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single Wednesday on the show doc What's going On?
Speaker 5: How We Doing? How We Living? Living? Great?
Speaker 4: Better than Max Crosby evidently failed as physical so hurt
the most hurt the cowboys. By the way, A little
update before you get into that portion of it. The
Cowboys are not expected to re engage in Max Crosby
trade discussions.
Speaker 5: They say, we have moved on with Rashaun.
Speaker 4: Gary and we are not getting back into the same
talks that we were in classic negotiations.
Speaker 2: Make him think you're not interested.
Speaker 6: Said the same talks. I didn't say any talks.
Speaker 2: That's true, the same talks.
Speaker 6: Might be talking a little lower value. Yeah, it's fair
in a fourth round pick.
Speaker 5: So Doc, you might look at my knee different than
Flynn would.
Speaker 4: Look at my knee if he was a doctor, I know,
funny enough, there's no shot.
Speaker 2: But if he was friends of the family, brothers doctor,
that's true.
Speaker 5: So we know this.
Speaker 2: You know, doctor's gonna have different opinions.
Speaker 4: And look, when you're the guy who is checking out
somebody that is two first round picks leaving your building
to come in, you're going to be pretty thorough in
your examination. How bad does it have to be though,
for you to go back to a team think and
be like, hey, we can't do this if that is
in fact, if it is a failed physical which they
knew he was hurt coming in, Like, how bad do
you think it has to be for you to go
back to the team and say, hey, guys, this is
something we can't do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's tough because on the one hand, you
don't want to be the guy that's responsible for drafting
a player like if I, if I, if I sign off, Yeah,
he's gonna be okay, and then he comes in and
just can't stay on the field, and then you know,
they're all looking at me, and that's gonna be my
head probably on the block. But then on the other hand, Yeah,
the classic one I always think about is, uh is
the Drew Brees one. You know, the guy his first option,
first place, he almost went with Miami.
Speaker 2: They didn't pass his physical.
Speaker 6: Uh, he played for the Saints because of that, he
could he would have been a dolphin. And it's funny.
I mean, I've talked about a bunch of time, the
the butterfly effect that could have caused for a lot
of different things. But but yeah, with with with with Crosby,
I mean, I don't know anything about his medical So
just this is if you're looking at a knee and
if it's just a moniscus, you know, typically we don't
think of that as a serious injury, but is there
anything else? You know, maybe the MRI showed that he
had a big cartilage defense and then he's already got
a lot of early arthritis. And this is a guy
that you're looking at, like, gosh, man, I don't want
to put any bad juju out there for this guy,
but you know, that would be the things you would
probably think of. Or maybe something that came up on
some of the rest of physical is something they didn't
know about, maybe on a you know, maybe he had
some kind of heart issue or something. And again not
putting anything crazy, but there are things you're going to
look at, but you know, typically it does seem a
little bit odd. You know, meniscu surgeries are a very commonplace.
You know, even if he didn't have a good repair,
then you just go in and do him minoseectomy later
and it kind of shave out the damage pieces and
he's probably able to still play a pretty good career
after that, you know, just maybe a little more problems
down the road.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 7: The way I view physicals is it's not like black
and white pass or fail. It is it's an opinion
based on all sorts of different variables that you're going
through like this guy's played in the trenches in the
NFL for a long time, so his physical is certainly
is a passing physical for him, certainly going to look
different than a seventeen year old kid that's going to college. Right,
So like you're you're not grading on this, well, you
got to hit these marks, blah blah blah, Like it's
a you take all the variables, you take everything like
into account, and you given a like as a doctor,
like I would think the job is to give an
opinion because nobody's going to pass a physical two months
after surgery, right knee surgery. I know it's some meniscus,
it's more complasts, it's not like reconstructive or anything like that.
Speaker 5: But because like it was significant meniscus tear.
Speaker 7: But like they they said, like nobody's going to pass
a physical if you're thinking about a physical as like
just like, okay, can he do is he is he
perfectly healthy? Of course he's not perfectly healthy. He's two
months after surgery. So I what is the job of
a team doctor when you're doing physicals on a player?
Is it just to provide like I'm either passing or
failing him or I'm providing new information based on what
I'm seeing. And here's all the different variables to think about.
