507 01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:34.640 show because SID reference he did not know when he'd 1508 01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:38.479 be returning from Africa with Kevin Sullivan. Since stated the 1509 01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:41.560 Sullivan wanted him and wanted him in an Africa tour 1510 01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:44.279 and did not know whether Sullivan will be flying SID 1511 01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:47.520 directly in New York for US or back home. Sud 1512 01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:54.399 never went to Africa. Now, I don't know. Here's the thing, 1513 01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:55.760 I don't know where I'm going to be on with 1514 01:18:55.800 --> 01:19:00.600 Africa US too much? 1515 01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:03.840 Does A guy who always said I never wanted to travel, 1516 01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:07.119 I don't want to leave the country. It's go to 1517 01:19:07.159 --> 01:19:09.239 Africa in twenty eleven. 1518 01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:14.239 Okay, oh god, you know. One week before August twenty shows, 1519 01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:18.039 said contact PWS saying he needed us to fly in 1520 01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:22.239 his girlfriend as well just keep people happy. We agreed. 1521 01:19:22.880 --> 01:19:25.680 A day later, she contact us again and said not 1522 01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:28.439 to fly and his girlfriend. But since we agreed to it, 1523 01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:34.079 to just give him the money for the flying. I 1524 01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:35.479 don't get the problem. I don't know why it is 1525 01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:38.439 such a bad reputation again again keep fans happy. We 1526 01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.079 sucked it up and agreed two days later said contract 1527 01:19:41.119 --> 01:19:43.720 to PWS again to go over that tenery for the weekend. 1528 01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:46.680 At this point he said he would only do one 1529 01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:50.279 of the two store appearances, not both, but one of 1530 01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:52.319 the same payday as if he was doing everything in 1531 01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:56.199 addition to the prices of his girlfriend's flying and both 1532 01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:59.000 store appearances were heavily advertised at Dan Sherman store in 1533 01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:01.960 Staten Island and at Royal Collectibles and Queens. Yeah, I 1534 01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:02.880 forgot to say. 1535 01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:05.359 Pro wrestling seem to get a as a New York promotion, 1536 01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:09.520 I know, but I guess this guy's an Athens, Georgia. 1537 01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:11.800 You know, listen, everyone's fine, you know, it's it's a 1538 01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:15.640 melting pot, it's a it's a you know, it's you know, 1539 01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:18.520 this New York. The people from everywhere, you know. 1540 01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:18.960 It was. 1541 01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:21.800 I can't imagine a new you know, outside of Paul 1542 01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:26.880 Hayman real New York are doing a wrestling promotion. It 1543 01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:29.800 was pulled from Dan Van Sherman store again with a focus. 1544 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:31.880 So just let's just do whatever it takes to get 1545 01:20:31.960 --> 01:20:35.720 Sid to PWS to ps of fans to then phone 1546 01:20:35.760 --> 01:20:37.760 back to say that he would not do the full 1547 01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:43.600 ninety sign the PWS. At that point, PWS explained that 1548 01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:45.760 he agreed to do that and that's the major reason 1549 01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:48.479 he was bringing brought in. They claimed he never agreed 1550 01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:51.159 to do ninety minutes, but claimed he agreed to do 1551 01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:54.720 thirty minutes. PWS refer to the details that we're in 1552 01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:57.439 the email to sit and explain his entire itinerary in full, 1553 01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:00.159 as well as a PWS advertise a ninety minus to 1554 01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:02.439 meet and greed featuring Sid and others for the past 1555 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:10.279 several weeks. Sid said, Yeah, you know, I think we 1556 01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:15.520 have some red flags here. You'd say that again, Sid, 1557 01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:22.520 fucking Christ, He's fucking brilliant and this one PWS and 1558 01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:24.640 Sid agreed that he'd be best if he stayed home. 1559 01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:29.600 Was PWS announced. Immediately PWS ran with Dan mav versus 1560 01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:32.479 Harry Smith Smith's post w W first post w match 1561 01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:35.079 his said and came out of pocket. Given the first 1562 01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:37.479 three hundred fans and ten it's a free PWS DVD 1563 01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:40.159 to make up for Sid not being there. It's by 1564 01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:44.680 us again. Fans were upset that Sid wasn't there. After 1565 01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:47.720 all that, once again with PAS our fans, we decided 1566 01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:51.159 to try one final time with Sid. Said agreed wrestle 1567 01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:54.319 Matt Hardy on March twelve. March ninth, twenty twelve at 1568 01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:58.840 the Rahway Center Railway rec Center. Condition Is signed autographs 1569 01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:02.479 for two hours before we decided to keep Sid's booking 1570 01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:05.560 short and simple. I had no store appearances or convention 1571 01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:09.159 appearances while he was in town. PWS was approached by 1572 01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:12.119 Kfab Commentary about their desire to do a shoot interview 1573 01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:15.399 with Sid. After the PWS show, Sid accepted their offer. 1574 01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:19.039 PWS was in contact with Sid on a weekly basis, 1575 01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:21.640 making sure the specifics of his book and were fresh 1576 01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:26.079 on his mind. Sid was very polite, courteous, respectful, and 1577 01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:28.600 genuinely seemed like he was excited for the event, eager 1578 01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:31.840 to wrestle Matt Hardy. We had zero reason to believe 1579 01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:36.319 Sid would believe Sid would nothing, but was nothing but 1580 01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:41.279 a pleasure to work with. Based on these conversations, PWS 1581 01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:43.920 spoke to Sit at nine to forty five in March eighth. 1582 01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:46.399 Sid knew he had to catch a flight with six 1583 01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:49.920 ams in the LaGuardia with a transfer Chicago O'Hare, and 1584 01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:52.920 knew that a gentleman driving a black Homer would would 1585 01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:55.039 be picking up at the gate. SID was to land 1586 01:22:55.079 --> 01:22:58.600 at one pm in New York. At ten forty five 1587 01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:01.399 am on Friday, March nine, PBS received a phone call 1588 01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:07.279 from Sid which one as follows, Man, I'm not gonna 1589 01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:13.600 make it. We had an awkward pause waiting from to say, Hey, 1590 01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:26.039 just kidding, what's wrong you okay? Man? Thing is I 1591 01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:29.600 went into a Dead Boy soda and someone stole my wallet. 1592 01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:37.920 There we go there it is. That's it written in there, 1593 01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:40.880 you know the damn it's written in there. It is 1594 01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:42.920 it isn't there. That's true. Yeah, it's in there. I 1595 01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:46.199 wasn't doing that. That is actually in there in all caps. 1596 01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:50.239 Damn it. He went in to buy a soda full grown, man, 1597 01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:52.720 I want to do it by soda, and someone stole 1598 01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:55.880 my walk like its gonna fucking steal his water. Like 1599 01:23:56.319 --> 01:23:58.239 even though even though he's fucking even though I know 1600 01:23:58.279 --> 01:24:02.640 he's basically a cripple, he's still fucking what six ' 1601 01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:05.479 ten whatever he is, Like, no one's gonna touch this 1602 01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:10.720 fucking monster, all right, He's he's still a very you know, 1603 01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:15.279 he feels aggressive. Right again, if you're looking at pickpock, 1604 01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:18.399 doing nothing makes you feel uncomfortable with this. You just 1605 01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:20.960 said that. I mean, if you're gonna pickpocket someone, if 1606 01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:24.159 you leave the house to pickpocket someone, you're gonna skip SID. Okay, 1607 01:24:24.319 --> 01:24:29.680 yeah right, exactly. Wow, that's really horrible. Where are you now? 1608 01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:33.600 I'm home now, I got a wasted day. Call and 1609 01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:38.920 cancel my credit cards. Uh is there any way possible 1610 01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:40.840 we can book you on a later flight and get 1611 01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:43.960 you in New Jersey tonight? They stole my idea, I 1612 01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:50.560 can't you know. I'll talk to you and call. Oh 1613 01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:52.399 it's a good one, man, I gotta get into him. 1614 01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:54.479 That's a good one. I lost my wallet in El 1615 01:24:54.560 --> 01:25:01.600 Segundo exactly like a fucking oh god. Well no, someone 1616 01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:07.279 stole my wallet off the counter. I guess yeah. PW 1617 01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:11.159 has tried diligently replaced Sid. We immediately began rapid firing calls. 1618 01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:13.600 Ken Anderson was contacted, but he was in Kentucky for 1619 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.840 a TNA house show. John Morrison was contact, was unable 1620 01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:21.000 to do PWSD to a private sign in NYC. TNA's 1621 01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:25.000 Bob Ryder was contact. Nobody available. Ess Promotions, Eric Sims, 1622 01:25:25.079 --> 01:25:29.239 Same Deal, Kevin Steen, Jy Briscoe, Homicide MVP all received 1623 01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:31.439 calls as well. We were willing to make take on 1624 01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:35.359 multiple names to replace SID. Besides, the best move we 1625 01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:39.600 could have we could make was Jay Lethal Balls, Maahone, 1626 01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:42.279 Martin Jenny All wrestling on the event. We had little 1627 01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:45.680 time and not a lot of options. The Pro Wrestling 1628 01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:48.680 syndic At Supercard twenty twelve event open with Pat Buck 1629 01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:51.920 in the ring explaining exactly what happened with Sid. Sid's 1630 01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:55.319 phone was called from the ring and it went to 1631 01:25:55.439 --> 01:26:02.680 voicemail while fans chanted their thoughts on side. The phone 1632 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:05.520 number was quickly read. Because we did not want anyone 1633 01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:08.319 to think we were pulling a stunt by false advertising SID. 1634 01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:11.279 It would have been very simple for anyone to turn 1635 01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:13.800 around and say, yeah, that's right. They probably called Domino's 1636 01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:16.000 Pietz and I said, Vicious right, you know what, give 1637 01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:20.479 that away? When they answered and said Dominos right, you know, 1638 01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:21.960 I mean, if you're gonna put it on speaker, you 1639 01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:23.800 don't actually need to give away the phone number. You 1640 01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:26.319 can just wait for the voicemail or someone to pick up. 1641 01:26:26.399 --> 01:26:30.399 But you know, after all we have been through, was said, 1642 01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:32.560 we wanted to extinguish any shadow of a doubt in 1643 01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:35.960 anyone's mind about the situation right, PW has offered a 1644 01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:40.159 refund anyone in attendance, and nobody accepted. During an admission 1645 01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:42.359 of the show, Pat Buck and myself encountered three fans 1646 01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:45.399 of the lobby area that were on the concession stand 1647 01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:49.199 line and there were verbally upset about sid not being 1648 01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:52.399 on the show. They said they felt cheated, and Pat 1649 01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:56.039 Bucking myself asked them how much they paid for their tickets. 1650 01:26:56.359 --> 01:26:59.239 Wouldn't I mean, wouldn't you know how much the tickets were? 1651 01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:04.680 It's your show? Well, since you're asking two thousand dollars, well, 1652 01:27:04.720 --> 01:27:07.680 we were told twenty dollars each. With sixty dollars cash 1653 01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:09.720 in hand, we offer them full refund, saying you know 1654 01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:12.880 you've just seen half a show of good wrestling for free. Curious, 1655 01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:17.800 you're sixty dollars back and they decline. PWS, I'll hold 1656 01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:26.279 you over right until the bank reopens. I'll tell and 1657 01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:28.279 we give you sixty dollars. I'll hold you over to 1658 01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:34.079 the bank. H I'll take two hundred dollars. Nold on, 1659 01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:37.159 Hold Hold a minute, Hold a minute. You understand your 1660 01:27:37.199 --> 01:27:39.760 money's not here. Not this thing all wrong, it's wrong. 1661 01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:43.279 Your money's not here. Your money's in a OL's house. 1662 01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:45.560 Your money's in Sid's house, in this house here in 1663 01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:48.760 the building tonight. That's right. Your money's in the house 1664 01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:55.000 that drew and the hols of seven gables and pws. 1665 01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:57.520 But does believe in keeping things professional. We would never 1666 01:27:57.560 --> 01:27:59.960 give out personal information on anyone unless there was an 1667 01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:04.319 extreme circumstance like this, like this, and we just we've 1668 01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:06.560 viewed the situation with Sid as just as being just 1669 01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:12.520 that an extreme circumstance. For instance, zem Zema i On 1670 01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:16.159 legit had car problems driving from Westerrginia, New Jersey in 1671 01:28:16.199 --> 01:28:19.239 March ninth. We know Zimma was being honest them. I 1672 01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:21.319 On is one of the nicest and most humble wrestlers 1673 01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:24.199 we've ever had on the pleasure pleasure working with. What's 1674 01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:26.680 your problem? You're I don't know who the zema Ion is, 1675 01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:30.359 but clearly not from the generation that sids from right 1676 01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:33.880 exactly right. That's your That's your biggest fucking blunder is 1677 01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:38.399 that you're taking the word to somebody who who you know, 1678 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:41.239 this whole death, whole generation of wrestler. You cannot take 1679 01:28:41.279 --> 01:28:47.439 their word. In case the m i On it was unfortunate. 1680 01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:49.880 He couldn't be there in March nine for PWS, but 1681 01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:51.800 its said he was at the p w SHO on 1682 01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:55.079 May fourth. Have the same venuine raulway, simple, no problem, 1683 01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:58.199 easy breezy. Once again, we apologize that Sid was not 1684 01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:01.800 a PWS in March ninth, Think Wressell a Hardy. We tried, guys, 1685 01:29:01.800 --> 01:29:05.439 it really did multiple times. Ball's Mahony versus Mark Jenny 1686 01:29:05.479 --> 01:29:07.560 was added so fans because still experience a match that 1687 01:29:07.640 --> 01:29:12.119 has never happened before, because that's when everyone fucking wanted, right, Yeah, 1688 01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:13.840 everyone was really excited about that. That's what That's the 1689 01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:17.640 one We've all been fucking clamoring for. Ball's Mahony versus 1690 01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:23.000 Marty Jeannetti. I can't believe they showed up either. Yeah, right, 1691 01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:26.159 he's Marty. You know I like this, you know I 1692 01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:28.199 matched that has never happened before, and like it will 1693 01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:33.920 never happen again. You get that right? Yeah? Jay Jay 1694 01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:36.079 Lethal was added wrestling Matt Hardy, which ended up being 1695 01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:39.479 a stellar bout and which saw Lethal enter to Sid's music, 1696 01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:43.000 doing a spot on Sid impersonation, including his own rendition 1697 01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:45.119 of the infamous I have half the brain that you 1698 01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:45.800 do promo. 1699 01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:49.119 If anyone can find it. I really appreciate it's a 1700 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:51.239 dead YouTube link. Now, a lot of this stuff was 1701 01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:53.520 blasted out at the time and has since been taken down. 1702 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.359 Probably Sid, Sid's lawyer gun on the phone. But yeah, right, 1703 01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:57.520 I'd love to see Jay. 1704 01:29:57.439 --> 01:30:01.840 Lethal's uh, you know, chip Onto sh Older ciinimitation God. Yes, 1705 01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:05.439 that would be absolutely amazing. After all this perhaps the 1706 01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:08.319 most complexing thing the t pws that fans have to 1707 01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:16.439 contacted us asking will Sid be at the next show? Right, Hurts. 