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Speaker 1: It's the Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and carn

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Speaker 2: He's a lapsed fan and all my years and wrestling,

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I never seen anything.

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Speaker 3: And it's the laps fan name by the one in

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the ring.

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Speaker 2: Forget about Slado. He the real king of swing. When

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the bell goes in and the kick like me throwing

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in the corner. But it's lash like stick. Even Jerry

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King can sake off the crowd. Nodded in his head

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like it. Steve low Brown, would you get low down?

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Speaker 4: Go even high up?

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Speaker 2: Flipp you on your head?

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Speaker 5: But you know cool driver, you speak more now and

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dragon spits fire give you more shock than when head

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treats higher drop a more truth than the con of

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sniper unless you would a coconut.

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Speaker 2: Roddy Piper, Jack a JP.

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Speaker 5: He like j y d drop the cupcakes and gold

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the brain Bob means the best podcast Frost start the

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close cloud.

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Speaker 2: If you are a classic a.

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Speaker 6: Pos it has to end. A life of Sid has

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to end, and therefore the TLF tribute.

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Speaker 2: To Sid has to end. Boss. Yes, yes, it's fair enough, fair.

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Speaker 6: Enough TLFX, and it's fitting because as this you know prototypical,

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quintessential tlf treatment of a subject that I think in

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Sid is as TLFX as it gets.

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Speaker 2: Really, I mean, well, you know what, you know what

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just something just hit me right now? What was our first.

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Speaker 6: Show SummerSlam ninety one when he made his debut, Yes,

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when he first made his impression upon us as fans.

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Speaker 2: Right when he shows face out the curtain, you know,

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situated as we were at the time as w W fans. Yep.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's the more I go through this, the

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more I realize, like Sid's career touches the stuff that

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we were we were steeped in before we ever hit

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record for.

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Speaker 2: The lapsed fan right exactly.

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Speaker 6: These are the places we could go to without even

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having to do much in the way of research, to

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be able to talk for hours and hours about true

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and there was a lot was there more to Sid

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And it made it that work, and it made it

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that much more rewarding to learn all of that because

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we started from the base you're talking about, yep. This

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is somebody that we didn't have to force ourselves to

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care about or discover. And the way people talked about

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him after his passing and the unique qualities that he

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brought to the business in terms of charisma, in terms

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of being able to draw people, in in terms of

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being able to stay paid and employed despite being by

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all accounts, one of the biggest pains in the ass

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to ever sign a wrestling contract. If he even did

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sign a contract, which wasn't always the case, yet he stayed.

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even when that next move couldn't have been a step forward, because,

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as we talked about last time in our penultimate episode,

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the leg snap in two thousand and one completely transformed

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to not only the fans SID to be, but who

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Sid saw himself to be. Because if he has to

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be on the shelf for all these months, in fact

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years before he could even do something resembling a wrestling

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match again, for someone who didn't even want to leave

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the house unless he looked completely jacked like a fucking

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Marvel superhero, it took a mental toll, if not just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 6: And he talked about all the legal ramifications and how

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that all went sort of a round trip for Sid

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as he tried to pick up the pieces after WCW

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closed and he was mending his broken wheel. But now

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on the final leg of our tribute to Sid, we're

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going to take stock of what happened after he could

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but it might as well have been.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because he did he did do some like

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some quick things. Didn't didn't he beat like didn't he

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Speaker 6: I wanted to leave that unset to see if you

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would remember, because I wasn't sure how much of an

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impact that actually made. But yes, when the mine wants

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to say we never saw Sid again after you know

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ninety seven, you have to check yourself because that's not true.

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on a couple of times, and I remember him beating

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one man later, the one the one man can right,

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the one man shit canned as it were. But yeah,

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he was going through that whole thing where he was

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coming out and just getting like bulldozed by legends. It

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was part of a campaign to build the one thousandth

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episode of raw in twenty twelve, right right, Vader had

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come back for one shot, Piper had come back, and

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in twenty twelve, so he could like call the guys

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de crepit and they could, you know, sort of play

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dumb and pretend that they weren't making fun of people

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that they were bringing back, when of course they were.

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Speaker 2: They were just doing it through a.

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Speaker 6: Heel announcer voice, so they felt like it wasn't justifying.

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a framework where they were essentially mocking the people that

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Speaker 2: Oh God, and for.

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Speaker 6: Sid, who saw himself out foxing Vince at every turn

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in his career, it certainly was a hilarious finish there

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in twenty twelve. But yes, we will get there. Sid

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Speaker 2: Did not make any like kind of one off appearances,

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not with that he wrestled, but he just kind of

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showed up and looked like a goof on WWE.

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Speaker 6: I don't think so, no, not that I can recall.

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I think he made a single appearance other than the

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one you're referencing, and we'll chart what he was doing

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in the business and in his life here as we serenade.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we know what he was doing. He was taking

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care of Vienna's and fucking taking care of the.

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Speaker 6: Taking care of that was quite later, but yes, he

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did get around to that eventually. It does become a

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Speaker 2: We're excited to get there. It's like it's like The

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Third Man, the movie The Third Man. I wanted to

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tell you about old Vienna.

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Speaker 6: Right, But we're obliged to say if sid is as

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TLFX as it gets, and if twenty twenty four has

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been just a true monument to ten years of the

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Lapsed Fan, if you were to pick a year where

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this podcast gets the recognition it deserves, you would think

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it would be on our tenth year anniversary, Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so. It would make sense to me.

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Speaker 6: Vince has taught us the importance of ten year anniversaries

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with WrestleManias and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Russell Mania's so.

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Speaker 6: Mammy is a big time reset period. So we're obliged

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to mention right off the top. If you haven't seen

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the news as we record this, it should have been

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abundantly clear in our social media and other social media

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channels that the folks at the Sports Podcast Group have

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seen fit to nominate this very podcast for Wrestling Podcast

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of the Year for two twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Now we're up.

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Speaker 6: Against diff competition and it is a process through which brother.

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Speaker 2: What ogen Ogen's podcast that'd be that I would feel threatened.

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Speaker 6: There, not Hogan's but other luminaries.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's.

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Speaker 6: There's no need to delineate them. But do know that

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this comes down to fan voting. This comes down to

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this is a volume game, and we've always been quality

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over quantity around here. It's why we are who we are.

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If we chased quantity from the beginning in terms of

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number of listeners, my god, would this show sucked, just

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like ninety eight percent of wrestling podcasts that have ever

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been created. But we found a niche of people who

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were willing to put cheddar on the table to support

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hardcore podcasting on this sport shelf life podcasting, and we've

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perfected it and we've introduced it as basically the only

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reason to do a wrestling podcast beyond you know, covering

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the vicissitudes of what happened this week. You know, with

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all due respect to the podcast to focus on the

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current product, they will never be listened back to in

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ten years, right, and they're not designed to. But we're

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designed to go up on the fucking Library of Congress

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in a wrestling context. And so that podcast absolutely, of course,

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at least once, deserves to be called the wrestling podcast

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of the year.

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Speaker 2: Agreed.

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Speaker 6: I think you know hard pressed would you be hard pressed?

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Would you be to find someone you really respect would

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disagree with that? And so we on the doorstep of

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this final leg of one of the most quintessential things

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we've done, one of the most quintessential hashtag lapsed things

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we've done, this sprawling tribute to sid that has just

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grown different heads and arms and legs, well maybe not legs,

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as we've gone. Now more than ever, on the tenth anniversary,

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this is the time to exercise yourself, to exercise your

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friends and family, to exercise anyone you've ever introduced the

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podcast to, anyone who's aware, even if they don't listen

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to us or religiously of the impact, that we have

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paid unpaid anyone in the sound of our voice and

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two three four six degrees beyond. You must go to

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the Sports Podcastgroup dot com website that is Sports Podcastgroup

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dot com and what they do is the Sports Podcast Awards.

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It's across several different categories. All the major sports are represented.

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Were up for Best Wrestling. It's very obvious who should win.

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And of course it's not something that we ever spend

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We don't have to rally them. Yeah, but this might

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be the exception because there's nothing more TLFX I can

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think of. And then we'll walk away, you know, we'll

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be happy. It's like, all right, if we want to

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lean in, we can demonstrate the dominance that we all

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know vibrates beneath the surface of what we do every

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time we pick up the microphone. And if there's a

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third party acknowledgment opportunity for that, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I heard what you said there, third party acknowledgment.

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That's what I've been striving for my whole life. Jesse.

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Speaker 6: I think what I'm trying to say is, if we

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don't win Best Wrestling Podcasts in the Sports Podcast Award,

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it's because they wouldn't let us in the debates.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the idea, because I know you'd win, they

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know we'd win. We know we'd win. You know we'd win.

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So let's just do it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 6: Let's make each other proud as much as Maker co

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chairman proud and vot the Lapsed Fan the Best Wrestling

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Podcast of the Year and the Sports Podcast Group Sports

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Podcast Awards for the Year twenty twenty four. I can't

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think of a better year to do it. Agreed, Agreed,

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fucking Let's go home. Let's show them the power of

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what we're talking about, and let's knock on doors. Let's

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use some shoe leather if you will. Let's campaign, because

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remember this was an election year, and what a campaign

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it was. The TLFX games that came down to crown

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and Lapsed Vince the greatest character in Lapsed Fan history.

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There's been a lot of a lot of campaign energy

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around the podcast this year.

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it's very true done.

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what it is we're about. A lot of message refinement

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has gone on this year through things like the TLFX

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testimonials that we've been proud to share, as listeners from

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across the Solar System have put down in their own words,

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why this means so much the live show we did

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in Philadelphia this year which laid bare the in the

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city of brotherly love and that founding American city, how

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foundational our ethos is to why even bother doing a

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wrestling podcast? So you know what to do? Do it

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Sports Podcast Awards, So the twenty twenty five edition, because

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you're going to be able to vote all the way

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through into the new year and into and through January.

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But make it happen. It's the way it simply has

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to be. They've they've they've realized that we belong in

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this category. Yep, and show them, show them. Not only

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what they have done by.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's just say they have no fucking idea.

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Speaker 6: Smiling upon the Solar system, prepare for beams of effervescent light.

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Speaker 2: In terms of me most importantly, the what they haven't

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realized what they've done is that they have they have

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opened the door, Yes to unrefined, pure, uncut, uncensored pain.

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Speaker 6: Pain that acknowledgment that pain is the only point. Yes,

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that until you get to the point of pain, you're

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kidding yourself and everybody else is kidding themselves.

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Speaker 2: Pain makes you no pleasure, right, pain is pleasure. You're

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gonna say pain helps you process pleasure. No, you went

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right to it.

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Speaker 6: That wasn't even a three headed monster there. You know,

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once you go yeah, you guys are the best podcast,

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then it's like, it's it's really hard to take it back.

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they fall into our favor and then for whatever reason,

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they just decide it's cooler to like not like us,

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and it's hard for them because they know that at

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one point in time they kissed the ring.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you know what I think of it as this

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is its adolescence, right. You know, you don't when you're

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an adolescent, when you're in that in that age of

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between ten and eighteen, you don't want to admit that

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mommy and daddy are right, and you will.

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Speaker 6: Go to absurd lengths to try to demonstrate that they're wrong,

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absurd lengths, self destructive lengths even in some cases.

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Speaker 2: But you always come home.

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Speaker 6: The door is always willing to swing open when you

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come around, and nothing needs to be said, yep, because

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we love you unconditionally. Right, That's right, that's right, and

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so return the Favor Sports Podcast Awards TLFX. Let's really

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bring this motherfucker home, and let's bring home our tribute

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to Sid.

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Speaker 2: What do you say, I think it's I think it's

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basically heard nothing from him for several years in terms

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of like high profile wrestling appearances, especially through two thousand

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and one. Like he said, he changed his phone number.

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and get the story over and over again. And for

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someone who takes his physical well being as seriously as

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conversation he's interested in having. Eighteen thousand times, so he

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falls off the map. People don't even necessarily know what's

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who sort of tried to pick up the pieces of

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the WCW talent that weren't.

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Speaker 2: I remember that happening when we were in college, right,

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that's right. It would have been a two thousand and

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two Okay. They brought in Randy Savage and I think

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Jeff Jarrett as well, right just before like it was

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going to become clear that TNA was going to be

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that was available in the United States that they did.

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and so it was thought that this would be you know,

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the subject of, or rather the center of, something that

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if the fans over there were willing to support something

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other than WWF, which it appeared they were. Go back

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to the tnh journey right before he goes into TNA,

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he does the Hogan Tour Australia and works with the

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Rick Flair, right, because that was just the wrap on

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that market. As you could make money there still with

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the cast of characters that WCW had at the very end,

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and so at one point they go through some commissioners,

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Brett Hart and then Sid. Sid was a commissioner for

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the WWA, but he didn't do anything that resonated. He

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didn't do anything that was considered like a highlight or

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a promo. It's not the UWF match he had with

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us Steve Williams. Yeah he did it, but it's not

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like he said or did anything that was money about

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it that would live on on YouTube necessarily or anything

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like that. So I really don't consider it a return

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though it was the first time he popped his head

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up after snapping his leg at Sin about a full

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year and a half after happened, but then he just

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in a shoot interview with our video. They didn't have

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like a great roster of people to put up that

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they were, you know, presenting to potential sponsors. Potential broadcast partners,

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whatever the case may be. They have a lot of

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guys locked up, and he said that Jeff Jarrett called

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him and asked him. The way Sid put it is,

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he gave TNA a letter of recommendation. Only Sid would

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call it a letter of recommendation, Oh my god, basically saying, yeah,

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you can say I'm working for the company, you can

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associate my name with this as you're trying to get

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something going business wise. But at the time, he's on

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a walker, and according to Sid, they're shopping his name

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around as one of the wrestling luminaries that could be yours.

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If you support this, I'm sure Jeff Jarrett would absolutely

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disagree with that. SID has talked big shit about Jeff

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Yard as well. But you know, they used Hogan's name

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as if they were going to do a Hogan Jarrett

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match in two thousand and three and it never happened.

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they struggle to get traction with pay per view providers

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and things, to just throw any name against the wall,

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even if it was a soft commitment from someone who

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couldn't even walk.

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Speaker 2: It's just a fucking I don't know it just that

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whole thing. I don't know, it's it's it's funny. I

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guess what I I guess. What's funny to me is

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how even how how desperate wrestling promoters are when it

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comes to name talent. Yeah, who may or may not

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have ever drawn actual money, you know, but they have

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a name, and so even if they're well over the

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hill in terms of what they can actually offer, it's

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it's so it's fascinating to me how how organizations are

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so desperate bring in and and in a way they don't.

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aw and whatnot, but they don't necessarily build new talent up.

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It's always let's rely on the old fucking guys. Who

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can you know, who have been quote unquote successful. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think when you're triple funding together, it helps to

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put people in front of financiers.

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Speaker 2: Who have Yeah. Yeah, I suppose that heard of it. Yeah,

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you know what, I'll admit, I don't think of it

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in terms of like in terms of like, you know,

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trying to get people to I think of it as, oh,

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I've already got money. But when you're trying to get money,

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you need that kind of shit, and that's very true.

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Speaker 6: Well, what's interesting is, you know, Tony Kanad money and

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he still goes for every WW guy I can get

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his hands on and woman. You know, so it's sort

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of like it's.

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Speaker 2: Like a yeah, but how many of them were actual draws?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I know? Yeah, fucking gets.

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Speaker 6: It's like a disease with no qre kind of thing

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because if anyone would have done, it would have been him.

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primarily WW when you look at them, despite his attempts

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to kind of them. But yeah, so yeah, point taken.

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But if you try to get something off the ground

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and approach with a list of guys that are going

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to be huge stars in ten years but nobody's heard of, ah,

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I'll take a pass of that. That doesn't seem like

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the best place to invest my money. Jeff, thank you, though,

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who's aj styles?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 8: So you did so?

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Speaker 6: I guess that was part of that's the extent of

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Sid's TNA involvement. I mean, he had said that all

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the things I did to help those guys, they called

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and asked me to come in and do some things.

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But I wasn't honest with them, he said. One time

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in a shoot interview, he said he told him I

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don't want to work for those guys unless I know

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I'm not going to work for Vince because I wouldn't

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do something small. This poor guy on a walker still

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thinks that Vince gives a shit about him. He still

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thinks that in the end, Vince is going to be

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the one that needs him more than he needs Vince.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm want to tell you something. So so Vincent

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May has said one hundred and fifty cans of Vienna

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is the cathedral? Correct? And I sent him an autograph picture.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you didn't send him an autographed contract, though, did you?

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Because because one wasn't one was never offered.

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Speaker 2: I said he was going to put my picture on

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a contract, and then why I didn't have to sign it?

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Bucker still get paid. Have you seen this man kind

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of picture? Have you seen? Let me have you have

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we can we put this up on the Listen. I

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want to put this picture, this signed autographed picture of

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Sid down at the front desk of Titan Towers. Do

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not allow this man in all right, do not allow

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Sid in the building. If you see him, shoot him.

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Speaker 6: It's like when it came over the loudspeaker when he

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fired Warrior. Remember Tom Fleming, the w.

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Speaker 2: W F artist. Oh my god, Yeah, the interview with

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us about it.

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Speaker 6: It's like all of a sudden, he's working on stuff

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for a Warrior and then Vince's they no voice comes

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over the headquarter wide intercom. Weird, no anger doing business

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with Ultimate Warrior. Please see sect anything in motion regarding.

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Speaker 2: U UH employees of Titan Sports Incorporated, Corporate, I would

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like corporate. There's an echo employees of Titan Sports Incorporated.

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This is Vincent Kennedy McMahon, the owner, CEO, head han

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show of sorts of the of the organization. I I'm

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I'm I'm for those of her here who don't know

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who Vince is. I've been the I've been involved in

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this business since the nineteen seventy. We are a multi

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uh functional conglomerate of media enterprise, and I just wanted

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to let every or know that we are currently no

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longer using the services and talents of the Ultimate Warrior.

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Thank you have a good holiday. Of course, of course

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it's the last message before a holiday break. Actually it

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would have been right because we've been around Thanksgiving. It's true.

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It's true. Didn't even think of that. That was just

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a whim but we.

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Speaker 6: Are in the holiday season. I do kind of adore

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the idea of like full time WWF staff who like

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don't care about wrestling, but they have skills WWF us

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and they live practice approximate to Standford, Connecticut working there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's like, you know, it's funny. It

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reminds me of of all the people who you know,

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when I was at when I when I was in

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LA and I worked at Sony or not at Sony,

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but when I was working on the Sony lot, talking like,

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there are all these people who are just working regular jobs,

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but they just happen to be at a movie studio, right,

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you know, you need to have that those those jobs

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like accountants and and whatever who really have no impact

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on the actual and have no interest maybe to do

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but you know, not necessarily any interest in the actual

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runnings of the studio. But they just happened their job

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just happens to be at the studio.

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Speaker 6: I mean, those people have always been the subject of

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endless fascination to me, and just the idea that they

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got benefits, they got Christmas vacations, you know, right, And

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the wrestlers who make the whole thing go round couldn't

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even dream of having the same track link from an

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employment perspective as these people who hated wrestling or not hated,

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who are indifferent to the actual product that you know,

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that that made the machine run.

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Speaker 2: Just fascinating. That to me, that is the bigger thing

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because in my mind because if you if you hate wrestling,

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I can see you kind of working at a wrestling company.

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If you love wrestling, I can see you working at

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a wrestling company. If you're indifferent, those are the people

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that I'm that are truly fascinating, because how the fuck

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did you get this job?

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Speaker 6: They answer a one ad for graphic designer and it

475
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,880
happens to be you know, near fucking Long Island or

476
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,559
wherever they grew up.

477
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: You know, they need a janitor, they need whatever, you know,

478
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,119
all those all those businesses need those things every day

479
00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:13,640
everyday jobs. Let's not kid ourselves a baby job. We're

480
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,839
talking about every day job.

481
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 6: I don't that's a one ad. He's not answering, right,

482
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,960
but my jobing brother, it's not kid ourselves. Job board,

483
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,240
what do you mean? What what do you set that

484
00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:30,240
up at the tapings?

485
00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:30,559
Speaker 8: Dude?

486
00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: Like, what do you what do you mean like someone's

487
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,359
gonna like like a wooden board people laid out on

488
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,079
or two? That are we talking about? It's a job board?

489
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 6: What is that where you put the names up of

490
00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:41,279
people doing a job? Is ul Hogan's name on there?

491
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I think who's put who's putting the names

492
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,559
up on the job.

493
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 6: Here's my thing, brother, I understand you're saying I'm none

494
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,680
on the job board, But the way my mind works

495
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,759
is why didn't I know of the existence of such

496
00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:52,519
a thing as a job board in the first place.

497
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:53,839
If it wasn't a way to do an end run

498
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,079
around Ulshogan right ill would know what that I would

499
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:58,839
know what it was.

500
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: The thing is, too, I want to know exactly why

501
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,160
people are doing this behind my back exactly.

502
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,559
Speaker 6: That's I don't really care what the job board is.

503
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,400
I care why I'm not told about it exactly, you know.

504
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:11,599
So I want to know why I'm not told about

505
00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:13,599
these things. I want to why people are trying to

506
00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:20,400
beat Hulk Hogan because he okay, he goes like, I

507
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,319
don't care if I'm jobbing or not. I just care

508
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,039
about the secret to the secretiveness of it. And then

509
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:26,519
he comes right back around and says, I want to

510
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:28,880
know if people want to beat Hulkogan. It's like, no,

511
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,440
you just said, you just said, you acknowledge that that

512
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,720
doesn't matter and that's not a reality, and he still

513
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:39,599
brings it up. So let's not kid ourselves. Another part

514
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:40,920
of the reason we didn't hear much from Sid for

515
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,799
a couple of years after dying, said be closed. The

516
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,400
check was still coming in the mail, you know what

517
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,519
I mean, still getting paid. As we discussed in the

518
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,079
episodes about you know, the lawsuits you filed around the injury,

519
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,839
he had quite a bit of time, including that worker's

520
00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:58,759
compensation payment for the injury and you know pay per

521
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:01,720
view money that checks that he cashed for pay per

522
00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:05,119
views that he was owed but never happened, and he

523
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,200
didn't have to work, but his contract called for a

524
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,839
minimum Uh. So you know, that's also part of the

525
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:12,119
reason that a lot of these guys uh disappeared for

526
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,839
a couple of years.

527
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

528
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 6: Nash you know famously said like, you know, if you're

529
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,599
getting paid what you're getting paid right now to sit

530
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,440
at home and watching Netflix, would you take it?

531
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: Fuck?

532
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:20,799
Speaker 7: It.

533
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, what do you want? Like, you know, you

534
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,160
just gotta fucking you know I'm getting. I'm getting. I'm

535
00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:30,359
I'm getting paid to sit at home. Fucking I work

536
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,640
on a dollar to bump ratio and if I can

537
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,880
get paid a lot of dollars for zero buck, fucking

538
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,960
you know, hit some sativa and drink some fucking veno.

539
00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:41,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, he says, watch Netflix, by the way,

540
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,000
you know what kind of films is?

541
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: You know, I fucking watched those those fucking indie college channels. Yeah,

542
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:52,279
watching some fucking you know, up and coming you know,

543
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,599
film tours.

544
00:26:56,079 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 6: Fuck, so oh three passes, you know, four. He suddenly

545
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,680
pomps up again in Montreal, of all places, where there's

546
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,559
some shows going on in a promotional banner called the IWS.

547
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:11,079
And involved in the IWS is Pierre Carl Willette from

548
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,119
lochae Becker's PCO, as he's known now. And come to

549
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,480
find out, PCO was one of Sid's absolute best friends

550
00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:18,079
in the business.

551
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: Good out of here.

552
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I don't think people necessarily knew this until

553
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,519
this run started to happen. And you know, the shoot

554
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:27,319
interview business was much more replete. There was channels everywhere,

555
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,599
and people would interview PCO, especially Devin Nicholson up who

556
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,680
runs as Hannibal runs Great White North Wrestling, and by

557
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:38,440
virtue of running that promotion, was able to bring in

558
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,759
a lot of guys with you know, old stardom from

559
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:43,319
WWF past and get a whole new round of shoot

560
00:27:43,319 --> 00:27:45,079
interviews done as part of the deal. A lot of

561
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,279
the stuff we've talked about and excerpted over the course

562
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,319
of the tribute to SID has come from SID getting

563
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:52,039
booked by Great White North and agreeing to do shoot

564
00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:52,839
interviews as part.

565
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: Of the deal.

566
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:57,599
Speaker 6: PCO has also done shoot interviews with Hannibal and has

567
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,119
been asked about SID in particular. PCO, of course, is

568
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,160
a name that carries some weight in the Montreal wrestling scene,

569
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:07,920
and he talked to Hannibal about his history with SID.

570
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,359
It all became pretty clear here as SID suddenly starts

571
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,759
re emerging. For example, on June twelf, two thousand and four,

572
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:17,599
SID had teamed with PCO to defeat the team of

573
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,240
Big Larry and Dolla Bill a main event anywhere in

574
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,599
the country, No, sorry, what a main event anywhere in

575
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,720
the country, and by the country, I mean Montserrat but

576
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,640
a PCO told Hannibal, I consider Sid to be my

577
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,519
best friend ever in the business. We had so much

578
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:39,000
fun together. I could ask him probably anything. He was

579
00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:42,000
close to my family, to pco's parents. As a matter,

580
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:44,119
you can always ask him anything. The problem is is

581
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400
he's going to tell you the truth about it. Yeah,

582
00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:49,039
be careful what you asked Sid would be my suggestion. Yeah,

583
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,920
he was almost part of a pco's family, as he

584
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,160
tells it. And when he went to work for the

585
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,759
Power Pro Wrestling Company, which was the Memphis Developmental territory

586
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,440
that we talked about, were Sid was in that PBO

587
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:06,359
stable in between runs. PCO actually stayed at Sid's house

588
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:09,240
when he was working down in that territory. So shit

589
00:29:09,319 --> 00:29:11,880
and getting the Booker t and Stevie Ray treatment there

590
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,440
at Chateau Ud.

591
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: Okay, we all want to go because.

592
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 6: At first PCO says he rented a condo down there,

593
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,559
and eventually he Sid just said, you know what, coming

594
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:23,160
to my house, lived with the family, and he was

595
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,480
there and remembers his wife being generous. And he also remembers, interestingly,

596
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:29,519
which I can't imagine Sid having a maid, which is

597
00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:30,319
just too much to think.

598
00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,119
Speaker 2: Wow, helping out with the kids and everything. He didn't

599
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:34,720
have fucking just Frank doing all that shit.

600
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 6: I think it made was helping take care of Frank

601
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,200
was twenty years old, and what would they do. They

602
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,119
would go to the gyms every morning. You know, Sid

603
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:46,079
needs a workout partner, especially getting back on his feet,

604
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:48,279
such as he was working out doing the twice a days.

605
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:50,920
Right back at it is Sid. And here's a little

606
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,920
bit of a direct color from the aforementioned Hannibal shoot

607
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,079
interview PCO reflecting on his friend Sid.

608
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,599
Speaker 9: I really never changed much. You know, he kept that

609
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,640
same house. It was not a big big spender. Like

610
00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:08,359
you know, he works on his h He has a

611
00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:13,240
special car that it it's not like the car. It's like, yeah,

612
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,720
sort of a jeep. Note puts that real strong.

613
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,359
Speaker 2: Engine and it tires.

614
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,799
Speaker 9: But his best friend is mechanical, so it doesn't cost

615
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,720
him that much the parts. You know, it's like their

616
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,519
babies together, those guys. You know, they just work on

617
00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:32,240
the jeep all the time, and it can make the

618
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:33,319
mud goes up.

619
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,279
Speaker 2: Fifty feet in the air.

620
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:35,839
Speaker 9: You know, it's really really strong.

621
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: It's a nice jeep. It's it's very very odd. But

622
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,079
other than that.

623
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 9: It's it's not a big spender.

624
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Sid just working on the jeep. And listen, I

625
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,279
know for damn we know for sure that Sid is

626
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:51,119
not a big spender.

627
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 6: I can picture working on the jeep. I can picture

628
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:58,240
him working on the jeep, like but still wearing like

629
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:02,000
a chaps button up with the top button buttoned, with

630
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:08,680
short sleeves. He's somehow in like a checkered like dress shirt.

631
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: While he does. Yeah, oh for sure, listen, he's he

632
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,599
he is always wearing some kind of like, you know,

633
00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:20,200
some kind of button down dress shirt, like it's either

634
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:23,400
plaid or it's you know, you know, and it's and

635
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,440
he's tucked into jeans. And he's always wearing a hat,

636
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,799
a baseball hat, like all right, doesn't matter where what

637
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,039
he's doing, like if he's not in the ring, that's

638
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:31,720
what he's wearing.

639
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: A lap fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows

640
00:31:48,759 --> 00:32:06,799
the boys need their candy. It's the Lampsed Fan. He's

641
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:11,920
a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno JP Soro.

642
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,599
Speaker 6: But again, that's that's what everyone says is he lived

643
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:18,799
incredibly modestly, essentially stuck to the same neighborhood that is

644
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:22,440
his his ancestors were from, and that he returned to, uh,

645
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,559
you know, an agro lifestyle, a farming lifestyle, and never,

646
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,759
despite the money made in the business, ye never bought

647
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,640
a big ostentatious house or a big ostentatious car, or

648
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:37,640
really did anything that indicated that he was interested in

649
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,359
the trappings of you know, making millions in the wrestling business.

650
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,240
And what does that do? That gives you freedom, That

651
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:46,680
gives you freedom to just fucking disappear.

652
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:49,599
Speaker 2: Well it also, I mean there's that, and it also

653
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,880
gives you the freedom to walk away.

654
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 6: That's right, It's what I'm by disap here, right, you

655
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,559
could just fuck it, I'm done for now.

656
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: You don't you know that? That's always the you know,

657
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,799
we hear about that all the time about wrestlers who

658
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,839
just can't fucking walk away. It's because they don't have

659
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:06,839
any money. But if you do it, if you play

660
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,240
it smart and you and you live modestly, or if

661
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:14,240
you live like see him punk, you know, then you

662
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:18,039
can then you can not work. You know, you've saved

663
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,400
up enough money and then your money's making money. Yep.

664
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 6: And you didn't allow the wrestling business to create your

665
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,680
idea of yourself and thus put you in huge debt

666
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,559
with a huge house, right, and all these other toys

667
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,119
and assets, because you let the wrestling business tell you like, Okay,

668
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,359
because I'm making this money now, I'm going to define

669
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,519
who I am by the things I buy. Whereas a

670
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:41,400
guy like Sid knows who he is already, yes, and

671
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,480
he's just he's always ready to go back there if

672
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,079
need be, and the money is just helping him do

673
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,279
it in kind of a more deliberated fashion. There's definitely

674
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:51,359
wisdom there. As much of a pain in the ass

675
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,039
as he was, and as much as a lot of

676
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,880
this wasn't by design, and just because he was you know,

677
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,039
too cute by a mile and dealing with promoters and

678
00:33:58,039 --> 00:33:59,720
thinking he was getting one over on them, and they

679
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:01,799
were just kind of laughing at him and waiting for

680
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,000
the chance to cut bait and rewarding him with you know,

681
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:09,280
two month title reigns, right, because that was his reputation.

682
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:11,880
He did have that ace in the hole where it

683
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,480
was like, I did not build up my sense of

684
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:18,599
myself with the money I made in the wrestling business,

685
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,280
and so I'm not in a position to have to

686
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,960
support that lifestyle and therefore be completely vulnerable to promoters.

687
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:28,000
So that I can continue furthering that lifestyle. I can

688
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,000
afford just not work for years and still be okay,

689
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:32,480
and you know, have a ton of fun in court, right,

690
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:35,679
suing motherfuckers and trying sure, you know, having enough money

691
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,559
to have the lawyers, that's one thing. It's like you

692
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,320
live that way. It's like, where's all the proof of it?

693
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,119
He lives so humbly. He's like, no, you know where

694
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,559
it goes. It goes with the lawyers that are going

695
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:47,800
to grab two or three more paydays. Then the next

696
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,679
guy can afford to fight for exactly because he'll just

697
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,039
sue you. And he loves to sue people. So he's

698
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:55,639
a tigious guy. He loves to blow cush too, you know,

699
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,880
and that's not cheap. Yes, this guy goes high as

700
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,360
a motherfucker his whole life. Right, We're talking about night

701
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:05,599
stick sized Marley spliffs. We're talking about this guy's blowing

702
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,840
fucking blunts, the size of the inflatable baseball bats you

703
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,159
see at kid's birthday parties.

704
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: Okay, can you imagine? Can you imagine too? Like you know, Frank,

705
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,119
Frank snuck out at night. He's coming home, really really late,

706
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:20,360
absolutely red eyed, yep. And then but then, but then

707
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,079
you get Sid at home waiting. He knows, he knows

708
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:28,480
that that Frank's gonna fucking stroll in like a motherfucker,

709
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,280
and he and Sid has been smoking like nobody's business.

710
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,199
But he's still dressed, yes, in a plaid shirt, button down,

711
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:43,960
tucked in with a hat. He's in the house. Okay,

712
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:55,360
he's in the house. Frank, Frank, I see you. I

713
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:01,440
saw you five miles away, and you're smoking my joint

714
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,960
and I could see far beyond the limitations of society,

715
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:19,039
right exactly. It opens up new worlds to him, and

716
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:25,559
I will see him beyond the limitations of human ability

717
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:28,760
to see. It's real simple, And I'm gonna tell you something,

718
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,440
Frankie's real simple. You sneak out of the house again.

719
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,679
You sneak out with my car. You come back here,

720
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,599
I'll kill you.

721
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:51,199
Speaker 6: The Sidney ad libs never disappoints, does it. I thought

722
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:53,159
you were gonna say to see, Frank, it's real simple.

723
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,280
You said my church at Cana and Assassin.

724
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: You delivered. I'm gonna tell you something else. You finally

725
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,159
deliver those fucking being us. I almost send you sound picture,

726
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:11,320
huge kudos.

727
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 6: One of the most delightful parts of the SID tribute

728
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,519
has been members of the Solar System, mostly commenting on Patreon,

729
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:20,480
who have caught on to ways to spell the way

730
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:22,920
SID says words, How do you spell the way?

731
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: SID says picture? It's p I T C H E R.

732
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,440
Thank you very much, I Richard.

733
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 10: Oh, he sent my church a casey Vianna sausages, and

734
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,559
I send him an autograph picture.

735
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: Hey, the autograph picture the way, he says. Sean Michaels

736
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,440
his money. I love seeing Solar System members try to

737
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,239
spell ball water.