Speaker 6: It's for the most part the latter. There are gonna
be sometimes it's pass fail but.
Speaker 2: A big rubber stamp.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but the old werewhelming majority is not going to
be that. Let's just be you know, somebody had a
you know I mentioned earlier like hard somebody had a
really bad heart condition and we discovered that in a physical.
Speaker 2: That's the guy.
Speaker 6: We're gonna rubber stamp it. As you say, I mean
that that's you know, you can't cause you don't want
the guy to die. You don't want something bad to happen.
Or if you look at his knee and it's completely
unstable and he's had multiple surgeries and he's got just
the trashiest knee ever, you might do that. And again
I don't think that's the case, but right, but.
Speaker 2: This guy's needs trash you.
Speaker 5: Know they're out there.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I can't sign this guy.
Speaker 6: But but the reality is kind of like we talked
about some of the combine stuff, is you give an
assessment and and a lot of times that assessment is, hey,
this guy's got an injury. We know he's got an injury.
And and to be fair, if you're playing in the NFL,
unless you're maybe a punter, you've got injuries. You know,
That's that's the reality. Nobody's nobody's coming in clean. So
then you got to say, well, how long do I.
Speaker 2: Think he can play?
Speaker 5: How how much career.
Speaker 6: Do we think he has left? And that's when that's
when kind of the subjectivity, you know, it's it's you
use your education, you use your knowledge, you use the
tools that you have. But at the end of the
kind of what Jake was saying earlier, you and me
might disagree. We might both look at this knee and
I might say, man, I'll be surprised if he can
get three more years in the league on this, And
you may look at it and say, you know what,
with good treatment and if we get good rehab, we can.
Speaker 2: Probably get six out of them. Right, that's a big difference.
Speaker 7: But how can you tell that, like now, like two
months after a surgery. Is it just based on looking
at how much trash is in that knee?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, basically I don't know that you really
can after surgery. You know it's not gonna be normal.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 7: You're like saying, like, I think he's got X amount
of good years left in him, and they're like, Okay,
well that's worth the investment.
Speaker 6: I think the one way you maybe could and to
be fair, is even though he just had surgery and
we know he's not going to be able to play
football today, he just had surgery. But again that's where
if you look at that MRI, maybe if you look
at some of the pictures from the surgery and you
see that that cartilage is really worn down under the meniscus, yeah,
and maybe he's got some other defects there. And if
you're looking at all those things, I could see a
medical explanation for why after you see that, maybe don't
have all that information because in the being, yeah, it's
just a meniscus. But then I see his scans, I'm like, Ooh,
this need is gonna be trouble. We're gonna we're gonna
have to really work on this thing. And maybe maybe
there you make that decision again that that would be
the one scenario that I could think of.
Speaker 4: Does it make y'all feel like something maybe a little
fishy is happening whenever that you void this trade in
the next day, you signed Trey Hendrickson to a four year,
one hundred and twelve million dollar contract at the same position.
Speaker 2: I think it's just coincidence.
Speaker 6: And when you think about it, sounds coincidental.
Speaker 2: So that's that's that's the bomb. That and you get
to keep both of your first round pick.
Speaker 7: I just read that like twenty seconds before you said it.
I just I wanted to laugh. Sorry, Doc, Yeah, I
was one to like, now we know, but I was like,
oh my god, are you serious. So physical is pretty bad?
Speaker 2: Yeah, get there. It is definitely physical.
Speaker 4: So and look, Doc, I'm not asking you to speak
ill of your brethren here. But in twenty eighteen, they
had a very similar situation. There's a receiver they signed
for like three or four years, I forget what the
year number was, like thirty million dollars and he never
missed a game for Washington and then the next day
after they agreed to that deal, Michael Crabtree gets available,
he gets released, and they end up failing this physical
this player never missed a game before and using that
money to sign Michael Crabtree. So like, that's a and
again maybe it was whatever, but it's a slippery slope
to have that happen to the same organization a couple
of different times. And if that's what you're using to
try to get out of these deals, that's not good.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they care. They're just saying,
where the villain? You ever heard that before? We're the villain.
I don't care. Embrace it. Yeah, it's they're gonna embrace it, you.