1708 01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:19.960 It comes down to that, And that's a great note 1709 01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:22.720 there from from the promoter, Like we went through all this, 1710 01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:26.479 We're the company that gave out Sid's cell phone number 1711 01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:28.239 and called him in the ring when he know showed 1712 01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:31.239 And what's the What's the thing people ask most about 1713 01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:34.279 after all this went down? So is he going to 1714 01:30:34.319 --> 01:30:34.960 come to the next show? 1715 01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:37.880 When should come on the next show? What's wrong with 1716 01:30:37.920 --> 01:30:42.880 these wrestling gus man? Like, you know this thing? I 1717 01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:44.880 don't listen, I get it. You know, the fucking business 1718 01:30:44.920 --> 01:30:48.079 is a fucking business, you know. So I'm not going 1719 01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:50.520 to tell you. You know, I don't take a reform when 1720 01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:52.560 I still watch him fucking wrestling in the ring, you know, 1721 01:30:53.239 --> 01:31:05.880 but when Sid come back, he said, huhm h, I 1722 01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:08.560 just I have no I have no I don't answer 1723 01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:11.399 for you, sir at this time. I'm not I'm not 1724 01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:14.199 obliged to say. I'm not at liberty to say. And 1725 01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:17.720 I don't know. I don't know. I'mbarrassed. What do you 1726 01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:25.279 mean you don't know, sir? I don't. I don't. I 1727 01:31:25.319 --> 01:31:28.640 don't know. He's not going to be here. She's gonna 1728 01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:33.159 fucking be I mean, I came here to see fucking Sid, Sir. 1729 01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:39.000 He wasn't advertised to be here today. We haven't. We 1730 01:31:39.079 --> 01:31:41.920 haven't been in contact with him since, right, We've made 1731 01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:44.840 the decision to break off. What do you mean you 1732 01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.159 you just cut him off and you're gonna let us fans? 1733 01:31:47.159 --> 01:31:50.119 Fucking what's your problem? I haven't seen him in years. 1734 01:31:50.119 --> 01:31:52.119 I a huge fan of his. I'm a big fucking 1735 01:31:52.159 --> 01:31:53.520 Sid fan. I was at the garden when he won 1736 01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:56.560 the belt. I was there. I was the fucking you know, 1737 01:31:57.279 --> 01:31:59.159 So what are you doing? I want to shake man's hand. 1738 01:31:59.199 --> 01:32:01.479 I have ship from auto graph and selling me. Why 1739 01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:03.399 are you fucking with me? Right exactly? Why are you 1740 01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:06.560 fucking with me by not reaching back out to Sid? 1741 01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:09.039 After he know showed sure, I'm not well, hold on, 1742 01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:13.079 he said, why are you fucking with me? Me? I sure, 1743 01:32:13.199 --> 01:32:15.479 I'm sure, you sure, I'm not fucking with you. I'm 1744 01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:19.359 not all right. I just you know, we've been we've 1745 01:32:19.399 --> 01:32:21.039 been burned by said, you know, I don't want to 1746 01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:24.960 burn you ship here we go. I want to fucking 1747 01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:27.640 burn your whole place down. How about that, sir? Please 1748 01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:31.840 don't do that. Six hours later, the fan gets back 1749 01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:38.720 to his house. How to go? Did you tell him? 1750 01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:40.760 Did you tell him not to burn the place down? 1751 01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:45.279 Sid work in an angle he found out about what 1752 01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:51.079 they said about him. Yeah, yeah, I told him that, dad, Frank, Frank, 1753 01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:54.720 you did a good job. Maybe proud for once, for 1754 01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:57.119 instant If you made me proud on the way home, 1755 01:32:57.159 --> 01:33:01.239 that's more important. More importantly, did you delivered the Vienna's 1756 01:33:01.239 --> 01:33:09.520 the Saint Patrick's? No got it? He says no. 1757 01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:12.199 He doesn't even say oh I forgot, or doesn't said 1758 01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:16.119 what are you talking about? He goes, no, I wonder 1759 01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:19.920 he's so frustrated as this kid Saint Patrick's Cathedral in 1760 01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:23.560 New York City. You mean he's gonna leave like sixteen 1761 01:33:23.560 --> 01:33:29.119 boxes of Vienna's on the front stoop of Saint Patrick's said, 1762 01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:31.159 they don't all have pop top events. 1763 01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:44.760 I was gonna give Bishop an autograph picture walking around 1764 01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:49.800 trying to hawk autograph pictures in Midtown. You understand, I 1765 01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:52.319 got so many fucking pictures. It has to be over 1766 01:33:52.359 --> 01:33:58.680 in New York. First down, New York. I think you 1767 01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:05.279 understand what New York means to me. I'm sorry, dad, 1768 01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:09.119 we stopped speaking with a stupid fucking accident from New York. 1769 01:34:10.239 --> 01:34:14.199 Stop being a bitch. Did you do it? 1770 01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:17.840 Did you go up to the promoter and say, why 1771 01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:20.760 are you fucking with me? His sid wants to know 1772 01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:22.359 if he's gonna get booked again so we could do 1773 01:34:22.399 --> 01:34:23.359 it again, So we. 1774 01:34:23.359 --> 01:34:26.680 Can do it again. This guy keep this game going on. 1775 01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.439 I don't know, Erica, you have to fly my girlfriend 1776 01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:35.359 over and all right, fine, I don't know. He keeps going. 1777 01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:38.119 I'm gonna say, here's the thing. Now, I lost my 1778 01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:42.000 wallet stolen. That's what happened. I was going in Delhi. 1779 01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:45.640 I was getting a package of bubble gum. Oh, I'm sorry, man, 1780 01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:51.880 I don't know what happened. I got my package of 1781 01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:55.479 bubble cow and okay, and how to go from there? Said? 1782 01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:57.920 Tell me the exact story about how you lost your wallet. 1783 01:34:57.960 --> 01:35:00.840 I really want to lose like a stolen God comp 1784 01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:03.279 me with a gun behind my head, Oh, he said Sid, 1785 01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:06.920 He said, Sid, give me your fucking wallet. He knew 1786 01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:09.479 you by name. Huh And what am I supposed to do? 1787 01:35:10.439 --> 01:35:10.560 Oh? 1788 01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:11.880 My god, gun back my head. 1789 01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:13.840 So if this happens, said, I'd imagine if I called 1790 01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:15.279 Memphis police, they would confirm it. 1791 01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:18.399 Right, you can call anybody you want, they'll confirm me. 1792 01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:19.680 Ha ha ha. 1793 01:35:21.239 --> 01:35:23.119 And at the end he goes, so, just just so 1794 01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:25.880 we are on the same page, Eric, who are you 1795 01:35:25.880 --> 01:35:28.399 gonna call? And like before he calls him, Sid calls him, 1796 01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:29.640 you'd listen to me right now. 1797 01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:32.439 They listen to me right now. I want you to 1798 01:35:32.479 --> 01:35:36.479 understand something you make that call, bad things gonna happen. 1799 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:40.640 You can call anybody you want and they'll confirm it. 1800 01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:42.880 But I'll tell you one thing. If you make those calls, 1801 01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:49.319 bad things are gonna happen. So okay, let's go back 1802 01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:51.119 to the story. Then said, I won't call anybody. I'll 1803 01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:52.760 take your word for it. I mean, you've been missed 1804 01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:54.800 an upfront with us. So a guy just walked up 1805 01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:56.520 this mus have been horrifying. You guys walked up to 1806 01:35:56.560 --> 01:35:58.359 you and what stuck a gun in your back or something? 1807 01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:02.680 Going to tell you were struck a gun. That's called 1808 01:36:02.680 --> 01:36:07.000 Franklin on your business. What happened was he struck a 1809 01:36:07.039 --> 01:36:11.479 gun and he said, sid, I'm taking your wallet. It 1810 01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:14.960 is so funny that he refuses to specify where the 1811 01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:19.439 gun was, like like, that's like that's something to withhold. 1812 01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:24.119 There's any reason whatsoever to make that the the withheld detail, 1813 01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:28.079 like and there's no way you know, and it's like nothing, 1814 01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:30.680 you know, you can say whatever he wanted to exactly. 1815 01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:33.960 That's what I mean. It's all he gets a risk 1816 01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:37.159 to tell the truth about that. It's okay. 1817 01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:38.680 And then what happened He put the gun and then 1818 01:36:38.680 --> 01:36:39.720 you just gave him your wallet. 1819 01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:42.199 He put the gun because he say he's gonna shoot me. 1820 01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:43.319 Now. 1821 01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:45.039 I don't know about you, but I don't know if 1822 01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:47.439 you've ever been threatened not that before, but I have. 1823 01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:51.840 And I got a broken leg and I don't have 1824 01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:55.119 what I had when I was younger because my leg 1825 01:36:55.279 --> 01:36:59.439 snapped in half. And so I said, he knew what 1826 01:36:59.800 --> 01:37:02.239 I didn't want. There are other people in the deli, 1827 01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:06.760 people eating food. I said, I'm looking. I'm not going 1828 01:37:06.840 --> 01:37:11.880 to risk the safety of others. And they're all looking. 1829 01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:14.319 They all saw the gun in my back right? Oh true? 1830 01:37:14.359 --> 01:37:17.199 Oh what was your back? Okay, behind me? Thanks for 1831 01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:19.560 confirming that I was wondering. They said, I didn't say 1832 01:37:19.600 --> 01:37:22.159 my back, Yes you did, I said in back of me. 1833 01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:24.960 Oh you said in your back in my back of me? 1834 01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:30.840 Oh okay, Sorry, I must have been heard somehow. I 1835 01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:32.600 always find myself doing that when I'm on the phone 1836 01:37:32.600 --> 01:37:40.520 with you. And then what you don't understand, and what 1837 01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:46.199 you don't know is that there were three others. Oh okay, 1838 01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:48.359 so this is is more to this than I thought. 1839 01:37:48.359 --> 01:37:53.920 What happens? Then you had three people guns aiming everywhere 1840 01:37:54.680 --> 01:37:57.640 different parts of my body. They repelled from the ceiling 1841 01:37:57.760 --> 01:38:04.680 like the cops and Christmas vacation when he and suddenly 1842 01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:12.800 the whole the whole day was surrounded by guns. And 1843 01:38:12.880 --> 01:38:16.560 so I was forced be on a shadow of doubt, 1844 01:38:18.359 --> 01:38:23.800 hand over my wallet on my identification, and now I 1845 01:38:23.960 --> 01:38:28.560 have to spend the next day casting credit cards and 1846 01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:37.560 castling my library card. Yeah, I guess God fed the 1847 01:38:37.640 --> 01:38:41.199 thieves take out a fucking you know Pardi Boys novel. 1848 01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:43.039 I'd say, I'm want to you right now, I'm gonna 1849 01:38:43.079 --> 01:38:45.880 tell you something real simple. I'm not gonna be paying 1850 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:47.840 fines for someone else taking the library cards. That's my 1851 01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:48.680 name exactly. 1852 01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:52.119 That's how he's been victimized by that before. It's not 1853 01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:59.479 gonna happen again, he said. He said, taking library cards out. 1854 01:38:59.319 --> 01:39:00.479 With my name not book. 1855 01:39:02.199 --> 01:39:15.800 Said, Oh, well, you know, Sid, I'm glad we talked 1856 01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:17.880 it out because at the end of the day, I'm 1857 01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:19.600 frustrated that you're not here. But it sounds like you 1858 01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:20.520 did the honorable thing. 1859 01:39:26.359 --> 01:39:32.119 You fuck with me, great response, he sniffs. He sniffs 1860 01:39:32.159 --> 01:39:35.399 an opportunity to turn it around, because right because if 1861 01:39:35.399 --> 01:39:38.159 he takes this chance to make it like like he's 1862 01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:40.520 like he's been offended, then like he he can just 1863 01:39:40.560 --> 01:39:43.600 talk his way around any further inquiry about, you know, 1864 01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:48.239 the betrayal. That's tremendous stuff. He would totally do that. 1865 01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:51.359 I'm insulted. At the end of the day, I'm insulted, 1866 01:39:52.039 --> 01:39:54.399 and I'm wondering why he's doing this to me. Why 1867 01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:55.800 do I have to get in all this detail with you? 1868 01:39:55.880 --> 01:39:58.800 What entitles you to this level of details? If I 1869 01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:02.479 prove my ID, have I not been thrown enough. Have 1870 01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:04.479 I not? Have I not just give you my word 1871 01:40:04.520 --> 01:40:09.319 every time? Do is my word mean nothing? What is 1872 01:40:09.359 --> 01:40:13.520 it about you? Oh mm hmm? What it's about you? 1873 01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:18.640 In trust? Yeah? I'm a good Christian. I'm a good 1874 01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:23.720 Christian man. I do things the way God intended. And 1875 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:27.680 what a God intend for you? Right, I'm more importantly 1876 01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:32.319 what a God intend for me to do? You you want 1877 01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:35.720 me come New York? If you want me to come here, 1878 01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:38.439 I'll do that right now, and I will break things. 1879 01:40:39.960 --> 01:40:44.079 Send me your address, send me your address, send where 1880 01:40:44.159 --> 01:40:45.680 you live. I'll fuck you up. 1881 01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:49.159 Oh ship, He's not he's he's not even like being, 1882 01:40:50.199 --> 01:40:52.840 you know, ephimistic about it anymore. He's just saying he's 1883 01:40:52.840 --> 01:40:55.800 gonna fuck you up. Call the cops, go ahead, do it. 1884 01:40:56.359 --> 01:41:00.840 You want to call police on me, fine, I won't. 1885 01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:03.960 Show up right and I'll tell him I was just 1886 01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:06.439 a gunpoint and two hours ago, and this guy's give 1887 01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:07.119 me a hard time. 1888 01:41:07.199 --> 01:41:09.039 I want to say this. I told this guy exactly 1889 01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:11.880 what happened. I told him now. I was a gunpoint by. 1890 01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:14.039 Eighty men, and I saved all those lives in that deli, 1891 01:41:14.199 --> 01:41:15.560 And now you're coming around trying. 1892 01:41:15.359 --> 01:41:20.239 To I'm a Goddamn, he wrote, this guy's giving me 1893 01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:20.840 a hard time. 1894 01:41:23.439 --> 01:41:23.520 Now. 1895 01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:25.079 I don't know what kind of stress this man's ever 1896 01:41:25.079 --> 01:41:29.359 been under, but I doubt I doubt he's ever had 1897 01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:32.880 a gun. Let a litone eighty guns aimed at it, 1898 01:41:33.039 --> 01:41:37.359 at various parts of his body. Eighty start counting one, 1899 01:41:37.479 --> 01:41:39.439 two and get to eighty, and then so many guns 1900 01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:43.319 there are. I mean, like your entire body would be 1901 01:41:43.319 --> 01:41:49.159 covered with like fifteen, you know, let alone eighty. Just 1902 01:41:49.279 --> 01:41:52.199 and all those people bring all that firepowers, they could 1903 01:41:52.199 --> 01:41:56.600 dig one guy's wallet exactly because they know exactly who 1904 01:41:56.640 --> 01:42:02.239 wa it was. They knew then he knows sids wallet, 1905 01:42:03.239 --> 01:42:08.199 and they knew that Sid's wallet rules the world. And 1906 01:42:08.319 --> 01:42:10.479 before I got hit in the head with a shot, 1907 01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:14.680 I handed it over and I wouldn't going to let 1908 01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:16.000 my head be hit with a shot. 1909 01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:19.640 You heard in that story and that email from the promoter, 1910 01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:22.399 that part of the gig was that Sid was to 1911 01:42:22.439 --> 01:42:24.920 do a taping for k Fabe Commentaries. He has never 1912 01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:26.840 done a shoot interview for that outfit. He's done some, 1913 01:42:27.279 --> 01:42:30.279 as we mentioned for our video and Hannibal and Sean Oliver, 1914 01:42:30.359 --> 01:42:33.439 of course, was the proprietor and creator of k fape 1915 01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:37.479 commentaries these days co hosts Kevin Nash's podcast, and he 1916 01:42:37.560 --> 01:42:39.640 did a book which is actually a pretty terrific little 1917 01:42:39.640 --> 01:42:43.600 book about putting together a shoot interview, a wrestling shoot, interview, business, 1918 01:42:43.720 --> 01:42:45.079 DVD mail order business. 1919 01:42:45.439 --> 01:42:46.840 It's amazing and how. 1920 01:42:46.720 --> 01:42:50.119 Many, uh, how many wild and crazy stories you have 1921 01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:51.600 trying to corral these carnies. 1922 01:42:51.680 --> 01:42:53.880 For sure, I can imagine, Oh my. 1923 01:42:53.800 --> 01:42:58.199 God, and that it's called k fabe stories you're not 1924 01:42:58.199 --> 01:43:00.560 supposed to hear from a pro wrestling production cony owner. 1925 01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:05.880 And he talks about this moment with Sid. We also, 1926 01:43:05.880 --> 01:43:07.600 I'm not going to do this accent. I could try it. 1927 01:43:07.960 --> 01:43:10.520 We also had an episode of Breaking Kfabe Ready to 1928 01:43:10.560 --> 01:43:14.439 Go for Sid Vicious If you remember, that series focuses 1929 01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:16.960 on the people behind the wrestling personas a large part 1930 01:43:16.960 --> 01:43:19.079 of Sid's show was written to focus on the pervasive 1931 01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:23.720 notion that Sid was problematic to hire. From a talent standpoint, 1932 01:43:23.760 --> 01:43:26.279 Sid was a test tube pro wrestler. He had the 1933 01:43:26.279 --> 01:43:30.119 perfect look. He was huge, chiseled monster. His promos, while 1934 01:43:30.119 --> 01:43:33.359 sometimes clumsy, were loaded with intensity. According to the Checklist, 1935 01:43:33.399 --> 01:43:35.159 Sid should have been one of the biggest stars ever 1936 01:43:35.359 --> 01:43:37.920 and should have worked far longer than he did. Sid's 1937 01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:40.680 great look and intensity aside, he began to be seen 1938 01:43:40.680 --> 01:43:45.000 as unreliable. He reportedly no showed gigs. He has lost 1939 01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:47.600 dates during softball season due to his passion for the sport. 1940 01:43:48.199 --> 01:43:50.399 When the hell is? When the hell is softball season? 1941 01:43:50.479 --> 01:43:52.479 Great question? It's a good question. 1942 01:43:52.840 --> 01:43:55.079 Sid had done to shoot. This is a great question. 1943 01:43:55.359 --> 01:43:57.640 Sid had done to shoot interview with another company before, 1944 01:43:57.720 --> 01:44:01.319 but outside some podcasts, not appeared on a shoot program 1945 01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:03.159 in some time. We thought this would be a good 1946 01:44:03.199 --> 01:44:05.720 get for us, but talking about the upcoming booking was 1947 01:44:05.720 --> 01:44:09.239 always accompanied by a disclaimer about the great possibility that 1948 01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:13.239 this wouldn't happen. I'm always one to give someone the 1949 01:44:13.279 --> 01:44:14.239 benefit of the doubt. 1950 01:44:14.319 --> 01:44:15.640 Now I want to tell you some right now. The 1951 01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:17.840 one thing I can promise you is that this may 1952 01:44:17.880 --> 01:44:18.399 not happen. 1953 01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:21.159 Yeah, that is a promise it is prepared to make, 1954 01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:25.960 can confirm. So through the frivolity, we pressed on and 1955 01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:29.560 were ready to go. The suite was booked, contractors hired, 1956 01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:32.960 show written, and my soup pressed and in the garment bag. 1957 01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:35.600 Around eleven am on the day we were to shoot, 1958 01:44:36.079 --> 01:44:38.359 I got a text from another shoot producer letting me 1959 01:44:38.439 --> 01:44:40.880 know as a courtesy that he heard Sid was not 1960 01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:41.680 on the plane. 