738
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:55,079
Speaker 6: Yes, just amazing. Oh so thank you SID. O five

739
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,039
becomes six, becomes O seven, and he pops up again

740
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,960
working at the new l Ham Arena NFL, of course,

741
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,119
the former you c W Arena for the p W

742
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,280
you promotion, where he wrestles his old buddy and his

743
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,079
old night and shining armor if you will. Two cold Scorpio,

744
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,320
He who hit the bloodied hallways of the England Hotel

745
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,679
room after the scissor brawl with arn Anderson. I hesitate

746
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,920
to call it a scissor fight, of course, and exactly.

747
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: What's going on, dude, will know Lesbian's brother.

748
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:33,519
Speaker 6: Did He say, say what did you got lesbians? He said, God, yeah,

749
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:35,000
we got him here, Terry, they're right here.

750
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: Say hi, what he didn't know they were here? He

751
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:44,159
thought they were route. You tell me they're already here. Well,

752
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:46,840
I thought, that's not I don't that's not what we

753
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,239
agreed to at all. They're here, brother, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

754
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,679
We have the holllest thing in dude, man, Where where

755
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,360
where is specified happening?

756
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,559
Speaker 6: Due if only had the wherewithal to get to the

757
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:02,079
E C W Arena in the summer heat in two

758
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:06,760
thousand and seven to see two gold Scorpio versus sid.

759
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,559
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I'll tell you that that's a's a

760
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,159
main event anywhere in that part of Philadelphia.

761
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:18,519
Speaker 6: And yeah, South Philly, anywhere in that fucking industrial park

762
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,280
that that industrial area they sit in next to like

763
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,239
a gear manufacturer and a cheese steak place with a

764
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,440
two mile long line. Oh, I know, the plaza across

765
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:30,280
from the fucking uh you know, Marshalls.

766
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: That's just fucking perfect, wasn't it absolutely per fect?

767
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 6: Sitting in that cab trying or the uber trying not

768
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,800
to touch the cheese steak till we got to the hotel.

769
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: Ah that was I mean, just fucking kill me. The

770
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:53,159
smell of an onion rings the whole ride. Ah. Like,

771
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,480
I'll tell you the thing is that makes it. You know,

772
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,440
that makes it a very simple, plain act that you're

773
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:06,960
not going to do well eating that food, right because

774
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,239
now you've made you've tortured yourself to smell it for longer,

775
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,320
So all you want to do is put it in

776
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,599
your mouth as fast as possible.

777
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 6: I think there's a pretty good chance that Sid, wearing

778
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,800
jeans under knee pads and boots, ate one of those

779
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:26,079
on a round wooden table behind the curtain.

780
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: Yes he did, Yes he did brought it also, sure

781
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:31,360
you know what, I'm damn sure that he ate one

782
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,519
right at a stand and said, fuck it, they're not

783
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:36,719
going to start without me, right, exactly how you would

784
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,559
you like to eat here?

785
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:47,559
Speaker 6: A regular? A regular Rosa Parks? He was lunch counter

786
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,440
activist Sid. So then he goes up to uh Ottawa

787
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,159
that summer and works for the super FX promotion where

788
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:57,679
he wrestles Johnny Devine, and then he goes to wrestle

789
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,400
for any W in Danbury, Connecticut against Jerry law we

790
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,639
missed the chances. He sid and Lawler in O seven

791
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:06,960
What a bummer. Then he goes to what btw and

792
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:12,920
RIVERA O my God to wrestle too cold again remember

793
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,360
tenth of two thousand and seven, then kick it over

794
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,239
to two thousand and eight. He works in nWo Pro

795
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,679
TV taping in Lincoln, Rhode Island at the Twin Rivers

796
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:22,719
where he defeats Joe Delicious. I'm not sure that ever

797
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,920
made a television. He works another nWo Pro NWA Pro

798
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,000
TV taping in Atlanta on June seventh of two thousand

799
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,639
and eight, where he defeats wrestlers by the name of

800
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,800
Davy Boy Blain and Justin Carino.

801
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,039
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's.

802
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 6: Still only taking matches where he can destroy people. Two

803
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,400
on ONEWNWA Pro.

804
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:47,679
Speaker 2: I don't know.

805
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:51,639
Speaker 6: I keep seeing nWo in New Jersey he wrestles Joe Delicious,

806
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:53,519
so this must be his buddy, This Joe Delicious guy.

807
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,280
He worked the Knights of Columbus June thirteenth, two thousand

808
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,400
and eight and Richfield Park, New Jersey, where he on

809
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:03,440
Dave Greco, Justin Creno, and Kyle Thurdon in a three

810
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:05,800
on one handicap. You can guess who won that one.

811
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna imagine Yeah that Listen sitting't losing any

812
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:10,920
handicaps beat.

813
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,199
Speaker 6: Cut well, well, he beat Kyle Gordon. In June, he

814
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,079
did a wrestling super show in Pemberke, Ontario against the

815
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,639
aforementioned Hannibal Devil Nicholson, where they wrestled each other to

816
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:24,440
a disqualification. That was on June twenty, two thousand and eight.

817
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:26,880
And then he worked a wrestling super show card as

818
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,199
it was called in Hawkesbury and Antario against a wrestler

819
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,239
named a Tiger Raj Singh, where he defeated him on

820
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,559
June twenty first, two thousand and eight. And then it

821
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:36,239
was time for the Phone a ring from an old pal,

822
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,239
the guy who found him first on the softball field,

823
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,559
the guy who gave him his first match under the

824
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,719
Lord Humongous Gimmick against the Lights Nick Bucklinkle. Jerry the

825
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,800
King Lawler is still working the Tennessee State Fairgrounds. Boss

826
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:50,880
It's time for a card that was entitled celebrating thirty

827
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,920
five years of Wrestling with Jerry the King Lawler, A

828
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,800
tribute to the King and his He blessed Sid Vicious

829
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,719
to be his opponent for this occasion. It was a

830
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,760
very over seven in two thousand and eight matches on

831
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,199
YouTube and Sid is in jeans, and Sid is back

832
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,639
in the Memphis territory, if you will, and trying to

833
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,719
suck off the fumes of what's left in that one

834
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,159
part of the country where there's still just a little

835
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:17,239
bit of a spark around the idea of our local wrestling.

836
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:21,000
And he wrestled Lawler such as he was, you know,

837
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:22,840
with his titties and everything in two thousand and eight.

838
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: Of course, listen, you gotta do what you gotta do.

839
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 6: And he's in jeans and Jimmy Hart is in Sid's

840
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,519
corner to get the heat.

841
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess what the fuck is Jesus, it's

842
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,599
like with Jimmy Hart going to add that little extra

843
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:38,119
for draw edge.

844
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,599
Speaker 6: You think we've seen you think we've seen Sid standing

845
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:42,360
around before?

846
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,079
Speaker 7: Wait?

847
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:47,119
Speaker 6: D you see this one? A lot of standing around.

848
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:50,280
He body slams Jerry Lawler about six times after several

849
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,480
lock ups to start the match, and then he punches

850
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:55,159
him and stands around. Lawler eventually does his comeback, throws

851
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:57,159
a low blow at a drop kick. Jimmy Hart gets

852
00:43:57,199 --> 00:43:59,639
up on the ape and tries to hold Jerry Lawler

853
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,239
open for a shot. Of course, Lawler moves out of

854
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,079
the way and Sid pops Jimmy Hart and Lawler rolls

855
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:09,159
up Sid for the one, two three, and Sid sells

856
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,039
this roll up finish as if he'd just been shot

857
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:12,480
in the head.

858
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: Of course.

859
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,679
Speaker 6: My favorite thing about Sid bar none is that he

860
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,800
sells everything as if he should be supine ready to

861
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,400
be put into the grave. Yep, right, every move it's

862
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,360
either no selling and he's getting back to his feet

863
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,480
to get to his chokes, like the power Bomb, where

864
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:32,199
he is fucking a corpse on the ground motionless for

865
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,320
minutes on end, laying there even to the detriment of

866
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,400
the flow of the match, like why since not getting

867
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:38,840
up at all?

868
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,679
Speaker 2: Fucking uh, mister Purfs should taking some notes from Sid.

869
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:44,159
Oh shit, it's selling that fucking stone Cold Center in

870
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:44,800
two thousand and two.

871
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:48,559
Speaker 6: No, I mean he sells the roll up like Owen

872
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:50,679
should have sold the Summer Slam ninety seven roll up.

873
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:57,079
He just lays there like the roll up is a

874
00:44:57,159 --> 00:44:57,960
knockout blow.

875
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: I probably couldn't get up. It's probably stuff so uh,

876
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:10,320
I can't get the rest Kevin Lawler, get over free Lawler.

877
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:15,800
I know you're all her son King right, just looking

878
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,000
me in the eye. You something real simple. I can't

879
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:24,519
get up. That is real simple, said you might.

880
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,039
Speaker 6: You realize when you're giving an urgent message, you know,

881
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:28,800
ear to ear and the people can't hear you, you

882
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,159
don't have to do the it's real simple preface. You

883
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:34,000
don't have to say that.

884
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. This is how I talk.

885
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,360
These are the things that I say, right all right,

886
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,199
and I'm gonna make it real simple for.

887
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,599
Speaker 6: You, he said, says it again, and he says, by

888
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:48,440
the way.

889
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,519
Speaker 2: There, I don't want to make things complicated, right, God forbid.

890
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,480
I don't know if you don't want to make them

891
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,880
complicated for my sake or for your sake, But that's fine,

892
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:58,079
And he says, this is what I'm gonna say. He

893
00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:05,320
said that it's pronounced what's pronounced sake, the wine, the

894
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:14,079
Japanese sake. For God's sake, Will you get over here, gunner.

895
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:18,960
They taught me that in Japan. Wait to hear what

896
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,519
else they taught him in Japan. I can't wait to

897
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:25,199
get to that. But look, I mean, as this thing

898
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,000
kind of starts to very very vaguely resemble the lapsed

899
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:32,320
Funk Terry Funk journey. Who is the opponent? Right that

900
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,360
like threads together the generations. You know, who's the guy? Yes,

901
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,920
Jerry Lawler. Yep, it's totally true.

902
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 7: You know.

903
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 6: As great as he was in his own right, Lawler

904
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,360
was like foil to so many wrestlers who straddle the generations,

905
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,000
you know, and you could go back to it because

906
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:53,559
Lawler did not work a style that you couldn't do

907
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,440
even when you were really old and beyond your years.

908
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,760
And it was the promos were so strong that you

909
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,280
could just pick up or you left off from a

910
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,760
promo perspective. We heard you remember the one we called

911
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,199
him a baby banger, Terry Funk.

912
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:07,599
Speaker 2: No, I don't remember that.

913
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,599
Speaker 6: He came back here that outdoor promo where he was

914
00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:13,239
like on his farm and he's a baby banger to

915
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,960
get people in the building in like two thousand and

916
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,480
four to see him wrestle Jerry Lawler one more time.

917
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:19,760
And they went all around the horn. MLW A bunch

918
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,440
of indies in the Northeast. They're just tremendous and so

919
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:26,280
sid The beneficiary of that is well here all the

920
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,840
way in the year two thousand and eight, after which

921
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,480
he could do very little beyond just like we mentioned,

922
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:34,519
stand around. He was asked in the End Your Head

923
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:37,000
podcast about working with Jerry Lawler one time was Sid

924
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,400
and he said, it's like working with a skeleton out

925
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,920
of the closet. Slow, he's already dead. It doesn't matter,

926
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:43,679
and then they laugh.

927
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,679
Speaker 2: Wow. So I'm going to tell you something, guys. Good.

928
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,159
Speaker 6: That's where I've said this before, is that we have

929
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,079
to do as workers in this business. We have to

930
00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:54,480
learn how to be comfortable in an uncomfortable situation. One

931
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,719
of them sometimes is what a lot of times means

932
00:47:57,039 --> 00:48:00,320
is I can make someone feel uncomfortable by not moving.

933
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:04,360
This is what Sid is offering. I can make someone

934
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,320
uncomfortable by not moving, he says.

935
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm want to say you something. I want to say

936
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,480
something right now. I will make you feel uncomfortable. I

937
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:17,360
can promise I'll make you feel by not moving. I

938
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:25,239
will stand perfectly still and you will find no comfort.

939
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 11: You know what.

940
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:30,119
Speaker 6: I don't really disagree with him Sid standing there not

941
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:32,000
moving it kind of works.

942
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, Jesus.

943
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:39,519
Speaker 6: And he's basically, yeah, you know why you're not moving

944
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:43,079
Sid because your leg doesn't work anymore. Right, but it's

945
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:46,360
now a psychology right, So again a luxury that Jerry

946
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,519
Lawler afforded so many veterans that they could find in

947
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,920
just one more payday that had a spark of the

948
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,559
old time, even when they could barely move, like Terry

949
00:48:54,599 --> 00:49:00,679
Funk could barely move, because Lawler had set expectations such

950
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,000
that people didn't feel ripped off even if the match

951
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:08,599
was that low action and that's gone, that's gone. Yeah, yeah,

952
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:11,360
the crop today. If they can't do what they do now,

953
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,920
there no one's gonna sit around and by no one,

954
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:19,840
there's not gonna be people who like accept them doing

955
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,320
a style that you know, they don't have knees anymore,

956
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,440
they don't have any spring in their step anymore. Their

957
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,360
careers are over. They're cooked if they can't do dives

958
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,800
and all that stuff. And that's their choice, and it

959
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,320
works for them in the in the moment, but you've

960
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,920
got to think careers, boss are going to be a

961
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,639
lot shorter, right, earning year is going to be a

962
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:40,119
lot shorter. You're not going to be like Sid and

963
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:42,599
still find ways to get booked. In two thousand and eight,

964
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:44,840
after what happened to your leg? I don't think, so

965
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:45,760
what do you think?

966
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:51,599
Speaker 2: I think? I think it's Sid. I think Sid finds

967
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:57,159
a way much like life and Jeff Goldbloom in Jurassic Park,

968
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,400
Sid finds a way.

969
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 6: Sid does find a way to get booked until we

970
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:06,559
give you that. So I'm going to play for you

971
00:50:06,639 --> 00:50:10,239
a little bit of that sound from the aforemntioned interview

972
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,000
that he did with the In Your Head podcast said

973
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,320
talking about being uncomfortable and uncomfortable situations and not moving.

974
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, I was. You know, that's a nice job. People

975
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,840
crazy because you're gonna realize that, what with all of

976
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,880
a thousand million times a thousand million industry get in

977
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,119
the ring sometimes, so that's sometime uncomfortable doing and that

978
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:34,360
puts a lot of people in an uncomfortable situation. But no,

979
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,280
I like it like that, and now I think it's

980
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,239
TV and it's going to be something we need to

981
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,559
have down to ever do a little segment and everything.

982
00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:43,920
I think, then you you talk it out, you know,

983
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,400
but it's a lot of fun to be able to

984
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,519
do that on the comfort of people.

985
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:50,559
Speaker 2: And you know, Bamba, he's talking now about Bam Bam Bigelow.

986
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,239
Let me go ahead just a little bit.

987
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 11: I'm gonna tell you some guys what we have to

988
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,920
as workers in this business. We have to learn how

989
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,719
to be comfortable and an uncomfortable situation. And one of

990
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,559
them sometimes is, uh, what longest time means? I can

991
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:09,880
make someone feel uncomfortable? But by not moving, I feel

992
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:10,519
real comfortable.

993
00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:12,679
Speaker 2: By not moving, I'm not gonna want me too.

994
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 11: You know, whatever match before me or whatever dictator fast,

995
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,559
I'm I'm moving in the ring, and uh, I think

996
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,239
Kings gives me what you don't see with many people today.

997
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,639
I've got a calm about me that you just don't see.

998
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:30,199
And what I got that from was from him. Honestly,

999
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:32,480
I got my you know, a lot of the on

1000
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,440
tough interview stuff, the ability to do that you know,

1001
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,039
you got to realize in these interviews in the day,

1002
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,480
we had to do these things on a fly miss

1003
00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:45,800
Live TV. So that's something he taught me how to

1004
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,840
do too, and that he's one best at it. So

1005
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,800
I learned a lot from the guy, and that right here,

1006
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,199
that one thing in my repertoire means a lot to me,

1007
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,159
just to be able to make someone feel uncomfortable. Or

1008
00:51:56,199 --> 00:51:59,920
I can feel comfortable in an uncomfortable situation means.

1009
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 6: A lot to him to be able to do that.

1010
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,000
Do you think he could make you feel comfortable in

1011
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,800
an uncomfortable situation or vice versa.

1012
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: I think he'd I think he'd maybe feel uncomfortable most

1013
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:08,400
of the time.

1014
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,599
Speaker 6: So calendar turns to two thousand and nine. He hits

1015
00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:13,360
up to Montreal and works in more shows against the

1016
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,840
likes of Frankie the Mobster and Handsome JF and Jeff Johnson.

1017
00:52:18,039 --> 00:52:20,400
He works a wrestling super show in thunder Bay, Ontario

1018
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,039
on two and eighteenth, So it's a lot of work

1019
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:26,360
in Canada. And in these later years he wrestles Jim

1020
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,559
Duggan in two thousand and nine, I invite you to

1021
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:31,880
consider God. And then he goes to work for the Juggalos.

1022
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,079
He goes to work for the Insane Clown Posse. They really, yes,

1023
00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:37,559
they have their wacky shows in the middle of the

1024
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:39,400
forest or whatever the fuck they would do. This one

1025
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,440
is in cave in Rock, Illinois and he was part

1026
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,079
of a multiman match. Corporal Robinson who was a regular

1027
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:48,400
for the JCW guys, Scott Hall who would come out

1028
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:53,480
in ICP hockey Jersey and just stand around shaggy tued open,

1029
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:55,360
violent Jay of course, the two sides of the insane

1030
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,320
clown posse and yes, Sid Vicious who comes out to

1031
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,320
a combination of the end WO theme music and the

1032
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,079
why because they had.

1033
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: A j W O stable in Oh My God j

1034
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:11,000
c W and in the Psycho Sid music and he

1035
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:11,719
was a surprise.

1036
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 6: They would that's what they would do with j CW.

1037
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,960
As they would hire eighties guys and they would come

1038
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,000
in and do two moves, not unlike how Paul Haym

1039
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,039
and you Sid, you know what I mean. It wasn't

1040
00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:22,719
like anything long term. It wasn't a contract if they

1041
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,280
worked more than once. It was just by happenstance. And

1042
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,280
again crossover with Terry Funk who told all kinds of

1043
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,159
stories about how much he loved the clowns because they

1044
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:34,679
paid him incredibly well well after his expiration date and

1045
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,320
left money at his house and everything to make it

1046
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,280
good to him. And here's here's Sid getting a bit

1047
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,599
of that taste in this ten person tag against a

1048
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:46,840
series of guys who worked as heels and in that organization,

1049
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,199
Sid and Hall were buddies. You know, we've heard Nash

1050
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:52,840
talk about it. They they were very close even after

1051
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,000
w W folded, and Sid has talked a little bit

1052
00:53:56,039 --> 00:53:57,679
about kind of reaching out to Scott as he went

1053
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,559
through his struggles and offering to stay, let him.

1054
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,159
Speaker 2: Stay, and all that.

1055
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 6: All the above, and no doubt Haul helping the psycho.

1056
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,599
One get a taste of that in seeing clown posse

1057
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,400
money and wear a baggy hockey jersey in his own right.

1058
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:14,119
So he got the tag. In the match, he stood

1059
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:16,840
there static for several minutes. He slapped a guy and

1060
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,559
choke slammed one after the other, choke slamming everybody. It's

1061
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:22,480
very clear what you're signing up for when you bring

1062
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:25,440
Sid in, especially at this point in his life and career,

1063
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,800
and that he power bombed a guy and that's that.

1064
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,559
One's for the Juggalos. Then to October of two thousand

1065
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:35,000
and nine, back in Illinois, he works a six man

1066
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:37,639
tag with Scott Hall and someone runed the Lord Humongous

1067
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:41,039
Gimmick against Tojo Yamamoto Junior, a wrestler named Panic, and

1068
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:44,320
a wrestler named Ryz Morino, and that was that was

1069
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,639
it for that run there in Illinois. He then makes

1070
00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:51,199
a run to France, Okay, there's a company called a

1071
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,119
w R that ran a tour of France in November

1072
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:57,559
of two thousand and nine and Sid ends up on

1073
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:00,719
the tour and he wrestles XPOX several times and beats

1074
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,440
him and beats a guy named the Suicide Machine. Unbelievable

1075
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:08,119
Sid in France, and that's gonna go, well.

1076
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,519
Speaker 2: That's that's that's wild.

1077
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 6: And in two thousand and nine, I mean, come on, like,

1078
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,719
how how is it worth it bringing that guy in?

1079
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: I really? I mean obviously they're this the you're not

1080
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,360
doing well that promotion. Also one guy, do what you can, but.

1081
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 6: One guy who was excited to see him there, because

1082
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,000
this was one of those promotions that pulled together, you know,

1083
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,000
just about anybody who was on the circuit that had

1084
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:31,360
just left WWE and had a bit of that name recognition.

1085
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,400
Rob van Dam was was on this tour and Rob

1086
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,159
Dandam was someone, as we talked about when we mentioned

1087
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:39,480
sid zcw Run, that was you know, very gregarious towards Sid,

1088
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:43,119
welcoming somebody that uh Rob is always good about building

1089
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:45,840
bridges with the prior generation. Hogan liked him in TNA

1090
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,679
and stuff like that, and he was very complimentary and

1091
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,199
deferential towards Hulking and Sid was much the same way.

1092
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,079
But RVD saw the potential, despite Sid's incredible limitations at

1093
00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:58,400
this point in time, to actually have a decent match

1094
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,000
with Sid. He saw a great challenge and working around

1095
00:56:01,079 --> 00:56:03,639
Sid's limitations and all the things RVD can do flying

1096
00:56:03,639 --> 00:56:07,280
around the ring to create something. But you know, you

1097
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,280
don't know if you're gonna get the chance with Sid

1098
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,559
until he gets off the plane and you study his countenance,

1099
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:19,719
let alone boss if he suffers another his incontinental title

1100
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,840
until But you also don't know what you're getting with

1101
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,639
Sid and what you convince him to do until you

1102
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,320
talk to him after tearing his bicep on the tour.

1103
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,199
Oh no, And if you think Sid's cranky in general,

1104
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:34,360
what about a torn bicep? Sid in France in two

1105
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,480
thousand and nine. Here's RVD on Renee Duprie's podcast talking

1106
00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:40,760
about the memory. Renede de Prix was also on the tour,

1107
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,800
so you'll see him pipe in with some detail as

1108
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,519
RVD gets into the story. But this is this is

1109
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:49,559
the state of Sid after he had faded from the spotlight,

1110
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:51,559
and we'd only hear little drips and drabs about what

1111
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:53,880
he was doing on the indies far and wide.

1112
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 4: I know, I'm trying to figure who else was there.

1113
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:02,639
And I remember Sid when Sid came and then and left.

1114
00:57:02,639 --> 00:57:06,039
Speaker 2: Remember talk about that for a second though.

1115
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 4: So Sid hadn't been wrestling and in years and years

1116
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,440
and years, and he wanted to go back to w WE.

1117
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:17,480
So I'm pretty sure he thought they're just doing this

1118
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:20,599
easy overseas tour would get his name in the sheet.

1119
00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:24,320
You know, there's a lot of long uh, Prima Donna

1120
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,360
has to learn. You know, you don't always get to

1121
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,280
go to the gym or get a full night sleep.

1122
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 7: You might be.

1123
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,159
Speaker 2: Getting in late checking it. So he was pissed about

1124
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:32,639
all of that.

1125
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 4: And then yeah, remember one time he got flown ahead

1126
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,880
of us and met us at the hotel.

1127
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:37,679
Speaker 7: Uh.

1128
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, like his first night in I think it was,

1129
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,880
he wrestled Xpot and he hit him with a clothesline.

1130
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:48,199
Speaker 2: That towards bicep. Yeah, yeah, his arm was all purple.

1131
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 4: And and so for the next couple of days he

1132
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:57,559
was complaining about the tour, but also you know, kind

1133
00:57:57,559 --> 00:58:00,199
of using his arm as a reason, you know, to

1134
00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:02,880
be able to and and I saw that happening, and

1135
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,360
I was supposed to wrestle him like in a few days,

1136
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,039
and I really wanted to. I want to have a

1137
00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:10,440
singles match with him, you know, I thought, uh, and

1138
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,119
and I could tell it. You know, he was was

1139
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:14,400
doing like checking out, So I was like trying to

1140
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,360
motivate him on the on the house and I, dude,

1141
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,559
know when we when we wrestle on Friday or whatever

1142
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:22,559
it is, you know, we're gonna setch a good match.

1143
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:25,480
It was like he goes, now, I don't and I'm gonna, dude,

1144
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:29,360
forget about your arm. Man, I got you. And then

1145
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,079
the day came for you know, and I was still

1146
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:35,440
trying to tell him, Bro, I'm gonna work all around

1147
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,320
you and make you look like so good. It's gonna

1148
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,320
be the best match I ever had. Let's you know,

1149
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:42,000
let's do this. When we got to the arena on

1150
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,880
the day that we're supposed to wrestle each other, he

1151
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,440
went and talked to the office switched everything around. So

1152
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:53,800
he wrestled XPOC again. And my first match, Yeah, they

1153
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,800
went out there and x Pock didn't even know he

1154
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:56,559
was going to do this.

1155
00:58:57,039 --> 00:58:58,599
Speaker 2: They right off the bat.

1156
00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:01,599
Speaker 4: He just kicked in the stomach and mob power bomb

1157
00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:03,039
and then he went home.

1158
00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:04,559
Speaker 8: Wow.

1159
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was bombed because I wanted to work with him.

1160
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: Oh man, Rob Jesus, you know, this is what the

1161
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:17,320
sound that that Sid makes when whenever he has any

1162
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:26,320
kind of injury, totally just looking at the injury, screaming

1163
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:33,280
at the injury, exactly, screaming like nobody wants to help

1164
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,079
him in that kind of situation, Like nobody wants to

1165
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:40,199
come near to somebody who's screaming that wildly, you know,

1166
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,800
like a wounded animal. I mean it's like, yeah, exactly, well,

1167
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,840
it's like, you know, it's a Yeah, it's a wounded animal.

1168
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,960
It's it's a it's a it's a rabbit animal. You know,

1169
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:50,760
it's like a funk.

1170
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,119
Speaker 6: I don't want to It's an animal that does know

1171
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:55,360
the difference between someone trying to approach to help and

1172
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,519
someone trying to approach to make you hurt.

1173
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: Worse right, and you know what, he doesn't care. That's correct,

1174
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:01,079
That's it.

1175
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 6: It's so funny that Arbady thinks like Sid can be

1176
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,719
lobbied to actually try. In two thousand and nine, he

1177
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,239
is gone, my friend, he is gone.

1178
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:16,119
Speaker 2: Listen, listen the moment the moment you give him a check, right,

1179
01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:22,280
all right? He is done? That is it? And Sid

1180
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:23,360
is done.

1181
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:27,239
Speaker 6: And it's amazing. He's not just crushing the Jabronis who've

1182
01:00:27,239 --> 01:00:29,599
been mentioning. I mean XPOC, you know, someone that he

1183
01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:31,400
worked with in WWF and presumably he had a lot

1184
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,639
of respect for it, just as much tenure in this

1185
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:36,719
business and respecting this business as he did. Nope, he's

1186
01:00:36,719 --> 01:00:39,239
going down to in seconds and he's getting on a plane.

1187
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,920
I just love it so much that he did that.

1188
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,000
He goes back to the aforementioned RpW promotion in Illinois

1189
01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:48,400
in the fall of twenty ten and works another six

1190
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,679
man tag team Matchup twenty eleven, he goes over to

1191
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:54,320
Powerhouse Wrestling and Outfit in Auburn, Massachusetts actually and does

1192
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,639
a couple of shots. He does one of the Elks

1193
01:00:56,639 --> 01:01:00,440
Lodge and Queens for p WS and April twenty seven eleven,

1194
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:03,519
where he defeated Eddie Kingston. The future a W Starr

1195
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,480
was able to share the ring with Sid at one

1196
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,119
point in time.

1197
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,119
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, if you go into a lodge, that's

1198
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:14,480
that's where the money's at. I agree, you know, I,

1199
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,480
I you know, I always whenever you say a lodge

1200
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:19,000
or something like that. I always think at the time

1201
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,840
I went to the Lions Club to see a Wrestling

1202
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:24,599
OH match and it was like a cancel because of snow.

1203
01:01:25,079 --> 01:01:28,440
But there were like three rows of chairs, you know,

1204
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:32,559
around the ring. Three rows. That's it. I would have

1205
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:34,079
loved to have experienced that.

1206
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:36,239
Speaker 6: That's where people who really love the business go out

1207
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,199
and give it. They're all yeah, and Sid certainly fit

1208
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:43,920
that description. But you know, it's time for the law

1209
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,000
to catch up with Sid because we've been talking about

1210
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:52,079
how hard he blows cushy, how high he stays and

1211
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,760
you better recall. And by now folks have been hearing

1212
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,760
the many episodes and installments of the Unwrappening the twenty

1213
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,000
twenty four TLF Christmas Show, we'll have already gotten into

1214
01:02:04,039 --> 01:02:06,360
the episode if they've been keeping up where We opened

1215
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,360
the gift from our pal John in the UK who

1216
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,519
got us a twenty twenty five TLF wall calendar. Oh

1217
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:15,840
my god, desk calendar, and every month is a different

1218
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,119
mug shot of a wrestling luminary who's been arrested. And

1219
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:21,199
we were quite surprised, as steeped as we were at

1220
01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:23,880
the time, Boss and Sid History to find a sid

1221
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,320
mugshot among the twelve. When did Sid get arrested?

1222
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: What is this?

1223
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 6: It happened in January of twenty and eleven. Wow Associated

1224
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:39,119
Press Dateline. Memphis wrestler Psycho Sid Udy is free on

1225
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:43,239
bail after being arrested in Memphis on a marijuana possession charge.

1226
01:02:44,159 --> 01:02:46,360
Police say they pulled the fifty year old ut over

1227
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:52,079
Friday for not wearing a seat belt. Excuse me, sir,

1228
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:53,039
license and registration?

1229
01:02:53,119 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: Please? Why you ask it for stuff? All right?

1230
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 6: Call for backup. I mean, of all the things to

1231
01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:04,440
come back at an officer with, why are you asking

1232
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,800
for stuff? I mean, this guy's clearly already fucked.

1233
01:03:06,599 --> 01:03:07,599
Speaker 12: Up, sir.

1234
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:10,199
Speaker 6: We need to see some some form of identification to

1235
01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:12,199
get a sense of whether you're a danger on the road.

1236
01:03:13,559 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: Okay, now I want you to the cop says. Okay.

1237
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,599
By the way, now I want you to look me

1238
01:03:19,639 --> 01:03:21,960
in the eye because I want to tell you something

1239
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:27,599
is real simple. What you're doing right now it's bogus,

1240
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:33,920
the most bogus that you've ever pulled off. Now, I

1241
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,360
want to know, sir, how do you know me?

1242
01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:35,639
Speaker 13: Like?

1243
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: Have we run into each other before? I want to

1244
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:39,920
know something.

1245
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:40,599
Speaker 7: Is it?

1246
01:03:40,679 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: Because go ahead, sir, you pull me over. Because I'm

1247
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:53,800
not a big movie star like Hulk Hogan, the Great

1248
01:03:53,920 --> 01:04:00,039
Immortal One himself. This is because I'm a newcomer. I

1249
01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:05,639
want to tell you something right now. You couldn't arrest

1250
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,880
me on your best day. Oh really, as he fondles

1251
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:15,679
the handcuffs on his waist, And I couldn't arrest myself

1252
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:16,480
on my worst.

1253
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,039
Speaker 6: He would say something close to that inadvertently. Of course,

1254
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:26,840
he'd mean something very loge right, he would, but that's

1255
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,960
how it would come out. Marijuana possession charge. Police say

1256
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,880
they pulled the fifty year old duty over Friday for

1257
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,800
not wearing a seat belt. Wmc TV in Memphis reports

1258
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,519
an officer saw a bag containing eighteen grams of marijuana

1259
01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:41,119
on an arm rest in the car.

1260
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,119
Speaker 2: Oh god, mister Udy.

1261
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:47,239
Speaker 6: Is it okay? Looking at your license here? Arkansas? Huh

1262
01:04:47,679 --> 01:04:49,039
West Memphis, right over the river.

1263
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,599
Speaker 2: And got a problem with that? Not at all? No,

1264
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,239
just well you asking questions Marion? Do you live in Marion?

1265
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 7: No?

1266
01:04:57,199 --> 01:05:02,239
Speaker 2: Now I want to tell you something again. Now I'm rotten.

1267
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:08,280
Now delivering food to the poor looks like you're delivering

1268
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,480
a lot more than me. Looks like you're delivering a

1269
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:13,679
lot more than food. Shut it, you shut up. Oh shit,

1270
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,639
I'm delivering one hundred and fifty cans of Vienna sausages.

1271
01:05:20,199 --> 01:05:22,400
Excuse feedrol, excuse me.

1272
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,639
Speaker 6: Suspect says he's delivering one hundred and fifty cans of

1273
01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:34,159
Vienna sausages. Back up to root seventy five. Please, well,

1274
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,239
I can confirm dispatch looking in this trunk. There do

1275
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,320
appear to be many cans of Vienna sausages in this trunk.

1276
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,639
So that isn't a euphemism for drugs.

1277
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: I gonna tell you something else.

1278
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 10: I'm giving bowl water.

1279
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: Sir. Just please stay on your knees on the shoulder, please,

1280
01:05:50,599 --> 01:06:02,400
just please. I can't get on my knee, so usually

1281
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:05,679
stand off. I broke my leg. Tell you what off,

1282
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,400
Tell you what he tells him. Tell you what officer

1283
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,840
he started. He suddenly realizes he's fucked. Tell you what.

1284
01:06:12,039 --> 01:06:14,719
This is all a big misunderstanding. How about this? How

1285
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:17,519
about I give you you Let me go. I'm gonna

1286
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:23,519
say you autograph picture. I'll send you one, so the office.

1287
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,599
So the officer lets him go, and then six weeks

1288
01:06:28,679 --> 01:06:32,079
later he goes down to the mailbox and he's leafing

1289
01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:36,599
through envelopes. In one is an autograph picture. But you

1290
01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:38,599
know what, you know it too. It's like it's it's

1291
01:06:38,599 --> 01:06:40,920
not even like one of his one of his promo shots,

1292
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,519
like a selfie that he took that he printed up

1293
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:44,800
on his computer. Yeah, it's like up like up his

1294
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:54,079
nose like and again it's on like it's on like

1295
01:06:54,119 --> 01:06:56,519
regular paper. It's not even on like photo paper. It's

1296
01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:58,880
on printer paper. He never told his wife about the arrest.