Speaker 6: Know, And and and saying that even failed the physical,
you know, the the reality of it is, where does
that even come from?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 6: Anybody can fail the physical. Yeah, along the chain, so
I may not fail it, but then you know, anybody
else can say, oh right, and you're really gonna look
at that and.
Speaker 5: The physical and Seattle.
Speaker 4: I went on a free agent visit because this dummy
over here talk me into it. So I went on
a free agent visit to Seattle. Everything was going great,
thought I was gonna sign, like, hey, uh, we feel
your physical so.
Speaker 5: We still want you.
Speaker 4: But when you sign your deal, just know, even as
a vested veteran, we're gonna avoid the right for you
to get paid if you get hurt. I was like, no,
thirty years old, play fullback.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they were like, yeah, we like you, we
want you to sign, but just know, like if you
get hurt like everything, no money's coming back to you.
I was like, you don't want to be on that team? No,
well I thought I thought. I thought we're gonna have
some fun. Uniforms were cool. They were new that year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were new that year. They were they were.
Speaker 5: It was one of your selling points.
Speaker 2: I remember when you called me like we had new uniforms.
But then like after thinking about it, they weren't that cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they didn't have the coolest guy around playing quarterback
for him. Yeah, we would have fun, like playing ping
pong the locker room. Yeah I dominated that locker room.
Yeah I didn't. I ran that ran that room ping pong.
Speaker 2: I believe you.
Speaker 5: I've seen you play with four ball.
Speaker 7: I'm I'm a little check of this. This Hendricks and stuff.
This is wild.
Speaker 4: But like it's called yesterday. As soon as it's happened,
I go, they're gonna sign Tray. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 7: And they I think it's they.
Speaker 4: Got some feedback back of hey, I don't know that
I was giving up two first round picks, Like Max
didn't have his best year last year, he had like
seven sacks.
Speaker 2: He's get a.
Speaker 4: Little bit older, great players still, but you're getting up
two first rounders. Why don't you just go make a move,
just like now the market's set for edge rusher. All right,
we know what it is. Go sign tray for twenty
eight per year, keep your first round picks and move on.
Which again, they had a guy coming off surgery that
everybody knew was going to fail a physical.
Speaker 5: Everybody knew he just had surgery.
Speaker 4: They knew weren't gonna be ready until August, but they
used it because now the market was set.
Speaker 2: I die.
Speaker 7: That's like, that's the that's the great loophole in the
NFL right now, is under the medical because.
Speaker 5: Of a challenge it how do you challenge it's it's
my doctor.
Speaker 6: Parent, it's a benu. Yeah, and that's it's gonna be.
You know, that's something that comes up in a lot
of avenues. It's it's you know, ano one of the
rules in college with if you know the guy fakes
an injury. You know, that's something we've talked about, like
how do they know? I mean, if I say he's injured.
Who you to tell me is not. It's kind of
the same argument.
Speaker 5: You don't deserve the lab coat.
Speaker 2: If they'll still wear that, it's only probably not some
do what color scrubs is like? A cool color? And
what color is like? What what color is like? Nerd alert?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so be honest.
Speaker 6: So I'm a big I'm a big black and navy
or most of mine, they're pretty much all there, you know,
kind of solid, kind of kind of traditional gold.
Speaker 5: You got any of those? I do not. I do not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it wouldn't be opposed necessarily. I think, Uh, a.
Speaker 2: Good strong color. I agree, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's uh, we have some people that we
will call out if they get a little too colorful, okay. Uh,
And it depends I mean this, this may be wrong
to say. It depends on who they are. Some people
can pull it off and we got ten year Yeah, yeah,
some do. And then depends there's some things, but uh,
I want to call you about it specifically.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna bet who you are.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bet you that doctor Banks was never one
of the ones you had to worry about. Uh.
Speaker 5: There which every one with a camo one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might he might not.
Speaker 6: Honestly, he just grabbing whichever stock in the o R
whatever they got on the shelf is when he's grabbing her,
you know, and then and it pulls it off well
getting the custom fits oh no, no, off the shelf
in the.
Speaker 7: So the colorful like the more color. It's kind of
like what we talked about the other day, laundr with
bangs with crazy hats, like they either wear you or
you wear it, right, So like you gott to own it,
own it if you're gonna do it, if you're gonna
go gold scrubs.