1961 01:44:42.119 --> 01:44:42.560 Wow. 1962 01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:45.319 I immediately texted the promoter through whom we booked Sid. 1963 01:44:45.560 --> 01:44:47.640 He said he didn't have details yet, he'd get back 1964 01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:50.199 to me. Well, that's sure, a shit didn't sound like 1965 01:44:50.279 --> 01:44:52.159 Sid's on the flight, and we'll be here in a 1966 01:44:52.159 --> 01:44:55.560 couple of hours. I waited impatiently for the promoter who 1967 01:44:55.600 --> 01:44:58.319 had Sid advertised to headline two days of shows for 1968 01:44:58.359 --> 01:45:00.960 his company to call with news. He got back to 1969 01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:04.439 me with the inevitable and an explanation from Sid. Mister 1970 01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:08.399 Vicious would not be boarding a flight that day. 1971 01:45:10.399 --> 01:45:17.840 He did not be. That's right, and damn right. 1972 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:21.159 Seems he lost his wallet at the airport and wouldn't 1973 01:45:21.159 --> 01:45:24.279 be able to fly. I was because this this was lost. 1974 01:45:24.039 --> 01:45:26.279 At the airport. God loss at the airport. 1975 01:45:26.079 --> 01:45:29.399 That one's coming to, not that morning, not two hours 1976 01:45:29.399 --> 01:45:31.720 from then, and I guess not at all. He had 1977 01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:34.279 to get right to work finding the wallet and straightening 1978 01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:38.399 up the ramifications of its loss. Our loss was negligible. 1979 01:45:38.560 --> 01:45:41.319 We didn't pay anything. I canceled the suite, told our 1980 01:45:41.319 --> 01:45:43.640 contractors there was no payday that weekend, and scratched the 1981 01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:47.039 show from the release calendar. No Loss really just no. 1982 01:45:47.119 --> 01:46:04.359 Sid a laptand wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows 1983 01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:22.439 the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's 1984 01:46:22.520 --> 01:46:26.159 the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack N. Carn Seo, 1985 01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:27.560 MJP Soro. 1986 01:46:28.239 --> 01:46:30.880 Wow, so I think we have our working title No 1987 01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:36.199 Loss really just knows it And now no No maybe 1988 01:46:36.199 --> 01:46:38.279 he started to get all shady about these indie shots 1989 01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:43.840 because WWE was actually suddenly like actually entertaining, bringing him 1990 01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:47.039 in for the first time after all these years as 1991 01:46:47.079 --> 01:46:52.039 part of the Raw one thousand festivities we've been talking about. 1992 01:46:52.399 --> 01:46:54.199 I'm going to provide you boss with a link and 1993 01:46:54.279 --> 01:46:56.760 anybody out there in the Solar system can find the 1994 01:46:56.840 --> 01:46:59.840 same file this on YouTube. There's a couple of versions 1995 01:46:59.840 --> 01:47:04.600 of this. One is clearly transferred over from the actual broadcast. 1996 01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:09.640 It's not the WWE YouTube account one, which is you know, 1997 01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:12.479 much better quality. However, that cuts out a lot of 1998 01:47:12.479 --> 01:47:15.199 important things sure from the segment. So this is going 1999 01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:16.800 to kind of set the table of how ww was 2000 01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:19.239 bringing any guys of Sid's vintage around this time to 2001 01:47:19.279 --> 01:47:22.119 commemorate Raw one thousand and using Heath Slater as kind 2002 01:47:22.119 --> 01:47:24.039 of the mouthpiece that would talk it up and then 2003 01:47:24.079 --> 01:47:27.079 get beat down, And here it is, after all those years, 2004 01:47:27.439 --> 01:47:29.920 and after it seems such a such a dead issue 2005 01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:33.479 with the injury and everything. Sid returns to the WW 2006 01:47:33.600 --> 01:47:37.319 spotlight one more time. The video is Heath's Slater versus Psycho. 2007 01:47:37.399 --> 01:47:40.520 Sid return in parenthesis and Boss, when you have it up, 2008 01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:40.960 let me know. 2009 01:47:41.479 --> 01:47:45.159 I'm ready. All right, let's let it roll in three 2010 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:47.119 to one play. 2011 01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:51.159 Cooperstars for the past are maybe their return two weeks ago? 2012 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:54.119 Who would ever forget the appearance by the well, the 2013 01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:55.640 mask on No, it is. 2014 01:47:55.760 --> 01:47:59.119 Vader, Look at Vader, look at him by the door 2015 01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:02.960 going up with a nag Vander Ball. And then last 2016 01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:07.239 week it was the Sad Sack Foley. It calls sad Sack. Yeah, 2017 01:48:07.319 --> 01:48:10.720 they got called to call him sad Sack. And then 2018 01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:12.920 he called Roddy Piper decrepit. 2019 01:48:12.920 --> 01:48:16.720 Hor Everybody love seeing the hot Rod back in action. 2020 01:48:19.319 --> 01:48:25.079 Probably not another superstar who we're told man Veal Ganda battle. 2021 01:48:25.720 --> 01:48:28.199 A superstar who hasn't been on Raw in fifteen years. 2022 01:48:28.199 --> 01:48:29.520 As we go to break, we Come Back. 2023 01:48:29.479 --> 01:48:34.359 Contest features a former Raw main eventnor It's the Honor 2024 01:48:34.479 --> 01:48:38.520 The one thousand episode of Monday Night Raw, July twenty third, 2025 01:48:38.920 --> 01:48:43.119 please welcome former two times. 2026 01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:46.960 I love this guy. What do you love about this 2027 01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:49.119 guy who's the one man of rock Bad. He's like, 2028 01:48:49.319 --> 01:48:54.479 oh god, the guy, the guy that seems to. 2029 01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:57.800 Think that all our horler raw Man should be put out. 2030 01:48:57.720 --> 01:49:01.239 The fast and stated what a goof not like the 2031 01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:07.640 great saying boys instrument, crowd's going nuts. 2032 01:49:08.960 --> 01:49:13.039 This was during Michael Cole's healed Yes, Yes, that's I 2033 01:49:13.079 --> 01:49:15.680 keep saying. It's why he keeps degrading the legends and 2034 01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:19.560 they always can hide behind you know him being it's 2035 01:49:19.640 --> 01:49:20.920 just a heel. 2036 01:49:22.319 --> 01:49:28.319 Say that Piper is a pitch exactly. Say you're seeing 2037 01:49:28.439 --> 01:49:29.239 like a bird. 2038 01:49:30.199 --> 01:49:30.960 Like a vulture. 2039 01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:39.600 Cindy Lauper there, Yeah, Wendy Richter and Wendy Richter then 2040 01:49:39.680 --> 01:49:42.439 brought back Wendy, you think all these all these former 2041 01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:45.880 RAW appearance Yeah, Wendy meant so much to Raw, didn't. 2042 01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:48.800 She said earlier he was pretty as a picture. 2043 01:49:49.039 --> 01:49:52.640 So Cindy Lapper framed him an autograph picture one man, Ye, 2044 01:49:58.119 --> 01:50:01.399 look at his hair? What Vader. 2045 01:50:02.520 --> 01:50:09.359 I don't care your Roddy Piper thinks about me. Yeah, 2046 01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:18.800 I am one of the top superstars on RAW. I 2047 01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:21.920 am He's Slater. 2048 01:50:23.279 --> 01:50:25.920 And ah rule the world. 2049 01:50:26.439 --> 01:50:32.960 Oh boy, oh man, I said, ah, because I miss 2050 01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:33.840 a music cue. 2051 01:50:36.199 --> 01:50:39.600 Whoa wait just a minute, look at this. 2052 01:50:39.960 --> 01:50:43.920 Describe what you see, please, Oh my god, Peter, it 2053 01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:49.239 comes out. He's got jeans, he's wearing a vest, He's 2054 01:50:49.239 --> 01:50:53.119 got knee pads over his jeans. He looks like an 2055 01:50:53.159 --> 01:50:56.359 eighty year old man. He get into year old man. 2056 01:50:56.439 --> 01:51:02.439 Let me like like that. Terry Funk looks younger than him. 2057 01:51:02.760 --> 01:51:05.760 He used to call himself two times. I mean, his 2058 01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:11.840 hair is a disaster, just fucking He thinks this is 2059 01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:14.520 the start of a run, and oh, he definitely does. 2060 01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:17.119 He thinks he's getting world titled by everyone's gonna agree 2061 01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:19.920 to take a power bomb and all that. Basic Man 2062 01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:23.640 promised to be a main event with Hulk Hogan wrestle 2063 01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:27.119 Mania teen years later. Michael Cole will call that June nine, 2064 01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:32.359 nineteen ninety seven. I think of July ninth. But you 2065 01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:35.319 know what, they're still fucking going for him. Yep. I 2066 01:51:35.319 --> 01:51:36.640 want you to focus on that too. 2067 01:51:36.760 --> 01:51:39.439 It was part of a million dollar corporation. He won 2068 01:51:39.520 --> 01:51:42.479 his first championship in the nineteen ninety six Survivor. 2069 01:51:42.199 --> 01:51:51.600 Series Dye Jeans. Listen to those people, yep. One man 2070 01:51:51.720 --> 01:51:57.760 shocking throws his open hand on on Heath Slater's throat and. 2071 01:51:57.880 --> 01:52:02.079 Just standing around from West Memphis. 2072 01:52:02.079 --> 01:52:04.199 Oh, he's kicking him. Was it his bad leg though? 2073 01:52:06.520 --> 01:52:09.199 Who sets him on the top rope with a double 2074 01:52:09.239 --> 01:52:11.600 goosele and slaps him. 2075 01:52:11.800 --> 01:52:17.039 Jesus out of the apron. He's doing nothing, He's doing nothing. 2076 01:52:17.439 --> 01:52:20.199 He lifts him up. Oh, the worst spinebuster in the history. 2077 01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:24.840 Just move after move with no nothing in between. Oh, 2078 01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:26.760 he misses the right hand. He goes to the bad 2079 01:52:27.039 --> 01:52:34.199 psychology said false. He's down on all both knees. Oh, 2080 01:52:34.199 --> 01:52:38.840 he's selling all right. He gets up, hells over with 2081 01:52:38.880 --> 01:52:43.239 the clothesline, just takes his head off. It looks like 2082 01:52:43.279 --> 01:52:45.640 an old farmer. He drops a leg. 2083 01:52:46.159 --> 01:52:57.399 Get here, Psycho call spots Patten did release power bomb? 2084 01:52:57.399 --> 01:53:04.680 Thank you? Michael Cole said, oh he did. Look he 2085 01:53:05.199 --> 01:53:09.840 puts his hand on his chest. Oh, he definitely thinks 2086 01:53:09.840 --> 01:53:16.000 he's getting a run. Psycho sick. Is this for deacent? 2087 01:53:16.119 --> 01:53:19.960 Serious tuning? And that man is he looks absolutely spent 2088 01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:23.000 rona celebrator? 2089 01:53:23.039 --> 01:53:24.159 What time this episode? 2090 01:53:24.239 --> 01:53:27.600 And he knocks on the one man rock Man eats lighter. 2091 01:53:27.920 --> 01:53:29.800 Well he's a little older, but. 2092 01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:30.960 He still Psycho. 2093 01:53:36.119 --> 01:53:37.600 I hope he does come over here. 2094 01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:45.359 Hey from Psycho to Beautiful Superstars, Psycho said, Psycho said, still. 2095 01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:47.640 Psycho said, takes me all the way back to what 2096 01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:51.399 great American Bash eighty nine? Yeah, just the sight of him, 2097 01:53:51.439 --> 01:53:53.439 and they can't stop chanting his name even after all 2098 01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:53.960 these years. 2099 01:53:54.600 --> 01:53:55.840 Oh yeah, he looks like a guy. 2100 01:53:56.560 --> 01:53:59.039 He looks like a guy who showed up to complain 2101 01:53:59.119 --> 01:54:00.960 that his property tax bill is too high. 2102 01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:03.720 Oh for sure. Absolutely, he does not look like a 2103 01:54:03.760 --> 01:54:06.760 wrestler anymore. No, he is definitely. 2104 01:54:06.880 --> 01:54:07.119 Yeah. 2105 01:54:07.159 --> 01:54:11.000 He listen, he is upset because he his farm is 2106 01:54:11.039 --> 01:54:15.560 losing money, right, all right, government overreach. Yeah, you know 2107 01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:17.640 he's a guy that says that with a straight face. 2108 01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:20.760 That's that's where he's at in life. And he and 2109 01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:26.399 he and he, you know, he just he just looks 2110 01:54:26.439 --> 01:54:29.520 like a guy who is now just a citizen, you. 2111 01:54:29.399 --> 01:54:34.319 Know, exactly, and he's no longer special. And you know, 2112 01:54:34.319 --> 01:54:37.560 he reflected favorably on the experience he was asked about 2113 01:54:37.600 --> 01:54:39.039 on his podcast, and he said it was fun for 2114 01:54:39.039 --> 01:54:43.399 what it was. He says, I think you know there 2115 01:54:43.439 --> 01:54:44.439 was some indies and they. 2116 01:54:44.359 --> 01:54:46.880 Told me I was going to get a run. I 2117 01:54:46.920 --> 01:54:49.760 don't you know, I don't know exactly what happened, because 2118 01:54:49.760 --> 01:54:51.359 they told me, you know, they said, Sidy, you come 2119 01:54:51.359 --> 01:54:54.720 in here, you win the match. If you win the match, 2120 01:54:55.560 --> 01:54:57.600 he would give you a possible run. I thought the 2121 01:54:57.640 --> 01:54:59.520 phone was going to ring. I was waiting for the 2122 01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:01.199 phone around. It's not a contract or. 2123 01:55:01.239 --> 01:55:03.720 Sid again walking in the door, absolutely refusing to do 2124 01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:09.880 anything but powerbomb one two three, exactly tremendous. Oh, she said, 2125 01:55:09.880 --> 01:55:11.279 I enjoyed it a lot s later. It's a great 2126 01:55:11.279 --> 01:55:12.720 guy to work with, and he made it a totally 2127 01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:13.880 night totally a night off. 2128 01:55:14.720 --> 01:55:16.640 Well he did. He did come back. He came back 2129 01:55:16.680 --> 01:55:19.319 a wrong wrong one thousand. Oh. The show itself, okay, 2130 01:55:19.359 --> 01:55:20.840 do you stand in the ring? I kind of remember this. 2131 01:55:21.119 --> 01:55:24.359 He was reading it here. So on July twenty third, 2132 01:55:24.399 --> 01:55:30.119 he he helped Lita take down Heath Slater, so a 2133 01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:32.640 bunch of them all came out. It was yeah, Sid, 2134 01:55:32.760 --> 01:55:38.960 and I'm looking at the picture now on Wikipedia. Sid Rakishi, Piper, DDP, 2135 01:55:39.680 --> 01:55:45.199 Bob Beckland, Slaughter, Farouk, jbl Animal and Voder. 2136 01:55:45.680 --> 01:55:48.199 It was like an ensemble. Yeah, I remember him being 2137 01:55:48.199 --> 01:55:49.000 in an ensemble scene. 2138 01:55:49.039 --> 01:55:50.479 Now that you say that, I mean he's looking at 2139 01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:52.199 it he's like he just pissed off, and he's not. 2140 01:55:53.079 --> 01:55:54.399 When you look at his face, he looks like a 2141 01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:56.359 complete Oh he's just not even there. It's just a 2142 01:55:56.359 --> 01:55:57.920 background character. It's not what he showed up for. 2143 01:55:57.960 --> 01:56:00.239 He's got to be made a bentner, all right, sole 2144 01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:02.760 focus can't even be in a tag team or stately. 2145 01:56:03.359 --> 01:56:05.359 But yeah, I was just going through matches and that's 2146 01:56:05.399 --> 01:56:05.880 not a match. 2147 01:56:05.960 --> 01:56:09.279 So yeah, that's right. So there he is. 2148 01:56:09.399 --> 01:56:11.039 And you know they asked him once about, you know, 2149 01:56:11.119 --> 01:56:13.399 what he thought about the reception he got in the back. 2150 01:56:13.399 --> 01:56:14.640 He said, you know, it was a really good reception 2151 01:56:14.720 --> 01:56:16.640 in the back. Everybody was real respectful. A couple of 2152 01:56:16.680 --> 01:56:18.880 guys I knew, younger guys they were again said a 2153 01:56:18.880 --> 01:56:20.920 few things. I won't say what, but just really nice 2154 01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:22.640 to hear. I had a lot of respect for those 2155 01:56:22.680 --> 01:56:23.319 guys as well. 2156 01:56:23.399 --> 01:56:25.840 Why he won't say if it's nice to hear, what's wrong? 2157 01:56:26.279 --> 01:56:26.560 What do you? 2158 01:56:26.960 --> 01:56:29.239 I'm just I say that only to illustrate the classicness 2159 01:56:29.279 --> 01:56:31.960 of Sid. Every time he puts his mouth, it's like, oh, okay, 2160 01:56:32.119 --> 01:56:34.520 that was that was actually a pleasant experience and a 2161 01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:35.279 pleasant response. 2162 01:56:35.319 --> 01:56:35.880 All there it is. 2163 01:56:36.319 --> 01:56:38.760 There's the twist at the end, where he was kind 2164 01:56:38.800 --> 01:56:41.319 of aggrieved and somehow it insulted by the whole thing. 2165 01:56:41.880 --> 01:56:43.800 But no, he says it was a good experience all around. 2166 01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:46.399 One thing he did note, though, about the changes in 2167 01:56:46.439 --> 01:56:47.840 the business and the company when he went back for 2168 01:56:47.920 --> 01:56:49.560 this twenty twelve stint, if you want to call it, 2169 01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:52.640 that was that he just couldn't survive in the way 2170 01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:55.720 that everything was set up back then at that time period. 2171 01:56:56.239 --> 01:56:58.359 I think the scriptive part. 2172 01:56:58.399 --> 01:57:01.560 And I was a part of that anniversary show several 2173 01:57:01.640 --> 01:57:04.760 years ago, and man, I'm telling you, everybody's there is unhappy. 2174 01:57:05.199 --> 01:57:05.239 No. 2175 01:57:05.560 --> 01:57:07.720 I remember he Slater, he had to do an interview. 2176 01:57:08.119 --> 01:57:10.039 He woulted to change like one little word. 2177 01:57:10.079 --> 01:57:12.439 And if he would have changed that one word, just 2178 01:57:12.640 --> 01:57:13.920 phrased it a little bit, it would have been a 2179 01:57:13.960 --> 01:57:16.279 better interview. But he was scared to do that because 2180 01:57:16.279 --> 01:57:18.399 he would have got in trouble. Now, if I'd been 2181 01:57:18.439 --> 01:57:20.279 in that spot and it being a live TV I 2182 01:57:20.319 --> 01:57:23.279 would have changed it because I knew I would have 2183 01:57:23.279 --> 01:57:27.159 got myself over a lot of times, like the wwe 2184 01:57:27.960 --> 01:57:31.560 don't have things set up for you, we don't get over, 2185 01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:33.359 And I think that's a big mistake. 2186 01:57:34.079 --> 01:57:35.039 Let the people get over. 2187 01:57:35.119 --> 01:57:35.720 That can get over. 2188 01:57:36.439 --> 01:57:38.840 Oh, he would have just been Wow. He would have 2189 01:57:38.880 --> 01:57:41.159 been such a peach to work with you. When Brian 2190 01:57:41.479 --> 01:57:43.079 Wert's hands on a script or something, you know, it 2191 01:57:43.079 --> 01:57:46.239 would have been just great. I can't imagine why they 2192 01:57:46.239 --> 01:57:51.520 didn't call him. Maybe it was that perspective, or maybe 2193 01:57:51.560 --> 01:57:54.119 it was this. Maybe it was in the shoot interview 2194 01:57:54.159 --> 01:57:57.600 he first did with RF video shortly after leaving WWFN 2195 01:57:57.840 --> 01:58:00.159 in nineteen ninety seven. This is early in nineteen ninety eight. 2196 01:58:00.199 --> 01:58:02.520 He's doing this, and he's flirting with the idea of 2197 01:58:02.920 --> 01:58:06.159 going to WCW and talking about playing both sides off 2198 01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:08.560 of each other, and he would soften this story in 2199 01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:11.920 future shoots and kind of anonymize who it was Boss 2200 01:58:12.079 --> 01:58:14.760 that he pictured conquering when he got to the top 2201 01:58:14.840 --> 01:58:18.079 of one of his famous bleacher runs as parker board workout. 2202 01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:20.760 Let's take a listen to this, and then you tell 2203 01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:24.920 me why after this underwhelming appearance in twenty twelve, maybe 2204 01:58:25.520 --> 01:58:29.279 Sid's phone didn't ring with the two oh three area code. 2205 01:58:29.720 --> 01:58:33.119 I wake up every morning morning Monday through Friday at 2206 01:58:33.159 --> 01:58:36.399 four o'clock and at twoes to five, I'm working out 2207 01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:39.279 my first workout. Then from there I take a shower, 2208 01:58:39.479 --> 01:58:41.600 I go to my second workout and then I run 2209 01:58:41.680 --> 01:58:45.159 bleachers at nine thirty when I top moth foot touches 2210 01:58:45.159 --> 01:58:48.159 at the top of that bleacher. Every time, that's Vince 2211 01:58:49.039 --> 01:58:50.079 in one of these days. 2212 01:58:51.159 --> 01:58:54.560 The same thing about is I'll outlive Vince, and I'll 2213 01:58:54.640 --> 01:58:59.159 outlive I will rustle longer than his ring too, so 2214 01:58:59.800 --> 01:59:01.279 I'll have the last word. 2215 01:59:01.359 --> 01:59:03.119 Either he worked for him again one day and he 2216 01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:06.039 has to bow to me or give in to me, 2217 01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:09.239 or I'll be working working for the other company just 2218 01:59:09.720 --> 01:59:11.720 you know, should more fucking shit on me. 2219 01:59:12.680 --> 01:59:15.960 Then's any response to that? Well, you know the thing 2220 01:59:16.000 --> 01:59:18.119 about Sid is, you know he has been He's an 2221 01:59:18.119 --> 01:59:21.399 exceptional talent. He certainly has had, you know, a lot 2222 01:59:21.439 --> 01:59:23.760 of successes here in the w W. We're proud of 2223 01:59:23.800 --> 01:59:26.039 all the accomplishment accomplishments that he's had. He's may have 2224 01:59:26.079 --> 01:59:30.840 been in WrestleMania twice. He has provided significant uh entertainment 2225 01:59:30.880 --> 01:59:33.920 factors regarding the legacy of Monday Night Raw and the 2226 01:59:34.119 --> 01:59:37.159 history of the w B as a whole. And really, 2227 01:59:37.479 --> 01:59:40.359 when it comes down to it, we see you know, 2228 01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:44.960 Sid as as a legend as somebody who who who 2229 01:59:45.119 --> 01:59:50.159 has who has provided us with years worth of of 2230 01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:57.720 entertaining minutia and uh, and you know, when it comes 2231 01:59:57.760 --> 02:00:01.399 down to it, he just can't cut the mustard. 