1297
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,360
He's like banging on the bed because it's locked. She's like, Sid,

1298
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,199
what are you doing in there? He's taking the picture.

1299
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:09,159
Shut up, you better not be smoking again. I'm gonna

1300
01:07:09,199 --> 01:07:13,360
tell you something right now, woman, And it's real simple. Yeah,

1301
01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:19,119
I thought, I'm not obligated to tell you anything. I

1302
01:07:19,159 --> 01:07:23,280
won't do what I want. I'll do it to oh shit,

1303
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,320
and I will do and I will autograph this picture.

1304
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:33,840
I will tell you that I'll sometimes have to autograph pictures. Yeah,

1305
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,039
this would be a have Do I agree with that characterization?

1306
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, eighteen grams of marijuana on the arm rest in

1307
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,320
the car. He also faced charges of driving without a license. Well,

1308
01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:46,760
that will come into play later. He was released on

1309
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:51,320
one thousand dollars bond. Beauty of Marion was known as

1310
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,679
Sid Vicious in World Championship Wrestling and a Sid Justice

1311
01:07:53,679 --> 01:07:56,239
and Psycho Said and the World Wrestling Federation. A message

1312
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,119
left Sunday from Memphis Police was not immediately returned. A

1313
01:07:59,159 --> 01:08:03,280
call to listing for Sidney Uti and Marion was not answered. Well,

1314
01:08:04,039 --> 01:08:07,039
we can believe this story because sid was never shy

1315
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,679
about talking about his oh boy affection for that stinky

1316
01:08:11,719 --> 01:08:15,000
green and here he is on his own podcast talking

1317
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:15,440
about it.

1318
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,520
Speaker 14: Everyone knows there's not a bigger pot smoker than myself.

1319
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,119
I like the idea that we have this, and I'm

1320
01:08:22,119 --> 01:08:24,960
a I've got everyone knows there's not a bigger pot

1321
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,119
smoker than myself. I like the idea that we have this,

1322
01:08:29,239 --> 01:08:32,640
and I'm a I've got my marijuana card, marijuana car

1323
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,000
here for Arkansas. I think you had better marijuana when

1324
01:08:37,039 --> 01:08:40,319
it wasn't legalized. They're just running cheap streath through the

1325
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:44,439
thing right now. But I think that has to be legalized.

1326
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,399
There's just so so many upsides to it. I talked

1327
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,359
to a couple of people in the last couple of

1328
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:52,920
months now that I know are going through really really

1329
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,399
serious pain management programs that are really backing off their

1330
01:08:56,399 --> 01:09:00,119
pain management because of the marijuana and the CBD all

1331
01:09:00,199 --> 01:09:03,479
stuff like that. So we've got to get that legalized.

1332
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: We can't.

1333
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,399
Speaker 14: I hope that anyone Republican or Democrat didn't take a

1334
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,479
stance on something that just you're taking a stance just

1335
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,199
because that's where your party believes. When you really know

1336
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:18,880
it's it's it's it could really help people. Yeah, and

1337
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,680
help the help so many of the tax but so

1338
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,319
much and they pay so much in tax you know, they.

1339
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 2: Do pay so much in taxes.

1340
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 6: And just know that, you know, if you're in a

1341
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:35,000
state going forward that legalizes recreational marijuana use, or if

1342
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,680
you're in a state that embraces it, or if ever

1343
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,159
the day comes boss where you know, the federal law

1344
01:09:39,239 --> 01:09:43,199
changes to decriminalize marijuana, the day will come. And when

1345
01:09:43,239 --> 01:09:45,680
that day comes, I want you to think of sid Okay.

1346
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 2: We'll do. And that's that. That's the legacy.

1347
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:52,239
Speaker 6: He leaves behind driving without a license with eighteen grams

1348
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:55,840
of marijuana and plain sight. But the end is those

1349
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,079
are hidden under lock and key.

1350
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: Damn right. I couldn't find those if you try.

1351
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:01,279
Speaker 7: Now.

1352
01:10:01,319 --> 01:10:04,199
Speaker 6: I mentioned that the missing license thing. I highlighted that

1353
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:06,840
for a reason, we are now entering the point in

1354
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:11,399
Sid's life where it becomes essentially a meme that he

1355
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,840
misses shows, oh boy, and miss his shots for indie promoters.

1356
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:18,359
And these indie promoters are a little more savvy than

1357
01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:19,920
the ones he may have tried to get one over

1358
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,760
on a decade ago, in that they know how to

1359
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:26,119
use social media to broadcast to people like, this is

1360
01:10:26,119 --> 01:10:28,840
the game he's playing, this is the promises he.

1361
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: Made, you know, here's the proof.

1362
01:10:31,159 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 6: Here are the receipts, as they say, and this is

1363
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,760
what he said he would do, and this is what

1364
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,640
we ascertained he actually went ahead and did. And then

1365
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,960
these are the excuses he made when he didn't show up.

1366
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,439
And then patterns start to emerge across different promoters as

1367
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,199
they talk about dealing with Sid. This could be for

1368
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:51,640
autograph signings or wrestling matches or appearances, they're all sort

1369
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:57,840
of the same. And he is always citing a license thing.

1370
01:10:58,119 --> 01:11:01,880
It's either he lost his wallet and therefore can't get

1371
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,760
on the plane, yeah, or can't you know, can't drive,

1372
01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:09,800
or he doesn't have a license, so he they don't

1373
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,880
let him get on the plane because he doesn't have

1374
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,760
a license, or the or the license he does have.

1375
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,920
This is a good one, we'll get there. Doesn't comport

1376
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,239
with the new real ID laws, you know that don't

1377
01:11:19,239 --> 01:11:22,119
allow necessarily a state driver's license without a passport to

1378
01:11:22,119 --> 01:11:24,000
get on a plane. I don't know where my passport is,

1379
01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:26,439
of course you don't. You kne where it was when

1380
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,680
you hit France a couple of years ago. But and

1381
01:11:30,079 --> 01:11:31,920
just the missing wallet, and this, the idea of the

1382
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,279
wallet becomes central. You know how he always was so

1383
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,920
descriptive and schewting interviews about like the exact circumstances of

1384
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,920
receiving a phone call. He was very He remembered walking

1385
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,560
in the door, he remembered who answered the phone instead

1386
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,880
of him and passed him the phone. He's very much

1387
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,920
a magician when it comes to manipulating phone calls. He

1388
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,399
strategically misses right or coming up with all these for

1389
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,039
some reason, introducing all this detail about how the phone

1390
01:11:58,079 --> 01:12:00,560
call was placed. He called, you know, he called my

1391
01:12:01,279 --> 01:12:04,439
cousin's auto body shop, or he called me when I

1392
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,319
was just coming in the door. He's always coming in

1393
01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:08,039
and out of the door. Sid He's always in out

1394
01:12:08,039 --> 01:12:11,399
of the door and it's you know, we enter this

1395
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,880
modern age where promoters are comfortable going public when wrestlers

1396
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,880
screwed them over, and they have a platform if you

1397
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,079
have Facebook or whatever the case may be, to disseminate

1398
01:12:19,119 --> 01:12:21,319
those details, and the wrestling news sites will write that

1399
01:12:21,399 --> 01:12:21,960
up all day.

1400
01:12:22,279 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: And this is.

1401
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 6: Where sid his reputation for playing all these games crystallizes,

1402
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,840
and the whole house of cards falls apart. Like if

1403
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,399
you believe he got screwed once, you're like, oh, wait,

1404
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,239
he's actually he's actually claimed to have been screwed that

1405
01:12:36,279 --> 01:12:39,119
way ten thousand times, right, Or this one promoter got

1406
01:12:39,119 --> 01:12:40,640
in his bad side and he screwed him in no weight.

1407
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,239
There are ten thousand promoters he never once dealt with,

1408
01:12:43,319 --> 01:12:45,720
beyond it one no show that feel the same way

1409
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,920
about him. And so this becomes fairly or unfairly, I

1410
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,640
would are you fairly? I mean he certainly I think

1411
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,800
did it enough to establish a pattern part of his

1412
01:12:55,279 --> 01:12:57,199
tail reputation in the business towards the end of his

1413
01:12:58,119 --> 01:13:02,840
productive years. Twelve. This is an article that was published

1414
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,640
on Wrestle's Zone. It's not so much an article as

1415
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,199
it was an email response from an independent promoter for

1416
01:13:09,239 --> 01:13:13,159
the company pro wrestling syndicate named Eric, who emailed the

1417
01:13:13,159 --> 01:13:16,239
website kind of an explanation of what it was like,

1418
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,640
because you know what, Eric went ahead and did. Eric

1419
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,439
hit the ring when Sid no showed his show, and

1420
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,800
he cut a scathing promo and Sid for no showing,

1421
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,319
because you know, you got to if you can't deliver

1422
01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:28,600
the people, you don't want him ask a refund. So

1423
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,279
you go out there and try to turn the crowd

1424
01:13:30,319 --> 01:13:32,399
on the person, right right, that's what you do.

1425
01:13:33,239 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: You know he does.

1426
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 6: He goes in the ring and gives the whole audience

1427
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,239
Sid's personal phone number.

1428
01:13:37,119 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 2: So they, oh my god, so they can blow him

1429
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,680
up with complaints for no showing.

1430
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,239
Speaker 6: Oh my god, that I believe Sid had had a

1431
01:13:44,279 --> 01:13:47,920
whacky call forwarding mechanism where it was like, is it

1432
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,520
really his number? People didn't even know, mister, I don't

1433
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,760
have a computer, had like Google voice, you know, of course.

1434
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:59,359
And here's the email that that any promoter wrote to

1435
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,199
a wrestler's on that gives us a real uh, a

1436
01:14:02,279 --> 01:14:02,840
real flavor.

1437
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:03,079
Speaker 2: Boss.

1438
01:14:03,079 --> 01:14:05,199
Speaker 6: I'm gonna turn it over to you get your best,

1439
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,880
get your best indie voice on. And these are the

1440
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,600
things that they start to.

1441
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 2: So good oh my god.

1442
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 6: Hold on, uh, these are the things that start to

1443
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,880
get disseminated and things that start to get to be

1444
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:30,279
known about about Sid's dealings. This is from the promoter Eric,

1445
01:14:30,319 --> 01:14:31,119
who went by Eric.

1446
01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: Tap out.

1447
01:14:33,319 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 6: Okay, because he's comfortable with you knowing his name exactly,

1448
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,600
and go right to head boss. What did the email read?

1449
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: Hold on here? What is it? The Wait a minute,

1450
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,039
which one is the proto? Chris?

1451
01:14:51,399 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 7: There?

1452
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,159
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, something else came into the bottom. Okay, hold

1453
01:14:54,159 --> 01:15:03,920
on a lot here? Now where's this guy from? Who's

1454
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,560
this guy? He's the promoter of a wrestling outfit called

1455
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:14,720
Pro Wrestling Syndicate. Hey, Chris, thanks for the email. I

1456
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,119
enjoyed your your editorial, and do not fault you in

1457
01:15:17,119 --> 01:15:21,039
any way, shape or form for not having the full story. See,

1458
01:15:21,039 --> 01:15:23,079
you were simply going by what you were told from

1459
01:15:23,079 --> 01:15:27,600
a wrestler whom should be a valid, reliable source. The

1460
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,319
way we handled the SID no show was definitely a

1461
01:15:31,359 --> 01:15:35,640
controversial move. Some will side with it, and of course, likewise,

1462
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,960
some will we vocal against. Please understand that this is

1463
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:47,239
our third miserable experience third with SID. Third third miserable

1464
01:15:47,359 --> 01:15:50,720
experience with SID, which is what really pushes over the.

1465
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:55,119
Speaker 6: Top, also known by the way Boss is a big misunderstanding.

1466
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:02,520
Speaker 2: SID has burned us three times now. First time we

1467
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,239
had Sid booked was for May twenty eleven, said just

1468
01:16:06,279 --> 01:16:09,359
to sign autographs at the Queen's Elks Lodge for ninety

1469
01:16:09,359 --> 01:16:13,000
minutes before the show and wrestle against Eddie Kingston that night.

1470
01:16:14,279 --> 01:16:16,560
Said it was paid in full. When he arrived, he

1471
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,960
was in private room with Nick Foley and Velvet Sky

1472
01:16:19,079 --> 01:16:23,079
for autographs with a lot of two hundred plus. After

1473
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:25,840
legit fifteen minutes had got up, walked awayside and I

1474
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,199
don't feel like doing this anymore, going to the back.

1475
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:34,439
I don't feel like doing this anymore. You know what,

1476
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,680
I don't feel like doing this no more. Shut up.

1477
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,560
No one had said anything. He's just like I know

1478
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,720
you're about to say something before you say it. It's

1479
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,880
again this imagine. It's like, you know, he's sitting at

1480
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,319
a table. See I also picture I also picture the

1481
01:16:54,359 --> 01:16:58,680
signing room like in the wrestler Oh always the ten,

1482
01:16:59,079 --> 01:17:01,760
you know, and so he just like a you get

1483
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,840
a pale fluorescent light scheme all right overhead, pale fluorescent

1484
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,800
light scheme, and he's he's wearing a red plaid shirt

1485
01:17:11,319 --> 01:17:14,800
tucked into his jeans baseball hat, puts his hand on

1486
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,039
the table, stands up. I'll feel like doing this no more,

1487
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:26,680
and everyone's like looking at him. Okay, shut I don't

1488
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:31,600
want no back talk, I said versus Eddie Kingston was

1489
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,680
a major letdown, and that not that anyone was expecting

1490
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,520
a five star match. However, the crowd quickly turned on

1491
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,520
and said within thirty seconds. The video of the full

1492
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:44,880
match can be seen here. After the match, said came

1493
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,800
to the back and said, Eric, I should have listened

1494
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,479
to you. I've been doing this a long time when

1495
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,159
I was wrong. We'll do better next time. Okay, not

1496
01:17:51,239 --> 01:17:54,840
a problem. You fans were upset by not being able

1497
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,920
to get Sid's autograph with a sold out Elks Queen's

1498
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,880
Elk's Lodge event. He said something about no one bringing Vienna's.

1499
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,560
I don't know what the hell that's about, not probably

1500
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,000
the email. Therefore we tried. We decided to try it

1501
01:18:08,039 --> 01:18:10,640
again with Sud to meet the demands of our fans.

1502
01:18:11,159 --> 01:18:15,199
Sud was booked to compete for p WS on August twenty,

1503
01:18:15,239 --> 01:18:20,760
twenty eleven in Ronk and Koma from Konkoma, New York.

1504
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,479
We also got SID bookings to do two hour autograph

1505
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,159
session and signings at two stories during the weekend. SID

1506
01:18:28,319 --> 01:18:30,880
flight was not booked until two weeks before the PWS

1507
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,640
show because SID reference he did not know when he'd

1508
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,479
be returning from Africa with Kevin Sullivan. Since stated the

1509
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,560
Sullivan wanted him and wanted him in an Africa tour

1510
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,279
and did not know whether Sullivan will be flying SID

1511
01:18:44,319 --> 01:18:47,520
directly in New York for US or back home. Sud

1512
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:54,399
never went to Africa. Now, I don't know. Here's the thing,

1513
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:55,760
I don't know where I'm going to be on with

1514
01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:00,600
Africa US too much?

1515
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 6: Does A guy who always said I never wanted to travel,

1516
01:19:03,319 --> 01:19:07,119
I don't want to leave the country. It's go to

1517
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:09,239
Africa in twenty eleven.

1518
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:14,239
Speaker 2: Okay, oh god, you know. One week before August twenty shows,

1519
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,039
said contact PWS saying he needed us to fly in

1520
01:19:18,119 --> 01:19:22,239
his girlfriend as well just keep people happy. We agreed.

1521
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,680
A day later, she contact us again and said not

1522
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,439
to fly and his girlfriend. But since we agreed to it,

1523
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:34,079
to just give him the money for the flying. I

1524
01:19:34,119 --> 01:19:35,479
don't get the problem. I don't know why it is

1525
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,439
such a bad reputation again again keep fans happy. We

1526
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,079
sucked it up and agreed two days later said contract

1527
01:19:41,119 --> 01:19:43,720
to PWS again to go over that tenery for the weekend.

1528
01:19:44,319 --> 01:19:46,680
At this point he said he would only do one

1529
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,279
of the two store appearances, not both, but one of

1530
01:19:50,359 --> 01:19:52,319
the same payday as if he was doing everything in

1531
01:19:52,359 --> 01:19:56,199
addition to the prices of his girlfriend's flying and both

1532
01:19:56,199 --> 01:19:59,000
store appearances were heavily advertised at Dan Sherman store in

1533
01:19:59,079 --> 01:20:01,960
Staten Island and at Royal Collectibles and Queens. Yeah, I

1534
01:20:02,359 --> 01:20:02,880
forgot to say.

1535
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,359
Speaker 6: Pro wrestling seem to get a as a New York promotion,

1536
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,520
I know, but I guess this guy's an Athens, Georgia.

1537
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: You know, listen, everyone's fine, you know, it's it's a

1538
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,640
melting pot, it's a it's a you know, it's you know,

1539
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,520
this New York. The people from everywhere, you know.

1540
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 10: It was.

1541
01:20:19,279 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 2: I can't imagine a new you know, outside of Paul

1542
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:26,880
Hayman real New York are doing a wrestling promotion. It

1543
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,800
was pulled from Dan Van Sherman store again with a focus.

1544
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,880
So just let's just do whatever it takes to get

1545
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,720
Sid to PWS to ps of fans to then phone

1546
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,760
back to say that he would not do the full

1547
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:43,600
ninety sign the PWS. At that point, PWS explained that

1548
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,760
he agreed to do that and that's the major reason

1549
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,479
he was bringing brought in. They claimed he never agreed

1550
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,159
to do ninety minutes, but claimed he agreed to do

1551
01:20:51,239 --> 01:20:54,720
thirty minutes. PWS refer to the details that we're in

1552
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,439
the email to sit and explain his entire itinerary in full,

1553
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,159
as well as a PWS advertise a ninety minus to

1554
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:02,439
meet and greed featuring Sid and others for the past

1555
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:10,279
several weeks. Sid said, Yeah, you know, I think we

1556
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:15,520
have some red flags here. You'd say that again, Sid,

1557
01:21:16,279 --> 01:21:22,520
fucking Christ, He's fucking brilliant and this one PWS and

1558
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,640
Sid agreed that he'd be best if he stayed home.

1559
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,600
Was PWS announced. Immediately PWS ran with Dan mav versus

1560
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,479
Harry Smith Smith's post w W first post w match

1561
01:21:33,039 --> 01:21:35,079
his said and came out of pocket. Given the first

1562
01:21:35,079 --> 01:21:37,479
three hundred fans and ten it's a free PWS DVD

1563
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,159
to make up for Sid not being there. It's by

1564
01:21:40,279 --> 01:21:44,680
us again. Fans were upset that Sid wasn't there. After

1565
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,720
all that, once again with PAS our fans, we decided

1566
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,159
to try one final time with Sid. Said agreed wrestle

1567
01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:54,319
Matt Hardy on March twelve. March ninth, twenty twelve at

1568
01:21:54,319 --> 01:21:58,840
the Rahway Center Railway rec Center. Condition Is signed autographs

1569
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,479
for two hours before we decided to keep Sid's booking

1570
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,560
short and simple. I had no store appearances or convention

1571
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,159
appearances while he was in town. PWS was approached by

1572
01:22:09,239 --> 01:22:12,119
Kfab Commentary about their desire to do a shoot interview

1573
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:15,399
with Sid. After the PWS show, Sid accepted their offer.

1574
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,039
PWS was in contact with Sid on a weekly basis,

1575
01:22:19,039 --> 01:22:21,640
making sure the specifics of his book and were fresh

1576
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:26,079
on his mind. Sid was very polite, courteous, respectful, and

1577
01:22:26,199 --> 01:22:28,600
genuinely seemed like he was excited for the event, eager

1578
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,840
to wrestle Matt Hardy. We had zero reason to believe

1579
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:36,319
Sid would believe Sid would nothing, but was nothing but

1580
01:22:36,359 --> 01:22:41,279
a pleasure to work with. Based on these conversations, PWS

1581
01:22:41,319 --> 01:22:43,920
spoke to Sit at nine to forty five in March eighth.

1582
01:22:44,279 --> 01:22:46,399
Sid knew he had to catch a flight with six

1583
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,920
ams in the LaGuardia with a transfer Chicago O'Hare, and

1584
01:22:50,039 --> 01:22:52,920
knew that a gentleman driving a black Homer would would

1585
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,039
be picking up at the gate. SID was to land

1586
01:22:55,079 --> 01:22:58,600
at one pm in New York. At ten forty five

1587
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,399
am on Friday, March nine, PBS received a phone call

1588
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:07,279
from Sid which one as follows, Man, I'm not gonna

1589
01:23:07,279 --> 01:23:13,600
make it. We had an awkward pause waiting from to say, Hey,

1590
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:26,039
just kidding, what's wrong you okay? Man? Thing is I

1591
01:23:26,079 --> 01:23:29,600
went into a Dead Boy soda and someone stole my wallet.

1592
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:37,920
There we go there it is. That's it written in there,

1593
01:23:38,399 --> 01:23:40,880
you know the damn it's written in there. It is

1594
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,920
it isn't there. That's true. Yeah, it's in there. I

1595
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,199
wasn't doing that. That is actually in there in all caps.

1596
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,239
Damn it. He went in to buy a soda full grown, man,

1597
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,720
I want to do it by soda, and someone stole

1598
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,880
my walk like its gonna fucking steal his water. Like

1599
01:23:56,319 --> 01:23:58,239
even though even though he's fucking even though I know

1600
01:23:58,279 --> 01:24:02,640
he's basically a cripple, he's still fucking what six '

1601
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,479
ten whatever he is, Like, no one's gonna touch this

1602
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:10,720
fucking monster, all right, He's he's still a very you know,

1603
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,279
he feels aggressive. Right again, if you're looking at pickpock,

1604
01:24:15,399 --> 01:24:18,399
doing nothing makes you feel uncomfortable with this. You just

1605
01:24:18,399 --> 01:24:20,960
said that. I mean, if you're gonna pickpocket someone, if

1606
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,159
you leave the house to pickpocket someone, you're gonna skip SID. Okay,

1607
01:24:24,319 --> 01:24:29,680
yeah right, exactly. Wow, that's really horrible. Where are you now?

1608
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,600
I'm home now, I got a wasted day. Call and

1609
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:38,920
cancel my credit cards. Uh is there any way possible

1610
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,840
we can book you on a later flight and get

1611
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,960
you in New Jersey tonight? They stole my idea, I

1612
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:50,560
can't you know. I'll talk to you and call. Oh

1613
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,399
it's a good one, man, I gotta get into him.

1614
01:24:52,399 --> 01:24:54,479
That's a good one. I lost my wallet in El

1615
01:24:54,560 --> 01:25:01,600
Segundo exactly like a fucking oh god. Well no, someone

1616
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:07,279
stole my wallet off the counter. I guess yeah. PW

1617
01:25:07,399 --> 01:25:11,159
has tried diligently replaced Sid. We immediately began rapid firing calls.

1618
01:25:11,319 --> 01:25:13,600
Ken Anderson was contacted, but he was in Kentucky for

1619
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,840
a TNA house show. John Morrison was contact, was unable

1620
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:21,000
to do PWSD to a private sign in NYC. TNA's

1621
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,000
Bob Ryder was contact. Nobody available. Ess Promotions, Eric Sims,

1622
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:29,239
Same Deal, Kevin Steen, Jy Briscoe, Homicide MVP all received

1623
01:25:29,239 --> 01:25:31,439
calls as well. We were willing to make take on

1624
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,359
multiple names to replace SID. Besides, the best move we

1625
01:25:35,399 --> 01:25:39,600
could have we could make was Jay Lethal Balls, Maahone,

1626
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,279
Martin Jenny All wrestling on the event. We had little

1627
01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:45,680
time and not a lot of options. The Pro Wrestling

1628
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,680
syndic At Supercard twenty twelve event open with Pat Buck

1629
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,920
in the ring explaining exactly what happened with Sid. Sid's

1630
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,319
phone was called from the ring and it went to

1631
01:25:55,439 --> 01:26:02,680
voicemail while fans chanted their thoughts on side. The phone

1632
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,520
number was quickly read. Because we did not want anyone

1633
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,319
to think we were pulling a stunt by false advertising SID.

1634
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,279
It would have been very simple for anyone to turn

1635
01:26:11,319 --> 01:26:13,800
around and say, yeah, that's right. They probably called Domino's

1636
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,000
Pietz and I said, Vicious right, you know what, give

1637
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:20,479
that away? When they answered and said Dominos right, you know,

1638
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:21,960
I mean, if you're gonna put it on speaker, you

1639
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,800
don't actually need to give away the phone number. You

1640
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,319
can just wait for the voicemail or someone to pick up.

1641
01:26:26,399 --> 01:26:30,399
But you know, after all we have been through, was said,

1642
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,560
we wanted to extinguish any shadow of a doubt in

1643
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,960
anyone's mind about the situation right, PW has offered a

1644
01:26:36,039 --> 01:26:40,159
refund anyone in attendance, and nobody accepted. During an admission

1645
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:42,359
of the show, Pat Buck and myself encountered three fans

1646
01:26:42,359 --> 01:26:45,399
of the lobby area that were on the concession stand

1647
01:26:45,399 --> 01:26:49,199
line and there were verbally upset about sid not being

1648
01:26:49,199 --> 01:26:52,399
on the show. They said they felt cheated, and Pat

1649
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:56,039
Bucking myself asked them how much they paid for their tickets.

1650
01:26:56,359 --> 01:26:59,239
Wouldn't I mean, wouldn't you know how much the tickets were?

1651
01:27:00,319 --> 01:27:04,680
It's your show? Well, since you're asking two thousand dollars, well,

1652
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,680
we were told twenty dollars each. With sixty dollars cash

1653
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,720
in hand, we offer them full refund, saying you know

1654
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,880
you've just seen half a show of good wrestling for free. Curious,

1655
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:17,800
you're sixty dollars back and they decline. PWS, I'll hold

1656
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:26,279
you over right until the bank reopens. I'll tell and

1657
01:27:26,359 --> 01:27:28,279
we give you sixty dollars. I'll hold you over to

1658
01:27:28,319 --> 01:27:34,079
the bank. H I'll take two hundred dollars. Nold on,

1659
01:27:34,119 --> 01:27:37,159
Hold Hold a minute, Hold a minute. You understand your

1660
01:27:37,199 --> 01:27:39,760
money's not here. Not this thing all wrong, it's wrong.

1661
01:27:40,319 --> 01:27:43,279
Your money's not here. Your money's in a OL's house.

1662
01:27:43,319 --> 01:27:45,560
Your money's in Sid's house, in this house here in

1663
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,760
the building tonight. That's right. Your money's in the house

1664
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:55,000
that drew and the hols of seven gables and pws.

1665
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,520
But does believe in keeping things professional. We would never

1666
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,960
give out personal information on anyone unless there was an

1667
01:28:00,039 --> 01:28:04,319
extreme circumstance like this, like this, and we just we've

1668
01:28:04,399 --> 01:28:06,560
viewed the situation with Sid as just as being just

1669
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:12,520
that an extreme circumstance. For instance, zem Zema i On

1670
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:16,159
legit had car problems driving from Westerrginia, New Jersey in

1671
01:28:16,199 --> 01:28:19,239
March ninth. We know Zimma was being honest them. I

1672
01:28:19,319 --> 01:28:21,319
On is one of the nicest and most humble wrestlers

1673
01:28:21,359 --> 01:28:24,199
we've ever had on the pleasure pleasure working with. What's

1674
01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:26,680
your problem? You're I don't know who the zema Ion is,

1675
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,359
but clearly not from the generation that sids from right

1676
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,880
exactly right. That's your That's your biggest fucking blunder is

1677
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:38,399
that you're taking the word to somebody who who you know,

1678
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,239
this whole death, whole generation of wrestler. You cannot take

1679
01:28:41,279 --> 01:28:47,439
their word. In case the m i On it was unfortunate.

1680
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,880
He couldn't be there in March nine for PWS, but

1681
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:51,800
its said he was at the p w SHO on

1682
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,079
May fourth. Have the same venuine raulway, simple, no problem,

1683
01:28:55,119 --> 01:28:58,199
easy breezy. Once again, we apologize that Sid was not

1684
01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:01,800
a PWS in March ninth, Think Wressell a Hardy. We tried, guys,

1685
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,439
it really did multiple times. Ball's Mahony versus Mark Jenny

1686
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,560
was added so fans because still experience a match that

1687
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:12,119
has never happened before, because that's when everyone fucking wanted, right, Yeah,

1688
01:29:12,159 --> 01:29:13,840
everyone was really excited about that. That's what That's the

1689
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:17,640
one We've all been fucking clamoring for. Ball's Mahony versus

1690
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:23,000
Marty Jeannetti. I can't believe they showed up either. Yeah, right,

1691
01:29:23,399 --> 01:29:26,159
he's Marty. You know I like this, you know I

1692
01:29:26,279 --> 01:29:28,199
matched that has never happened before, and like it will

1693
01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:33,920
never happen again. You get that right? Yeah? Jay Jay

1694
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,079
Lethal was added wrestling Matt Hardy, which ended up being

1695
01:29:36,119 --> 01:29:39,479
a stellar bout and which saw Lethal enter to Sid's music,

1696
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:43,000
doing a spot on Sid impersonation, including his own rendition

1697
01:29:43,119 --> 01:29:45,119
of the infamous I have half the brain that you

1698
01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:45,800
do promo.

1699
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,119
Speaker 6: If anyone can find it. I really appreciate it's a

1700
01:29:49,159 --> 01:29:51,239
dead YouTube link. Now, a lot of this stuff was

1701
01:29:51,239 --> 01:29:53,520
blasted out at the time and has since been taken down.

1702
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,359
Probably Sid, Sid's lawyer gun on the phone. But yeah, right,

1703
01:29:56,359 --> 01:29:57,520
I'd love to see Jay.

1704
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 2: Lethal's uh, you know, chip Onto sh Older ciinimitation God. Yes,

1705
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,439
that would be absolutely amazing. After all this perhaps the

1706
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,319
most complexing thing the t pws that fans have to

1707
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:16,439
contacted us asking will Sid be at the next show? Right, Hurts.

1708
01:30:17,079 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 6: It comes down to that, And that's a great note

1709
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,720
there from from the promoter, Like we went through all this,

1710
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,479
We're the company that gave out Sid's cell phone number

1711
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,239
and called him in the ring when he know showed

1712
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,239
And what's the What's the thing people ask most about

1713
01:30:31,279 --> 01:30:34,279
after all this went down? So is he going to

1714
01:30:34,319 --> 01:30:34,960
come to the next show?

1715
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 2: When should come on the next show? What's wrong with

1716
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:42,880
these wrestling gus man? Like, you know this thing? I

1717
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:44,880
don't listen, I get it. You know, the fucking business

1718
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:48,079
is a fucking business, you know. So I'm not going

1719
01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:50,520
to tell you. You know, I don't take a reform when

1720
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,560
I still watch him fucking wrestling in the ring, you know,

1721
01:30:53,239 --> 01:31:05,880
but when Sid come back, he said, huhm h, I

1722
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,560
just I have no I have no I don't answer

1723
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,399
for you, sir at this time. I'm not I'm not

1724
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,199
obliged to say. I'm not at liberty to say. And

1725
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,720
I don't know. I don't know. I'mbarrassed. What do you

1726
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:25,279
mean you don't know, sir? I don't. I don't. I

1727
01:31:25,319 --> 01:31:28,640
don't know. He's not going to be here. She's gonna

1728
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:33,159
fucking be I mean, I came here to see fucking Sid, Sir.

1729
01:31:33,279 --> 01:31:39,000
He wasn't advertised to be here today. We haven't. We

1730
01:31:39,079 --> 01:31:41,920
haven't been in contact with him since, right, We've made

1731
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,840
the decision to break off. What do you mean you

1732
01:31:45,079 --> 01:31:47,159
you just cut him off and you're gonna let us fans?

1733
01:31:47,159 --> 01:31:50,119
Fucking what's your problem? I haven't seen him in years.

1734
01:31:50,119 --> 01:31:52,119
I a huge fan of his. I'm a big fucking

1735
01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:53,520
Sid fan. I was at the garden when he won

1736
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,560
the belt. I was there. I was the fucking you know,

1737
01:31:57,279 --> 01:31:59,159
So what are you doing? I want to shake man's hand.

1738
01:31:59,199 --> 01:32:01,479
I have ship from auto graph and selling me. Why

1739
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,399
are you fucking with me? Right exactly? Why are you

1740
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,560
fucking with me by not reaching back out to Sid?

1741
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,039
After he know showed sure, I'm not well, hold on,

1742
01:32:09,039 --> 01:32:13,079
he said, why are you fucking with me? Me? I sure,

1743
01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:15,479
I'm sure, you sure, I'm not fucking with you. I'm

1744
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:19,359
not all right. I just you know, we've been we've

1745
01:32:19,399 --> 01:32:21,039
been burned by said, you know, I don't want to

1746
01:32:21,359 --> 01:32:24,960
burn you ship here we go. I want to fucking

1747
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,640
burn your whole place down. How about that, sir? Please

1748
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:31,840
don't do that. Six hours later, the fan gets back

1749
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:38,720
to his house. How to go? Did you tell him?

1750
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,760
Did you tell him not to burn the place down?

1751
01:32:42,359 --> 01:32:45,279
Sid work in an angle he found out about what

1752
01:32:45,319 --> 01:32:51,079
they said about him. Yeah, yeah, I told him that, dad, Frank, Frank,

1753
01:32:51,119 --> 01:32:54,720
you did a good job. Maybe proud for once, for

1754
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,119
instant If you made me proud on the way home,

1755
01:32:57,159 --> 01:33:01,239
that's more important. More importantly, did you delivered the Vienna's

1756
01:33:01,239 --> 01:33:09,520
the Saint Patrick's? No got it? He says no.

1757
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,199
Speaker 6: He doesn't even say oh I forgot, or doesn't said

1758
01:33:12,199 --> 01:33:16,119
what are you talking about? He goes, no, I wonder

1759
01:33:16,199 --> 01:33:19,920
he's so frustrated as this kid Saint Patrick's Cathedral in

1760
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,560
New York City. You mean he's gonna leave like sixteen

1761
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:29,119
boxes of Vienna's on the front stoop of Saint Patrick's said,

1762
01:33:29,119 --> 01:33:31,159
they don't all have pop top events.