Speaker 2: They have some bice apps coming out.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: Doctor heading in Nashville. Yeah, here pretty soon. Hopefully the
basketball team is still playing when you get there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 6: So you know, we got the early game today, so
if not doing anything midday to day, go watch that game.
But I won't get there till after that one. So
hopefully I get to catch the one tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But you're gonna be there for a couple of days, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: We're going for a conference. They do a medical conference.
Speaker 5: Stick around for baseball.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll be there Friday night. I'm gonna go to
the Friday night game.
Speaker 5: So you at least get to see the Tigers in action.
Speaker 2: I will see these at least one way or another.
Speaker 6: I'm seeing a Tiger's game, so yeah, fly out Saturday,
so I'll catch the Friday one and maybe maybe a
basketball game tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 7: You got so many sports happening right now, LSU, Like,
what is the what's the big id during football season?
You deal, there's concussions that Like, there's probably a lot
less of that now because I don't think soccer season's
happening right now, and I know women's soccer there's a
lot of concussions in that as well. So what's like
some of the main injuries you see with a lot
of the Olympics sports.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we got a lot going on. And you
know sport by sports is gonna be different. You know,
baseball you wear about the arm injuries. You know, you
get some of the sliding injuries, you get people get
stepped on and things like that.
Speaker 5: Well not with the oven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever seen that?
Speaker 7: It was was was finger injuries a big enough problem
to where we had to create these you know, we
never came melt.
Speaker 6: It was you know, maybe that's sometimes we're the old
school you know it's it's lighting. Yeah, I mean, I
got a couple of crooked ones from actually is a battle. Well,
but yeah, and then you know in different sports, no, gymnastics,
we see a lot of ankles, we see lot of shoulders,
and gymnastics shoulders, they're they're so beat up, especially at
this point of the season. You know we're getting close to postseason.
You got one more home game this or home meet
this Friday, y'all.
Speaker 5: I did not. I didn't. Yeah, you don't want to
go there if you don't have to.
Speaker 6: I hate Gainesville. Yeah, I would drive around at every
opportunity I could.
Speaker 5: Yeah, your jeans have legs, so you wouldn't fit in anyway.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 7: If you had to formulate an opinion on toughness, our
gymnasts the toughest.
Speaker 2: I think they I think they are.
Speaker 6: I think Look, I tell people, there are toughest athletes,
and in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Probably our best athletes.
Speaker 6: If you watch what they do, and even there, it's
the beam I I don't I couldn't walk across it,
and I'm reasonably athletic, and they're doing all the things
that I couldn't even fathom doing. Yeah, yeah, exactly, I mean,
I I know, even that my peak, peak of my abilities,
I would have not known who.
Speaker 2: They do, not even anything close.
Speaker 5: I think my foot's wider than the beat.
Speaker 7: Another thing you can do, like a fair where you
get strapped into like a bungee and you're on a trampoline,
you can do. Yeah, I couldn't do the things they
do on a three inch beam that's right on that thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like not even close. Yeah, it's outrageous.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I know they're they're fantastic and they're they're
doing great.
Speaker 4: All right, Doctor Steven Nathlard, it's good enough to join
us every single Wednesday.
Speaker 5: Hear save travels. We appreciate. We'll catch up next week.
Sounds great.
Speaker 4: All right, we'll step away more OTB reminder, we've got
coach Kim Munkey joining us in about fifteen minutes from
now to break down what they have coming up in
the NCAA tournaments. Certainly going to be a host here
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Speaker 5: Way before?
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Speaker 7: I'm out there. I'm so tired of arguing with people
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Speaker 4: I've been married the longest of anybody in this room,
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Speaker 5: Been in the game longer.
Speaker 2: That is making sense.
Speaker 5: I'm the oldest here too, seniority more weddings.
Speaker 7: After forty, that's not a brag. Should we Should we
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Speaker 2: Are you're it's me off the days for from Bilbo? Yeah,
because you're because you're jumping what Oh yeah, you're really
dying on this hill?
Speaker 10: He is, and then brought it up and then he's
going to tell you that he's not dying on it.