2232 02:00:02.000 --> 02:00:04.319 He said that he was going to outlive you, and 2233 02:00:04.439 --> 02:00:06.880 that was the solace he told me. The thing about 2234 02:00:06.920 --> 02:00:09.439 that is, you know, sid any update, any update on 2235 02:00:09.520 --> 02:00:13.720 that front. Then as entertainer, you know said at his course, 2236 02:00:13.760 --> 02:00:18.680 an entertainer, And what he does is he provides entertainment. Now, 2237 02:00:19.359 --> 02:00:22.479 if we know something about entertainment, is that entertainment it's 2238 02:00:22.520 --> 02:00:27.600 not real. Entertainment is something that is created to provide 2239 02:00:27.720 --> 02:00:33.119 some sort of emotional response. So what he does is 2240 02:00:33.159 --> 02:00:38.840 he entertains. He does not actually exist. So how can 2241 02:00:39.439 --> 02:00:45.479 somebody who doesn't exist outlive? Vincetick man, I'll tell you what. 2242 02:00:47.760 --> 02:00:52.159 I'll tell you what tell me what. I can guarantee 2243 02:00:52.199 --> 02:00:55.199 you that I will put him in the grave before 2244 02:00:56.520 --> 02:00:58.239 I even remotely begin to die. 2245 02:01:00.279 --> 02:01:01.960 H What happened all that? 2246 02:01:02.159 --> 02:01:02.279 Uh? 2247 02:01:03.840 --> 02:01:06.680 All those kind words at the beginning, that that olive 2248 02:01:06.720 --> 02:01:10.000 branch there, all those nice things you said. 2249 02:01:10.279 --> 02:01:12.279 I don't recall saying nice things. I said facts. 2250 02:01:17.920 --> 02:01:18.119 True. 2251 02:01:18.119 --> 02:01:19.880 I didn't say anything that was embellished. I didn't say 2252 02:01:19.880 --> 02:01:22.760 anything that was that was nice. I simply stated facts 2253 02:01:22.800 --> 02:01:25.000 that he was an entertainer, but he worked for the 2254 02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:27.359 w he had. He had monumental moments. We have things 2255 02:01:27.359 --> 02:01:32.439 that we remember. I didn't say anything that that was nice. 2256 02:01:33.920 --> 02:01:36.880 I dictated facts. How do you see? How do you 2257 02:01:36.920 --> 02:01:38.359 How can you be so confident? I mean, you're a 2258 02:01:38.399 --> 02:01:41.079 lot older than he is that you're not going to 2259 02:01:41.119 --> 02:01:46.159 go to the grave first, because, like I said, I'll 2260 02:01:46.239 --> 02:01:53.039 put him there if I have to. Nobody out lives 2261 02:01:53.079 --> 02:02:05.079 into man. Nobody. Wow, he said. 2262 02:02:05.079 --> 02:02:07.079 When he runs to the top of those bleachers at 2263 02:02:07.079 --> 02:02:09.880 the high school and Marion or wherever and he steps 2264 02:02:09.920 --> 02:02:12.680 on that top rung, he feels like he's stepping on you. 2265 02:02:14.600 --> 02:02:20.439 Any response to that, Well, let's see him try to 2266 02:02:20.479 --> 02:02:24.399 step on me for real, and again we'll see what happens. 2267 02:02:25.680 --> 02:02:28.479 If I'm at the top of the bleachers and he 2268 02:02:28.640 --> 02:02:32.319 comes to step on me, I'm gonna throw him off 2269 02:02:32.359 --> 02:02:32.960 the bleachers. 2270 02:02:39.560 --> 02:02:41.079 It's so basic. 2271 02:02:41.199 --> 02:02:46.119 I'm yeah, I'm gonna throw him off the bleachers. It's 2272 02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:48.479 like he just falls, like he gets hurt, but it's 2273 02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:56.079 not like a not dramatical exactly. It's funny that it 2274 02:02:56.159 --> 02:02:57.920 said hiring a hit man to take you out with 2275 02:02:58.000 --> 02:03:00.279 a bullet to the temple. He hires someone to shove 2276 02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:02.279 you down and you hurt your wrist, and that's it. 2277 02:03:03.319 --> 02:03:07.600 I imagine Vince lying on the bleachers. You're lying there 2278 02:03:07.640 --> 02:03:10.000 waiting for Sid to come up. Gohead, step on me, 2279 02:03:10.079 --> 02:03:15.479 pill nobody such a tough guy. Step on me, Step 2280 02:03:15.560 --> 02:03:15.800 on me. 2281 02:03:16.000 --> 02:03:17.279 Let me ask you a question, Vince. Did he do 2282 02:03:17.399 --> 02:03:18.920 the right thing by phrasing it that way? 2283 02:03:20.279 --> 02:03:23.359 Did he do the right thing? I mean, let me 2284 02:03:23.399 --> 02:03:24.920 ask you this is it'd ever done the right thing? 2285 02:03:25.359 --> 02:03:30.319 Right now? You tell me that he has, I'll show 2286 02:03:30.319 --> 02:03:31.359 you ways that he hasn't. 2287 02:03:32.039 --> 02:03:33.880 He was holding out for a day like when, like 2288 02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:35.960 he said, when you would have to come kiss his ass, 2289 02:03:37.119 --> 02:03:39.119 you have to come beg him to get involved. 2290 02:03:44.039 --> 02:03:51.640 No, I've never had to beg right, I never will 2291 02:03:51.720 --> 02:03:57.159 beg I get pussy just by looking at a woman, 2292 02:03:59.600 --> 02:04:04.399 all right. I see what I want and I get it. 2293 02:04:06.039 --> 02:04:10.039 I don't beg for it. I don't need to, because 2294 02:04:10.079 --> 02:04:13.119 I get what I want, and when I'm done wanting it, 2295 02:04:14.119 --> 02:04:18.560 I throw it away. And I was done wanting Sid 2296 02:04:19.479 --> 02:04:26.439 a long time ago. And it's not my fault that 2297 02:04:26.560 --> 02:04:30.319 that's been the dominant narrative in his own mind ever 2298 02:04:30.359 --> 02:04:34.000 since I let him go. It's funny how the people 2299 02:04:34.880 --> 02:04:38.239 who you throw away always seem to think that we're 2300 02:04:38.279 --> 02:04:40.359 going to need them again out of a boomerang effect, 2301 02:04:40.399 --> 02:04:46.680 isn't it. Pal, I like to watch Sid Sometimes I 2302 02:04:47.319 --> 02:04:51.199 will admit I've had cameras inserted into his house because 2303 02:04:51.199 --> 02:04:54.039 I like to watch him. I like to see how 2304 02:04:54.079 --> 02:04:56.520 he moves. So I to see how he wanders about 2305 02:04:56.560 --> 02:05:00.479 his house, because I know what a discol load. Sure, 2306 02:05:02.039 --> 02:05:04.399 what do you know? Because you know what? Go ahead, 2307 02:05:06.439 --> 02:05:10.239 go ahead, finish some flot only was hanging mm hmm, 2308 02:05:12.479 --> 02:05:23.560 because I know what. Because I know all the different 2309 02:05:23.600 --> 02:05:27.239 places in his house where I could sneak up on him, 2310 02:05:30.720 --> 02:05:36.119 and all the nooks and crannies. I could kill him 2311 02:05:36.119 --> 02:05:48.079 before he even knew he was in his house. Let 2312 02:05:48.079 --> 02:05:51.319 me ask your pal, have you ever heard of roundup? 2313 02:05:54.119 --> 02:05:54.560 Mm hmm. 2314 02:05:58.479 --> 02:06:03.000 So that be a word to the wise. Do not 2315 02:06:03.199 --> 02:06:07.079 go on shooting interviews. Yeah, and say you're gonna outlive 2316 02:06:07.119 --> 02:06:09.680 Vince McMahon. That's how you're gonna win. Last person I 2317 02:06:09.760 --> 02:06:12.760 heard say that Terry funk in the grave. Yeah, I 2318 02:06:12.840 --> 02:06:15.520 bet Stuhart said that. I bet Fritz van Eric said that, 2319 02:06:15.680 --> 02:06:20.600 I bet verne Ganja said that I bet a million people. 2320 02:06:20.600 --> 02:06:23.199 I bet Jim Helwig said that, I bet Bruno. Sim 2321 02:06:23.279 --> 02:06:28.479 Martino said that Superstar buy Graham. You don't bet against 2322 02:06:28.520 --> 02:06:31.000 Satan get in the fucking grand ground. 2323 02:06:31.319 --> 02:06:37.039 All right, you don't bet against Satan. I'll never fucking 2324 02:06:37.079 --> 02:06:39.800 say I'll outlive in sick Man. Fuck No, no, nope, 2325 02:06:41.840 --> 02:06:43.760 got a Why would you want to track that? Juju? 2326 02:06:44.199 --> 02:06:44.279 Ye? 2327 02:06:44.399 --> 02:06:48.960 That is just a horrible situation being Sid for you what, 2328 02:06:49.079 --> 02:06:54.479 I won't outlive VI sick Man? How about that? Just 2329 02:06:54.560 --> 02:06:56.560 so money? That's what it came down to for Sid. 2330 02:06:57.079 --> 02:07:00.880 Yeah, but yeah, after this, not a really a peep 2331 02:07:00.960 --> 02:07:03.199 for years on the indie scene, doesn't work any matches 2332 02:07:03.239 --> 02:07:07.520 for the next several years. He resurfaces in twenty seventeen, however, 2333 02:07:08.880 --> 02:07:12.920 at a tenth anniversary super show in Ottawa for Great 2334 02:07:13.119 --> 02:07:16.720 North Wrestling, where he faces and defeats a wrestler by 2335 02:07:16.760 --> 02:07:19.680 the name of Paul Rosenberg. Now this is significant because 2336 02:07:19.680 --> 02:07:21.479 Paul Rosenberg in his sidekick. I don't know a lot 2337 02:07:21.520 --> 02:07:24.279 about the circuit at that time, but they were doing it. 2338 02:07:24.359 --> 02:07:27.079 Being twenty seventeen, a Trump gimmick where a guy would 2339 02:07:27.079 --> 02:07:28.560 bring a Trump flag out and get a ton of 2340 02:07:28.640 --> 02:07:31.399 heat in Canada for it, and Sid found himself in 2341 02:07:31.439 --> 02:07:33.760 the crosshairs of the politics of the moment. Oh boy, 2342 02:07:34.880 --> 02:07:36.359 and he's out there beating up on the Trump guy 2343 02:07:36.399 --> 02:07:40.920 and getting pops in twenty seventeen in Canada, and god 2344 02:07:41.000 --> 02:07:44.399 damn it. You know we're going to find out we are. 2345 02:07:44.439 --> 02:07:46.079 We're going to find out how much of a problem 2346 02:07:46.720 --> 02:07:50.960 Donald Trump is for w's for Sid? Okay, oh boy, 2347 02:07:51.159 --> 02:07:55.760 because something goes off in his mind. That's a future 2348 02:07:56.920 --> 02:08:00.359 let's just say claim he can stake as as a 2349 02:08:00.399 --> 02:08:03.960 reason for new shows, all right, because what's one of 2350 02:08:04.000 --> 02:08:06.319 the things Trump Trump does. He comes in and he 2351 02:08:06.399 --> 02:08:09.960 makes in and out of the country travel more difficult, 2352 02:08:10.000 --> 02:08:12.560 doesn't he. Of course does that open a vein for 2353 02:08:12.720 --> 02:08:14.439 potential excuses for Sid to just not. 2354 02:08:14.520 --> 02:08:15.079 Know of the flight. 2355 02:08:15.119 --> 02:08:15.800 Oh my god. 2356 02:08:17.119 --> 02:08:19.640 One of the indie promoters that Sid fails to show 2357 02:08:19.720 --> 02:08:22.199 up for suddenly takes to Facebook one day and writes, 2358 02:08:22.359 --> 02:08:24.520 which one of you buttholes told Sid that the owner 2359 02:08:24.520 --> 02:08:27.840 of the promotion is a giant Trumpster. Oh I hope 2360 02:08:27.880 --> 02:08:29.880 you're happy he decided to not get in a plane 2361 02:08:29.960 --> 02:08:33.279 for our friends at another wrestling company, so he won't 2362 02:08:33.279 --> 02:08:35.439 be appearing for us either. We are really disappointed but 2363 02:08:35.520 --> 02:08:37.399 now we can finally say we are like our friends 2364 02:08:37.479 --> 02:08:39.319 in the other company, and we'll get to what company 2365 02:08:39.399 --> 02:08:39.720 that is. 2366 02:08:40.239 --> 02:08:40.760 But it's now. 2367 02:08:42.119 --> 02:08:48.159 It's now and a new playground for Sid. This article 2368 02:08:48.199 --> 02:08:52.840 here by Roger Girinoff apologies for Not Is It Wrestling, Inc. 2369 02:08:53.439 --> 02:08:57.039 From twenty eighteen, Former WW and WW World Heavyweight Champion 2370 02:08:57.079 --> 02:08:59.840 Sid Vicus canceled an appearance at last night's Excite Wrestling event. 2371 02:09:00.239 --> 02:09:02.680 The promotion noted on Facebook last week that Sid canceled 2372 02:09:02.680 --> 02:09:04.680 the booking because the owner of the promotion, Johnny Moose, 2373 02:09:04.720 --> 02:09:04.840 is a. 2374 02:09:04.880 --> 02:09:05.760 Donald Trump supporter. 2375 02:09:11.399 --> 02:09:14.479 Boy Vicious had skipped an I A Double A i 2376 02:09:14.760 --> 02:09:19.680 W show last December, claiming he had travel issues due 2377 02:09:19.720 --> 02:09:26.760 to Trump's travel man. Excite Wrestling followed suit and had 2378 02:09:26.760 --> 02:09:29.039 a wrestler dress up as Sid and deliver a power 2379 02:09:29.119 --> 02:09:29.840 bomb at the show. 2380 02:09:30.359 --> 02:09:33.319 I tried, I said, you know, I will go to 2381 02:09:33.399 --> 02:09:35.680 the airport and all of a sudden, our Don Trump 2382 02:09:35.720 --> 02:09:41.960 ain't letting Sid travel, right, he said, ceut banned from travel, 2383 02:09:47.960 --> 02:09:51.239 Tump Sid beauty travel. 2384 02:09:54.840 --> 02:09:59.239 Well, I'll tell you what. One place, one promotion he 2385 02:09:59.399 --> 02:10:02.119 doesn't have travel very far for is a company called 2386 02:10:02.279 --> 02:10:05.960 MCW based not too far from his home. In the 2387 02:10:06.000 --> 02:10:08.760 beautiful state of Arkansas. So this is a shot that 2388 02:10:08.840 --> 02:10:12.079 Sid could make by car. And so there's no flight 2389 02:10:12.159 --> 02:10:15.800 issues to cite, no flight issues to be concerned about 2390 02:10:15.840 --> 02:10:18.800 or get tripped up on. And it's in this promotion. 2391 02:10:19.840 --> 02:10:21.159 We're going to take a look at it. So I 2392 02:10:21.199 --> 02:10:24.720 don't want to paint a picture for you before you 2393 02:10:24.800 --> 02:10:28.319 get to see it yourself, or boss, I would suggest 2394 02:10:28.399 --> 02:10:30.479 here in the final leg of our Sid tribute, we 2395 02:10:30.640 --> 02:10:33.319 really get that unalloyed Look what it looks like when 2396 02:10:33.399 --> 02:10:35.680 Sid is actually given creative power in the rest of 2397 02:10:35.720 --> 02:10:37.960 the Lord, not just to do a one off gimmick 2398 02:10:38.000 --> 02:10:39.560 here and there. But we've heard that's been a theme, 2399 02:10:39.680 --> 02:10:42.520 right every so often he'll say in an interview, you know, 2400 02:10:42.560 --> 02:10:44.000 I really would have liked to book in the business. 2401 02:10:45.039 --> 02:10:46.800 You know, Bill Wats was going to let me book. 2402 02:10:47.560 --> 02:10:50.760 I created the Colonel Parker character in Harlem Heat and 2403 02:10:50.800 --> 02:10:53.239 all that stuff. And he always tried to give us 2404 02:10:53.319 --> 02:10:55.159 this sense that you know, he actually had a mind 2405 02:10:55.199 --> 02:10:57.039 for the wrestling business and could run a promotion and 2406 02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:00.239 could be a booker one day, and one wonder why 2407 02:11:00.279 --> 02:11:03.000 he was never given the opportunity. You know what, Well, 2408 02:11:03.039 --> 02:11:05.399 he was never given the chance to express his ideas 2409 02:11:05.439 --> 02:11:07.680 and what he would do out there. This is a 2410 02:11:07.760 --> 02:11:11.039 glimpse at what we missed out on by not letting 2411 02:11:11.359 --> 02:11:15.000 book a major promotion all those years, as he discusses 2412 02:11:15.039 --> 02:11:17.199 here in a shoot interview with Hannibal, who had heard 2413 02:11:17.239 --> 02:11:19.439 to the Grapevine that there's a very small, low profile 2414 02:11:19.520 --> 02:11:22.760 indie near Sid's house, that he had started to develop 2415 02:11:22.800 --> 02:11:26.119 a character Sid for the first time since the Lord 2416 02:11:26.199 --> 02:11:33.439 Humongous Day's Bosses not wrestling as Sid, He's wrestling as Israel. 2417 02:11:34.439 --> 02:11:34.600 Ah. 2418 02:11:34.680 --> 02:11:37.079 I'll tell you what it was is I had this 2419 02:11:37.319 --> 02:11:40.159 idea and what it was is a little bit to 2420 02:11:40.239 --> 02:11:43.119 do with this cilly election, you know, And I used 2421 02:11:43.159 --> 02:11:46.920 that too, But no, it's it was just something i'd 2422 02:11:47.000 --> 02:11:49.319 come up with that friend of mine, his name is 2423 02:11:49.439 --> 02:11:52.239 Very Norman. He's a writer, and a guy named Peter Zeil. 2424 02:11:52.560 --> 02:11:55.880 There's a thing called briggs Meyer protocols, Like if you had, 2425 02:11:56.039 --> 02:11:57.920 like in Mon's case, you had a bad leg, where 2426 02:11:57.960 --> 02:11:59.920 they could put a chip in your brain and they 2427 02:12:00.039 --> 02:12:01.840 can pretend, you know, not pretend that you would have 2428 02:12:01.960 --> 02:12:04.760 that pain no longer. Well, we were doing something like that, 2429 02:12:04.840 --> 02:12:07.000 and we was having my buddy Berry sending little clips 2430 02:12:07.600 --> 02:12:11.600 to this place at Ocola mcw to show that we 2431 02:12:11.720 --> 02:12:13.239 were trying that and mayn I'm gonna tell you what 2432 02:12:13.319 --> 02:12:14.920 I didn't do, but just a few weeks of it, 2433 02:12:15.279 --> 02:12:18.000 and the people went crazy for it. I never walked 2434 02:12:18.039 --> 02:12:19.840 into the place. I had so much heat and I 2435 02:12:20.000 --> 02:12:22.319 was a big time babyface there for the last few years. 2436 02:12:22.920 --> 02:12:23.039 Uh. 2437 02:12:23.199 --> 02:12:25.600 But I did what it was I said, I did 2438 02:12:25.640 --> 02:12:28.920 the operation. What it was I said, I told the people. 2439 02:12:28.960 --> 02:12:30.600 I said, and this is while I'm still a babyface, 2440 02:12:30.600 --> 02:12:32.279 I said, don't wact around so anymore. Is I have 2441 02:12:32.399 --> 02:12:35.039 this operation, and I have this operation. I have to 2442 02:12:35.119 --> 02:12:38.439 take science over faith. That means over God. And I 2443 02:12:38.560 --> 02:12:41.880 was gonna call myself Israel. You know when Israel, you know, 2444 02:12:42.000 --> 02:12:43.680 fought with God, had got a bad hip out of 2445 02:12:43.720 --> 02:12:46.439 the deal, remember that, right, Well, I told everybody I 2446 02:12:46.560 --> 02:12:49.239 get God the bad hip, you know, just you know. 2447 02:12:49.399 --> 02:12:51.439 Then I took on a look. It started working that 2448 02:12:51.560 --> 02:12:54.680 I started taking on Donald Trump personality and I would 2449 02:12:54.680 --> 02:12:57.640 take off the hat, my my master, act like Donald 2450 02:12:57.640 --> 02:13:00.319 Trump or talk like that until the you know, some 2451 02:13:00.399 --> 02:13:01.640 of the people to get back in the back of 2452 02:13:01.640 --> 02:13:04.159 the bus, like the Mexican people. There weren't an Americans 2453 02:13:04.199 --> 02:13:07.079 there however, but I would say things like that and 2454 02:13:07.279 --> 02:13:09.319 just you know, I'm the boss, and I bought the 2455 02:13:09.439 --> 02:13:12.119 place and that everybody had game like three more weeks 2456 02:13:12.159 --> 02:13:14.239 and we was gonna shut the doors, and man, I 2457 02:13:14.359 --> 02:13:18.479 had a great time with that character. It's actually one 2458 02:13:18.720 --> 02:13:20.640 I would like to see go to the w W. 2459 02:13:27.840 --> 02:13:29.680 Boss. Does that sound ready for prime time? To you? 2460 02:13:31.399 --> 02:13:35.000 Ramblings of a madman? What he really? He really is 2461 02:13:35.159 --> 02:13:39.119 a fucking coop? What is he talking about? I mean, seriously, 2462 02:13:39.239 --> 02:13:41.319 what did you what did you take from that? I 2463 02:13:41.880 --> 02:13:48.880 don't really know, honestly. I mean he he wants to 2464 02:13:50.560 --> 02:13:51.079 is he a nation? 2465 02:13:53.800 --> 02:13:53.920 Is he? 2466 02:13:54.199 --> 02:13:56.720 Is he representative of that? Is that what he wants 2467 02:13:56.800 --> 02:14:02.840 to do? I don't he's That's the most I don't 2468 02:14:02.840 --> 02:14:05.640 even know what to call that. It's it's beyond insane, 2469 02:14:07.439 --> 02:14:15.760 it's beyond stupid, it's like beyond offensive. It's just it really, 2470 02:14:16.800 --> 02:14:22.760 there is a a there's a category of its own 2471 02:14:23.159 --> 02:14:28.600 that has yet to be invented, and that's where that belongs. 2472 02:14:29.039 --> 02:14:30.840 Would you like to see Israel at action? 2473 02:14:31.319 --> 02:14:31.520 Oh? 2474 02:14:31.800 --> 02:14:32.640 Fuck my life? 2475 02:14:32.800 --> 02:14:35.319 You like to see what this looked like? And a 2476 02:14:35.399 --> 02:14:39.920 promotion called shit mcw is sid finally gets the chance 2477 02:14:40.000 --> 02:14:44.960 to let his creative juices flow. All right, if you 2478 02:14:45.000 --> 02:14:47.520 want to find it on YouTube. Israel aka Psycho Sid 2479 02:14:47.640 --> 02:14:50.640 Vicious twenty seventeen is the title of the video. And 2480 02:14:50.760 --> 02:14:54.039 here we go, all right, three two one. 2481 02:14:54.560 --> 02:14:59.560 Play to the graphic nature of this program, view were 2482 02:14:59.600 --> 02:15:01.039 described advised. 2483 02:15:03.960 --> 02:15:14.039 Look at him? What he lifts the mask? Look at him? 2484 02:15:17.760 --> 02:15:20.640 Look at the intensity. I mean he's walking around like 2485 02:15:20.720 --> 02:15:22.039 an Alzheimer's patient. 2486 02:15:22.800 --> 02:15:23.720 Really he's waving. 2487 02:15:25.159 --> 02:15:28.399 Look at the size of the building. It's like a garage. 2488 02:15:28.720 --> 02:15:32.920 I mean, yeah, seriously, it's I guess this guy is 2489 02:15:32.960 --> 02:15:35.199 the promoter of the owner. I mean he looks like 2490 02:15:35.239 --> 02:15:39.279 a pervert. Sid has one on his shoulders. He's got 2491 02:15:39.479 --> 02:15:43.479 these fucking like uh shoulder pads like pad for what 2492 02:15:44.319 --> 02:15:48.399 no reason? Because he's Israel. Look at that woman in 2493 02:15:48.479 --> 02:15:48.760 the back. 2494 02:15:50.439 --> 02:15:52.479 So the promoter is saying, look, let's put this behind us. 2495 02:15:52.520 --> 02:15:57.600 Our differences and do you think you've seen Sid cut 2496 02:15:57.600 --> 02:15:58.560 great promos before? 2497 02:15:58.640 --> 02:15:58.920 Boss? 2498 02:15:59.279 --> 02:16:01.199 Oh boy, he's the people he was saying, were eating 2499 02:16:01.239 --> 02:16:04.880 it up. By the way, how did him stand there? 2500 02:16:05.760 --> 02:16:06.000 Yep? 2501 02:16:06.720 --> 02:16:07.520 On our side. 2502 02:16:08.920 --> 02:16:12.239 We need him on our side. These people are like 2503 02:16:12.479 --> 02:16:15.039 they're what are there like seventy five people there? 2504 02:16:15.199 --> 02:16:19.600 Probably twenty seriously, maybe like thirty forty people. 2505 02:16:23.319 --> 02:16:26.199 Is that the booker back there on the desk. I 2506 02:16:26.239 --> 02:16:26.479 don't know. 2507 02:16:29.399 --> 02:16:30.520 Let's have started with. 2508 02:16:32.440 --> 02:16:35.639 Let's come to what are you sid? What do you 2509 02:16:35.680 --> 02:16:38.799 think Let's start over again with your football shoulder pats on? 2510 02:16:39.079 --> 02:16:39.319 I know. 2511 02:16:46.079 --> 02:16:51.479 You white last it was buzz gil, No, buzz, don't 2512 02:16:51.520 --> 02:16:52.760 coming back to last week. 2513 02:16:53.360 --> 02:16:56.000 It's all men to doing this. I'll want to turn 2514 02:16:56.079 --> 02:16:56.879 against you people. 2515 02:16:57.360 --> 02:16:58.479 You don't mean too much. 2516 02:17:01.639 --> 02:17:02.000 Anyway. 2517 02:17:02.040 --> 02:17:06.319 I no, guys, really, Oh. 2518 02:17:06.280 --> 02:17:11.239 I just go home and get a haircut. Excuse me, 2519 02:17:12.760 --> 02:17:15.239 get your haircut and do what? Come back and be 2520 02:17:15.360 --> 02:17:22.520 popular again? Oh my god again? Would you all accept 2521 02:17:22.559 --> 02:17:23.399 my friendship again? 2522 02:17:24.479 --> 02:17:36.360 I'm sorry, I mean, guys, I mean, I don't know what. 2523 02:17:39.000 --> 02:17:49.159 Is he doing. I'm sorry he's apologizing, shaking hands with 2524 02:17:49.200 --> 02:17:56.440 the promoter so much ringside here. I'm sorry, you ass 2525 02:17:56.520 --> 02:17:59.399 me to the guy on the desk, he is like 2526 02:17:59.440 --> 02:18:01.440 he's apologized him, and the guy doesn't forgive a ship. 2527 02:18:02.239 --> 02:18:05.559 He's like, why am I here? He's still talking, said, 2528 02:18:05.639 --> 02:18:18.239 still talking Devil's rejects. He has football shoulder pads on 2529 02:18:18.319 --> 02:18:25.680 the whole time. Yeah, and like basically like a you know, 2530 02:18:25.840 --> 02:18:31.760 like uh uh mechanic coveralls with the knacks back. God yea, 2531 02:18:31.840 --> 02:18:39.440 and he puts on the ever. This is the people. 