1763
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 2: I was gonna give Bishop an autograph picture walking around

1764
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:49,800
trying to hawk autograph pictures in Midtown. You understand, I

1765
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,319
got so many fucking pictures. It has to be over

1766
01:33:52,359 --> 01:33:58,680
in New York. First down, New York. I think you

1767
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:05,279
understand what New York means to me. I'm sorry, dad,

1768
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:09,119
we stopped speaking with a stupid fucking accident from New York.

1769
01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:14,199
Stop being a bitch. Did you do it?

1770
01:34:15,319 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 6: Did you go up to the promoter and say, why

1771
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,760
are you fucking with me? His sid wants to know

1772
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,359
if he's gonna get booked again so we could do

1773
01:34:22,399 --> 01:34:23,359
it again, So we.

1774
01:34:23,359 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 2: Can do it again. This guy keep this game going on.

1775
01:34:29,079 --> 01:34:31,439
I don't know, Erica, you have to fly my girlfriend

1776
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:35,359
over and all right, fine, I don't know. He keeps going.

1777
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,119
I'm gonna say, here's the thing. Now, I lost my

1778
01:34:38,239 --> 01:34:42,000
wallet stolen. That's what happened. I was going in Delhi.

1779
01:34:42,199 --> 01:34:45,640
I was getting a package of bubble gum. Oh, I'm sorry, man,

1780
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:51,880
I don't know what happened. I got my package of

1781
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:55,479
bubble cow and okay, and how to go from there? Said?

1782
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,920
Tell me the exact story about how you lost your wallet.

1783
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,840
I really want to lose like a stolen God comp

1784
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,279
me with a gun behind my head, Oh, he said Sid,

1785
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,920
He said, Sid, give me your fucking wallet. He knew

1786
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,479
you by name. Huh And what am I supposed to do?

1787
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:10,560
Speaker 10: Oh?

1788
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 2: My god, gun back my head.

1789
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 6: So if this happens, said, I'd imagine if I called

1790
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,279
Memphis police, they would confirm it.

1791
01:35:15,359 --> 01:35:18,399
Speaker 2: Right, you can call anybody you want, they'll confirm me.

1792
01:35:19,239 --> 01:35:19,680
Ha ha ha.

1793
01:35:21,239 --> 01:35:23,119
Speaker 6: And at the end he goes, so, just just so

1794
01:35:23,199 --> 01:35:25,880
we are on the same page, Eric, who are you

1795
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,399
gonna call? And like before he calls him, Sid calls him,

1796
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:29,640
you'd listen to me right now.

1797
01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 2: They listen to me right now. I want you to

1798
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,479
understand something you make that call, bad things gonna happen.

1799
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 6: You can call anybody you want and they'll confirm it.

1800
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:42,880
But I'll tell you one thing. If you make those calls,

1801
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:49,319
bad things are gonna happen. So okay, let's go back

1802
01:35:49,359 --> 01:35:51,119
to the story. Then said, I won't call anybody. I'll

1803
01:35:51,119 --> 01:35:52,760
take your word for it. I mean, you've been missed

1804
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,800
an upfront with us. So a guy just walked up

1805
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,520
this mus have been horrifying. You guys walked up to

1806
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,359
you and what stuck a gun in your back or something?

1807
01:36:00,039 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 2: Going to tell you were struck a gun. That's called

1808
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:07,000
Franklin on your business. What happened was he struck a

1809
01:36:07,039 --> 01:36:11,479
gun and he said, sid, I'm taking your wallet. It

1810
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,960
is so funny that he refuses to specify where the

1811
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,439
gun was, like like, that's like that's something to withhold.

1812
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:24,119
There's any reason whatsoever to make that the the withheld detail,

1813
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,079
like and there's no way you know, and it's like nothing,

1814
01:36:28,239 --> 01:36:30,680
you know, you can say whatever he wanted to exactly.

1815
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,960
That's what I mean. It's all he gets a risk

1816
01:36:34,039 --> 01:36:37,159
to tell the truth about that. It's okay.

1817
01:36:37,239 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 6: And then what happened He put the gun and then

1818
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:39,720
you just gave him your wallet.

1819
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,199
Speaker 2: He put the gun because he say he's gonna shoot me.

1820
01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:43,319
Speaker 15: Now.

1821
01:36:43,319 --> 01:36:45,039
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I don't know if

1822
01:36:45,039 --> 01:36:47,439
you've ever been threatened not that before, but I have.

1823
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,840
And I got a broken leg and I don't have

1824
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,119
what I had when I was younger because my leg

1825
01:36:55,279 --> 01:36:59,439
snapped in half. And so I said, he knew what

1826
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,239
I didn't want. There are other people in the deli,

1827
01:37:02,359 --> 01:37:06,760
people eating food. I said, I'm looking. I'm not going

1828
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:11,880
to risk the safety of others. And they're all looking.

1829
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,319
They all saw the gun in my back right? Oh true?

1830
01:37:14,359 --> 01:37:17,199
Oh what was your back? Okay, behind me? Thanks for

1831
01:37:17,239 --> 01:37:19,560
confirming that I was wondering. They said, I didn't say

1832
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,159
my back, Yes you did, I said in back of me.

1833
01:37:22,319 --> 01:37:24,960
Oh you said in your back in my back of me?

1834
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,840
Oh okay, Sorry, I must have been heard somehow. I

1835
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,600
always find myself doing that when I'm on the phone

1836
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:40,520
with you. And then what you don't understand, and what

1837
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:46,199
you don't know is that there were three others. Oh okay,

1838
01:37:46,319 --> 01:37:48,359
so this is is more to this than I thought.

1839
01:37:48,359 --> 01:37:53,920
What happens? Then you had three people guns aiming everywhere

1840
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,640
different parts of my body. They repelled from the ceiling

1841
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:04,680
like the cops and Christmas vacation when he and suddenly

1842
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:12,800
the whole the whole day was surrounded by guns. And

1843
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:16,560
so I was forced be on a shadow of doubt,

1844
01:38:18,359 --> 01:38:23,800
hand over my wallet on my identification, and now I

1845
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:28,560
have to spend the next day casting credit cards and

1846
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:37,560
castling my library card. Yeah, I guess God fed the

1847
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,199
thieves take out a fucking you know Pardi Boys novel.

1848
01:38:41,279 --> 01:38:43,039
I'd say, I'm want to you right now, I'm gonna

1849
01:38:43,079 --> 01:38:45,880
tell you something real simple. I'm not gonna be paying

1850
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:47,840
fines for someone else taking the library cards. That's my

1851
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:48,680
name exactly.

1852
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,119
Speaker 6: That's how he's been victimized by that before. It's not

1853
01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:59,479
gonna happen again, he said. He said, taking library cards out.

1854
01:38:59,319 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 2: With my name not book.

1855
01:39:02,199 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 6: Said, Oh, well, you know, Sid, I'm glad we talked

1856
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,880
it out because at the end of the day, I'm

1857
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,600
frustrated that you're not here. But it sounds like you

1858
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:20,520
did the honorable thing.

1859
01:39:26,359 --> 01:39:32,119
Speaker 2: You fuck with me, great response, he sniffs. He sniffs

1860
01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:35,399
an opportunity to turn it around, because right because if

1861
01:39:35,399 --> 01:39:38,159
he takes this chance to make it like like he's

1862
01:39:38,159 --> 01:39:40,520
like he's been offended, then like he he can just

1863
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,600
talk his way around any further inquiry about, you know,

1864
01:39:45,199 --> 01:39:48,239
the betrayal. That's tremendous stuff. He would totally do that.

1865
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,359
I'm insulted. At the end of the day, I'm insulted,

1866
01:39:52,039 --> 01:39:54,399
and I'm wondering why he's doing this to me. Why

1867
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:55,800
do I have to get in all this detail with you?

1868
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,800
What entitles you to this level of details? If I

1869
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,479
prove my ID, have I not been thrown enough. Have

1870
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:04,479
I not? Have I not just give you my word

1871
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:09,319
every time? Do is my word mean nothing? What is

1872
01:40:09,359 --> 01:40:13,520
it about you? Oh mm hmm? What it's about you?

1873
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:18,640
In trust? Yeah? I'm a good Christian. I'm a good

1874
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:23,720
Christian man. I do things the way God intended. And

1875
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:27,680
what a God intend for you? Right, I'm more importantly

1876
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:32,319
what a God intend for me to do? You you want

1877
01:40:32,319 --> 01:40:35,720
me come New York? If you want me to come here,

1878
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,439
I'll do that right now, and I will break things.

1879
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:44,079
Send me your address, send me your address, send where

1880
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:45,680
you live. I'll fuck you up.

1881
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:49,159
Speaker 6: Oh ship, He's not he's he's not even like being,

1882
01:40:50,199 --> 01:40:52,840
you know, ephimistic about it anymore. He's just saying he's

1883
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,800
gonna fuck you up. Call the cops, go ahead, do it.

1884
01:40:56,359 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 2: You want to call police on me, fine, I won't.

1885
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 6: Show up right and I'll tell him I was just

1886
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,439
a gunpoint and two hours ago, and this guy's give

1887
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:07,119
me a hard time.

1888
01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:09,039
Speaker 2: I want to say this. I told this guy exactly

1889
01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:11,880
what happened. I told him now. I was a gunpoint by.

1890
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,039
Speaker 6: Eighty men, and I saved all those lives in that deli,

1891
01:41:14,199 --> 01:41:15,560
And now you're coming around trying.

1892
01:41:15,359 --> 01:41:20,239
Speaker 2: To I'm a Goddamn, he wrote, this guy's giving me

1893
01:41:20,279 --> 01:41:20,840
a hard time.

1894
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:23,520
Speaker 7: Now.

1895
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:25,079
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of stress this man's ever

1896
01:41:25,079 --> 01:41:29,359
been under, but I doubt I doubt he's ever had

1897
01:41:29,399 --> 01:41:32,880
a gun. Let a litone eighty guns aimed at it,

1898
01:41:33,039 --> 01:41:37,359
at various parts of his body. Eighty start counting one,

1899
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:39,439
two and get to eighty, and then so many guns

1900
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:43,319
there are. I mean, like your entire body would be

1901
01:41:43,319 --> 01:41:49,159
covered with like fifteen, you know, let alone eighty. Just

1902
01:41:49,279 --> 01:41:52,199
and all those people bring all that firepowers, they could

1903
01:41:52,199 --> 01:41:56,600
dig one guy's wallet exactly because they know exactly who

1904
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:02,239
wa it was. They knew then he knows sids wallet,

1905
01:42:03,239 --> 01:42:08,199
and they knew that Sid's wallet rules the world. And

1906
01:42:08,319 --> 01:42:10,479
before I got hit in the head with a shot,

1907
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,680
I handed it over and I wouldn't going to let

1908
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:16,000
my head be hit with a shot.

1909
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 6: You heard in that story and that email from the promoter,

1910
01:42:20,079 --> 01:42:22,399
that part of the gig was that Sid was to

1911
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:24,920
do a taping for k Fabe Commentaries. He has never

1912
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:26,840
done a shoot interview for that outfit. He's done some,

1913
01:42:27,279 --> 01:42:30,279
as we mentioned for our video and Hannibal and Sean Oliver,

1914
01:42:30,359 --> 01:42:33,439
of course, was the proprietor and creator of k fape

1915
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:37,479
commentaries these days co hosts Kevin Nash's podcast, and he

1916
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,640
did a book which is actually a pretty terrific little

1917
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,600
book about putting together a shoot interview, a wrestling shoot, interview, business,

1918
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:45,079
DVD mail order business.

1919
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 2: It's amazing and how.

1920
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:50,119
Speaker 6: Many, uh, how many wild and crazy stories you have

1921
01:42:50,199 --> 01:42:51,600
trying to corral these carnies.

1922
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 2: For sure, I can imagine, Oh my.

1923
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:58,199
Speaker 6: God, and that it's called k fabe stories you're not

1924
01:42:58,199 --> 01:43:00,560
supposed to hear from a pro wrestling production cony owner.

1925
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:05,880
And he talks about this moment with Sid. We also,

1926
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:07,600
I'm not going to do this accent. I could try it.

1927
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,520
We also had an episode of Breaking Kfabe Ready to

1928
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:14,439
Go for Sid Vicious If you remember, that series focuses

1929
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,960
on the people behind the wrestling personas a large part

1930
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,079
of Sid's show was written to focus on the pervasive

1931
01:43:19,159 --> 01:43:23,720
notion that Sid was problematic to hire. From a talent standpoint,

1932
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,279
Sid was a test tube pro wrestler. He had the

1933
01:43:26,279 --> 01:43:30,119
perfect look. He was huge, chiseled monster. His promos, while

1934
01:43:30,119 --> 01:43:33,359
sometimes clumsy, were loaded with intensity. According to the Checklist,

1935
01:43:33,399 --> 01:43:35,159
Sid should have been one of the biggest stars ever

1936
01:43:35,359 --> 01:43:37,920
and should have worked far longer than he did. Sid's

1937
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,680
great look and intensity aside, he began to be seen

1938
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:45,000
as unreliable. He reportedly no showed gigs. He has lost

1939
01:43:45,039 --> 01:43:47,600
dates during softball season due to his passion for the sport.

1940
01:43:48,199 --> 01:43:50,399
When the hell is? When the hell is softball season?

1941
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,479
Great question? It's a good question.

1942
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:55,079
Speaker 2: Sid had done to shoot. This is a great question.

1943
01:43:55,359 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 6: Sid had done to shoot interview with another company before,

1944
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,319
but outside some podcasts, not appeared on a shoot program

1945
01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:03,159
in some time. We thought this would be a good

1946
01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:05,720
get for us, but talking about the upcoming booking was

1947
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:09,239
always accompanied by a disclaimer about the great possibility that

1948
01:44:09,279 --> 01:44:13,239
this wouldn't happen. I'm always one to give someone the

1949
01:44:13,279 --> 01:44:14,239
benefit of the doubt.

1950
01:44:14,319 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 2: Now I want to tell you some right now. The

1951
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,840
one thing I can promise you is that this may

1952
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:18,399
not happen.

1953
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:21,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is a promise it is prepared to make,

1954
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:25,960
can confirm. So through the frivolity, we pressed on and

1955
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:29,560
were ready to go. The suite was booked, contractors hired,

1956
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,960
show written, and my soup pressed and in the garment bag.

1957
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,600
Around eleven am on the day we were to shoot,

1958
01:44:36,079 --> 01:44:38,359
I got a text from another shoot producer letting me

1959
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,880
know as a courtesy that he heard Sid was not

1960
01:44:41,079 --> 01:44:41,680
on the plane.

1961
01:44:42,119 --> 01:44:42,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

1962
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,319
Speaker 6: I immediately texted the promoter through whom we booked Sid.

1963
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:47,640
He said he didn't have details yet, he'd get back

1964
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,199
to me. Well, that's sure, a shit didn't sound like

1965
01:44:50,279 --> 01:44:52,159
Sid's on the flight, and we'll be here in a

1966
01:44:52,159 --> 01:44:55,560
couple of hours. I waited impatiently for the promoter who

1967
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,319
had Sid advertised to headline two days of shows for

1968
01:44:58,359 --> 01:45:00,960
his company to call with news. He got back to

1969
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:04,439
me with the inevitable and an explanation from Sid. Mister

1970
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:08,399
Vicious would not be boarding a flight that day.

1971
01:45:10,399 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 2: He did not be. That's right, and damn right.

1972
01:45:18,039 --> 01:45:21,159
Speaker 6: Seems he lost his wallet at the airport and wouldn't

1973
01:45:21,159 --> 01:45:24,279
be able to fly. I was because this this was lost.

1974
01:45:24,039 --> 01:45:26,279
Speaker 2: At the airport. God loss at the airport.

1975
01:45:26,079 --> 01:45:29,399
Speaker 6: That one's coming to, not that morning, not two hours

1976
01:45:29,399 --> 01:45:31,720
from then, and I guess not at all. He had

1977
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:34,279
to get right to work finding the wallet and straightening

1978
01:45:34,359 --> 01:45:38,399
up the ramifications of its loss. Our loss was negligible.

1979
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,319
We didn't pay anything. I canceled the suite, told our

1980
01:45:41,319 --> 01:45:43,640
contractors there was no payday that weekend, and scratched the

1981
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,039
show from the release calendar. No Loss really just no.

1982
01:45:47,119 --> 01:46:04,359
Speaker 1: Sid a laptand wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows

1983
01:46:04,399 --> 01:46:22,439
the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's

1984
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:26,159
the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack N. Carn Seo,

1985
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:27,560
MJP Soro.

1986
01:46:28,239 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 6: Wow, so I think we have our working title No

1987
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:36,199
Loss really just knows it And now no No maybe

1988
01:46:36,199 --> 01:46:38,279
he started to get all shady about these indie shots

1989
01:46:38,279 --> 01:46:43,840
because WWE was actually suddenly like actually entertaining, bringing him

1990
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:47,039
in for the first time after all these years as

1991
01:46:47,079 --> 01:46:52,039
part of the Raw one thousand festivities we've been talking about.

1992
01:46:52,399 --> 01:46:54,199
I'm going to provide you boss with a link and

1993
01:46:54,279 --> 01:46:56,760
anybody out there in the Solar system can find the

1994
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,840
same file this on YouTube. There's a couple of versions

1995
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:04,600
of this. One is clearly transferred over from the actual broadcast.

1996
01:47:05,199 --> 01:47:09,640
It's not the WWE YouTube account one, which is you know,

1997
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,479
much better quality. However, that cuts out a lot of

1998
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:15,199
important things sure from the segment. So this is going

1999
01:47:15,239 --> 01:47:16,800
to kind of set the table of how ww was

2000
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,239
bringing any guys of Sid's vintage around this time to

2001
01:47:19,279 --> 01:47:22,119
commemorate Raw one thousand and using Heath Slater as kind

2002
01:47:22,119 --> 01:47:24,039
of the mouthpiece that would talk it up and then

2003
01:47:24,079 --> 01:47:27,079
get beat down, And here it is, after all those years,

2004
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:29,920
and after it seems such a such a dead issue

2005
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:33,479
with the injury and everything. Sid returns to the WW

2006
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:37,319
spotlight one more time. The video is Heath's Slater versus Psycho.

2007
01:47:37,399 --> 01:47:40,520
Sid return in parenthesis and Boss, when you have it up,

2008
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:40,960
let me know.

2009
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:45,159
Speaker 2: I'm ready. All right, let's let it roll in three

2010
01:47:45,399 --> 01:47:47,119
to one play.

2011
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:51,159
Speaker 3: Cooperstars for the past are maybe their return two weeks ago?

2012
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,119
Who would ever forget the appearance by the well, the

2013
01:47:54,239 --> 01:47:55,640
mask on No, it is.

2014
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,119
Speaker 2: Vader, Look at Vader, look at him by the door

2015
01:48:00,039 --> 01:48:02,960
going up with a nag Vander Ball. And then last

2016
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:07,239
week it was the Sad Sack Foley. It calls sad Sack. Yeah,

2017
01:48:07,319 --> 01:48:10,720
they got called to call him sad Sack. And then

2018
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:12,920
he called Roddy Piper decrepit.

2019
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 16: Hor Everybody love seeing the hot Rod back in action.

2020
01:48:19,319 --> 01:48:25,079
Speaker 3: Probably not another superstar who we're told man Veal Ganda battle.

2021
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,199
Speaker 6: A superstar who hasn't been on Raw in fifteen years.

2022
01:48:28,199 --> 01:48:29,520
As we go to break, we Come Back.

2023
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:34,359
Speaker 17: Contest features a former Raw main eventnor It's the Honor

2024
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:38,520
The one thousand episode of Monday Night Raw, July twenty third,

2025
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:43,119
please welcome former two times.

2026
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 2: I love this guy. What do you love about this

2027
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,119
guy who's the one man of rock Bad. He's like,

2028
01:48:49,319 --> 01:48:54,479
oh god, the guy, the guy that seems to.

2029
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 3: Think that all our horler raw Man should be put out.

2030
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:01,239
Speaker 2: The fast and stated what a goof not like the

2031
01:49:02,359 --> 01:49:07,640
great saying boys instrument, crowd's going nuts.

2032
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:13,039
Speaker 6: This was during Michael Cole's healed Yes, Yes, that's I

2033
01:49:13,079 --> 01:49:15,680
keep saying. It's why he keeps degrading the legends and

2034
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:19,560
they always can hide behind you know him being it's

2035
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:20,920
just a heel.

2036
01:49:22,319 --> 01:49:28,319
Speaker 2: Say that Piper is a pitch exactly. Say you're seeing

2037
01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:29,239
like a bird.

2038
01:49:30,199 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 8: Like a vulture.

2039
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:39,600
Speaker 2: Cindy Lauper there, Yeah, Wendy Richter and Wendy Richter then

2040
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:42,439
brought back Wendy, you think all these all these former

2041
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,880
RAW appearance Yeah, Wendy meant so much to Raw, didn't.

2042
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 3: She said earlier he was pretty as a picture.

2043
01:49:49,039 --> 01:49:52,640
Speaker 2: So Cindy Lapper framed him an autograph picture one man, Ye,

2044
01:49:58,119 --> 01:50:01,399
look at his hair? What Vader.

2045
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:09,359
Speaker 12: I don't care your Roddy Piper thinks about me. Yeah,

2046
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:18,800
I am one of the top superstars on RAW. I

2047
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,920
am He's Slater.

2048
01:50:23,279 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 18: And ah rule the world.

2049
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh man, I said, ah, because I miss

2050
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:33,840
a music cue.

2051
01:50:36,199 --> 01:50:39,600
Speaker 11: Whoa wait just a minute, look at this.

2052
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 2: Describe what you see, please, Oh my god, Peter, it

2053
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:49,239
comes out. He's got jeans, he's wearing a vest, He's

2054
01:50:49,239 --> 01:50:53,119
got knee pads over his jeans. He looks like an

2055
01:50:53,159 --> 01:50:56,359
eighty year old man. He get into year old man.

2056
01:50:56,439 --> 01:51:02,439
Let me like like that. Terry Funk looks younger than him.

2057
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,760
He used to call himself two times. I mean, his

2058
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:11,840
hair is a disaster, just fucking He thinks this is

2059
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,520
the start of a run, and oh, he definitely does.

2060
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:17,119
He thinks he's getting world titled by everyone's gonna agree

2061
01:51:17,119 --> 01:51:19,920
to take a power bomb and all that. Basic Man

2062
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:23,640
promised to be a main event with Hulk Hogan wrestle

2063
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:27,119
Mania teen years later. Michael Cole will call that June nine,

2064
01:51:27,279 --> 01:51:32,359
nineteen ninety seven. I think of July ninth. But you

2065
01:51:32,399 --> 01:51:35,319
know what, they're still fucking going for him. Yep. I

2066
01:51:35,319 --> 01:51:36,640
want you to focus on that too.

2067
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 3: It was part of a million dollar corporation. He won

2068
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,479
his first championship in the nineteen ninety six Survivor.

2069
01:51:42,199 --> 01:51:51,600
Speaker 2: Series Dye Jeans. Listen to those people, yep. One man

2070
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:57,760
shocking throws his open hand on on Heath Slater's throat and.

2071
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:02,079
Speaker 6: Just standing around from West Memphis.

2072
01:52:02,079 --> 01:52:04,199
Speaker 2: Oh, he's kicking him. Was it his bad leg though?

2073
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:09,199
Speaker 6: Who sets him on the top rope with a double

2074
01:52:09,239 --> 01:52:11,600
goosele and slaps him.

2075
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:17,039
Speaker 2: Jesus out of the apron. He's doing nothing, He's doing nothing.

2076
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:20,199
He lifts him up. Oh, the worst spinebuster in the history.

2077
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:24,840
Just move after move with no nothing in between. Oh,

2078
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:26,760
he misses the right hand. He goes to the bad

2079
01:52:27,039 --> 01:52:34,199
psychology said false. He's down on all both knees. Oh,

2080
01:52:34,199 --> 01:52:38,840
he's selling all right. He gets up, hells over with

2081
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:43,239
the clothesline, just takes his head off. It looks like

2082
01:52:43,279 --> 01:52:45,640
an old farmer. He drops a leg.

2083
01:52:46,159 --> 01:52:57,399
Speaker 16: Get here, Psycho call spots Patten did release power bomb?

2084
01:52:57,399 --> 01:53:04,680
Speaker 2: Thank you? Michael Cole said, oh he did. Look he

2085
01:53:05,199 --> 01:53:09,840
puts his hand on his chest. Oh, he definitely thinks

2086
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:16,000
he's getting a run. Psycho sick. Is this for deacent?

2087
01:53:16,119 --> 01:53:19,960
Serious tuning? And that man is he looks absolutely spent

2088
01:53:22,119 --> 01:53:23,000
rona celebrator?

2089
01:53:23,039 --> 01:53:24,159
Speaker 7: What time this episode?

2090
01:53:24,239 --> 01:53:27,600
Speaker 2: And he knocks on the one man rock Man eats lighter.

2091
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:29,800
Well he's a little older, but.

2092
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 15: He still Psycho.

2093
01:53:36,119 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 1: I hope he does come over here.

2094
01:53:38,399 --> 01:53:45,359
Speaker 2: Hey from Psycho to Beautiful Superstars, Psycho said, Psycho said, still.

2095
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,640
Speaker 6: Psycho said, takes me all the way back to what

2096
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:51,399
great American Bash eighty nine? Yeah, just the sight of him,

2097
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:53,439
and they can't stop chanting his name even after all

2098
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:53,960
these years.

2099
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he looks like a guy.

2100
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,039
Speaker 6: He looks like a guy who showed up to complain

2101
01:53:59,119 --> 01:54:00,960
that his property tax bill is too high.

2102
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Absolutely, he does not look like a

2103
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:06,760
wrestler anymore. No, he is definitely.

2104
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:07,119
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2105
01:54:07,159 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 2: He listen, he is upset because he his farm is

2106
01:54:11,039 --> 01:54:15,560
losing money, right, all right, government overreach. Yeah, you know

2107
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:17,640
he's a guy that says that with a straight face.

2108
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:20,760
That's that's where he's at in life. And he and

2109
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:26,399
he and he, you know, he just he just looks

2110
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:29,520
like a guy who is now just a citizen, you.

2111
01:54:29,399 --> 01:54:34,319
Speaker 6: Know, exactly, and he's no longer special. And you know,

2112
01:54:34,319 --> 01:54:37,560
he reflected favorably on the experience he was asked about

2113
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:39,039
on his podcast, and he said it was fun for

2114
01:54:39,039 --> 01:54:43,399
what it was. He says, I think you know there

2115
01:54:43,439 --> 01:54:44,439
was some indies and they.

2116
01:54:44,359 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 2: Told me I was going to get a run. I

2117
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,760
don't you know, I don't know exactly what happened, because

2118
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:51,359
they told me, you know, they said, Sidy, you come

2119
01:54:51,359 --> 01:54:54,720
in here, you win the match. If you win the match,

2120
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:57,600
he would give you a possible run. I thought the

2121
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:59,520
phone was going to ring. I was waiting for the

2122
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,199
phone around. It's not a contract or.

2123
01:55:01,239 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 6: Sid again walking in the door, absolutely refusing to do

2124
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:09,880
anything but powerbomb one two three, exactly tremendous. Oh, she said,

2125
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:11,279
I enjoyed it a lot s later. It's a great

2126
01:55:11,279 --> 01:55:12,720
guy to work with, and he made it a totally

2127
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:13,880
night totally a night off.

2128
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 2: Well he did. He did come back. He came back

2129
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:19,319
a wrong wrong one thousand. Oh. The show itself, okay,

2130
01:55:19,359 --> 01:55:20,840
do you stand in the ring? I kind of remember this.

2131
01:55:21,119 --> 01:55:24,359
He was reading it here. So on July twenty third,

2132
01:55:24,399 --> 01:55:30,119
he he helped Lita take down Heath Slater, so a

2133
01:55:30,159 --> 01:55:32,640
bunch of them all came out. It was yeah, Sid,

2134
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:38,960
and I'm looking at the picture now on Wikipedia. Sid Rakishi, Piper, DDP,

2135
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:45,199
Bob Beckland, Slaughter, Farouk, jbl Animal and Voder.

2136
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:48,199
Speaker 6: It was like an ensemble. Yeah, I remember him being

2137
01:55:48,199 --> 01:55:49,000
in an ensemble scene.

2138
01:55:49,039 --> 01:55:50,479
Speaker 2: Now that you say that, I mean he's looking at

2139
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,199
it he's like he just pissed off, and he's not.

2140
01:55:53,079 --> 01:55:54,399
When you look at his face, he looks like a

2141
01:55:54,479 --> 01:55:56,359
complete Oh he's just not even there. It's just a

2142
01:55:56,359 --> 01:55:57,920
background character. It's not what he showed up for.

2143
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,239
Speaker 6: He's got to be made a bentner, all right, sole

2144
01:56:00,359 --> 01:56:02,760
focus can't even be in a tag team or stately.

2145
01:56:03,359 --> 01:56:05,359
But yeah, I was just going through matches and that's

2146
01:56:05,399 --> 01:56:05,880
not a match.

2147
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:09,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's right. So there he is.

2148
01:56:09,399 --> 01:56:11,039
Speaker 6: And you know they asked him once about, you know,

2149
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:13,399
what he thought about the reception he got in the back.

2150
01:56:13,399 --> 01:56:14,640
He said, you know, it was a really good reception

2151
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:16,640
in the back. Everybody was real respectful. A couple of

2152
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:18,880
guys I knew, younger guys they were again said a

2153
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:20,920
few things. I won't say what, but just really nice

2154
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:22,640
to hear. I had a lot of respect for those

2155
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:23,319
guys as well.

2156
01:56:23,399 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 2: Why he won't say if it's nice to hear, what's wrong?

2157
01:56:26,279 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 19: What do you?

2158
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,239
Speaker 6: I'm just I say that only to illustrate the classicness

2159
01:56:29,279 --> 01:56:31,960
of Sid. Every time he puts his mouth, it's like, oh, okay,

2160
01:56:32,119 --> 01:56:34,520
that was that was actually a pleasant experience and a

2161
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:35,279
pleasant response.

2162
01:56:35,319 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 2: All there it is.

2163
01:56:36,319 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 6: There's the twist at the end, where he was kind

2164
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,319
of aggrieved and somehow it insulted by the whole thing.

2165
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:43,800
But no, he says it was a good experience all around.

2166
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,399
One thing he did note, though, about the changes in

2167
01:56:46,439 --> 01:56:47,840
the business and the company when he went back for

2168
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:49,560
this twenty twelve stint, if you want to call it,

2169
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,640
that was that he just couldn't survive in the way

2170
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:55,720
that everything was set up back then at that time period.

2171
01:56:56,239 --> 01:56:58,359
Speaker 13: I think the scriptive part.

2172
01:56:58,399 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 20: And I was a part of that anniversary show several

2173
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,760
years ago, and man, I'm telling you, everybody's there is unhappy.

2174
01:57:05,199 --> 01:57:05,239
Speaker 19: No.

2175
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 15: I remember he Slater, he had to do an interview.

2176
01:57:08,119 --> 01:57:10,039
He woulted to change like one little word.

2177
01:57:10,079 --> 01:57:12,439
Speaker 20: And if he would have changed that one word, just

2178
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:13,920
phrased it a little bit, it would have been a

2179
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:16,279
better interview. But he was scared to do that because

2180
01:57:16,279 --> 01:57:18,399
he would have got in trouble. Now, if I'd been

2181
01:57:18,439 --> 01:57:20,279
in that spot and it being a live TV I

2182
01:57:20,319 --> 01:57:23,279
would have changed it because I knew I would have

2183
01:57:23,279 --> 01:57:27,159
got myself over a lot of times, like the wwe

2184
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:31,560
don't have things set up for you, we don't get over,

2185
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:33,359
And I think that's a big mistake.

2186
01:57:34,079 --> 01:57:35,039
Speaker 2: Let the people get over.

2187
01:57:35,119 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 15: That can get over.

2188
01:57:36,439 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 6: Oh, he would have just been Wow. He would have

2189
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,159
been such a peach to work with you. When Brian

2190
01:57:41,479 --> 01:57:43,079
Wert's hands on a script or something, you know, it

2191
01:57:43,079 --> 01:57:46,239
would have been just great. I can't imagine why they

2192
01:57:46,239 --> 01:57:51,520
didn't call him. Maybe it was that perspective, or maybe

2193
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:54,119
it was this. Maybe it was in the shoot interview

2194
01:57:54,159 --> 01:57:57,600
he first did with RF video shortly after leaving WWFN

2195
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,159
in nineteen ninety seven. This is early in nineteen ninety eight.

2196
01:58:00,199 --> 01:58:02,520
He's doing this, and he's flirting with the idea of

2197
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:06,159
going to WCW and talking about playing both sides off

2198
01:58:06,239 --> 01:58:08,560
of each other, and he would soften this story in

2199
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,920
future shoots and kind of anonymize who it was Boss

2200
01:58:12,079 --> 01:58:14,760
that he pictured conquering when he got to the top

2201
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:18,079
of one of his famous bleacher runs as parker board workout.

2202
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:20,760
Let's take a listen to this, and then you tell

2203
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:24,920
me why after this underwhelming appearance in twenty twelve, maybe

2204
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:29,279
Sid's phone didn't ring with the two oh three area code.

2205
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:33,119
Speaker 21: I wake up every morning morning Monday through Friday at

2206
01:58:33,159 --> 01:58:36,399
four o'clock and at twoes to five, I'm working out

2207
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,279
my first workout. Then from there I take a shower,

2208
01:58:39,479 --> 01:58:41,600
I go to my second workout and then I run

2209
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:45,159
bleachers at nine thirty when I top moth foot touches

2210
01:58:45,159 --> 01:58:48,159
at the top of that bleacher. Every time, that's Vince

2211
01:58:49,039 --> 01:58:50,079
in one of these days.

2212
01:58:51,159 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 19: The same thing about is I'll outlive Vince, and I'll

2213
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:59,159
outlive I will rustle longer than his ring too, so

2214
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:01,279
I'll have the last word.

2215
01:59:01,359 --> 01:59:03,119
Speaker 21: Either he worked for him again one day and he

2216
01:59:03,199 --> 01:59:06,039
has to bow to me or give in to me,

2217
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:09,239
or I'll be working working for the other company just

2218
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:11,720
you know, should more fucking shit on me.