Speaker 2: Y'all brought it up. He's like, y'all, Jake brought it up.
Speaker 5: Hold up, now we're a Foxhold.
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Speaker 5: This Raiders Ravens.
Speaker 4: Saying is fascinating to me now and again, Like, I
know it's not to be the top story in Mattanurice, Louisiana,
but I think anybody can appreciate what's going on and
how the Ravens are trying to get it done. And
people are being like, oh up, actually we see you,
like you're you're carrying the TV out of the home
that you just ripped it off the wall, and you're like,
I don't have anything in my hands, Like we see you.
Speaker 1: Though, we caught you in four K yeah.
Speaker 10: And like who's gonna who's gonna want to do deals
with these guys in the future.
Speaker 2: Like I don't. I don't understanding.
Speaker 10: Like they think they're winning this, they're not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was listening to the guys after us.
Speaker 2: They're not going to get.
Speaker 4: Tom Tellusco, who's been a gym before. He's like, I can't.
I'm not blaming it. I'm not like accusing. He's like,
but like, if something is going on and this happens,
this will alter the ease of their deals, was kind
of the way he put it. Not that they wouldn't
get him done, he said, but it would change the
strategy for a lot of teams dealing with the Ravens.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, agents, agents too.
Speaker 7: Takes a long time to build trust. Agents was brought
up to tear it down exactly.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 7: I don't know if anyone's ever wondered this, but it's like,
how is like Adam Schefter and all these different folks
that are breaking is how they're getting this information?
Speaker 2: Well, there is.
Speaker 7: It's certainly a network of agents that feed Adam Schefter
this information because it's a give and take relationship. Schefter
feeds agents information, for sure, agents feeds Schefter information and
it's uh, you scratch my back, ey scratch yours, and
everybody's okay with it because it enhances the visibility of
the NFL. But in situations like this, it's certainly puts
people in a bad spot. Now they put themselves in
the ravens, put themselves in a bad spot. That's not
the way to do business in any line of business.
But let's not say it's unheard of in the world
of business. People make deals and back out of deals
all the time.
Speaker 2: In business. It's just not.
Speaker 7: A sexy thing that people care about, like such as
Sportant Group.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking about only thirty two teams in
this multi.
Speaker 5: Brillion dollar business. No other businesses like.
Speaker 2: This, right, you look like real estate. People get contracts
on real estate and back out like it happens.
Speaker 4: I get to the eleventh hour, house is sold, I've
already had a moving company. I've already got my next purchase.
Like we're going to back out? Yeah, I guess this
other house. I feel like getting to the paperwork, is
this better house available?
Speaker 7: It's got a better you know, sweeter pool, got a
wrestle pool, got a wrestle pool at this house.
Speaker 2: We're going to back out of this other way, didn't The.
Speaker 10: Only thing that would make this better if the Raiders
can't sign all their free agents because Max is still
on the book at the Ravens resigned Tyler Linderbaum.
Speaker 2: It see, the only thing.
Speaker 5: That'll make Ravens don't have their room to do it.
But it would be funny.
Speaker 7: I mean, ain't signing a center for twenty seven million
dollars nine million above the second highest paid center was
a dumb move.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Ravens have about like eighteen some change I
think in Soury CAP's space, but it would be funny. Uh,
the Raiders have thirty seven point nine million, so that
number goes down because now Max Crosby back on the books. Uh.
The Washington Commanders still had the most money to spend
seventy nine point eight million under the cap. They did
just make a move to bring in former LSU tiger
calevon Chasong one year, twelve million dollar deal. Calebon had
seven and a half sacks last year. Interesting career for
Klevon first round pick certainly didn't work out there for
him in Jacksonville. He goes to the Raiders and kind
of a last ditch effort type deal, has a solid
enough season where he signs with the Patriots and then
at the end of the year he was kind of dominant,
like there was there was times where it was real
tough to block him, and so he parlays that into
a bettle on yourself deal. One year's twelve million dollars.
So shout out to Calebon, we go, we get that money.
Hopefully nobody backs out.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 7: It's wild, man, we're kind of poking fun at it.
But this is especially with this big blockbus server trade,
this is unheard of. This is going to send shockwaves
throughout the NFL. There's going to be rules that are
going to need to be changed. There's gonna be a Max.