2532 02:18:41.360 --> 02:18:45.520 It wasn't even a fucking axe handle. He's uh he 2533 02:18:45.680 --> 02:18:49.280 like he did. I don't even know what you'd call it. 2534 02:18:49.440 --> 02:18:52.680 Look at the crowd. Oh my god. This there's tables 2535 02:18:52.760 --> 02:18:57.319 with drinks and ship like. This is absolutely atrocious. 2536 02:18:58.200 --> 02:19:04.159 He's lumbering around pretending to attack this old man promoter. 2537 02:19:04.440 --> 02:19:07.280 And the old man fucking pretending to sell no one. 2538 02:19:07.440 --> 02:19:10.040 The crowds just sitting there. I mean some people are screaming, 2539 02:19:10.239 --> 02:19:11.360 but they're just sitting there. 2540 02:19:16.280 --> 02:19:19.879 Some guy came down with a hat and a chair 2541 02:19:20.239 --> 02:19:23.879 or he tell them to sit. I was in a 2542 02:19:23.879 --> 02:19:26.760 baseball bat. Who is that clown? I'm not sure his name. 2543 02:19:27.559 --> 02:19:28.559 It might be Buzzkill. 2544 02:19:30.520 --> 02:19:57.680 And wait a minute, it's not Joe, you understand. 2545 02:20:02.159 --> 02:20:06.000 Look at him, I mean he looks like a complete 2546 02:20:06.399 --> 02:20:13.559 dufus football shoulder pads on yeah. 2547 02:20:15.559 --> 02:20:18.879 Both first he probably also a. 2548 02:20:19.000 --> 02:20:20.559 First or something. 2549 02:20:27.920 --> 02:20:36.399 Piscipalion is already said no reaction. One girl screating, but 2550 02:20:36.440 --> 02:20:38.639 most people are looking at him. The one person screaming 2551 02:20:38.680 --> 02:20:52.959 at him, but I, oh my god, he. 2552 02:20:53.079 --> 02:20:54.920 Said, I'm looking. 2553 02:21:02.479 --> 02:21:10.719 Damn bomb you white fresh trails. 2554 02:21:16.239 --> 02:21:17.239 I said this last. 2555 02:21:17.600 --> 02:21:19.879 I mean, I. 2556 02:21:24.719 --> 02:21:29.680 Okay, it's just lumbering around ringside. 2557 02:21:29.879 --> 02:21:33.559 I mean he's just like a mic has a cord. Oh, 2558 02:21:33.680 --> 02:21:39.879 here comes a guy climbing up a ladder. Look at it. Yeah, 2559 02:21:41.520 --> 02:21:49.719 he's communicating with the Is that it? That's that I'll 2560 02:21:49.760 --> 02:21:51.120 look at there. Go to the go to the kitchen, 2561 02:21:51.200 --> 02:22:01.680 get some food. What are they serving? I want to know. Okay, 2562 02:22:02.120 --> 02:22:05.600 let's never watch that again. I mean, just paint the 2563 02:22:05.639 --> 02:22:09.360 picture for people, I mean place. If it's just he's 2564 02:22:09.440 --> 02:22:12.280 just speaking gibberish, you can't really understand what he's fucking 2565 02:22:12.319 --> 02:22:14.479 said Nucus of the audio. You really, even if you 2566 02:22:14.639 --> 02:22:18.040 I heard everyone said it, it just doesn't make sense. 2567 02:22:18.159 --> 02:22:21.559 Like he just he's just speaking words, and you know, 2568 02:22:21.639 --> 02:22:23.360 and he just stands there like he I don't know, 2569 02:22:23.479 --> 02:22:26.879 I don't know what was attempted to be accomplished. Just there, 2570 02:22:27.319 --> 02:22:29.479 you know, he just stands there and he speaks and 2571 02:22:29.559 --> 02:22:31.879 he he kind of like, you know, he moves. He 2572 02:22:31.920 --> 02:22:36.879 has a very very limited map, all right, like his 2573 02:22:37.440 --> 02:22:44.000 his road. It's a basic kind of you know, right angle. Essentially, 2574 02:22:44.120 --> 02:22:46.959 he goes from the desk of the ring and then 2575 02:22:47.000 --> 02:22:49.600 he comes back down the side to kind of where 2576 02:22:49.639 --> 02:22:51.719 the I guess where the entrance is, and then back 2577 02:22:51.760 --> 02:22:53.440 and forth, like he doesn't walk around the ring and 2578 02:22:53.520 --> 02:22:55.159 like go to everybody. He just kind of stays in 2579 02:22:55.239 --> 02:23:03.879 this warm little corner. He's just walking back to notice that, Well, 2580 02:23:03.879 --> 02:23:07.879 it's because the mic has a cord. He's using a cord. Yeah, 2581 02:23:08.000 --> 02:23:09.440 I guess that's it. I mean you think that that 2582 02:23:09.600 --> 02:23:11.000 in this date and age, you have a cord that 2583 02:23:11.040 --> 02:23:13.959 could run, you know, more than ten feet. 2584 02:23:14.120 --> 02:23:16.760 Again, I want you to picture like being all right, 2585 02:23:16.920 --> 02:23:19.479 seventeen and you're gonna go trick or treating, right, and 2586 02:23:19.559 --> 02:23:22.159 you throw a costume together, you know, because you're way 2587 02:23:22.200 --> 02:23:24.559 too old, and you cover yourself head to toe, long 2588 02:23:24.600 --> 02:23:28.040 sleeve black shirt with black gloves, black like you're wearing. 2589 02:23:28.120 --> 02:23:29.920 You wear black coveralls, is what you're doing. 2590 02:23:30.000 --> 02:23:33.360 And then he puts NFL shoulder pads on and they 2591 02:23:33.399 --> 02:23:36.159 look like they're like a youth small. Yeah, they're like 2592 02:23:36.280 --> 02:23:38.719 why definitely not his side there they do? You know, 2593 02:23:38.840 --> 02:23:40.879 Usually you put shoulder pads on and you can see 2594 02:23:40.920 --> 02:23:45.079 that they enhance the shoulders and these do not. And 2595 02:23:45.360 --> 02:23:49.799 he's got the Jason mask on, a hockey mask, and 2596 02:23:49.879 --> 02:23:51.760 he's just standing there and he's a big. 2597 02:23:51.879 --> 02:23:55.520 Oh fu a big. He's a big, He's a big lug. 2598 02:23:55.760 --> 02:23:57.959 It's not scary at all. And when he tries it, 2599 02:23:58.120 --> 02:24:01.360 and again he doesn't. He doesn't even fucking I mean, 2600 02:24:01.479 --> 02:24:05.079 I you know, he doesn't even He just kind of 2601 02:24:05.120 --> 02:24:07.920 talks like Sid. He doesn't. He doesn't, you know, he 2602 02:24:07.959 --> 02:24:14.239 doesn't like actually talk like a nation or or a 2603 02:24:14.399 --> 02:24:16.760 you know. I mean, I'm looking at the description here 2604 02:24:16.840 --> 02:24:21.319 under the YouTube video says he who wrestles with God. Yes, 2605 02:24:21.399 --> 02:24:25.600 that's Israel, which like he just like Sid. 2606 02:24:27.040 --> 02:24:29.440 Who wrestles with God, but talks like Sid Udy from 2607 02:24:29.479 --> 02:24:35.479 here exactly, And yeah, he thinks this is ww ready 2608 02:24:35.639 --> 02:24:38.399 And now that you watch that, Okay, now that you 2609 02:24:38.479 --> 02:24:43.840 have just listen back to this and just realize that's 2610 02:24:43.840 --> 02:24:44.639 what he's talking about. 2611 02:24:44.879 --> 02:24:47.920 I'll tell you what it was is I had this idea, 2612 02:24:48.600 --> 02:24:50.479 and what it was is a little bit to do 2613 02:24:50.600 --> 02:24:53.680 with this cilly election, you know, and I use that too, 2614 02:24:53.799 --> 02:24:57.559 but no, it's it was just something i'd come up 2615 02:24:57.639 --> 02:25:00.000 with that friend of mine. His being is very normal 2616 02:25:00.000 --> 02:25:02.440 when he's a writer and a guy named Peter Zel. 2617 02:25:02.760 --> 02:25:06.079 There's a thing called briggs Meyer protocols. Like if you had, 2618 02:25:06.239 --> 02:25:08.120 like in my case, you had a bad leg where 2619 02:25:08.120 --> 02:25:10.120 they can put a chip in your brain and they 2620 02:25:10.200 --> 02:25:12.040 can pretend, you know, not pretend that you would have 2621 02:25:12.159 --> 02:25:14.959 that pain no longer. Well, we were doing something like that, 2622 02:25:15.040 --> 02:25:17.200 and we was having my buddy Berry sending little clips 2623 02:25:17.799 --> 02:25:21.799 to this place at Ocola mcw to show that we 2624 02:25:21.920 --> 02:25:23.440 were trying that. And mayn I'm gonna tell you what 2625 02:25:23.520 --> 02:25:25.079 I didn't do but just a few weeks of it, 2626 02:25:25.479 --> 02:25:28.200 and then people went crazy for it. I never walked 2627 02:25:28.239 --> 02:25:30.000 into the place. I had so much heat, and I 2628 02:25:30.120 --> 02:25:32.520 got a big time babyface there for the last few years. 2629 02:25:33.079 --> 02:25:34.879 Uh, But I did what it was. 2630 02:25:35.000 --> 02:25:38.479 I said, I did the operation. What it was I said, 2631 02:25:38.520 --> 02:25:40.000 I told the people. I said, And this is while 2632 02:25:40.000 --> 02:25:41.799 I'm still a baby face, I said, don't wact around 2633 02:25:41.799 --> 02:25:43.959 so anymore. Is I have this operation, and I have 2634 02:25:44.079 --> 02:25:47.239 this operation, I'd have to take science over faith. That 2635 02:25:47.360 --> 02:25:50.360 means over God. And I was gonna call myself Israel. 2636 02:25:50.879 --> 02:25:52.920 You know when Israel, you know, fought with God, he 2637 02:25:53.000 --> 02:25:55.879 got a bad hip out of the deal, remember that, Yeah, right, Well, 2638 02:25:55.920 --> 02:25:58.360 I told everybody I get God the bad hip, you know, 2639 02:25:59.000 --> 02:26:01.559 just you know, then not took on it started working, 2640 02:26:01.600 --> 02:26:04.840 that started taking on Donald Trump personality, and I would 2641 02:26:04.879 --> 02:26:07.840 take off the hat, my my masters, act like Donald 2642 02:26:07.840 --> 02:26:10.600 Trump or talk like that until you know, some of 2643 02:26:10.639 --> 02:26:12.120 the people to get back in the back of the bus, 2644 02:26:12.239 --> 02:26:15.719 like the Mexican people. They weren't even there, however, but 2645 02:26:15.760 --> 02:26:17.760 I would say things like that, and just you know, 2646 02:26:17.799 --> 02:26:20.120 I'm the boss, and I bought the place, and that 2647 02:26:20.239 --> 02:26:22.479 everybody had that game like three more weeks and we 2648 02:26:22.600 --> 02:26:24.760 was gonna shut the doors. And man, I had a 2649 02:26:24.840 --> 02:26:29.239 great time with that character. It's actually one I would 2650 02:26:29.360 --> 02:26:31.479 like to see. Go to the WWE. 2651 02:26:32.520 --> 02:26:48.399 Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys 2652 02:26:48.559 --> 02:27:06.600 need their candy. It's the Lampsed Fan. He's a lapsed 2653 02:27:06.639 --> 02:27:11.120 fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Jo. 2654 02:27:11.680 --> 02:27:13.360 I mean, I'm glad he had fun with it. I 2655 02:27:13.440 --> 02:27:20.760 guess I that was a character. I mean, he just 2656 02:27:20.799 --> 02:27:21.520 stood there. 2657 02:27:22.840 --> 02:27:26.040 With none of the personality. He had his sid and 2658 02:27:27.239 --> 02:27:33.719 right his face is stone faced, monotone, and he's walking 2659 02:27:33.760 --> 02:27:36.440 around and he's pivoting at the hip and looking at 2660 02:27:36.479 --> 02:27:39.840 the people, and he's got a kid's shoulder pads on 2661 02:27:39.959 --> 02:27:41.799 the whole time, and. 2662 02:27:42.280 --> 02:27:46.920 He's just I mean, listen, the only heat that was 2663 02:27:47.000 --> 02:27:51.879 in that building was coming from the kitchen. And the 2664 02:27:51.959 --> 02:27:55.000 hush puppies. They were bringing out exactly the locals on 2665 02:27:55.079 --> 02:27:57.920 a Friday night, right, and he had nothing to do 2666 02:27:58.920 --> 02:28:01.719 with sid Uh. You know, at the end of all this, 2667 02:28:02.159 --> 02:28:09.000 my excuse me, you want to be disrespectful the nation of. 2668 02:28:12.680 --> 02:28:12.840 You know. 2669 02:28:13.920 --> 02:28:15.799 I just can't believe we lost out on this guy 2670 02:28:15.920 --> 02:28:18.360 getting a chance to let his creative juices flow in 2671 02:28:18.440 --> 02:28:20.680 the big leagues. I don't know how this guy didn't 2672 02:28:20.680 --> 02:28:22.399 earn a spot on a creative team somewhere. 2673 02:28:22.719 --> 02:28:24.680 I want to tell you something, Vince, I got an idea. 2674 02:28:25.159 --> 02:28:27.520 No way, yeah, all right, I'm gonna hit mute. Said, 2675 02:28:28.520 --> 02:28:29.000 you go ahead. 2676 02:28:29.040 --> 02:28:29.600 You just let me know. 2677 02:28:29.680 --> 02:28:34.239 Tell me what your idea is. I want to be 2678 02:28:34.319 --> 02:28:42.440 a people. Excuse me, I want to be a people. Well, 2679 02:28:43.319 --> 02:28:46.120 you are a person, said, you're a person? You are 2680 02:28:46.280 --> 02:28:51.120 of people? No, I want to be a people. I 2681 02:28:51.239 --> 02:28:59.360 want to be Israel. I see, And what does this 2682 02:28:59.479 --> 02:29:04.399 have to do with me? That's what you understand is 2683 02:29:06.520 --> 02:29:09.840 now I'm coming back to the w w E. That's 2684 02:29:09.879 --> 02:29:13.879 a new persona. I got a new character in mind. 2685 02:29:15.040 --> 02:29:17.600 I want to base it on the wacky things going 2686 02:29:17.600 --> 02:29:22.680 on the election, the wacky things so many. All right, 2687 02:29:23.000 --> 02:29:24.760 are you gonna dress up like Trump or something. Is 2688 02:29:24.799 --> 02:29:27.079 that the me? Are you going to be like Sid Trumps? 2689 02:29:27.360 --> 02:29:29.159 What's the look? You're coming out with a big bouffont 2690 02:29:29.239 --> 02:29:33.040 blonde bof Donald Donald Vicious? What's the look? Pal? Help me? 2691 02:29:33.200 --> 02:29:37.760 Help me see it? So I want you imagine me 2692 02:29:37.840 --> 02:29:43.719 all dressed in black, Okay, like the Undertaker. No, no, 2693 02:29:44.040 --> 02:29:52.319 like the Undertaker, like Israel. Okay. Now I want you 2694 02:29:52.360 --> 02:29:58.520 to understand, I'm wearing a black coverall, I'm wearing black gloves, 2695 02:30:01.239 --> 02:30:06.879 and then I'm wearing shoulder pads. You were like football pads, Pala, 2696 02:30:07.280 --> 02:30:09.879 I mean like you mean like women's shoulder like under 2697 02:30:09.920 --> 02:30:11.440 the shirt right in the eighties, like under the shirt 2698 02:30:11.440 --> 02:30:15.600 you can wear your shoulder pads and mm hmm okay, 2699 02:30:15.719 --> 02:30:20.040 you're talking about NFL football pads. I suppose those under 2700 02:30:20.079 --> 02:30:21.840 a shirt would add some bulk. I know it's hard 2701 02:30:21.840 --> 02:30:24.520 for you to put on bulk, you know, I you 2702 02:30:24.600 --> 02:30:26.600 know you are a bulky guy. But I can understand, 2703 02:30:26.639 --> 02:30:28.760 you know, you try to create a new image. Sure 2704 02:30:28.760 --> 02:30:31.399 you wear that under the shirt, under the cover all shirt. 2705 02:30:31.440 --> 02:30:38.239 That can create a no no, no, no, what no 2706 02:30:38.879 --> 02:30:44.120 under the shirt or to where the where the pads going? 2707 02:30:44.239 --> 02:30:57.479 Pal on top my shoulder pads fully exposed. What is that? 2708 02:30:57.719 --> 02:31:06.280 I mean, what's the point of that? Israel is so 2709 02:31:06.520 --> 02:31:09.719 putting putting the pads on on over the outside of 2710 02:31:09.799 --> 02:31:22.639 the shirt. Is Israel? I am reel, Israel rules the world. Listen, 2711 02:31:22.719 --> 02:31:27.840 I'll tell you what. Why don't Yeah, why don't we? 2712 02:31:29.600 --> 02:31:31.559 This is great? I love this. I think this is 2713 02:31:31.760 --> 02:31:33.520 We're gonna fast track this. Why don't you do me 2714 02:31:33.559 --> 02:31:37.399 a favor. You book a flight up here and we're 2715 02:31:37.440 --> 02:31:42.479 gonna right, We're gonna make sure that this gets right 2716 02:31:42.559 --> 02:31:47.319 on television, and you know, do me a favor. Call 2717 02:31:47.399 --> 02:31:49.760 me when you get here and I'll make sure that 2718 02:31:50.239 --> 02:31:54.440 I'm in town for this. Can we make sure we 2719 02:31:54.559 --> 02:31:56.840 get like videotape of this ship because I need to 2720 02:31:56.840 --> 02:31:59.399 put this on YouTube. Tom all right, I'm gonna put 2721 02:31:59.440 --> 02:32:05.479 this fucking shit YouTube. Israel psycho, Israel, one piece of ship. 2722 02:32:05.959 --> 02:32:08.159 You know, I'm hearing everything you're saying. On the phone. 2723 02:32:09.040 --> 02:32:13.559 What what what? 2724 02:32:13.840 --> 02:32:13.879 No? 2725 02:32:13.879 --> 02:32:19.239 I was talking about something. I was talking about something else, Bell, Yeah, 2726 02:32:19.360 --> 02:32:21.920 I was talking about No. No, I'm sorry. We get 2727 02:32:22.319 --> 02:32:24.600 we have a show in Israel and there's a psycho 2728 02:32:25.440 --> 02:32:27.399 who's trying to book the you know, it's a whole everything, 2729 02:32:27.520 --> 02:32:32.840 not you Israel, the the the the gimmick. This, this 2730 02:32:33.000 --> 02:32:39.520 is not a gimmick. This is the new sid Ah, 2731 02:32:40.280 --> 02:32:52.920 Damn Israel here Israel? All right? Well, oh man, if 2732 02:32:52.959 --> 02:32:57.399 Sid could have just been a booker, the whole world 2733 02:32:57.399 --> 02:33:00.319 will be a different place. I'll tell you, a world 2734 02:33:00.360 --> 02:33:04.360 of nations and peoples, of all the things it was 2735 02:33:07.159 --> 02:33:11.639 it was not real. Okay, is real? That's the one 2736 02:33:11.680 --> 02:33:17.799 thing it wasn't. Damn right, is real? No is fake? Terrible? 2737 02:33:18.719 --> 02:33:25.719 That's It's selful that it came down to that for Sid. 2738 02:33:26.079 --> 02:33:31.280 You know, it's such a reality. But we're missing the 2739 02:33:31.360 --> 02:33:34.360 silver tuna here. Oh God, we're going to talk about 2740 02:33:34.399 --> 02:33:36.719 this part of Sid's life. If we're going to talk 2741 02:33:36.760 --> 02:33:42.239 about the pattern of behavior that begins to emerge in 2742 02:33:42.399 --> 02:33:46.280 the world class excuse making. He starts to make, he 2743 02:33:46.360 --> 02:33:52.120 starts to compose for himself. We can't not talk about 2744 02:33:52.159 --> 02:33:54.719 the time that he now showed an event for a 2745 02:33:54.879 --> 02:33:58.920 i W in Illinois for promoter John Thorne, who had 2746 02:33:58.959 --> 02:34:03.760 his own podcast at the time and who started in 2747 02:34:03.760 --> 02:34:05.760 one episode of the podcast kind of dejected his co 2748 02:34:05.840 --> 02:34:08.360 hosts giving him a hard time. So he's on suicide 2749 02:34:08.399 --> 02:34:12.079 watch because much like the aforementioned pro Wrestling Syndicate promoter 2750 02:34:12.319 --> 02:34:16.280 a lot riding on the idea that an appearance from 2751 02:34:16.319 --> 02:34:18.520 Sid himself is quite rare on the US and D's 2752 02:34:19.159 --> 02:34:21.879 back in that day and you can come here and 2753 02:34:21.959 --> 02:34:24.360 come to this AIW show. I believe it's absolute intense 2754 02:34:24.399 --> 02:34:26.159 wrestling and lay eyes on Sid. 2755 02:34:26.360 --> 02:34:26.920 He'll be here. 2756 02:34:27.680 --> 02:34:31.479 Promotion promotional material is out. People are counting on him. 2757 02:34:32.719 --> 02:34:35.799 He's the draw. But as they go to record the podcast, 2758 02:34:35.879 --> 02:34:37.440 I believe a couple days before the show was to 2759 02:34:37.440 --> 02:34:40.559 happen that weekend, the voter John Thorne lets us know 2760 02:34:40.639 --> 02:34:41.799 that in fact, Sid didn't. 2761 02:34:41.559 --> 02:34:44.200 Go to the airport. Oh boy. 2762 02:34:44.639 --> 02:34:46.360 The night before he did tell him on the phone, 2763 02:34:46.399 --> 02:34:48.200 Hey brother Sid, this is looking forward to seeing you 2764 02:34:48.239 --> 02:34:50.680 in the morning. This is according to John Thorne, and 2765 02:34:50.840 --> 02:34:53.559 Sid said he'd give him a call. John said he 2766 02:34:53.600 --> 02:34:55.200 went to bed and had his phone on loud all 2767 02:34:55.319 --> 02:34:57.000 night so he can get woken up if the phone 2768 02:34:57.079 --> 02:34:57.840 rang and he was asleep. 2769 02:34:57.959 --> 02:34:58.559 Never got a call. 2770 02:34:59.399 --> 02:35:01.879 Sid was suppose to fly at five forty am that day. 2771 02:35:03.000 --> 02:35:07.920 John wakes up at eight thirty, no call, and he 2772 02:35:07.959 --> 02:35:09.879 thought to himself, maybe he's just, you know, maybe just 2773 02:35:09.920 --> 02:35:12.520 went to the airport. And I don't know, there's a 2774 02:35:12.680 --> 02:35:14.319 fuck in at the check in or whatever. Maybe you 2775 02:35:14.360 --> 02:35:16.360 got the wrong number, the wrong check in number, whatever. 2776 02:35:17.239 --> 02:35:18.719 He says, you know, I'm just gonna see what happened, 2777 02:35:20.040 --> 02:35:23.520 because it's not the easiest to find out if he's 2778 02:35:23.559 --> 02:35:25.079 in the air or not. But you know, if you're 2779 02:35:25.159 --> 02:35:27.479 just some third party. But he was like, you know, 2780 02:35:27.520 --> 02:35:29.600 I'm gonna put the check in number in and at 2781 02:35:29.680 --> 02:35:32.239 least that'll tell me what the seed is he had. 2782 02:35:32.319 --> 02:35:34.159 And because they booked the flight for SID, right, so 2783 02:35:34.280 --> 02:35:38.040 they have some some transparency here and they're going to 2784 02:35:38.079 --> 02:35:39.840 try to find out what's happening with SID. That way, 2785 02:35:40.520 --> 02:35:43.879 somebody goes on American Airlines website. He looks at it 2786 02:35:43.959 --> 02:35:47.239 and says, you know what, this flight it says this 2787 02:35:47.319 --> 02:35:48.479 trip has been canceled. 2788 02:35:49.280 --> 02:35:49.799 Canceled. 2789 02:35:50.680 --> 02:35:53.479 Trip isn't canceled, what do you mean, no bad weather 2790 02:35:53.600 --> 02:35:57.440 or anything, And maybe just just canceled, you know, because 2791 02:35:57.479 --> 02:36:00.799 it's it's he's already boarded or something like that. Maybe 2792 02:36:00.799 --> 02:36:03.280 they just cancel it out because it's you know, it's 2793 02:36:03.319 --> 02:36:09.239 been it's been dealt with, it's been launched. So you 2794 02:36:09.319 --> 02:36:12.159 know what, I'm gonna call American Airlines. He says, I'm 2795 02:36:12.159 --> 02:36:13.680 gonna let me let me see if I can get 2796 02:36:13.680 --> 02:36:16.479 further on the phone. So he calls him up and 2797 02:36:18.760 --> 02:36:21.200 guy answers. He says, you know, hey, I am I 2798 02:36:21.239 --> 02:36:23.719 about a flight for somebody, trying to locate him. I 2799 02:36:23.719 --> 02:36:26.120 haven't heard anything. Trying to make sure they're okay. At 2800 02:36:26.159 --> 02:36:28.440 the end of the day, a lot of SID for 2801 02:36:28.520 --> 02:36:30.399 the about a flight for this guy, said Udy and 2802 02:36:30.799 --> 02:36:33.799 six hundred dollars flight non refundable. Give him the check 2803 02:36:33.799 --> 02:36:36.520 in number. They said, yeah, that trip was canceled. 2804 02:36:38.000 --> 02:36:38.799 But what do you mean. 2805 02:36:40.239 --> 02:36:41.959 All the flights are on time? It looks like to me, 2806 02:36:43.159 --> 02:36:53.360 they said, no, Sydney Dy has canceled the trip. That's 2807 02:36:53.399 --> 02:36:55.079 the extent of the detail he's able to get. 2808 02:36:56.639 --> 02:36:56.760 Now. 2809 02:36:56.840 --> 02:37:02.040 He's deeply frustrated, But I like the promoter we talked 2810 02:37:02.040 --> 02:37:07.000 about before. He's got Sid's number. Yes, and he's recording 2811 02:37:07.040 --> 02:37:10.840 a podcast, Oh my god, and he can put that 2812 02:37:10.959 --> 02:37:11.799 sucker on speaker. 2813 02:37:12.440 --> 02:37:27.680 No, dude, he's doing some weird fucking hackershit with his phone. Sid, John, 2814 02:37:28.000 --> 02:37:30.840 what's up, man, I just got back from the airport. 2815 02:37:31.319 --> 02:37:34.000 They've got a god damn thing on my driver's license 2816 02:37:34.040 --> 02:37:35.799 is where it says I didn't pay a ticket, and 2817 02:37:35.879 --> 02:37:38.440 I got to sit here. I just looked through my 2818 02:37:38.520 --> 02:37:41.520 mail and it ain't nothing better about a fucking speaking ticket. 2819 02:37:41.520 --> 02:37:44.360 And I guess now that fucking uh Donald Trump has 2820 02:37:44.399 --> 02:37:48.040 got these fucking things. They can't let me get through 2821 02:37:48.079 --> 02:37:50.280 without a passport, and I didn't have my passport. I 2822 02:37:50.319 --> 02:37:51.760 can't find that son of a bitch. 2823 02:37:51.719 --> 02:37:56.079 Either, So so what happens now? 2824 02:37:56.840 --> 02:37:59.920 I don't know. John's why I'm sitting there looking looking around, 2825 02:38:00.079 --> 02:38:02.280 think what to do. That's golf to follow with my lawyer. 2826 02:38:04.280 --> 02:38:06.000 He was I was on the phone him when you called. 