2219
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:15,960
Speaker 2: Then's any response to that? Well, you know the thing

2220
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,119
about Sid is, you know he has been He's an

2221
01:59:18,119 --> 01:59:21,399
exceptional talent. He certainly has had, you know, a lot

2222
01:59:21,439 --> 01:59:23,760
of successes here in the w W. We're proud of

2223
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,039
all the accomplishment accomplishments that he's had. He's may have

2224
01:59:26,079 --> 01:59:30,840
been in WrestleMania twice. He has provided significant uh entertainment

2225
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:33,920
factors regarding the legacy of Monday Night Raw and the

2226
01:59:34,119 --> 01:59:37,159
history of the w B as a whole. And really,

2227
01:59:37,479 --> 01:59:40,359
when it comes down to it, we see you know,

2228
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:44,960
Sid as as a legend as somebody who who who

2229
01:59:45,119 --> 01:59:50,159
has who has provided us with years worth of of

2230
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:57,720
entertaining minutia and uh, and you know, when it comes

2231
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,399
down to it, he just can't cut the mustard.

2232
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:04,319
Speaker 6: He said that he was going to outlive you, and

2233
02:00:04,439 --> 02:00:06,880
that was the solace he told me. The thing about

2234
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:09,439
that is, you know, sid any update, any update on

2235
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:13,720
that front. Then as entertainer, you know said at his course,

2236
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:18,680
an entertainer, And what he does is he provides entertainment. Now,

2237
02:00:19,359 --> 02:00:22,479
if we know something about entertainment, is that entertainment it's

2238
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:27,600
not real. Entertainment is something that is created to provide

2239
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:33,119
some sort of emotional response. So what he does is

2240
02:00:33,159 --> 02:00:38,840
he entertains. He does not actually exist. So how can

2241
02:00:39,439 --> 02:00:45,479
somebody who doesn't exist outlive? Vincetick man, I'll tell you what.

2242
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:52,159
I'll tell you what tell me what. I can guarantee

2243
02:00:52,199 --> 02:00:55,199
you that I will put him in the grave before

2244
02:00:56,520 --> 02:00:58,239
I even remotely begin to die.

2245
02:01:00,279 --> 02:01:01,960
Speaker 2: H What happened all that?

2246
02:01:02,159 --> 02:01:02,279
Speaker 11: Uh?

2247
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:06,680
Speaker 6: All those kind words at the beginning, that that olive

2248
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:10,000
branch there, all those nice things you said.

2249
02:01:10,279 --> 02:01:12,279
Speaker 2: I don't recall saying nice things. I said facts.

2250
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:18,119
Speaker 22: True.

2251
02:01:18,119 --> 02:01:19,880
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything that was embellished. I didn't say

2252
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:22,760
anything that was that was nice. I simply stated facts

2253
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,000
that he was an entertainer, but he worked for the

2254
02:01:25,159 --> 02:01:27,359
w he had. He had monumental moments. We have things

2255
02:01:27,359 --> 02:01:32,439
that we remember. I didn't say anything that that was nice.

2256
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:36,880
I dictated facts. How do you see? How do you

2257
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:38,359
How can you be so confident? I mean, you're a

2258
02:01:38,399 --> 02:01:41,079
lot older than he is that you're not going to

2259
02:01:41,119 --> 02:01:46,159
go to the grave first, because, like I said, I'll

2260
02:01:46,239 --> 02:01:53,039
put him there if I have to. Nobody out lives

2261
02:01:53,079 --> 02:02:05,079
into man. Nobody. Wow, he said.

2262
02:02:05,079 --> 02:02:07,079
Speaker 6: When he runs to the top of those bleachers at

2263
02:02:07,079 --> 02:02:09,880
the high school and Marion or wherever and he steps

2264
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:12,680
on that top rung, he feels like he's stepping on you.

2265
02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:20,439
Any response to that, Well, let's see him try to

2266
02:02:20,479 --> 02:02:24,399
step on me for real, and again we'll see what happens.

2267
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:28,479
If I'm at the top of the bleachers and he

2268
02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:32,319
comes to step on me, I'm gonna throw him off

2269
02:02:32,359 --> 02:02:32,960
the bleachers.

2270
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:41,079
Speaker 2: It's so basic.

2271
02:02:41,199 --> 02:02:46,119
Speaker 6: I'm yeah, I'm gonna throw him off the bleachers. It's

2272
02:02:46,159 --> 02:02:48,479
like he just falls, like he gets hurt, but it's

2273
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:56,079
not like a not dramatical exactly. It's funny that it

2274
02:02:56,159 --> 02:02:57,920
said hiring a hit man to take you out with

2275
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:00,279
a bullet to the temple. He hires someone to shove

2276
02:03:00,359 --> 02:03:02,279
you down and you hurt your wrist, and that's it.

2277
02:03:03,319 --> 02:03:07,600
Speaker 2: I imagine Vince lying on the bleachers. You're lying there

2278
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:10,000
waiting for Sid to come up. Gohead, step on me,

2279
02:03:10,079 --> 02:03:15,479
pill nobody such a tough guy. Step on me, Step

2280
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:15,800
on me.

2281
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:17,279
Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question, Vince. Did he do

2282
02:03:17,399 --> 02:03:18,920
the right thing by phrasing it that way?

2283
02:03:20,279 --> 02:03:23,359
Speaker 2: Did he do the right thing? I mean, let me

2284
02:03:23,399 --> 02:03:24,920
ask you this is it'd ever done the right thing?

2285
02:03:25,359 --> 02:03:30,319
Right now? You tell me that he has, I'll show

2286
02:03:30,319 --> 02:03:31,359
you ways that he hasn't.

2287
02:03:32,039 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 6: He was holding out for a day like when, like

2288
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:35,960
he said, when you would have to come kiss his ass,

2289
02:03:37,119 --> 02:03:39,119
you have to come beg him to get involved.

2290
02:03:44,039 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 2: No, I've never had to beg right, I never will

2291
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:57,159
beg I get pussy just by looking at a woman,

2292
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:04,399
all right. I see what I want and I get it.

2293
02:04:06,039 --> 02:04:10,039
I don't beg for it. I don't need to, because

2294
02:04:10,079 --> 02:04:13,119
I get what I want, and when I'm done wanting it,

2295
02:04:14,119 --> 02:04:18,560
I throw it away. And I was done wanting Sid

2296
02:04:19,479 --> 02:04:26,439
a long time ago. And it's not my fault that

2297
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:30,319
that's been the dominant narrative in his own mind ever

2298
02:04:30,359 --> 02:04:34,000
since I let him go. It's funny how the people

2299
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:38,239
who you throw away always seem to think that we're

2300
02:04:38,279 --> 02:04:40,359
going to need them again out of a boomerang effect,

2301
02:04:40,399 --> 02:04:46,680
isn't it. Pal, I like to watch Sid Sometimes I

2302
02:04:47,319 --> 02:04:51,199
will admit I've had cameras inserted into his house because

2303
02:04:51,199 --> 02:04:54,039
I like to watch him. I like to see how

2304
02:04:54,079 --> 02:04:56,520
he moves. So I to see how he wanders about

2305
02:04:56,560 --> 02:05:00,479
his house, because I know what a discol load. Sure,

2306
02:05:02,039 --> 02:05:04,399
what do you know? Because you know what? Go ahead,

2307
02:05:06,439 --> 02:05:10,239
go ahead, finish some flot only was hanging mm hmm,

2308
02:05:12,479 --> 02:05:23,560
because I know what. Because I know all the different

2309
02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:27,239
places in his house where I could sneak up on him,

2310
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:36,119
and all the nooks and crannies. I could kill him

2311
02:05:36,119 --> 02:05:48,079
before he even knew he was in his house. Let

2312
02:05:48,079 --> 02:05:51,319
me ask your pal, have you ever heard of roundup?

2313
02:05:54,119 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

2314
02:05:58,479 --> 02:06:03,000
Speaker 6: So that be a word to the wise. Do not

2315
02:06:03,199 --> 02:06:07,079
go on shooting interviews. Yeah, and say you're gonna outlive

2316
02:06:07,119 --> 02:06:09,680
Vince McMahon. That's how you're gonna win. Last person I

2317
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:12,760
heard say that Terry funk in the grave. Yeah, I

2318
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:15,520
bet Stuhart said that. I bet Fritz van Eric said that,

2319
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:20,600
I bet verne Ganja said that I bet a million people.

2320
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:23,199
I bet Jim Helwig said that, I bet Bruno. Sim

2321
02:06:23,279 --> 02:06:28,479
Martino said that Superstar buy Graham. You don't bet against

2322
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:31,000
Satan get in the fucking grand ground.

2323
02:06:31,319 --> 02:06:37,039
Speaker 2: All right, you don't bet against Satan. I'll never fucking

2324
02:06:37,079 --> 02:06:39,800
say I'll outlive in sick Man. Fuck No, no, nope,

2325
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:43,760
got a Why would you want to track that? Juju?

2326
02:06:44,199 --> 02:06:44,279
Speaker 10: Ye?

2327
02:06:44,399 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 2: That is just a horrible situation being Sid for you what,

2328
02:06:49,079 --> 02:06:54,479
I won't outlive VI sick Man? How about that? Just

2329
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:56,560
so money? That's what it came down to for Sid.

2330
02:06:57,079 --> 02:07:00,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, after this, not a really a peep

2331
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:03,199
for years on the indie scene, doesn't work any matches

2332
02:07:03,239 --> 02:07:07,520
for the next several years. He resurfaces in twenty seventeen, however,

2333
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:12,920
at a tenth anniversary super show in Ottawa for Great

2334
02:07:13,119 --> 02:07:16,720
North Wrestling, where he faces and defeats a wrestler by

2335
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:19,680
the name of Paul Rosenberg. Now this is significant because

2336
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:21,479
Paul Rosenberg in his sidekick. I don't know a lot

2337
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:24,279
about the circuit at that time, but they were doing it.

2338
02:07:24,359 --> 02:07:27,079
Being twenty seventeen, a Trump gimmick where a guy would

2339
02:07:27,079 --> 02:07:28,560
bring a Trump flag out and get a ton of

2340
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:31,399
heat in Canada for it, and Sid found himself in

2341
02:07:31,439 --> 02:07:33,760
the crosshairs of the politics of the moment. Oh boy,

2342
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:36,359
and he's out there beating up on the Trump guy

2343
02:07:36,399 --> 02:07:40,920
and getting pops in twenty seventeen in Canada, and god

2344
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:44,399
damn it. You know we're going to find out we are.

2345
02:07:44,439 --> 02:07:46,079
We're going to find out how much of a problem

2346
02:07:46,720 --> 02:07:50,960
Donald Trump is for w's for Sid? Okay, oh boy,

2347
02:07:51,159 --> 02:07:55,760
because something goes off in his mind. That's a future

2348
02:07:56,920 --> 02:08:00,359
let's just say claim he can stake as as a

2349
02:08:00,399 --> 02:08:03,960
reason for new shows, all right, because what's one of

2350
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:06,319
the things Trump Trump does. He comes in and he

2351
02:08:06,399 --> 02:08:09,960
makes in and out of the country travel more difficult,

2352
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:12,560
doesn't he. Of course does that open a vein for

2353
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:14,439
potential excuses for Sid to just not.

2354
02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:15,079
Speaker 10: Know of the flight.

2355
02:08:15,119 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

2356
02:08:17,119 --> 02:08:19,640
Speaker 6: One of the indie promoters that Sid fails to show

2357
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:22,199
up for suddenly takes to Facebook one day and writes,

2358
02:08:22,359 --> 02:08:24,520
which one of you buttholes told Sid that the owner

2359
02:08:24,520 --> 02:08:27,840
of the promotion is a giant Trumpster. Oh I hope

2360
02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:29,880
you're happy he decided to not get in a plane

2361
02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:33,279
for our friends at another wrestling company, so he won't

2362
02:08:33,279 --> 02:08:35,439
be appearing for us either. We are really disappointed but

2363
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:37,399
now we can finally say we are like our friends

2364
02:08:37,479 --> 02:08:39,319
in the other company, and we'll get to what company

2365
02:08:39,399 --> 02:08:39,720
that is.

2366
02:08:40,239 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 2: But it's now.

2367
02:08:42,119 --> 02:08:48,159
Speaker 6: It's now and a new playground for Sid. This article

2368
02:08:48,199 --> 02:08:52,840
here by Roger Girinoff apologies for Not Is It Wrestling, Inc.

2369
02:08:53,439 --> 02:08:57,039
From twenty eighteen, Former WW and WW World Heavyweight Champion

2370
02:08:57,079 --> 02:08:59,840
Sid Vicus canceled an appearance at last night's Excite Wrestling event.

2371
02:09:00,239 --> 02:09:02,680
The promotion noted on Facebook last week that Sid canceled

2372
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:04,680
the booking because the owner of the promotion, Johnny Moose,

2373
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:04,840
is a.

2374
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 2: Donald Trump supporter.

2375
02:09:11,399 --> 02:09:14,479
Speaker 6: Boy Vicious had skipped an I A Double A i

2376
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:19,680
W show last December, claiming he had travel issues due

2377
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:26,760
to Trump's travel man. Excite Wrestling followed suit and had

2378
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,039
a wrestler dress up as Sid and deliver a power

2379
02:09:29,119 --> 02:09:29,840
bomb at the show.

2380
02:09:30,359 --> 02:09:33,319
Speaker 2: I tried, I said, you know, I will go to

2381
02:09:33,399 --> 02:09:35,680
the airport and all of a sudden, our Don Trump

2382
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:41,960
ain't letting Sid travel, right, he said, ceut banned from travel,

2383
02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:51,239
Tump Sid beauty travel.

2384
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:59,239
Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what. One place, one promotion he

2385
02:09:59,399 --> 02:10:02,119
doesn't have travel very far for is a company called

2386
02:10:02,279 --> 02:10:05,960
MCW based not too far from his home. In the

2387
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:08,760
beautiful state of Arkansas. So this is a shot that

2388
02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:12,079
Sid could make by car. And so there's no flight

2389
02:10:12,159 --> 02:10:15,800
issues to cite, no flight issues to be concerned about

2390
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:18,800
or get tripped up on. And it's in this promotion.

2391
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:21,159
We're going to take a look at it. So I

2392
02:10:21,199 --> 02:10:24,720
don't want to paint a picture for you before you

2393
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:28,319
get to see it yourself, or boss, I would suggest

2394
02:10:28,399 --> 02:10:30,479
here in the final leg of our Sid tribute, we

2395
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:33,319
really get that unalloyed Look what it looks like when

2396
02:10:33,399 --> 02:10:35,680
Sid is actually given creative power in the rest of

2397
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:37,960
the Lord, not just to do a one off gimmick

2398
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:39,560
here and there. But we've heard that's been a theme,

2399
02:10:39,680 --> 02:10:42,520
right every so often he'll say in an interview, you know,

2400
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:44,000
I really would have liked to book in the business.

2401
02:10:45,039 --> 02:10:46,800
You know, Bill Wats was going to let me book.

2402
02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:50,760
I created the Colonel Parker character in Harlem Heat and

2403
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:53,239
all that stuff. And he always tried to give us

2404
02:10:53,319 --> 02:10:55,159
this sense that you know, he actually had a mind

2405
02:10:55,199 --> 02:10:57,039
for the wrestling business and could run a promotion and

2406
02:10:58,359 --> 02:11:00,239
could be a booker one day, and one wonder why

2407
02:11:00,279 --> 02:11:03,000
he was never given the opportunity. You know what, Well,

2408
02:11:03,039 --> 02:11:05,399
he was never given the chance to express his ideas

2409
02:11:05,439 --> 02:11:07,680
and what he would do out there. This is a

2410
02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:11,039
glimpse at what we missed out on by not letting

2411
02:11:11,359 --> 02:11:15,000
book a major promotion all those years, as he discusses

2412
02:11:15,039 --> 02:11:17,199
here in a shoot interview with Hannibal, who had heard

2413
02:11:17,239 --> 02:11:19,439
to the Grapevine that there's a very small, low profile

2414
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:22,760
indie near Sid's house, that he had started to develop

2415
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:26,119
a character Sid for the first time since the Lord

2416
02:11:26,199 --> 02:11:33,439
Humongous Day's Bosses not wrestling as Sid, He's wrestling as Israel.

2417
02:11:34,439 --> 02:11:34,600
Speaker 13: Ah.

2418
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:37,079
Speaker 15: I'll tell you what it was is I had this

2419
02:11:37,319 --> 02:11:40,159
idea and what it was is a little bit to

2420
02:11:40,239 --> 02:11:43,119
do with this cilly election, you know, And I used

2421
02:11:43,159 --> 02:11:46,920
that too, But no, it's it was just something i'd

2422
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:49,319
come up with that friend of mine, his name is

2423
02:11:49,439 --> 02:11:52,239
Very Norman. He's a writer, and a guy named Peter Zeil.

2424
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:55,880
There's a thing called briggs Meyer protocols, Like if you had,

2425
02:11:56,039 --> 02:11:57,920
like in Mon's case, you had a bad leg, where

2426
02:11:57,960 --> 02:11:59,920
they could put a chip in your brain and they

2427
02:12:00,039 --> 02:12:01,840
can pretend, you know, not pretend that you would have

2428
02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:04,760
that pain no longer. Well, we were doing something like that,

2429
02:12:04,840 --> 02:12:07,000
and we was having my buddy Berry sending little clips

2430
02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:11,600
to this place at Ocola mcw to show that we

2431
02:12:11,720 --> 02:12:13,239
were trying that and mayn I'm gonna tell you what

2432
02:12:13,319 --> 02:12:14,920
I didn't do, but just a few weeks of it,

2433
02:12:15,279 --> 02:12:18,000
and the people went crazy for it. I never walked

2434
02:12:18,039 --> 02:12:19,840
into the place. I had so much heat and I

2435
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:22,319
was a big time babyface there for the last few years.

2436
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:23,039
Speaker 7: Uh.

2437
02:12:23,199 --> 02:12:25,600
Speaker 15: But I did what it was I said, I did

2438
02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:28,920
the operation. What it was I said, I told the people.

2439
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:30,600
I said, and this is while I'm still a babyface,

2440
02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:32,279
I said, don't wact around so anymore. Is I have

2441
02:12:32,399 --> 02:12:35,039
this operation, and I have this operation. I have to

2442
02:12:35,119 --> 02:12:38,439
take science over faith. That means over God. And I

2443
02:12:38,560 --> 02:12:41,880
was gonna call myself Israel. You know when Israel, you know,

2444
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:43,680
fought with God, had got a bad hip out of

2445
02:12:43,720 --> 02:12:46,439
the deal, remember that, right, Well, I told everybody I

2446
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:49,239
get God the bad hip, you know, just you know.

2447
02:12:49,399 --> 02:12:51,439
Then I took on a look. It started working that

2448
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:54,680
I started taking on Donald Trump personality and I would

2449
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:57,640
take off the hat, my my master, act like Donald

2450
02:12:57,640 --> 02:13:00,319
Trump or talk like that until the you know, some

2451
02:13:00,399 --> 02:13:01,640
of the people to get back in the back of

2452
02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:04,159
the bus, like the Mexican people. There weren't an Americans

2453
02:13:04,199 --> 02:13:07,079
there however, but I would say things like that and

2454
02:13:07,279 --> 02:13:09,319
just you know, I'm the boss, and I bought the

2455
02:13:09,439 --> 02:13:12,119
place and that everybody had game like three more weeks

2456
02:13:12,159 --> 02:13:14,239
and we was gonna shut the doors, and man, I

2457
02:13:14,359 --> 02:13:18,479
had a great time with that character. It's actually one

2458
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:20,640
I would like to see go to the w W.

2459
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:29,680
Speaker 2: Boss. Does that sound ready for prime time? To you?

2460
02:13:31,399 --> 02:13:35,000
Ramblings of a madman? What he really? He really is

2461
02:13:35,159 --> 02:13:39,119
a fucking coop? What is he talking about? I mean, seriously,

2462
02:13:39,239 --> 02:13:41,319
what did you what did you take from that? I

2463
02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:48,880
don't really know, honestly. I mean he he wants to

2464
02:13:50,560 --> 02:13:51,079
is he a nation?

2465
02:13:53,800 --> 02:13:53,920
Speaker 19: Is he?

2466
02:13:54,199 --> 02:13:56,720
Speaker 2: Is he representative of that? Is that what he wants

2467
02:13:56,800 --> 02:14:02,840
to do? I don't he's That's the most I don't

2468
02:14:02,840 --> 02:14:05,640
even know what to call that. It's it's beyond insane,

2469
02:14:07,439 --> 02:14:15,760
it's beyond stupid, it's like beyond offensive. It's just it really,

2470
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:22,760
there is a a there's a category of its own

2471
02:14:23,159 --> 02:14:28,600
that has yet to be invented, and that's where that belongs.

2472
02:14:29,039 --> 02:14:30,840
Would you like to see Israel at action?

2473
02:14:31,319 --> 02:14:31,520
Speaker 7: Oh?

2474
02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:32,640
Speaker 2: Fuck my life?

2475
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:35,319
Speaker 6: You like to see what this looked like? And a

2476
02:14:35,399 --> 02:14:39,920
promotion called shit mcw is sid finally gets the chance

2477
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:44,960
to let his creative juices flow. All right, if you

2478
02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:47,520
want to find it on YouTube. Israel aka Psycho Sid

2479
02:14:47,640 --> 02:14:50,640
Vicious twenty seventeen is the title of the video. And

2480
02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:54,039
here we go, all right, three two one.

2481
02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:59,560
Speaker 1: Play to the graphic nature of this program, view were

2482
02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:01,039
described advised.

2483
02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:14,039
Speaker 2: Look at him? What he lifts the mask? Look at him?

2484
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:20,640
Speaker 6: Look at the intensity. I mean he's walking around like

2485
02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:22,039
an Alzheimer's patient.

2486
02:15:22,800 --> 02:15:23,720
Speaker 2: Really he's waving.

2487
02:15:25,159 --> 02:15:28,399
Speaker 6: Look at the size of the building. It's like a garage.

2488
02:15:28,720 --> 02:15:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, seriously, it's I guess this guy is

2489
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:35,199
the promoter of the owner. I mean he looks like

2490
02:15:35,239 --> 02:15:39,279
a pervert. Sid has one on his shoulders. He's got

2491
02:15:39,479 --> 02:15:43,479
these fucking like uh shoulder pads like pad for what

2492
02:15:44,319 --> 02:15:48,399
no reason? Because he's Israel. Look at that woman in

2493
02:15:48,479 --> 02:15:48,760
the back.

2494
02:15:50,439 --> 02:15:52,479
Speaker 6: So the promoter is saying, look, let's put this behind us.

2495
02:15:52,520 --> 02:15:57,600
Our differences and do you think you've seen Sid cut

2496
02:15:57,600 --> 02:15:58,560
great promos before?

2497
02:15:58,640 --> 02:15:58,920
Speaker 2: Boss?

2498
02:15:59,279 --> 02:16:01,199
Speaker 6: Oh boy, he's the people he was saying, were eating

2499
02:16:01,239 --> 02:16:04,880
it up. By the way, how did him stand there?

2500
02:16:05,760 --> 02:16:06,000
Speaker 2: Yep?

2501
02:16:06,720 --> 02:16:07,520
Speaker 8: On our side.

2502
02:16:08,920 --> 02:16:12,239
Speaker 2: We need him on our side. These people are like

2503
02:16:12,479 --> 02:16:15,039
they're what are there like seventy five people there?

2504
02:16:15,199 --> 02:16:19,600
Speaker 6: Probably twenty seriously, maybe like thirty forty people.

2505
02:16:23,319 --> 02:16:26,199
Speaker 2: Is that the booker back there on the desk. I

2506
02:16:26,239 --> 02:16:26,479
don't know.

2507
02:16:29,399 --> 02:16:30,520
Speaker 23: Let's have started with.

2508
02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:35,639
Speaker 6: Let's come to what are you sid? What do you

2509
02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:38,799
think Let's start over again with your football shoulder pats on?

2510
02:16:39,079 --> 02:16:39,319
Speaker 11: I know.

2511
02:16:46,079 --> 02:16:51,479
Speaker 19: You white last it was buzz gil, No, buzz, don't

2512
02:16:51,520 --> 02:16:52,760
coming back to last week.

2513
02:16:53,360 --> 02:16:56,000
Speaker 2: It's all men to doing this. I'll want to turn

2514
02:16:56,079 --> 02:16:56,879
against you people.

2515
02:16:57,360 --> 02:16:58,479
Speaker 10: You don't mean too much.

2516
02:17:01,639 --> 02:17:02,000
Speaker 18: Anyway.

2517
02:17:02,040 --> 02:17:06,319
Speaker 23: I no, guys, really, Oh.

2518
02:17:06,280 --> 02:17:11,239
Speaker 2: I just go home and get a haircut. Excuse me,

2519
02:17:12,760 --> 02:17:15,239
get your haircut and do what? Come back and be

2520
02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:22,520
popular again? Oh my god again? Would you all accept

2521
02:17:22,559 --> 02:17:23,399
my friendship again?

2522
02:17:24,479 --> 02:17:36,360
Speaker 23: I'm sorry, I mean, guys, I mean, I don't know what.

2523
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:49,159
Speaker 2: Is he doing. I'm sorry he's apologizing, shaking hands with

2524
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:56,440
the promoter so much ringside here. I'm sorry, you ass

2525
02:17:56,520 --> 02:17:59,399
me to the guy on the desk, he is like

2526
02:17:59,440 --> 02:18:01,440
he's apologized him, and the guy doesn't forgive a ship.

2527
02:18:02,239 --> 02:18:05,559
He's like, why am I here? He's still talking, said,

2528
02:18:05,639 --> 02:18:18,239
still talking Devil's rejects. He has football shoulder pads on

2529
02:18:18,319 --> 02:18:25,680
the whole time. Yeah, and like basically like a you know,

2530
02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:31,760
like uh uh mechanic coveralls with the knacks back. God yea,

2531
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:39,440
and he puts on the ever. This is the people.

2532
02:18:41,360 --> 02:18:45,520
It wasn't even a fucking axe handle. He's uh he

2533
02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:49,280
like he did. I don't even know what you'd call it.

2534
02:18:49,440 --> 02:18:52,680
Look at the crowd. Oh my god. This there's tables

2535
02:18:52,760 --> 02:18:57,319
with drinks and ship like. This is absolutely atrocious.

2536
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:04,159
Speaker 6: He's lumbering around pretending to attack this old man promoter.

2537
02:19:04,440 --> 02:19:07,280
Speaker 2: And the old man fucking pretending to sell no one.

2538
02:19:07,440 --> 02:19:10,040
Speaker 6: The crowds just sitting there. I mean some people are screaming,

2539
02:19:10,239 --> 02:19:11,360
but they're just sitting there.

2540
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:19,879
Speaker 2: Some guy came down with a hat and a chair

2541
02:19:20,239 --> 02:19:23,879
or he tell them to sit. I was in a

2542
02:19:23,879 --> 02:19:26,760
baseball bat. Who is that clown? I'm not sure his name.

2543
02:19:27,559 --> 02:19:28,559
It might be Buzzkill.

2544
02:19:30,520 --> 02:19:57,680
Speaker 8: And wait a minute, it's not Joe, you understand.

2545
02:20:02,159 --> 02:20:06,000
Speaker 2: Look at him, I mean he looks like a complete

2546
02:20:06,399 --> 02:20:13,559
dufus football shoulder pads on yeah.

2547
02:20:15,559 --> 02:20:18,879
Speaker 16: Both first he probably also a.

2548
02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:20,559
Speaker 8: First or something.

2549
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:36,399
Speaker 2: Piscipalion is already said no reaction. One girl screating, but

2550
02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:38,639
most people are looking at him. The one person screaming

2551
02:20:38,680 --> 02:20:52,959
at him, but I, oh my god, he.

2552
02:20:53,079 --> 02:20:54,920
Speaker 23: Said, I'm looking.

2553
02:21:02,479 --> 02:21:10,719
Speaker 14: Damn bomb you white fresh trails.

2554
02:21:16,239 --> 02:21:17,239
Speaker 23: I said this last.

2555
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:19,879
Speaker 16: I mean, I.

2556
02:21:24,719 --> 02:21:29,680
Speaker 6: Okay, it's just lumbering around ringside.

2557
02:21:29,879 --> 02:21:33,559
Speaker 2: I mean he's just like a mic has a cord. Oh,

2558
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:39,879
here comes a guy climbing up a ladder. Look at it. Yeah,

2559
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:49,719
he's communicating with the Is that it? That's that I'll

2560
02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:51,120
look at there. Go to the go to the kitchen,

2561
02:21:51,200 --> 02:22:01,680
get some food. What are they serving? I want to know. Okay,

2562
02:22:02,120 --> 02:22:05,600
let's never watch that again. I mean, just paint the

2563
02:22:05,639 --> 02:22:09,360
picture for people, I mean place. If it's just he's

2564
02:22:09,440 --> 02:22:12,280
just speaking gibberish, you can't really understand what he's fucking

2565
02:22:12,319 --> 02:22:14,479
said Nucus of the audio. You really, even if you

2566
02:22:14,639 --> 02:22:18,040
I heard everyone said it, it just doesn't make sense.

2567
02:22:18,159 --> 02:22:21,559
Like he just he's just speaking words, and you know,

2568
02:22:21,639 --> 02:22:23,360
and he just stands there like he I don't know,

2569
02:22:23,479 --> 02:22:26,879
I don't know what was attempted to be accomplished. Just there,

2570
02:22:27,319 --> 02:22:29,479
you know, he just stands there and he speaks and

2571
02:22:29,559 --> 02:22:31,879
he he kind of like, you know, he moves. He

2572
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:36,879
has a very very limited map, all right, like his

2573
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:44,000
his road. It's a basic kind of you know, right angle. Essentially,

2574
02:22:44,120 --> 02:22:46,959
he goes from the desk of the ring and then

2575
02:22:47,000 --> 02:22:49,600
he comes back down the side to kind of where

2576
02:22:49,639 --> 02:22:51,719
the I guess where the entrance is, and then back

2577
02:22:51,760 --> 02:22:53,440
and forth, like he doesn't walk around the ring and

2578
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:55,159
like go to everybody. He just kind of stays in

2579
02:22:55,239 --> 02:23:03,879
this warm little corner. He's just walking back to notice that, Well,

2580
02:23:03,879 --> 02:23:07,879
it's because the mic has a cord. He's using a cord. Yeah,

2581
02:23:08,000 --> 02:23:09,440
I guess that's it. I mean you think that that

2582
02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:11,000
in this date and age, you have a cord that

2583
02:23:11,040 --> 02:23:13,959
could run, you know, more than ten feet.

2584
02:23:14,120 --> 02:23:16,760
Speaker 6: Again, I want you to picture like being all right,

2585
02:23:16,920 --> 02:23:19,479
seventeen and you're gonna go trick or treating, right, and

2586
02:23:19,559 --> 02:23:22,159
you throw a costume together, you know, because you're way

2587
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:24,559
too old, and you cover yourself head to toe, long

2588
02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:28,040
sleeve black shirt with black gloves, black like you're wearing.

2589
02:23:28,120 --> 02:23:29,920
Speaker 2: You wear black coveralls, is what you're doing.

2590
02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:33,360
Speaker 6: And then he puts NFL shoulder pads on and they

2591
02:23:33,399 --> 02:23:36,159
look like they're like a youth small. Yeah, they're like

2592
02:23:36,280 --> 02:23:38,719
why definitely not his side there they do? You know,

2593
02:23:38,840 --> 02:23:40,879
Usually you put shoulder pads on and you can see

2594
02:23:40,920 --> 02:23:45,079
that they enhance the shoulders and these do not. And

2595
02:23:45,360 --> 02:23:49,799
he's got the Jason mask on, a hockey mask, and

2596
02:23:49,879 --> 02:23:51,760
he's just standing there and he's a big.

2597
02:23:51,879 --> 02:23:55,520
Speaker 2: Oh fu a big. He's a big, He's a big lug.

2598
02:23:55,760 --> 02:23:57,959
It's not scary at all. And when he tries it,

2599
02:23:58,120 --> 02:24:01,360
and again he doesn't. He doesn't even fucking I mean,

2600
02:24:01,479 --> 02:24:05,079
I you know, he doesn't even He just kind of

2601
02:24:05,120 --> 02:24:07,920
talks like Sid. He doesn't. He doesn't, you know, he

2602
02:24:07,959 --> 02:24:14,239
doesn't like actually talk like a nation or or a

2603
02:24:14,399 --> 02:24:16,760
you know. I mean, I'm looking at the description here

2604
02:24:16,840 --> 02:24:21,319
under the YouTube video says he who wrestles with God. Yes,

2605
02:24:21,399 --> 02:24:25,600
that's Israel, which like he just like Sid.

2606
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:29,440
Speaker 6: Who wrestles with God, but talks like Sid Udy from

2607
02:24:29,479 --> 02:24:35,479
here exactly, And yeah, he thinks this is ww ready

2608
02:24:35,639 --> 02:24:38,399
And now that you watch that, Okay, now that you

2609
02:24:38,479 --> 02:24:43,840
have just listen back to this and just realize that's

2610
02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:44,639
what he's talking about.

2611
02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:47,920
Speaker 15: I'll tell you what it was is I had this idea,

2612
02:24:48,600 --> 02:24:50,479
and what it was is a little bit to do

2613
02:24:50,600 --> 02:24:53,680
with this cilly election, you know, and I use that too,

2614
02:24:53,799 --> 02:24:57,559
but no, it's it was just something i'd come up

2615
02:24:57,639 --> 02:25:00,000
with that friend of mine. His being is very normal

2616
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,440
when he's a writer and a guy named Peter Zel.

2617
02:25:02,760 --> 02:25:06,079
There's a thing called briggs Meyer protocols. Like if you had,

2618
02:25:06,239 --> 02:25:08,120
like in my case, you had a bad leg where

2619
02:25:08,120 --> 02:25:10,120
they can put a chip in your brain and they

2620
02:25:10,200 --> 02:25:12,040
can pretend, you know, not pretend that you would have

2621
02:25:12,159 --> 02:25:14,959
that pain no longer. Well, we were doing something like that,

2622
02:25:15,040 --> 02:25:17,200
and we was having my buddy Berry sending little clips

2623
02:25:17,799 --> 02:25:21,799
to this place at Ocola mcw to show that we

2624
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:23,440
were trying that. And mayn I'm gonna tell you what

2625
02:25:23,520 --> 02:25:25,079
I didn't do but just a few weeks of it,

2626
02:25:25,479 --> 02:25:28,200
and then people went crazy for it. I never walked

2627
02:25:28,239 --> 02:25:30,000
into the place. I had so much heat, and I

2628
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:32,520
got a big time babyface there for the last few years.