Speaker 2: Crosby rule or the Ravens rule or whatever they want
to call it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's gonna I don't know what you do because
you can't stop that. You can't stop people leaking information,
right uh, because that's gonna happen. That's why I kind
of started the segment. I signed like that. This is
how the leaks happen. It's not the Ravens. The team
owners in the NFL allow these leaks to happen because
it's good for the publicity of the sport and the
shield and the like, the promotion of the NFL. It's
great for that. That's why it's everyone's okay and good
with it. And it's always usually correct information. I won't
say always usually correct information because it's the actual agent.
Speaker 2: Let's talking to Adam Schefter. Yeah, so it's usually fairy.
Speaker 4: Actually, I'll tell all these I mean, because the team
can't announce these deals, like the team's not gonna like
the team will put out a meme if they signed
somebody that tries to make you guess, was it the
Bears that sign Kobe Bryant from the Seahawks and they
put out a Kobe Bryant Lakers meme?
Speaker 2: Right, they can't give you the dollars and cents, but
they can, you know, take it with their version of
a Tiger emogi.
Speaker 4: Right, So exactly, so Schefty gets these from the agent
and everybody knows and that's how they leak and that's
how they get out there.
Speaker 5: Again, nothing is officially official until three o'clock.
Speaker 4: Central time for Eastern today, like that is when you
can officially so like there's gonna be players that are
in these cities right now waiting and then once they
get to go, they get to the hospital, get the
physical and becomes official, or if you're the Ravens, unofficial
because it doesn't happen.
Speaker 7: How are you feeling so Like, if you're a player
that has agreed to terms with the Raiders right now
because of they thought they had the cap space for
the Max Carlsby and I know you're saying they still
have a lot of cap space, but how are you
feeling right now because you agreed to this and now
there's other teams that have filled the need. Like if
you were negotiating between the Raiders, the Seahawks and the
forty nine ers and you just you chose the and
I'm just giving these other example, right and you chose
the Raiders, and now these other teams have filled that need.
Now there's no spot for you. Now you're negotiating. Now
you're looking at like life changing implications because of this,
because maybe now you have to you take five, six, seven,
eight million dollars less than you did before. Maybe if
you're a big guy, maybe you're taking the center. Maybe
he's got to take nine million less a year. I mean,
that's obviously a huge deal, but the implications could be
absolutely massive and what a wild story and absolutely unheard
of and uh, shame on the Ravens. But they're not
going to apologize for it and they probably shouldn't. Just
like we said in business, people back out of deals
all the time. It just so happens that people are
a little bit more invested in know the the inner
workings of the NFL because it's so public.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: And also like they signed some guys at that position
and Max Crosby's going to be playing that probably thought
that their role in the team was going to be different.
I'm talking about like they didn't sign the agreed pretty
pay signed for over forty million dollars plus, so like
he was he thought he was going to be the dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the guy.
Speaker 5: So we shall see.
Speaker 4: And again I do agree there's gonna be ramifications from
the NFL if something does come out, or even if
it does, what but they'll try.
Speaker 5: To see it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like maybe no trades can be announced till after
physical how about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll never happen because of people texting Jake Glazer
and thefty and.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's it's gonna be a it's gonna be a
hard thing to close. The leaking of information not gonna happen.
I'm not gonna not gonna work here anymore.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back in oh TV. Here live from the Raising
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Also on Wednesdays, we had a pleasure of catching up
with one of our absolute favorites, coach Kim Mulki. They
had basketball coach at the LSU Tigers getting ready for
the postseason.
Speaker 2: Coach, we always appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Hope you're doing well this Wednesday morning heading to practice.
Speaker 4: Big guys.
Speaker 8: I have a nine am practice game, two or three
days off after the SEC Tournament, and we just got
to keep moving until Sunday when they announce the pairings
on television that evening.
Speaker 5: That's rating. Coach.
Speaker 4: I always love your approach to the SEC Tournament. You
go in with a plan and you try to make
sure that you'll execute the plan, and there's different things
that you want to work on. And look, certainly had
some great performances there in Greenville. I mean the game
against Oklahoma. That's a good basketball team and to be
able to win like that. Another hard fall game against
South Carolina as well. Before we move forward to what
you have coming up, how did you fill your team
played in the SEC Tournament.