2827 02:38:06.879 --> 02:38:10.840 He didn't see if anything I can do, He's and 2828 02:38:10.959 --> 02:38:12.799 I'm not the only one that I had a friend 2829 02:38:12.799 --> 02:38:15.840 of mine happiness that they weren't going to a wrestling show, 2830 02:38:15.920 --> 02:38:18.520 but they were. They worked for Delta of all things, 2831 02:38:18.600 --> 02:38:21.479 and when they tried to get connected flight to get 2832 02:38:21.520 --> 02:38:24.120 home the other day. Some to do with this fucking 2833 02:38:26.360 --> 02:38:29.959 this new travel band. If you got like what I've gotten, 2834 02:38:30.040 --> 02:38:32.120 I'm not sure it's the speeding ticket or what it is. 2835 02:38:32.200 --> 02:38:33.680 I got it in the mill the other day. My 2836 02:38:33.799 --> 02:38:38.559 wife actually actually has it, actually had one. And I 2837 02:38:38.639 --> 02:38:41.479 had a friend of mine that you years ago, when 2838 02:38:41.600 --> 02:38:45.239 came in the mill, says a Department of administration and 2839 02:38:45.479 --> 02:38:47.479 opened here is just to see what it was. Because 2840 02:38:47.559 --> 02:38:50.040 the guy's dead now, he's not live anymore. And it 2841 02:38:50.159 --> 02:38:53.680 was a speeding ticket from Louisiana. So I took my wife. 2842 02:38:53.840 --> 02:38:55.239 She ready to me. I can't remember it was the 2843 02:38:55.280 --> 02:38:58.079 speeding ticket or where it was, but because I had 2844 02:38:58.159 --> 02:39:00.719 that on there, I can't. I got to go now, 2845 02:39:00.959 --> 02:39:02.959 I've got to go get my wife is renewed. 2846 02:39:04.159 --> 02:39:06.399 So they so they just wouldn't watch you through Huh 2847 02:39:06.559 --> 02:39:11.559 they wouldn't let me home. Fuck. Uh yeah, I don't like. 2848 02:39:11.719 --> 02:39:14.559 I called the airport this morning, the airline this morning, 2849 02:39:15.239 --> 02:39:17.319 and uh, you know, they didn't have any answers for me. 2850 02:39:17.399 --> 02:39:19.840 I was trying to call you. What was going on? 2851 02:39:20.479 --> 02:39:25.719 I doubt your uh uh your phone on my cell 2852 02:39:25.799 --> 02:39:28.159 phone and I must have hit the bone digital I 2853 02:39:28.239 --> 02:39:30.040 got over there. It wasn't going to your number. It 2854 02:39:30.159 --> 02:39:32.120 was going to some fucking automated thing. 2855 02:39:32.760 --> 02:39:35.559 Oh wow, because I you know that way and have 2856 02:39:35.719 --> 02:39:36.079 it with me. 2857 02:39:37.840 --> 02:39:40.479 And again, like you said, I know the girl works 2858 02:39:40.520 --> 02:39:42.840 there a Delta. She says, there's there's nothing we can do. 2859 02:39:44.360 --> 02:39:47.120 Uh, well, your flight was on American I know. 2860 02:39:47.239 --> 02:39:49.399 That, but she works there, so I tired going and 2861 02:39:49.479 --> 02:39:52.559 see if she knew anybody and you know, help me 2862 02:39:52.639 --> 02:39:55.440 out on that. But she said the same thing happened 2863 02:39:55.479 --> 02:39:58.079 to her. And then I keep remember that the other 2864 02:39:58.159 --> 02:40:02.120 person was I didn't And it just depends what state. 2865 02:40:03.920 --> 02:40:05.840 Who is this? I used to talk to a girl 2866 02:40:05.879 --> 02:40:07.920 in the gym about that yesterday. That's what it was. 2867 02:40:08.920 --> 02:40:10.760 But that's what it is, John. I can't get through 2868 02:40:10.799 --> 02:40:13.200 because I've got some kind of fucking outstanding thing and 2869 02:40:13.280 --> 02:40:15.479 it can't be no more of the goddamn speeding tickets. 2870 02:40:15.520 --> 02:40:17.520 I can't think of anything else. I but even had 2871 02:40:18.000 --> 02:40:21.159 I can't even remember getting the speeding ticket. And this 2872 02:40:21.280 --> 02:40:25.319 could be something. You know. What happened was I've only 2873 02:40:25.360 --> 02:40:29.879 had driver's license down for about a year. They never 2874 02:40:30.000 --> 02:40:32.079 did what it was. For seven years, I couldn't get 2875 02:40:32.079 --> 02:40:35.120 a driver's license. Uh, maybe longer than that. They said 2876 02:40:35.120 --> 02:40:36.920 there's something wrong with it. Was something wrong with it. 2877 02:40:37.280 --> 02:40:39.719 I got a lawyer and went through every fucking state 2878 02:40:39.760 --> 02:40:41.719 in the Union see if there was a speeding ticket 2879 02:40:41.840 --> 02:40:43.680 or something somewhere outstanding. 2880 02:40:44.239 --> 02:40:46.079 They never really could find anything. 2881 02:40:46.840 --> 02:40:49.760 And then I got a ticket one day and the 2882 02:40:49.840 --> 02:40:51.959 judge says, you better fucking find out what's going on, 2883 02:40:52.120 --> 02:40:53.479 You're gonna be in trouble. So I went to the 2884 02:40:53.600 --> 02:40:56.719 revenue office. Now they look they just said, hey, we 2885 02:40:56.799 --> 02:40:59.440 can't find anything. And that's what's so weird about it 2886 02:40:59.479 --> 02:41:02.040 when they look it up. Even when I get pulled over, 2887 02:41:02.639 --> 02:41:05.840 they changed nothing on your records showing that you shouldn't 2888 02:41:05.840 --> 02:41:09.040 have shouldn't be able to get your driver's license. I 2889 02:41:09.159 --> 02:41:12.680 finally got so, and I've had them that for over 2890 02:41:12.719 --> 02:41:15.239 a year. But I don't know if that's the same 2891 02:41:15.399 --> 02:41:21.879 thing popping up or what it is so damn administration 2892 02:41:22.000 --> 02:41:23.719 thing that my wife getting ready to me I can't 2893 02:41:23.840 --> 02:41:26.840 ever or something stupid. 2894 02:41:28.000 --> 02:41:29.959 Yeah, you know that's Uh, this kind of sucks for 2895 02:41:30.040 --> 02:41:31.360 me because I had a lot, you know, I sold 2896 02:41:31.360 --> 02:41:32.520 a lot of tickets for tonight. 2897 02:41:33.239 --> 02:41:39.040 I know, John, and I'm I'm not upset more than 2898 02:41:39.079 --> 02:41:41.319 you are, of course, but I'm pissed about everything that 2899 02:41:41.399 --> 02:41:43.680 I pissed down that I don't have a fucking driver's license. 2900 02:41:44.520 --> 02:41:46.639 Yeah, I just don't know how I'm gonna explain it 2901 02:41:46.680 --> 02:41:51.520 to people, you know, right, It's. 2902 02:41:51.440 --> 02:41:54.520 Just I don't know, man, man right now, and I've 2903 02:41:54.559 --> 02:42:00.200 got ten thousand fucking other things stupid, and it's just a. Yeah, 2904 02:42:00.200 --> 02:42:02.479 I spent seven years trying to figure this fucking thing out. 2905 02:42:02.520 --> 02:42:03.479 I thought it was behind me. 2906 02:42:04.600 --> 02:42:06.479 And because they. 2907 02:42:06.440 --> 02:42:09.000 Said the colendar, they said, what it was is because 2908 02:42:09.040 --> 02:42:11.479 of these jew restrictions that Donald Trump has put on 2909 02:42:11.559 --> 02:42:14.280 different states. And they don't know because they can't look 2910 02:42:14.280 --> 02:42:17.639 to it because well, you've got a problem in this state, you. 2911 02:42:17.639 --> 02:42:18.120 Know what I mean. 2912 02:42:18.360 --> 02:42:20.079 That's fucking that's fucking Trump man. 2913 02:42:20.159 --> 02:42:23.840 I tell you, Donald, tell you what, John, I've never 2914 02:42:23.959 --> 02:42:28.719 voted my whole life. Donald Trump has messed up more 2915 02:42:28.840 --> 02:42:32.600 things than this. We could go on all day. 2916 02:42:33.520 --> 02:42:34.959 It's because the football thing. 2917 02:42:35.079 --> 02:42:37.479 You know, I did want call him Tapernick around either 2918 02:42:38.680 --> 02:42:41.079 for what he did. But the deal was is the 2919 02:42:41.280 --> 02:42:43.760 NFL owner said already decided he wasn't going to be 2920 02:42:44.959 --> 02:42:47.680 So Donald Trump steps in and makes of all this fuss. 2921 02:42:48.200 --> 02:42:51.319 Now everybody, I know, not you watching football anymore. 2922 02:42:52.440 --> 02:42:54.920 It's you know, it's turning it into a real crazy world. 2923 02:42:56.079 --> 02:42:58.000 Well he just turned it into something he didn't have to. 2924 02:42:58.719 --> 02:42:58.840 You know. 2925 02:42:59.120 --> 02:43:01.639 Again, they want to said Kaepernick, you're not going to 2926 02:43:01.680 --> 02:43:05.120 place if you were that this dance that you wanted 2927 02:43:05.159 --> 02:43:08.280 to take, it was already taken. So Donald Trump comes 2928 02:43:08.360 --> 02:43:10.879 in and makes up a little bit more fuss. Now 2929 02:43:11.159 --> 02:43:14.479 it's got you know, I know, I don't Honestly, I 2930 02:43:14.600 --> 02:43:18.079 don't know anything. People that I talked to when I 2931 02:43:18.159 --> 02:43:21.399 bring up the subject that are watching football now. 2932 02:43:21.319 --> 02:43:23.200 I'm not watching. Do you hear Vincent Man might buy 2933 02:43:23.239 --> 02:43:24.200 the Carolina Panthers? 2934 02:43:25.479 --> 02:43:26.040 Do what now? 2935 02:43:26.479 --> 02:43:28.479 Vincent Man might buy the Carolina Panthers. 2936 02:43:28.799 --> 02:43:29.280 Did you hear that? 2937 02:43:29.440 --> 02:43:29.680 Really? 2938 02:43:30.040 --> 02:43:30.239 Yeah? 2939 02:43:31.280 --> 02:43:33.760 He's he's uh, or he might bring the XFL back, 2940 02:43:33.799 --> 02:43:34.399 that's the rumor. 2941 02:43:35.479 --> 02:43:37.319 Well, you do the only thing about this is this 2942 02:43:37.520 --> 02:43:42.680 John down Mark Cuban. Okay, if they're going to turn 2943 02:43:42.719 --> 02:43:45.319 down Mark Cubans, they're definitely gonna turn down Vince mcman. 2944 02:43:46.680 --> 02:43:49.959 I agree, you know what I mean absolutely. 2945 02:43:50.360 --> 02:43:53.280 Well, there's a you know, I guess if there's any 2946 02:43:53.399 --> 02:43:57.879 type of fraternity that's gonna that's gonna be funny. The 2947 02:43:58.040 --> 02:44:00.799 last touch or last effect about this will be the 2948 02:44:00.959 --> 02:44:06.200 NFL football owners. You know, I would you know, I 2949 02:44:06.280 --> 02:44:12.200 didn't know. I didn't realize this today. This so before 2950 02:44:12.239 --> 02:44:15.920 they ever let someone like put this man into probably 2951 02:44:16.959 --> 02:44:19.200 you know, put a black owner in first. But I 2952 02:44:19.399 --> 02:44:22.799 doubt that even you know, they're gonna be real picky 2953 02:44:22.799 --> 02:44:23.959 about who they put in there. 2954 02:44:25.440 --> 02:44:28.719 Maybe uh, you know, maybe uh, in a couple of weeks, 2955 02:44:28.760 --> 02:44:31.120 we could have you on my podcast or something and 2956 02:44:31.239 --> 02:44:35.479 you could maybe like explain, yes, explain the situation. I'm 2957 02:44:35.520 --> 02:44:37.239 just trying to find now. I'm trying to scrabble to 2958 02:44:37.280 --> 02:44:40.159 try to find a replacement for you know, something I 2959 02:44:40.200 --> 02:44:42.319 don't I don't know what's getting what to do. 2960 02:44:44.280 --> 02:44:46.639 Well, I'm sorry this happened, Dan, I said, Thank god, 2961 02:44:46.680 --> 02:44:48.879 I just got home the stove man's go work. Could 2962 02:44:48.920 --> 02:44:50.920 call you. I heard the phone ring and as I 2963 02:44:51.000 --> 02:44:54.239 was getting in the door. But oh my god, it's 2964 02:44:54.360 --> 02:44:57.959 just I'm sorry. I'm gonna I'm gonna fix. I just 2965 02:44:58.040 --> 02:45:00.239 called my lawyer. He's checking over the find that was 2966 02:45:00.280 --> 02:45:00.520 going on. 2967 02:45:00.760 --> 02:45:01.959 He just called his lawyer wing. 2968 02:45:02.120 --> 02:45:03.799 Oh see what the fuck is going on? 2969 02:45:04.239 --> 02:45:06.120 Yeah, because I'm you know, I'm out quite quite a 2970 02:45:06.159 --> 02:45:08.200 bit of money too on the flight in the hotel and. 2971 02:45:08.280 --> 02:45:11.840 Donald Trump, I know, your money back to the hotel hopefully. 2972 02:45:12.079 --> 02:45:14.680 Now because it's not twenty four hours. They won't. I 2973 02:45:14.719 --> 02:45:17.559 already called. They wouldn't give me the money back. Oh shit, 2974 02:45:18.520 --> 02:45:19.399 So I'm kind of man. 2975 02:45:19.399 --> 02:45:21.440 I'm sorry that I could be maybe next time, but 2976 02:45:21.799 --> 02:45:23.559 set up a podcast something. I'll be glad. 2977 02:45:23.639 --> 02:45:26.000 To do that for you, okay, man, you know, and 2978 02:45:26.440 --> 02:45:28.319 keep keep in touch. Maybe we could have you come 2979 02:45:28.399 --> 02:45:29.399 to a makeup or something. 2980 02:45:30.159 --> 02:45:31.360 Yeah, I'd be glad to do that. 2981 02:45:32.000 --> 02:45:32.319 All right. 2982 02:45:32.360 --> 02:45:34.639 Well, you know, keep stay in touch and keep me, 2983 02:45:34.920 --> 02:45:36.879 keep me in a loop with the license and what's 2984 02:45:36.920 --> 02:45:39.479 going on with the Trump stuff and your your license. 2985 02:45:40.239 --> 02:45:42.159 Yeah, and then just again, you know when you want 2986 02:45:42.159 --> 02:45:44.200 to do this podcast, so you get a chance. I'd 2987 02:45:44.239 --> 02:45:46.600 love to be able to come back, you know, to me. 2988 02:45:46.719 --> 02:45:48.360 It's been fishing me off twice. And you know, my 2989 02:45:48.399 --> 02:45:51.079 writer expecting to see me now you gotta call him, 2990 02:45:51.120 --> 02:45:53.239 tell him I can't make it. It was uh, it 2991 02:45:53.360 --> 02:45:56.440 was really a great opportunity for me to have to 2992 02:45:56.479 --> 02:45:56.840 be able to. 2993 02:45:56.840 --> 02:45:57.879 Do one time. 2994 02:45:58.799 --> 02:46:00.639 Right, Yeah, I know you're like forward to seeing the 2995 02:46:00.639 --> 02:46:12.000 book writer, so just sometimes yeah, absolutely, just keep in touch. Okay, 2996 02:46:12.399 --> 02:46:13.479 have a great day you too. 2997 02:46:15.559 --> 02:46:21.360 I guess he's not coming. What the fuck? I don't 2998 02:46:21.399 --> 02:46:27.360 even know where to begin. I mean, that's absolutely insanity. 2999 02:46:27.600 --> 02:46:28.000 Like he. 3000 02:46:30.120 --> 02:46:33.479 The tangents, the yes exactly. He just went off on 3001 02:46:33.959 --> 02:46:38.520 so many different like every time there was some way 3002 02:46:38.600 --> 02:46:45.520 to connect, like every time there was like he just 3003 02:46:45.959 --> 02:46:47.760 he just kind of kept like it was basically like 3004 02:46:47.879 --> 02:46:51.479 one long run on sentence. You know, he just kept 3005 02:46:52.319 --> 02:46:54.959 something else, like he just talked about Trump and all 3006 02:46:54.959 --> 02:46:56.120 of a sudden talking about football. 3007 02:46:56.239 --> 02:47:00.159 And here's the thing, John, Yeah, right, exactly, here's the thing, 3008 02:47:00.239 --> 02:47:03.879 exactly like he's and what is I guess what's really 3009 02:47:04.000 --> 02:47:09.319 the most brilliant and at the same time horrifying. 3010 02:47:08.799 --> 02:47:14.280 Thing is how casually he does it. Yes, and I 3011 02:47:14.399 --> 02:47:17.200 know that that's kind of the the thing, and wrestlers 3012 02:47:17.280 --> 02:47:18.879 do that, But I'll tell you, I don't know, Like 3013 02:47:18.959 --> 02:47:22.600 there's something about the way Sid does it that you're 3014 02:47:23.959 --> 02:47:26.280 if you're not, if you're not kind of of the 3015 02:47:26.399 --> 02:47:31.239 right mind set and you're not on your own game, 3016 02:47:33.120 --> 02:47:33.879 he could fool you. 3017 02:47:34.159 --> 02:47:39.319 Yep, yep, amen, because he keeps just talking and talking 3018 02:47:39.399 --> 02:47:42.159 and talking. He just exhausts you to the point where 3019 02:47:42.159 --> 02:47:44.680 it's like it's going to be easier at this. I'm 3020 02:47:44.719 --> 02:47:46.840 already pissed off with this guy to begin with. It's 3021 02:47:46.879 --> 02:47:48.760 not going to make me feel any better to let 3022 02:47:48.840 --> 02:47:52.040 him talk at me for twenty five minutes about tangential subjects. 3023 02:47:52.200 --> 02:47:53.639 And he knows it's not only that, but he's just 3024 02:47:53.760 --> 02:47:55.559 the way he just keeps going and he knows. 3025 02:47:55.479 --> 02:47:57.600 This he's not doing it because he's he's not doing 3026 02:47:57.639 --> 02:48:00.639 it by mistake. The more he talks to you can talk, 3027 02:48:00.799 --> 02:48:01.559 you know exactly. 3028 02:48:01.680 --> 02:48:06.959 Yep. So in other words, good guy and a pleasure 3029 02:48:07.000 --> 02:48:08.319 to deal with, and a guy who never got a 3030 02:48:08.360 --> 02:48:12.840 fair shake in the business. I mean, what the fuck? Seriously, 3031 02:48:13.000 --> 02:48:13.680 what the fuck? 3032 02:48:14.239 --> 02:48:15.920 And you got to think how many times he played 3033 02:48:15.959 --> 02:48:18.159 cards like that? Eleven years on a license? 3034 02:48:18.200 --> 02:48:18.799 Is what he said? 3035 02:48:20.399 --> 02:48:23.200 You see something like that, like, I mean, maybe I 3036 02:48:23.239 --> 02:48:25.440 don't know, Maybe it's getting arrested for having weed on you. 3037 02:48:25.600 --> 02:48:27.920 Maybe that's what the problem is. You can't It was 3038 02:48:27.920 --> 02:48:29.680 another one of those like, you know, I don't know 3039 02:48:29.760 --> 02:48:31.520 what it could be, you know, over and over again. 3040 02:48:31.760 --> 02:48:33.840 And my wife read it to me over the phone. 3041 02:48:34.200 --> 02:48:36.319 So that explains why he doesn't have it on his person. 3042 02:48:38.159 --> 02:48:42.600 But what and he didn't have a license when he 3043 02:48:42.639 --> 02:48:44.440 got pulled over with the marijuana either, right. 3044 02:48:46.159 --> 02:48:49.239 Unbelievable. Seriously, it really is unbelievable. 3045 02:48:49.840 --> 02:48:52.840 So you can imagine just how how breathless the headlines 3046 02:48:52.840 --> 02:48:55.079 were about how Trump you know, sid blames. 3047 02:48:54.799 --> 02:48:57.680 Trump in the twist. 3048 02:48:57.760 --> 02:49:02.719 Don't imagine on the twisted every promoter saying about this 3049 02:49:02.840 --> 02:49:04.840 guy all this time and he mentioned the book. You know, 3050 02:49:04.920 --> 02:49:06.239 he mentioned he was going to meet with a writer 3051 02:49:06.360 --> 02:49:09.440 too when he was out there. And needless to say, 3052 02:49:09.600 --> 02:49:12.680 we've gone all these weeks talking about Sid and we 3053 02:49:12.799 --> 02:49:16.159 never had an opportunity to quote from his book because 3054 02:49:17.079 --> 02:49:18.600 let me give you a guest, boss, do you think 3055 02:49:18.600 --> 02:49:19.120 it came out? 3056 02:49:19.239 --> 02:49:20.000 Do you think it was no? 3057 02:49:20.680 --> 02:49:22.600 Do you think it was problem an issue free trying 3058 02:49:22.600 --> 02:49:24.280 to work with Sid on getting a book out about 3059 02:49:24.280 --> 02:49:24.559 his life. 3060 02:49:25.040 --> 02:49:29.760 I would imagine that there were some inconsistencies on the 3061 02:49:29.879 --> 02:49:30.959 level of Diana Hart. 3062 02:49:35.959 --> 02:49:42.000 It came out in review form to select few, very 3063 02:49:42.040 --> 02:49:44.959 few have seen the book Sid decided to write, called 3064 02:49:45.879 --> 02:49:47.040 Poetry in the Sand. 3065 02:49:48.399 --> 02:49:50.200 The Israel story came. 3066 02:49:50.040 --> 02:49:53.840 Out in twenty twelve. Now a wrestler, a writer at 3067 02:49:53.840 --> 02:49:56.760 Slam Wrestling named Tom Letterge was able to get his 3068 02:49:56.840 --> 02:49:58.639 hands on the book. And this is the description we're 3069 02:49:58.680 --> 02:50:00.559 able to get. If anybody, are you out there in 3070 02:50:00.600 --> 02:50:03.559 the Solar System by hook or by crook, is in 3071 02:50:03.680 --> 02:50:06.360 receipt of a copy of this thing, we would love 3072 02:50:06.399 --> 02:50:08.559 to see it. But it's not a huge loss because 3073 02:50:08.559 --> 02:50:10.920 from what I understand, it's just like that phone call. 3074 02:50:11.920 --> 02:50:16.040 Well, but then again, that is a huge loss, right 3075 02:50:16.399 --> 02:50:17.559 for entertainment. 3076 02:50:17.200 --> 02:50:21.680 Factor, or I should say it as Sid says it right, right, 3077 02:50:22.040 --> 02:50:27.959 right right. Poetry in the Sand. Tom writes detail Sid 3078 02:50:28.040 --> 02:50:30.639 Vicious is larger than life persona, but is small and 3079 02:50:30.719 --> 02:50:35.040 wrestling dirt. First off, the title of this Sid Vicious biography, 3080 02:50:35.079 --> 02:50:37.200 Poetry in the Sand, is based on a misheard Beach 3081 02:50:37.280 --> 02:50:42.280 Boys lyric from California Girls. Author Barry R. Norman writes 3082 02:50:42.319 --> 02:50:44.399 at the stand in for palm Trees in the Sand 3083 02:50:44.559 --> 02:50:46.879 reminded him of the six seven, three hundred pound Vicious 3084 02:50:46.920 --> 02:50:50.200 Sports Sydney Udy. Norman explains that he and Psycho Sid 3085 02:50:50.280 --> 02:50:53.079 met and became friends during their time at World Championship Wrestling. 3086 02:50:53.600 --> 02:50:55.479 Udi was an in ring ruler of the World in 3087 02:50:55.520 --> 02:50:58.680 Norman working television production. Norman is a self described media 3088 02:50:58.760 --> 02:51:00.879 junkie who has worked in print, me movie's music, and 3089 02:51:00.920 --> 02:51:03.520 even promoting the Olympics. He has self published other books, 3090 02:51:03.559 --> 02:51:06.120 but in this his first one on professional wrestling, The 3091 02:51:06.280 --> 02:51:09.959 Udi Baya, was published by Stillwater River Publications. The book's 3092 02:51:10.000 --> 02:51:12.399 forward gives great detail about the men's friendship and how 3093 02:51:12.440 --> 02:51:18.760 things very recently went wrong. Early on, Uti poses the 3094 02:51:18.840 --> 02:51:22.319 question do you think you know me? Perhaps most wrestling 3095 02:51:22.399 --> 02:51:25.159 fans do remember his beginning as Lordymungus as w CW 3096 02:51:25.239 --> 02:51:27.920 battles with Sid and Hulk Stinging Hulkogan Rather and his 3097 02:51:28.000 --> 02:51:31.760 World Wrestling Federation now World Wrestling Entertainment squash match against 3098 02:51:31.760 --> 02:51:34.000 the late Big Bully Busick along with his manager Harvey 3099 02:51:34.000 --> 02:51:37.079 Whippleman Downtown Bruno. Udye spends a great deal of the 3100 02:51:37.120 --> 02:51:39.879 book detailing his childhood, which began on an Air Force 3101 02:51:39.920 --> 02:51:43.360 base in Moses Lake, Washington and more famously for his fans, 3102 02:51:43.680 --> 02:51:46.680 West Memphis, Arkansas. Although Norman wrote the book, it is 3103 02:51:46.799 --> 02:51:50.319 entirely in Udie's oftentimes hyperkinetic tempo with a run on, 3104 02:51:50.799 --> 02:51:54.920 sometimes rambling, and random style reminiscent of Jack Carroll Wacken 3105 02:51:54.959 --> 02:51:59.479 Hunter S. Thompson Sid was Wrestling's Hunter S Thompson. 3106 02:52:00.159 --> 02:52:01.959 That's that's Ie Wow. 3107 02:52:02.479 --> 02:52:05.319 Youuty details how his family moved frequently, especially after his 3108 02:52:05.399 --> 02:52:07.719 parents split. He spent quality time with some of the 3109 02:52:07.799 --> 02:52:10.879 men his mother dated and had relationships with following the 3110 02:52:11.040 --> 02:52:13.520 marriage breakup. As a growing teen, you'd he worked long 3111 02:52:13.559 --> 02:52:17.200 hours on farms under the stifling Arkansas sun, saving money 3112 02:52:17.239 --> 02:52:19.239 for brand new sports cars that enabled him to rack 3113 02:52:19.319 --> 02:52:22.440 up DUIs and other traffic citations in a short period 3114 02:52:22.479 --> 02:52:22.799 of time. 3115 02:52:23.479 --> 02:52:24.239 Oh my God good. 3116 02:52:24.280 --> 02:52:27.360 He explores childhood adventures along with drug and alcohol use. 3117 02:52:27.360 --> 02:52:29.360 The one hundred and fifty two page tome is a 3118 02:52:29.440 --> 02:52:31.040 quick read, but don't look for much in the way 3119 02:52:31.079 --> 02:52:34.000 of backstage wrestling stories. He addresses the infamous arn Anderson's 3120 02:52:34.000 --> 02:52:35.239 stabbing incident in less than. 3121 02:52:35.280 --> 02:52:38.959 I don't want I don't want that. I wow what 3122 02:52:39.239 --> 02:52:42.120 he's going to do with all the craziness. He knows 3123 02:52:42.159 --> 02:52:44.479 what you want, and he's gonna wait for you. Yes, 3124 02:52:44.559 --> 02:52:47.319 he's gonna insist that you sit down and eat like 3125 02:52:47.920 --> 02:52:50.639 ninety five percent of your meal as vegetables before he 3126 02:52:50.680 --> 02:52:54.079 gives you like five percent of yummy st Yes, in 3127 02:52:54.159 --> 02:52:56.360 less than one hundred words, and it is fifty nine 3128 02:52:56.399 --> 02:52:58.799 pages in before he devotes time to his horrific and 3129 02:52:58.920 --> 02:53:01.719 ring like break in ww Oodi notes that his animosity 3130 02:53:01.760 --> 02:53:03.959 toward w B chairman and CEO Vince McMahon helped him 3131 02:53:04.000 --> 02:53:07.000 get through rehab. Norman confirms that Udy was indeed angry 3132 02:53:07.040 --> 02:53:09.079 with Nicmahn despite not being employed by w B when 3133 02:53:09.120 --> 02:53:12.879 the injury occurred. In chapter ten, Throwing Everybody under the Bus, 3134 02:53:13.079 --> 02:53:16.719 Oodie takes a jarring turn from stories to strange declarations. 