2629
02:25:33,079 --> 02:25:34,879
Speaker 7: Uh, But I did what it was.

2630
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:38,479
Speaker 15: I said, I did the operation. What it was I said,

2631
02:25:38,520 --> 02:25:40,000
I told the people. I said, And this is while

2632
02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:41,799
I'm still a baby face, I said, don't wact around

2633
02:25:41,799 --> 02:25:43,959
so anymore. Is I have this operation, and I have

2634
02:25:44,079 --> 02:25:47,239
this operation, I'd have to take science over faith. That

2635
02:25:47,360 --> 02:25:50,360
means over God. And I was gonna call myself Israel.

2636
02:25:50,879 --> 02:25:52,920
You know when Israel, you know, fought with God, he

2637
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:55,879
got a bad hip out of the deal, remember that, Yeah, right, Well,

2638
02:25:55,920 --> 02:25:58,360
I told everybody I get God the bad hip, you know,

2639
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:01,559
just you know, then not took on it started working,

2640
02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:04,840
that started taking on Donald Trump personality, and I would

2641
02:26:04,879 --> 02:26:07,840
take off the hat, my my masters, act like Donald

2642
02:26:07,840 --> 02:26:10,600
Trump or talk like that until you know, some of

2643
02:26:10,639 --> 02:26:12,120
the people to get back in the back of the bus,

2644
02:26:12,239 --> 02:26:15,719
like the Mexican people. They weren't even there, however, but

2645
02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:17,760
I would say things like that, and just you know,

2646
02:26:17,799 --> 02:26:20,120
I'm the boss, and I bought the place, and that

2647
02:26:20,239 --> 02:26:22,479
everybody had that game like three more weeks and we

2648
02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:24,760
was gonna shut the doors. And man, I had a

2649
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:29,239
great time with that character. It's actually one I would

2650
02:26:29,360 --> 02:26:31,479
like to see. Go to the WWE.

2651
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:48,399
Speaker 1: Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys

2652
02:26:48,559 --> 02:27:06,600
need their candy. It's the Lampsed Fan. He's a lapsed

2653
02:27:06,639 --> 02:27:11,120
fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Jo.

2654
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:13,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad he had fun with it. I

2655
02:27:13,440 --> 02:27:20,760
guess I that was a character. I mean, he just

2656
02:27:20,799 --> 02:27:21,520
stood there.

2657
02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:26,040
Speaker 6: With none of the personality. He had his sid and

2658
02:27:27,239 --> 02:27:33,719
right his face is stone faced, monotone, and he's walking

2659
02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:36,440
around and he's pivoting at the hip and looking at

2660
02:27:36,479 --> 02:27:39,840
the people, and he's got a kid's shoulder pads on

2661
02:27:39,959 --> 02:27:41,799
the whole time, and.

2662
02:27:42,280 --> 02:27:46,920
Speaker 2: He's just I mean, listen, the only heat that was

2663
02:27:47,000 --> 02:27:51,879
in that building was coming from the kitchen. And the

2664
02:27:51,959 --> 02:27:55,000
hush puppies. They were bringing out exactly the locals on

2665
02:27:55,079 --> 02:27:57,920
a Friday night, right, and he had nothing to do

2666
02:27:58,920 --> 02:28:01,719
with sid Uh. You know, at the end of all this,

2667
02:28:02,159 --> 02:28:09,000
my excuse me, you want to be disrespectful the nation of.

2668
02:28:12,680 --> 02:28:12,840
Speaker 7: You know.

2669
02:28:13,920 --> 02:28:15,799
Speaker 6: I just can't believe we lost out on this guy

2670
02:28:15,920 --> 02:28:18,360
getting a chance to let his creative juices flow in

2671
02:28:18,440 --> 02:28:20,680
the big leagues. I don't know how this guy didn't

2672
02:28:20,680 --> 02:28:22,399
earn a spot on a creative team somewhere.

2673
02:28:22,719 --> 02:28:24,680
Speaker 2: I want to tell you something, Vince, I got an idea.

2674
02:28:25,159 --> 02:28:27,520
No way, yeah, all right, I'm gonna hit mute. Said,

2675
02:28:28,520 --> 02:28:29,000
you go ahead.

2676
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:29,600
Speaker 15: You just let me know.

2677
02:28:29,680 --> 02:28:34,239
Speaker 2: Tell me what your idea is. I want to be

2678
02:28:34,319 --> 02:28:42,440
a people. Excuse me, I want to be a people. Well,

2679
02:28:43,319 --> 02:28:46,120
you are a person, said, you're a person? You are

2680
02:28:46,280 --> 02:28:51,120
of people? No, I want to be a people. I

2681
02:28:51,239 --> 02:28:59,360
want to be Israel. I see, And what does this

2682
02:28:59,479 --> 02:29:04,399
have to do with me? That's what you understand is

2683
02:29:06,520 --> 02:29:09,840
now I'm coming back to the w w E. That's

2684
02:29:09,879 --> 02:29:13,879
a new persona. I got a new character in mind.

2685
02:29:15,040 --> 02:29:17,600
I want to base it on the wacky things going

2686
02:29:17,600 --> 02:29:22,680
on the election, the wacky things so many. All right,

2687
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:24,760
are you gonna dress up like Trump or something. Is

2688
02:29:24,799 --> 02:29:27,079
that the me? Are you going to be like Sid Trumps?

2689
02:29:27,360 --> 02:29:29,159
What's the look? You're coming out with a big bouffont

2690
02:29:29,239 --> 02:29:33,040
blonde bof Donald Donald Vicious? What's the look? Pal? Help me?

2691
02:29:33,200 --> 02:29:37,760
Help me see it? So I want you imagine me

2692
02:29:37,840 --> 02:29:43,719
all dressed in black, Okay, like the Undertaker. No, no,

2693
02:29:44,040 --> 02:29:52,319
like the Undertaker, like Israel. Okay. Now I want you

2694
02:29:52,360 --> 02:29:58,520
to understand, I'm wearing a black coverall, I'm wearing black gloves,

2695
02:30:01,239 --> 02:30:06,879
and then I'm wearing shoulder pads. You were like football pads, Pala,

2696
02:30:07,280 --> 02:30:09,879
I mean like you mean like women's shoulder like under

2697
02:30:09,920 --> 02:30:11,440
the shirt right in the eighties, like under the shirt

2698
02:30:11,440 --> 02:30:15,600
you can wear your shoulder pads and mm hmm okay,

2699
02:30:15,719 --> 02:30:20,040
you're talking about NFL football pads. I suppose those under

2700
02:30:20,079 --> 02:30:21,840
a shirt would add some bulk. I know it's hard

2701
02:30:21,840 --> 02:30:24,520
for you to put on bulk, you know, I you

2702
02:30:24,600 --> 02:30:26,600
know you are a bulky guy. But I can understand,

2703
02:30:26,639 --> 02:30:28,760
you know, you try to create a new image. Sure

2704
02:30:28,760 --> 02:30:31,399
you wear that under the shirt, under the cover all shirt.

2705
02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:38,239
That can create a no no, no, no, what no

2706
02:30:38,879 --> 02:30:44,120
under the shirt or to where the where the pads going?

2707
02:30:44,239 --> 02:30:57,479
Pal on top my shoulder pads fully exposed. What is that?

2708
02:30:57,719 --> 02:31:06,280
I mean, what's the point of that? Israel is so

2709
02:31:06,520 --> 02:31:09,719
putting putting the pads on on over the outside of

2710
02:31:09,799 --> 02:31:22,639
the shirt. Is Israel? I am reel, Israel rules the world. Listen,

2711
02:31:22,719 --> 02:31:27,840
I'll tell you what. Why don't Yeah, why don't we?

2712
02:31:29,600 --> 02:31:31,559
This is great? I love this. I think this is

2713
02:31:31,760 --> 02:31:33,520
We're gonna fast track this. Why don't you do me

2714
02:31:33,559 --> 02:31:37,399
a favor. You book a flight up here and we're

2715
02:31:37,440 --> 02:31:42,479
gonna right, We're gonna make sure that this gets right

2716
02:31:42,559 --> 02:31:47,319
on television, and you know, do me a favor. Call

2717
02:31:47,399 --> 02:31:49,760
me when you get here and I'll make sure that

2718
02:31:50,239 --> 02:31:54,440
I'm in town for this. Can we make sure we

2719
02:31:54,559 --> 02:31:56,840
get like videotape of this ship because I need to

2720
02:31:56,840 --> 02:31:59,399
put this on YouTube. Tom all right, I'm gonna put

2721
02:31:59,440 --> 02:32:05,479
this fucking shit YouTube. Israel psycho, Israel, one piece of ship.

2722
02:32:05,959 --> 02:32:08,159
You know, I'm hearing everything you're saying. On the phone.

2723
02:32:09,040 --> 02:32:13,559
What what what?

2724
02:32:13,840 --> 02:32:13,879
Speaker 19: No?

2725
02:32:13,879 --> 02:32:19,239
Speaker 2: I was talking about something. I was talking about something else, Bell, Yeah,

2726
02:32:19,360 --> 02:32:21,920
I was talking about No. No, I'm sorry. We get

2727
02:32:22,319 --> 02:32:24,600
we have a show in Israel and there's a psycho

2728
02:32:25,440 --> 02:32:27,399
who's trying to book the you know, it's a whole everything,

2729
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:32,840
not you Israel, the the the the gimmick. This, this

2730
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:39,520
is not a gimmick. This is the new sid Ah,

2731
02:32:40,280 --> 02:32:52,920
Damn Israel here Israel? All right? Well, oh man, if

2732
02:32:52,959 --> 02:32:57,399
Sid could have just been a booker, the whole world

2733
02:32:57,399 --> 02:33:00,319
will be a different place. I'll tell you, a world

2734
02:33:00,360 --> 02:33:04,360
of nations and peoples, of all the things it was

2735
02:33:07,159 --> 02:33:11,639
it was not real. Okay, is real? That's the one

2736
02:33:11,680 --> 02:33:17,799
thing it wasn't. Damn right, is real? No is fake? Terrible?

2737
02:33:18,719 --> 02:33:25,719
Speaker 6: That's It's selful that it came down to that for Sid.

2738
02:33:26,079 --> 02:33:31,280
You know, it's such a reality. But we're missing the

2739
02:33:31,360 --> 02:33:34,360
silver tuna here. Oh God, we're going to talk about

2740
02:33:34,399 --> 02:33:36,719
this part of Sid's life. If we're going to talk

2741
02:33:36,760 --> 02:33:42,239
about the pattern of behavior that begins to emerge in

2742
02:33:42,399 --> 02:33:46,280
the world class excuse making. He starts to make, he

2743
02:33:46,360 --> 02:33:52,120
starts to compose for himself. We can't not talk about

2744
02:33:52,159 --> 02:33:54,719
the time that he now showed an event for a

2745
02:33:54,879 --> 02:33:58,920
i W in Illinois for promoter John Thorne, who had

2746
02:33:58,959 --> 02:34:03,760
his own podcast at the time and who started in

2747
02:34:03,760 --> 02:34:05,760
one episode of the podcast kind of dejected his co

2748
02:34:05,840 --> 02:34:08,360
hosts giving him a hard time. So he's on suicide

2749
02:34:08,399 --> 02:34:12,079
watch because much like the aforementioned pro Wrestling Syndicate promoter

2750
02:34:12,319 --> 02:34:16,280
a lot riding on the idea that an appearance from

2751
02:34:16,319 --> 02:34:18,520
Sid himself is quite rare on the US and D's

2752
02:34:19,159 --> 02:34:21,879
back in that day and you can come here and

2753
02:34:21,959 --> 02:34:24,360
come to this AIW show. I believe it's absolute intense

2754
02:34:24,399 --> 02:34:26,159
wrestling and lay eyes on Sid.

2755
02:34:26,360 --> 02:34:26,920
Speaker 2: He'll be here.

2756
02:34:27,680 --> 02:34:31,479
Speaker 6: Promotion promotional material is out. People are counting on him.

2757
02:34:32,719 --> 02:34:35,799
He's the draw. But as they go to record the podcast,

2758
02:34:35,879 --> 02:34:37,440
I believe a couple days before the show was to

2759
02:34:37,440 --> 02:34:40,559
happen that weekend, the voter John Thorne lets us know

2760
02:34:40,639 --> 02:34:41,799
that in fact, Sid didn't.

2761
02:34:41,559 --> 02:34:44,200
Speaker 2: Go to the airport. Oh boy.

2762
02:34:44,639 --> 02:34:46,360
Speaker 6: The night before he did tell him on the phone,

2763
02:34:46,399 --> 02:34:48,200
Hey brother Sid, this is looking forward to seeing you

2764
02:34:48,239 --> 02:34:50,680
in the morning. This is according to John Thorne, and

2765
02:34:50,840 --> 02:34:53,559
Sid said he'd give him a call. John said he

2766
02:34:53,600 --> 02:34:55,200
went to bed and had his phone on loud all

2767
02:34:55,319 --> 02:34:57,000
night so he can get woken up if the phone

2768
02:34:57,079 --> 02:34:57,840
rang and he was asleep.

2769
02:34:57,959 --> 02:34:58,559
Speaker 2: Never got a call.

2770
02:34:59,399 --> 02:35:01,879
Speaker 6: Sid was suppose to fly at five forty am that day.

2771
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:07,920
John wakes up at eight thirty, no call, and he

2772
02:35:07,959 --> 02:35:09,879
thought to himself, maybe he's just, you know, maybe just

2773
02:35:09,920 --> 02:35:12,520
went to the airport. And I don't know, there's a

2774
02:35:12,680 --> 02:35:14,319
fuck in at the check in or whatever. Maybe you

2775
02:35:14,360 --> 02:35:16,360
got the wrong number, the wrong check in number, whatever.

2776
02:35:17,239 --> 02:35:18,719
He says, you know, I'm just gonna see what happened,

2777
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:23,520
because it's not the easiest to find out if he's

2778
02:35:23,559 --> 02:35:25,079
in the air or not. But you know, if you're

2779
02:35:25,159 --> 02:35:27,479
just some third party. But he was like, you know,

2780
02:35:27,520 --> 02:35:29,600
I'm gonna put the check in number in and at

2781
02:35:29,680 --> 02:35:32,239
least that'll tell me what the seed is he had.

2782
02:35:32,319 --> 02:35:34,159
And because they booked the flight for SID, right, so

2783
02:35:34,280 --> 02:35:38,040
they have some some transparency here and they're going to

2784
02:35:38,079 --> 02:35:39,840
try to find out what's happening with SID. That way,

2785
02:35:40,520 --> 02:35:43,879
somebody goes on American Airlines website. He looks at it

2786
02:35:43,959 --> 02:35:47,239
and says, you know what, this flight it says this

2787
02:35:47,319 --> 02:35:48,479
trip has been canceled.

2788
02:35:49,280 --> 02:35:49,799
Speaker 2: Canceled.

2789
02:35:50,680 --> 02:35:53,479
Speaker 6: Trip isn't canceled, what do you mean, no bad weather

2790
02:35:53,600 --> 02:35:57,440
or anything, And maybe just just canceled, you know, because

2791
02:35:57,479 --> 02:36:00,799
it's it's he's already boarded or something like that. Maybe

2792
02:36:00,799 --> 02:36:03,280
they just cancel it out because it's you know, it's

2793
02:36:03,319 --> 02:36:09,239
been it's been dealt with, it's been launched. So you

2794
02:36:09,319 --> 02:36:12,159
know what, I'm gonna call American Airlines. He says, I'm

2795
02:36:12,159 --> 02:36:13,680
gonna let me let me see if I can get

2796
02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:16,479
further on the phone. So he calls him up and

2797
02:36:18,760 --> 02:36:21,200
guy answers. He says, you know, hey, I am I

2798
02:36:21,239 --> 02:36:23,719
about a flight for somebody, trying to locate him. I

2799
02:36:23,719 --> 02:36:26,120
haven't heard anything. Trying to make sure they're okay. At

2800
02:36:26,159 --> 02:36:28,440
the end of the day, a lot of SID for

2801
02:36:28,520 --> 02:36:30,399
the about a flight for this guy, said Udy and

2802
02:36:30,799 --> 02:36:33,799
six hundred dollars flight non refundable. Give him the check

2803
02:36:33,799 --> 02:36:36,520
in number. They said, yeah, that trip was canceled.

2804
02:36:38,000 --> 02:36:38,799
Speaker 2: But what do you mean.

2805
02:36:40,239 --> 02:36:41,959
Speaker 6: All the flights are on time? It looks like to me,

2806
02:36:43,159 --> 02:36:53,360
they said, no, Sydney Dy has canceled the trip. That's

2807
02:36:53,399 --> 02:36:55,079
the extent of the detail he's able to get.

2808
02:36:56,639 --> 02:36:56,760
Speaker 19: Now.

2809
02:36:56,840 --> 02:37:02,040
Speaker 6: He's deeply frustrated, But I like the promoter we talked

2810
02:37:02,040 --> 02:37:07,000
about before. He's got Sid's number. Yes, and he's recording

2811
02:37:07,040 --> 02:37:10,840
a podcast, Oh my god, and he can put that

2812
02:37:10,959 --> 02:37:11,799
sucker on speaker.

2813
02:37:12,440 --> 02:37:27,680
Speaker 18: No, dude, he's doing some weird fucking hackershit with his phone. Sid, John,

2814
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:30,840
what's up, man, I just got back from the airport.

2815
02:37:31,319 --> 02:37:34,000
Speaker 7: They've got a god damn thing on my driver's license

2816
02:37:34,040 --> 02:37:35,799
is where it says I didn't pay a ticket, and

2817
02:37:35,879 --> 02:37:38,440
I got to sit here. I just looked through my

2818
02:37:38,520 --> 02:37:41,520
mail and it ain't nothing better about a fucking speaking ticket.

2819
02:37:41,520 --> 02:37:44,360
And I guess now that fucking uh Donald Trump has

2820
02:37:44,399 --> 02:37:48,040
got these fucking things. They can't let me get through

2821
02:37:48,079 --> 02:37:50,280
without a passport, and I didn't have my passport. I

2822
02:37:50,319 --> 02:37:51,760
can't find that son of a bitch.

2823
02:37:51,719 --> 02:37:56,079
Speaker 18: Either, So so what happens now?

2824
02:37:56,840 --> 02:37:59,920
Speaker 7: I don't know. John's why I'm sitting there looking looking around,

2825
02:38:00,079 --> 02:38:02,280
think what to do. That's golf to follow with my lawyer.

2826
02:38:04,280 --> 02:38:06,000
He was I was on the phone him when you called.

2827
02:38:06,879 --> 02:38:10,840
He didn't see if anything I can do, He's and

2828
02:38:10,959 --> 02:38:12,799
I'm not the only one that I had a friend

2829
02:38:12,799 --> 02:38:15,840
of mine happiness that they weren't going to a wrestling show,

2830
02:38:15,920 --> 02:38:18,520
but they were. They worked for Delta of all things,

2831
02:38:18,600 --> 02:38:21,479
and when they tried to get connected flight to get

2832
02:38:21,520 --> 02:38:24,120
home the other day. Some to do with this fucking

2833
02:38:26,360 --> 02:38:29,959
this new travel band. If you got like what I've gotten,

2834
02:38:30,040 --> 02:38:32,120
I'm not sure it's the speeding ticket or what it is.

2835
02:38:32,200 --> 02:38:33,680
I got it in the mill the other day. My

2836
02:38:33,799 --> 02:38:38,559
wife actually actually has it, actually had one. And I

2837
02:38:38,639 --> 02:38:41,479
had a friend of mine that you years ago, when

2838
02:38:41,600 --> 02:38:45,239
came in the mill, says a Department of administration and

2839
02:38:45,479 --> 02:38:47,479
opened here is just to see what it was. Because

2840
02:38:47,559 --> 02:38:50,040
the guy's dead now, he's not live anymore. And it

2841
02:38:50,159 --> 02:38:53,680
was a speeding ticket from Louisiana. So I took my wife.

2842
02:38:53,840 --> 02:38:55,239
She ready to me. I can't remember it was the

2843
02:38:55,280 --> 02:38:58,079
speeding ticket or where it was, but because I had

2844
02:38:58,159 --> 02:39:00,719
that on there, I can't. I got to go now,

2845
02:39:00,959 --> 02:39:02,959
I've got to go get my wife is renewed.

2846
02:39:04,159 --> 02:39:06,399
Speaker 18: So they so they just wouldn't watch you through Huh

2847
02:39:06,559 --> 02:39:11,559
they wouldn't let me home. Fuck. Uh yeah, I don't like.

2848
02:39:11,719 --> 02:39:14,559
I called the airport this morning, the airline this morning,

2849
02:39:15,239 --> 02:39:17,319
and uh, you know, they didn't have any answers for me.

2850
02:39:17,399 --> 02:39:19,840
I was trying to call you. What was going on?

2851
02:39:20,479 --> 02:39:25,719
Speaker 7: I doubt your uh uh your phone on my cell

2852
02:39:25,799 --> 02:39:28,159
phone and I must have hit the bone digital I

2853
02:39:28,239 --> 02:39:30,040
got over there. It wasn't going to your number. It

2854
02:39:30,159 --> 02:39:32,120
was going to some fucking automated thing.

2855
02:39:32,760 --> 02:39:35,559
Speaker 2: Oh wow, because I you know that way and have

2856
02:39:35,719 --> 02:39:36,079
it with me.

2857
02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:40,479
Speaker 7: And again, like you said, I know the girl works

2858
02:39:40,520 --> 02:39:42,840
there a Delta. She says, there's there's nothing we can do.

2859
02:39:44,360 --> 02:39:47,120
Speaker 18: Uh, well, your flight was on American I know.

2860
02:39:47,239 --> 02:39:49,399
Speaker 7: That, but she works there, so I tired going and

2861
02:39:49,479 --> 02:39:52,559
see if she knew anybody and you know, help me

2862
02:39:52,639 --> 02:39:55,440
out on that. But she said the same thing happened

2863
02:39:55,479 --> 02:39:58,079
to her. And then I keep remember that the other

2864
02:39:58,159 --> 02:40:02,120
person was I didn't And it just depends what state.

2865
02:40:03,920 --> 02:40:05,840
Who is this? I used to talk to a girl

2866
02:40:05,879 --> 02:40:07,920
in the gym about that yesterday. That's what it was.

2867
02:40:08,920 --> 02:40:10,760
But that's what it is, John. I can't get through

2868
02:40:10,799 --> 02:40:13,200
because I've got some kind of fucking outstanding thing and

2869
02:40:13,280 --> 02:40:15,479
it can't be no more of the goddamn speeding tickets.

2870
02:40:15,520 --> 02:40:17,520
I can't think of anything else. I but even had

2871
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:21,159
I can't even remember getting the speeding ticket. And this

2872
02:40:21,280 --> 02:40:25,319
could be something. You know. What happened was I've only

2873
02:40:25,360 --> 02:40:29,879
had driver's license down for about a year. They never

2874
02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:32,079
did what it was. For seven years, I couldn't get

2875
02:40:32,079 --> 02:40:35,120
a driver's license. Uh, maybe longer than that. They said

2876
02:40:35,120 --> 02:40:36,920
there's something wrong with it. Was something wrong with it.

2877
02:40:37,280 --> 02:40:39,719
I got a lawyer and went through every fucking state

2878
02:40:39,760 --> 02:40:41,719
in the Union see if there was a speeding ticket

2879
02:40:41,840 --> 02:40:43,680
or something somewhere outstanding.

2880
02:40:44,239 --> 02:40:46,079
Speaker 2: They never really could find anything.

2881
02:40:46,840 --> 02:40:49,760
Speaker 7: And then I got a ticket one day and the

2882
02:40:49,840 --> 02:40:51,959
judge says, you better fucking find out what's going on,

2883
02:40:52,120 --> 02:40:53,479
You're gonna be in trouble. So I went to the

2884
02:40:53,600 --> 02:40:56,719
revenue office. Now they look they just said, hey, we

2885
02:40:56,799 --> 02:40:59,440
can't find anything. And that's what's so weird about it

2886
02:40:59,479 --> 02:41:02,040
when they look it up. Even when I get pulled over,

2887
02:41:02,639 --> 02:41:05,840
they changed nothing on your records showing that you shouldn't

2888
02:41:05,840 --> 02:41:09,040
have shouldn't be able to get your driver's license. I

2889
02:41:09,159 --> 02:41:12,680
finally got so, and I've had them that for over

2890
02:41:12,719 --> 02:41:15,239
a year. But I don't know if that's the same

2891
02:41:15,399 --> 02:41:21,879
thing popping up or what it is so damn administration

2892
02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:23,719
thing that my wife getting ready to me I can't

2893
02:41:23,840 --> 02:41:26,840
ever or something stupid.

2894
02:41:28,000 --> 02:41:29,959
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know that's Uh, this kind of sucks for

2895
02:41:30,040 --> 02:41:31,360
me because I had a lot, you know, I sold

2896
02:41:31,360 --> 02:41:32,520
a lot of tickets for tonight.

2897
02:41:33,239 --> 02:41:39,040
Speaker 7: I know, John, and I'm I'm not upset more than

2898
02:41:39,079 --> 02:41:41,319
you are, of course, but I'm pissed about everything that

2899
02:41:41,399 --> 02:41:43,680
I pissed down that I don't have a fucking driver's license.

2900
02:41:44,520 --> 02:41:46,639
Speaker 18: Yeah, I just don't know how I'm gonna explain it

2901
02:41:46,680 --> 02:41:51,520
to people, you know, right, It's.

2902
02:41:51,440 --> 02:41:54,520
Speaker 7: Just I don't know, man, man right now, and I've

2903
02:41:54,559 --> 02:42:00,200
got ten thousand fucking other things stupid, and it's just a. Yeah,

2904
02:42:00,200 --> 02:42:02,479
I spent seven years trying to figure this fucking thing out.

2905
02:42:02,520 --> 02:42:03,479
I thought it was behind me.

2906
02:42:04,600 --> 02:42:06,479
Speaker 13: And because they.

2907
02:42:06,440 --> 02:42:09,000
Speaker 7: Said the colendar, they said, what it was is because

2908
02:42:09,040 --> 02:42:11,479
of these jew restrictions that Donald Trump has put on

2909
02:42:11,559 --> 02:42:14,280
different states. And they don't know because they can't look

2910
02:42:14,280 --> 02:42:17,639
to it because well, you've got a problem in this state, you.

2911
02:42:17,639 --> 02:42:18,120
Speaker 11: Know what I mean.

2912
02:42:18,360 --> 02:42:20,079
Speaker 18: That's fucking that's fucking Trump man.

2913
02:42:20,159 --> 02:42:23,840
Speaker 7: I tell you, Donald, tell you what, John, I've never

2914
02:42:23,959 --> 02:42:28,719
voted my whole life. Donald Trump has messed up more

2915
02:42:28,840 --> 02:42:32,600
things than this. We could go on all day.

2916
02:42:33,520 --> 02:42:34,959
Speaker 2: It's because the football thing.

2917
02:42:35,079 --> 02:42:37,479
Speaker 7: You know, I did want call him Tapernick around either

2918
02:42:38,680 --> 02:42:41,079
for what he did. But the deal was is the

2919
02:42:41,280 --> 02:42:43,760
NFL owner said already decided he wasn't going to be

2920
02:42:44,959 --> 02:42:47,680
So Donald Trump steps in and makes of all this fuss.

2921
02:42:48,200 --> 02:42:51,319
Now everybody, I know, not you watching football anymore.

2922
02:42:52,440 --> 02:42:54,920
Speaker 18: It's you know, it's turning it into a real crazy world.

2923
02:42:56,079 --> 02:42:58,000
Speaker 7: Well he just turned it into something he didn't have to.

2924
02:42:58,719 --> 02:42:58,840
Speaker 2: You know.

2925
02:42:59,120 --> 02:43:01,639
Speaker 7: Again, they want to said Kaepernick, you're not going to

2926
02:43:01,680 --> 02:43:05,120
place if you were that this dance that you wanted

2927
02:43:05,159 --> 02:43:08,280
to take, it was already taken. So Donald Trump comes

2928
02:43:08,360 --> 02:43:10,879
in and makes up a little bit more fuss. Now

2929
02:43:11,159 --> 02:43:14,479
it's got you know, I know, I don't Honestly, I

2930
02:43:14,600 --> 02:43:18,079
don't know anything. People that I talked to when I

2931
02:43:18,159 --> 02:43:21,399
bring up the subject that are watching football now.

2932
02:43:21,319 --> 02:43:23,200
Speaker 18: I'm not watching. Do you hear Vincent Man might buy

2933
02:43:23,239 --> 02:43:24,200
the Carolina Panthers?

2934
02:43:25,479 --> 02:43:26,040
Speaker 7: Do what now?

2935
02:43:26,479 --> 02:43:28,479
Speaker 18: Vincent Man might buy the Carolina Panthers.

2936
02:43:28,799 --> 02:43:29,280
Speaker 2: Did you hear that?

2937
02:43:29,440 --> 02:43:29,680
Speaker 7: Really?

2938
02:43:30,040 --> 02:43:30,239
Speaker 15: Yeah?

2939
02:43:31,280 --> 02:43:33,760
Speaker 18: He's he's uh, or he might bring the XFL back,

2940
02:43:33,799 --> 02:43:34,399
that's the rumor.

2941
02:43:35,479 --> 02:43:37,319
Speaker 7: Well, you do the only thing about this is this

2942
02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:42,680
John down Mark Cuban. Okay, if they're going to turn

2943
02:43:42,719 --> 02:43:45,319
down Mark Cubans, they're definitely gonna turn down Vince mcman.

2944
02:43:46,680 --> 02:43:49,959
Speaker 18: I agree, you know what I mean absolutely.

2945
02:43:50,360 --> 02:43:53,280
Speaker 7: Well, there's a you know, I guess if there's any

2946
02:43:53,399 --> 02:43:57,879
type of fraternity that's gonna that's gonna be funny. The

2947
02:43:58,040 --> 02:44:00,799
last touch or last effect about this will be the

2948
02:44:00,959 --> 02:44:06,200
NFL football owners. You know, I would you know, I

2949
02:44:06,280 --> 02:44:12,200
didn't know. I didn't realize this today. This so before

2950
02:44:12,239 --> 02:44:15,920
they ever let someone like put this man into probably

2951
02:44:16,959 --> 02:44:19,200
you know, put a black owner in first. But I

2952
02:44:19,399 --> 02:44:22,799
doubt that even you know, they're gonna be real picky

2953
02:44:22,799 --> 02:44:23,959
about who they put in there.

2954
02:44:25,440 --> 02:44:28,719
Speaker 18: Maybe uh, you know, maybe uh, in a couple of weeks,

2955
02:44:28,760 --> 02:44:31,120
we could have you on my podcast or something and

2956
02:44:31,239 --> 02:44:35,479
you could maybe like explain, yes, explain the situation. I'm

2957
02:44:35,520 --> 02:44:37,239
just trying to find now. I'm trying to scrabble to

2958
02:44:37,280 --> 02:44:40,159
try to find a replacement for you know, something I

2959
02:44:40,200 --> 02:44:42,319
don't I don't know what's getting what to do.

2960
02:44:44,280 --> 02:44:46,639
Speaker 7: Well, I'm sorry this happened, Dan, I said, Thank god,

2961
02:44:46,680 --> 02:44:48,879
I just got home the stove man's go work. Could

2962
02:44:48,920 --> 02:44:50,920
call you. I heard the phone ring and as I

2963
02:44:51,000 --> 02:44:54,239
was getting in the door. But oh my god, it's

2964
02:44:54,360 --> 02:44:57,959
just I'm sorry. I'm gonna I'm gonna fix. I just

2965
02:44:58,040 --> 02:45:00,239
called my lawyer. He's checking over the find that was

2966
02:45:00,280 --> 02:45:00,520
going on.

2967
02:45:00,760 --> 02:45:01,959
Speaker 2: He just called his lawyer wing.

2968
02:45:02,120 --> 02:45:03,799
Speaker 7: Oh see what the fuck is going on?

2969
02:45:04,239 --> 02:45:06,120
Speaker 18: Yeah, because I'm you know, I'm out quite quite a

2970
02:45:06,159 --> 02:45:08,200
bit of money too on the flight in the hotel and.

2971
02:45:08,280 --> 02:45:11,840
Speaker 7: Donald Trump, I know, your money back to the hotel hopefully.

2972
02:45:12,079 --> 02:45:14,680
Speaker 18: Now because it's not twenty four hours. They won't. I

2973
02:45:14,719 --> 02:45:17,559
already called. They wouldn't give me the money back. Oh shit,

2974
02:45:18,520 --> 02:45:19,399
So I'm kind of man.

2975
02:45:19,399 --> 02:45:21,440
Speaker 7: I'm sorry that I could be maybe next time, but

2976
02:45:21,799 --> 02:45:23,559
set up a podcast something. I'll be glad.

2977
02:45:23,639 --> 02:45:26,000
Speaker 18: To do that for you, okay, man, you know, and

2978
02:45:26,440 --> 02:45:28,319
keep keep in touch. Maybe we could have you come

2979
02:45:28,399 --> 02:45:29,399
to a makeup or something.

2980
02:45:30,159 --> 02:45:31,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd be glad to do that.

2981
02:45:32,000 --> 02:45:32,319
Speaker 2: All right.

2982
02:45:32,360 --> 02:45:34,639
Speaker 18: Well, you know, keep stay in touch and keep me,

2983
02:45:34,920 --> 02:45:36,879
keep me in a loop with the license and what's

2984
02:45:36,920 --> 02:45:39,479
going on with the Trump stuff and your your license.

2985
02:45:40,239 --> 02:45:42,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then just again, you know when you want

2986
02:45:42,159 --> 02:45:44,200
to do this podcast, so you get a chance. I'd

2987
02:45:44,239 --> 02:45:46,600
love to be able to come back, you know, to me.

2988
02:45:46,719 --> 02:45:48,360
It's been fishing me off twice. And you know, my

2989
02:45:48,399 --> 02:45:51,079
writer expecting to see me now you gotta call him,

2990
02:45:51,120 --> 02:45:53,239
tell him I can't make it. It was uh, it

2991
02:45:53,360 --> 02:45:56,440
was really a great opportunity for me to have to

2992
02:45:56,479 --> 02:45:56,840
be able to.

2993
02:45:56,840 --> 02:45:57,879
Speaker 8: Do one time.