Speaker 8: I thought we left it out on the floor. We're
just a little bit there's you know, there's just a
small margin of era when you play a South Carolina
or a Yukon or any of those, even Texas, and man,
we fought hard in both South Carolina games this year
and did the same in a hostile environment there with
eighteen thousand plus people. With that many, all I know
is a pack full of game cock fans. But we
just you know, right there, and you know, as I
told the media afterwards, guys, I'm tired of hearing LSU's
eighteen And oh LSU might be, but Kim Malkey and
her teams are not. We've only played them seven times
since I've been here. Give me a break. We will
get there. It took me twenty something tries to start
winning in the Big twelve. I was there twenty one years.
You have to build a foundation, and I just know
what we've done in five years at LSU is pretty remarkable,
and I just I see the progress and we just
have to learn. You just keep teaching and you keep
showing them. Look at the lead. If you had executed
this right here, leaving a time out, you didn't go
do what you were supposed to do defensively. It's those
types of detail you got to do to be a
team that's going to beat somebody you're not supposed to beat.
And we've beaten people and we're not supposed to beat
But man, you're just so close to doing it on
a consistent basis.
Speaker 7: Well, coach, of course, what you have done in your
time here at LSU has been incredible, and you got
another chance out of here coming up, of course, with
the NCAA Tournament. But I want to talk about is
there anything that your team can learn? Are there any
coaching points that you can learn from the SEC tournament
just from the thought and the stressors that from playing
elimination tournament type style? Is there anything you can take
from that SEC tournament and coach and bring.
Speaker 2: It to the.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 8: The first thing I'm gonna do this morning is gather
them in the locker room. I haven't seen them since
the loss, and we're not gonna do film on any
of the games in the SEC tournament. What we're gonna
do is talk about what's ahead. Some of them don't
even know because I have, you know, a lot in
that locker room that have never participated in the NCAA tournament.
And I'll explain to them, Guys, this particular team is well,
they are. They're gonna have the highest seed in the
NCAA Tournament of any of the teams I've had at LSU.
That's a remarkable feat. We're probably gonna be the first
number two or the second number two team, and they
need to know that is progress, that is continuing to
build this foundation. Then I'm gonna have to explain to
several of them how you're gonna get to play the
first and second round game here. Obviously you got to
win the first to get to the second round, but
that's big. Again, We've done that every year since I've
been here. And then you win those two games, you're
in the sweet sixteen, and coaches coach a lifetime and
never get to a sweet sixteen or lead eight or
final four, win a Natty, and just explain to them
what we're getting ready to do. And then I will
talk to them about the twenty twenty three team that
won the national championship and the adversity we went through.
Our five losses are so tight and close, and we
haven't had just a horrible meltdown or beat down in
any loss, and that twenty twenty three team did. We
got killed at South Carolina, actually embarrassed. We lost a
seventeen point lead in the SEC Tournament to Tennessee. I
suspended a couple of players during that season and we
win the Natty, adversity happens. We haven't really had adversity.
We haven't had to do anything to discipline kids this year,
we haven't had bad losses. So I'll explain all of
this and tell them it's who plays on a role
here these next six games, and why not us? We
finished the season ranked fifth in the country, fifth in
the country behind the four top seeds Yukon, UCLA, Texas,
and South Carolina. You're right there, and so I'll talk
to them about that and tell them the most talented
teams and the ones that are expected to win it
all don't always do that, and we're living proof of that.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 4: Catching up with LSAD basketball coach Kim Mulki here on
OTB coach. As you were talking, I started thinking about
some of the players that you have that have been
through the situation of playing in the postseason. But then
I started thinking about some of the freshmen like Grace
Knox and then Bella Hindes is somebody that came in
against O Oklahoma and hit three three pointers and she
might have a moment in the NCUBA Tournament. So when
those freshmen are going into their first Okay, hey, this
is going to be different, right. You've played in the
SEC tournament, You've played in big games, but this is
the NCUBA tournament. Do you maybe have a conversation with
those freshmen players?
Speaker 5: Do you let the team.
Speaker 4: Maybe have that conversation, maybe let them watch the older players.