3135 02:53:17.000 --> 02:53:19.440 He claims to never have missed a booking due to softball. 3136 02:53:19.799 --> 02:53:22.000 Anyone who has followed his independent bookings nose that's an 3137 02:53:22.000 --> 02:53:24.840 abject fallacy. In fact, he claims to not play softball 3138 02:53:24.959 --> 02:53:29.520 but semi professional tittly winks. Excuse, excuse me. 3139 02:53:29.840 --> 02:53:32.719 According to Norman, Udi doesn't relish in wrestling talk, but 3140 02:53:32.719 --> 02:53:34.719 would rather talk about his years growing up. I wonder 3141 02:53:34.799 --> 02:53:37.159 why you will find that here and you'll grow to 3142 02:53:37.239 --> 02:53:40.680 appreciate this somewhat low key former champion. The storytelling does 3143 02:53:40.760 --> 02:53:43.559 take a less Thompson esk Ryde in the book Rest 3144 02:53:43.600 --> 02:53:46.760 of the Way. Probably Udi is introspective when it comes 3145 02:53:46.799 --> 02:53:49.440 to faith religion. His relationship with his loving aunt Joyce 3146 02:53:49.479 --> 02:53:51.200 is the highlight of the book. His love of music, 3147 02:53:51.239 --> 02:53:53.360 snippets of song lyrics that are meaningful to him dot 3148 02:53:53.399 --> 02:53:56.319 the book, and personal relationships. There is a strange chapter 3149 02:53:56.479 --> 02:54:01.079 dedicated to the coda angle Ud believes would be a 3150 02:54:01.120 --> 02:54:03.319 great wrestling angle, but could only be told by the 3151 02:54:03.360 --> 02:54:05.520 same team that brought the film The Peanut Butter Falcon 3152 02:54:05.559 --> 02:54:08.319 to the big screen, or by Norman's own film contacts. 3153 02:54:08.600 --> 02:54:09.360 I'm sorry what now. 3154 02:54:09.440 --> 02:54:13.200 The coda angle revolves around a gigantic, masked wrestler named 3155 02:54:13.319 --> 02:54:17.879 Faust who comes out of independent Wrestling Nowhere and resembles 3156 02:54:17.920 --> 02:54:22.239 a certain destructive behemoth. Faust's wheelchair bound manager dukes McMahon 3157 02:54:23.079 --> 02:54:27.200 into signing Faust to a contract. After much exposition, much 3158 02:54:27.239 --> 02:54:30.200 more detail than any program in WW history, it's determined 3159 02:54:30.239 --> 02:54:34.159 that Faust is in fact a superpowered ud. A happy, 3160 02:54:34.520 --> 02:54:40.239 satisfying ending ultimately concludes Udy's storied career. So sign good 3161 02:54:40.280 --> 02:54:48.280 Pitch Boss. The coda angle, I don't really have a wheelchair. 3162 02:54:49.760 --> 02:54:50.600 And now for the Udi. 3163 02:54:50.719 --> 02:54:53.600 In Norman's story, According to Norman, a long time ago, 3164 02:54:53.799 --> 02:54:55.920 the two met on the job and bonded over their 3165 02:54:55.959 --> 02:54:59.440 shared love of softball, and remained best friends until recently. 3166 02:55:00.200 --> 02:55:02.680 In fact, Poetry in the Sand with Uty emulating Marvel 3167 02:55:02.719 --> 02:55:05.319 Comics Sandman on the front cover is currently in distribution 3168 02:55:05.479 --> 02:55:09.040 limbo in some buying platforms, according to Norman. On June twelfth, 3169 02:55:09.040 --> 02:55:11.840 twenty twenty, Amazon notified in the email that the book 3170 02:55:11.920 --> 02:55:14.360 was pulled from its website, noting that they don't want 3171 02:55:14.360 --> 02:55:16.120 to get into the middle of a legal dispute. At 3172 02:55:16.159 --> 02:55:18.319 press time, a resolution for this dispute is still pending. 3173 02:55:19.040 --> 02:55:21.040 In recent bonds if not weeks, The friends have had 3174 02:55:21.079 --> 02:55:23.159 a falling out, most of it seems to surround a 3175 02:55:23.200 --> 02:55:25.399 planned visit to Utie's home, as well as the tone 3176 02:55:25.440 --> 02:55:28.479 of the book itself. The rift widened from there. Most notably, 3177 02:55:28.559 --> 02:55:30.239 Uti in his legal team argued that the book did 3178 02:55:30.280 --> 02:55:34.120 not have a legal certificate of registration. Oh my god, Si, 3179 02:55:34.159 --> 02:55:35.719 guy who can't figure out why he does have a 3180 02:55:35.799 --> 02:55:38.360 license is filing lawsuits saying you don't have a valiant 3181 02:55:38.399 --> 02:55:41.520 certificate of registration. But Norman is quick to provide proof 3182 02:55:41.559 --> 02:55:43.680 that he has crossed his tees and dotted his eyes. 3183 02:55:44.000 --> 02:55:46.920 On the Vicious Circle podcast, duty is discussed replacing Norman 3184 02:55:46.959 --> 02:55:50.120 as his biographer. In their now evaporated friendship, Both men 3185 02:55:50.200 --> 02:55:53.239 have admitted to experiencing bouts of depression, and Norman says 3186 02:55:53.280 --> 02:55:55.159 the two bonded over their troubles as well as their 3187 02:55:55.200 --> 02:55:58.799 happier times. Sadly, Norman says Uti has recently reached out 3188 02:55:58.799 --> 02:56:01.120 to him. However, its his opinion that their friendship is 3189 02:56:01.200 --> 02:56:05.479 irrevek irrevocably broken. Editor's note for more in the Conflict 3190 02:56:05.520 --> 02:56:08.239 of the biopleasee Letargy's previous slam Wrestling dot Net story, 3191 02:56:09.040 --> 02:56:11.559 Slim Wrestling dot Net did reach out to Udi through 3192 02:56:12.680 --> 02:56:15.719 Rob his podcast co host, to offer Udi the opportunity 3193 02:56:15.760 --> 02:56:17.600 to share his side of the story. Bellamy responded to 3194 02:56:17.639 --> 02:56:19.920 the email quote as for the book, once the legal 3195 02:56:19.959 --> 02:56:21.879 side has wrapped, both Sid and myself would be happy 3196 02:56:21.959 --> 02:56:25.760 to talk about it. Nonetheless, thanks to Norman's seasoned guidance 3197 02:56:25.840 --> 02:56:27.840 with Poetry in the Sand, we do get to know 3198 02:56:27.879 --> 02:56:30.840 who Udie is, and the One Time Skyscraper is as 3199 02:56:30.879 --> 02:56:33.719 complicated as a wrestling fan may surmise. He isn't as 3200 02:56:33.760 --> 02:56:36.680 detailed as the writings of Christ Jericho or mcfoley, but 3201 02:56:36.760 --> 02:56:38.399 it is a must read for anyone yearning to know 3202 02:56:38.520 --> 02:56:42.600 more about Udi. Norman's next project is writing a play 3203 02:56:42.639 --> 02:56:46.440 about the infamous Montreal screwjob, written in Shakespeare in English. 3204 02:56:52.680 --> 02:56:52.920 Ah. 3205 02:56:56.159 --> 02:57:04.120 So yeah, good luck getting a Sid book out. I 3206 02:57:04.959 --> 02:57:07.959 doesn't this guy sound the biggest nightmare in the world 3207 02:57:08.000 --> 02:57:08.399 to deal with? 3208 02:57:08.920 --> 02:57:12.959 I mean, seriously, sounds like just a complete I don't 3209 02:57:12.959 --> 02:57:23.000 even know. Ah, I mean I need this book. Yeah, 3210 02:57:23.000 --> 02:57:24.879 I think we need to find it. It sounds like 3211 02:57:24.959 --> 02:57:27.520 it's for a limited period of time it was out there. 3212 02:57:27.600 --> 02:57:31.040 It sounds like, but it's an important artifact. I haven't 3213 02:57:31.079 --> 02:57:34.280 seen really any evidence. I saw a screenship screenshot, but 3214 02:57:34.360 --> 02:57:36.399 a photo someone put up holding it with a cover 3215 02:57:36.520 --> 02:57:38.879 in their hand. But I haven't seen any indication that 3216 02:57:39.040 --> 02:57:43.120 what's it called again, what do you call the book 3217 02:57:43.680 --> 02:57:47.319 Poetry in the Sand? I mean, that's what he called 3218 02:57:47.319 --> 02:57:50.840 this book, Okay, poetry in the sand? Called this book 3219 02:57:52.120 --> 02:57:54.879 poetry in the sand? Or poetry in the sand? In 3220 02:57:55.040 --> 02:58:02.799 the sand? Yes, poetry in the Sand. I yeah, I 3221 02:58:02.840 --> 02:58:03.879 don't even know where to begin. 3222 02:58:05.600 --> 02:58:10.639 So perhaps sensing that the book was not necessarily forthcoming 3223 02:58:10.879 --> 02:58:14.000 in terms of wider distribution and no longer needing to 3224 02:58:14.200 --> 02:58:17.000 hold back on, you know, just talking openly and freely 3225 02:58:17.079 --> 02:58:18.680 on some of the details of his of his life 3226 02:58:18.719 --> 02:58:21.120 that he thought he'd save for the book. That that's 3227 02:58:21.120 --> 02:58:23.319 always the most frustrating part of any wrestler's life is 3228 02:58:23.319 --> 02:58:25.079 when they think they have a book coming that someone 3229 02:58:25.120 --> 02:58:27.840 wants to read, and they're interviewed one hundred times and 3230 02:58:27.879 --> 02:58:31.120 they withhold things, you'll have to read the book, Oh god, please, 3231 02:58:31.600 --> 02:58:33.600 I won't have to read the book. Say it now 3232 02:58:33.840 --> 02:58:36.200 or forever. Hold your piece, because you're really testing my 3233 02:58:36.319 --> 02:58:39.159 patience right now and my interest. In fact, you're making 3234 02:58:39.200 --> 02:58:41.239 me not want to buy the book so that you 3235 02:58:41.319 --> 02:58:44.280 don't get to win this fucking strange tug of war 3236 02:58:44.319 --> 02:58:48.600 who we're engaged in. But so he starts a podcast. 3237 02:58:48.879 --> 02:58:52.000 It's called The Vicious Circle, and the co host is 3238 02:58:52.799 --> 02:58:55.079 someone we've heard, you know, in snippets along the way, 3239 02:58:55.680 --> 02:58:59.079 and he starts talking about his career and his life 3240 02:58:59.239 --> 02:59:01.200 and his upbringing and color is and a lot of 3241 02:59:01.280 --> 02:59:03.840 things that we weren't sure about. For instance, why is 3242 02:59:04.040 --> 02:59:06.719 Washington state listed? It's his birthplace when he was such 3243 02:59:06.719 --> 02:59:09.639 an Arkansas boy and his family sharecroppers in the area 3244 02:59:10.280 --> 02:59:11.920 because he was born on an air Force base and 3245 02:59:12.079 --> 02:59:14.920 Washington was gone from that spot within a couple of 3246 02:59:15.000 --> 02:59:17.360 years and moved all around as his father, a hot 3247 02:59:17.399 --> 02:59:20.840 shit air Force pilot, flew all over the place and 3248 02:59:21.280 --> 02:59:23.559 thus leading to Sid's interest and ability and flying, but 3249 02:59:24.120 --> 02:59:27.200 definitely not the kind of you know relationship. It's just 3250 02:59:27.239 --> 02:59:29.760 like Scott Hall's relationship with his dad, you know, hot 3251 02:59:29.840 --> 02:59:32.920 shit army father, who he had a fair degree of 3252 02:59:32.959 --> 02:59:36.520 distance from, you know, and didn't really know all that well. 3253 02:59:37.840 --> 02:59:40.200 And so he gets to talking and he's going through 3254 02:59:40.239 --> 02:59:42.399 his career and at one point he takes us back 3255 02:59:42.440 --> 02:59:45.840 to Japan where he wrestled very briefly as Vicious Machine. 3256 02:59:45.840 --> 02:59:48.360 You remember this where he came in worked for Jinami 3257 02:59:48.399 --> 02:59:50.879 and Anoki and stuff, And my god, does he have 3258 02:59:50.959 --> 02:59:54.000 a whopper of a story that we have. The podcast 3259 02:59:54.120 --> 02:59:56.520 he launched in twenty twenty one, I believe it was 3260 02:59:57.159 --> 02:59:57.719 to thank for. 3261 03:00:00.040 --> 03:00:15.639 Sling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys need 3262 03:00:15.719 --> 03:00:33.760 their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's the Lapsed Fan 3263 03:00:33.840 --> 03:00:38.079 wrestling podcast with Jack and carn Seo m JP Soro. 3264 03:00:38.840 --> 03:00:41.520 I love Japan though, man, it was it was fun. 3265 03:00:41.520 --> 03:00:44.360 The only thing is you were over there, you were starving. 3266 03:00:44.440 --> 03:00:44.680 I was. 3267 03:00:44.799 --> 03:00:49.079 I took her big duffer bag of Danna sausages and 3268 03:00:49.559 --> 03:00:54.479 oh my god, chicken, devil hand chicken, devil chicken, all 3269 03:00:54.520 --> 03:00:57.280 that crappy stuff. Now the Vienna sausages. Will I go 3270 03:00:57.520 --> 03:00:59.840 to the Japanese. They take me out and feed me 3271 03:01:00.000 --> 03:01:05.000 all night. You come back, go, yeah, sausage, you want 3272 03:01:05.000 --> 03:01:05.559 to silence? 3273 03:01:08.600 --> 03:01:12.360 He took the Viennas to Japan. The Viennas weren't just 3274 03:01:12.440 --> 03:01:14.559 a thing that the church got him into. 3275 03:01:15.639 --> 03:01:17.920 They were they were what he needed to survive. Was 3276 03:01:17.959 --> 03:01:21.079 popping tops and the lady's intel. Can you imagine like 3277 03:01:21.200 --> 03:01:24.280 he's on a fucking plane, all right. You know, you're 3278 03:01:24.280 --> 03:01:30.079 sitting on a plane opposite this fucking behemoth, all right, 3279 03:01:30.280 --> 03:01:32.479 Like you're in the aisle and you're across the Offerman 3280 03:01:34.000 --> 03:01:35.879 and you know, he's just kind of like sitting there. 3281 03:01:36.000 --> 03:01:37.520 Number one, He's just sitting there. He does not have 3282 03:01:37.680 --> 03:01:44.920 any sort of entertainment, doesn't read, watch a movie, all right, 3283 03:01:45.239 --> 03:01:52.120 He just plaid shirt, yep, tugs in the jeans, baseball hat, 3284 03:01:52.920 --> 03:01:56.639 seat belt. He just sits there, seated like he's in restraints, 3285 03:01:57.200 --> 03:02:00.680 right and just staring ahead and not moving at all. 3286 03:02:04.799 --> 03:02:06.959 All right. Now, if you're sitting up on the opposite 3287 03:02:06.959 --> 03:02:08.719 aisle of him, like you keep looking over there and 3288 03:02:08.799 --> 03:02:12.639 you're you're obviously getting nervous, and so it's got to 3289 03:02:12.719 --> 03:02:16.120 be alarming when he finally makes the move to reach 3290 03:02:16.239 --> 03:02:20.559 down into his his his uh uh, you know, his 3291 03:02:20.719 --> 03:02:22.520 bag whatever you call it, the carry on and the 3292 03:02:22.559 --> 03:02:26.200 what personal personal bag, and you're like what the fuck? 3293 03:02:26.840 --> 03:02:28.680 You know, you're probably thinking he's gonna grab, like get 3294 03:02:28.719 --> 03:02:30.559 a bomb or a gun or something that was able 3295 03:02:30.600 --> 03:02:33.799 to smuggle on, but instead he pulls out a tiny 3296 03:02:34.159 --> 03:02:41.280 fucking can of Vienna sausages, fucking takes the key tab, 3297 03:02:42.479 --> 03:02:45.360 opens it up and you can, you know, and right 3298 03:02:45.479 --> 03:02:48.120 then there's a little bit of turbulence, so some of 3299 03:02:48.200 --> 03:02:52.760 the juice like flies out onto his tray, onto his uh, 3300 03:02:52.920 --> 03:02:56.760 you know, and so this is a little bit messed there. 3301 03:02:56.760 --> 03:02:58.920 And then he like he just takes his middle finger 3302 03:02:58.959 --> 03:03:03.920 and just wipes it off and licks his fingers and 3303 03:03:04.079 --> 03:03:07.799 then starts just putting his finger in the can and 3304 03:03:07.920 --> 03:03:17.120 taking out sausages and eating them. And that's what he does. 3305 03:03:17.200 --> 03:03:22.920 Like just you watch him because you can't not watch this, this, this, 3306 03:03:23.200 --> 03:03:30.040 this this complete ogre. You can't not watch him eat 3307 03:03:30.159 --> 03:03:35.360 these tiny little fucking penis sausages. That's what he does. 3308 03:03:37.000 --> 03:03:41.360 You watch him. And then when he's done, they come 3309 03:03:41.440 --> 03:03:43.520 over and you know, they're like, get your trash, any 3310 03:03:43.600 --> 03:03:46.120 trash you just puts it in there, and then he 3311 03:03:46.159 --> 03:03:54.920 goes back to sitting completely still horrifying, absolutely horrifying. Also 3312 03:03:55.040 --> 03:04:00.159 watching him eat worthy the Japanese. I guess so, oh, 3313 03:04:00.280 --> 03:04:04.879 I guess they're all. CID's coming. Oh, Vienna's in the hotel. 3314 03:04:05.159 --> 03:04:07.319 We got Vienna's a wrestler state. 3315 03:04:07.399 --> 03:04:09.559 It wasn't just Vienna. It's coming to find out. Sid 3316 03:04:09.719 --> 03:04:12.079 realized that if he ate some of this low grade food, 3317 03:04:12.159 --> 03:04:15.440 in front of the Japanese as a wrestling superstar. They 3318 03:04:15.479 --> 03:04:18.120 would take it quite personally and see do it that 3319 03:04:18.239 --> 03:04:20.799 Sid was fed some of the finer foods Japan. 3320 03:04:20.600 --> 03:04:23.040 Had to offer. God, and oh my god, let me. 3321 03:04:23.040 --> 03:04:25.920 Tell you, boss, it doesn't take very many cycles for 3322 03:04:26.040 --> 03:04:27.280 Sid to realize that trick. 3323 03:04:27.600 --> 03:04:29.559 I'm staying Toyo. 3324 03:04:31.680 --> 03:04:35.520 Tokyo Plaza, I think it was named hotel, and there's 3325 03:04:35.520 --> 03:04:38.200 where all the dignitaries were staying. And so I was, 3326 03:04:38.639 --> 03:04:40.399 you know, in the lobby, and every time I stood up, 3327 03:04:40.520 --> 03:04:41.959 everybody reached over to point. 3328 03:04:41.799 --> 03:04:46.920 A gun at me. Now tell my star know there 3329 03:04:47.000 --> 03:04:47.319 we were. 3330 03:04:47.799 --> 03:04:49.520 I mean, I just couldn't afford to eat that kind 3331 03:04:49.520 --> 03:04:51.520 of food. I'm trying to take every penny home with me, 3332 03:04:52.200 --> 03:04:55.000 and so I lost minisult white, and so I'd go 3333 03:04:55.079 --> 03:04:56.959 to the store and get me some peanut butter with 3334 03:04:57.079 --> 03:05:00.639 a new bananas and brand. I'd go down Bobby ate 3335 03:05:00.719 --> 03:05:03.079 these things that it was a big insult to the promoters. 3336 03:05:03.920 --> 03:05:06.319 First they see you lives in white. Then the fans 3337 03:05:06.319 --> 03:05:09.479 see me in the hotel, you know, peanut butter sandwiches, 3338 03:05:09.760 --> 03:05:11.559 so they'd get real upset, and they all take me 3339 03:05:11.600 --> 03:05:12.479 out to eat every night. 3340 03:05:13.000 --> 03:05:14.680 And I took advantage of that. Man. 3341 03:05:15.280 --> 03:05:17.719 I've talked about being an opportunitist, right, well, I did. 3342 03:05:17.840 --> 03:05:20.799 When I realized that work. I did that every chance 3343 03:05:20.879 --> 03:05:21.239 I could. 3344 03:05:21.399 --> 03:05:26.920 Man Sid sitting in the lobby of the hotel making 3345 03:05:27.000 --> 03:05:29.440 a show out of his peanut butter and banana sandwich, 3346 03:05:30.559 --> 03:05:34.440 knowing that it would hustle him another free, high class meal. 3347 03:05:35.440 --> 03:05:39.040 I don't see any problem with that. Gods how to 3348 03:05:39.079 --> 03:05:39.680 work the system. 3349 03:05:41.639 --> 03:05:45.680 August twenty sixth, twenty twenty four, it is with heavy 3350 03:05:45.719 --> 03:05:50.319 hearts that we announced the passing of Sydney Ray Udi, 3351 03:05:50.799 --> 03:05:54.319 who was born December sixteenth, nineteen sixty in Moses Lake, Washington. 3352 03:05:55.200 --> 03:05:58.399 He passed from this earth on August twenty sixth, peacefully 3353 03:05:58.639 --> 03:06:01.719 at home after a long, private and courageous battle with 3354 03:06:01.799 --> 03:06:06.319 non Hodgkins lymphoma and chronic heart issues. Sid was a 3355 03:06:06.360 --> 03:06:11.000 beloved husband, father, grandfather, son, brother, friend, and mentor. He 3356 03:06:11.159 --> 03:06:14.559 was known for his kindness, humor, generosity in living his 3357 03:06:14.719 --> 03:06:18.680 life on his own terms. Although he traveled the world wrestling, 3358 03:06:18.760 --> 03:06:21.600 his heart was always back home in Arkansas. He was 3359 03:06:21.719 --> 03:06:25.280 especially proud of his three grandchildren, Raylan Udy, Charlotte Udy, 3360 03:06:25.520 --> 03:06:28.920 and Frankie Udy. Who brought immense joy to their pauper's life. 3361 03:06:29.840 --> 03:06:32.079 Sid is survived by his wife, Sabrina, his two sons, 3362 03:06:32.159 --> 03:06:35.520 Frank Udy Ashton of Naples, Florida, and Gunner Udy Kelly 3363 03:06:35.639 --> 03:06:38.799 of Mary in Arkansas. His mother married Joe Howard. His 3364 03:06:38.920 --> 03:06:42.440 sisters Bobby Udy and Margot Udi had several nieces and nephews. 3365 03:06:42.600 --> 03:06:45.959 He is preceded in death by his father Bobby, Joe Udy, 3366 03:06:46.319 --> 03:06:50.159 his sister Christy Houghton, and his aunt Joyce Good. Though 3367 03:06:50.200 --> 03:06:54.079 his presence will be deeply missed, his memory will live 3368 03:06:54.120 --> 03:06:57.200 on in the hearts of all who knew and loved him. 3369 03:06:57.840 --> 03:07:00.280 In honor of Sid's life and legacy, the family kindly 3370 03:07:00.319 --> 03:07:03.920 requests donations be made to a cancer research foundation or 3371 03:07:03.959 --> 03:07:07.959 a heart health charity of your choice. Resting about the cathedral, 3372 03:07:08.559 --> 03:07:11.000 no well, Rest. 3373 03:07:10.799 --> 03:07:11.319 In peace, Sid. 3374 03:07:11.840 --> 03:07:15.000 Your battle is over, but your legacy will endure forever. 3375 03:07:16.239 --> 03:07:19.040 Sid was born December sixteenth, Boss, how close are we? 3376 03:07:20.000 --> 03:07:20.879 This may even drop on? 3377 03:07:21.159 --> 03:07:21.360 Wow? 3378 03:07:21.479 --> 03:07:26.239 What would have met his birthday? Yep, his son Gunner 3379 03:07:26.559 --> 03:07:28.680 was really the first to break the news. Most in 3380 03:07:28.760 --> 03:07:31.840 wrestling didn't have any idea Sid was even sick, because, 3381 03:07:31.879 --> 03:07:34.440 as we learned, with a leg break. But the health 3382 03:07:34.559 --> 03:07:37.079 is not. But he's not the picture of health. Sid 3383 03:07:37.159 --> 03:07:39.520 has a way of retreating, has a way of hiding, 3384 03:07:39.639 --> 03:07:42.719 as a way of uh seeing to it that others 3385 03:07:42.760 --> 03:07:45.959 don't know what he's going through. But suddenly, his son 3386 03:07:46.000 --> 03:07:49.040 Gunnar took the Facebook and posted the following earlier this year. 3387 03:07:50.360 --> 03:07:52.399 He was known as psycho Sid vicious to the world, 3388 03:07:52.479 --> 03:07:55.639 but to our family, he was simply Popper, the beloved grandfather. 3389 03:07:55.920 --> 03:08:02.719 I'm sorry, what now, popper? Yes, pop popper, like jalapeno popper, 3390 03:08:02.840 --> 03:08:07.840 like how those crowds popped incw there. Sid was diagnosed 3391 03:08:07.879 --> 03:08:17.280 with congest Yeah, they called him hullip. Sid, his father, 3392 03:08:17.440 --> 03:08:20.239 his son wrote, was diagnosed with congestive heart failure in 3393 03:08:20.319 --> 03:08:25.239 twenty sixteen. So during all that time, during those phone 3394 03:08:25.280 --> 03:08:28.959 calls and all that foolishness and everything, heart failure and 3395 03:08:29.239 --> 03:08:32.520 atrial fibrillation better known as aphib ah. Around the same time, 3396 03:08:33.079 --> 03:08:36.120 he was also given a pacemaker. In April twenty twenty one, 3397 03:08:36.159 --> 03:08:39.680 he was diagnosed with stage four non Hodgkins lymphoma, which 3398 03:08:39.760 --> 03:08:43.840 was linked to roundup weed killer. Although he never told 3399 03:08:43.879 --> 03:08:46.280 anyone about his fight against cancer, Sid lived his life 3400 03:08:46.319 --> 03:08:49.799 to the fullest attending the gym, boxing classes, making appearances 3401 03:08:49.840 --> 03:08:51.520 for his fans, and of course te ball games for 3402 03:08:51.600 --> 03:08:54.680 the kids. He passed away peacefully in his bed, leaving 3403 03:08:54.760 --> 03:08:57.959 behind a legacy of strength and determination. I've never met 3404 03:08:57.959 --> 03:08:59.840 anyone with a fraction of the strength as my father. 