2994
02:45:58,799 --> 02:46:00,639
Speaker 18: Right, Yeah, I know you're like forward to seeing the

2995
02:46:00,639 --> 02:46:12,000
book writer, so just sometimes yeah, absolutely, just keep in touch. Okay,

2996
02:46:12,399 --> 02:46:13,479
have a great day you too.

2997
02:46:15,559 --> 02:46:21,360
Speaker 2: I guess he's not coming. What the fuck? I don't

2998
02:46:21,399 --> 02:46:27,360
even know where to begin. I mean, that's absolutely insanity.

2999
02:46:27,600 --> 02:46:28,000
Speaker 7: Like he.

3000
02:46:30,120 --> 02:46:33,479
Speaker 2: The tangents, the yes exactly. He just went off on

3001
02:46:33,959 --> 02:46:38,520
so many different like every time there was some way

3002
02:46:38,600 --> 02:46:45,520
to connect, like every time there was like he just

3003
02:46:45,959 --> 02:46:47,760
he just kind of kept like it was basically like

3004
02:46:47,879 --> 02:46:51,479
one long run on sentence. You know, he just kept

3005
02:46:52,319 --> 02:46:54,959
something else, like he just talked about Trump and all

3006
02:46:54,959 --> 02:46:56,120
of a sudden talking about football.

3007
02:46:56,239 --> 02:47:00,159
Speaker 24: And here's the thing, John, Yeah, right, exactly, here's the thing,

3008
02:47:00,239 --> 02:47:03,879
exactly like he's and what is I guess what's really

3009
02:47:04,000 --> 02:47:09,319
the most brilliant and at the same time horrifying.

3010
02:47:08,799 --> 02:47:14,280
Speaker 2: Thing is how casually he does it. Yes, and I

3011
02:47:14,399 --> 02:47:17,200
know that that's kind of the the thing, and wrestlers

3012
02:47:17,280 --> 02:47:18,879
do that, But I'll tell you, I don't know, Like

3013
02:47:18,959 --> 02:47:22,600
there's something about the way Sid does it that you're

3014
02:47:23,959 --> 02:47:26,280
if you're not, if you're not kind of of the

3015
02:47:26,399 --> 02:47:31,239
right mind set and you're not on your own game,

3016
02:47:33,120 --> 02:47:33,879
he could fool you.

3017
02:47:34,159 --> 02:47:39,319
Speaker 25: Yep, yep, amen, because he keeps just talking and talking

3018
02:47:39,399 --> 02:47:42,159
and talking. He just exhausts you to the point where

3019
02:47:42,159 --> 02:47:44,680
it's like it's going to be easier at this. I'm

3020
02:47:44,719 --> 02:47:46,840
already pissed off with this guy to begin with. It's

3021
02:47:46,879 --> 02:47:48,760
not going to make me feel any better to let

3022
02:47:48,840 --> 02:47:52,040
him talk at me for twenty five minutes about tangential subjects.

3023
02:47:52,200 --> 02:47:53,639
Speaker 2: And he knows it's not only that, but he's just

3024
02:47:53,760 --> 02:47:55,559
the way he just keeps going and he knows.

3025
02:47:55,479 --> 02:47:57,600
Speaker 6: This he's not doing it because he's he's not doing

3026
02:47:57,639 --> 02:48:00,639
it by mistake. The more he talks to you can talk,

3027
02:48:00,799 --> 02:48:01,559
you know exactly.

3028
02:48:01,680 --> 02:48:06,959
Speaker 2: Yep. So in other words, good guy and a pleasure

3029
02:48:07,000 --> 02:48:08,319
to deal with, and a guy who never got a

3030
02:48:08,360 --> 02:48:12,840
fair shake in the business. I mean, what the fuck? Seriously,

3031
02:48:13,000 --> 02:48:13,680
what the fuck?

3032
02:48:14,239 --> 02:48:15,920
Speaker 6: And you got to think how many times he played

3033
02:48:15,959 --> 02:48:18,159
cards like that? Eleven years on a license?

3034
02:48:18,200 --> 02:48:18,799
Speaker 2: Is what he said?

3035
02:48:20,399 --> 02:48:23,200
Speaker 6: You see something like that, like, I mean, maybe I

3036
02:48:23,239 --> 02:48:25,440
don't know, Maybe it's getting arrested for having weed on you.

3037
02:48:25,600 --> 02:48:27,920
Maybe that's what the problem is. You can't It was

3038
02:48:27,920 --> 02:48:29,680
another one of those like, you know, I don't know

3039
02:48:29,760 --> 02:48:31,520
what it could be, you know, over and over again.

3040
02:48:31,760 --> 02:48:33,840
And my wife read it to me over the phone.

3041
02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:36,319
So that explains why he doesn't have it on his person.

3042
02:48:38,159 --> 02:48:42,600
But what and he didn't have a license when he

3043
02:48:42,639 --> 02:48:44,440
got pulled over with the marijuana either, right.

3044
02:48:46,159 --> 02:48:49,239
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Seriously, it really is unbelievable.

3045
02:48:49,840 --> 02:48:52,840
Speaker 6: So you can imagine just how how breathless the headlines

3046
02:48:52,840 --> 02:48:55,079
were about how Trump you know, sid blames.

3047
02:48:54,799 --> 02:48:57,680
Speaker 2: Trump in the twist.

3048
02:48:57,760 --> 02:49:02,719
Speaker 6: Don't imagine on the twisted every promoter saying about this

3049
02:49:02,840 --> 02:49:04,840
guy all this time and he mentioned the book. You know,

3050
02:49:04,920 --> 02:49:06,239
he mentioned he was going to meet with a writer

3051
02:49:06,360 --> 02:49:09,440
too when he was out there. And needless to say,

3052
02:49:09,600 --> 02:49:12,680
we've gone all these weeks talking about Sid and we

3053
02:49:12,799 --> 02:49:16,159
never had an opportunity to quote from his book because

3054
02:49:17,079 --> 02:49:18,600
let me give you a guest, boss, do you think

3055
02:49:18,600 --> 02:49:19,120
it came out?

3056
02:49:19,239 --> 02:49:20,000
Speaker 2: Do you think it was no?

3057
02:49:20,680 --> 02:49:22,600
Speaker 6: Do you think it was problem an issue free trying

3058
02:49:22,600 --> 02:49:24,280
to work with Sid on getting a book out about

3059
02:49:24,280 --> 02:49:24,559
his life.

3060
02:49:25,040 --> 02:49:29,760
Speaker 2: I would imagine that there were some inconsistencies on the

3061
02:49:29,879 --> 02:49:30,959
level of Diana Hart.

3062
02:49:35,959 --> 02:49:42,000
Speaker 6: It came out in review form to select few, very

3063
02:49:42,040 --> 02:49:44,959
few have seen the book Sid decided to write, called

3064
02:49:45,879 --> 02:49:47,040
Poetry in the Sand.

3065
02:49:48,399 --> 02:49:50,200
Speaker 2: The Israel story came.

3066
02:49:50,040 --> 02:49:53,840
Speaker 6: Out in twenty twelve. Now a wrestler, a writer at

3067
02:49:53,840 --> 02:49:56,760
Slam Wrestling named Tom Letterge was able to get his

3068
02:49:56,840 --> 02:49:58,639
hands on the book. And this is the description we're

3069
02:49:58,680 --> 02:50:00,559
able to get. If anybody, are you out there in

3070
02:50:00,600 --> 02:50:03,559
the Solar System by hook or by crook, is in

3071
02:50:03,680 --> 02:50:06,360
receipt of a copy of this thing, we would love

3072
02:50:06,399 --> 02:50:08,559
to see it. But it's not a huge loss because

3073
02:50:08,559 --> 02:50:10,920
from what I understand, it's just like that phone call.

3074
02:50:11,920 --> 02:50:16,040
Speaker 2: Well, but then again, that is a huge loss, right

3075
02:50:16,399 --> 02:50:17,559
for entertainment.

3076
02:50:17,200 --> 02:50:21,680
Speaker 6: Factor, or I should say it as Sid says it right, right,

3077
02:50:22,040 --> 02:50:27,959
right right. Poetry in the Sand. Tom writes detail Sid

3078
02:50:28,040 --> 02:50:30,639
Vicious is larger than life persona, but is small and

3079
02:50:30,719 --> 02:50:35,040
wrestling dirt. First off, the title of this Sid Vicious biography,

3080
02:50:35,079 --> 02:50:37,200
Poetry in the Sand, is based on a misheard Beach

3081
02:50:37,280 --> 02:50:42,280
Boys lyric from California Girls. Author Barry R. Norman writes

3082
02:50:42,319 --> 02:50:44,399
at the stand in for palm Trees in the Sand

3083
02:50:44,559 --> 02:50:46,879
reminded him of the six seven, three hundred pound Vicious

3084
02:50:46,920 --> 02:50:50,200
Sports Sydney Udy. Norman explains that he and Psycho Sid

3085
02:50:50,280 --> 02:50:53,079
met and became friends during their time at World Championship Wrestling.

3086
02:50:53,600 --> 02:50:55,479
Udi was an in ring ruler of the World in

3087
02:50:55,520 --> 02:50:58,680
Norman working television production. Norman is a self described media

3088
02:50:58,760 --> 02:51:00,879
junkie who has worked in print, me movie's music, and

3089
02:51:00,920 --> 02:51:03,520
even promoting the Olympics. He has self published other books,

3090
02:51:03,559 --> 02:51:06,120
but in this his first one on professional wrestling, The

3091
02:51:06,280 --> 02:51:09,959
Udi Baya, was published by Stillwater River Publications. The book's

3092
02:51:10,000 --> 02:51:12,399
forward gives great detail about the men's friendship and how

3093
02:51:12,440 --> 02:51:18,760
things very recently went wrong. Early on, Uti poses the

3094
02:51:18,840 --> 02:51:22,319
question do you think you know me? Perhaps most wrestling

3095
02:51:22,399 --> 02:51:25,159
fans do remember his beginning as Lordymungus as w CW

3096
02:51:25,239 --> 02:51:27,920
battles with Sid and Hulk Stinging Hulkogan Rather and his

3097
02:51:28,000 --> 02:51:31,760
World Wrestling Federation now World Wrestling Entertainment squash match against

3098
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:34,000
the late Big Bully Busick along with his manager Harvey

3099
02:51:34,000 --> 02:51:37,079
Whippleman Downtown Bruno. Udye spends a great deal of the

3100
02:51:37,120 --> 02:51:39,879
book detailing his childhood, which began on an Air Force

3101
02:51:39,920 --> 02:51:43,360
base in Moses Lake, Washington and more famously for his fans,

3102
02:51:43,680 --> 02:51:46,680
West Memphis, Arkansas. Although Norman wrote the book, it is

3103
02:51:46,799 --> 02:51:50,319
entirely in Udie's oftentimes hyperkinetic tempo with a run on,

3104
02:51:50,799 --> 02:51:54,920
sometimes rambling, and random style reminiscent of Jack Carroll Wacken

3105
02:51:54,959 --> 02:51:59,479
Hunter S. Thompson Sid was Wrestling's Hunter S Thompson.

3106
02:52:00,159 --> 02:52:01,959
Speaker 2: That's that's Ie Wow.

3107
02:52:02,479 --> 02:52:05,319
Speaker 6: Youuty details how his family moved frequently, especially after his

3108
02:52:05,399 --> 02:52:07,719
parents split. He spent quality time with some of the

3109
02:52:07,799 --> 02:52:10,879
men his mother dated and had relationships with following the

3110
02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:13,520
marriage breakup. As a growing teen, you'd he worked long

3111
02:52:13,559 --> 02:52:17,200
hours on farms under the stifling Arkansas sun, saving money

3112
02:52:17,239 --> 02:52:19,239
for brand new sports cars that enabled him to rack

3113
02:52:19,319 --> 02:52:22,440
up DUIs and other traffic citations in a short period

3114
02:52:22,479 --> 02:52:22,799
of time.

3115
02:52:23,479 --> 02:52:24,239
Speaker 2: Oh my God good.

3116
02:52:24,280 --> 02:52:27,360
Speaker 6: He explores childhood adventures along with drug and alcohol use.

3117
02:52:27,360 --> 02:52:29,360
The one hundred and fifty two page tome is a

3118
02:52:29,440 --> 02:52:31,040
quick read, but don't look for much in the way

3119
02:52:31,079 --> 02:52:34,000
of backstage wrestling stories. He addresses the infamous arn Anderson's

3120
02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:35,239
stabbing incident in less than.

3121
02:52:35,280 --> 02:52:38,959
Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want that. I wow what

3122
02:52:39,239 --> 02:52:42,120
he's going to do with all the craziness. He knows

3123
02:52:42,159 --> 02:52:44,479
what you want, and he's gonna wait for you. Yes,

3124
02:52:44,559 --> 02:52:47,319
he's gonna insist that you sit down and eat like

3125
02:52:47,920 --> 02:52:50,639
ninety five percent of your meal as vegetables before he

3126
02:52:50,680 --> 02:52:54,079
gives you like five percent of yummy st Yes, in

3127
02:52:54,159 --> 02:52:56,360
less than one hundred words, and it is fifty nine

3128
02:52:56,399 --> 02:52:58,799
pages in before he devotes time to his horrific and

3129
02:52:58,920 --> 02:53:01,719
ring like break in ww Oodi notes that his animosity

3130
02:53:01,760 --> 02:53:03,959
toward w B chairman and CEO Vince McMahon helped him

3131
02:53:04,000 --> 02:53:07,000
get through rehab. Norman confirms that Udy was indeed angry

3132
02:53:07,040 --> 02:53:09,079
with Nicmahn despite not being employed by w B when

3133
02:53:09,120 --> 02:53:12,879
the injury occurred. In chapter ten, Throwing Everybody under the Bus,

3134
02:53:13,079 --> 02:53:16,719
Oodie takes a jarring turn from stories to strange declarations.

3135
02:53:17,000 --> 02:53:19,440
He claims to never have missed a booking due to softball.

3136
02:53:19,799 --> 02:53:22,000
Anyone who has followed his independent bookings nose that's an

3137
02:53:22,000 --> 02:53:24,840
abject fallacy. In fact, he claims to not play softball

3138
02:53:24,959 --> 02:53:29,520
but semi professional tittly winks. Excuse, excuse me.

3139
02:53:29,840 --> 02:53:32,719
Speaker 6: According to Norman, Udi doesn't relish in wrestling talk, but

3140
02:53:32,719 --> 02:53:34,719
would rather talk about his years growing up. I wonder

3141
02:53:34,799 --> 02:53:37,159
why you will find that here and you'll grow to

3142
02:53:37,239 --> 02:53:40,680
appreciate this somewhat low key former champion. The storytelling does

3143
02:53:40,760 --> 02:53:43,559
take a less Thompson esk Ryde in the book Rest

3144
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:46,760
of the Way. Probably Udi is introspective when it comes

3145
02:53:46,799 --> 02:53:49,440
to faith religion. His relationship with his loving aunt Joyce

3146
02:53:49,479 --> 02:53:51,200
is the highlight of the book. His love of music,

3147
02:53:51,239 --> 02:53:53,360
snippets of song lyrics that are meaningful to him dot

3148
02:53:53,399 --> 02:53:56,319
the book, and personal relationships. There is a strange chapter

3149
02:53:56,479 --> 02:54:01,079
dedicated to the coda angle Ud believes would be a

3150
02:54:01,120 --> 02:54:03,319
great wrestling angle, but could only be told by the

3151
02:54:03,360 --> 02:54:05,520
same team that brought the film The Peanut Butter Falcon

3152
02:54:05,559 --> 02:54:08,319
to the big screen, or by Norman's own film contacts.

3153
02:54:08,600 --> 02:54:09,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry what now.

3154
02:54:09,440 --> 02:54:13,200
Speaker 6: The coda angle revolves around a gigantic, masked wrestler named

3155
02:54:13,319 --> 02:54:17,879
Faust who comes out of independent Wrestling Nowhere and resembles

3156
02:54:17,920 --> 02:54:22,239
a certain destructive behemoth. Faust's wheelchair bound manager dukes McMahon

3157
02:54:23,079 --> 02:54:27,200
into signing Faust to a contract. After much exposition, much

3158
02:54:27,239 --> 02:54:30,200
more detail than any program in WW history, it's determined

3159
02:54:30,239 --> 02:54:34,159
that Faust is in fact a superpowered ud. A happy,

3160
02:54:34,520 --> 02:54:40,239
satisfying ending ultimately concludes Udy's storied career. So sign good

3161
02:54:40,280 --> 02:54:48,280
Pitch Boss. The coda angle, I don't really have a wheelchair.

3162
02:54:49,760 --> 02:54:50,600
Speaker 2: And now for the Udi.

3163
02:54:50,719 --> 02:54:53,600
Speaker 6: In Norman's story, According to Norman, a long time ago,

3164
02:54:53,799 --> 02:54:55,920
the two met on the job and bonded over their

3165
02:54:55,959 --> 02:54:59,440
shared love of softball, and remained best friends until recently.

3166
02:55:00,200 --> 02:55:02,680
In fact, Poetry in the Sand with Uty emulating Marvel

3167
02:55:02,719 --> 02:55:05,319
Comics Sandman on the front cover is currently in distribution

3168
02:55:05,479 --> 02:55:09,040
limbo in some buying platforms, according to Norman. On June twelfth,

3169
02:55:09,040 --> 02:55:11,840
twenty twenty, Amazon notified in the email that the book

3170
02:55:11,920 --> 02:55:14,360
was pulled from its website, noting that they don't want

3171
02:55:14,360 --> 02:55:16,120
to get into the middle of a legal dispute. At

3172
02:55:16,159 --> 02:55:18,319
press time, a resolution for this dispute is still pending.

3173
02:55:19,040 --> 02:55:21,040
In recent bonds if not weeks, The friends have had

3174
02:55:21,079 --> 02:55:23,159
a falling out, most of it seems to surround a

3175
02:55:23,200 --> 02:55:25,399
planned visit to Utie's home, as well as the tone

3176
02:55:25,440 --> 02:55:28,479
of the book itself. The rift widened from there. Most notably,

3177
02:55:28,559 --> 02:55:30,239
Uti in his legal team argued that the book did

3178
02:55:30,280 --> 02:55:34,120
not have a legal certificate of registration. Oh my god, Si,

3179
02:55:34,159 --> 02:55:35,719
guy who can't figure out why he does have a

3180
02:55:35,799 --> 02:55:38,360
license is filing lawsuits saying you don't have a valiant

3181
02:55:38,399 --> 02:55:41,520
certificate of registration. But Norman is quick to provide proof

3182
02:55:41,559 --> 02:55:43,680
that he has crossed his tees and dotted his eyes.

3183
02:55:44,000 --> 02:55:46,920
On the Vicious Circle podcast, duty is discussed replacing Norman

3184
02:55:46,959 --> 02:55:50,120
as his biographer. In their now evaporated friendship, Both men

3185
02:55:50,200 --> 02:55:53,239
have admitted to experiencing bouts of depression, and Norman says

3186
02:55:53,280 --> 02:55:55,159
the two bonded over their troubles as well as their

3187
02:55:55,200 --> 02:55:58,799
happier times. Sadly, Norman says Uti has recently reached out

3188
02:55:58,799 --> 02:56:01,120
to him. However, its his opinion that their friendship is

3189
02:56:01,200 --> 02:56:05,479
irrevek irrevocably broken. Editor's note for more in the Conflict

3190
02:56:05,520 --> 02:56:08,239
of the biopleasee Letargy's previous slam Wrestling dot Net story,

3191
02:56:09,040 --> 02:56:11,559
Slim Wrestling dot Net did reach out to Udi through

3192
02:56:12,680 --> 02:56:15,719
Rob his podcast co host, to offer Udi the opportunity

3193
02:56:15,760 --> 02:56:17,600
to share his side of the story. Bellamy responded to

3194
02:56:17,639 --> 02:56:19,920
the email quote as for the book, once the legal

3195
02:56:19,959 --> 02:56:21,879
side has wrapped, both Sid and myself would be happy

3196
02:56:21,959 --> 02:56:25,760
to talk about it. Nonetheless, thanks to Norman's seasoned guidance

3197
02:56:25,840 --> 02:56:27,840
with Poetry in the Sand, we do get to know

3198
02:56:27,879 --> 02:56:30,840
who Udie is, and the One Time Skyscraper is as

3199
02:56:30,879 --> 02:56:33,719
complicated as a wrestling fan may surmise. He isn't as

3200
02:56:33,760 --> 02:56:36,680
detailed as the writings of Christ Jericho or mcfoley, but

3201
02:56:36,760 --> 02:56:38,399
it is a must read for anyone yearning to know

3202
02:56:38,520 --> 02:56:42,600
more about Udi. Norman's next project is writing a play

3203
02:56:42,639 --> 02:56:46,440
about the infamous Montreal screwjob, written in Shakespeare in English.

3204
02:56:52,680 --> 02:56:52,920
Speaker 14: Ah.

3205
02:56:56,159 --> 02:57:04,120
Speaker 6: So yeah, good luck getting a Sid book out. I

3206
02:57:04,959 --> 02:57:07,959
doesn't this guy sound the biggest nightmare in the world

3207
02:57:08,000 --> 02:57:08,399
to deal with?

3208
02:57:08,920 --> 02:57:12,959
Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, sounds like just a complete I don't

3209
02:57:12,959 --> 02:57:23,000
even know. Ah, I mean I need this book. Yeah,

3210
02:57:23,000 --> 02:57:24,879
I think we need to find it. It sounds like

3211
02:57:24,959 --> 02:57:27,520
it's for a limited period of time it was out there.

3212
02:57:27,600 --> 02:57:31,040
It sounds like, but it's an important artifact. I haven't

3213
02:57:31,079 --> 02:57:34,280
seen really any evidence. I saw a screenship screenshot, but

3214
02:57:34,360 --> 02:57:36,399
a photo someone put up holding it with a cover

3215
02:57:36,520 --> 02:57:38,879
in their hand. But I haven't seen any indication that

3216
02:57:39,040 --> 02:57:43,120
what's it called again, what do you call the book

3217
02:57:43,680 --> 02:57:47,319
Poetry in the Sand? I mean, that's what he called

3218
02:57:47,319 --> 02:57:50,840
this book, Okay, poetry in the sand? Called this book

3219
02:57:52,120 --> 02:57:54,879
poetry in the sand? Or poetry in the sand? In

3220
02:57:55,040 --> 02:58:02,799
the sand? Yes, poetry in the Sand. I yeah, I

3221
02:58:02,840 --> 02:58:03,879
don't even know where to begin.

3222
02:58:05,600 --> 02:58:10,639
Speaker 6: So perhaps sensing that the book was not necessarily forthcoming

3223
02:58:10,879 --> 02:58:14,000
in terms of wider distribution and no longer needing to

3224
02:58:14,200 --> 02:58:17,000
hold back on, you know, just talking openly and freely

3225
02:58:17,079 --> 02:58:18,680
on some of the details of his of his life

3226
02:58:18,719 --> 02:58:21,120
that he thought he'd save for the book. That that's

3227
02:58:21,120 --> 02:58:23,319
always the most frustrating part of any wrestler's life is

3228
02:58:23,319 --> 02:58:25,079
when they think they have a book coming that someone

3229
02:58:25,120 --> 02:58:27,840
wants to read, and they're interviewed one hundred times and

3230
02:58:27,879 --> 02:58:31,120
they withhold things, you'll have to read the book, Oh god, please,

3231
02:58:31,600 --> 02:58:33,600
I won't have to read the book. Say it now

3232
02:58:33,840 --> 02:58:36,200
or forever. Hold your piece, because you're really testing my

3233
02:58:36,319 --> 02:58:39,159
patience right now and my interest. In fact, you're making

3234
02:58:39,200 --> 02:58:41,239
me not want to buy the book so that you

3235
02:58:41,319 --> 02:58:44,280
don't get to win this fucking strange tug of war

3236
02:58:44,319 --> 02:58:48,600
who we're engaged in. But so he starts a podcast.

3237
02:58:48,879 --> 02:58:52,000
It's called The Vicious Circle, and the co host is

3238
02:58:52,799 --> 02:58:55,079
someone we've heard, you know, in snippets along the way,

3239
02:58:55,680 --> 02:58:59,079
and he starts talking about his career and his life

3240
02:58:59,239 --> 02:59:01,200
and his upbringing and color is and a lot of

3241
02:59:01,280 --> 02:59:03,840
things that we weren't sure about. For instance, why is

3242
02:59:04,040 --> 02:59:06,719
Washington state listed? It's his birthplace when he was such

3243
02:59:06,719 --> 02:59:09,639
an Arkansas boy and his family sharecroppers in the area

3244
02:59:10,280 --> 02:59:11,920
because he was born on an air Force base and

3245
02:59:12,079 --> 02:59:14,920
Washington was gone from that spot within a couple of

3246
02:59:15,000 --> 02:59:17,360
years and moved all around as his father, a hot

3247
02:59:17,399 --> 02:59:20,840
shit air Force pilot, flew all over the place and

3248
02:59:21,280 --> 02:59:23,559
thus leading to Sid's interest and ability and flying, but

3249
02:59:24,120 --> 02:59:27,200
definitely not the kind of you know relationship. It's just

3250
02:59:27,239 --> 02:59:29,760
like Scott Hall's relationship with his dad, you know, hot

3251
02:59:29,840 --> 02:59:32,920
shit army father, who he had a fair degree of

3252
02:59:32,959 --> 02:59:36,520
distance from, you know, and didn't really know all that well.

3253
02:59:37,840 --> 02:59:40,200
And so he gets to talking and he's going through

3254
02:59:40,239 --> 02:59:42,399
his career and at one point he takes us back

3255
02:59:42,440 --> 02:59:45,840
to Japan where he wrestled very briefly as Vicious Machine.

3256
02:59:45,840 --> 02:59:48,360
You remember this where he came in worked for Jinami

3257
02:59:48,399 --> 02:59:50,879
and Anoki and stuff, And my god, does he have

3258
02:59:50,959 --> 02:59:54,000
a whopper of a story that we have. The podcast

3259
02:59:54,120 --> 02:59:56,520
he launched in twenty twenty one, I believe it was

3260
02:59:57,159 --> 02:59:57,719
to thank for.

3261
03:00:00,040 --> 03:00:15,639
Speaker 1: Sling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys need

3262
03:00:15,719 --> 03:00:33,760
their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's the Lapsed Fan

3263
03:00:33,840 --> 03:00:38,079
wrestling podcast with Jack and carn Seo m JP Soro.

3264
03:00:38,840 --> 03:00:41,520
Speaker 14: I love Japan though, man, it was it was fun.

3265
03:00:41,520 --> 03:00:44,360
The only thing is you were over there, you were starving.

3266
03:00:44,440 --> 03:00:44,680
Speaker 11: I was.

3267
03:00:44,799 --> 03:00:49,079
Speaker 14: I took her big duffer bag of Danna sausages and

3268
03:00:49,559 --> 03:00:54,479
oh my god, chicken, devil hand chicken, devil chicken, all

3269
03:00:54,520 --> 03:00:57,280
that crappy stuff. Now the Vienna sausages. Will I go

3270
03:00:57,520 --> 03:00:59,840
to the Japanese. They take me out and feed me

3271
03:01:00,000 --> 03:01:05,000
all night. You come back, go, yeah, sausage, you want

3272
03:01:05,000 --> 03:01:05,559
to silence?

3273
03:01:08,600 --> 03:01:12,360
Speaker 6: He took the Viennas to Japan. The Viennas weren't just

3274
03:01:12,440 --> 03:01:14,559
a thing that the church got him into.

3275
03:01:15,639 --> 03:01:17,920
Speaker 2: They were they were what he needed to survive. Was

3276
03:01:17,959 --> 03:01:21,079
popping tops and the lady's intel. Can you imagine like

3277
03:01:21,200 --> 03:01:24,280
he's on a fucking plane, all right. You know, you're

3278
03:01:24,280 --> 03:01:30,079
sitting on a plane opposite this fucking behemoth, all right,

3279
03:01:30,280 --> 03:01:32,479
Like you're in the aisle and you're across the Offerman

3280
03:01:34,000 --> 03:01:35,879
and you know, he's just kind of like sitting there.

3281
03:01:36,000 --> 03:01:37,520
Number one, He's just sitting there. He does not have

3282
03:01:37,680 --> 03:01:44,920
any sort of entertainment, doesn't read, watch a movie, all right,

3283
03:01:45,239 --> 03:01:52,120
He just plaid shirt, yep, tugs in the jeans, baseball hat,

3284
03:01:52,920 --> 03:01:56,639
seat belt. He just sits there, seated like he's in restraints,

3285
03:01:57,200 --> 03:02:00,680
right and just staring ahead and not moving at all.

3286
03:02:04,799 --> 03:02:06,959
All right. Now, if you're sitting up on the opposite

3287
03:02:06,959 --> 03:02:08,719
aisle of him, like you keep looking over there and

3288
03:02:08,799 --> 03:02:12,639
you're you're obviously getting nervous, and so it's got to

3289
03:02:12,719 --> 03:02:16,120
be alarming when he finally makes the move to reach

3290
03:02:16,239 --> 03:02:20,559
down into his his his uh uh, you know, his

3291
03:02:20,719 --> 03:02:22,520
bag whatever you call it, the carry on and the

3292
03:02:22,559 --> 03:02:26,200
what personal personal bag, and you're like what the fuck?

3293
03:02:26,840 --> 03:02:28,680
You know, you're probably thinking he's gonna grab, like get

3294
03:02:28,719 --> 03:02:30,559
a bomb or a gun or something that was able

3295
03:02:30,600 --> 03:02:33,799
to smuggle on, but instead he pulls out a tiny

3296
03:02:34,159 --> 03:02:41,280
fucking can of Vienna sausages, fucking takes the key tab,

3297
03:02:42,479 --> 03:02:45,360
opens it up and you can, you know, and right

3298
03:02:45,479 --> 03:02:48,120
then there's a little bit of turbulence, so some of

3299
03:02:48,200 --> 03:02:52,760
the juice like flies out onto his tray, onto his uh,

3300
03:02:52,920 --> 03:02:56,760
you know, and so this is a little bit messed there.

3301
03:02:56,760 --> 03:02:58,920
And then he like he just takes his middle finger

3302
03:02:58,959 --> 03:03:03,920
and just wipes it off and licks his fingers and

3303
03:03:04,079 --> 03:03:07,799
then starts just putting his finger in the can and

3304
03:03:07,920 --> 03:03:17,120
taking out sausages and eating them. And that's what he does.

3305
03:03:17,200 --> 03:03:22,920
Like just you watch him because you can't not watch this, this, this,

3306
03:03:23,200 --> 03:03:30,040
this this complete ogre. You can't not watch him eat

3307
03:03:30,159 --> 03:03:35,360
these tiny little fucking penis sausages. That's what he does.

3308
03:03:37,000 --> 03:03:41,360
You watch him. And then when he's done, they come

3309
03:03:41,440 --> 03:03:43,520
over and you know, they're like, get your trash, any

3310
03:03:43,600 --> 03:03:46,120
trash you just puts it in there, and then he

3311
03:03:46,159 --> 03:03:54,920
goes back to sitting completely still horrifying, absolutely horrifying. Also

3312
03:03:55,040 --> 03:04:00,159
watching him eat worthy the Japanese. I guess so, oh,

3313
03:04:00,280 --> 03:04:04,879
I guess they're all. CID's coming. Oh, Vienna's in the hotel.

3314
03:04:05,159 --> 03:04:07,319
We got Vienna's a wrestler state.

3315
03:04:07,399 --> 03:04:09,559
Speaker 6: It wasn't just Vienna. It's coming to find out. Sid

3316
03:04:09,719 --> 03:04:12,079
realized that if he ate some of this low grade food,

3317
03:04:12,159 --> 03:04:15,440
in front of the Japanese as a wrestling superstar. They

3318
03:04:15,479 --> 03:04:18,120
would take it quite personally and see do it that

3319
03:04:18,239 --> 03:04:20,799
Sid was fed some of the finer foods Japan.

3320
03:04:20,600 --> 03:04:23,040
Speaker 2: Had to offer. God, and oh my god, let me.

3321
03:04:23,040 --> 03:04:25,920
Speaker 6: Tell you, boss, it doesn't take very many cycles for

3322
03:04:26,040 --> 03:04:27,280
Sid to realize that trick.

3323
03:04:27,600 --> 03:04:29,559
Speaker 2: I'm staying Toyo.

3324
03:04:31,680 --> 03:04:35,520
Speaker 14: Tokyo Plaza, I think it was named hotel, and there's

3325
03:04:35,520 --> 03:04:38,200
where all the dignitaries were staying. And so I was,

3326
03:04:38,639 --> 03:04:40,399
you know, in the lobby, and every time I stood up,

3327
03:04:40,520 --> 03:04:41,959
everybody reached over to point.

3328
03:04:41,799 --> 03:04:46,920
Speaker 2: A gun at me. Now tell my star know there

3329
03:04:47,000 --> 03:04:47,319
we were.

3330
03:04:47,799 --> 03:04:49,520
Speaker 14: I mean, I just couldn't afford to eat that kind

3331
03:04:49,520 --> 03:04:51,520
of food. I'm trying to take every penny home with me,

3332
03:04:52,200 --> 03:04:55,000
and so I lost minisult white, and so I'd go

3333
03:04:55,079 --> 03:04:56,959
to the store and get me some peanut butter with

3334
03:04:57,079 --> 03:05:00,639
a new bananas and brand. I'd go down Bobby ate

3335
03:05:00,719 --> 03:05:03,079
these things that it was a big insult to the promoters.

3336
03:05:03,920 --> 03:05:06,319
First they see you lives in white. Then the fans

3337
03:05:06,319 --> 03:05:09,479
see me in the hotel, you know, peanut butter sandwiches,

3338
03:05:09,760 --> 03:05:11,559
so they'd get real upset, and they all take me

3339
03:05:11,600 --> 03:05:12,479
out to eat every night.

3340
03:05:13,000 --> 03:05:14,680
Speaker 2: And I took advantage of that. Man.

3341
03:05:15,280 --> 03:05:17,719
Speaker 14: I've talked about being an opportunitist, right, well, I did.

3342
03:05:17,840 --> 03:05:20,799
When I realized that work. I did that every chance

3343
03:05:20,879 --> 03:05:21,239
I could.

3344
03:05:21,399 --> 03:05:26,920
Speaker 6: Man Sid sitting in the lobby of the hotel making

3345
03:05:27,000 --> 03:05:29,440
a show out of his peanut butter and banana sandwich,

3346
03:05:30,559 --> 03:05:34,440
knowing that it would hustle him another free, high class meal.

3347
03:05:35,440 --> 03:05:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't see any problem with that. Gods how to

3348
03:05:39,079 --> 03:05:39,680
work the system.