How do you handle freshmen that are going to be
exposed to the NCAA tournament for the first time and
be counted on to have big roles.
Speaker 8: Well, first of all, you talk to them as a group,
as a team, and I'll do that every day in preparation.
And then my approach is the NCAA tournament is a
cake walk compared to the SEC and compared to the
SEC tournament. I mean, guys, if you can do good
at the SEC tournament, which you did, and you can
do good throughout the season event, particularly this year, y'all
going to breathe a sigh of relief when you play
in the NCAA tournament, honestly, and just let them no,
it's it's not different other than the big difference and
only differences. If you don't win, you go into the house.
Speaker 2: Coach.
Speaker 7: Assistant coach Gary Ritas is going to take the head
coaching job for Rutgers. How does that impact what y'all
are doing? How's that? How's that going to work on
the towards the end of the season and headed into
the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 8: Well, the timing of as you we're guilty of it
at LSU. Didn't we go get a coach at Old
Miss in the middle of the playoffs? So you know,
timing is everything in life. I'm not used to all
of this stuff happening during the season. I've watched it
play itself out in all sports. And until you have
some parameters on when you can hire coaches, this is
going to continue to happen because each institution is looking
out for themselves if their season's over. Why should I
have to wait until LSU season is over to hire somebody.
Speaker 9: So that is.
Speaker 8: Different for me. I've never had this happen before where
coach was taken during the tournament. However, I cannot be
any happier for Gary redis that young man was at
Delta State, that young man went to Vandy, that whole
staff got fired at Vandy. He goes to SMU for
one year and didn't have a great year. I have
an opening because my recruiter at that time, got a
head job at Central Florida and then Gary I brought
him on board, and man, he was just like he's
like an energizer bunny when it comes to recruiting. And
that's what he did for our program. He was a
recruiter on the court, He worked with guards and doing drills.
They all have specific things that they do. And obviously
doctor Tate and Kelly Zen having been at LSU no
my program. And I just know that he has an
opportunity to go at a young age and do good things.
And he will work his rear end off and try
to improve that program. And so as I told him,
you can't be married to two wives, I said, get
out of here, go to work, get your pro get
your staff in place, get your kids you know that
are there to stay. He hasn't even visited Rutgers. He
took the job, you know, over the phone or whatever.
And I know his love for our program and our team.
He'd want to be on the bench with us too,
But as a mentor, I can't. I can't be selfish
and ask him to stay with our team when this
could be a long three or four week process with
the playoffs. You need to be working. And so he's gonna,
you know, get after it at Rutgers. And he could
take one of our coaches, like coach Daphane, his his wife,
his best friends with coach Daphne. They played at Georgia
Tech Toga other and we're roommates. And if he does,
I'll be happy for her as well. I told somebody
the other day, I said, my last two recruiters God
had jobs. I said, I feel like Nick Saban, I
feel like I'm preparing you know, all his coordinators, from
Lane Kiffon to the guy at Texas. I mean, how
many you know Brian Lee's the NFL and heat end up.
But that's okay, that's respect, and that is preparing the
future of our game. And it just makes me have
to get on the phone a little more right now
and try to hire somebody to replace him. And if
I have to hire two, I will. I hope I don't,
but if I have to, I will, And we'll keep
keeping on.
Speaker 4: Coach Kim Bulkey, you gonna have to join us every
single Wednesday morning here during the basketball season.
Speaker 5: Coach.
Speaker 4: We always appreciate the time, look forward to seeing how
it plays out on selections Sunday coming up, and we
know the PMAC is going to be rocking for those
games coming up, So we appreciate look forward to watching
your team plate in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 8: Hey guys, thank you, thank you again.
Speaker 5: Coach Kim Maulke. Every single Wednesday morning here on OTB.
Speaker 4: Practice in twelve minutes, yep, you could tell like she
was like running into the building too, like ready she.
Speaker 2: Was in the tunnel talking to him.
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since you had a couple of days off, I hope
you had your mind high today. It's gonna be a practice.
It's gonna be a days lines. Yes, you know, just
like hey, I had some days off. Yeah, I'll get
your mind right. Yeah to say that from experience, yeah, exactly,
as it's bull practice, it is bowl practice.
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