3405 03:09:00.319 --> 03:09:03.280 He truly was one of a kind. Thanks everyone for 3406 03:09:03.360 --> 03:09:05.959 the uplifting words and love. We definitely feel it. We 3407 03:09:06.040 --> 03:09:09.280 have received thousands of messages and are grateful for every 3408 03:09:09.319 --> 03:09:11.239 one of them. I don't have time to reply, but 3409 03:09:11.319 --> 03:09:13.440 I have to. I have read all of them. Thank you, 3410 03:09:13.719 --> 03:09:18.399 thank you, thank you, Signed Gunner Udy. Among the many 3411 03:09:18.440 --> 03:09:21.840 posts on Facebook reflecting on Sid's life and times, a 3412 03:09:21.879 --> 03:09:23.920 couple stood out. One by someone by the name of 3413 03:09:24.159 --> 03:09:26.200 TJ who wrote the memories I have from the House 3414 03:09:26.280 --> 03:09:29.399 and Marion. The one that sticks out the most is 3415 03:09:29.479 --> 03:09:31.040 being power bombed on the waterbed. 3416 03:09:32.000 --> 03:09:32.280 Wow. 3417 03:09:34.200 --> 03:09:37.159 This is one of Sid's former compatriots in the business 3418 03:09:37.639 --> 03:09:40.719 when he did the POB stable in Memphis power pro 3419 03:09:41.079 --> 03:09:44.280 between his wwfront and coming into WW in nineteen ninety nine. 3420 03:09:44.840 --> 03:09:47.159 By the way, shout out to the homie David Caminister, 3421 03:09:47.200 --> 03:09:49.000 who's able to find out that POB and the promotion 3422 03:09:49.079 --> 03:09:52.959 stood for pride of brotherhood, scintillating stuff. 3423 03:09:53.799 --> 03:09:55.360 That was the name of the wild. 3424 03:09:55.479 --> 03:09:57.719 We didn't know exactly what to call him. And there 3425 03:09:57.799 --> 03:09:59.719 was a wrestler in that stable along with Sid called 3426 03:09:59.719 --> 03:10:04.239 Stunt or Stumpy, who owns a barbecue restaurant not too 3427 03:10:04.280 --> 03:10:07.520 far from where Sid grew up and passed, called Stumpy's 3428 03:10:07.520 --> 03:10:10.799 Backyard Barbecue. And after Sid had a memorial service in 3429 03:10:10.840 --> 03:10:15.040 his hometown, Stumpy took to Facebook, it's been a whole 3430 03:10:15.120 --> 03:10:18.239 day since we laid you to rest, celebrated your life 3431 03:10:18.280 --> 03:10:20.719 here on earth, and paid our respects. You would have 3432 03:10:20.799 --> 03:10:21.680 been proud of your boys. 3433 03:10:21.879 --> 03:10:22.520 I know I was. 3434 03:10:23.079 --> 03:10:25.639 Frank gave an eloquent eulogy, and it's apparent he shares 3435 03:10:25.680 --> 03:10:27.959 your gift of telling stories that puts the listener back 3436 03:10:28.000 --> 03:10:30.799 in time. Gunner kept us all in line and made 3437 03:10:30.840 --> 03:10:33.559 sure everything was arranged perfectly. Obviously skills of yours he 3438 03:10:33.639 --> 03:10:36.680 shares Sid. You and I not only became friends and 3439 03:10:36.680 --> 03:10:39.799 wrestling partners, we became family. Part of being family is 3440 03:10:39.840 --> 03:10:41.559 we may not have always seen eye to eye, and 3441 03:10:41.680 --> 03:10:44.000 sometimes our pride got us, but we never failed to 3442 03:10:44.000 --> 03:10:45.959 come back around, check in and see each other for 3443 03:10:46.040 --> 03:10:46.760 who we really were. 3444 03:10:46.959 --> 03:10:55.959 Brothers. Time flew by fat What it's a brother? What 3445 03:11:01.840 --> 03:11:26.760 who Stumpy did? Wait, don't begin to push this tribute 3446 03:11:27.040 --> 03:11:31.319 to his wrestle Bady, a opponent horrified. 3447 03:11:33.959 --> 03:11:36.079 Help did do an interview with I think a barstool 3448 03:11:36.120 --> 03:11:38.559 podcast where he said I got along great with Suit, 3449 03:11:38.600 --> 03:11:39.920 I mean in the ring. The one thing I can 3450 03:11:39.920 --> 03:11:41.280 say about said is he took care of you. He 3451 03:11:41.399 --> 03:11:43.159 never hurt me in the ring. And then they said, yeah, 3452 03:11:43.200 --> 03:11:45.399 but he was critical of you in some shooting interviews, Hogan. 3453 03:11:45.799 --> 03:11:51.239 One thing that kind of cast me off guard is 3454 03:11:51.280 --> 03:11:53.000 all these guys, and there's several of them, not just 3455 03:11:53.079 --> 03:11:55.120 pointing out Sid, all these guys that I've worked with, 3456 03:11:55.319 --> 03:11:56.840 and all these guys that have done business with, all 3457 03:11:56.879 --> 03:11:58.719 of a sudden, in the twilight of their career, when 3458 03:11:58.760 --> 03:12:01.239 they're done, they do these shooting Hulk didn't know anything 3459 03:12:01.239 --> 03:12:03.200 about the wrestling business, or Hulk was an asshole, And 3460 03:12:03.280 --> 03:12:04.920 I'm like, man, I had no idea that we. 3461 03:12:04.959 --> 03:12:07.399 Felt like this. Sid did some of that towards the end, 3462 03:12:07.440 --> 03:12:09.879 but I would have never hold it against him because 3463 03:12:09.920 --> 03:12:15.399 I love Sid. Brother. Wow, No, I don't, but about 3464 03:12:15.399 --> 03:12:19.399 the Sid, dude, I'm just saying, Brother, you know, I 3465 03:12:19.479 --> 03:12:21.159 thought I knew one thing, and this is a problem 3466 03:12:21.200 --> 03:12:23.799 with the whole. You know exactly with everything? 3467 03:12:23.879 --> 03:12:24.079 Dude. 3468 03:12:24.120 --> 03:12:26.200 You know, I know I knew one thing, but I 3469 03:12:26.239 --> 03:12:29.239 don't know everything. And if I don't know everything, then 3470 03:12:29.479 --> 03:12:33.520 something's amiss. Brother. And can I ask you a question, Hulk? 3471 03:12:33.639 --> 03:12:36.520 When will you know if this is your last match? 3472 03:12:39.479 --> 03:12:41.079 I just won't know until I got out of the ring. 3473 03:12:42.159 --> 03:12:45.120 Time flew By Stump wrote faster than any of us 3474 03:12:45.159 --> 03:12:47.799 could imagine. The kids fishing in your pond, or their 3475 03:12:47.840 --> 03:12:51.879 punishments for bad behavior of cleaning the pond. Frank cleaned 3476 03:12:51.920 --> 03:12:56.639 the pond, digging fishing worms under the old tailgate. The 3477 03:12:56.719 --> 03:12:59.520 Bible stories you gave them that applied to life today. 3478 03:12:59.600 --> 03:13:02.799 The louder than thunder laugh when they would actually. 3479 03:13:02.680 --> 03:13:07.440 Silly with you. The hot padise the hot rolls at Lambert's. 3480 03:13:13.879 --> 03:13:17.120 Sit into it a hot roll, dowb I mean, we know, 3481 03:13:17.239 --> 03:13:20.280 damn well, get a picture like okay, the tablecloth is 3482 03:13:20.399 --> 03:13:24.239 like red and white checkered, right, oh yes, yes, and 3483 03:13:24.959 --> 03:13:27.959 so is the the napkin that holds the biscuits inside 3484 03:13:28.000 --> 03:13:34.239 the basket. And he like unfolds the the the linen covering, 3485 03:13:34.600 --> 03:13:36.920 and he peels a biscuit open and and and you 3486 03:13:37.000 --> 03:13:40.280 can see the steam and like the sunlight that's coming 3487 03:13:40.360 --> 03:13:44.200 in the room of where he's enjoying the hot roll. 3488 03:13:44.959 --> 03:13:51.680 Yeah again, loan at a table, all right, alone at 3489 03:13:51.719 --> 03:13:52.120 a table. 3490 03:13:52.840 --> 03:13:56.040 Many memories with my kids and more than that, they'll 3491 03:13:56.079 --> 03:13:58.479 never forget the days and hour spent with you at 3492 03:13:58.520 --> 03:14:03.959 the gym and the Chinese fa afterwards, hours of listening practice, 3493 03:14:04.000 --> 03:14:06.600 going over our next show, the hours in the ring together, Vick. 3494 03:14:07.120 --> 03:14:13.200 There's nothing like, you know, complimenting a good workout with 3495 03:14:13.479 --> 03:14:18.079 Chinese buffet, listening practice, going over our next show, the 3496 03:14:18.159 --> 03:14:20.760 hours in the ring together, the unforgettable trips out of town. 3497 03:14:20.879 --> 03:14:22.760 The pob will always live on and we will never 3498 03:14:22.840 --> 03:14:26.399 forget rip. Well done, my friend, Sid, Udy said Vicious 3499 03:14:26.399 --> 03:14:29.120 Psycho Sid, Sid Justice, my friend, my brother until we 3500 03:14:29.239 --> 03:14:34.200 meet again, Pride of brotherhood, Love Stump. Interestingly, there was 3501 03:14:34.239 --> 03:14:35.879 a billboard that went up not too long ago a 3502 03:14:36.000 --> 03:14:38.360 Times Square or around Times Square where a hip hop 3503 03:14:38.440 --> 03:14:40.520 artists by the name of West Side Gun just put 3504 03:14:40.559 --> 03:14:42.920 out an album called Still Praying, and the cover for 3505 03:14:43.000 --> 03:14:45.600 the project is just a picture of Sid in the ring. 3506 03:14:45.760 --> 03:14:50.879 Oh my god, Doriga's career, just standing there, you know, 3507 03:14:51.120 --> 03:14:55.239 with a Bental advisory explicit lyrics thing right up on it. 3508 03:14:56.280 --> 03:15:03.079 It's something to see. That's wild. As for. 3509 03:15:04.680 --> 03:15:09.360 You know, the family that Sid left behind, it's it's interesting. 3510 03:15:09.440 --> 03:15:12.200 You know, we talk about softball, and we joke about softball, and. 3511 03:15:14.120 --> 03:15:14.840 It is a joke. 3512 03:15:15.600 --> 03:15:19.479 I think we've established that the way he talked, the 3513 03:15:19.559 --> 03:15:23.520 way it factored into his life story and his wrestling 3514 03:15:23.600 --> 03:15:27.040 story is is hilarious but boss some. But then you 3515 03:15:27.120 --> 03:15:29.280 come across a picture like the one I just sent you, 3516 03:15:31.040 --> 03:15:34.639 Sid looking through the fence at a little league field 3517 03:15:35.280 --> 03:15:37.079 with I can only supposed to be as one of 3518 03:15:37.120 --> 03:15:40.639 his grandchildren, and he's wearing the exact shirt you talked about, Yep. 3519 03:15:40.719 --> 03:15:46.639 Exactly, He's worried a fucking plaid shirt. You know, I 3520 03:15:46.719 --> 03:15:49.319 bet that's you know, I bet I bet he doesn't 3521 03:15:49.360 --> 03:15:54.719 know who that kid is. Yeah, smiling down nick, random kid, Right, 3522 03:15:54.799 --> 03:15:59.559 you're probably right. You don't play softball. You won't know 3523 03:15:59.680 --> 03:16:08.239 something kid once. He's real, simple, ah amn is real. 3524 03:16:12.440 --> 03:16:13.879 And I think in a lot of ways, the guy 3525 03:16:14.000 --> 03:16:17.200 that shattered him his entire career in a lot of 3526 03:16:17.239 --> 03:16:20.760 ways and shared the ring with him. Connective tissue from 3527 03:16:21.200 --> 03:16:24.399 the earliest WCW days and the skyscrapers through to the 3528 03:16:24.559 --> 03:16:27.280 WWF and the top of the WWF, all the way 3529 03:16:27.360 --> 03:16:31.600 through into Sid's WCW Return the guy he probably headlined 3530 03:16:31.639 --> 03:16:34.239 with more than anybody and swapped more titles with Kevin 3531 03:16:34.280 --> 03:16:37.639 Nash himself put it this way visav Softball and VISA 3532 03:16:37.680 --> 03:16:40.319 V Life reflecting on the passing of Sid on this podcast. 3533 03:16:40.840 --> 03:16:45.760 Obviously he's right, he's he's passed on at sixty three 3534 03:16:45.799 --> 03:16:50.760 years old. He didn't miss those fucking softball games. He 3535 03:16:50.840 --> 03:16:52.639 went and did it what the fuck he wanted to do, 3536 03:16:53.399 --> 03:16:56.280 because when he was forty years old, fucking they wanted 3537 03:16:56.280 --> 03:16:58.799 to push him, and he said, I'm in the middle 3538 03:16:58.840 --> 03:17:01.719 of a tournament right now, and they all said, oh, 3539 03:17:01.799 --> 03:17:04.680 Sid don't know what the fuck he's doing. Well, when 3540 03:17:04.719 --> 03:17:07.159 Sid got brain cancer, he fucking I guarantee you if 3541 03:17:07.319 --> 03:17:10.920 I said, said, I am so fucking glad that I 3542 03:17:11.000 --> 03:17:13.360 didn't have these motherfuckers, glad. 3543 03:17:13.120 --> 03:17:16.440 I took that that I took, my time, took my 3544 03:17:16.600 --> 03:17:24.440 fucker did it his way, right, It's true. Yeah, yeah, 3545 03:17:25.639 --> 03:17:28.600 there is some truth in that, no question. And we 3546 03:17:28.719 --> 03:17:29.399 know Sid. 3547 03:17:31.280 --> 03:17:33.079 In his own way found God as a man who 3548 03:17:33.159 --> 03:17:36.159 self admittedly never went to church, did not interestingly enough, 3549 03:17:36.200 --> 03:17:37.680 considered the part of the country he grew up in, 3550 03:17:37.879 --> 03:17:40.360 and how conversing he seemed to be in that Israel 3551 03:17:40.479 --> 03:17:46.959 promo about Biblical verses and Pentecostal and Episcopalian denominations and using, 3552 03:17:47.399 --> 03:17:50.559 you know, his understanding of religion to get heat, not 3553 03:17:50.719 --> 03:17:55.479 somebody who was who's very, very church going. But we 3554 03:17:55.639 --> 03:17:59.559 know that eventually he found Saint Mary's Cathedral in Memphis, 3555 03:18:00.799 --> 03:18:04.520 he found the weekly pop top lunches. And I don't 3556 03:18:04.559 --> 03:18:07.360 know what to say other than for the last several 3557 03:18:07.440 --> 03:18:09.840 years of his life, there was a little more on 3558 03:18:09.959 --> 03:18:15.040 his mind than this church, in this meal program that 3559 03:18:15.760 --> 03:18:18.600 he found for for for the homeless and less fortunate 3560 03:18:18.639 --> 03:18:21.280 in Memphis. And I thought, in the spirit of that, 3561 03:18:21.319 --> 03:18:26.559 I'd put together a little final ode to a love 3562 03:18:26.639 --> 03:18:28.840 story the likes of which we never expected to uncover 3563 03:18:28.920 --> 03:18:34.799 here on our tribute to sid mister Judy's affection, bond 3564 03:18:35.120 --> 03:18:37.959 and holy matrimony the Viginnas. 3565 03:18:40.639 --> 03:18:43.559 He sent my church a case of Vienna sausages, and 3566 03:18:43.680 --> 03:18:48.920 I sent him an autograph picture. I'm not saying I'm 3567 03:18:48.920 --> 03:18:49.600 a Christian, but I. 3568 03:18:49.680 --> 03:18:52.680 Do go to church and into things I like. 3569 03:18:52.799 --> 03:18:54.440 During Saturday mornings, we go over there. 3570 03:18:55.200 --> 03:18:56.680 It's called pop tops. 3571 03:18:57.879 --> 03:18:58.639 To about nine. 3572 03:18:58.600 --> 03:18:59.520 Thirty weeks with them. 3573 03:19:00.120 --> 03:19:02.799 I'm bag the bags, got your kids being the sausages 3574 03:19:02.840 --> 03:19:04.319 and pack the packers a. 3575 03:19:04.399 --> 03:19:06.520 Moon town, a bottle of water, and they did a. 3576 03:19:06.479 --> 03:19:08.239 Little bag of ladies or something. 3577 03:19:08.680 --> 03:19:11.200 I think you out about either one hundred hundred of 3578 03:19:11.239 --> 03:19:18.799 those every Saturday, and if just in case, uh, there's 3579 03:19:18.840 --> 03:19:20.639 a there's a big fan of virus robb out there. 3580 03:19:20.639 --> 03:19:21.360 His name is Joe. 3581 03:19:21.479 --> 03:19:23.360 I don't remember his last name. 3582 03:19:23.479 --> 03:19:27.719 But he actually sent some either some Deanna sausages for 3583 03:19:27.840 --> 03:19:30.959 my charity or he sent some vitamins for my charity, 3584 03:19:31.239 --> 03:19:32.079 children's vitamins. 3585 03:19:32.239 --> 03:19:32.920 Oh really, and he. 3586 03:19:32.959 --> 03:19:35.319 Calls me all the times and bugs eat Pete, bugs 3587 03:19:35.360 --> 03:19:38.760 the ship out of me. But he's he's uh, he 3588 03:19:38.840 --> 03:19:43.159 moves from Washington. He's running away from the coronavirus. He 3589 03:19:43.280 --> 03:19:45.479 moved to Indianapolis outside of there and started he works 3590 03:19:45.520 --> 03:19:48.000 Worth casino and all of a sudden, now he's laid off. 3591 03:19:48.079 --> 03:19:49.879 You know, he's trying to move to my house. Joe, 3592 03:19:50.520 --> 03:20:02.120 you can't come here. Who's the deacon who? Again, he 3593 03:20:02.239 --> 03:20:04.600 doesn't get paid, never been paid, ten or twenty years. 3594 03:20:04.639 --> 03:20:06.600 He's been there af forget how long. But he's given 3595 03:20:06.639 --> 03:20:08.760 over two hundred and fifty thousand cans of Viennas over 3596 03:20:08.799 --> 03:20:18.280 the last ten years or so, that maybe in the 3597 03:20:18.360 --> 03:20:20.440 future we might all try to get the other together 3598 03:20:20.520 --> 03:20:23.760 and make a little drive sensivienna sausages or something like that. 3599 03:20:24.280 --> 03:20:24.399 You know. 3600 03:20:24.440 --> 03:20:27.440 I used to tell people to send Vienna's to them 3601 03:20:28.159 --> 03:20:29.840 because I didn't want to be in the middle. I 3602 03:20:29.879 --> 03:20:32.440 didn't want to receive money and nothing. But talking to 3603 03:20:32.520 --> 03:20:34.399 Drew about one of the things we could do, and 3604 03:20:34.479 --> 03:20:35.719 I don't what do you want to do it right now? 3605 03:20:35.879 --> 03:20:40.200 Till we get, you know, find more about it. That 3606 03:20:40.319 --> 03:20:42.760 we can send it to Saint Mary's Cathedral, to. 3607 03:20:42.840 --> 03:20:50.399 The church under under Drew woods Woodruff under discretionary funds, 3608 03:20:50.959 --> 03:20:53.120 and he could use that because we're able to go 3609 03:20:53.239 --> 03:20:56.000 now to what's called the food things, and we're instead 3610 03:20:56.000 --> 03:20:58.559 of paying forty to fifty cents acand of Vienna's, we're 3611 03:20:58.600 --> 03:21:01.120 able to pay a pen times for them if they 3612 03:21:01.200 --> 03:21:03.120 have them, you know, because you buy it by the pound. 3613 03:21:10.040 --> 03:21:12.000 It's pretty tough to to someone know they can't have 3614 03:21:12.079 --> 03:21:20.399 a Canavannas? All right? 3615 03:21:20.479 --> 03:21:20.600 Is it? 3616 03:21:20.760 --> 03:21:21.920 Any last words? 3617 03:21:22.959 --> 03:21:23.000 No? 3618 03:21:23.360 --> 03:21:26.280 I just want everyone to that are interested for this 3619 03:21:26.520 --> 03:21:28.360 is you know, the new year, and let's I'll keep 3620 03:21:28.399 --> 03:21:31.399 ourselves with that thought in mind, and let's try to 3621 03:21:31.440 --> 03:21:33.319 do more positive things. I do want to say something 3622 03:21:33.319 --> 03:21:37.319 real quick too. I'm not sure. One day this month, 3623 03:21:37.360 --> 03:21:40.040 I'm going to be doing a radio broadcast with the 3624 03:21:40.360 --> 03:21:42.399 bishop of our church, and they're going to talk about 3625 03:21:43.559 --> 03:21:46.040 what we do on Wednesdays and Saturday mornings is called 3626 03:21:46.079 --> 03:21:49.479 pop tops. The pop top means exactly that it's either 3627 03:21:49.520 --> 03:21:52.040 a Canaviannas or a Canna tuna or a spam or 3628 03:21:52.120 --> 03:21:55.159 something like that. We put in a bag, pack of crackers, 3629 03:21:55.520 --> 03:21:59.440 a bottle of water, h maybe a moon pie, bag 3630 03:21:59.520 --> 03:22:02.200 of raising. That's what we give to people that, you know, 3631 03:22:02.840 --> 03:22:05.079 you know, homeless. I don't like to use the word homeless. 3632 03:22:05.680 --> 03:22:07.799 We like to say the ones that are miss unfortunate. 3633 03:22:07.920 --> 03:22:18.719 Right now, I think we all hope, boss, that we 3634 03:22:18.799 --> 03:22:26.479 can find our own can of Viennas, don't we. I mean, 3635 03:22:26.520 --> 03:22:27.479 that's that's the dream. 3636 03:22:34.360 --> 03:22:41.280 N know. 3637 03:22:43.639 --> 03:22:45.920 I had it on. I had you know, my mute 3638 03:22:45.920 --> 03:22:48.120 button on because I just want to let that play out. 3639 03:22:48.200 --> 03:22:54.600 But I was hurting, hurting every time he fucking talked 3640 03:22:54.600 --> 03:23:04.079 about Vienna's. I mean, what the fuck, hosages? 3641 03:23:09.520 --> 03:23:12.079 I didn't expect when we launched our tribute to Sid, 3642 03:23:12.639 --> 03:23:14.399 after all the memories he gave us in the ring 3643 03:23:15.079 --> 03:23:17.559 and then being so formative during the Galory days, the 3644 03:23:17.639 --> 03:23:24.000 Golden era, the Hasbro era, that after tribute and serenading 3645 03:23:24.360 --> 03:23:27.040 that another gift he would give us is we can 3646 03:23:27.120 --> 03:23:30.040 never look at a can of Vienna's on a shelf 3647 03:23:30.120 --> 03:23:33.920 and a family dollar the same again. I'm gonna think 3648 03:23:33.959 --> 03:23:38.680 of this man whenever I see any canned meet for 3649 03:23:38.799 --> 03:23:43.239 the rest of my life. And a possession that Sid 3650 03:23:44.520 --> 03:23:47.840 valued towards his final days and his twilight, and a 3651 03:23:47.879 --> 03:23:49.559 lot of people didn't know was his twilight when he 3652 03:23:49.680 --> 03:23:53.159 was doing things like this, but it was was get 3653 03:23:53.200 --> 03:23:56.920 his hands on another tractor, said in his podcast, you 3654 03:23:57.000 --> 03:24:01.200 know the other day, got a tractor. Got that gonna 3655 03:24:01.280 --> 03:24:06.600 landscaping business pretty much, it's just tractors doing a lot 3656 03:24:06.639 --> 03:24:10.040 of bush hogging. And said also got him some commercial 3657 03:24:10.079 --> 03:24:11.520 property and residential property. 3658 03:24:11.799 --> 03:24:16.159 Got a good crew. You know, before he got into wrestling, 3659 03:24:16.920 --> 03:24:17.680 he was a farmer. 3660 03:24:18.840 --> 03:24:21.399 He would walk with his childhood friend and follow the 3661 03:24:21.479 --> 03:24:23.319 railroad tracks and hunt their way all the way to 3662 03:24:23.360 --> 03:24:27.479 the Mississippian back and it'spent hours and hours and hours 3663 03:24:27.520 --> 03:24:30.520 in the brush and the fields and the planes and 3664 03:24:30.559 --> 03:24:34.559 all the rest, and he went through to years as 3665 03:24:34.680 --> 03:24:39.680 a chemical salesman in the agricultural business, cited all those 3666 03:24:39.719 --> 03:24:42.600 years later as perhaps a contributing cause of his cancer. 3667 03:24:43.680 --> 03:24:47.319 But for said, you know, even if it ironically wasn't 3668 03:24:47.319 --> 03:24:49.440 the wrestling business that got him, though it certainly did 3669 03:24:49.520 --> 03:24:52.440 him in if it was in fact the other career, 3670 03:24:52.680 --> 03:24:57.680 the parallel life he led, the Bucolic farm life that 3671 03:24:57.760 --> 03:25:02.120 he led his true north after all of a sudden, 3672 03:25:02.200 --> 03:25:03.319 done nothing. 3673 03:25:03.079 --> 03:25:03.479 Better for me. 3674 03:25:03.559 --> 03:25:05.959 In the morning, get it at three thirty, go to 3675 03:25:06.040 --> 03:25:09.040 the gym, be home by six thirty, and be on 3676 03:25:09.159 --> 03:25:11.760 my tractor heading to the field about six forty five. 3677 03:25:12.479 --> 03:25:14.000 That to me was one of the greatest feelings of 3678 03:25:14.000 --> 03:25:16.120 the world. Is already had half a day by me, 3679 03:25:16.479 --> 03:25:18.879 and as sun rises and I'm going out there and 3680 03:25:19.000 --> 03:25:21.000 I'm starting the second part of my day at six 3681 03:25:21.159 --> 03:25:23.479 thirty when everybody else is still asleep. And that's what 3682 03:25:23.600 --> 03:25:25.719 you get as a farmer. It's that kind of gratification. 3683 03:25:26.319 --> 03:25:28.520 And I love those days like that, you know. I 3684 03:25:28.600 --> 03:25:31.280 love being out in the field like that. And it's 3685 03:25:31.319 --> 03:25:32.639 been a lot of fun doing that, you. 3686 03:25:32.680 --> 03:25:33.079 Know, Boss. 3687 03:25:33.159 --> 03:25:35.159 We started this TLF tribute to Sid, who in so 3688 03:25:35.239 --> 03:25:39.000 many ways is his tlfx's at Cats Good Story couldn't 3689 03:25:39.760 --> 03:25:43.239 be a better fit to enter our tenth year of podcasting. 3690 03:25:44.120 --> 03:25:46.559 We started this wondering how this man was able to 3691 03:25:46.639 --> 03:25:48.719 go around for so many years saying I am the 3692 03:25:48.879 --> 03:25:52.040 Master and the Ruler of the world. Yes, and no 3693 03:25:52.079 --> 03:25:54.280 one batter Dean I. No one let out a chuckle. 3694 03:25:54.680 --> 03:25:57.120 No one seemed to think that the phrase, despite being 3695 03:25:57.239 --> 03:26:01.879 patently absurd, strain credulity all after taking stock of his 3696 03:26:02.000 --> 03:26:04.799 life and times. Maybe the reason, Boss, I think I 3697 03:26:04.879 --> 03:26:08.600 got it that it never seemed like a stretch for 3698 03:26:08.719 --> 03:26:10.840 Sid to claim that he was the Master and the 3699 03:26:10.920 --> 03:26:15.760 ruler of the world. Maybe it was because he was 3700 03:26:15.799 --> 03:26:20.000 in his own world all along, And in the final analysis, 3701 03:26:20.639 --> 03:26:25.639 it seems everyone was grateful for the time that they 3702 03:26:25.760 --> 03:26:27.559 got to spend in it with him. 3703 03:26:29.760 --> 03:26:33.200 Leading announcement as a teach to Santus Production its contents 3704 03:26:33.280 --> 03:26:34.959 is intended for private use only.