3349
03:05:41,639 --> 03:05:45,680
Speaker 6: August twenty sixth, twenty twenty four, it is with heavy

3350
03:05:45,719 --> 03:05:50,319
hearts that we announced the passing of Sydney Ray Udi,

3351
03:05:50,799 --> 03:05:54,319
who was born December sixteenth, nineteen sixty in Moses Lake, Washington.

3352
03:05:55,200 --> 03:05:58,399
He passed from this earth on August twenty sixth, peacefully

3353
03:05:58,639 --> 03:06:01,719
at home after a long, private and courageous battle with

3354
03:06:01,799 --> 03:06:06,319
non Hodgkins lymphoma and chronic heart issues. Sid was a

3355
03:06:06,360 --> 03:06:11,000
beloved husband, father, grandfather, son, brother, friend, and mentor. He

3356
03:06:11,159 --> 03:06:14,559
was known for his kindness, humor, generosity in living his

3357
03:06:14,719 --> 03:06:18,680
life on his own terms. Although he traveled the world wrestling,

3358
03:06:18,760 --> 03:06:21,600
his heart was always back home in Arkansas. He was

3359
03:06:21,719 --> 03:06:25,280
especially proud of his three grandchildren, Raylan Udy, Charlotte Udy,

3360
03:06:25,520 --> 03:06:28,920
and Frankie Udy. Who brought immense joy to their pauper's life.

3361
03:06:29,840 --> 03:06:32,079
Sid is survived by his wife, Sabrina, his two sons,

3362
03:06:32,159 --> 03:06:35,520
Frank Udy Ashton of Naples, Florida, and Gunner Udy Kelly

3363
03:06:35,639 --> 03:06:38,799
of Mary in Arkansas. His mother married Joe Howard. His

3364
03:06:38,920 --> 03:06:42,440
sisters Bobby Udy and Margot Udi had several nieces and nephews.

3365
03:06:42,600 --> 03:06:45,959
He is preceded in death by his father Bobby, Joe Udy,

3366
03:06:46,319 --> 03:06:50,159
his sister Christy Houghton, and his aunt Joyce Good. Though

3367
03:06:50,200 --> 03:06:54,079
his presence will be deeply missed, his memory will live

3368
03:06:54,120 --> 03:06:57,200
on in the hearts of all who knew and loved him.

3369
03:06:57,840 --> 03:07:00,280
In honor of Sid's life and legacy, the family kindly

3370
03:07:00,319 --> 03:07:03,920
requests donations be made to a cancer research foundation or

3371
03:07:03,959 --> 03:07:07,959
a heart health charity of your choice. Resting about the cathedral,

3372
03:07:08,559 --> 03:07:11,000
no well, Rest.

3373
03:07:10,799 --> 03:07:11,319
Speaker 2: In peace, Sid.

3374
03:07:11,840 --> 03:07:15,000
Speaker 6: Your battle is over, but your legacy will endure forever.

3375
03:07:16,239 --> 03:07:19,040
Sid was born December sixteenth, Boss, how close are we?

3376
03:07:20,000 --> 03:07:20,879
This may even drop on?

3377
03:07:21,159 --> 03:07:21,360
Speaker 7: Wow?

3378
03:07:21,479 --> 03:07:26,239
Speaker 6: What would have met his birthday? Yep, his son Gunner

3379
03:07:26,559 --> 03:07:28,680
was really the first to break the news. Most in

3380
03:07:28,760 --> 03:07:31,840
wrestling didn't have any idea Sid was even sick, because,

3381
03:07:31,879 --> 03:07:34,440
as we learned, with a leg break. But the health

3382
03:07:34,559 --> 03:07:37,079
is not. But he's not the picture of health. Sid

3383
03:07:37,159 --> 03:07:39,520
has a way of retreating, has a way of hiding,

3384
03:07:39,639 --> 03:07:42,719
as a way of uh seeing to it that others

3385
03:07:42,760 --> 03:07:45,959
don't know what he's going through. But suddenly, his son

3386
03:07:46,000 --> 03:07:49,040
Gunnar took the Facebook and posted the following earlier this year.

3387
03:07:50,360 --> 03:07:52,399
He was known as psycho Sid vicious to the world,

3388
03:07:52,479 --> 03:07:55,639
but to our family, he was simply Popper, the beloved grandfather.

3389
03:07:55,920 --> 03:08:02,719
I'm sorry, what now, popper? Yes, pop popper, like jalapeno popper,

3390
03:08:02,840 --> 03:08:07,840
like how those crowds popped incw there. Sid was diagnosed

3391
03:08:07,879 --> 03:08:17,280
with congest Yeah, they called him hullip. Sid, his father,

3392
03:08:17,440 --> 03:08:20,239
his son wrote, was diagnosed with congestive heart failure in

3393
03:08:20,319 --> 03:08:25,239
twenty sixteen. So during all that time, during those phone

3394
03:08:25,280 --> 03:08:28,959
calls and all that foolishness and everything, heart failure and

3395
03:08:29,239 --> 03:08:32,520
atrial fibrillation better known as aphib ah. Around the same time,

3396
03:08:33,079 --> 03:08:36,120
he was also given a pacemaker. In April twenty twenty one,

3397
03:08:36,159 --> 03:08:39,680
he was diagnosed with stage four non Hodgkins lymphoma, which

3398
03:08:39,760 --> 03:08:43,840
was linked to roundup weed killer. Although he never told

3399
03:08:43,879 --> 03:08:46,280
anyone about his fight against cancer, Sid lived his life

3400
03:08:46,319 --> 03:08:49,799
to the fullest attending the gym, boxing classes, making appearances

3401
03:08:49,840 --> 03:08:51,520
for his fans, and of course te ball games for

3402
03:08:51,600 --> 03:08:54,680
the kids. He passed away peacefully in his bed, leaving

3403
03:08:54,760 --> 03:08:57,959
behind a legacy of strength and determination. I've never met

3404
03:08:57,959 --> 03:08:59,840
anyone with a fraction of the strength as my father.

3405
03:09:00,319 --> 03:09:03,280
He truly was one of a kind. Thanks everyone for

3406
03:09:03,360 --> 03:09:05,959
the uplifting words and love. We definitely feel it. We

3407
03:09:06,040 --> 03:09:09,280
have received thousands of messages and are grateful for every

3408
03:09:09,319 --> 03:09:11,239
one of them. I don't have time to reply, but

3409
03:09:11,319 --> 03:09:13,440
I have to. I have read all of them. Thank you,

3410
03:09:13,719 --> 03:09:18,399
thank you, thank you, Signed Gunner Udy. Among the many

3411
03:09:18,440 --> 03:09:21,840
posts on Facebook reflecting on Sid's life and times, a

3412
03:09:21,879 --> 03:09:23,920
couple stood out. One by someone by the name of

3413
03:09:24,159 --> 03:09:26,200
TJ who wrote the memories I have from the House

3414
03:09:26,280 --> 03:09:29,399
and Marion. The one that sticks out the most is

3415
03:09:29,479 --> 03:09:31,040
being power bombed on the waterbed.

3416
03:09:32,000 --> 03:09:32,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

3417
03:09:34,200 --> 03:09:37,159
Speaker 6: This is one of Sid's former compatriots in the business

3418
03:09:37,639 --> 03:09:40,719
when he did the POB stable in Memphis power pro

3419
03:09:41,079 --> 03:09:44,280
between his wwfront and coming into WW in nineteen ninety nine.

3420
03:09:44,840 --> 03:09:47,159
By the way, shout out to the homie David Caminister,

3421
03:09:47,200 --> 03:09:49,000
who's able to find out that POB and the promotion

3422
03:09:49,079 --> 03:09:52,959
stood for pride of brotherhood, scintillating stuff.

3423
03:09:53,799 --> 03:09:55,360
Speaker 2: That was the name of the wild.

3424
03:09:55,479 --> 03:09:57,719
Speaker 6: We didn't know exactly what to call him. And there

3425
03:09:57,799 --> 03:09:59,719
was a wrestler in that stable along with Sid called

3426
03:09:59,719 --> 03:10:04,239
Stunt or Stumpy, who owns a barbecue restaurant not too

3427
03:10:04,280 --> 03:10:07,520
far from where Sid grew up and passed, called Stumpy's

3428
03:10:07,520 --> 03:10:10,799
Backyard Barbecue. And after Sid had a memorial service in

3429
03:10:10,840 --> 03:10:15,040
his hometown, Stumpy took to Facebook, it's been a whole

3430
03:10:15,120 --> 03:10:18,239
day since we laid you to rest, celebrated your life

3431
03:10:18,280 --> 03:10:20,719
here on earth, and paid our respects. You would have

3432
03:10:20,799 --> 03:10:21,680
been proud of your boys.

3433
03:10:21,879 --> 03:10:22,520
Speaker 2: I know I was.

3434
03:10:23,079 --> 03:10:25,639
Speaker 6: Frank gave an eloquent eulogy, and it's apparent he shares

3435
03:10:25,680 --> 03:10:27,959
your gift of telling stories that puts the listener back

3436
03:10:28,000 --> 03:10:30,799
in time. Gunner kept us all in line and made

3437
03:10:30,840 --> 03:10:33,559
sure everything was arranged perfectly. Obviously skills of yours he

3438
03:10:33,639 --> 03:10:36,680
shares Sid. You and I not only became friends and

3439
03:10:36,680 --> 03:10:39,799
wrestling partners, we became family. Part of being family is

3440
03:10:39,840 --> 03:10:41,559
we may not have always seen eye to eye, and

3441
03:10:41,680 --> 03:10:44,000
sometimes our pride got us, but we never failed to

3442
03:10:44,000 --> 03:10:45,959
come back around, check in and see each other for

3443
03:10:46,040 --> 03:10:46,760
who we really were.

3444
03:10:46,959 --> 03:10:55,959
Speaker 2: Brothers. Time flew by fat What it's a brother? What

3445
03:11:01,840 --> 03:11:26,760
who Stumpy did? Wait, don't begin to push this tribute

3446
03:11:27,040 --> 03:11:31,319
to his wrestle Bady, a opponent horrified.

3447
03:11:33,959 --> 03:11:36,079
Speaker 6: Help did do an interview with I think a barstool

3448
03:11:36,120 --> 03:11:38,559
podcast where he said I got along great with Suit,

3449
03:11:38,600 --> 03:11:39,920
I mean in the ring. The one thing I can

3450
03:11:39,920 --> 03:11:41,280
say about said is he took care of you. He

3451
03:11:41,399 --> 03:11:43,159
never hurt me in the ring. And then they said, yeah,

3452
03:11:43,200 --> 03:11:45,399
but he was critical of you in some shooting interviews, Hogan.

3453
03:11:45,799 --> 03:11:51,239
One thing that kind of cast me off guard is

3454
03:11:51,280 --> 03:11:53,000
all these guys, and there's several of them, not just

3455
03:11:53,079 --> 03:11:55,120
pointing out Sid, all these guys that I've worked with,

3456
03:11:55,319 --> 03:11:56,840
and all these guys that have done business with, all

3457
03:11:56,879 --> 03:11:58,719
of a sudden, in the twilight of their career, when

3458
03:11:58,760 --> 03:12:01,239
they're done, they do these shooting Hulk didn't know anything

3459
03:12:01,239 --> 03:12:03,200
about the wrestling business, or Hulk was an asshole, And

3460
03:12:03,280 --> 03:12:04,920
I'm like, man, I had no idea that we.

3461
03:12:04,959 --> 03:12:07,399
Speaker 2: Felt like this. Sid did some of that towards the end,

3462
03:12:07,440 --> 03:12:09,879
but I would have never hold it against him because

3463
03:12:09,920 --> 03:12:15,399
I love Sid. Brother. Wow, No, I don't, but about

3464
03:12:15,399 --> 03:12:19,399
the Sid, dude, I'm just saying, Brother, you know, I

3465
03:12:19,479 --> 03:12:21,159
thought I knew one thing, and this is a problem

3466
03:12:21,200 --> 03:12:23,799
with the whole. You know exactly with everything?

3467
03:12:23,879 --> 03:12:24,079
Speaker 7: Dude.

3468
03:12:24,120 --> 03:12:26,200
Speaker 2: You know, I know I knew one thing, but I

3469
03:12:26,239 --> 03:12:29,239
don't know everything. And if I don't know everything, then

3470
03:12:29,479 --> 03:12:33,520
something's amiss. Brother. And can I ask you a question, Hulk?

3471
03:12:33,639 --> 03:12:36,520
When will you know if this is your last match?

3472
03:12:39,479 --> 03:12:41,079
I just won't know until I got out of the ring.

3473
03:12:42,159 --> 03:12:45,120
Speaker 6: Time flew By Stump wrote faster than any of us

3474
03:12:45,159 --> 03:12:47,799
could imagine. The kids fishing in your pond, or their

3475
03:12:47,840 --> 03:12:51,879
punishments for bad behavior of cleaning the pond. Frank cleaned

3476
03:12:51,920 --> 03:12:56,639
the pond, digging fishing worms under the old tailgate. The

3477
03:12:56,719 --> 03:12:59,520
Bible stories you gave them that applied to life today.

3478
03:12:59,600 --> 03:13:02,799
The louder than thunder laugh when they would actually.

3479
03:13:02,680 --> 03:13:07,440
Speaker 2: Silly with you. The hot padise the hot rolls at Lambert's.

3480
03:13:13,879 --> 03:13:17,120
Sit into it a hot roll, dowb I mean, we know,

3481
03:13:17,239 --> 03:13:20,280
damn well, get a picture like okay, the tablecloth is

3482
03:13:20,399 --> 03:13:24,239
like red and white checkered, right, oh yes, yes, and

3483
03:13:24,959 --> 03:13:27,959
so is the the napkin that holds the biscuits inside

3484
03:13:28,000 --> 03:13:34,239
the basket. And he like unfolds the the the linen covering,

3485
03:13:34,600 --> 03:13:36,920
and he peels a biscuit open and and and you

3486
03:13:37,000 --> 03:13:40,280
can see the steam and like the sunlight that's coming

3487
03:13:40,360 --> 03:13:44,200
in the room of where he's enjoying the hot roll.

3488
03:13:44,959 --> 03:13:51,680
Yeah again, loan at a table, all right, alone at

3489
03:13:51,719 --> 03:13:52,120
a table.

3490
03:13:52,840 --> 03:13:56,040
Speaker 6: Many memories with my kids and more than that, they'll

3491
03:13:56,079 --> 03:13:58,479
never forget the days and hour spent with you at

3492
03:13:58,520 --> 03:14:03,959
the gym and the Chinese fa afterwards, hours of listening practice,

3493
03:14:04,000 --> 03:14:06,600
going over our next show, the hours in the ring together, Vick.

3494
03:14:07,120 --> 03:14:13,200
Speaker 2: There's nothing like, you know, complimenting a good workout with

3495
03:14:13,479 --> 03:14:18,079
Chinese buffet, listening practice, going over our next show, the

3496
03:14:18,159 --> 03:14:20,760
hours in the ring together, the unforgettable trips out of town.

3497
03:14:20,879 --> 03:14:22,760
The pob will always live on and we will never

3498
03:14:22,840 --> 03:14:26,399
forget rip. Well done, my friend, Sid, Udy said Vicious

3499
03:14:26,399 --> 03:14:29,120
Psycho Sid, Sid Justice, my friend, my brother until we

3500
03:14:29,239 --> 03:14:34,200
meet again, Pride of brotherhood, Love Stump. Interestingly, there was

3501
03:14:34,239 --> 03:14:35,879
a billboard that went up not too long ago a

3502
03:14:36,000 --> 03:14:38,360
Times Square or around Times Square where a hip hop

3503
03:14:38,440 --> 03:14:40,520
artists by the name of West Side Gun just put

3504
03:14:40,559 --> 03:14:42,920
out an album called Still Praying, and the cover for

3505
03:14:43,000 --> 03:14:45,600
the project is just a picture of Sid in the ring.

3506
03:14:45,760 --> 03:14:50,879
Oh my god, Doriga's career, just standing there, you know,

3507
03:14:51,120 --> 03:14:55,239
with a Bental advisory explicit lyrics thing right up on it.

3508
03:14:56,280 --> 03:15:03,079
It's something to see. That's wild. As for.

3509
03:15:04,680 --> 03:15:09,360
Speaker 6: You know, the family that Sid left behind, it's it's interesting.

3510
03:15:09,440 --> 03:15:12,200
You know, we talk about softball, and we joke about softball, and.

3511
03:15:14,120 --> 03:15:14,840
Speaker 2: It is a joke.

3512
03:15:15,600 --> 03:15:19,479
Speaker 6: I think we've established that the way he talked, the

3513
03:15:19,559 --> 03:15:23,520
way it factored into his life story and his wrestling

3514
03:15:23,600 --> 03:15:27,040
story is is hilarious but boss some. But then you

3515
03:15:27,120 --> 03:15:29,280
come across a picture like the one I just sent you,

3516
03:15:31,040 --> 03:15:34,639
Sid looking through the fence at a little league field

3517
03:15:35,280 --> 03:15:37,079
with I can only supposed to be as one of

3518
03:15:37,120 --> 03:15:40,639
his grandchildren, and he's wearing the exact shirt you talked about, Yep.

3519
03:15:40,719 --> 03:15:46,639
Speaker 2: Exactly, He's worried a fucking plaid shirt. You know, I

3520
03:15:46,719 --> 03:15:49,319
bet that's you know, I bet I bet he doesn't

3521
03:15:49,360 --> 03:15:54,719
know who that kid is. Yeah, smiling down nick, random kid, Right,

3522
03:15:54,799 --> 03:15:59,559
you're probably right. You don't play softball. You won't know

3523
03:15:59,680 --> 03:16:08,239
something kid once. He's real, simple, ah amn is real.

3524
03:16:12,440 --> 03:16:13,879
Speaker 6: And I think in a lot of ways, the guy

3525
03:16:14,000 --> 03:16:17,200
that shattered him his entire career in a lot of

3526
03:16:17,239 --> 03:16:20,760
ways and shared the ring with him. Connective tissue from

3527
03:16:21,200 --> 03:16:24,399
the earliest WCW days and the skyscrapers through to the

3528
03:16:24,559 --> 03:16:27,280
WWF and the top of the WWF, all the way

3529
03:16:27,360 --> 03:16:31,600
through into Sid's WCW Return the guy he probably headlined

3530
03:16:31,639 --> 03:16:34,239
with more than anybody and swapped more titles with Kevin

3531
03:16:34,280 --> 03:16:37,639
Nash himself put it this way visav Softball and VISA

3532
03:16:37,680 --> 03:16:40,319
V Life reflecting on the passing of Sid on this podcast.

3533
03:16:40,840 --> 03:16:45,760
Speaker 13: Obviously he's right, he's he's passed on at sixty three

3534
03:16:45,799 --> 03:16:50,760
years old. He didn't miss those fucking softball games. He

3535
03:16:50,840 --> 03:16:52,639
went and did it what the fuck he wanted to do,

3536
03:16:53,399 --> 03:16:56,280
because when he was forty years old, fucking they wanted

3537
03:16:56,280 --> 03:16:58,799
to push him, and he said, I'm in the middle

3538
03:16:58,840 --> 03:17:01,719
of a tournament right now, and they all said, oh,

3539
03:17:01,799 --> 03:17:04,680
Sid don't know what the fuck he's doing. Well, when

3540
03:17:04,719 --> 03:17:07,159
Sid got brain cancer, he fucking I guarantee you if

3541
03:17:07,319 --> 03:17:10,920
I said, said, I am so fucking glad that I

3542
03:17:11,000 --> 03:17:13,360
didn't have these motherfuckers, glad.

3543
03:17:13,120 --> 03:17:16,440
Speaker 2: I took that that I took, my time, took my

3544
03:17:16,600 --> 03:17:24,440
fucker did it his way, right, It's true. Yeah, yeah,

3545
03:17:25,639 --> 03:17:28,600
there is some truth in that, no question. And we

3546
03:17:28,719 --> 03:17:29,399
know Sid.

3547
03:17:31,280 --> 03:17:33,079
Speaker 6: In his own way found God as a man who

3548
03:17:33,159 --> 03:17:36,159
self admittedly never went to church, did not interestingly enough,

3549
03:17:36,200 --> 03:17:37,680
considered the part of the country he grew up in,

3550
03:17:37,879 --> 03:17:40,360
and how conversing he seemed to be in that Israel

3551
03:17:40,479 --> 03:17:46,959
promo about Biblical verses and Pentecostal and Episcopalian denominations and using,

3552
03:17:47,399 --> 03:17:50,559
you know, his understanding of religion to get heat, not

3553
03:17:50,719 --> 03:17:55,479
somebody who was who's very, very church going. But we

3554
03:17:55,639 --> 03:17:59,559
know that eventually he found Saint Mary's Cathedral in Memphis,

3555
03:18:00,799 --> 03:18:04,520
he found the weekly pop top lunches. And I don't

3556
03:18:04,559 --> 03:18:07,360
know what to say other than for the last several

3557
03:18:07,440 --> 03:18:09,840
years of his life, there was a little more on

3558
03:18:09,959 --> 03:18:15,040
his mind than this church, in this meal program that

3559
03:18:15,760 --> 03:18:18,600
he found for for for the homeless and less fortunate

3560
03:18:18,639 --> 03:18:21,280
in Memphis. And I thought, in the spirit of that,

3561
03:18:21,319 --> 03:18:26,559
I'd put together a little final ode to a love

3562
03:18:26,639 --> 03:18:28,840
story the likes of which we never expected to uncover

3563
03:18:28,920 --> 03:18:34,799
here on our tribute to sid mister Judy's affection, bond

3564
03:18:35,120 --> 03:18:37,959
and holy matrimony the Viginnas.

3565
03:18:40,639 --> 03:18:43,559
Speaker 10: He sent my church a case of Vienna sausages, and

3566
03:18:43,680 --> 03:18:48,920
I sent him an autograph picture. I'm not saying I'm

3567
03:18:48,920 --> 03:18:49,600
a Christian, but I.

3568
03:18:49,680 --> 03:18:52,680
Speaker 11: Do go to church and into things I like.

3569
03:18:52,799 --> 03:18:54,440
Speaker 7: During Saturday mornings, we go over there.

3570
03:18:55,200 --> 03:18:56,680
Speaker 2: It's called pop tops.

3571
03:18:57,879 --> 03:18:58,639
Speaker 7: To about nine.

3572
03:18:58,600 --> 03:18:59,520
Speaker 26: Thirty weeks with them.

3573
03:19:00,120 --> 03:19:02,799
Speaker 11: I'm bag the bags, got your kids being the sausages

3574
03:19:02,840 --> 03:19:04,319
and pack the packers a.

3575
03:19:04,399 --> 03:19:06,520
Speaker 7: Moon town, a bottle of water, and they did a.

3576
03:19:06,479 --> 03:19:08,239
Speaker 2: Little bag of ladies or something.

3577
03:19:08,680 --> 03:19:11,200
Speaker 26: I think you out about either one hundred hundred of

3578
03:19:11,239 --> 03:19:18,799
those every Saturday, and if just in case, uh, there's

3579
03:19:18,840 --> 03:19:20,639
a there's a big fan of virus robb out there.

3580
03:19:20,639 --> 03:19:21,360
Speaker 13: His name is Joe.

3581
03:19:21,479 --> 03:19:23,360
Speaker 15: I don't remember his last name.

3582
03:19:23,479 --> 03:19:27,719
Speaker 14: But he actually sent some either some Deanna sausages for

3583
03:19:27,840 --> 03:19:30,959
my charity or he sent some vitamins for my charity,

3584
03:19:31,239 --> 03:19:32,079
children's vitamins.

3585
03:19:32,239 --> 03:19:32,920
Speaker 13: Oh really, and he.

3586
03:19:32,959 --> 03:19:35,319
Speaker 14: Calls me all the times and bugs eat Pete, bugs

3587
03:19:35,360 --> 03:19:38,760
the ship out of me. But he's he's uh, he

3588
03:19:38,840 --> 03:19:43,159
moves from Washington. He's running away from the coronavirus. He

3589
03:19:43,280 --> 03:19:45,479
moved to Indianapolis outside of there and started he works

3590
03:19:45,520 --> 03:19:48,000
Worth casino and all of a sudden, now he's laid off.

3591
03:19:48,079 --> 03:19:49,879
You know, he's trying to move to my house. Joe,

3592
03:19:50,520 --> 03:20:02,120
you can't come here. Who's the deacon who? Again, he

3593
03:20:02,239 --> 03:20:04,600
doesn't get paid, never been paid, ten or twenty years.

3594
03:20:04,639 --> 03:20:06,600
He's been there af forget how long. But he's given

3595
03:20:06,639 --> 03:20:08,760
over two hundred and fifty thousand cans of Viennas over

3596
03:20:08,799 --> 03:20:18,280
the last ten years or so, that maybe in the

3597
03:20:18,360 --> 03:20:20,440
future we might all try to get the other together

3598
03:20:20,520 --> 03:20:23,760
and make a little drive sensivienna sausages or something like that.

3599
03:20:24,280 --> 03:20:24,399
Speaker 19: You know.

3600
03:20:24,440 --> 03:20:27,440
Speaker 14: I used to tell people to send Vienna's to them

3601
03:20:28,159 --> 03:20:29,840
because I didn't want to be in the middle. I

3602
03:20:29,879 --> 03:20:32,440
didn't want to receive money and nothing. But talking to

3603
03:20:32,520 --> 03:20:34,399
Drew about one of the things we could do, and

3604
03:20:34,479 --> 03:20:35,719
I don't what do you want to do it right now?

3605
03:20:35,879 --> 03:20:40,200
Till we get, you know, find more about it. That

3606
03:20:40,319 --> 03:20:42,760
we can send it to Saint Mary's Cathedral, to.

3607
03:20:42,840 --> 03:20:50,399
Speaker 22: The church under under Drew woods Woodruff under discretionary funds,

3608
03:20:50,959 --> 03:20:53,120
and he could use that because we're able to go

3609
03:20:53,239 --> 03:20:56,000
now to what's called the food things, and we're instead

3610
03:20:56,000 --> 03:20:58,559
of paying forty to fifty cents acand of Vienna's, we're

3611
03:20:58,600 --> 03:21:01,120
able to pay a pen times for them if they

3612
03:21:01,200 --> 03:21:03,120
have them, you know, because you buy it by the pound.

3613
03:21:10,040 --> 03:21:12,000
Speaker 2: It's pretty tough to to someone know they can't have

3614
03:21:12,079 --> 03:21:20,399
a Canavannas? All right?

3615
03:21:20,479 --> 03:21:20,600
Speaker 15: Is it?

3616
03:21:20,760 --> 03:21:21,920
Speaker 14: Any last words?

3617
03:21:22,959 --> 03:21:23,000
Speaker 7: No?

3618
03:21:23,360 --> 03:21:26,280
Speaker 14: I just want everyone to that are interested for this

3619
03:21:26,520 --> 03:21:28,360
is you know, the new year, and let's I'll keep

3620
03:21:28,399 --> 03:21:31,399
ourselves with that thought in mind, and let's try to

3621
03:21:31,440 --> 03:21:33,319
do more positive things. I do want to say something

3622
03:21:33,319 --> 03:21:37,319
real quick too. I'm not sure. One day this month,

3623
03:21:37,360 --> 03:21:40,040
I'm going to be doing a radio broadcast with the

3624
03:21:40,360 --> 03:21:42,399
bishop of our church, and they're going to talk about

3625
03:21:43,559 --> 03:21:46,040
what we do on Wednesdays and Saturday mornings is called

3626
03:21:46,079 --> 03:21:49,479
pop tops. The pop top means exactly that it's either

3627
03:21:49,520 --> 03:21:52,040
a Canaviannas or a Canna tuna or a spam or

3628
03:21:52,120 --> 03:21:55,159
something like that. We put in a bag, pack of crackers,

3629
03:21:55,520 --> 03:21:59,440
a bottle of water, h maybe a moon pie, bag

3630
03:21:59,520 --> 03:22:02,200
of raising. That's what we give to people that, you know,

3631
03:22:02,840 --> 03:22:05,079
you know, homeless. I don't like to use the word homeless.

3632
03:22:05,680 --> 03:22:07,799
We like to say the ones that are miss unfortunate.

3633
03:22:07,920 --> 03:22:18,719
Speaker 2: Right now, I think we all hope, boss, that we

3634
03:22:18,799 --> 03:22:26,479
can find our own can of Viennas, don't we. I mean,

3635
03:22:26,520 --> 03:22:27,479
that's that's the dream.

3636
03:22:34,360 --> 03:22:41,280
Speaker 19: N know.

3637
03:22:43,639 --> 03:22:45,920
Speaker 2: I had it on. I had you know, my mute

3638
03:22:45,920 --> 03:22:48,120
button on because I just want to let that play out.

3639
03:22:48,200 --> 03:22:54,600
But I was hurting, hurting every time he fucking talked

3640
03:22:54,600 --> 03:23:04,079
about Vienna's. I mean, what the fuck, hosages?

3641
03:23:09,520 --> 03:23:12,079
Speaker 6: I didn't expect when we launched our tribute to Sid,

3642
03:23:12,639 --> 03:23:14,399
after all the memories he gave us in the ring

3643
03:23:15,079 --> 03:23:17,559
and then being so formative during the Galory days, the

3644
03:23:17,639 --> 03:23:24,000
Golden era, the Hasbro era, that after tribute and serenading

3645
03:23:24,360 --> 03:23:27,040
that another gift he would give us is we can

3646
03:23:27,120 --> 03:23:30,040
never look at a can of Vienna's on a shelf

3647
03:23:30,120 --> 03:23:33,920
and a family dollar the same again. I'm gonna think

3648
03:23:33,959 --> 03:23:38,680
of this man whenever I see any canned meet for

3649
03:23:38,799 --> 03:23:43,239
the rest of my life. And a possession that Sid

3650
03:23:44,520 --> 03:23:47,840
valued towards his final days and his twilight, and a

3651
03:23:47,879 --> 03:23:49,559
lot of people didn't know was his twilight when he

3652
03:23:49,680 --> 03:23:53,159
was doing things like this, but it was was get

3653
03:23:53,200 --> 03:23:56,920
his hands on another tractor, said in his podcast, you

3654
03:23:57,000 --> 03:24:01,200
know the other day, got a tractor. Got that gonna

3655
03:24:01,280 --> 03:24:06,600
landscaping business pretty much, it's just tractors doing a lot

3656
03:24:06,639 --> 03:24:10,040
of bush hogging. And said also got him some commercial

3657
03:24:10,079 --> 03:24:11,520
property and residential property.

3658
03:24:11,799 --> 03:24:16,159
Speaker 2: Got a good crew. You know, before he got into wrestling,

3659
03:24:16,920 --> 03:24:17,680
he was a farmer.

3660
03:24:18,840 --> 03:24:21,399
Speaker 6: He would walk with his childhood friend and follow the

3661
03:24:21,479 --> 03:24:23,319
railroad tracks and hunt their way all the way to

3662
03:24:23,360 --> 03:24:27,479
the Mississippian back and it'spent hours and hours and hours

3663
03:24:27,520 --> 03:24:30,520
in the brush and the fields and the planes and

3664
03:24:30,559 --> 03:24:34,559
all the rest, and he went through to years as

3665
03:24:34,680 --> 03:24:39,680
a chemical salesman in the agricultural business, cited all those

3666
03:24:39,719 --> 03:24:42,600
years later as perhaps a contributing cause of his cancer.

3667
03:24:43,680 --> 03:24:47,319
But for said, you know, even if it ironically wasn't

3668
03:24:47,319 --> 03:24:49,440
the wrestling business that got him, though it certainly did

3669
03:24:49,520 --> 03:24:52,440
him in if it was in fact the other career,

3670
03:24:52,680 --> 03:24:57,680
the parallel life he led, the Bucolic farm life that

3671
03:24:57,760 --> 03:25:02,120
he led his true north after all of a sudden,

3672
03:25:02,200 --> 03:25:03,319
done nothing.

3673
03:25:03,079 --> 03:25:03,479
Speaker 7: Better for me.

3674
03:25:03,559 --> 03:25:05,959
Speaker 15: In the morning, get it at three thirty, go to

3675
03:25:06,040 --> 03:25:09,040
the gym, be home by six thirty, and be on

3676
03:25:09,159 --> 03:25:11,760
my tractor heading to the field about six forty five.

3677
03:25:12,479 --> 03:25:14,000
That to me was one of the greatest feelings of

3678
03:25:14,000 --> 03:25:16,120
the world. Is already had half a day by me,

3679
03:25:16,479 --> 03:25:18,879
and as sun rises and I'm going out there and

3680
03:25:19,000 --> 03:25:21,000
I'm starting the second part of my day at six

3681
03:25:21,159 --> 03:25:23,479
thirty when everybody else is still asleep. And that's what

3682
03:25:23,600 --> 03:25:25,719
you get as a farmer. It's that kind of gratification.

3683
03:25:26,319 --> 03:25:28,520
And I love those days like that, you know. I

3684
03:25:28,600 --> 03:25:31,280
love being out in the field like that. And it's

3685
03:25:31,319 --> 03:25:32,639
been a lot of fun doing that, you.

3686
03:25:32,680 --> 03:25:33,079
Speaker 2: Know, Boss.

3687
03:25:33,159 --> 03:25:35,159
Speaker 6: We started this TLF tribute to Sid, who in so

3688
03:25:35,239 --> 03:25:39,000
many ways is his tlfx's at Cats Good Story couldn't

3689
03:25:39,760 --> 03:25:43,239
be a better fit to enter our tenth year of podcasting.

3690
03:25:44,120 --> 03:25:46,559
We started this wondering how this man was able to

3691
03:25:46,639 --> 03:25:48,719
go around for so many years saying I am the

3692
03:25:48,879 --> 03:25:52,040
Master and the Ruler of the world. Yes, and no

3693
03:25:52,079 --> 03:25:54,280
one batter Dean I. No one let out a chuckle.

3694
03:25:54,680 --> 03:25:57,120
No one seemed to think that the phrase, despite being

3695
03:25:57,239 --> 03:26:01,879
patently absurd, strain credulity all after taking stock of his

3696
03:26:02,000 --> 03:26:04,799
life and times. Maybe the reason, Boss, I think I

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got it that it never seemed like a stretch for

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Sid to claim that he was the Master and the

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ruler of the world. Maybe it was because he was

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in his own world all along, And in the final analysis,

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it seems everyone was grateful for the time that they

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got to spend in it with him.

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Speaker 1: Leading announcement as a teach to Santus Production its contents

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is intended for private use only.